The Herd with Colin Cowherd - The Daniel Cormier Show - BEST OF DANIEL CORMIER: Every 2025 Islam Makhachev interview with DC

Episode Date: December 27, 2025

In this special edition of the Daniel Cormier Show, listen to both check-in interviews DC had with Islam Makhachev in 2025. Ahead of his title defense against Renato Moicano, Islam talks to DC about K...habib Nurmagomedov getting kicked off an airplane, his parents being unable to watch his fights, and so much more! Plus, in his most recent sit down with DC, Islam gets into his legacy, his next move in the UFC, and becoming a double champion! #Volume All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:01 You, champion, Umar. Thanks for checking in with me. It fell? It fell? Okay. I don't know how to do this shit. Louise, why don't want you come do it? Hey, what?
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Starting point is 00:05:26 Oh, man. Thanks for checking in with me. Guys, always. My boy Islam Mahachev Defends his championship this weekend at UFC 311. How are you feeling, champ? How's everything? Feel good, drinking water, cutting weight. That's it.
Starting point is 00:05:41 You smell that biscuit? You like that? Sunday, I waiting, morning, okay? Sunday morning, before you leave, I promise you. Have to be fresh. Fresh, hot, okay, warm. You're going to eat this? Deal.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Okay. Las Vegas for training camp this time. How was that, man? I mean, I read something the other day when you're talking to Demetri Johnson. You had a baby? He then left the next day for training camp? Third one. Third baby.
Starting point is 00:06:08 How many you have? Three. Three. Are you done? No, I want seven. You want seven? Seven children. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Why seven children? Full wrestling team? Seven weight class, Olympics. Some of the judo, samba, wrestling, maybe someone do MMA. Now I have two boys. Two boys. Nice. I have to be four.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Big family is good, man. Yeah. I build new house. You did already? A couple years ago, yeah. It's beautiful? Beautiful. I saw Kabeeb's house, beautiful house.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Is your house like Kibib's out of beautiful? House, like residence, you know, it's so big. It's so big. big like yours like this my not so big my i live is my grandmother my father mother but it's big but not crazy yeah i saw your father when you first won the belt this guy was very happy huh yeah very proud of this guy is village guy you know he's still doing his farm green farm here just called me today morning you say tomato is ready tomatoes are ready he's excited about tomatoes you're fighting for the world title this weekend this dude's talking about tomatoes he don't
Starting point is 00:07:12 care too much about this all the time. What you mean, man? He's not on sports, you know. He's just hard worker all his life. He worked with his hand, you know. Your whole family, they watch the fights, though. Mom, dad, kids. Mom can't watch?
Starting point is 00:07:27 Mom never watched the fight. Why? Never again, like after if I win, he never, never watch. Even if you win, she doesn't go back and watch it? Never, never. Why? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:37 She don't like. So my mom used to go, and the whole time she would kind of like, Like this, you know, eyes down, scared. My mama go outside the house, and she walked around the city. The garden. Yeah, around where I live. And when I won, somebody, like, from the other house, go, like, crazy, you know, and she understands. Didn't she understand you when she go back inside now?
Starting point is 00:08:00 Now she can, like, sit and be comfortable. She noticed too much. Yeah. So Las Vegas, though, training camp. How was that? We spoke at, I think we spoke at the last paper view. You were a little concerned about Habib losing his mind during training camp. Did he lose his mind?
Starting point is 00:08:16 And how was the training camp in preparation? Why you don't control? Brother, I go, this crazy month. Gymnastics, something. Not even gymnastics. No excuses. It's just like, it's impossible. You go to Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Why? Las Vegas is probably. It's very far. Fifty minutes by fly from your house. Yeah. Why not? But if I go to the fly, I never know if maybe they threw me out. No.
Starting point is 00:08:38 They train. This is the craziest situation. In emergency, you can help people? Bro, why they kick him out like this crazy? Why do you this to my guy? I don't know. Brother, this number one bullshit, disrespect. Brother, I understand if they kick you out from this emerging ex.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Because you're so big, maybe... Don't do that. Don't be disrespectful. Don't be disrespectful. I can help because you need strength to pull the, the, the bar. You're a little bit big now you cannot move too much.
Starting point is 00:09:13 No, but all you got to do is pull the lever. That's it. But people have to go from this side. Yeah, but once I pull, I go. You go first? I go first.
