The Harland Highway - NEW HARLAND HIGHWAY #24 - RICK GLASSMAN, Comedian, Actor

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

Rick discusses his new book about Charles Manson, and he also succumbs to a Rorschach test. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy info...rmation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're riding down the Harland Highway. All right, hold tight on the Harland Highway Show. Harland Williams. Let me see if your mic's gone. What the, no, you got to, you got to annunciate. Oh, could you hear me fine? Is this good? Yeah, okay. You knew you had to, like, talk into the mic, right?
Starting point is 00:00:27 You can't do silent horse whispers. on a horse. The way this is set up is a little intrusive, would you say? Yeah, I've got to rejigger it. I've got to move. Careful. I know, I know. Why don't we put that on that side?
Starting point is 00:00:42 I'll help you out right now. I'm going to do it, but I need to do it after I've had a healing. I could do it for you. I know, but I need to sit with like a shaman and integrate. What about a glassman who could then see you if we put it over there? A glassman? Yeah. By trade.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Wow, you are a glassman. Arlin. Hi. Oh, I couldn't see you. Because of this? Yeah. Well, that brings me to our wonderful guest here today. By the way, gang, let's hit the, you're ready for some theme music guy?
Starting point is 00:01:13 This Arro Speedwagon? Yeah, this is Ario's Speedwagon after the tour of us rolled. I don't know why I have my glasses on. I mean, either. Oh, wow. Cross-eyed Susie. Look at you. Have you ever heard of that wildflower?
Starting point is 00:01:29 A cross-eyed Susie? It's one of my favorites. Oh, wait, no, it's a black-eyed Susie. I don't like those as much. Yeah, they feel it's got kind of that battered... When you got a battered Susie, get a battered one that's cross-eye. When you got a battered Susie, better love the one that's deep inside. But when you love yourself and you love the Lord, you want to figure out what all was for.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And if you want to love who you got inside, then Baby, show what you're worth and have all the pride. We're talking lazy. Lazy, Susie. We're talking lazy. Lazy Susan. We're talking lazy.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Lazy Susan and only on the Arland, Arlen, oh, yeah. Oh, ooh. Bro. I love Ario Speedwagon. Aren't they the best one? They haven't been hip.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Their tour bus hasn't been. rolled by a train. I didn't know about that. Yeah, a train carved right through their tour bus, killed the drummer, and sheared the legs off the singer. Really? Yeah. Just a real rock and roll tragedy.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Like Leonard Skinner went down in a helicopter. Stevie Ray Vaughn went down in a helicopter. Ario Speedwagon plowed by the Midnight Express from Cleveland to New Mexico. Train 5709, too. are you um you know a lot about rock and roll huh just i'm a train guy and you know about the helicopters too well helicopters and trains are sort of linked they're very mechanical they uh they run off of oil gas diesel machine parts and so there's a real uh kinetic uh interrelation uh between uh the two various vehicles um harlan hey oh sorry this is a little bit
Starting point is 00:03:28 There it is. It's just a little, you're going to get a little blocked here and there. Oh, what was that? The wire was on backwards. Oh, because it looked like you were readjusting your scapula. Well, it does look like that, doesn't it? Do you fart? No, it's just your scapula. Oh, watch, watch, watch.
Starting point is 00:03:49 That way I could do it without a hand. Oh, wow. I do sometimes with my glasses. Like if my glasses are down, I could fix it with my hand, but you could also just go like this. Oh, the gopher. the gopher look yeah the prairie dog thing people when i was in uh middle school they would call me go for glassman oh yeah but i always thought they were like making fun that i was a receptionist and they're saying go for glassman oh wow they were calling me a gopher in middle school yeah and what
Starting point is 00:04:14 happened when you went to the school on the right they uh they they called me the same thing i mean i'm still known as this well what about all the school on the left never went although it's more important now than ever with what's happening in this climate politically you so you'll went to middle school and right school but not the left i went to middle school right school high school mr h that's where i get my nickname mr h oh yeah people think it's for mr harland but it's middle school right right but what's an mri because i've heard those letters before yeah that's that's a medical imagery procedure where you could then see within it's like an x-ray is just bones but MRI lets you see joints and ligaments from three-dimensional space it's done with magnets could it let you see a scapula
Starting point is 00:04:54 yeah but you would also probably do an x-ray for that i wouldn't maybe whoever you're referring to would. Whomever. Well, I don't, I go straight to things I want to go to, and I don't necessarily follow the protocol of interwoven technocrats. IRTC, yeah. But I go to my doctor, Dr. Hume. Doctor who?
Starting point is 00:05:16 Dr. Hume. Who? Whom. Oh, okay. First case. First case, really? You were his first patient? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Wow. So he's new. I mean, I went to him five years. ago so he's been doing it i mean i still go to him who whom who for a space um this is my guest uh rick glasman um and you're here did you're here on the harland highway guy yeah yeah what and what a trip it is so far so far it's beautiful view it is a beautiful trip do you like that you think i'm funny i swear i'm getting there right well you know that's that's that's kind of the theme of of of the podcast right yeah if you were already there what would we be listening to uh i don't know what
Starting point is 00:06:03 you listen to when you get there you're saying like when we get to heaven or when we get to hell type of thing wherever it may be a seal there's a cliche um that is uh appreciate the journey it's because that's what it's about it's not about the destination i would argue it's not not about the destination the destination is a variable but let's not pretend that the journey isn't a longer one and it's important yeah take take for example if can i just start Stop you for one second, and then if you could just spell cliche for me, because I'm hung up on that. C-L-I-C-H-E, but it's the one with a dash above the second thing. So it's German kloosha.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I'm not sure. I'm not, I'm not. Maybe you're pronouncing it wrong. Yeah, I- cliche, but maybe it's, when there's ever a thing, that thing, cliche. Yeah. Is probably the right pronunciation, but you're the author, you're the one who's written a book. Have you not written a book?
Starting point is 00:06:59 I have not written a book, but one of the things, Rick. I was going to say Richard. That's fine. Is that okay? Okay. One of the things, one of the many things Richard does, he's a comedian, he's an actor, he's a producer, and he's an author.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And one of the things I wanted to really jump into out of the gate today was your new book. I got my team on it, And I was just fascinated. It was such a good read. Pony Rides and Prostitutes. My childhood memoirs with my Uncle Charlie. Well, see, Pony Rites and Prostitutes originated from meeting with Dr. Hume and having all these procedures in MRIs. I had a procedure called platelet-rich plasma injection, PRP.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Oh, I've heard of that. Yeah, so with the PRP, Prone-R-R-R-Rich prizes, that's why I went that route. And I actually wanted to show you because I sent you the digital copy, but I have the image. the image for the back cover, my picture. Oh, this is for the back of your book. Yeah. I thought maybe you could put it up somewhere I could sign it when we're done. Yeah, let's show that to the five or six people watching here.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And this is... I thought they only listen. Yeah, some of them have to watch because they have eyes. And it's like, you know, they're born with eyes. And so sometimes they have to watch. But Rick Glassman, and let's talk about your book. A ponytail, pony rides and prostitutes. Memories of a childhood with Uncle Charlie.
