The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Sharp or Square - NFL Week 15 Bets: Falcons-Buccaneers, Bills-Patriots, Lions-Rams, Packers-Broncos, Vikings-Cowboys and more

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

NFL betting expert Chad Millman is joined by professional sports gambler Simon Hunter to discuss the latest NFL spreads. Together the duo provide initial betting picks and predictions for NFL Week 15, after the successful launch of their free SHARP OR SQUARE PRO FOOTBALL PICK 'EM CONTEST at https://sharporsquare.thevolume.com/ where the audience competes for a fabulous grand prize trip to South Florida, courtesy of our sponsor Hard Rock Bet! Today's betting action starts with Thursday Night Football as Kirk Cousins and the reeling Atlanta Falcons visit Florida to take on Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Bucs. We also hear about a huge matchup pitting Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills against Drake Maye and the New England Patriots. Will the Kansas City Chiefs miss the playoffs? We'll know better after Patrick Mahomes leads his team against the LA Chargers and an injured Justin Herbert. Simon and Chad debate Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens against Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals, Shedeur Sanders and the Cleveland Browns against Caleb Williams and the favored Chicago Bears, plus Jared Goff and the Lions in a NFC showdown vs. Matt Stafford and the LA Rams. And of course we hear about the Green Bay Packers visiting Bo Nix and the Denver Broncos, and the Miami Dolphins on Monday Night Football against Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Will our hosts find more winners for our audience? Find out on this week's episode! #Volume 0:03:00 - START 0:07:50 - ATLANTA FALCONS VS. TAMPA BAY BUCS 0:10:20 - LA CHARGERS VS. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS 0:17:45 - NEW YORK JETS VS. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS 0:22:20 - BUFFALO BILLS VS. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS 0:28:03 - ARIZONA CARDINALS VS. HOUSTON TEXANS 0:36:40 - BALTIMORE RAVENS VS. CINCINNATI BENGALS 0:39:35 - CLEVELAND BROWNS VS. CHICAGO BEARS 0:43:35 - LAS VEGAS RAIDERS VS. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES 0:51:20 - WASHINGTON COMMANDERS VS. NEW YORK GIANTS 0:52:55 - DETROIT LIONS VS. LA RAMS 1:00:50 - CAROLINA PANTHERS VS. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS  1:04:40 - GREEN BAY PACKERS VS. DENVER BRONCOS  1:08:00 - TENNESSEE TITANS VS. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS  1:09:28 - INDIANAPOLIS COLTS VS. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS  1:13:24 - MINNESOTA VIKINGS VS. DALLAS COWBOYS 1:08:00 - MIAMI DOLPHINS VS. PITTSBURGH STEELERS -- All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet  Subscribe to Sharp or Square for gambling advice, best bets, and predictions from sports betting experts Chad Millman and Simon Hunter. Follow on all platforms: https://www.instagram.com/sharporsquare/ https://x.com/SharporSquare_See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I am Chad Millman. I am joined as always by my co-host, my companion, my compadre, professional better, Simon Hunter. Hello, Simon. Chad, how we doing, buddy? Well, listen, I really want to ask how you're doing, because I was on the Eagles last night and it was excruciating, but I know how I felt when the Bears played valiantly and didn't win,

if the bears had played terribly and given it away, I know how I would feel. So this is a safe space. Unload, my friend. It's not a safe space. This is what the people want. They love miserable Eagles fans. I know you sick bastards.

I get it, though. I mean, we've been in on these primetime games, and, like, you know, they're zooming in on these Eagles fans who are just dying like I am, and I get it. you should bask in our misery. We just won the Super Bowl. But yeah, just an awful, awful experience, especially if you had money on the Eagles.

They just dominated that game in every way. Just couldn't stop doing whatever they wanted running the ball defensively. The only weakness was Jalen Hertz, who just had a total meltdown of a game, four picks. And, yeah, like we joked. Obviously, I said Jalen Hertz is the same. second best quarterback in the NFL. I still stand by it, but heard a lot of noise last night because he had a meltdown terrible game. And, you know, I still think the read on it was correct.

I mean, Herbert 12 of 26, 139 yards. And he just only can hold the ball in one hand anytime he's scrambling. They were punching out it every time. Like they just were, the charges were dying to lose that game. And Hurts just couldn't help themselves. So incredible game professionals. I was with a lot of pros who loved the Chargers. I think a lot of books went for two and a half all the down to one by kick. Yeah. And they're all over the under. And they needed every bit of those four picks to get that under and that one on the Chargers. So yeah, that was a that was a sharp game and just a brutal, brutal loss as an Eagles fan. So eating there right now and even worse, I told you, HBO right now has a basically in-season hard knocks. And I can't watch it because it's just been

two weeks of hell for Eagles. We were eight and two head into the hard knocks. We're now eight and five losing three straight games, and it's just, it's as low as it gets. But the Cowboys are breathing down their neck, so it's going to be really interesting in the next four weeks. Why can't they block up any scheme to get Sequin Barclay, any, any freedom on any of these interior runs? They're out Lane Johnson for multiple weeks, and they've lost those three games. He's been out. So talk all the time. He's very important, but, you know, they were winning coin flip games.

they lost Dallas, a coin flip game, they should have won. They lost this Chargers game at a coin flip game. They probably should have won. So it's like, once again, Eagles do have a lot of problems, but they could easily be sitting here 11 and 3, and it's like, you know, what are you going to bitch about? So it's football. It's just, it's these coin flip games, and they're just not hitting right now.

I just need to sleep, honestly. I'm just, watch that game work through the night. And I try to focus on my work, but there isn't a minute that goes by. You're just like, why did they just throw that pass that overtime? Like, that pick was just so egregious. It's just, yeah, I just need to move on from that game. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to yet.

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Who knows who's going to be the coach? Who knows who's going to be the GM? Who knows who's going to be the quarterback? They're four-point dogs to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. who ever since Baker Mayfield kind of got injured. They have not been the same team. They're seven to six, still in first place in the NFC South, but the Panthers are coming for them.

Meanwhile, the wise guys are just clinging to the Falcons by their fingernails. This line has moved from five and a half to four and a half to four at Hard Rock. even after getting blown out with betting the Falcons against Seattle with no Drake London. Drake-O-London is not expected to play this week either. It doesn't make any sense to me. I know you don't want to bet the box,

but like this team is clearly playing one-dimensional football in Atlanta on a losing team without Drake London. Why does everyone keep betting the Falcons? Yeah, I think that's just their models maybe keep thinking the Falcons are honorable. rallied and underrated. And we've been talking about it.

I just, anytime you win with Kirk, it feels you've gotten away with one this year, he just looks so bad. And taking away the number one target on this offense, he just really killed their offense. So, yeah,

this bucks line, it's fishy. I honestly can't get why it's going the other way because they might be getting back, Worth and Mike Evans. And, you know, that's a huge deal to this offense.

