The Highwire with Del Bigtree - CDC DIRECTOR FACT-CHECKED ON MYOCARDITIS

Episode Date: October 22, 2023

Soft-spoken CDC Director Mandy Cohen has taken to posting regularly on social media, making claims that are often hard to back with peer-reviewed science. Well this time she went too far for Jefferey Jaxen and Del Bigtree, compelling Del to demonstrate just how far off she was on a recent claim she made about the risks of myocarditis in the unvaccinated, versus the vaccinated. Del demonstrates!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

One of the most important issues that have come up from this vaccines. We have the cancers and the blood clots, but that myocarditis has so much science behind it and so many doctors and academics standing up and saying, no, we're done here. This is the line in the sand from COVID-19. So we had Mandy Cohen. She's the CDC director. She stepped in and she, her primary goal is to bring integrity and trust back to the CDC, back to an agency that lost it during the COVID pandemic because Rochelle Walensky basically went out there and was changing the messaging all the things. time and was really not a science-based communicator. So all eyes were on Mandy Cohen. What was she going to do with this, with this promise? Well, here's what she did on CDC's Twitter page.

Hi, everyone, Dr. Mandy Cohen from the CDC. I wanted to talk today about the COVID-19 vaccine and kids. While we know kids are less impacted than adults from COVID, the unfortunate news is that kids can still get sick and sometimes really sick from COVID-19 just like adults. In fact, half of the very young kids who ended up in the intensive care unit with COVID had no underlying medical reason to make us think they would get sick. They didn't have asthma or another underlying condition. The COVID virus just made them really sick. Second, the vaccine is safe for all kids over six months. Millions of doses have been given to children and their safety has been closely tracked.

The benefits to children and teens outweigh the risks, especially the risks to kids if they get COVID-19. For example, teen boys have been up to five times as likely to have heart inflammation after having a COVID infection than after getting vaccinated. Now, I have two daughters ages 9 and 11, and we plan to get them both the updated COVID vaccine. Talk to your child's pediatrician or nurse practitioner about the updated COVID vaccine today, and they can get their flu vaccine at the same time. All right. So let's talk about this for a second. I mean, I'm speechless.

I mean, honestly, it's a rare moment. I'm just like, oh, wow. Well, so first of all, CDC with this message is a global outlier. No European countries are recommending this new booster for healthy kids. So when she's saying, say for six months and older. So tested on 10 mice with no information was when we've covered this so much. But okay. Yeah.

No one thinks of saying. Yeah. And so let's just talk about messaging. So she's trying to bring back trusted messaging to this agency. Well, let's go to that Twitter post that was that video was posted. You can see here we have 7,412 comments to 554 likes. That's called being ratioed. So that's when the number of people that have something to say and comment on what you just said

way exceeds the people that just gave it a thumbs up and liked it. And we're not going to do it here because we don't have the time and we don't have the, we don't have the black boxes to censor the words, but you can take a look for yourself. There are some very colorful things that were said to Mandy Cohen and a lot of people that disagreed. So this is something that's not very popular with the statement. Thank God. Yes. And so, but you have to wonder, if you've been watching the show, how is she making this statement? If you've been following us, we've been covering studies, we're going to go through,

some of these studies, some of the big ones. I mean, we don't have time to go through them all right now, but let's go through one of these. This is a Nordic study. Remember, the Nordic countries pulled this vaccine for kids because of myocarditis. So this was looking at national health registries in Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden. They had 23 million people looking at a vaccination myocarditis risk. And let's just go right to the chart here from this study. You see males 16 to 24. remember males have been shown young young boys adolescents and teenagers been shown to have like some of the biggest pops here when it comes to myocarditis asks for the vaccine so you have fiser two fiser vaccines and you go across you see the highlighted area 8.3 per hundred thousand myocarditis pericabitis combined wow or right or 7.85 and then the other one is fysers vaccine and modern is vaccine so if you mix and match them and that's 37.94 and 38.51 respectively in those models per 100,000. Now, that's for vaccinated people for myocarditis cases and pericarditis. Now let's go to the just natural infection and see what happens there because we're told

