The Harland Highway - NEW HARLAND HIGHWAY #17 - MICHAEL ROSENBAUM FROM SMALLVILLE

Episode Date: July 26, 2022

My buddy actor/writer/podcaster/ Michael Rosenbaum sits down to talk about our adventures down the Amazon River, through Burning Man, and so much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, hey, hey, welcome everybody to the Harland Highway podcast. And before we get going on today's episode, which is a great episode, one of my best buddies Michael Rosenbaum from the hit television series Smallville, Michael played Lex Luthor for the duration of the smash hit series. Smallville, the story of Superman when he was young and Lex Luther when he was young and Michael and I have a long friendship on today's show, we're going to take you on a journey

to the Amazon River, we're going to take you on a journey to the Burning Man Festival, we're going to take you on a journey to Shark Country. I mean, there's all kinds of cool film clips in this episode and a little teaser trailer for a documentary film that I actually shot that's never been seen before. You'll be the first to see this footage.

It's pretty cool stuff. But please, please remember to subscribe. There's a little button right here. Please subscribe so I can keep bringing you more great guests like Michael and all my other great guests and tell your friends to get on the Harland Highway, but hit that subscribe button. And for sure with this episode,

leave us some comments. down below in the comments section because me and Michael actually make a request during the podcast to have you reach out and help us. So hope you enjoy this episode. My good buddy, Michael Rosenbaum, let's have some fun. Let's go on an adventure down the Harland Highway. Here we go. You're riding down the Harland Highway. The Harland Highway Show Hardland Williams Yeah, here we are, gang.

Oh, wow, we got someone doing the Air Guitar. I'll tell you who it is in a minute, but you're here on the Harlan Highway with Air Guitar Wally. Wow, dude. Whoa, is that Eddie Van Halen? Whoa, Van Halen. Yeah, really nice.

Nice. Did you compose that music? No, it's the theme music. Right, but is it something you composed? No, no. Did you just rip it off for free somewhere? No, it actually came in the sound system that I bought, the mixing board. Oh, I know it's free.

It's a freebie, yeah. I would have given you a song off my new album. You could. Oh, well, you said, can we start off, this is Michael Rosenbaum, by the way. Hi, guys. My buddy, actor, singer, he has a band. he's a philanthropist he podcaster you're a podcaster he does so much and we've been buddies for so long but can we kick it off with you like singing me like just one of your favorite lyrics from one of your

songs is that too weird to ask you to sing i'll sing back to you i'll sing a little thing back to you well i'm trying to think of a song that uh would work like you have like i mean there's so many songs off the new album, but like me singing it like by myself? Like MTV, I'm plugged, except there's no MTV and there's no plug. So it's just you singing. I go to heaven if I say so. That's all I remember. Wow.

I'll go to heaven if I say so. You know what? I can just play a little thing here. If you want to, guy. Well, how about that? That'd be better than me kind of a cappelling. I just woke up and shower. People love you raw.

They love you unplugged. Raw. I love you unplugged. when I can't hear you talk Jesus Guy burns his buddy right out of the game Oh

Yes Sounds good Ooh Ooh A little taste It's cool called I Go to Heaven. Yeah.

And, uh, I'm working on this new album, the band Sunspin. Sunspan. It's a passion project. Look, I don't think I'm going to be a rock star, a movie star.

Yes, you do. I know my God. You, you dream and want to be one. No, I just want to make music. No, you do. I will and you are.

We all have. No, I've always wanted, I'm too old now. No, you're not. I turned 50. I turned 50. I turned 50. Bruce Springsteen still tours

and he's 97 years old. But he's started when he's got a colostomy bag. He's in a wheelchair. He has no legs. He's got nubs. He was a rock star early in his life. He was a rock star early in his life. Yeah, but dude.

And then he continued to be a rock star. You can't just all of a sudden come out of nowhere. Not buying it. Rock star at 50. Can you folks? You can't a hit song does all of that for you. You have it like that sounded amazing. It's a really good song.

A hit song can take you from being a hobby guy. And I'm not a shrimp. These are air quotes. Okay. You're allergic to shrimp. I am just saying that. So these are air quotes. I'm not a shrimp, Michael Rosenbaum.

You're not going to get puffy and have an outbreak because I'm doing this. So the guy, you have a chance of being a rock star as easy as anyone. A hit song will do that. A long time ago, I was always nervous about singing and I always love music so much and I have a passion for it. And I love playing guitar. And then one day I just thought, you know, you don't have to sing like Adam Lambert. You don't have to sing like Sting. why don't you just do what you love and be you yeah and honest to god it sounds hokey but that's what's fun is making your own shit harland it's the best doing your own stuff having passion and some people they dig it and you no one loves music more than this guy everywhere we go we go on a road trip we do a barbecue anywhere we go you love music i do you love the 80s in particular and the 70s but 80s the most i love Chicago

You do. Great city. Great city. Great band. Great band. Old days. Sometimes I remember. Mondays. How did it do, day.

You guys got to listen to the song. It's called Old Days by Chicago. Okay. So what's your favorite 80s song? Like what, what is it? That's a tough one. I mean, Chicago's If You Leave Me Now is one of my favorites. Will you sing a little bit of that to me?

If you leave me now, you'll take away the biggest. Oh, my guy's stripping. What? I was the biggest part of me. My heart's in there. This is where my heart is. Great. Can you not interrupt my moment?

Sorry, buddy. Can you start again, please? Got a little fun comfortable for me. Fun comfortable. It was. Can you start again now that you know it's coming? If you leave me now, you take away the biggest part of me. See, this isn't uncomfortable, is it?

Bro. Oh, no, it's fun comfortable. We're broskees. You know, I've seen you in your underwear. You have? Well, you did my movie back in the day and you were in your skivies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're on the side of the road improvising, very funny shit.

Yeah, yeah. It was always a joy working with you, buddy. Well, we've seen each other pretty much everything. We've sawned together. We've sawned together. We've been in a trailer together. Yeah, it's dawn day afternoon with us. We've seen it all, man.

Yeah, we've seen it. You've seen more. We've seen it. Now, I feel like I got to sing to you. Go ahead. Can I sing a little... Please do it. How about a little Elvis?

No, because it's summer. I want to do... Oh, I know. I don't want to say goodbye for the summer. Michael, I promise you this. I'll send you all my love. Every day of the summer. Who is that?

And seal it. Shh. And seal it with... Fuck, bro. now I've got to start again. That's called stepping on a bro's vibe. I stepped on his vibe. You ran up on me and did a Rambo.

I did it. I thought you were going to take your shirt off again. Hey, you ran up on me and did a rink. Take your shirt off on your own podcast. I don't know about that, people. Look at you differently. Let me do the last part that you stepped on. All right, do it.

No, I don't want to say goodbye for the summer. Michael, I promise you this, I'll send you all my love every day in a letter and seal it with a kiss. That was for you, bro. If you don't like it, you can get up on your stumpy veteran legs and walk out the door. I liked it. I liked it. It felt comfortable.

It felt like you were just speaking right to me. Yeah. You know? Is that a real song? Yeah. Who sings it? Who's that band? Guar.