So I'll take an early position here, especially now at the Ford Hard Rock. I'll grab them on this buck side on the Thursday night, own game. And Atlanta, you know, last week, they just got absolutely bullied in a lot of ways. And, you know, with Kirk in there, it just feels like on a short week playing that type of physical game they just had with Seattle, couldn't ask for a worse spot for them going against this Bucks team that just had a horrible, horrible loss. So you expect Baker and the guys on this Bucs team to bounce back in a big way. Spence against his poorest Atlanta team, look, we've talked

about. They're just offensively, you would think with Robinson, but it'll take huge. advantage of this buck's run defense but you've seen it teams have just stacked the boxes they're like beat us with kirk you're not beating us with bejohn so i'll be on the chalk side here on the thursday night on the books well it hasn't heard us betting chalk Thursday nights historically in these home division games um short week uh team was something to play for for sure in Tampa bay los angeles chargers who should have lost last night they should be eight and five visiting the Kansas City Chiefs six and seven

clinging to playoff hopes look that Chargers team you almost feel bad for Justin Herbert they're winning by guts and guile they're winning by the other team making mistakes they're winning on fluky plays

lucky penalties calls that game was probably over they were going a fourth down deep in their own territory with less than two minutes left and Quinion Mitchell gets called for a pass interference on a third and 10

and all of a sudden after that it gives the Chargers a little bit of life. Then Justin Herbert does running these RPO's and running around the edge and all of a sudden they get back in a position to tie the game and they win the game with Cameron Dicker oh by the way that Jake Elliott miss

after the interception. Oh the Chadd. Our one touchdown pass in the first is a, happens to be a holding call. Holding call. I don't even get, I don't, that's why I don't want to go to the refs because I could just spend five minutes of wasted time. I can't get around bad the refs are. It's just so terrible.

I got, well, you know what? You know what? I want to get to the rest, but I want to wait until the Raiders game because I have a lot of thoughts on the, the internet crefuffle going around about was this game rigged and all the people who lost money on the Raiders covering against the Broncos at seven and a half and eight and a half.

I got a lot of thoughts on this. We'll share them when we get to the Raiders. I have thoughts on how to fix it. We'll have a long conversation about it. Kansas City as a three or better favorite at home with Patrick Mahomes in the division about 47% against the spread. And that was when they were good. And that was when they were good. They don't have downfield threats.

They don't really have an explosive running game. Right now, Patrick Mahomes is their only offensive weapon. who was reliable. They're playing without defensive tackles, and then this week another guy got hurt. So I don't want to better neither of these teams because neither of them are very reliable. But I would lean chargers.

If someone said to me, I'm in a pick every game, I would pick the chargers. Interesting. Yeah, I really like the Chiefs again. Like last week, I was on them, but everything we talked about, just them losing, their offensive tackles. They just didn't make sense. And we took before the show,

the pros had bet that up to five. So every week, the professionals are hitting this chief side. I feel like this is the week. Everyone is just going to leave this chief team for dead, aren't they? No one's going to believe in this chief team now. They're just totally over. I think they're 50 to 1 for,

or maybe it's gone up. It might be 60 to 1 now for them in Super Bowl, which makes sense, right? They're just the path for them to make the playoffs. 16%. Not even that. in real life, it feels like it's like 5%. It's just they have to be what they were in the past,

which is a team that wins close games. And this year, they're just not that team. I mean, Andy Reid, it's coaching male practice. Like, you had that Houston game. Like your defense in the second half, I think CJ was 0 for 7 at that point. You're just dominating. I went to, honest to God,

I had the Texans in that game. You and I were not on the same side in that game. I had the Texans. I went to bed at halftime. I'm like, after, that first drive, like Chris Jones started to dominate. I'm like, I'm done. I'm not wasting my time on this. Yeah, it was just, it lined up and then just, you know,

Andy Reid following my home to letting him go for that play and just all very bizarre. And that totally flipped the game, right? They got a touchdown. I think CJ had that exact turnover on downs and, you know, props to Houston. But this Chief's team, we've had to hit a point where they're going to start coming back with value on the other side. I mean, this is just insane how many weeks in a row they've let down. So I feel like match-up-wise, this is a great match for them.

You have Herbert outdoors. And once again, 10 degrees, like we're in a deep cold. A lot of these games we're about to talk about today. They're all going to be a freezing temperature. It doesn't matter if they're at 1 o'clock or 4 o'clock anywhere. From New Jersey to Kansas City, it's all going to be like 10 degrees this upcoming weekend. So Herbert outside, one-handed, I feel like, okay, they got away with it indoors in that environment. He was horrible.

I gave you the stats. He was horrible. passing, one pick, two fumbles, he lost one of the fumbles. Like he just was bad overall in the game, but he got away with it because, you know, he's a great athlete with his legs and the just the Eagles gave it to him. So this has to be a spot you back to chiefs and they cover and win. Like, if they don't win this game, 20 to three, just absolutely dominate with Spag's defense. I wouldn't be shocked because they've been so bad this year.

But the Chiefs feels like they've had everything going wrong these last couple weeks. It's going to turn around for them. They're just, like you said, as bad as they've been. looked, it's not really on my homes. He's played pretty well. He's just trying to survive how bad this offense is right now. So I think they bounce back here, but I get it. You're just, you're like everyone else. It's hard to be confident in this Chiefs team. They've just been awful these last five weeks. They just can't seem to get the ball down the field, like any of the magic they had. Forget about any refs issues. Forget about sort of the close game issues or the regression

to the mean on what happened last year, they're just offensively challenged. They don't have the weapons. And so their offense is limited to just whatever Mahomes can do in the shortest amount of time possible because he has no protection. And so they can't get the ball downfield.

And even when they can, the receivers aren't that great. So... They got a little bit of the drops right now. Like that game, he was getting the guys the ball as they were just dropping it. Like Kelsey, you know, people are killing the guy because he's adding these horrible drops. And I get it, but it's like, what do you want my homes to do?

He always goes to Kelsey on third downs. Right. So he's going to live and die with it. Like, that pick, that's totally on Kelsey. He knows that. And, you know, people are killing Kelsey right now. And, you know, the whole, I mean, I don't know where you're at with it, but I agree. Gronk is probably the better athlete, but there's a tight end.

I think Kelsey's had the longer career. They're at the same age. Gronka's been retired for like five years. So as much you want to kill Kelsey, he's an old man, he's still doing it. You know, he's obviously lost a step here. Would that pick, I don't if that's on age. That's just a fluke play. But, yeah, it's, once again, the vibes could not be like, like the Eagles,

it could not be lower for this Chief's team. Is this not rock bottom? Like, if this is rock bottom to me. It could be, there's always those games that are the buy low, sell high, right? And we've got a couple of them on the slate today. The Chargers coming off that win the way they did and the Chiefs coming off the loss the way they did. Sure. We could go over time, too, for the Chargers.

Could easily be. Could easily a buy low. be a buy low sell high so all right maybe you're turning my head i'll get you because there's a lot of cold weather games where it's like that's that's going to be an absolute you have a one-handed qb in 10 degree weather that is who could barely play in like basically indoors yeah you know and control the fire the ball couldn't grip the ball it's crazy the new york jets visiting the jacksonville jaguas there are 11 and a half point of favorite, Simon, the Jaguars are, in case there's any confusion about who would be the favorites

in this game. The AFC South leading Jacksonville, Jaguars, interestingly, the line has moved from 12.5 to 11.5. As you can imagine, in a game between the trash team that just broke our hearts and the division leading team that also just helped us win. I spent yesterday digging into the leads desperately looking for ways to find, to bet the trash team. I'm surprised the number has moved in their direction already because I really couldn't get behind anything until I had a better understanding of who the quarterback was going to be. Tyrod Taylor left the game against the Dolphins with a groin injury. Justin Fields was already out of the game and not on the roster that day or not in uniform that day because of an injured knee.

