The Headgum Podcast - 96: Nobody Does it Sweater (w/ Sally Darr Griffin!)

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

Comedian Sally Darr Griffin (TikTok) joins Amir, Johnny, and Geoff for the first in-studio episode in LA and to discuss Fred Durst, TikTok sounds, and knitwear! Newcomers with Lauren Lapkus & Nicole Byer is back with a brand new season all about the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Check it out! Huge news! XOXO, Gossip Kings is now a video podcast. SUBSCRIBE to their channel to watch Carl Tart & Lamar Woods (and friends) delve into the Gossip Girl catalog. BUY THE HEADGUM PODCAST MERCH! Advertise on The Headgum Podcast via Gumball.fm Rate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on Apple Podcasts. Rate The Headgum Podcast 5-stars on Spotify. Join the Headgum Discord.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Original. Previously on the HeadGum Podcast. What is it like to, you know, interact with fans, Jeff? You have fans, right? No. Amir has fans and then sometimes they can't get to him, so they DM me. I get DMs sometimes too now. It's kind of interesting. It's like a...

Danny has fans. Kevin Bacon. Amir's the new Kevin Bacon, I feel like. Yeah. I get thats sometimes too now. It's kind of interesting. It's like a... Danny has fans. Kevin Bacon. Amir's the new Kevin Bacon, I feel like. Yeah. I get that a lot. They used to call you Amir Bacon. No, they didn't. Just so you know on this show, it's okay to break.

It's okay to like laugh. Yeah. He clearly didn't think that was funny. Why would it be funny to... They used to call you Amir Bacon is the joke. You think he was stifling laughter for? On a Friday afternoon, sun's out. Before a holiday weekend. Yeah. Summer Friday, 4.15pm.

First in-studio LA episode ever. Wow. Yeah. Wow. This is ever. Wow. Yeah. Wow. This is big. Wow. I mean, I'm almost willing to risk the losing the ad revenue. Should we get it started? Yeah.

Does that mean you're going to play a song? Yeah. Okay. Because usually, over Zoom, you can sort of cut out the unnecessary searching. So it's cool to see it live like live like this you also know the soundboard inside and out so i don't know why i added a couple new ones and they're all colored kind of incoherently so uh everybody everybody let's get it right so no ad revenue now.

YouTube's going to flag that. Yeah. We should introduce our guest, special guest Sally Dar Griffin from TikTok. You know her from the internet. You know her from offline, if your friends are watching this. Yeah, I'll send that to them.

Yeah. I mean, what a ride it's been. I was in New York for four months. I'm back in Los Angeles. We're in studio. It feels good. Yeah, it feels great. We have a lot to's been. I was in New York for four months. I'm back in Los Angeles. We're in studio. It feels good. Yeah, it feels great. We have a lot to get to.

Yeah, we do. But before that, do you want to plug your stuff up top? Sure. My name is Sally R. Griffin. Is Dar Griffin your last name or is Dar your middle name? Yeah, it's an interesting one. So it's a double name. I'm from Tennessee.

So it's a big southern thing. Knoxville? No, Chattanooga. Chattanooga. Yeah. I literally met like three people from Chattanooga in Colorado last weekend. Oh, interesting. Everybody's cool from there. Do they all have three names?

Yeah, they're both like outdoorsy and like makes sense that they would be there. No, I mean a few people do, but not everyone. And so you're, well, somebody asks you your name and you say Sally Dar. It's like Mary Catherine or like. I see. The Dar just throws people because like who's ever heard of that? Right. Dar is a unique one.

Also, do you have a middle name or is it just two first names and a last? It's, if I filled out an application, it would be first name Sally, middle name Dar, last name Griffin. So Dar technically is my middle name, but I go by both. I got it. Okay. I'm caught up. Yeah.

Where'd you go to college? I went to Tulane in New Orleans. Tulane. Yeah. NOL Orleans. Tulane. Yeah. NOLA. Rutgers. It really doesn't matter. Yeah.

We have to get to know each other on air. Otherwise, you know, there's no intimacy. We don't feel comfortable with ourselves. But you know what? Up, go up, aside. Let's just get into some waxing here and it'll come up naturally. Nothing is coming up naturally so far. Well, everything's coming up, side. Let's just get into some waxing here and it'll come up naturally. Nothing is coming up naturally so far.

Well, everything's coming up Jeff. Yeah. Naturally is his middle name, a.k.a. his second name. So it's Jeff Naturally James. Yeah. Is it actually?

No. Oh. I don't know. I mean, my name's strange, so. Anything is possible. Yeah, anything. Let's talk about your rise to stardom.

Was it post-COVID lockdown? So TikTok was my main thing that got me going, for those who don't know. I was posting on TikTok a little bit before the pandemic, but March 2020 and through the summer is like when I really blew up on TikTok. Wow. So would you say the pandemic is the best thing that's ever happened to you personally? Yeah. I'm not trying to be insensitive.

Obviously, it's horrible. But I was talking about. It was the year of DAR. Really? I was talking about it with like my friends. They were like, yeah, like the pandemic, like really, like I hate to say it, but like it was kind of good. Like we met all of our friends, whatever. And I was like, no, it's actually, it's the best thing that ever happened to me in like a very horrible way.

But yeah, it was. You became a Hollywood dar. Yeah. Darling. Yeah. Actually I joined TikTok during the pandemic as well. Didn't quite go viral

slash famous slash live in a hype house for it but I do have a hundred thousand followers on there so I would say that yes it too

changed the trajectory of my self-esteem slash career. But I'm curious. Probably not career. Nothing's changing your career. Yeah. Like Gumball just got a bunch of funding, but that's not because of you. No, that's because of Marty.

Yeah, business-wise. Andrew Pyle. Right. Jake did a lot. So you had TikTok before the pandemic, but it kind of blew up during the pandemic. Yeah, like I was posting, but not consistently. And I didn't really know what I was doing. And then when I was, so I moved home to Tennessee

for like X amount of months. So I was living with my parents, didn't have anything to do. And so I was just like posting every day. Which is what you're supposed to do. Right, which is the hardest thing to do, but it worked. And yeah, here I am.

And did you move out to LA because of TikTok? No, I originally moved out here August 2019 for film school and then was here until March 2020 moved home moved back

August 2020 so I don't really count that first part because I like wasn't didn't really do anything in LA didn't move the needle yeah a lot of people

can't hack it in Hollyweird during their first summer I remember considered leaving as well but you grew up in Encino. Right.

I guess what I was going to ask you or getting to ask you was, do you remember your first viral clip on TikTok? And then how big are we talking? Million? 10 million? Here's the thing. It's like I have,

I've made a lot of friends through TikTok and a lot of them are like, oh, this one video is what like propelled me. For me, it wasn't a certain video. It was just like a lot of them are like, oh, this one video is what like propelled me. For me, it wasn't a certain video. It was just like a series of videos. I used to make all of these videos sitting in my bathtub

and it was just those back to back to back and they all kind of had like a through line. Yeah. And all of the, none of those were like. Was that you on purpose, Jeff?

