The Headgum Podcast - 174: The Shit Wall

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

Marika, Casey, and Pile (The Pit Wall podcast) join Geoff to discuss Formula One, simulating Headgum's financials, and a potential Headgum Podcast live show!Advertise on The Headgum Podcast via Gumball.fmRate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on Apple PodcastsRate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on SpotifyJoin the Headgum DiscordSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Previously on the HeadGum Podcast. What I don't want for my birthday is anybody to be frowning for any reason. The entire day? Yeah. And just in your, like people you know or the entire world? Strangers. So if I'm walking on the street and I hear somebody kind of crying,

I better see a smiling face when I come over there. if you hear a frown just like the silent creasing of a forehead by the way this is new york city so there's gonna be people frowning on the sidewalk well we'll have to switch it up for just a day is that all right i don't ask me i won't be there i promise you i won't frown next friday okay thank you uh but we were going to talk about hair uh grayson you have short hair brad you have short hair i can't believe you're doing this pile do you know what this is? No. Is that the Gran Turismo? No.

Boom, boom, she, she. Welcome. Nice. Welcome to the shit wall. It's like hats. What was that song? That's the theme song to the fucking show you host. To the shit wall. Is it really?

Yeah. Do you want me to do that whole intro again? I worked kind of hard on it. I legitimately did not. I even listened to a recent episode. You probably skipped from the original part. So here we go. This is the theme song to the show that we all host.

Mostly Casey, but yeah. Me and Marika. Hey, thanks. I mean, yeah, it's a banger. I mean, yeah, it's a banger. Vroom, vroom, boom, boom, shee, shee. Yeah. So it's boom, boom, shee, shee.

Welcome to the shit wall. This is the Jeff One podcast podcast for uh shit fans It's a podcast about the goings on of the world of Formula 1. We talk about all of the boys and their expensive toys and how they drive them all around the

world. And then we also watch movies when there's no races. I'm your Shodcast principal,ffrey donahue and i'm joined by marika you guys are married congrats it was a small wedding now i'm embarrassed that we didn't invite pile shot me too uh i'm joined by marika wef Brownlee. That's won't ever finish. Andrew Dialup, as in he's old and he loves tech.

And Casey Donna, who cares about Formula One? That's a great question. Yeah. That we ask our audience every week. Would you say that this is similar to how the pit wall goes so far? So far? So, so yeah.

Yeah. Um, let's talk about Sims. Oh God. Look at your guys's energy. Look at your guys. You can see, I still don't know if I'm in a

trap right now yeah I'm really I'm having a hard time figuring out what the tone of this is am I being attacked or do I act a friend or an enemy this so far that was all the attacks

on your guys's character that i had planned but the rest is gonna you know who knows what hasn't what i have in store other than me um this is the shit wall but yeah you podcast yeah for shit fans like fans of shit no like shitty fans oh like casual fans no these these No, like shitty fans. Oh. Like casual fans? No, these fans are pretty shitty. They don't actually watch the races.

They don't show up to the records. But it's a Jeff One podcast, so is it shitty fans of you? Exactly. So this episode is for the shittiest fans of me. Got it. Got it? Or we're all smiling and having a good time? It's the people that don't watch the HeadGum podcast.

They don't watch HeadGum sketches. They're tuning in to the YouTube channel just to watch the Jake and Amir videos. This episode is for fans of the pit wall who haven't heard the HeadGum podcast. Nobody. It doesn't exist. Actually, no, there might be. Not a real person. There genuinely might be someone.

Someone did DM us like, who is this Jeff guy? It was me. It was me. I DM'd that. Oh, yeah, fair. Can we imagine for a second a world where there's a HeadGum sim? Like a racing sim, but for HeadGum? Well, racing sim is just a simulator, right?

So it's a simulation of a race yeah this is a simulation of the goings-on of head gum right so let's say if we played the sims but made all of us characters well less so the sims and more like a what what is the racing sim called what's the name of that game oh there's all sorts of games uh the racing sim is a piece of equipment it's a steering wheel and pedals that you plug into the metal gaming system or your gaming pc got it if it was a head gum simulator though what would happen it wouldn't be like the sims marika so don't say that again but basically it's like if the company was simulated how would things be different how would things be the same how do you think that might go let Let's simulate it for five years.

What do you think happens? Pyle, are we looking at a sale? Are we selling to iHeartRadio? Are we selling to Shopify? That'd be great. Not a typo, but not Spotify. Do those exist? Do what exist?

In five years? In five years in this sim that we've created? Yeah, how is iHeartRadio doing in five years? This is a pretty expansive sim that it's also simulating other companies. It's open world. It's open concept. It's an open floor plan.

It's expansive. You wake up in the morning, you'd have to decide what copy shop of the five copy shops around you in Silver Lake to go to. Who are we playing? Ourselves or not? We're playing ourselves.

We're not like Marty. That's the thing. NBA players will always be like, you'll be doing the press day, the media day that just happened earlier this week where they're like, I gotta admit, I don't play as myself in 2K. I play as LeBron. let's go down the line if you were doing a head gum sim who would you want to like play hmm is this is this just whose job do you want

it's a little bit more complicated than that because it isn't a sim um uh well i'd say if it was if i'm playing this head gum sim uh the the role to be is marty because yeah you make you make you're making all the the the decisions for the track that that the sim is gonna be on right it's like but but the question, do you want that authority? Do you want that responsibility? Like in the Sim or in real life, do I want to be CEO of head covers? In the Sim, but the stakes are high.