That meant Brady Cook, undrafted free agent from Missouri, who came in, fumbled his first snap through a pick in the red zone at the end of the first half. He's the only guy we know for sure can play quarterback. I'm not inclined to bet against the Jags if I don't know who the Jets quarterback was going to be. Yeah, right. That's a tough part here.

I wanted to be on the Jets like you, But if we have to make a pick day in your pick pools and you know, you can't get to our Thursday show and I'm stuck here and I got to make a pick here this week as well today, I'm going to end up taking the Jaguars just in case it is the backup to, you know, Taylor. But it's Fields. This is actually, I know we all, we're all out on fields, but this is technically a good, good number, right, to be on Fields against this Jaguars team.

That's just a ton of points to cover for a Jaguars team that we've talked about. They have lived up to it. They've been a really good team this year. but they usually play well against good teams and they kind of fall through against bad teams, right? That's always been their MO. So tricky line. Like I said, if I have to take it right now,

I'll take the Jaguars. But I could see talking myself into this Jets team come Sunday, but just for a few pennies, I just have no faith in that side. The real difference for the Jags has been Jacoby Myers. I know it sounds crazy to say that, but he's just completely changed that offense. He's exactly the kind of receiver

that Liam Coe needs to make everything else. else work. He makes Trevor Lawrence comfortable throwing in the middle of the field. He puts Brian Thomas Jr. on the outside so he can just go deep and not have to be the guy with alligator arms running through the middle of the field. It's just been a sort of magic little wand that has changed the game for the Jaguars and made them a more interesting team. I love that this week, I know you've done a lot of work over the last 24, 36 hours. Everyone keeps talking about how this might have been Trevor Lawrence's best game with Liam Cohn. And I keep looking at it.

And he was great. He had some great throws and did everything he was supposed to do. I think just because of the weather, I give him that. That could be true because of the elements too. I was going to say he still only completed about 55% of his past. Right, right. Yeah. And, you know, we've talked a lot about this Jags team.

And, you know, they, as much price you want to give them Myers, it's why once again, we hated the Traverse Hunter pick. Like, you can find guys like him. you can't find, you know, a guy like Mason Graham, who's just been an absolute animal for Cleveland. Like there's just, that's why you take those exact guys. I know Abdul Qarter is not lived up to the hype, right?

For the Giants, he's been really disappointing this year. And we've heard, all I've heard about what happened with him off field and all that nonsense about him getting bench. But Travis Hunter at that pick, it just will never make sense. And this GM, as much as props people are going to give him for this season, it's not like he put this team together, really, right? Did he go get the coach or did this? the owner go throw a bag of the guy.

So I, Liam Cohen, it just, we always talk about how big of a difference coaches make. You're living in there's right now. He was,

there was a reason that the bucks offered him insane amount of money to stay at the O.C. And they were so bitter when he left. So it's, it's crazy what this man has done, turn around this, this Jaguars team. And yeah,

like we said, old Jags, they always lose this game. Maybe this is the new error. So I'm going to put my money behind them just in case, it's a rookie on the road here for this Jet Team at quarterback. Duval. Duval.

Duval. Duval. Buffalo at New England. New England is a one-point underdog on the road, or at home right now. Winners of 10 straight, look, all the conversations are that this is a fraudulent winning streak. They've only been three winning teams in this 10-game streak. Not their problem. You've got to beat who's in front of you, right?

Like, they can't help it what the schedule is. Good for them that they went out and hired Mike Frable. We just talked about how important the coaches are. They went out and got the best coach available, especially the best coach available for their roster with a quarterback who is developing into his second year. He is one of the reasons why Drake May has turned into the MVP candidate, along with Matthew Stafford.

So what's interesting in this game is that the money or the tickets, at least, are moving this from one and a half to one. I kind of want to be on the bills, but I want to see where the money is going, and I want to see where this ends up before I rush into it, because if I can get the bills as an underdog or get this game at pick, what am I rushing for? Josh Allen.

Josh Allen. You ever get nervous before games? Sometimes. What do you do if you get nervous? Put some soft music on, then I throw up. Yeah, a fun game that could flip, and people can spot now these teams miles away, and everyone can agree on it.

Like we did with the Patriots, right? I feel like everyone talked about it for four or five months. how they had an easy schedule. You expect Drake me to take that next step. But no one foresaw this, a legit number one seat. And that's what's so interesting here, Chaz. I've talked to some pros, and they are on this Patriot side. They really like this Patriot side.

And for early money here, I know some guys who have taken positions on the one and a half. Most of I've talked to, they've taken the seven and a half, right? They've just put it into teasers. Like, this is, to me, is why this number could come down to a pick, which we have not had this season, right? I feel like we've not had a game. I don't think so. it's always the plus one plus one and a half. Or half even.

I want to be on the bills. I'm trying to be patient to see if it does flip it. I can just take a position on them as a dog here because I think the public might come in and join them, the professionals on the Patriots. I just, you know,

as much as crap we want to give this Patriots team how easy of schedule they've had, this Bill's team has not done anything to make you super confident about them other than the fact that they have Josh Allen. Like that's just, that's where it starts and ends for me in this game where I really,

when I broke it down and looked more into it. it's like this is actually a pretty good matchup for this Patriots team. Like I could see how these professionals are taking a position because it's like they're able to put the blinders on here with Josh Allen. I can't do that. The fact that Josh already lost to them this year, you're in a spot now where I've been talking about this cold. It is common people.

There is going to be a deep freeze and this is another game. Up in New England it's going to be cold, cold, cold. So that means it's going to be a ton of Josh Allen running the bull and a ton of cook, which on the flip side, they have their own, you know, little version of Josh Allen

with May who can run the ball. I just don't think they're going to play that way offensively. I think they're still going to try to be pushing the ball down field. So really, really interesting to see what McDaniels does with May here and then Justin's he'll make in this game

because it could be cold, could be really windy and freezing and a little bit of snow. And I just, once again, lines up for Josh town, he's played in these exact spots a lot. And he tends to thrive in it.

So I love, love this game. This is one of my favorite games just because it's so split between professionals. And I'm interested in what the public does with it. Because right now, like you said, the tickets, the money, it's so even. We've not really seen the public tickets stand here. I'm hoping they come on the Patriot side. So maybe we get the Buffalo Bills as a dog here. Yeah.

The Patriots have had some offensive line issues as of late. Yeah. That could be an issue, especially when you're trying to run the ball with a new offensive line. They've only had one game together, really, before the buy. So there are some challenges. They are imperfect. So are the bills. We know that.