Or did you just put your phone on? Sorry, my sister's texting me about whether or not she wants to move to Washington, D.C. Yeah. No. Los Angeles.

That's what she's saying. Yeah. No. Los Angeles. Yeah. No. Yeah. But yeah it wasn't one video that did it like obviously there were some that were better than others

but it was really just like the whole like bathtub series that I was known for and like some of them had a hundred thousand views some of them had like a million

or whatever but it was just that whole time. But it was comedy. Yeah. It wasn't like dancing singing lip dubbing.

No. I no shade to that. Love it. Get't like dancing, singing, lip dubbing. No. No shade to that. Love it. Get your bag. But I cannot dance for my life. You have a lot of dancing ones in your drafts that you showed me. I can't build up the gumption to pull the trigger and post these things. I think that one would go viral.

Really? Yeah, I do. Yeah, because I got one to WAP where I'm sort of humping the ground. Yeah, because I got one to WAP where I'm sort of humping the ground. I have a few to Ratchet, Bougie, Catchy, and I'm sort of humping the ground. Right. We're just humping the ground in all of these. Yeah.

The problem is it's to completion, and I feel like TikTok would like definitely. Of course, because that's pornography. Flag it. Obviously. Yes, that's what I was going to say, obviously. Right. So don't ever pull the trigger. Don't have the gumption. Don't ever post it.

Major Key Alert. Self-censor. Right? There's no way that has to be. The audio of your drops are so loud in our ears. Well, I want them to not normalize that so that they can feel what we feel, which is it being at a nine and then us talking at a three. That's that's going to be bad for audio.

That's exactly. But I want everyone else to experience what it feels like to sit across from you and hear your poison. I don't know if you haven't heard enough of the show to know one of the through lines, which is that I'm trying to get wise, which, you know, can manifest in various audio books on tape, can manifest in me having heart-to-hearts with my friends. Trying to get to know one another on a higher plane of consciousness. And so that also lends itself to talking about the news in an interesting way.

We sort of abandoned the TikTok thing. Because, like, she said that she started posting. But I didn't really get to understand how Sally made it out here and what she ended up doing on TikTok. It's not bad. You sort of inserted yourself and threw the conversation away and then made it about you becoming wise. It's a not wise thing to do is steamroll the show like that as the host. No, I was going to talk about the Amazon MGM merger. Right.

Who cares? Right. Who cares? It's so irrelevant. So TikTok first. Right. Yeah. And then what was kind of the next big thing right um yeah so i after the pan like i moved back august 2020 kept posting on tick tock and then uh january 2021 i met like moved in with some of my internet friends and kind of not hype house quite so right more so like creative collective yeah and that we made some videos.

It was more fun than it was productive, but met a lot of people through the internet, some of my best friends. And really since then, just been posting. I mean, I post everywhere. Like, I mean, I tweet, I make vlogs, I post on Instagram. But TikTok is what started it all. And now I'm full-time content creator, I suppose. That's awesome.

And it's mostly on TikTok that you, your source of. Yeah. If I didn't have TikTok, I wouldn't be full-time content creator, I suppose. That's awesome. And it's mostly on TikTok, your source of... Yeah. If I didn't have TikTok, I wouldn't be full-time. Wow. Right. Yeah. And you're repped by CAA. Mm-hmm.

I used to have a... I met Boulangerie Mackle, which is sort of a boutique agency. I used to have an agent as well, yeah. What's that? I used to have an agent as well, is all. You fired them. They dropped you. It was sort of a mutually agreed upon parting of ways slash distancing, ghosting in a way where they sort of take longer and longer to respond to your emails and texts until they don't respond at all. I think it's like a big flex to not have an agent or a manager.

I think it is. It's a big flex if you're successful. Yeah. But you haven't had an audition in three years, and you haven't staffed ever. So I'm doing the secret style where I'm like, let's put out there the shit that I want to flex to the world without necessarily the means of being able to flex it.

So buying a car that I cannot afford, I have that, and now it'll get whatever impoundedounded defaulted taken away from me. I don't have representation, which is kind of a cool move. Like you know how Bill Murray is like, I don't have an agent, just call me. But they don't do the calling me part. Right. For me. Yeah.

They're ruining your life, by the way. In a way. Yeah. I'm on Zillow right now. Your home just popped up pre-foreclosure yep yep that's all sort of tied into the same situation yeah uh let's talk dating in la for a second i feel like a big part of your brand what's some of my favorite talks that you've done talks uh is that the one where you pretend to have a boyfriend god are you talking about ted

cruz no the one where you're like say, it just completely sounds unnatural and you're like, baby, and then all your friends crack up. Right, yeah. I don't know why that became a thing. I think that there are

certain things that sell very well online. People love to know about dating and that's why you see these cringy relationship videos that do well and you're like,

why are these doing well? I don't get it, but it's because people like knowing that because that's the thing that I would never share that online, but the people that do, and you're like why are these doing well I don't get it but it's because people like knowing that because that's like the thing that like I would never share that online but the people that do

it's like oh I'm gonna eat that up because I kind of hate watch it so like I think I do that because I know that people kind of like that

but I would never tell the truth so I just like make up something that's interesting the comedy angle of it yeah so I pretended to like date Ted Cruz

and some people like genuinely thought that I was, like, the side piece. And I was like, no, it was a joke. Yeah. If they show your clip to enough people, like, you'll just get morons in the lot as well. So, like, here's 10 million people. Like, a thousand of them will think you dated Ted Cruz. Yeah, and that's fine.

Hey, if they're interacting with my content, I'll take it. You think Ted saw it? I don take it. You think Ted saw it? I don't know. Well, what's interesting is that his daughter joined TikTok, and then people started tagging me in one of her videos. And I was like, I feel like if anyone's seen it, it's probably her. But, like, I made those videos, like, a few months ago,

and then she joined, like, I don't know, maybe three months ago. Does she have two names, too? So I don't know. What did you say? Does she have two names, too? I don't think so. That's awesome. Yeah. It's awesome that she doesn't have two names too. So I don't know. What do you think? Does she have two names too? I don't think so. That's awesome. Yeah.

It's awesome that she doesn't have two names. Are you paying attention or no? I honestly saw a fly. Yeah. We kind of we wax dating on this show a lot

but I'm way too honest. Yeah. You are way too honest. Yeah. How's your love life? I don't have to talk about it. Please. I mean you still Avital I don't have to talk about it. Please. I mean, you still,

Avital still has that side piece, right, speaking of. Yeah, I'm in a thruple that's not even a thruple, technically. It's just like my partner is dating someone else that I'm not too fond of

right now. Right. He's a personal trainer. Yep. Six four. Six four. Jacked. Absolutely. Right. He's a personal trainer. Yep. Six four. Six four. Jacked. Absolutely jacked.

