The Headgum Podcast - 157: Sandy Hurwitz (w/ Hollywood Handbook!)

Episode Date: June 16, 2023

Sean and Hayes (Hollywood Handbook) join Amir and Geoff to discuss joining the Headgum network, Jake's newborn baby, and plantar fasciitis. Plus, they play a round of Geoffardy! Advertise on��The Headgum Podcast via Gumball.fm Rate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on Apple Podcasts Rate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on Spotify Join the Headgum DiscordSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Previously on the HeadGum Podcast... That was easy. Full steam ahead, obviously. I saw a New York Times headline today that said, my marriage has a third wheel, our child. Let's talk about it. Do you guys want to have kids?

And if so, how many would you have? And if you have one, how do you make sure that that kid isn't like a fucking drag? A third wheel. Well. Can we bump that up? A little bit more on the headphones. It's really loud.

It's on here. It's really loud. It was really loud. If that was any louder for me, I'm going to be pissed. Okay. That was really loud. Can you turn mine down, actually? Yeah.

Yeah. There we go. Yeah, that's good. All right. Welcome back to another episode of the head gum podcast we've got the two newest head gum podcasters on the episode i think i need mine turned down a little bit turned down yeah it's loud it's loud yeah yeah this is the kind of pre-production mine's gone now hey i think this is good for me yeah huh? You can't hear anything. Now I can.

It's been less and less since we started. You're in a good spot. Yeah. You're good. I think mine's... How's that? I think fine. Yes, that's good.

That's good. I can see why the headphones is not really a thing here because it's like... It's all over the place. Nobody knows how they work. This experience is... Whoever's in that chair is in charge of them. I can hear other people's voice, but mine is not coming through and i like mine loud he or his wants his headphones very loud i don't yeah it's funny guys so we're good can you hear that you're i can hear yeah it's fine it's

whatever i don't know which one of these is which. Yeah, well, that's clear. You shouldn't just be like touching all of them. No, I just... I think you had it, man. I think you had it. Just let Hayes... Just let... Being too quiet for Hayes is not as big a problem as it being too loud for someone else.

Right. Usually it is too loud for everyone on this show, though. Doesn't seem like we have to choose yeah there's no way well welcome to the show you guys don't know what this is at all no i've just been so busy i i no i i'm not devastated i'm disoriented of course you guys just recorded that's why this is like a back-to-back episode. We don't like to do. And we leave it all on the field.

Yeah, exactly. So you're exhausted. Yeah. I'm completely drained. This is overtime for them. I'm sort of regenerating my, like, Joy. Yeah, I'm in the recovery period.

Yeah. Now I'm going to use this for that. Right, your reserve energy. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the refractory period. I would Now I'm going to use this for that. Right. Your reserve energy. Yeah. The refractory period. I would probably say, I mean,

how would you describe this show? It's kind of chaotic, kind of silly, should be fun and funny. Hopefully. That sounds like my shit. Right? That sounds like my show, man.

I think you guys will have a blast. But Jeff's in charge of like the segments and stuff like that. So there are segments? Sometimes there are segments, and sometimes there's what Jeff calls a waxing episode, which is just a free-flowing 45-minute conversation. That's an episode where I don't outline anything.

Right. But we have an outline today. Okay. It's a free-flowing conversation that occasionally touches on mature subjects. 45 minutes of pop culture discussion, mean-spirited games and quizzes, and gotcha journalism. So, also correct.

You guys have been on HeadGum for... Who's doing that? That seems like... You guys have been on HeadGum for like what, two weeks? I don't know when it officially started. Like they had this whole thing about like not yet. Yeah.

Not yet. Yeah. They kind of kept us on ice for a minute. Two to four weeks let's say. Two to four. How does it feel?

You want me to say it in front of Amir? Yeah. You can. This is an open forum. I'm going to be rude to everyone here. I'm like easing into it

because we just met 20 seconds ago I've got some notes the cans I can't hear myself the headband stuff has never been clear the you know we talk about it every episode on our show

we feel like there could maybe be one of these offices could be a second studio Amir says there's not even offices I don't know what they are. I think we're working on, yeah. We're going to make another studio. But I have rescinded my request for a second studio. I don't know if you heard,

and I have instead altered the request to be one working studio where the episode does get recorded. Okay, so this would be that room. Because I thought we should do that first. This, in theory, would be that one. Correct, yeah. If the cameras were turned on or if the sd card was not being cameras are on now altered in some way okay that's great this is not

our show yeah but when we've recorded at the time i just want to point out when they weren't on at the time we were also under the impression that they were on. Yes. Okay. So you saying that, in my experience, does not necessarily mean that they're on. I don't double check it. I didn't think that was my job. It's not. But we've had some times

where we've been told, you know, we don't have the audio for this episode. We don't have the video for this episode. That's happened more than once? Yes.

Yeah. Wait, when did you guys not have video? There was an episode of Flagrant Ones where the cameras, I don't think there was anything wrong with them other than the power had not been activated on them. Oh, interesting.

Okay, good to know. Off. Good to say. Good to hear. But you guys have also been on Earwolf. You guys tried your own thing that didn't quite pan out. I mean, it got us here, you know, like for me, I try to live without regret. And I say like, sure, there've been

periods of my life that were, um, not ideal when we were operating the podcast independently, but I never would have ended up in this chair if we hadn't made those choices. So can I really be upset about that? It seems like you don't like the chair you're sitting in. You're saying the studio doesn't work. I like the chair. I don't like the couch. I do not like... I like the couch. I hate the chair.

