The Highwire with Del Bigtree - DANGER IN THE SKIES

Episode Date: February 10, 2023

FAA Lowers Bar on Heart Health For Pilots?; Medical Tyrants Caught on Camera; Pfizer Caught Shifting Goalposts, Again; New Legislation Targets CDC, WHO Overreach; Cochrane Review Shows Masks Didn’t ...Work, But this Vitamin Does; How Did Del Get So Fit?Guests: Josh Yoder, Dr. Thomas Levy, Dr. Randall Johns, Dr. Rob VasquezBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:51 Good afternoon. you are out there in the world, how about will you all stop what we're doing and step out onto the high wire? Welcome, everybody. I have to say, I'm in a great mood. I feel great. A lot of this show is going to be talking about so much that we've known how this tide is turning, but we're going to get into some very definitive studies that are showing how our health can be changed. We're going to give you some advice on things that we are now seeing actually made a difference during COVID. And if you want to know how I lost 28 pounds, I'm going to have the guys that helped me do that on in just a little bit. But first, you know, as we look back now, and much of this COVID pandemic is in our rearview mirror.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It hasn't completely gone away. We're waiting for the pandemic to fully, you know, come to a close here in America. But now we have to think about, you know, all those that, you know, got vaccinated, whether it was on purpose or they were forced to do it. they, you know, ended up sort of giving into the pressures from the work or the president in the United States, for that matter. And in many ways, I've said it from the beginning. I'm not here to eradicate vaccines from the planet. That's not what I feel like my mission is. My mission is to make sure that everybody always has a choice when it comes to their body, what goes into it. I am all, you know, about ending mandates. We're going to keep focusing on that with our legal team
Starting point is 00:02:11 and working towards that end. But now, and when I think about that, when I think about like what it means to be free and to live and let live. In most circumstances, you know, you want to get the vaccine. That's your deal. But what happens if some of the people that, you know, went along with that or were forced to get that vaccine, you know, could actually influence our lives? I think this is a growing story and something we're going to visit today. Because remember, one of the mandates was on our airlines.
Starting point is 00:02:42 And it looked something like this. The Biden administration says companies have until after the holidays, to get their staff vaccinated. Most major carriers have said they will follow Biden's rule. United Airlines is in the process of firing hundreds of employees who are refusing to comply with the mandate to get vaccinated. Today is the first day for unpaid leave for United Airlines employees. Now thousands of them around the country are having to figure out ways to support themselves and their families because they decided not to get vaccinated. The airline says it's working to find jobs where the exempt employees don't have to come face to face with customers.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Otherwise, they can take unpaid leave until it's safe for them to come back to their current positions. While it remains to be seen after the holidays, this group says there are employees willing to lose their careers before they lose their rights to medical freedom. I am all for medical freedom of choice. And that's what we're fighting for. I'm an American Airlines flight attendant. I've been flying for 29 years and I don't want to lose my job. I'm here out here representing my company and all of us that are fighting for freedom. I don't want to lose my job over these mandates. I find it extremely ironic that a year ago we were essential workers. Now we're deemed unessential, and we can be fired because we don't take a shot.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Pilots who have raised questions about these mandates have been, as noted, dismissed as criminals, terrorists. My husband is a captain of the 737 for American Airlines. Shame on you for not backing the pilots. No pilots, no fly. My husband loves his job, wants to continue to continue to. wants to continue doing his job, but does not want to take this shot. For goodness sake, we fought a revolution over a 2% T-tax.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And I don't want to force an experimental vaccine into my body. I don't think so. I believe in freedom. And I'm here to support the freedom of my fellow employees and all people across this country. I'm not going to take a mandate. I'm not going to be coerced into doing something that I don't believe in. I'm afraid that if we continue down this path, at some point, it's going to end in catastrophe. Well, obviously, we've been covering this topic from the beginning here on the high wire.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And you know, if you watch this show, one of the things I'll say is, you know, I'm all about freedom. Live and let live. If you want to get a vaccine, go right ahead. If you don't, you shouldn't have to. And I will fight for all those rights. You should always have the right to choose. But in this situation, we're talking about a mandate that forced people that didn't want to be getting the vaccination to get it in order to keep their jobs. Now, many of those restrictions have been lifted.
Starting point is 00:05:15 pilots in some airlines are getting their jobs back. Others are still fighting to get them back. But there's a bigger question, I think. In most situations, well, you're free to get the vaccine. It doesn't affect my life whether or not you got it. But when it comes to pilots, is it possible that the decision they made or the one that was forced upon them could be affecting all of us? This really came to light over the last, just over a week, where I've been seeing memes and texts and things going out talking about the fact that the FAA just changed its guidelines reading EKGs on pilots that are getting physicals. As we've been seeing, apparently they've moved it from a 0.2 second interval to a 0.3 second
Starting point is 00:05:58 interval. Now, I've seen the memes and the discussions on this, but I don't really know exactly what that means, which is why I'm joined now by my guest, Josh Yoder from U.S. Freedom Flyers and cardiologist Dr. Thomas Levy. You've been a cardiologist for 40 years. You're also the medical advisor for the U.S. Freedom Flyers. Josh, just to begin with, to sort of set the stage with because you've been on our show before, in some ways, this conversation is leading to concerns that you have had from the beginning. What happens to our health? What happens if we, you know, have some sort of demise to our health? We have hundreds of people in our hands, literally, when we fly.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Were you getting any traction on that conversation with the airlines as you were having it throughout this pandemic and these mandates? Yeah, that's right, Dell, as far as traction. I mean, we got traction back in the beginning when we were able to push those mandates back. When they realized that about 20% of their workforce wasn't going to tolerate this very totalitarian mandate, they pushed the mandate from November 24th back to January. fourth which gave us more momentum, gave us more time to organize. But unfortunately, there were so many people that were coerced and threatened into getting these vaccines.
Starting point is 00:07:11 We're now seeing the fallout, the medical fallout, and it's very concerning. Now, Dr. Levy, what does this mean? A 0.2 interval to 0.3, or sometimes I'm reading it as 200 milliseconds to 300 milliseconds. This changed. First of all, are we seeing this change in? in sort of the baseline acceptable level in any other areas of medicine. Is this been a broad change in all people
Starting point is 00:07:42 getting their hearts looked at? No, not at all. This is a single arbitrary decision on the part of the FAA to move the goalpost back so that what was previously clearly abnormal is now considered, if not abnormal, not worthy of additional testing. And that ultimately is, I think what we come to, I can't completely read what the FAA is thinking and doing,
Starting point is 00:08:06 but the logical conclusion is, why would you suddenly change an EKG parameter that's been set for 100 years and has been the standard by which cardiologists have read EKGs and how we understand the conduction system of the heart? Why would they suddenly, in the last few months of the pandemic, after which,
Starting point is 00:08:32 A lot of people have had COVID, after which a lot of people have received vaccines, both of which can put chronic spike protein presence into your body, either one or both. Why would they suddenly move this back unless they were obviously getting a whole lot more people who are either pilots or potential pilots now have this aggravating new change on their EKG and they don't want to be bothered with testing? The problem is, yes, a person as they get older can gradually develop this change. But when you have en masse, a whole definable population where a substantial number of people, all of a sudden, prolong that PR interval, that indicates a good possibility of significant conduction
Starting point is 00:09:20 system disease in the heart. And what does that mean? That means an increased chance of arrhythmia. That means an increased chance of heart block and going either into a simple or a fatal arrhythmia. And it's also been clearly associated with in this one study at Harvard a 50% increase in mortality of all causes. So this is serious business. And it doesn't mean anybody's likely to drop dead as a rule. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:51 But as you said with Josh, we're dealing with planes full of people here. and we can't be monkeying around with the heart like this. We had before the pandemic as a cardiologist an entity called myocarditis. Mio muscle cardio heartitis inflammation. In formation of the heart muscle. In 40 years as a cardiologist, 15 years actively practicing many years ago, high volume of referrals, I saw one case of myocarditis in my life, in my professional career. Now it's routine for many cardiologists to have a number of these patients on board.
