The Group Chat - #10 - Jack Manifold IS SOBER. WE SWEAR!

Episode Date: May 6, 2022

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Welcome to episode 10 of the group chat podcast with our special guest. Who can they be? It's the Joker. British Joker. British Joker. British Joker. Oh, it's the society. Did she go into the city?

Did she go into the city dressed as Joker like really recently? I went into the city yesterday dressed as the Joker and it was the worst experience. I hate it every minute. Oh, really? Seriously. So. Did you get attacked? You know what?

Funny, you ask that because there was a kid that So I was with Billzo who was dressed as Batman at the time And some kid just went Hey Batman, come over here And we just went over Because we were recording and fuck it

And this kid like I didn't go over But like Bill went over And I couldn't really hear him And then he went I just remember hearing Oh, you're lucky I don't stab you in the head fam He fucking threatened him

For being dressed as Batman And he was like You emo neat Fam and then let's let. He was like, I don't even know. He was vexed because like Bill was dressed as Batman. He was really pissed off.

They hate Batman over there. They're like villains over there. Nah, they're the Ridler family. By the way, before the podcast stars, I'm really drunk. You'll just need this to be known. I need people to know.

I'm on like my third glass of gin. And I've had more before this. Is that all gin? This is gin. No, it's not. I went to watch Dr. Strange today. And it was so shit, I've had to drink it away all day. Is it his big?

I hate it. I hate it. I saw people saying that I went there just to see the Avatar 2 trailer. genuinely, it was dog shit. I thought it was awful. Avatar 2 is coming out. What? That's actually so bad.

Oh, yeah, Avatar 2. So you can only see the trailer for Avatar 2 if you watch Doctor Strange in cinemas. Why? That's how I get money. That's how they get you. By the way, Avatar 2 trailer, literally there's one line of dialogue. I don't know what the plot is.

It's just blue people, blue people, blue people running. We're a family. Blue people, literally that's the whole trailer. It tells you nothing. It actually tells you nothing. You know what? I'll go watch Avatar 2 and I don't care.

I'll go watch as well. I was almost good. When's it released? I have no fucking clue, man. The summer, I think. I thought. I went with like a group of 10 university students.

Holy. We were just drunk. It was, I saw all my Twitter feed, there was a whole bunch of people going to see Dr. Strange. I didn't hear a single opinion about it until right now.

I didn't even know that you. No, I will tell you, like, so most of the people in Brighton because there's like a shit ton of the Minecraft YouTube is living in Brighton. I went with a friend

and a bunch of his uni friends because like I was busy when they were going to go, like all the YouTubers were going to see Dutch Strange. All the YouTubers fucking loved it. But me and the uni students fucking hated it. So it's a real mixed bag.

I just thought it was like the dialogue was really corny. Like without spoiling the movie too much. Like there was a line where Dr. Strange goes, you're going to have to do more than kill me to kill me. It's okay. Yeah, that's true. The worst is writing in a Marvel movie. That's actually terrible.

You're going to have to do worse than kill me. I want to say, though, you're wearing a Deadpool shirt saying Dr. Strang is trash. It seems a little biased. It's a Deadpool shirt. No, literally this shirt was two great British pounds. I just saw it in a prime mark and I was like, yeah, this will do. This will do.

And I just picked it up. Don't take it as a love for Deadpool. Where, has anybody? Literally, I don't want to stand up too much because I spilled alcohol on me earlier. Do you like Deadpool? He's got like a tattoo of Deadpool like on a store. I don't want to say it up too much. A Deadpool tattoo here.

Put the mask on it. I got it. dudes, I don't even like Deadpool So you're talking You're talking about Brighton Having a bunch of YouTubers over there Is that like the Austin, Texas Of like the UK

Brighton? Yeah, pretty much I feel like all the like Dreamass of you guys especially All moved to Brighton Like the ones that don't live near Brighton Live close Wow Like I don't know why this became the hub

But like it is just the place everyone is Like I think 2016 like all the big YouTubers at the time so they're like, PewDie Psi Zoella, like all those people all the British people were like, like, because all the YouTubers at the time were in London and everyone went

oh fuck it, London's like too busy, there's so many influencers I want to move away to the seaside where it's like chill so like PewDie Pye Zella, all those people moved here and then all the fucking MCYT like DreamS and be fuckers but like I'm gonna move to Brian! Yeah! And like we all just fucking invaded and now PewDiePie Hates us I'm sure.

Can we take a moment to realize how weird that is, because we have a very similar situation here for L.A. Oh, really? L.A., yeah. Everyone was moving to L.A. and then randomly Austin, Texas. Because why the fuck not Austin? There's cheap. I was in Austin last month. I fucking loved every minute,

man. Seriously, good time. I mean, yeah. I mean, I got canceled, but like, other than that, good time. That's all right. That's fine. I got it. Jack, I saw what happened. No, you tweeted and I appreciate it. I saw, yes, I saw your response and I, I'm not even kissing your fucking ass.

Like, I just loved the way you approached it. Like, I saw how you tackled it. You're always like clear and concise about everything you were saying. And you were just real about it. Like, it took some balls. And I have to. No, no, but this is the thing. I think, I think apologizing for things you're not sorry for is wrong.

Like, just like simply. And like, I apologize where I felt I went wrong. Because there was a couple of moments in that stream where I went wrong. Like, I'll apologize. for him. But like overall, a lot of the points I made, I still stand by. And like, I'm going to defend them. Because like I throughout this whole journey in like, like, because I think a lot of people who see the dream S&P assume that we're like just like pandering. I think a lot of people see people pandering. And it's like, personally, I never did. I, I said exactly what I felt.

And any moment where people when that's wrong, I either apologize or I stood by it. Because like, I want to be true to myself throughout this whole journey. That's, that's the most important thing That's raw. That's raw. That is real. That is the real thunder we know, baby. That's the 13.08. We love him. We love him. We love him. Me, Nick and grunk have known each other for like, fucking how long now, like two years? Like two years? Yeah.