In the Sim, yeah, sure. I will try all sorts of crazy things. If it fucks up, I'll reset it. That's true, that's true. But you're just on the phone all day talking to people. That's what I was going to say. In the sim, I would automate that stuff.

It's like creating a franchise in a sports video game. But if you're not on the phone all day, wouldn't it fail? That is the question, isn't it? And that's what the sim would answer. That's not the question. Basically, in the job was content creator sim work i feel like that's a more exciting sim well here's the real question are we not in a sim right now when we're playing the head gum sim are we also using pedals and a steering wheel

all right in that case i do want want to be Marty because he has the biggest car. He has the biggest and bestest car. He's the nicest car. I might want to go Jake just because he gets the cash of Marty but with an eighth of the work. Right? So he gets to

do the pit wall or not. He has the Brooklyn townhouse. He has the budget for a place upstate. And it's almost better, I would say, to have the budget for a place upstate than to have the place upstate. I think Pyle can speak to this. Agreed. 100%.

100%. Because you forget that. You want the money. Yeah. You don't want the slab foundation with the massive crack in the middle. You know what I mean? And because the thing about slab foundation, Casey, is that you can't get under

there. There's no fucking crawl space. So you're talking about tearing up flooring and having to seal it. You're not talking about going underneath the fucking beams. Yeah, man. You're preaching to the choir. We all know. I'm a basement guy

for life. What's that? Crawl space. What do you mean by that? Can you, like, sorry, you have to be better rested if you're going to say that sentence because you look like you haven't slept in a year. I haven't slept in like three years. I'm so exhausted. Your kid is like five, right?

Why is he still keeping you up? Just turned three. I don't think it's him that's keeping me up. I think it's... The sim. The stress. The stress of my life. Yeah, the sim. I'm not putting my character him that's keeping me up. I think it's the Sim. The stress of my life. Yeah, the Sim.

I'm not putting my character to sleep at all. Yeah. Marika, who would you want to be in the Sim? I said Jake. I'd also want to be Marty. But I don't understand. If I'm playing Marty in the Sim, do I just have to do the things that Marty does every day?

Or can I make my own path for this Marty character and see what happens? Like, can I take the race? Do I have to take the racing line? Or can I go off to the side? Yes. You're asking if you can let Dee die?

No, I would never. I would never. I would never. I'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? It's just a soundboard of things that we've said. On the pit wall, yeah. But this is the shit wall, so we're talking about the heck of the sound.

This is the most work you've ever put into a show. Yeah. Sheesh. uh perfect segue uh i woke up in a new bugatti and some of these drivers woke up in various other kinds of sports cars this is a segment i like to call drs or repossess. Here we have some of those things. Who don't know what DRS is. It's drag reduction system. Exactly right. Otherwise known as the slipstream.

Exactly. Yes. Kind of. Sure. Kind of. So this is a two part. This is kind of a two pronged game. Rather, we're going to get you.

I'm showing you guys cars. You're going to tell me which driver on the f1 grid this car belongs to and then you're gonna say drs or repossessed there's no wrong answers it's just would you use this to drive in a slipstream or would you like rather send this to a junkyard specifically in a slipstream behind who like so i'm driving i'm driving this car right behind somebody else behind marty in the sim but you're in real life does this all make sense yeah this is charles's car yeah it's definitely charles's car it's ferrari it's got the white and red stripe yeah yeah and are you drs singer are you repossessing? Absolutely DRSing. But I can't drive. Can I drive in the same?

I didn't know that. Can I ask you, so Pyle, are you into cars? Can I ask? Yeah, I'm into cars. So what makes this a million dollars, but a stock Lamborghini is like 200 grand? Well, this is like a fully custom higher-end Ferrari. Lamborghini only makes like three cars or two cars.

I think so. Lamborghini is the poor man's Ferrari. Is that true? I don't know anything about these things. You know what I like? I like the old Land Rover Defenders. If I had a dream car, it'd be that. Yeah, but those are like $100,000 restored. Well, yeah, they are now. So why is this a million dollars?

It's made out of carbon fiber. It's probably got like a V12. It's all under the hood, man. You know what? I'm going to change my answer for the headgum sim. If I was in the headgum sim, I would be Pyle and then I would quit. And then I would leave the sim and go back

to resuming my life that way pile wouldn't be at the company anymore i'm confused so yeah i don't you would quit the game you're playing as we call and you quit the game no i would play as pile and i would quit the company and then i would resume normal life pile would in the sim yes as my you're still you're still simulating after he quit the company yeah because then i can live in that reality for a minute okay we've never talked about this this is the worst time of my life in a way i mean look at me look at the trim in your house man i mean the fucking the olive tone so dark in here And you don't even mean just visually. You mean

energetically. Here we go. Yes. It's all bad. D-R-S or repossess. And who do you think this belongs to? Lance Stroll. Gotta be Lance's. You think this is Lance? Yeah. Yeah. I hate to... I kind of love to break things to you guys. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. Is this Fernando's?

This is Max's. Wow. What? Really? Because we forget that you don't... That's right. There is no Red Bull car. Yeah.