No, it's not Guar. That's Guar. Yeah, the guys with the big man. The big monster clothes and stuff? That's Guar. I don't think you're lying. I think you're lying. I think it's not Guar.

I think they sing harder stuff. Oh, dare you. Okay, so favorite song from the 80s was, if you leave me now. If you leave me now is one of them. But wasn't that the 70s? No, I don't think so. I think it was the 80s. I think it might have been the late 7.

I think it's one of my favorite songs of all time. You're right, it is 80s. I love The Cure. I love Morrissey. I love Def Leopard. I love Duran Duran. I love Talking Heads. I like, you know, home is where I want to be.

Pick me up and run me around. Never heard that song. Is that The Cure? No, that's Talking Heads. I don't know that song. Oh, my God. It's one of the best songs ever. I don't know it.

Before I don't like it, and in my mind it doesn't exist, would you please go back to if you leave me now? If you leave me now, you'll take away the biggest part of me. There it goes. And then, ooh, no, baby, please don't go. I think I like that song because I'm a nostalgic guy. And it reminds me of going to my grandma's house. I remember waking up in the middle of the night,

my dad's driving straight from Indiana to New York, And I remember getting off this exit, and I just remember that song coming on, and we're almost at Grandma's house. And I just remember nostalgia, and it just made me feel good. And I always think of that moment. Was it late at night? It was probably two in the morning. That's weird. I don't know if you know this song.

This was, I think, from the mid-70s, we were up at our cottage, and my uncle had a van. Like, back in those days, the only people that had vans were, like, carpet layers. I have a van. No, now you do. but back in the 70s, it was weird for a regular person to have a van. So when me and my sisters got in it, I was like the equivalent of stepping into a Mack truck. It was like, you're up higher, and it was like this.

And I remember driving down the highway at night. And there's this old song, I forget who it is, but I went to a garden party. And it stuck in my head like you. I remember sitting in the van driving. there's my uncle and out of all the songs in my in my history it's like i remember that that's the beauty of it that's great you know i was thinking on the way here i just like i miss certain things i miss the old days i think you know i just hit 50 and i don't know about you but like there's something happened it's just like oh my gosh i know it's just a number yeah but like you know

it's just like the when things were easier when you didn't have to worry about things and you can say it pre-social media i i guess so it's just like it was everyone was together uh you know i just i missed even times like at your house in the pool with people around and laughter and i mean that's what i want to my life to consist of more well you know what else happened too is everything was like condensed like if there was a hit song everyone across the globe heard it at the same time because the only place you could hear it was on terrestrial radio right so everyone shared in that communal experience of There's a new song, and it kind of unknowingly bonded everyone.

But now with the digital era, people are listening to music. You don't know where to go. It's, it's, it's omnipresent is what it is. That's right. Well, it's over-saturation. It's like there's so many points of entry. Same things with TV shows. Yeah, it's just like.

There used to be a couple of networks. It used to be this. And everybody could kind of share in, like, watching different things. Yeah. But now there's millions of shows. Yeah. And it's, I'm not saying this if I sound like a grandpa. No.

But at the same time, it's just, it's too much. It's like, I don't, hey, have you seen that show on Paramount City? Yeah. Paramount City. Yeah. What the hell's that? Oh, have you seen Toto, the new platform for, uh, animals? I, what are you talking about?

Yeah, my neighbor Wally is a new streaming network. Have you seen this stuff? Yeah, he's vacuuming his rug this week for 12 episodes. Yeah, I've got 16 streaming platforms to choose from because I want to watch one show. I have to pay 14. 99 to why, and then I cancel it? You know what happened, too? It's diluted because, you know, we're actors, I mean, amongst other things.

We met acting, but it's diluted the acting world to the point where you don't really feel there's stars anymore. You don't feel, because it's like you will hear about a hit new show on a streaming network, and it could be great like Stranger Things or Tiger King or whatever, and you watch it all in a week and a half, and you don't even know the names of the actors because you're on to the next thing. And you don't know the producers, you don't know who direct, you don't care. Yeah. You forget it almost two weeks after you watched it. And you're, by the time a year goes through, you've watched nine, nine series that would have taken you

nine years to watch. Seinfeld ran for what, nine years? Yeah. So you would have dedicated nine years of your life being a Seinfeld fan. And now you can watch a show of that caliber in a week. And you just, you forget the actors, you forget, so it's kind of, it's kind of watered down the whole industry. Yeah, and I know we're going off on a tangent, folks, and we're sounding old, but we're this is, we're speaking our minds here, but there's also another thing where I feel like, you know, I went to the movies last night. I went and saw Elvis. Oh, yeah, is it good? I liked, I thought he was terrific, the guy you played out. Really? I'm a little nervous, because on the billboard, they had him with mascara, and I thought,

what is it, Elvis at a drag show? He killed it. He killed it. Well, that's all right, my. Mama, that's all right for you. That's all right. Mama said anything you do, but that's all right. That's all right. He was extraordinary. The movie is okay.

Yeah. I gave it a B. You know, maybe a B. Really? I didn't know you went to the movies with a fucking Hornet's Nest. With a B. Sorry. But what I was going to say is that don't you think that movie theaters are going to become

sort of obsolete? I was thinking that the other day. There's so many movies are going straight to HBO Max. They're going straight to Netflix. And I'm kind of worried like, oh, crap. You know, what's going to happen to the cinema? I know. I love going to the movies.

It's an event, man. We've been to a lot of movies. We've been a lot of movies together. We sit in the back and we kind of make fun of everything. And then lately, not to sound snobby, but a few. Wow. Yeah. Nice.

Does that the counter to the horrible B joke again? There you go. Lately a few times, we've actually. rented out a theater at a theater and just gone with a bunch of friends we rented out quiet place too yeah i rented out nobody with a bob odenkirk yeah nobody that was a good time yeah that was fun it was kind of fun felt a little special renting out your own theater yeah it feels special going to the theater but you know it's really sucks i went to the uh universe of city walk yeah barely get that one out yeah and uh as i'm going to valet i'm paying and then i'm going to valet i'm paying

And the guy's like, and I go, hey, I got validation for valet as well. And he says, $45. Come on. I paid $45 for valet. $45. I even said to him, I go, $45. And he goes, yeah, I don't know what to tell you. I'm like, this is, I mean.

Stalone was your valet guy? Look, I don't know what to tell you. Look, I don't know what to tell you. It's $45. It's probably because it was Stallone. You had to pay like a celebrity fee. To meet him. I can't do it

I can't You can do it Say the fucking light It's like Just lower around Hey that's good to see How you doing Like just throw it away

I had Rodney Dangerfield Parked my car For me Hey Howard What kind of car is this Hey ever thought of a car wash The car's filthy Like your mom's ass

I thought you're gonna do An electric car joke You're your wife producing this electric car as a vibrator. What's wrong with your wife? You knew Rodney, too. I love those stories. I knew Rodney, yeah. You were there when he passed away.

I was. I was one of the last people to see him alive. I was at his bedside eight hours before he passed. I was like standing there. Dude, it was really hard to be there with him because he was such a big legend. And it's so full of life. And he's such a big guy that made someone, and to be at his bad side and see the state he was in.