Starting point is 00:08:34 And if you're okay, if I could jump in and just right out of the gate, read an excerpt. Yeah. This was. I want to make sure, because it isn't out yet, and I want to make sure we're not, what chapter are you doing? This is chapter one right near the beginning. I want to make sure that we don't, anything that's, because it is a four-act book. I want to just make sure we don't do anything from the second, third, or fourth act. So that's fine.
Starting point is 00:08:55 We won't. We won't. But, you know, I just found it such a fascinating journey that you, to know someone related to the Manson family, Charlie Manson, and that you were, he was your uncle. Well, he's a mindblower. We called him an uncle because he was, he was my uncle's best friend and we called them my uncles. But he's not blood related. But yes, I mean, I grew up Uncle Charlie. Well, your book maybe, I don't know if it spins a little bit of a different.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Did you finish it? I finished the whole thing. I couldn't put it down. Are you kidding? The stories of you. Will you bleat this part out? Sure. Will you really bleat this part out?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yes. That's why. Yeah. Now, after reading it, I see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, let me, let me just, Can I read this excerpt and then let's jump in. I've got a hundred and twenty-five million questions.
Starting point is 00:10:07 If I could just read, jump in and read an excerpt. Yeah. This is pony rides and prostitutes with Uncle Charlie. My childhood memoirs of my uncle Charles Manson by Richard R. Glassman. Glassman. Yeah. Here we go. I stood in the living room window.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Wonderment filled my youthful eyes as Uncle Charlie walked up the path to the front door. Just like every Thanksgiving, he always showed up last, the rest of the family pretending not to be annoyed. There was something about Uncle Charlie that was different. He wasn't like the other adults. He had a swagger, a charisma, a twinkle in his eye that made me wonder if Satan had red hair surrounding his burnt asshole. I remember when he would pick me up and hug me my cheruby face
Starting point is 00:11:00 pressing into the brittleness of his endless, wiry beard, my nose buried deep within the entangled, unkept whiskers growing from his face. It stunk in there, like the black leather miniskirts of a thousand Bakerfield streetwalkers. Like the sheets of a motel six bed after a big rig driver had all-night trucker sex with an overweight. runaway from Galveston or El Paso.
Starting point is 00:11:26 It whiffed of tobacco, Velcro, and even a hint of Burger King Whopper with cheese, but somehow I liked it. It was familiar to me. It felt like home. It felt like Thanksgiving. Even after the time he pulled me in so deep, I somehow got a corn nibblit stuck in my eyelid.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I still loved it in Uncle Charlie's Osprey nest of a beard. He was most certainly my favorite uncle. I mean, for our viewers, our listeners, how does a child have what turned out to be one of the most, I hope you're not offended by this because he's family, evilest people, well, I was going to say evilest people on the planet coming for Thanksgiving dinner into your home and just you being obviously enamored with him or charmed by him somehow?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yeah, well, um, I mean, it's Charles Manson, Rick. Are you getting emotional, sort of? No, it's just, I mean, most writers might have more word. You're kind of, if you could articulate anything at this point. I'm feeling I'm feeling empathy toward my younger self. Okay, okay, I see.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Why? You don't mind me getting deeper and entragonistic? Well, I didn't know anything what was happening. Right, you clearly didn't know my uncles. He was the family, your favorite uncle. And as I got older and I learned, I had a lot of shame about this. And in fact, writing, starting this project, I wasn't planning on sharing a book. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I was, my therapist had suggested I'd do diary entries. And it turned into a bit of, it was easier to tell it as a story, right? As if this was a story, is that this something wasn't something that my family and I experienced. If this wasn't something that maybe I didn't do wrong, maybe as a child, I was just living my life forward and not understanding. and to appreciate the idea that I can't understand, I understand something now that I didn't understand then. About yourself or about Uncle Charlie? About, about all of it, about, about the way the world works
Starting point is 00:13:59 and how we grow up in a bubble and we think that bubble is all that exists. And at a certain point, it's our responsibility to recognize that just because that bubble does exist, it doesn't mean there aren't other bubbles around. And I had a lot of shame and regret in thinking that, how did I not know what I know now? about Uncle Charlie? About Uncle Charlie, about my actual Uncle Rob. Okay. And their relationship.
Starting point is 00:14:23 And what could I have done different? Wait, are you experienced some kind of residual guilt, like for the actions of Charles Manson? Absolutely. You somehow feel beholden to his actions? I don't feel beholden to his actions. No, I do feel like, well, if I knew then what I knew now, now, would I have eaten the food that he brought? What I have welcomed him in?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Would I have trusted him? Would I have loved him? Well, on that note, if I can read the next excerpt where you're having Thanksgiving dinner, the food played a very important role, where it feels like that might have been what triggered you to understand what was beginning to evolve between you and him and the family dynamic. If I could do one more excerpt here, I think this sheds light on what you were just saying and probably maybe even more articulately than how you said it, even though you wrote this.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Oh, sorry. Yeah. And I know that you're being playful. Well, you as a person or a playful person, I mean. Well, it's more of a backhanded slap or slander. Well, I just felt that way. I just want to acknowledge the way you said how I'm not being articulate. Now, this is a story that I went through that is told.
Starting point is 00:15:42 in a way to be understood. And I'm just expressing just a, I haven't spoken about this yet. I know, but it's odd when you bring in the artist, the author, the writer, and the thing on the paper seems more articulate than the person who created it. And I guess I just... What the book is, is a sense of memory of the things that happen as opposed to the feelings I have today. This is from the point of view.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Right. And what's confusing, it's from the point of view as a kid told from the adult. Yes. So now here I am telling you the. point of view of the adult. So anyway, but continue. And it's very, very blurry. But let's see if we can clear it up a little with this next excerpt.
Starting point is 00:16:22 This is tough to read, but let's jump in. It was like this book. I mean, it kept me up all night. When? Oh, this was about three weeks ago. I was reading it. Have you been sleeping? It's been tough sleeping.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Since? I mean, well, it's just we're friends. I know you to know that you went on this journey with this uncle who, turned out to be one of the most vile human beings on the planet. Well, you didn't know him, but... No, but you did. And I feel empathy and compassion for my friend who lived through a trauma he didn't know was on its way.
