The Harland Highway - JUSTIN WILLMAN is the MAGIC MAN, and we're doing tricks, eating mushrooms, and becoming best budz!

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

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Penn and Teller used to do a bullet catch trick. Explain. That was pretty... You know who else did that JFK? Yeah. He only did it once. He did it once. And it was a magic bullet, they say.

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Okay If you don't have them Yeah right and it sounds nice It's like a massage for the ears Oh that's good You likey, likey, likey? I likey, likey, like twice. Twice.

Uh-huh. One for each year. Can I, I don't want to project. Is it possible? And guy, I've never done this before. Do you likey, likey, likey? That's three. I try likey.

Just try. I try. That's like a four? No, no, T-R-I. Yes, I likey, likey, likey. Wowy, wowy, wowy. Whoa. Wow. Wow. Three Wowwis, three likeies. Three Wauys and likies. I feel like we're in like a, like a kindergarten right now.

Wowies and likies. Do you need to do a pooey or a pee? They're way more advanced than us right now. Oh, you have a son? I have a son. Is he real or is he magic? He's real. He's real, not a hologram. How old? He's six. Today was his last day of school. Really? So that's it? He's not doing anything else for the rest of his life? He's retired. He's retired. Imagine just, Dad, I'm done. I'm done. I'm six.

I did kindergarten, grades one and two. Up yours. Yeah, I'm out of here. Has he ever swore at you, your kid? He's not sworn, per se, but he has called me a cheapskate in a way that you would cuss at somebody. So he doesn't know what it means, but he just heard that that's like an insult. That almost hurts more than if he called you an F-bomb or a mofo. Yeah.

Like for a junior to say, Dad, you're a cheapskate, dude, I'm feeling that. It's harsh. It hurts. You're not, are you? And it had nothing to do with money at the time. I think I was just rushing him. I was like, come on, pee and brush. Pee and brush.

You're being a darn cheap skate, dad. I was like, that's not. Yeah. What are they teaching you? Have you thought about getting rid of this kid? Are you? I mean, just. You have some rooms here.

I'd say let him wander the streets. He's already schooled. Apparently, he's educated. He thinks he is. Let him walk. We're reading box card children right now. You know, this book. Yeah.

You know, it's just about four kids who are like, you know, homeless who live in a train car. And I think he is, you know, fantasizing about that lifestyle a little bit. Can I tell you a quick, funny story? Yeah. When I was a kid, hey, everybody, who wants to have better sex? No? Yes. Yes.

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and 100% free shipping. Code Harland. Have fun. Don't throw your back out. There was a movie called The Railway Children. And it was about a bunch of like hillbillies in West Virginia, dirt poor. They used to have to, the kids had to go and get buckets. a coal off the railroad tracks and sell it. They were just these squallered white kids that lived in the mountains. And the whole movie was about their trials and tribulations and the family

and it was pulled at your heartstrings. And one of them died, got hit by a train. And at the very end of the movie, it was a packed theater, a matinee. And at the very end of the theater, like three of the hillbilly kids are standing at the end of the track. And I guess the oldest a daughter's name was Mary Call. And so one of the kids goes, and even to this day, every time I hear that train whistle, I can hear the wind

whisper her name. Mary Call. And then some jackass from the back of the theater just went, Mary Call! Died laughing. Wow. Wow. This was as a child.

I mean, this movie, that's heavy. Boxcar children, Railway kids. The railway children. Somebody should get sued for IP rights. Yeah. Wow. Merry call.

Uh, merry call. And speaking of call, I called you and you came to do the Holland Highway podcast. Uh, Justin Williamson is here, gang. And, uh, buddy, what a treat. Thank you for coming to the Hall of Highway podcast. So happy to be here. Yeah. And I think everyone will recognize you immediately.

You're one of the modern day kind of masters of magic working out in the world these days. I try. I try. You don't have to try. You're doing it. Thank you. I was telling you, I've watched every episode of your show on Netflix. And it just, I'm bedazzled. Everyone's bedazzled. And should we start? I don't want to put any pressure on it. But do we start with a trick or no? We could. Listen, I will. I will say, because I'm sure I have to, at least you'll be annoyed if I tell you this at the end. Yeah.

That it's Justin Wilman, but what's so funny. What did I say? Williamson. But you're Harlan Williams. Williams. And you know what I always get is Justin Williams, but I knew you wouldn't screw that up because that, you know, that's your name. Well, you know what the real reality is?

I didn't have my glasses on and it was blurry. That was the first trick. What I did is I skewed your vision a little bit. You made me do that. I made you do that. Justin Wilman. Yeah, Wilman. It doesn't roll off the two.

tongue. Wilman. Mm-hmm. It's either, it doesn't sound good towards the end of your life. Mm-hmm. Or it also feels a bit pushy. Like, because you're putting your will. Excuse me, Wilman.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It does. It's a bit. So Justin Wilman, ladies and gentlemen. Hold on. Justin Wilman, ladies and gentlemen.

Here on the Harlem. And by the way, if you watch this show, I get 90% of everyone's name wrong, including my own. Are you glad I pointed it out? Yes, I am. Okay. I deserve it. I'm so guilty of it.

No, I... I'm very bad with names and numbers. I would normally be annoyed if someone didn't say something. No, I appreciate it. Full honesty here. Yeah, okay, good. Well, I mean... I'm a magician, so I'll point out anything you want.

I'll try my best. Buddy, you are an amazing magician. By the way, if you and Copperfield... Yeah. Met up in a dark alley behind a Dairy Queen on a Thursday night in, let's say, Bakersfield. Love it. Who wins that bitch slap? Who wins that street fight?

Are we meeting up to fight or make out? Fight. No. Well, shirts are off, and you would think it would be makeout or fight, but in this situation, fight. Who wins? I would say... You are the cops. I would say, I think I could injure him right now, you know?

I could injure him. Agreed. He wouldn't show up alone. He's too rich for that. Yeah, he'd have some thugs around the corner. Yeah, or supermodels. He liked the hot ladies. Yeah, yeah.

Speaking of witch, can we just cut to it? Yeah. The first time you did magic, was it just to score beef? Like, was it, oh, I love magic, or did Daddy want to score some fresh beef? I would say I started magic for the first. first time, it was probably because I was not good at anything else, and I discovered this magic thing. And it was the, finally, the, the only thing I was above, I was above mediocre at. Yeah. Yeah. But then, I would say, the next day, you realize, oh, wow, people like this.

Wow. Especially girls, who I don't normally know what to say anything to. Now, you know, these tricks came with patter. I know what to say. so how long how deep into the magic game till daddy scored a little beef listen I would say I started magic when I was really young how old you know when I was so young that beef was beef that's how young I was

13 13 okay but that's when a boy starts thinking about the beef tang was tang was tang was tang was tang back remember those innocent days but it wasn't long I think, I mean, I'm sure every girlfriend I've had wouldn't have been my girlfriend if it wasn't for maybe the glimmer of confidence they saw that came out when I was doing magic. I'm sure it's the same with comedy, right? I'm interviewing you.