It'd be funny if he drove around in one of those Red Bull RAV4s. Yeah, I was going to say. A Red Bull street team thing. A Red Bull Flugtag, you know, one of those planes that they make that they shoot into a river. Yeah, but he just like flies it and lands it in parallel parks

to get coffee. DRS or Repossess? I think Repossess. Really? I like DRS over the Ferrari. There's something classier about this, I think that I would DRS over the Ferrari There's something classier about this I think

There's something about this photo that makes it look like a Craigslist like used car I get that I get that for sure I don't know though I think This looks so much faster Faster? You'd have to The only place you can drive this

is like on Rodeo to get like a shitty lunch. This looks fast. Can I see the other one? This looks like it's got like leather interior that's peeling because it's been in the sun

for too long. Yeah. Apparently Max Verstappen has a road-approved version of James Bond's car in the film Spectre. That's a DB5. That's also a really cool car.

DB11, actually. This is the DB11, then. Holy shit. All right, here we go. Well, he has like five Aston Martin's. Moving on. DRS or Repossess? Well, that's a Red Bull racing car.

Is that Checo in that car? That's absolutely correct He's in the passenger seat by the way But this is his car Is he really? I don't think this is his car According to the internet this is Checo's car And he doesn't even drive it

He drives a Civic Type R Can we all agree Checo's a bottom? He's a sub 100% he's never been on top He's definitely a wife guy. Big wife guy. Repossessed. I don't like

the colors are bad. Yeah, I don't really like these boxy kind of cars. Me either. But this looks like it could take a corner really well. Yeah, but that's that BW golf nonsense where it's like car guys, their entry level is the golf

because it's technically a good build. But it's just the equivalent of a Seiko SKX. It ultimately doesn't matter. Jeff, you clearly know things about cars. I don't know stuff about this kind of car. I've never looked into the Ferrari or the McLaren of it all. Honestly, me neither, because I'm like, I can't afford these things. Why even bother spending my time learning about...

Even if I did have that much money, I wouldn't spend it on this. But I would spend it on, say it with me now, an awesome car. Oh, yeah. DRS or Repossess? Repossess. say it with me now. An awesome car. Yeah. Oh, yeah. DRS or Repossess? Repossess. Yeah. And I think you guys know whose car this is.

It's got to be Lewis's. It's Drew's. It's Drew's. I actually know what Lewis drives. I'm going to wonder if you get this one right. Well, Lewis has a whole fleet, so I don't know. He does have multiple cars, but I'm wondering which one you're gonna choose it's not the one you think it is i don't know mclaren um yeah this is a bummer car

i hate this is this is it even in such a bad place it's not an amg and also it's a coupe two-door uh sedan basically what like why this photo in like a parking structure of no this i think i think this setting is perfect for this car the environment around it is what i feel like looking at it but it could it could like catfish you maybe in another location. I think this is an AMG to his credit because I think it's a V8 on the side there. It would say AMG.

I think it says AMG on the front grill. Alright. And it's got the carbon fiber. DRS or repossess. I hate this. You know, both... This is a Batman car. I'll take any Ferrari.

I don't even know what model Ferrari this is. This is such a weird hood treatment. I don't think this is... That's, like, not standard, is it? I don't know. No, this is Batman's car, for sure. This is Sainz's car, for sure. And Carlos.

Well, what's the difference? Yeah. I like how nobody knows what we're talking about. Yeah. For sure. It's the shit wall. All right. Jesus.

I would DRS. I'm not going to repossess this car because ideally I would be in the passenger seat. Yeah. Okay. Married to signs. Right. you got it why are we doing this on the head gum podcast this is this is we could have done this as just a regular pit wall episode this is good if it's good then they will come right basically i'm trying to do like this is a segment we were doing the pit wall but this is expanding the audience to be like hey head

gum podcast audience you should listen to the fucking pit wall. Alright, can we talk about Carlos Sainz again for one second? It's an 812 competizione. And you know what it's replacing? I think Marika, you know this.

Marika? He used to drive a Golf, just like yours truly. I don't know that. There's a video where they go around the driver's briefing and they ask everybody what they drive. Oh yeah, I have to see that. D-R-S or Repossess.

D-R-S, McLarens are stupid. Really? Except for the actual McLaren F1 car, which is the best car ever made. I kind of like McLaren's designs more than Ferrari's. I don't like how short the hood is. Oh, I agree. This to me looks like a modern version of a fucking... What's the Back to the Future car?

The DeLorean. Like if this was in steel? I don't even think this has gullwing doors. How can car? The DeLorean. Like if this was in steel. I don't even think this has gullwing doors. How can it be the DeLorean? I like this color. This is great. Yeah, it's like a creamier color than... It matches your entire energy.

Because it matches like... Like you have the wood that matches the leather sofa. You have the waltz hat that kind of matches that. You have the hair and then you have the car. I wouldn't be. You have the waltz hat that kind of matches that. You have the hair, and then you have the car. You know what I like about these cars? If you ever see them in real life, they come up to like your hip. Yeah. They are so small.

It's so cool. You got to feel the road, man. Yeah, you got to feel the rush of the road. Of course. So we're saying repossess? Yeah. Okay. I would say DRS, but that's fine.

