The Harland Highway - Podcast 58
Episode Date: January 11, 2010Today I talk about ponytails, Credit card swipers, Whole Foods, and my buddy Dane Cook drops in. And lastly a haunting song sung by me about suicide...hmmmm strange ending to today's show indeed!!! Fu...n frolicks five! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Oh, boy, oh boy, welcome to the Harland Highway.
When I say, oh, boy, oh, boy, I'm not calling for Tarzan's kid who he named Boy.
I'm not like, oh, boy, oh, boy.
No, I mean, oh, boy.
And I'm going to tell you right up front, this could be the weirdest Harland Highway yet.
This is a Harlan Highway that even got me off guard.
Okay, I started it one way, and the way that this show ends is unlike any other episode of the Harlan Highway.
It took a weird turn that I didn't really expect.
It's going to take you to a place that you might not expect.
It took me to a place that I did not expect.
It's not a bad thing.
It's all good, but it definitely...
This show definitely has a different bend to it.
And I'm not going to tell you what it is.
If you have the patience to listen through it,
you might find it rewarding.
You might find it not rewarding.
I don't know.
But it was a strong show with some powerful emotions at the end of the show.
And I'm just going to leave it right there and not kind of ruin it
and see if you're willing to go.
go down the emotional road with me
that happens at the end of the show
but leading up to that
we have some mirth and merriment as usual
I'm going to be talking about ponytails
you've seen them ponytails yes
I'm going to be talking about the credit card swipers
this modern revolutionary advance
that we have that doesn't really seem to work
the credit card swiper
talking about Whole Foods
Do you like your junk food or do you like your whole foods?
Your healthy foods.
And then this is a treat.
One of my buddies, I was going to surprise you with this,
but one of my buddies from the comedy world,
a guy that I did movies with and a ton of stand-up with,
a great, excuse me, God, I get choked up just talking about them.
I think I just swallowed a moth, like Silence of the Lambs.
There's a moth flew in my mouth.
how does it taste clarees oh it's delicious thank you hannibal now i'm going to eat your legs
um but anyways one of my buddies from the movie world the the stand-up world uh dane cook
comes in for an interview today um i love dane he's uh he's always funny he's got such great
energy um and then lastly you know right after the dane cook interview
I'll tell you a little bit.
I thought we were going to do more with Dane,
but then I got on this topic that was a little emotional to me,
and it went down, the show takes a different turn,
and then there's a song that I do.
That's as much as I'll tell you about the surprise,
kind of weird ending.
I actually sing a song towards the end of the show,
and it certainly took me to an interesting place.
I hope you like it.
I hope you are willing to go along
for this strange version of the Harland Highway,
but nonetheless, I love it.
It's what life's all about.
So you're ready to do it.
You're ready to go into this strange show with me.
You're ready to swallow a moth for me?
I am, Clarese.
Shut up, Hannibal.
All right, let's do it.
Let's get our moth on.
Let's get our seatbelts on.
Put the pedal of the metal.
You ready, everybody?
Come on.
Here we go.
It's the Harland Highway.
You're riding down the Harland Highway.
Wow, that is quite a ponytail you have there.
My goodness, how long did it take you to grow that?
long hanging braided gray ponytail sir yeah that's right i'm talking about dudes
with the ponytails okay um and i'm specifically talking about the dudes with the ponytail
that are turning gray and you're just a little too old to be having a ponytail dude, okay?
It's, uh, we're in the 21st century, okay? You're not a swash buckler. You're not a hippie.
You're not in the fashion industry. Um, you're just a dude who's a lawyer or you work,
in a cubicle or you work on the subway, there is no room for you to have a ponytail.
And I'm like, yeah, okay, who am I to infringe on your personal taste?
Well, it's me, Harland Williams, and it's like those stupid Verizon commercials.
You know that pervert creep with the glasses and the windbreaker, and he's always standing there
and he's got 900 people behind them?
