The Headgum Podcast - 202: Girdle

Episode Date: April 26, 2024

Amir, Allie, Casey, and AJ Jaramaz (@boyhoodperiod) join Geoff to discuss corporate culinary culture and to play a round of the daily chastity game - Girdle!Advertise on The Headgum Podcast via Gumball.fmRate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on Apple PodcastsRate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on SpotifyJoin the Headgum DiscordSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Previously on the HeadGum Podcast, a St. Louis special. It's great. It's really good. Pan-fried or? You're just dropping the ravioli. It's not breaded. You're just dropping it into a fryer. But you could bread it. You could bread it.

But going off of that and the fact that the pasta dough gets bubbly and crunchy. In that case, you could do little gnocchi instead of the original pasta. Or sweet potato gnocchi is just like basically. Yeah, or like a pumpkin gnocchi, almost like a sweet pumpkin pie gnocchi instead of like cheese, it's like slough or marshmallow or something like that. Brown butter sage and sage.

I only wanna do the Nutella linguine with the Ferrero Rocher meatballs. I know I've said that I love Studio G, but I don't quite understand it. This is no knock against Anya. Anya, the one person that helped you right before we started. Why is camera one this camera and camera three is this camera? That doesn't quite fit the layout of the studio. It has nothing to do with Anya. That's a me thing. And I have gripes with your ass.

Okay, clearly. It's for intuitive switching. Right. To make switching, live switching the cameras more intuitive as you're watching. I don't think it is though. That's the gripe is that it isn't intuitive. You're counter intuitive. You're a counter.

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Thanks to BetterHelp, our only advertiser now. Please welcome back to the show, Ali Khan. Let me go to number three, Ali Khan. Amir Blumenfeld. Or as Billy says, Amir. Yeah, he's from Long Island. Suffolk County. So we let it slide. Yeah.

Casey Donahue and at Boyhood Period, AJ Yaramaz. I've never said your last name. Yeah, I felt wrong. What is your last name? Yaramaz. I was kind of close. You said it nervously. I sensed that energy. So I said it right there.

Prudenciation was good, energy way off. Your heart was in there. You don't like the social anxiety. Yeah. Harsh criticism from Casey, from AJ. And I see, there I go. I pressed three because it should be the left of the fucking room. I'm going to come take a look at what's going on over there.

No, it's all fine. It's all working. It doesn't sound fine. It just sounds like it's working. It's working. It's working. It's working. It's working.

It's working. It's working. It's gonna come take a look at what's going on over there No, it's all fine. It's all working. It doesn't sound it just doesn't work intuitively alright, so Right so alright, so whoever's on the left See someone someone someone screwed this up It had to be on you right You screwed this up. See, exactly right. You screwed this up. Wow. It had to be Anya, right? Wow. Someone was in here meddling. I mean, I don't-

It was those darn kids. And that little dog, too. See, there we go. There we go. There we go. There we go. And now we're back on the same page. You guys don't think it was David Cross, do you? There's no way.

I wonder if his senses worked so over time that he started to create tasks, menial or otherwise, that kind of fucked up the G. We've got a shit ton to get to because what do you mean why? Keep going. You think we should have eased into it like episode 201. This is sort of a new start, a fresh beginning, a breath. We'll get to all of that by the way That's my point the listeners deserve better than 101 to 199 200 was a hit 200 was the peak I just think that every episode from here on out should be that peak thus That's impossible.

Yeah, we're already going down because we had 22, 23 people guessing on us. In a way. Now we're down to four. That felt like a series finale. It was more a season finale again. There's been two seasons so far. One to 100.

201. Nope. Nope. So far one to 100 201 no 101 yeah to 200 correct series finale of course Season finale of course this is season fucking three guys. Okay. It has to top the rest and You know Gilmore girls style because I feel like that season well season three kind of was I hated season three why? It got I think season one was the goat yeah season two was AJ's favorite I think if that's if I'm remembering correctly you've never seen the show no I've seen it But in like bits and pieces which season does she go to college that's season four to have okay? I've never seen it. I in like bits and pieces. Which season does she go to college? That's season four to have. Okay.

I've never seen it. I like it when she goes to college. I hate it when she goes to college. No, season three was the worst because that's when she just like decides to be like a spoiled brat and live with her grandparents. I mean, Amir knows exactly what I'm talking about. And I don't like, she would never do that.

She also wouldn't cheat on every boyfriend she's ever had, I feel like. Oh, classic Rory. Just Dean, maybe. She cheated on all our boyfriends on the show? We got stuff to get to. And my point is just that every episode from here on thus has to top 200, I think.