So long fucking time. Long fucking time. Wait, but Tanner, were you on S&PF? So was Isaac and so was Larry. Oh, what you were? Oh, fuck. That wasn't it? Jack, I had more viewers than you on SMP Earth.

Don't you ever forget about that. You probably did. You probably did. I was a nobody on SPF. I was a nobody on that server. Literally, I joined S&P Earth because I was Willba's Maud. Like, I used to a mod as Twitter chat and his Discord server. Like, I was one of World was Mods.

That's how I came about. Jack, I have a screenshot of you. I think it's grunk. I think it was, I'm going to say so chipple-dipple. And a few other. A few other guys from SPF. Yeah, but like funny clubs specifically.

We all tweeted out, I love women at the same time. Yes, I remember. I love women. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a good time. And you know what? True.

I love women. I love women. Give it up for women. I love women in chat. Yes, sir. I love women. Three love heart emojis. I love them.

I just fucking love women. Whatever thing they do. Yeah, I feel like everyone don't know the serious like backstory to us and how we all. kind of No, like, I think a lot of people

will seem on this podcast and be shocked, but like we know each other for like years. Yes, that's insane to think about. That's actually insane. No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Grunk, when we met, you were like 10 times bigger than me. Ten times.

I know. Now, look at us now. Grunk was an essential guy. You're two times bigger than me. Dude, that's so, that's so. Dude, I haven't uploaded in four months. I haven't uploaded in four months. I'm full enough.

You streamed today. I'm in the same boat as you. I haven't uploaded in four months. No. Hey, as of this recording, my comeback's like this Sunday, I'm so anxious, so anxious about a comeback. Nervous? But like, oh yeah, yeah, I'm nervous. You're going to kill us.

I know it's the best video I've ever made. Like 100%. It's the best video I've made. And I mean that with 100% confidence. But the thing is, YouTube nowadays is just title on a thumbnail. And I can't. I've been working on a thumbnail every day for a week. I can't get it right.

So I'm fucking shitting myself. Thumbails are the hardest part about making. That's my least favorite part of YouTube. This is the thing. There's two types of people. There's people on YouTube who either get titles of the thumbnails or they get content. And I feel like I understand content better than the titles and thumbnails.

But modern day YouTube, that means nothing. That means literally zilch. If you can't secure the click, you're good as... Literally, like, I've got one of my friends coming around to my house tomorrow just to help me make the thumbnail because it's fucking killing me, man. I've been on it for like three days. It's hard. It really is.

I remember the one time I met up with... I met up with Nick Tanner and Larry. This was when I was supposed to upload. I was at Nick's house. I had Larry on Photoshop and I was like looking over him like that one, the one studio meme where I was like, I was a little dirt. I was like,

I was on the bed back there. I was like, yeah, dude. No, no, I was like, I was on Photoshop and then I'll like move something and then he'll like pull out his finger. You can I'll move it. This is all my room, right? There's all your room. This is literally me tomorrow.

I have two YouTubers coming over tomorrow just to help me make a thumb now. It's so absurd, but I'm so desperate to get this right, because I haven't allowed it in four months. Like, if I fall off, there's no way. Dude, you're secured. No, yeah. You're in such great hands.

YouTube's such a fucking scary platform because, like, I have two mall subs, and every single day I wake up, and I fucking fear falling off. That's in this. crazy. Hold on. That's insanity, right? Like, it's insane. I remember, wait, you said two mill you have? I'm just below two mill. I'm like 1.98. What was it like February? I was like, the race is on, Jack Manifold.

It was like a race in 500K or something. This is the thing. I struggle to like comprehend how quick I blew up. And I think that's why I like took the four months off. Because I needed to like sit and just like reflect. Reflect on the fact that like my first month I gained 700K subs. That is why. I went from 100K to 800K in a month.

That was way too much for me to just process. Like I needed the four months off just to sit down and go, my life compared to four months ago is completely different. And like, I like, because I beat myself up about taking that break all the time. But like, I have to sit there and reflect on the fact that like, that was such a life change that like no one prepared me for. You know what I mean? Right.

You can't mentally process stuff like that in like... No, no, no, exactly. And like, this is the thing. Like, I literally, my biggest month on YouTube was 700K subs in a month. Sorry, I'm so drunk. I apologize. I'm so fucking drunk. We tell you why.

I get really introspective when I'm like really drunk. But like, 700K subs in a month. And like, that shit fucks you up. Like, it's like good. Don't get me wrong. It's so good. Everyone dreams of it. But fuck, that's a life change in a month.

Yeah. Even 100,000 in one month is a lot. 700,000 is nearly 1.000. I'm, like, right now, I'm going to be completely real. I am losing subs per month right now because I haven't allowed in four months. And I gain so hard that, like, right now I'm losing. Because I'm not uploading. I haven't said your size regardless.

Like, people always suck. Because I'm not, because I'm not uploading and I'm, like, just stagnant. I'm losing subs. And, like, I'm in this mental state right now where it's like, this video feels like life or death. And it probably isn't. But it feels like it. It's not. It's not.

It feels like it. I can empathize. I can empathize. I had multiple times like that where I was like, if this does not go right, I am doomed. I remember I gained my first month of YouTube. I hit, you know, I hit a home run for like 140K subs in a month. Which is insane. Which is insane.

Like, like, I'm talking about 700K, but that's like unprecedented. Like, that's still insane what you're talking about. Right. And I was, and I literally upon receiving all of that attention, I did the stupid decision. I did the stupid decision of I literally dropped out of college and quit my job which was I do not recommend anyone to do that. I did the exact same

shit right like I remember the conversation at home with my boss right where like I was in a so I was doing a like degree apprenticeship which in the UK is like you go to university but you also work in 95 in the field you want to go into so like I was doing IT support

I was trained to be a software engineer so what I'd do is I work 9 to 5 7 weeks and then on the 8th week for two weeks, I'd go to university. And essentially what everyone did in that seven weeks, I'd condense into two weeks and do like six hours of lectures a day. It was insane. And then every night at 11 p.m, I'd go live and stream for three hours.