Starting point is 00:16:58 I recall Uncle Charlie showing me a card trick once. Asked me to pick a card from the deck. Before doing so, I took notice of something on Charlie's hand and commented, is that dried human blood on your fingernails, Uncle? Charlie? I asked as innocently as an altar boy who just snuck a silent church fart out under his Sunday robe. My dad thought that that was funny, but my publisher told me that it sounds like making a joke, and I thought it did loosen it a little. Well, if I could maybe read
Starting point is 00:17:31 uninterrupted, that would... No, I'm just saying it might, because it's almost like you already wrote this and we don't need you. It's like you're trying to put glory on glory and Uncle Charlie's eyes turned as black as Satan's fallopian tubes, and he responded in a soft, almost seductive voice. I'm going to snap your femurs and suck the marrow out, like a hyena eating placenta off the back of newborn twins. I was both confused but enchanted by this unfamiliar banter, and it wasn't until later during the Thanksgiving feast
Starting point is 00:18:06 that Uncle Charlie's colorful words took on even more meaning. Charlie had requested a drumstick off the massive festive turkey, and when no one was looking, he snapped the leg bone in half and made his tongue dance like a Russian ballerina across the jagged splintered edges. Like a fleshy crimson serpent straight from Satan's vulva. Uncle Charlie's eyes filled up with can only be described as the maniacal gaze of a fat woman sniffing for cheesecake crumbs
Starting point is 00:18:38 in the folds of her own muffin top. For the first time, I started to wonder if Uncle Charlie's strange allure was more menacing than I had ever expected. If perhaps my favorite uncle, Uncle Charlie, could somehow hurt me. I mean, are you kidding me? Wow. I mean, I've got goosebumps. So without giving too much away, I do want to acknowledge the tone of what this book is. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:08 And I am using poetic license to instill some of the realizations and awareness that I was talking about that I have today then. Okay. So it's important to acknowledge some of the things that I remember are contextualized different through the eyes today. For example, he was talking about that stuff. But when he was making jokes and I thought they were about hyenas, I just was playing, listening to Lion King. And I didn't. And I'm now looking back and literally, literally filling in the blame. In fact, part of this process that I was doing with my therapist literally had blanks, almost madlibs.
Starting point is 00:19:43 And I filled it as much as I could remember. And I asked some family and friends. And then some of which just full candor was just filling in to get from here to here as most efficiently as I can with things that like the turkey, the turkey, for example. I remember it was something with a turkey. I don't remember if it was a leg. Snap. Yeah, I just remember the bone and something, yeah, like eating the devil's Volvo. The car.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And I think it's a revolve? Yeah, my publisher suggested that would make more sense. But I remember it being like the car. He was licking a car? Mm-hmm. Okay. Because he was looking, he was going like this. I was thinking like a steering wheel.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Okay, okay. Yeah. Some of these, sometimes when writers write books, they clear, like publishing edits up before they go to print. Oh, it is. This is ready to go. It is. This is, this is, this is, in the beginning, it's based on a true story and, uh, and true events, but not everything is real.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I mean, Charles Manson is filtered through the eyes of an innocent, uh, pimples, zit-faced child. I didn't have, I, my face, it wasn't, I had pimples, yes, but no more, no more than any, no more than anybody else at that age. I think, I look, you look like it might have had a lot. I understand. I didn't have that many pimples. Seems, I get the sense you had like, like, like, like, almost like a, a star cluster with pus and red welts?
Starting point is 00:21:10 No, I, you know, I, uh, I did, I did, uh, I did, uh, I did, uh, that process with those three steps you get at the mall. It starts with the C, I don't know what it's called, but you use the liquid blue stuff and then the cream and then the other thing and okay, clear a sol or whatever. Clear a cell. No, it wasn't that, but it's not like that. I used that until I found out that that's actually, you become reliant on it. And now I just use setafil at night once, I wash my face with soap once a, once a, once a day at night.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Uh, then I put rose water on some vitamin C, um, cereal. I use a red light mask every now and then. I mean, these are all indicators that of a child that had severe acne vulgaris. I mean, I'll go beyond acne and say acne vulgaris, which is the medical term for severe bumps and wells. I could get Dr. Hume on the phone and he will let you know. Who? Whom? I'm sorry, who?
Starting point is 00:21:55 No, no. His name is Dr. whom. My doctor is named Seymour Hume. How do you spell that? W-H-O-M. Oh, with the silent M. Okay. No. Who? Hey, everybody. Who wants to have better sex? No? Yes. Yes. The answer is yes. You always want to have
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Starting point is 00:23:28 Hmm. Whom? Are you saying, hmm? Or, hmm. Dr. Hume? Knock, knock. Whom's there? Who? Your doctor.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Dr. Hume. Okay. Have you seen the show, Dr. Hume? Yes. On the BBC? Yeah. That. But I never understood what BBC stood for.
Starting point is 00:23:52 British broadcast channel. Don't have to snap at me, I don't think. I'm sorry. It must have been. A little abrasive. I'm sorry. You know, I'm just trying to get information about the author here. I can see why you're sensitive.
Starting point is 00:24:06 You're ramped up. Your uncle wrote helter-skelter in a woman's blood on a wall. I can see why you're emotional. You're thinking of the Beatles. No, Charles Manson on his... I never knew that that was him. Well... Again, I was a child.
Starting point is 00:24:24 But we all were. We were. And this is what makes it so fascinating to me. And that's why... You know, I really was excited to have you on you. Because, yes, you're a comedian. and yes, you're a producer. Yes, you're a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:24:36 What else? I don't want to promote the other things I am. Well, you're an author, but I just find your mind goes a little deeper. It goes a deeper into the strata. It goes into the different layers of the lasagna, the lasagna that is your mind. Because it's a long highway.
Starting point is 00:24:53 That's what I really like about this show. Because there's a lot going on. Yes. A lot of lanes, too. So it's not just how far it is. It's how wide. You know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Because, like, I could give it. from here to here in a straight line, or I could weave. Now, weaving takes a little bit longer, but it offers, and the analogy would be more perspectives, weaving through the perspectives, weaving through the perspective, seeing through the windows of the other cars from the other sides, getting to the destination, not as quickly as you can, but as efficiently. You're getting a bit ramped up, and I'm sensing road rage here on the Harland Highway. A lot of people think efficiency is how fast you could get someplace. I think efficiency is how kind you could get there. See, these are the layers of the,
Starting point is 00:25:33 human lasagna or the mind that I wanted to get to with you. Yeah, which, you know, that's what an MRI does do. It shows the layers. And MRI doesn't just show the thing. Like, we could take this, this is from Rocket Man. We could take this and take an MRI of it and literally, like images, like if we were to slice it and see from the top or the bottom from all these different angles, MRI in a way, is a scientific practice of perspective. Yeah. An SPP.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Well, there's, again, another three-letter thing you're throwing out of me. T-L-T-Y-T-A-M. hello what's that mean uh legs on larry i have a friend who's a quadriplegic and just had new legs you know i actually um oh i'm aware of your book legs on larry oh thank you are you not speaking i i'd rather you know i do talk about it but this is uh this is your time and this is this is i really i don't have internet access anyway because i have it in my email but we'll have you back on the podcast oh i'd love to yeah Now, I wanted to, we talked about road rage, we just touched on it.