You don't like the chair, and you don't like the couch, so you guys are always on this side and that side, right? Your guys' guests did walk in earlier and they were like this is a really nice studio though so there is a wow factor that do you feel like was missing before maybe at earwolf i mean again earwolf it's not it was never a choice between this and earwolf right you know there's a choice between indie and this yeah and before you were just on zoom Yeah Yeah This is in the outline? No this is just the intro

We're trying to break the ice This is in the agenda? You guys seem angry So I'm trying to like break the ice Well you said you were going to be mean I'm not angry I was told that you were going to be mean You guys seem angry

Yeah What did you say earlier about The episode with That you did with him? Okay So for people who The episode with... that you did with him? Okay. So for people who are just listening... Starting now. To the...

or who only have the audio, Jeffrey pointed at me and then pointed at Amir. Right. I don't know what I said. of the day i said it sean said it that's what that that segment is the word of the day was amir oh okay so congratulations we used to give people a thousand dollars for that but i can't keep doing that because venmo now you have to pay taxes on any Venmo transaction.

That's why? Just the taxes? I'll cover the taxes if you want to sell me. I'll discount on that. If you guys want to plug your show up top, most people who listen to this show probably listen to your show. Okay, great.

Our show's called Hollywood Handbook. It's now a HeadGum podcast. Me now, too? I mean, that's most of it. We've been on here for, I guess, two to four weeks. All right, let's get into it, I guess. WGA Strike Week 6. Are you guys picketing?

Are you on the ground? What are you hearing? What's the best sign you saw this week i i i have picketed before i had the um i haven't done it this week yet but i did see a sign where someone had a little sorry just one second yeah okay you're bringing nothing to the table you asked hey so i'm listening to it yeah but you're just kind of sitting there vacant you're not saying a lot usually like you're dominating the discourse and coming at me with some kind of ritual i wanted to hear what the sign was i also want to hear i'm just saying like yeah let's get You're just kind of sitting there vacant. You're not saying a lot. Usually, like, you're dominating the discourse and coming at me with some kind of vitriol. I wanted to hear what the sign was.

I also want to hear, I'm just saying, like, yeah, let's get a little bit more out of you. I just, I can speak for it. Amir did not pick it this week. Yeah. You're not in the WG. He has not been. I'm not in the guild officially. He's not been participating. He's also been, like, improvising a lot, which is technically scathing.

What's officially doing for you there? I'd like to be in it, pay dues and get all the... But are you unofficially in it in some capacity? No. Okay. No. So you don't even need to say officially. But I am not officially in it.

Yeah. You're officially not in the guild. Correct. Yeah. What was the funny sign? It was a baby that was holding it. And it said, the AMPTP stinks worse than my diapers.

Oh, no. The baby was in the sign, and the baby was holding the sign. I really saw that. The baby was holding it. I really saw that for real. That's so loud. Yeah.

I can't hear my voice at all, but the explosion sound. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you'll catch me out picketing i go a little more than haze haze has a different job he has a hat yeah for how i got it yeah i've got a wga captain's hat in my car are you occasionally i get it's not stolen by valor i occasionally get deputized to uh to captain a gate. Weiger's a captain. Knock me over with a feather, Amir. I can't believe I've heard it here.

Two captains on Headcum. That's kind of exciting. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm not... Is he a captain, like, an all-the-time captain? Like, he's like... I think so. Casey, how long have we been going? Which gate?

Not sure. Which, or which... We've been going for about 10 minutes. All right, we have to move on. I'm sorry. We usually have a clock. This says, discuss Scotland's sturgeon

released from custody after police questioning. This is according to the Washington Post. That's a fish. Because they throw it back. Yeah, well,

they're talking about Scotland's first minister, Nicola Sturgeon, but I also thought they were talking about caviar. Scotland's first minister. Thrown back? What did they say?

Released? Released, yeah. That's what it says? Scotland's first minister? Yeah. Okay. Oh, like first lady, first minister. Maybe it's like...

Do most people put their feet up here? I would really like to do it. And Sean does it. I just want to know if it's okay. There's a drink. I think it depends what vibe you want. Like, you're coming in with, like, sort of a relaxed energy. And you're, like, you look, I don't know, you look uncomfortable.

I'm always, like, really squinched over here. Yeah, he gets so squinched in when he has to share the couch. It's big. I don't want to be on that couch. It's too soft. You want to try it? I think that, you know,

a lot of podcasts are recorded in like sort of office chairs, like, you know, desk chairs. Yeah. And,

I think it does make you sit a little more upright and feel like you're at work. Yes. And I think being on a lounge vibe. Yeah,

because it is my job. Yeah. And when I'm sitting in a chair like this. You can lean on sort of a chill lounge vibe. Yeah, because it is my job. Yeah. And when I'm sitting in a chair like this. You can lean on sort of a table set up. That's nice. I mean, I know we're not even talking about a second studio anymore, but if that conversation ever resumes again. If it had like a table and some more like it's in play.

If that was like, oh, like a different vibe. Maybe like some steel case think chairs or something like that around a table. I'm in that and I can, yeah, I can kind of lean and I just,

I'm a little more upright. I'm a little more engaged. I feel like I don't fall asleep. have an office chair. They have a table. Like, they have a more

business-like setup and have consistently been like doing better stuff. Murdering on the shows. Casey has been off the fucking charts on the shows. And I think it's so much of it is the chair. Casey has basically become the BTK of podcast serial killers on the show.

As you guys are saying this, Casey's looking at two different monitors. It looks like he's just online shopping. That's what that looks like? That's what you look like when you online shop? You use two different monitors? I have accessories on one. That's the cart.

I have to compare all the products. I'm looking at one product on one monitor and another on another. We did do a couple episodes of this where I was behind the boards just to prove that Casey and Kevin's job is kind of easy. Yeah, we did that. Yeah.

And... 2012, we did basically everything. Not much you can do in podcasts that we didn't start. Chaotic and funny and fun. Discuss. You know, Jake just had a daughter jeff i want to i want to like throw out the agenda here i want to like move past like we work together now like let's talk about like you and like what your deal is and like what

like have you guys ever met je? no this is literally the first time we've only ever laid eyes on him and like he works he does this podcast but I feel like instead he's the face of the network that I call home now yes

so don't look at the computer I have a lot here did you know Jeff went to college with Zach Dunn? Don't look at the computer. Like, let's like, like. I have a lot here. I know, but like, can we, is there like a chunk of. Did you know Jeff went to college with Zach Dunn? Yeah. No, I didn't know that. We did improv. This is the kind of thing we can make a real connection.