He is. My ribs like hurt from trying to surf three weeks ago, but his are fine. Right. And he surfs all the time. I think it's a,

when you work out enough, nothing necessarily penetrates the muscles and gets to the bone bruising that I deal with on a near constant basis. Like even laying down hurts at this point. When was the last time you saw your girlfriend

or your partner? Weeks ago, yeah. Todd, Todd's taken her all around the world. But I see them on Instagram stories, Instagram live. Still the stories or? I have a Finsta because she. Yeah,sta because she put the kibosh on. What's my name on there?

Amir, I think it is. It's just Adam here. That's also kind of a cool flex. So my Instagram name is just my first name. It is. That's cool. You got on like very early. When was Instagram?

Was it like 2011? Yeah. 2010, I think. Yeah, so you just got in there. Despite being young and hip, I'm still like old enough that I did the early adoption for Instagram. Yeah, but you're not the first thing. What's that? You said despite being young and hip.

You're old and your hip hurts. It's time for Bond of the Week. Couldn't hear you because it was too loud. It's time for Bond of the Week, Couldn't hear you because it was too loud. It's time for Bond of the Week, I said. It'll be mixed down. So Daniel Craig is out as the new Bond, as the old Bond. And we don't know who the new Bond is. So every week on this show, we cast our choice for the next 007, the next James.

And this week, my pick is Melissa Urban. Nice. She created Whole30. Who cares? Yeah. You don't know Whole30? No, I don't. You don't know Whole30?

No. Also, who cares? It's this like 30-day diet and you like don't have anything processed. No sugar. It's a nutritionist. It's not a good bond. Is that the one where people like

eat Brussels sprouts for breakfast? Isn't that the one? It's like you can't have any. The only sauce you can have is amino acids and mustard. sauce you can have is amino acids and mustard. But you can have ghee. Do you know about ghee? Ghee? Clarified

butter. Yeah, you know about ghee. And let me clarify that this butter sucks. And your nutritionist pick to be the bond of the week, it's never gonna fly. There's no way she can pull off the action sequences. She's already at the top of the fitness industry. Now she has to branch out. It's about having multiple streams of income. Have you ever had ghee?

No, I haven't. Really? Stop. You must not know about ghee. You must not know about ghee. Take some cream and churn that bish. Matter of fact,

you might even clarify it. Baby, you must not know about ghee. You must not know about ghee you must not know about ghee you can eat it even on hole 30 so don't you ever for a second get to thinking butter's healthier that was good you don't have to lie it was pretty bad i see so bond of the week was a way into talking about the whole 30 creator which was a way into gee which you wrote because you ran out of words that rhymed with me for that specific beyonce song is the walk we took together. You can say however long this diatribe is going to be,

I'm going to edit it out. Yeah. I'm done. We should probably take a break. Probably. No, the energy soured after that. Yeah. Yes.

Right. We agree. Actually, we a gee. Oh, that's good. That was actually way better than... It was as good. It was a little less bad. Whatever.

Sucks. We'll be right back. All right, we're going to get into some segments. Welcome back. How familiar are you guys with Limp Bizkit? Welcome back. How familiar are you guys with Limp Bizkit? I'm aware of them, yeah. Yeah, I know the name.

That's about it. Well, this is a segment I like to call... It's gonna keep going on. It's a long one. It's long, yeah. It's not even halfway over, I don't think. You should trim it down. There's no way

you can't control the volume. I can't hear you. Yeah. It's starting to wrap up. It's starting to wrap up. I like to call this segment Durst Traps. Now you can talk because, again, it was too loud even during the applause. Let's hear it.

It goes on too long. Yes. Yes. We agree. I know. We've talked to you about this so many times. To edit it, I'd have to download it oh we meant the entire show I wasn't talking about

that specific thing yeah I meant the run of the podcast so you want it to be like a daily show like the daily show I want it to be over have run its course

and now we're doing something else this is Durst Traps you guys are familiar with Thirst Traps yeah where you post a photo for those who don't know of you when you look kind of hot This is Durst Traps. You guys are familiar with Thirst Traps? Yeah. Where you post a photo, for those who don't know of you, when you look kind of hot. Fred Durst, to me, to mine eyes, is not that unattractive of a man.

In the mid-90s, you guys were born in the 90s, but I was sort of coming of age during this time. Yeah. And as a teenager, he was considered very cool and, yes, indeed, quite hot. Really? Yeah. Okay. Well, I've pulled up a couple photos of Fred Durst, and I thought we could kind of come to a consensus vote whether or not it's a thirst trap or not.

Okay. Whether it's hot enough to call it a Durst trap. Okay. All right. Here we go. This is cool. We're using the live medium. Yeah.

We have a lot of tech that we can play with now. That's cool. We're using the live medium. We have a lot of tech that we can play with now. That's cool. Also, usually I have the defense mechanism of being on Zoom where the ambient awkwardness doesn't affect me, but now I feel genuinely bad as a person. Yeah, that's interesting. That's a fun little new dynamic slash wrinkle about the show. We also have Narragansett beer if anybody wants a can.

Sorry, did you sell that as branded content? You've mentioned a beer right now. That's not like an ad that Headgram sold. It's a brand for Narragansett, so they sent me beer. Or I buy it and they re-embeer me.

Here we go. This is the first one. What do we think? Is this a Durst trap? I feel like it is. Look at his smize. Lights in his eyes. And he has big hands and a cool tattoo. Right.

He only has big hands, though, because it's like the whatever. A fisheye lens. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. No, if anything, he probably has small hands if he has to use that lens. Right, exactly. Oh, wow. Also, I failed to mention, we all have to come to an agreement.

I see. It's not. I think it's not. We're split down the middle. Wow. How do we do a tiebreaker of who determines the time? Do you genuinely think this is a sexy photo? Of Fred Durst? Yes.

In a vacuum, though. Not for Durst. If you're ranking it from worst to Durst, this is closer to the latter for sure. I think it gets worst for Durst going for worst. We could have Casey, our in-house producer, sort of be the tiebreaker. Yeah, Casey. What do you think hot or not? Oh All right number two still in that Anaheim Angels hat wearing what appears to be motocross gloves And an Under Armour under a baggy t-shirt.

Also, he's snarling. Does he have a shooting sleeve on? Yeah, that's just one shooting sleeve. He kind of looks like Mark Wahlberg meets Drake. Yeah. There's not enough skin. He's on a stage where his,

like, that should be his happy place, but he looks angry. Yeah. He's looking cool slash hard of it. I'm gonna go no. No. He looks like someone

I'd meet at a local bar in my hometown. Yeah. Very good. Didn't. Yeah. What's that? Didn't get to vote

for that round. Yeah but it's already consensus but yeah if you want to throw in your God it's tough to say. You don't have to be contrarian either. Let's do it fast. Be contrarian. So we got no no no then it comes tough to say you don't have to be contrarian either just fast

so we got no no no then it comes down to me right no it does not it already has come I'll say yes because the beard

is full and good the beard is unkempt and ungroomed also I'm a huge Anaheim Angels why of Anaheim fan yeah

I think it's something about Tim Salmon their old star player that gets me intrigued slash turned on when I see this picture of Fred Durst. Next one. So you're just imbuing the player onto him. And he's not the player, by the way. I just wanted to give a quick shout out because I don't know if we've referenced Tim Salmon on any of these. We have not.

