Colin Cowherd Podcast - Micah Parsons Immediate Impact, Purdy Impressive, Dolphins Are DONE, Bo Nix Was BAD, START Jaxson Dart
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03:00 And so it begins, John Middilcoff, former NFL Scout. has his own podcast three and out golf two go low next 20 weeks or so we'll do an hour plus here on a sunday night get it to our youtube page the colin coward youtube page volumes as well so let's start packers 27 lion six uh there were two things in the off season that worried me uh they hired within the building they lost two great coordinators ben johnson aaron glen hired within the building It was an auspicious debut by the coordinators. The second thing that worried me rebuilding the O-Line, they have really pushed people around for the last several years up front.
03:43 They averaged 2.2 yards of carry on the road. Also, if you take Ben Johnson and McVeigh out of Jared Gough's career, you know, those are two whiz kids. So we can get to Mike in a second. Let's talk to Troy. They were not really that competitive. They didn't get push up front. The rebuild of the O line is a complete work in progress, not clever offensively.
04:08 This is my problem with, you know, you have an opening at a company. Let's hire within the company. This is the NFL. There's 32 teams. Lions are elite. Go get the best O.C. What was your first impressions of Detroit's offense? Well, I think you're the first guy I've ever seen that made a grand proclamation after the Hall of Fame game.
04:27 And you were right. I mean, they were a mess. I thought, you know, Colin, we're a little early. But one thing was clear watching the Jets today is Aaron Glenn's a pretty special motivated. Now, I do think replacing defensive coordinators are hard. And a lot of times it does happen internally. I mean, the 49ers did it once upon a time with Saul. It's a Domeco.
04:45 I think that's what Dan. So I don't have a problem with that one. But anytime you hire basically a first-time coordinator of 55 years old in a day and age where 30-something OCs are all over the pros in college, just because you know this guy. all I kept hearing was he's Sean Payton guy, he's John Gruden's guy. It's like, why didn't they make him as coordinator over the years? They never did. So to me, calling plays, most people in the NFL, if you got them on a whiteboard, would blow you away with their knowledge. But there
05:13 is something instinctive about a play caller, about knowing when to call plays. And today, they looked like a mess. Now, you know where I stood. I thought the Packers were going to be good this year. Game was in Green Bay. They were very motivated how crappy they were last year, in the division. This was a huge game for them. You know, remember the Lions, you know, beat them twice last year. So, and historically, the Lions never won in Green Bay. So I would say Green Bay had a lot to play for, but, yeah, I mean, it was, it was ugly. Listen, I mean, if Jordan Love's going to play like he did in the first half, they would beat a lot of teams, Colin. I mean, he was like 12 16, threw a couple touchdowns. He looked like 2012 or 13 Aaron Rogers. And I think the way
05:54 he was playing, the way LaFleur was calling plays, their wide receivers were making plays. Yeah. They would have beat this version of the Lions last year with the coordinators, I think, today. Yeah. And, you know, the, I will say this about Green Bay's defense. Micah opened it up for other players. That was pretty obvious. He got a sack late. But I do think his mere presence, and I think you see this all the time, if McCaffrey's behind Brock Purdy, it's a different offense, whether he touches it or not. And I think with Micah Parsons in the game, Van Ness had more opportunities. I just thought to me it was like very obvious that the Lions went into this game and the staff talked about, listen, when you see Micah on the field, know where he's at. That's what it felt like to me. I do think I'm not going to write off the Lions just yet because this was a road divisional game. And this was, I mean, they got their ass kicked. If this would have been in Detroit, I would be completely out.
06:50 I'm going to give them a little bit of grace here. But you're right, the offensive line, to lose your center, to lose a big time guard. they've really hung their hat on that, right, the last three years. Best offensive line in the league. Best offensive line in the league. Their quarterback can't move. He's really the last of a dying breed, right? You watch college football, they all can move. You watch the NFL.
07:09 All these quarterbacks can move. Watching Darnold and Purdy today. And they're average athletes, right? So a guy like that is something we would have seen 15, 20, 30 years ago. They don't exist anymore. So when you can't protect, golf is a sitting duck. And that is the one thing where a great play caller can help him out. And I think Johnny, Johnny Morton, I was like, God, that name sounds familiar.
07:30 Oh, yeah, he was the wide receiver coach on all those Harbaugh teams with the 49ers. Yeah. Well, everyone was getting jobs then. How weren't people interested? If that guy couldn't get a job off that staff, pretty big red flag. And honestly, it couldn't come back to bite Dan Campbell big time. If that's the display that we're going to see throughout the season, they'd be in major trouble, Colin. Because that division's too good.
07:49 Yeah, well, it was funny. I had Green Bay as a playoff team, but in second place all off season. Then I finally flipped it and put Green Bay. winning the division. And I think the thing that I really came back on is if you looked at Green Bay with all the injuries they had to Jordan Love and all the youth they had at tight end and wide receiver, and they're still winning double-digit games. I mean, they won games with Malik Willis, who got thrown on to the squad in like August last year. And it's like, that tells you organizationally and coaching. They're a pretty special group. Plus, their defensive coordinator now
08:21 gets a second year. We've seen that a lot where it's a second year for a coordinator. I mean, Mike McDonald's Seahawks in year two looked pretty special today at times. So, you know, I just, I think Green Bay is a great example. You know, they went after Charles Woods and or Reggie White or Micah Parsons. They rarely, very infrequently, go out of their comfort zone, big trades or big, free agents. But they generally do it and they're right. It's like drafting quarterbacks and big free agent signings. They don't miss a lot, you know, from Air, Aaron to Brett to Jordan. And when I watch Jordan Love, the one thing I like about him, I'd compare him more to Fav than I would Aaron Rogers, where, you know, if he throws a pick, he doesn't, it doesn't change his mood.
09:08 He's kind of a let it rip guy. He was that at Utah State. He is now. There's a certain, I mean, it's kind of cool when your quarterback's young and all his tight ends and receivers are young. Like at the end, Brady was playing, you know, he didn't have any patience for young receivers for New England. And Aaron doesn't love playing with young, you know, tight ends or young receivers. I get it. But Jordan loved generationally, all these tight ends and all receivers are probably the same music, the same tech.
09:37 There's the same age. I thought the first half he looked like the guy that played two years ago down the stretch, those six, seven games, which essentially got him a massive contract. But the Micah Parsons move, you know, Reggie White was a true free agent. It was the first year free agency ever existed. so was Charles Woodson. They gave up nothing. While they did give up multiple first round picks, that has no impact on the 2025 season. So they essentially just traded Kenny Clark straight up for Micah Parsons this season.
10:06 So you're watching them, they get a huge upgrade in terms of the edge. You could tell, I mean, Micah, I know he was working out on the side in Oxnard and with the Cowboys. He's not in football shape because he hasn't been playing football. But I would imagine by October, I mean, can you imagine him and Gary coming off the – because Gary is much more kind of a complete, rugged. you know, defensive line presence. Where Mike is that true Ferrari off the edge. And this coach, you know, I don't know if Halfley's going to get an NFL job.
10:32 It's a little more difficult sometimes for defensive coaches. But he's going to be a number one candidate in college. Yeah. Right. I mean, some of the big power four school. I mean, he's a big time coach who's putting a pretty impressive resume on the defensive side. A place where the Packers have not been good, Colin. Yeah.
