The Highwire with Del Bigtree - CONTROVERSIAL DRUG KEY TO FIGHTING RSV?

Episode Date: November 19, 2022

Despite an aggressive media hit job on the 40 year-old Nobel Prize-winning drug, a recent study, coupled with the rising rates of RSV in children, has thrust ivermectin into the spotlight once again. ...Is the controversial drug the key to fighting RSV?Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Remember that drug it was called Ivermectin? It was an anti-parasite medication, 40-year safety track record impeccable, used all over the world. All of a sudden it became called a horse paste when Joe Rogan started taking it and talking about it. Remember the news? This is what it looked like. All right. Words of warning. Earlier this week, the Department of Health reiterated its warning against the use of a drug called Ivermectin.
Starting point is 00:00:25 A new false cure for COVID in high demand. Ivermectin. Be aware that Ivermectin has not been proven as a way to prevent or treat COVID-19. Rumors circulating on social media about its use specifically for COVID-19 in India. That is not based in reality or fact. There is no scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19. The FDA, the NIH, the World Health Organization and academic institutions across the world, Not just the U.S. are not recommending Ivermectin for COVID management. With doctors unwilling to prescribe it for COVID, people have rushed to farm supply stores, buying and taking large doses meant to deworm livestock.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Subtractor supply stores even posting these signs alerting people that the Ivermectin dewormers and injectables they carry for animals have not been approved by the FDA for people and could result in injury or death. Public health officer and agriculture commissioner warned against taking livestock drug for COVID-19. This story blows my mind because you've got some anti-vaxxers who are unwilling to take an FDA-approved vaccine. Millions of people have taken at this point, by the way. But at the same time, they are willing to put a horse-deworming medicine in their bodies. What would you tell someone who is considering taking that drug?
Starting point is 00:01:52 There's no clinical evidence that indicates that this works. Yeah, be sure to call if you have taken this drug that doesn't treat COVID, but could put you in a coma. It is really hard. We've played that obviously before. It is so hard to watch that level of propaganda, an attack on a drug that, you know, really could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives and put an end to this pandemic here in America. we've stood and we've showed all the evidence on this it was you know and the moment you know pierre corey puts it all in the line all these doctors and scientists and then for that misrepresentation the one reporter they're saying i can't believe people wouldn't take an FDA approved vaccine i have news for you honey it was not approved by the FDA it was an emergency use authorization was never properly safety tested and now we are reaping the benefits of taking products that weren't tested meanwhile studies all around the world I'm sure you're going to get into that but just watching that again it just makes your
Starting point is 00:02:57 blood boil really just for the the amount of people that listened to that and were affected by that yeah yeah it's a really low point in history no science no clinical evidence they say well just really quick let's take a look at the science and the most recent clinical evidence and this is it right here ivermectin for COVID-1990 studies from 963 scientists over 130 000 patients in 27 countries down in the middle there, 83%, 62%, 39% improvement for prophylactics, early and late treatment, 51% lower mortality from 47 studies, and that's up until September 22, and that's continuing to grow. But why are we talking about this? So COVID-19 is a highly contagious respiratory infection. And what else is a highly contagious respiratory infection?
Starting point is 00:03:46 RSV, that's the respiratory-sensitial virus that's been going around seasonally every year. We've reported on the fact that it's out of season now. It's affecting kids out of season. But we have some research here from a university in the Netherlands. And boy, we're going to go from horse paste to, I guess, cow paddies here. Rachel Maddow, I hope you're listening. So let's check this out. This is the headline.
Starting point is 00:04:08 This is late October. So this is just recently. Bovine RSV challenge model successful at preclinical evaluation of human vaccine candidates. So let's put ivermectin aside for a second. Okay. Let's just talk about this. So the bovine RSV challenge model of one and again bio-veterinarian research, as WBVR proves to be successful tool for pre-clinical evaluation of human vaccine candidates based on the calf model.
