The Headgum Podcast - 40: Branded Content Pitches

Episode Date: March 5, 2021

Jake, Amir, and Marika join Geoff to discuss branded content opportunities for the show, trends of the 2000s, and smoker's voice. Subscribe to the new Headgum podcast Keeping Records on your... favorite podcast app!Advertise on The Headgum Podcast via Gumball.fmRate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on Apple Podcasts.Join the Headgum Discord.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Original. Previously on the HeadGum Podcast. It's just even with a vaccine, we like still have a flu season that kills tens of thousands. Like what if COVID is here forever? I don't know. I get kind of excited and sexy thinking about that kind of shit. You get sexy? Sexy? Just like imagine like, ooh, every winter we all go into hibernating and it's like a cozy little thing and 250,000 people die every year until our loved ones are gone.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I don't know. Does anyone else get horny and bothered by that thought? I don't know. That's like kind of naughty. Is that thought bae? What? It's like a zaddy idea. What do you mean a zaddy idea like imagine a guy who's like a silver fox telling you that even in five years
Starting point is 00:00:47 if we have a vaccine this thing will just rule our lives until we're all gone i don't know that's kind of hot to think if it's brett farve breaking that news wait why brett farve because he's a zaddy dude dude and so it continues. You're grimacing more than usual at the top of this episode no i just like yeah oh wait i'm not supposed to play copyrighted music um let's just start the fucking show friday february 26th 5 30 eastern and we're on the we're on the border we're on the border, we're on the brink. I don't know what else to say. That J&J vaccine is, it has been seen by the FDA. That's federal dorky asses. Sorry, what did you call the FDA?
Starting point is 00:01:59 The FDA is federal dork asses. Like if you're going to be on an agency and sit there, then there's no way you were cool in high school, right? Yeah, I don't know. I think they're doing some pretty amazing things this year with the turnaround on a lot of these vaccines because they also have to keep up their normal day-to-day. So they're kind of doing a double job for us working overtime. So I appreciate it. I appreciate it, yeah. No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:02:22 You call them dork asses. And you said if you are sitting sitting on a seat at that agency you were a loser in high school at an agency so what about like any of those like creative digital agencies where like cool young hip people work any agency they were a dork in high school dork asses yeah what do you think people that were cool in high school do as their job now? If that's like your barometer. Analysts. Mostly analysts.
Starting point is 00:02:49 So close to the, so close. They probably have analysts at the agency. Yeah. They probably. That's true. So theoretically. Then the analysts at the agencies are cool. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I have to carry the burden on this fucking show. Like today I'm like feeling at an even keel and I'm coming in with that fiery energy, that, that, that passion, that, that passion. So passionate.
Starting point is 00:03:14 You kind of stutter as you decide the emotion. I have that, that, that, that, that passion. You also immediately gave up on music. And then as the intro for the show,
Starting point is 00:03:24 you just said the exact date and time, which I feel like no one ever really wants to know on a podcast. But that's because you've got that passion, that hustle, that drive. That I don't quit type of shit energy. It'll be March when this comes out. So don't like date it by saying February 26th at the top. That makes it seem old and stale nobody wants to think about february once it's over february is the worst it's march and you're like
Starting point is 00:03:51 it's february 26th by the way which is probably one of the worst dates in february like the 26th just get it over with maybe the 19th is worse but like why do you have to remind us of that shit it's march 4th or whatever the fuck. That's exciting. March 4th, like let's march forth into spring. That would have been a good intro. That would have been a good intro. Yeah, and you're just grabbing our arms and saying,
Starting point is 00:04:14 actually, it's February still, the 26th specifically. Fine, march forth. Let's march forth into the new season. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, that's really good is that a soylent looks like a well it's a pop and bottle it's just like a pretty artisanal uh company i started investing in they have started investing in them mct oil energy it's fair trade and it's woman women founded what the fuck you woman found You invested in it? That's a plus.
Starting point is 00:04:45 That's a good thing. Especially if you're investing. It feels like you're figuring out what the company is as you read the bottle and you also sunk your cash into it. And you're upset that it was founded by women. Well, I didn't invest in the company. I bought this. I bought this bottle for $8.
Starting point is 00:04:59 That's not investing. This is a share. No, it's not. I'm actually, I'm voting with my dollars but you're not gonna share do you share that no well i had i let avital have a sip of course it's 100 milligrams of caffeine which seems like you know to like a little i don't know they have a little icon do you think this is like one and a quarter or like one or two looks like half. I'm like jittery talking about it. How many have you had?