10:46 I mean, they haven't been good for a long, long time on that side of the ball. That's why I defended the Micah Parsons move. It's like when's the last time you got a consistent. dominant edge rusher. They just don't do it. And it's interesting because through the years, they've spent their first round picks on defensive players. But the problem is they're always so good. It's generally late first round. And that's kind of no man's land. So you know, you're getting the safety or the corner or, you know, the outside linebacker who's like the 24th best, you know, prospect. Well, you're paying a first round salary for a guy that's GMs prefer you take in the
11:20 second round. So that's the, that's the downside to being excellent, is their draft. picks in the first round are late. I just, I look at Green Bay as a place where Micah, and I heard some things, you know, last year about Micah off the field and not great in the locker room. A lot of that stuff came out when ESPN threw a slew of excellent reporters on it. My take was that's Dallas leaking stories to cover their face, right? Cover their ass on the trade and make Micah look bad. But Mike is going to work in Green Bay.
11:50 Mike is going to be there. He's, by the way, he got a in the first. half. First of all, his introduction, it was like a Super Bowl introduction. Then in the first half, he got a good rush. He just, he didn't get anybody, but a good rush. The crowd went crazy. So he's going to love that. For the next six months, he is going to be, you know, the bell of the ball. Most human beings aren't natural leaders, whether you're a football player, whether you work in a company. Most human beings, even at the highest level of any industry, are somewhat followers. So you blend in to where you're at. The Cowboys are a pretty chaotic place. I mean, it's not very normal
12:29 relative to the rest of the league. I think if you put a lot of guys in Green Bay situation, how many people over the last 10, 15, 20 years, honestly, even going back to Farr have had problems in Green Bay. It's a pretty easy place to blend in. A lot of people with the Cowboys just have, it's covered a little bit different. The owner has a unique presence, not just in the team, but in the, like you, I heard you talking last week, you have to wave to people on tours. It's, it's not a normal operation for the NFL. He gets to be pretty low key in Green Bay. Yeah, I mean, that was, that was an ass kicking today.
13:03 That really was. But even if the Lions, I mean, if the Lions were to miss the playoffs, let's just say this is kind of a year from hell for them. They won 15 games last year. That'd be a pretty big step back, right? If you won nine, eight games, that'd be a problem. And Campbell would probably have to fire this guy immediately as offensive. I think one of the things you used. said earlier, Goff is, you know, by a football terms, kind of a dinosaur as a non-mobile quarterback.
13:28 He was great when the Ramso line was great. As Whitworth got older, he wasn't as dominant, and today he looked out of sorts. So it's one of those things where, you know, Matt Stafford is one of, is the only guy in the league under pressure that can shred a defense. He is a different cat. All right, time to look at this weekend's tastiest matchup in this week's Sunday night, foodball brought to you by Uber Eats, a company I use all the time. San Francisco 17, Seattle 13. This was a wildly frustrating game if you're a Niner fan. So my first take is this.
14:07 Brock Purdy had two picks. But I thought it was one of the more impressive outings I've ever seen for Brock Purdy. I really meant that. Everything's going against him. You're on the road, one of the loudest stadiums. Seattle's defense is really good and really young. Jake Moody, field goal missed, field goal blocked. So there's frustration.
14:28 George Kittle gets hurt. Trent Williams. You've heard of the Blue Man group. The Niners have a Blue Tent group. They got old dudes the head of the Blue Tent a lot. And I thought 26 to 35, 277, a great last strike. It's amazing that touchdown passed to the tight end. Tyreek Wulin, really when he let it go,
14:49 you were like, oh my God, this is a terrible throw, but that's the NFL. You have to throw guys open. So he goes, he throws the ball into a crowd. When the ball's released, it looks like a pick. But, you know, the DB got burned twice on that same drive. So my take is the stat line, two TD's two picks, won't speak well of Brock Purdy. I was really impressed. Yeah, I mean, their offensive line's not great.
15:16 I mean, he's running for his life. If he couldn't move, they would be in major trouble. I mean, his mobility and keeping plays alive. I also think, and I've come to grips with this, because I remember when he came out and he started playing well in the NFL, I started texting around. I'm like, how, I understand he's smaller, but he couldn't go in the fourth or fifth round. People thought he was an awful decision maker, which is ironic because Kyle Shanahan, you'd think
15:37 want a great decision maker. He's got a little gunslinger in him. I always said, like, you got to play like Breeze, no turning the ball over, a little like Rogers, never put the ball in harm's way. we're going on, if you go back to last year, how many second half interceptions is this guy throwing? And he's throwing some pretty bad ones. And like you said, that game winning touchdown, when the ball left his hands, I thought. Interception, third interception of the half.
16:00 Devastating. And listen, he gave his guy a chance. He's got to be driving Kyle a little nuts. But part of that is also the playmaking that he comes through. Because like you said, Kittles out early in the game after Kittle, the first drive of the game looked like, you know, a Hall of Famer. Juan Jennings, as the game goes on, hurts his shoulder. He's out.
16:17 He's throwing to people. I follow this team pretty close. I have no clue who these guys are. I mean, who's he throwing these balls to? Obviously, Ricky Pearsall, that looks like for as bad as the Jake Moody draft pick is, Ricky Pearsall was fantastic today. He was. And I'm with you. Listen, these guys swear by Brock Purdy, because mentally tough does not just go into the tank after, I mean, he easily could have gotten into the tank after both interceptions. And he keeps swinging. Yeah. You know, McCaffrey obviously helps. I mean, he's clearly a huge upgrade. It's amazing how often he makes four out of one. Sequin Barkley does this. We get caught up on the big explosive run.
16:53 Barkley and Christian McCaffrey. How many times was there nothing there, and he squirts out three and a half, four yards? He's so devastating. I think this offense is very, very difficult to operate, and Kyle is not the easiest guy to deal with as a quarterback. And I think he has a lot. Honestly, he should have more faith than Brock.
17:13 There were a couple times in the middle of the games. It's like they're running it right up the middle. It's like, hey, every, if I on my couch know the ball's going up the middle of McCaffrey, have some faith in this guy, let him make some plays, let his mobility come out to play. At the end of the game, they didn't have a choice, and Brock came through. Now, I do think there's a little element of luck with the touchdown pass. I mean, that's, I don't know where you would land on that. You know, it's not the greatest decision.
17:36 I know it worked. Listen, sometimes in the NFL, you got a 6-4, 65 guy. You got to let him have an opportunity to make a play. And he did, because I'm with you. I thought Brock would have, if they were to lost this game, now the interceptions were not a deal. They had a lot of other stuff going on that they had to fix. And whenever you don't have a kicker, it's kind of like having a bad bullpen, you know, having an NBA guy that always has bad fouls. Sometimes it's hard to overcome that.
18:00 And that's a big picture problem for the Niners. But hey, listen, you get a win on the road. As Greg Olson was saying, he's like, God, this place is really loud right now. It's hard to hear. So they got to feel pretty good, though they had some major injuries. Well, they got a little break on the touchdown. and plus Sam Darnold goes up the left sideline for 41. Seattle's poised to win it.
18:19 And then Darnold, and this has been one of his knocks, where he brings the ball down and up. He's got a slower release. That's been one of the knocks. And he brings the ball up and hits a teammate. It's on the carpet. Bosa alertly picks it up. I mean, good for Bosa.
18:35 But, I mean, it's, you know, that's a little bit of luck. Sam fumbles it hitting a teammate because he was ready to let it rip. So I think these teams, I mean, I took C. I went three and two in my blazing five if Darnold scores there on four and one. So I was pretty happy with it. But the truth is, when I watched that game, the difference is in Thanksgiving, which team do you think is healthier? And that's been my knock on San Francisco.
19:00 I thought today it was a must win for the Niners. I did not think it was a must win for the Seahawks because Seattle's got more athletes that are young, younger athletes recover more quickly. and over a 17-game schedule, guys get dinged up. So, I mean, game one, Kiddell gets her, Trent Williams in the blue tent. You know, McCaffrey will miss a game or two. That's the reality of this team. Hufunga's gone.
