The Headgum Podcast - 27: Grateful or Naw

Episode Date: December 4, 2020

Former intern John George (host of Big Boy Movies) joins Mike, Marika, and Geoff to discuss physical therapy, Geoff and Mike's first encounter, and gratitude (or lack thereof).Check out John George's podcast Big Boy Movies!Advertise on The Headgum Podcast via Gumball.fmRate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on Apple Podcasts.Join the Headgum Discord.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. I really thought that it said bomb countdown beeps sound effect and so I thought that it was going to end in a bomb and it just didn't. Kind of sounded like rolling thunder. Yeah. And then the bomb sound effect I had landed on wasn't even good to have. Oh, weird time capsule again because of the way that we record these episodes.

Thanksgiving is in two days. So this is Tuesday, November 24th, but this will come out next Friday. So how were you guys this Thanksgiving, do you think? Mine was bad. Sad and lonely.

Should we talk about who's on the podcast? Oh, all right. Sorry, I skipped ahead for four minutes. Yeah, so we got the core four here once again. Back at it.

It's Marika Brownlee of HeadGum fame. Mike Comite of Old Best Friend fame. John George of eSports Bad Boy Movies fame. And the HeadGum Discord. It's Big Boy Movies, actually, not Bad Boys. Well, no. I thought that you were doing like a holiday season,

like flip the switch on them from Thanksgiving to Christmas. You guys are going to be sort of like naughty. Oh, okay. And we only watch Bad boys movies, right? Bad boys for life. Yeah, just bad boys over and over. And then RV for a weird reason. Yeah.

Well, we just really liked that movie, RV. That's a certified classic. Oh, yeah. When he sprays shit everywhere. That was hilarious. Every movie should have that. Yeah. I always thought that,

I mean, you you know people praise hitchcock but uh i didn't see spray shit in the birds zero of it i thought you were gonna say people praise hitch will smith hitch is great i re-watched hitched over the summer sorry mike don't no don't be on your phone at all um you can't see anything i'm doing right now i don't know what you're doing But you're holding up a screen What is that? What are you saying?

Is that a lamp? It's my mic stand That thing that's glowing is your mic stand? It's the reflection of the screen Ah On a metal surface I truly thought that you were holding up your phone like this and showing us something.

Oh, this is going well. This is... Oh, so there it is. We... I don't have anything prepared today. I thought we could kind of... Marika and I have been trying to do... She's shaking her head, but I'm doing this for her.

No, don't say that. And again, this whole podcast is Marika's I have been trying to do... She's shaking her head, but I'm doing this for her. No, don't say that. And again, this whole podcast is Marika's brainchild. No. John George, have you heard the show at all? Don't put this on me. Yeah, I've heard two or three episodes. Okay. Well-versed.

It's a 10 out of 10. There's been 26 episodes, so you're not super well-versed. I must not be getting holy yeah i'm not it's a weekly show it's obviously a weekly show yeah i thought i had notifications on i'm so sorry can i sue apple sue who apple yeah because i didn't get the notifications on this this podcast i only got it for the first three and then i thought you guys just took a hiatus and this is the first one since after three episodes it would have saved marika a lot of should have yeah headaches um no we're trying to strike a better balance between it being a crazy wacky show and then actually just

being a talk show so i thought let let me not come up with some bits let let me just see where this takes us let's see what comes out. Mike, when was the first time you knew you were going to marry Aaron? You did this with the engagement ring last time. Oh, you're not married? No. In my head, I truly thought you guys were married. I just don't even have a ring.

In my head, I truly thought you guys were married. I just don't even have a ring. And it's just, you're just putting me on the spot in a podcast saying, you have to marry this person. No, you don't have to marry her at all. And let's just, okay, let's just take the pressure off. You are on record saying that you couldn't see yourself marrying Aaron. No.

That's fine. Oh my God. So Mike is wifed up or not. Marika're single john george you single no i'm not single well i know that you've been in a long distance relationship i'm wondering if it's open oh if it's an open relationship um yeah it's funny you bring that up because um she actually does think it's open she mentioned that uh last weekend via text um and i wasn't aware at all long long text or like a nice thing actually explaining herself or no it was just it was really short it was one sentence i think took up one line on my iphone really um and i have a smaller iphone as well uh yeah sure it was um i cheated on you

it was um i cheated on you so she doesn't even think it's within the bounds of the relationship no not at first she didn't um eventually she um explained that she thought thought that but um got it got it yeah um what did you what did you say to that what was your reaction um basically i sent her back a really really long text um basically just yeah basically just begging for her back um and okay begging for her love again because i right haven't really gotten it for years now so yeah yeah that's god um marika how's your love life i'm single

and ready to thringle no okay mingle sure i guess what about yeah that's kind of all of them that's all yeah i think i made that exact joke too two weeks ago here we go uh i'm wondering what do you guys look thanksgiving is two days from now this literally will come out on what what day is that december 6th december 4th i still think it'd be nice if we all went around and said what we're thankful for.