Starting point is 00:10:35 What happened? What happened is we have two different diseases. Before the pandemic, before we had vaccines, before we had people who had chronic COVID, we had some people who were just unlucky enough to contract a virus, that like their heart. Right. Okay? So attack their heart.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It's a rare event. You get over it or you don't get over it. It wasn't a whole lot that medicine could do. Right. Okay, you're either your immune system kicked in or it didn't. Now, and that's all it was, just simple and significant, now we have a situation that's twofold. In the myocarditis of the pandemic, strictly mediated by spike protein, that's the part of the COVID-pathogen, that allows it it to be inserted inside the cell and then multiply.
Starting point is 00:11:27 You have evidence that there's ongoing myocardial inflammation due to the spike protein and also at the same time ongoing inflammation of the blood vessels feeding the heart and elsewhere through the body. Right. Causing an increased problem toward coagulability and blood clots. But the bottom line is, especially when you prolong this period when somebody has had chronic COVID, say, for months and even years now, more than a year, many people, they can have a certain degree of burnout. And they have a test that's very sensitive for myocarditis when the muscles
Starting point is 00:12:05 become inflamed, they release a little bit of a protein called troponin, which is evidence of the heart muscle breaking down. That should never be abnormal. And they already, by my observation, a lot of docs and cardiologists are sort of just not wanting to pay attention to these slight elevations of troponin. But these slight elevations of tropon, especially after somebody has been sick for an extended period of time, can indicate potentially a deadly degree of inflammation in a focal part of the heart that affects the conduction system. Right. And the problem is heart cells are alleged. Electrically active cells and when you put them in a situation where they lose blood supply or they become inflamed
Starting point is 00:12:56 They become electrically unstable And so football player pilot You have stressful situations a sudden surge of adrenaline or epinephrine and next thing you know that Irritable Pack of cells in the heart throw extra beats and you could go in you could have a benign Abnormal heart rhythm yeah or you could have a deadly heart rhythm. So this needs to be a paid attention to, in my professional opinion, not just the pilots, but I think everybody should get a tropon in the D-dimer and doggone,
Starting point is 00:13:34 sure, it's not abnormal because there do exist a subset of people where they pretty much come back to clinical normalcy, but they still have this low-grade myocarditis that needs to be knocked out completely. And by knocked out completely, I mean bring those test back into the normal range. Right. And nobody should be satisfied with not knowing that it's either normal or that it's abnormal and you bring it back to the normal range. And if you wasted your money and you had normal tests, great because I'm afraid we have
Starting point is 00:14:06 more crap down the road. And if something else comes up and you start feeling sick, you want to recheck those tests and see if you've reacquired spike protein by some mechanism. There's speculation about how that can happen. But the bottom line is, if you're fortunate enough to have had the vaccine but not have had complications, count your blessings. But by all means, my advice would be don't take another dose of the spike protein, which is what a booster shot is. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:43 The booster shot, when you put more spike protein, where maybe the information is. I mean, whether or not people want to argue on whether the vaccine is worse than the virus itself, you're very clearly stating, once you've caught it naturally, you've caught it, you've had it, your body's really fighting it off. With a vaccine, you keep injecting yourself with these spike proteins over and over and over again. That's not happening to a person that's naturally infected and gotten through it. And since we're seeing people getting naturally infected after having gotten the vaccine, that's another dose. So really what we're seeing is an increased dose load of spike protein that we know causes
Starting point is 00:15:22 this problem amongst the vaccine. Josh, you know, very quickly, he was talking about, you know, checking troponin levels and looking for myocarditis. To your knowledge, and I know this is something that you're really working at, we should have the pilots, you know, getting a test to see if they're suffering from myrocarditis. Is that happening yet with the airlines? It's not happening. We've actually tried to start a dialogue with the Federal Aviation Administration.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And what they came back with is a complete denial that there's any issues whatsoever with vaccine injuries or pilot incapacitation. So for a federal oversight agency that won't even acknowledge that we have a problem, they're not going to take any steps to, one, look for it or two, to treat it. And that's what we're doing at U.S. Freedom Flyers is seeking to find these pilots help. I can tell you my phone rings every single week, almost every day. I have a pilot calling me with cardiac issues or they're afraid that they have them. or neurological dysfunction is also very common. And Dr. Levy has been kind enough to work with many of these pilots and refer them out
Starting point is 00:16:22 to clinics in different places that are really making a fundamental difference for these people. So for the FAA to say there's no issue is a complete lack of acknowledgement of the elephant that's in the room. Pilots themselves have been contacting the FAA saying, look, I'm having cardiac issues and it happened from the vaccine,
Starting point is 00:16:37 and yet they won't listen. I see these statements being made, and I don't know if you can verify them where the rate, of deaths among pilots has increased over the last couple years, you know, even when we're through COVID. I mean, I'm not going to ask you. I'm sure much of that's anecdotal, and I know that the people talking to you are doing that, you know, in privacy. But would you say that there are pilots at a higher risk? Is this a conversation happening among pilots? So they're starting to
Starting point is 00:17:06 talk to each other saying I'm a little nervous. It is happening. And I know, you know, many cases one was Captain Will Wolf he was American Airlines captain you know his wife has been very vocal about what happened to Captain Will Wolf he was a healthy guy got the J&J shot and you know he was dead within days I had a brain bleed that's just one of many cases that have come out obviously Captain Bob Snow has been at show you he has been for those that don't remember Captain Bob Snow was on our show he managed to land his plane got just as he was stepping off the plane and then collapsed and has had major heart issues ever
Starting point is 00:17:39 since and you know pretty clear case of an issue there and other pilots like pilot cody flint who was an agricultural pilot down in mississippi you know he passed out while flying his aircraft both of his inner ears ruptured at the same time and there's now four specialists uh four doctors they're saying conclusively this was from the vaccine it had nothing to do with with anything else that he had he was a perfectly healthy male and i've just one you know those are just a few of many stories man just in the past you know two weeks have been multiple pilot incapacitation during flight operations. Really?
Starting point is 00:18:11 But you don't hear about it. You know, the airlines, they do their very best to cover this up. It's something that's going to continue to happen if we don't take decisive action right now to stop it. So, Dr. Levy, they're not looking at myocarditis. So is it safe to say that then the only test that you might see something like this would be these EKGs, that to be changing the sensitivity at a time where you should really be doing tests
Starting point is 00:18:35 looking at myocarditis, seeing if there's a rise in troponin levels, They're not even doing that, and now they're lowering the requirements just very quickly for my audience. Can we bring up that graph, because you sort of talked me through this, from the British Medical Journal, standardized criteria for ECG interpretation in athletes a practical tool. So that circled area is that, explain to me what's happening, what that P represents. At the very beginning of that P wave is when the electrical spark is generated by special cells inside the right atrium, upper chamber of your heart. It then propagates across the atrium, and that makes the P wave, and then as it propagates across the atrium, then it descends down into the major conduction system of the heart. So there's a little bottom, that little drop down before it fires up.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Right, and at that point in time, special fibers rapidly accelerated so that the whole heart muscle contracts simultaneously and gives you a strong heartbeat. If it just contracted slowly, then you would get inefficient contraction. So that's another reason why conduction system abnormalities can be so significant. They can also lead, in addition to the other problems we've talked about, heart failure, you know, enlarger of the heart and poor contractility. So this point two is just how long, is it since that first firing of the spark? Is it the distance between that and the actual action, or is it include? No, the point two is just from the beginning of the P wave. to the beginning of the QRS.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Got it. All right. So what they've done is said, we are accepting that that can now be elongated, that there be a longer period of time now instead of 0.2 seconds, 0.3 seconds to do that whole thing. And across cardiology worldwide, you said this is, once it's sort of above that point two, what do you tend to do as a doctor? Well, as a cardiologist, as somebody's being referred to me, because I'm a cardiologist, I'm a cardiologist and they deserve a cardiac workup.
