The Harland Highway - 941 - A visit to the AFTER LIFE! School shooting solutions. Celebrity news!

Episode Date: May 7, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, what a crazy show we have today, ladies and gentlemen. Hello, everybody. This is Harlan Williams. You are rolling down the Harland Highway. Yes, and today we're going to mix the ethereal with the serious and the informative. It's an eclectic show today. We're going to pick up where we left off on the school shooting thing. That's kind of the serious part.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Around mid-show, we're going to be talking about. We're going to be taking some phone calls from some of the pavement pounders and hear their thoughts about the school shootings. And, in fact, a school teacher calls in and gives us his point of view, which I found really fascinating. Also, we're going to be going into the ethereal. We're getting in touch with a man who apparently passed away but came back. And he's going to share with us his moment going into the afterlife. He believes that he may have passed into the beyond, but he was revived, and he came back. And we've all heard these stories about people who think that, you know, they walked into the light and they saw God and all this and that.
Starting point is 00:01:12 So we actually have a gentleman who's been through that, and it's just, it's going to be fascinating, I'm sure. And then lastly, some celebrity news, speaking of going beyond, a friend of mine has died, a famous actor, and also another actor that I just love. Wait to you hear it on the Harlan Highway. I have an announcement to me. You're about to go down the Harland Highway. Lock the door. I don't want to be a product of my environment.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Shut up. I want my environment to be a product of me. You're riding down the Harlan Highway. So, put a little bit of my environment. How do you fuck to get off this phone? I can get you off. Maybe? Maybe not. Maybe fuck yourself. Ha! You're a cantile-up.
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Starting point is 00:02:32 The rest is bullshit and you know it. How many of you believe in the afterlife? How many of you believe in the afterlife? Ooh, that's kind of a heavy way to start the show, Mr. Williams. Well, it's a question, you know, I think we all think about. How many of you think that when you die, you go off into another? place, another plane, and your soul or your essence or whatever you want to call it lives again. And from time to time you hear these incredible stories about people that, you know, have passed
Starting point is 00:03:12 away for a few minutes, their hearts have stopped. They've been, you know, in intensive care, or they've had a heart attack or a stroke. And for all intensive purposes, they've been pronounced dead but then they come back to life and they claim that they've they've seen something or they they they witnessed something they they saw something while they were in that state and somehow they're brought back the doctors bring them back or their heart starts up again and they bring back with them the experience of the other side as they call it and so uh we have a person, and I thought it was such a fascinating topic, we have a person who experienced such a thing, and we asked him if he'd come on the show and share his experience with us,
Starting point is 00:04:08 and graciously he's agreed to be here, not here, but talk to us on the phone. And so this is going to be riveting. I've never met someone who claims to have been, well, I did meet someone a long time ago, actually, but I didn't get. get a chance to grill them the way I want to, you know, ask this person. So without further ado, this gentleman can tell us his story. I'll let him tell the story and explain what happened and what he saw. And I think this is going to be a really intense segment and I'm excited. So let's bring on, Roger, is he on the phone?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah. Okay, let's bring him on. It's Daniel Eckers. Where's he from? What part of the world? Yeah. He's from Atlanta. Okay. Daniel Eckers. And I'm not going to ask what he does or what he, I can ask him all that when we get on the air. Okay, here we go. Opening the show, delving into the afterlife, let's open up the phone line and take this call from Daniel Eckers.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Hello, Mr. Eckers. Are you there, sir? Hello, Mr. Williams. Hello, sir. How are you today? Well, I'm happy to be alive, sir. I'm very grateful to be alive. Yes, great to hear from you, Mr. Eckers, and quite an experience you've been through, and thank you for sharing with us today. May I ask, sir, right out of the gate, how old you are? Absolutely. 79 years old, sir.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Oh, my goodness. And so let's jump right in. Tell us what happened. You were, you were, you were, something happened and you were, I mean. Well, let me tell the story if you don't mind, Mr. Williams. Please, I'm fumbling a little bit because I don't know where to begin. First of all, can you tell us what you do, sir, or what you did? Well, I was, I worked in a warehouse.
Starting point is 00:06:26 I was in the packaging department, and I had a long career. It was a very uneventful life, but I made a steady paycheck, and I was happy, and I raised two kids, and my beautiful wife, Samantha, God rest her souls, passed on. But it was a good life, a good life, Mr. Wood. Williams. Fantastic, sir. And so bring us through what happened about a year ago. You were doing some things, and this tragedy struck, so to speak. Well, you know, in retrospect, I wouldn't call it a tragedy.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I would refer to it as almost an enlightenment, Mr. Williams. You know, initially, you know, when I had my heart attack, I was like any other person would be. I was filled with anxiety. I thought, how long do I have? And I thought this is the end. But the events that unfolded that are borderline supernatural and almost unexplainable filled me with a whole sense of renewal and a brand new outlook.