19:22 Greenlaw's gone. So, I mean, there's like, you know, Bosa tends to miss a game or two. So I thought it was a, I mean, this, to me, this was a big 49er win. Everybody will go, oh, it's the opener. It felt big to me. Oh, especially with, you know, felt like the kicker was going to blow it. I thought the big winner today for the 49ers, besides Purdy on that game. winning throw was Robert Sala.
19:43 And you talked about coordinators, and he was on the fence about coming out or coming back. There were a lot of different reports. They threw a ton of money at the guy. Remember a couple years ago when the Eagles got Fangio? Fangio wanted to go there. Couldn't wait to get him in Miami. You know, Robert had a lot of options. He just made a ton of money being a head coach.
19:59 He could have easily taken six months off. They were begging them. I mean, if the Niners hadn't got him, they would have been in major trouble. Beside Bosa, you know, Fred Warner gets dinged up early in the game. Niners got a lot of random guys out there running around on defense making place. And I think Robert Sala, one major question mark since D'Amico got the job with Houston, they went through Steve Wilkes, who was a weird fit. They had a guy last year who was a special team's coordinator.
20:23 It didn't work with Sorensen. And now you got Robert Sala, a guy that knows what he's doing. I mean, think about the Jets defense. Hell, even the Jets defense, I like Aaron Glanth defense getting threatened. It's terrible. But Robert Sala has proven. Yes. You know, I think we need to talk about him as one of the better defense.
20:38 No question. Because part of defense isn't even just scheme, it's motivation. I think he's kind of the total package. So the Niners, he came big today. He was awesome. That was this week's Sunday night football brought to you by Uber Eats. When football makes you hungry, get game day deals on Uber Eats. I do every week.
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24:43 wildly entertaining game. This was one of the best one o'clock window games I've ever watched. I'm dead serious. It was freaking crazy. So let's talk about, let's talk about Pittsburgh's win. I mean, it's interesting with Aaron. He's a statue. He got sack four times. He got rocked late in the fourth. I mean, it was brutal. I didn't know if he was going to get up. But I think his mindset with this team is, listen, I'm going to be the distributor. He's going to be a little Chris Paul. He's going to be tough. He's occasionally going to make a great shot. But by and large, he's going to distribute, lead. And I thought from that vantage point, I mean, again, old Chris Paul can't defend like young Chris Paul. But there is something about guidance and leadership and distribution.
25:33 I thought overall, it was about considering his immobility. It was in his first game, and he's not been great in openers, the last three openers. I covered with the Jets and the points, but I will say, I thought, Aaron overall, his mindset, he said this, I am here to elevate others. And that I'm impressed with. Yeah, especially with that defense, which if they were going to be good, it was going to have to be a top five defense. They got shredded today. I mean, Justin Fields looked like he was in Ohio State again. That's the best game he's ever played. Ever. Big time. He didn't miss a throw. No, didn't miss a throw. Look calm in the pocket. Was running around. He was Lamar Jackson.
26:12 He was excellent. I'm going to tell you some. There's a stat. He didn't have a single off target throw. He was great. I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, I've always been, I've always said he's a bounce around the league guy. You can't build around him. It's the first time I've ever watched him and went.
26:28 Oh, shit, you can build around Justin Fields. Yeah, I don't know what his numbers were, but if they had won the game, I would have no problem giving him player the week. You could still give it to him. He was fantastic. one thing we have to come to grips with the Rogers because it's easy to do this. Well, you got to give him that extra year after the Keele. It's not the first year after the, it's two. He's, he's Jared Goff mobility works.
26:48 He can't move. He is. He is a statue. He is a statue. He's done. Yeah. You watch Purdy, Darnold, even some guys that average mobility, he's not even close to them. So that's a big problem for him.
26:57 So some of those back shoulder, you know, or back foot throws, which he's always done, don't, the zip's not quite the same. Still got a good arm. But I thought some of those back foot throws that he had in Green Bay forever. where he could throw 98, probably 91, 92 now. So now he's smart, he's accurate with the ball. So he's still, you know, some of those, you know, balls around the line of scrimmage, get it to his guys, DK, let him run.
27:22 But, and listen, offensively, what did he account for? Four touchdowns a day, he was not. He was fine. But I did watch this thinking, like, we have to kind of embrace last year. Like, this is a new player now. Right. The Hall of Fame, I'm not saying he's Manning and Brady just purely in the pocket, but he's much closer to that than the guy that was Aaron Rogers for 15 years.
27:43 And to me, if they're going to be good, though, they have to be a top-light defense. Watching that game today, I know they pulled it off. They're still playing the Jets who probably going to end up winning six, seven games. They have no chance to be a good team. And they only average. They only averaged 2.7 yards of carry, and this has been a problem. So Najee Harris has gone. This has been a problem for Pittsburgh for about six years.
28:04 They have talented offensive linemen. They've used draft capital. pedal on their offensive line. I mean, the kid from West Virginia, the center is going to be a pro bowler, or if not already. So my take is, this is sort of a Steeler dilemma. It's not Arthur Smith's issue. Whatever it is, they don't run the ball. Well, there's a way Aaron's going to have to win. I mean, the Jets, let's be honest, we're picked for fourth. So now they may be better than that, but they were picked for fourth. But for Aaron to work, he needs a running game. And that was one of my issues is the Steelers just haven't done that in forever. Well, I got to take the L on this. I like the Iowa
28:41 kid. He clearly had a disastrous training camp. He had one carry today for negative two yards. And listen, he was a third round pick, Brees Hall, a second round pick. If you just watch Brees Hall today, you went, that's an NFL running back. Like that guy, making guys miss, making explosive plays. You should be able to find guys on the second day of the draft, second or third, did immediately impact. Now, I understand Brees has been in the league for a couple years. But the Caleb Johnson thing has been a disaster so far. And they depended on him because Jalen Warren, he really is a rotational scat back, throwing the ball a little bit, but he's by far their best back.
29:15 They can't rely on this other guy. That's right. Kenneth Gadewell was like a back-end rotational guy for the Eagles, so that they do have a starting running back issue. Well. And so, like, luckily they have some, you know, D.K., that Austin's a pretty explosive player. They have a lot of weapons in terms of, like, passing the ball, but the running
29:35 game, like you said, if Caleb Johnson, let's just say this year is a disaster for him, not a bust or anything, but he's just, year one is a negative, yeah, that's a problem. And I think they would have to start looking around. Listen, they're all in on this season. Do you trade for a running back? I think so. Watching
29:51 the game, my take was before the trade deadline, Steelers are going to look around this league, there's going to be a good running back and a bad team and they're going to give up a third or a fourth round pick. But watching this game, I'm like, listen, this Jets team, is, I mean, we thought they were a lottery team next year, a top six pick next year.
30:10 We don't know if Aaron Glenn can coach. I mean, Aaron Glenn on the defense was a mess. So I think the Steelers keep your eye on them making a move, and I don't know who that running back's going to be. Could be Breece Hall. I mean, he wants a new contract. Who knows, what if the Jets are two and four, two and five? I will say.
30:27 Give him a third round pick. Get him. Beyond Justin Fields and Bree's Hall, the left side of the offensive line. I mean, that's what they attacked. The left side of the Jets-Zone line was creating big creases, big creases. So whatever in Elijah Vera Tucker got hurt, I thought, oh, the Jets-O-Line. What a bummer. Former USC guy gets banged up a lot.
30:48 But some of those holes were substantial. So, and, you know, the thing about Justin Fields is that there are certain boxes, John. You're a former scout. If I said, there's this guy. Teammates love him. Good son. really good arm, super athletic. I mean, there's no reason
31:08 he doesn't look like this more often. I mean, we never know if a guy sees the field. Does he process stuff? I don't know. We're not there. But in terms of size, whip, movement, he also plays courageously. Like, he will collide with people.