Great, so you must have something great planned. It's gonna be insane. It's gonna be awesome. I just fear that now your guys' expectations are rising, much like Heat. And I just fear that now your guys's expectations are rising much like heat and I just think that the listeners deserve a really solid chunk of a hundred hours of oral Let's get this shit out of the way hope Wendy what episode number do you guys think bomb of the Week is gonna finally fucking wrap up?

When is Barbara gonna get her broccoli together? Two, two, two. That's good. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Allie Bond of the Week. Um, I'm gonna go with Stanley Tucci. Because? Because I think he would do a really good job.

That's fair. A lot of people's explanation is just like, "'Cause I think it'd be good." And there's nothing you can argue against that, Amir. Come on. Army hammer. Let's fucking, why? Blonde of the week.

So many blondes. I said blonde of the week So many blondes I said blonde the week I said Anna de Armas when the fucking Marilyn Monroe Biopic came out that's blonde of the week not army hammer not fucking Chad Michael Murray Not Chas Dean not Chas Dean Holly weird barber the Not Chaz Dean. Holly Weird Barber. Who's Chaz Dean? The quasi-famous barber. He's like the stylist to the stars slash Amir.

Have you ever seen Chaz Dean billboards around town? No. You live by all of them, I feel like. You've never seen it. You get your haircut by Chaz. He did your color. Yeah, I've seen Chaz. I haven't seen the billboards. It almost feels like a prank. You guys all decided there's someone named Chaz Dean before this this is not a prank

The man from the billboard the man of the hour the man of the ad do you know Angeline? Yeah, I've seen her car in a parking lot one same but yeah sort of he's sort of the on Janu Angeline Okay in terms of strands and Jadine yeah Chaz or other he also opened a Hair salon on the strand in Manhattan Beach. Well, I don't care Casey who's your bond of the week? Um, let's go with Al Gore Go with Al Gore. Does he what, deserves another job? I haven't seen him in a while.

I think it'd be fun. In a minute, I haven't seen Al Gore to huff you up. And you think his kind of perfect return is to be 007 for like 10 to 15 years? It'd be unexpected, it'd be interesting. I would be in the theater watching. What do you think that would sound like? The name is Bond.

Nice. Al Bond. No, Al, your name is James, just so... Shit, sorry. This is, yeah. I'm not an actor. Can we have the bad guy kind of shoot his buddy on a hunting trip? That kind of might help.

What? Is that a Dick Cheney reference? Yeah, that's a... Is that a who reference? That was a Cheney reference, but the years were very off. So... AJ, who do you got in terms of your James of the 00? Um, I think JoJo Siwa.

Oh, my God. Because... By the way, Dream Podcast guest... on this show... Pretty good impression. That one, yeah, that Podcast guest on this show. That was for Ali and AJ, the people who are tapped in. I got it. I also got it. You didn't smile about it.

I nodded. All right. Now we're peeking, by the way, before we were having issues with levels. Now I feel like everybody's kind of getting angry. Because I said, AJ, is that how loud you're going to talk? I haven't yelled. You said... AJ is so calm. He's your kryptonite.

He's my foil. He's not getting rattled at all. So why JoJo? I just, I keep seeing her in like very short bursts and she's really growing on me and I think she has charm. I think she has talent. I saw a video where she carried a grown man on like a reality show.

Tom Sandoval on Special Forces. Yes. The world's toughest test. She did really good. You don't know Chaz Dean? How do I know anything that you don't? My Bond of the Week is Tom Kenny. Oh the voice of SpongeBob.

Yeah, so it's time for a Sponge Bond. Sponge Bond agent, SpongeBob agent, MI6-00. You know, his wife had to put out a statement after the Ariana Grande, Ethan Slater, news broke saying, I know everyone's saying Ariana Grande's dating SpongeBob, it's not Tom Kenny. That's the kind of's dating Spongebob. It's not Tom Kenny That's the kind of partnership that everybody wants in life as someone who would have their back in a moment of darkness such as that Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're spamming the wrong guy

What are your thoughts on what's his name Ethan Slater Slater? Do you love him? Do you not? I didn't I don't really know. I hope she's happy. And do you think she... I thought she got a divorce again. Yeah, she did. And now this is her post divorce relationship. Yeah. She's kind of doing like a de-contrast. I think she always picks people that the public views is kind of a question mark. Yeah. But, you know, the heart wants what it wants.