Starting point is 00:07:51 look on life. Wow. So, so if you don't mind talking about it, sir, where were you? You said you had a massive heart attack? I had a massive coronary heart attack. I was walking actually through a parking lot.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I was doing some shopping, and I was walking back to my car. And all of a sudden, my body just froze, like I was his hip at a stun gun, or, you know, some kind of Arctic breeze just froze me in my tracks, and I couldn't move. I could see, I could hear, but I couldn't move my limbs. I would just, I would just be completely immobilized.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Wow, and was there anyone around? Was it? Well, you'd think there would be in a parking lot, but I guess the distance would have it. Uh, there was no one coming in out of their vehicles or, uh, out of the stores, and, and I just stood there, kind of transfixed like, like a deer in the headlights. And this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this feeling came over me, and I could feel a deep, hard to talk about it, but I felt a deep, deep pain in the middle of my chest. Oh, my God. Yeah, I think everybody fears that. sir. Oh, it was immediately, I think I understood what was happening to me, Mr. Williams, and I was just, you know, I kind of looked up to the sky, and I thought, my God, is this the day?
Starting point is 00:09:41 Oh, my God, sir, this is dramatic, and so how long did this last? Well, almost before I could finish my thought of saying a prayer or whatnot, I think just started to fade. They started to go, excuse me, Mr. Doyle. That's okay. Take your time, sir. I thank you. I appreciate that. On a respirator right now.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Oh, okay, just no rush, sir. Thank you. so much, and so things just started to fade to black, and I could just see the light going out, and the next thing I do, I felt myself falling, falling right down onto the pavement. Oh, my God, that's just frightening. And after that, everything was just black, and I thought, my God, it's over. And yet, in my head, I was like, well, how can I be aware that it's over? If I'm aware, then I must still be alive somehow, Mr. Williams.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Yeah, I think you're right. Like, it sounds like your mind was still actively working, sir. Exactly. And so there I was on the ground, surrounded by darkness. And I think my eyes were still open, but everything was black. And all of a sudden, from the edge of the darkness, I could feel a light coming in. I could see, visually see a light coming in.
Starting point is 00:11:25 It was a beautiful light. It was white. And it had flashes of red in it. And maybe even a little tinge of the yellow. And it was the most... just take your time, sir. We understand that this is hard to... It's hard to recount this moment.
Starting point is 00:11:52 It was the soft, warm, warm, inviting light. It was tingees of yellow and red and white. And suddenly I felt a renewal within my body. I'm like, what is this? What is this I'm seeing? And I started to go, go, go, go, going from scared and alone in the darkness and shut, light. Oh, God is my witness, I suddenly felt warm and alive, and it's like this light was reaching out to me, and I slowly got up out of the ground with all the strength I had, and the pain in my heart was subsiding.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Oh, my God. So it's almost like you were recovering from the heart attack. I don't know if I was, I don't know. Just, it's okay, sir. Take your time. Thank you, Mr. Wood. I don't know if I was recovering. If I was being delivered, if I was being delivered back into the world.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Mr. Williams, I was gone. I was down on the ground. I could have been there for 15 minutes. I could have been there for half an hour, sir. Yeah, I guess you don't know if you were unconscious, if you blacked out. You don't know how long you were out. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:25 And so, with all the strength I could muster. And again, I was afraid that even moving would trigger my heart to have to seize on me again. You see? And I pushed myself. up off the ground and there was this light and I remember I extended my arm
Starting point is 00:13:47 I put my hand out in front of me and I felt like it almost touch it and I started walking as to one foot after the other I started walking towards this beautiful inviting light it was begging me it was calling to me
Starting point is 00:14:05 oh my God sir this is This is, I mean, do you think this was the light of God? I don't know if you're religious, but do you think this was the light of eternity, of the gateway to heaven? I don't know. I don't know. All I knew in that moment, Mr. Williams,
Starting point is 00:14:24 is that someone was calling me, and I had to follow it. Oh, I filled up with so much joy, and so much beauty. It's like my, My soul filled up like an empty tag. Mr. Williams? Yes, yes, sir, yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:14:49 It was like touching the face of God. It was like embracing pure unbridled joy. I can't even describe without getting emotional. How much that light renewed renewed me filled me up brought me back
Starting point is 00:15:15 from the precipice of wherever it was that dark empty crevasse that I was looking into Mr. And then there I was
Starting point is 00:15:24 guided into the light like a moth to a flame and it was beautiful I could feel tears rolling down my face over my cheeks
Starting point is 00:15:37 and I could taste the salt in my tears not the light it was it felt like it was eternal that it was otherworldly that it came from
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Starting point is 00:17:15 Oh, my God, sir. Yes, yes. And this is what I talked about in the intro that people seem to be drawn to this light. They recollect seeing a light that was warm and like heavenly and so on. Oh, all that and triple, quadruple that. Excuse me. Oh, my goodness, my respirators. I just let me just give me a minute to adjust it out. Yes, take your time, sir. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:17:48 So anyways, yes, we'll continue, sir. This is riveting. What happened next? You said you started walking towards this light. Oh, and as I started walking towards the light, I thought, is this it? am I headed into into heaven
Starting point is 00:18:09 is this maybe I'll come to face to face with my wife and then in the din of the light and the ambience of the light I suddenly started to hear a voice oh my God
Starting point is 00:18:27 oh my God my God is exactly what I thought was doing I'll try to recreate it but it was a distant, a distant, comforting, warm, inviting voice. And at first I couldn't make it out. It was like, it was mumbled. It was garbled, it was garbled, Mr. Williams. It was hard to make out almost inaudible, if you will, sir.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Oh, my God. And, I mean, you're in this din, you're in this, din, you're in this, fog, as you say, and out of it comes this, this, this, was it, was it a voice like you'd ever heard before? It was not, Mr. Williams. It was otherworldly. It's the only word I could use to describe this voice, sir. Otherworldly, it did not sound like a, like a voice or that I had ever heard before, sir.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Oh, my God. This, I'm on the edge of my seat here, sir. And as was I, Mr. Williams, if you could imagine. And so now my inclination, my instinct, my spirit maybe. I don't know if it was my inner spirit was following the sound of this voice. It was just guiding me. Take it easy, search. Do you need to adjust your oxygen tank?