That's true. Okay. And how dare you turn it around with some kind of magic talk? Yeah, with that gotcha. Gotcha question. That was magic talk right there, folks. the kid was deep into the sizzling beef tried to turn it around on me

but daddy didn't blink now what was the first scenario where it worked where you you like you purposely pulled the magic to get a hot date I would say

do you remember I would say it probably wasn't until college when you know you've got you're at a loud party you've got a matter of seconds you don't know sign language you want to communicate that you are sexy and cool

and logical that and some tricks don't require any you know you can do a trick you don't need to hear me so I would say freshman year of college there were attempts at beef do you remember the first one where it actually worked

does she hear Harland is that where this is going Carol come Come on in. Come on in. It was Carol. Carol. Do you remember it, though? Carol Call.

I can hear it whisper when the train comes by. Carol call. I don't remember precisely. I just know that, you know, the tricks during college were, it was not just my day job. It was my night job. Yeah, yeah. Gotcha. Do we start with something, or is that a full?

faux pod to say to a magician, hey, let's hear a trick. Let's hear a trick. Let's hear a trick. Let's hear a trick. Do you want to do a trick? Have you ever done a trick? I have one I was going to show you after we do. Well, I'll do whatever you want because you're, I want you to take the lead on this. You do. You have one. But I have one that I might call the best trick ever done that I think would even blow your mind. But I want to start with your trekkest because mine's Is it involved Burger King? No. Okay.

Oh, the beef. We could try. Yeah, here. Oh, my God, my shirt's been undone this whole time. I'm so sorry. I thought that was the look. It's a good look. Okay.

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I fanned it out. And I thought what card would Harlan say minutes from now. I love this. And I turned it around in the deck. This is all while driving. Okay. I popped the deck back in the box. Wouldn't it be something, Arland? I love it. So excited. Do you have a favorite card? I do. Well, forget it. I want your least favorite card. Okay. A card you would never say is your favorite card, a card that you hold a grudge against. Okay. What is it? Should I say it out loud? The Six of Hearts. Six of Hearts. Yeah. Okay. We're opening up the pack here. I'm playing straight ahead. One card turned around in the pack of the 52. The Six of Hearts.

And I know why I did that, because you told me your son was six. Oh. And you planted the seed. It's all a psychological roots. You don't have a son. Your kid didn't go to school. I had a son just for this. I tied it out. Is that what you did? Did you plant that seed, the six? It worked. I don't know because my initial card... It's the only number that's been said. Was the eight of spades.

But then you said, forget about it. Yeah, that's your favorite card. That's the one I wanted. Obviously. But you cleverly, when we first sat down, and I didn't goad you into it, you just voluntarily said, I have a...

And you said it louder. I said it with heart. Yeah, you said, I have a six. Your old son. And I was like, I thought maybe you were choking on a sea scallop or so, but why did you accentuate the six? I just, I just love this age, you know? The six is, it's a wonderful age.

What did you just do there? I thought I heard something. What did you just wait? What the? Dude, I don't even want to wink right now. What do you? No, I need eye drops. Stop.

Six. It's in. It's in. Dude, we did it. Was that part of it? Or am I just, am I just reaching my own magic copperfield conclusions here? Am I dug henning myself into a corner? The, ah.

Am I shin-linning myself up against some drywall here? Oh, don't stop. Keep going with it. Am I who deaning myself into Duleepa's underpants right now? Oh, wow. I mean, I'm just asking Firefox. Listen, there's psychology there. There's psychology there.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Now, that's why I didn't want you to go for what you probably already would think of as your go-to favorite card. Got to mix it up a little bit. Okay, what if, what if I trumped what you just did? Would you give me the accolades I deserve if I did a trick that was so mystifying to you? Even you went, there's no way he could have done that. I would, I would love to see it.

Would I get my props? You'd get your props. You would have trumped me. I'll give you my, I've got some Pelican cases in the car. I will give you my props. First of all, how did I get your pack of cards? Oh, snap. Wow.

Now, check it out. That's in the wrapper right here. These are in the wrapper. Check it out. Not been opened. Wow. Victoria, are these Canadian? No, they're from Victoria's Secret.

They came with my thong. Nice. It's nice. What's the choker look like? Okay. Oh, the choker. Do you want me to unsealed? Before you do, acknowledge to the crowd that they're perfectly sealed.

They're perfectly sealed. These are, they are wrapped in cellophane. There are no incisions. And like you, you made me pick the card before you even opened the box. Yeah. So pick a card, one you really love. Okay. You got it?

Yeah. Throw it away. Okay, gone. Pick a new one. Okay. Say it out loud. Eight of diamonds. Open the deck.

I'm so excited right now. You're about to have your mind-blowing, Captain Crunch, or whatever they call you down at the Magic Club. Is there a Magic Club? Yeah, there's a Magic Club. Okay, you don't have to snap them, hey, God. I'm just trying to be magic friendly. You know? Do you want bubble music?

Yeah, give me some bubbling. There we go. Look at that. All right. The deck is open. Do you want me to pop the seal? Yeah, and just say your card again. Eight of diamonds.

So you're just so we're curly. Eight of diamonds. Yeah. Okay. Pop the seal. Said the priest to seal of his first communion. Okay. Wow, these are really hard to open.

These are very sanitary here. Holy shit. Do you have a letter opener? Nosey. Okay. I'm sorry about what I'm doing to the box. Okay. Seal is popped.

Okay. There's a deck of cards inside. Take the cards out. Have I ever touched those cards? You've not even touched them. Okay. I want you to shuffle them with the Joker. Take out the Joker and the Jacks.

proves to you that that what about the advertisement yeah take those out that proves to you that that's a fresh deck all right split it and shuffle it to the best of your ability and your card again for the audience eight of diamonds okay now I've not touched these cards never touched cut the deck into three piles doesn't even have to be even boom okay okay Okay, pick a pile. This pile. Get rid of the other two.

Getting rid of them. Cut that one into three piles. Pick one. This one. Get rid of the other two. Okay. Cut that one into three piles. Don't look out of yet.

Okay. Get rid of two. And how many cards do you have left? This pile. contains two cards pick the card you want don't look at it and get rid of another one okay my hands are clean nothing in my hands I'm going to move this card say the name of your card again eight of diamonds shit dude all right can I

tell you the story. I think you're going to like it. Yes. So I was at a party in Burbank. This was like 20 years ago. Okay. Okay. Magician guy walks into the party.

Okay. There was people drinking, drunk. Everything's going on. This guy comes in, but he's really cocky. He's not friendly and humble like you. He's like he's cocky. And he comes in and he starts doing tricks. And he's wowing everyone.

But at the end of the trick, Let's say his cards, the jacket clubs. At the end of the thing, he's like, and he's just like, it's just this attitude. Like everyone started to hate him by about the fourth trick. But he was, I don't even think he knew he was such a cocky brat. So I did what I did to you. I said, dude, can I have your cards?

I took the whole deck. And I did all that stuff I just did with you. And I never touched the cards. I even went outside. I said, pick your card and go. I'll go outside where you pay. Show it to everyone. He did all that stuff.