DRS or repossess? It's got to be Lewis's. Lewis. This is his daily driver, though. He does have that purple gullwing. Yeah, for a daily driver, I would DRS. Yeah. Looks sturdy.

In his GQ interview, I believe he drove around in a smart car. Is that true? Yeah. That's funny. What a guy. What GQ interview was this? It was a couple years ago after he lost to Max at the end of the season. Was it like a video?

No, no, it was not a video. Oh, okay. I'm going to say repossessed. This is like a soccer mom car, and I'm not about it. No, I like it. Gotta get the G-Wagon. I don't know why you would get... What about the E-Wagon? I don't know why you would get... What about the E-Wagon?

E, mid-range looking... Okay. Pyle hates me. DRS or Repossess? Oh, DRS. This is an awesome car. I would Repossess. Repossess is ugly as sin.

What is this? DRS. Roger Rabbit's greatest villain's car awesome car. I would repossess his ugly son. What is this? Roger Rabbit's greatest villain's car? Oh. What is this? It's an SL, right? Is this Fernandez?

This is Ocon's. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah, this is Ocon's car. That's upsetting. Could smell it. Who else is driving a Type R Civic? Stop. Back for stabbing. It's Yuki.

Is this Yuki's car? This is Yuki's actual car DRS that totally works for me repossess but yes repossess repossess yeah

alright and last one love it for Yuki this is piles DRS or repossess well it's Ferrari colors so I imagine the engine must be real nice

it's good I wish I had a tractor so bad that'd be really cool so I imagine the engine must be real nice. It's good. I wish I had a tractor so bad. That'd be really cool. I mean, for the people listening at home, those were a bunch of cars that we just looked at that you couldn't see. We just looked at a bunch of photos of cars. Just luxury cars, looking at photos of of cars yeah just luxury cars looking at

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Yeah. There were no upsets in Q1. Everyone who is not in Q2, you would expect to not be in Q2. Wonderful. Yeah. Was that me? It's like, I have to do something else, and I started putting together my new vacuum. You went through the trouble of sampling. Yeah, you clipped that.

Okay, that is me Okay Here is a segment Stolen from the pit wall basically But we're gonna once again adjust it for the Head gum as a company Every week when we're Talking about the race we basically go

From bottom to top We What the fuck are you talking about go from bottom to top. We? I'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah. Yes. I hate that. I hate this one.

Please don't ever do that again. Oh, God. Whoever's on the show goes bottom to top in the Constructors Championship and talks about how that team... No, we do. No, it's per race.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is per race. But it is by points that they receive in the championship. You're both kind of right. But by team was my point. Marika is definitely right.

Jeff, you're kind of right. Thank you. So I thought that we could basically go from bottom to top of who's good at head gum, right? And this is in chronological order of my personal rankings and just say how many points we think they should get this week on the shit wall. Does that make sense? Okay.

Okay. Like their performance this week at the company we're rating right now. In a way, basically it's, yeah. Who did the best or sorry, who did the worst to best at the company this week? Is it by teams? I wanted to do by teams. I really did. I don't know the difference between the sales team

and the partnership team, and I don't know who's on it or not. So basically, I tried to do it by team. We're going to have to do it by drivers or by individuals. Is that fair? Yeah. Let's start at the very bottom with Peter. Radio silence from Peter in the slacks.

I don't know what he does at the company. So we're going to start at the very bottom with Peter. Radio silence from Peter in the slacks. I don't know what he does at the company. So we're going to start with him. What do we have to say about his performance this week? Is he on the tech team? Yes. Okay, so Pyle, why don't you speak on it? He's doing great. Okay, okay.

He also has a fully different time zone than all of us. Where does he live? He just moved to France. What? Whoa, really? When? Some say he brought the bedbugs to Paris. Is that a known thing?

Are there bedbugs in Paris? Oh, yeah. It's an epidemic, yeah. It's a bad situation, yeah. Look, I don't know what Peter does day to day, and I don't hear from him day to day, but whatever he's doing, I'm sure it's great. I've always thought that about that guy.

Yep. Yes. All right, moving up one rung. We're going to have to hit him with Michelle. Sales team or partnerships? Adams. What the fuck is the difference? She works on Gumball or partnerships? Add-ons. What the fuck is the difference? She works on Gumball or what?

Mostly I'm talking about people who haven't fucking said jack shit in the Slack. How am I supposed to know that they're doing their job? He's becoming more head gum show Jeff now. Yeah. We've turned the corner. For a while he was like trying to be Pitwall Jeff, and now he's becoming... I didn't hear anything from Michelle this week.

So how am I supposed to know that she did her job? I saw her in the office. I saw her in the office, so I know she did her job. Yeah, well, I was in the office, and I did my job. What is your job? We don't know if that's true, Jeff. We never know if that's true. A HeadGum podcast came out today.

A sketch is being shot today at noon because I wrote it in script format. Yeah. You did say that you were available all day to record this podcast, and I looked at the calendar, saw the sketch shoot, and was like, I'm going to suggest the morning. Yeah.

And also, to be clear, I did have to ping you about uploading the video podcast and I also had to edit the ad markers on Art19 because you fucked those up. Alright, zero points for Jeff. No, no, no. I don't upload the audio episode. That was Grace Harper, so you can't

pin that shit on me. Pin that on Grace, but you never do. Nobody ever fucking says that Grace does anything wrong. Shout out Grace, by the way, because she will be editing this. Actually, she did a great job because she did upload it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't say Grace did a great job. You can't say Grace did a great job because you know it's Grace. Because actually, I would have done a great job if you thought it was me.