Starting point is 00:19:59 Just a minute. Here we go. Okay. for your patience. Absolutely. So you're going towards the voice. You're in the white and red and sort of yellowish light. The light is getting stronger.
Starting point is 00:20:16 The closer I get to the voice, the stronger and louder. The light gets the light. I'm sorry. It's okay. So you understand you're emotional. You said as you got closer into the light. light, deeper, closer to the light of the voice, uh, got louder. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Oh, my God. Yes. It, uh, it got louder and it started to become clearer. It got clear as I got closer and closer to the light. And I heard, well, what was that, sir? Well, still, I, I couldn't make it out, but I got closer and closer. And finally, I heard real clear Mr. Williamson's clear as day. I'm right up to the light.
Starting point is 00:21:15 And I hear, for the first time I hear, I hear the words coming out of the light. Oh, my God. What were the words, sir, do you remember? Oh, I'll never forget them. I've changed my life forever. I'll never forget them. Can you share what these words were, these otherworldly words were, sir? Yes, I'd like to.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Okay, please, sir, go ahead. What was the words that came from the light on the other side? The words were welcome. oh my god like you're being welcome I wasn't finished Mr. Williams Sorry sir, go ahead
Starting point is 00:22:07 Welcome welcome to the Wendy's drive-thru What was that, sir? I heard it as good It was in a different voice I'll try and emulate the voice
Starting point is 00:22:29 Wait, what? It was like, welcome to the Wendy's drive-thru. Welcome? Welcome to the Wendy's Drive-Ther. Can I take the order, please? Welcome to the Wendy's drive-thru, sir? Oh, just hearing you say it takes me back to that place where I was almost in a trance. I was the white and the red light.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Wait a minute. Wendy's did. Isn't the Wendy's logo, isn't their sign for Wendy's white and red and with some yellow in it? I'm sorry, are you asking me, sir? Yes, you said you saw red and white light and a little yellow. That's correct. It was otherworldly. Well, those are the colors, the corporate colors of Wendy's, and you're saying that the voice said,
Starting point is 00:23:29 Welcome to the Wendy's drive-thru. May I take your order? Oh, just hearing it again. It sends, oh, give me a second. It sends the shivers up my spine. The hairs on the back of my neck are standing up. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Sir. Sir, Daniel, if you could just control yourself for a second, what happened next, sir? Well, of course, I was discombobulated. I'm like, I'm on another planet. I'm on, where am I? And I look behind me, and there was people lined up. I don't know if these were other souls,
Starting point is 00:24:11 other souls waiting to get into the gates of heaven, but there were two lights and horns honking in celebration. I don't know if they were angels. Angels blasting their trumpets. Two lights and horns. Oh, it was hard to look. It was an intense white light. And the horns, like,
Starting point is 00:24:36 eh, e, e, and just a line. Just a line, you know, seven or eight deep. Light, horn, sir, were they car had lights? I don't know, I don't know, Mr. Woods. I think they were angels. I think they were angels, and then they were blowing their trumpets. So it sounds like car horns, perhaps. They did a little bit, a little bit, but who knows the secrets of angels?
Starting point is 00:25:07 And they were like, e, and then the light started flashing, and I'm standing there talking to God. You're talking to God? Oh, I remember it as clear as day. I remember his voice, and he was like with that strange, alien foreign voice. He was like, would you like to try our double baconator cheese burger? Sir, were you in a drive-in-law, the Wendy's drive-thru? I was at the gateway to heaven.
Starting point is 00:25:41 And I'll never, he said, would you like fries with that, sir? Would you like fries with that? Oh, there is again. Oh, my God. Would you like fries with that? And my pain's going away. The veil is lifted. I'm feeling healthy all of a sudden.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Sir, would you like to try the double cheeseburger baconator? Oh, my God. I'm getting emotional. Sir, it sounds like you might have fainted in a parking lot. You were disoriented, and you wandered into a Wendy's, drive-thru without a car. Did you walk right up to the drive-thru sign? You know, everybody's got a different name for heaven. I think everybody has a different vision of heaven. No, I don't think this was heaven, sir, Mr. Eckers.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Wait a minute. What are you saying here? Well, sir, it sounds like you had an accident in a part. You might have fainted. or fallen, and when you got up out of the days, you were drawn to the light of the drive-thru window, or the sign where you order. Well, that sounds, you know, I didn't come on your show to be challenged, Mr. Williams. I've touched the face of heaven, and you're accusing me of going for fast food. Well, sir, it's in your story. You just said, welcome to Wendy's.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Would you like a double cheeseburger? Would you like fries with that? You know, if you're going to sit here and blasphemy God, while I was on death's doorstep, I'm not going to stick around for that. That is sacrilege. Sir, I'm not trying to impugn your religion or challenge you,
Starting point is 00:27:54 but I think maybe your wires are crossed a bit. I don't know that you were at the gates of heaven. I think you wandered up to a drive-thru and people were in cars honking at you because you were on foot. You can't walk through a drive-thru. Oh, I see. So now you're telling me that I belong in hell.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I didn't say you belong in hell, so I'm just challenged. I don't think you were at heaven. I think you walked into up to a Wendy's drive. through sign and you were talking to a speaker. I don't think God talks through speakers. Maybe you didn't hear me, Mr. Williams.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I'll welcome to one to drive-thor. Would you like a double-teat-a-burger bacon order? You're making my point, sir. Oh, and are you telling me God but say something like this? Would you like fries with that? Regular fries or
Starting point is 00:28:48 curly fries? Hello? Curly fries or sir you know what i with all due respect i think maybe there's been a miscommunication here and i i i think maybe you're you're a saint worshippers what i think i'm not a saint worshipper sir i just you your story isn't adding up and at first we thought you were going into the light but clearly you wandered into a was it dark that night well yes it was 11 o'clock at night For God's sakes.