And I go, brother, what was your card? And he goes, Jack of Clubs. And I just went, I didn't even look at it. I just slapped it down. And there's some miracle of God. The odds are astronomical. It was the exact card. Wow.

And he was so flipped out. He left the party. He was just like, he couldn't. And everyone was just like, oh, suddenly I just took all his mojo. I didn't want to do it, but he was a dick. Wow. Had you ever done that before? I'd never done it, and I was hoping beyond a miracle

that somehow it would happen again, but it didn't. Wow. But can you imagine if I did that twice? And you thought you would have been... You would have been flipped. I would have been floored. But I appreciate that it happened once because... Right. What are the odds?

At the time when you really needed it most. Well, I really needed it here. because this is about a six-minute waste of their time. And you know what? I'm going to channel the blame here. Yeah, I'll take the blame. Will you? Yeah.

Can you just say it into the... I take the blame for the Jack of Clubs. And how many minutes time did we waste? Six. Minutes. Yeah. That was the trick right there. Got you, guy.

Check the time code. One more six, and we got Damien. It was exactly six minutes. Heart it. Six of hearts. Heart those minutes. Do you like bubbles? Does that do anything for you?

It reminds me of hitting the bong in college, honestly. Are you cereal? Yeah, I'm cereal. Captain Crunch. There's another form of magic I do that I think you're going to love. Will you get in on it with me again? Yeah, please. Okay.

Justin William, look at this. Magic mushrooms. Wow. I don't know if you want to partake, but I'm going to... Okay. Eat me some... Just the cap here? They're good.

Magic mushrooms. You ever do them? Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Just give it like a minute. I'd have another one. Wow.

Did you grow these yourself? You see them, they normally taste really bad, but these are quite tasty. They're magic mushrooms. I mean, who better to do magic mushrooms with than a top magician? That's right. Like, dude. That's right. Dude.

Have you ever watched magic on mushrooms? Dude. Dude. Dude. Bro. Bro? Bro. Bro?

Bro. Dude, bro. Dude, bro. Bro? Dude. Bro. Dude. Who's your friend?

What? Eddie? Who's your friend? Is he? Is he what? Your friend? Is he here? I think so.

I see him. Grape. Can I Touch your relish You have a relish on your face, bro? Relishing. Can I read your mind? Yeah.

Remember when Spock did the mind melt thing? Uh-huh. Can I? Yeah. Bro. Wow. Wow. I just saw Simon and Garfocal eating lizard under a bridge.

Wow. Oh. Dude. These are good. Yeah. They're magic. They are magic. Wow. Am I going to be okay?

Probably not, but we're going to have fun. Okay. Okay. Can I stay for a few days? Stay for a... I don't even know where we are, guy. Wow. There's a sign. There it is. What color is it? Vanilla.

I do feel something. Do you want me to play a song? Yeah. What's your favorite song? Like a rock song. Okay. Let's see. How about Angel from Montgomery?

John Prime. Okay. That's beautiful. I get a bleeding, bro. A bleeding caramel corn delight. From the sternum. Bro, sternum. I barely know him.

Oh, man. Wow, he's a good magic mushroom. He's a really good magic mushrooms. All right, let me shake my head and get back to to the interviewer. Do you want to stay in Planet Florgsnide or wherever we are? Florgstine. Oh, man.

Brother, what was the craziest trick you saw? I mean, I was hoping it was going to be mine. But it didn't work. But what's one that blew you away so much? Even a guy like you was just like, no. How? Or can you figure every one of them out? No, I can't figure everyone out.

I'm trying to think. Is there one that just like freaking, floored you, where you were just how in the name Donnie Osmond's tonsils. You know, Penn and Teller used to do a bullet catch trick. Explain. That was pretty...

You know who else did that JFK? Yeah. He only did it once. He did it once. And it was a magic bullet, they say. Yeah. If you pull out a bullet. Sorry, go ahead. That was a tense moment. The, uh, they, they have two 57 magnums.

They have a bullet. What? Two bullets initialed by audience members. Real bullets. Yeah. In the chamber. Uh-huh. A red line across the center of the stage.

So they don't, they're on opposite sides of the stage. Bullet A goes into Penn's gun. Bullet B goes into teller's gun. And they fired each other. And you hear a gun go off. And then all of a sudden, they've got each other's bullets in their mouths. And they kind of, it's very almost clinical in how they have everything checked out throughout the whole process. It's a real stumper.

So they have like someone under their guns and everything. Uh-huh. And they get up somebody with, you know, in law enforcement or gun experience to actually check the guns. It's a great trick. And they aim it obviously at each other's heads. Yeah, with laser sites. yeah and you have no concept is there do you have an inkling um or do you not want to give it away on behalf of the brotherhood honestly i i have i have heard it being discussed and i've tuned out

because i don't want to oh i like that yeah yeah yeah that's funny you want a little mystery of magic yeah you don't want to know what's behind the curtain i appreciate that exactly yeah it's Like it's sometimes when you meet your favorite hero like a celebrity or a sports figure, you almost don't want to because you're going to see parts of it that maybe you don't want to see. That or just that you, you know, you want to have a quality interaction that is the, that lives up to what you've built up all your life, you know? And maybe that'll never happen, but I feel like if it never happened, that's better

than being like, oh, hey, okay, bye, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Is that the type of magic show you take your kid to? And the kid watches two men shoot a gun at each other's face, and the kid turns to mommy, he goes, Mommy, I want to learn magic. They don't do this bit anymore, I think, because of all the gun violence.

Really? Yeah. Are you okay? Yeah. What am I doing? No, is the mushroom, like, making you salivate? Yeah. There is definitely a placebo effect.

You're not allergic, are you? No. Wouldn't that have been me committing to the bit if I was allergic? But you are oversalivating a bit? You can hear it on the mics? No, I just can sort of sense it. Like you're doing a lot of licking and almost like you're hiding a bullet in your mouth. Yeah, I'm good.

Are you good? Yeah. Do you need another drink? No, I'm good. You don't have a mushroom allergy? I don't have a mushroom allergy, no. Okay, I'm just... Am I bulbous?

Do I have... No? No, okay, good. But there is a placebo effect. What's that mean? I don't know what placebo effect means. Talk to me. You know, the body tricks itself when it believes it is, you know,

if you believe that you are taking a medication that will make you feel better for something, your body, in a sense, can create the illusion of feeling better. Like it can... Oh, so you're actually tripping right now. Yeah, big time. This is like a cracker barrel mushroom guy. These aren't, these aren't, well, I shouldn't give the trick away.

I didn't know, cracker barrel. I shouldn't give the trick away. You drove all the way to a cracker barrel? Maybe I did. Wow. These aren't Gelsons, magic mushrooms? The Ralph's magic mushroom. Okay, okay. He lives down the block back.

Oh, God. What is it, though? Why magic, though? What is it that people need that we love it so much, that we're just in awe of it? Why do people, why do folks, why do we need magic in our lives for God's sakes? Well, unfortunately, we don't need it. But every day I'm trying to remind people how. Sort of a career-ending answer.