Yeah. And I feel like, Casey, that you can speak to that because I feel like the last time I asked you about dating in LA you were saying that your heart wanted what it already had before, lost since and won't have again. I said this? Something like that. It was something, it was either that

or that you just weren't going on any dates soon. Oh yeah, I think, yeah, that sounds more accurate. Definitely the second one. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like, I don't know if I pissed you off earlier with the text I sent you yeah All I was saying was I mean I you want to read it? Sure, I just feel like a lot of what whether the show goes well or not as people's punctuality people's attitude that they show Up with so go ahead. Hey, tell me why Jake and Billy Brick have both come to me

with help to buy their significant others a vintage Cartier watch and radio silence from your ass. Do you want Avital dead? It's not like you don't have the cash, LOL. So... So... So... So...

So... I just feel like that was a little private. Yeah, but you wanted me to read it. Earlier today you said, if you're on time, you're late. So, maybe you just don't get to the record at 3.30. Maybe you get here at 3.10. Maybe we're all asses in seats, grins adorning, and us ready to get into some joy, jarred or otherwise. Yeah, well, I did have to do a little studio maneuvering

with the Playground ones because, you know, we were in the other studio but we had four guests. Well, it's impossible to get... Exactly prepared. No, I was. I was all set up. I'm all set up. And Elvis, nothing. I was going to say, I'm all set up. I'm all set up. And Elvis, nothing. I was gonna say, I'm all set up. I'm so lost without you.

And that is right. And I love that song. Do you know that song? It's I'm So Lost Without You by Lawrence, Lawrence Grey. Lawrence Grey? I thought it was Florence and the Grey. AJ, you're a musician. Plug your shit. Plug your shit and get out plugs

just for AJ thanks so much for coming what music is always so AJ boy head wherever you listen. So soft. It could be Tidal. Tidal, Spotify, ITV. CDs. CDs. You like when I text you or? Yeah, sort of let's move on from that. Okay, I was kind of baiting you into something that might come up later. All right, Wax, let's talk about it. The 200th episode was a hit.

We might spend the next eight weeks just breaking it down with everybody. And you think that's a good way to start season three? Is to spend eight weeks breaking down the finale of season two? I'm just trying to... Because now we're all smiling because we enjoyed the episode that we did for the 200th. And so this is... Amir said that it was my job as host to what? Get the energy up? Yeah. This is my way of doing that. It was a hit. People smiled then and will now.

What were your guys' experiences on the 200th episode? I asked people on what would be last week's episode. Oh, so this is 202. This is 202. Okay. Yeah. And so I just wanted to get your guys' like, what was your favorite part? Let's start with AJ. I Like that Joel and Johnny were sharing a set of headphones and kind of sitting on top of each other and I like Johnny's TSA bit that you wrote that those are just your friends. Yeah. Yeah Well, yeah, I also like that the Johnny and Joel were sharing headphones

That was pretty good I also liked that Johnny and Joel were sharing headphones. That was pretty good. Me too. It was, my personal experience was strange, because I was sharing a mic with Jeff, which essentially meant I was not talking about my podcast. Yeah, that was actually my one note for the whole show, is that I wish you had had your own mic. You had a front row seat to the action.

Yeah, I felt like I was watching, you know that one, I think you had had your own mic. You had a front row seat to the action. Yeah, I felt like I was watching, you know that one, I think you should leave sketch when he's like playing the machine and he's like- Throwing plates over the back. Yeah, throwing plates. That's what it kind of felt like for me. You're sort of too close to the mic. Yeah, I felt like I needed safety goggles.

In a way, shards of joy, flying hither than thither, it was not a safe environment for you in the booth. No, not at all. Amir? The Rice song was a hit, man. I don't know what you want me to say. R-I-C-E-Burn to go.

What was your favorite thing you said? I don't know. Jeez, yeah, I don't really remember. I was trying to give you a compliment. Appreciate that. Ali? I got a second Amir. Like the segment was so good. You know since then I've checked out that song that you based it on. Hot to go. Well first of all, Chaperone had a huge weekend that weekend kind of unrelated to you. Kind of aiding and abetting

my shit. Her like Coachella performance blew her up in a way that was finally getting on my radar. I'm like, wait, that's also the lady from Jeff's song. Oh my God, that means she hit the mainstream. That's correct. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly right. Amir knows.