Starting point is 00:26:36 But also, I want to, like, talk about us a little bit. I do, too. And I'm curious, how has the response been since you've been on the Take Your Shoes Off podcast? People have been pretty freaking happy about it, huh? Well, is that what got you into this? I'll be honest, you were an inspiration. You were an inspiration. I wasn't doing my podcast before this.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And then you saw me doing it? You invited me on your podcast, which if you'd like to tell the folks about it right now, that you know about it. They know about it. That's why they're here. I'm just trying to be a gentleman and let you mention it because right now I've been so deep, heavy into your book. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:12 But no, you, you, you, uh, Rick, Richard. Richard Glossman. I was, um, I, I, I, uh, was inspired when I did your podcast because, uh, it was something I'd been flirting with in my head. And I hadn't been on a lot of podcasts. And when I went on yours, I had, such a fun time. And it was moving and inspiring. And so you're part of the reason that I'm here and the reason you're here. Yeah. Why are people so angry these days? I'll tell you why. Why?
Starting point is 00:27:49 I'll tell you why. Because back when we were kids, right? Yeah. There were only so many stages. And I mean that as a metaphor. There's only so many platforms. There were only so many megaphones. There are only so many microphones. There are only so many outlets that you could take in, right? Now, what's the guy's name from, he was in Third Rock from the Sun in Inception? Yes, it's a three name, Philip Seymour Hoffman, but it's not that. Michael J. Fox? No, it's something else. Jonathan Taylor Thomas. Samuel L. Jackson. No, what is his name? He was in Angels in the outfield. Joseph Gordon, Joseph Gordon. Jessica Park. Joseph Gordon. Yes. Now he did a Ted he did a TED talk and he was talking about the two sides of things where there is paying attention
Starting point is 00:28:34 and they're seeking attention and at a certain point seeking attention could be detrimental where paying attention allows you to fill your cup now what my point is when so many people have a platform to then seek attention to have their voice be heard right to have their voice be responded to it offers this this this this this this bubble where This becomes not only, not only more important, the only thing. Almost like when you were speaking of as a child, we were because we grow into adults, but we'd be foolish to not acknowledge the fact that we are all still children. Older, older children, older children, but children nonetheless.
Starting point is 00:29:17 So when you were in this bubble yelling, fuck, you know, fuck the Democrats. Fuck the Jews. Whoa. Then you have people that are either coming and saying, no, fuck you. or yes, fuck, whatever it might be. So you're either building this blind army or fighting against people that really are your brethren.
Starting point is 00:29:38 They really are your brethren. And you're insinuating that these soap boxes are virtual, digital, like you're talking about social media platforms. Now technology has offered that, but it's also within the public. That's what I'm getting out in the real world. There's anger out there.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Because we learn to communicate. We learn to communicate through, Wall, let me give you an example. Okay. Speaking of road rage. Yeah. Here we go. You're driving in your car.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Not you, somebody. Let's say somebody. I do drive. But let's put it away from you because it's easier to acknowledge if we remove the ego. And the best way to do this is to remove self. Well, I consider myself a good driver and I'm not going to put my tail between my legs because you don't want me to be a driver. Have you ever had road rage?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Have you ever yelled at somebody in your car? Then we'll use you. And if you're uncomfortable, we get out of this out. Okay. You're driving along. You're doing your thing. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:26 Listen into your rock and roll music. Well, I don't know if I jazzercise while I drive. Just your version of your thing. But rolling the shoulders, I don't want to be labeled Casey and the Sunshine Bandage. Okay. What about Casey and Jojo, where you just live in all your life? Okay, I can roll with that. I can shoulder roll with that.
Starting point is 00:30:41 So you're driving, you're doing your thing. Yeah. Okay, now you're doing Paul Abdul like head shuffles and I don't. Do you like cartoon cats? Yeah. Well, could you pay attention? Okay. Because I got something perfect for you coming up.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Meow, mix my twat hairs. So you're driving and then somebody cuts you. you off a little bit, okay? Sorry. It's okay. Edit it out. I don't know where that came from. You got me a little, as you can see, you're getting me a little amped up, but I'm staying
Starting point is 00:31:07 on the roller coaster ride. But that's okay. Instead of pretending like you're not amped up or feeling shame, except that these are the emotions you're having, let them pass through the highway, and you are accepted. Okay. This is the perspective. This is the weaving. This is real life, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Okay. And to pretend it doesn't exist is what these politicians are doing by pretending that their life is perfect when they're all fucking fucking cheating on their ones. wise. Yeah. All right. So you're driving down the street. You're doing your thing. Okay. All right. You're doing your thing. Well, I don't ride a horse. Never? Well, I have, but I have a proverbial fear of horses. Spell proverbial. P-R-V-I-B-R-I-L-A. I don't know. That just sounds wrong. Well, I'm not going to be mocked as the champion of the Bakersfield 43rd annual spelling bee. I'm not going to sit here at ASB and be mocked by my own guess. That's why I wanted to have some. somebody else instead of you, because you're letting your ego get in the way of how you drive.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It's hard. It's hard. You're rolling your shoulders. You're doing, she's a dirty, rotten snake by Paul Abdul. You're doing shake, shake, shake by Casey and the Sunshine Man, clearly taking a jab at my driving. We're talking about somebody else now. Somebody's driving down the street, right? Somebody cuts them off, right? And then instead of being, instead of being present with the person, they're literally by design alone by themselves. This person is not a person the way you empathize. This person is a vehicle, is an enemy, is an obstacle,
Starting point is 00:32:30 is an intrusion. So instead of handling it the way you would interpersonally go, fuck you, you miserable fucking cunt, bitch! And you get angry. Now, if you're in a grocery store and someone with a cart
Starting point is 00:32:41 goes in front of that same person, chances are that's not how you're going to respond because you see the person. We are learning to communicate through a wall. We are blind. We are at the keyboard, though we are more connected
Starting point is 00:32:53 than we've ever been, we've also become more alone. than we've ever been. So we have learned to communicate with people alone. Harlan, I'm making a really good point here. Well, you know, when you raise your voice, I start to wonder if you've got some anger issues inside. That's a great point.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Isn't it interesting how raising our volume could actually make us be less heard? And that's why it's important to be in the same room with somebody so you could learn. And now I could learn my voice. There we go. Because I don't know to turn my caps off if you're not here to tell me how you feel.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Well, I think I just articulated that you're... Exactly. Because here we are. Okay. Here we are. Okay. People don't express how they feel online. You know what they express what they hate?