So I was sleeping like three hours a day. Like that was like my startup. Like I was like work, uni, three hours a stream, sleep for three hours, go to work the next day, try and fight to stay awake. And then like repeat. It was awful. It's always a side hobby until it became That was like the first two months of me doing like

Content creation. It was fucking horrible. It's bad. And I did that for a few months. And then I remember like I was earning like good at that. Like I got at the point where I was earning okay. Like I was like I could live off it. And I remember going to my boss and I was like, hey, I think I'm going to like, I explain to me what I was doing.

I was like, look, it like already leaked into the office that I was like doing this YouTube shit. And I was like, look, you kind of know what I'm doing. I don't have the time to do. this anymore. Like it just I because IT support relies on things going wrong. This is the thing with like IT sport. Your job is to fix things a break. If nothing breaks, you just sit there

like a fucking lemon like in your chair like and the thing is I'd sit there doing nothing because nothing was breaking like I could be fucking making a video right now but I can't because I'm at work. And I'm here for the next seven hours. Yeah. Right? And like I'd go into the fucking like we had like a big server room where we had all the

like servers at our workplace and I'd just go in there to sleep. Like I was so sleep deprived. It was fucked. And I was like, I remember telling my boss, I'm like, look, this thing's doing me pretty well. Like, I think I'm going to leave. I remember him, like, legitimately asking me, like, he's like, how much do you make? And I told him, and he was like, yeah, I'll be honest. We're never going to pay you that much, ever. Like, he was like, my boss was such a sick guy. He's like, we are never going to pay you

that much. And he's like, as your boss, I am pissed off that you're leaving. But as like a friend, I am so happy for you. Please leave. God. The best man. The best fucking man. Like, seriously. Like, he was the best guy. And he was like, please leave.

And, like, I worked there for four more weeks. And then I left. And, like, I swear to God, best decision I haven't made. Like, seriously. That man deserves a nice beer and a nice... Yeah, that guy... I want to, like, meet up with him again

just to, like, go for a drink with him. He was the best... He, like, genuinely, like... Because this is the thing. Like, a lot of people don't have the support of their parents. parents like encourage me to do that. So I was like in a spot where I'm like,

I was like doing content and I was like, I was like, I just joined the dream SMP. So I was like averaging like a thousand viewers, I'd say, roughly. And my parents are like, just quit. Just quit. And like the thing is the unique, I was at university, but the uni course I was doing, you could only do if you had a job.

It was like, it was a weird thing. So like, if I quit the job, I also had to quit uni. So I like, realistically, I probably could. I could have done YouTube and uni at the same time, but the way I was doing the course, you couldn't do uni without a job. So, like, I had to quit. Yeah.

And they were just like, just quit. You can always go back, right? Yeah, that's what they said. They were like, you can always go back. Yeah. And my boss turns to me when I quit, my boss, and like, this is the genuine, like, kindness.

Like, this was just kind. He turned to me, and I quit my job, and he went, if this ever falls off, we'll always have you back. Oh, my God. God bless that man. Genuinely. He had a daughter that was like my age

and I think he just sympathized with like a kid trying to live their dreams. And he was like, please if this ever falls off, please come back. Like I just want me to try this. That man, I actually,

there's like four people that are like, no, five. Like five people like give like this like job to. I was like Tommy in it because he fucking, that kid like fucking mentored me. Like he like genuinely. taught me how to do this shit. My parents for like telling me like quit.

My boss was telling me that's a good idea. And I had this one teacher at like fucking school who was like, you should do this. And like I still hang with him to this day. I still play like fucking Daisy with him like now. Like one of my teachers from fucking school. Because he's just like a sick guy. And he was like, I told him.

I'm like, look, I don't know if I should quit this job. Like I was in secondary school, which like for Americans is like high school. and my computer science teacher, I don't know why, he was just a sick dude. Like, he was just a really cool dude and he used to give me a lot of advice. So when I left school, I grabbed his Discord and we used to play games.

And when I was in university, he was like, I used to hang out with him like every week. And I quit. I think I might quit to do this like Twitch shit. And he was like, dude, if I was you right now, I do the exact same thing. And I'm like 42.

And I would like, and I would drop everything to do Twitch right now if I was in your position. He's like, do that shit. And like, those are the five people I fucking give my life to. Because they're like, I'm in it. How old are you when we met you?

17. When I met you guys, 17. 17? What? Yeah. Dude. I'm 19 now. Wow.

Damn. Damn. That was a long ago. You're 19. Wait, when did you turn 19? August. August. So I'm like, I'm closer to 20 that I am 19.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's a beer of the race. some warriors. Yes. It did. S&P.

No, no. I think a lot of people don't appreciate S&PF for what it was. Tommy in it was made through S&P Earthland. And he literally, I remember he begged Luke, our friend Luke or something, to get on, like,

little thing. Yes, he did. Tommy begged to get on S&B Earth. Luke was used as a stepping stone to great nurse, and he could zero credit. It's so funny. No, but like,

at the end of the day, I'm going to take that shit away from Tommy. He fucking milked S&P. Earth for what it was worth. He did, Like he took that server and he did perfectly what he was supposed to. Yeah. Like no one used S&P to his potential.

No, no, he did. Like Tommy invented that shit. Yeah. And like even the, like, I'm going to say it, the dream S&P was not what it was until Tommy joined. I, that is a powerful statement, but I can back that. I remember actually catching myself watching Tommy in a stream when he was at $150,000,000.

The only streamer I've ever watched is Tommy Annette. Genuinely, I never watched Twitch. I stream on Twitch all the time. I don't really watch it often. I watch Tommy. He's funny. He's a funny kid, and he knows what he's fucking doing. And he gave me so much advice.

