The Headgum Podcast - 259: Marika Lobotomy Reveal

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

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This is a head gum original. Previously on the Head Gum Podcast. I just played pickleball for the first time last weekend. How'd that go for you? It was fast. Okay. We won best three out of five. Who's who?

So I played doubles. Did you play with two other people who also didn't play before correct nobody had played before So you went from zero to your oh of the games you don't even know that you played correctly What's that do you have any way of knowing that you played correctly? We have zero way of knowing all I know is that you can only win you can only win points when it's your serve What I don't understand is the three three one three three two What I don't understand is the 331332 He's devastatingly pissed at me you guys aren't in the room you can't feel the anger What's that? What's that?

What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that?

What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? What's that? Oh. It's like cathartic for me to do this show. I mean, just with how painful and boring my life in between the episode records is, to me, once I get here, it's like, oh, you know what I mean? It's like, oh, thank God. Finally, I can breathe some life into my fucking gullet.

Why is your life boring? What's that? Does that include being in a feature film? I mean, that was pulling teeth to everyone involved. Casey, I feel like most of all, was really angry on set. Casey was really angry on set. I want the listener to know everything Jeff is going to say about the movie, believe the opposite.

Well, there is a lot of material on the movie because you've been gone for a bit. You did say to me on set that you hadn't been, you hadn't even been at Head Gum for like three weeks. Yeah. So this is gonna be kind of your rude awakening, kind of your rude welcoming back party. In fact, the title of the episode might be Casey's welcome back party.

So please welcome back Casey Donahue. What's that? Wow, thanks. Thank you, everybody. I've been gone for a while, right? What? Yeah, but that was because of the fucking, what was it? The stent. We're gonna get to that too.

You guys are already predicting this shit. Who needs AI predictive text? Maybe it should be called, welcome Marika's stent episode. Maybe. We'll workshop it. The episode is called Casey's Welcome Back Party. Marika's Welcome Stent Party? Stent? It was a lobotomy.

She wishes. You know what? That's the episode title. Marika's lobotomy reveal. Yeah, throw up the x-rays and just a big X for what we took off. Marika, do I have your permission to throw up these x-rays? Yeah, the ones I sent you are fine. There's no, there's no additional... That implies the existence of some x-rays that aren't fine. Yeah.

Well, just like the re... LAUGHS Locked and loaded. What I don't love is that this is the second X-ray screening on this episode, on this show. The first one was my MRI two years ago. It's so funny that it's all kind of head and brain related. No correlation, I'm sure.

Yeah. None whatsoever. And then, Marika, can you go ahead and explain what the fuck this is? Just for the audio listeners as well? This is my noggin. This is like the back. By the way, they might not even know what we're talking about. Marika just had a surgery about two weeks ago. So let's hear about it. Yeah, yeah.

Well, as you very well know, and maybe I brought it up, I have had, I've just heard my pulse in my ear for the past three years. Pulsatile tinnitus, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I was really, you know, when you look up pulsatile tinnitus, it's like, oh, you probably have an aneurysm and you're gonna die. So I was just kind of ignoring that for a while and then eventually went back to the doctor. Uh-oh, ladies, she's avoidant.

Ha-ha. She's the cool one. Ha-ha. I thought you were gonna do a joke about how she put it kind of in the back of her mind. Because that's where the stent is. Grace, can you just sort of take Anya's shit, run it through an AI generator so I set it and put it kind of in the back of her mind. Cause that's where the stent is. Grace, can you just sort of take Anya's shit, run it through an AI generator. So I set it and put it at my lips.

And anyway, so what we found out was that my vein in my head was severely narrowed. The vein, the main vein that takes blood from my brain to the rest of my body, sort of like empties out my brain. Narrows can be the pressure in her main vein. It's thin in her brain. So in this photo, what you see here is that they had to insert a balloon in my vein. So that's that big gray area the size of a finger, I guess. This is one of those rare instances where, sorry Anya, I wasn't, I was trying to speak on my own show.

And that's no problem. This is one of those rare instances where the gray area actually is crystal clear and there's no room for interpretation because yes, it's a gray area, but we know exactly what's happening there. There's a fucking condom inside. It does look like a balloon animal that hasn't been blown up yet. But didn't they tell you, like, it's supposed to be the size of this and it was actually the size of this?

I thought that was funny. No, that was my meeting with my urologist. Got me! They did. They were like... Normally, this vein is like the size of a finger. Yours, you know, if we go in and measure the pressure and it hurts, or you like feel some pressure behind your ear, that means it's smaller than a hair. Ultimately it was.

