The Greatest Generation - Zeal for Ziyal (DS9 S5E15)

Episode Date: November 25, 2019

When Dukat makes a Faustian bargain with the Dominion, it comes out of left field for the entire crew of Deep Space Nine. But when the station’s imprisoned crewmen place all their hopes of escape on Garak’s shoulders, he’ll have to overcome his deepest fears to get the job done. Is Sisko trying to do a big-budget reboot of Wolf 359? Is Prison Asteroid the Jem’Hadar equivalent of Risa? Does Worf ever think it’s not a good day to die? It’s the episode where the banging continues. 🖖GET TICKETS TO GREATEST GEN KHAN II: STAR TREK III🖖 Follow The Game of Buttholes: The Will of the Prophets! Support the production of The Greatest Generation.

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Who are a little bit embarrassed about having a Star Trek podcast I'm Adam Pranica I'm Ben Harrison How are you doing Adam? At the time I put it in that tone of voice. How are you doing, Adam? Great, Ben. What is it about the fact that we're recording this?

That makes me act weird. I don't know. It's unusual. Certainly. Yeah. Because I know in real life, you are never way, way. Yeah. Because I know in real life you were way more uncomfortable. It has been a really long time, Adam. A dog's age, I might say, since we whipped out the cards that we used to play card war.

Oh yeah, that's a beloved kind of marion open for the greatest generation. Yeah, I would like to do a little card war with you. Let's do it. Where more? There's been no formal declaration of war. And they took your brand new sumlock. That nonsense is centuries behind us.

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the integrity and cunning stats or whatever but in this case I will be deferring to the autograph all right well Here's what I'm gonna do. I have. I have two paths I could go down here. I have a packet of collectible card game cards still sealed in package with the Jim Shimoda card printed and adhesive to the front. I think somebody brought a bunch of these too. Maybe a sketch fest show we did a couple of years ago. Oh wow!

And that turned up when I rifled through my stuff. And then I also have still a cellophane in a box. Box 4,917 of 6,000, a 24 pack box of complete Star Trek, the next generation trading cards. Series 2, 1991 through 94. So I have got our new challenge coin here, the Kevin Uxbridge fan of special conscience challenge coin and I guess I'm gonna go heads for TNG tails for collectible card game and I'm gonna flip this coin and just to decide which of these two packets I'm gonna take to the battlefield against the cards

that you have brought. Give it a flip. All right, it's on the back of my palm. And it's Tails. Collectible card game it is. The cellophane on this 24 pack box will remain unpearsed. Hey, that's great. That's gonna, the collectors in the audience are really gonna appreciate that. One thing that I've been made to remember after opening my first pack of these of these DS9 cards is that the cards

Are stuck together. Oh, yeah listen to this Mmm sounds like a magazine you're finding the woods Given him a good crack is the only way to Given him a good crack is the only way to uh to separate them from each other. Wow. Which means the autograph that I'm sure to find is going to be valueless. Alright, what do you say we flip over our first paracards here? Let's do it. Three, two, one.

Oh man, I have a uh, engineer, Lieutenant Tarek, and this is, uh, this is a character familiar to us, it's Lieutenant Tarek, the Vulcan engineer from the, uh, below deck's episode. Hey, I like that guy. Integrity of 7, a cunning of 7, and a strength of 8. Look at the big muscles on TARIC. Ben, I have what has been branded to be a greatest moment in DS9. That greatest moment is the happy couple and it is a picture of Wurf and Jadzi attacks. Jadzi attacks sort of sitting on Wurf's lap, his arms around her in an embrace.

Unclear whether or not we can agree with this at this moment in time. We're about in the middle point of season five of Deep Space Nine. Not sure that I was. I bet she really gets a lot out of sitting on his face. You know, a lot of ribbing to rub against, you know? Very stimulating.

You think Worf gets bored giving Oral to Dax because he's always like looking for two clits that aren't there? This is half as fun. Not needing to search for a second clit is without honor. I mean, I feel like he probably has the same problem down there that he does just opening any door. Yeah. I gotta say, I think the degree to which I disagree with the happy couple is a reason

why your card is going to win this round. Wow. What do you think? Well, it's charitable. I like Dax and Worf together. your card is going to win this round. Wow. What do you think? What, it's charitable. I like DAX and Wurf together. I think the unconventionalness of their relationship is part of what makes it fun.

I'm famous for my grudge holding, Ben, and I just can't get over what Wurf did on the pleasure planet. Yeah, that's the scariest thing about you by a country mile. You always say that to me, one of your closest friends Yeah, that's the scariest thing about you by a country mile You always say that to me one of your closest friends and business partners that you're famous for your grudge holding Yeah, it's the main thing about me

So one to nothing Benjamin our Harrison. I feel less less comfortable about winning All Alright, let's flip over another card. 3, 2, 1. Oh, Ben, in keeping with our romance theme of the cards on my side, I have found one of the greatest moments of Deep Space 9 to be a kiss. And that, of course, being the kiss between DAX and Nellani Khan. The lady kiss of a couple of seasons ago. Oh, wow! Yeah! Right? It was the Forbidden Love episode. Right.

And it was forbidden because it was like a former lover of DAX. Yeah and you're supposed to, you know, the one thing about the triller that they are also famous grudge holders. Right. You're not supposed to have relationships with people. You have one, you have one you're wearing a different body. So yeah, forbidden stuff. Very forbidden. What do you got? I have an interrupt card and it's emergency transporter arm bands. It's a close-up of a gadget on an arm band on somebody's command series uniform.

Devices which allow quick remote activation of a transporter went in danger. I think you've really got me beat bad on this one. I think so too. I don't think anyone's gonna remember that the way they do. Emergency transporter arm pads are some cowardly shit. Yeah. Yeah. Alright, so one... We're not agreement on that. Shall we hit another card? Yeah, let's do it.

Three, two, one. Okay, I have particle fountain. Experimental orbital station built by Dr. Farrellon reminding a planet from space. Hermann to be effective for atmospheric depletion. So, particle fountain was the nickname everybody called me in college, but it's also the card that I flipped over.

Particle fountain. Stance no chance against the wormhole. Oh. Of course, it being one of the greatest moments in Deep Space Nine, the picture on this card is great. Oh, of course it being one of the greatest moments in deep space. Nine, the picture on this card is great. It's a Captain Cisco who at the time I believe was a commander. He is experiencing the the beachiness of being in the wormhole.