And I met him in college at an improv festival. Did I meet you then? I don't remember the name of the improv festival. He goes to so many improv festivals. Actually, yeah, you guys did too. You did a live episode of your show at the Improv Festival that we hosted. Yeah, that's possible. But I didn't know who you were at that point.

Was it me and Gabrus? I think Sean couldn't make it. It was you and Gabrus. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. But... Everyone from that seems to be doing great.

Zach's doing great. Yeah. Well, I introduced him to my whole network, so like... Are you taking credit? You discovered Zach? No I guess me introducing him to my entire network Like had no impact Not no impact

Amazing career Did you discover Zach? No yeah I'm sure that had nothing to do with it Damn Daniel If we could just put away the whole computer. The whole computer. Yeah. I spent four hours outlining this.

And I feel like there's a point where it's like, it becomes too much. I can feel the work, you know what I mean? Like, not in a good way. Do you want to just have a lax conversation? I mean, I think we could start there and you're describing by the way is a wax episode Which every time I do that People hate when I do that

People at the network are like You didn't prepare anything They like this? Yeah Jake's daughter's name is Gemma But I thought it would have been better if her name was like Sandy. Why? Sandy Hurwitz?

What is that? What is that? What's that referenced? I think it's a cooler name. Oh, I see. Okay. What does it say on the agenda? Yeah, what does the agenda say?

It says, discuss. Jennifer Aniston just partnered with pvolv this is the next pvolv which stands for personal evolution okay it's a fitness offers yeah fitness and streaming classes using signature equipment streaming classes yeah it's encouraging folks to break a sweat not your body okay okay i mean i'm happy for pavov obviously i have to say that um you know anything that makes jen happy makes me happy we're just ripping through these these topics i mean i don't this is only one segment this is only one this is just one side this is like the discuss wax portion. This is the wax portion?

This is the wax. There's always a wax portion, and I have talking points to kind of come back to in case the conversation lulls. Okay. And this is just like the news. I was also like, the president was indicted this week as well. I don't know if like. Okay, right. And did you also know that while filming. I don't want to talk about it.

Mute me on the bounty. Marlon Brando split 52 pairs of pants. You knew this. Yeah, I know this. And then he got a five gallon tub of ice cream and he took like a little dinghy and he like rode out away from the boat and the director was like screaming at him. And Megaphone being like, please stop. Please stop eating it.

And he ate the whole ice cream just like far away looking at them. Until his pants split. He was splitting his pants all the time that might be the weirdest thing that someone already knew on the show yeah because you just read verbatim the paragraph that's written he went out in a little dingy to escape the director yeah they were telling him they were like please get under control you're splitting all our pants. We're running out of pants material. And you're eating a lot. And he was like, you think I'm eating a lot now? And then he grabbed a tub of ice cream and he jumped in a little boat. In a little boat.

He scooted away. And he had to get in the boat because otherwise they would try to grab the ice cream and take it away from him. Please don't take another scoop. Yeah. How did you know that I knew Zach Dunn? That's something that's not on the outside. You're looking at me. I didn't say it. How did you know I knew Zach Dunn?

I never reveal my sources. See, that's not lax conversation. You're looking at me again. And I didn't say it was lax conversation. Something just happened to my headphones. Nothing good, but something is happening. And his episodes are a hit. Zach has done this show a couple times?

And the episodes are good? And you said this was one of the easiest ones to book ever? Zach was tough. I had to nail him down for my birthday like three weeks in advance. I feel like I can get Zach on my show. I have to stop him from doing it. That's true. I feel like he's trying to do it.

Unemployed. He's unemployed. Yeah, we talked. It was like the first segment that you brought up. Right, the WGA strike. Yeah. This is a segment I like to call So What. Okay.

This is news headlines that kind of don't ultimately matter. The other ones were not part of that. Yeah, the other ones were interesting. So this one is, I read news headlines, and then we all say in the news, so what? Can I just see the dot? I'm not going to look at any of the words. I just want to see. Sean can see it, and I feel like I'm looking at it.

It's really small. I'm talking, and you're showing it to Sean. Wow, that's really small, and it's not that long. It looks like... It's a crib sheet. It's a little cheat sheet. I'm getting flashbacks of when Andy was the producer of Flavor Wands, and there'd be just little bullet points.

That's right. I remember that. Olive Garden's menu used to boast an extensive pizza list. They don't have pizza anymore? No. They don't have any pizza? No. They don't have any pizza? They don't. Well, actually...

Well, I am clearly more curious about this than the other thing. This has Hayes locked in. And I think that Hayes was promised that when he does attend that establishment that he will be treated like family. And family makes pizza. They don't have any pizza. well here's I guess my question

is it like a known thing that they don't have pizza I only have the headline I don't read these articles they used to have pizza and they're stopping they used to boast an extensive pizza list yeah

and no more pizza plantar fasciitis is painful They used to boast an extensive pizza list. Yeah. Yeah. And no more pizza. Okay. No. Plantar fasciitis is painful, but some people are treating it the wrong way. So what? And you don't know what.