Zero points this week. Actually, Jeff DNF'd. Zero points. DNF for Jeff. Yeah. And a five-point penalty next race. This sucks. This sucks. A little bit for the day.

Starting from the shit wall. Yeah, I think. No, we're ending with that shit. We're ending with that shit. Okay, moving on. I haven't heard from Ryan in a minute. I haven't heard from Ryan in a minute. I haven't heard from Ryan in a minute. All the people I talk to, you're like, what are they doing?

Yeah, you're literally calling out the VPs of the company. Can I ask you this? Why are all these people moving to France, moving to the Hamptons? I want to move to those places. He doesn't live in the Hamptons. Whatever. This sucks. This sucks.

He's in Dallas. He was at VidSum week what's vid summit i don't know fuck this let's go rapid fire all right this is truly my ranking of who i think does a good job at the company this week all right moving on we'll just say good job or bad job or something or point how many points we should afford them gianna uh on vacation this week, but great job. Zero points. DNF. Pyle? DNS.

Yeah, I didn't start. DNS, DNF. Nerissa? Great job. Brad? Great job. Also on vacation. Cohen.

Thumbs up. Great job. Is the entire fucking company on vacation? Kind of. The podcast principal or the fucking the team principal. Marty should be fired for that. I know that we want to have this like hip startup environment, but it's like if you don't stay on people, nothing gets done. Stay on people?

What do you want? Yeah. Hold on. What are you asking for right now no vacation days no vacation days let's just go all the way up to like who i consider to be like the the red bulls of the fucking company let's go ali and me okay okay well ali's max for staffing yeah and i'm Okay. Well, Ali's Max Verstappen. Yeah. And I'm Checo. Never mind. No, I'll be fucking.

You're Alex Albon, man. You were Red Bull and now you're Williams. Um. And my kid sat on my lap and watched like the first lap with me, which is always fun because if there's going to be any crashing, it's a good lap. Why sample that one? Oh my God. Uh, now we're going to move on to the cool down room, which I think should be a staple in the pit wall. And it's not, this is actually my pitch for a fucking segment.

We need more segments. We spend like an hour and 20 minutes talking about the race and then it's like, okay, let's do five quick segments. That's my note for the pit wall. We're about to wrap things up. It's only been 35 minutes almost. The pit wall's too long. It's way too long.

We all know that. But we're passionate about the top. Every episode, we say we has to move on. Yeah, we really try. Throughout the episode. Because we really do. And yet, it's always surprising how much there is to talk about. For sure, for sure.

The cool-down room. Wait, sorry. Sorry, so... What? The cool down room Wait sorry Sorry so What You just did a ranking of Coworkers based on The people that you don't talk to And then said you and

Allie are the top two And nobody else This is just based on this week's Performance this week's race This week Jeff did record The Pit Wall. Misty. Which is a near impossible task for him to do. Wasn't that last week?

I think that was last week. Okay. That was Friday. Well, before this week. Interesting. It came out this week. Yeah. No, I'll take that, though though because last week we recorded two episodes

and Jeff was on both. That's true. Thank you. So I'll give him the points. Enjoy the points, Jeff. Wonderful. Enjoy the points. Yeah, I mean, I would say yeah. Probably not.

Well, I mean, do you guys have anything to add then? Are you saying you don't want to move on past the constructors? No, I thought we've moved on. We did, but Marika was like, hang on a minute. What just happened? Erica? Gone. She's the fucking, what's his name?

The guy who got shit canned in favor of Daniel Ricciardo? Because guess who came back to the company? Who I want back? Comite. Let's get Mike back to the company who i want back comate let's get mike back on the fucking you want to you want you want mike to do erica's job mike is my ricardo right he's my favorite and i want him back in the game i don't care if it's in casey's shoes because that's kind of who he would replace but i want want to keep Casey. I want to keep Checo.

Let's fucking get Mike Comate in the game and Erica's chair in her seat. Pile what? Nothing. Honestly, I think if I could speak

candidly. I'm nervous. Carlos is in the bottom five right now. I think Erica's got one of the worst seats in the office. How so? Because she works in the bathroom. She's closest to the bathroom, closest to the kitchen, a lot of foot traffic.

Those are the two necessities during the day. Yeah, but everybody is walking behind her. Definitely, definitely, definitely. And she could choose her seat. Yeah. I mean, I think none of the seats in that office are good.

I'm going to be real. So every seat in the LA office is like a seat at Williams? Kind of. And then what about, because these are the three main offices. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. This is also what I'm like,

because I feel like this show has gotten so far away from what it began as. We talk about that all the time. We do, and you're always wrong, but continue. My whole thing is that I want it to be talking more about the goings on of the network. I want it to be less cash cowed, and I want it to be more like,

let's hash out the fucking inner workings, right? I just explained where Erica sits in the office yeah it's the most inner working right so i know what i'm gonna say about the quote-unquote three offices we have basically there's three offices there's the la office on sunset boulevard there's the new york office in goop sold offices and then there's piles home office which has recently changed. Let's get that address. You don't know it? I think I sent you this listing.