Like when he goes to visit the founders, there's that vision of him on the beach. Yeah. With his wife. Do you realize how incredible this is? Yeah. Ha ha. And so if my particle fountain could hold a candle to a wormhole any day of the week, that would be great for me. Yeah. It really feels like

Cisco's getting something from this. His eyes are closed. He's in a state of great calm. Hmm looks like a great moment Maybe the greatest moment according to this card God damn it. Okay, two to one. You want to do best of five? Yeah, let's do uh... this could be the last one then. Yes, so yeah, you could... you could... you could finish me off right here right now. I could finish off your particle fountain for you. That's called a happy ending. Three, two, one. Phew! I have a

phasic organism. And is that when you masturbate without touching yourself? Like sting? Yeah, like sting. It says, a male non-corporeal life form that lives inside a female host which he enchants, as in the case of Beverly Crusher's late grandmother.

This is the candle being that bangs... Oh, it's... Dr. Beverly. It's candle fuckers. Yeah. Wow. Quite a bit more of a legendary,

century-spanning, intergalactic stickman than I've ever had before. About that. I have got something sort of related to that. It's, uh, it's... Beijor, stay out. It's the quote next to greatest moments. And it has to do with the episode from a couple episodes ago of the greatest generation.

It's about a, it's rapture. It's the one where, where Captain Cisco experienced the visions called Patem Far. Yeah. It's the one where he, he finds the obelisk, right? Right. And then he busts into that chamber and breaks up the acceptance of Beijor into the Federation. Right. Yeah.

So pretty recent, this one. Wild. Yeah. I don't know. A greatest moment, though. I don't know about that. I mean, we're kind of picking what many people consider to be the worst episode of TNG versus an OK episode of Tuesday's Night.

Alright, I mean, I, when put that way, I think we know what the math indicates. And that is, uh, that's a win for me. I'm saying it. There's our, there's our third out of five. No, I win again. I dispute. I want a recount I said intergalactic Centuries spanning stickman Adam yours is just an inert obelisk all right. All right fine the recount stands We are we are now going to Supreme Court is not going to intervene and name a winner. Yeah. We're gonna have to take this into a runoff, Adam.

A final card. Let's do it. Three, two, one. Boy, I, uh, kind of getting the bends because the last card you had one of the worst episodes of Star Trek the Next Generation and what I am holding is a card for what I have heard is the best episode of Deep Space Nine. Whoa! The card is for Cisco the sci-fi writer and of course it is related to the episode that we haven't gotten to yet called far beyond the stars. Wow.

And even someone like me who hasn't seen all of Deep Space Nine knows of this episode, it's the favorite of many people. You've heard it's legend. Yeah, so that's what I've got. What are you packing? I am packing Mendon. The chaotic bro, the engine... From the Benzite people, some representative of science specialists within Starfleet,

served aboard the USS Entrepreneur in 2365. Looks like Mordok. You did it Ben. You came from behind and you beat me. I can't believe it. Kind of a dubious win. I don't feel Great about this win, but I'll take it. It's obvious chaotic bro One of the beloved characters on the greatest generation. Yeah Obviously, whoo that's tough. I don't feel good, but uh, but you won fair and square well Adam. I think uh

I think we gotta uh start to gotta start to turn our attention toward matters more serious. A different kind of war, a real war, even. Yeah, and by that we mean the coming dominion war, which is really starting to pop off. It's a season five episode 15 by Inferno's Light, part two. Last time on Star Trek gets me every time. Yeah. And now the conclusion, like it's a total pump up. I love it. Yeah.

I never skip that. I'm always down for it, yeah. Show me the recap. Yeah, yeah. The recap is something that Star Trek Discovery does every episode, right? Do you get recap fatigue, you think, if it's an every episode?

I don't think so. Um, you know, I don't. And I think that there are enough concurrent story threads in Star Trek Discovery that I appreciate the fact that they're reminding me of some key points. Because they don't always advance every storyline in every episode. So if a couple of episodes have gone by,

I might need that to re-familiarize myself. It also feels like cheap heat too. Like the stuff's already been shot. You got 30 seconds for a little bit of a sizzle reel. It's like it could be done, especially like I think every episode has a commercial for it too. Right. When it was on television. Right.

Right. So why not? Take advantage. Take advantage. More sizzle. More sizzle for that steak. So yeah, the, we've got the flotilla of ticks hovering outside the station. Kira is in command of the little D with the DAX on tactical and they're spoiling for a fight.

There's Galdu Cots, Bird of Prey and a couple of runabouts and the little D and about 75 ships that have just come through the wormhole from the G quad. I don't like their chances. Yeah. I kind of wondered in planning this, how much psychological ups the founders factored into it because these ticks come through and stop with kind of all of their guns pointed at these face-9's head, give it a beat, and then turn and just head directly towards Cardassia.

Like, they didn't need to stop, but they did. They really have a flair for the dramatic, don't they? Yeah. Yeah, very dramatic. I can appreciate that. And yeah, the Ducat Warbird is in hot pursuit. And everybody's like, Ducat, you're nuts. Like we had pretty long odds to begin with.

You can't take these guys on all by yourself. And he radio's back. No, I'm not in fact trying to fight them. I'm heading there with them. Returning to Cardassia as a homecoming hero, he's been engaged in some kind of gonzo diplomacy and he has forged an alliance that causes Cardassia to enter the dominion as one of its client states. You can't be serious. And Ducat gets to be like the Fidel Castro of Cardassia.

It's a great deal for him, but it's an absurd scene, right? Like, Gulducat returning to his home world in a Klingonship escorting 80 ticks. Right. I would love to have seen a cut to Cardassia at the moment of his arrival. Yeah, that would have been real. That must have felt so good for him to FaceTime,

his home world and be like, Ony, I'm home. That's our smash to credit sequence. And when we come back, we're catching up with General Marthok and Wharf and Prime Bishir and Garrick. The real prisoners of Camp 371. Yeah. I guess Marthok is the one that keeps having to go fight gem hadars and The idea is hatched that they're going to go into this hatch in the wall and there was You know a life support system in there that you know wasn't being used and that's what an obrantine was using to send out his

Alive alive alive Distress signal and an imprentices. I'm a child as older man was using to send out his alive, alive, alive, distress signal. And in parentheses, I'm a child with older man. Alive in parentheses, I have no son. Alive in parentheses, I have no son. Right. And so the thought is, if they, if they can modify this thing, they might be able to, you know, remote control,

the runabout to beam everyone up, and they'll be able to head out and return to deep space nine with all the prisoners. Ben, were you like, what? The runabout is still out there? How is that possible? Yeah, I wondered about that. Like shouldn't the Dominion be dismantling it and examining its technology or something?

It should be in a cargo bay being torn, sheet metal from sheet metal. Or just in like a big warehouse, like maybe next to the arc of the covenant. And belongs and have you see him. I don't get that. Well, there is a lot of hubris in the way the gym had our operate. So yeah, it's fair.