Starting point is 00:20:37 That's why somebody comes to me. And they have that type of finding. Across the board, they should get a Holter monitor, which records all the heartbeats that you have for 24 hours. Okay. See where there's extra beats, slow beats, rapid heartbeats, the whole ball of wax. Or you have a nice normal heart rhythm, which is what you need. Yeah. The other thing too, and I got to confess, Del, this shocked me and appalled me when I first met
Starting point is 00:21:05 Josh, not too long ago, I, as a stupid member of the flying public, thought that the FAA did some reasonable cardiac checkup on their pilots. All they do is an electrocardiogram. And if you have no other symptoms, that's it. I thought, since the primary cause of sudden death in the age range of most pilots is a first-time heart attack without symptoms, you would obviously always do a stress test to make sure there's no abnormalities that require further evaluation of the heart. So it's my ardent, fervent suggestion that not only does the FAA improve its performance here, they start doing stress tests.
Starting point is 00:21:49 So literally there's so many tests they really should be doing. They're only doing one, and now they're weakening, you know, lowering the baseline of what is not acceptable. And I might add, a normal electrocardiogram, that's great, but that gives you no information at all zero as to your likelihood of having a heart attack. It just tells you you haven't had one in the past. It doesn't tell you you're not going to get one a half an hour after that EKG takes place. Senator Ron Johnson actually wrote a letter to the FAA. We're a big fan, obviously, of Ron Johnson.
Starting point is 00:22:27 He's been on the show before. Let me just read from that letter. I write to request information about changes the Federal Aviation Administration FAA made to its guidance for aviation medical examiners. On October 26, 2022, the FAA changed the acceptable PR interval to less than 0.30 seconds and remove the reference to the individual's age. According to a media report, a PR interval that exceeds 0.2 indicates a first-degree atrial ventricular block, which can cause a slower heartbeat or abnormal rhythm. The images below highlight this change in the FAA document. So it used to be 0.2.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Now it's point three. He shows both of those documents. If you see here in May 25th, 2022, you see that the lower limit is 0.21. This is the point at which there's supposed to be further studies. And then by October 26, that has changed to 0.3 seconds with no explanation. Now he sent this letter, the FAA did respond. Look at this, folks. They responded, and in their response, they basically says, according to the federal
Starting point is 00:23:28 the federal air surgeons, cardiology consultants in a review of the literature, first-degree A-V blocks between 200 and 300 milliseconds do not require cardiac workup and can be followed as a normal variant. First-degree A-V blocks in this range are not associated with sudden or subtle incapacitation, abnormal cardiac rhythms, or lost speeds. As a result, first-degree AV blocks up to 300 milliseconds were added to the FAA's list of normal variants in 2017. Well folks, I mean, again, we've talked about this on this show, as though, you know, they act as though there's no way to check these things. We have 2017's FAA requirements, and here they are. If you look at the 2017 Guide for Aviation Medical, there it is at first-degree AV
Starting point is 00:24:08 block with PR interval less than 0.21 in ages less than 51. So they're lying to us. And again, like a lot of these stories, you could say, oh, it's a misstep, or maybe we're making more out of it. But when people start shuffling things and stuffing things under their bed and flushing things down the toilet, that makes me nervous. What they said in that comment directly contradicts what was done in an extensive 2009 Harvard study over a 20 to 30 year period on a population called the Framingham population where they just analyzed all the EKGs and the problems that developed. And they found over that period of time when you just got just over point two, not all the way to point three, but just over point two.
Starting point is 00:24:56 You had twice the risk of atrial fibrillation, three times the risk of a severe enough blockage of your heart to get a pacemaker and a 50% greater chance. You wrote an article on this, right? Let's bring up that article just so we can give you. So if people want to read your article, it's in orthomoleculear.org, myocarditis once rare, now common. And in it, you make this. This is the quote. In a Harvard study extended over 30 to 40-year period. It was found that invisible PR intervals greater than 0.2 seconds had twice the risk of atrial fibrillation.
Starting point is 00:25:26 three times the risk of needing a pacemaker, meaning the presence of advanced degrees of heart block, and nearly a one and a half times increase in all-cause mortality. Furthermore, greater degrees of PR interval prolongation led to an even greater risk. Now, to be clear, to have an EKG that comes above point to in some situation, it's not something to really be alarmed by in a singular patient, and maybe you do some light tests or things like that. Certainly now we're getting to 0.3 seconds, maybe more testing, But is it fair to say that though, are there a, let me ask you this,
Starting point is 00:26:00 are there a cardiologist out there that would see a 0.31 millisecond P value there and just say, oh, you're fine and send them on their way? There might be. There are a lot of cardiologists that I would consider practice suboptimal cardiology. Right. But if somebody's being referred to you for a cardiology evaluation, and they have any abnormality on the EKG at all, especially one associated with future conduction developments, defects.
Starting point is 00:26:30 It's absolutely appropriate at a minimum of getting the Holter monitor and getting the cardiac stress test. And so even more so, I was asking before, we have a group of pilots that have all had their EKGs. This has been like a football team or a basketball team. If you had a basketball team where you started seeing a lot of these athletes, you know, going above this point to limit, Does this sort of, you know, the idea that a large group are seeing a heart change there,
Starting point is 00:26:58 should that be alarming to people in medicine? There's no question. If you have a sports group and they got their routine physicals and 95% of them had perfectly normal PR intervals and that at some point later, especially since the pandemic and the vaccines have become prominent, all of a sudden there's only 30% of them have normal PR intervals. That raises as red a flag as red can get, okay? One other thing I'd like to add, too, Dahl, is we're talking about the heart, and that's appropriate. But this COVID, as we see from people with symptoms of long-haul COVID and other post-vaccination symptoms as well, you have symptoms throughout the body, okay?
Starting point is 00:27:42 But we don't have tests for the liver or the bowel or the brain like we have for the heart. Right. So I'm submitting that anybody who has an elevation of troponin, I guarantee you there's persistent spike protein damage going on throughout the body. It's just that we're just detecting it on this test. So it's sort of a sentinel test that lets us know what's going on everywhere else. And the other thing, too, about the spike protein, very important. Spike protein is toxic and causes the problems that we talked about.
Starting point is 00:28:15 But unlike any other toxin that I know of, This is diabolical because the spike protein has the ability to replicate itself and maintain its presence. I mean, it's like getting a high dose of mercury and you manage to overcome the toxicity of that mercury, and now the mercury continues to reproduce itself, and you've got to fight it every day, every day, every day. So these are very important symptoms of what I call the persistent spike protein syndrome. Yeah, Josh, this is work you've been focused on. You and I are just lay people when it comes to the science and the medicine behind this. But when you look at EKGs and they have a standard that has lasted, as we've heard, for 100 years,
Starting point is 00:29:00 and then only one industry makes a change right at the time where people like yourself are saying, we are very concerned about some abnormalities we're seeing in pilots that they're coming to me. Should we not jump to that conclusion that this is because they must be seeing a big rise and changes in the hearts of pilots? I think that's a logical conclusion to come to, and we've even asked the FAA to present the new science which they claim to have. However, rather than present any science, they continue to say there's nothing to see here. We're not going to investigate it, and that's why we're so concerned. If they wanted to be transparent, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. But unfortunately, transparency is not something that is a fundamental thing with the FAA.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Is there anything, do you think people need to start like requesting unvaccinated pilots? Or is that, do you see any of that happening? Are there conversations about whether or not we should put unvaccinated pilots in maybe as one of the pilots to just make it safer? Well, as far as the airline industry goes, that's not even a possibility at this point. Around 80% of airline pilots are now vaccinated. So it's not something that we can realistically do. However, I have had numerous wealthy people and charter companies reach out to me looking for unvaccinated pilots for their private jets and small companies. So there certainly are people that are becoming aware of the issue and they've been making changes.