This listing. Don't call your house a listing because if you're not going to make your house a home, then your home is the one that I must own. Give it here. Is this the cool-down room? The cool-down room could be anything we want, just like in F1. They talk about whatever they want.

It's a wax portion, exactly right. Yeah, but they're usually watching highlights of what they just did. Yeah. Okay, I have Pyle's address. It's 124 Eden Knoll, Rhinebeck, New York, 12572. It's not even it. You're right.

That's Steen Valetti. He just doxxed a random person. Billionaire, yeah. In my neighborhood. That's good. that's good. Steen Valetti was a Rockefeller-built state that's now owned by some tech billionaire. It's like so fucking vast.

And the cars on the grid are so fucking... Fast. Nice. It's like I have to do something else and I started putting together my new vacuum. Why? How do you guys think that the shit all went? I think we should do this again

sometime. Is that fair to say? What do you guys think? I think we might do it again. I don't think anybody's gonna like this episode. I just think we might do it again sometime. Does that make sense? What do you guys think? Carlos is out. I thought it was good. I just think we might do it again sometime. Does that make sense? What do you guys think? Carlos is out. Carlos is out. Jesus Christ. That was the loudest

one I've ever heard. I think it was fine in the beginning. When you like a podcast, you have to take it, adapt it to what you can do on your own show. Are you crying? You like our podcast? Yes. Wow.

That's really nice. It doesn't show by the amount of times that you show up to the recordings. Yeah. That's true. And the number of times where you pick a time to record and don't show up. I thought this went okay.

I do kind of feel confused by your sudden desire to work on marketing the pit wall in a way that is not useful at all but I guess I appreciate the effort and the assist don't say it's not useful at all, you don't know how many people are going to start listening to the pit wall because of this it might be five, but that's something. They're going to start listening at what is arguably the most boring

part of the most boring season in recent memory. Because it's already been decided, basically. It's all over. But we're going to have a bunch of great guests for the first time ever. That's true. Yeah, Riley's going to be on Tuesday's episode

that I think comes out next Wednesday or some shit. Yeah, but no. But what we're doing right now doesn't come out today, right? Correct. No, this comes out next Friday. Next week. Okay, so Riley's episode is already out.

Riley's already been on it, yeah. Listen to the most recent episode. Listen to the most recent episode. Riley's 100-hut this episode. Definitely, definitely. Because if there's one thing about this show is that everyone loves Riley. So if you love Riley,

go listen to that episode of The Pit Wall. Yeah, and if you love me, I'm also on The Pit Wall. Well, and also... Are you going to be on next week with Riley? Yeah. You haven't confirmed. You haven't RSVP'd.

Oh, I'm there. That means nothing. Yeah, You haven't confirmed. You haven't RSVP'd. Oh, I'm there. That means nothing. Yeah, I don't think you are. But hey, look, if you are like, I don't know anything about Formula 1, I don't know what anyone just talked about for the last hour of this show, which

honestly is nothing new because it's kind of unintelligible on its best day. You can listen to Riley's episode of The Pit Wall and be in her shoes because she doesn't know anything about Formula One. She's watching it for the first time. What the fuck are you talking about? Keep that one. Delete all the other ones.

Were you fired on a podcast? Clubs. actually no sorry before we do that before we do that um uh let's wrap out wrap up the um adaptation of the pit wall and the shit wall would you say that this week at head gum was a push push or a box box i give it a box box okay you usually have to give an explanation yeah i mean i feel like there are a lot of people out yeah uh it's kind of just like got a lot of dumb emails stop i hate this so much That one's so bad It sounds like we're listening to Pyle being waterboarded What that episode

Sounded like too by the way The whole thing not even just that moment That's what it felt like What's the dumbest email I got Yeah Or slack or text Billing stuff Got it

I'll give it a push push Or Slack or text. Billing stuff. Got it. I'll give it a push-push. I kind of like it when not everyone is here. So I kind of don't have to be in as many Zoom calls, which is nice. That's nice. I'll give it a push-push. I can't speak for the whole company. I really don't know

really what's happening outside of production all that well. And you never need to. That's the seamless sort of... Well, production never stops. That's the thing that people don't understand about production is it never stops. It keeps going.

There's a holiday this week. Guess what? The episode still goes out. It's New Year's. Guess what? The episode still goes out. It never stops. And this was a push-push this week, guess what? The episode still goes out. It's New Year's, guess what? The episode still goes out. It never stops. And this was a push-push this week.

I'm going to say Box Box. I don't like the episode of the HeadGum Podcast that came out this week. I haven't heard it. And there's just been... I don't know. It's just been an off week, I feel like. Why don't you like it? Who's on it? It was me, I don't know, it's just been an off week, I feel like. Why don't you like it? Who's on it?

It was me, Brad, Amir, Will. No, Will's second time being on. It wasn't bad. There were some laugh out loud moments for sure, but I just didn't like, it just wasn't a great one. Sometimes we have hits, you know. I feel like every month there's one hit, and I feel like that's a good ratio enough. Ideally, there'd be two next year. Maybe next year we'll go for two per month.