We haven't and probably never will. What about Tim Salmon Rushdie? That's really good. Let's see the next picture. Obviously not. We haven't and probably never will. What about Tim Salmon Rushdie? That's really good. Let's see the next picture. Obviously not. Who is that? Is there no, are there no shirtless ones? Is that Tony Clifton?

Yeah, this is not Fred Durst. No, it is Fred Durst. I think it's, it might be him dressed up as Robert Durst. Oh. Oh. Who's that? He's a serial murderer. Are they related?

I think they are vaguely related. Are they? That's great. I love a serial murderer. Are they related? I think they are vaguely related. Are they? That's great. I love to hear that. My manager reps Fred Durst, so maybe we should have got him to call in.

Yeah, I used to have a manager. This is absolutely... Actually, you know what? I might say yes to this one because there's that dirtbag chic thing that some guys do for Halloween and I'm like,

that's pretty good. The most thirst trap out of all of these is the first one. Now I'm regretting my decision. See, this is what I told you guys. I didn't know they were gonna get progressively worse

they all are in a vacuum you can't do it relative to the other ones here we go this one's no he's got a small hand now he's a Yankees fan now he's got a small hand

a lot of jokes on us I guess it also doesn't look like he knows how to ride the board yeah he definitely doesn't I don't think he he's more of a musician than a producer obviously right ideally you're both like Johnny like he knows how to ride the board. Yeah, no, he definitely doesn't. I don't think he... He's more of a musician

than a producer, obviously. Right. Ideally, you're both like Johnny. Okay. No? I don't think so. None of these are doing it for me. I mean, I think in his eyes,

this is a derse trap. Right. I think all of these. But to the public sphere, no. But again, his eyes are nice and blue in this photo. And his goatee or soul patch situation. It goes down and becomes a throaty.

Interesting. And then it becomes a blue tee that he's wearing. Sort of becomes a hair shirt. I'll give this one a yay as well. A way. Yes, way. Yahweh. Actually.

Okay, now he's not activating. Now we're talking a little bit, I think. This is the new Durst, and he's thick. He loves gloves. I didn't know. He's absolutely thick. Do you guys know what that jersey is? No.

Do you guys recognize the jersey? He's pulling off the bucket hat. I think he... You can see in his eyes that he's less angry. This is Durst in therapy. Yeah, he's currently holding up a mic to his better health therapist. I'm sorry, I can't hear you.

I think your Zoom is frozen. That's a Bo Jackson jersey. So I guess he's from California. He's constantly repping California sports. It's a cool sleeve. It's a fun hat. And again, his beard is full and his eyes are blue. I'm going to give it to Durst.

Let's give him one fucking thirst trap. I'll give him that one too. Yeah. Alright. I'm saying no to all of them unfortunately. I think this one's a quick no. He's angry. He's a bad boy. You know what I think my issue is before I move further? Is that I think that

thirst trap obviously is like a... Or you can go to the next one. Thirst trap is like a more modern term but thirst trap implies that it's like an intentional thing. So either you're taking them or you're giving your phone

being like, no, take a hot photo of me. And some of these, he doesn't even know they're being taken. Right. So it doesn't feel intentional. I think this one knows

he's being taken. And I do think he's actually hot in this one as well. You said yes to every single one. No, I sort of wasn't too fond of the Robert Durst one. The one where he looked like Andy Kaufman's alter ego, Tony

Clifton. He was in some sort of weird suit. This one I think is an attractive photo of a man. I think his face looks good. I like that he's in a void. We don't really know where he is. Lollapalooza 2003. This was shot in a TRL studio somewhere. So,

yay or nay? I'm sorry, guys. I'm saying no. I'll say no to this one. I'm going to have to say yes. Oh, so we got another tie. All right, I'll just say yes then so we can move on.

Well, what about Casey? We'd like to have the tiebreaker. No, because I think it's rude. That's what flipped it for me because his face looks good, but he looks like I don't want to hang out with that guy. But I like the flipping of the bird where the second and fourth finger are like right angles like that.

Because some people go like that, and that's too, now that we have a video we can show, this is just the middle bird. Yeah. And my fingers are sort of, you see how they look like a bowling pin a little bit? They're like thin at the middle and then wide in the base or something like that. You worked a union job for like a couple months to get fit middle and then wide in the base or something like that. You worked a union job for like a couple months to get fit and then you just kept

getting your hands stuck in. I just got my hands thinned. Backfired. But that's a good looking bird. Oh, that's an attractive guy. This is what I was excited to get to. This is his zaddy phase.

Frankly, I'm four months away from being this man. I'm almost entirely gray. I can't quite pull off the Fu Manchu, but I'm ready for it. See this man I'm almost entirely gray I can't quite pull off the Fu Manchu but I'm ready for it yeah see this one makes sense

because it's like obviously intentional like he is he thinks this is a thirst trap is it doing anything for me no but like I think that it is a thirst trap

wow because he's trying to make it a thirst trap so I'm gonna say yes we finally got a yes out of Sally I know I'm so sorry

I'm gonna have to agree it is a thirst trap it out of Sally. I'm going to have to agree. It is a thirst trap. It's a durst trap. You durst not know about traps. You durst not know about ghee. Oh my god. Scary. Awful. And then our last one. Here we go. This is classic durst.

This is most terrible. I can't even power through yeah he's definitely related to Robert based on this photo the last thing his victims saw

feels like he's putting a hex on me yeah for real so no alright I think we did yeah we need not say up go Boppa Silent We need not say.

Well, that was Durst Traps. That was good. That was good. Johnny has prepared an amazing segment. Wow. That I have been excited for since he touched down at Burbank. Smart move. Flew into Burbank, so I picked him up on Monday.

Johnny, do you need some time? Do we need to vamp? Do we need to wax? I think that I'm good. All right. So I also brought a laptop just like Jeff. A smaller one, though. Yeah, because I'm pretty much his mini.

His mini. So, wait, let me give you a little intro. This is not a little intro. What's that? I've heard this audio before. It's really long. Right. It goes on too long.

But again. It's getting old. Yeah. The schtick is getting old. Yeah. Too long sounds. Too loud sounds. It's like we're hemorrhaging listeners and advertisers. I know.

I'll edit this all out so people don't know how bad things are. Okay. By the way, the vibe right now is like a four-year-old and a six-year-old want to put on a play for their friends. Where should we stand? All right, do it. Ready? Just like we rehearsed.