And I was just sort of overwhelmed. And then it wasn't until I left the hospital. I was walking out the front doors of the hospital. And I just, the waterworks. You lost it. It just really upset me like I sort of became, because it not only, it was not only was Rodney, but it was also just, you know,

you think about the mortality of yourself, of your friends, friends, you realize, like, you go about your day and you just realize, you think life is here perpetually. And then when you see, when you see it ending, when you see the candles starting to dim, and then it's gone, it's, and you, you knew he was, the state he was in, I, I, I don't want to sound grim, but I didn't think he would be able to recover, you know. It was that bad. And that was part of it. I was like, God, this guy that just made everyone laugh, and the legend he left behind. And it was, yeah, I just, I just lost it.

It was, it was tough. Yeah, I started thinking about that stuff. I'm at the age where it's like, you know, my mom's 75. My dad's in his 70s, you know, my grandma's, I'm lucky to have her around. She's 94. And I'm like, and I feel like if you start to really think about things, you know, people die in their 50s. Yeah. People have heart attacks.

My friend Phil almost just died. They removed like half his liver or something. What happened? He had cancer. Oh, God. All of a sudden, you know, it's life's like that. And we take it for granted and we, you can't obsess. No.

You can't sit here and everyday think, oh, this could be it. But you do have to sort of think about living your life and really trying to find purpose and enjoy it. Yeah. I mean, actually I talk about it on the podcast all the time. Your podcast. Yeah. Tell them the name of your podcast. Well, I have two podcasts.

One's called Insidy with Michael Rosenbaum. Yeah. And it's really talking to celebrities about, you know, facing adversity and life and anxiety and real stuff. Yeah, you go deep. People open up. They really open up and it's, you know, people, I guess they like the podcast. So check out inside you. They love the podcast.

It's doing great. And I'm going to say this because I watch it. I've seen a lot of you've been on it. I've been on it. And I've seen some of the episodes too. And I would also say that you love to go deep into people. But I also recognize that you almost use it as a form of reverse therapy for yourself. I do.

Because you go in and you love to talk about. your emotions and feelings and I notice you go into people get what they have going on and then you bounce what you have off of them and it becomes this reciprocal almost like a therapy session it's really interesting because I think but I learn from people oh yeah I can see the wheels turn and I know you so well like I'm like what works for you what are you doing that makes you work and I if I'm finding that information it could be helping me it could be helping listeners yeah and so like you know I had one guy Stephen Amel who's the arrow he had a an anxiety attack on the podcast.

And he let me keep the podcast. Oh, did he? So you hear him having an anxiety attack. What does that sound like? For people who've never had one, do they, is it like jitters? Can you see it? Your body tingles. It's different for everybody, but I get overwhelmed.

Your heart rate is fast. You could start to sweat. You feel like you're going to pass out. You feel numb. You get tunnel vision. There's a lot of different anxieties that people get and, you know, physical manifestations. But like he, yeah, well, he just,

looks at me and goes, Keep gone. Harlan, are you okay? Are you having an anxiety attack, sir? I am. Are you okay, sir? He looked at me and just goes, Hey, Rosie, uh,

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He goes, I just don't. I think I should go. I think I got to go. Wow. And I can relate to that because there's been moments. Even in the beginning of this podcast, I get anxious. What, for this one? Even right here, when we started, I started to get a little anxious.

Really? I started to get a little anxious and I stopped myself and said, this is Harland. I knew you would. You even told me earlier in the week. You're like, I might not. come up because I'm feeling a little anxious and yeah and I've known you what 20 years now yeah I just went the minute he sits down that's going to go away because we're like an old coat for each other I mean that's why you want to hear a little secret yeah let's hear it I opened with the let's sing

to each other thing because I knew it would be therapeutic and and and bring you into the comfort yeah well you know what thank you yeah thank you hard I think deep too man yeah helping me relax This is what buddies do. This is what friendship is, buddy. We've been friends for over 20 years. Started with sorority boys, and it's continued on through the decades. If you've got anxiety, find a good friend like Harlan Williams. He'll be there for you.

He'll sing to your heart, and he'll make you feel good. It's the Harlan Highway. Great. I'm having an anxiety attack. You built me up too much. Actually, I think that's a koala attack. Get me some eucalyptus. That's what they eat.

They eat eucalyptus. And that's why they nap all the time. Yeah. And apparently they're drunk all the time. Sound familiar? What do you? Nothing, nothing, bro.

I didn't even run up on you and do a Rambo. On Gatorade, that's what I do. Hey, I got my two eucalyptus. They're going to do your podcast anymore. I love when it gets mad. You know, I was on set with him. I got the... Wait, you, wait, hold on.

And Michael was in Guardians of the Galaxy. I was in Guardian of Galaxy, too, and that's all I could say right now. That's all that we can say. But, uh, and you worked with, I worked with him, he was so, Sylvester Stallone. He was so sweet. He was so great to the crew, so great to everybody. Looked at me, we talked about back surgeries and stuff. Like, you had back surgery?

I'm like, yeah, I've had like seven spines. He was seven, like, who's your doctor? And I said, oh, it's this guy. I got the same fucking doctor. No way. And we started talking about stuff. What? So I, there was just one moment where I saw him get a little, you know, a little, just testy.

But not with anybody with, it was like the person who works with him or his friend. He had a friend with him. And he just goes, Frank, the fuck will be. That's his brother, isn't it? No, he has a brother, Frank. But it wasn't Frank, but it wasn't Frank, his brother. And it was just, it was just a moment where he was annoyed. He goes, get the fuck away.

What are you doing? Whoa. And it was just a little thing. And I was like, whoa. I mean, everybody's got an edge. Everybody, I lose my shit all the time. He didn't lose his shit, but it was very, like, quick. It's quick.

Can I tell you a story? I saw Bruce Willis do that. When I was on the set of the whole nine yards, we were doing a scene where, remember Michael Clark Duncan from the Green Mile? Sure. Love him. I love him. So there's a scene where Bruce Willis has shot me to death,

and they bring the corpse. my corpse into the front foyer of this big kind of house where Bruce is living in the movie. And Michael Clark Duncan's carrying me in and Matthew Perry and Amanda Peter there and they throw me on the floor, the corpse. And we do the first take and, and Bruce stops after the director yells cut and he goes, he goes, man, it's kind of bright in here. He goes, you know, all the lights are on in the lobby of the house and uh we're bringing a dead body in what these lights won't be on and the the director jonathan who's an older british guy's like it's okay bruce it's all right it'll be fine this is the way i want it and bruce was like no this is too bright it doesn't make

sense we're we just we're bringing in a body and he's like it's okay bruce and bruce just goes can i see you over here in in the office and everyone just went like And he did that- There's just a moment. He did that die hard, like that sideway. Can I see you? You know, that. Eddie, they go, you know, it was a rented house. The lights went down.