31:24 In fact, almost to a fault, he doesn't slide. He did once today. Smartly, he slid. But there's when you, he was four and two with the Steelers last year. if you extrapolated his numbers last year, you know, he was going to be like a 95 quarterback rating guy, which is a starter in the NFL. So I think if you're a Jets fan, you had to come out of this game feeling like, hey, man, this Justin Fields, Breece Hall, Garrett Wilson, they found their left tackle, left side of the offensive line.
31:51 I'd be pretty optimistic. I mean, Miami is cooked. So, I mean, and by the way, New England offensively looked timid. Like they don't trust Drake May. If I'm the Jets, I come out of this game and I'm like, no, no, we can battle for a playoff spot. That was my big takeaway on that division. We'll watch Buffalo, Baltimore tonight.
32:10 But, I mean, New England, they don't trust rape May or they don't have the juice. But Miami is done. Yeah, Miami's got awful. I mean, he was already the first guy to get fired on all the betting markets. That thing's a lock. I mean, that team was going to suck no matter what. I mean, people playing them in joint practices were like, I'm not sure what's going on over there.
32:31 When you ever hear that, they're like, what is this? I do think really quick on Fields, one thing we don't talk about enough. And one, when I was doing your show down in L.A., I was talking with some of your guys when we were getting coffee. They're like, what's something that if you could do it over again, you would have done differently? And I said, the one thing I've learned, and I think this carries over to, you know, in our business, work with a bunch of different people is the power of character. And when you are a quarterback, I mean, all the best quarterbacks in the NFL,
32:58 their character is pretty elite. Yeah. I mean, when you look at this group of guys, Fields got replaced in Chicago, and then the situation last year in Pittsburgh handled himself, I mean, incredibly well. Yes. I mean, Russell, this started leaking stuff immediately when the season ended about Arthur Smith and pointing the figure. I've never heard a peep from Justin Fields or his people. Never heard a beep.
33:19 And you just watched the way the guy's characters. Everyone has ever had high things or good things to say about him. Even when Ryan Poles traded him, he's like, you know, I felt like I owed him something. what a good guy he is. Yeah. I've been blown away. I didn't think he was a good enough passer. And today, whatever they're doing, just calmed him down a little bit.
33:35 Because he's already always had the arm. I think sometimes touch. A lot of people thought, like, when he got in the pocket, he would get, he just struggled to fluidly read defenses in terms of, like, would just, it happens to a lot of guys. Sam, that was a knock on Sam Donald. Sometimes you get to a place where people believe in you and you can just play instead of think, you know? And I saw a guy at a.
33:58 day that was just kind of playing. And it looked very fluid a lot like he did in college because his athletic and just physical tools are pretty elite. He had the best physical tools of the group. Like Trevor Lawrence went number one. He had better physical tools than Trevor Lawrence. Listen, of the six boxes you check, size, movement, quality guy, arm, four of them, he's like an A.
34:22 So, I mean, to me, and I always said this, Baker and Sam Darnold, they check too many boxes to be busts. Justin Fields arguably checks more. So I was really happy for him. Today, he was fun to watch. Speak it. Let's talk Miami. We're not going to talk too much.
34:37 Colts beat him 33 to 8. Okay, first of all, I've been saying this for years. I like the Colts roster. They can't get the quarterback right. When you watched the roster of Miami today, against the roster of the Colts, I'm not sure how many dolphins could start for Indy.
34:55 The Taree Kill thing is done. Mike McDaniel, but I won't blame him entirely. When you have Tua as a quarterback, there's two things you have to have, a good old line and a backup quarterback, and they don't. So I think it's Chris Greer's the general manager. A lot of this heats on him. It's not a good enough. He's been atrocious. Yeah, he's been atrocious.
35:13 I mean, you have to have a good old line with Tua. You have to have a good old line with Jared Gough. And so, I mean, Daniel Jones went seven for seven on drives, never been done, said that Red Zone said, not since 1991. They couldn't find it. So this goes back to Shane Steichen. There's two big takeaways. Miami's done. The second one is here's Steichen taking Daniel Jones. And I don't think Daniel's a franchise guy. But if what I watch today in that division, they could be they could battle for the division. I'll start with Indy on this one. One, I think Anthony Richardson's starting career was over. I've said at the moment they
35:57 signed Daniel Jones. That thing was, he was in major trouble. The Dolphin secondary is on paper could be one of the worst in the NFL. I mean, their corners are atrocious. And the one thing, the Colts, you know, I think we underplay their weapons because their quarterback play is good. Pittman's a good player. Tyler Warren was a top 15 pick.
36:17 Could have been a top 10 pick. You know, the Jonathan Taylor, they have a high-end run game. Like, they have legitimate offensive weapons. Same with their offensive line is good. But I would say this about Miami. That franchise is in absolute turmoil. And when Mike McDaniel gets fired, I have a hard time seeing their owner just hiring some other random coordinator. Like, he's tried it.
36:37 It hasn't worked. I put this out on Twitter today. I've been thinking about this. I think he's going to go after a big name. And last year, Ben Johnson would have fallen under a big name. I don't even think that guy's going to exist this year. Who's the Mike Vrable of this class? I'm sure he's only Belichick.
36:51 I don't know if you follow that story. Your boy broke it. It's not looking great. But I'd say Kirby Smart, Lane Kiffin, Ryan Day, he's going to go after some big name college guys who maybe just go, you know what, I'm over the S&IL thing. What about Belichick? Got a place in Jupiter, doesn't he? I mean, Miami loves sex appeal. All their teams do.
37:13 Even the heat. But does Bill have sex appeal in 2020? Well, I will tell you this. I don't think he's built for college. I said this before. He's not. He and Mike Lombardi, their NFL goals. guys. I mean, he can't, he can't draft. How can he recruit? I don't know. I don't think Belichick's
37:32 crazy there. The one thing, if the owner was interested, which, which is weird, because Miami actually had some success against Bill, but obviously he had a front row seat of watching Bill in his division forever. Bill would have to be pretty intrigued if the owner wanted him, because he'd get to play the Patriots. That's right. Which he clearly despises. So yeah, maybe, I just think he's going to go after a big name. I can't see him going after whoever the hot coordinator is for the Broncos or the Texans or whatever, but they are
38:03 going to be really, really bad. They have no shot. I mean, today, Tua a couple times, even before the game really got to, is like forcing balls. I mean, if he plays bad, they will get blown out no matter who they play. Well, good team, average team. If he's off, they are screwed. Yeah, and I think you have to
38:19 clean out the building. I think Tua's got a lot of character. I like him, but there's nothing about this team I like. And again, I think there's a gap between the best GMs and the worst. And I just don't think they're a well-run operation. Miami fans are so funny. They get so angry when you're critical. And it's like, guys, you can put the pom-poms down.
38:41 They don't draft well. They overspend in free agency. The Tyreek Hill thing. I mean, when Andy Reid moves off somebody when you have Mahomes, it's pretty good sign. It's coming with baggage. There's stuff behind the scenes you don't. and Tyreek struggled, you know, with personal stuff. I just, there's nothing about Miami right now other than, like, Tua's character.
39:02 There's nothing I like. Okay, let's go back to what you said, though. If you're the owner, would you be interested in Belichick knowing that he clearly, I mean, he's proven this now in, it's just his way, the highway, he's not listening to anybody. He's just bringing in his people. He basically just hand bill the keys for, like the one thing you watch Pete Carroll today, like he's still got a lot of juice. Yes.