Okay. Yeah, sure. I can go first. Mike can go first. Okay, John. Who can go first? Who's going to go first? Me? You're obviously, you're jumping at the bit.

I am just thankful for a lot this year. So I've been waiting for this moment, kind of. I've been trying to guest on podcasts for weeks now, just waiting for this question. So I'm really excited. So you would have said what you were thankful for if you had guest it on a podcast in like october yeah basically yeah i've this whole year honestly because there's been a lot of unthankfulness in the air you know it's it's kind of been a weird year um well yeah there's been a global pandemic that's taken the like the lives of 250 000 americans so maybe not everybody's feeling grateful so yeah for good reason for sure

no but uh in all seriousness i am i am thankful that uh i'm able to be at home with my family for this thanksgiving honestly it's it's a joy that i'm that i'm able to even come home here i know a lot of my friends in la um are just sticking around because obviously during this pandemic, they don't want to fly in over there. So, I am thankful for that. It'd be stupid to do that. Why?

Because I flew back from LA. It was fine. I wore a lot of PPE. What's that? Well, PPE. We wore a lot of PPE. What does that mean?

PPE. PPE. Personal protective equipment. Did you do the, the shield? The face shield. I do double masks protective equipment did you do the um the shield the face i do mat i do double mask so i do the 95 cloth over that shield nice have you guys over the head yeah and then as always paper bag uh yes i have seen agents of shield yeah so it the joke passed i was gonna say have you seen agents of shield well i. So it, the joke passed. I was going to say, have you seen agents of shield? Well,

I'm an agent of chaos in the airport. Yeah. Fair enough. I have a, I got a tattoo on my, um, wrist and it just says, I have a bomb.

Um, why? So that when I like hand my like license to the, you know, the, the security agent, they just kind of see a little bit, but then they're like,

did his wrist really? No, it can't be. And then I'm Brown. So then then i get i get patted down anyways and you give them the eyes too you just you just make the really wide eyes as soon as they see the tattoo on your wrist no i i play it off like because i don't want them to think that they know anything it's like i want them to think go go home and be like, God, like, I really could have fucked up today. What if I like was responsible for the, you know, I don't want to get into it.

Mike, what are you thankful for? I am thankful for the vibrant club scene during the pandemic in my neighborhood. It's just it's been really great. Baby. Is that real? What? Yeah. I mean, no, I'm not actually going out to clubs, but you weren't.? Yeah, I mean, no.

I'm not actually going out to clubs. I knew you weren't, but are clubs open? Are people going? There's secret underground clubs. There's one down the street from me that got busted a few weeks ago. There was a big 7,000-person wedding in the neighborhood over last weekend, the weekend before. 7,000-person? That's unbelievable.

Do you go anywhere? Do you go to the grocery store? Like what's your limit? Grocery store is as far as I go. That's it? That's all you go out for? What about walks around the neighborhood? Walk around the neighborhood.

That's really it. That's all I can really deal with. Like walk to the park. I was going to physical therapy for like about six weeks. And then last week I just broke it off with my physical therapist. I was just like, well, first of all, the physical therapy wasn't working. It was getting worse. The problem was getting worse. And he's like, what's the issue? Can we ask? I don't know what the, no one knows what the issue is. It's just, I can't sit down for more than five minutes without my knee hurting a lot. One knee hurting a lot. So any diagnosticians out there, can you please just tell me?

This is our show's first outward and cognizant cry for help. There have been every episode of cry for help for me, but that was actually a new one. Yeah, this is my first. I have no idea what's going on with my body. I'm in so much pain. Just my right knee. I can't sit here. And somebody said it's like patellofemoral syndrome,

which is just a blanket term for knee pain. So like, oh, I come in with knee pain. The doctor's like, you have knee pain and you need to go to physical therapy for this. And did six weeks of physical therapy. The physical therapist just said to me, I don't know, man, I don't know what to tell you. You got to go back to the doctor

who sent you here in the first place. And then I looked at him and I was like, all right. right and he's like so you want to come in next week i'm like the covid thing's got me really freaked out right now so i'm just not going to come into this gym anymore okay that's absolutely fair i don't even go to the uh grocery store anymore instacart what do you do thrive Thrive Market? I have Imperfect Foods subscription. That sounds awful. Is that like the ugly tomatoes that they send you or something?