that national infection is way more dangerous. Again, 23 million people. We have males 12 to 15 with no infection. You go all the way across. Nothing, nothing going on. Males 12 to 15, SARS-CoV-2 infection. Not much going on there. Zero events. Males 16 to 24. Now here's the really important group. No infection. you go across zero SARS-CoV-2 infection 1.37 per 100,000 drastically different orders of magnitude different but that's just one study let's go to another study this was published in the european journal of clinical investigation a peer-reviewed journal vaccine Pfizer vaccine associated myoparicarditis and adolescence risk benefit analysis this used the cdic's own vaccine

adverse event reporting system the vera system their own system it's right there they can The CDC could use it too and find these numbers, but outside researchers, independent researchers had to. And they wrote this as the conclusion. Weighing post-vaccination, mild pericarditis against COVID-19 hospitalizations during Delta. Remember, Delta was a very deadly wave, we were told. Our risk-benefit analysis suggests that among 12 to 17-year-olds, two-dose vaccination was uniformly favorable only in non-immune girls with a comorbidity. Very small, very small little section there. But then it goes on to say in boys with prior infection and no comorbidities, even worse.

One dose carry more risk than benefit according to international estimates. In the setting of Omicron, the one we're in now, one dose may be protective in nonimmune children, but dose two does not appear to confer additional benefit at a population level. And let's go to one more. This was a study looked at over 21 million people, risk of myocarditis after sequential doses of COVID-19 vaccines. It says this. The risk of myocarditis was higher 1 to 28 days after a second dose of MRI, that's a more than a Modernus vaccine and persisted after a booster dose.

Associations were stronger in men younger than 40 years for all vaccines. In men younger than 40 years old, the number of excess myocarditis events per million people was higher after a second dose of Moderna's vaccine than after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test. There you have. There you have it. And, you know, I can't believe I'm doing this, but I'm going to give the final word to someone that has been really during my journalistic career has been totally pro-vaxia. Listen to what he, even he has to say.

This is Dr. Paul Offutt when it comes to myocarditis and the vaccination. Is there a problematic link between the COVID vaccine and heart inflammation? There certainly is a causal link between vaccination and myocarditis and paracrodotitis. No doubt about it. We rest okay. Cister and tells us it's perfectly safe, no connection. Worse to be infected than get the vaccine. So you have to ask yourself, what was the CDC looking at?

at? Are they just making it up out of nowhere? Five times more risk if you get COVID than if you're vaccinated with myocarditis? How are they ignoring? Are they ignoring all studies? Did they just not see them? Well, let's look at the study they were looking at. It was published in 2022 in a non-peer MMWR. This is the CDC's own in-house journal, cardiac complications after SARS-CoV to infection. So what they did was they looked at the electronic health records looking at U.S. health care system, and we can see, let's look at the number of people, because this is where the conversation starts. So there's a graph from this, and you can see the demographic. So SARS-CoB2 infection cohort under that first column, it says 814,524.

These are essentially unvaccinated people that tested positive for a SARS-CoB2 infection. Then look at the right, you have these four columns. This is what they weighted against. First dose, second dose, unspecified dose, any dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccination. You add those up, it's almost 13.5 million vaccinated people. So you have 13.5 million vaccinated people against over 800,000 unvaccinated people. So the first thing you should really be looking at is the fact that these two pools are drastically different in size. Yeah, I wanted to sort of get to the bottom of this, Jeffrey, because I think it's really important that, you know, we talk about this.