What the bills have done the past couple of years is just completely transform their offense into a running offense. And like, it's stuff that the chiefs haven't done. And so the bills are built to survive in cold weather where it's going to come down to Josh Allen and what he can do with his legs and how they can run the ball. everyone should remember to get their faucets, you know, just a little trickle so your pipes don't freeze. It's really important because I've had my pipes freeze and it's been ugly. You're in the Northeast. And I just, once again, I can't get over this if you're a Patriots fame where the pros believe in your team, which I am truly shocked by.

I really thought this was going to be a two and a half three number on this bills team. And they've totally come in and backed your team early here. So, you know, if this was my team, I'd be very excited because, you know, you're 11 and 2 here and you win this. It's over, right? They've locked up the division with this team. So it's really interesting, as you said, you're on Tuesday. In fact, the early money has been the Patriots, but I'm dug in. I believe Josh Allen, Bill's, he ain't dead yet.

I think he's going to give him one last fight here. For the record, as of right now, it's supposed to be low 30s, but it could be 15. But right now, six days out, whatever it is, the temperature at game time is supposed to be very low 30s. Yeah, yeah. I got a weather guy. He claims he claims there's going to be a big, big freeze coming. So it's going to be really cold on the East Coast for a lot of these games. Well, Sunday's not my dog walking day because I'm so busy working.

So I'm going to get out of that one. Arizona at Houston. Houston is a nine and a half point favorite. Simon, the only time the car. has been blown out this year, has been when they played teams in the NFC West. Literally every other game has been four points or less. And arguably, the game against the Rams last week was a low point. It was at home for the Cardinals, unlike their game against the Niners, unlike their game

against the Seahawks, they could not blame turnovers and flukes in the first 15 minutes of the game that put them behind the eight ball. for their loss. They just got dominated and decimated at every turn. They were just terrible to the point where the Rams had their backups in, you know, with a quarter left. This thing started moving on Sunday night from seven and a half to nine and a half with the majority of the back, the books, the tickets on Houston right now makes sense. They could get some players back. Marvin Harrison Jr. could come back. Trey Benson, they're running back who's been out since week four could come back uh they could get some help back on the offensive line the cardinals i

mean am i crazy to say this is a by low sell high on the cardinals no but again it's these are the this is that game we get in trouble with because i've seen when i first saw it i loved it as well too it's like arizona this the exact type of games they back door and stay in it where um the houston they're not a juggerna of an offense like they're not no they're not comparable to these other offenses that have rolled and blown out this Arizona team. So I'm with you. It's my biggest issue is like, can we, can we see the scenario where we get burned here? Because it's obviously a really bad Arizona team that is horrible defensively.

And they could be burned here by Marks and CJ and all the things that we think Houston could do offensively, of course. But I think it's a nice spot. They got, we have a Houston team that just slayed the demon, the chiefs. Like this is, if you read anything leading up to that game, Houston, basically, it circled this one all year because of that playoff loss. And they were just so fired up about that game. And like we said, it doesn't really feel like they won that game.

It feels like they got to, they did, but it felt like a little bit of gifted to them. They stole that game in many ways. And this is being priced into it. Like you said, this number has moved two points. They, their books are bracing for a ton of teasers, all of it coming on this Texans team. So right now, one book, one of the more public books, has already hit 10. So that's why, like, people, I think you might be able to be patient here. Yeah.

You might be able to get to the 10s here on Cardinals. And at that number, I got no issue, no issue taking this Cardinals team. So I'm already dreading it. I already can see our future comes Sunday, 10 and a half in contest. Can't avoid that because we've just seen it. Jacobi Brissette, his offense, you know, even against good defense, he tends to move the ball. And when, you know, he's playing dead for two or three quarters, he does eventually come to live for two or three drives and moves the ball.

So it's a tough, tough, tough bet, chat where it's like, I can't avoid it. I knew I was going to like it as soon as I saw it. And the fact that it's moved so much, once it hits that 10 number like it is right now, as soon as we get off this call, I'm going to go hammer with that number. Yeah, we kind of have to. Like I said, there's a couple buy low, sell high spots that, and we've won with these, this season. Like, it's not like, even though favorites keep winning at big numbers,

it's not like we haven't found the thread of the needle on these. just did it with New Orleans against the box. Obviously not the same situation, but the big numbers do cover. The Panthers just covered against the Rams at 10 and a half. We just saw the Raiders covered eight and a half against the Broncos. Fluky things happen. Big numbers are just hard to cover. It's just like at the end of the game, we've seen it so many times with the Titans, betting against the Titans. Like when you have a decent quarterback and you've got some momentum on offense at the end of the game and the team is just playing a shell defense, they don't have to worry about losing the game. That's where bad things happen for favorites.

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty well. range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name

Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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What will Joe Burrow do against the secondary for the second time this season? Don't forget, they played, what, two and a half weeks ago when Burrow was awesome, outscoring the Ravens, 20 to seven in the second half. The Bengals should have won against the bills last week. the Ravens are reeling. If they have any pride,

this is a get-right spot. But this defense is tragic. And you've talked about where it seems like players are starting to fade. Like Mark Andrews has been non-existent as a weapon for the Ravens,

and they're really struggling on the outside. And Lamar Jackson, who's played more games than any quarterback ever, it seems like the past six years at least is banged up nonstop. How do you bet on the Ravens here? It's Baltimore, gentlemen. The guards will not save you.

Yeah, I don't know what to do with it. My model likes it for the Bengals. It basically has this game of the pick. So it's like they're pretty much power of the exact same team now that Joe Brow is back. That's how, I should say, how bad the Ravens are and how much better the Bengals are than I guess we perceive. But I wanted to be on the Ravens.

I feel like this is a good time to bet the Ravens. So we can talk, I guess, about it again on Thursday because we say to here right now, I just, I don't know what to do with this one. Like I know probably supposed to be on the Bengals. The model is right, like two and a half. That's a good number for the Bengals. I mean, Hard Rock's already moved to two. So clearly, the professionals are going to back this Bengals side. But I don't know.

I just, I can't quit this Ravens team. But I told you, there's just, there's a lot of all-field drama stuff that's leaking out in the public right now, this Ravens team. It's just all bad in the locker room. It's just, there's so many teams right now. that I just can't imagine how horrible the locker room pipes are. And this is one of them with this ravenous team. So I know, I know, Chad. We both wanted to be on the Ravens.

There probably should be a tell of us. We should probably be on the Bengals. And it's probably a good value number. I know. I don't know why. It's almost like, look, I had the same feelings last week with the Bengals and the Bills. I wanted to be on the Bengals. I loved the Bengals in that spot.