Starting point is 00:30:18 This started all the way back in the fall of 2021 when I received the first call, but it's becoming more prominent now. All right. I know that you are involved in fighting for pilots' rights and also really in many ways that's protecting those of us that fly in airplanes. You have some lawsuits out there. Where's the best way for people to be able to sort of help and contribute to the work that you're doing to fight for this very important issue? Sure. People can visit our website, usf freedomflyers.org. They can donate there if they would like. There's also a give send go that's out of social media that's going. We have it here. US Freedom Flyers givesendgo.com slash USFF. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:56 And we're also, what we're doing right now is we're raising money for litigation against the FAA. We've tried to have dialogue. That hasn't worked. They don't listen to doctors like Dr. Levy. They haven't listened to our research team who's in front of them with the new documentation, the changes. And then also the vaccine injured pilots, hundreds of vaccine injured pilots who are demanding that they do something. And yet the FAA comes back and they say there's nothing to see here. You haven't been damaged by the vaccine. And we've seen no pilot incapacitations. This is atrocious.
Starting point is 00:31:22 They've said they've seen no pilot incapacitations, even though I've had Captain Snow on here. You've listed some of very public situations. I mean, it's no different than what we're seeing from, you know, the end. FDA, the denial, the CDC, the denial. And it's really disturbing because you would think that these are regulatory agencies that are supposed to be protecting us, not protecting the industry, but protecting the people that are, you know, that are trusting these pilots and the people that work with them. This isn't just about the pilots and getting them help. It's also about protecting your safety as an airline passenger. I'm sure most people weren't aware until
Starting point is 00:32:00 this show of these changes that were happening. Yeah. But if this is something that concerned, you need to get involved you know millions of passengers are potentially affected every day by the complete malfeasance that we see coming out of the FAA currently and and I've seen some doctors and other people in the news say well you know that's putting too much of a load on the FDA the testing is going to be so involved no no it's you have your abnormal EKG or your prolonged PR interval EKG the next day you get your stress test and you get your your proponent and you get your D-dimer level test?
Starting point is 00:32:37 Just dive deeper. Prove us wrong. There's no significant time slowing of getting pilots possibly validated. And let me say this. I want to make this clear. I don't want anybody to think that I'm saying a pilot with a PR interval greater than point three shouldn't fly. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:32:56 But he or she shouldn't fly until the tests are normal and appropriate further testing has been done. for their safety as well as obviously with the public. Right. Well, it's so important. One of the things you pointed out is there has been some pushback to saying, oh, you're making a big deal out of this, but we aren't actually seeing any cardiologists taking to the news to say,
Starting point is 00:33:18 this is ridiculous, you're making a big deal of this. There's no there there. We don't see any cardiologists saying that yet. Physicians and maybe especially cardiologists are not humble people. They're pretty proud. They're strut around, king of the hill, kind of arrogant. And I think even if a cardiologist would equal my qualifications says, well, I think Dr. Levy's making a mountain out of a molehill, they know it's an abnormality. And they know very
Starting point is 00:33:47 possibly that what I'm saying will eventually be gradually accepted. And if they come out as some sort of expert saying, I'm full of crap, then they end up looking ridiculous down the road. So I don't really anticipate any qualified cardiologist talking against this. Now, there'll be a lot of journalists. There'll be a lot of family docs and general practitioners and chiropractors that they can pay to be on their side saying, Dr. Levy is full of grab. But you're not going to see a cardiologist come out and say what I'm saying is wrong. They can say, well, maybe he's exaggerating or maybe we shouldn't be that concerned,
Starting point is 00:34:27 but they can't say there's no concern. Well, that makes me very concerned. And I think that's why you're here. I really appreciate that you guys are taking the road that you're getting this word out. It is very, very important. And there's a lot to learn. This is, you know, as we look at all these things,
Starting point is 00:34:42 I just keep thinking there's so much to learn at this time about COVID, about the vaccine, about our health. And, you know, groups like pilots are actually a perfect space to be recording what we're learning and doing. You know, we have the records of their EKGs throughout all these health tests. There's so much to learn there. And instead, we're going the opposite direction, lowering the bar and sticking our heads in the sand as though nothing is happening.
Starting point is 00:35:08 That is a recipe for disaster. And it's, you know, it's why I know you guys are courageous. You're putting it all in the line. I want to thank you for taking the time to join us today. Thank you for having us. All right, absolutely. Keep up the great work. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:35:21 All right. Now for more information, it's time for the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey, you know, it's an amazing just to think about how many great and courageous individuals have come across our show, you know, Josh Yoder, and then you've got Dr. Levy joining us now to really talk about the plight of so many people being affected. And so many of these people are having to be silent because of what's, you know, it's going to risk their careers, their livelihoods, and their ability to take care of their families. But it also is affecting us. So many of these things are really intertwined when we look at them. Right. And as we're ending the COVID emergency now, just last week we reported on that. Biden is going to wind that down on May 11th, the public health emergency. So it kind of leaves all of these cards in the table and a lot of unknowns. And, you know, people are asking for amnesty like the Atlantic was saying, let's just forgive and forget. Let's just move on with our lives. But there's a lot of people, including politicians now that are wanting some answers and demanding change and demanding things like the botched response never happens again. So we have. Texas congressman Chip Roy. He actually put he sponsored a bill and here it is see if you can figure
Starting point is 00:36:39 out what his bills about. It's called no taxpayer funding for the World Health Organization Act. I love it. It does exactly that. So remember, Trump ended the funding, the U.S. funding for the World Health Organization because in large part, how the WHO handled the early coronavirus response and botched that. Biden rescinded that, brought it back, basically infused W. show with $200 million. And so this act is going to try to just yank that out again and make it make it law. But then we have in Wyoming, I remember when we're reporting on that, by the way, though, that when Donald Trump pulled funding from America out of the WHO, then the highest, you know, funder became Bill Gates through several different arms of the work that he does, but pretty wild.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And then China, you know, you're like China and Bill Gates were left running at WHO, America, sort of out of there. Just very interesting, you know, when you think about continents and countries donating, you don't really think of Bill Gates as a country, but there he is in the WHO alongside other countries. It's so bizarre. Yeah, exactly. And the WHO really just can't catch a break here in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:37:49 So we have Wyoming Representative Jeanette Ward, and she put forward a bill, a sponsor to Bill, the main sponsor, and this is House Bill HB-0143. And under Article 10 of this bill, there's a list of prohibited health organizations. And it says this, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the World Health Organization shall have no jurisdiction in Wyoming. And any requirements, mandates, recommendations, instructions, or guidance provided by either organization shall not be used in this state to justify any mask vaccine or medical testing requirements and shall have no force or effect in Wyoming. These are fighting words, Del. They are. I love it. I mean, I don't know how many people ultimately sign on to something like that, but I love that we've got politicians out there that are now, you know, basically drawing a line in the sand as they should be after this debacle by our regulatory agencies.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And it shows how far the conversation has moved to actually have these conversations at a political level. I mean, before this would be heresy. You never see this bill even moved from a desk. So that's huge. And it'll be interesting to see what this does with, the international health regulations from the WHO that a lot of people are concerned about trying to take over sovereignty for any future pandemics here in the United States. Right. And then we have individuals like Jim Jordan making some big moves here too. He's the U.S. chair for the House Judiciary Committee.