Do you want us to say it too? We're supposed to all say it in unison. So what? That seems more impactful. And I had a big reaction, obviously, Jan Aniston partnering with Paval. But yeah, I keep going back to that one too. But I do think that like finding out that there is an incorrect, common incorrect way to treat plantar fasciitis that is possibly making some of your listeners or me or people in my family

suffer unnecessarily and that it could be corrected, that seems more relevant and more impactful, even in the partnership between Paval and Jennifer Aniston. Wow. Bathroom grout gets filthy. The Marlon Brando one, too, was... You were on top of that one. I know, but I don't think it's not actionable

in the way that this plantar fasciitis one is. Right. And then according to the New York Times, bathroom grout gets filthy. Yeah. Yeah, so what? So what? Sure. I'd buy Apple Vision

Pro just to watch sports and I will. This is according to imore.com. So what? Well, that one's kind of interesting. That is interesting. I like how declarative it is. Not only would I do it, I am

going to do it. I would do it and fucking watch me do it because it's happening. Teen tries to save his... And that's the kind of thing also that i feel like you could launch into like would would you conversation you know that's not the point of the segment though our other our other flag was producer has a whole uh segment we do uh that is that is based on that where she brings up something and it says would you do that and then you guys

yeah have a conversation about it. Would you do that? We talk about it and we do it. And so maybe we could, I guess, use that since we're using it here. As an organic plug for the show. So would you do that? Would you buy Apple Vision Pro just to watch sports? So now you do want to have a conversation.

Yeah. I don't want to dead end your guys' contributions. I won't be doing it. No? Yet. Not the first adopter. But if you try it and it's pretty cool. I wouldn't do it.

Right. And I will. Yes. That's really cool. Teen tries to save his brother but both drown after jumping into a lake. Oh, come on, man. Okay, man. So what?

That one feels kind of important. I wouldn't say. I don't know. I'm not necessarily on the same page as Amir, that it's like, it's certainly important to them. I don't know if I would call it like an important news story. Sure. I also wouldn't react, so what? I wouldn't say so what.

That's horrible. I guess I'm not. It's just awful. I guess I'm not edgy enough for this show. Yeah. Take a break. We'll be right back. Are we actually taking a break? We're taking an ad break.

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Supported by ads. I get paid hourly to do this. Whether we sell ads or not. Hourly. So we're taking the risk. Okay. Feels like sort of a perverse incentive structure there.

Yeah. I don't know if more hours is like necessarily good outline alone you said four four times yeah my hourly rate so that was like over a hundred dollars shit and the edible arrangement oh we're back yeah the edible arrangements were an expense right because it's business related i was just gonna put that on my time card oh so we're paying you back for the yeah fruit that you said we both got sent fruit yesterday haze and i yeah and they're really you're gonna look at the invoice

and be like no chance yeah that that's what he spent on these yeah but they they they were they were so big much too big yeah really i don't think you guys have compared photos though because yours was i got you the deluxe xl bridal package one or something okay and then i ran out of personal money so then yours was like ten dollars and it was just kind of a cup oh mine i guess could you consume yours and personally i ate some of it, but I was fortunate that there was a music class for babies happening in my backyard. So there was a lot of parents and children and nannies. And so I brought out the edible arrangement, walked into the backyard, and was met with a big round of applause. Oh, wow.

And I did a little twirl almost in spite of myself when people had when i got the pop wow and then i just left it and and other people ate most of it yeah and did you play it off like i actually could have used the big one yeah that was unfortunate i could not i could not use the big one just like just with your like hands like like show how much yours, how big yours was and show how big yours was. Just like Okay, I mean like If you were to hold an invisible version of it

Is there going to be a lot more of like this kind of like making me do physical things like literally telling me to do like a physical bit. This is where you draw the line? I'll do this one i held it like this way before this yeah you can hold it just like that in your hand okay i'll do i just yeah i'll do this one okay it was like this so hey yours cost 260 dollars that's yours

was about 9.99 yes okay but it seems like yours wasn't 25 times I also want to say mine was only really unusual in how huge it was the actual like fruit selection and stuff was no it's not what I was going to say I think it was like pretty

basic I mean it was like only three different kinds of fruit just over and over and over a lot of honeydew honey i guess the two different kinds of melon right do cantaloupe then you got of course um strawberries strawberry and pineapple that's it yeah um this is uh a segment we forgot to do. Casey's laughing because of how I can't hear you.

Yeah. This is Bond of the Week. So every week until the Daniel Craig is out as James. Every week until the next 007 is cast we're lobbing up our casting decision for Bond. This week, my Bond of the Week.

Do you say lobbing up every time? Usually when I'm explaining it to new guests. Repeat guests, I just say, what's your Bond of the Week this week? And they know what I mean. My pick this week is Sasha Obama because it's time for a James Yawn. Was this queued up at the right?

Okay, yeah. This generation of Americans has been tested by crises. Okay. Who are your guys's bonds of the week who are some of the repeat guests that you've had like people at the network people who staff at the network people who staff the network so Casey's on a lot

Amir's on a lot Jake used to be on a lot but he's on paternity leave and Anya Amir is normally like really dominating he be on a lot, but he's on paternity leave. And Anya. You said Amir is normally like really dominating. This isn't. He's doing a lot. A bizarre performance from Amir. Not really.

I don't feel like that is the case at all. I mean, we'll let the commenters decide, but I feel like. Where are they? The commenters? You just said the commenters. And I said, where are they? And you said, who? Oh, YouTube. Where are the commenters? You just said the commenters, and I said, where are they? And you said, who? Oh, YouTube.

Where are the commenters? YouTube. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Is this live? No, of course not. Has one of ours gone up on YouTube yet?

Not yet. Okay. That's going to be big. Kevin, do you have a Bond of the Week? Two weeks from now? Someone you think would be good as James Bond? Donald Trump. Wow.

That's pretty good. Can you imagine that? There's no way. Who's your Bond of the Week? I was going to say Trump, but I guess Novak Djokovic or something. He just won the French Open. Novak Djokovic. That's good.

Sort of tall, slender, talented. Yeah. Looks good in a suit. Sure. Sean? Kendall Jenner. Not bad. Casey?

Say Kendall Roy. I was actually thinking Kendall Roy. There's no way you were thinking that before Kevin was put up. I was thinking Kendall Roy would be really good. All right. The character? Yeah, the character. Maybe Jeffrey could be James Bond.