Come on. Give me the cord. Yeah, well, this is the time for laughs. I get it. I get it. I'm all for a laugh, but let's fucking focus on it. And probably this is not the time for a business deal. Oh.

You're a TikTok star. At Sally Dargriffin, correct? We can agree on that. Everybody? And I'm somewhat of a star as well on TikTok. Yeah, but not as big a star as her. Unfortunately, I'm sorry. Half a million.

I'll throw you a follow. You have half a million fans. That's correct. Yeah. Yeah, I'm right behind you. 63. 63. Thousand or?

No, just like 63. Oh, it was? No, just like 63. Oh, it was 62 yesterday, but like 63 today. Your dad finally followed you. Yeah, followed me back. I kept texting him. I'd like to think of myself as a valuable business associate in the realm of social media. My team at my personal company, Pretty Whack Industries, we want to make your fan count even larger. You know what's bigger than 500, half a million?

Tell me. A million. Okay, yeah. It's going to get even bigger than that. Great. Like 650,000. Yeah, that sounds like more. I audited the platform on my own time.

I'm not much of an avid user of TikTok, but to prepare for this segment, I really dived deep into it. And I realized that audio is what makes a tick talk. Explosion? Explosion? I'll come up with something.

Jesus Christ. I come to you, Miss Griffin, with an opportunity that will change your digital footprint. Does that sound like something that you're interested in? Of course. Okay, great. Instant no. Really? Yeah.

Falling in the computer? We could do sweet greens for lunch instead. I've created a few different audios, and these are completely original compositions that no one else has heard before up until this point. And I'm giving you, Sally Dar Peter Griffin, the chance to use the next viral audio in your TikTok. And you're given

actual full permission to use this in your future videos and whatever revenue streams that you may have. So let's get right into it. I have lyric cards so viewers can follow along. Jeffrey, can you play Toodle Time? So this one's called Toodle Time. Oh my God.

Toodle Time. Is this? Yeah, Toodle Time. Toodle Time. Yes. Toodle Time. Toodle Time. that's it well that's one that's one that's great so what do you imagine

she's gonna use that audio for what could TikTok even be okay hang on could you define a toodle for me yeah yeah yeah so that's you got kind of, by the way.

That was a really natural, obvious, nice question to ask. So, yeah, I'm sure everybody, even at home, is asking, what is toodle time? But that's the beauty of it. You are getting in on the ground floor to imbue whatever kind of definition that you want Toodle Time to be. It could be positive. It could be negative. Not only are you starting a social media trend,

I can honestly foresee a Webster's entry for Toodle Time. Oh, yeah. We still haven't defined it. You think there's going to be an eight-episode arc about Toodle Time?

Okay, fine. What do we think Toodle Time could be? I don't know. It seems like it's some dance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Or like waltzing down the street or... Yeah, some kind of... How's that a series? It can be a series. You just don't... Obviously, when the video's there,

you'll see it. What would you do with Toodle Time? I guess it's like a... Are we doing like an eight-episode arc? Is that what we're doing now? We don't have to do

an eight-episode arc. You could do a single... You could do a ten-episode. It could be a lot longer than that. We're thinking big here. Amusement park. At the very least

we have to get it off the ground. Pilot it. Do you have other ideas or that was it? No, there are multiple ideas. Okay, yeah. There's a lot.

Because let's hear them all and then because it might like the Durst one we might come back and realize Toodle Time was accidentally the best one. Okay. Well actually so you have the freedom to think

whatever Toodle Time is going to be. So I went ahead and purchased the domain ToodleTime.com, T-O-O-D-L-E, time.com for one year, which will redirect to your TikTok profile. Wait, did you actually do that? Yeah, and this... No way. This contract is an agreement that you... profile. Wait, did you actually do that? Yeah, and this contract is an agreement

that you You're sweating so much. He's wearing a wire on mic for some reason. Wait, this is a real thing? So what does that say? It's the Toodle Time Agreement. Wait, so what does this mean? What am I signing?

It means that I'm giving you full permission to use this word that I've created in all of your content. So she signs that and she owns the domain? Yeah, she also owns the domain.

So you can sign at the bottom right there. That's insane. Wait. No, that's just the first one. Okay. You know, you should actually read contracts,

but in this scenario, I'm not going to. Send it to Lev Ginsburg first. I'll send this. I'm going to send, I'm not going to. Send it to Lev Ginsburg first. I'll send this. I'm going to send, I'm just going to send this clip to my agent and just be like, I signed something live on camera and I don't know what it's at. And she's going to be like. I think somebody owns my TikTok now. Yeah.

I just signed over all of my rights. That's great. This is in first position now. You can't do. If you're listening, go to toodletime.com and then go to my TikTok and then follow me. That's really good. This girl is on fire. If you're listening, go to ToodleTime.com and then go to my TikTok and then follow me. That's really good, yeah. Toodle Time is now yours.

All right. Is that the end of the road? It can't get better than that. So, yeah. Well, no, it's going to get better. My private investigator actually let me know that you're a huge... Where do you get this money? You're a huge Carly Simon fan, right? Of course.

Yeah, notoriously. Okay, okay. And you swell sweaters at SDG Knits. Yeah. Correct. Okay. Yeah, everyone,

these are handmade sweaters. They're great. Is that a sweater? This is one of them. I normally do words, but this is a blue dog. See, look at that. It's great.

So let's combine your biggest passions, Carly Simon and sweaters and make a TikTok audio that's unique to you and you only. I gave the Carly Simon song, Nobody Does It Better a complete overhaul

and it's going to get the attention of the untapped market of Carly Simon. You know where this is going. Jeff, can you play Nobody Does It Sweater? There we go. Background vocals. Harmonies. That's pretty good. Background vocals. Harmonies.

Pretty good. It's worse. Cardboard that's too big to lift. We went to Staples last night. Johnny said, I need a few things. I see. I heard that. Yeah. You guys want to go to Staples last night Johnny said I need a few things I see I heard that yeah you like you guys want to go

to Staples now and I thought you meant like the arena Staples Center yeah no you went to an office supply to get that

if I did go to the arena I would have said crypto.com stadium smart who sang that who was that who was that singing that was me

really yeah sounded great that was very good yeah much better you must not know about Gi of course

but the bar is low that can go over any sweater video that you may produce or it can be played at a birthday party you have full permission to do that

it's evergreen and loved by all so here is a no way come on you gotta be just add it to the

original contract you fucking monster why are you making right right a contract thank you sign the next Come on. You gotta be fucking kidding me. Just add it to the original contract. You fucking monster. Why are you making it? Right, right. Ask for a fucking autograph every two minutes. Sign the next two as well. You'll already see

where this is going. And I flipped to the second page of the first one and he was like, no, no, no, just the first one. So that contract will give you full licensing

and distribution rights for that song, which is a parody. How many more pages? I think there's a few more pages. It's a stack. This thing. Euphoria season 3

you make a million dollars right and for the next one I heard one of your tiktoks and it had the Kim Kardashian audio

of they took it off they took it off yeah they removed the audio oh that's such a shame to hear wait which one are you talking about the one where she's talking about

um you should get your ass up and work right okay so that one stayed but I made a parody of that that they took down oh no Wait, which one are you talking about? The one where she's talking about, you should get your ass up and work. Right, okay. So that one stayed, but I made a parody of that that they took down. Oh, no. TikTok's very loosey-goosey. I know, and it was going viral, and I was getting followers.