39:21 Pete would have been, Pete could have coached in college, could have coached. and the pros. Like he's, he feels more like he's 55. You watch Bill, he feels a little old. He feels really grumpy. I mean, he's always been grumpy. He's extra grumpy. I mean, the resentment and the grudge he's holding on the craft from like three, Bill, you went four
39:38 and 12. Andy Reid got fired as well. Same record. I mean, 10 years ago. It's the NFL. It happens. Right. I mean, Tom Landry got fired. Welcome to pro football. Are you that arrogant to think that you were just untouchable for life? But he is. And, you know, the owner, Miami, maybe he's just
39:54 that desperate because that franchise is just, I make a lot of fun about the Jacksonville Jags. They got more juice right now in the Dolphins. Oh, God, yeah. You can argue the dolphins are the least amount of juice in the league, a team that if they're just never on TV and you never watch, you don't feel like you're missing anything. And you know what? I'm happy for Chris Ballard, who I know a little bit, because it's sad to say there was a lot of things the last couple of years that weren't discussed publicly, but privately in the
40:19 building Jim Mersey was creating chaos. his daughters now, I think, will be less intrusive, less impulsive. I think you stay would, I think if this team could win eight or nine games, sneak in is it maybe a wild card team. I mean, again, and Daniel Jones will have a market. I mean, good God, today, up and down the field. So it's just one of those things where I think Chris Bowler's been on the ropes there for years. but when Andrew Luck retired, he found Carson Wentz.
40:53 He found Philip Rivers. They bailed water. They were viable. They were fun to watch. Getting Daniel Jones after today looked like, wow. I mean, it looked a little like a more athletic Philip Rivers. You know you don't have a great player, but you have a guy that can pick up first downs. He took a shot today to the head, scrambling off the right.
41:14 Daniel Jones decision. He can move. He's a good athlete. No question. Okay. Let's, here's another game I want to talk about. So I thought New England would be the easiest double your win total. Raiders beat New England 20 to 13.
41:33 First of all, I had a GM in the NFL text me and say, man are the Patriots slow and deliberate on offense? And I texted back, I don't know if they trust Drake mate. Now, they don't have a ton of juice. I mean, Jacoby Myers should be a patriot, not a raider. But I will say this, and we've talked about this before, about Gino Smith. If you give Gino a little time, and if you give Gino Smith a run game, Gino can sit in the pocket.
42:04 I thought Gino Smith made about four, five, six throws today, big time throws, and he's not my favorite quarterback, but I looked at the Raiders coaching. To your point, I looked at the energy of the staff. The Raiders are going to beat teams in their division. Yeah, I mean, I got to give Chip credit. He schemes some passes today where some guys were beelining across the field and Gino just let a rip. You're like, damn, that was a good-looking play.
42:30 He had Bowers. I mean, he schemes some really good plays. Did you get a chance at all to read some of Ty Dunn's article on Ryan Poles and the Bears? Oh, Jesus. Yeah, well, I will say this in defense of Ryan Poles on one guy. in that article it made him it came off like Ryan Poles and hated Drake May.
42:51 I thought he couldn't play. I thought there were times a day at Drake May went, ugh, this is a little off. Floating a couple balls. You know, like you said, Josh, not trusting him. I felt, I know his numbers don't look terrible.
43:02 I did not think he would look great. I did not. Now, if you want to defend him, you'd go, well, who's he passing to? Bouté, the dude from LSU's best receiver. You know, Hunter Henry, this isn't exactly gronk. Edelman, West Walker, and Randy Moss.
43:16 But I thought today was like, we got a long way to go. You know, someone that picked the Patriots to make the playoffs. Part of it was I thought Josh McDaniels, Drake May would be good. I was like, I'm not seeing it. Let me defend them. Is there any team in the league between their free agent signings and draft? And I don't know the answer to this. But as I watched them in the first half, I thought, Jesus, Christian Gonzalez is out.
43:40 Are they starting 14 new players? I mean, honestly, even veteran coaches, I mean, I thought the Broncos looked awful offensively today. So my take was, God, New England went and got seven starters in free agency. They probably got five or six or seven draftees that are playing. And I'm thinking, and I'm not saying it as an excuse. They are starting 50% of this team is that's getting, if not starting, getting significant snaps is brand new. And by the way, starters don't play much in the preseason. So my take is, don't go crazy on New England. I'm not sure there's a team in the league that's playing 15 to 18
44:24 guys that didn't take a snap for the team last year. Yeah, and if you wanted to defend the Patriots in this individual matchup, you'd go, well, the Raiders have better players. Max Crosby best player on the field. You'd say Brock Bowers is probably second best player on the field. You know, Gino Smith today is way better player than Drake May. So, you know, I mean, they just drafted a weapon top six, but even if you say Gentie and Henderson cross each other out. Raiders have 400 yards. Yeah, so like you said, Jacoby Myers now has a couple years. Like, he's become a really, really good player.
44:57 I think we think about it like three years ago, the kind of little afterthought guy on the Patriots. He's a, I don't know if he's a, he's not like Jamar Chase or anything, but this is a, he had eight catches today for 97 yards. He's going to have enormous numbers this year playing with Chip and Brock Bowers. So yeah, I mean, the Raiders is just a better team. Yeah. You know, now, I thought the paths with their schedule, but I'm telling you, I was nervous watching Drake May thinking, is this guy a franchise quarterback?
45:19 Because we've talked over and over about that group, the six guys. Now, Caleb, JJ play tomorrow. We'll see how they look. You know, Pennix. If you watch them, you go, this guy's an NFL player. How good is he? What's his ceiling? Jaden Daniels is a star.
45:33 I mean, he's an excellent elite player. Not all these guys are going to hit. Some of them are going to not be on the team with their second contract. Yeah. We've seen a lot of these guys, the Caney Pickets, the Mack Joneses, you know, the Trey Lances. We see, they go all over the place. That's most NFL players. Even Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, who have resurrected their career, think how long it took
45:52 them to figure it out. So some of these guys are not going to work. And we just thought, because Bray Bull, Josh McDaniels, well, what if it doesn't? I mean, the Raiders have the better quarterback, a Super Bowl winning coach, the better left tackle, the star offensive weapon. Gino Smith went 24 of 34 for 362 yards in rain on the road. That's pretty much an indictment. And I think, and we know Vrable can coach, my take is New England is breaking in half their roster.
46:27 You know what I wrote down is for a long time. And listen, a lot of people make fun of Mark and I get it. He has tried. He hired Gruden. He gave 10 years 100 million. it backfired in his face. He hired Josh McDaniels. People forget the 49ers wanted Josh McDaniels.
46:45 He turned them down and they got Kyle Shanahan. Like they would have gladly hired Josh McDaniels. It looks terrible looking back, but it's it was kind of the Colts tried to hire him. A lot of people, he had kind of changed the narrative on his career. Pete Carroll just made the Raiders look like the Raiders are a real franchise. Now, are they going to win 10? Are they going to win eight? I don't know.
47:03 I still think that division's so hard that we'll see how it plays out over the course of the season. But I think the Raiders getting Pete Carroll, like, how cool is that that, you know, this guy, I can't even imagine how much money he made the last six, seven years of his NFL career. Well, right. I mean, he was making $15, $20 million. He's in his 70s. He could have easily retired. This guy is addicted to football. He still looks as energetic as ever chewing that gum, those big white shoes.
47:27 What a cool moment for him. Getting a job. The Raiders is a little desperate and just kind of, I mean, kind of kicked their ass today, I thought. You know, so Chip Kelly's a friend. he was at my 60th birthday party. Chip was there with his wife. I really like Chip. And Chip Kelly, because of his NFL stuff, I always say this. He changed football. He went to Oregon. He was so dominant at college. Remember this? Midway through the second quarter, they were leading people like pack 12 teams, 42 to 10. I mean, he was on runs. He was, he was calling runs too. And Oregon fans who are as rabid as any on the West Coast were leaving games early third quarter. They were scoring 56 points. He changed the pace of college football.
48:12 Then he goes to Philadelphia, 10 and 6, 10 and 6 with B&C level quarterbacks. He and Howie Roseman, he lost the tug of war. Goes to San Francisco doesn't work. Goes to Ohio State and Ryan Daywins and Natty goes to the Raiders, Ashton Jenny, Gino Smith, Brock Bowers, Jacoby Myers, excellent left tackle. Actually, the Raiders O-Lines pretty good and Chip can coach O-Lines. They're going to be, you know, somebody said, yesterday and I apologize for not calling it out.