Spoiler alert. It was. Smaller than a hair. Yeah. It's so crazy. So funny. Spoiler alert. It was. Smaller than a hair. Yeah. It's so crazy. And apparently it got worse in the like three weeks that I had since I had had that measured. What could be smaller?

Like it's becoming, it's like cellular. Yeah. So they had to go and they had to blow it up with the balloon. Then they had to put in the stent, which is, you can't really see it here, but it's like this mesh sort of net looking thing. Some of the worst words possible, are you? So now I just have like mesh tube. Unless you're like a fisherman.

Some awesome words. In my vein. A big Boston. And yeah, so that's what that is. So are you? Yeah. Are you okay? Are you? Well, we this it's only funny because we know that Marika is not only okay, but your pulsatile tinnitus has gone away. But Casey hasn't been here. So he's checking in. You don't hear me laughing. I'm worried about my friend Marika.

Casey's on the edge of his seat because he doesn't know. I'm worried about my friend Marika. We know that she's fine because we asked her weeks ago. So you're actually an asshole. I was directing a movie! Yeah, Casey just got a text from me randomly out of nowhere that was like, I lived, bitch. And everyone else kind of knew what was going on,

because he was like, you were going to die. Yeah, I'm fine. It was short. The tinnitus instantly gone. Incredible. That's crazy. Yeah. Jeffrey James wishes.

Yeah. Hey, how do I get one of those condoms? And I mean, it's only like, yeah, I wish that there was a way to have that instant relief for like the normal kind of tinnitus, but because it was my, I was hearing turbulent blood flow behind my ear. We were able to nip that in the bud really fast. And now hopefully the pressure in my head won't cause me to lose eyesight and all that kind of stuff. So that's good too.

You do seem more jovial. I don't think it's any particular reason. Like I don't think it's because of that. Because you live. You almost died. I've actually been worse in that regard. Anywho, guys, let's take it all into off that happy jolly note. Bond of the Week.

My Bond of the Week is Gavin New Bond. Because he actually oddiesled for it recently and people didn't even notice. Here's his tape. Let's roll it. He did not rule out literally arresting you, Norm Mayor Bass, if you interfere in his work. He said tough guy, why doesn't he do that? He knows where to find me. But you know what? Let your hands off four year old girls that are trying to get educated. Let your hands off these poor people

that are just trying to live their lives, man. Trying to live their lives, paying their taxes. Been here 10 years. The fear, the horror, the hell is this guy? See, what we would do if you were like in a Zoom audition, they would be like, oh, okay, okay, Gavin, let's do it again. You're stumbling a lot.

What do you think the F word was he was gonna say? I mean, none of us can say it. But it's the same word he used on Andrew Tate's podcast. He wasn't on. No, he was on another one of the other alt-right guys. Yeah, that's the thing with Gavin Newsom. He will say the thing you want him to say, but then he'll also send police to clear homeless encampments. Kind of like the next day.

So sort of another clear that we're not like endorsing like you know, I'm not endorsing him even as governor forget president I'm endorsing him as bond. Let's give him something else to do clearly what he wants Getting me with that shit and he does it pretty well it worked. I mean he needs some coaching I don't I don't see him as bond. I see him as as as sure I don't see him as Bond. I see him as as as Jack Reacher. Yeah, I think he sees himself more as Jack Reacher, but he seems like the kind of guy who wants to tell Bond that he's out of line. Yeah, but maybe he's like the head of the CIA in the movie. And there's like, you know, bonds in America,

which I don't think has ever happened in the series. Oh, it's going to happen now that it's in the Amazon Prime original. Right. Yeah. Imagine he's going to meet Jack Reacher. Crossover. That would be an awful crossover. Do you guys have bonds of the week? We got to keep it going.

It's already been 12 minutes. We have so much to get to. We really do. Oh, my bond of the week. This is crazy. hear me out. But I'm going to say me. Because I was pitched this on my Instagram. Sorry. Oh, I was just. He just wanted a bond.

No, who pitched you being Bond? I just because I posted a photo of me at the Tony Awards. I was wearing a little suit and someone said, Marika, Marika Bond-ly. You just belittled yourself. I was wearing a little suit. No it is. I was a small, small man.

So because, sorry, just... And I'm not... I don't want this to come across anyway, but I am just trying to get the facts straight. So because you were a seat filler at the Tony's... Yes. You want to be 007. Yeah. Okay.

I handled myself very well when I was there, surrounded by celebrities. Yeah, huge turnaround from being overnighted in the hospital two weeks ago. Now you're suddenly on the fucking Tonys. I didn't think you were a seat filler, by the way. I thought it was like some kind of like... I won. Yeah, like if you spend like a certain number of hours

at like Mount Sinai, you can't like sort of a lotter. I thought you meant at the theater. Like if you spent a certain amount of time rushing for your seats, they're just like, why don't you just... They should do that. They don't know about Jeff and Casey are giving us looks like they don't know. I know a little bit. I know.