Yeah. good ratio enough ideally there'd be two next year maybe next year we'll go for two per month yeah but so you you know what goes into making a good podcast and you choose not to do it no honestly the issue and this is real and maybe this disqualifies me from being a host but i'm like i don't know what goes into a good episode because some i've said this already but i'm like sometimes i really prepare and i'm like this is going to be great and it just isn't and that and then other times i'm like this is gonna be a fucking disaster and it's a hit i'll tell you why when you prepare and you think it's gonna be great and it isn't i'll tell you exactly why it isn't it's because we don't know if you're gonna like pull a knife or a gun on us we started this episode and i was like is he gonna i thought it was gonna be one of the yeah i thought it was gonna be one of the episodes where we had to listen to the entire podcast and comment on it which i don't think i'm gonna ever do that again that makes a bad episode yeah well

here's the thing right that so there's that this show started out with like no listeners just like any show but it was like we had the freedom to fuck up and now i feel like there's this pressure to not fuck up because we're getting we're booking ad packages out the wazoo for stuff like see the thing is a meninist podcast for the road slash ages by the way i get brand vetted requests all the time for things that i'm like why would i say no to that and then i have to start reading these podcast ads for See The Thing Is, where it's like, want to hear a show that doesn't

bash men and only hears from the two genders that exist? I'm just like, what? That's copy you're reading? Yes, basically. I mean, it's not that bad, but that's the essence of it. And I'm like, this should have been vetted anyway

shout out the ad sales team and you know what that might have to push I love Alex but she might have to be she might have to be the Williams of the week anyway actually no I can't say that so here's the end segment of this fucking thing push push box box

we all just did that now it's we damn it no we're not calling no no not people okay um well it can be if you want basically we do two we give out two awards to the to racers to drivers there's hottie of the week and then there's little bitch of the day so let's on the pit wall we do that yeah on the pit wall so now on the shit wall let's do that for the people at the company howdy the week i'm gonna have to give to me because uh i thought this was a fun little crossover episode it was kind of like that's so sweet life of hannah montana vibes i wish i wish awful remember do you remember the last time you uh you asked us all to be on the head gun podcast because

you asked specifically for the pit wall crew and we hadn't recorded an episode of the pit wall yet and we needed to and i my plan was to just do the pit wall during the head gun podcast i remember that it rings a bell for sure yeah and then then you're doing that now today correct i believe that was called worst episode Episode Ever, Volume 4. Hey, here you go, Pyle. I have a five, actually. Pyle, you might be my hottie of the day, actually, because this is the first time you've been on the show in a while

that it hasn't been Worst Episode Ever. Well, you haven't named it yet. No, this is going to be the shit wall. I have named it. Oh, okay, great. Baby steps. Much better. No more. name okay great baby steps much better no

no no hottie of the week I'm giving it to me for coming up with this idea y'all go who are your hotties of the week usually it's because these drivers are like dimes but let's just fucking figure this shit out um my hottie of the week is Usually it's because these drivers are like dimes, but let's just fucking figure this shit out.

My hottie of the week is... Marty. Why? He hasn't been in the office all week. His car is really loud, and he parks it right next to the studio. That's awesome. That's so cool. Wait, why does that make him the hottie?

Because he wasn't here and the car wasn't making all that noise while we were recording podcasts in the podcast recording studio. Definitely. Yeah. My hottie of the week is going to be probably the snacks that we bought for the New York studio this week. What do you got?

We went to Trader Joe's. You said that like he went to Jared. Yeah. Well, What do you got? We went to Trader Joe's. You said that like he went to Jerry's. Yeah, well, what do you have? Like little peanut butter cups? We got the Elote dippers. We've got little peanut butter cups for sure. They're in the fridge. That's where we keep them. Oh, yeah.

We got spiced apple cider. I really like this energy from Casey of him exhaustedly being like, what do you have? It's like kids. I'm curious what they have in a New York office. Cause what we have in the LA office is so bad. It's so bad.

It's salt that you put in your water. Yeah. What? Salt that you put in your water. Yeah. I put some salt in my water yesterday. That was watermelon flavor. I was like, this kind of tastes like watermelon,

but it tastes like I'm drinking a glass full of salt water. Yeah, it's element. I like element. It's an appetite suppressant because we can't afford the snacks. We got chips. We got like pirate's booty. We got lots of like little trail mix packets

this sounds great i wish i had a snack yeah we got this fucking crazy we got these crazy um like peanut butter jelly dippers that will requested from trader joe's what does he do he just moved to new york and he's fucking dominating the place. Well, not, I mean, it was a one item. Yes, really. Really? Yeah. And my kid sat on my lap and watched like the first lap with me, which is always fun because if there's going to be any crashing, it's a good lap. It's a good lap. Good lap.

That was a wholesome moment. You're turning it into something else. I don't know what. I don't like it. It's not sexual or anything. It's just that you sound weird. I hate to hate threatening. No one was saying that. No, but to me it's funny because it's just. My kid sat on my lap and watched like the first lap. How many times did I say lap?

Which is always fun because if there's going to be any crashing, it's a good lap. Six laps. Casey, you want to direct, write and direct an episode. What do you mean by that? I don't really know yet, but I think it'd be fun. We'll talk.

Great. Great. My little bitch of the day is going to be RSS feeds. Why is that? They're just causing me problems. Hell yeah, man. Hell yeah, man. Hell yeah, brother.

We gotta find a better way. Amen, brother. Thanks. Okay. Little bitch of the day. You. Me? What's that? You. You. Why?