48:37 Somebody said, keep your eye on the Raiders. When I watched them today, I'm like, I don't know where they're going to finish, but if you told me they were going to beat the Broncos Charters and Chiefs once, would buy it today. I buy that as a stock. Chargers, week two, that's who they play next week
48:55 in, where's that game? In Vegas, that's a really good, Monday Night Football. Monday night has a double-hatter next week, which kind of sucks. But that's an excellent game. That's an excellent. Gino is, he could have moments throughout the season and he has these in Seattle where he kind of drives you nuts. But he's a fantastic story because, again, we talk about traits.
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54:49 Denver 20 at home, Titans 12. Cam Ward is not working with anything. He was under, I mean, the Broncos pass rush is as good as any in the league. From what I can tell, because Callahan can coach. know that, the offensive line coach. Cam Ward can move. We know he's mobile. He, there weren't just orange jerseys a second and a half after the snap all game. And he has probably the weakest wide receiving core in the league. So I thought Cam played with a lot of poise, all things considered. Bo Nicks had a rough, rough game. But not to defend my position because Denver won. And Denver's got the
55:30 much better roster. But I felt, you know, Sean Payton, remember when Russell Wilson and Sean Peyton, one of the things that drove, I don't know, it kind of, Russell Wilson didn't want to wear the armband. And Sean Peyton said, wear the arm band, reportedly. I thought Boe Nix today, they were getting to the line with like 10 seconds. Bo was struggling to get, you know, Peyton and Drew Breese said this. Peyton will push you. to the most you can handle cognitively, the most you can handle intellectually. I thought Bo Nicks today, it was almost like I wanted to say scale down the offense. This is where Russell and Sean struggled.
56:15 Sean's like, wear the armband. I need to do more. We need to run more plays. I thought today, Bo looked a little overwhelmed. Just with the sets and the motion, that was my interpretation that it's week one. Again, starters don't play much in the preseason anymore. This felt like almost a preseason game that Denver was just behind on the clock too often. Bo Nix was atrocious.
56:38 I mean, the interception he threw coming out of half after he'd already played a fourth first half. I mean, it could have gone to both the guys. I mean, he threw it a double coverage. He was awful. Colin, Sean Payton's been telling us how great this guy is, though, and how much you can handle. And every report is like, this guy's mastered the offense. And then you watch, now, I think the Titans are going to be pretty good. I don't know if they're a playoff team, but I think they are going to be in the
57:00 mix as the season goes on. Remember last year, their defense was pretty good early, but Will Levis was so bad that as the season goes on, you just kind of tap out. I do think Cam Ward, like you said, on a given pass rush, there would be orange coming from every angle of your television screen. It's like, I can't even imagine being that guy who's been playing like North Carolina and Boston College lining up and seeing that. What are you even supposed to do? It shouldn't have been as close, but Bo Nix, that's as bad of a game as you can play. And this is the thing. that defense is going to be, they're the fastest defense, clearly in the NFL. They are going to probably lead the league in sacks again.
57:38 They're probably going to be the top defense in the league again. You're a betting man right now. And they bring in Hufunga and Greenlaw and they led the league in sacks last year. Yeah. So in Greenlaw caused a fumble today. We saw how good Herbert was the other night. He's an elite player, anyone who tells you otherwise, a moron. Mahomes is incredible as well.
57:56 The quarterbacks, I mean, Gino Smith, like the quarterbacks, he's going to have to play. In some of these games, even if you have a great defense, your defense has some off games, especially on the road. You are going to need him to play a lot. Like, he has some of these games against the better players or in a playoff game. You will lose. We saw last year, Herbert had an awful game, and they got smoked. And this is still a quarterback coach league. I have no questions about their defense.
58:20 They have good offensive weapons. Like Sutton's a good player. They sign Evan Ingram. They're two running backs. JK had a good run today. Harvey's explosive player. The quarterback looked like. Like, I mean, he had to have one of the worst games in the entire league today.
58:33 But remember, last year, Bo Neck's struggle in September, about game five on he was pretty good. Again, early in September, Sean Peyton's offense, Bo doesn't take a lot of preseason snaps. One of my takeaways today watching some of these games is New England. They've got 15 new guys getting real snaps, starting or on reserves. Sean Payton, Denver. How many snaps is Bo Knicks playing in the preseason? We know Titans have a great defense. We know Jeffrey Simmons is virtually unblockable.
59:11 And I'm not defending it. I thought he looked terrible. But I know he can play because I watched last year. My takeaway watching him was Cam Ward, despite that press rush, played with a lot of poise. Bo Nix didn't play with a lot of poise. And he made a couple of terrible throat. Now, he did make a couple of beauties. But I really feel talking to Drew Breeze last year
59:35 because he would come on every two weeks in the herd. And when it comes to Sean Peyton, I mean, he just says straight out, he is going to challenge you every practice. And he is going to push you. Like he just, the minute Russell Wilson and he connected, he was done. They just oil and water. And that's a different story with Rush being done. But I think Bow Nicks will get better.
59:59 two things have happened in this league. Number one, good players don't play in the preseason. They just don't play many snaps anymore because the season's longer. So even if you do want to play a guy, I mean, you got, what are you going to play them? 20 games with a 17 regular season. The second thing, offensive coaching is more sophisticated and it's more demanding. And so that's why Justin Fields impressed me so much. He's not playing that many snaps.
01:00:27 He was great today. So I think it was a bad outing. by Bo Nix. But man, when I watch that game, I'm not, John, does Denver have a top three or four roster in the league? Oh, I think definitely. But that's the thing. Their next three games at the Colts, who just playing pretty well, the Chargers who are just going to be good, the Bengals, who, you know, divisional game, weird game,
01:00:52 but clearly that quarterback and those weapons at the Eagles, I mean, their schedules hurt. They're not just going to be able to depend on their defense, making insane plays. If they played a better, just a more season quarterback and a better offense, you can't throw multiple picks and have fumbles and win the game. I don't care who's playing. defense for you. So they got lucky that their opponent. I mean, I'm high on the Titans. They did just
01:01:13 have the number one overall pick. You know, this isn't, you know, Eddie George and Jeff Fishery walking through that door. So I think I'm a little nervous as someone that has money on them to win the division to potentially win the AFC. So it's like they got a long way to go with the quarterback. I'm with you. Defense elite speed. Offensive weapons, that little running back, it looks pretty good. But Sean told me how smart his quarterback is, how good he is on offense. Every report was like, their chemistry is elite. I don't know if I was expecting to watch Drew Brees because its style is a little different,
01:01:52 but I was expecting to see it just a much, I don't know, more in tune with the offense quarterback. And he looked like he was playing his first game in college, let alone the pros. So I want to talk about a game that wasn't fun to watch Washington 21 and the New York Giants 6. So, you know, listen, you can tell. Brian Daibol got Daniel Jones into the playoffs and won a playoff game. I think Brian Daibow can coach. I don't think he's Kevin O'Connell.
01:02:19 I don't think he's clever like Ben Johnson. But I think, I mean, Washington, Debo got a touchdown on a reverse. Washington's going to be really fun. I do think the Giants' defense is pretty special. But my take watching that today was that, Russell Wilson, there's just so many three and outs or six and outs, you're going to lose that defense. First of all, they're going to be on the field too much, so they're going to get hurt. If you don't play Jackson Dart by like week three, because this is a little bit like Tua.