Marika does rush a little bit differently. She just waits for the door, the cast door to open, and she's like, makes a beeline. Which is a very bond thing to do. Yeah, there you go. So you're right. What celebrities did you sit next to or near? I sat. So I got lucky and I was sat

ultimately away from the celebrities, but in a seat that no one ever came for. So I just kind of had a seat for the first half. And then afterwards, I was like, I'll play the game. I'll see what I can accomplish here. And then I really see if I can get on the broadcast so I went to

the front. First time sat in me a ferro seat. Actually I probably shouldn't talk about this knowing what happened to my friend recently but I Wait. I have a question about this process. So you were sitting in a seat and then and then it's not like someone tells you you got to move.

It's up to you to just look for empty seats and fill them. No, no, I got lucky because I was told to sit in a seat that no one was coming for. But it was pretty far back in the orchestra. So I was like, let me see if I can go closer. Let me go freelance and I'm just going to wander around. No, but they have they had captain so I could go to the wings. But that's just already drinks. I could have sat there the entire time and chilled.

But I went to the wings, I got in the little line, they sent me forth, they called up for me, I got to the front of the line, they put me in Mia Farah's seat, Mia Farah was standing three feet away, turned around, was like, hello, that's my seat. So I had to get up. Yeah. Went back, went to the back of the line.

Did it. Sorry. Don't blast through that. Tell them what you said to Mia. Basically, she was like, I don't you think it's time to forgive Woody? And that's when you had to go up the seat. She said that to me. No, you said that to her. Mia was like, he's not that bad of a guy. And the highlight of my interactions, which were very few and far between, was that I

was walking towards the front of the theater, Oprah got out of her seat, she had to go present an award. She graciously was like, all of these people can go before I had that way. So it was just a line of people being like, thank you. Thank you to Oprah. And then I say, thank you to Oprah. Did you look under your seat? Uh, no, but she did later on and she did have gifts. Of course.

Yeah. Uh, I have to ask, can we get a temp check on that seat? On Oprah's seat? Was it like grossly warm? I I didn't sit down in it, but the girl behind me did. And she seemed to be loving it. She was next to Gail. Gail got up for a second.

She grabbed she touched that girl's knee and was like, sort of like, I'll be back situation. Like they instantly bonded. Astronaut Gale? Yeah, it could have been me. I was so close. To getting touched by Gale King. Yeah.

It's so funny that the story you have is that I could have been. I was sitting behind Nicole Scher I was the person that is close to Oprah. And then someone, you know, got pulled me back and was like, time to go. Yeah. How are they communicating this? Like flagging? It was like literally the person who's seat it was had to go up to you and be like, that's my seat. So it was like, who would, how would they direct you to where to sit? They would tell you.

Yeah, it was like this, these like captains that told you, but I'm going to do the job. You need an in-air monitor. I agree. And they should have been paying attention to the fact that like Mia Farrow is right by her seat. She didn't need a seat filler. I don't want to interrupt. I just want to say thank you guys so much for giving, agreeing to give me two and a

half hours of your time today. Because the pace we're going. That's how long it's going to take. We haven't seen each other in weeks. Yeah, let's enjoy this. Any other bombs for the week or can we go to only the second thing on my outline? Go ahead. Anya, Casey, you want to skip?

Pass? That's always an option. I think all of you. I pick Marika. Go ahead. Anya, Casey, you want to skip? Pass? That's always an option. But I think all of you. Pick Marika. I was going to say everyone should just choose themselves to be Bond, but that's very nice of you. I don't want to be Bond.

I don't want to work for any government. Sorry, do you think the British government has been producing? I'm trying to win the Merc with the Mouth. It's Word of the Day. It's Word of the Day. Jeff, do you want to be Deadpool? What's that? Yeah, I kind of the day. It's word of the day. And the word of the day, do you want to be dead? What's that?

Yeah, I've kind of like Deadpool. I'm almost never saying this, but can you turn yourself up? Wow. That doesn't mean the sound effects, Jeff. Just you, because you're getting drowned out. All right, the sound effects are louder. The word of the day is slaxative. This is a constipation medication that gets things moving, but with enough of

a biological heads up that you don't end up soiling your dockers. I kind of spaced out as soon as you started telling us the definition. Okay. Aren't you guys tired of laxative? Okay. Do you guys get it? I feel like you're not reacting with joy because you don't understand. Yeah, I didn't hear the definition, but slaxative.