Yeah, well, it's me and everyone else in society standing behind me
And we're all going to lose the ponytail over the hill nerd
Yeah, it just it's a judgment call
I'm sorry to be judgmental, okay
But you got to lose those graying ponytails
And especially if you work in a job where you wear a suit
Good Lord, I've seen lawyers, I've seen, I saw a lawyer on the
the news in a dark blue pinstripe suit his hair pulled back and a ponytail and right away i was like
i want to sue that lawyer i want that lawyer sued for being out of touch for looking like a goofball
and i want him disbarred i want them de-ponytailed what kind of lawyer has a ponytail you know you're
in your mid-40s, you're in the legal industry.
I mean, what are you doing on the weekends, dude?
You go into, like, Renaissance fairs or something?
Like, during the week, you're defending murderers and criminals.
And come Friday at quitting time, thou turnest into a knight of the Fourth Legion,
and play knights of the round table all weekend at the Renaissance fair.
I doth saith, my liege!
good lord you can tell me to lose whatever you want okay fine i can take an insult
but i'm telling you lose the ponytails dudes unreal and the braids and the braids
looks like a cinnamon loaf hanging on the back of your head right looks like a horse's tail all braid
it up. So yeah, you look
like a horse's ass, is what I'm
saying. When you're walking in front of me,
your little tails wiggling back
and forth. I stand
back about four or five feet, just
in case you buck up.
Get away from my
pony tail.
I was just measuring it to see how long
it is.
Well, doubt can't touch.
just myeth, poniesth, taileth.
Okay.
Anyways, enough about that.
I got a bigger
beef I want to deal with. Forget ponytails.
Let's go out of like the old
hippie days and let's bring
it up to right now. Okay?
Boy, I'm just full of complaints already today
on today's show. Listen to me.
But when was the last time you swiped your credit card at a grocery store or at a department store or anywhere where you have to swipe your credit card?
And that little screen comes up and it says signature, right, the little LCD screen.
And then there's supposed to be a wire attached to the screen that goes out to some kind of futuristic electronic.
pen right with a point on it so you can legibly write your name and then you click okay and the
transaction is finalized and completing okay I cannot remember the last time I've been to one of
those credit card swipes and found first of all a pen that's attached to the damn
wire let alone a pen-shaped object I'm not kidding
I got one today.
I was at a grocery store.
Someone had a pencil
with a bunch of band-aids
and not just regular band-aids,
like colorful band-aids
with little pandas on them or something,
wrapped around the front
to make it nubby
so that it wasn't like the pointy edge of the pencil
dig it into the LCD screen.
I mean, the improvisation
that goes on at these questions,
credit card. I'm not kidding. I think one day someone gave me a branch from a pine tree.
Yes, sir, if you could just sign your name right there on the OCD screen. I'm sorry I don't see a pen.
Yes, sir, but I have this three-hour pine log, if you wouldn't mind. Oh, okay.
Oh, you forgot to dot the eye and cross the T, sir.
Thank you.
I mean, unbelievable
What is wrong with these things, man?
Can they not keep these pens on the wire?
Who's stealing it?
Some like Harry Potter nerds, like, oh my goodness,
look at this magic pen it writes on LCD screens.
Oh my goodness, I must snip the wire and take this away.
It'll be my first magic wand.
I will run out into the parking lot
and turn all the cars into owls.
Who-hoo, who-hoo!
Hoo-hoo!
And can't they replace these things somehow, man?
Broken pencils and sticks,
and I saw some old guy signing with his cane the other day.
They couldn't find some guy had a cane,
and he's just like,
and then the other part of this whole deal is,
Does it really matter what you write?
I'm not kidding.
I mean, no one seems to care what you write in there.
Sometimes when they give me these improvised sticks to sign my name,
they're so bulky and cumbersome.
I couldn't write my signature if I tried, man.
So I do the next best thing.
I just squiggle whatever a pine tree branch or a birch-bark tree leave
will allow me, permit me to sign.