01:02:54 Russell doesn't see the field. Russell's older. The offensive line could not generate guard, center guard, any openings. They could not run the ball through the middle. Scataboo's fun, but there were just no holes. Again, I, I think the receivers, I think it's Ward and neighbors are pretty special players. Their tight ends hit and miss can't really catch consistently. But my take was here, you better figure out if Jackson Dart can play because next year's draft could have six quarterbacks in the first round. I mean, listen, you know Jackson Dart's going to get snaps.
01:03:29 Can you go six weeks and not play them? Yeah, you know, I think the old adage was like if you listen to the fans, you'll be sitting with them. And I think there's some true to that. Like, if Jim Harbaugh would have listened to everybody, he would have taken a wide receiver instead of Joel. Like, you've got to have conviction. And then there's the Russell Wilson stuff.
01:03:46 If I was a Giants fan or just anyone watching that game, everyone's thinking to themselves, how is this, yank this guy out of the game? Right. He'd go, well, our offensive lines atrocious. We have a lot of offensive lines throughout the league aren't great. Like, you can't function with this player. I don't think we've ever seen such a precipitous drop off.
01:04:04 Not in my life. I mean, Colin, he truly, seeing him in his prime live is one of the greatest players I've ever seen any sport life. I've been to a lot of games in the last 15, 20 years, all sports. Never see anything like this guy in his prime. And he looks like, if he was like a 9 out of 10 in terms of playmaking, it's like a 1 out of 10 now. Doesn't move that fast. Looks very unconfident when he scrambles. It just looks bad.
01:04:29 It looks off. I gave it about the over under 3 and a half. So right around the start of October for Jackson. Jackson Dart, if you told me by the time Monday morning comes around breaking news, they told Jackson Dart is going to be this. What are we waiting on? Their schedule's hard. It's the NFL. Everything is difficult. As Sean Peyton and Bo Nix would what was like playing the Titans. I mean, what do you want me to tell you? At least I feel like Jackson gives them, it's not like Jackson's a stiff. He can move around. But the juice, you know, Malik neighbors, let's face,
01:04:55 it's got a little Terrell Owens, Des Bryant, headcase to him. You think it was bad today. It's only going to get worse as the season goes on. And that quarterback's taking terrible sacks. And I get Andrew Thomas is injured, but it's this guy. You can't function with that. And this is how the team, you lose the team. And I think he's scared. I think a coach would tell you, well, I throw him in there, loses confidence, it gets ugly. Well, your only other options have Russell Wilson go 17 to 37 and you just get your ass kick.
01:05:24 Last year, Brock Pretty was one in six against playoff teams. But his teammates love him. Teammates love Brock Purdy. Russell Wilson is not loved in any locker room he's been in. So he goes one and three. That locker room may be done. I mean, again, how would they not be out on him now? I mean, if they came out next week and at half, they've got a field goal, don't you have to consider it?
01:05:47 I think you on the, I guess, team flight, maybe they take the train. They had to be thinking on the way home. Like, what do we do? What's the point of this, right? This is a guy that was shot a couple years ago, and now it feels like it's getting worse. And his equity, you know, like Aaron Rogers, even if it was. was going weird in Pittsburgh. His equity because he's Aaron Rogers, four-time MVP, is really long, even with random players on a new team. Do you think Russell Wilson has any equity with Malik
01:06:15 neighbors or Cam Scataboo or Brian Byr? They don't care at all. So listen, I would do it now. I don't expect him to do it now, but I would be stunned if we make it to October and Russell Wilson. Now, here's the thing. Once you bench Russell Wilson, you just cut him and just pay him to go away, Because he's not going to make him the backup. No. He makes like $14 million, but I'm just saying so you just keep him around. We watched Justin Fields in Pittsburgh last year, who's four and two. He got benched for Russell.
01:06:45 We watched Justin Fields today. My takeaway is, what happened in Pittsburgh? I mean, Jesus, Justin Fields had a winning record in Pittsburgh. He looked sensational today. I mean, Russell at the end of last year in Pittsburgh was probably the worst quarterback in the league. So, listen, I understand people gravitate. It's romancing. But we have a coach in Brian Dable that refined, cleaned up Josh Allen, got Daniel Jones to win a playoff game, you know, got that Italian kid, Tommy DeVito, that, you know, is, you know, a great story, not a great player.
01:07:18 It got him to improve to the point where you're like, oh, he can play a little bit in this league. I mean, I'm watching, this is an opener. Usually offensive coaches, if there's a criticism in an opener, they give the quarterback too much. There wasn't any life to it. It wasn't creative. You could see Daibold a couple times, too, in the red zone kind of shaking his head like, it's there, man, it's there. This is what Sean Payton said.
01:07:42 He's not seeing open receivers. He just runs into sacks, too. He just kind of runs into a guy. I do think if, you know, owners take a lot of crap from meddling, if I own the Giants, I would tell Brian on the drive home, like, I don't want to see this player anymore. Our fans don't, I don't, his teammates don't. I know just because maybe he knows the offense a little bit better. Coaches always say this stuff that no one can prove. Well, he's a little better in the meeting where well, and then you see that.
01:08:12 You can get away when you're winning. It's like, well, you won the game, he made some plays. When it looks like that, no one cares about all the stuff that they can't see. Because that's really all. That's what you get paid to do. Play those 60 minutes. You watch Jaden Daniels, and I get Washington better offensively, and he's a much better player.
01:08:28 He's in a different universe that you would lose to them, 10 out of 10 times, if you had a 10 game series, simply because the quarterback, even if you played your best game, he's just so much better as a play. Russell, there's no place. Even just the basic stuff, dink and dunk, and then the playmaking is just, it doesn't exist. Yeah, and I thought in this game by the second half, a Washington defensive players, how many times can you be out in the field? I mean, listen, Terry McLaurin didn't practice a lot. So I give Washington a little pass on the opener. I took the Giants plus six and a half today, because I I thought McLaurin didn't practice much.
01:09:04 Debo's a new piece. You know, they're still, to some degree, even though it's weird, they got to the NFC championship, but to some degree with a roster, John, it's a little bit of a rebuild. This is not a stacked roster. It was the worst conference championship roster since Andrew Luck to the Colts there and got smoked by New England at 11 and 5. Remember that team where they played in the conference championship and just got the, you know what kicked out of them?
01:09:28 It's not a great roster. So I do think Washington will get better. But I do think there's a point where Russell's never been popular. He wasn't popular when he was winning. He wasn't popular in the room. He's not popular now. He's kind of disconnected. And now he's got kids.
01:09:45 He's married. Not hanging out with the young players. If they trailed 14 to nothing at half next week, I think you'd have to consider Jackson Dart enters the third quarter. I'm with you. Really quick on Washington, I understand he was a second pick. so the expectations were high. He had just been awesome in college.
01:10:05 It's watching Jane Daniels, it's crazy how good the kid is. Because obviously in the pocket, his throws, I mean, he's a very natural. And then his playmaking is what guys like Russell Wilson used to be. It's only one game, but Debo Samuel looked pretty reinvigorated. He had seven catches. He had the end around. And this is a contract year guy. Like you said, Terry McLaren's been out all training camp holding out.
01:10:26 So once as he gets going, you add McLaren with him, with Jaden. The offense could be a little more even complete than it was last year. Now, defensively, I mean, they're playing Russell Wilson, so we'll see them play better teams. But their offense might have, you know, Ertz is still making plays at an older age. So this Washington offense got a chance to be pretty good because that quarterback, he resurrected a dead friend. The franchise was dead. Dead. I mean, he resurrected the franchise. So I want to talk about, there's a couple games.
01:10:56 I don't think are worthy of great discussion. Rams beating the Texans was pretty sloppy. So Tyler Dunn is a guy that I used to bring on the herd. I still do about once, twice a year. I brought him on this podcast. He wrote a story about Ryan Poles. Did you read that story about Ryan Poles, the Bears? I read about half of it, and then I read a lot of the clips of it.