Yeah, like can't set it. I can explain it. It's a slax-safe lax. So you take it, it's slower to absorb so you don't end up soiling your dickies. One time I was- This is a word that you think people are going to use. It's a word and a pitch for a product as well. One time I was at a dinner with six to seven men and all of them had a story about pooping

their pants at one time in their life. And they didn't believe me that I had never even come close. So I'd like to know kind of what this group, if we could do a quick little... I've never. Never. Um, I did once technically, but it's because I got food poisoning in another country

where their toilets were upright. Versus... Just a urinal? Sitting down. It was like a chardonnall. Uh, I've never seen anything... What of the day? versus just a year and sitting down. It was like a chardonnall. I've never seen anything the day. All right, we do have to move on.

Just want to let's watch this video first and then we'll kind of get a bottle of wine. This is such a violent episode. He was an author and I just published a book and after reading it the girl left a bad review. Instead of just ignoring it, he tracked her down through social media and traveled 500 miles just to find her. She was stacking shelves at a supermarket when he showed up and attacked her. He was arrested and sentenced to over two years in prison over one single book review. He's...

I guess. Aren't we all a little afraid that this is going to be Casey in a few months? Once the movie comes out. Over a letter box review, correct? No, you think the movie's coming out in a few months? Jeff thinks it's just a podcast episode, but like a little bit longer. I thought it was coming out next Friday. It's launching.

No, we're shooting more of the movie tonight. What? Oh yeah, that's true. Oh sorry, you weren't... It's called Pickups, Jeff. I know it's Pickups. I thought that Pickups was last Thursday. No, this is Pickups on Pickups.

Wow. Casey, just take it as a cautionary tale. If you need me to send you the link to this, anytime you start to feel that rage boiling in your gut, don't let it reach your arms as you sort of smash Sherry. Drive 500 miles. Yeah. Yeah.

On top of a little bit of that. Yeah, you're really, you're scrambling like the AI algorithm's brain. They can, they're studying you in a boardroom right now. I'll give you a little bit of a. Yeah, here we go. One craving ice or chalk, a weird but serious red flag for iron deficiency. Marika, what? Oh, yeah. I'd say another stunt.

You need another stunt ASAP. I wouldn't say I crave chalk, but I crave winter green mints. And I think there's a relation there that I can't prove. I really thought Marika was going to crack up and be like, shock. Craving chalk. I eat ice a lot. I say, yes, but you're low on iron to crave. Chalk. No, I know I am.

Honestly, craving chalk isn't a bad episode title. My doctor. I'm going to say that. Get it. What the hell, Any doctor? I'm not gonna say that. Get in on the show. Yeah, what the hell Anya? I'm not a Jeff. I'm not gonna shout out my Dr. Arthur Benjamin. Benjamin I was gonna say. Shout out Arthur Benjamin by the way.

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And we're back. You know, it's kind of funny to me to even have a break because we never get any ads. And when we do, it's for drugs. So anyway, we've never been more back guys. I want to write a classic novel, obviously, but I also sometimes you need the funds, you know, you make one for them, you make one for you.

Casey knows what I'm talking about. He just got the one for them out of the way. Now I can get to some real art after this. Chilite. What? Chilite. I don't know what you said. Is the way you wipe your mouth a part of it?

Chilite is the name of a book franchise that I would like to write so that then I can write more heady shit. This one's pretty simple for YA to understand. And you think Stephanie Meyer went to writing more heady shit after Twilight? Didn't quite keep up with Meyer. I didn't quite end up tracking her career,

but I do have an idea for a series called Chilite. Do you know that that's a band? C-H-A-I-L-I-G-H-T? No, C-H-I-L-I-T-E-S. So I'm not interested then. Because this is a book series, it's not a band, it's Chilite. C-H-A-I-

I'm telling you there's a band called the Chilites. L, that's the Chilites! The book series is the Chylites. Spelled different. Drop the the. It's cleaner. This is a book for everyone who would have had a crush on Bella Swan. If she had been just a little bit mixed race. In this version, Bella Non

Moved from sunny Arizona is Bella Nahn moves from sunny Arizona to chutney Bothell, Washington, where she meets Edward Patel, a handsome but Indian teenage vampire whose family bought Indian. but Indian, teenage vampire, whose family- But Indian? What's that? Because you don't dwell on that one. We have to move it right along. Whose family drinks chai instead of blood. Bella, more frightened by the idea of drinking chai than blood, nevertheless enters into the kind of romance

that American media tends to avoid at all costs, the kind with two brown people in it. KACEY LAUGHS OK, so... LAUGHS I'm willing to hear any concerns or praise, yeah. Kacey and I are both like on mute. Why is he a vampire?