I was like, God damn it. There's borderline sex tapes on there, and then somebody's like, oh, they took down my video saying you might be able to try mushrooms. So let's try this again. So what's the difference between these two things? Yeah, I don't know. They took it down. Anyways, keep going yeah

look obviously we're talking about it it seems like it did numbers on your TikTok profile like it or not Kim Kardashian is a hot topic

and I like that you used her audio it's brilliant from a content standpoint we get it she has a good clip what are you bringing to the equation

it's not danceable is what I'm trying to say. It's not danceable. Someone's talking? Yeah, it's not big for dancing. And look, I can't shake my ass to it. And I shake my ass to a lot of things. So what I did was I made a sound that gives you the virality of Kim Kardashian

with the danceability of Cotton eye joe uh jeff can you play work it seems like nobody wants to work these days get your fucking ass up and work get your fucking ass up and work gotta work get your fucking ass up and work Gotta work. Get your fucking ass up and work. It's you crip walking to that? The thing is that that would actually go viral. And I really want to sign that contract.

There we go. That was for sale. I just wanted to show you I could do it. Yeah, there's not a contract for that. That one's for the girls and the gays. Vogueing? Not optional. Not optional. You gotta vogue. Since we already have your signature for music licensing,

the next contract turns into perpetuity. Let's me be your indentured choreographer for this audio. I'm sort of a serf. Yeah. Right. I'm signing away my human rights to be a choreographer for this TikTok audio. My last indentured choreographer didn't work out.

This is good. This is great to hear. Yep. Wow. That one actually was really like that would go viral truly all we need is one influencer

yeah to make the plunge we need one Sally Dargriffin yeah great and now this is amazing I'm seeing a lot of solid traction

with this partnership already I'm very excited I hope you are too yeah what if Jeff's like ooh we ran out of time before you got to any of this? You can do it next week.

Pitching to pile. I'm not only thinking of what's going to go viral now. Obviously, Kim Kardashian, two, three weeks down the line, she's underwater. She doesn't know. We're not talking about

Kim Kardashian anymore. Not true. She's got Evergreen, one of the most famous people in the world. I'm thinking of future business opportunities and prospects. I can see your name in screens everywhere. Times Square. A lot of screens there.

No screens. People usually say name in lights. Modern age. Modern age. In five to ten years, I want you to actually answer genuinely. Where do you hope to see yourself? Genuinely? Yeah, genuinely. I hope to not be relying on the internet as much as I currently have to. So something in the more quote unquote traditional Hollywood space, whether that's like

TV, film, but not fully abandoning the internet and then also small business of selling my sweaters. That'd be great. That's great. And I'm glad you said that. I want listeners right now to root for you and follow your five to 10 year trajectory. And I'm glad you said something that's more traditional. What I have is an idea for a Sally Dark Griffin rock musical. Oh, right. That would be a huge hit.

It's relating to sweaters. Think Rent, but instead of following the life and times of artists in New York, it's about sweaters. Oh, perfect. Pretty easy. Obviously, you're going to assist in writing the book, and music and lyrics, and obviously now choreography, are going to be, for me and my team at Pretty Whack, I put together a demo of a song from that musical. Jeffrey, can you play the final audio? What's the deal with all the freezing air?

I need a sweater. A piece of fabric wrapped around my skin like nothing better. There we go. No more photos, khakis, and no more shirts. There we go. Okay.

It's like next to normal. Yeah. Kind of very sexual. Very, very sexual. I like that. No more khakis. Yeah, no more khakis. You can wear khakis in a sweater. Huh, very sexual. I like that. No more khakis. Yeah, no more khakis. You can wear khakis in a sweater. Huh?

Never mind. That's the least of your concerns, I guess. So as you can see, your end goal can be realized post haste. I want you to sign the final page, and your plan will be realized with the help of Pretty Whack in five to ten years. Right. This is an actual contract from the Cherry Lane Theater. A 40-day run.

Can I count you in? Yeah, of course. Colby Calais style? Yeah. Great. My signature's getting progressively less and less legible. Can you count me in? Yes, I will count you in.

That was a good reference. All right, you won't be disappointed. My private investigator will be in contact with you. I love how you need a PI to do this. To check the internet. All right, Jeffrey, thank you for letting me speak. Oh, my God. That was unbelievable, Johnny.

So what did Johnny tell you? Yeah, I'll wait until... What did Johnny tell you when he landed that you were like, this is a great idea? I just know Johnny as a creative genius. I see, I see. I tried not to tell him anything about what was going to happen. We should say Johnny flew out just for this record. Ah, I see.

He's only in LA for this. Did he know that Sally was going to be on the show? Oh my god. Yeah, that's why. Wow, I love the idea of you thinking of me as you're landing in Burbank. Very romantic.

That's beautiful. All right, we have one last segment. Here we go. Let's get a good intro here. Oh my god. So this is a plug for SDG Knits.

I like to call this segment Niches. Knit pitches. So I love your stuff. But I mean, I want to know, A, how do you come up with the sayings or two words or letters or designs?

What's the inspiration for that? So this one was custom from my friend Courtney, average fashion blogger. She wanted one that said cast me because she's always doing self-tapes and she thought it would be funny if she like did a self tape

wearing this sweater so this one was custom did it work? I don't think it's worked yet it will though she's a star it's a very funny idea but yeah this one was custom

but the other ones I just think I mean I like the big letters and I like them to be like four to five letters so there's kind of like a little bit of a how long does this take?

this is very impressive these are great it depends on how focused I am in general like a week I just finished... How long does this take? This is very impressive. Yeah, these are great. It depends on how focused I am in general, like a week. I just finished one that took me like two weeks. I would have assumed like a month.

Yeah, Jesus. No, well, I do it when I like watch TV. So like that, I think about how much you watch TV. Are you mostly looking down when you're knitting or are you like looking up at the TV and blindly knitting? It depends. It depends on...

I can do it without looking, but like I'm always checking. Wow. This one, I literally have... In the same way that people have ideas in their notes for like videos or like tweets, whatever, I have ideas for phrases for knitting. And like, I just, this one's funny. Like, I think the phrase tell me when is hilarious.

Have you sold any of these or you just have them to show people? No, I'm in a weird phase. I like to keep some of them for myself. I'm like, I want to keep that for myself. But I'm starting to sell. So like selling to Courtney, she was the first one I really sold to. And then one I just finished is for my friend named BugGirl200 is her username. And she has a brand called BugGirl200 brand. So I'm selling her one because she's like a fellow like fashion girl.