Starting point is 00:29:22 It was dark, and I saw the light. You saw a Wendy's drive-thru, and you walked right up to the speaker, and it wasn't God. It was some pimply-faced kid with a microphone asking you if you wanted a cheese, burger, and fries. You listen here.
Starting point is 00:29:40 You listen here, you atheist asshole. I'm not going to stay on the line after I've had a face-to-face one-on-one with the Savior Lord God himself. And you're going to tell me I showed up for a fast food in the middle of the night. Sir, I hate to say it. Go straight to hell in a chicken basket, you son of a whore. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:30:09 What is going on here? Roger, where did you get this guy? What the shit? Here I am thinking this... Holy God! What the hell was that? This guy just took almost half an hour to tell us he went to a drive, walked into a drive-thru.
Starting point is 00:30:32 What the, Roger, you know, do you think you could screen our callers a little bit better, man? Holy God, folks, I got to apologize. I was drawn into this guy. I really thought this guy was one of these guys. And here we go. Wendy's Drive to, he was the red and white light. Do you want curly fries? Do you want fries with that?
Starting point is 00:31:02 He said, that's what God says. What a joke. You know, Roger, let's just, let's get it together, man. I'm sure half of our listeners now are pissed off and they probably stopped listening. The new Bimo, V.I. Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks, more points, more flights, more of all the things you want in a travel rewards card, and then some. Get your ticket to more with the new BMO ViPorter MasterCard and get up to $2,400 in value in your first 13 months. Terms and conditions apply.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Visit BMO.com slash ViPorter to learn more. For those of you that's still with us, I apologize for this miscommunication. What a Daniel Eckers. Can we just move on, man? Let's take a phone call or something, okay? Please, let's just take a pavement pounder phone call. Let's totally switch gears. Hello?
Starting point is 00:32:10 Hello? Hey, Rocket, man. It's Chuck, your old bass fishing buddy from the hill. of the Ozarks. Enjoy your podcast, as always. Just listen to your podcast on the Florida School shooting and gun control. I thought I'd just pitch in on that being from the Ozarks. I'm a gun owner.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Got several handguns in an AR-15, but at the same time, I'm also a public school teacher. This is my 31st year of teaching in the public school. I thought I might have a valid opinion on this. Man, you hit the nail on the head, brother. What we've got to do is protect our schools. It's not that hard of a solution. The problem is the government doesn't want to spend any money on our public schools to protect our most important asset, our kids.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Think about it. You can't go to the post office or a government building without going through a metal detector and they have bodyguards and everything so they're protected but they don't want to protect our kids and our teachers makes me mad
Starting point is 00:33:25 you came up with a good solution though with the protected doors and I just wanted to throw my opinion in on that that's what we need to do we need to have metal detectors we need to have bulletproof glass at the entries to the schools
Starting point is 00:33:43 and we need to have more school resource officers. So anyway, man, keep up to good work. What's the biggest small mouth pass you've caught lately? Hey, as always, enjoy listening. Chicken Chalman, Betty. Wow, chicken chalman chock right there. It's so nice to hear from somebody who's actually got some knowledge on the situation. I love it that Chuck's a teacher
Starting point is 00:34:15 and he's got a valid perspective of the school shootings. You know, first of all, just listening to the phone call, the message, isn't it scary that there's even a conversation happening? Well, we're talking about children, schools, bulletproof glass, bulletproof doors, security guards. I mean, isn't it a... a very bizarre and strange world, dangerous, violent world we live in when we're in a time where this is even a thing?
Starting point is 00:34:53 I mean, at what point in your life did you ever think you'd be associating schools with children with bulletproof glass and armed guards and death and destruction and shooting and killing and guns and rifles and, oh, my God, that's the first thing. that's like a bucket of water in the face. You know, it's just like, whoa, really? Like, that's almost like what's next? Like, you've ever been to a hospital and you've seen that area
Starting point is 00:35:22 where they put all the newborn babies? Right? It's like that big area and the husbands and the wives they stand outside, they look through the window. There's our new kid. There's our new kid. Like, imagine that scenario
Starting point is 00:35:36 where there's armed cops and guards and the glass was bulletproof because eventually things got so violent in society that that that that's the next phase we got to protect there's been some some baby incubator holding areas shot up like that's kind of how startling it is that that that our schools full of children are experiencing this but another thing is you know I did talk about the the school thing and I didn't so much talk about gun control because I've learned that people just go ape shit if you talk about gun control
Starting point is 00:36:13 I get some nasty phone calls and some nasty emails from people who just go off. So I don't talk about gun control. What I talked about in my podcast where I talked about all these school shootings, I talked about solutions. What could we do to protect the children? What can we do to prevent these shootings or at least slow them down or at least limit the damage? And, you know, I got some blowback from some listeners.