I think it's possible to overlook this platole. I guess I'll have to. Yeah, you are going to have to because the episode certainly does. They're about to get started on this project when everybody gets called out to kind of the main hall of this prison. And a Vorta is there and he announces, hey, great news for all the Kardashians,

diplomatic relations between our people have normalized. You are no longer prisoners of war and you're gonna be head and home Good for you and Garrick like clicks his heels together and starts walking off and he says everybody except for that guy Garrick got singled out by Goldu Cut and is told so as much last time I checked I was a cut us cut and is told so as much. The last time I checked I was a cadassian was not a very popular one I'm praying. The reason you don't get to go home is because Golducat arranged this and he said don't send Garicome. It's why everyone refers to me as the Golducat of the greatest generation. Golducat holds grudges. Yeah you keep saying it. Imagine being in this prison camp, and this is the first you're hearing it.

It's so crazy that I almost expected them not to believe it in this moment. Like that this would be some sort of bit that the Vorta were pulling. Yeah, they are underhanded trickster people. We know that about them. Yeah, it's true. But maybe the, maybe the Kardashians don't as much? Yeah, hard to say. Like the Kardashians have only ever gone into,

like, go to war with them and then bid in prison. The idea is so absurd on the surface that I felt like most of the way through the episode, I was still thinking in the back of my mind, like, what are they, what are they trying to do here? Like, this can't be really the thing. This can't be the plan. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop.

If shoe fits, where it? We cut to a cardassia, a wide shot of cardassia, and we see that Golducatus tweeting. We've seen this establishing shot before, I think, where like Cardassia has the big brother monitors everywhere. And Ducat is addressing all of Cardassia with a sort of Andy Rooney desk piece. A lot of people are worried about us joining a murderous plutocracy, but I'm not. I think this is gonna go great for Cardassia, and I'll tell you why.

Kind of that type of thing. And remember when you could go to any restaurant and get a slice of pie, whatever happened to that. Ha, ha, ha, ha. I'm gonna bring that back to Cardassia. Make a desiastrome again. And this is a great scene in the program because it totally undercuts whatever doubts you may have about the plan being real or not. Like the moment I start having doubts about whether or not it's actually gonna go down, we cut

directly to Cardassia and we see that the plan has been implemented. Right. There it is. It is. It is, in fact, the head of state. They're watching it. They're watching it on CNN from Devespace 9. Yeah.

And yeah, he's like making really extravagant promises. Like, I'm going to eliminate ISIS, you know, all of the middle class manufacturing jobs are coming back to Cardassia, all of that stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's fun to cut to the wardrobe to get the react shots, but it isn't the only problem that Cisco is dealing with. There's also the saboteur on the station because they're still kind of rubbing their bruises about the whole failed graviton emitter situation.

Their attempts to close the wormhole in the episode before has instead strengthened the wormhole in a sort of weaponized speculum, like the wormhole will remain open forever, and there's nothing they can do to close it. Yeah, and over the course of this episode they keep opening up panels and finding Cebo all over the station. So, you know, they know that the problem is not solved and Bashir Gold Edition speaks up and suggests that they get the blood screenings started up again. It just goes like, yeah, we should do that plus phaser sweeps. And I wondered like they never show them phaser sweeping people.

Yeah, they should. That doesn't sound pleasant. Look, guys, I know you're busy doing this lab work, but we need to shoot you. Yeah, just on stone, just hold still. You'll come to you in a moment. Yeah. God, that's gonna suck. Yeah.

Not fun. Go to God to work. Go to God to work. So, back in the prison, they are forced to give Garrick the job of rewiring the circuitry. And what they discover is that Garrick has sort of a Charles Branson in Great Escape problem, which is that he's terrified of enclosed spaces.

That's right. Yeah, very familiar storyline here. I don't like it in here. It's sweaty and closed off. Ned little late behind these panels. Every day in the gym, I'd come back. You pushed the cat back in place, and I'm stuck. There's that one weird brain out there. I don't like the way he looks at me.

What's the brain doing out there? Does he say anything makes me nervous? He looks like a bullshit version of the bounty hunter lea dressed up as in Star Wars. Boy, is that the truth? You just buy the costume at a Halloween store? It's really crazy, right? Yeah, it's spot on. It's like the company that

makes costumes but doesn't get the licenses. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like given a generic character name like refrigerated alien. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to know. You're going to know. People are getting impatient with the speed of Gick's work and after this moment everyone pivots into feeling a great amount of empathy for Garrick because later on it's revealed that he has a very hard time with these closed spaces but it doesn't happen until later on. It's at this point that the guards come in and drag Wharf into the ring where he will begin a series of fights out in the fight, Dojo. They're gonna give Marthok a break and Worf is taking over. Worf is actually been looking

forward to this, which I can understand, you know, like having something to do while you're in jail sounds like probably better than having nothing to do in some ways. Yeah. But what he has to do is just fight an endless string of gem hadars to the death. This is what your conditioning pays off. I really liked how the game mechanics of this were established in the last episode. Like we saw Martok reaching for these columns and tapping them, but that that was not explained it all until this episode. I thought that was a nice bit of television making. I've been begging on war

for a lot as a character, but I want to be clear that Michael Dorn is and always has been really good as him. And I think this is an episode that is a great reminder of like just how fucking hard it has to be to be Michael Dorn and to fight for an entire episode. Like these are all compound move fight scenes that he does. And he's both hitting and getting hit and acting hurt and tired and still delivering dialogue. Like this is a good Michael Dorn episode. He really does a good Michael Dorn episode. He really does a lot of good things in it. There's a huge amount of choreography

and practicing for and executing that stuff takes a lot of dedication. And a lot of time, like you see so little of the fight when compared to the probably hours it took for him to practice for those fights. Right. Yeah, big stuff. Yeah. So he dispatched as the first gem had our, that he fights pretty quickly and says, is that, is that the best you've got? And they're like, no, he was the worst we've got.

You're gonna work your way up. Yeah, worth, this is world 1.1. Yeah, Worf, this is World 1.1. Round 2. White. Back on DS9, Kira and Zial discuss the situation by a gazing window. Zial is missing Garrick and Maticor Dad at the same time. And then Kira says something really interesting, which is you can't judge people by what they think or say, only by what they do. Really?

Yeah. I don't know if that was an interesting take by her. So I'm gonna have to make all my Thanksgiving dinner table arguments about how drunk people get and not about how they vote. Yeah. Yeah, that's not going to go well. We don't get a lot of time to marinate in that comment before a shitload of Klingon warships decloaks off of DS9.