Starting point is 00:09:23 You go first or you go last? I go less. You wait, I help everybody. Habib, go last too. So what happened is like these people front of the airline company, disrespectful. They took the worst guy,
Starting point is 00:09:34 this guy's the best guy to be in there. It's crazy. It's crazy. But how was the camp? Camp, it's really hard, man. It was hard. And I like to training in Vegas, U.S.C.P.I, all therapy, food, everything. It's good, you know, training there.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Brand new facilities, recovery, training. Recovery, training. Like, U.S.C. P.I. team, it's so good, you know. Thank you, everyone from UFCPI. They help us a lot. And we have everything what we need in last camp in Vegas. When you weigh your camps, your last couple camps, Dagestan to this one?
Starting point is 00:10:13 Like, is this something you're going to be doing more going forward, coming out to Las Vegas to do your camps? We're thinking where we can make the camp, you know, and Vegas or San Jose. And because this time three guys... Cold, San Jose, too. It's cold also. Gym is cold sometimes. And because we become, like, big team, like, three guys fighting.
Starting point is 00:10:39 That's why we sit with the, Habib is the coach. and we choose the Vegas. Vegas, honestly, one of the... It's a great place for training, especially right now with the PI. It's a great place. Pi, Apix, they have everything. Islam, you're fighting Armand Syrucian again, the first time, right?
Starting point is 00:10:58 Even we did, right? When you came back from fight, we all make fun. Like, oh, you lose a round, you do this, this. And he said, brother, I want every round. Like, I won three rounds to zero. Yeah. But he fought you on short notice. Do you anticipate a much different fight?
Starting point is 00:11:12 this time, then he got in the last fight. Man, maybe first time I'm a little bit underestimating because I don't know these guys. He even not, I sign him in UFC, even not in the U.S. He wasn't signed before he fought you. They
Starting point is 00:11:27 looking for an opponent for me. That's why he signed there. Because no one from U.S. or other country want to come to Russia and fight with me. That's why that time we signed him. And he grew up more experienced. Like he's a big guy now.
Starting point is 00:11:44 He's big. Big experience and one of the best in our division. In that first fight, it seemed as though he was more willing to wrestle you offensively. Most people shy away from that. They just think defend Islam's takedowns, right? So then they're kind of on their heels the whole time because they're thinking shot, shot, which ultimately leads to you being better with your hands. Do you anticipate he's going to be trying to wrestle you again in this fight?
Starting point is 00:12:16 Yeah, because all his fight, he has same style. If you look how many nine, ten fight he have in the UFC right now. He has always same style with everybody. He goes with the striking a little bit and when somebody tried to push him, he go to take it down. That's why, because why he number one, why I'm the champion? he have good skills in the wrestling because I have good skills in the wrestling who have good skills in the wrestling they control the division you know it is universally thought you know what that means universal like everybody believe this that this is the toughest fight to date
Starting point is 00:12:57 for islam mahachev do you agree the first one this one this weekend is the toughest fight that you'll see nobody no you know nobody know some of the fight it's for example when i was fighting with the Tebow, Glacin Tebow. In my mind, I prepare myself for the very hard fight, you know. But it was going easy, you know. And I prepared.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I remember that we fought together that night. You knocked them out, yeah? Yeah, straight left. You get the bonus. You knock him down. You knock him on. Good, you get boldness. And you, what you did? Submission.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Submission. Yeah. Not some ambition. You ground and pound. No submission. This was against Rumble Johnson. Or Volcan, like, Uzumir. Okay, yeah, ground and pound.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Ground and pound. They don't give me a bonus. They give you a bonus. No, I thought you got the bonus. No, that night I don't get the bonus. I wonder why. Why you get the bonus? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:53 You're a rich guy now. You don't need the bonus now. Now I don't need, but that time I need the bonus, you know. You have to come to my room. I'm not dessert. And give you the 50 grand? Yes, brother. So you're telling me right now, if you get a bonus over Umar, right?
Starting point is 00:14:08 You'll take the 50 grand and go give it to Umar. Tagir. Tagir. So you would go give Tagir. He would not do that. If Tagir wants some crazy things. But you didn't do a crazy thing? You hit one punch.
Starting point is 00:14:20 One punch, knock him out, sleep. What do you have to do more than this? If maybe you do like spinning back fist twice like this guy in Abu Dhabi, okay, I give him the money. But if you only do one punch, knock out and I do the same thing, we do the same thing. What you did? Punch. Just punch finish. Grand and pound.