And they go in the den. They're in there for about five minutes. And we're just, every, Michael Clark Duncan, you know, fucking Matthew Pair, the whole crew, we're all just standing there. The door opens, Bruce and the director walk out. And the director goes, let's shut off the lights. and everyone just front of it was like it was like it was the cool like it was just like Bruce is not letting this go yeah it's but it was also like not that I'm I'm disparaging the

director but it was just it was really be cool to see witness to that moment I saw Clint Eastwood kind of oh tell tell there we go I was working at midnight in the garden of good and evil oh and um you know spacey Kevin was just asking some questions Clint He's like, Clint, am I walking in the, no, do you want me to walk to the side or do you want me to walk in the center? He goes, well, whatever you want to do you, it's fine. And he goes, yeah, but do I, and he kept asking him question. He goes, God damn it, whatever you want to do, I don't give a shit. Did he?

Yeah, it was just a quick snap. It was like, God damn it, whatever you want to do. To Spacey. Yeah, it was a big actor. And it wasn't like he was just, it was just, you know, he was just. You know, Clint was, and he wasn't that old. To me, he was old at the time. And he was only like 67.

Yeah. At the time, 64, which isn't old. But then it was old to me because I was in my 20s. Yeah, yeah. God damn it, whatever you want to do. Yeah. And he just kind of lost this stuff. But most of the time, 99% of the time, he was just very delicate.

He was like, Michael, if you just want to acknowledge the jury on this take. Yeah. He was beautiful. Everyone I've ever seen interviewed, like from, from Mad Day. Amen to, you name it. They always go, yeah, I was on set with Clint, and we're waiting to do the scene, and Clint just walks in, and he's like, why don't you go ahead? Like, he doesn't even say action.

Yeah, he just does this. He looks at his Jack, I forgot his last name, but Jack's his DP, his director of photography. Yeah. And he just goes like this, he goes, Jack, which means roll. He doesn't even say action, doesn't say, he doesn't even say roll goes. No, I think you meant Jack was crazy. He was like, Jack, you're fucking nuts. You need fucking therapy.

Get off Michael's podcast immediately. Get out of here. Oh, I got it. Can you tell this story, though, because it's one of them. And then I want to tell them how you and I met. But you did a movie, I think it was called Pool Hall Sharks or something. Full Hall Junkies. And you met Christopher Walk.

And you, he, you know what's funny is I told the story. So maybe it's happened before with people where he does this. But Christopher Walk and I went up to him and I said, I'm so excited to work with you. And you never met him. You're just getting on set. I'm a big fan. She's really exciting to me. Huge star.

You're a huge star. Should I call you Chris or should I call you Mr. Walken? And he looked at me, goes, I don't know. Call me Flash. And he fucked off. He just walked away. Call me Flash. It was the most, it was the weirdest thing in the world.

The best, the best. He was a weird guy. Only he could say that. Did you call him Flash after that? Yes, I actually called him. You did. Well, it was funny. because I go flash flash and he wouldn't look to me finally I was with my friend Anson I was like watch this

I got an inside with with Walker and he got flash what's up and he just goes what what imagine he looked at you and call me Christopher call me what mr walking yeah he just didn't he like he completely like dissed me and I was like what the hell then I had him sign my king of New York DVD at the time and he's about to sign I go could you put two Michael and I don't it was 2000, it was in 2000, I go to Michael, to Michael, you know, from Christopher Walken, he looks at me like, I know what I'm doing, you know, Chris walking. I go, and then I go, and then he put two zero zero zero and goes, 2000, 2000, just like then I go, yeah, 2000, that's what we're doing it.

He just was an odd guy. I remember he said he's a dancer, and he had his shoes, and you could always see his toes crunched up in front of his feet. Oh, you're sure he wasn't a geisha girl? Or a Wizard of Oz. Yeah, where the legs roll up. By the way, have you ever orgasm so hard your legs roll up? Not yet.

Like the house fell on you? I wish. Oh, someday when you just have your moment and those legs curl up. And you've got to wear the black and white striped leggings, too, to really make it work. housekeeper walks by. I know. Their last day here, quit. But tell them, I want to tell

the story where we first met, because we did it, me and Michael met on a movie called Sorority Boys that we did. Sorority Boys, you know, people love this movie. If you want a good laugh, you want to sit back, people really do, they come up to me at convention, they come up to me in the streets, sorority boys,

it's all my favorite movies. It became a cult. It didn't do all the box office. Yeah, no. It didn't make us any money, but the movie people enjoy it? It made us more than money, my friend. It made us a lifelong friendship. That's where the money is. We became really great friends.

And I was a fan of yours to start. I remember going, I said, you know, somebody said who's in the movie, my friend Matt Ballard. And I said, Barry Watson and Harlem Williams goes, what? Harlem Williams is hilarious.

And I go, yeah, dumb and dumber. Something about Mary, went on and on. And I go, yeah. And when I met you, I just was like, you're so naturally funny. You're just a goof. You just want to have fun. I went to DeVry, bro. It's not natural.

I studied at DeVry for years to be funny. But you're the person you want to be around in life because you don't take life always. That's seriously. I've seen you cry. I've seen you have moments. I've seen when your mom passed. I've seen serious moments that many people haven't seen. Real Harlan.

but for the most part Harlan is just trying to enjoy life and I'm like I want to be on this roller coaster where I want to take this ride and we've taken a lot of rides together. Oh, we've had some goodies. Oh, you got me to Burning Man, I didn't want to go. You got me to go to the Amazon, I didn't want to go. You've pulled me out of my

what do you call it? Comfort zone. Yeah. You really have and I appreciate that. I call it your coma actually. My coma? Yeah. Well, it's sort of a coma. No, I'm kidding. You're one of the most sounds like we're like stroking each other now,

but you're one of the most like vibrant friends I have. Like you always are doing things. Like a lot of people I know, it's like, you know, they'll go, they'll go a few months. You go, I'm going to a party or I'm going to a concert or I'm going to an event or you do stuff almost every freaking week. You're at a concert.

Well, I think I've slowed down a little bit. I think I've slowed down a little bit, but I want to start doing a little more. In fact, I had, we talked about it, but I had an anxiety attack on Sunday night. So people came, we went to Bucca to Bepa for my birthday, and we had a back room. And I felt back because I didn't go because like 10 of the people had COVID recently. Well, yeah, but they had gotten over, but I made everybody test and everybody was nervous. So I'm taking them out on my own for dinner.

I still, I still owe you a barbies. But I got on these meds for anxiety. Okay. And they didn't work. Oh no. And they exacerbated my anxiety. to the point where I at the at my own gathering the birthday party I was struggling oh no oh dude I wanted to run out of there I was tingling and like gonna pass out and like I can't do this I can't I told everybody

there I'm having an anxiety attack I don't know what you did and not not a lot of people knew I hope no one jumped out of a cake because you probably would have a stroke happy birthday oh but it was look but here's here's the thing now I got off the meds and I'm not on any meds right now and I'm feeling a little better but what I've done is I'm swimming every day I'm taking walks every day with my dog you're walking now walking I tried to get this guy to walk with me every day during two years of COVID he goes I hate walking we went on one walk we went on two walks we went on one walk past the Jared Lado's secret compound in the hills now he did also walk around your compound twice we went on two that's one walk a year to Mr. I love to walk you're welcome and by the way he

You're welcome. Thank you. He takes me past it. I guess it was an old U.S. Air Force, like radar base or something. They built in the Hollywood Hills. And it's like this weird, like 1960s. It looks like a nuclear. And Jared Lato bought it. At one point or something.