Starting point is 00:05:27 I've had three of these today. $24. Yeah, 365. You don't have to say the price of shit. It's on the microphone. Jake and Amir, you just did your live show two days ago. How did that go? It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:05:40 That was us peaking. That was us at a high. Marika produced it. Well, because you didn't adjust the sound levels. Yeah. yelling we peaked we bottomed out we stalled we walked the room uh amir left the zoom it was a disaster we have been dropped by our agency we've been blacklisted by hollywood so i'd say it was a success yeah one of you guys said I don't forget who it was or if it was a guest but somebody said we walked society and that was like the funniest
Starting point is 00:06:09 we walked civ western civ as we know it is gone of us we left a high school history class in the wind gone forever god so loud and then Marika what did you do because you were producing so then don't do the sound effect if it doesn't transition to anything that didn't separate
Starting point is 00:06:34 and it just cut me off and then you continued the conversation like you didn't do it right okay but like marika produced it you guys were in it I didn't even pay for the ticket. I used the code you sent to the Slack. You did send in a question that I saw that said, what's y'all's body count? Which I just decided to not contribute. We'll bleep these out, but let's finally get to the bottom of this. There's probably no need, right? I don't want to say it out loud, even if you bleep it. I'm not going to say anything, but you could bleep this entire sentence that I've been talking. It'll kind of feel like you bleeped for really, really long.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Whoa, Jake! Nice. Man, dude. That's a huge number. That's why it took so long to get through it. Oh, branded content. Let's talk about it. What companies might want to work with the show?
Starting point is 00:07:22 And how do we integrate that creatively so that it doesn't feel like we're shoving product down people's gullets? We just spent like five minutes shoving a product down people's gullets. A shill for this caffeine milk company. Pop and bottle. Yeah. This is the almond latte, vanilla cold brew. They have matcha. I was going to say they have matcha.
Starting point is 00:07:42 They're only promoting it because you're an investor. I'm an out-vestor what do you feel like is the best what's the best brand to associate the HeadGum podcast my pillow I tested that pillow when we did pillow reviews on the goat show
Starting point is 00:07:57 it's the worst pillow even before I found out that the guy was a fucking maniac yeah I guess that makes sense it would have been sad if they did a good pillow. I guess that kind of tracks. You can be a bad person, and then that usually means you're bad at your hobby. It's a bad pillow, but at least it's his.
Starting point is 00:08:13 It should only be his. He deserves that pillow. No, I truly believe that we need to get some kind of branded content deal done for this show. I mean, what's the show's ethos? What's the mission statement? I guess it would be's the show's ethos what's the what's the mission statement i guess it would be answering the world's most pressing questions with uh podcasting's most important celebrities you're talking about this show that was i sure is way self-aggrandizing that's what
Starting point is 00:08:39 you think this is inaccurate description that's, a mission statement is usually like. They said that was the show's ethos for sure. It's like the opposite. No, the mission statement, the mantra, yeah. Last episode, you just interrupted people with a damn Daniel drop a lot. So I don't think you're necessarily. Damn Daniel, back at it again with the white fan. The thing is Ferris mixes it to sound better.
Starting point is 00:09:05 He EQs the... Yeah, but for us, it's painful, and you need to know that. Yeah, Ferris, keep that one as is. Don't make it softer or better. I guess we could do Vans because of the damn Daniel thing. Like you mentioned, we could do Ugg. That's cool. Because Amir is constantly like, ugh.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Like, you know, Ugg, E-G-H. So maybe there's an Ugg to be had. That's cool. Well, because Amir is constantly like, ugh, like, you know, UGG. So maybe there's an UGG to be had. That's not bad. Maybe there's like a cryotherapy thing to do. So like the four of us freeze our asses and kind of wax about it. We could do a wax. I mean, I would love to do
Starting point is 00:09:40 cryotherapy, I think. That's great. You'd love it. I did it last year. Incredible. It was an incredible experience. What about instead of cryotherapy i think that's great you would you'd love it i did it last year incredible yeah it was incredible experience what about instead of cryotherapy and we freeze our asses we freeze our assets with crypto therapy so we take all of our money and put it into like a trezor wallet and invest in everything from cardano to tezos and then don't deserve to have cash you shouldn't have any money wow wow that was actually pretty interesting to hear you don't that's a good tagline for this idea yeah crypto therapy you don't deserve to have cash that's not i know you're joking about it but that's really good so it's kind of like a yeah
Starting point is 00:10:28 it's like a findom uh blockchain yes kind of a deal yeah it's like negging it's like exclusivity breeds supply and demand so like arby's for example could instead of we have the meats like making it sound like it's readily available for anyone who walks through the door it could be like arby's you don't deserve the beef yeah that's good and then people are like well i think i could do the beef yeah well if this was a if this was head coin instead of head gum we could release 500 cereals of this episode and after that nobody else can listen to it so we just artificially limit the supply that way people have to listen to it right away and it'll go to the highest bidder and then when you're done listening to it you can actually sell it to somebody else at a profit so it's the only podcast
Starting point is 00:11:07 that pays you to listen to it yeah and then you can sell it like off of jeff's thing uh burger king you could not have it your way would be the tagline just circling back to the other yeah the other thing was just this weird bad headline like for a restaurant i was talking about like kind of like breaking through the podcast space with something kind of interesting, cutting through the noise with like a token, almost like a certifiable token where it exists only in this marketplace.
Starting point is 00:11:33 McDonald's, you're not loving it. Yeah, that's the opposite. You're not loving it. You're despising it. So what? That's not good. That's nothing. And how about for Popeye's?