So I'm selling to very few people that are like friends. I'm selling to friends first. Yeah. See how it goes. Well, so it must be selling to friends first. Yeah. See how it goes. Well, so, it must be hard to come up with these

and I thought that maybe we could add to your list of inspirations. Okay, please. So I've come up with a couple pitches. Oh, please. A couple niches rather. You did say you like to keep it

to five to six letters so you might not like any of these. Oh, no. Hey, I can change the pattern. Don't worry. All right. Bruce Mangosteen.

Meaning? Just walk me through that one. Can we just talk through it that because it's not like spring is a fruit so I don't understand why you replace spring with mango Bruce Springsteen

but Bruce Mangosteen it's quirky it's irreverent people are going to look twice at the sweater and be like where did you get that what does it mean

they're going to be accusatory more like not really curious who would buy a Bruce Mangosteen sweater right it appeals to nobody. Also, I think they should be on three lines, right?

Because the steen is almost going to the back of the sweater. Well, I ran out of space. Yeah, so she will definitely run out of space. Because you can actually make it digitally a lot smaller than she can. Yeah. And obviously you know how to do that. You tilted the text. So you can resize and make it a little bit smaller.

Well, now I'm getting nervous and shutting down because if you didn't like this one, you're not going to like any of these. Well, actually, Sally didn't weigh in on that one. I think it's great. I have a similar idea in my phone. I think it's

Stanley Tucci ate my child or something like that. So, like, a similar energy makes people look twice. Yeah. That's funny. That's funny. And see, this one is like

Bruce Mangosteen. It's a pun of nothing yeah here we go crab rangoon afternoon oh that's good that one's actually I do like that one

and I do like a crab rangoon so perfect so I've been thinking about like drunch alternatives because I've been trying to drink less just for you know health

and you know and maybe instead of drunch with the you know with all the gang on Sunday after a night out, you go out and you just get a couple crab rangoons in the afternoon. That's perfect.

I like that when you said crab rangoon afternoon, our producer Casey had to look up in disbelief at the television screen. All right, so that one might go, here we go. Eat lamb, not meat. Oh. I'm actually, I'm liking this one. I have a cookbook that has a lamb hummus that I want to make.

Yeah. And so, like, this is really fitting in with my life personally. Awesome. Can I? And then you can make it out of lamb's wool. What's that? That's good. My pitch would be eat veal, not meat.

Because veal is probably the worst kind of meat you can have. It's literally cows that are killed as adolescents. Right, yeah. So nobody would actually think that. But that one's good too, eat lamb, not meat. Here we go. It's okay to lease a hat.

You tweeted that one. Yeah, you did tweet that one. How many likes did you get on that? That one got a kind of like 200. Okay. But it is okay to lease a hat. It is. Well, it's not illegal. It's not bad.

It's not against the rules. Yeah, no, not at all. You can lease a hat well it's not illegal it's not bad it's not against the rules you can lease a hat you can have a fedora that you make monthly payments on and then so this sweater is like you could wear it with the hat that you're renting personally this doesn't spark joy for me because it doesn't

give me an interesting sentence or sentiment that i want to put out in the world so you would marie kondo this you'd get it out i would say put it in the to-go box donate it to somebody who would ever think that this is a good idea and i think it's just you because you tweeted it and it didn't resonate with anybody i don't believe right 200 people well the only reason 200 people liked it was because they saw Amir's reply to it, which was... So, like, it boosted it

a lot more. I think if Amir didn't do anything, interact, it wouldn't have gotten any kind of... It's like that old... I think it was one of the earliest TikTok.

It's like, stop, he's boosting minds. And it's that skinny guy like doing that dance. Anyway. Who's got you smiling like that? Who's got you leasing that hat? Leaf me to die.

That's good for fall. Yeah. Yeah. Love a fall sweater. Yeah. Imagine Daniel Craig in that. It'll sound like it'll look like the new Bond movie. No time. T-H-Y-M-E. That's good. Alright. There's no crying in Chatsworth.

Huh. That one is going onto the sleeve. Yeah. I don't know.'s no crying in Chatsworth. Huh. That one is going onto the sleeve. Yeah, I don't know. Do you know where Chatsworth is? No. I'm feeling like I should. It's deep in the valley. Gotcha. We shot Lonely and Horny up there. That's right. There's a lot of space over there. And do you know what

the quote is referencing? There's no crying in I don't know. Baseball. The reference is referencing? There's no crying in, I don't know. Baseball. So the reference is lost. And then also it's about a place that Sally's never heard of. Yeah. And it also sounds very similar to where I'm from, Chattanooga.

Right. I should have done more research. This whole thing is I should have done more research. That PI that Johnny had. Yeah. You guys did a lot of research. More than I thought. All right. Here we go. Offline ceramics. Oh, you guys did a lot of research more than I thought. All right,

here we go. Offline ceramics. Oh, that one's good. I know that reference and I'm liking that one. Yeah. You have a hat

that's like that, right? Yeah. Online ceramics? I almost interned for them in like 2017. Oh, nice. Because I was really into tie dye and I was living in fi-dye.

You weren't. I had a, what's the opposite of a pen? I guess a basement at the U.S. Bank Tower. You said the opposite of a penthouse? Yeah. Okay, basement. I do live in a basement right now. But anyway, I thought that'd be kind of quirky and irreverent.

Yeah, no, I like that one. I mean, I don't own an online ceramic shirt, so this would be a good alternative. You might get a cease and desist, but it'll be worth it. Probably. I mean, I might get a cease and desist. Damn, Daniel! Back at it again with the white van! Somehow it's just like clipping even more.

Small complaint, but you chose the worst color to add on to a piece of leather. That's kind of the style of online ceramics, but good note. Bright green on dark gray. Sucks to see. Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.

All right. And this might be the last one. Let's see. When's the beef? Oh, that's nice. Do you know what that's a reference to? Instead of when, it's where's the beef? Yeah.

Yeah. Sorry, we're speechless. Yeah, yeah no it's good it's similar to like tell me when where it's like what is this leading to like I don't know who's

what would you answer this sweater with you'd probably answer it with crab rangoon afternoon right of course yeah I just like asking the wrong questions

yeah yeah just on the front crab rangoon afternoon on the back. When's the beef, though? So I think that's it. Let's, yep.

Oh, wait. One last one. Is S.E. Cup zombie? Oh, my favorite tweet of yours. Yeah, this one's losing me as well. You know CNN anchor S.E. Cup? No, but now I do. Well, the question is, is she zombie?

What is zombie? What is zombie again? It's like zaddy. Oh, no. Every two months, Jeff tweets this. I do. Well, the question is, is she zombie? What is zombie? What is zombie? It's like zaddy. Oh, no. Every two months, Jeff tweets this or I tell him to tweet it. You always do.