Amir's the straightest guy I know. Yeah. I didn't know her until this weekend and now she's everywhere on my Twitter timeline. And then now that I've heard the Rice song first, I of prefer that version to that to the the OG and I appreciate that That's what I wanted to get to grapes anybody have any or can we move on? Great. I did my gripe or did you say grapes? grapes anybody have I'm sure I got these too. Nope.

AJ! Blake Griffin is retiring. He is. Yeah. Well, I wonder if we get a Blake pod. He's very funny and that would be fun to have. I interviewed for his production company once when I was like 23. Well, thank God you ended up here because that doesn't exist anymore, I'm pretty sure.

And if it does, they're making like sports documentaries So anyway, I'm here. Is that how you are on content calls when you're like people are pitching kind of I mean You're so boring that I can't really find my way It's just I feel like if you're not meeting them with a smile and at least the hope that you might take the show on I feel people aren't even gonna be comfortable enough to give it. They're all in the pitch Well, I'm not I'm actually not in every pitch Alley and Katie are and then I'm in some of them with Jake. Right. Do you want to plug the thing you're drinking? Oh yeah I tried this new Ollipop flavor. I'm new to soda and Ollipop I guess is

my favorite brand now but it's called Dr. Goodwin. Yeah. So it's not really a flavor. Like the other ones are like, vanilla, and then this one's just a guy's name. Does it taste like Dr. Pepper? So that's the thing. Because I'm so new to soda, I've never had a Dr. Pepper. I didn't have soda growing up, and I just recently started drinking Diet Coke. Occasionally. So this kind of tastes like cherry cola, I guess? Like cherry coke?

That's roughly how I would describe Dr. Pepper. It's got a cherry coke flavor profile. Yeah, it's like a dark... It's sort of like the color of these bottle caps, is how I would describe the flavor. But I like it a lot. Was anyone else surprised that the CHIPS Act is like a legislation... Whatever, it's a piece of legislation that's an infrastructure bill, basically.

I thought it was like the entire government taking on Frito-Lay. Taking them on in what sense? Busting the monopoly. On chips? It has to get edited out. It was like a weird monologue joke I wrote, and it was the only one I did.

You wrote that? That wasn't a joke. You just said, does anyone think that it should be about something else? I said, was anyone else surprised that the CHIPS Act turned out to be an infrastructure bill, and not what I thought it was, which was legislative action against Frito-Lay?

Got it. And what was your ideal response from us to that? Standing out probably. The worst laughter and then we cut to break, but instead we had to cut the break like 90 seconds into the shit. Did your Sidney Sweeney commercial start airing? Yes.

Have you gotten residual checks for it? I got paid residuals happen in 13 week installments with commercials. Or have you never booked a national ad? Ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. I saw that camera. installments with commercials. Or have you never booked a national ad? I saw that camera. I can't remember what that was. Oh wait, I missed that sound effect. That was easy.

Um. Wait, they've started airing on TV? Have you seen them on TV? I don't watch live TV, so I actually don't know if they're airing on TV. I know that they've been on TikTok, and I know that they've been on Instagram reels. For real. But yeah, I don't know if they're airing on TV I know that they've been on tik-tok and I know that they've been on Instagram reels for rail but

Yeah, I don't know. I mean we might we might watch the Laker game after this So hopefully it airs during that kind of shit. Yeah, I mean with Sweeney in an ad you think they put it everywhere But it seems like it hasn't launched yet. I want to see like the same four ads on sports over and over It's that Apple iPhone ad where the guys like debating deleting photos and the photos are singing. Don't let me go. Kind of a catchy... Sounds like we're moving on. That monologue joke wasn't just out of nowhere by the way.

That was the worst part about it. The fact that it was premeditated. It was such a saltine. The fact that you actually wrote it beforehand. Yeah, it was sort of bland spam. It was matzah. It was matzah. Happy Passover by the way, but it was matzah.

It had moxie though. No, it was yeastless. It was dough. It was nothing, empty calories. I think that it was yeast starter. It wasn't. It was sour. Empty calories. It was yeast starter. It wasn't. It was sour dough starter.

Corporate snack culture. Let's fucking talk about it. I thought we could explore the correlation of communal snack consumption within the workplace to intra-company bonding. There's an offsite coming up. I wasn't invited but we did a lot of team bonding activities in Arizona I heard that there was some more of that last year and I know that Marty's fucking filling the schedule with

nonsense thinking that trust falls this ropes course that I skipped a lot of the team bonding last year to buy and then ultimately take a nap Yeah, who says no to that I think we should just talk about it for a minute the state of affairs visa vie The sort of cafeteria as it were the kitchen. What is the snack situation? What do we like? What is another one of Anya's? Yeah, this seems like a great topic for Anya Yeah, I'm here about this like passionately. Yeah, but you guys are here. No. She's working is she I thought she was like out of office No, she's at home. I think she was out of office until yesterday. I think now she's back in Interesting this is not interesting. I'm saying you can call her. What do you think talking about the snacks in the office is?