Like, he's such a great guy. Like, I'm not going to sit here and like trash shit. He's such a good guy. And you know what's even great, like, crazier about him? Is that even to this day, like, you know how when you are blowing up and you were talking about an unfathomable number, 700,000? Oh, no, no. He was blowing up so hard.

And what I'm trying to say is, He was blowing up even harder than like any of us combined and he's still down to earth. This kid is still so humble. He still responds to my DMs to this day, which is very surprising. Tommy like, like just for an example, like if we want to go food, I swear to God, he will not spend more than like 10 pounds on a meal. Like he is so like, because we grew up. Me and Tommy grew up in similar areas, right?

And they're not the most like, they're kind of poor areas. Me and Tommy, like we grew up in like poorer areas. me and him like he still holds the ideals like he's still like I won't spend more than this on like clothes or like meals and shit he's so down to earth

that's yeah that's good I mean no it's incredible like I can't believe he stayed as like grand as yes yeah he's a he's a huge face in the scene that we're in and it's really good to know a lot of people like see him and like be like oh cringe child

and like I think it's like important to acknowledge like he's very self-aware. He knows what he's doing. And he deserves a lot of respect for how grounded he is. Self-awareness is the key to like success. Oh, 100%. 100%.

So you've got to know what you are and what, like, makes you appeal to people. Yeah. Like on S&P Live, I knew I was the kid and everyone saw me as the annoying kid, so I abused it. And look at me now. And that's what Tommy did as well. Like, literally, literally. No, grunk.

Bro. I'm, I hate this. because I'm so drunk and this is going on the internet but like, drunk, I'm so proud of you, man.

You being involved in this group is so huge. Because like, I just spit. I've genuine, drunk, I'm all of you,

no, no, Nick, you know what? When we met, you've blown, like, all of you,

Larry as well, you've all blown up so fucking hard. Genuinely. No, no, I know I have, but like,

I know I have, but like, I don't know. I got lucky. I feel like you guys really worked. No, no,

no, Listen, listen. Listen. Remember one thing. And it's that, like, yes, you were given a large opportunity, right? You are giving- The dream SMP is huge, but like, I agree. It's an opportunity.

It's not a fucking key success. Exactly. You were not given the key. You were given pretty much a huge clue. Like, you were given something to help you. And it's either you work with it or you don't. And you worked with it. And you still are.

Key word. Key word is work. You worked for your position. We all worked for our position. Don't get me wrong. I feel like right now I'm like chilling. Like I'm 19 and I'm trying to live like a 19 year old right now because I throughout school, throughout life,

I always worked really hard. And like right now I'm just like, you know what? If my friends say, do you want to come out and like have fun tonight, I'm going to do it. Yeah. Because I didn't do that for fucking 18 years.

Yeah. Like I'm going to do it. And sure, my fucking socials have probably suffered from that. But like, I've got to be a person, man. I've got to be a fucking human thing. That's the thing with our job.

is these numbers somehow becomes some sort of reflection of our worth and what we bring. I'm in the same mode as you, bro. I stepped away from YouTube for four months, and my anxiety is through the roof when I come back and make a video again. But look where I've been. I've been working on myself at the gym. I've been working with these guys on building up our podcasts and our brands and focusing on myself. No, yeah, I'm glad you've said that because I'm in the same spot.

And like, I'm coming back this weekend. It's Thursday right now as of us recording this. I'm coming back in how many days? Two days? Two days? And I'm shitting myself. I'm shitting myself.

I fucking posted the promo today and I'm like I don't know if this is going to do well. I'm scared. But I know deep down in my heart this is the best video I've ever made. That's all that matters. I'm proud of that.

It's just quality. I'm so proud of it. It's genuinely the best video I've ever made. Quality is better than quantity in this old YouTube game. No, exactly. And like, look, I upload like two times a month, Max. That's okay.

But like, I just like to take my time with shit. Yep. I like, you know, I like, I've got people. Like, I've got a producer. I've got camera guys. Wow. Like, I like to make sure, like, shit is well made. Right.

You know, I remember your merch trailer. That was really well made. That was really well made. I, I am like a bit of a nerd for cinematography and shit. So I love making shit really clean. Yeah. And the thing is with YouTube, YouTube does, doesn't like thrive off of cool cinematography.

It thrives of thumbnails and I'm not good at them. But I love cool cinematography. So like I can't help myself. I've got to have cool shots in every video. And like, like the next video I've got planned is going to have some cool shit. And like, this video is cool. And like, I'm just. Just try not to be too analytical about it.

That's what I'm trying to be. Like I try to forget the numbers, but it's so hard. this game, man. You have to remember, like, um, like the reason you are in this position is not because of overthinking numbers and stuff like that. Going with the flow and going with whatever feels natural to you is what works in the endgame. That's so scary though, right? There's no other job in the world that is just go with the flow. So it's so weird to sit there and go, no, I'm doing the right thing by going with the flow. You know, someone in this call, yummy, you've been in the game longer than all of us have.

And so Yummy's seen, I feel like the YouTube algorithm kind of change over the- And it has changed. Yeah. Years. So, yeah, I'm curious to now pick your brain on this, actually. Like, what, during your highs and during your lows, what was it kind of like? Because I know we all run into that pickle of, you know, the analytics side of things. But yeah.

I'm curious for your input on that, Yomi. Well, I was going to make a point earlier when you guys were talking about like blowing up and stuff like that. And there is a negative side to that that nobody ever thinks about. And it's whenever you blow up, you know, extremely quickly, you're not learning anything. You're just blowing up. And you don't know what you're doing wrong. You don't know what you're doing right.

There's just an aspect to it to where you're just growing extremely fast. And when that pit comes, you got to know how to get yourself out of it. And you're not going to know how to get out of it. Yeah. I'm so glad you said that because that's like that's where I feel like where I am right now. Yeah. That's a huge thing. like three months.

And right now I'm like, I'm set at like nearly two mill subs. And I do not understand this platform. I don't understand it. I don't understand YouTube. You don't, nobody learns anything when they're doing extremely well. You only learn whenever you start to fall and whenever things start to not work.