I love Chai, I'll say that. Why is he a vampire? I love Chai, I'll say that. He's a vampire because people love that sort of eerie shit. They love zombies, vampires, werewolves. They love that kind of thing. If you drop that, they're not going to be interested, because then it's only spice. Then it's only Chai.

It's only that she just falls in with another Indian family. Correct. Yeah, well she's not full Indian. Oh right, yeah she's mixed race. But they aren't vampires. They don't drink blood, they drink Chai. Correct. They're not vampires, they're just child spirits. That's not a vampire part of them. No, they are vampires.

But they kind of are like, we shouldn't be violent towards human beings, we should just drink Chai instead. So they're not vampires. But they kind of are like, we shouldn't be violent towards human beings. We should just drink chai instead. So they're not vampires. But then suddenly she's scared by the flavors there. You know what I mean? She's like, it's a little spicy for me. Why would she be scared? Because she was raised by her white mom.

Right? Goes to live with her dad. In Bothell. Sorry, you said in chutney? In chutney. Goes to live with her dad. In Bothell. Sorry, you said in Chutney? In Chutney. Sorry, yeah. But it was sort of an adjective. Got it.

So, sunny Arizona to Chutney Bothell. Bothell's like a predominantly Indian neighborhood in Seattle. I also thought she was moving to Chutney. No, it's a neighborhood in Seattle that has a lot of Indian people, so I describe it as a Chutney neighborhood. So it's Chutney. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, you're in or? No, well, I'm just like, there is this whole other part of the Twilight series with like indigenous tribes that are werewolves. Well, that plays into it. Because then you start to get into this interesting discussion over nomenclature of, like, Native American cultures and Indigenous people to America being... Some of them are okay being called Indian. Some of them take it as a slur, almost.

And so then it's sort of which kind of Indian is Bella interested in. This is interesting to the, I guess, teens that want to read about vampires. Hold on. I want to clarify something. YA, YA. She was raised by a white mother, not an indigenous American mother. Ah.

So the battle for her is not. But her great grandfather. Okay, you didn't say that. Had an illicit affair with a native woman. We sort of get into the discord. And what is that? Did you say anything? Because she claims being part Tongva.

I thought she was. It's a lot of, yeah. Yeah, she's not biracial, she's multiracial. She's mixed race, I said. The mix can be any number of fractions. Yeah. Mostly white on the mom's side, with the exception of one sort of illicit affair.

And then her dad is just brown as hell. Pfft. How are you not interested in this? Casey's looking at it somewhere else. I'm just like thinking about the, you know, all of the, I guess guess the Patel family and the cafeteria, there's all instead of not just sitting there and not doing anything, there's all drinking chai.

Housing chai. Yeah. That's pretty like normal, I think. Okay. Would you, would you buy this in the room if it was mango lassi instead? The problem is just then it's like, what's the title? Lassi light? Well, if you then it's like, what's the title? Lassie-like?

Well, if you did a different title, it wouldn't sound like the name of a band that already exists that's unrelated. Twilassie? That feels like you're putting your whole like Mango Lassie into it. Yeah. I have a crazy fact. Let's hear it. Do you want to know what Russian people call tea of all kinds? Chai? Yeah. It's not crazy. Why? I'm not sure. I'm sure there's

an etymological reason. Now I know what you guys are wondering. Jeff hated that. What's the Chai now of ChaiLight? What's the Chai now? Why? It's like the why now in a pitch, but it's Chai now. I was going through all the books like new Chai. Right, right, right. Whatever Eclipse would be, breaking Chai. Right, right, right. Whatever eclipse would be. Breaking Chai. I think the Chai now is the Indian versus Indian.

I think you actually kind of accidentally struggled with it even though you didn't really think of that from the start and you made it up kind of during the pitch. But it sounded like I had it the whole time. That's the genius of me. That's the genius of me. That's the genius of me. What? What's the China of this pitch? Casey. Casey. Don't bring me into this. We got there really, really good.

Are you editing the outline? Should have had China from the start, I think. Casey. We've barely spoken. I think we can kind of address it head on. Are you tired post shoot or are you embarrassed because of your on set blow up? I kind of wanted to kind of talk about that. I was trying I was trying to be a respectful white man

and stay out of this conversation. I think I wasn't going to speak on things I'm not qualified to speak on. The Twilight series. The Twilight series. That's kind of a business. Yeah. Have you watched the Twilight movies, Casey?

I saw the first one. It was not for me. The baseball scene is not how baseball is played Movies are shot to be honest or how movies are shot No, I mean I was I was just really racking my mind around like okay, if so chai light But they are all vampires, but it's just like not addressed at all Chylite, but they are all vampires, but it's just like not addressed at all. We have moved on from Chylite.