Starting point is 00:11:41 It would be like, no chicken for you. That's good. No, it's not. The tagline for Popeye's is love that chicken from popeyes so it'd be hate that chicken from popeyes not no chicken for you it's not the soup what's that kfc could be like i don't think you are gonna get any chicken today sir not today it keeps going on not. Fat fucking chance in hell. You lose. There's no way they're using the F word
Starting point is 00:12:07 in an ad or a tag. Kentucky fat chance. No way you get our chicken. Okay, that's actually good. This is why we'll never be rich. But yeah. There's got to be a way to get rich fast. I know we talk about it a lot on the show.
Starting point is 00:12:24 I wonder if Adidas might sell for a low price, but the revenue stays the same. So you want to buy an entire billion dollar corporation? We own the three stripes. We can make the motto anything we want. Let's hear the damn Daniel drop again. No, please. Damn Daniel. Why not go after a brand that's like Adidas, but would be a little less expensive?
Starting point is 00:12:43 Why not try our hand at acquiring an umbro or um not not quite a puma what's lower than puma what about skyline chili and we pivot instead of making like hot sauce as we do you make sneakers yeah you guys really have to focus your energy you're all over the place you're like rebranding kfc one second talking about buying adidas another and then you're making chili again like you're too scatterbrained you have to it's as irreverent as you owning a string of fucking numbers and letters and it being a basketball moment and that's worth three thousand dollars it's as fucking crazy as that to me i don't know because i'm actually let's do andrew yang for new york city mayor and then he rebrands the city as instead
Starting point is 00:13:24 of the big apple it's like you can't cross the bridge and he closes the borders. The 21 bridges. What's that? The 21 bridges. I don't recall. Like the movie. That's the plot of 21 bridges.
Starting point is 00:13:35 They close the bridges. Alright. Well you're sad about that? That someone else actually came up with something that's tangentially related to one of your stupid ass ideas? It's a movie. You should be happy by the way that that happened in real life. You're talking about focusing your energies.
Starting point is 00:13:48 We have to figure out what this fucking show is. Either we're all taking part in a central discourse and I'm just one player that happens to be on every episode or I'm in the fucking driver's seat and you guys don't try to derail the show to talk about branded content opportunities. You introduced that. All right, well, I forgot.
Starting point is 00:14:05 This is episode 40. Episode 40 and you're trying to figure what was that daddy chill i feel like you're just so close to leaving 15 minutes you're goading us into having a response that you can respond to from your soundboard. That's what it is. You gaslight us till we yell at you just so you can hit us with a daddy chill. You're not wrong. Let's just get it back on track. Let's have a genuine conversation for the next six minutes.
Starting point is 00:14:38 All right. That can't be that fucking hard. Marika, you take the reins. Say that into a mirror, man. What? Say that into a mirror man what say that into me man jesus marika takes the reins slash brownlee's druthers okay i've this is i'm now at the year point of the time that i last traveled when i went to london remember that. Yeah. Great times had
Starting point is 00:15:05 thinking about it when we can escape our homes. Where's the first place you guys are going? I've thought about this so much. I've asked this on the show like seven times.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I'm not saying that we shouldn't talk about it, but people are going to yell at me online about it. They won't because I've got a different answer this time. Last time I said Iceland, but I'm going to say a different one this time. I resent the sound of the timer immensely.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, it's not great. It's not great. Power through. Move on. You don't have to put it in here. Blumenfeld, where are you going to go? Are we going international or we have to stay in America because other countries won't? I haven't gone yet because it's a surprise.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Let's go domestic and international. Okay. Domestic East Coast. Haven't been in probably a year and a half at this point. So check out the situation there. Hopefully things are open up again. Whatever restaurants are left, I can enjoy. Maybe I'll go to Hawaii, a little tropical vacation because I've been stuck in this desert
Starting point is 00:16:03 climate for so long. So that'll be a nice change of pace. International, I can go to Canada. That's, you know, Vancouver is really nice. We can fly to Australia, New Zealand, Israel. A lot of options there. Go back to Europe. Haven't been to London in a while.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Barcelona, Spain was great. Any of these cities that were ravaged by COVID, I can reenter, enjoy, and, you know, take part in the renaissance. And I guess last and certainly least, Austin, Texas. We were supposed to go to South by last year, couldn't go. And now it's completely destroyed by this storm. So I guess they're reopening that eventually. And then we can go back there and enjoy whatever's left of that city as well.
Starting point is 00:16:43 So those are my 12 answers. Where's the timer? Where's the timer at i need to know all right cool two minutes if you guys go to auckland for a live show you should have mel bracewell as a guest okay i love her i'll remember that fucking asshole that sounds that's a great when jeff says something earnest you shoot him down and when he does a fucking bit you're mean to him he can't win you have to reward when jeff's when we do a show in auckland who knows when that'll happen i can't remember that name for like two and a half years it's like oh wait actually i think back in february 26th or whatever the fuck jeff mentioned that we should have a specific opener for this city that we're doing. New York.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I'd love to go to New York. I'd love to go to New York to see Jake, see Marika, see my other friends who live in New York. Check out the New York office. I've never seen it. The new one. And yeah, fucking Jake, you have a minute and five seconds. Cool. Have you ever been to Machu Picchu?