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yeah. They express how much they want things to change, not by providing an example, but providing an anger, a resentment. That's the point I was making before the 10-minute ramble. Well, in conclusion, what I'm saying is people have learned, people are so angry because they've learned to communicate with other people alone. They don't get to feel. They don't get to connect.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Okay. So now when they're out in the real world, they're saying things like lulls. What is it? Loles. Loles. Loles. When I was a kid. I usually go to Home Depot.
Starting point is 00:34:09 You go to Lowe's? No, no, loles. Like laughing out louds. Oh, L-O-L-L-Z. So you're laughing and you have narcoleism? You fall asleep? It's just what people say. Well, you said L-O-L-L-Z.
Starting point is 00:34:23 that someone would be laughing, ha, and then, and then narcolypti. Sometimes. Cannibal is it. What is it when you fall asleep? Narcalypsy. No, thanks. I'm busy. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Now, Harlan, you're drinking a hot chocolate on a day that's over a hundred degree weather. Yeah. Is that because you're blessed with air conditioning? No, this is because you can cycle. If you could not perform fellatio on your Starbucks, I try. Chocolate von Grande, Dingle van Glende, or whatever it is. Say that again? I want to see if you got it right.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Macho, Ralph DiMachio, Ganglande, testicular von Glendular, Capon D's, Sephora, Midnight, Eyes Shadow, Crunch. Yeah. I've been trying to drink from the straw without looking, like if I look at it. Okay. It's easier to sit, but if not, I have to feel for it. Oh, with your tongue. You know, you look like an anteater that just walked out of a motel 6 after getting rimmed.
Starting point is 00:35:18 You know, it's interesting. My uncle Charlie used to call my uncle, his friend, Uncle Bob. Bob's wife, the ant eater. God, can we do one more excerpt from the book? I have one final one that moved me. It involves your mother. And I know that's a touchy area of the book. If it's, I have a question, are you going to hear me?
Starting point is 00:35:38 Yes. Afterwards, I want to hear your follow-up to your powerful words. I don't, I don't. This is powerful stuff, Guy. Okay. I don't want you to. I really don't. It's your podcast.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I don't want to negate you. and if that's something that is important to you, but I'm just telling you how I feel, I really don't want you to. I want to say I'm receiving your feelings and I'm respectful of your feelings. Great. So what do you want to do is for the sake of our viewers and listeners, I have to override your personal needs and agendas.
Starting point is 00:36:10 And I think we need to fill a void for our listeners that need to know about a young, a young, innocent boy that had an uncle who's saying, slaughtered people in the Hollywood Hills while he was in bed playing with his Lego set. Now you're getting me mad. I think you wrote this book. You owe it to the people to share it. And I'm going to, God, it's like I'm dealing with someone who has SARS. Careful, careful, careful, careful, careful.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Care bears. I saw your password. Well. Is that something you don't want me to share? You can say it out loud. See, unlike you, I'm being open, which is the opposite. Say it out loud. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I'm giving you permission. Say, hey, my password out loud, fun bags. No, it's not my business. It's not theirs. But this is, this is important, this is literature guy. You wrote this. You were, I don't know how many nights you were up and down. This obviously moved you.
Starting point is 00:37:16 You told us earlier that this book had to come out of you. You're dealing with a lot, being the nephew of a man. maniacal madman who took the life of a one Sharon Tate, an actress. Now, let's not fight your own impulses and your own creativity. And I'm sorry if this upset you, but after we do this, I'm going to do a raw shock test with you and see if we can get to some of the deeper angst that's lying within your curriculum surface hieroglyphic enzyme particulars. Here we go from pony rides and prostitutes with Uncle Charlie,
Starting point is 00:37:58 my memoirs as a child, living with Charles Manson as my uncle. This is our third and final excerpt by Rick Glassman. My mother was running late for her jazzercise class. The panic in her voice dripped like sweat down the side of Paul Newman's face. I remember speeding through traffic. her Volkswagen Beetle running over several cats. You know, if laughing is part of the therapy of the... Of course it's an insane story.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Of course it is. Well, I didn't write it. You did. What's wrong with it? Why is there such judgment and what emotions we used to express? Well, I find this tough stuff and you're laughing it off like I'm doing a knock knock. What was the first part of that sentence? What was the first three words you just said?
Starting point is 00:38:47 My mother was running... No, no, what you said. You said, I find this. Yeah. You find it. Oh, I see. You can find out however you'd like to. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:54 Okay. Let me step back. Sorry. Okay. It's fucking funny, man. I get it. Okay. I see the laughter is probably a way of a coping mechanism, perhaps.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Why the fuck? Yeah. That's why I have a silly podcast. Sorry. I, it's totally fine. I get it. I'm just saying just understand. Now when I hear you laugh, now I know.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Thank you for communicating that. Something that we couldn't do behind a message board. That's right. Well, let me, uh, finish. Here we go. I remember speeding through traffic, her Volkswagen Beetle running over several cats. My delirious mother, not even flinching. Within minutes, we arrived at Uncle Charlie's compound, where I was pushed out of the car door so quickly, I felt like an unborn elk popping out from its mother's hoofed uterus. And now I stood alone with the eerie sting of cicadas filling the hot
Starting point is 00:39:52 summer air as the dust from my mother's tires settled on the dirt ground beneath my Scooby-Doo sneakers I stood there in the spacious compound surrounded by shabbily built bungalows and dilapidated cars there was a somberness to this place a queer sense of anticipation as if something was about to happen and then as if on cue a rickety screen door burst open on one of the cabins, and a shirtless Uncle Charlie appeared, his arms outstretched, chocolate syrup rings
Starting point is 00:40:30 finger-painted around his nipples, and a welcoming smile across his face as he crossed the compound toward me. Star-Lizzard, he called, as the gap between us narrowed. Star-lizzard, I responded curiously. Uncle Charlie's eyes twinkled like a lighthouse at the edge of the world.
Starting point is 00:40:50 I was the unsuspected, moth drawn to the glow. Everyone in the compound has a Manson family name. We don't use real names here. I felt the warm trickle of urine make its way down my inner... I felt the warm trickle of urine make its way down my inner thigh as I could no longer contain my youthful excitement. Uncle Charlie knew I loved lizards.
Starting point is 00:41:17 And before I could say thank you, Charlie scooped me up in his arms. hugged me like a corpse washed up on a beach and said, come on, let's go get a needle in your arm and get you jacked up on black Afghanistan heroin. Uncle Charlie wants to take you on a magic pony ride to prostitute land. Guy, again, I'm... Is it the hot chocolate or the words? I mean, how did you make it through this?