But I think we don't know we need it until we see it. Should I cut it out? No, we're here to. Management's coming in. We're here to plug your magic special. You're right. Okay. I mean the whole we don't need it deal

you're right let's be more more positive about it so Justin why do we need magic why do we even have it can't live without it honestly yeah it's vital and our world is full of information and our fingertips you don't know something

you can just holler to the next room and she'll tell you the answer I'm sure right but magic gives you that feeling of like I got nothing I got nothing. And it reminds you of just being a child, I think, for a minute. Yeah.

I think that's a good thing. It is. Yeah. It does make you feel like a kid. It's good to wonder. It's good to wonder. And it's, I don't want to say, is trick a bad word for magicians to hear? I like trick. I like it.

Because I think it's fun for us to be tricked in a world where everything's so logical. I think it's great when our brains misfire and we can't find the answers and the pieces to something. And yet it's right in front of us. I really like that. I think it does keep us magical. Sometimes, and this is maybe revealing a bit too much. Did you remember Peter Pan? Yeah.

How magically was. And I hope this isn't too much thing. But sometimes when I'm watching your specials, I have a pair of green leotards and a little outfit I put on, and I pretend I'm Peter Pan. And I put a light bulb. I screw a light bulb into my ass. Yeah.

This is what I'm going for. I'm glad you got the... And it glows. Yes. I just, I go full Peter Pan and a little bit of tinkerbell. Mm-hmm.

And when I watch your specials, I just light up like a little fairy boy jacked up on nicotine patches. This is, this is, if that's okay to say out loud. It's what I'm going for. Dude.

Yeah, thank you. Thank you. How do you sit down? Well, I don't really sit. I spread eagle. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Uh-huh. In front of the flat screen. Yeah. Yeah. Or hemorrering. pillow is really a great way to watch. Oh, those are good.

It won't smash the light bulb. Have you ever had the hems? The roids? The roids? I would know, right? Yeah. Yeah, then no. You've never had a hemroid.

No. Anyone you know ever have one? I mean, I might as well ask. Yeah. It's around the topic. Listen, for those who don't know. Exactly. A hemroid is like a growth or polyp around the anus area.

Aeneuse. Yeah. Uh-huh. I think I do. do know people with hemorrhoids and good people good people just like you and me friendly folk just like you and me but with hemorrhoids farm folk city folk i'd say cream of the cream of the crop cream of the crap mm-hmm guess this song Jingle bells

No, it's a major pop song 11 minutes long One of the top pop songs ever Okay This is the ending Stairway? She's buying a stair. You can do it.

Dude. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. I'm not even joking. That was it. That was it. Dude, are we on magic mushrooms or hot?

With an accent on the age. Wow. Well, hot. What? Well, hot. De Hoot. That, this, listen, there's some bad game shows on television. Yeah.

This trumps. This could be a game show named that pop tune. Yeah. What would you call this show? Retarded? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think that's a given. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the retarded show. Yeah. Yeah. Some shows tell you a little bit of what the show's about in the title. Nah. Not this one.

This one, you see it immediately. And it does tell you everything you need to know, really. Wow. Yeah. Has anyone ever gotten mad at you? Because, you know, in a way, magic, if I can put a little French-Canadian Cajun onto it, the magic

you're sort of deceiving people to a degree in a good way have you ever had an adverse reaction and if you want a verse is a bit of a big word for some of my viewers so I'm going to do a bubble adverse

that's for the whales and dolphins that's adverse in bubble talk but has anyone ever like kind of got mad at you or been like hey dude this isn't cool or don't trick my kids or has there ever been one of those? Those were, it was, like, kind of problematic or someone got mad at you for it.

Because you do some very big elaborate setup pieces, too. Has there ever been someone who just went, hey, this wasn't cool, man. My girlfriend, no, not in front of my chick, bro. You made me look like an idiot. Has that ever happened or no? There are some, you know, denominations of Christianity who think that it's black magic.

Right, it's sort of devil's work? I'm a demon, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that, you know, me saying that it's not. I'm a magician. Well, that's exactly what a demon would say. So. And your son was how old? 666. And I made you waste time with my trick for how long? Six minutes. We're almost there. How many mushrooms did I eat? Let me answer.

Welcome to hell. Well, friend. Now, I could have just wipe the drool off my beard, but why? We're in show business. Why not make it big? Why not make it show busy? Like, pffr?

Versus just... It's the ASMR of it all. You know? We're in show business, guys. We are. Can you believe it? We don't do anything small. It's ridiculous. Oh.

Would you die for a trick? But wait, you didn't answer first if someone got mad. I got to believe somebody got mad somewhere. Let's see. They felt made a fool of maybe, which they shouldn't, but maybe not. If you're struggling to find,

maybe it's never happened. Don't force it, my guy. You know, I did just get it. I got an email last week from some, I don't know, some girl, she was replying to a newsletter of mine from like four years ago.

I guess she saw me in Chicago four or five years ago and she goes not cool for you to make fun of me for being single and it was four years ago and I don't I was like

I don't remember this person yeah what made this come up now right was this pressing I don't know you know that's what we do

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yeah well you know so this was four years ago yeah you're positive yeah four maybe six yes my child Would you die for magic? Would you, would you, you know, Harry Houdini, there's a myth that Harry Houdini died in his water tank? Mm-hmm.

Or is that accurate? It's not accurate, but they put it in a movie, his basic biopic. They changed his means of death for a better ending. And we know what is, the real ending was far less dramatic. They say he drowned in his underwater torture chamber apparatus. Right.

Folks, I hate to disappoint you. Justin and I hate to let you see behind the curtain. He died of a mere burst appendix. Yes, due to autoerotic exsciation. It was? What? Wait, what kind of car did he have? Auto what?

And auto exotic. Oh, so was a Lamborghini? It was a lambo, the first one. Oh, God, I don't do it. He was punched in the gut. Yeah, in Montreal. all exactly only in canada this kind of stuff happens and it ruptured his appendix yeah and it got infected he didn't realize he felt a little ill and sweaty and cut to a week later the bacterium

and you thought i was going to say bacteria but this is part of the mind game i play yep did you think i was going to say bacteria you know if i if i were to guess where that word was ending i would have said it would have been an a but and i said bacteria Like a scientist. And if we look it up, we'll see that only an advanced mind would say, even dare to say bacterium. Right. But the bacterium spread through his body, and it was too late. Died in Detroit.

He died in Detroit. He was punched in Montreal, died in Detroit. Wow. Talk about a geographical death. Yeah. Most of us die in one spot. He died in international death. This guy's death was like.

like a game of monopoly. He smuggled bacterium over the border. He might as well been murdered by Google Earth. Yeah. Justin. Yeah. Justin, please. Please.

Bring him back to life. Were you, do you get emotional for stuff like that? I mean, is he iconic to you, or is he just, he's a guy from the past? Was he, did he have influence in your life? Yeah, he's iconic. I've had a picture of him in my room, like, from age 12. In your bedroom? In my bedroom.