Starting point is 00:17:44 No. Well, I'm not fucking going there. That was delayed from Marika having not been. It still works with me not fucking going there. I'm going to go to Croatia internationally. And domestically, I've been to 49 of the 50 states. The one state I have yet to go to is North
Starting point is 00:18:08 Dakota. So as soon as we can travel, I'm going to go spend the weekend in Bismarck. That's awesome. With my wife. Yeah, it's going to be pretty damn nice. I think you've seen enough of her. That's funny. She's a new travel buddy.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Take Jill's name out of your fucking mouth scumbag okay say anything don't talk about my wife like i didn't i just said all right oh my god her name why don't you forget you ever even fucking knew her why i was just saying all right fucking fine man you don't get to talk about my wife. By the way, she texted me the other day wanting to go to North Dakota with me. Like, do you want me to accept that invitation? Now I feel weird. Do you know her new number? You have her new number then?
Starting point is 00:18:54 Jesus, yes. It's a group thread. We wanted to take a fun little gal pal sort of couples trip situation. Share that. Let's move on to the new segment. Share that contact with me, bud. And then forget my wife's fucking name. And her number.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So you want me to delete the new number? No, send it to me first, ass. And then delete it. And then you delete it and forget her name. I don't want to be put in the middle, but I would really probably fucking forget the ever new Jill. Just to make sure that this doesn't happen again.
Starting point is 00:19:25 They're taking his side in this. He's the one who's overreacting. You don't have to take any side. I mean, his feelings are valid. Like, I just think you should move on. Tell him to forget her fucking name. I think you shouldn't remember her name in a way. I'm not going to be able to forget.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Like the more we talk about it, the more I'll probably remember her name. You can't tell someone to forget something. That's not how it works. What's Jake's wife's name, Amir? What? What's Jake's wife's name? It's Jill. I know what it is still.
Starting point is 00:19:48 It's Jill. You should take it out of your fucking mouth. Don't know that. Don't have that. I'm answering his question. Fine. I won't say it anymore. He didn't even want me to forget it,
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Starting point is 00:23:39 without sam shackle well it's sort of stuck there's a lot of people on the discord and reddit being like that episode was one of my favorites and it had to have been because of shackle or not this one's thousands edition basically i'm gonna shout out some trends from the aughts and you guys are gonna say whether you'd shackle them or not basically toss the handcuffs on them bring them over hey get over here you know and uh no i don't know that's oh that's mortal combat in a way amir i pitch you um my idea for like a vr game based on mortal combat it's so loud yeah i got excited about the idea you hosted 40 episodes of the show and you never had to do that before you never had to get that close to the mic. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:24:25 It was a complete accident. Jordle combat. So it's basically like Scorpion and he's rocking, I don't know, Levi's 505s or something. That's copyright infringement and stupid. What was your question for the game? All right. I'm going to list a couple of things. This is open discourse, not for cash, not a game.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I don't think that affected you what i said what your idea was so bad and illegal that i don't want it to like sort of wash over you you didn't learn your everything's public domain it's a certain point and if i got upset every time someone talked to me the way you just did i wouldn't be able to fucking get up in the morning good i don't know what it is about how i operate within the world it seems to rub people the wrong way even like passing glances with like cashiers, they tend to like shoot me glares, really. What do you do when you're at the market? Let's see your passing glance. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:15 So where do I go? I'm at 365, right? Whole Foods. I'm at the mochi refrigerator. There's someone else trying to grab some mochi. I'm like, oh, excuse me. Can I get through here? I just need to grab some of this mochi and you're yeah you're shooting me an icy
Starting point is 00:25:28 glare like you're and you're not wearing a mask right that's just that's what you're exactly like i didn't hear you pull your mask down do not touch my face do not do that and you're like awfully you're like grabbing at the mask you're very close to their eyes i want to see something just one second i swear to god i'll turn my face so that i don't fucking infect you you literally rub people the wrong way that's the problem you're rubbing people the wrong way all right middle parts again this is all aughts edition shackle or things that we are keep we want to come back we want to have now exactly shackling them in a way kind of like get over here i'll shackle it i basically have one yeah
Starting point is 00:26:13 yeah i also basically have one i think it's the look i'll go nah i don't look good in a side part or middle part yeah i'll go i'll go i want to it. My hair won't even allow it right now. It fights against the gravity too much. It has its own agenda. If you could, you could just put your hair straight in front of your head. You could do bangs, right? Should Amir get bangs?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah. Is that crazy? Wow. Hey, that's not bad. I think Amir should do curtain bangs. I don't think so. I think the hair will get in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:26:45 You're calling Amir a betch? No, I'm actually not a betch. He's so funny. No, it's not. I resent the accusation. I'm not a batch or you're a betch. So like leave that. No, it's just like we'll be out to brunch.