Starting point is 00:14:38 No, go easy. What did I hit him with? My fist. Yes. What did you hit the guy with? Your fist. My arms. It's the same thing, right?
Starting point is 00:14:48 There's no reason to give you the 50 grand. It's not true, man. You know, you never know what's going to come. The Dustin Corrier fight. A lot of people made it seem like that was a super tough fight. When you go back and watch it, like, what did you make of that fight? You know, improve a lot from this fight. Like, my striking.
Starting point is 00:15:08 become better from this side because I know I can strike with anyone because Dustin is one of the dangerous guy in our division who have better than him boxing you know I go with him like and I feel comfortable if Habib and our corners don't told me take him down take I can knock him out you know because I landed lot you were you were landing really good in the striking he landed also but we have good good fight in the striking But from this fight, I improve a lot, you know. Islam, so I'll tell you this right now. So I keep count.
Starting point is 00:15:45 You told me after the first Volkanowski fight, you may be underestimated him a little bit, right? Yeah. You're telling me now that from the Armand's Rukian fight, you possibly underestimate him a little bit. I'm always good in that, no, but did you underestimate Dustin Poyer? No. Though now, now that you, how do you not underestimate Aramon again?
Starting point is 00:16:05 I'm surprised when I fight with Dustin. I'm surprised how he defends my wrestling, you know. I'm not underestimate because this is like... How do you make sure you don't do that again against Armand? No, no, no. Is that from the first fight? You gained the respect from the first fight? Because he said that he doesn't even look at the first fight because he's a different guy.
Starting point is 00:16:22 He's a number one contender right now. It's mean he's a high-level fighter. How I can underestimate him. Maybe when I fought with Volcanovsky, I think he's going to be short, small, something like that. Right now, I have a real opponent who will have everything. You know, I have to be ready. You know one thing that happens when the guy wins as much as you do? You're like, and I don't know if you even notice or if you pay attention to it,
Starting point is 00:16:51 you're like two fights from breaking Anderson Silva's record for wins in a row in the UFC. You're at 14 straight wins, which is a crazy number. How many you have? Dude, stop. God damn, man. I never won 14 fights in a row in the year. I only had like 13 fights in the UFC. You never, you already break my record.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Khabi record, you beat Khabib in terms of his wins in the UFC. Nobody does that. Like it's Anderson, Kamara Usman, and then you. But if you win this weekend, you tie Kamara Usman, you'll be won from Anderson Silva. You've won the championship. You've defended the championship twice. If you win this weekend, you will now have the record for most title fight wins in the UFC.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Do you think about that stuff because now you're on the verge of getting spoken about in historical terms. We always talk about that in the gym, right? We want to be number one pound for pound. We want to be this. We want to be that.
Starting point is 00:17:49 You're checking all those boxes now. You ever stop and take note of it a little bit and go, man, this is really special? Honestly, man, I never thinking about this. I don't know how many Usman have, how many Andersen's. But last week, Laramedia asked me about this, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's good. Good for the last. legacy and I become close to you guys, Habib, you to become in Hall of Ames. So Islam, that's another thing. So everybody wants to ask me, right? Because I know you guys well. How much does Islam have to do to surpass Habib as the greatest light weight of all times? It's not my goal.
Starting point is 00:18:24 It's not some things which I want to do, you know. Just one thing is what I want to do, honestly, to be champion many, many years. That's it. No record, nothing. Defend my belt, be champion. You know, when you have belt, it's different. I told him that, I said that. That was my answer.
Starting point is 00:18:43 The respect he has for that guy and what he's done for his career, you don't want to surpass that. It's like, I think Habib's the greatest lightweight of all time. I think Habib's the greatest fighter of all time. But I also think that Armand Serukian needs to be somebody or somebody needs to be able to challenge you in a way that can elevate you to that next level of superstar. I don't think Armand Sarika is like big name, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:10 He's a good fighter. You need a big name, though. Yeah, maybe some of it. Maybe you'll come back. Me? You know that if I came back, I would still beat you as I always beat you. I'm now fat, out of shape, golf guy. Lazy, don't want to cut weight.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Me? I can make 205. I can make 205. You can come back, cut weights, and be in the table. Top. Top 20. Everybody would beat me. I don't want to be in the top 20.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Top five. No. No chance, bro. Islam, you are the man, bro. I appreciate you spending time with me. Are we doing one of these? Still strong. I'm very strong.