Yeah, it was so bizarre. It was Harper's. But anyways, before we go into our adventures, you got it. I don't know if you want to reenact it, but I'm going to tell this story. When I met Michael for the first time, on sorority boys. We had to do what's called a table reading. So all the actors and the people involved

have to come into a big boardroom and we sit around the table and we literally read the script out loud. It takes an hour and a half to read an hour and a half script. Do you get nervous during those? A little bit. I was nervous because they can fire you. Yeah, that's the thing.

It's like you're reading the part. You're not acting the part. And I feel like if they don't like the sound of the reading, they'll fire you. I've heard about people getting fired and table reads. My buddy John Heater got fired off a, it was like a Will Ferrell Adam McKay pilot because of a table reader.

Yeah, he was, he was a Napoleon Dynamite. He was Napoleon Dynamite. You don't fire that guy. No, you don't fire that guy. Yeah, it's a little intimidating and not only that, but you're meeting all the other actors and stuff for the first time. In a lot of cases, you're meeting the director.

Right, so there's no real chemistry yet. Yeah, there's no... And then you're reading a part that, you know, you probably haven't looked at the scripts since you auditioned like, you know, five months earlier. Well, I prepared. You don't always prepare like that. I don't.

But at any rate, it is, it isn't, I do get a little freaked out by it. But I'm like, you know what? I'm here. They cast me. Let's go. Why do you have garbage bag on your notes? Oh, that's, I want to ask you about. All right.

You'll see. I want to ask you. Go back to the table. It's one of my favorite stuff. One of my favorite funny moments of my people. I don't want to be part of it. You're cutting it out. No, you love it.

Jesus. But anyway, so Michael walks into the, Barry was our, Barry Watson, the other sorority boys was always. The best, the best, good, the best looking, sexiest guy in Hollywood. This guy could have had any girl he wanted. He probably did. And then Michael walks in, I was already there, and Michael walks in last, and you, first thing you did before you even said hi, you had your hand under your shirt. And I've never heard anyone make better fart noises.

doing this, but you just walked in, like, do it. This is how I meet this guy. I have not matured. I'm 50 years old, and I do all of the farts. You know what's funny about that when I was in Indiana, America's funniest videos had an audition, and my brother and I saying, like, root off the red notes.

reindeer had a very shiny nose all over the other and we were just armpit far together we thought for sure we're getting on and they didn't get on oh we had to wait i had to wait for fame gold go so that that was my introduction to michael people just turned off before he even said anything he walks in doing this what did you think oh i was like part of me was thought this guy's obnoxious but he's also hilarious and i thought here we go and then me you and barry had the funnest chemistry on that. Like out of all the movies I've done, that one I laughed the most.

Like with the other actors, it was just like we were... Yeah, we even tried to get sorority boys too going about a couple years ago and we couldn't get it going and we just wanted to do it for low budget. We had some ideas and really funny story. And I think mostly I wanted to do it because, again, I still haven't had that much fun

as I did on that movie. Yeah, it was a blast. It was glorious. Every day was a riot. It was why when you're in college or high school, when you're dreaming about fame and being in movies, you know, you don't think about money and all these,

you think about just being in the movies. And when we were on, that's what it was. It was just this excitement of just making each other laugh and making the crew laugh and running around and drag. It was an absolute treat, man. I miss those days. There's a lot of scenes in that,

movie where if you watch the movie closely you can see us like laughing it looks like we're in character oh yeah there's there's moments when you go when you had the roofy thing you go you see i want you to take this little thing right here i go is that a roof and you're like no this is not and i'm just and if you look at the back of my head you can see my lips going yeah and many times in that movie and by the way that was our first scene that we shot yeah because i remember i went oh my god these guys are cracking up, and this is our first scene. I couldn't stop laughing. I know.

The director called me by my last name. Wally Waldarski goes, Rosenbaum. Yeah. And I go, I'm sorry. I know. We were dying, and I thought if this is our first scene and we can't get through it, I was like, I thought we're in trouble, but we're going to have the best time. And we did.

Oh, yeah. We got through it. Best time. If you haven't seen it, it's worth a shot. It's worth it. Stream it. Stream it. Watch sorority boys.

just have a good time. Stick your head in an air fryer. Couldn't get away with it today, that movie. No, there's some stuff in there. It's a shame, too, because you should be able to get away with it. It's art. We're redeeming ourselves at the end. We're redeemed.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if we redeem ourselves. If it's art and you're portraying something that's vile or over the top or that's what you need to do, movies is the place to show that stuff because we can't show it in real life. Like, you know, like in guys shooting up a room or all. monster. It's like that's what movies are for to imagine the things we can't do in reality. Boy, that was deep. Deep. Let's get back to some of our adventure. Here we go. Let's do it. Let's talk about some of our adventures because we had some such cool ones. We went down to the

Amazon. I had planned a trip to the Amazon and I'd already booked it. And one day we were shooting a breeze and I told you and you said, I want to go. And I said, really? And you said, yeah. So, You can't, we booked you on it. We went to Peru. We went to Peru and then we went down. We got a small plane and a small, we drove into the, into the jungle, and we got on this, this boat that held about, I don't know, 30, 20 or 30 other people.

And we spent a week cruising down the Amazon River. Fishing for piranhas. I caught a piranha. You caught piranha. I caught a piranha. We went, we went hunting for, Cayman, which is a smaller. You brought a Cayman up from the boat, didn't you?

I had my hands on one, and it got away, but the guy that was with us caught one and let us hold it. I don't think you held it, but I did. It looked a little bit rough. Yeah, it's scary. I mean, it's a big crocodileian. Yeah. And so we have video of it, but one of my,

maybe I'll put it on the podcast. Watch right there, watch, watch, watch, watch, watch. You see guys? Now you can see birds profile there. They have 72 T's in their upper and the lower jaws and they lose their teeth 45 times Okay, no worry. Right there. Close to the face.

Right there. A little average face maybe. The Cayman. That's the Cayman. This Cayman can approach size up to six feet long, so they grow close to two meters long. So this baby... Don't want to cover that neck, George. Yeah.

Caught a caiman, that's not a meter and a meter. This is a minute. This is a meter. Caught a cayman on the Amazon River. He's not kidding. And that blood in his sleeve is not his. That's not helping. Let me just feel his legs.

That's what she said. The tail, this is... One of my favorite videos is... They caught a nine-foot anaconda. Oh, yeah. And remember we took each turn, we put it around our necks. Yeah. That was a little scary.

That was a little dicey. I got the anaconda in the Amazon jungle. You want to grab their hands? You got it. Gently from the back. Yeah. Yeah. Don't press.

Don't put pressure. Okay. Okay. There we go. Don't let it get out. Wow. Are you okay, my friend? I feel good, I feel good.

All wrong, oh, what is he doing? I think you're strangling the anaconda. Don't put pressure on the head. Be careful, bud. All right, George, get that thing away from it. Okay. Let me have you with that, though. You got him?

Yeah, yeah. Oh, his teeth are out, I think. I think. You're in the middle of nowhere and they're asking you to do this and you I asked to do it. You shook your pants and I said, did I do it? Did I do it? You didn't want to.