Is it still there? Or did the wife say, uh-uh, not so sexy. Yeah. But, you know, he's larger than life. I did every, like, book report on Houdini. Was he one of your initial, like, influences where you went, I like this? Was he one of the first guys you saw or was it someone else? I think he was one.

Yeah, I mean, he's like, you know, even before I was a magician, you know, you know. Yeah. And no one talks about Houdini, like, being lame, you know? Yeah. Like, he's like this godlike, figure that you kind of, you know, he's larger than life. So you do kind of, it makes, it makes the idea of being a magician a little exotic, you know, wow. Do you get emotional talking about his death and his life? I don't, but I would love to get in a time machine and go back and

watch a Houdini show. I feel like I'd be disappointed. Why? I mean, just, like, he would get locked up in a box, you know, and then they'd raise a curtain. and then you'd watch a curtain for 10 minutes, you know, waiting for him to leap out of there. That's one of the things that's so beautiful about your stuff. You don't do a lot of concealing. A lot of it sort of right out in the open. And some of it's not even, I don't,

I'm trying to word of probably concealing magic, but you're creating an illusion using other people. One of my favorites is the one where you convinced a guy that he was invisible. Yeah, that was a good day. And you had a cast of people who were the audience, and I think you said

you're going to be invisible, and then everyone in the audience was in on it. So the trick happened in plain sight, but the guy who thought he became invisible, he was just like freaking out. How did that feel for you doing that one? That was one of them, you know,

because any magic trick is, you know, obviously you want to, to see something unbelievable. But if you know it's a magic trick, you know, you don't need to know how it works. The explanation is, oh, that wasn't real. Okay, it was a magic trick. Yeah. So to convince a grown adult that he truly had become invisible, I think it took the confirmation bias of all these people acting like they couldn't see him.

Yeah. And then he had to also see another dude become invisible. So the old trick of just making someone disappear presenting it as if, no, this is Exhibit A. this guy's gone you know it's a psychological is that specific moment on youtube so that i can create a i can help you so what's it called just so i can uh you could probably find if you looked like justin willman invisible you'd find okay you'd find that guy yeah go if you're if when you finish this podcast don't do don't you dare do it now don't open a tab don't open it now No.

You don't cut away from us. They'll be invisible to you. Yeah. We're in show business. You don't cut away from us. You cut away from Rogan. That's right. You cut away from Benny Hill.

You cut away from... Dick Cavett. Dick Cavett. You cut away from Tippy Tinder. Hendren. Timmy Hendren. You cut away from the Super Bowl. You don't cut away from these two.

That's right. Rividing. to do you know but that was a that was my favorite that was your favorite skit yeah your favorite trick uh huh wait i picked the one that was your favorite yeah for sure come on yeah are you are you no i'm not joking did you put it in my head to say that

you know because i love that one how many times have you watched it probably three six that's right but half of six is what is three and if i said three and then you said how many, and I said three again. That's two threes. That's two threes, which is six. Welcome to hell. There you go, baby.

And what does hell sound like? I could listen to that for an eternity. Right? That's like bubbling lava. I love it. That's like what you'd hear in Satan's underpants. When you can't clear the song, you just bubble it. Yeah. You know?

Right. Who needs to pay a licensing fee? Pick a song. song. How about Let It Be by the Beatles? If Phil Specter could have heard this. Yeah, from jail while he's getting manhandled. Yeah. Is he in jail or is he alive? I think he died. I think he fell in his own hair. Suffocated. It didn't cushion him? Yeah. No, he fell in his own hair. He was suffocated. It imploded like a black hole.

I want to see if I can make you a little emotion. here today. And then can we do another trick? Yeah. Can we do another trick and then I make you emotional? Yeah. I think I can make you cry. Maybe I can make you emotional with a trick.

Okay. Let's see. Bring it on, Caesar salad or whatever they call you down at the magic club. I don't know. I don't hang around there. Oh, here we go. I got some scrabble tiles in a bag. Okay.

Okay. There's a new one I'm working on here. Oh, good. This is a freshie? This is a freshie. Nobody, you haven't done this before on camera. No. Oh, I'm honored.

Can I say that I'm honored? I'm glad you. Yeah, thank you. I'm really honored. We'll see if it's got the, if it's got legs. I think it does. Everything you do is freaking amazing. Scrabble tiles.

Every letter of the alphabet I know is at least in there once or twice. And can I also mention that they're, they're very fresh. They are fresh. They are fresh. Okay. Ziploc. Oh. Can you smell the Y?

Smell the Y. Oh, the Y smells good. Oh, God. I can't wait. Okay. I'm going to try to, we'll see if the Scrabble tiles can read your mind. Oh. Think of a little, little secret about yourself that nobody knows.

Don't tell me. Just think of it. Okay, can I have a second? Yeah. Because I really want to think of a legitimate one. Okay. Okay. Got one?

Yep. All right. Reach in there and, you know, close your eyes. Okay. And just pull out three. Three? Like in the bottom there Just three

One, two, three All at once? Yeah Okay, sorry I'm trying to feel three I got three I got three yeah great okay Now what we go Open your eyes here

I've got the three that you pulled out Okay Let's see Let's see if the Scrabble tiles know all We've got a K Okay Wow you made me say K

I didn't want to say You've got it. Okay. Okay. I wasn't thinking that necessarily. You know, maybe we've got some work to do. Yeah, maybe it stands for some. Yeah.

I don't know. Yeah, that, I wasn't thinking that, really. All right, you got me. So I'm in the KKK. What, is that a problem? Well, I mean, when do I get to have a hobby? I mean, come on, guy, you got me, okay? Well, any other fun tricks that can ruin my life?

God. Got anything in there? Some letters that spell out, bombed the abortion clinic? That's too many letters. Uh, got any, uh, letters that spell out, JFK. Yeah, I'm the shooter. Hello. I mean, this was going real well

till you turned open the fucking closet and emptied out my life. Sorry, that had to happen on camera. I've kept, it feels good to get it out, though. Well, you know, it's, uh, well, you know, it's, it's, magic is therapeutic. Can I try your own trick on you, or is that blasphemy? You want to see what I can pull out of there?

Yeah. Is that, or is, I don't want to step on the turn up, or whatever the term is. Okay, I'll close my eyes. But don't I get to hold the bag and shake it? Do you want to shake it? Yeah. Do I get to hold it or is that? You can hold it.

Why are we going around this side? Oh, I, you know, you're right. I'd like to go this. Okay, close, I close the, family's year, as they say in French. Just three, please. One, two, three. But did you think of a secret in your life? Oh, I did.

Okay. I did. Okay, S, A, Y. Say it. Your secret. I'm also in the KKK. Holy shit. Now I hear the voice.

You've always got that thing on your face. The hood hair. Charlie. How you do it? Oh, David. Oh, wow. Will I see you Thursday night? Thursday night, I'll be there.

Okay, great. Yeah, yeah. You know, a carpool? I can. I'm going to be at the abortion clinic in Cleveland. Oh. But maybe next week. Oh, thanks for your service.