Starting point is 00:26:58 We used to be out to brunch like all the time and you were like bottomless. I've never seen you before at 8 p.m. I've never seen you during I've never seen you during everything I've never shared an egg with you on a weekend no you would you wouldn't do that you would do the flapjack it was a good batch move it was so funny I don't think so it was like it was next one have you guys next one next one easy man let to the next one. I don't give a shit. I'm not even fucking kidding anymore. No.
Starting point is 00:27:29 He's doing a bit. No, because we keep on placating his ass and it's just more of the same. Let's get through this. He was just being funny about your hair. He's crying. You're making him weak. Good. I want him to be sad.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I want him to. I want him to. Don't make him sad he has to host the show just tell him he's in a closet crying oh he's laughing oh sorry i was just thinking about the uh this one time we were out to brunch soho warehouse right all you can hoard yams and amir is being so funny it was like it was unbelievable what a certain. This is exactly what happens when you give him an inch. I couldn't get enough of our banter. He's a sociopath.
Starting point is 00:28:09 He feels nothing. There's no remorse. There's no growth. I'm genuinely concerned for him, to be honest. Have you guys ever done bottomless? What? Non-skinny jeans. Shackle or nah?
Starting point is 00:28:21 Shackle. Major shackle. I'm off skinny jeans. I unshackled them a long time ago what do you do i wear jenko jeans i wear cargo shorts i don't think so i do i wear dave matthew style pajama pant bottoms to work okay that's my shit i'm not getting rid of skinny jeans because there's a time and a place for them. And I had already had to experience the boot cut dragging on the ground, getting wet, fraying at the edges thing. And I'm not going back to that.
Starting point is 00:28:52 But there's a time and a place for other kinds of jeans. And I will wear them at my discretion and be fine with whatever. I'll have one tiny pair of black jeans. Tiny? Yeah. Yeah. So not even just skinny? Sheer. Thin in the waist, thin thin in the ankles they're not my size they're they're okay they're a youth medium okay
Starting point is 00:29:13 what's the age seem like 25 14 brother oh my god those are shorts those are jorts yeah they're small they're tight i'm wearing toddler shoes and a cowboy hat. Why the cowboy hat? That's not in line with small clothes. Because I'm trying to do all you can hoard yams with y'all. The bottomless brunch thing. What kind of toddler shoes? Fucking Chucks, like little Converse. But they're tiny Tims.
Starting point is 00:29:38 They're really cute tiny ones for little baby feet. So sweet. Do you say you need Tims, buddy? I said tiny Tim's, like the character from that Christmas story, but as shoes for toddlers. Christmas carol? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:53 It's Micah. Come here, sweet boy. Holy shit. Look at the dog. It's a co-host. He came down to find me because he's so fucking cute. I'll be up soon. Not really, though. Sorry. I'm only about halfway through. He came down to find me because he's so fucking cute. I'll be up soon. Not really, though.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Sorry. I'm only about halfway through. Don't lie to them, I'll be pretty soon. There's like 10 more minutes, max. Let's do lightning round. Dresses over jeans. Nah. Yeah, I'll go nah.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Was that ever a thing? I don't know. Yeah, for sure. There's a time and a place, and I think I'd like to reserve the right. I'll shackle it. I'll shackle the bitch. Okay. What about Von Dutch hats?
Starting point is 00:30:31 Nah. Nah. I'm going to go shackle. What'd you say? I'm going to go shackle. Shackle what? The Von Dutch hats. Anything?
Starting point is 00:30:39 I don't know. Anything? Anything? Anything? I'm so neutral at this point. The segment went way longer than it's supposed to it's running a minute and a half late you're the host you can end it you could just like cut off the question you're looking at also you were complaining about
Starting point is 00:30:53 this probably being too short so if it goes over it's fine survivor one two three shackle or not answer all at once let's go shackle no. You haven't answered for the past fucking four. Either take part in the game or take part in the game. Those are your two options. Then I'll leave. Don't leave. That wasn't like change the... All right, here we go.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Multicam sitcoms. Shackle, yeah. Bring them back. I love multicams. They were funny then. There's got to be a way to make them work again. Let's do street art being considered highbrow. Shackle or not.