Starting point is 00:04:33 WBVR project leader Reniki Dijong and her team show that a human RSV vaccine candidate, CHA, D-155 RSV, protects young calves from bovine RSV disease. And she says here, both variants are genetically highly-reliven. related and bovine RSV symptoms and young caps share many aspects of severe RSV and human infants, including fever, runny nose, coughing, and labor breathing, says De Jong. So here we have a human vaccine. They say, hey, you know, this RSV virus that all these kids and adults are getting, it kind of resembles genetically and symptomatically what's happening in these young calves. Let's take this human vaccine and do a challenge trial and put it in these calves and see what happens. And so this is what
Starting point is 00:05:16 they're doing at this bio-veterinary university. It goes on to say this. It's so identical. They actually have this headline here, respiratory infections, RSV in children and calves. Related to the diseases in calves, the human RSV, it says, is closely related genetically to a variant of the virus that occurs in calves with respiratory problems. That's the BRSV. Remember that acronym. Because the progress of the infection is similar, calves are being studied to better understand the infection process to develop safe and effective intervention strategies. Well, Now, let's dig into a little bit of the scientific literature that we may have missed during 2021. And now we enter Ivermectin back into the fold. And here's the headline. This is an
Starting point is 00:05:57 article in 2021. Ivermectin also inhibits the replication of bovine respiratory viruses. You don't say which one, BRSV. There's the bovine RSV and four other ones in vitro. So it says in this article in this research, IVM Ivermectin is also reported to have antiviral potential against several RNA and DNA viruses. Since therapeutic use of Ibermectin in COVID-19 cases has recently been postulated, remember this is 2021, the potential antiviral activity of Ivermectin against bovine respiratory viruses, including BRSV, there it is, and those four other ones, those are all viruses are evaluated in this study. And it says, finally, this study shows for the first time that Ivermectin can inhibit infection of bovine respiratory
Starting point is 00:06:44 disease-related viral antigens, namely all five of those, those viruses that cows get at concentrations of 2.5 to 5 micrometers. Consequently, Ivermectin, which is licensed for antiparacetic indications, also deserves to be evaluated as a broad spectrum antiviral for BRD, that's bovine respiratory diseases cases caused by viral pathogens. So here in the literature, you have a college saying the RSV and calves are pretty much the same genetically and symptomatically in the kids. And they're saying here in this study, Ivermectin, which is going to basically take care of this RSV in caps, but don't touch it. If you're a human, don't touch this thing. You're going to end up in a coma, as Rachel Madam. It's unbelievable. And Jeffrey, the way you've pieced that together,
Starting point is 00:07:32 I hope people that you're watching out there watch the level of investigations going on here. In the beginning, if you turn off the channel, you would think we're promoting an RSV vaccine. You have a child and adult, a human RSV vaccine and we showed you that there's a similar virus in cows and they decided, hey, let's try this human vaccine on cows, right? And obviously, we know we're all related and where do we usually start with these things? Animal trials before human trials, right? But what that does is it shows that they showed, look, this human product works in cows. And then you go back and look at, well, what did we look at with bovine and RSV? And we see that they were actually using ivermectin back when that was a conversation for human beings.
Starting point is 00:08:16 While they were screaming horse paste and all these other things, good scientists were saying, hey, we're seeing the results in human beings. Let's try this on the cow version of RSV. And what did they discover? Lo and behold, this stuff works great. It totally blocks it, not just for the one version of RSV that a vaccine would provide, but for all five of them. And saying things like what we've now to do, what we have to do is redefine this drug
Starting point is 00:08:40 as not just being an anti-paracetic like Rachel Maddow would have you believe, or maybe Tony Fauci, but it clearly has antiviral properties. And Jeffrey, it really makes you start to wonder with the level of attack and how quickly they came out to attack this. Number one, we know that there was a real reason for that, probably because it would have erased the emergency use authorization for the vaccine, because as we know, the FDA has to prove that there's no other available treatment and especially a prophylactic treatment, right? If they can prevent you from getting a disease, then you cannot bring this experimental product and say, we need to take the risk. There's no need to take the risk because we had ivermectin the whole time. Ivermectin doesn't even have cross-relation issues with