It's because they're not vampires. We've moved on from Chylite and don't try to change the subject. Okay, then what do you want from me? I want... I have a clip... I wanted to see, and you're clearly trying to change the subject, so I don't know if you've reckoned with what happened,

but we can talk about it on day eight of the shoot, Casey blew up on set. I was recording. I have the audio right here. And I just kind of want to play it so people can kind of see who the real Casey is. And then maybe you can have a chance to apologize. I can't wait.

Yeah, I also can't wait. Okay, here we go It's got I mean, I'm lucky like I'm lucky I'm fucking I'm lucky I get paid to be an actor and I can't even fucking do this I'm lucky, you know, I mean, so just just just you know all in there and then just say it cuz you are All right, can't pass off right? I understand you're trying you may be trying too hard or you're not trying hard enough I don't know what the fucking problem is let's go it's fucking five lines man I don't want to give you a line reading if I wanted to give you a line reading I just fucking get in front of the camera and do it classic Casey it. Classic Casey. So that was me to you? Yep. Did you even have five lines in a row?

That was actually gonna be the first thing I said. It's not my fault. It's only five lines. I could have done 40 in a row. This is not, Casey wasn't just speaking to me in this fashion. You were yelling at Emily like that. You tabletopped Jack with the DP. You got on all fours right behind his knees and then the DP shoved him down to the ground. I was like, wait.

I was like, wait. And Father Gallo, by the way, played by James Urbaniak. Huge get. Huge. You punched him in the eye at the rap party. What do you have to say for yourself? I have socks for our pickups tonight. You weren't at the wrap party He was unexpectedly out of town

Texted with him just the night before kind of checking in on him Yeah, he was good excited to see him the next night Sorry unexpectedly out of town. Thanks for having Jeff wasn't at the wrap. I think. Welcome to a segment I like to call taking callers. This, I mean, the way I had to explain podcasting to my dad for so many years was it's recorded radio.

What do they do on radio shows? People call in, they take the calls, they talk. No one calls us. No one calls me. But we can call others. And that's what we're going to hear it. I'm not here right now. We made that decision. I'll call you back. Yeah, I didn't think he was going to pick up. All right, let's let's call Jake.

Hey, it's Jake. Leave a message. Straight to voicemail. Yeah. That one obviously hurts. He's not even gonna try, Amir, because if the same thing happens... Humiliating. It's humiliating. It's humiliating, but here we go. No, Amir might pick up.

But how is he going to hear us? We're not allowed to talk to him? He won't hear us. I unplugged my headphone so he can hear. Oh, that's nice. He's still not picking up. Hey, I'm not here right now, so leave a message. Oh my God.

This is humiliating. This is really fun. People hate the shit out of me. Who else? Should we all try to call them and see what happens? I guess I'll try my house. Bon Signore. He just had a baby. Do not call him. Isn't that kind of the perfect time? He's like at the hospital. Hello. Oh, we got him.

Miles, you're on the HeadGum podcast. We're doing a segment called Taking Callers. You really saved my ass here, man, because I called like four people and they all sent me to voicemail. So hey, man. My second son was just born. I was going to voicemail. So... Hey, man. My second son was just born... I was gonna say, yeah. Yeah, sort of 48 hours ago.

So I'm sort of taking this call just to make sure you weren't in a car accident. Is Sarah okay? Oh, Sarah's wonderful. She did great. She pushed that thing out of her vag. Not how you're supposed to talk about childbirth. And my son was sort of born the heir to my throne.

I guess the second heir. That's amazing. Yeah, he's not the heir to your throne unless something happens to Julian. If Julian is a Joffrey of sorts, Game of Thrones, am I right? He was king. Joffrey was king. Joffrey was king. But he was a bad guy.

Julian would still be king. He, he was a bad guy. Was the moral of the sort of third season. So don't wish that on on Julian, right? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, well, I don't want him to be evil enough that he gets poisoned by the leader of another land. Named you have a name. I feel like now's the perfect time to announce it.

So you think that you've called me here for a little wrapping a present for my first son, so he thinks it's from the baby. I'm in the middle of doing this, I'm wrapping it, so that way when he comes home from preschool he says, oh my god I have a present from the baby. He gets psyched. And now I'm all of a sudden I'm being lambasted on the Headgun podcast. Not lambasted, just maybe send a photo of the little tyke so he can kind of debut his face online. Which I've been blacklisted from. I've been blacklisted from the Headgun podcast. Ever since what?

I go on and I poke fun at one of your side hustles. I gotta go. I do have to go. Mausel. Let me finish. Let me finish. Sure. I want to say shout out to the Sydney Sweeney Bye campaign.