Starting point is 00:31:24 No. Like what? What do no like like what what do you mean like what like the fucking frick would frame a well you know honestly at a certain point at thornsbury what shackle artist the frick would frame a thornsberry and then we actually say shackle or not to that. And you're mad that we're confused. Three of those words are not.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Moving on. I'll shackle. Yeah, I mean, I'll shackle it. What about blogging? What about blogging, man? Shackle it or not. That was like a fucking aughts thing. Everybody was on Tumblr. Everybody was on their own e-zine that they would launch. Fucking blogger. B-L-o-g-r i don't know i've mixed i have mixed feelings live journal's gonna come back tabloids i want to start a newsletter i felt like i could start
Starting point is 00:32:16 a newsletter you should a sub stack of sorts yeah yeah that's what i that's what i would do that's essentially blogging yeah exactly also i feel like uh i think twitter and tiktok have become what tumblr was like it's the same content we're just recycling things over and over again yeah i'm seeing this so i don't think we need that's fair tumblr i think that like feeling lives on elsewhere yeah all right what about tabloids so like joke here what's that nah not shackle that's the game it's shackle or not like you it's so easy to understand if you say nah or not we said we played the game we played the game we said nah and then you were like what so that's not shackle what are you talking about? The game is Shackle or not.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Forget it. You guys are going to love this next segment. Just give me a second. Well, that has been Shackle or not. That's so low energy. Right? right it's been kind of a rough patch i'm gonna edit this up but just so you guys know i've been kind of depressed we could check your phone during it all right uh welcome to a bunch of boys or smokers voice um oh my god man not everything has to be this or something that rhymes with it like there are other things we
Starting point is 00:34:08 can do but yeah smoker's voice or a what a bunch of voice a bunch of boys yeah so um i'm interested in half of this i'd like to know more i'm gonna basically play some sound clips and you tell me whether it's you tell me whether it's a bunch of boys or someone with smoker's voice okay you guys ready this is for cash yeah how much $10 for every right answer $1000 owed to me for every wrong answer here we go
Starting point is 00:34:38 no one's gonna guess can we answer now yes No one's going to guess. Can we answer now? Yes. Bunch of boys. Correct. I was going to say it too. $10 to Marika.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Here we go. How do you guys think? Yeah, I'll check in after. Number two. Down the middle of the game. I'm playing from Paris for about... Smoker's Voice. $22. Correct, but for bonus points, this is for another
Starting point is 00:35:05 $1,500. Who was it? Sorry, this is for $1,500 on top of my $10. Let's hear it again. So I have $1,510. That was a fascinating flight. What do you do for 22 hours on a flight? Do you have ways of entertaining yourself?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Well, I show movies that are not a big success anywhere else i have no idea yeah it's tom wait tom waits tom waits all right great well that's just i don't get 1500 but i don't owe you that cash it's oh no that was i should have mentioned that was double or nothing so now you owe me a thousand dollars no, I should have mentioned that was double or nothing, so now you owe me $1,000. No. What do you mean double or nothing?
Starting point is 00:35:49 You can't say I should have mentioned. Forget it. Here we go. Next sound. It's a bunch of boys. Keep going. What'd you say, Marika? Stop playing the clip.
Starting point is 00:36:03 She guessed. Correct. That's $10 to Marika Brownlee, the clip. She guessed. Correct. That's $10 to Marika Brownlee. $1,000 extra. You can double down, double or nothing. You want to double or nothing to tell me what was happening in that clip? They were playing like t-ball baseball. Correct.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Shit. All right. Now somebody needs to owe me money because I don't have that. I technically do owe you $1,000. Here we go. According to the rules that you fucking made up. I'd be very happy to talk about Carol Burnett. I think she's one of the greatest gals that I've
Starting point is 00:36:30 ever met. And as I understand, you're a little bit aware of some of the things. This is for a profile of Carol Burnett that they're doing on the morning news and they know about you and Carol. It's Smoker's voice. Correct! That's $10 for me. I don't know when we're supposed to guess
Starting point is 00:36:45 anytime it's open season it's like april with the vaccine got it um amir get off your phone because like the game only works with three participants it's like a three-player game it's super obvious when you're on your phone i guess you don't even care cube yeah wow even worse i'm trying to like not limit my screen time Marika what do you want to double down for who that was in the interview not who they were talking about I don't want to double down copy that that's all you had to do Jake
Starting point is 00:37:12 I didn't know I had anything to lose oh I can see this being some kind of trick fucking question because it's a bunch of boys playing basketball but it's the announcer is a smoker it's a bunch of boys playing basketball, but the announcer is a smoker. It is a bunch of boys playing basketball. That's exactly right. That's actually doubling down immediately, Jake, but because you didn't double down, you don't get the $1,000.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Because what you should have done is that's a bunch of boys, and then I said, do you want to double down? All right, cool. So I owe you $980, it sounds like. Yes. The next one's a smoker's voice. I heard a little clip of it come through a little bit. So I just want to get that in right now.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I would caution you not only to the wind but also like So you do caution people before they lose money because it seemed like that didn't happen when it was my turn.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Oh no, Amir's going to lose money on this for sure. No man, I was banging seven gram rocks and finishing them because that's how I roll. I have one speed. I have one gear.
Starting point is 00:38:01 That's Charlie Sheen. It's a smoker's voice. I just have a different constitution. I have a different brain. I have a different brain. I have a different heart. I have a different, you know, I get tiger blood. What'd you guys guess? I was like so focused on him talking about how he was different. Amir said
Starting point is 00:38:13 smoker's voice, but I'm going to go ahead and say okay, never mind. Forget it. Amir, do you want to double down for $1,000? Yeah, like I said, I already said it was Charlie Sheen. Double down to $1,000. Oh, if you already said it, then it's not doubling down. So anyway. If you already said it, then it's not doubling down. So anyway. If you already said it, is he disqualified?