Starting point is 00:09:26 other drugs. One of the safest drugs we know. It would have obliterated the emergency use authorization. But beyond that, what we were questioning when we were talking about this back then, if you don't remember, is is it possible that ivermectin is opening a doorway into dealing with viruses that the pharmaceutical industry doesn't want us to know about because you can buy this stuff for pennies on the dollar what if it does have antiviral properties could it deal with Ebola could it deal with all the other things that we're being told we're going to need vaccines for the future is it possible that ivermectin stands in the way of the modern vaccine program where they could vaccinate the whole world and make billions and trillions of dollars where they're only going to
Starting point is 00:10:03 make pennies if ivermectin works man all of this you know is opening up right now and it's such an interesting conversation. And to see how they're trying to shut down this science is really incredible. I want to say something while we were watching the video. I had one of the people here in the office run out to my car. I said, guess what? Literally, I just picked this up, folks. And look, I'm never going to tell you what to do with your life. But I will say this. I myself have already just re-up. I don't know if we can get in close up on that. But this is ivermectin. Given the nature of these conversations, Jeffrey, it sure looks like ivermectin is going to be successful against a lot of different viruses. Now, let me be clear to people that
Starting point is 00:10:45 are watching. I don't rush to drugs first. I'm a vitamin guy. I take lots of vitamin C. I keep my vitamin D levels up. I use good, healthy eating and exercise as my number one approach to health. I didn't even take ivermectin when I ended up having COVID, mostly because it was all gone and I happen to be out of town, so I use heavy doses of vitamin C, and that's where I start. But I also want these things inside of my house in case someone in my family looks like they're having some dramatic issues. And there, I believe, from the science that we've looked at, that this is a good product for me to own, you decide what you want.
Starting point is 00:11:21 On the high wire, we're not here telling you what to do or what to think. We're trying to show you where to find your information. And as I've pointed out before, all of the data, all the science, even this bovine study, if you're interested, will be in your inbox to read the whole thing yourself. All you have to do is when you're watching at thehighwire.com or go to our website if you're watching from Rumble or somewhere else. Just go down the page and type in your email right there. It's that easy.
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Starting point is 00:12:21 And we're really waiting with bated breath as we're going to be releasing Pierre Corrie's book on Ivermectin just around the course. Warner here, so really excited about that. Lastly, in the Ibermectin conversation, we sent out a letter from ICANN, you know, about RSV and children recently to the FDA. This would that look like. Aaron Siri, who helps us do this, took to Twitter to tweet out about this just a little bit. Here's what he said. Moderna Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials involving children identified elevated rate of respiratory-sinstitial virus, RSV. This is in the trials, they saw that the vaccinated children had a higher rate. It goes on to say, FDA's vaccine committee even voiced concerns.
Starting point is 00:13:04 RSV now spiking in children. CDC's befuddling advice on RSV is to recommend more COVID-19 vaccines. You know, Jeffrey, when we look at this, this is what is shocking about this conversation right now. They're promoting this vaccine for children in everywhere except Florida, where Governor DeSantis and the Surgeon General, Dr. Lattipo, have come out against the vaccine for kids. But one of the things that we've been concerned about is the fact that there's no risk of COVID-19 to kids. We saw it in the graphs you were showing us out of Europe, right? There was no risk from COVID-19, but in the trials, we saw an increased risk of RSV.
Starting point is 00:13:43 RSV kills far more babies and children than COVID-19 ever dreamed of. And our question right now, in this letter, hundreds of children hospitalized with RSV in San Diego. This is what's happening right now. What to know about RSV, a virus surging among young children in Canada. It's happening all across the world. Soaring RSV rates in parts of Quebec lead national cases, strain hospital staff. Austinville, elementary, going virtual after RSV flu outbreaks. You know, we're watching schools shutting down.
Starting point is 00:14:13 And the question that we have to the FDA right now in this letter is, are you increasing the risk of RSV with this vaccine as we saw in the trials? And under what circumstances then do you feel justified in recommending this? We are going to keep pressing on this, Jeffrey. I think that there may be a lawsuit in the future. They keep pushing a product. When we think about that risk-reward benefit ratio, we now know that you'd had no risk from COVID-19. So if you're saying you've got to get it to protect grandma, well, we know that's not true.
Starting point is 00:14:41 It doesn't stop transmission. Now we're finding it's raising your risk of the more deadly virus for babies' RSV. Very, very problematic, and we're going to be taking it to the FDA.

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