Starting point is 00:19:52 What you did? Training a little bit. Me? Why? Why would you think I trained a little bit? You have to. Right now? Wrestling.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Only wrestling. No, no. When you go to the daughter school, do some gymnastics. It's so hard. Have you ever done just? gymnastics? No.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Your kid did gymnastics? Not now. It's a bit you're gonna do? It's like very, very hard gymnastics. Wrestling.
Starting point is 00:20:15 I do wrestling. With my kids on my team if I feel like taking on pros. How's your team? Good. Very good team. When you're sending them back?
Starting point is 00:20:23 We go back. We go back as soon as we get a chance. When you invite, I take now all my little kids. And you come with them. I want to. I want that before, you know? Tagestan.
Starting point is 00:20:34 But how many years? Brother, The last 15 years, I will come Dagestan, I will come Dagestan, never. I'm going to Dagestan, guys, I promise it. Islam Mahachev, the Fins' this championship this weekend for the third time. That would be the record for most title fight
Starting point is 00:20:50 wins in the UFC at UFC. How many times? Four. Nobody's defending that belt four times. You say four by three. I did this, dude. You did this, but you say four. I said four.
Starting point is 00:21:02 So you won the belt against Charles. You beat. Dustin Porier. Oh man, did you beat Alexander Volcanozky two-time defense? So it's five? Is it five? Is it five? Wait, stop, so is it five? Six. No way, stop. So you beat, so you beat Volkanowski twice defense? Yes. You beat Charles Olivaire. Yes, I take it that belt. And he won the belt. That was not a defense. Dustin, so yeah, five. Four defenses, five types. Five types. Good job, man. Congratulations. I didn't know. How many belt do you have? I broke all your records. No, not yet.
Starting point is 00:21:43 What do you have? Double champ. Remember that? Yeah, double champ. Guys, Islam defends a belt. UFC 311. Hit that pay-per-view buy button. It's not like he needs any more money, but he could use it. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast?
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Starting point is 00:26:07 Hey, when you go, you know it's cold. You tell Jack Delamette Lain to this the other day. It's very cool. Yeah. I tell him we have to warm up the city. It's freezing here. It's cold in Russia? No, it's the same. Same?
Starting point is 00:26:21 Thanks, champ. My man. Guys, Islam Akachev, getting ready to challenge for the World to Weight Championship in the world this weekend. What's up, man? How you feeling? I got to be honest with you. Like, this is my name, Daniel Kormier. TV?
Starting point is 00:26:34 Like, real deal now. Hey. TV. I know. Yes. Hey, so listen, I got to be honest with you. Be honest. I kind of don't like the way you promote this fight with just constant shots at me,
Starting point is 00:26:46 like DC this, DC Fed, DC Fed. Everybody, brother, just come from the media, they ask me, you're still thinking about 185? You? Yeah, they ask me. I just told them if DC helped me, I can. Gain weight? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:02 But why always, DC this, DC this? Hey, what about the other day? Ababaaka. I killed this guy. I kill Abbaqqqa. Kabib too a little bit, I kill him. Come on. Video. Come on.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Will Harris edit this video. This guy Will Harris is the worst video editor of all the time. He made like I stay on the ground the whole time. Come on, Rezvan. I was not on the ground the whole time. These guys go crazy. Look at this. You guys like, together click.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Brother, I'm happy that day you burned a lot of colors. I always Always I lift weights You comment You say this guy work hard Huh I'm happy
Starting point is 00:27:44 When I see you Put something inside the gym I'm like really happy Why Because brother People look at you And thinking This is like
Starting point is 00:27:51 One of the best fighter Of all the time And It was even when I was fighting People think this No When you're fighting You look good
Starting point is 00:28:01 Man Nah I know I look good now too A little bit I'm really good looking face. You may have better body, but my face better
Starting point is 00:28:10 than yours. You promise me. I cut it. I cut it. This morning I cut a little bit. I leave though, see? I still got the beard, but it's like nice and neat, you know? Don't cut, brother. You say I will come to Dagestan. I will come to Dagestan in the summer, and I'll
Starting point is 00:28:26 keep longer. All right? From today to summertime? No chance. It isches. No chance. Guys, Islam fights. Jack Delamadela. How's it been? being around Jack Delamadena this week and being so close to ultimately something that you talked about years ago trying to become a champion in two-way classes yeah like happy happy biggest card of the year like best arena and biggest fight on my life
Starting point is 00:28:56 very excited and like really happy are you surprised that you're as big a favorite as you are over Jack Delah Madalena because when I hear you talk about the fight, you're very aware of how tough a fight this is. But it seems like the general public thinks that it's a foregone conclusion that you're going to be a world champion. I never think about this. Who make their rankings?