I don't like giving a lot of advertising to bad science. But when that bad science is being propagated by the head of the CDC, we have to do something about that. And a lot of people out there in the audience, you're going to be told by friends and especially doctors, the studies have shown that myrocarditis is higher in those that were unvaccinated and infected compared to those that were vaccinated. And the studies, only one study does. Only one study does that we can see. And as you pointed out, studies with millions of people around the world, the reason no one else in the world is giving this booster to kids were done differently. but I want to show the diary of a fraudulent study, as it were.

So give me a minute here, Jeffrey, because I think it's important that people understand how they do these studies. They're little crappy studies that they point to and try and convince us of. So everybody, why don't we go over to the board over here and we'll see what we can do about this. Now, whoops, hold on a second. Let me grab that. I'm going to admit to you right now that I haven't been at this board a lot. And if you heard me prior to this show, I screamed and yelled at the scream a lot. Try to keep the screaming down.

We'll see how well we can do. But first, let me switch. Let's just show you. Now, I don't want you to look at these numbers specifically. They're not accurate. It's an ideal. Let's just make this as any study. An unvaccinated versus a vaccinated study.

In this case, it's the level of myocarditis. Now, here's what they do. And this is how they do a study like this. Let me just get this set up. I like red. Okay. Let's say that all these dots that are on this screen represent all the unvaccinated kids in an area that's going to be studied, the United States of America or the state of California, whatever it is.

All these dots are those that all these kids got infected with the COVID virus and they should be a part of this study. But they're not. When you read how this study works, the study only looks at those that sought medical attention. So that's not this group. It's this group in this circle of blood. Let's imagine blue is seeking medical attention. So these are the people that are having a hard time. The kids are getting sick.

So they're having difficulties. And so we focus on that. Let's act like this red dot right here, that this is those that maybe actually ended up going to the hospital. And somewhere in there is going to be like one little dot of the one kid that maybe died. When we look at the numbers, 0.0027 percent is the death rate of those that are infected amongst kids. So death rate is super low.

But let me explain how they do this. So when they do the study, when it comes to the unvaccinated group, this is the group they look at right here. They only in the study look at those that sought medical attention. This is the group, not the bigger group, right? Now, in a decent comparative study, which is what this is supposed to be, this is exactly, you would think they did the same thing in the vaccinated group, but they didn't. Let's just go and take a look at that. So now let's switch over to the vaccinated group.

Let's say it's the same type of situation, right? So in this case, we have all of the vaccinated that got vaccinated. There is this group that sought medical attention, and then the group that were hospitalized and those that died. Same type of situation. But in the vaccinated group, they don't take just those that had sought medical attention. Now, in this case, they decide for this group, we're going to look at all of the kids.

Everyone that got the vaccine is in their comparative group. Now, does it make sense what they're doing here? Smaller group means one out of a million, and larger group means one out of five million. This is how you manipulate a study. They do it with autism, they do it in many, many different ways. This is how you create a fraudulent study. Let me show you just in a comparative so you really fully get this.

Let's put the two right next to each other. Now, here are the groups you should have compared, all of the unvaccinated that caught COVID and all of those that got vaccinated. That would have been a fair study, but no, did they do that? Of course they didn't. As I pointed out, this is the group that they study here

and this is the group that they study amongst the vaccinated. And this is how they can say, and these are made up numbers, but you get the idea, one in a million of the unvaccinated end of having myocarditis, but one in five million of the vaccinated did there.

Therefore, it is your five times more likely to have myocarditis in the unvaccinated group. Get it. This is a fraud. This is how our government agencies are lying to us and using science to manipulate the entire story. Don't forget this. When you're reading studies, look at what group did they select? Did they select only the sick kids compared to all the healthy kids in the vaccinated group? That's how they do it, folks.

We're going to keep watching this game and showing you how the fraud is played. by your own government agencies. All right, Jeffrey, thank you for indulging me in that. I hope that that made some sense, but we see it all the time, whether it's changing timelines between the two groups, changing the size of the group. This is how they play the game and why we no longer have any trust for the CDC, nor should we.