One of them containing Galron. They request permission to dock and without any hesitation, Cisco granted permission granted. Yeah, this really seems like a calling all cars situation They request permission to dock and without any hesitation, Cisco grants it. Permission granted. Yeah, this really seems like a calling all cars situation, a Wolf 359, if you will, in progress. Right. So, Galron is in six bay when Cisco catches up with him. And we get the download, which is basically that like the ticks are being used to keep DuCott's promise. They are running all of the Klingons and Make Weas out of Cardassian space.

Gauron basically had to turn heel and run to keep his fleet intact because they were so badly overwhelmed. And this is a great opportunity for Cisco to pitch Galron on rebooting the Kittamer agreement. A treaty between the Federation and the Klingon Empire is dead. Galron's plan is very admiral hand-signy. Like he seems very willing to push all his chips in Like right here and now. Yeah, he's like I withdrew the fleet to deep space nine will make our last stand here like all of this seems very familiar And Cisco sort of pivots him into a Revival of the Kittermer Accords as you say like why not combine forces and make sort of a super wolf 359 if you will.

It went so great for Cisco last time. Yeah, no kidding. This is got to be very traumatic for him. I love that he just has an iPad with kidomer agreement 2.0, like ready to go for a galron to thumbprint on. Yeah, hold on galron. It's not picking up my face. I've got to type in the code. Oh, take off your sunglasses, that might help. The arrival of the Klingon fleet is concurrent with a couple of changes that we see around the station. One of them is like you just see a lot of security walking around with the dustbuster

exels. Yeah. It's looking fortified and ready. And I think the episode does a good job in just making you feel low key tents like that. It's not the shopping mall vibe that we have gotten in most episodes on the promenade. Right. We cut into a runabout and Bichier Gold Edition is fiddling behind some panel, and that is just a wordless scene. It's left for us to wonder what that was about.

I think he's just looking for some sunglasses you might have left there, right? Oh yeah, maybe. He leaves some sunglasses in the center console. Yeah. I took them off to get it into my telephone, but I forgot to put them back on. To be quite honest about it, I was in a pair. A fucking campaign. Mr. Bucket, I have to reverse back to my bed state. Oh, I don't use the bucket anymore.

Back on Camp 371, the fighting continues in Warf is 5 for 5, which seems pretty legendary at this point. Yeah. He has broken some ribs, though, and that makes me ask the question, does Warf have double the ribs of a human? Oh, man. Just double everything. Like a shark and teeth. Oh yeah, does he have a second row of teeth behind the first row? If he has doubled the ribs, then he really can't suck his two cocks, right?

He just has to have choices many removed. Right. Are they conclusive, Mr. Scott, since Klingons have no tear ducts? I thought it was nice to see all the blood coming down his forehead, but I wished that there was like a boxing coach style dynamic between him and Mar-Tok,

where he would like get back in the corner of the ring and like get coached up and then like, somebody would be trying to like patch those, those loaf wounds and, you know, keep them closed because it's messing up his sight or whatever. It's so there for the taking. You're right. Like that kind of thing. That and that kind of storytelling has, has got to be very attractive to the show,

but it does not choose that lane. I wish like like the gem had our being a terrifying enemy could be so enhanced. If you made the case that this was like a blood sport that was being broadcast and like lots of gem Hedder were watching never commentary and stuff. Yeah, I wondered the same the idea that there's just like a 11 gem had our Stationed on this dumb asteroid and Warf is now killed five of them like I Don't like it. I think that this is very interesting, right?

Like the Gemadars supposed to be this like force of nature enemy where they're like, they're like the toughest soldiers that we've ever encountered. Warf has with his bare hands dispatched five of them now. Like, wouldn't that be a blow to the Gemadars psyche? You think? I wonder if Warf ever thought of going full Risa here like you know you guys are on this prison and you're just

taken the prison life for granted with all these fights. There's serious stuff going on outside these walls. Maybe if I turned off the weather control unit, you'd be a little more focused on the important things. That was like, oh, wharf is such a bummer. Just trying to enjoy ourselves on this desolate asteroid. I didn't go to that meeting in the Neptune 5 conference room. This is ricer for the Gemhead Art.

They love coming and working at the prison camp. Yeah. It's nice for the Gemhead Ar. They love coming and working at the prison camp. Yeah. It's nice for them to abuse prisoners. Feel like you're onto something, like some little tweaks would serve to juice this up a little bit. Yeah. As it is, I mean, it's exciting and hard

to watch Warfgett is asked kick this way. Yeah. But yeah, I think there's some meat on the bone. A parallel conflict is happening behind the wall where Garek is working away at this reprogramming, this transmitter. And we've established that it's like really hot and uncomfortable back there also. So he's kind of like pep-talking himself as he does this work. This tunnel is mine as much as anybody I dug it. I build it.

I was buried many times. I go and I want it. And Bashir is like making him take 15 minute breaks for every hour of work he does and stuff. You know, they're very eager to move the process along as fast as they can, but it's not a survivable environment back there. Inside the wall, Garyx, sort of the soldier in the foxhole, psyching himself up for his lady back home.

You know, like he's, he's talking to himself. He's thinking of Zial and like trying to psych himself up into making it back home to her. Like there's a lot of that. He's got a real zeal for Zial. There you go, Ben. There's your title. That's a great title. Thank you. I think I'm editing this one, so it's up to me, but... When we cut back into the cell, like we do a lot of cross cutting between the fight in the ring and inside the cell, because inside the cell, they're sort of looking to see if the guards are distracted. Yeah, and going like this.

Because when the police come around. And when we cut back into the cell, we hear a banging from the inside. And that's a concern because Gerek is usually a little more careful than that. And it's the sound of a breakdown inside the Garrick's having. Yeah. Garrick is, by all accounts, the only person to fix the transmitter, they have that, no one else who can. And he at this point is a mess on one of the cats. Yeah.

I always have the subtitles turned on when I have the episode open when we're recording. And one of the subtitles in this scene is in like brackets, banging continues. Ha ha ha. That's great. You know a subtitle writer has got it, let's get a give them a smile. Yeah, that's a fun one for a subtitle writer.

Yeah, like Bashir has to go in there and rescue Garrick and put him in a bid. And there's a little mini McLaughlin group between Bashir, Worf, and General Martak, where they're like, boy, this does not seem like it's going to work. Like, Derek is going nuts in there. And I think we need to start strategizing about another escape plan.

Back on DS9, the space around the station is still filling with ships, but the sabotage continues, and it is putting everyone on edge. And one other thing that puts them on edge is an incoming FaceTime by Goldicat for Cisco. And Decat has a great deal for Cisco. How would you like to join your friends and family in a business opportunity that involves the dominion? It's really cool because you get to live. But if you don't choose to work with really cool because you get to live. But if you don't choose to work with us, you're going to die.