And that's where I'm right now. Like at the end of the day, I don't like to admit it. But like right now I'm on my lowest point. That's also, that could be the best point. I mean, this could literally cataple you into a future where now you know everything.

Exactly. And now you have everything behind you. I think a lot of people, Like, I think from the outside perspective, because I grew up watching YouTube so much. Yeah. And I feel like you don't learn until you're inside of it. And you don't learn specifically until you're failing. Oh my God.

Wait, dude, I thought about this today. I was trying to explain, like, my job. Do you, do we realize this for a second? Like, try and think back to before you were in this space, trying to understand how CPM worked. Or trying to understand how anything. Like, any of this worked. There's nothing in this. There's nothing in the space that makes sense to an outsider.

And like, the second you're inside of it, it's so great where you're blowing up. Yeah. And it's so stressful when you're not. Yes. And right now I'm on the back end of a blowup. Because the dream S&P is the, like, the biggest thing you could think of. Yeah.

And the problem is with the dream S&P. And I love it. And I'm never going to, like, sit there and slander it because it is the best opportunity I've ever had. But when you're on the back end of it, it's scary, man. Because you don't get taught how to do YouTube. You're just gifted growth. Yeah. And there's an expectancy behind you because of the group that you're in

and the people you're around. Luckily, luckily, I watch YouTube a lot. And I think I've just about figured it out. And I have a lot of friends around me who are teaching me right now. But it took me these four months that I've taken off to, like, sit with my friends and go, how do I do this? I'm lost. I remember turning to my, before I moved out, because I was living my parents until

like a few months ago. Yeah. And I turns to my dad and I'm like, I think we're going to take a few months off because I don't get it. I don't understand. Like, I was gifted this platform. I didn't make it. I don't get it. And I want to be able to work with it.

It sounds like you have a little bit of imposter syndrome too, though, mixed in this. Like where you feel you're not deserving of what you have. And you got to check yourself and remember that ultimately at the end of the day, you still are upholding those numbers. It doesn't. No. A lot. Yeah. You know what I mean? If you were given something and you weren't meant for it,

you're not going to be at two million. Like people just don't click a button because, if that makes sense. No. I appreciate you saying that. And I definitely do, as much as I don't acknowledge it, suffer with imposter syndrome. I think it's inevitable. This is not the conversation to have when this drunk. But like, these emotions only come out when I'm this drunk.

And like, I don't give a shit right now. Like, I really want to express this. Because, like, I think the one thing that YouTube is. throughout the years since like the fucking conception have never expressed as like what it's like to be on the inside because it's

it's really difficult to understand until you're in there. Yes, you're right. And it's a strange thing to even like. But like I have worked a normal job. I've been in school. I've done all this shit. And I've never been so anxious and stressed

as I am right now as I'm about to come back to YouTube. Like, like I for example, like I have like a really bad, like I suffer with bad anxiety anyway. And I have like an anxious cough. When I have, whenever I have bad anxiety, I cough really bad. And I've had this consistent cough for like two weeks. Because like, I am so stressed about this upload.

I do not know a stress like it. Like it's because like there's something about putting yourself out to the world that is so scary. and like this video feels like so important to me I just can't hack it I'm gonna be honest with you I think that your demographic and the

the content that you kind of post to who you post to it can be a little scary too like I'm just I'm not I'm just gonna be honest No I I love my demographic I'm no problem with them I think it's safe you saying we've done enough deep talking for you Jack

you know you're a little drunk So, like, we could change topics if you want. I wanted to ask, though. It's all good. Where did Thunder come from? The original name. Oh, do you want to talk about it? Oh, yeah.

It's such a simple thing. So there's a children's TV channel in the UK called CBBC. So there's a BBC, which is the main British broadcasting channel. And there's CBBC, which is for children. Oh. And they have a flash game website where you can play flash games. and when I was a kid I wanted to make an account

so I could play flash games and I turned to my mother and I was like I want to be called Thunder but it was taken and she was like just add 1408 that's your birthday so I did and then because I'm

I'm incredibly uncreative like I'm really uncreative it takes me so long to come up with ideas so I was like shit I'm just sticking with that for fucking eight years and since I was 10 years old I've named every account I've made

Thunder 1408 That's awesome Dude you should have got it Because I thought Thunder was cool Because it's the fucking sound of lightning Yeah And 14 o8 is my birthday And that's so well

Seriously That is it It is as simple as that That's the coolest thing I've ever heard My first game tag was Optic Ninja 498 Why did I never hear that before? Yeah you didn't even tell us that

I've never told anybody that really 49 Ninja Yeah I was Ninja before Ninja You were the original ninja I was I introduced my fucking best friend from school to Ninja That was a weird moment

Oh wait What happened with that Like in the Discord call or like Was it like no way In disco call I didn't even mean to So on April Falls I had my best friend from school Pretend to be me on the Dream S&P

So I was like Go on the Dream S&P Just try and convince all the Americans That you're me in Seattle And we can get away with it for And then Jessica Blevins fucking Ninja's wife comes in my chat, Gifts like 200 subs.

And she's like, and she messages me and she goes, call me. Right? So I'm like, okay. I add her on Discord and I call her. She does, we ring her immediately. It's me and my best from school. She's like, which one's Jack?

She doesn't even fucking know which one owns the channel. She's so drunk. She was like drunk out of her mind. Right? And I sit with Jessica Blevins for like an hour and just chat shit. And then Ninja comes in and she's like oh this is Jack and Saj Saj is my best friend

and ninja goes Who? That's a fucking Mega world by fucking ninja Come on What's down my life? Streamer mode Who?

Worst day my life fan That's crazy That's ninja Disrespecting me and my best friend Wow That is that is crazy though So how did you meet How did you meet them?