You do. And it never does well. I'm going to throw it a like next time. Is S-E-C-O-P zombie? God, that's good stuff. This just in. Jared Leto, 50,

responds to Buzz about his youthful appearance. It doesn't matter Just end on this just kind of wax about it if you guys had any thoughts it doesn't seem like he's not responding He said words to you in an email it doesn't matter Oh what a scoop He said words to you in an email. It doesn't matter. What a scoop. This is People Magazine.

That means a group of five editors was like, send it out. Right. My impression of this was the writer just had a deadline at midnight and was just like, shit, send. Yeah, it's like Jared Leto 50 responds to his useful appearance. What? Question mark. That's fine. Whatever. What? Question mark. That's fine. Whatever. What'd you say?

What's that? We got it. We just need a headline. Thanks, Jared. You walking out of a Papa John's or something? A pop-up John's. That's a pizzeria that's only around for two weeks. Do you get paparazzo coming up to you?

Oh, my God. How famous do you think I am? I don't know No not at all I never go west of the 101 So I don't know what happens No no never Has anyone asked

For a picture with you? Yeah Oh okay Yeah of course Well when is that Going to happen to me? It's funny though It happens less in LA

And more like If I'm home in Chattanooga It happens more But I think it's because Like LA people were acting They were just like Oh whatever Your hometown hero.

I suppose. Look at that. And we actually wanted to talk to you about that. What are you doing for the community of Chattanooga? Because you have this platform. No, you don't have to put her on the spot like that. What are you doing? They have a meme account that I throw a few likes.

I think that's a really good thing for the community. That's a shitty service. I go back like twice a year. It doesn't matter. I grace them with my presents over Memorial Day weekend. Every doesn't matter I grace them with my presents over Memorial Day weekend every six months I grace them with my presents

yeah make a mission trip to Chattanooga yes yes alright well we made it through we powered through

that was easy Salidar what do you want to plug the floor is yours what do you want to point the people to the floor is yours go I'm going to plug everything. My name is Sally Dar Griffin. Find me on

TikTok at Sally Dar Griffin, Twitter at Sally Dar, Letterboxd for my film bros at Sally Dar. Yeah, Instagram at Sally Dar Griffin, YouTube, Sally Dar Griffin. You can find me anywhere. No one has my name, so it's very easy to find me. That's why we chose.

Yeah, tootletime.com. That's a forwardingodletime.com yeah toodletime.com you gotta go toodletime that's a forwarding URL for sure yeah yeah Johnny Amir you guys have anything you're working on

obviously not Amir but Johnny okay you don't have to cut him off like that that's fine well the reddit show is dead in the water

yeah I was in the game show is dead in the water development hell as they say sort of but two pilot seasons have passed these lawyers Yeah. I was in... The game show is dead in the water. Development hell, as they say. Yeah. Sort of. But two pilot seasons have passed.

Yeah. Exactly. These lawyers get involved and everything slows down. These PIs get involved. Nobody ever just hands me a contract to sign, you know? Right, yeah.

We can't all be like me. Exactly. You can follow me on Instagram at JohnnyV, J-O-H-N-N-Y-V-I-I. Follow me there. I'm gonna be releasing music eventually. Yeah, just follow me there.

Also go to Toodle Time. Also, if you need a private investigator, hit me up. I've got a great rec. I've got a great guy. Amir, anything? Two things. One, do you think you'll use that sweater? The Carly Simon sweater song? No, but he does. It's, anything? Two things. One, do you think you'll use that sweater? The Carly Simon sweater song? Yeah, maybe.

Maybe? Yeah. Maybe is a no in the room. What else is she going to say? And then secondly, I wore shorts today. I'm not sure if they're front and center in the frame. I look forward to seeing what they look like. The first thing Casey said to us when we sat down was, and you're wearing pants. Great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, it's a warm day out. I look forward to seeing what they look like. The first thing Casey said to us when we sat down was, and you're wearing pants, great.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, it's a warm day out. I didn't think about the camera aspects of it all, but now that I imagine what previous podcasts that I shot here, there's a lot of jeans in it. Right now, it's just going to be bare leg in it, and I'm wondering if that's

an issue. Not that I want every comment to be about that, but if you casually think about it way in below. Yeah. I could go shorter, longer. I can make sure that I'm wearing fucking jeans next time. As it gets hotter, it's just going to keep. I could be brown.

I could be, dude, I could be brown. Let's go. It's a thing from TikTok as well. I am on TikTok. Thanks for bringing it up. thing from TikTok as well. I am on TikTok. Thanks for bringing it up.

OK Bloomer, which is sort of a pun on OK Boomer. Friend Billy thought of it because I felt old on TikTok. I'm chill. That was a crazy quote. Follow me and Sally

on TikTok because we're probably going to collab soon. No way. We should both dance to the song. Toodle time, baby. Or the work one. I think that one will actually... If we dance to that, I think it would go viral. Yeah.

We'll be like, what is happening? You really like the sweater one, man. I do like it. I like the song and then, yeah. I can make you a sweater and then you can use it. I was going to ask what your price was for a commissioned piece. Yeah. You probably don't have time.

No. Well, it's like kind of hard because like with Courtney, like she was promoting it. So I was like, okay, well, I won't charge you as much. But like they take so long that I'm like, I can't charge like $100. It's kind of like an NFT. You should charge crypto because people are like, yeah, what's one Ethereum? It's fine. People are paying you $3,000 for a sweater.

It's hard to charge like a lot though because I'm like, I feel like an asshole. Like no one wants to pay $300 for a sweater. Or if you charge a lot, then it's like, holy shit, that person can afford that sweater. Like that's how watches work, right? They tell time just as well. But like, holy shit, that guy has that specific one. So your sweater is like, oh my God, that's a Salidar original. Those are like $1,200

are there Sallydar knit flippers flippers what do you mean they buy from you for $150 they sell for $375 oh that would be horrible

like Yeezys no I'm not that important yet yeah I don't know right now probably like $200, $300 cause I'm like I sell to friends too

so I'm just like I'm not gonna charge you I think you can upcharge cause our audience is a bunch of fucking freak. If it was a total stranger, I would charge more though because I'm like,

that's my baby. Which my friends, I get to see my sweaters. Yeah, I don't have to fully let them get them. Yeah. Well, I have a, they upped my credit limit.

So I'll drop 250 on an SDG. Okay. But what would yours say? I think it would, I might have to go probably something rice related oh rice would be good

rhythm of the rice yeah that's a lot I was gonna do Darpool karaoke maybe if we have you back on ever we'll do that

that would be fun yeah I felt too bad making you sing I did acapella in high school I could say wow

that's my friend that I said lives like next door we did acapella together hell school, I could say. You did? Wow. That's my friend that I said lives, like, next door. We did acapella together. Hell yeah. All right. We did it. First episode in the LA studio.

Thank you guys so much for watching. Jeffrey James on Instagram. Jeff Boyardee on Twitter. And we'll see you guys again next week. That's Dawes, folks. Wow. That was a Hidgum Original.