I might as well be like
You know sometimes at the zoo
You see they see them put a paint brush
And an elephant's trunk
And they're like
Go ahead Tuffy
Go ahead and paint the Mona Lisa
boy
And the elephant's like
Whatever
Oh yay Tuffy
Yeah it looks like someone ran over a cat
No it's the Mona Lisa
Look
Whatever
So it's like
there are times when I just
I just literally put a squiggle
and that passes through
I hit approve and there you go
I mean it's literally almost
we might as well turn back into pirates again
because these things are so useless
like excuse me so there's your products
would you mind signing the futuristic
electronic LCD screen
ah yes I will
there it is an X
Is that your signature, sir?
Yes, that's my signature.
Arr! I'm a pirate.
Well, you're just like the other 25,000 people that have been through here.
Arr! Give me my groceries and shut thy piehole, you scurvy ginger-vited breathed freak.
Oh, I didn't think you'd pick up all my scent.
Ar!
I mean, it really is annoying, man.
Someone went to the trouble to create this futuristic wonder and we're just scribbling exes.
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Yo, yo, yo, yo, where's my grocery shop is that, player?
Where's my grocery shop is that, gee?
What's up?
What's up?
What's up?
Yeah, we all go shopping for groceries, don't we?
Dropped into Whole Foods.
I like the idea of Whole Foods, you know, healthier foods, organic foods.
And I get in that mode sometimes.
You know what? I'm going to Whole Foods.
It's time to start living.
I'm going to shop there and knock 30 years of bad health off my life.
So you go in and you got the shopping cart and you're like, wow, look at this place.
Look at all the food.
Wow!
And then you go to pick something up, and you're like, hmm, no sugar, no trans fat, no oils, no, I think I'll keep looking.
And you go over and you see the meat, and you're like, hmm, the meat looks good.
And it's, oh, it was raised on a farm surrounded by gold fences.
The grass was washed and fertilized before it ate it.
And the cow was massaged and washed every day.
and, oh, that steak's only $750.
Oh, well, at least the cow had a good life.
I guess I need to know that before I eat its dead carcass.
You're like, maybe a little much.
Then you go over to the...
I'll get some treats, man.
I'll get some ice cream bars, and you head over to your dairy's freezer.
You're like, oh, here we go.
Chocolate covered ice cream bars.
And you pick it up, and it's halfway to your...
basket made with soy milk.
Oh, yeah, that's what I want.
Soy milk ice cream bars.
Is there really ice cream at that point?
I guess not.
It's like grounded up soy beans, frozen and covered with chocolate to hide the taste of
the lousy soy beans.
And it goes on and on and on, and I'm not knocking whole foods.
I mean, God bless you.
At least they offer an alternative, but I don't know.
I always walk out of there a little disappointed.
And I'm like, hmm, where's all my crap?
Where's all the junk?
Where's my cinnamon buns and my donuts and my Captain Crunch?
My chips, my bacon.
Where's my sealed blubber and my whale fat?
Huh?
You know what, Whole Foods?
I appreciate the effort.
But I'm going to go do my groceries at 7-Eleven.
Hello, Pringles.
Hello, Coca-Cola.
Hello, early grave.
Hello.
It's the Harland Highway.
Bull Foods.
Check them out.
If you can survive it.
Mm-hmm.
Survival, man.
That's what it's all about, especially in the Hollywood game, right?
For those of you that think this industry that I'm in and all these entertainers and comedians and actors and singers, if you think it's an easy industry, it's not.
And survival is a key word.
And speaking of survival, I have a friendly guest.
A buddy of mine is dropping by any second here.
I'm not going to tell you who it is.
You just can have to hang in.
But this is a guy that, you know, when you talk about survival,
this is a guy I worked with a lot.
I did a movie with them.
I've done a ton of stand-up with them.
And I kind of saw this guy when he first came to town.
And, you know, it was trying to survive.
He's a guy that I saw, you know, they'd put on late at night at the clubs.
And there was one club in particular, a comedy club that I worked at every weekend.
And this young kid kind of came into town.