Starting point is 00:36:43 just for mentioning like preventive measures and thinking of ways that we can be creative and protective there were some angry people that oh well you know you know the guns and the thing and you oh you can't do this and you're crazy what's wrong with you and i was like wait what so it's a very touchy thing and i'm i'm not telling anyone they can't have a just for the record i'm not telling anyone they can't have a gun or can't have a gun or guns are good or guns are are bad. I'm not getting into that, man. I'm just saying if there's a problem at the schools and people are getting shot, then how can we do something to stop the shootings or protect when the shootings
Starting point is 00:37:26 happen or whatever? But it was nice to hear from this teacher, this wonderful teacher Chuck, that he as a teacher in the schools thinks that it would be prudent to find ways to prevent it, to put in bulletproof glass and the types of doors they put on cockpits in airplanes so that, you know, it'd be hard, if not impossible for a shooter to penetrate a classroom and start shooting. So it was neat to hear that he thinks that's a good idea. And, you know, it's like something's got to be done.
Starting point is 00:38:12 he makes a great point where he says it's like, well, why is it that the politicians and the libraries and the, you know, the airports and all these other public places are crawling with people with guns and bulletproof glass, but we don't have it with our kids. And I think this might be the answer. It's what I said at the beginning. I don't think we ever, ever thought or expected that schools would become the battlegrounds and the death places that they've become. And so I think society's scrambling and going, oh, crap. It's almost like I said, with the baby holding area at the hospital, it's like you would never expect that to be a dangerous place. And then if all of a sudden it was, you'd be like, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:39:09 It's almost like it doesn't compute. And so everyone's frazzled. Well, you know what? The days of being frazzled are over. It's like it's not an anomaly. These aren't isolated incidents. These aren't random. These are becoming more and more frequent.
Starting point is 00:39:26 And they become, unfortunately, a part of life. So it's like you almost have to redesign. It's like, remember cars, cars in the 60s? A lot of the early automobiles didn't have seatbelts. They didn't have airbags. They didn't have equipment in it like bumpers that could shock absorb and they didn't have sensors that could detect an oncoming traffic or if you're getting too close.
Starting point is 00:39:51 They didn't have rear-view cameras. But what did we do to the automobile? We knew people were dying. So guess what? Not only did they put in seatbelts, well, people were ignoring them. They made it the law. You had to put it on. and then they put in airbags which started saving lives
Starting point is 00:40:09 and then they started putting in motion sensors and now we're getting to the point where cars are going to be autonomous where they drive themselves to take out the human error. Is that bad? No, that's saving lives. So why can't we effectively take the human error out of schools? Why can't we redesign, reconfigure schools so that we limit the amount of death and destruction.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Now, let's look at the car again. Even though we've done all this stuff with cars, people still die, people still get killed in car accidents, but it's way less. And if we become autonomous with cars where there's no more human drivers, it's probably going to get almost down to zero. So if we can fix that problem,
Starting point is 00:41:00 if we can fix getting screened at the airport, then surely without this becoming a gun issue or a Second Amendment issue, and no one's talking about taking away your weapons. It's about acknowledging that there's weapons and that bad people get their hands on the weapons, and so let's reinforce our schools and protect our children for when these freaks
Starting point is 00:41:26 do decide to assault the schools and kill the innocent children. So I don't want anyone writing me or calling me and going, Ah, if you hate the Second Amendment, you don't like go back where you came from, you don't like guns? What's the matter with you, boy? It's got nothing to do with that. I like children.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I like human life. I like people living. I like children being able to go to school and coming home and seeing their mom and dad. How about that? It's not a gun issue. It's a safety and protection issue from the freaks. that don't know how to use a gum properly. They want to kill.
Starting point is 00:42:05 So there you go. Chuck, good to hear your point of view, man. That was really cool. I really liked hearing it coming from a teacher. And not that I'm looking to score points or win aside, because there's probably people listening to what I just said going, no, wrong, stupid. So I'm not trying to win. I'm just throwing ideas out there,
Starting point is 00:42:25 but it was nice to hear someone who's actually in the field, in the schools. thinking that some of what I said was practical and a good idea. So very cool. Chuck, thank you. As far as your fishing question, I haven't caught a smallmouth bass for a while, probably about three, four years ago.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And I would say it was probably a pound, three quarters of a pound, not huge. If you want the big bass, you've got to go for the largemouth bass. And interestingly enough, I'm a fisherman, and I've caught tons and tons. I've got thousands of fish in my life, okay? Thousands. And one of the species I've never hooked into is a largemouth bass.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I've always been in smallmouth bass lakes and waters. And those smallmouth bass fight like a tornado, man. They're one of the most aggressive, friskiest fish. Like even a small, smallmouth bass on your line, it feels like you got something much bigger. Those popas can preach And so I can only imagine the battle A largemouth bass could give
Starting point is 00:43:36 So this summer I'm heading up to a lake that I know Up in Canada, Chuck That has great smallmouth bass fishing And I'm going to be hooking into some up there And don't worry folks, I'm a catch and release guy I catch them, I take them off gingerly, tenderly I try not to let the hook do any damage and I set them back into the water, happy and free,
Starting point is 00:44:02 and hopefully none the worse for wear. Although I can't say I'd like to have a pointy hook go through my cheek for a few minutes and then have it taken out. But better that than just dying and being killed, right? Maybe we should put bulletproof glass around bass. Keep them from getting caught. Let's protect everything.