No way. Yeah. Once again, I just think you did a really good job on that. We do have to go because I fear what you're going to say next. But congratulations to Sarah. Congratulations to Julian. And congratulations to the newborn. Thank you so much. Congrats, Miles. We told you. Not so much the Lincolnburg kids.

We said you were on paternity leave. And this is rude. That really scared the shit out of me to not have anyone. Yeah. Pick up would be indicative of where I'm at. It's incredible that he stayed on the phone for as long as he did. Calling Riley. Yes, she's a Fiji. What's the time difference? 4030 hours.

We don't know what date is there. She is she shooting the Mike White season right now. It's only 10 a.m. there. I think so. Sure, she can't tell us. So don't ask. Hello. Did I just wake you up? Yeah, you're good.

What's up? I'm so sorry. It was 10 a.m. there. What happened? It is. It is. What's up? What's up?

But what are your normal sleeping hours if it's 10 a.m. there and I just woke you up? No, I should. It's my first. I have a day off. I have a day off. That's why I slept in. You're on the Headgum Podcast. I'm on the Headgum Podcast.

I'm on the Headgum Podcast. I'm on the Headgum Podcast. I'm on the Headgum Podcast. I'm on the Headgum Podcast. I'm on the Headgum Podcast. I'm on the Headgum Podcast. my first, I have a day off. I have a day off. That's why I slept in. You're on the Headgum podcast. We're doing a segment called, called make, well actually it'd be better to call it making callers but it was originally taking callers.

Am I actually on? I mean we can cut this if you want me, but you technically are on with Anya, Casey and Marika. I thought someone had died. So far, most people have not picked up for me. Miles picked up even though his wife just gave birth and now I woke you up and you thought that something horrible had happened. Because when was the last time you called me?

Over the phone, yeah. It's been months probably. I thought someone had passed away. Who did your I hate to even ask. Because I hate to- You go, no, I'm not. You go. I'm so sorry. And I thought it was like I saw the news. I'm so sorry. It was just that from your voice and the tone and timbre, I knew immediately you had just woke up.

Who I have to ask? Yeah, it's because I worked 19 hour days, right? Yeah. And so so when did you go to bed? I I just had a six hour. I had a six day shift when I'm kind of I'm going to bed at 10, waking up at three. And so finally, I have a day off. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. Well, how late were you going to sleep in? Probably till noon.

So. Two hours. I can go back to bed. OK, that's good. Who I don't even want to put energy towards this. But I do have to ask. Who I mean, who did your mind go to? When you thought someone had

been no more. Oh, hey, Marty, I want to know, too. We'll be back. You know, it's crazy. Holy shit. I had a oh, my God. No, I had a I had a dream that Marty, Jake and me were making a feature film set in like Utah or something. This is actually wild.

So just everything you've ever experienced put into one dream. Utah. LA Times did an article about it and you were on a horse in it, but the horse was on its side. And I thought that's a dangerous stunt. Sorry, a horse was laying on its side and I was on it. That means the horse's full weight is on my right leg. Yes, and I was part of the film. I thought, oh, that's kind of dangerous.

Well, at least with Marty at the helm, you know it's gonna be safe. I thought you were gonna say that Marty, Jake, and Amir were shooting a feature film and one of them shot the other. And that's what you have to call it. Yeah, sort of a Rust situation. It's wild that you called because they had a headgum-esque dream.

Well, you know that you can't spell trust without rust. Let Riley go to sleep. Yeah. Good night. I'm gonna go. Good night Riley. You should try and get another two or three hours of sleep. Namaste and apologies once again. Sorry Riley.

I love you all. Love you all. I just said goodbye. Yeah. Yeah, goodbye. Sorry. Anyone else's day you want to ruin or? Oh, that's enough.

Ali. Let's make her day that much worse. Who? Ali Khan. Hello? Ali, you're on the Headgum podcast with Marika. Oh, yeah. One ring.

One ring. We're really learning who my friends are. You're on the Headgum podcast with Marika, Agya. By the way, one ring. One ring, we're really learning who my friends are. You're on the Headgum podcast. We're making callers. What? We're, I'm calling people. I won? You won a call from us. Wow, wow.

People you, yeah, talk to every day. Well, nothing wrong with that. Most people that call me, I talk to every day. That's nice. That's nice. Casey, do you have anything to say to Kong? Congrats Ali. I don't know if he can hear me over there because just holding the phone up to his microphone.

But congrats on making it this far in the contest. Oh, my God. There's no doubt. He's kind of adding this contest element of which there is. You should bring you should bring a big check to Miles Riley. Ali's door. Yeah. Ali's asking if there's a T-shirt. I guess now we'll have to make a shirt.