Like, what are they going to be your time? Literally, literally, literally is as simple as this. I was live. Jessica Blevins comes into my chat, Gifts, 200 subs and goes, call me. That was the worst. That was the word. I don't know how Jessica Blevins find my account. She just donated 200 subs and said, call me.

Simple as that. And was like anything important talked about? Yeah. We, she was drunk out of her mind. She chat absolute shit. It was pure nonsense. But that's how I met. That's like a dream.

I've done recordings with Ninja since, but like, that was the first time I spoke to the guy. And like, his wife was just really drunk and join my chat. How many times she does that? Yeah, Ninja's probably missed. This big account goes down. And the thing is, I was like a little bit drunk. So I was like, hey, ninja's wife, get me ninja underwear. Send me the ninja underwear.

Because they sell Ninja underwear. I was like, get me a free pair of Ninja underwear. Dude. Did you get it? Did you know? I did not. What? Ninja was last.

No pairs of ninja underwear. What a fake person. Do you guys know anybody that actually has a pair of ninja underwear? Not to my knowledge, but I could, if I asked, maybe someone does, but I don't think anyone does. Ask around. Ask around Brighton and see what happens. Yeah. Walk around with your bike.

Hey, you know what? Brighton, like, I love Brighton, but I fucking hell. I don't know why this is the case. but you get recognized so much here. I figured, like, you have to. Like, you're writing as a public knowledge. Like, literally everyone lives there. So I feel like people go there on the weekends just for the chance.

I went out to an ice club. I'm like, wasted, boys. Jackson Hill. Let's name this podcast. I'm so drunk. Holy. Tommy. He did.

He's naked. Back to it, boys. There he is. All right. All right. Amen, brother. So, I peed too.

I peed. You break the seal? Oh, no, we've been drinking for... I'll be honest. We went to watch Doctor Strange at 2 p.m. We've been drinking since then. It's 4 a.m. That's 4 a.m.

Oh, my God. Jesus. Maybe cut that because this is a problem. No, no, no, that's fine. I've done that. I did that, like, literally last weekend. I started at 6 p.m. No, I'm being dead at real.

I went to stay with Schlat like a week ago, and he was like, what do you do in the UK for fun? It's like, it's just drinking. It is just drinking. Do you guys have like superhuman livers there? Say again. Superhuman livers? Like,

maybe. Like, the UK is pure drinking culture. Like, there's nothing more to it. Yeah. It's a lot of vibing with alcohol. That's what I want to do. Did I already ask what your favorite drink was? Yeah.

That's a gin. No, no, I hate fucking gin. This is just a good gin that my friend Henry has. Is that all gin? No, no, no. It's got laminated in it. Okay. You told I was like, it was.

I was like, shan and this much lemonade. Just like this much and this much and this is fine. So what's the thing? You should put some game or stuff in there. Use code group 10% off.

Very. Oh my God. I forgot about that. Gamers so. Gamersups. Gamersups, I'm going to say it right now. Kind of good.

No, it's not bad. It's solid. I have every wifu mix it because they sent me them all. God bless. Good.

God bless. Have you tried peach tea? Yeah. You got to fucking have it. Holy shit. It's really fucking good. Peach D is absolutely good. This is a half

Half-time gamersubs break. Yeah. Half-time. Were we supposed to promote anything? Maybe next week. Just make sure use our code. Group for Texas. Just use our code.

Use our code. Use our code. Group. Group. Guys, use the code group to fucking buy GamerSups. Hell, yeah. That is just a fucking... He's a...

Oh, we got some... Holy crap. You have the unreleased. This is British culture. I've run out of a drink, so they've bought me a fucking bottle of vodka. You've run out of the drink halfway full and they bring you a whole bottle of smyrna up. Okay, I kind of want to get drunk tonight now that he's doing it. I think I'm done with this whole cleansing.

I'll be honest. Like, yeah. I'm very drunk. And the last time I was drunk. And the last time I was drunk was Monday night. That was three days ago. Dude, it's Tuesday. I was drunk last weekend.

we were drinking from 5 p.m. to like 4 a.m. And there was a point, there's like a recording of me. And I was talking, my voice was like starting to go out. But I was also doing my ex-QC impression to all my IRA friends. And they had no idea who XC was. It's like, dude, what are you going to do? He's going to put it into the book. Dikpong.

And they're like, and all the girls there were like, what the fuck is he saying? And I was just drunk. Go for it. Go for it. Go ahead. XQ. I will be in...

Oh, are you going to that thing? Are you going to that thing? Uh, the Amaranth event. Oh. What? The Amaranth. Speaking of which, wait, hold on. That, like, is, like, all streamers competing against each other.

It's like me, SQC, critical. Oh, my God. Is this public... I do. Is this public... Yeah, no, this has just been announced. I'm only announcing people that have been announced already. So it's like me, SQC, critical.

Uh, Lily Pichu, Neat-Chu just got announced. Um... Okay I think there's more people That's so fun What is it It's a competition thing Or?

Yeah, It's a competition But I have no idea what it is I'm just DM me And was like Do you want to do it And I said yes The 28th of May

Oh wow It's really good Yeah I literally right Over the like From the 13th of May I'm flying to Florida Three times

I'm back Florida back Florida back Why don't you stay in Florida? Yeah, why did you stay? Just stay there for like a week. Because I have two things to do in the UK as well. Wow.

I have so much shit. Oh, man. Because, like, my thing, I really enjoy, like, hosting live events and, like, interviewing people. So, like, I don't know how much I can speak about, to be honest. So, like, without going into too much detail, I fly to Florida to watch the Clashor Creators, the boxing event, because Mink's fighting and I want to watch her. I come back to host.

dating show I host. I host a dating show. Okay. Then I go back to Florida to host another event that I can't speak about. Okay. I then come back to host an interview with some, like, big time fucking celebrities. Elon. Isaac Y.

I come back to host Isaac Y. I then go back to Florida to do the Amaranth event and then come back home. Oh my God. You are always going somewhere. Speaking of the whole Amaranth thing, how the hell Jack manifold did that happen?