Folks, that was a magic comedy skit. That was good. No. I like that you held just for the editors to know exactly wear to trim. Oh, there's no editing. Oh, great. We're live. We're live. Uh, so that was, that was a cool trick. Hey, I like that. Did I really randomly just pick out those letters? Um, that's amazing. It's amazing. Was, did I really pick out three K's? You know, you're putting me in the spot. Oh, yeah, I don't want to. Do I, well, it's like, you know, because people, yeah, I can't ruin it. Well, do, you, you can, if you want.

No. You know. I don't want to. You know. I don't want to. You know. I don't want to. I don't want to. You know. I don't want to. I don't be that guy. There was a guy on TV years ago. Do you remember? He had a mask on. The masked and he ruined what were your thoughts about that? I was pretty pissed at the time. Because I was a magician. I was like, hey.

You know? Yeah. But now I don't really care. I do meet people who became a magician because of that show. Oh. Yeah. They were so intrigued. Yeah. Because you know what it was? The curtain was pulled back and they saw what we call the mechanics of the trek

and I bet there were some people that were more entranced by the mechanics of it than the actual execution because you know some people are mathematicians and they think differently or mechanics they're sort of turned on by how an engine all fits together I bet there were some people

who were sort of fascinated with the mechanics and that might have pushed them into it I don't know I'm just speculating They chose tricks that looked mechanical in that it's like, oh, I could do that, you know? You just need to buy that box and stand there and all of a sudden stuff happens. Yeah. Wow. But, you know, it takes a little bit of...

What do you read? I feel like there's another trick about that. I didn't even ask, but I can see in your eyes there's something swirling like carnival fudge on a dairy queen tugboat. We could try something here. Something that's not so KKK-ish? Yeah, yeah. Let's give us... Let's give ourselves an alt if we can.

Oh, what are you doing? I was going to, you know what, here. Okay. I'm going to let you read my mind. Really? Yeah. I'll let you do the trick. I'll kind of, I'll talk you through.

Fun. I'll get my stuff out of the way. Oh, I like this. I'll talk you through the beats. So I'm doing the trick, not you. Yeah. So I get to be a magician just for a moment. Is that cool?

I love, I'm honored. You know, before you put your hand on my head And you were trying to read my mind, right? When we were on troops. You like that? That sounds like a, you know, sound effect board. Do you want some more? Yeah, give me one more.

How long? One more hit. Like six seconds. Wow. You're welcome. Wow. Friend. Kicked in that.

placebo effect there. Okay. I think you missed the end part. I said, friend. Oh. Thanks, friend. Buddies. Show business buddies. Real. Real buddies. Yeah. Magic mushroom buddies. Dude, dude. Dude, we've become buddies. I've never bonded with anyone so fast. Like, quick buds. I might be your new best friend. Would you have me? I'm already there. Yeah, we're, we're, okay, wow. I don't know if you have a new, do you have your best friend? what's his name I have best friends okay

and I'd love for you to join I would love you to put together a group email and just tell them all to F off we meet on Thursday nights is that going to conflict with your other organization that we learned about Charlie? Yeah David

Hey hey oh wow that's right actually that was off by a couple of letters I don't go to the KKK meetings I don't believe in them but I do have the sheet but I'm embarrassed.

I go to KFC with a pillow slip on my head. I get so many zits that I put the pillow slip on my head, cut out the eyes, I'm addicted to KFC. The oil makes you... Yeah, so you were around it.

You were two letters off. I see. Well, I'm glad we cleared that up. Yeah. Yeah, that'll be helpful in the apology. Thanks, friend. You didn't listen to the whole thing.

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So tell me to think of any word in the English language. Tell you? Yeah, tell me. So I'll be the... Do I say the word? I'm the spectator. No, you're going to tell me to think of a word. Okay.

Think of any word in the English language. Any word? Any word. Okay. Okay, got it. Okay. Now, here. Say, I'm going to write down the word.

I think you're thinking of. Don't let me see. Okay. Okay. Can I put my glasses on? Or do you want this blurry? No, you do it. Okay. I want you to be crystal cleared.

Make sure no cameras are seeing it. Okay. Good. Thank you. Can it be a long word? If you think it's in my vocabulary ability. Yes, I think it is. You've done? Yes. You can close that book.

Say, I've made my prediction. I've made my prediction. there's nothing in this pen or in this book, they are clean. Okay, now say for the first time for the first time what word are you thinking of?

What word were you thinking of? Want me to just say it? Yeah. It's a long one. Yeah. It can mean many things. I mean, definitively it could mean many things.

My word was ambiguity ambiguity did you get it right ambiguity ambiguity ambiguity what

wow brother we really are best friends only best friends would know this finishing each other's sentences what

exactly exactly I say, I say, drop the mushroom on the left-hand side She got the balk, give me the moucho, make me jump and shout Wamb-bomb-bill-l-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum. He said, pass the mushroom on the left-hand side.

And I finished the song with bubbles. Dude, that was incredible. My brain is reeling the process side of me really wants to figure this out, but I don't want to ruin anything. But I don't know that I can figure it out. Can I try? Or would that ruin it? Because if I guessed it, I might ruin it. For yourself?

Like, can I say it out loud? What I think happened here? Maybe. I honestly don't know because it's such a random word. Yeah. How often do you hear the word ambiguity in a daily conversation? The only thing I'm trying to process this in my head, and I'm looking at this fluid pad,

and the physicist in me, and I'm not saying I was touched in boarding school. Bacterium physicist, yes. Part of me wonders if this is some sort of a pressure-sensitive mechanism, and as I made my strokes with my writing, there was something attached to you, an earwig, or some sort of Wi-Fi implement that, In your head, you could detect almost like Morris Code,

like, e, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, almost like a demented whale call on a Thursday night behind the Dairy Queen in Bakersfield. That's the Copperfield fight call right there. You know what's interesting. Okay, because here, can I see the pen? Because this is kind of similar to... And I don't expect you to reveal, but that's...

Here. That's the physicist to me breaking it down, wondering how you could do this? Much more low-tech. I don't think I'm being, I don't think this is much of a spoiler here. Are you going to tell me? I'm not going to tell you. Okay, I'm good. I will, okay.

Like, if I'm not seeing what you're writing, but I am kind of seeing you know, that top of the pendants there. Just like I can tell that you're playing stairway, stairway in heaven. That was even better, I think. There's a little bit of a dance you can kind of see from the top of the pen so at least it helps me

listen you did the trick I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to I don't want to rob you of that that was your trick would it be ruining it if I asked to do it again or is it it's like it's done you want to do it again I just I'm so fascinated by it

but if it's if it's gonna ruin it I don't want to do it no I mean you because you didn't expect that just like try it again do you want to you want if you don't mind Not that I'm trying to defame you. I'm just, I'm so fascinated by it.

It's more about I'm enamored by it. I'm not trying to make you look like a failure. I want it to work, but I'm so, it's so interesting. Right? Would it be okay or no? We could. We could. I don't want to.

Since you are a physicist, you know what you might find even more interesting. Ooh, here we go. because there's a lot of psychology involved in magic I like psychology you know when I was in the wing of the asylum that was a word that was used quite a bit when I was laying there with the bolts on my temples and I was, whenever you say that anyways

what do you got? Okay, a dye oh six sides, right? How many? We all know. And look what you rolled. Yeah.