I want to talk about the correlation between how many snacks are consumed in community With how close we all are as a company. I don't think there is any correlation Oh really? Because a think piece written in 2015 in the Harvard Business Review 10 years ago. Kevin Niffin? Disagrees with your ass. And he's a fucking professor. Did he know about COVID or how that would absolutely change workplace culture

altogether? The article states, this is 2015, mind you, that many companies see headgum try to force camaraderie through, you know, again, with like offsite retreats where people are forced to group up and talk about each other's deepest traumas, which is severely misguided, by the way. We didn't do that. I don't think we did that at all. I had to guess. I don't know what you guys did last year, right?

I wasn't there. We didn't do that the year you were there, though. I'm not going to be there this year. I could extrapolate, all right? We had to fucking write down our like, what, one-year plan or whatever. That's pretty traumatic. That was traumatic. Because guess what? I didn't nail any of those goals. Alright, we had to fucking write down our like what one year plan or whatever. That's pretty traumatic What I didn't nail any of those

Clearly Kevin Niffin calls off-site retreats Dilbert ask which he's talking about Dilbert theory. I thought he was talking about Dilbert the cartoon Which is Gilbert theory, I don't fucking care. Kevin's job. Okay. Okay. Okay. Where they fucking entered fire houses. What? What? They explored. What are you saying?

What are you saying? What are you saying? What are you saying? Stop taking us down this path. He followed and surveyed 13 different fire houses in mid-tier cities. Okay. What does that tier cities okay with office culture or snacks that there was a sense of Cooperative action within the firefighting culture Cook meals together, that's true. They love to make chili

Okay They love to make chili. Okay. The study focused on 13 different firehouses, a workplace where cooking and eating together is not required, but is considered a social norm amongst firefighters. And according to Niffen, cooperative behavior- It's worse when the Niffen when yet. You know what I mean? It is worse when Niffen when yet, for sure. Working together.

Like, do we work well together? They self-reported levels twice as high as the average corporate office. Yeah, I would hope so. They're fuckin' firemen. They're fuckin' eating together. It seems like more than that. They're like fighting the odd call in case a fire happened. Yeah, it seems like pretty extreme.

Yeah, they're probably closer than like two guys that work in marketing Yeah, I don't think it could be a fireman working from home I'm not saying we should do a we all do the hybrid model But we are often here and I'm just saying here. I have some ideas. Can I pitch you guys some snacks? We do do a weekly lunch Also, you can tell Anya if you have a snack.. She'll hear this. What? Beer on tap. Beer on tap. Wine in barrels.

Beer on tap and wine in barrels. A full stocked bar with high shelf liquor, bitters, garnishes, plums, syrups and pills. What pills? Fucking, I don't know. Adderall. Ecstasy. Why did you point that out? That was before we started.

I was like, what the fuck? I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. Fucking, I don't know, Adderall, Ecstasy. Why did you point that at Ali? That was before we started recording. Ali's rolling. Maybe we do omakase dining experience Thursdays. We bring in a Nobu Matsuhisa type. That sounds great.

Group together and collectively decide to trust the chef instead of all this mischief that goes on like oh let's build a phone room that's a separating agent I feel like I just have to say I just made a comment about how people used to be prescribed MDMA for couples therapy in like the 50s that's what it was that's what we were talking about before we recorded this room is now a new studio I don't see Alex Berkman hanging out here. I don't see her on the pod. She's out there doing marketing nonsense.

Cohen's not even here. Really? She doesn't work in marketing? Well, marketing the idea of sales, ads and brands. Yeah. I'm just saying, and now we have this phone room that we just built. That's another room for one person to be there at a time. Maybe two.

And I'm like, that's not going to foster a to be there at a time Maybe two and I'm like that's not gonna foster a bond that's gonna foster individualism So why don't we do casual fish Fridays? What's that? That's every Friday? We could both dress in sweat slash our cod with tartar We can both dress in sweats We can both dress in sweats slash our cod. We can dress our cod with tartar and in sweats. I see. Yeah.