Imagine a pair of scissors sharpened up to cut through a penny. That's kind of what the dominion offers. Yeah. Everyone needs a pair of scissors, right? Yeah. They practically sell themselves. They sharpen themselves.

DeCat is a hell of a salesman here. Yeah. But Cisco is not even trying to hear this, and in fact tells DeCat to bring it on. Yeah, he says, literally, come at me, bro. Now watch this drive. I think if you're Cisco, you have to at least float this up the chain of command, right? Does he have unilateral authority to decline and invitation into this?

It does not seem like a captain level decision. No, it does not. And if we're talking about existential style destruction, which certainly seems on the table, like once Beijor and DS nine fall, I mean, what is going to stop the ticks from swarming into the entire quadrant? And then the next quadrant after that, like, I think you have to at least float it.

Yeah, but well, I agree that there needs to be some acknowledgment of this in the scene. I do think that Cisco is probably operating from established Federation policy. Like, they're already on a adversarial footing with the dominion and there may just be directives that are like, you know, the dominion may try and like make overtures of peace in the guys of turning us into client states of theirs. But we will, we're not interested in those kinds of of theirs, but we will, we're not interested in those kinds of, those kinds of opportunities. Right. And there's nothing like amplifying the tension through an administrative act.

So like I understand why they didn't do it for that reason. Right. So this goes like, well, I can't give you an answer now. I have to ask my boss and he's going to have to ask his boss. I'm sure you understand. Yeah, they have a hardy laugh about your accuracy. Why don't you give us, I don't know, six months to think it over? What are you doing? What are you doing now? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,on, throw some Bashir references in there. Yeah. That's a, that's all Eric needs to hear right? He doesn't want the song to also mention the cowardly Cardassian that failed to get the escape plan going. Mar-Tak is not the corner man that is

concerned for his fighter because his fighter, Worurf, is pretty certain he can't continue. He's ready to quit on a stool. Who are you ringing the bell like in Grodzenjutri? And Martak is like, no man, we're not gonna be able to write these songs unless you get back out there for your eighth fight. Yeah, he's really pep-talking Wurf and Wurf is like, I don't want your laugh. Save it, Dad.

Martak and Worf though are in agreement about one thing, and that is Garrick's courage. Yeah. Like they are seeing Garrick struggle mightily. I wish they had said this to Garrick though. They're like, they're like huddling with each other, like whispering like, wow, what a baller. Like facing your fears like that

That's fucking savage shit and garrick is the one that needs to hear it to apply the boxing metaphor again Like garrick gets off the mat that is his cot Stand up and goes back into the ring, which is the area behind the wall Nobody's nobody's spraying water from that weird water bottle into garrick's mouth. Yeah. Someone needs to do that. Maybe the brain could do that. I'm sure the brain have pretty cold water, right? Oh, yeah. It's nice and nice and icy cold. Yeah. Delicious. On DS9 O'Brien and Bishir are wrapping about things. We're never going to get all these

handships up and running. I have every COVID is in you chief. Now that makes all the difference, doesn't it? This is a fun bit of comedy in an episode that is not funny at all, because Bashir steps in it with his reference to Darts at an inopportune time. We're facing a major interstellar war, and you're thinking about Darts? And is this no reason... Here to be an example of how Bryan was an idiot not to see something was wrong?

A life must go on. I don't know. Like, there's still no reason to suspect that he's a changeling at this point, because Bashir at certain times in the series has just not been socially on the same level as his environment. Right. Because he's talking about like, hey, I ordered these great new darts. And O'Brien is like, dude, like our fucking station might be under attack. Like, I had to send my wife and children to the planet in the hopes that that will be

something that keeps them safe. Right. It was a reminder that this isn't face-off, you know, like it isn't Dr. Bashir. It isn't someone playing Dr. Bashir who knows Dr. Bashir. Right. It's a gold doing it. And so I think that's an interesting take on the body snatch that's happened here. I mean, he does a good enough job that nobody thinks Bashir is weird. Yeah. This is one of a couple of scenes where we cut around the station and just sit with characters who are expecting the worst. It's that calm before the storm. And it. And I feel like these scenes are really smart writing

because they all feel like the moment before all hell breaks loose and just all that war starts. This is an episode that watched best of both worlds and learned from that moment where Picard walks the ship at the end of this nebula. Like, that's one of the best scenes in that episode and it's that pre-war stuff that extrudes the tension here. Right, that's a conceit, but it's a healthy one.

We get Zial and Quark, and weirdly Zial is, you know, like the classic feminist criticism of Star Wars is that Princess Leia has never met Luke before, but she's comforting him when Obi-Wan can Obi-Dais after her entire planet got destroyed. It's kind of a similar vibe here where a Zeal is like, don't, Quark, maybe the Vorta are gonna be good bar customers. For all we know, the Vorta could be gluttonous, alcoholic sex maniacs.

I never thought of that. The unfounded positivity of youth, basically, is that I read this. Like, she has no idea. She has no life experience or worldview to speak of. Well, and also just women always being put in the place of comforting men. Yeah. And men that don't deserve it, case in point quirk. Quirk is dreading what is to come, but I think if you were to list the people on the station who had a possibility of positive outcomes,

it may begin an end with quark. That might be a very short list. Yeah. He's the kukuracha of the station. He's going to make, hey, no matter who is in charge. He's going to be serving cement mixers made out of the white all day. Another cocoa no-no? Well, like, you know, like, do Cot wants the station.

Like that's, that was part of his FaceTime to Cisco. So it's not like it's just gonna be gem and art and gold. It's like, it's gonna be. Yeah. Cardassians are a familiar customer to him. Break out the canar. I bet he's still got a bunch of yammex sauce down there

in the store room, you know. Let's go. I love that shit. I love that each time we cut to the exterior of the station, the space keeps filling with more and more ships. Because at this point, the Starfleet task force has arrived, including a hood class out there, which you know had to be pretty disappointing for everyone on that ship.

I said two hood class starships. So at least one of them could be the hood. Is it possible that there's multiple hoods? There is no fucking way to sodo is anywhere near this scene. This is way too hot for him. Yeah. Senses report the USS Hood is closing on an intercept course at high warp. That's odd.

It's like, what about if I patrol Vulcan? You know what? Someone's got to make sure Vulcan safe. Might as well be me. You know, not all heroes wear capes. Some heroes do finger guns and wink at their buddies. Just think about the morale hit that would happen if we lost the hood. Yeah. And it's captain. You know, everybody talks about how the

enterprise is the flagship. They're the best and brightest. But I think what also provides comfort to the men and women of Starfleet is that the hood is out there chilling the most for all you sinners. The hood's out there and it's wearing the big Lebowski robe and it's like it's flowing like that Bejure and Saleship around the SOSTER section. Yeah. The Hood of Bides. Back on Camp 371.

