The Highwire with Del Bigtree - ARE BOOSTERS MAKING PEOPLE VULNERABLE TO COVID?
Episode Date: May 26, 2022Newly released science is showing that the booster may increase your risk of catching COVID-19. Immune exhaustion and confusion may be to blame.#Boosters #BoosterTolerance #ImmuneExhaustionBecome a su...pporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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We've had the vaccine coverage in America, in the UK, in Ireland, in Scotland,
and we've covered on this show nearly every week showing that, you know, in spaces,
the vaccinated have higher cases, the vaccinated have higher hospitalization rates.
And no one's really able to explain this correctly within the public health agencies or the government.
In fact, they don't even admit it.
But we have here, Good Morning America.
It's really starting to sound a little bit like the high wire now.
Take a listen to this.
Right. There's a new published study out in Lancet, the journal Lancet Infectious Disease, about the fourth dose and what happens to our antibody levels.
It is not a surprise that they've released new data confirming that after the fourth dose of Pfizer or Moderna, that antibody levels rise significantly.
They surge in the several weeks after that dose.
We've known that for a while.
But here are the caveats.
We don't know how long that lasts, number one.
And our immune response, remember, is not just about antibodies.
It's about that T-cell response also, which you can't really measure as well as just a pure antibody level.
And it's about whether or not they're blocking or neutralizing antibodies to the variant that we're seeing.
So when people hear these headlines, they shouldn't be surprised.
Yes, of course, you're going to get a surge in your antibody levels.
But how long that lasts is the issue.
And it's certainly not just about more boosting for every.
people who have high antibody levels, there's the potential.
I want to underscore the potential.
We haven't seen any evidence of this, of this immune phenomenon known as tolerance,
where if you already have high antibody levels and you get another booster, that your immune
system can start to say, well, what am I needed for and can kind of start to shut down?
So we, if you're in that category of people who the FDA and CDC is recommending to get a booster,
50 and over, 65 and over with a chronic medical condition.
Yes, by all means, but everyone else don't think that more boosting is the answer.
We don't know that that's the case yet.
What? More boosting is not the answer.
I have to have full disclosure here.
Jennifer Ashton, I have worked with on the CBS show The Doctors.
Both me and the executive producer of the High Wire worked at the Doctors.
We won an Emmy Award while working on that show.
Jennifer Ashton did some great work.
In this case, I just want to let you know, Jennifer, that we covered this months ago.
We have been on this, and I'm glad you're finally, you know, bringing this known science to the forefront.
But the problem and the reason why I no longer work the doctors, and I probably wouldn't work on Good Morning America or a Today Show or anything else, is you are making a very important point.
There are people that are really at risk for immune fatigue or whatever other, you know, language we used to talk about this.
But that little moment you had, which was really trying to, you know, needle your way through a very uncomfortable reality.
How many times is that going to be said on ABC amends everybody else coming on and say, get your booster and people not knowing how high their titers are, not knowing where they're at?
Or the most important point you made, Jennifer, how about a vaccine that's no longer even addressing Amacron at all?
We are talking about a vaccine that is absolutely antiquated and virtually useless.
So why are they going to risk destroying their immune system response?
But Jennifer, I've worked with her.
I want to make that clear.
So anything I'm saying, we do have a history.
Okay, Jeffrey, it is amazing, though.
And I've watched Jennifer through the years.
We didn't always agree on the doctors either, by the way, so that's not new.
But it really is amazing to see mainstream backing away from this, just this, you know, this unstalking.
probable belief and faith, religious belief, as you will, in the safety and efficacy.
And man, you could take a million of these things and it just keep getting better and better.
Right. And one thing she said is your immune system might kind of shut down.
I grew up in the 80s, and I was taught that was AIDS when your immune system shut down.
That was the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome.
So that, to me, was really disturbing to hear, even though we've reported on it several times.
And here's one of the headlines, you're covering one of the studies that she's talking about.
This is vaccine sealing approaching for some as studies suggest fourth jab may not be necessary.
So they're talking about limiting boosting effect for the fourth dose, indicating that there could be a vaccine sealing.
But we're hearing these terms, like you mentioned, immune exhaustion, vaccine sealing.
She says immune tolerance.
There's booster fatigue.
But it's all pointing to kind of one central target is these things aren't working.
and why are we taking them in the first place?
Because the first two weren't working.