No word. I'm picking this up clean. Six-sided die. Welcome to magic, my child. I suck your soul. I will see you in the eternal brimstone. My child, there will be a buffet after the show. Satan had to throw that in.

I'm glad you did. Yeah. Okay, we got to die. Shout out to our sponsor. Satan. Satan. Why don't we call it a live? Because I feel like anything around dice is active.

You're gambling. You're playing a game with the family. Why do we have to be so... Why do we call it die? That's a... That's a downer. You're not wrong. You're not wrong.

And plus, then people just call it a dice, and then they're wrong. They look stupid because it's singular. Can I just for this... Uh-huh. You want to call it alive? A live. A live. A live. A live.

A live alive. Thank you. Think of a number from one to six. Don't let me see it, but turn the dice so that numbers up so that it's kind of locked in, you can't change your mind. And shield it from you? Yeah. You can cup your hands around it.

Okay. Okay. And can it be sick still or no? If you want. Okay. That might have been a real big giveaway. I'm not the best at this stuff. Okay.

That might have been a misdirect. Okay. Or a fool. Or a friend direct. Will you say the numbers one through six out loud as monotone as possible? You know I can't say six monotone. No, you're right, you're right. But I'll do the rest.

Okay. One, two, three, four, five, six. Okay. It's not six, I'm pretty sure. Are you? Say it again. The same way? Yeah.

One, two, three, four, five, six. Is it four? I sounded like a bullfrog. I think it's four, because there's something about the way, like you kind of were trying to rush four, is if you didn't want to draw attention to four. Is it four? It is.

Thank God. Thank God. But do you really, I feel like that was more of a trick for amphibians. because if we just tweak it a little bit, can I do it, a count to sit? Okay. One, no, three, four,

uh, do you do cricket noises? I'm not very well. I could try it for the first time. Okay, well, I'm doing the frog noises. You do the, and I think you're going to see

this is a really amphibious. Ready? Okay. sort of a swamp vibe yeah it took me there were you doing that on purpose or did you put that in me you have to be more specific put what in who what light bulb and Peter Pan what

wait hey pinker who well okay now is that the completion of the trick yeah but just trying to show you that you know that you are a little more of an open book than you try to be can I try it on you yeah Okay. I love it.

Shake it up in your hand. Put it on the table. I'm not looking. Monotone as you can. Okay. One through six. Hold on. I'm going to give you a little accompaniment.

Ready? Uh-huh. And go. One, two, three, four, five, six. Five. Five. Oh. minus one is four take away two is one, two is one, plus five is six.

Yes. Wow. Wow. Dude. I don't even know how I did that. Wow. What the F? Are you threatened by that at all? Be honest. Like you come in here, you Jimmy crack corn me and I come right back and Apple Jack slam you. Jimmy crack corn you. Like are you threatened? Are you jealous that I picked it up that quick? Like I did the Apple turnover

on you. Listen, I pride myself in being a good teacher. Yeah. Good answer. I try. You know? We could take the show on the road. No thanks. I'm busy. Okay. I apologize if I took it to a business.

this place when our friendship is purely. I'd do anything with you, but not that. I would do anything for love, but I won't do that. I'd do anything with you, but I would not tour. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've got to keep that clean. That's fun. Wait, where did

my paper go? Which one? I had a... Did you take it? Which paper? I had a paper with all the questions. Wait, did you? What a guy? Oh, here it is. I thought you did it Shred. I want to make you emotional.

Oh, that's right. That's right. Okay. I want to make you emotional and see. I'm going to go back to Houdini real quick. Okay. He died. He was an influence in your life. I want to pitch you him in that hospital in Detroit. After a week in Grace Hospital in Detroit, Houdini whispered to his brother, Theo, quote, I'm tired of fighting. Guess this is going to get me. Taking one last glance at his wife, Bess,

he closed his eyes and died at 126 p.m. on October 31st Sunday, 1926. Wow. Pretty heavy, huh? Yeah. And you put his pitcher out in the hall, you son of a, if I ought to fly across this table? Yeah, I let him down. Well.

everything's okay now that was trippy geez we're good I felt like I heard it like in three places are we cool yeah we're so cool we're back buddy all this malarkey I want to support you I love you I think you're absolutely brilliant you brought me so many hours of entertainment we have one segment left but before we do that you have one more trick you want to do so we can sort of pump up your special. Oh, I love, I love the pump it up. I love the support.

We love the, it's going to be on Netflix, right? It's going to be on Netflix. Yeah. It's called Magic Lover. Magic lover. And what you've done is something that not a lot of magicians have done. You've infused comedy into your magic. Yeah.

Which is something I really respect as a so-called comedian. Yeah. But I love that you've incorporated that. Is that something that's really important to you to do? Yeah, I feel like, you know, it was, I started magic when I was 12, but when I was in college, I kind of fell in with a bunch of comedians, much of comedians, so we'd go up and do spots and, you know, kind of, because as a, you know, magicians try to be funny.

Yeah, yeah. But rarely do you kind of, do they approach the comedy that's in their act as, as, you know, something that needs to be original and worked on separate from the tricks? So, yeah, I'm pretty proud of it. Is it fair to say that you should be? Oh, my God. Is it fair to say that your special is a magic special? Is it a comedy special with infused with some magic?

Or is it a 50-50 split or all stand-up? I would say it's a 50-50 split. Maybe 60 magic. I mean, there's a lot of magic. Great, great. Hopefully there's a lot of funny in there. Yeah. There's a lot of magic.

Was that a little scary for you to go out? and be exposed and sort of be doing, sort of mixing the magic and comedy so much? Or did you traditionally lean deeper into the magic? I got my start doing magic, but before I was a magician, I was obsessed with comedy. Okay. I just didn't know how to do it.

Like, as a kid, I was a little kid. You know, I just tell jokes that I heard Johnny Carson say and they would just confuse people, you know, because it didn't make sense for the 12-year-olds talking about his wife, you know? Yeah, yeah. But yeah. And I've been doing magic and comedy on stage is what I, you know, make a living doing.

But I just haven't had a chance to do that on Netflix. So it's nice to find me. I think this will be cool to see, because I watched the trailer, and it looks sort of like you're coming out to do a full stand-up set. Yeah. And I don't know that a lot of people in the history of comedy and magic have blended it so much. So I hope people love it. It's their first. magic comedy special.

Yeah. Yeah. Congratulations. I love that. Thank you. I'm excited. I'm excited. I love that.