That's good. His last name is James. He'd be better suited to that. We have two more things to get to. Hayes didn't really. Hayes, Hayes. I don't wanna do it. I know.

Bond-wise. Because he forgot you or you didn't want to anyway? I just feel like it's a lot of like okay now do this like i already had to like do like i will say people don't usually enjoy being on the show holding thing wasn't that but they usually participate in it i am participating like i'm like and and actually i'm trying to get to a place where Yes We can participate even more Yeah Like really like getting into stuff

Get his feet under him a little bit There is a game at the end I do a show I do a show that people don't enjoy being on The Hollywood Handbook And that they do participate in Sure But I would say

That the format's a little more open Right And that we don't say, do this. We say, can you imagine if you did this? And that's like, it seems really small, but it's a huge difference. It's huge. It's huge.

It's an invitation. Or we say like, they're doing this. They aren't actually, and we're like, they're doing that. Oh my gosh, look at them doing this. Yes, that's what we do. So to y'all, this feels like you're being met with a wall. No.

Not even that. I don't understand. We have to move on. Here's something that is not going to feel any better for you guys to stomach. Okay. Okay. This is new. Just something to get the energy up.

Yeah. I see you rice. Consistency. Of sand. When you're charting old grains, oh girl. You've got to scald. Till the rice overcooks, the hoisin will glob to my hands. When you're burning the rice, cauterize grain sear thus.

Scalded rice is caked with char. Scraping up burnt rice Ends Damaged rice Is scuffed in oil Scalded rice Is searing the searing The searing the searing The us

That was really good We do parody songs sometimes on our shows, and so big respect. It's always tough to come out and really sing the parody song, do it live with the karaoke track, and so thank you for doing that. What's the name of the real song? I don't even know.

Private Eyes. Private Eyes. Colin Oates, right? Colin Oates. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Colin Oates right Colin Oates Every move Yeah yeah yeah Colin Oates Scalded So

We've been sort of Amassing an album Of songs about Burning rice Oh okay Okay So we did Rhythm of the rice

We It's always you Marika sang one Two weeks ago But you wrote it for her Sure Okay I'm amassing an album Correct There's rhythm of the rice To the tune of It's always you. Marika sang one two weeks ago. But you wrote it for her. Sure. Okay, I'm amassing an album.

Correct. There's Rhythm of the Rice to the tune of Rhythm of the Night. And then there was Rice Burn, which was to the tune of Skyfall. And then, what was the other one, Casey? I can't remember. There's been so many. Oh, isn't there a Kanye one? All of the Rice. All of the Rice instead of All of the Lights.

Yeah, I realized you, it's like a small pool of words that you use. Right. So it's a lot of char, a lot of grains, a lot of rice. Poison and soy. But anyway, this is just adding to the album, and then I wanted to see if you guys had any notes. Here's a way to open discussion.

What inspired this to be the focus of the song? Was there a particular experience you had? Well, I'm glad you asked. The old studio used to be in the arts district down the street from a place called Omsby, which was sort of... It was one of those rice triangle things called... Onigiri. It was an onigiri restaurant.

But nobody ever ate there except for us. It's closed now. Very aioli-based. Yeah. there was a lot of mayo involved a lot of mayo a lot of rice yeah very little filling so it sort of became this runner at the network of just talking a lot about rice so that's where rhythm of the rice came to be because omsby closed in the pandemic so it was sort of like a i don't know eulogy to omsby and then i like let's take it a step further let's talk about how you would actually prepare the rice maybe you'd burn the bitch you know what i mean okay you would you would burn it like you kind of purposely charred notice how he just said burn it i just want to like point out like

he just said burn it. I just want to like point out like scalding. You would want to do that. Like how you would prepare it. Right.

If you opened your own. So this has been going on for like years. It was a long year and a half ago. Did the restaurant scald the rice? No, the restaurant

prepared the rice to perfection. It was just too much rice in these what are they called? But you want people The restaurant never burned it. No, the restaurant prepared the rice to perfection. It was just too much rice in these... What are they called? But you want people to burn it? I don't think it's a want. Why... Onigiri.

What's the introduction of the burning? Like, where did... It was just through song. It just kind of worked. Because I'm thinking, like, when you say the first one was Rhythm of the Rice... Yeah. Of Rhythm of the Night...

This is the Rhythm of the Rice, of Rhythm of the Night, then this could have been private rice. But instead it was scalded rice. So it feels like the burning and the scalding aspect of it is hurting you. So you're saying I should go back to just singing about rice. I think it's too limiting. Well, I don't get where that comes from. I go, we ate at this rice restaurant

that gave us too much rice all the time. thought it was gonna be a couple weeks ago i like burnt burnt my rice i thought it was an experience where you cooked it and then you yeah three years ago i ate rice that wasn't burnt and now i sing about it being burned yeah the fact that casey i don't know where that can't remember any of the other versions of this like they all kind of knowing how of blend together. Do you mind if I just read through the lyrics and we can keep scrutinizing it? Yeah, sure. I see rice.

It's fine. Consistency of sand. Okay. Which you said before. Sandy Hurwitz. Right. That's pretty good. It sounds right to me.

That's my bond. Sandy Hurwitz. Sandy Hurwitz should have been. When you're charring old grains, oh girl, you've got to scold. So you do want. What's the bass lyric? Like what are we playing off of?

I see you, you see me. When you're blurring the lines, you're making a scene, oh girl, you've got to know. So you turn when you're blurring the lines to when you're what? Charring old grains. Charring old grains. Yeah. Okay.

What I thought really was that you had eaten rice that was prepared incorrectly at first. Blurring the lines. And I thought it was going to be instructional of like, this is what you need to do instead. Right. Blurring the lines sounds kind of like burning the rice. And you turn that into charring old grains. Blurring the lines sounds like, is like as close as you can get. It's a layup.