The Iron thing, I don't really sexy. Like, genuinely, Amaran's, so Amaranth has a shit ton of PAs. She has like a bunch of personal assistants to like help her out. Because she is like working 24-7. Like she is like, I've never met someone more dedicated to the grind than Amaranth. Like she just is constantly doing shit. Oh, 100%. She's always doing shit.

Like every time she far, she fucking bottles it and sells it. Like, you know what I mean? That's true. That's real. No, that's real. There you go. That's real. That's real.

Amaranth is insane. And like, full respect to her for doing it. But she has, like, a couple of personal assistants. Like, one of her personal assistants is a big manifold fan, apparently. So, like, she made the connection. So, like, Amaranth just invites me shit. Wow. That's so cool.

That's so cool. It's really fun. Amaranth is genuinely, like, one of the smartest entrepreneurs that I know. I bet. Genuinely. Like, beyond her content, like, business sense. she's a genius. She's very intelligent.

She knows what she's doing, and I have a lot of respect for that woman. She's genuinely the only streamer I watch now. I'm on Twitter. I only watch Twitter. I don't think, I'm 12. Listen,

I think I have 100,000 Amaranth points in there. I genuinely think so. Like, if I'm not doing anything, I'm watching Amaranth. But yeah, no, Amaranth is, no, she's great. She's genuinely, like,

the most dedicated person I know. I'm on Twitter, a random afternoon, and I'm scrolling through and I see Jack Manifold with ball stickers on and emmer right next to him

and I am completely like my entire world is shattering before I don't even know what's going on I saw you a fucking tweet you're like some years living my dream living my dream right now and you're next to her on a stripping ball I'm like that's bullshit

but no like genuinely I think it's just her PA was like this guy's kind of cool and like full respect to her fucking put my name forward. What was

your first interaction like with Schlat when you met him in person? True. Oh, in person. Oh, me and Schlatte, I like hung out plenty on Discord price of then, so we was like so chill. Schlazl. I love Schla. Did you guys give each other a hug? Did you just say what's up? What did you do? I gave him a hug. I

fucking love Schlaat. He housed me for nearly two weeks. Like, I fucking love that guy. Like at his stomach where like... Oh, yeah, I guys tore as fuck and I'm a fucking... I'm short as fun. I'm five for eight. guys like six foot two. I'm fucking short. Like, I'm like, fucking eight. I like hooked him and I kissed his nipples.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's tall. Wait, you're five age? Nick's practicing. I'm five, eight, five, nine. I thought you're like six four. Nah. I'm not, I'm not even gonna lie.

I'm too drunk to lie. My whole worldview is like gone. I thought you were six four. Are you, like, are you taller than tubbo? Yeah, yeah, I'm told than tubbo. Okay. Tubbo's like four three. I'm skinny, so I have like the tall man build,

but like I'm just short. You got the tall man's jeans. Yeah, yeah, but I'm short really. But you're short. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You look good in a suit. You look mean. You look good in a suit.

You look in a suit. You look in a big cigar. Just get a big cigar. You just needed a big cigar. I'm glad you like the fucking sneak snag wedding. Yeah. Like, I worked hard on that fucking fit. We were like looking at it.

We were like, holy shit, Jack looks good in the suit. You stood out. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. You looked like fucking. Connor McGregor in that I promise you I worked hard on that suit like the turtle neck the suit I was hard

so I appreciate it Jack you might remember this the very first time you ever showed us you had a suit was at your prom yes yes it was yes it fucking was remember that shit I can't go to that because I had to go to work

my date was Alana fucking Fancy dude I remember every detail I remember every detail you remembered your big night I'm in a big night The soft willy prop I got my I got my heart broken at the prox

Wait really? You can talk about that right Alright Go ahead You have the floor Nick did his thing I mean you can if you want It's up to you

Just I don't know Grunk your teeth A fucking immaculate mate By the way No they are not Brunk has fucking amazing teeth I know

A tooth just fell Dude a tooth just fell Dude, a toothed his phone and turn brown. They're like yellow. Grunk has amazing teeth. I can tell you're drunk. But I'm immensely drunk. I'm immensely drunk.

All right, Jack, compliment me now. Tanna, you're built, fan. You are. I look at your fucking Twitter and you're lifting fucking more KJ's and I think, my lord. God, thank you so much. Pure power. Nick as well, you're lifting, bro. Yeah, Tanner, dude, Tanner's got some big ass.

fucking legs. I got some powerhouse legs. I got Thunderthigh. I got Thunder 14.08 thighs. Jack, I want to work out with you one day. I want to see you. You guys live L.A. right? I'm sorry? You guys live L.A. right? No. No.

We're all spread out. We're all spread out. Are you guys going VITCOM? Yeah. Wednesday next VITG? Because we are going. Yeah. I'm excited. I will see you. all at VidCon. I'll go to VidCon. I'm not kidding you.

Where is this Bitcoin? No, I'm lying. VidCon's June. TwitchCon's July. Either one. Oh, TwitchCon? I'm bringing a nice big keg. I've got some big shit coming up at TwitchCon. I got some big shit at TwitchCon. Yeah? I'm not allowed to speak about it.

Okay. Under contract. Good. Can you tell me in? I can do it. Then you don't do it? No, I've been told I'm not allowed to speak about it. Oh, okay. TwitchCon is dope. TwitchCon, I've got some big shit coming up.

It's gonna be sick. TwitchCon. You're taking over. TwitchCon, I know we're making. VidCon we have to make. We have to. You guys are YouTubers.

Yeah, we have to see what's the point of now. I'll see you go to Vitcon. I miss Pax. I miss Pax. I miss Pax and I'm pissed. I wish I went to Pax. I did too.

My Pax was like two hours away from me. What is Pax? It's just a gaming. Yeah, but it's like a lot of creators go and they hang out. Like most creators that go to these events really don't do much time with the events unless they have.

shit like obligations there. I'll be real. You're just going to hang out in the city. It's bad. You're just going to be fun. That shit's going to be insane. You should, you should buy a Twitchcon ticket just to see my shit at Twitchcon. That's insane.