And you could see how to determination in his eyes to do well,
to overcome this industry, to survive.
and uh this guy uh is a real talent and um he's a buddy in mine and oh my god oh my god hold on
hello who's there hey harland whoa who's that i just thought it'd swing by it's dain cook
oh my god ladies and gentlemen dain cook how you doing buddy what's going on brother
i like the fact that we're not going to wear shirts during this interview i think you notice
you're like kind of like captain kirk right i'll take that sure
So does that make me like Spock?
You're Sulu.
Oh, you bastard.
You sullued me, dog.
Those are kick-ass boots.
I like those, man.
You like those?
Yeah, these are pure, these are walrus hide.
Those are pretty fancy.
You got a little buckle going on the side, like Pirates of the Penzance.
A Pirates of the Caribbean.
What is a Penzance?
Penzance.
Do you remember Pirates of the Penzance?
I know, but what is that, is that like an Italian dessert or something?
A Penzance?
Oh, yeah. You never had a Penzance? What's in it?
It's kind of like a creme brulee thing. It's, uh, there's a, well, there's Penzance in it.
Oh, my God. You never had a Penzance plant?
No, I've had, no, I've had lemon meringue. There's meringue and penzance.
It's interesting because those boots also look similar to, um, wardrobe from Pirates of the Lemon meringue.
Took me a long time to get there, didn't it?
No, but it was a tasty dessert. Let's put some whipped cream on that.
You're the hottest guy in the world. Oh, I can't swear. You're the hot. You're the hot. You're the hot.
F-bombing.
You're the hottest guy in the world right now.
Let's make up another word that we can say instead of the F word that means the same thing.
Bublin world.
You're the bubbling-worldest comic in the world right now.
Bubble A, man.
Bubble you.
Bubble rap.
So what happened, man?
I was doing the stand-up gig, and then Greg Coolidge, our writer-director.
He was a fan of my stand-up.
He's like, we should do something someday, which you hear how many times out in L.A.
I had a taxi driver last week on the way to the airport.
He goes, we should do a movie, man.
We should do a movie.
I was at a wake, and the priest was like, I got an idea for a pitch.
I know now it's not the right time.
So Greg and I both went our separate ways.
And I remember as we walked away from each other, we sang, against all odds,
Phil Collins.
Did someone do that drum thing?
I wish that I could just make you turn around.
Turn around and see me a cry.
Oh, my God.
What a touching Hollywood moment.
moment. We sang that to each other, and we walked off into the night, into the dusk. And then
years later, we got together a year before employee. We met because I had an idea for something,
and I pitched it to Greg, and he had great ideas that he added to it, and we went out with it,
and we pitched it to, like, everywhere. It's all about asses and seats, you know?
Asses and seats. If you can't put asses in seats, or if they're not sure if you can put
asses in seats, then they don't want to give you the spot. They want to know that you're
to be able to make a buck and retaliation came out and when it went number four in the
billboard charts that was my proof that I could put asses in seats because of the number of
units and da-da-da sold so retaliation for those who don't know and everybody knows is your
DVD special that came out my second my sophomore CD DVD comedy album yeah came out in 05
and only what the highest selling comedy thing since what Steve Martin yeah yeah I had that
album, too, wild and crazy guy.
Unbelievable. Before we go on, we're going to
take a little break right now, but going back
to your stand-up thing. How dare you?
Yeah, we're taking a break, buddy. I got
to put my shirt back on.
We're going to come back and talk about
your stand-up years, and
there was a little something we did one night.
Oh, yeah. Me and you at the comedy club.
Look at us. And I want you to tell
us about that. We'll be right back here on
the Harlan Highway. Number
one comedian in the world.
He's making George Jetson.
Sounds right there.
You can hear him.
It's Dane Cook
here on the
Harlan Highway.
Ah, yes,
Dane,
Zachary Cook.
And we were,
we were chewing the fat
a little
about the movie
we did together.