And I said you, I said, Michael, I'm doing it. Look, it's okay as long as you, you know, they told us how to hold it. I said, when you look back on this trip, you want to see yourself. When you're 85 in Iraq, you want to have footage of you holding an anaconda in the Amazon. And you did it. And then the other end of the spectrum. We were in this little village in the middle of the Amazon and this little family came up in a boat and they had caught.

a wild sloth. Oh, yeah. Remember? And it was the kid's pet. Yeah. And you were holding it, and we were holding it. And it was like, the look on your face, if I can find the footage, I'll put it in the podcast.

It was wild. It was wild. It was so cool. Yeah. I'm in the Amazon rainforest, we're on the Amazon, one of the local, one of the local villagers handed me his baby sloth

and he's just almost as adorable as me right little buddy right oh nose kisses nose kisses that was a wild trip man and I thank you for

for helping me explore the world oh it was great you know some of my favorite moments was just us wailing down the Amazon because there were smaller motorboats attached to the big boat and during the day we do day trips. Yeah, but look at this. We're on the actual Amazon River.

Swimming, remember us? We swam in the Amazon. We swam in the Amazon. We dove in our underpants. In our underpants. And looking back, man, I mean, piranas, camans. Yeah, and they said there's a little bacteria thing that can get into the tip of your penis.

and, like, you can get really sick from it, but I kept thinking about that. Hello? Can we not get X-rated here, guy? Nurse. Anyway. Wow, just derailed the whole guy goes, tip of the penis.

Yeah, I had to go penis. Just froze. But, yeah, one of my favorite moments, and you were asleep for it, so you don't know. I hope this is all recording. So far, slow good. sloth good but um

we were wailing down the river in these motor boats and you were like you were like so into it you were so chilled and I just looked over and you were like asleep and I see the jungle whipping by

and I pulled my camera out and I just got a shot of you just had this sort of content grin on your face and we're wailing down the Amazon it was the rainy season so the river were high where we could actually take the boat through the jungles. Yeah. And you were just like sort of half passed out.

I'll see if I can find the video. I love, it's one of my, I don't know why. It just, it was something really peaceful. And it's like, here I am with my buddy. We're a million miles away from our reality. Like we just talked about where we met. Hollywood, the glitz, the glamour, the politics, the chess playing. It's a tough game here in Hollywood.

And here I was with one of my best buddies, just, just, just, just wailing down the Amazon. Just being, yeah. Here I am the one that you love, asking for another day, understand the one that you love. Wait, let me do it up first. That's a supply, geez, Louise. Well, I don't like, if you're going to do a second verse, I need to do a second pop so do you want to do the second verse understand the one that you love loving and so do you have a nice like cleavage do you think i mean there's a nice dent in there no it's is it gross

i don't think it's gross no i'm not repulse call me flash call me flash flash he is the flash today never seen you so flashy i've never seen you so fleshy jeez Louise no thanks I'm busy for the rest of garbage bags so i got to talk about i write little bullet points on my on my list yeah sure but i knew i wouldn't need them because me and you we've been we've been i mean we do we did an two 11 hour like trailer drives to burning man so we we can talk for for eternity but one of my favorite moments like i said michael loves to have people you loved have people at your house oh yeah i remember You know what it is. Look at his face.

So, we, you know, Michael's got this great group of friends, and they're my friends, but I know them mostly through Michael, and one day we were in his kitchen. And Michael was, you know, changing out the garbage can in his kitchen. The plastic bags. Yeah, the white plastic bags. And you know when you have to get the air in them, you snap them? And there was these two girls standing there drinking beers. And Michael just turned and went, snap, right?

And they were like, they just jumped. It was like, this thing filled up with air. And it was just like, there was something so hilarious about it. If I, I'm thinking of, if I ever get a chance to put that in a movie, I'm going to put it in. There's something so funny about it. It was so surprising. It's so, and it's so loud. It's like, it's like a firecracker going off.

Yeah, yeah, I remember that. And no one expects the host in their home to walk up to a guest in your house and snap a garbage bag in your face. Yeah. A glad garbage bag. bag, which made them unglad to be there. Oh, they were friends. They got it. I know. They loved it. But it just, I don't know why that cracked me. So then, so we go to the Amazon. Then we go to Burning Man together. And you know what? I'm going to ask you if

you want to do this, because this could be cool or not. You tell me, we shot the whole thing. And I made a documentary film called Burning Man. And it's, it's literally, it's a chronicle of Michael and I's journey to Burning Man. It's like an hour and a half. Yeah, you've always wanted to air this, and I'm like, I think it's more personal. Well, it's very intimate, and that's the purpose. Well, most documentaries are. They're very personal.

That's what, it's a journey. You go on the journey with us. So what I was going to say is maybe there's little clips we can air on our Patreon or something. Yeah. Or if you wanted to put the whole movie up on your Patreon, that's an idea we can talk about. Join my Patreon. I'll email you back. Patreon.com slash inside.

of you. Right, but it could be the only place where people could watch the whole movie. We can talk about it. I'll talk about it. Yeah. Because there's some, definitely some clips that there's some emotional clips when I, you know, my dog went blind. My dog, or if he passed away now. Two days before we were supposed to leave. But two days before we go, he went blind. He had some procedure and the pressure in his eyes. He just went blind. Yeah. And it was very emotional for me. And I was like, Harlan, I can't go. I can't go. And Harlan said this is actually the time you should go leave your dog with your assistant Jess and she'll take care of them

there's nothing you can do and we'll go there and we'll celebrate and we'll pray you know and we had this stuffed animal that looked like Irv and we took it with us and there's this temple at Burning Man that you bring people bring pictures of their loved ones that have passed away or that are sick and they pray and it's kind of an emotional

cool thing. Yeah it's a non-denominational like they build it a giant temple and it's just spiritual. It can be religious it can not be religious and we brought the dog a stuffed animal there and uh we prayed we prayed that he got his sight back and and i'm telling you you don't have to believe me after praying for the dog and reading a little poetry and little poems that harland made and we were with this girl was uh her diane yeah d'an was awesome love diane yeah and we went back to my trailer and i i walked in and my phone

rang and this is an hour after we pray and we're not getting any signal where we are and by the way we prayed hard we were we were huddled we were crying we were like please bring the sight back he loves his dog and jess answers my assistant answers and says irv can see yeah to this day i feel the emotion she showed video of him chasing a ball it was miraculous when we left for burning men erv was walking into walls walking into walls couldn't walk i mean at all here's why i want people to see burning men folks i filmed all of this Like, this is a special, like, I think, I think you're worried. At least the scene. I think there's a scene.

There's some things that I'm not crazy for people to see. Like what? I don't remember. I have to watch it again. You can send it to me again. I think what you, because you looked at it as a filmmaker and an editor. Well, more is it. And there's some scenes that are long and, but I purposely want them to be long because I want

people to have the kind of the road trip moments. Send it to me again. I want to see it again now. Wait, you don't still have it? I don't, I don't know. I have it somewhere, but I want you to send it. I want to watch it. Well, even if we don't show the whole movie,

and now they're going to want to see it. But even if we just show some scenes, it'll be someday someone's got to see the whole movie. All right. I think maybe when you're older, you'll look at it again and go, oh my God, that was such a fun moment in my life.