Or like the throwaway vegetables that look ugly? It's fine. It works. It's a throwback to an old HeadGum podcast. My roommate does go to the grocery store though. Mariko, what are you grateful for? I'm thankful that i'm healthy from what i can tell in this moment so that's kind of a big one i'd say that could change any day yeah it could but today all those weddings are going to and clubs and yeah

definitely hitting up the clerbs. The clerbs. What are you thankful for, Jeff? Thank you, God. I'm thankful for the gift, and I hate to say this, Mike, because I know this is going to piss you off, but I'm thankful for the grift of music.

The grift of music? I'm thankful for the gift of music is what i meant to say why would that piss me off why would i be mad that you're enjoying art because you make music and then i'm worried that you would kind of get defensive saying oh i come around here like i don't do i don't i'm not a professional musician i come around here saying i like music music and you're like you don't know actually music you've never been in the studio with old best friend I would literally no one's ever been in the studio with old best friend except for like one other person and Aaron once and she had to go like she do like backup vocals or she took she was

she was there because she just wanted to see what was going on she we were we were upstate for a wedding and I was also recording my album up there. Was it Jake's wedding? It was not. I wasn't invited to that. That's fair. It's fine. I was just a freelancer at the time. I barely made the cut. I had to beg him to come. Are you rubbing it in right now that you went to the wedding?

What's that? You're rubbing it in that you went to the wedding. Oh, well, you know, I don't want to like rub. Yeah, I don't want to brag, but you know, Bedford and Rika and I stayed in a haunted Airbnb. No, the bed and breakfast looked really cool. I heard you had a really big adventure finding the place, like a haunted one. Yeah. I heard the story.

It sounded lovely, Jake. He's not listening. The problem with Jake's specific wedding is that Jake, like he loves making new friends, but he like, you know, so to him, like so many people consider themselves close with Jake, but really they're not. I like, even I'm not that close with Jake, I would say. So the fact that I got invited, it was only because I was in the office with him every day and he could probably couldn't face me and say, Hey, you can't come. Like, you know, he's just such an extrovert and he makes you feel like

his friend the first time you meet him you know what i mean and nobody's backing me up here all three of us all three of you guys know him and you're like kind of staying silent because you don't want to piss off big boss man he's a nice boy i mean he's not my boss man i guess i could i could talk shit about him yeah so say like okay here's a fun thing john george say three negative things about jay kerwitz okay is that a fun and they can't be a joke these have to be genuine genuine bad things about jay kerwitz yeah um his name could be better i guess okay penn cooper is it the middle name yeah yeah like i i think it could be a little bit better i mean it's still's still good. So it's pretty good, but just like that much better? Yeah, maybe just a bit better.

He has a bad hair day every once in a while. That's almost everyone. You're asking me to say bad things about him. These are all true. And they're true, and they're bad. And they're not especially mean and personal. It's good. You're right.

Yeah, exactly. And every once in a while he'll wear a shirt and I'll be like I'm not the biggest fan of that one well that's just laundry day everybody does that also and everybody's name could be a little better I agree 100%

except mine what about this Marika I'm gonna pitch this segment idea to you right now and you have the it's up to you whether it goes through or not you're the EP here we go you've always been the EP of the show punch up the name so we could go around the four of us and just kind of

like figure out what's the best version of each other's names yeah I'll do it let's start with Marika Brownlee. Brownlee, to me, is great. I think it's Marika where, you know, there's got to be something. Where it falls apart. Are we including middle names here?

Yes. Okay, let's do middle names. So Marika Elon Brownlee. Yeah. So technically, if you want to get really technical, I pronounce it really technical i pronounce it elon elon it has an accent over it okay what about america elon brown so it's america's favorite college elon the worst my least favorite version of my name america elon the only thing that would make it worse is if you said brownie. As a fellow brown person, I feel like

I can call you brownie. And you can call me brownie. And that's like a fun little nickname that we can call each other around the office when I come to Brooklyn next summer. That's like isolating to everyone else in a way. We're at a bar and I'm calling you that.