I'd love to see your shit at Twitchcon. I love to see your shit. You're gonna walk up. I'm drunk guys. I'm so drunk. I'm so drunk. I'm funny. I'm funny when I'm drunk.

Yeah, that's why I drink. You're dude. And I try to go out. I drink the funny pink liquid. I love gin and lemon. Drink a little rum. Press go live and you're going to have the best stream with time. If you think that's not what I do, you're insane.

Exactly. I'd be doing that shit. I'll be doing that shit. It's the key. For all the new streamers out. No, I'm just kidding. If you guys would have a funny stream, get some favorite subs, get some vodka. Get some water.

I've said too much. shit on this podcast. For all the audio listening to send me the audio I'm sorry in the Jacks

please send me the final cut this podcast I'm so drunk I'm don't worry the final cut I'm his manager

he's allowed to say wherever he starts he can say whatever he wants on Twitter on

let me start happy let me at TwitchCon this is this is my Instagram is a Whisp

is that Whisp? Is that this is open give me this give me this Game of sucks. That's it.

Very famous. That's game of service. Code group. He's loud. How long you guys are for? As your PR manager, I'd recommend you drink more because it makes you say more small things. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Wow, what is great. That's a great man. No, but it's good because the end of that I'm saying real shit right now. I appreciate it. You're fucking, you spit bars. I appreciate it. You spit. You spit.

That cough, man, dude, I've heard so good. No, you spit. You fucking spit, man. Yomi's blushing right now. I am blushing. If you guys need to do a fucking other YouTubers, please let me spit some grind. All right, let me.

Please let me spit some grind. This is it. Hold on. Hold on. This is it now. Jack Manifold. We're going to end this podcast, I think. But we're going to ask you a question.

Well, we can, we can. Sure. If you have something to say too, yummy, but I want to ask you a question. This is my closing thought. Would you want to be on this next album that we're making? If you make an album, I want to spit grime. I don't know how.

I don't know how. I don't know. how, but I want to spit with a young cage, he'll walk you through it. You'll know. You'll know. I'll tell you this right now. This is,

this is young cage's mindset. And it's that if you ever tell him, you cannot sing, you cannot rap, you can. And we're going to get you to sound amazing. You know, I was exactly up with you.

I will spit British crime on your next album. Oh yeah. This video gets, what I mean, how much, like, what's your average likes? Four.

If this video gets five likes. I will spit British Grime on the next album I mean 100%. Would we hear you on a drill beat? I will spit on a drill beat five likes. Five likes. Five likes.

Five likes. Hit the like button. Five likes. I spit Grime on the next album. There it is. All right. That's pretty good. Because I fucking love growing.

Slow time. I don't think we're ever going to hit it. Okay. I'll get you in touch with some people and we'll make that happen. You'll be an artist before you know it. You'll literally be like a rapper for the rest of your life.

Look, off part, no, we can say this on the podcast. I'm working on a song right now. And I have turned down

like mainstream artists because I don't want to do anything before I met my own song. Like I don't want to release, I don't want to feature, I don't want to be on anything before I've released my song. Okay.

Like I send out a few people. But like, if my son comes out and you guys want me, I will spit grime. Okay. I don't even do grime, but I will spit grime. You can spit grime.

So you can spit it on your album. We'll get you. touch working on the album. It's going to be worked on pretty much sometime this month. But we'll keep in touch and we'll make something happen and then you just... I'll spit some grime. Spit some grime on your album. Go dirty. Go dirty and

go gross. Yeah, I want the nastiest stank face when I... I want the most evil song you can possibly make. Yeah. I want to listen to any like grow horns on a big hell. Raised in Midlands don't a half of. Damn. That's already hard as ever.

You were going to say something before? I stole it from slow. I grew up in Northampton. Go on. I just wanted to make sure we hit that crisp one hour mark before we were finishing hour. Oh, we've been going for an hour and five. Look, look, I apologize if I've said shit.

I'm so drunk. I don't want to look you guys. If this is a dead recording, I will re-record me guys. No, no, no. It's definitely good. This is the best recording we've done ever, actually. I don't even know who said that. I'm so drunk.

It was Tanner. No, it was really insightful. Like, it was... No, yeah. No, when I get drunk, it is really interesting. About YouTube, because I think YouTube

is the best job in the world, but it's... There's a lot that goes unsaid. You don't want to drop the dream job, so you just like, you just want to... It's like a lot of stress that goes into it.

I appreciate what dream gave me at the end of the day. No, no, no, no. I didn't mean like dream job. No, no. I will say this. Dream gave me a lot, but the end of the day,

no one... You blow up a hundred, no, no, listen to me. I'm upset. 700k in a month and no one told me what I was doing. That's scary as fuck. Yeah. Yeah.

And at the end of the day, that's hard. That's hard as hell. I want people to know that because like that's important. There's no cookie cutter method. There's no cookie cutter. YouTube is a constantly changing platform. It's always adapting. No, I'll tell you what.

I've said today, there's no trends right now. There's no trends right now. The only trend is Mr. Beast. It's Mr. Beast. It's Mr. Beast. Mr. Beast. The only trend is Mr. Beast's drama. Came Star is popping off again.

Really? A lot of drama. Look, I just cut myself on a bottle lid. Oh, my God. I didn't meet to, but I'm bleeding right now, so let's... All right. Yeah, that's a good starting. That's a good stopping point.

Thank you, Jack. Let's wrap up on. Cone and bloods. What's the code that we're going to use for G-Sups? Code what? Group. Group, baby. Code, group.

Use code group. We better need that. We better need that. Crude right now. I'm going to love your mother Why do you say Forever love your mother alive And then he's gonna

Pet your dog I'm bleeding So let's go Oh my god, yeah you should go get that Go get that Get's falling off Literally go