Starting point is 00:41:52 what i don't like by pushing forward i'm sorry an 11 year old boy with a heroin needle slapped in his veins prostitutes how old were you when you were deflowered by this maniac and his night's night walkers i never slept with any of them i never i lost my virginity at 17 oh but how does one know that if one's you know flying tweaking on afghani heroin i mean my therapist tells me uh that that subconscious trauma still exhibits itself uh in the consciousness okay and uh there was no trigger with any of these things of course something may have happened um but it doesn't feel as though something did and for all that i remember that wasn't the case wow i mean i don't i don't know if you're comfortable with the term hero but you uh i am you're like a hero to make it through this uh you know
Starting point is 00:42:57 i want to acknowledge both the both um accept what you said about me being a hero and yes but also acknowledge how many single mothers out there who are raising of their families um and some single fathers but mostly single mothers uh with a bad uncle and they're heroes now a lot of that is hyperbolic I never knew Charles Manson. My family never knew Charles Manson, but this all existed. And it's all a microcosm of what traumas we exist and what uncomforts live within the family and what we take on as a burden to ourselves versus what we take on as a burden that exists within the universe, right? So when somebody comes and gets in the way of your highway, you could swerve around, you could stop, or you could barrel through.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Now, sometimes you may choose to swerve around and or stop. And if those don't work, your other option is to not go anywhere or to barrel through. And is it your fault that this obstacle forced itself upon you? And how you handle it is a choice. But how you grieve and how you handle the choices that you made behind you, that isn't something that you could change. It's only something you'd accept, grow, and learn from. And I've chosen to take this stuff and not only artistically express it to let people know
Starting point is 00:44:10 that everybody has an uncle Charlie Manson in some way or another, but to say that this isn't something to be shameful. It's something to, by design, acknowledge, because that's the only way to get past. God, the way your mind works. I mean, it's, I almost need to, you know, take a little break just to absorb. Do you want to take a break? No, I just, mentally I need to take a break, absorb, you know, categorize and influentialize the particles that are being manipulated through the cornea and the vitriolic fluid. that's tantalizing the traumatic Corinthians.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I'd love to, because we're getting deep. Yeah. I'd love to do a raw shock test with you. Is that, are you? Yeah. One of my best friends is a raw shock. Okay. So I'm used to it.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Well, this would be great because I'm just, I mean, I'm getting stuff here with you that I don't get with other guests. Well, you should check out to take your shoes off podcast to enjoy that even further, the audience i'm speaking of but i'm trying to keep the focus on your intellect on your lack of ability to focus we're doing a show here guy are you playing solitaire or what was that uh that's a personal thing but we do need to focus we're i'm here with you now i'm here with you about to do a ross shock test and i felt like you were checking movie times or stocks or something and I'm about to do it, Ross, do you know what?
Starting point is 00:45:45 You know, what movie times and the stock market have in common ever since this whole Reddit extravaganza with the manipulation of these push options and AMC and what's going on with Regal filing Chapter 11 now and it's interesting how the entertainment industry at the highest level, at least in my opinion, and for you, thanks to Rocket Man in the movie business, that these things have been put from
Starting point is 00:46:11 something that you seek for, pleasure into something that is literally people's livelihoods. And that line between the professionals and the audience has really been blurred. Or I would even say it's going to closer together. If you know, Venn diagrams? Sure. I love the fast and the furious. So no, no, Vin Diesel. Venn diagrams are these circles where now that middle circle has, the overlap has been bigger. And it's kind of like we're all in this together. We're all, even you, like you're starting this podcast. Why? That's not who you are. It's not necessarily who, what you chose to do. It's not even what I want. Right. But we don't even want to be here right now.
Starting point is 00:46:42 now. We have to take on this responsibility to, like, put yourself out there. It's a new landscape, right? You're not only now an actor or an artist. You're a marketer. You're an editor. You're a producer. You're a cameraman. You're all these things because you must and we must. And that's what's happening with the stock market. Yeah, model as well. I see, this is, you know, if you're mind, you know, I, what was that noise you made before you said, your mind? What does that mean? It was me. If you ever heard of the term jumbalaya in the cooking world. Yeah. So I just had a caccony of jambalaya.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I tried to express myself and keep up with your mind. And I strip stumbled on about 17 words at once. Well, what were those 17 words before we get started? Well, I'm embarrassed. One was philidomide, which is, you know, I see that shit eating grit on your face. That's the children with the, you know, the crab pickers. Why are you? You know, I'm not offended, but the judgment that you pass on me, I understand is a lack of acceptance of self. And I think it's so interesting with how aware you are of what's around you, but you're sitting in a chair made of jello. What's going on with you? I'm feeling wobbly. Yeah. Okay. That's why you're stuttering all of your jumble eyes. I think you're kind of deflecting because you're a little nervous about the raw shock test. You know what? I don't believe I am, but that might be the case. And let's see. I want to acknowledge that that might be true. I've got five images, raw shock images. I'm going to show them. the crowd first.
Starting point is 00:48:13 The crowd? And then I'm going to show them to you, and I need a impulse reaction to what you're seeing. Snowman. You know this is black, right? Well, I don't see it as black. A black snowman. I see a silhouette of a snowman on a... Oh.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Being backlit on a snowy field. Very interesting. Okay. Number two, raw shock. I see a bunch of drones lighting up the night's sky. in a beautiful pattern in artistic creation that technology has met art and it's about time we display this. Backlit in a snowy field.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Actually, this is a snowman that stepped on a landmine. But you can interpret what you will. Isn't that what I'm supposed to be doing, though? You're right. I apologize. How about this one, Richard? It's reminding me of when you're at the office doing your thing and you have some free time so you put your butt on the copy machine and you print some copies.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And that's the butt. Well, I don't appreciate it. I appreciate you coming on my podcast and saying I have lung cancer because that's what I'm getting from this. Okay. Do you want me to give the test to you or do you want to give it to me? No. Sorry. Here we go. Number four. You know, it's funny because that I see as a snowman who stepped on a landmine. Correct. And it's shadow.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yes. And this is the last one. And this will tell a lot, I think. no you had it right yeah i see that's you and me looking up at the stars that light our way to happiness and uh self-fulfillment and that's me on the right and you falling over uh and laughter on the left that's what i saw too friend so we shared in two of them friend friend friend friend friend in need It's a friend in deed. And a friend with a deed is a friend in need of somebody to help them bring the furniture into their home. Because he has land. He's got a deed, he's got land.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Do you want me to sing a beautiful Rascal Flats lyric that... I would love it. I would love it. Because there's this idea that we are, we want, and we had these expectations and these goals and these dreams and these desires. And sometimes they're not met and we real sad and we feel shame. and we feel like we could have done something better, but you don't realize this is all a path to something that might be even better.