Nick Rad tries to chime in. Hey, it's the brownies. The whole bar stops. Nick would never. He would never. I saw Nick Rad and Dylan... Oh my god. What's his last name? Sprouse? No, Dylan. Former and Dylan... Oh my God. What's his last name?

Sprouse? No, Dylan. Former intern Dylan. Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. What is his last name? I still follow him on Instagram.

Dylan Smith. Yeah. Is it just Smith? Yeah, it's Smith. I saw a fun interaction on Twitter between Nick Rad and Dylan Smith, two former HeadGum employees, and it just warmed my heart because that was the best year ever. What? It's a mean to say kind of how's that mean to say just like not necessarily everyone was involved in that year yeah true i saw all of you guys that year actually that's right yeah john george was at head gum that year i visited brook visited Brooklyn and you were in a HeadGum video.

That's correct. And Mike, we got lunch. Yes. We got lunch right before we went to Heatmist. Oh yeah. There's a photo of it. He doesn't remember. No, I remember the burrito lunch or the tacos we all got. It was great. You taught me what speeding meant

because you looked at me while I was holding the boom arm of the mic and you said, are you speeding speeding and i had no idea what you're talking about you just looked at me like are you speeding no one can see the way i'm looking at but i'm looking at jeff like you would look at someone who doesn't know what water is or something you know i didn't say it like that are you speeding are say it like that. Are you speeding? Are you speeding? Never say it like that. So judgy. Also, that's the first time like we just sit down to shoot the sketch and are you speeding?

I don't know what that means. We had a shouting match. It was like the second take even too and I still didn't know what speeding meant. I definitely did not yell at you about speeding. No, you didn't yell at me it's the way you looked at me you made me feel I swear to god no way all right the summer sounds not as great I'm so sorry I also thought you were two years older than me that's if that counts right so sorry

Mike you were more intimidating just the way you carried yourself. You carried yourself like a mature man. I think at that time I was 20. I know. No, at that time I was 19. Yeah, yeah. I honestly thought you were 30. 2017, over the summer, I wasn't even, yeah, anyway. Is that

the day that we went to the meatball shop at like 1am? That was such a fun trip. I don't know if it was for you, Marika, but I had a lot of fun. I just remember you being so excited to get both. I was like, I can't wait to find out what she's talking about. I don't know why this is so funny. It was like a very specific type of meatball thing.

I think it was the Thai peanut meatball. Not the pesto one? This was at the height of my fandom for Michael Chernow. I bought vans that he collaborated with them on. See, this is actually what the HeadGum Podcast was set out to be, was us giving inside stories from the network. This freak is crying. Because of how excited you were for a meatball?

Because legit crying. Amazing. Mentally, I'm fine. It was fun! No, it was like, I think it was just because you were so excited to eat i went to seymour's one night and then the meatball shop the next night and you were like pretty disappointed afterwards it wasn't that good but you got like you got the thing that was like it literally called under the kitchen sink salad no everything but the kitchen sink under the kitchen sink salad sounds awful

a lot more mold than that everything but also sounds bad and it wasn't good well yeah i was eating like way too healthily back then. It's like no carbs. It was bad. So I had a salad and Thai chicken meatballs. And that was like, that was how sad it was, is that I was so excited. And it was 1 a.m. I hadn't eaten a lot. John George, what's a choice memory from that summer uh from LA oh boy there's so many

oh my god um with you I with HeadGum specifically I remember with Mars with with Marissa going to like the Twitch um the Twitch E3 after party thing yeah and that was like I was thinking about that the other night it was like insane because well they're barely at first of all they're barely any people from twitch there that i know for some reason it's just all youtubers um and like i just meet like all these youtubers that i've been watching for like my whole life basically basically, like Jack's films and all these people, like H3H3 Productions were there. Like it was just a nuts, insane night.