Martak is making the case that punctuality is an honorable trait because they're just sort of waiting for the next contestant to fight Worf. And that Enbus is revealed in short order to be Akadika, which is sort of like the main guard who's been talking all the shit up until now. Yeah, he's the top gem hadar. Yeah. They got their catchphrases, right? He says.

Victory is like Worf says, today is a good day to die. I can't believe that there have been what is going to be eight fights. And in none of those fights, Ben, we get the straw ripped from a gem hadar's neck and the milk squirting everywhere. You got to go for the straw. That is just such a nackily's heel. there's got to be a rule to this game. It's like fighting someone in middle school where you're like, no punches to the face. Yeah, but that's like, that's like a, like, if you're in a prison camp, you're not observing

the markless of Queensborough boxing rules. I know, I'm agreeing with you, Finn. It is insane to me that in this context, there could possibly be a don't grab the straw rule. It's don't ever go around unlike off days and say today is not a good day to die. They've ever just been like at the mall with DAX trying on a new pair of shoes. I just turned to her and said today is not a good day to die.

There was a time when that line really jacked me up, but I'm too cool on Wharf now. It doesn't do anything for me when I hear him say it. That bums me out. I really liked it in this episode. You know what would have won me back over again is if he pulled out that, if he pulled out a Coddica straw and like, squirted it into his eyes to blind him. And then he like holds a thumb like over the opening of the straw to get like extra distance

and it's like shoot people outside the ring. Oh yeah. Uh, yeah, I like to, I like to get it from two different gem hadars at the same time and spray it all over my face. Like, what would it, what would happen if Lorf grabbed the straw and then blew into it? I guess if the end of the straw that came out when you yanked on it was out of the canister of Ketrasel. Oh, yeah, you're just blowing Ketrasel.

Well, but if it came out of the canister and you're blowing into the gem had already, you give them like a, okay, yeah. What is that? Like a, like an oxygen bubble in their blood? Oh yeah, you'd give them an embolism. And rambulism, that's the word I'm looking for. I was going to say aneurism, but that's not it. It's embolism. That's the reason you flick the hypodermic needle before you plunge it into your skin. I'm told that that's a bit overblown though. The flicking the hypodermic needle. That's not really necessary and most in like modern medicine, but they do it because it looks great on camera.

The like squared a little bit out. Hmm. Well, that's true. Premedicine can get you pregnant just as... I'm so grateful to you for that. You mean for that warning? No, just that reference every time. I wanted to talk about prime bishir in the prison. I don't know if I thought this yet last episode or if I brought it up or not, but I feel

like Cidig is playing bishir really differently in the prison camp. Oh, like it doesn't feel like prime Bashir to me. And I think that that's intentional. Like he's kind of playing gold edition a little bit more true to expectations. And I think that his prison camp performance is a little like a little fucked up and Intentionally weird because he's been in jail for a month

He's been ground down and made very desperate and I think it's like a subtle distinction But I think it's there and I think it's really good The Kardashian, where is he? Outside I suppose I think I can really get with that I think one of the ways that if you're playing two parts, if you're playing the same person twice, and one of those characters is someone masquerading as that character, but you want to make it appear as though the masquerade is effective, you play off of that one by making your other character

more neutrally affected, right? And this jail scene, Bishir, has a very neutral effect in a way that I think serves the gold edition and serves maybe the quality of that subterfuge in a way, right? Yeah, yeah, he's a very zesty character. I feel like. Zesty, zesty. He really has, he's got a lot of Elan for what he does. And this, the prime basher that's in prison just feels muted in a way.

Yeah. Well, the reason you ask is because basichir pops up in this scene where the guards come in looking for Garrick, and in so doing, they find the pry bar that they've been using to pull the panels away. And it's a scary moment because the finding of the pry bar means that the chances of discovering Garrick back there are pretty good. It's like they found Andy Dufrains rock hammer. You know, like what if they just found Andy Dufrains rock hammer? That would be bad.

Just worn down to the nubbin. Yeah. And, you know, he tries to explain it away. They cut back to the yard and like the scenes of Derek dropping wall panels out out the bottom of his pants Yeah, so this is where we start to inter cut with all of the excitement back at deep space 9 pretty rapidly because we've got Romulan's showing up. They're gonna join the fight. And they start to detect shit tons of dominion and Kardashian worships entering the space.

And they're like, all right, it's popping off. Back to prison camp. And Bashir is still trying to explain the pry bar. Makes a self-stealing stem bolt joke. And the gem had our turns around and vaporizes one of the Romulan prisoners. And then it's like, I'm going to vaporize this other Romulan prisoner if you don't tell us.

And but she was like, okay, fine. Like, we hate the Romulan. The gemheadar haven't discovered that weapon holster technology that only allows the wearer to be at the proper angle to pull out the weapon from its holster. Yeah. Yeah, because the brain grabs one of the guns. There's a like a mutual vaporization event. Yeah. Yep. That brain is gone.

I wanted to get to know that, brain. Yeah. It's a rarity to both shoot at the same time simultaneously. Most of the time it's just one and then maybe the other. Yeah. But another, another gem in Argonne's vaporized and Bashir neck stabs the last one. And so, Garic is able to finish the work. We get a cutaway to Wurf in the Thunderdom fighting the final boss, and he is really getting his ass torn up.

You know, he's like getting knocked to the ground in Marthok. He's like, man, like you have done everything you needed to do to demonstrate your honor. And this is when this gemadar says, I'm actually yielding the fight. Yeah. He proves himself to be the one gemadar out there that is with honor.

I cannot defeat this Klingon. All I can do is kill you. Pretty great story about the gem-hedar, you know? Like, Akatika's appreciation for Warp here makes me respect the gem-hedar a lot. Right. And the way that he puts it, I think, is also really well done. Like killing him wouldn't give him the satisfaction of winning the fight. He can't win the fight.

Yeah. And he knows it. And that's when the Vorta orders Akadika and Worf executed. And the other gem had our don't flinch here. I start licking shots and that is just when Garrick gets the connection made because suddenly everybody is beaming out and they beam up to the runabout and Garrick is very quick to get in the driver's seat and start driving them away but Garrick has Marurtalk take worth back to the mysterious back compartment of the

runabout. And they, and they start heading back to our deep space nine as fast as they can. And Bashir is like, we got to get a message to the station. Do you think they recovered the runabout that Quark and Odo crashed on that mountain planet? Do you think they ever got it and repaired it? I don't know, because the, so the station is now like getting ready for all out war with all these Gem and our, and Cardassian warships

that are headed in. And they're like, all right up all the all the runabouts and three runabouts are available. Yeah, and I feel that's why I asked the station has only ever had three as far as I know but then we also hear about runabout runabout pad e which implies that there are there's room for up to five runabouts. Hmm if not more. Yeah. implies that there's room for up to five runabouts. If not more. Yeah. Yeah, and it sure seems like there is a dearth of parking possibilities, you know, just out in space.