In a song lyric to burning the rice. Yeah. You changed it to charring old grains. That's a good note. Blurring the lines should have been burning the rice. Is. You changed it to charring old grains. That's a good note. Blurring the line should have been burning the rice. Is that what you're saying? No.

But what's the next line? Whenever you ask Hazen a question, the answer is always no. So just stop looking towards him. I got to scald till the rice overcooks. The hoisin will glob to my hands is that how you pronounce it poison or glob that girl is ho yeah that's really good when you're burning

the rice or Frank cauterized grains sear thus and that's instead of you can't escape my eyes. Mmm. So. The other ones we've just been blowing through so fast and I just feel like we've been stuck in this. We're making a meal of this rice song. Yeah, well this, but this is

you're intentionally getting further away from the the source sounds and that I resent I like that noise this is one thing that I think we can explore feels like the beginning of like a Sergio

Leone movie right that's like the that's like the weather vein it almost sounds like the word of the week sound effect yeah what time are we at casey we've been going for about uh 39 minutes all right we have to move on wow well that's actually very surprising yeah that's impressive maybe he's on to something with all those really fast things we didn't do anything with uh i'm going to hold my number down here.

I would have said, I would have given it the old Jack Bauer, man. I would have said 24. Mine's 21. Oh, yeah. 21 minutes? Yes. Oh, wow.

Time flies when you're having fun. You guys might like this segment better. So you're bringing down the house. This is Jeopardy! Jeopardy! Real quick, just so you guys know, Jeopardy is pretty much the apex of the HeadGum podcast. This is like the red carpet. I'm feeling that already. Yes, I'm feeling that already. I do bring out Jeopardy for important episodes.

We almost said Jeopardy. Yeah, we can cut that. It's Jeopardy. But this is an exciting moment. Built on a site called Jeopardy Labs. We did this at a live show, and it was a hit. The commenters love it. What are we talking about for ticket sales for a HeadGum a live show and it was a hit. What are we talking about for ticket sales?

Commenters love it. Who are the commenters? Not great. There was like 250 people. Fuck. It was rolled into like a weekend of festivities so it's hard to like

say specifically. Okay. I just like I just sort of wonder where but all the all the reactions to this episode will be like holy shit they're doing jefferty that way i went right to jefferty this is like the most exciting part yeah well skip straight to jefferty if you want guys i guess if it ends up being 250 people coming to a live show if that's like if i can get like a piece of that i'm like i'm ready

to engage for that i just so far have not been like being able to pinpoint where the upside is for me in any of this but if it is like a piece of that uh person audience for a live show means like yes okay and i was you know i was on jeopardy and i lost did you know that no okay i thought you said that you were gonna like do gotcha journalism and be mean and stuff. I thought this would be a very easy, this is a layup. Right. This is like blurring the lines becoming burning the rice for you to be like, Hayes, I know you suck shit at this or whatever.

You lost. Right. That would have required more research on my part, I guess. Okay. This is Jeopardy Hollywood edition. Right. Like, that would have required more research on my part, I guess. Okay. This is Jeopardy! Hollywood Edition. Okay. You did,

okay. Here's some upside. We'll do this again like we used to do. This is for actual cash. So, the numbers you see on the screen will be,

I will Venmo you. Okay. Here we go. Jeopardy! Hollywood Edition. Team one is gonna be Sean. Team two is Amir.

Team three is hayes do we have a buzzer or anything we do uh our categories are iconic where's the buzzer you don't see the buzzer okay but you'll hear it okay the categories are iconic la fair all things gower barnstall art parks faults joan didion's los angeles and fairfax hidden gems are we clear on this yeah all right um sean why don't you start us off okay i'll go uh all things gower for 200 all things gower for 200 the best music mastering facility on Gower Street. That's really specific. And then I say, do I have to answer in the form of a question?

You do. You gotta buzz in first. Yeah. Um, okay. What is Siren Studios? Oh. That's really close to Gower. Yeah.

That was a really good guess. It's on Hollywood, but it's really close. Mm-hmm. Do you guys want to steal? I don't know the answer. So he lost $200. Yeah.

Yeah, you at this point owe me $200. I owe you $200. Okay. So just, yeah. I do not, I don't want to do, I don't know the answer, so I don't want to lose money. I don't want to lose money, and it's not called a steal. We were looking for what is Bernie Grundman's mastery. Okay, I've never heard of that, so I'm glad I didn't say anything.

Amir controls the board. Why? Just for some reason. Barnsdall Art Parks faults for 100. Barnsdall Art Parks faults for 100. One of Barnsdall Art Parks faults for 100. One of Barnstall Art Parks faults. Okay, go ahead. There's no bathroom.

I mean, I don't disagree with you, but that's ultimately incorrect. I just don't feel confident enough that what I would say would... It's just one thing that's up there? There's only one answer. For this one, yeah. 200 and 300. Okay. Some of the other questions have more than one answer?

This, I guess this like subjectively has different answers, but there is a right answer. Well, there's three categories. There's three. I think this is going to be the clue for every single one. Yeah, so for this category, I just probably won't guess at all because what if I guess the answer that's right, but it's not for this question.

But it's not for this one? You were looking for what is it's not open until 6 a.m. Okay. So you are showing up. Trying the gate. 3-6. Absolutely correct. 5-40.

Hayes controls the board. Let's go back to Gower for 300, please. All things Gower for 300. And they discourage you. Oh, ding, ding. Gower's Gulch, yes. What is Gower Gulch? Oh.

Okay. You know what? Actually, no. I'll give you that one. Great. So that's $300. I'll give you that. That's $300 in your pocket.

That's actually ultimately coming from Amir and John. Okay. What is another name for John T. Gower's Grundle? Okay. And he got that Hayes controls the board I'm gonna go to

Iconic LA Fair for 200 Iconic LA Fair What I was gonna say was they Don't like you to bounce around between the different categories Because it would make Alex really confused and upset. And he would start reading the wrong question, and they'd go, Alex! Alex!