Our cod. Do you want to eat fish and listen to fish? Is that what you're saying? Nobody's ever here on a Friday. Let's fucking grill tilapia, catfish, cod, dip it in tartar while we're wearing joggers. How does that not resonate with you guys as something that would make us all feel like we're one? Um... I mean, we do have lunches together.

Case of the Monday meals. Just like Garfield the cat, everyone hates Mondays and loves lasagna. Lasagna zero. Let's all cook and eat lasagna every Monday with side like what are we like? We're like cooking and that's what the firefighters do That's what the firefighters do and their cooperative action is twice as high as your ass We don't have an oven We could do an air fryer or something. It's just like air fried lasagna. I don't have an oven. Really? We could do an air fryer or something.

Air fried lasagna? I don't fucking know. This is a brainstorm. You guys are bringing nothing to the table by the way. I do like eating together. We have Thursday lunches. Group lunches. We keep trying to tell you this. Fine. Okay, last pitch. Everyone bonds when they have a collective secret to keep.

Let's distill gin in the conference room and racketeer. We gotta figure this shit out. Because it's 2 o' 2. It's already not bringing it to the table for the listeners. You did plan a lot of this. I see you reading stuff. Yeah, you're reading a lot.

I don't know if that's good The loudest Welcome to girdle you don't need a word. Welcome to Gertl. You can hear it from across the room. You guys have played Wordle? Yeah. That's a daily word game? Yep. Yep.

This is a daily chastity game. And what does that mean? We'll get there. Sounds like we're already here. Let's just let it marinate a little bit. AJ, thoughts? So far so good. The logo is good.

Yeah. I'm wondering what your definition of a Gertl is. I'm wondering what your definition of a Gertl is. I'm wondering what your definition of a Gertl is. I'm wondering what your definition of a Gertl is. I'm wondering what your definition of a Gertl is. I'm wondering what your definition of a Gertl is. I'm wondering what your definition of a Gertl is. I'm wondering what your definition of a Gertl is. I'm wondering what your definition of a Gertl is. I'm thoughts? So far so good. The logo is good. Yeah.

I'm wondering what your definition of a girdle is. Well, so girdle is like a different word. Totally different. Wordle. Yeah. Girdle. Girdle. Girdle.

Sure. Turtle. Now I understand. Turtle. So it's about girding your loins, your fantasies, reigning them in. Oh, so this doesn't have anything to do with girdles. This has to do with more girding. Girding, in a way. Yeah.

It's about staying chased. It's about having fun on a daily basis. Okay. All right, here we go. You guys want to play? Yeah. You can guess either all is one or you can designate someone to play. Why did you, we have like a monitor here. Cause this way.

To make it easier for like people sitting on the couches to like, do this sort of thing. I'd rather be. You said we all have to turn around and look directly. Crane on a dance. I want it to be easy on me in the edit. Let's just get it all done in one take.

All right, let's get it over with. These are chastity related words? Is that the... That's sort of the name of the GERD. What's a chastity related word? So if you're going to designate someone, maybe don't make it a mirror. Alright, I got a word. Do you guys all want to do it at once? You want to just go for a straight word?

I have a word. Isn't that what we're doing here? Yeah, it's WERDL. Well, GERDL, but still. Yeah, start us off. just go for a straight word. I have a word, isn't that what we're doing here? Yeah, it's wordle, well girdle, but still. Yeah, start us off. Okay, penis. That's good. Okay, kind of crass, but let's see if it works. Wow.

Really close. Not bad, not bad at all. So the word contains N-I-N-S, and S is gonna be on that last tile. Keep in mind this is gird girdle loins. Wow Yeah, it's kind of a good guess but What are we supposed to do? It's only been 35 minutes, that was it. That was it.

One round? It's a daily Chastity game. There's one a day. You're still girding your loins as you were explaining it. I didn't really mean to... Yeah. You gave it away. Let's do connections, but with girdle.

Let's do missed connections for which snack should be in the cafeteria. We're going back to the food. Cafeteria. Um, 202. Let's just fucking wax. What was 201? 201 was a hit. Who was on it? It was Will Conover, it was Marika Brownlee, and Ferris Manchi. Interesting. It's always weird when we're not there. Yeah well, well I feel like every episode

either has you or Marika mmm interesting yeah okay I mean how do you guys feel about the concept of girding do you guys gird secrets loins do you not say to people in your life how you really feel about them because you want to play hard to get girding is just being secretive I think it's like keeping things tucked. Oh I see. I think people definitely keep their gird up. Yep. That's really good.