Starting point is 00:29:22 Who make this? The numbers? Yes. Guys that do bets, odds makers, they call them. I don't do bets. That's why. You don't bet? I don't believe and I don't like check.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Well, I'm telling you right now, your big favorite over Jack Delamadena. You did better? I don't gamble. Yeah, it's good. Better ways to spend your money, huh? Yeah, yeah. Like this?
Starting point is 00:29:43 Like on this? What is this watch? What is this watch? You like it? Yes, what kind of watch is this? Like Target watch? What time is it? You get from Target?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yes. Wow. What time is? It has no, I can't tell. What time is it? Just you late. Whatever time it is, I'm late. Oh, man. Hey, the other day, they never laid. They never late. But you were early,
Starting point is 00:30:16 which is very odd. Professional. 30 minutes before we were supposed to interview, 30 minutes before. I'm not surprised when you're late. You always late inside the gym also. I was never late in training. Like, broke all Rusen. No, I didn't. When we were in, when we were all training together, I was always 12 o'clock practice, 11, 55. 1155 I show up I remember you were like travel bag Yep like suitcase Yeah you come always like 11 15
Starting point is 00:30:44 No we trained 12 yeah 11 15 I was there I would show up 11 15 practice start 12 o'clock No 11 you're always slid man You always not professional but Be on your work Yeah I'm I'm Some of the fighter Okay I am good now I feel good not cutting like much weight
Starting point is 00:31:04 Some of the guys cutting weight If you're late, they're going to beat you. Beat me. You think that people can beat me now? Two, three people can beat you. Together at the same time. Remember one time when we almost smash you in a key? You try to jump me?
Starting point is 00:31:22 Almost. Because Khabib? Yeah. Why are you guys? You guys follow this guy like this, huh? He's the leader, huh? Tell me the story. You say, like, you bring the crotch, ma'er.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Like, as you say, this is. is my team, this is my team. You teach like 10, 15 people. But when we almost smash you, nobody can... You're crazy. Nobody, like, stepped to help you, you know? Remember? This was, you guys went to fight me.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Why? Why you want to smash me? Because you go crazy with Habib. Why I go crazy? You make him injure. No, I didn't injure, Habib. I've never injured Habib. He injured his neck.
Starting point is 00:31:59 He said... Oh, and I grabbed the head. You say, let's do like something easy. And you go hard with him? But do you remember the other day? when we were in practice, I tell him, I'm finished, I'm finished, I go on the side, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:32:11 Throw me down, jump on me. Two days ago? Yes. But it's the same, like, because he said, okay, I don't. Make you work, man. Make you work. To have good dinner. So wait, why, why?
Starting point is 00:32:23 When I do it, I try hurt Habib, but when he do it, he just make me work. You see? Now you. Now I understand bias. You know how everybody says, oh, he biased Islam. Now I understand bias. Now you both retired.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Who cares if you're in. Nobody. But that time, he's still fighting. Islam. Jack is has improved greatly in his wrestling. He's working with Craig Jones. Alexander Volcanovsky. Alexander Volkanowski
Starting point is 00:32:52 who had success defending takedowns is also helping him prepare. What do you make of that? Seeing all those guys... Let's make this Craig one fight in the military fight. Everybody asks you what? Like he helped him to improve something, improve something.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It's not working like this. When you bring someone for one camp or for two camps, I just give you a good example. I tell yesterday, what about Hamzad fighting with Deplice? I think Deplice bring many coaches, many, many partners. But it's not working like this. He was waiting.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Why was he waiting so long to try? Did he ever sprawl? Who? Duplice, did he ever sprawled? I don't think he ever sprawled. I don't think he even watched a wrestling match in the TV, you know. He didn't sprawl one time. There was one thing you had to do in that fight,
Starting point is 00:33:53 and that was defend wrestling. He didn't sprawl. So do you think Jack will be able to wrestle or be able to stop takedowns, or do you anticipate that you're going to be able to take him? down and controlling. One time, second time. But, you know, I will try again, again, again. Hard to stop.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Are you comfortable? Are you comfortable standing and striking with Jack Delo and Adelaideon if you need to for 25 minutes? It's not like fighting, like wrestle against boxer. I will strike. I can strike with anyone, you know. I strike with Dustin all fight almost. I strike with Volk. I'm not wrestling.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I'm a best MMA fighter. You know when you, uh, Talk about these guys. There's some things when we talk. You always say crazy stuff. But there's a clip where you were talking about Dustin Porre's Black Belt. There's just so many clips of you, like talking about these guys. When you fight them, is it what's expected?