You might have seen it
Employee of the Month
with Dane and myself
and Andy Dick
and Jessica Simpson.
A fun little movie.
And I think it was
Dane's
first movie really his first uh it wasn't his first movie you had he had a couple of little
scenes in in things along the way but this was his first kind of big movie uh with him in the lead
and people kind of starting to get to know dain's name uh across the country and around the world
and it's exciting to to see that you know it was exciting to see a guy like i said go from
working the late night shows at the comedy clubs to getting a shot.
I kind of went through the same thing myself during my years when I did my movie Rocket
Man, where I was the lead and I was the co-lead in other movies like half-baked and down Periscope
and things like that.
And it's just, it's a fun, exciting time.
And it was interesting from my perspective to have kind of been there.
and been that hot guy, that flavor of the month for a little while for a couple of years.
And, you know, like with all actors, it all kind of dies down,
and then hopefully it comes back up and then goes down.
But Dane obviously still very hot and still a strong presence.
And, you know, he's got talent.
Whether you like him or don't like him, the cream always rises.
and Dane delivers the goods.
And so that was us talking about, you know,
some of our experiences with Employee the Month
and how that movie kind of came together.
And on the topic of comedy, this is interesting.
I'm going to switch gears for a minute.
It's going to go from being light and funny
to getting a little bit dark,
and then we'll go back to some more conversation with Dane.
I love doing this to you, people.
That's what my podcast is all about.
It's, I don't like to keep you on a straight line.
I like to give you the unexpected.
I like to dart in and out of different zones.
To me, that's more interesting than just.
Today we're going to talk about the plight of the disappearing honeybee in South America,
and we're going to dedicate the whole show to why the honey supplies are diminishing in South America.
I'll sit back for a whole hour about honey talk.
No, no, no.
I like to keep it hopping and moving and keep it unpredictable for you.
I find that interesting.
I hope you do.
But enough about my strategy to lure you to the podcast,
comedy is a jovial place, but it can also be a dark place.
and one of the the epiphanies that happened to me
is when I got into the comedy industry,
I thought I was going to be around the most joyous, joyous, funnest,
chuckliest, silly, upbeat people you'd ever meet.
Well, there are people like that in comedy,
but I guess a lot of comics I found out have a darker side.
Now, I consider myself to have a darker side.
I consider myself to have a dark side in terms of, I like dark things, like dark comic books, and I like violent movies and horror movies, and, you know, if I get down, I can write dark poetry and, you know, everyone gets to a dark place, but I guess a lot of comics, I don't want to paint every comic with this brush, but a lot of comics have a darkness that, I don't know, maybe stems more from issues and depression.
and things like that.
And again, not all of them.
Anyone could have that.
But I guess I didn't realize when I got into this industry
that maybe that's the fuel for some comics.
And tragically, very tragically,
over the span of my career,
I've known or met or rubbed shoulders with numerous comics
that have, for whatever reason, not made it.
And when I say not made it, I mean not made it through life.
These poor souls maybe were more tortured than the average comedian or person.
These were people that maybe had some deep inner demons or some issues they couldn't cope with.
These were people that took their own lives.
They committed suicide.
And, you know, some of them at a...
amateur level, some of them at a middle level, some of them at a very high and professional
level. I had a neighbor of mine who lives literally four houses down for me in Hollywood,
who was one of the most successful comedians in the last 20 years, take his own life.
And he was a guy that I met and knew and talked to, a guy named Richard Jenny.
uh who who um had you know numerous um specials and movies and sitcoms and um just obviously
some other things that we didn't get to look at and there were other guys young guys when
i was working my way up through the ranks in canada there was a few fellas that took their
own lives and it always stuck with me it always stuck with me you know it was painful and it was hard and
it sad me to know that these guys who really just wanted to come out and bring laughter to people and joy to
people were suffering so much on the inside and it inspired me to write a song i don't know how i don't
know why it for some reason it moved me and these poor guys that that were hiding these secrets
and took the final step and ended their lives um it inspired me for some reason to write a song
called the clown and um this song is about i guess their journey their pain and um i think i
initially wrote the song as a bit of a comedy bit for one of the specials, a TV special I
did once. But at the same time, even though it was kind of tongue and cheek, I knew that it was
still tapping into something that made me upset and sad and I thought it was tragic. And I don't
know, maybe this was just my way of dealing with it or my way of expressing it or my way of
tipping my hat to these guys that were here.
and my adoration for them and my respect for them and my feelings of loss for them.