And he would stop, and they would be like, okay, could all of the contestants please turn around? And we would turn around and i honestly am the least qualified person to say what happened when we did that because i was turned around right but they had to then do something to alex to alex to the to the game to the audience like i don't know and you don't know what happened you don't know what happened. I don't know. I was turned around. I have no idea. But they were really, really scared of what happened. Because my strategy was to go to different categories. Right. And hop around.

Because then everyone else, like, they're stuck in the Gower mindset. You know what I mean? But I'm ahead of them on what the new category is. You're able to adapt. Yes. I want to buzz in. Yeah. I want to buzz in on this.

Okay. The place that, the best place to get those thick ass pancakes That daddy likes That's right that's what I would say I'm not guessing again I'm already in the black But that would be my guess That's ultimately not correct

Where is all day baby But I'm not going to take any away From you because Dupars also does have thick pancakes. And it sort of depends on what you're- Well, this is iconic LA fair, right? Yeah. So Dupars, which is an LA institution, it's where Bosh's wife got shot on the TV show Bosh, and has been like a part of the sort of grow farmer's market and existed for whatever, 50 years, 60 years. You used to have three locations.

Yeah. Only one. Is iconic. The sign is iconic. The pies are iconic. And the pancakes are famous. Like all of their stuff says the world's best pancakes. All Day Baby has existed for six months.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's such a specific location. So it is not iconic LA fair. Can I just say though, like LA's obvious, it's always been a city of transplants. And try telling that to somebody

who moved to like Larissa Street two months ago. Gladly. Sean, seems like you just did try doing that. Okay. Joe Didion's Los Angeles for 100 please in a pool probably

buzz where did Joan Didion lose her virginity oh my god what I'm trying to get in the mind of his fucking Jesus logic. Come on. This whole game show is kind of absurd.

It's going to be like, where did Joan Didion do something? What was the last thing you said? Me? Yeah. Virginity. I forget. Oh yeah. This whole show is kind of absurd.

Nobody else wants to take a guess? Casey? He can play? Sort of like a guess swing. Bone of friend. In a pool, probably. Jeff wrote the answers. Well, now...

I'm going to pass it to Kevin. Where was Joan when President Nixon resigned? That's just inferred because she was also in a pool when she found out about the Manson murders. Interesting. According to the White Album. Amir controls the board for some reason. Fair facts.

Found out about the Manson murders. Well, what if I had... Hey, did you hear? What if I had guessed... There's a guy named Charles Manson. There'd be no probably. You guys might be pissed because all of these are really specific

and a little bit subjective, but there's room for error here. I did give one... Oh yeah, I have $300. Fairfax hidden gems for $100. An outdoor mall with a locals-only air for $100 An outdoor mall with a locals only air to it An outdoor mall With a locals only air to it

It's on Fairfax I was supposed to say The Grove Correct Okay Some of them are just pretty straight forward Sean is making up Some ground What is the grove

Okay So you think that the grove Is giving off a locals only I've never felt welcome there So you're not a local You just moved to La Russa Street Sean controls the

Well let's stay on Fairfax Hidden Gems Let's you know 200 Yeah 200 please Where are you from I'm from Clevelandio okay so this is like this is a night like you could have started there like there's a lot if you guys are open to

it we should have just done a wax episode it seems like you would really enjoy literally what i said at the yeah if you stick around here long enough you might even be able to see Drew Carey IRL. I'm going for The Grove again. Not correct. CBS, television, studio. That's absolutely correct. Studio, sure. Did you minimize? Okay.

So I get $200 more. You do get, ultimately, you're up $500. Okay. Trying to get to zero. Hayes controls the board. Let's go back to Gower for 100 All things Gower for 100 White White

White So we're looking for a question The answer is white About Gower Buzz in What color is the word Gower on street signs? That's definitely incorrect.

That's just as good a guess as any. I'm ready to see what the answer is. Okay. What was early Hollywood pioneer John T. Gower's race? Interesting. Were you guys considering that? I was thinking it was about people

and I was wondering like you know people who live on Gower or something but I feel like these were designed in a way which they do encourage you to do on Jeopardy where you just like pick a category and just kind of go in order. Yeah. And so the sequence of the answers was what was John T. Gower's race?

White. White. What is the nickname? The best mastering facility on Gower. That was the second one? That was the second one. Okay, it was Bernie Grunman. Bernie Grunman. Okay, and then it was the Gower Gulch is the nickname

for John T. Gower's. Grundle. Grundle. Yeah, private area. So that makes my lose your virginity guess make more sense, right? Because he does sometimes go. Well, it depends on what.

I don't think you'd go that for a 100-point question. I didn't think it was a bad guess. Maybe we're building to that. What I'll also say is it feels like nobody's been able to get their footing. Let's go Iconic LA Fair for 100. Iconic LA Fair for 100. Let's do it. You can almost buy two of those edible arrangements.

Undercooked beef with a side of corn and potato hash. This is probably like, since I know the area he operates in, I'm guessing this has something to do with the Tam O'Shanter, but I'm not actually guessing that. I'll give it to you. That's really good. It is the prime rib from Lowry's prime rib, but equally as iconic as the Tam O'Shanter.

Okay, great. Hayes controls the board. You're also seemingly doing really well at this. Let's go back to iconic LA Fair. How to get kicked out of Nizawa Bar. Oh. Ask for a cut roll. That's interesting because there's a hand roll.

The answer we're looking for is what is by doing the omakase and then complaining why they don't have fries. Sean controls the board okay uh fairfax hidden gems please for 300 a place where pessimists like to eat oh isn't there a place called dang it like glass half empty or something yeah it's called something like that like a bar called called Glass Half Empty. Yeah. So that's Amir's guess. Is that your guess? That's his official guess. If it's right, I'll take it. No, I mean, I'll take it.

Damn it. That was bait. What is Cantor's Deli? Why? They can't. I see. So why don't you give me the board? Sure.