And I remember one of them getting just so upset at me because he could clearly tell I was just a fan that somehow got, he thought in his mind, I was just a fan who somehow snuck into this party and was harassing him okay i was about to say why was he mad about it you were following him around the entire night offering to buy him a drink at the at an open bar yeah yeah basically now all i did was go up to him and say hi and introduce myself and he was already really pissed at me because what an asshole i know i was i won't name who it is i guess but um yeah i was pissed at him for sure

because they will say it and i'll just for me i'll i swear to god i'll cut it out swear to god dude um i i have to cut out shit about on the show all the time okay i don't know what that is yeah well you shouldn't he's an ass mike what's your favorite head gum memory from 2017 i i can't all the years blend together honestly like i'd have to look at my calendar to actually remember i mean it might was that the year i got hired i think so i don't i mean was that when we built the studio Marika because that's a very no that would be the fun no that was earlier that was 2016 that was like the summer that you were an intern Jeff yeah I don't even know what I did in 2017 for a headcount filmed that one Jeffrey the dumbass sketch remember, Mike, you being onboarded

and then like, I was just like, I really wanted to get to know all the New York people. And, but I didn't, I never knew like what you did

because you were a freelancer and like, you never came to the LA parties. No, well, because I was a freelancer and since like, I wasn't going to fly out for that. And also I worked retail at the time.

So it was like I couldn't do things with HeadGum. Even if I wanted to or I was invited, it would be like I would be working till like 10 p.m. on like a Friday night or a Saturday night just because that's the retail demands, you know, needs the business. And now you're a high roller. You're third in command? What? demands you know needs the business and now you're you're a high roller you're uh you're you're third in command what marty cohen you no i don't understand the company structure um i am a head of audio yeah scene no senior audio engineer it's a pretty cool title it's just because i'm over 30, though. So if you're over 30, you get senior, even if you just started? Yeah, you could be here for like two weeks.

You're just immediately a senior. That's not true, because Claire is like 30, and she doesn't have senior. You know, it's not my fault that these episodes don't always go great. People don't give me shit. We're just silent. What are we supposed to say? Chime in. I'm trying to make this episode more about the company. And you're not offering anything.

This podcast reminds me of like being in high school or something. Like the teachers fucking asking us questions. And everyone's like not responding they don't want to be here one time in college actually holy shit one time in college our professor asked a question and no one was responding and we legit sat in silence for about 10 minutes oh my god the professor just was like i'm not giving up like i want someone to say something immediately and at that point like once you get to like seven minutes like i'm just sitting there like if i say something like i feel

like i shouldn't like i can't i can't say something like it's gonna be you're either you're either the hero or you're the asshole. Exactly. Like, there's no middle ground. Or you're both, but to different people, depending on their perspective. So you're going to leave the class with a lot of enemies and a lot of friends you probably don't want. Exactly. It's just such a weird situation.

We ended up getting a lot of stuff to take home to do work on. Of course. It was such a, I couldn't believe, i just i thought i was legit dreaming at one point i was like what how has no one said anything why is she not saying anything what is happening that's what class was it i i've had so many classes in that classroom that they've all mixed together. It was in, I think it was my film class, but I'm not sure. It was my journalism film class, I think. Okay.

Yeah. Interesting. Mike, would you come out to the next anniversary party next year? 100%. I don't think there's going to be one, though. In September of next year, you don't think so? I am not because of head gum going anywhere, but because I think the pandemic is still going to be going.

I think the pandemic, and I'm a blind optimist, but I think people like us are going to get vaccinated in April or May. And then we're going to have a pretty normal summer. You'll just maybe kind of still avoid crowds to a certain extent and wear masks. I hope so. I hope that's what happens. It would be nice. Yeah. I'm optimistic.

What would you do that summer? Also, when you say people like us, what do you mean? Like not immunocompromised, not people over 65, not children, not health line workers. The core four.

Yeah, exactly. Thanks. I thought you meant like anti-vaxxers because that's kind of what all of us have in common in this room right now is that we're all against vaccines, but we kind of come around to... Yeah.

Well, you know, I think... Well, Trump obviously is like pro-vaccine stuff, and he used to be a huge anti-vaxxer, so he changed my mind. That's like, you know, I mean, you got to give him credit where certain things are due. Also, his immigration policy was pretty chill don't let anyone in right that's it yeah

well that's how i feel like you know we're not gonna let anyone in this zoom call how's that any different people it's hypocrisies where i see them you know i kind of have to i personally feel the responsibility to point them out hither and thither the zoom calls different from a country right why do you think this is a country oh i don't think the zoom calls a country i just think that america could learn a thing or two from zoom and i said that last year before this pandemic and it people have learned a lot from zoom but you meant the pbs show great i actually meant the way a camera lens kind of turns. I accidentally invested in the TV show rather than the meeting company.