Starting point is 00:34:49 Because Dustin was able to defend the takedowns. Dustin was able to stay upright and you have to beat him on the feet. But are you surprised at times when you get in there with someone, when you have an idea that they're not going to be as good at something? because like I said Dustin's a black belt he was able to defend himself up until the fifth round
Starting point is 00:35:09 and then you did to get a takedown you did exactly what we teach you I'm not bad that takedown would teach you with the leg that's the one we teach you man US don't have this technique man you have single leg double leg
Starting point is 00:35:22 and pressure the best wrestling the best wrestling country in the world right now and you're telling me we don't have something single leg double leg and pressure that's it So, again, are you surprised? Yeah, like surprise.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Honestly, I'm surprised. He defended wrestling very well, but I'm not black belt, and I still finish him in the last round. Yeah. Would you be surprised if Jack is able to defend every takedown? Every takedown?
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah. No, it's not possible. Every takedown. It's not possible. Maybe someone you can defend, but not every takedown. You think you'd take anybody down? Yeah, if I take you down.
Starting point is 00:36:02 You never took me down. I swear I have video, man. You want me to show you the picture of me and you and whose hand is Romero holding up after the match? No, we talk about picture. Take down, not about picture. I have video and I take you down. You know you've been promising this video for three fights now,
Starting point is 00:36:19 and I've never seen the video. I'll show you. Yeah, you need to show me the video. If you win this fight this weekend, what would that mean to you in Legacy? Because I think earlier in the week, I heard you on an interview, and you spoke about Legacy.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I don't know that I've ever heard you say legacy before. What would this mean to you and your legacy to become a champion in two divisions? Man, I take the title. I have the title. I have the money. Now it's the legacy. Now the second build. People fight for the second build just for the legacy, you know, most of them.
Starting point is 00:36:56 And like you, you take the second build in Madison Square Garden? No, Vegas, but I defended it in Madison Square Garden. My arena is better. What, to become double champion? Yeah. I fought Madison Square Garden too, Islam. But not for the second belt. I had two belts when I came into Madison Square Garden and left with two belts.
Starting point is 00:37:16 See? You see? You understand? I close to beat all records. You'd have to have the second belt still, Islam? And? You have more title defense? And the Hall of Fame?
Starting point is 00:37:29 You want to have a Hall of Fame? Yes. There's a lot. You can list them all. It's hard. You know what I know. You know what I know you ask me. You know.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Always. I need to some things to look and I want to beat, you know. Mine. Yeah. Yeah. You need to. So. And I will be one of the best fighter from A.k.a.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Yeah. You already one of the best of all time from A.K. You know right now, you know right now in A.K.A. history. It's me, Habib, Habib, only two over you. Now you got to, you passed Luke. And Kane, no, Kane still, you're number four. You're still number four because Kane too a little bit better than you in this career. A little bit Kane still.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I'm number for which number you are. Me? Kabib never lost. So I kind of put him number one because he's undefeated. It's hard not to lose. You lost. Think about this. Like the one time.
Starting point is 00:38:22 No, no, don't think. No, but I'm saying you could never lose. Like you were better than the guy. But you make mistake, Khabi never lost. Yeah, yeah. It's impossible to like never lose, right? So yes, I will put him no more. He's very good.
Starting point is 00:38:35 29 fights, no losses. Even sometimes you fall down like somebody kick you, you know, you can lose a fight. Even still right now, he never lost. Beat you inside the gym. Hey, he's insanely big. You know how you always say, brother, but there's a thing like you say, but there's a thing like you say, hey, you need to do this every day so you get skinny. Habib ain't skinny?