Starting point is 00:44:28 But anyways, Chuck, great phone call, buddy. Thank you for your perspective from the inside. And, you know, regardless of whatever I have to say or what Chuck has to say, let's all just hope regardless of where you stand that whatever your opinion is, we find a way to end this, to whatever the solution may be. I don't know if it's let's give the kids guns. Let's put cannons on the roof. Let's have Kim Jong-un stand in front of it.
Starting point is 00:44:58 the door. I don't know what it is, but let's hope we find the solution because none of us, no matter what our point of view, is wants to see another school shooting and innocent children die. It's so horrible. It's something we didn't have to think about. When I was born into this world, that stuff didn't occur. For the first 20 years of my life, that was non-existent, and now it's here. And that's why I'm saying, oh, what's next? The baby incubation room? Everyone's like, no, who would go in and shoot up babies? That's not, well, guess what? I didn't ever thought someone would shoot up schools either.
Starting point is 00:45:36 So we got to find ways to counteract this stuff, man. Hello, Harland. Hey, so I was listening to your podcast. And of course, you know, people are trying to come up with solutions, answers, whatnot about these shootings, the schools and stuff. And the first thing that comes to mind of me, I don't know, maybe it's silly, but why don't we just put two Marines at all the schools? Just like two Marines. Like our Army is huge, you know, our military is huge.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I mean, they're more equipped than cops in these kind of situations. They're ready for war. Why don't we just put two Marines? I mean, let's just, you know, get a couple thousand from the military. I don't see that as a big deal. We got Marines, we got the Army, we got Navy. Let's just get a couple thousand to make our schools safe. All right, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:37 It seems right. Two Marines? All right. Chicken chow main. Yeah, you know, hey, two Marines is better than no Marines. I mean, he makes a good point. You got two guys that are trained for battle. They're probably in an excellent shot with their,
Starting point is 00:46:54 weapons they've been programmed to fight they've been programmed to defend and uh you know not a bad idea we we spend the money on on all our military personnel we train them we we house them we feed them we give them a salary they're they're great at what they do they're experts and uh you know well rather than just to have them uh waiting around for uh for a war to start maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to put some Marines up there and help protect. So anyways, that's all part of the dialogue, and we'll leave it there. Let's move on to something a little more silly, shall we? But I do appreciate all the input and cool conversation.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Thank you. All right, let's move on to some celebrity news. Do you like celebrity news, boys and girls? Well, here's a couple of celebrity stories that kind of impact my life a little bit, so I'll share them with you. There's a good one and there's a bad one, a happy and a sad one, I should say. And let me start with the sad one, which it does make me sad. So I just learned that Vern Troier, mini-meat from the Austin Powers movies, Remember Mini Me?
Starting point is 00:48:24 And the Austin Powers, Vern was born with dwarfism, and he was a really tiny, tiny guy. And I know firsthand, because Vern worked on a movie with me long before he did Austin Powers, before he became super famous. I did a movie back in the early to mid-90s called Rocket Man, which was a movie that I starred in. I was the lead, and it was just a super-famous.
Starting point is 00:48:51 fun, amazing movie and the storyline is about the first manned mission to Mars and I'm one of the astronauts and I'm the first guy to step on Mars and in our space crew to Mars there was a chimpanzee because you know in the early space program they they sent chimps into space so we had a chimp on board and this was a real chimp it was trained it was an amazing Chimp and it had a storyline in the movie but then we went out to Moab, Utah, which is
Starting point is 00:49:25 a beautiful natural park where the stones and the rock formations look like Mars and so we filmed all the exterior Mars shots in Moab because there's no vegetation, it's just all rocks
Starting point is 00:49:41 and so it looks like Mars. If you watch the movie Rocket Man, all the shots where we're on the surface of Mars. It's not a sound stage. It's actually out in nature in Moab. And so we had some shots where we're walking around on Mars and there's a dust storm and they had a bunch of wind machines and they blew sand up. And we had to put the chimp in a space suit with a helmet and a glass dome helmet like most astronauts have. And of course, this was a little too much for a real live chimp. It was too confining. It was too claustrophobic. It was outside
Starting point is 00:50:21 of a chimp's normal kind of state of being to have a helmet on its head. You can only imagine, right? So this is where it gets a little weird. So instead of having the chimp walk around on the surface of Moab slash Mars, they hired Vern Troyer, Mini Me, to put on a chimp suit and get in the chimp space suit. So if you watch Rocket Man again and you see the scenes where I'm walking around holding hands with a chimp on Mars, I'm walking around holding hands with mini-me.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Vern Troier. And I can't tell you what a nice guy he was. He was so sweet and nice and had a great sense of humor. And he just had a caring, loving heart. And, you know, I met him at a point where it was before he kind of. kind of had fame and fortune smack them in the face.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And so there's a real innocence and a sweetness to Vern. And I stayed in touch with them for a little bit. I remember we went to Vegas once and we hung out and we stayed in touch. And we had so much fun together on the movie, playing cards, hanging out in each other's trailers. You know, we really connected and had a cool little friendship. And what happens with movies a lot when the movie kind of gets old, A lot of times the friendships kind of grow old, but the memory and the friendship stays in your heart, right?