For doing this to us i'll take it sure yeah sure you'll take any award anyone's willing to give you exactly right as long as i'm being thought of I'm relevant um mine is gonna be uh I had an answer for this I think it's gonna be oh you know who it is and I hate to do this but it's gonna be Katie

cuz can't wait for those we've been I've been trying to force the issue On a HeadGum Podcast live show No, don't even start Don't even start We have been waiting for you to respond To a Slack

No, you haven't You bumped Katie In a private chat And she just redirected you to the chat That we started with you to approve a bunch of no no i approved it four weeks ago why did you you did not need me to be like these venues are great i said they were great like weeks ago no i i heard a red herring for the fucking reason why nobody's reached out nobody needed to wait for me to say, yeah, these 30 venues are good.

All I've been saying for months is that I want to do a HeadGum Podcast live show. That's bullshit. And also, that's such a casual thing. Ali said on Monday, September 25th, let me know if there are any others you'd like me to add and we can begin reaching out to check avails. I'm like, you don't need me to say,

there's already 40 venues. You don't need me to be like, can you add TBI? Generally, when someone is like, let me know, they do need you to say something. No, no you don't need me to be like can you add TBI when someone is like let me know they do need you to say something so that they can go for it I'm gonna start reaching out and let me know if there are any that you need me to add there's no reason

you need me to sign off on these 30 venues to start reaching out so everyone in that slack that goes not Anya, Anya's been really trying to make it happen Allie Katie and Marika are the little bitches of the day insane

absolutely yeah fuck fuck off I double down on my Jeff being a little bitch of the day I'm actually changing mine RSS feeds are good in comparison to Jeff honestly the out of context head gum podcast changing mind. RSS feeds are good in comparison to Jeff. Honestly,

the out-of-context HeadGum podcast Twitter has been kind of dying out with the death of X, but I feel like that would be a pull quote is RSS feeds are nothing compared to Jeff. Anyway, we do have to get the fuck out of here. Hey, Pyle, or sorry, wait.

Where do we... Where do I find, wait. Where do I find... Where do you find a podcast? Great question, Pyle. Thank you. Spotify, Apple. Apple Podcasts. Not Stitcher anymore. Rate us five stars.

Just before everybody else does their plugs, let's listen very closely to what Marika says right here. Where do I find, like, where do you find a podcast? Spotify, Apple. Apple Podgest. Not Stitcher anymore. Apple Podgest.

Okay. She was saying Apple Podcast and then cut it off and said just. Yeah. I thought that was kind of interesting. You're reaching. You are reaching. Plugs.

At Jeffrey James on Instagram. Riley and I have a Patreon that I haven't plugged in like a year, but it's patreon.com forward slash Riley and Jeff. And I think we're going to start adding a new perk there. So stay tuned. I don't think I've ever seen a podcast host say plugs and immediately plug their own stuff.

Immediately after saying plugs. What the fuck are you talking about? Listen to Pit Wall. Formula One podcast for casual fans. Hosted by Casey and kind of me and Piles there. Now me and Marika have done every episode. Yes.

And these two guys have done a bunch of episodes and Jake has done the least amount of episodes, but he had a kid. Yeah. Follow me at Marika Elon on every possible social media platform, but particularly Letterboxd. Really want to get to 1,000.

I'm like 30 away. Let's go. Tired of begging. It's not that hard to follow someone on Letterboxd. I follow Marika on Letterboxd. Yeah, that's true. What happens when you get to 1,000? What happens when you get to 1,000? What happens when I get to 1,000?

She gets invited to a screening of Killers of the Flower Moon. Wow. Seriously? No. I just want the fame and I want the glory. I want the guts. Who cares?

Follow the Pitwall on Instagram and TikTok at pit wall pod can we do a live streamed watch along of a race I've got all sorts of ideas

cool what do you got I don't need to plug anything I'm good you don't want to plug your address nope his address is I don't need to plug anything I'm good you don't want to plug your address nope sure yep his address is

gumball.fm that's right I thought it was fuck you wonderful and we'll see Did everybody get their plugs in? Casey?

Follow me on Instagram I don't really Post on X anymore Threads ain't it I'll never join Blue Sky I'm on Letterboxd But I haven't been using it all that much recently. I kind of got overwhelmed with...

I was trying to log every single movie I watch, and then I kind of got tired of doing that. I only really log the new movies that I go see in the theater. But I do go see a lot of repertory theaters. There's a lot in LA, and I like to go to those screenings and I, and I don't really log those on Letterboxd, but I think I might start using it to just,

yeah, well, yeah, I think I might just start logging only things I watch. That's what I started, how I started using it. I didn't log things I watched at home, but then during the pandemic I switched and I made using it. I didn't log things I watched at home, but then during the pandemic, I switched.

And I made a rule that I have to review every movie with a star rating for myself. Oh, I hate doing the stars. It's a personal thing. I don't want to give any movie a star rating. Because I will give a movie a star rating, and then I'll look'll like look at that rating years later and go like i don't agree three stars this is a five-star movie what was i thinking

you know and sometimes i change mine it's all subjective yeah yeah i might change my little bit of the day to y'all for dragging this whole plot for too long. That's fine. Because ultimately you're overruled by how many of us chose you. It's you. That was a Hidgum Original.