Starting point is 00:38:58 He grapple every day. Every week, Kabib is not skinny, bro. Kabib weighs so heavy right now and big. No, he's big, but not fit. I don't know if you've seen his legs, his ankle is fat. His leg and this, you see this part? It's very fat. Don't talk about somebody fat, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:18 You cannot right now. Okay. So tell me, Saturday night, how do you expect this fight to go? I hope it's going to be easy, but I don't think it's going to be easy. He's a good, you know. He's a good. I watch his many fights. Some of the striker, if you take him down, they're like uncomfortable there, but I see. He scrambles. He scrambles really well whenever the fight is the ground. He knows how to move, what to do, you know. He's good everywhere.
Starting point is 00:39:57 I hope it's going to be easy, but ready for anything. Was he bigger than you thought whenever you stood in front of him? No, he's like same toe. But maybe inside the cage he's going to be a couple of cages bigger than me. But still, if the fight there,
Starting point is 00:40:15 you come to my room and give me some food, maybe the same. I'm going to have the traditional Dagestan food. Yeah, you remember last time after the fight you give me the... What do you give me? What? Oh, yeah, I give you.
Starting point is 00:40:29 You like this one now? Yeah. It was the like biscuit with the cheese and you eat this one. Yes. It's very good, huh? You will bring it again? That's in Los Angeles. It's a restaurant only Los Angeles, Porto's.
Starting point is 00:40:41 It's very good. But some things bring me. I'll bring you, I'll bring you something. But you have to win. If you don't win, you get no snacks. No food. No. Go back to Dagestan and don't get fed.
Starting point is 00:40:54 You know how we play out there. Last thing. You guys. all come from the same place, extremely close, all these goals that are set out in front of you, to achieve them, to accomplish them. Did you ever imagine that this would be your career? Like, thinking back to that kid that walked into A.K.A.
Starting point is 00:41:15 when you and Islam, Ma Madov had two different color shirts. Remember Islam, Islam red, Islam black, because we... Not black, gray. Islam gray, Islam red. It's like, could you ever imagine that your career would be this, like the number one pound for, fighting in the world. I just came to the kid and looked at the wall, you know, you, Kane, Velasquez, look,
Starting point is 00:41:36 and I'm thinking, my picture never going to be in this wall. Why? Now I can move you all, guys. You guys finish. You've done so much. You might not have thought that you could be up there, but I'm telling you the first day you walked into the gym. It was very evident that you would be a world champion.
Starting point is 00:41:55 I never thinking, you know, I have this success. You know, I have this success. You know, thanks God, I have everything right now. belts, you know, and you guys also. Yeah. A.k.a. helped me a lot. I training, like, so hard in A.k.a. always. The bike room, I still remember this room.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I don't like this room, but still remember. More than anything, somebody asked me yesterday, like, what do you miss about fighting? I don't miss fighting. I don't miss walking out. I don't miss any of that. I just missed the opportunity to spend all that time that we had in the gym, where you're trained and you talk and you hang out. camaraderie. That's what I miss the most. Let's make one camp in a K, not like crazy hard training.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Just for lose weight, you know. With me? You, Habib. Oh, no, so you admit now. Habib maybe needed to lose a few pounds, too. This guy's a fat shamer, man. Islammaqeshv. Man, we will bring Luke.
Starting point is 00:42:51 You see Luke? Instagram? This guy's out of his mind. Which are all of him? We have to bring him back, fix his mind. His mind is broken. Islam, what happened to his mind? I don't know what happened.
Starting point is 00:43:04 This is the, without the gloves. He fought there, yeah? No, he fought without the gloves, and he fought Darren Till. Remember, Darren Till, knocked him out. This is crazy knockout. Very, very bad knockout. Luke.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Why, when he was with you in a kid, you have to teach him. To box? To do, like, to, how to live, to, don't go the bad place. I'm a man. I'm a man. He's a man. You're a man.
Starting point is 00:43:29 We can't teach one man. how to live his life, man. Why don't you call him and tell him? Why don't you call Luke and say, hey, Luke, you need to, like, maybe stop, like, going crazy all the time. You have to come to Dagestan. Two, three years. No, all life.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Keep Luke in Dagestan forever. Luke, we're going to help you, my brother. Islam Machetechel fights for the UFC Walter Way Championship this weekend, looking to become a champion in two-way classes, one of the best fighters of all time, and one of the best fighters, palm-for-pound of all time, sitting to my left right here. Thanks for checking in again, my brother.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I appreciate you. There you go. Yeah, he's a Russell guy. He can't. His button practiced the other day, yeah? Until next time, like, subscribe, and tell you friends about my YouTube channel. Peace.
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