01:11:16 Yeah. And so it's pretty damning. So I'm not a huge Ryan Poles fan. I think the ownership's week. Kevin Warren hasn't, you know, hasn't proven anything. yet. I would not have given Ryan Poles a new contract. But be that as it may, he got it. The story basically says that it was rigged. He was taking Caleb Williams. He apparently thought Caleb was the best quarterback in the draft and J.J. McCarthy was second best. Okay. I understand
01:11:49 like in Caleb Williams, there's a lot of horsepower. He's got a big harm. He's sensational talent. but not and not loving Drake May. I knew people that didn't love him. Apparently, he didn't think much of Jaden Daniels, which I think's impossible. I can remember before the draft saying Jaden Daniels is going to. He's going to look like Lamar Jackson. I remember saying this five times on the air. He's going to look a lot like Lamar Jackson, but way better in the pocket early.
01:12:18 Like he was virtually can't miss. He was going to be an excellent with Cliff Kingsbury and Terry McLaurin. My thing was he's skinny. I hope he doesn't get hurt, but he's going to be wildly productive. He's just really, really talented. Now, he's better than I thought on third down. He's better closing drives. I've never seen a rookie quarterback that poised.
01:12:36 I mean, if you'd never seen him before, you'd think he's a seven-year player. I think he's better than Andrew Luck was as a rookie. I think he makes fewer mistakes. I think he moves better. I think he's better than Andrew Luck, who I thought was sensational, 11 and 5 of the Colts with a terrible roster. And I think he's better than that. But it comes across really dysfunctional.
01:12:58 And some of the reports about how their words, not mine, dumb down the offense, ready, set hike, basically. I mean, I have never gone into a Monday night football game in week one and been more interested in a team that may finish in fourth place. I mean, you have to watch the Vikings tomorrow. I thought that game would be about J.J. McCarthy. After that article, it's about Caleb Williams. Do you think there's a chance that he's awful, that it doesn't work?
01:13:36 Yeah, I mean, I think there is 100% a chance that he is one of the worst quarterbacks in his class. I mean, I think it has a chance to get very, very weird. Some of it has to do in that article about the personality, right? A big part of that was he wouldn't listen to the coach. He would storm off. Then I think the people pushing back would go, well, it's a bunch of people that got fired. It's clear that all the offensive coaches that got fired are saying this. The thing that I heard from my scouting buddies last year that was undefensible is you go, well, it's easy to take Caleb Williams.
01:14:06 No one will give you shit because the media, and rightfully so said he was one of the best prospects in recent memory. His job is not the media. His job is to what's best for the Bears. Remember Adam Peters when he had the second pick and he knew Caleb was going one, which you shouldn't. I mean, he brought in every single quarterback. Yes. And he took him to top golf and people freaked. It said, how could you bring in them all?
01:14:27 And he just let them all be. And he kind of judged them how they interacted. You don't think he was leading Jayden Daniels the whole time. But part of doing your due diligence is, hey, this is a great quarterback draft class. So I'm bringing Bo Nicks, Drake, May, JJ, and Pettix with Jaden and just letting the cream kind of rise with some other players. And he took a ton of it. That's his job. They never brought in another quarterback.
01:14:48 And even in this article, it said, even if you cut it in half, how do you not bring in Jaden Daniels and either Drake May or J.J. McCarthy then? To your building. You get 30 people allowed to bring in, and they didn't bring them in. They didn't work out any of these guys. There was no disputing that he was dead set on Caleb Williams. That's where I think some of their freaking out about the VR stuff, you know, him using virtual reality, Jaden Daniels. And Ryan Paul's freaking out is, we need to get Caleb on that, we'll buy it.
01:15:18 And they're like, what if he doesn't use it? And the coaches are like, we'll make them use it. This is a mom and pop shop. This is not a high-level operation. And while Ryan Poles came highly recommended from Andy and the Chiefs, he has felt a little arrogant. I mean, you go back to his comment when he got the job about, tell the Packers, we're going to start dominating this division.
01:15:37 It's like, no one, you think Andy Reid's never talked like that in 30 years being a head coach in the league. Like, come on, man, just pump the brakes. He drafted. So then you watched last year. Yeah, he drafted Veles Jones in the third round, could not track the ball in three years at USC. It was understood he could not track the ball. Traded a second round pick for Chase Claypool. I mean, once upon time. He's made some atrocious
01:15:58 moves. Listen, the trade for Caleb Williams to get the number one pick was fantastic with the Panthers. And even taking Caleb Williams is a defensible move, but not bringing in the other guys and getting to know the people. What has Washington said from the moment they have got Jane Daniels? Obviously on the field, my mom can tell you he's a good player. we freaking love the guy. Like, how could this guy be such a hot? It was what they used to say about Lux. Like, everyone just loves this human being.
01:16:26 Every question I see about Caleb Williams is like, yeah, he holds on the ball a little bit, but like, what's his deal? Whenever I hear, what's his deal at quarterback? I'm out. Yeah, I'm out. And there have been enough people. That's not something you overcome, right? Looking back, like, what did Baker really butt heads with?
01:16:41 Odell Beckham? I think as time went on, maybe it wasn't all Baker, but he was just in a weird spot. This has been, there have been some question marks going back with Caleb in college. You know, and the dad, I mean, listen, I understand. I don't either had a son with the talent of Caleb. Hopefully my son's talented. We'll find out. But, like, the dad won equity.
01:17:00 It's just been a lot of noise. And when I watched Jaden Daniels, no noise. Hell, J.J. McCarthy, he's been injured, not his fault. But there's no noise about the guy. Yeah. There's just way too much noise with this guy. You can't tell me it's all other people. Like, eventually Caleb has to take some blame.
01:17:15 And I'm telling you, we were together when this happened. It was weird extending the backup quarterback when they did not need to. It would not be weird if Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen was your quarterback. And you just went, hey, this great value. We love this kid. We want to have an asset. You have this quarterback, which is clearly pretty, I would just say there's a lot going on. You would want to quiet everything.
01:17:37 So for them to do that, I think part of this article, too, was like, Ben Johnson's gained more and more juice. You're telling me the GM did that. if he loves the starting quarterback. And Ben Johnson, when he signed Tyson Bayton, remember some of the comments at a press conference? He's like, man, this guy is super sharp. This guy's a worker in the building. Yeah. It's like you shouldn't probably say that.
01:17:58 I mean, when Sean Payton signed Jared Stidham, I think it was when he had Russell, he's like, oh, he's a good player. And that was it out of respect to Russell. Like this guy was like, he's the sharpest guy. And it's unbelievable how good he's been. That to me was a message. People say things for a reason in the NFL. And, you know, all I know is Vikings Bears has these guys could be tied for fourth. It's going to get a monster number.
01:18:26 That's all I know. It's going to get a lot of juice. I do think it's really hard to overcome. You know, you saw it like you said today about Sam Darnold. It's kind of a natural movement form to hold the ball low, right, and bring it up. And that was it undoing. It's been something that he's always battled with. when you hold onto the ball, it's not often like, hey, this guy had a problem.
01:18:46 He just held on to the ball forever. And then five years into his career, it's like, well, he just gets rid of it like he's Peyton or Tom now. That's not usually the way it works, right? You watch Jane Daniels, he can get rid of it in a heartbeat. Part of it can get rid of it really quick if it's like, it just, it comes natural or it doesn't. I do think there's no one just, no one's ever argued about like Caleb Williams' arm,
01:19:04 why he's got an explosive arm. He just holds onto the ball for a long time. So even if we just talk strictly football, none of the off-the-field stuff, That is just a fundamental, I would say, that's not the way that Ben Johnson has ever wanted to operate. His success came from a guy that got rid of the ball very quickly. Everything with Ben Johnson's offense and Kyle's is timing. They are timing offenses. Caleb doesn't play on time.
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