Yeah, that's kind of like my neighbor. In my neighborhood. Yeah. Especially on Wednesdays and Thursdays, because you know, the next morning is Street Sweeping Day. Yeah. Very inconvenient. Yeah, it's really rough. If we have a social obligation on a Wednesday night, it's like, fuck, do we take a taxi? Because almost spending like $30 to take a taxi seems better than driving around the neighborhood for an hour when we get home to try and find a parking place

Have you really done that? We certainly have because we don't have we don't have off-street parking at our apartment That's brutal. Yeah You know what deep space? I moved to Brooklyn so that I would never have to think about parking again parking at our apartment. That's brutal. Yeah. You know what, Deep Space? I moved to Brooklyn so that I would never have to think about parking again for my entire life. And my wife made me move to California where it is the only thing anyone thinks about.

Sure sounds like fun. Hahaha. Yeah, it's great. You should try it. You really want to do this. Here. Now, okay, okay. Let's do it. Back on Deep Space 9, they are expecting this tick fleet to arrive any moment.

But they're everywhere. They're everywhere. Like they're everywhere and nowhere. O'Brien is like scanning and they seem like they should be there, but there's nothing to lock on to. It's very confusing. I knew it was right then when O'Brien receives a signal from the G quad from Dr. Bashir,

and they're like, Bashir, where's Bashir? And they ask the computer, where's Bashir? Bashir is not on the station, where it was see last scanned, which is a follow up question to where is Dr. Bashir that should always have been asked in the history of Star Trek, right? Like, where is X? X is not on the ship. It has been a plot point countless times. And this is maybe the first time that the follow up question is, what was the last place X was at? Yes. Great job, O'Brien. And, uh, and Bashir is on a runabout. And without any more information at all,

Cisco orders the Yukon destroyed by the little D with extreme prejudice. Major, you have new orders. Not to capture, not to bring back, but to destroy. Yeah. You know what, there is a significant dollar value attached to that runabout. I know. I feel like someone needs to say it. You're crazy, Bertie.

You know what? There is like a one and a half minute little story arc in this episode about Bashir Gold Edition flying toward the star at the center of the Bay Jor system with some kind of bomb on board his runabout to to cause the sun to go supernova and wipe out the combined Klingon, Romulan, Federation, Fleet, and Beijor and Deep Space Nine all in one go, that is foiled within that one minute and 30 second plot. Like we get the idea and it's over a minute

and 30 seconds later. The runabout's been destroyed. It really blew my hair back. It's how much is compressed into this moment? That is like a Star Trek discovery level of just like... This happened now. Whoa! I mean, also related to discovery,

we asked a question recently of how much damage a single... Bad operator could do in the Federation. Yeah. And this... Yeah, and the trouble with Edward Episode. Edward Lockhead. I think this is the new leader on the board, the destruction of a star,

a planet, a station, and a fleet. Yeah, and it's a real... It's a real clean operation. Like, all of the warp signatures they've been detecting have been faked. So the Dominion plan was basically get everybody that would oppose us in one place at one time and blow their star up and we'll just take them off the board entirely.

Yeah. Very elegant design to this plan. I really admired it. Yeah. Very elegant design to this plan. I really admired it. Yeah, that kind of... In a way that I feel like most of the founders slash Vorta, slash Gem, had our plans are, they hang together really neatly. Yeah. Wolf 359 would not have shit on the destruction of the entire Bejor system. Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Is it called the Bejor system? Have we ever learned the name of the star that Bejor orbits? I don't think so. That seems weird, right? It does. We rarely see it even. I think it's been in a couple episodes, but yeah. I like that Kira has to take the little D to warp inside the system to go chase down Julie and Pachangling.

That was fun. There's like that moment too where Dax and Kira like, should we do it? Instead of we don't, there won't be a solar system left. No other choice. No other choice. All works out. We get a lot of buttons at the end of the set,

basically a texito shirt of buttons. Yeah. We have an NBA player suit number of buttons. Yeah, we have a Steve Harvey amount of buttons at the end of this episode. Because we've got to go around the horn and we've got to see everyone's story concluded here at Quarks. We see Garek returning to embrace the all.

O'Brien talks to Bashir about how weird it was that he didn't know that he was friends with the wrong Bashir. You get Dax canutling with Wharf. We get Cisco and Galron discussing the plan ahead and that plan is One that includes returning to a permanent Klingon presence on the station Galron's a lot like me in that he will look at a Page of information that a government wants from him and fill it out and sign it without really reading any of the fine print Yep fine print. Yep. Yeah. They're going to need a rep from Klingonco to stay. And that person's going to be Mar-Toc. Mar-Toc is going to stay on the station. Yeah. Mar-Toc's going

to be a series regular. It's probably for the best, right? He doesn't have a lot of depth perception anymore after the whole eye thing. Yeah. He's going to be terrible with darts, right? Keep him at a quarks. He and Morphe have a lot of esteem for each other, so that's who it's got to be. And I guess it's the final button on the episode is a facetime between Ducat and Cisco. And Ducat is like, this is going to be great for the golf resorts, I operate. You know, we're gonna get a lot of government business at those. Deral is booked completely.

Yeah. And, and Cisco's like, you sold out your own daughter. And he's like, she sold herself out. She sided with the wrong people. Loyalty to me is the only thing that matters. It's not loyalty to the state or loyalty to the people. And that's when DuCats says, make her to ask you a strong again. They both sort of mutually threaten each other

with what will happen tomorrow. And that's it for now. Yeah. Did you like the episode Adam? I like it when the stakes are existential and it felt good to have an episode where shit is going down in such a way that a star could explode

and a planet could be destroyed. Like great big stakes. I love that. And I also like that's like a two inch thick stake. Yeah, yeah, really is a Tomahawk steak. They were really good this episode and in the episodes leading up to it at doing that thing where they made you equivocate about your feelings for gold to cut. Like maybe, maybe he's an anti-hero that we could like.

Maybe, you know, he's not as bad as we think. And it serves the double cross in a fun way. I didn't see it coming. And I didn't see it coming because I think it was set up so nicely. And it was satisfying when it finally came. And seeing to cut installed as beloved leader, like it makes me smile in how awful it is.