Starting point is 00:50:43 And there's a song by Rascal Flats. It goes like this. Every long, lost dream led me to where you are. Others who broke your heart. They were like northern stars. That's distracting me a little. Do you mind if I... Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:04 I thought the music would help the horrible singing. but what is it i don't have to do it no that's embarrassed i'm actually really embarrassed no no no it's okay your voice i don't know if you remember the scene in nightmare in elmsd where freddie kruger's claws went down the chalkboard listen to the words please i mean i listened to so much of what you had to say even though it made me uncomfortable i would appreciate you just listening to this this is what i hear when you sing beautiful drones lighting up the night's Well, a blowing up black snowman exploding and his snowy body parts landing on Princess Diana's grave, who ironically, you know, worked most of her adult life trying to clear landmines.
Starting point is 00:51:51 So if you want to sing and mock Lady Diana and her legacy... Jeez, Arlington, you're a tough, you're a tough, you're a tough sell. You know, did you think you're going to come on my podcast and just skip through it and not be challenged? I didn't have expectations. Well, this is why people want to come on here. They know it's going to push buttons. It's going to make them think. It's going to make them dance the dance.
Starting point is 00:52:15 It's going to make them want to have van sex with Casey and the Sunshine band. How come you're not dancing the dance? How come you're not feeling things? How come you're not allowing your buttons to be pushed? Why don't you just listen to this? It's a beautiful lyric. Please, just listen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Look at me. Every long, long, long stream. Let me. And think about what the word. Also, think, just listen to it. Like, actually listen to it. I'm going to absorb it and go one step further. I'm going to be like a bounty fucking dish cloth
Starting point is 00:52:44 sucking up grape juice between Dolly Parton's tit floppers. Have you seen a white man can't jump in? Remember when they had that argument of like, No, but I've seen black snowmen can fucking explode. He's saying that he's listening to Jamie Hendricks, but he can't hear him. But just listen. I'm absorbing. Harlan, give me 25 seconds and listen.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Actually listen. to the words and think about how poetic this is. And what it might mean to you, this is in a way of Warwick test as well. That's what art is. It makes you feel. I'm not going to tell you what to feel, just that you will. Excuse me. Every long lost dream led me to where you are.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Others who broke my heart, they were like northern stars, leading me on my way. Into your loving arms, this much I know is true. Then God bless the broken road that led me straight to you. You know I'm straight, right? That's Rascal Flats, and I don't know anything about you. I could project and I could assume, but I'm here to listen, and I believe that you are. Well, that might have been one of the biggest, deepest, hardest come-ons I've ever experienced. What does that, what do those lyrics mean to you?
Starting point is 00:54:06 Like, how would you... It means to me, a full-grown man wants to get me in a bed and roll me over on my stomach and power thunder me. You should get this reprinted to Harlan's ego. Well, when a man wants to mayonnaise me up and make me slap around like two priests in a bouncy house, I'm calling a spade a spade, Mr. Snowman blower. Okay. Let's skip a long.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Now, people probably know this about you because of your, let's take our shlippers off show. Take your shoes off. It's called the Take Your Shoes Off podcast. You're, you. I can't hear you one sec. I'm sorry. I was adjusting. I didn't hear you.
Starting point is 00:54:49 What did you say? I said sometimes when we sniff anted eater meat, we get hungry for armadillo juice. Is that Shania Twain? That's Twain, yeah. You know Shania Twain is Mark Twain's great-great-granddaughter? That's right. Isn't that wild? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:55:06 It's so funny, the different relate, and then you're the nephew to Charles Manson. It's so interesting. Well, I guess for book sales, I'll say sure, but that's not true. Well, I think maybe Ancestry.com tells another story. Which, by the way, brings us up to our sponsors, Ancestry.com. If you go to Harlan Highway, excuse me, Ancestry.com slash HHP, that's Ancestry. dot com slash hhp for 20% off your first it's it's it's it's incestry.com
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Starting point is 00:56:04 What's the discount that you get? Well, most inbreeds don't know how to do math, so we don't do, they're not the brightest. We don't do calculations. Okay. For imbreds. Will you clip me singing that song? I think it sounded really good.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I'd like to. Clit you? Clip. Share with me that song. So I could see if I could get Rascal Flats to listen to it. I think all you're going to get from Rascal Flats is like pure litigation for soiling, if I can use that word, soiling a hit. All right, what were you going to say that you said people know about me?
Starting point is 00:56:39 Well, you live in a place, is it fair to say, and I think you told me that you live on the spectrum. Is that possible for me to say that? Is that real? Because I got in a little trouble. The spectrum is a new. phrase for me. And I was at a charity event for my charity, Cinnamon Angels fly, fly away. And what does they do? What do they do? What is their mission? They help children with cinnamon allergies.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Help them with what? Saying away from cinnamon or finding a way that they could digest a metabolize cinnamon? When they have a cinnamon attack. What's a scientific term for a cinnamon attack? Cina flare. And we help them with the recovery process. Give me an example. Okay, you're in the cinnamon ward at Cedar Sinai. Not me. Tell me an actual example. A child is walking through an airport.
Starting point is 00:57:34 A Cinebon is wafting, purposely wafting cinnamon fumes through Terminal 4, Terminal 5, Delta America Terminal. A child with severe cinnamon allergies and hails said waft and lies on the floor. Ancles swell out, which is a common sign. tongue hanging out drool which enough drool to fill kujo's asshole to fill whose asshole kujo he had big dog with rabies and uh he had a big asshole he had a huge rabies uh makes the assholes swell and widen janae twain no thanks i'm straight okay um but anyway so we uh we help with the recovery and uh and so do you get the you get this guy boy in the in the airport to a hospital or is there something, are you working with the airports to have some type of, like,
Starting point is 00:58:27 is it an EpiPen? What is it that you give them to recover? No, it's just to get them to the hospital and then we determine how far through the rabbit hole they've gone. So you, this, this charity actually is about transportation as well? Well, it's about transportation is the first part to get them to a healing center. Well, who knows that, I mean, transportation can't be the first part. First has to be diagnosing this as a synonym.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Right, so children wear a silver bracelet with an emblem of a piece of cinnamon toast. That's cute. It's cute because kids like it. No, it is cute. It's, absolutely not. I think it's sweet because it's a scary thing. And if you're able to put something like a little breakfast item or a little cutesy cartoon,
Starting point is 00:59:14 it makes it. It's cinnamon toast. Yeah, which makes it not as fearful as like a skull in crossbones with cinnamon sticks as the crossbones. That's right. Thank you. Thank you. You're getting it. And so anyways, I was at a charity event for Cinnamon Angels Fly Fly Away, and I met a beautiful woman.