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wear masks like where would you be going oh just you know the beach uh i want to go to montana uh like we're i'm genuinely why in uh livingston uh It's where John Mayer has his ranch and it's like a cool mining town. And there's a lot of artists and writers that live there and it just seems pretty cool. And you can kind of go there for cheap. Cause your flight, my flight wouldn't be connecting. So I've been to Montana once and it's just like a very different vibe from

the rest of the country. So I'd love to go there. Cause you know, you're not going to be around a lot of people. Now, granted, it's a hot spot. It's a hot spot after you get vaccinated. So I'm fly fishing in the Yellowstone River and suddenly Mike calls me up and he's like, hey, man, it's happening.

I say, what's happening? He says the anniversary party. And guess who's throwing it? I said, who? He said me. Suddenly I'm working in tandem on a tandem bicycle with mike comate trying to figure out what's the theme and i think the theme hope wow it's beautiful i just teared up like that was so good yeah that was so good and that's the right reaction to have

best speech i've ever heard what do you how are you guys like coping with the the virus going this long though like because for me the way my coping mechanism it mechanism is planning in air quotes for the future and like looking ahead to when i might be able to do normal shit again that's fair i feel like wait until this horn stops that's the first time i'm not gonna cut it out every time i edit this show i have and it's been better since you got a microphone marika but every time i edit this it's like i have to just at any time you're being silent the mic used to pick up the road sounds more so i'd have to yeah i know i try to I try to be silent when it's happening so it's not

which is so helpful I mean you have no idea how helpful that is Mike does and so does JG oh yeah I also understand that's why I'm doing it right no it's just the three of us because we all edit podcasts the core three yeah I also used to edit podcasts oh that's really good core three I love that no it's not necessary. I was editing podcasts before both of you, to be honest. Core 3! Core 3! Instead of Twinnovation, Blackman Cantrum.

You used to edit those podcasts? Yeah. What happened? Stopped. Didn't want to? Moved on. Stopped responding to their emails said no coping mechanisms though

I feel like I just trying to do or trying to supplement like things that I would do normally with like almost equivalent things at home like watching live stream theater that people are putting on now because you famously love broadway

yeah i mean i would just say i love theater not specifically broadway broadway has its own problems you can't get enough of the mainstream stuff it has its place and it's good so you prefer off broadway i don't prefer anything in particular in terms of like where things are happening. It's just the theater itself, the particular show. If it's on-Broadway and it's good, that's great. True or false? It's off-Broadway.

Riddle me this, true or false. Marika Brownlee would not be caught dead off-off-Broadway. I have been caught alive there. Okay. All right. Just wanted to clear it up. I really want to see a show go on at the cherry lane theater i have seen shows at the cherry lane theater the last thing i saw there was um oh hello off broadway incredible that's my favorite street in

definitely new york really yeah commerce street yeah it's the best street in new york it's the best street it looks like a soundstage and it's where a lot of the lonely island shot digital shorts so i didn't know that yeah it's got to be easy to like block off that must be why yeah also it's just like very scenic the um great day digital short like i don't know why but today's that thing is shot there yeah in front of the theater and also the i think the friends apartment exterior was back there but i i don't like friends so me neither same mike do you like friends i don't enjoy it no I do not we're crushing it

core 4 core 4 is back core 4 core 4 I love it alright I do have one game I didn't plan this but I thought of it just now

here we go All right. I do have one game. I didn't plan this, but I thought of it just now. Here we go. I'm going to this. This game is called. Grateful or not. So I'm going to shout out some things from a random word generator and you guys have to say whether you're grateful for it or not and there is a right answer okay it's gonna be all adverbs do we all do we all say it for one word or is it each person you have to come to a consensus core three huh yeah well a core three i'm

singled out because i'm worried that yeah oh can you specify like part of speech that you're going to be doing like is this are we going to be you'll it's like they're all nouns i think okay most part all right first word execution and this doesn't have to be like guillotine this can be like oh he executed well oh very different things i mean there's a lot of words with multiple meanings that if we like i guess we have to agree on what the meaning is beforehand so if we want to agree on execution and doing stuff i'm i'm yeah on that. Yeah. We're talking about, you know, capital punishment. I'm going to gnaw that.