Starting point is 00:39:15 And here's a headline that's really making the rounds. Jim Jordan demands Biden's Education Secretary account for asking FBI to investigate angry parents at school board meetings. Now, remember, it's the national social. school boards association. They asked the Biden administration to use statues, any statues they could, including the Patriot Act, to frame parents that were protesting. They were saying violently protesting, but parents showing up at school board meetings demanding ends to masking of their children, demanding end to school learning of work from home kind of stuff from school and remote learning
Starting point is 00:39:50 because these kids were losing out so badly. They were trying to frame them as domestic terrorists. This was a huge story in 2021. So Jim Jordan is now looking for the receipts. He has the education secretary. That's Miguel Cardona. And then also he's asking for documents from the Department of Justice. The FBI as well. So this is a big move.
Starting point is 00:40:10 It's the first, a really large set of subpoenas from that house. So that's due March 1st. So we'll see how that works out too. We'll be reporting on that. And then on the vaccine side, we have some really some demands for accountability. This is directly on the FDA's website. This is a citizen petition here. You can go, anybody watching here, can go to the FDA's website, read this, make comments,
Starting point is 00:40:31 citizens petition from coalition advocating for adequately labeled medicine. I just want to go through a little bit because when doctors, you know, doctors, the big conversation is, I can't give my patients informed consent because the science is moving so fast and there's so many unknowns and no one's really admitting to like the rates of myocarditis and the labels just are not being updated. So this coalition is saying, put this on the labels. This is now science. We have this information.
Starting point is 00:40:57 So let's read what they says here. It says, actions requested. Petitioner requests that the FDA amend current labeling of Pfizer-Modern a COVID-19 vaccines for all authorized or approve indications of populations in the following ways. Number one, add language clarifying that phase three trials were not designed to determine and failed to provide substantial evidence of vaccine efficacy against SARS-CoV-2 transmission or death. Once again, how did you know that they didn't stop transmission?
Starting point is 00:41:23 They didn't test for it in the trials or for death. It wasn't adequately powered. So as I said before, in a country where you had the PCR test in order to go to work or go to school, the one place you were safe from a PCR test was actually being in the Moderna and Pfizer trials. The irony of that, you see the smoke coming out of the top of my head? It just blows your mind. Exactly. Well, well said. So let's go.
Starting point is 00:41:49 This thing has several numbers on here. I just pulled out a couple really interesting numbers, just to highlight really what we're talking about here. So this is number five out of this position. Add a clear statement disclosing that the Pfizer phase three randomized trial in pregnant women was completed as of July 2020, but there have been no results reported. So we have the FDA and CDC promoting it to pregnant women, but the results are not reported yet. Goes on to say this, seven, the following adverse event types should be added to the adverse reaction section of labeling. A, multisystem inflammatory center, MIS, and children, pulmonary embolism, sudden cardiac death, neuropathic and auto, auto, netherness. disorders. It also says the following reproductive health and lactation-related adverse event type should
Starting point is 00:42:31 be added to the adverse reaction sections labeling. A, decreased sperm concentration, B, heavy menstrual bleeding, hello Pfizer whistleblower person, detection of vaccine MRI and breast milk. This is all known science now. And it also is calling for add frequency data for clinical and subclinical mildcarditis. Obviously, a big one there. But, you know, adding that would give at least some doctors a chance at giving informed consent. And as we reported on just a couple weeks ago, Australian doctors have just received notice that they may not be covered for indemnity for the injections they give,
Starting point is 00:43:07 but they still have to give informed consent. So this would be very important for them as well to really stand the right side of the law. So anyone can sign up to this? Where do they go to sign up? And by the way, we did look through it and vet it. Everything that is there is accurate. So if you're putting your name to it, this is a great thing to do.
Starting point is 00:43:21 You know, just to let our voices be heard and let them know. we are watching them right there are you know pitch forks and and torches outside of the city gates now right exactly and also you know moving on here we're talking about marocarditis there adding that to the label it needs to be added to the label so people know what to expect if they take this shot what might be a side effect the fta the burt back committee if anybody's watched this before Pfizer representatives scientists march in there and they present their data and that's usually kind of held up as like, this is gold standard data from the company making the product, and then the FDA moves forward with that. So when FDA gave the licensing, the EUA to Pfizer's
Starting point is 00:44:07 MRI COVID shot, they gave them some stipulations. They said, we're going to give these EUA, but you have to do some stuff for us. You have to make sure that you continue studying any of these issues that come up in populations. Obviously not a perfect system. It's already out in the world giving to hundreds of millions of people. And they're not even, they're not even getting their shoes on and start studying this. But putting that aside, they had homework to do. And that was given to them by the FDA. And one of them was this. And this was directly from their 2021 approval letter from the FDA. And it says they need to study, they may have a sub-study to prospectively assess the incidences of subclinical myocarditis following the third dose of commonarity. That's their Pfizer vaccine.
Starting point is 00:44:49 in a subset of participants, 16 to 30 years of age. Very important because we know that's where a lot of the myocarditis is happening, especially in males. Now, if you look at the bottom there in the highlighted spot, final report submission, December 31st, 2022. They should have this report in their hands. And by the way, they're supposed to be completed on June 30th, 2022. So they're giving them all that time to finish it up.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah, yeah, exactly. And what we just had was a Virpac committee talking about maybe annual boosters, talking about now we're adding the note. other, we have the bi-valent vaccine. We had another strain of the virus in there. So obviously, this is a really important topic to have this data from Pfizer to talk about in that committee. They didn't have it. Why didn't they have it? They should have because it was due that day. It was due on December 31st. If you go to FDA's website now, you go to post-marketing requirements and comments. And if you look at that under the original projected completion date of that same
Starting point is 00:45:42 study, now all of a sudden it says June 30th, 23. What? That was, it's kind of just, just slipped in there. They gave them a little bit of an extension, a little extra credit there on the homework. And this was reported, Epoch Times reported this, the FDA quietly changing, and at least some people had their eye on this. FDA quietly changes end date for study of heart inflammation after Pfizer-COVID vaccine. That is just so shady. I mean, they rushed this thing out within a couple of weeks, and you can't get a decent myocarditis study done in a year. Now you need two years. I mean, they're basically extending this a year while people are getting it, while athletes, are collapsing on fields all over the country, high school students, junior high students,
Starting point is 00:46:22 all in our news feed, we're watching these poor kids, you know, die grabbing their chest or being rushed to the hospital, and oh, just take a little more, and you have to imagine. Jeffrey, I'm sorry, maybe I'm jaded. I don't have any proof of this, but I'm going to assume that this study is done and nobody likes what it says. And let's think about, let's be honest. The FDA has pushed this debacle on our entire population, hasn't given us. up, keep saying, give it to your kids. Oh, let's give one every single year. Are they really, really going to see a study? And spies are going to hand them and say, you know what, sorry, but as it turns out, this thing is causing heart attacks. Oh, great. I'm glad you told us that.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Let's take it to the American public and let them know. It's just, our system doesn't work like that anymore. It's really unfortunate. I don't see that happening as well. And our system is somewhat broken in that response. And this is why there's so many people talking about these things now, They're leading the response. And I want to say one thing, too, about the Pfizer executive, I guess you want to call them, caught on tape by Project Veritas. This is how a lot of these adverse events are being reported. So we're talking about menstrual cycle issues now.
Starting point is 00:47:33 This brings them to the forefront to make the FDA and to make the policy makers pay attention to this and get these warning labels up and make moves on this. So it's actually the people that are driving, the media that are driving these adverse events and getting this to the public. So that's why it's so important for this. We unfortunately can't rely on the FDA. But over in the UK, we reported on this too. This is what they're doing there.