Starting point is 00:51:51 And so Vern was always there. And then sadly later in life, and this plays into how Vern died, I guess one of the things that might have contributed to it is Vern's began to struggle with alcohol. And he was getting treatment for alcohol, and it seemed like this was going on and off for a while. and then VH1 did a show back, I can't remember, it was in the early 2000s, but it was a show where they'd put a bunch of kind of bee-less celebrities or celebrities that were kind of fizzled out into a house together, and they'd kind of pit them against each other. And it was kind of tragic, but it was also fascinating at the same time.
Starting point is 00:52:37 It was like watching a human train wreck. and unfortunately on one season of the show and I wish I could remember the name but Vern Troier was one of the celebrities that moved into the celebrity house and I was kind of excited I was like oh there's my buddy Troy oh my God and then I started watching the show
Starting point is 00:52:58 because I found it fascinating and the Vern I saw on that show wasn't the burn that I knew when I did Rocket Man and I felt really bad because there were scenes of Vern getting really drunk. In fact, getting so inebriated, he could, he was barely coherent, and he was falling out a bed, and he was passing out, and he was urinating on the wall, and it was just ugly. And then it showed him, scenes of him lusting after women and being kind of pervy and creepy.
Starting point is 00:53:32 And then it showed him kind of being, having an attitude, and kind of snapping at people and being short with people and kind of the stuff people wear when they when they kind of feel they're too important and i'm not i'm not uh i i don't want to say anything bad about berlin like i'm not i'm not like uh being mean about the guy but i'm just telling you the reality and of anything i'm defending him because you know i saw a verne that i didn't recognize on that show and i just want to say for the record you know most of you who saw him on that show might have the same impression. He's a bit of a nasty guy the way he was behaving.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And I just want to set the record straight that that might have been all the alcohol and that might have been the pressures of fame and some of the attitude that comes with fame and fortune and celebrity. And underneath all that, whatever what was going on in Vern's life that was maybe affecting him, I'm here to say that that's not who Vern was. you know he was a sweet wonderful warm-hearted uh generous caring guy and uh i'm i'm gonna miss them and i'm sad he passed away and you know he that when they're rolling the camera when he's on that show it must have been at a point in his life where things were just you know just a little
Starting point is 00:54:59 crazy for the guy you know when you become an instant celebrity everybody wants you people are throwing money at you people want to buy you drinks people want you to do drugs women who wouldn't look at you before suddenly want to do stuff with you and all this stuff and it can really affect your head and i think you know based on all my years in hollywood that's what i was seeing when i saw you know verne at kind of that low point there and so i want i want people who saw that show to know that wasn't the true verne okay he was a great wonderful guy and uh he brought a lot of laughter a lot of joy to people whether he he was mini-me or whether he was he was one of the elves and one of the Arnold Schwarzenegger
Starting point is 00:55:43 uh Christmas movies that he did um or whether he was dressed up and disguised as a space monkey in rocket man uh so thoughts and prayers to uh verne troier thank you for what you brought to rocket man thank you for the laughter and the joy you brought into my life and to so many others and Vern Troier, thank you for being here on the planet with us. And little buddy, rest in peace. Okay. And now on to some more brighter news. Now, this is really, oh, this lit me up. 2018. This was not only a 2018 highlight. This was a career highlight. So, of course, I've met so many celebrities. I've worked with so many famous actors and people and I mean I've just I've met them all and there's some great ones there's some nice ones there's some douche ones there's some in-between ones and you know sometimes
Starting point is 00:56:49 I'm like a little starstruck and other times I'm like yeah whatever you know but um sometimes you're just kind of uh over the moon about the actual actor and sometimes you're over the moon about the role that the actor play. So check this out. I'm going to party the other night. It was a Prince-themed party. My friend Christopher Titus, who's a great comedian, was hosting it
Starting point is 00:57:15 with his wife. It's a beautiful wife. And it was all Prince theme, all Prince music and Prince videos and everything playing. And I'm just mingling. I'm talking to Chris. I'm talking to some others. It's one of those things where I had to do a show that night
Starting point is 00:57:31 at some stand-up show. So it was one those parties where I dropped by for an hour, an hour and a half. I wasn't making a night out of it. So I was there by myself and I was chit-chatting and this guy walks up to me with red hair and he's like, hey man, how you doing? I remember I saw you once on the Disney lot and I said, hey, I think you're funny and you said, thank you and wave to me and you know, you were really cool. And and I said, oh, yeah, yeah, cool. Thanks, man. And I'm talking to this guy. And the more I'm talking to him, it's starting to dawn on me that somehow I recognize him. And he has a distinct look. He's got a little narrow, like, slitty eyes.