Yeah, actually, new rule, you guys have to come to the consensus of what it is and then answer. Okay. I did immediately think

of the beheading someone type of execution. Me too. But once you put a positive twist on it i kind of want to roll with that one i'd like to be grateful of almost anything you give us here to be honest so that's yeah that's nice i'm i'm fine with going with a positive route as well and gnawing that final answer yeah correct so there's two

things there's two things we could get wrong in this we could choose the wrong meaning and be screwed yeah but no but it's really it's it's still 50 50 it evens out I think because you have to decide between the two meanings and then you have to decide yeah yeah yeah or

nah and then you might you might get to the answer the wrong way but it's like a math quiz if you get to the wrong answer you still get the points all right here we go and by the way these are all worth ten dollars each i'll venmo you guys rugby grateful or nah i'm grateful for rugby but what do you guys this is actually interesting because I did watch rugby for the first time three weeks ago. I just flipped it on because I was bored. I'm grateful for some aspects,

not so grateful for some other aspects, but overall I'd say I'm grateful that it exists. It's brought the world together in these times. I have never watched a rugby match, but I'm grateful that the opportunity exists for me to still watch one,

and I'm grateful that it brings other people joy, so I'm going to yeah that as well. Okay. Wow. You guys got that wrong. You're back all at $0. Did we get the wrong definition of rugby or something like that?

Yeah, rugby actually stands for raucous underground guys being y'all over the place y'all over the place not one word it's an acronym and it's actually it's supposed to represent the types of people that would go clerbing near Mike

oh alright here we go um engine grateful or not all right definition here we go are we talking like video game engine because there's someone very thankful for car engines car, also pretty thankful for them. They give me places. I can't think of an engine that is negative. I guess some, maybe, I don't know, maybe there are some bad things in this world that use engines to create stuff. Pollution.

Like deep fake learning engines. Those are kind of fun too because you can make funny Star Wars videos and stuff. So I'm yeah, just because I can't really see an overall nah to the engine. I'll yeah an engine. I'll yeah it too. Correct!

Engines only move us forward, including in the fight for climate change. We're losing that battle, though. All right, here we go. You guys are up $10 each haircut grateful or not just one yeah just cutting

one of the hair it's all up to interpretation I mean I overall I mean I haven't gotten a haircut in a while like five months maybe. But I guess I'm still grateful for them. I don't know. If they're only cutting one of the hairs, though, I wouldn't be grateful for that.

I'd be pretty pissed. Yeah, it's kind of a waste. I'm happy to go nah on this. Yeah, I'm nah. I just I think that haircuts are contributing to the continuance of the pandemic. That's true. Let's not for right now.

For the moment. Yeah. Okay. There's nothing better than a haircut for sure. No. There's so many things that are better. So many. I think COVID aside, I love my barber uh and she's just like very fun and like the whole

barber shop is like gossiping and chatting and gabbing and they give me a free drink worst sentence i love my barber if you bring code into it she's one of the worst people in the world and that's just my fight or flight kicking in. All right, here we go. Belt. Grateful or nah? I've always been more of a suspenders guy.

Belts are pretty good when you have loose pants. But honestly, why can't we just get pants that fit well enough that we don't need it we don't need a belt i feel like belts are i'm pointless i'm with you suspenders all the way but also belting things out like yelling it do you think that's the meaning oh yeah interesting like a conveyor belt yeah i'm thinking of like a championship belt too those are fun yeah that's really took a turn what's the meaning though we can decide on the meaning let's go with the belt things out

just yelling which I'm why was that such a no brainer for you like you were like rubbing your chin like honestly let's go with the belt things out it's not the first thing that came to anybody's mind I'm grateful for being able to yell

things and belting them out fuck it I'll say yeah I can't belt but I'm grateful for people that can most of the time sometimes you don't need to and they do it and it's unnecessary but i'll go with yeah i have to yeah now as well correct you

guys are all up 30 nice actually you might be up 10 i'll figure it out in the edit um yeah you know what was funny is that i originally also took this as belt which i'm grateful that they hold my pants up yes they you know in a perfect world we would all have pants that fit exactly right but um when you don't you're obviously happy that you know you're not pantsing yourself on the subway r you go and then belting things out just leads to good opera all right last word this one's got to be good it's got to be

just keep pressing random for days on end until you get a good one please and I'm not going to edit any of this out cave cave okay so a cave or two cave oh or does that not count i think it counts i guess yeah we do belt then you know a caving grateful or not what do we want it what definition i don't think i'm great what are we doing i just said grateful or not and then i saw john george have this like look of gravity on his face