Starting point is 00:47:55 The UK is actually winding down their booster program. So this is something that is not happening, obviously, in the U.S. Universal jabs to be wound down as under 50s given just weeks to get boosters. Now, that was a couple weeks ago. So let's check in and see how that's going. This is the most recent headline here. Staggering, it says, 96% of NHS, that's a national health service there in the UK. appointments for MRNA top-up jabs still available with just days of latest vaccination campaign to go.
Starting point is 00:48:24 No one wants them, Dell. No one wants these things anymore. Folks, it's over. We've won. We have won the messaging battle against the greatest propaganda machine the world ever built. Now, just the product itself obviously sucks so bad that it's become obvious to even those that were zealots with it. Now, they're only getting 4% to sign up and go in and get that. I don't know what it is over this.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Is it fifth or six shots? Yeah, I lost track at this point. So, well, that's what the temperature of the people is. Let's look at what the science is saying. And also the UK government's own data itself. This is going to blow you away. So there's a scientific paper. It's an analysis.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It's in the journal of vaccine. And it's serious adverse events of special interests following MRI COVID-19 vaccination and randomized trials and adults. And we're looking at this, just to frame the new UK data that came out. And it says here, combined the MRNA vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interests of 12.5 per 10,000 vaccinated. Dale, you and I come from a, I guess you want to call it an older era, where we were drilled into our head, one in a million, one in a million, one in a million, that's the only time.
Starting point is 00:49:37 It was literally what we've been up against and what I've been beating the door down saying, that is an insane statement. You have no proof of that. And so now we have studies. And this is, a far cry from one in a million, I think 12.5 out of 10,000 is about one in 800 now. So now they're admitting severe adverse events in one out of every 800 people that receive it. All right. And these, again, are serious adverse events of special interest. That's your myocarditis. That's your blood clots, vasculitis, stuff you don't want, stuff that'll put you in the hospital. And so now let's look at the UK data with that 12.5 per 10,000 in mind. And that's the science there. Now we look at this UK data. This is
Starting point is 00:50:16 is the estimation of number needed to vaccinate, the number of people that need to get the shot to prevent a COVID-19 hospitalization for primary vaccination, booster vaccination, third dose, and that's from autumn 2020 to spring 2023. And now look at this chart. Now, we're going to look at the 16 to 19-year-olds because that's really where the myocarditis is happening, a little younger as well. And it says there in the in the orange, that's the boosters, two plus one, three shots. You need 76,000 people to prevent one hospitalization. 76,000 people. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Now, let's go to the 20 to 29 year olds. You need 17,600 people to prevent one hospitalization. And that's what we're looking at with that chart. 17,600 people from the 20 to 2029 age group to prevent one hospitalization. So I mean, really, if you just take that number, 17,000 is just roughing it out. At one, and so you have a 1 and 800 chance of ending up in the hospital if you get the vaccine, you have a one in 76,000 chance of protecting some from going in the hospital, meaning everyone else is at risk by getting the vaccine. And those numbers just really don't add
Starting point is 00:51:29 up. And when you look at those numbers, right, 1 in 76,000, that means if every 800 someone is going to hospital from the vaccine, you know, let's call, I'm just going to round up to a thousand. That means 176 or more people are going to the hospital from the vaccine when only one would have been protected. So we finally have that risk-reward ratio. Clearly, the vaccine is worse than the illness itself. Right. And so looking at this data, you can say community immunity is kind of risky to put that out there, to try to get to it, to try to get that one person out. Now, let's look. And so they've abandoned stopping transmission. They abandoned stopping infection. Hospitalizations, as you can see, is kind of a steep climb. But severe hospitalization, ICU.
Starting point is 00:52:16 and deaths. Those are the big ones. Those are the ones they still defend. So let's look at this UK data. Numbers needed to vaccinate to prevent one severe hospitalization. Let's look at this 20 to 29-year-old data, the booster shot. 418,100 people need that shot to get one person to protect them from severe hospitalization. 16 to 19-year-olds, you need 193,500 people to get two shots and a booster to prevent one severe hospitalization. That's a UK data people. This is what we're looking at here. This is incredible numbers. Right. That is outrageous. I mean, in some ways, it speaks to really how the virus is turned, you know, certainly turned into a nothing burger. I think for all those under the age of 70 that we're healthy, it's always been a nothing burger. But now you have a vaccine
Starting point is 00:53:08 that's injuring one in 800. That is not a nothing burger. That is a serious, serious problem. Right. And so let's let's really move on to other government mandates, other government ways that they were trying to, I guess, help during the pandemic. And let's look at just for a reminder for people, because I know everyone wants to put this behind, but let's look at what they did with the mask. Take a look. Whether homemade or medical grade, nowadays, it's not hard to spot them around Chicago, Max, that are meant to reduce the spread of COVID-19. In order to avoid the acquisition and transmission of this virus, which is highly transmissible, you should have uniform wearing of masks. We can turn this thing around in two to three weeks if we can get a critical mask of people wearing face coverings, practicing at least six feet of social distancing. This is the moment to get it under control.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Wear masks. If you are going to be in a situation in public, where you may come into contact with other people in a situation that is not socially distanced. You must have a mask. That is by executive order. The mayor of Los Angeles gave his support to masks in public on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Let me lead as mayor and let people know this is how we're going to be seeing each other. The one thing we do know, these masks make a gigantic difference. I would do everything I'm much possible to make it require. required that people had to wear masks in public. You wear a mask not to protect yourself. You wear a mask because you don't feel well
Starting point is 00:54:45 and you're being thoughtful and protective of other people. I don't know if you're infected. You don't know if I'm infected. And in that case, the best way that we can go forward is if everybody keeps their droplets to themselves. We know these masks make a difference. The best way we can move forward is to put this mask on your face and your kids' face.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Well, I hope there is science to suggest that was helpful. But, you know, hey, glad it's over now, right? Unfortunately, these are the headlines coming out, you know, really going back to school in January here. More U.S. schools institute mask mandates as COVID cases rise. These were temporary, but it's still happening. And this is Marin County. COVID in California, mask mandate returns to four Marin County elementary schools. That was just a recent headline.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Even the WHO, you know, think of those bills trying to defund that WHO. This is the WHA's updated guidelines, infection, prevention, and control in the context of coronavirus disease. This is their version 4.0 of the Living Guideline. If you look what it says, number one, a strong recommendation for mass use in community settings in high-risk situations. So remember, the high-risk situations, that's with the CDC. Also, that's their stance. They didn't just say mask mandates are gone and they're going away and they'll never come back for COVID.
Starting point is 00:55:58 They're tying it to community transmission, just like the WHO is. So that's where you're getting these. Every flu, every viral season now, are we all going to have mask mandates getting to stores and our schools and our workplaces. I mean, this is sort of their dream, right, is to sort of turn us into those hypochondriacs. I suppose we should be wiping down every doorknob that we see also. Right. And so we may have some science now. This was from the Cochrane Collaboration. For people I don't know what that is, this is a global network of researchers. Some say they represent the gold standard in research. And they look at evidence-based medicine to try to inform,
Starting point is 00:56:38 from policymakers and interventions like masking. And this is a study that just came out. This is an updated study on the information they have already put out. So definitely a good read for people I want to read this. Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses. They go into hand washing, things like that, and masks.