Starting point is 00:59:33 There was a black tie affair. And I got talking to her, and maybe the cocktails were flowing a little. We were really hitting it off. And she offered up to me unsolicited. She said, I just want you to know, before we go any further, I'm on the spectrum. And I said, oh, well, that's okay. I have dish TV, you know, I have dish. Right. You thought she was talking about cable, spectrum cable.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Right. Right. And she slapped me and walked away. Yeah. And but so I realized that the. Gave you a little bit of cinnamon. Well, I realized the spectrum is, is not a digital satellite service. Yeah. Well, it is. Not satellite, but it is. Oh, it is. Okay. It's cable. Yeah. So I was just slapped for getting. slapped.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Yeah. Also, you never really know. I mean, women are a complicated animal, and so are men. But the difference between men and women, and there's only two. Here we go. But the big one is the way that they kind of, what's the word? It's not empathized, but like digest. I'll say digest intention, right?
Starting point is 01:00:44 Okay. So take, for example, this woman who you meet at Cinnamon, Angels Fly Fly Fly Away. Yeah. C-A-F-A. Sure. much like the way somebody who has a cinnamon flare kind of takes something that you might be able to take in just as a sweet little spice.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Yeah. But they take it and it makes their ankles swell and their mouths drool. Yeah. It's not cinnamon isn't the problem. It's the inflammation. It's the way it's metabolized. It's the body itself.
Starting point is 01:01:14 Right. Right. And when we start to recognize our body as not something that belongs to us, rather than something that we also get to inhabit, along with millions and millions of other microbiome, right, of other, not just millions upon millions of molecules, but actual other living creatures that we are kind of, but we like to pretend we're controlling and some of it with consciousness we are, but a lot we're not
Starting point is 01:01:40 controlling. And so instead of cinnamon being the issue, sometimes it's the way our body, you know, the saying we are our worst enemies, sometimes our body will attack itself. sometimes our body will attack itself thinking it's healing. This is what the, you own compromise are dealing. My father has restless leg syndrome, and one night he kicked himself to death. Oh, my God. Well, his body attacked him as you so eloquently.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I'm so sorry. Yeah, he kicked himself to death in his sleep. He had a restless leg syndrome. But doesn't restless mean like your legs aren't moving like that? No, they were, they kicked. It seems like the opposite of rest of legs. His knees snapped backwards and he just, he dropped kicked himself in the throat. That doesn't sound like a restless leg.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Yeah, it sounds like a non-rattice leg syndrome. You know, you've brought up a lot about karate. You talked about Ralph Machio earlier. Sure I did. And I wonder if there's something subconscious where this need for defense or are you just a big fan of Cobra Kai. Do you know John Hurwitz? Shout out to John Hurwitz, one of the creators of Cobra Cye.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It was he who's... No, I'm not going to acknowledge that name. Yeah, there's obviously something going on. There is, and this is, I'm picking the topics, not you. He also did American Wedding, the American Pie. series of Harold and Kumar's. Steering it, not the way I want to. He's a great, very great comedy writer. I'm going to, we're going to end out the show. Shout out to John Hurwitz. Well, not, we're not. Not on this podcast. You just did. Well, I'm negating it. Um, we'd like to close
Starting point is 01:03:08 out with something we'd like to clog out. We're going to clog out. Excellent, excellent wordplay from the master. We do a thing called words from a wooden shoe. Yeah, I'm a big fan of the pod. What you do is you pick out, it's not word or say, you pick out a word or words, and you relay to us. Yeah, like charades. Like a memory or if it indicates a story or some kind of rest. So are you going to do it too? Well, no, it's only for the guests.
Starting point is 01:03:37 So reach in there and pull a word from a wooden shoe. This is actually a real clog from Holland. Seduced. Please elaborate. And I don't think I told you this. I may have, but I didn't tell you on the podcast. podcast when you came on and I was thinking I should have told you this and I just didn't think about it. But when I was a little boy, I used to watch, I'm not joking, the movie Rocket Man. My dad
Starting point is 01:03:59 and I would watch it all the time. We loved that movie. And I loved the movie so much that when I had the opportunity to speak with you and to have you on the podcast, I got very excited. This is literally Rocket Man. And the way that you are both playful but mindful, the way you are arbitrary yet as direct as a goose with a feather that wants to be slept on. I felt seduced by you and not in a negative way where it's like I'm drunk and he's taking advantage in a way where the chemicals in my brain secreted this allowance to bring you in, literally to my home, to befriend, to learn and to play with. And now seduction has many forms and could have many demons like cinnamon.
Starting point is 01:04:49 But in this example, I was seduced from you before I even met you. It's called the seduction of the enzymes. S-O-T-A or S-O-T-E. I don't know how to spell enzyme. You will. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, Rick Glassman, Rick, before you go, I know you'll want to plug your book,
Starting point is 01:05:11 but I also want you to plug anything else that our listeners, our watchers can enjoy. What a luxury this moment I have to speak. to the home audience. Yeah, well, it's the main thing that I want to plug is the Take Your Shoes Off podcast. But also, I have a show on television that I'm very proud of. It's on Amazon Prime. Yeah. It's called As We See It. If you want to go ahead and check that out, it's a great show, beautiful show. Well, the great thing about it being on Amazon is you don't even have to check it out. They'll deliver the whole cast rate to your door in a box and they'll act out the episodes. Well, in a way, streaming. And that's at Rick.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Glassman on Instagram and also, and I'll send you the media. I want to give a big shout out to Marshall Rug Gallery. Oh, sorry. That's Marshall Rug Gallery. And we'll cut to the commercial. Yeah. Oh, God damn it. And anything else? Your wonderful book, not out yet, but coming soon on Amazon. Pony rides and prostitutes. Memories of my Uncle. Charlie, memoirs of a child with Uncle Charles Manson. Rick Glassman, what a delight. What a, what a, what a, to get into your mind, to let us in, to let us into your mind and jump around and feel it, feel your brain flowing to our toes. You know, I've been a fan of yours for such a long time.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Just a wonderful, really appreciate you having me on here. I was watching, I was laughing last night. I watched the episode of you and Nick Swartz and I thought it was so funny. And yeah, it's just been a real treat, a real pleasure, a real, real good time. And thank you again for having me and for giving me the opportunity to share not only my story, but my point of view. So those out there, whether they want to feel better or better understood or better to understand, they have an opportunity to listen to this and to feel free and to carry it on and feel cared for. And it's just always a great time.
Starting point is 01:07:11 You know, ever since, you know, literally since I was seduced by you and then get to meet. We saw the Hollywood Improb. Can I interject for one second? We ended about a minute and a half ago. Oh, no, I'm just talking to you. I just want to say that I really had a great time with you and have a great time with you. And you have just lovely energy.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Remember the word I used earlier, narcolepsy? Theme music. That's it for today, gang. Rick Glassman, Powerhouse of Humanity. Until next time Chicken Chalamee, baby Scoot doo Babbity Blue
Starting point is 01:07:53 When I was a young boy I found myself in situations I could breathe in So I found myself I loved the feeling Not airing this episode You've just been cancelled I'm not airing it
Starting point is 01:08:09 What do you mean? You're done All right man What a waste of time that was Ass

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