The Headlines - Trump Targets Tylenol and Vaccines, and ABC Brings Kimmel Back

Episode Date: September 23, 2025

Plus, America’s new astronauts. Here’s what we’re covering:Trump Issues Warning Based on Unproven Link Between Tylenol and Autism by Azeen GhorayshiSupreme Court Allows Trump to Fire F.T.C. Com...missioner by Abbie VanSickle and Ann E. MarimowJimmy Kimmel’s Show to Return to ABC on Tuesday Night by John Koblin, Brooks Barnes, Michael M. Grynbaum and Benjamin MullinWomen Outnumber Men in NASA’s Newest Astronaut Class by Kenneth ChangTune in every weekend morning, and tell us what you think at: theheadlines@nytimes.com. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Also, for more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From the New York Times, it's the headlines. I'm Tracy Mumford. Today's Tuesday, September 23rd. Here's what we're covering. I think I can say that there are certain groups of people that don't take vaccines and don't take any pills that have no autism, that have no autism. Does that tell you something? That's currently, is that a correct statement, by the way?
Starting point is 00:00:28 President Trump and top federal health officials held a press conference yesterday about the root causes of autism, the neurological disorder whose symptoms can range widely, from struggling to read social cues to being unable to speak. The meteoric rise in autism is among the most alarming public health developments in history. There's never been anything like this. Autism diagnoses in children have been rising. Public health experts say a big part of that is increased awareness. More people are talking about it with their kids' doctors. There have also been decades of research into potential risk factors,
Starting point is 00:01:05 everything from air pollution to the age of people's parents. Taking Tylenol is not good. I'll say it. It's not good. President Trump claimed, without new evidence, that it could be caused by acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol. It's something scientists have looked at for years. Studies have so far yielded inconclusive results. A scientific review this summer found there was evidence of a link
Starting point is 00:01:34 between acetaminopin use during pregnancy and neurodevelopment disorders like autism and ADHD, but not a cause-and-effect relationship. Scientists overwhelmingly agree that autism results from a complex mix of genetic and environmental factors. Don't take Tylenol. Don't take it. if you just can't, I mean, it's a fight like hell not to take it. My colleague Emily Baumgartner Nunn covers health at the times.
Starting point is 00:02:03 She says that the president's warning flew in the face of recommendations from leading medical groups, which say that limited acetaminopin use is safe during pregnancy. So far, all of the scientific experts we've spoken to since that press conference have stood by their previous opinion, which is that Tylenol or acetaminopin should only be used in pregnancy in low doses at the least frequent interval possible, but that sometimes Tylenol is necessary because fevers during pregnancy can really bring about all of their own risks. At the press conference, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and the Commissioner of the FDA announced there will be more research into autism, with millions in federal funding going to study other environmental factors,
Starting point is 00:02:49 including a long-debunked theory that blames vaccines. At the Supreme Court yesterday, the conservative majority said President Trump can fire one of the heads of the Federal Trade Commission, setting up a court battle over the limits of presidential power. When Trump moved to fire the Democratic member of the FTC earlier this year, her lawyers fought back, pointing to a ruling from the Supreme Court. Court in 1935 over a nearly identical scenario when President Franklin D. Roosevelt tried to fire an FTC commissioner. In that case, the court ruled that presidents cannot remove
Starting point is 00:03:31 independent regulators just because they disagree over policy. Now, by issuing their emergency order letting her be fired, the court is suggesting it's open to overturning that landmark precedent. It will hear full arguments in the case in December. The liberal justices, meanwhile, issued a sharp dissent, with Elena Kagan writing that it opened the door to president's firing regulators, quote, for any reason or no reason at all, and that her colleagues were essentially letting the president take control over agencies that were supposed to be protected from partisan politics. Kagan also made a broader critique of the way that the court was making its decision, through its emergency docket, which is also known as the shadow docket, that fast-track process where the justices can
Starting point is 00:04:17 issue unsigned and unexplained rulings without having heard oral arguments, has been criticized for years. But it's come under increasing scrutiny as the Trump administration has brought more than 20 emergency applications to the court this year alone. Kagan warned that the court's majority was using that process to let the administration steamroll over the court's own precedent and quote, reshape the nation's separation of powers. Tonight, Jimmy Kimmel will be back on the air. In the last week, the late-night host has been at the center of a political firestorm and a fierce debate over free speech in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:05:03 His show was abruptly paused by ABC after he made comments about the suspect in the Charlie Kirk assassination that angered conservatives, and after the head of the Federal Communications Commission suggested that he might crack down on stations that broadcast Kimmel's show. show. In a statement, Disney, which owns ABC, said it had stopped production, quote, to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country. Kimmel had been planning an opening monologue about the whole controversy that made executives nervous. The Times
Starting point is 00:05:35 has learned that after the show was pulled, leaders from Disney sat down with Kimmel and his lawyer to figure out a path to getting the show back on air. In that first meeting, Kimmel did not agree to change his script. A decision about what Kimmel will say tonight was made yesterday after more discussion. Though he'll be returning to ABC, it's not yet clear exactly how widely the show will be broadcast. At least one of the TV companies that publicly criticized Kimmel, the conservative media giant Sinclair, has said it won't be airing the show. Sinclair owns about two dozen ABC affiliates and had previously called on Kimmel to apologize to Kirk's family and make a donation to his political group, Turning Point, USA.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And finally, so I had my sea bags packed, ready to go meet the aircraft carrier. I just finished flight training for the day. And my spouse and I were on the couch. We get a call from an unknown number, and we both look at each other. And then we were, like, throwing blankets and pillows. Oh, my gosh, where's a remote? Turn the TV off. Yesterday, Aaron Overcash, a 34-year-old Navy pilot, took the stage at a pre-year-old.
Starting point is 00:06:45 press conference in Houston to describe getting the call, the call that she would be one of NASA's new class of astronauts. He effectively said, do you still want the job? And the first words that I said on the phone were, no way. I mean, I mean, yes, of course, but like, no way. Overcash is one of 10 new astronaut candidates that NASA unveiled yesterday, chosen from over 8,000 applicants. The majority have a military background, and six of the ten are women, the first time that women have outnumbered men. One of these ten could actually be one of the first Americans to put their boots on the Mars surface, which is very, very cool. Again, no pressure NASA. We have some more to do. Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy, who was also the acting head of NASA, touted the government's big plans for the space program, including trips to the red planet and beyond.
Starting point is 00:07:43 First, though, the candidates need to complete two years of training. They'll learn to fly NASA's T-38 jet planes. And because Russia is NASA's main partner on the International Space Station, where most astronauts are sent, they also need to learn to speak Russian. Because if things go sideways up there, you really want to be able to say, Nya ut-criviye et tot look. Don't open that hatch. Those are the headlines.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I'm Tracy Mumford. We'll be back tomorrow.

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