Starting point is 00:56:56 What do they have to say about masks? They say this. Wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza like illness, COVID-19 like illness compared to not wearing masks. They looked at 78. studies to look at this analysis. They also say wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of laboratory confirmed influenza or SARS COVID-2 compared to
Starting point is 00:57:17 not wearing masks. But what did they do? What did they find when looking all this? They found that the harms of wearing masks were rarely and poorly reported. So you have all these people looking for masks, but hey, let's not look at the damage they're going to do. Let's not let's not study that at all. It's no big deal. But let's look at the fact that they're not working. So that's what they found. in this meta-analysis basically of 78 different pieces of literature on this. For people out there, I just want to say, I mean, you call us a lot, you're like, what is the best study to show that masks don't work? This is it. I mean, we had Deney Randcourt on that laid this out very early on, all the studies that exist, crunching those numbers.
Starting point is 00:57:56 But the Cochran collaboration is literally the epitome of integrity. They are, you know, totally unbiased, and they do not work for the pharmaceutical institutions or anybody. when they're delivering this to you, this is science at its best, and they are telling you there was no effect. We've had multiple studies that have said that. They have looked at all those. You said over 70 studies now that show that this is a joke,
Starting point is 00:58:23 that this doesn't do anything. I mean, you only have to see the people, the air pockets around their nose. Like, how do you even think this is working? I mean, it boggles my mind, but, you know, at least they did the science went beyond, just the obvious you see with good obvious, conservation that this is, you know, I think in the end it's just to demoralize us, right? And to sort of
Starting point is 00:58:45 keep us in line. Yeah. And a piece on that Cochran review, you know, we look at this data, we look at the evidence and the timing. And we keep wanting to believe, you know, that we're just following some events. There's just, you know, random things that happen. And it's not, it's not a coincidence. But Tom Jefferson, he's a British epidemiologist. And he's one of the founding members of the Cochran collaboration. He actually did an interview. He rarely does interview. It was a written long form interview. And he talked about this. And he helped put out, he was one of the main authors on this paper. He helped put out the first part of this study. And this was in November 2020 in the Cochran Review. And they looked at it. And this is what he said. He said, in early
Starting point is 00:59:26 2020, when the pandemic was ramping up, we had just updated our Cochran Review ready to publish. And at that point, they were looking at mostly flu studies, how mask and interrupt flu. transmission. He said, but Cochran held it up for seven months before it was finally published in November 2020. Those seven months were crucial, said Tom Jefferson. During that time, it was when policy about masks were being formed. Our review was important and it should have been out there. And that's now on record. And that did happen. So you have to ask yourself, what's going on? Who made a phone call? Why did the Cochran Review hold that up? Because they had the studies. Obviously, they weren't COVID studies because COVID was just starting, but they had the evidence saying, out of abundance of caution, we know this doesn't work for flu.
Starting point is 01:00:11 There's no need to put these on all these kids for developmental harms, for all the list of things that may happen. And so, you know, they have some answering to do. But, Del, you know, you mentioned the most sound piece of science here. And on the high wire, we like to stay black and white and really just keep to the science. And I think this might be the final say in masking when it comes to this study. And here's the headline out of this, but you show this with your neighbors. Unattractive people are more likely to keep wearing face masks in a post-COVID era. Studies suggest they say people who consider themselves attractive are less likely to wear face masks.
Starting point is 01:00:46 And there you have it, folks, the science says it's written. There it is. Well, now we know the secret behind those that are still wearing masks. That's right. Just find a good dentist and then, you know, release the mask. Now, let's look on the flip side of government interventions, which is personal responsibility, which is how you can do things in your own life to help your own health, stuff that governments won't touch with a 10-foot pole.
Starting point is 01:01:12 One of those is vitamin D. And it was really briefly spoken about in the UK Parliament by Health Secretary Matt Hancock. This was early on in the pandemic. And he was asked about vitamin D. Take a listen to what he had to say. All right. Vitamin D is one of the many things that we've looked into to see whether it reduces the incidence or the impact of coronavirus.
Starting point is 01:01:35 And I've seen reports that it does. So we therefore put it into a trial. And unfortunately, the results were that it doesn't appear to have any impact. So that is the latest clinical advice, which, of course, is always kept under review. Yeah, so there you have it. Move along. The imperial model rocks. We believe in that.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Millions could die. Vitamin D doesn't work. we're doing our due diligence. That's right. What a chill that guy is, by the way. I mean, just the ultimate. Yeah. And you know, he said, so we looked at it ourselves because we heard there was some evidence
Starting point is 01:02:12 that it may work. So we actually looked at it. Our researchers, they must have missed this study or didn't really update their studies with this one. This was in October of 2021. We knew this. COVID-19 mortality risk correlates inversely with vitamin D status. This is an amazing study.
Starting point is 01:02:27 It should have been front page headlines for months. And it says this, this is what the researchers right. This is the background of this research. They say much research shows that blood calcidial 25 hydroxy vitamin D levels correlate strongly with SARS-CoV-2 infection severity. But at that time, there is open discussion regarding whether low D3 is caused by infection or if deficiency negatively affects immune defense. So the question was obviously like, well, you have a low D because you have SARS-CoV-2,
Starting point is 01:02:57 it just depletes your D clearly. But this study looked at that and they said this, Regression suggested a theoretical point of zero mortality at approximately 50 nanograms per milliliter of D3. And they concluded the data sets provide strong evidence that low D3 is a predictor rather than just a side effect of the infection. They go step further. They say despite ongoing vaccinations, we recommend raising serum 25 OHD levels to about 50
Starting point is 01:03:23 nanograms per milliliter to prevent or mitigate new outbreaks due to escape mutations or decreasing antibody activity. I mean, if we would just listen to that, maybe we would have booster programs in perpetuity here that's happening. I remember one reported on that. It was, it was amazing, amazing information. And so now a new study with vitamin D. So that was from October 2021. We have a new study that came out. This is a meta-analysis, again, looking at all the literature out there, kind of the final say in vitamin D in COVID. And this is a study right here, if you'd like to share this, protective effect of vitamin D supplementation on COVID-19 related intensive care hospitalization and mortality, the big three triad there.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Obviously, that's what we're trying to fight. After the reviewers screening, only five randomized controlled trials were found to be suitable for our analysis. So again, we have all these masks studies, everything. We have five trials on vitamin D. That's how sad the state of research is. We performed a meta-analysis, they said, and the TSA. This is a trial sequential analysis.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Vitamin D administration results in a decreased, risk of death and ICU admission. And they go on to say in their discussion, the results of the meta-analysis and respective TSA suggests a definitive, definitive association between the protective role of vitamin D and ICU hospitalization. That really, at this point, is the final say on this here. And so there you have it, folks. I mean, you know, a lot of you are like, you know, where are the solutions? The solutions are in a health. It's a lot of what we're talking about today. And I'll be honest with you, Jeffrey, I went recently and got some blood tests done. And I was shocked, my vitamin D is low.
Starting point is 01:05:02 And I spend time outside. I can't quite figure it out. But those things matter now. We recognize and look, whether there's new variants or whatever next crazy thing comes flying, you know, onto our shores. We know that vitamin D is this building block of your immune system.