But it felt like such a public dog. And this also was going to feel like such a public. dog and that's honestly the only thing that's keeping me from doing it it just feels too popular to bet the bangles and i don't want to be popular at all okay sometimes again we won on big big the biggest talk better the week last week was the rams and we nailed it so nailed it it does hit cleveland and chicago chicago is a seven and a half point favorite at home against the cleveland browns this bears defense if it cannot get a turnover it cannot get a stop Gino Smith, J.J. McCarthy, Spencer Rattler, Jordan Love. It doesn't matter who the quarterback is,

how good they are, or how bad they are. They all find ways to move the ball against the Chicago Bears. And in all of those games, all of those games, turnovers were the difference. The only difference is that the Packers didn't have any at the end of the game, and they won. The other teams, which were bad, all did, and that's how the Bears were able to eke out. victories. So if they cannot stop anybody, and Shredor Sanders is playing with more and more confidence, do we ever go against type and bet on this Browns defense as a big underdog when everybody still wants to be backing the Bears? Because I will tell you, it does feel to me like the Bears' stock is actually risen after they're lost in terms of public perception to the Packers, because they

played so well against a good team. And if not for bad timing, play calling, however you want to measure it, they might actually win that game. Yeah, you're probably right. This probably is the right time to jump off this, this Bears train, right? You're now at seven and a half. Like, that's a crazy high number with a hook. And like you talk about this, Bears' defense is suspect, but keep bringing up, Chad, the cold weather. I mean, Chicago, if the East Coast is going to be in the 20s or 30s, what Chicago is going to be in the fives, tens, 15s? it's going to be freezing at this game. So I kind of might end up backing the Bears just because I see an avenue with them offensively,

how they can move and they've played now. This would be their second week in a row playing in that kind of type of cold where Cleveland, that was in the cold. I mean, Shador played really well in it. But you kind of saw it, that was not a little fluky, but it felt a little fluky. With this Bears team, it kind of feels exactly like we know what they are. So it's a great matchup. if you want to be with the professionals

I think they're going to come on the Browns and seven and a half it just feels like a way too big for this Bears team but I could be respaded into this bear side I just I hate it like it just

it was six and a half went to seven now it's seven and a half I could have been talking to the Bears but seven seven and a half I'm probably going to have to be on the Cleveland even though I really don't want to it's going to be

because I you know in my weather app I have Chicago on there even though I don't live there anymore i always like to know what's going on there even though i haven't lived there in 35 years um it's going to be zero right that's what i mean there's a big freeze coming so like this is one of the games going to be affected by it and i don't know it's like it's it's tough it's tough to trust either team i feel like the bears are probably the more trustworthy team in that type of scenario do you uh have you ever seen the movie planes trains and automobiles steve martin john

candy don't call me surely so One of my favorite lines in any movie ever is they're trying to get back to Chicago. You know, they've gotten screwed every which way. They're riding in the back of a pickup truck through the plains of Kansas. You know any full country, though, isn't it? The figure the temperature is. One. One.

I love that line. It's like he could say negative 85. just one is such a great deadpan line. Just made me think of it when I said it was zero. The Chicago people are a different breed, Chad. So true. John Candy was Canadian, but really he was a Chicago one at heart. All right, let's talk about it.

Las Vegas Raiders at the Philadelphia Eagles. Eagles are 11.5 point favorites. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, famous for the Liberty Bell, Blue Law, soft pretzels, and losing football teams. The Raiders ending was truly bizarre, and it has lit up the internet. So I did some research. Just for everyone who hasn't paid attention, the Raiders were anywhere from 7.5 to 8.5 point underdogs against the Broncos.

They kicked a meaningless field goal with five seconds left when they were down 10. game ends, Broncos win by seven, everybody who was on the Raiders loses their bets. They're all calling, everyone who bet on Broncos loses their bets. They're all calling for the NFL to investigate this game. They're saying it was rigged, all of this stuff. This has happened before.

It happened two years ago. Shaw McVeigh as a seven and a half point underdog against the Niners in 2023 did the exact same thing. Strategically, you know, I get it. Like, who knows? You kick the field goal. You're down 10. If you even get a second left, you get an on-site kick, someone fumbles it, you can run it back.

Crazy, crazy things have happened in the NFL. People say they want to investigate the refs. I totally get it. Here's the problem that's going on right now. This is not an integrity problem. These games aren't fixed. If the NFL won to fix games, They wouldn't focus on the Broncos and the Raiders.

They would make sure that, why? Because they focus on the Chiefs on Sunday night when they need the Chiefs to win because the Chiefs and the Cowboys are the two most popular teams who drive the most ratings. It's not the Rams, it's not the Seahawks, it's not the Broncos.

Those are the teams they want to see make the playoffs. You're not good at scaming, Chad. That's not how scamming works. It's where people aren't looking. That's where they scam. but you miss the most egregious part of this whole thing. The reason people are so pissed off as Broncos could have kicked their field goal. They went for it on fourth down.

Okay, they didn't get it. Maybe they were going for a fourth down because they're trying to run out the clock. Trump and Payne does weird shit all the time. This whole Raiders part was so weird because they got that, they had no timeouts left. They threw to the middle of the field. The guy gets tackled. The defender was slow getting off of him or whatever.

Right, and they called a delay a game. Yes, which people got upset about because that's only been called, say, three, four times. the last five years, which is a very rare call type of penalty. And like we just said, they sent out the kicker when there's five seconds to kick it because his whole math was, well, if we kick that field goal and we make it, I put this in position that if we onside kick it, we could recover the onset kick. That's what I just said.

And return it for a touchdown. That's what Pete Carroll exactly said to defend himself. It's like, okay, I guess that covers all the basis here. But I think that's why people were just so upset. It's like you needed three really stupid things to happen at the end of that game to lose that bet, which you were winning for. the entire game. So that's why people were upset. And, uh, yeah, I, I told you. I, that's why I took Denver on the money line. It's like, I thought something stupid like,

like that might happen with the back door there. But to lose that way, I get why people were so pissed. It's like, egregious to all the stupid things that have to happen. But we say all the time, that's gambling. It's, it's stupid things that all the time. It is. It's gambling. And like, only gamble what you can lose and then don't fucking whine about it. Well, because this happens. It's whining, but I get what you're saying. Here's my solve, and we've talked about this earlier this year, the speed at which they can do expedited reviews now on so many things, how are they just not having somebody in New York doing an expedited review on every single call? And if it is egregious and it's impactful in some way, why aren't

they saying to the refs, yeah, pick up the flag, this was not the penalty you think it was? We saw it in the chief's game. We saw it in the chief's game. There was a penalty that was was a phantom pass interference penalty. There was a phantom holding penalty where a guy just fell and they thought it was a hold. We see these things happen all the time. It's so much easier with technology to fix it in the moment and they're only qualifying it against what they feel are sort of game changing plays. But a holding call can be a game changing play.

We just saw it last night. A delay a game can be a game changing play. They should be making these expedited reviews on such a wider menu of calls in the NFL, it would increase the quality of the game. It would eliminate so much of the conversation about how bad the refs are. And with integrity being front of mind for so many people, it is more front of mind than it even was two years ago when McVeigh did this. Like, there needs to be a fix. We have this conversation every week, Jeff. So fix it every week. I know, but I'm saying they're not going to, but that's the issue. It's like they should make it. Coaches can challenge one or two calls

per game. And it's not done through the referee crew on the field. It's done through New York, like you said. So it's not biased to the people you're on the field with. And it's just they need to do something because it's every week I'm getting a shot to by people saying the NFL's fixed. And we both have the same view. It's very stupid. But I like that get on because it is funny where it's like people really do believe it is fixed.

And it's like, guys, come on. They don't need to fix these games. Like it's just, it's going to be a billion dollar business regardless if whoever wins or loses that Denver Raiders game. Like we both joke. No one cares. But it's like what you said about the Red Zone the other night. it would be a more enjoyable product.