Maybe it's still too fresh for you. I don't know. Maybe I want to watch it again. I want to watch it because I'm excited to watch it. Yeah. So I think it, I think people would enjoy it. But it was an experience, by the way.

Burning, man, I didn't want to go for many reasons. And I was kind of scared. I'm not like that way. Yeah. And everyone says that. And I'm telling you, to this day, I think it was the best three days of my life. You, Michael originally didn't want to go. I had to sort of twist your arm a little, but then to your credit, you went, you went, you

went, you know what, I'm gone. And I was so happy because all my other, if everyone has the same attitude, I'm not going, I'm not going. You got over the hump. A guy who said I don't want to go initially, I can't tell you probably 20 to 25 times while we were there out having the time of our lives. You just stopped. We could be jumping up and down. You just stopped.

I went, buddy, I love you, man. I want you to know this is the best time I've ever had in my life. Like you said that to me many times. And I said it back. We just had a ride. I mean, I remember just laughing on our bikes going four in the morning. trying to find our trailer and just riding our bikes with lights on them and going just laughing and hearing you in the distance say your wife and I'm just going oh my gosh what's that giant

octopus over there what's this people are just everybody's just it's like it's like if the world were in love yeah the whole world just got together and said hey man love it's love it's it's art it's acceptance it was just it's like it's like landing on another plan it was fun it was fun. I hope we go back one day. Yeah, I think we should. Maybe how about next year? Yeah, we've talked about it. Next year, I think we should. Next year, I think we should. I won't, I won't shit so many times in your, in your trailer. It's all right. I think that turned you off a little bit. I could be better. I could be a better roommate. Good. That's all I needed to hear. I want to do, I want to do it anyway, whether you crap a lot or not. No, I'll go to the other chitter.

It was too much fun. It was too much fun. Too much love and fun. To let that stand, to let your movements get in the way of a good time. Wow. So this is the story about my second trip to Burning Man, the Burning Man Festival. And I decided to ask one of my best friends, Michael Rosenbaum, to come with me. He reluctantly said yes. and for reasons you'll see, it almost didn't happen. He almost didn't come. But in the end, he did, and a lot of things happened. And this is our story.

Poor, Ir, he went blind, dude. Yeah, but he's going to be all right. They said there's a good chance, or at least a 50% chance. Heard in his own. he'll get his sight back after we do some inflammation. So he just has to take some pills, some eyedrops every day. And he's been cooping, he's been, you know, eating. We went for a walk today, two of the walks.

Dude, you know what I think he's going to bring his sight back is our journey to Burning Man. We're going to put a picture up in the temple and pray for him and send out, like, good energy so his eyesight comes back. Yeah. Come here, where you going? Oh, he just bashed into the suitcase. You didn't put the fucking suitcase in the RV like that.

Well, he just rammed into it. Are you okay? Oh, he really is blind. It's all right, baby, boy. Well, you put it right in the middle of his path. Well, I didn't know you to get wearing that. Right in the middle of his blind path. Almost like you wanted him to hit it.

I can't believe we're doing this man. Yeah. You're a little nervous, right? Well, yeah. You, about a month ago, six weeks ago, you said, buddy, let's go to the Bernie man, I wasn't into it, I have to admit. Yeah, you're in the middle of nowhere for like five days, supposedly it's cathartic, it's, uh,

it's embrace you, and, uh, I'm, I'm open. And we're gonna get your dog's sight back, dude. Most importantly. Let's go, you ready? Can you help me with this? I'm busy holding the camera. Well, someone's got to do the documentary. Selfish.

There we go, dad. Ready for this? So, after one of the weirdest packing jobs I'd ever experienced in my life, we headed towards Burning Man, a 537-mile shot straight north, from Hollywood to a dry lake bed on an Indian reservation in Nevada called Black Rock City. It's a grueling nine-hour and 32-minute drive, and that's not counting all the stops you make along the way. Our first casualty of having an RV, we couldn't drive through, because as you can see, people hit us out. The guy back there with the headphones, in the distance, he let us, like, order, and we're walking through the drive-thru. Should we pretend we're in a mime car? Like, you'd be the passenger, and I'll, like, hold the steering wheel.

Should I mind rolling down the window? I'm hot. Here we go, hang on, we're going, oh, oh, oh, how are you doing? How are you doing? Pretty good, man. I don't have a car. Oh, it's nice, I like it. I like the invisible pain you got going there.

I think you got a flat there. That's his weener. Flat weiner. Taking my first dump in the RV. Hey, Harlan. What? Guess what I'm doing? doing? I have a feeling I already know.

I'll take a guess. Taking a dump. Thank you. He was right. The Playa, a dry lake bed spanning over 200 square miles. Actually one of the largest flattest surfaces on planet Earth. The dry dusty bed of the former lake, La Hale, Haunton. 15,000 years ago covered in 500 feet of water. Now a vast, empty, flat lake bed covered

with a bunch of people like me and Michael looking for an adventure. Looking for a miracle for a blind dog. We're heading into Burning Man. Whoa, bro. Whoa. I mean, this is madness. Look, it's coming right across the road. We're about to go, we're about to go blind here in about five seconds, guys. See you in Oz. Like being locked up inside a fun house in the belly of an electric jellyfish. A mile across filled with fun, fantasy, and 70,000 free-spirited people.

This is a blast. Look at this. Burning bag. Can you believe I'm here? Rosie O'Grady. No one's watching this except you and me. Yeah, really. This is for me to you, Arlen.

Hey, buddy, I love ya. Love you, bud. I love you, buddy. I'll see you at the convalescent home in about 30. So we're taking Urf. Show me Irv, bro. This is Erv? We're taking Irv.

We're taking him to the temple to get a sight back. Going into the temple, there it is. We're going to try and get herb fixed up. Say some prayers. Get a sight back, bro. As we approach the mesmerizing temple, I could see Michael slowing down. This was a guy who never slowed down.

I knew Michael well, and I knew that this was throwing him off his game. The temple was powerful, a non-religious, non-denominational structure. where people of all kinds could just simply go and pray with whatever beliefs they had. It belonged to nobody, and it belonged to everybody at the same time. It was beautiful, mystical, spiritual, and maybe even intimidating. And somehow, with Dee in the lead, I felt like me and Michael were the lion and the scarecrow,

following Dorothy to meet the great and powerful Oz. You know that you love all of your creation so much and all the animals and so we just lift up earth and we pay for healing of his highest Lord. We know you can do all things and we know that you're the healer, the ultimate healer. and we just lift him to you, we ask him, hold him close in your arms and just look over him God. And when we return back, let him just be completely healed and so joyful and so happy and feeling amazing.

He's following the fucking ball, man. Throw it again, Katie. Throw it downstairs. Throw it over him. Yes! I never expected this, you know? Harlan, my buddy, was telling me, you gotta do this, buddy!