Starting point is 00:38:29 And now he owes you a thousand? Okay, forget it. Yeah, that's a commercial. You should pay for YouTube. Damn! Daniel, back at it again with the white vans. Stanky man. Damn! Daniel.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Boys. A bunch of boys. Jake can have that, though. It's a bunch of boys. Damn, Daniel. I've said a bunch of boys. Jake can have that love. It's a bunch of boys. I've said a bunch of boys so many times. Correct. Do you want to explain what was happening, Jake? It sounds like they were on Ellen. I'm the fucking one answering.
Starting point is 00:38:57 It's my opportunity to double down. Sorry. Double or nothing. It was when they brought him on Ellen. That's exactly right. That's fucking insane. Can I double that? I wanted toir not only gets $1,000, but he gets Jig's 10. That's fucking insane. And can I double that? Last one, last one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:07 You want to double down? I wanted to double down on the $1,000. So $2,000 for Ellen. You don't get to do this. $2,000 to the man in white. Here we go. Last one. I stood up for you. Jake, there's something puzzling here.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Huh? You're on a hit TV show. It's fifth year. Yeah. Jurassic Park was an incredibly, largest grossing movie. Why are you still fooling with independence that's funny it's Smoker's Voice
Starting point is 00:39:33 correct do you want to double down yeah Jake Johnson was the laugh at the end this is triple or nothing you get all the money pulled together if you get this right what was the context do you want a triple or nothing his career you get this right, what was the context? Do you want a triple or nothing? His career?
Starting point is 00:39:49 Like, what do you mean, what was the context? He was on Larry King for the triple. That's not. That's exactly right. No, that's not what is the context. That's not what that means. I knew it was Larry King. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Amir is the HeadGum Podcast's biggest winner of all time. I got Jake Johnson's voice from a laugh. That's $1,000 that Jake won mid-beginning. That's $1,000 that Amir got from doubling down. That's $1,000 that Marika got from doubling down. And the triple or nothing pool of it all, which is the entire $4,000 times three, to Amir. That's $12,000 coming out of the company's budget.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I think that was the angriest I've ever seen Marika get. I'm curious. Also, why aren't we recording the Zooms anymore? I always forget. That would have been a really good moment. That would have been
Starting point is 00:40:44 a really good moment. That was incredibly honest of you jeff oh my god i got it the paypal 6500 dollars i guess jeff has access to it i'll see it i'll see it all you can eat all you can drink brunch don't do that down um sorry i thought jake downtown sorry it was a smile but I'm trying to Lucas gauge whether it was out of like discomfort or whether it was like a laugh that he stifled for audio and he has not confirmed either I'm i have to do some mental gymnastics here
Starting point is 00:41:31 and make it positive to me is that it i kind of stopped talking um we should go if that's it been one of the strangest vibes of an of a record that we've ever done I don't know who do you think is responsible for that if you did like a pie chart of who's responsible for the weird vibes how big is each of our slices
Starting point is 00:41:56 I don't want to like place the total blame on one person but Amir from the point where you refused kind of really sliding Jake in a way to forget Jill's name. I'm so sorry to say her name Jake.
Starting point is 00:42:11 There was like a weirdness 30 minutes ago. Exactly. That's why it's like the majority of the fucking episode. If you feel like he ruined the episode why did you give him $12,000? Because he won the game. Fair is fair. He didn't know it wasn't fair. Alright, you know what? I'm not going to fucking sit here
Starting point is 00:42:28 and be berated by you guys, of all people. Mariko, what do you have to show for anything? Amir, you lost a Webby. You lost two Webbys, actually. And so did Jake. Lost a Webby. You hosted the Webbys. That's sort of nothing. Lost a fucking Webby? You see this? This is why you record the Zoom.
Starting point is 00:42:45 This is why you record the Zoom. This is why you record the Zoom. Holy shit. For the first time on this show, this is actually historic, Marika. For the first time on this show, I'm in the wrong. No way. 2010.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Jake has a Webby. People's Voice Award winner. This is insane. Marika, I'm so sorry. You know what the People's Voice Award means? That means that the judges at the Webby's didn't think we were good enough, but we had fans that trolled the fucking awards. And we won a Webby.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I did this writing fellowship at Funny or Die and they had a bunch of Webby's and I did this was back when the water bottle flip was really popular. So somewhere on my Instagram, there's a video of me doing the water bottle flip directly into an Emmy. Into an Emmy? You win a Webby. there's a video of me doing the water bottle flip directly into an emmy into an emmy whatever right same thing whatever right
Starting point is 00:43:33 all right i don't know who i am this whole show has been me searching for a fucking identity and i thought i was kind of figuring it out especially last week's episode today's episode really and then you know recording this it's like i don't know what the direction of the show is i don't know what my life's direction is i feel the same i think we all feel the same way so i don't think you have to worry about that being just a you thing kind of interesting that year i've always hated the webbies I think they're a garbage award I think it's all it's all a fucking pyramid scheme
Starting point is 00:44:10 it's a Ponzi scheme that's what it is well yeah the entry fees alone are kind of big yeah you had to search for that word the first word you learn as a two year old you had to sort for that word. The first word you learn as a two-year-old, you had to sort of stop, pause, and think about it,
Starting point is 00:44:29 and then land on big. Yeah. The prices are sky big. You said big. Live with big. That's fine. Plugs. Marika, Jake, Amir, in that order,
Starting point is 00:44:47 let's hear what you're working on. Point the people to projects, collabs, etc. The floor is yours. Follow me on Twitter and Instagram, at Marika Elon. I think there are a few shows that have live shows coming up that would also be fun to watch. Doughboys is doing their
Starting point is 00:45:07 finale of the Tournament of Champions live, which is going to be a big deal at the end of March. People should watch that. And listen to the new shows that are on the network.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Blumenfeld? You said the order was actually going to be Marika, then me, then. Blumenfeld. You said the order was actually going to be Marika, then me, then a Blumenfeld. Yeah, so you already messed up. Also, I never got to answer where I'd like to travel to
Starting point is 00:45:33 because you cut me off of my own segment, so I just want to say that now. I really want to go to Disney World, personally. I'm really excited about that. Are you going to do Epcot? Epcot Center?