Like, like, Aldiqad is back to being a bad guy. He took the DNA test. He's 100% that bad guy again. And I like it a lot. He took the DNA test, he's 100% that bad guy again. And I like it a lot. It's the realization of all of the setup. And I think the setup paid off, what about you? Yeah, I mean, I think that especially just everything

in that last episode where suddenly DuCott seems like, oh, maybe we should be friends with this guy. What's a really fun episode? It's a very fun no-founders stuff episode. I guess gold edition bashears a founder, but the fact that change leaders not there, that they're so far above this kind of shit is really fun storytelling as well. Yeah, I really like this whole arc. Why don't you see if we have any priority one message that we'll really like, Ben? Okay, we could do that.

Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. Need a supplement on that. Priority one message from Starfleet coming in on Secured Channel. You need a supplemental answer. Supplement? Supplement. Supplement. Yes, extra. How do you interest alone? Could be enough to buy this ship!

Then our first priority one message is of a personal nature it is from. Your dork boss and it is for Smith. Message goes like this, hey Smith! Whether we're interrogating the Feranghi as a parody of 90s American culture, or shaking our figurative canes at today's youth, I'm so happy to have you as my number one. Let's science the heck out of some plant diseases.

Wouldn't want to do it without you. Wow. You know what I like about that? I referenced to the Martian. A good Met Damon Jessica Chastain movie. Yeah. Yeah, I like that movie a lot. I like the book even more than I like the movie.

I also read the book. I liked it. Yeah, it was pretty good. The preferred time frame for this message is before the end of DS9, and that is just a great time frame. Good job, Dorkboss. Yeah. You're guaranteed to get this one read on time. We're heading into December and I think we're pretty free up in terms of P1s for December. So if you have a December P1,

go ahead and hit the maximumfund.org slash jumbo tron right now. Yeah, our second P1 is from Manasseh-Rit. It's a short pants. It's like this. To the best guy in the quadrant, a message from the fever dream passed in the days after we brought home baby number two. We love and appreciate you so much. Thanks for being a 24th century partner in a 21st century world. You know I plugged Manassari into the Google. Yeah.

And what came back was a Manassari is a genus of damsel flies in the family of Calaptary Gidey Ankilles or Wow damsel indeed Yeah, that's fun. I'm also seeing a lot of like Greek or Roman Bar reliefs in this in this Google search It must have some must must have some like, mythic association. But when I plugged in to Google short pants, I got pictures of shorts.

Yeah, Greeks and Romans did not have that technology. Well, if you were to plug in maximumfund.org slash jumbo-tron into your web browser, you would be taken to a place where you can send personal messages to people about either something personal or a fun business opportunity you might have. Both of which go a long way supporting the ongoing production of this show. Make sure sure do. I like That's what I am, I'm so sorry. Hey Adam. What is that been? Did you find yourself a drunk Shimoda? A Reddum. Drunk Shimoda!

I like Akataka as my drunk Shimoda. I like that he has got that resting, not happy to work here face. Mm-hmm. Whenever he has an interaction with Wurf or Martak or whatever, he never seems cruel. He just seems kind of resigned in a, these are the rules of my workplace, kind of way. And even when he gets into the ring at the end, it feels like it's not about him at that

point. He's, I try to figure out whether it's sort of a suicide by cop way out of a work situation he doesn't like, but I don't know if it's that. I think he feels an obligation to seeing this scene through to the end personally. And I think he has a very specific code of honor that he's prescribing to. And it feels obligatory in a strange way. As obligatory as anything else that he does, it is a very interesting performance by him.

I really liked his work. I did too. I think he really rises to the occasion of having like noticeably better loaf than all of the other alien second string characters in that sequence. He was really good. Yeah, my drink Shemota is gotta be Cisco

for the snap decision on destroy the Yukon no matter what. Just like, he has so little information when he makes that order. And, uh, just felt like that was a real drunk Shimoto move. Yeah, I felt the same way. Yeah, hope he's right. Yeah. He's usually right.

Well, uh, I hope you have another episode of Deep Space 9 to tell me about Ben. What are we watching next? Well, Adam, what's next is season five episode 16, Dr. Bashir, I presume. When Bashir is chosen as the model for Starfleet's holographic doctor program, the process threatens to expose a dark secret from his past.

Oh. That sounds interesting. process threatens to expose a dark secret from his past. Huh. That sounds interesting. Adam, why don't you load up the Game of Buttholes? The bill of the profits and tell us how, just how, we will be experiencing this episode. You're required to learn as you play, roll. Ben, I've loaded up the game. I've loaded it up big time. You dropped a load on the game?

What the game is telling me at this point is that we are on square 45, where exactly one square ahead is a cocoa-nono episode. And a few squares beyond that, a space but butthole which would take us all the way down To a fuck it we'll do it live up. Wow safe to say Danger ahead a number of fronts. You're a real one roller in my experience, so I do like to roll a snake eye and Here we go

snake eye. And here we go. I have indeed rolled a one, man. Just like clockwork. What the hell? You knew what was going to happen. You knew I knew everyone knew. I would roll that one. And so next episode will be a Coco, no, no episode. You and I both know a cocoa, no, no episode is a special teaky theme to drunk a sod where you and I will be making teaky cocktails and doing an episode of the greatest generation while enjoying them. Yeah, I'm a big, big fan of the teaky theme of fake culture. So I will walk forward to this with great anticipation. You just insulted a lot of island nations

with that comment, Ben. A lot of island nations that pretty disappointing. White, ex-service members, vaguely, culturally appropriated when they got back from World War II. Well, sounds like you're a lot of thoughts on that, man. Yes, and I'm sure this will be a real slap in the face for Samoa and Tahiti and Fiji. Boy, just nothing like cruising into a good time with a lot to have on your conscience. So, thanks for making it fun, Ben.

Yeah, you know, any experience of Tahiti that doesn't involve a little bit of white guilt just isn't my style, Adam. Yeah. Yeah, that is most definitely your brand. Well, I am looking forward to that, and I'm looking forward to experiencing that episode guilt-free, Ben. Wow, fuck. You're a real piece of shit. Looking forward to experiencing that episode guilt-free, Ben. Wow, fuck.

You're a real piece of shit. Well, I personally would feel extremely guilty if we didn't think the many people who made this episode possible. Of course, I'm talking mostly about the friends of DeSoto who go to MaximumFund.org Slash Donate to continually fund the production of this show. Yeah, we should also think Bill Tilly who makes hilarious trading cards about this show. He puts them on Twitter using the hashtag GreatestGen where Adam is at Cut for Time and I'm

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Wow, gauntlet just got thrown down. Yep, I'm throwing it. I want a Creme de Benin based cocktail. Buck. A guilt-free creme de... I want the name of the cocktail to be guilt-free good time. Right? Man, you gotta get the the G-Fard banana-dubrae-zeal. That's the good stuff. Tastes like bananas foster. All right, well if some friends of DeSoto want to drink along with us,

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