We're all paying for it. We're all going to watch it. It has no fear of fading. It's not going to get worse for the NFL, but why not make it as good as you can be? And you know this is an issue for everybody who's watching at home. It slows the games down. It ruins momentum.

It changes the course of these games. Why not just go to the competition committee, expand the menu of calls that can be expedited reviews. And if it's a phantom holding call, if it's a bad pass interference call, if it's a bad delay a game call, then just change it on the spot. Why change the outcome of games off of what are small penalties?

And that is happening. It's not just the big turnovers and scores that are the most impactful plays. Anyways, the Eagles are 11.5 point favorites at home against the Raiders. What do you want to fucking do? Lane Johnson's back.

I'll be older with the Eagles, but without him, I'll probably end up on Vegas and just overpass on this game. So we'll see. I think Lane Johnson will be back. But this is a great spot. It's supposed to be, once again, freezing cold.

Gino Smith outdoors. He's already been horrible this year's indoors, let alone outdoors against. Eagles is as much crap you want to give them. They do have a really good defensive line. They can get after quarterback. So we've seen that Phillips kid that got from Miami. He's been great for them. And he's been amazing.

He's a good match for him. So it's a huge number. Public will be all over Vegas. I mean, everyone, just like the Chiefs, there's no one out there betting this Eagles team. So I'll be patient. It has moved down. Yeah, just be patient.

It could get under 10. Philly has moved from 11 and from 12 and a half to 11 and a half. Yeah, if you're going to talk about buying it to low. I mean, everyone watched that game. So I don't even think it's rock bottom. Like I said, I think they could lose this game. They are just, it is so bad. That plane ride, I can't even imagine horrible.

That plane ride was. And it's a short week. Like, it's just everything is just so negative for this Eagles team. but they should smoke this Vegas team. Just defensively, I just don't see how Gino can move the ball. So really, really couldn't have asked if you're an Eagles fan or that team to have a better team to play against here at home. Washington commanders at the New York Giants.

The Giants are two-point favorites. I don't think any team has been more unlucky than the Giants this year. You mentioned Dr. Nick Giffin from Action, our buddy Nick, who does the luck rankings. And last week, his luck rankings, the two games that were sort of grade at A were the commanders as underdogs against the Broncos and the Giants

as underdogs against the Patriots. It worked out with the commanders. It didn't work out with the Giants because their luck continued under the first half until they made it a game. Washington, Jaden Daniels is expected to play.

So... That's crazy. It's crazy, but he is. They held him out for precaution because he was questioned, to return, you know, talk about by low, sell high, similar to the Cardinals here, like, it's not going to get lower for the commanders, losing 31 to nothing to a quarterback that basically everybody was putting on the scrap heap and saying was this generation to Marcus Russell and

JJ McCarthy. So commanders plus two, I feel like I feel like that's the play. Yeah, again, we're sitting here Tuesday. I'll probably bet the commanders, but I don't even want to be involved in this game for being totally honest. I'll make this pick for a pickpulls, but putting actual money on either side of this. There's so many good games this week. I will totally happily not have this on any TV. Good. I'm glad we don't want to talk about it.

I definitely don't want to put it in the middle of you. Detroit is visiting Los Angeles Rams. Rams are five and a half point favorites. Look, the Lions dominated the Cowboys. That's the good news, right? In that game, they lost Brian Branch for the year. year. They were already without Terry and Arnold, who hasn't even been the corner they need him to be, but he was the best they had, and now he's out. Thomas Harper, another guy in the defensive backfield

who's been starting, may miss the game because of a concussion. They may get Kirby Joseph back. He's been questionable. He's been out for a while with an injury. They beat the Cowboys with a lot of zone against the Cowboys. Cowboys have not played a lot of zone. I mean, they play. They They played a lot of zone against the Cowboys. They haven't played a lot of zone this year. It doesn't matter against Stafford. He's great against Zone. He's great against Man.

They've got a dominant Russian game. The success rate for this team's Russian game is as good as any team in the last six years when it was 2018 and it was the Los Angeles Rams who went to the Super Bowl. They're playing awesome right now. Yeah. And it just doesn't feel like. the type of spot they have a letdown or play bad right this is a huge deal this is matthew stafford's former team on the same one the opposite for jerry golf this is his former team as well so i this is i mean it doesn't get much better than this this is probably the best game of the week

just two teams both desperately need this game for playoff uh seating and you know i talked a little bit about sunday night i love the rams like i love them at four and a half they're five actually still at hard rock here in jersey every other book is five i'm five and a half. I'm seeing a couple six pop. So wanted to make this Simon says, but don't want to mush it because I'm going to bet this heavily. And Simon says it's just been toxic. So

I am really, really happy that this number is still in six. I really love this Rams team for just a bunch of different match with the biggest one. You just talked about the injuries to the secondary of this team. The lines, they can try to run the zone because they're going to have so many backups in there. He's just going to eat you a lot of staff.

Especially the way Puka is playing right now. And we've talked about the Monty Adams. he is my favorite thing about the end is he's in an old man level where I feel like stafford tells him hey this time run really a hard route like I'm actually going to go to and they pick their spots where especially in the red zone it just like feels like if you see certain plays you can see where puka's going really hard off the line is if puka knows it's coming his way on the flip side diva the adams just basically rubs the guy at the line doesn't even

move because he's like I'm not wasting energy here and it's just totally in sync I just love watching this ramp steam so much everything is just clicking so yeah it's it's a big number i assume the public will come in on this lines team especially if it touches six so like you said they had that huge win right and now they're on 10 days rest so i get it stafford especially i'm i'm sure the trends will back it up stafford as a dog indoors you know and i should say golf as a dog indoors tends to be a really good spot to take them but talked about those numbers it feels like it's it's the detroit of the past and this is a banged of a Detroit offensive line that's struggled against good defense lines, which the Rams have, and

we've seen it. They're secondary. It's just too many injuries. So I know pains me lines fans, but this just feels like a really bad spot to go against this jugger and out of a Rams team. I feel like you're expressing, I've heard this many times during our years together, a quiet confidence on the Rams. Yeah, I like it a lot. Again, I don't want to mush it what Simon says, but this is, I feel like this is a very nice number in a nice spot. So like I said, Hard Rock, it's still five here in Jersey. Shop around people, you might be able to still get a five. We can hear this, but I just see this getting to six.

By the time I've people hear this, unfortunately. I am going to unload on the Rams. I don't know about that. Betting it all. Yeah. On the Los Angeles Rams. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.

What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.

But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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I want to play a game. Simon says. Like Chad said, there are some threes popping up every now on them, but they keep can hit back down at two and a half. So I want to get the Saints now at two and a half just in case the pros do come in and hit this down. But this is going to be the biggest split game. The public will be all over this Carolina team, especially. In fact that the last time they saw them, they upset the Rams and they had a buy week. So, you know, as much as, as, as much as, you know, as much as, you know, as. I want to say, well, I thought the public would love this Saints team because he had huge win against the Bucks. Feels like everyone's kind of the same boat, right? It's like that's more about something being wrong with the Bucks than the Cents where it's like, once again, they're overlooking the Saints team. They play really tough. And just looking at these teams previous matchups going back these last couple years, while the Saints have been bad, they've kind of owned this Panthers team. It's been shocking.