Starting point is 00:58:11 He's got freckles and red hair. And I'm like, wait a minute, I know this guy. And he had a hat on and he had glasses. So I was being blocked a little bit. And then as I kept going, we were in the middle of a conversation about who knows what. It might have been about Canada because I found out he was from Canada. He grew up in the same city. I did. So we were talking about that. We were bonding. I was enjoying my conversation with the guy. And then I stopped him in mid-sentence. And I go, dude, are you Scott Farkas? And he just went, yeah, I am. And I was like, what? I just lit up like a supernova. Now, if you don't know who Scott Farkas is, let me play a clip from a little movie, A Christmas Story, which is one of
Starting point is 00:58:56 my favorite movies. And Scott Farkas is the neighborhood bully. who bullies all the little kids in Christmas story and he's just, this guy was cast so perfectly because he shows up in the Christmas story movie. Everyone in the neighborhood's a cute little kid and then this tall, skinny kid who's a few years older is like sneaking around behind fences and he's got these little narrow slits for eyes,
Starting point is 00:59:22 red hair freckles, steel braces on his teeth, an old beat-up leather jacket, and a coon skin hat with a tail on it. And if you've ever seen her, Christmas store, you can't, you can't not remember Scott Farkas. So here's a little clip to refresh your memory. Scott Farkis. Scott Farkis, what a rotten name. We were trapped. There he stood between us and the alley. Scut Farkas staring out at us with his yellow eyes. He had yellow eyes, so help me,
Starting point is 00:59:56 God, yellow eyes. Oh, my God, that laugh. Do you remember that guy? Scott Farkas. Now, that's what I called him, Scott Farkas. And he corrected him. He goes, you know, his name's not actually Scott Frakis or something like that. It sounds like Scott Farkas when you watch the movie,
Starting point is 01:00:25 but it's Scott Frakis or Frucus or something. And I go, what that? Hell, he goes, yeah, they're like, they're like Gaelic or German words or something. There's some kind of an ancient language word that Scott means like, like, creamy diarrhea. And Furcus means like asshole or something. Like he, he told me it was, it was like some, some deeper Gaelic meaning that it was a really like horrible, horrible name. And it made sense because he's such a creepy guy in the movie. And then he told me, you know, in the movie, there's also a little sidekick.
Starting point is 01:01:05 It's like he's the big tall bully, and then he has a little, a smaller bully. And he says, originally the smaller bully was supposed to be the one with all the lines. And he was just supposed to be kind of the sidekick in the background. But once they saw him on camera and saw how big he was and how he looked, they gave all the lines from the small kid to Scott Farkas. And it's just one of those casting notes, go, well, thank God they did because, you know, he's just one of those guys, man, that you just look at him and he's like, yep, that's the epitome of the neighborhood bully.
Starting point is 01:01:42 That's kind of how you see them in your nightmares with little slits for eyes and silver braces on their teeth and that horrible laugh. Oh, my God, that nightmarish laugh. Oh, my God, just so good. So here we go. Now I'm not just shooting the breeze. with some random stranger at a prince party on a Saturday night. No, sir, right now I'm partying at a prince party with Scott Farkas, man. And I was just so excited because, you know, there's certain movies and certain moments of movies that are so endearing and so amazing to me
Starting point is 01:02:23 that, you know, meeting this guy was just more of a thrill than meeting like, you know, some big how do you do celebrity because uh you know that his his role is just kind of like burned into my memory banks and it's got a uh a a very uh nostalgic spot in my heart and it's just such unique character the way he looks and the way he sounded and oh my god so so i was just on cloud nine probably one of my best celebrity sightings and and he was so excited to meet me he's like let's take some selfies and he got my number and he texted me and he was being a buddy and then I rarely take selfies but I said dude I got to get some selfies and so I put some I took some selfies and put them up on my uh Twitter page and oh my God I'm still super excited so so great
Starting point is 01:03:17 to meet Scott Farkas and uh just dreams do come true right oh wonderful so let's end the show right there on that super high note. Oh, my God, I love it. So there you go. Scott Farkas, and again, R.I.P. to Vern, Troyer, a little celebrity wrap up here at the end of the podcast. Let's get into something else. Let's see. What the heck can we get into? Oh, yes. Where will I be doing stand-up comedy, you ask? Well, guess what, ladies and gentlemen. I will be on May 17, 18, and 19 at Stand Up Live in Phoenix, Arizona.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Oh, my God, great club right down there. I think it's right down in Scottsdale, maybe, but don't quote me on that, but it's right downtown Phoenix, right near the basketball arena. And it's such a good, cool club, and I love Arizona, one of my favorite places. So please come on out to Stand Up Live, May 17, 18, 19, and then, the following month in mid-June, yours truly will be in Winnipeg, Winnipeg, Alberta, Canada, or sorry, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. Not Alberta, that's where Calgary is. Manitoba, and that's June 14, 15, 16 at a place called Rumors Comedy Club.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And then in July, I'll be out in Cleveland, Ohio. Oh, my God, Cleveland, Ohio at hilarities. And then I'm going to be in Calgary in the middle of September. with Tom Green, me and Tom Green, two Canadian boys. I mean, so check my website for all these important comedy dates, harlomwilliams.com. You can book your tickets online players. And it'll be a blast, man.
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Starting point is 01:06:21 boom you've got the app you can listen to us wherever you may be uh and uh there you go so very cool thank you so much for being here thank you for the serious calls thank you for the silly calls and uh let's just uh everybody keep on laughing and enjoying life for as long as we can because we're not here for a long time but let's try to be here for a good time rip verne Troyer, my friend. Miss you, buddy. Hope you're making the angels laugh. And until next time, chicken, chameen, baby. He had yellow eyes. So help me, God, yellow eyes. Thank you.

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