AJ? I try to gird not often. I try to not gird. You actively try not to gird? Yeah I try to be open, honest, communicative, honest. Yeah, I try to be open Honest communicative honest. Yeah What tinder linger linger? Yeah, aj has a great cover of linger by the cranberries on spotify now Anti-girding. I do like your cranberries and I do like linger How do you feel about girding though?

uh I still don't fully understand what you mean. It's all about chastity. It really is all about chastity. Casey, what about you? You ever kind of donned a belt? Not a chastity belt. No, like a corset of some kind or like a cummerbund. Yeah, I wore a cummerbund to a prom.

Funeral. Oh. No, not to a funeral. Yeah, that'd be probably too formal. It's kind of like making the day about you. Yeah. AJ, do you want to tell us about the dream you had last night? I had a nightmare last night that Jeffrey died. And then I was mourning him for like four hours in my dream.

But the way that he died, I think is influenced by, I've been watching been watching the boys the show the boys and we're talking about going to a Dodger game so I got baseball in the mind that was today we talked about going to a Dodger game today I've been talking to other friends about also going to a Dodger game previously so it's been on the brain Jeffrey was playing baseball in the dream and he did such a bad job swinging the bat that he died but it was like dream logic and so it was very sad and he did such a bad job swinging the bat that he died. But it was like dream logic and so it was very sad. I don't think that's dream logic. I feel like that's prescient. Like, you can see...

The future? Yeah, like it's more of a... Raven. Yeah, more of a Ravens type situation. Because I can see this happening. I feel like if it happens though, it'd have to be somebody pitching kind of fast, which means that I would be in what what like a celebrity all-star game

Thank you Was it just like he spun around fast and I think yeah you had a lot of energy So did it hit me in like I can't remember I was too focused on morning You're swinging a bat all the way around way around hitting the back of your head. Yeah, that's kind of what I was picturing. Because I feel like you can only hit your head so many times. I hit four times really hard this winter. Yeah. Yeah, it's hard, you know? That's why I say things like girdle, you know?

Yeah. That's why? I don't know. I feel like I had like preemptive early onset brain damage. Before the concussion. Before the hits. Yeah. And then... The hits just kept on coming. And that's kind of like 201 to 299. early onset brain damage. Before the concussion. Before the hits. The hits just kept on coming.

And that's kinda like 201 to 299. Is your concussion era? No, it's keeping the hits coming and coming. When was your last hit to the head? February 8th, so I have until August 8th before the specialist says that it's a problem. Everything is five times more exhausting than before.

Five times? Three. Probably three. I said three, she said five. Long COVID, but for a concussion. Yeah, in a way. It's sort of an extension of terror, of anguish, of isolation, while being in a room full of friends. I think you might be girded.

In terms of... YARVN or... YARVN would be a good daily word game. What would that be? Every day the word is YARVN. Yeah. Is that a reference to a video we made? What's YARVN?

Yeah, what's YARVN? I don't remember what video it was, but it was like, and in terms of Yarvin, how then? Is it the cryptocurrency one? I think it was, yeah. I think it ultimately was. Solid up. Yeah. Plug.

Wow. Really? Nice and tight, 40 minute episode. I feel like we earned it after the hour 16 that was the 20th episode. You really wanted this girdle game to go? I'm sorry. Not that much longer. Maybe five more minutes. Maybe we would have talked about Chastity.

There's no way we would. What's up with dating in LA then? No man. I don't think so at all. It's hard when it goes, because I never know how long this shit's going to be. Like I have time stamps for this. Intro slash wax wax 0 to 15 Corporate snack culture 20 to 30 that was a big problem for girdle was supposed to be from minute 30 to 40

We started at 32. Okay, so roughly close, but we ended fast. Well, we ended it like five minutes ago So girdle ended up being like two and a half minutes I'm just saying there's no way I could have known that AJ would have said loins Yeah, but even if he didn't we would have probably got the loins pretty fast Well, yeah, cuz you only get like six guess. Yeah, how long could that take? We got three letters in the first guess. It's well, I couldn't have predicted that either You guys are just too good at girdle. I guess by the way It's like sometimes these things take way too long during the post nuptial episode

We did the rubric thing everybody was like all right keep it fucking going and I was like this is like it's good stuff but it's going on for like 20 fucking minutes I never know how long something's gonna take and that can't be on me that has to be on you I think that is on you I think that is on are you AJ are you staying with Jeff this weekend yeah so you saw his new place yeah how is that beautiful yeah you like the new place yeah is there room for you or you sort of couch crashing? There's an attic. An attic?