like oh shit i don't know this is like this is the most he is in a very like distinguished office so it really added to the vibe this is the most serious thing i've ever done it doesn't fucking matter either way i'd have been taking this very seriously because you do have to answer and it is for cash yeah exactly um and i guess we have to don't we have to think about this from jeff's perspective as well because it because it's really if he's grateful for it or not not if we are I think he's thinking for us it's not his idea it's what he

thinks we should be grateful for he mentioned his pants and his belt and pointed to them well I don't know from my perspective it could be nice if people's pants fell down every now and then from my perspective jeez like as long as mine are up but i get like a glance at some gams why is that bad why isn't that good for me it's illegal it's

illegal for them not for me it's illegal to be naked in public yes is it illegal for the people to have seen that person naked in public no they would have to fucking arrest tens of thousands of baseball fans every time someone streaks which they should right which they should which yeah you've been saying that for years they deserve it they let him do it they could have stopped him they could have stopped the stream or her I guess sorry could be either

caves though nah to cave is bad caves are scary I'm out I'm out as well Mike I say nah incorrect are scary, so I'm out. Yeah, I'm out as well. Mike?

I say nah. Incorrect. You gotta be grateful to the people that are willing to cave, because guess what? I don't know if you guys experienced this, but confrontation's actually kind of shitty. To feel that someone's against you that day is awful. So, like, if either one of you caves,

you know, the conflict is over and you get to be friends again. All right. So we picked the wrong cave. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well,

this has been grateful or not. I think that about wraps up this episode guys thanks for joining us this week and I think this I thought it was good but before we go what do you guys do you have anything to plug John George I know you

host a couple shows and also stream on Twitch I don't want to plug for you but the know you uh host a couple shows uh and also uh stream on twitch i don't want to plug for you but the floor is yeah you basically just did sell i'll edit that part out then i want to hear it from the yeah the horse's mouth yeah um i have a podcast uh movie podcast called big boy movies i do with my good friend matt bb um we're not too consistent this year because people don't want to release movies for some reason. Overall, we're about to hit a big streak here of movies. December is going to be a big one.

I'm excited. Which one are you most excited for? Oh my god, that is maybe some Manc action. I'm all for Manc. What is that? You don't know about Mank? No. It's the new Fincher.

It's one of the worst names or titles I've ever heard. It's so cacophonous. That's why I'm excited for it. Because I get to spend a whole day saying Mank on a podcast. You know what movie you guys have to cover? A friend of mine, Bob Buell, told me about this movie it's called zardoz it's from like the 70s it's an action movie featuring i think sylvester stallone or something or someone even more deep and uh or maybe it was like the answer to rambo or something he could have explained it better but just it's called zardoz it was a flop

it was awful okay maybe check it out i'll i'll look that one up and yeah i guess i stream on twitch as well twitch.tv slash john underscore george and then what uh do you have an episode that you specifically that you want to point people like a good intro episode for big boy movies honestly i really my favorite one is still the one that you and our friend george salvo were on um 1917 i think that one is oh it's really good i just bought that on dvd oh yeah have you seen it yet yeah yeah they've seen it twice wow that's fast that's the last movie i saw my question is jeff have you seen it the pandemic i have not still haven't seen it and you're on a podcast about it yeah yeah yeah i had a lot of practice with that in film school i'm just saying i watched seen it. And you're on a podcast about it. Yeah. Insane.

I had a lot of practice with that in film school of just saying I watched movies and hadn't. Still got good grades. It's a good skill to have. Mike, anything to plug? Old best friend? Listen to Dead Eyes podcast. Time Magazine called us one of the top 10 podcasts of

the year of 2020 you sure did true and then old best friend wherever you listen to music um you know marika i thought you were saying something else um follow me on twitter and instagram at marika elan and letterboxd also marika elan trying to rack up those Letterboxd. Also at Marie K. Lon. Trying to rack up those Letterboxd followers. You have a great Letterboxd. I love your Letterboxd. My heart skips a beat whenever I see anybody I follow on Letterboxd

just also have watched this movie that I just watched because I get to just feel like I watched it with you. It's amazing. That's a great feeling. It's an exciting skips a beat. Not like I thought you were scared. I'm scared that someone else saw this. No, it's an exciting,

yeah. And you can follow me on Instagram and TikTok at I am Jeffrey James on Twitter at don't play no James. Thank you guys so much for listening to the show. If you like what you hear, rate us five stars on Apple podcast. It really does help with the algorithm and maybe tell a friend or two about the show. Get them into it. It'd be help with the algorithm and maybe tell a friend or two about the show. Uh, get them into it. Um,

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