And I guess in my own comedic dark way, this was how I maybe dealt with their tragic way of passing.
It's a song I wrote called The Clown, and the music was done by my cousin, Kevin Hearn, who's in The Bare Naked Ladies,
and they, by the way, back me up in this song,
playing the drums, the bass,
and Steve Page doing some backup vocals
and my cousin Kevin doing the guitar.
Here it is, to all those guys that lost their lives, the clown.
He stands bath in the spotlight
He's been there so many times before
His heart
It pounds like a drumbeat
But he always comes back for more
And the crowd
They all came to chuckle
he makes them laugh
until they cry
but for every action
there's an equal and opposite reaction
and tonight
somebody's gonna die
because he's a clown
he's crying on the inside
he's a cloud
he's lonely and afraid
he's a clown
he's crying on the inside
he's a clown
with one foot in the grave
he's a clown
one foot in the grave
They all.
and they cheered as he ended
his fake smile
masking his fake fame
he takes a bow
and he makes a big exit
unaware
they'll never see him again
back at home
the bullets
sit waiting
The empty chamber
It calls out his name
For the trigger
A flash
An explosion
And the cloud
Is ending his pain
He's a cloud
He's crying on the inside
He's a clown
He's lonely and afraid
He's a clown
He's crying
On the inside
He's a clown
He's a clown
He's a clown
He's a clown
And you'll never laugh at him again.
Wow. Okay. Can I keep it real here? That was emotional, especially for me. Just thinking about those guys that, you know, didn't make it.
And, you know, it's not just the comedy world. It's kind of applicable to all areas of life, all walks of life, all,
career paths
whatever we are fragile
us human beings and it's always sad
when
when it ends in that way
you know what
first of all I want to say thank you to the bare naked ladies
for backing my vocals
and also doing some backup vocals in there
Steve Page
Tyler on drums
Jim on the bass
and, of course, my ever-talented cousin, Kevin Hearn with the guitar and some of the backup.
Wow. Okay, that was a little more emotional than I thought, hearing it back.
And you know what, I'm just going to keep it real.
I was going to go back to Dane Cook, and we're going to do some more interview with him.
But I think out of respect for those guys and the things.
that I've been saying in that song,
I think I should just hang it up right here.
I know I usually leave on an upbeat, jovial note,
but I don't know.
I feel like that song just created a mood right there,
and I don't want you to leave depressed.
If anything else, I want you to know that these people
that didn't make it lived a tortured life,
but they wouldn't want me to hang up the show with you feeling down.
They were put on this world to make you laugh.
That was what they wanted to do.
And so remember these guys for the laughter they brought to you.
And anyone who's not with us anymore, remember the laughter that they brought you.
And we'll come back on another show and pick up with Dane Cook,
who is alive and living and his energy.
is making you laugh and um wow just kind of a weird ending to the show but i'm going to leave it
right there i'm going to keep it real man i hope you liked it this wasn't about bringing you down smile
it's about enjoying life don't let anything override your will to live and your need to laugh
and that's what we do here at the harland highway we remember
our dear friends who went off the side of the highway,
but they are never forgotten,
and we appreciate the time that they spent with us here and made us laugh.
And we will make you laugh more next time on this very, very strange ending to the Harland Highway.
But nonetheless, glad you shared this experience with me and the other listeners.
That's what it's all about.
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And keep on laughing, man. Keep on laughing.
That's how we make it through.
That's what we do.
And until next time, keep it real in the deal.
And chicken chow main, baby.
Thank you.