I'm excited. Well, let's do one last trick to pump it up. I'm excited. Everyone's excited. And then we'll do our final segment after that. But let's go out and folks, make sure you check out the special on Netflix. And if you don't, maybe I'll come to your house and throw a piece of dog dirt at your front window. That's from me to you. That's my support. Oh, you know, this is fun because since you,

this is kind of like the trick that you started with here. Okay. Clear the mushrooms. Clear the mushrooms. Yeah. The live. The live. There we go. Because we started, I had a whole, I had a big old deck of cards out here, remember? Yeah. Big. Then I've got, I've got one, I've got one card I take with me in my wallet all the time. Oh, wow. It's my lucky card. Oh boy 52 cards in a deck Yeah Imagine there's a deck of cards

In your hand, Harland Okay Do you want to remove The spot cards Or the picture cards Uh Let's remove the picture cards Let's remove the picture cards

Okay You put those picture cards on the table You can throw the spot cards Down there with the mushrooms Okay Mushrooms Bye And so we're looking at

these picture cards, there's jacks, queens, kings. Okay. Do you like the red cards or the black cards? Let's go black. The black cards. Yeah. So the clubs and the spades. Do you like club or spade?

Spade. Spade. So we're looking here at the Jack of Spades, queen of spades, king of spades. Yeah. Which one's your favorite? Can I add a little addendum? Yeah.

Can I just say my favorite? Say your favorite. Because I love it so much, it's almost like a flavor to me. Listen, if the trick doesn't work, I might say that's why. Okay, you got an out. But I love a good out. The Queen of Spades is my absolute favorite. That's good.

Thank you. That's good. Can they see here? Oh, my God. Hold it up a bit so they see, yeah. So it's my... That's your wallet? It's my mag safe wallet.

And you carry that everywhere. I do. There's your license. It's a real, yeah, blockbuster card. Uh-huh. Red Cross donor card. Oh, there we go. This is here at all times.

This is my flavor. Your flavor, you said what? Queen of Spades. Ah. Oh. It's my flavor. Flavor it. Can I sniff it?

You want to sniff? Is it okay? It is my favorite. Bring it over here. Let's sniff it. Let's sniff it together. I got to ask, after taking a deep sniff, is it now your flavor? It's my, yeah, yeah.

Wow. We are best spots. It's a fragrant flavor. How did we not hang out before this? You know, it's just, it's hard to get up. It's hard to get up here, you know. Wow. That's fun.

I have a card trick for you one last one. That makes you emotional? Not real. Well, it made me flavor. Ambivalent. is an emotion. Ambiguity. It could be an emotion.

I'm going to give you one last card trick. Okay. If you had the choice, would you take one card or a pair of cards? Pair. Hold up your arm and show them your bicep. The other one. Pull your shirt back.

A pair of cards right there. Wow. Is there two there? I don't have my glasses. There's one there. Hold on. Which means one's missing. Ah, there's a...

Fuck. Do you know how close this is to being the card that you turned over at the beginning? Oh, yeah. Jack of Spades could have been the... Wow. Wow.

Okay, that failed. Let's do our final. segment, my guy. No tricks here. We do this with every guest. Oh, we've started recording? Oh. Okay. Hey. Hey, everybody. Justin Williams is here.

And how dare you? Now that we're such buddies, I think we should have the same last name. I think we basically do. According to TSA, we definitely do. Yeah. Yeah. This is words from a wooden shoe. We do this with every guest, buddy. Random words.

Okay. You reach inside and see if it triggers a story from your journey in life, something that happened to you, your wife, a friend, something like just something in your life based on the random word. See if there's a story there that can be sparked by the

randomness of a word. What do we got? Sibling, hate, or love. Oh, wow. That's four words. Yeah, yeah. Sibling hate or love. Do you have siblings? I do have a sister. One sister, younger, lover. Lover, okay.

Yeah, her name's Ashley. Okay. And first thing I thought of here, since we're talking about magic today, is when I was 13, I was like a year into being a magician, I really wanted to do magic with doves. Oh, yeah. And so I had a bunch of doves that I didn't act with, and I talked to her into being my assistant. And she was like 10 at the 10, no, even younger. Cute.

She was eight, super cute. She wore a French maid outfit. like an leftover Halloween costume, and she would put the doves on the perch for me. Yeah. That's a loving sister. What a bonding moment. Yeah, right? And for her to probably not know in that moment how deep and how far you would go with your magic.

That's true. You can only look back on that and realize the depth and the sentimental value of that moment. It's a very loving and beautiful moment and touching. She's the best. And I was trying to make you emotional, but it looks like you turned it around on me, you son of a bitch. Just give you a minute. Little dogs, this is what it sounds like when thumbs cry. Chee, do, do, do, do, do, do, do.

Sorry. I'm crying. I'm sorry. Okay, you know what? a straw to blow bubbles along with that one. That's a beautiful story. Thank you. You know?

And are you still close with Ashley today? Ashley and I are very close. Are you? And how does she feel about, like for her to be there at the very beginning? I mean, I don't know if you ask her about it, but maybe how does she feel about this incredible arc and journey you've taken in life? And you've touched a lot of people in a beautiful way. How does she feel looking at it now?

She has always been, like, excited and proud. Oh, yeah. Isn't that beautiful? Yeah, I'm so lucky. You're very lucky, because if you were a solo kid, like what you've done, it's sort of like any entertainer or me in stand-up, you literally have to go up so many stairs to achieve levels.

There's probably 100,000 magicians in the United States right now. and you're one of the guys doing Netflix specials and really out there. And it's a huge congratulations and kudos to you for all you've accomplished, but for her to be there at its inception and to watch, yeah, how could she not be proud? I'm proud.

And we just became best friends about 12 minutes ago. Well, we have the same last name. People think we're siblings. Yeah, Williams. You know. But yeah, I'm very grateful for that. Well, I'm very... Siblings are the best.

I'm very grateful. We're all grateful that you're here on this planet, in this world with us, giving us a break from reality, helping us to remain kids, helping us to believe in magic. It's been an absolute pleasure. And before we go, this is your moment. Not only plug your special, but everything else, your social media, anything else you want to alert everyone to.

This is your time, my guy. This is my pulpit. This is it. Go for it. Listen. Fans in the highway, Justin Wilman was honored to be a guest. If you enjoyed watching me for even a second, come see me on tour. I've got a brand new tour. It's called The One for the Ages tour. All over the country, Justin Wilman.com for tickets. Watch Magic Lover on Netflix. But rewatch this episode first. Because there's things you missed. A couple of sixes that slipped through the cracks. Yeah. And the mushrooms are wearing off, so it's time for another bite. Yeah. Thanks for having me. Dude, it was a real pleasure.

And for my magic trick finale. Yeah. Disappear. Okay, I'll pack my things up and go. Yeah. Okay. But don't tell them. You're just supposed to go silently, so it looks like you disappeared.

Okay. folks I just made my guest disappear sure his magic was great but he walked right in front of the camera well I'm just telling them how I did my trick and you I'll just go well if you could and what I did is I made him disappear

sure cards dice tiles scrabble fungus but I made him completely disappear and you could stay down please And that's it for today, folks. Thanks for being here on the Harland Highway podcast.

And until next time, chicken chowmaine, and we are out. I should have sat down. I should have said out and then snapped. We are out. Okay, you can come up now. I think I tricked over. That's a great outro. Yeah.

That was great. You have an outro? I haven't any. Oh. Yeah. We are related. Hey, gang, are you craving more Harland Williams? We'll join our Patreon page at patreon.com backslash Harland Williams.

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