Absolutely. Even better. You're going to get another concussion. Yeah. Because of... The attic. The attic. Is it tall enough?

Probably. Probably. It's hard. It's been a whole journey this year. Oh, Jeff hit his head. If we're not making merch that's 50% of the profits going to me Bumper stickers that say my other car is Jeff hitting his head Let's quit it with the concussion talk

Okay, so you want to monetize your injury otherwise? Yeah, not even talk about it, but honestly for people to want to buy the merch you might need to keep talking about it Right right right right yeah, yeah yeah Casey are you a Mets fan or just the hat yeah I like the Mets Mets are my dad's team that's what I was gonna say yeah cuz your dad was a New Yorker who moved to Florida yeah that's right yeah older dad or older dad than me yeah he's actually 28 and you just you want to go ahead and say what he did When he was younger what he used to know like when he was like younger in like high school No, just like what he did the thing you always want to fucking shoehorn him. I don't your shoe warning this

I know but it's like I can feel it the energy shifts as soon as you mention your dad My dad was a race car driver My dad was a race car driver in high school. And now I host a race car podcast. And then it's kind of interesting that racing, in racing there's laps. In fatherhood, there's also Papa's lap. No place like home, they used to say. Did you ever sit on a lap that he raced? Like in the car with him?

Did you ever sit on your dad's like 50th lap? Like... Did your dad... Like he drove a lap... Did you find comfort by laying your head down on the 39th round? That my father took around the track. Yeah. There's no place like home. There's no dad like racers. Plugs.

No, my dad did it before I was born. There's no dad like racers. Plugs. No, my dad did it before I was born. Listen to the pit wall. It's a race car podcast here on Headcom. Here we go again. You did say plugs. That it? You're on that show sometimes. Today?

Not, well, we recorded one today with you, yes. Is that all you wanna plug? Taco Bell Film Festival, it will have happened last Saturday. If you went to the Taco Bell Film Festival, I made a movie for it. Oh. AJ? I feel like you've plugged me twice already on this episode.

Go ahead. You can follow my roommate, Johnny Villa, on Instagram, at Johnny V. V-I my roommate Johnny Villa on Instagram at Johnny B. Ladies. He's humble too. What? Yeah, because he should use the time to plug Boyhood Period on Spotify Apple music. What was the title? Title?

Yeah. Truth Social Audio Streaming. Yeah. Do you have any other covers? I have a cover of I Love You Always Forever. Like that one too. It's a good one. You're discovering a lot of hip new music Amir. How does it feel? No, I know that song.

It's like from the nineties. No, I mean his cover of it. Yeah. I'm excited to hear the covers. It seems like most of your covers are from songs that were around in like 1997. Big year for me. Really? Formative?

Sorry. I think you felt sort of a seismic shift, would you say? Because that was the year I was born. Ali? Will you plug my W4? We're plugging? Yeah, what do you have going on? What do you want to point people to? You can follow me on letterboxd at Ali Khan or on Instagram at Ali Khan or? I guess that's it. I

Decided I'm stopping plugging my Venmo, but if you find it because you got tax purposes. Yeah. Yeah at Jeffrey James on Instagram at patreon.com or sorry patreon.com forward slash Riley and Jeff and What is it? WWW best Los Angeles luxury mattress sales stores near me calm if you need a helix mattress for a good price worst URL of all time Hey there, podcast listener. Good news, we're doing another HeadGum Happy Hour in New York City. Whoa, that's amazing news. Amir, why don't you tell the folks when and where it is?

Okay, fine, it's Tuesday, May 7th at 7.30 p.m. at the Bell House. Okay, and why don't you tell everybody who the fucking hosts are? Yeah, that would be us. It would be, we're hosting it, it's Jake and Amir. Okay, and how about this, you little piece of shit? Why don't you tell everybody who is gonna be performing?

Who is this show featuring? All right, I don't appreciate being called that, but it is featuring Charlie Bardet, Natalie Rodder, Lateman of Exploration. Why don't you tell them, excuse me, why don't you tell them who else it's featuring? Yeah, go ahead. Nellie Tamarez and Elise Morales of the Go Touch Grass podcast and some surprise guests as well. More, yes. And Mir, why don't you go ahead and close this out now? You say something like, thanks for listening. We'll see you at the show or something like that. Why don't you go ahead and do that? I will.

It's a, so go buy a ticket at headgum.com slash live and we'll see you there. All right, bye.