So this year, they beat him 17 to 7, which we remember because we bet on it. And, you know, this exact next scenario, the next time, the last time they played, the Panthers did beat him 23 to 22 last year. And then before that, they had lost four straight. They lost to the Saints 47 to 10, 28 to 6, and then 20 to 17. So it's like the Saints have kind of owned this matchup and this Panthers team, usually in this matchup. So I don't know if the public is really looking to that historical facts where we talk, even last week it happened, right, all those divisional matchups, the trends were, when

out like these teams and when you get in these divisional games for some reason they just match up well against certain matchups and we've seen it the saints team they do match up well against his panthers team they're given problems up front where you know as old as cam jordan is he gives pressure up the middle which we've seen with brice young get him off his spot that's just not great for him so i love this number i wish i could say my model had this at the grammar like i did last week with that jaggs team where i was like oh it's four points off sadly the model literally has a set too. So it's not that big of a margin. I just, it's really about me loving the spot for the Stain's team, the fact they play. So it will get to Panthers team that tends to let down after

big wins. We've seen it multiple times this year. They've had let down spots after big wins. So we'll see how they perform. It's a rare opportunity. Bryce Young as a favorite in his career, I believe has one win. I had to spend all day yesterday researching Bryce Young as a road favorite. Has it happened before? No. It's never happened before. No. I was trying to think of it. It was like, as it happened before?

When could have happened? Right. It's an impossible. It doesn't exist. Not only is he a road favorite for the first time of his career, he's getting 87% of the bets and 80% of the money right now. I mean, it's that I just want to, like Simon says it. That's incredible. Thank you for looking at up, Chad.

Simon says, presented by a hard rock bet, it's going to be the New Orleans Saints plus two and a half. it's going to be hard to avoid this one in the contest. Not that we want to, you know, telegraph it, but we're both going to be on the Saints here. The number's probably going to be two and a half in the contest. So that's what we're going to be betting. Even one and a half, I'd still take it. Even though, again, that's under my model's number,

I still think this number should be a pick, right? It's like the Saints just are not as bad as people perceive. And as much praise we're giving to Carolina, they're an up and down team. That's just who they are this year. Yeah, I'm with you. will you be with me on this next game green bay at denver Denver is a two point home underdog it's been bouncing one and a half and two and a half

every time it gets to two and a half somebody buys the broncos and every time it gets to one and a half somebody's buying the packers and that's what we're seeing in the splits i'm going to make this one chad's choice and i am taking the green bay packers Are you sure you want to do this? Are you willing to make a choice? My choice. We can't run from where we are. Sharp dudes can just see it.

You know what I mean? You look at the numbers. We talked about this on Sunday. It's really hard to find the weakness in this team. Even though it doesn't feel like they've been the dominant talked about team, right? Everyone in the NFC, they've been talking about the Rams. They've been talking about the Seahawks. And the Packers, like, all of a sudden, they're 9, 3, and 1.

They're atop the NFC North. Their defense is so fast and playing lights out. Jordan Love is incredible under pressure, which is what the Broncos are going to bring, even if they're only bringing four or five guys. They're not going to be a blitz-heavy team. That's not their scheme. Their receivers on the Broncos on the Packers side are getting healthier. There's just opportunities here for the Packers to steal this game.

I don't think any of us trust Bo Nix. And while we like Bo Nix as an underdog, I think I just like this Packers team and I think they're starting to roll and finally getting healthy at the exact right time. So we've got to go with the Packers. Chad's choice presented by Hard Rock. Bet.

Yeah, I'm with you. Love the Packers here. I love the match for them. And another game I thought would be affected by the cold, but it seems like that cold air was just staying just to the east. So just Chicago and then heads east of the Mississippi. this game will probably be in the 50s, 40s for kickoffs. I know either team really going to be affected that much by the cold,

but just look at this matchup, yeah, the Green Bay, to me, they're the team that have been there before and more complete team. You expect them in this moment to kind of live up to that moment. And the fact that it is under a three, feels like it's the right number for the Packers, right? Like we just, how many times did this game play at the Packers and win this game by a football? Feels like it's going to be way more times than this Bronco seems going to cover as a dog here.

So I'm interested in where this line goes. Like I talked a little bit about Sunday night. I thought maybe it could flip. And you did see some one and a half start popping up on this Bronco side, but like Chad talked about, it's all two is now, all up to two and a half,

so a lot of books as well. So if you do like the Packers like we do, I would definitely get in now and grab the two before it moves two and a half because I just see this being two and a half three by close for most books. It's just the Packers, to me, professionals will bet them in the public.

Well, they just feel like that's the more trusted side. And even though, you know, the Broncos 11 and two, they've been great this year. They haven't really been tested. They have not really been tested. So this is a great test for them against a team that it feels like we've talked about this Green Bay team LaFlor in December.

They seem like they always turn around like McVey teams do and get better as they go along here. So we'll trust the better team, I suppose, in Green Bay and take the number under a field goal. Better team, equal defense, equal coaching, better quarterback. At the end of the day, we're fading Bo Nix on this one. Tennessee at San Francisco. San Francisco is a 12.5 point favorite. The Titans have covered three of their last four games. Since interim coach Mike McCoy took over,

they have had bursts of competitiveness. I'm not going to say whole games, but definitely bursts. But Simon, I'm going to refer to Sunday show in case people did not hear it or watch it. Matt, please roll the clip. Chad, what the hell? You're so lucky this is the holiday season. I'm so mad of you.

Your job is not to let me bet these damn Titan games. And every week... We tried... Dude, we tried to talk ourselves out of it this morning. I'm begging you. Stop me from putting this in. You have the power now. You're putting the picks in.

And you let me put it in. It's ridiculous. I told you, I cannot get a read. We can't get a read. Whatever I say, the opposite will happen. Is there anything else to say about this game? I think I just looked so much younger, the no stress of four interceptions,

like Yon Hertz in that moment, even in my rage. Yeah, if people want to keep fading me, I like the 49ers here. Like you're fading. We get to fade Tennessee off a road win now on the road again against a well-rested 49ers team. This number should be like 14. It's 12 and a half at a lot of books. I think it's going to keep going up.

So I like the Niners here. I think they absolutely roll this Tennessee team. But once again, I am not putting any money on it. I am wronging every time with this game. And if you have been following the trend, hammer, hammer, at Tennessee. Indy at Seattle. Seattle's a 13 and a half point favorite. Lines moved up from 12 and a half. This is the Barry the Colts in sports media week. Everyone from ESPN to the Wall Street Journal writing about how the Colts are done, how this was the season they went all in. They traded the

future for Sauce Gardner. Now he's out. They thought they had Daniel Jones as their quarterback of the future. Now he's going to be repairing an Achilles. They don't even know who their quarterback. is going to be when they start next year. This week, they've got to go with Riley Leonard because they had the freak accident with Anthony Richardson on the sideline before a game. Listen, all the tickets coming in on Seattle here, I said this one is moved.