You're making a shirt. You called, I answered. She's getting angry. Shirts aren't a bad idea. I picked up the phone when Jeff and I called. That could be something cool to put on a shirt. We will make a custom shirt for you and present it to you on an upcoming episode. Do you want to plug your Twitch?

Oh sure. Yeah, you can follow me or subscribe at gluing shit on paper on Twitch. And I make collages on the air, baby. Incredible. All right, we'll cut you loose. Really good. Oh, okay. But namaste. All right, well, I you loose. Really good. Wait, oh, okay. But namaste.

All right, well, I guess talk to you guys later. More than later. Bye, Ali. Okay, all right. Okay, bye. A real friend she is. Let's do one more call, and then we'll go into our final segment.

Katie moose. Zach Dunn. Katie moose would be funnier. Hey, this is Zach Dunn. Do you have a message? So. You got to send t-shirts to the people who didn't answer also. And a different t-shirt. I turned down the up the phone. I turned down the call. Yeah. I screened Jeff's number on the HeadGum podcast.

You could do a t-shirt that's like a fill in the blank and then write in like I picked up or I didn't pick up. Casey. Yeah, back to the movie. Yeah. Back to the movie. Um. He wore a custom. Hat. It was green with pink. Tec Blue Velvet. Is it what are you are you trying to sing to the tune of Blue Velvet?

This is a segment I like to call, so you know, night blooming jasmine? Uh huh. This is day blooming trash can. Aka critiquing Casey. This is a reference to something Jeff and I talked about in text, by the way. This is a reference to something Jeff and I talked about in text, by the way. So Casey, for the audience and for Casey, anyone who donated to the Kickstarter,

you were giving these nightly updates on how the shoot was going, correct? Yeah. Yeah, and you can't play those here. Those are exclusively for Kickstarter supporters. So if you start playing clips from that here publicly, I will sue you. Plugs! What do you guys have going on? What do you want to point the people towards? It's kind of interesting that we made it this far without Casey losing his cool once again, just like he did on day eight. I got a bunch of nice letters from my crew

telling me how great of a job I did. And almost every actor except for you, Jeff, told me that I'm an incredible director and I'm great to communicate with and I have a really strong vision and I know what I'm looking for. You didn't say anything like that to me. I I was going to give you a pair of glasses

and then snap them in front of you and say, you don't need these because you have the vision. But I was suddenly out of town. Yeah. Plugs, Marika, what do you have going on? What do you want to point the people towards? Fucking nothing, man. Anya, what do you got? Um, now that the movie's over, what's your identity?

I'm not over. Oh my God. Yeah, it's not over. It's not over until a couple months from now when Jeff thinks the movie will be ready for people to see. I don't have any thoughts. It'll be done, it just won't be out. I will soon.

You can still donate to the Kickstarter and you can get a ticket to the live stream. Yeah. Which will be good. Jeff's in it, he made me take a photo with him that I later learned our intimacy coordinator asked us not to do. Well, cause Casey put me in a fucking banana hammock, and that wasn't even for the shoot.

He said, hey, in between shots in this diner, where you're normally clothed, can you take your jeans off to reveal the banana hammock? Imagine Jeff on a press tour. I'm... I shiver at the thought. I did. When Marshmello came out, there were journalists for some reason at the red carpet. And they were for these very obscure publications.

For example, one of them was for a roller coaster online magazine. So they asked me all these questions. And that roller coaster magazine, part of it was roller coasters. And then another question they asked was phrased like this. They were like, this movie is based off of a camp story. Camp stories are often like playing on people's fears, but they're ultimately not true. How can you like how do we know what facts to trust in this, you know, political climate? And I was like, I'm fucking sorry.

It's like the New York mayoral debate. Yeah. And then like I just panicked. So I was like, well, you know, Pearson Foday, like the coast, like one of the lead actors, like he can answer that question for you. And then he said something about, like, well, you got to do your own research. And then after he said that, I was like, right.

And what you'll do in post is just cut, you got to do your own research and then just kind of AI something in there about vaccines. And that guy was, like, famous enough to have a PR person there and the PR person was like. A nightmare to them. That's really funny. And you won't be invited to our. Premier. You'll be unexpectedly out of town I'm sure. I think it'll be it'll give you good press. We'll go viral for all the wrong reasons.

Yeah, yeah. All the right viral, all the wrong reasons. We should do a reveal of the photo you made us take on set. We were singing. We should do a reveal of the, we'll talk about it later, reveal of theal of the photo that I wasn't allowed to take on set that you made us take. Maybe. I also have that beautiful video of you reading in the holding area and brushing through your hair.

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