And I was like, ah, you know, I don't know if it's for me. It's for every human being. You got a heartbeat? And gurney man's for you. If you don't have a heartbeat, you don't have faith in something, you'll find faith pretty quickly out here. Pretty magical.

magical. We have 24 hours. I'm just like, are you kidding me? It's just, uh, epic. Epic is the man. There's the man. The spirit manifests itself in so many different ways. And to be honest, this was a part of the journey that I hope Michael would be able to recognize

and lay witness to. And boy, did he ever. I knew Michael would have no problem finding the fun here. But now we also found something much deeper. How many people know you're really alive? Yes. And so, in the end, maybe Irv was trying to tell us something. Maybe Irv was there to remind us that sometimes we all go blind in life.

Maybe Irv's blindness was a reminder to all. of us to take it all in, absorb, live, laugh, love, and joy before it all fades to black. Last thing I want to talk about, because this is one of our most recent adventures. Me and Michael rented a beach house down in Florida. We just wanted to get away. This was what, about a year ago, year and a half ago. Oh, yeah. We rented a beach house down in Florida right on the coast because we wanted to go fishing and stuff.

That's right. And just hang out. So we got this great place with a really long dock. And we were in swimming. We were diving for shells and seafood and stuff. Yeah, what did we collect? Scallops. Scallop.

Scallop diving and collect them in a bag. And it was beautiful. It was so fun. And then on the last day, we had made a lot of food. We had made like all these scrambled eggs and everything like that. Yeah. And it was our last day. So me being a wise guy, I go, I'm going to go throw this in the ocean.

So I went way down to the end of the dock. Through a bunch of scrambled eggs in the ocean. I have it on video somewhere. Have you done it? What is he doing? He's dumping a bunch of. Scramble eggs in the ocean. Through it in the ocean.

And then Michael comes out on the end of the dock and we're standing there laughing. Right where we were swimming too. Right where we were swimming, right? You know, we're howling it that there's an omelet loose in the ocean. And all of a sudden, like a nine-foot tiger shark swims right up at our feet. And we're just like, what the? This is where we were swimming yesterday.

It was terrifying. Yeah, it was pretty wicked. It was pretty wicked. And we filmed the shark. Film that we have the tiger shark. I mean, just crazy. There's sharks. Film them, film them.

Wow. Come on this way. That's a tiger shark, bro. Look at the big fish following them. Look at them. Wow. Oh, ho. That's my first.

This is where we swim. Another crazy adventure. I know, I know. What's our next to before we go? Why don't we kind of... Why don't you guys, they could chime in and say, you guys should do this. You guys should go here.

That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, if you guys want to suggest an adventure for me and Michael, because COVID kind of stopped us. The Florida thing was our last one, which is about a year and a half ago. Can we do that again? Oh, yeah.

We got to go find that church. We got more omelets to flip, man. We do. But, yeah, send suggestions for... for me and Michael, and then when we have you back, you're going to come back and do this again. Of course. We got to do more singing.

Yeah, I'm in. Before we go, Michael is so talented on so many levels. His band is a relatively new thing. You started that about three, four years ago. Of our second, Sunspin, we have our second album out. It's coming out in September. You can go online and look up Sunspin and listen to the album. I think you'll actually really enjoy it.

It's really fun. I'm telling you, I wrote Michael like a two-page. review when I heard it. I was like, wow. He did. Thank you. You blew my mind. Because I didn't know, I mean, I know you sing. I know you play guitar. By the way, Michael's the singer and his friend Rob. His lead guitar. But it's really good. I'm excited. What's the name of the second album? We have we, you know, it could be called, it never is what it is, but we don't know exactly yet. Oh, so it's that new. It's not even out yet. It's not out yet. It'll come out probably in September. It's the album's done, except for some harmonies. Okay. A couple harmonies. And, but you

you find the other album everywhere on Spotify. Do you guys have a website and stuff? Yeah, sunspin.com. You can get a bunch of cool merch. Yeah. And the podcast is called Insidy with Michael Rosenmom. You can find that anywhere on YouTube. I have a Patreon.

And the new podcast we started like a week ago. Tell them. Tell them. Tell them. It's a Smallville rewatch podcast with me and Tom Welling. Been getting great responses. And there's, we watch an episode of Smallville and then we review it and critique it. And people call in, and we have a couple episodes in the can, and I think it's going to be a big success.

I got to interject for a second here. I feel horrible. At the top of the show, I should have mentioned, Michael was one of the stars of the Smallville series that ran for seven years on television. This was Lex Luthor right now. There you go, folks. So I feel bad. I didn't say that at the beginning. I do. I feel really bad, and I think I'm having an anxiety. You okay? No, not really. Have you ever had an anxiety? Get me an omelet. Have you ever had an anxiety? Have you ever had anxiety? Never. No, I've never. You've never had anxiety. I'm not really. You never get really nervous about something? Do you want to hear my secret? It's really simple and stupid. This is what it's about. Okay. And then we're then we're going to wrap it up. But this is whenever I get to feeling down or I feel myself feeling down or I feel anxiety or I feel the thermometer rising, I literally, it's the simplest. I. It's the simplest. I. I don't know if I'm an idiot or a genius for it, but in my head, in your head, visualize an orange right now.

Do you see an orange? Yes. So what I do is in my head, you see that light switch on the wall? Yep. I visualize a light switch. And whenever something starts to go, I just go, no, I'm in control. This is my body. I'm in control of my brain.

You're not in control of me. And I visualize a switch and I go, click. and off I go, I just shut it the fuck off. You can do that. I can do that. You've always been able to do that. I didn't really need to do that until I kind of got into adulthood. Because when you're younger, I think it was too carefree.

But as you get older and you start worrying about money and relationships and your mortality and everything, politics. As you get older, your mind starts to explore heavier things. Just a little click. Did you just shut me off? Let me just get back on. There you go. And then so what happens is I do the thing and that, are you going to shut me off again?

No. No. So that's my, it's simplistic, but it works. Now, if something really monumental happened, like I rolled a minivan and hit a bunch of old ladies who were picking blueberries on the side of the 405 and smashed their faces in, that switch might have to be flicked a few times. But, you know, for the general stuff, yeah, I get through it.

Thanks for the insight. Yeah. That was helpful. I tried to breathe. There's like this, one of my guests on my show, and actually I've heard this a few times, a quick exercise for you. Ooh.

You breathe in slowly, four seconds. You hold four seconds and slowly let it out four seconds, and then hold for four seconds, and then continue to do it, and you will immediately feel better. Wow, that's a lot of seconds. It really helps just control your breathing. Focus on something else.

Relax. So that does help me a little bit. That's what I mean. Simple but effective. That's like my switch. Good. We each gave each other a little thing. A little present.

That's what buddies do. And I don't think, have you plugged everything you want to mention? Is there anything else? Oh, yeah. If you guys, you don't want to do, you know, check things out. Check them out.

If not, you don't have to. But this has been a real joy. They're going to check it out. I hope so. I'm telling you. Folks, it's been a pleasure. My buddy, we'll do this again. I'm excited.

We could talk about anything, really. We could. It's my buddy, Michael, Zachary Rosenbaum. That's it for the day, everybody. Until next time, chicken. Chow, Maine, baby. I click the switch, ready? Click the switch, ready?