Do we take a taste? I'm not saying it's a contest play one way or the other, but do we take a taste of the Colts? No, I'm not. you try to get me the other time was the Vikings in this exact scenario. It's not even Riley Leonard. I think it might be the other backup now. And

I mean, I could spend 10 minutes going to attain them about Philip Rivers and all these people in media. Grandpa Rivers! All these people in sports media act like they care about player's safety and CTE and all this other bullshit for all these years. I hated it because it's so phony and fake.

And you saw it this week. Those same people oh, wouldn't it be great if Philip Rivers came back? A 44 four-year-old grandfather should come back and play the most violent sport. Like, I cannot believe people won't Phil Berbers coming back. Another part, too, people talking about Phil Rivers as he's a Hall of Famer. When did that happen? When did Philip Rivers become a Hall of Famer, guy with zero playoff success? It's very bizarre times we're living in. I just, I might have too much hate in my heart. I just, as soon as I saw people want to Phil Rivers back, it's like, you should all be in jail.

This man could die entering a field of play at 44 years old. I saw some of Yeah, he's still slingling it, looks healthy. I have no doubt he could come back and play a game. Like, we've seen it with Flacco as an old man. It can happen. Like these guys are gunslingers. They're smart. They know to read defenses, but they think he can play two or three games and survive.

I just, I think that is, that is criminal to put a man like that. It's never the arm that is the issue. It's the body. It's the legs. It's the knees. It's the head. Guys who have the arm talent. like Philip Rivers, Dan Marino, John Elway, you know, Tom Brady, they could throw it till they're 80.

Yeah. That's not the problem. It's just so I get it. They worked them out and they were trying to get him to come back. But I just, when I saw people in the media, I'm like, man, this is like criminal. You guys are like, it's like marching a man to his death and celebrating it. It's I just did not like the fact that he's going to come back. But you know, as a kid, yeah, that makes me excited. Philip Rivers is coming back. That's great. But, um, For this number, if it's Philip Rivers, sure, Chad, I would have mind taking a piece. But if it's not Riley Leonard and it's the other backup or some other rookie or some guy that is picked up off the street, I just, you can't make me take it.

Seattle's defense. We've seen a time time again. They will destroy a lackluster quarterback performance. So their only hope, I mean, it is terrible. It is Philip Rivers or Joe Flacco gets released by the Bengals. Other than that, it's just grim, grim, grim if you're this Colts fan. I feel like we might be seeing Seattle, San Francisco, maybe Jacksonville, in the Money Line parlay at reduced spreads come Thursday.

Again, every epic, we would sit here and be like one of them is going to lose. It's not hitting a cover now from these big dogs. That's the win. Yeah, it does feel that way, right? All right, let's focus on some prime time games. We're going to watch these island games. We know we're going to bet these island games. Minnesota at Dallas, Dallas is six point favorite.

It's come down a little bit from six and a half. Minnesota went from being the, is the first team to ever go from being shut out to winning by a shutout at significant margin as they did. I have no read on this game. No, I like Minnesota. It's simply because I think their defense, we'll get stops and offensively,

I think KFCU better design stuff up that they'll be able to move the ball against this Cowboys defense that, yeah, they played better of late, but they're still suspect in many aspects of their team. So Hard Rock here in Jersey is actually five and a half. And I'm looking, there's still two books with sixes and a half. So if you can, when you take the Vikings and get the six and a half or the six, I think it's going to be out there.

But I do see the professionals coming in on this Viking side and this getting bumped down. So despite all the, the money, all the tickets early money is on the Cowboys team. I just... Well, it moved. It moved from six and a half to six. So we know that's where the pros are going to be. So, and I think they're going to keep coming on it. Like I said on Sunday, I think six is a good number for Minnesota, but I get why you're hesitant. Like I, betting J.J. McCarthy on the road after a huge win, it just does not have. That's the problem. So I get, I get

your hesitation. I'm there with you. But Miami at Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh is now a three-point favorite minus one-twenty at Hard Rock, three and a half everywhere else. And since we stupidly walked away from Mike Tomlin and the rah-rah trends last week, I do want to bring up that Mike Tomlin in his career as a three-plus home favorite, 51% against the spread. But since 2018, when we entered into the Duck Hodges, we don't know who's going to be quarterback and a Ben Rothesberger era,

he's well below 500 against the spread as a three-plus point favorite at home. Football is that game, our business is winning. Now we're getting all the news this week, other than Daniel Jones and the Colts and how tragic is how brilliantly Mike McDaniel has saved his job. And since we have to buy high on both teams right now, I'm more inclined to sell Tomlin and buy the dolphins for one reason, the Dolphins running game. Devon A-chan has just been brilliant this year.

And before he left the Jets game with a rib injury, he will be playing this week, by the way. 92 yards on seven carries. That's the difference for this team. And I know it's going to be, you know, Arctic blasts. But Arctic blast for the dolphins used to mean they couldn't do anything because it was in two his hands. Now it's not going to be in two his hands. So I'm less uncomfortable with a team that focuses on an explosive run game against a defense in the Steelers that has been terrible at giving up explosive runs. Yeah, everything you said is so true.

I immediately wanted to be on Miami at three and a half, but the freeze has scared me off because we've just talked about how horrible to his record is and everything like that is. but maybe the cheat could is you just two is not nothing these last three, four weeks and they keep winning because they have such a dominant run game. So maybe I'm overthinking it here. Miami probably is the right side. The three though is very tempting. I mean, the Hard Rock already moved back to three and a half. So someone clearly came and hit that right away once they moved it.

And I'm tempted, not going to lie, tempted to take Pittsburgh, the minus three. But everything you're saying is so true. It's Miami three and a half. And we know Tomlin's record whenever he's a big favorite. like this, especially after that emotional of a win on the road against the rave as a divisional foe. It's easy to see them having a let down here. But, you know, it's that those trends, Chad, they're going to scare me off, man. That Miami in the freezing cold, they're just, it's so bad, especially when they're playing against what this team is right now, Pittsburgh, a

divisional team. So we've seen it there, it's the double negative. It's a two playing against a team on the road above 500, two and a plan against a team that's in the freezing cold. So, I'll have a strong opinion come Thursday, and this one was said here right now, I am leaning towards this Pittsburgh side. Hmm. Interesting. Interesting.

Stuff. All right. Well, listen, we got a lot to review and there's a lot to unpack still because lines are still going to be moving and we're going to get roster information, but Kansas City minus four is a debate. New England Buffalo is a debate. Arizona, will it move?

Will we start feeling all of a sudden like we have no choice? I think we have like three or four games we like legit really like. I think we definitely like the Rams. Pretty good starts the week on us. I usually hate a lot of games today. Normally like, but I think I think we, I circled on my list games that I know we like. Rams, New Orleans, Green Bay. Are those the same three that you have circled?

I don't have anything circled, but I do like those. But those are the ones we agree on. Yeah. I'm just saying I don't write anything like you do. That's what I love about you though, man. You're old school. No, take notes. I got a whole notebook. Fill in it. I get new one each year. Just fill it up with Sharper Square stuff. All right. This has been Sharper Square. Part of the volume podcast network. We will

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