Starting point is 00:45:44 Are you going to run the gamut? I'd like to do the full thing. There's a restaurant in the Animal Kingdom. Yeah. That hotel has a really good restaurant. Great. Thank you. I'll take that recommendation.
Starting point is 00:46:00 That's me being earnest. Yeah, I know. I can tell. You can tell because you get so small his shoulders come to his ears there's a good restaurant near epcot oh fuck um jake yeah listen listen to the new head gum shows listen to the old head gum shows you know um i'll just i'm gonna shout shout out one of my favorite shows is, it's, oh, God damn it. I can't think of the name of it.
Starting point is 00:46:33 This is really insane. A funny feeling. I could think of the host. But yeah, a funny feeling. Betsy Sedaro, Marcy Giroux. Great podcast. Ghost Stories. Ghost Stories.
Starting point is 00:46:44 It's been on the network for a very long time. And if you're looking for a new podcast to binge, go back. Binge it. Let me just say, for my one plug, Jeff's a casual man. What does that mean? I was just saying, for my one plug, Jeff's a casual. What is that? Look it up, man.
Starting point is 00:47:08 You're a fucking casual, dude. That's all. That's all I got to say. Also, listen to If I Were You. It's my podcast. Follow me on Twitter. That's all I got to say, dude. It's like Jeff.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Jeffrey James is a casual. I'm smoking a pipe, but you're reacting to it. Like, you've changed, man. A casual is typically kicking back and rocking a casual beer with a friend. Yeah. Okay, so what's the problem? But you are one. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I don't know. I just don't get it, I guess. I'm just saying that you're a casual, dude. Also, my basketball podcast, bro. It's called Buckets. How are the plugs the messiest section of this podcast? The clothes. This is the one we do every week.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Is that it? You just want to say that I drink beer slowly? I swear, dude. Just a casual dude. It's like a Jeremy Strong impression almost. I wonder if Nicholas Braun would have the braun to do a head gum show thank you so much for having me this week i think i'm gonna take a month or two off um going forward but this has been awesome i'll be back just off of work entirely yeah i'm gonna do a sabbatical
Starting point is 00:48:19 situation cool was it i just want to like narrow it down was the episode this happened yeah everything that happened right before me saying you were a casual has been the worst 53 minutes of my life it seemed like it was a compliment it was changed your tone i loved that about jeff like he's so comfortable in his own skin he's a fucking casual what you want about this guy but he's a casual uh you can follow me on twitter at jeffboyrd i'll just plug that one because uh zunkle's instagram is actually doing pretty fucking well 12 000 followers on the brink of not only verification so you don't need it i don't need it on my instagram i need it on my twitter also guess who fucking followed me the other fucking day? Who?
Starting point is 00:49:10 If you have to look, it's not that exciting, right? He unfollowed, huh? Did he unfollow? Was it a mistake? He not only unfollowed, but there seems to be a mass exodus. I've lost 1,200 followers since we started recording. Yeah, so it sounds like Zunkle needs some more. It was the owner of the Bowery. It was the owner of the fucking Bowery, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:29 So he puts events on and, you know. Yeah, no one cares. Somersault played there. I think Dawes might have done a stint. They actually did a residency at the Wiltern, if I'm not mistaken. But just to be clear, he doesn't follow you anymore, right? And it sounds like it was a mistake.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And the worst part, he might not ever have followed me all right cool you sort of misunderstood i guess zunkle was a little confused about that i guess zunkle might have gotten a little too drunkle last night i had a i had a fucking wine i had a spritzer yeah you're a casual dude oh my god oh my god you have heartburn or. I have a chest ache, yeah. Let's hope he's having a heart attack. We'll see you guys again next week. Thanks so much for listening to this episode of the HeadGum Podcast. Maybe even some guests on soon.
Starting point is 00:50:17 During a mere sabbatical. Nice. Catch you on the flip. Diesel. Diesel. Diesel. Catch you on the flip later. Sacks. diesel diesel worst catch up with him later sex
Starting point is 00:50:27 that was a Hiddem Original.

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