Let's go back to Joan Didion's Los Angeles. This category. Community. Okay. sure let's go back to joan didion's los angeles this category community okay i'm ready for the answer what was didion surprised to find while living in her pacific coast highway house that's interesting because when the santaas blow in and wildfires ablaze and abound is a line oftentimes

the residents of Malibu have to kind of band together what book is that from this is not a quote this is a sentence I'm saying

okay let's do Barnsdale Art Parks Fault of course for 200 another one of Barnsdale Art Parks Fault. Of course. For $200.

Another one of Barnesville Art Parks Faults. I'm gonna say, just so we, like, get through it faster, I'm gonna potentially give up $200 by saying Too Many Stairs. Okay. We were looking for what is, it's sort of

like Tone Deafly Towers over a mixed income neighborhood with its manicured grounds flashy mansion and taunting jacarandas i mean how would you feel if you were in hospice at kaiser peering out your window and seeing a group of pansexual esthetes at a birthday picnic drinking pet nat from cans and don't say but it's like a petite natural it's like a sparkling one and don't say but it's open to the public Because I've never felt welcome there That's what you also said about the grove

I don't feel welcome here Okay Let's do art parks vaults For 300 A third vault of Barnstall art park I wonder if it's the bathroom thing now What is no snack hut It felt like it was going to be a short art park. I wonder if it's the bathroom thing now. What is no snack?

It felt like it was going to be a short. We did like a short one and then one that was really long and then he did like. Yeah, so that's that's in the vein of what I expected and that's the

last one. What do we normally get in terms of... This was Jeopardy! How many commenters are we talking about? Like, is it... Around like 100 per episode, 80 to 120. Is that really how many?

Yeah, that sounds about right. Wow. They go crazy for Jeopardy, though. Okay. What are all these other... There's so many other tabs open. Those are bookmarks, right? Oh, those are bookmarks.

Okay. Two different banks. Yeah, well, Bank of America... I just want to say, like... Since I started working with this podcast network... Yes. I feel like a lot of promise I had really high expectations So far

We've had one Audio failure one video failure That's like been like sort of what has Taken place in the last two to four weeks and now I learn that the host Of the head gum podcast Is selling out 250 Seat theaters has taken place in the last two to four weeks. And now I learn that the host of the HeadGum podcast is selling out 250 seat theaters doing this show. He only did that once.

Gets 100 commenters for every episode that he puts on YouTube and is in a position to be bookmarking two different banks. Two banks. He needs to bookmark two different banks well bank of america is my checking account wells fargo is my credit card and then ufb direct is actually my savings because they have a five percent apy so it's like if you're gonna park your money somewhere have access to it you might as well be making money on your money apy um plugs what do you guys want to point the people to social media

the show I guess the head gun podcast yeah I mean feels like the only way we're gonna get traction here is if we can keep doing this show we can somehow be associated with this more I would love to do a wax episode with you guys

to sort of make good would you do one again soon yeah I just you say people are like really responding to it to do a wax episode with you guys to sort of make good. Would you do one again soon? Yeah, I just love it. But you say people are like really responding to it. I love Jeopardy. Jeopardy is like a number one. Rice Song probably number two.

This was a best of episode. This is as good as it gets. 250 tickets. Gone. Sold out. And it's just like calling this the HeadGum Podcast. I out. And it's just like calling this the HeadGum podcast.

I just feel like it's not like connecting back to HeadGum really. Like, I don't know. I am searching. I'm like trying to find

purchase here at this place at HeadGum. Well, it started as like a happy hour just talking to people at the network. That sounds great.

Yeah. Like, that sounds really not like people are just like passing through there. They're all chilling. Yeah. This is like bizarrely formal. It's like very regimented. I feel like we didn't get to know.

There's a lot of room to move. Yeah, exactly. There's got to be something in between a wax episode, which I'm told people don't want. Yeah. Wax is too loose. Yeah, wax is too loose. Too unstructured.

Too much. People, like staffers at the network like the segments, I think, because they don't have to participate as much. Maybe the mistake is that you guys bring a lot to the table and we don't need as much of an outline. Yeah. Yeah, maybe.

Maybe. Maybe I'm the problem i agree yeah maybe it was us bringing too much to the table yeah yeah um social media no no thanks no amir oh my god follow me on instagram you're still trying to sell your instagram handle, right? Yeah, still trying to sell that. What is it? Just a mirror. Subscribe to the flagrant ones. Subscribe to the flagrant ones. Go around, head gum.

Yeah. Give the money directly to the Patreon page. Didn't you used to have a Twitter handle that you changed it and so you lost your little star or whatever? Yeah, it used to be Jake and Amir. Jake and Amir. It was verified and then I moved it

to just Blumenfeld. Right. And then I lost the verification. As you two were going your kind of separate ways on stuff creatively. Not really that,

but yeah, we wanted to separate personal and. I have a plug. Yeah. Minus the Jake. Yeah. Vimeo.com

slash Lonely and Horny. Lonely and Horny. Well, the poster says Lonely. It does. I Jake. Yeah. Vimeo.com slash Lonely and Horny. Lonely and Horny. Well, the poster says Lonely and Horny. It does. I see. Yes. Do you not know that? There was a typo.

There's a typo on the poster in the kitchen. It should have redirected. You don't know that it says Lonely and Horny? My pitch was that it should say Lonely and Hanley. Yeah, Vimeo.com. I've only been here two to four weeks yeah that's a long time

to notice the type the typo is buried it's really hard to find so it's really well then I guess my other pitch is that it should be easier to find because

that's how that's what you need people to be going to yeah it's like the one actionable thing in the poster my pitch actually

is that it should be lornly and hornyne-ly and horny. Lorne-ly and horny? Colin, I'm trying to get it wet this weekend. I'm looking to bust. At Jeffrey James on

Instagram. At Jeff Brody on Twitter. We'll see you guys again next week. We were just, we were really just that was a Hidgum Original.