Starting point is 01:05:21 And so it's time, folks. You know, we're through it, all the, you know, we've sort of gone through the panic of it. It's now time, I think, to prepare for the future. I mean, Bill Gates is telling you, there's another virus. is coming, I would take his word for it. I don't know how he knows that. I don't know what he's got up his sleeve, but I would take his word for it when they're telling you to prepare. This is how
Starting point is 01:05:37 you should be preparing. Get your vitamin D levels up. I'm personally working on that right now myself. Right. And these are pennies on the dollar. You can do this to help. And it doesn't involve government overreach, masking your kids, putting a 12.5 per 10,000 severe adverse event shot in your arm. So what's another thing you can do? Again, personal respect. responsibility. This is even free. So remember, during the coronavirus response, we'll call it, gyms and fitness centers were declared non-essential businesses. Liquor stores were open, but not gyms. And just to remind people, I think I'm making this up, if you don't remember, this is the headline here, the gyms and fitness chains closed during the coronavirus pandemic and what some are offering.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Instead, they're doing virtual classes and things like that. Same with churches. But now we have a study. Regular exercise is actually beneficial against COVID, protects against fatal COVID. That's a new study shows. And this is the study here, associations of physical inactivity and COVID-19 outcomes among subgroups. Now, there's been over 25 studies,
Starting point is 01:06:40 but on physical activity, and they've shown extremely positive benefits for COVID. But some of the questions were, is it across all demographics and age and comorbidities? And also, what never looked at really, what kind of exercise as far as moderate, it, extraneous. So this is what they say here in this study. It goes on to say dose response effects were strong. For example, patients in the quote, some activity category had higher odds of
Starting point is 01:07:10 hospitalization, deterioration, and death than those in the always active category. So more exercise better. But then besides this, this is incredible. Results were generally consistent across sex, race, ethnicity, age, and BMI categories, and for patients with cardiovascular disease or hypertension, attention. So basically no matter. You are overweight, but you're exercising, you're doing way better than someone that's not getting the exercise that is at your same BMI or, you know, that's really interesting. Yeah. Across the board, exercise is only going to help you. It cannot hurt you in this instance. And again, we're looking at hospitalization, deterioration, and death. So three things you don't want.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And this is a big study here, vitamin D exercise. I mean, you can't beat it, Del. Yeah, fantastic. Really great reports. I love it when we get to give out some information, which is not only hopeful for the ship that's going on, but hopeful for what we can actually do to not be so vulnerable in the future. Jeffrey, great reporting.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Really appreciate it. All right. I'll catch you next week. All right, well, look, you know, we're all about being fair and balanced. And yes, we're talking a lot about all the politicians, all the laws that are now coming onto the books or attempts by politicians to get in control of our regulatory agencies and to stop this madness. But as Newton taught us very early on, every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
Starting point is 01:08:37 There's some really negative bills that are coming our way. And a couple that we know a lot about, in fact, it's our specialty. I want to talk to you about that. This is a headline that should grab your attention. This is just the beginning of legislative season around the country. Maryland bill would let health care providers vaccinate children without parental consent. It goes on to say the bill introduced in the Maryland State Senate says a minor who is at least 14 years old has the same capacity as an adult consent to vaccination. He can't go to war. He can't drive a car. He can't drink a beer, but he can inject a toxic product that has got a 1 in 800 serious adverse event with it.
Starting point is 01:09:16 The bill further states, I made that up obviously. The bill further states minors under the age of 14, including a minor who has developed. developmentally disabled or unmancipated, has the capacity to consent to vaccination, if, in the opinion of the health care provider, okay, in their opinion, the minor is of sufficient intelligence to understand and appreciate the need for nature of and significant risks and consequences of the vaccination, and the minor is able to give informed consent. That is a Maryland bill. If you're in Maryland, you better keep your eyes on that. There's also they're not alone. I'm telling you we're going to see more of this. We fought this back in California.
Starting point is 01:09:55 They dropped it. I'm sure it will probably, they'll attempt to bring it back this year. This is out of Connecticut. A Connecticut bill would let children as young as 12 get vaccines without parental consent. This is how they're going to do it, right? We're waking up, but our kids do they know better? A bill introduced to the Connecticut state legislator on Tuesday would allow children ages 12 and older to receive vaccines without a parent's approval. The bill proposed by State Representative Kevin Ryan, Democrat, would amend Connecticut's general statute and allow a child 12 years or older to get a vaccine without the consent to their parent or guardian. If passed, look, this is the total attack on the family to begin with. We are talking if this is happening in your school to anybody. It's because the parents obviously have a clear decision to not vaccinate their child.
Starting point is 01:10:42 And by the way, the parents know the history of their child and whether or not they've had other reactions. to vaccines and want to be a part of that process. And here you have the machine in this authoritarian government that we're now living in deciding that they're going to make that choice with your child against your will. And much like the Washington, D.C. bill, which I'm going to talk about in the second, most of these bills say that the school will be forced to lie to the parents, the doctors will lie to the parents, the insurance companies will lie to the parents. They're all in the cabal against you. This is absolutely as sick as it gets.
Starting point is 01:11:20 When I said we know about this, we know because we won in Washington, D.C. I'm going to remind you right now, our ICN case, this was the minor consent for vaccination in Washington, D.C. We fought that, and we struck it down. It had passed. This was the case itself.
Starting point is 01:11:36 You can look it up. I want to make this point, because as these state, there is Judge Barr's D.C. from vaccinating children without parental consent. Washington Post. Folks, we cannot get complacent right now. And right now, I'm telling you, I need your help. We are already.
Starting point is 01:11:53 It cannot tell you how many lawsuits we've got going on, how many FOIA requests I have Aaron, Syria, and his team sending on a daily basis. But I need them preparing for these cases. I need them looking at Connecticut. How they're going to structure that law? Is it going to be different than Washington, D.C.? I need the team focused on Maryland. And anywhere else this is going to pop up.
Starting point is 01:12:12 All of this has got a cost to it. We are going to knock this dead as soon as they decide to pass something like this, but we need your help. And here's the issue. If we aren't funded enough for me to say to Aaron, get right on top of this. Our concern is always that some other, I'm sure, well-intentioned lawyer will jump in and decide to, you know, beat us to it. And then what happens if they fail? If they lose, they set a precedent. We have a winning precedent right now in the United States of America.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I can does. Nobody else I can as a winning precedent that says, and we were able to threaten California, we'll continue to threaten every state, but if they go through with it, we want to send in the people that know how to win this than won it before. I need your help. This is just a part of what the High Wire does. If you're brand new, you should go back and look at the shows we've talked about our legal efforts, but folks, they're coming at us and they're coming at us hard.
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Starting point is 01:14:10 And folks, I'm asking you, you know, what world do you want to live in? I get it. I know you were strapped. These are tough times. But do you want Pfizer funding all of the media that you get? You want, you know, Moderna and you want Exxon and pamphers to be deciding what you cannot see, say, or do? Because those are the people that are running this country. We are trying something different.
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Starting point is 01:14:54 I know you're going to help, and I look forward to you joining our team. This is the informed consent action network. You are part of our network. All right. I think as many of you have probably recognized, you know, I had a help. scare over a year ago and from that moment I've been trying to get things together but every once in a while I'll do a flashback and I'll see a side by side of like what I was looking like then and what I looked like now and in some ways it's
Starting point is 01:15:23 embarrassing it's also great because at least the better looking me is the one sitting here right now in front of you and not looking like some bloated deer on the side of a highway but all of that takes a little bit of work and I want to tell you recently just after the holiday I decided, or actually just right before the holidays, and coming in and getting through this, I was talking to some guys that kept running into out in the speaking circuit that I'm on, and they said, you know what, if you did our program, you could lose 30 pounds in five weeks. And I said, you're a kid to me, 30 pounds in five weeks.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I said to myself and them, I can do anything in five weeks. In fact, a couple of us were all at dinner feeling a little bit pudgy. All of us jumped in and guess what? It worked for every one of us. So just so you get a sense of the happy, healthy guys and what they do out there, I'll never push anything on you, you can decide. But if you've been asking, and many of you have, this is how I did it. Rob, Delis, good to see you.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Good see you. Thanks for us down. Well, are you ready? I think I'm ready. We're going to figure this out, break it all down, and create a great strategy. All right, let's do it. Okay, so this is a bioimpedance test. what it's going to do is going to pick up all the electrical charges of your body, you know, bone,
Starting point is 01:16:43 water, muscle, and fat and give us a breakdown what's making up your weight. Okay. So it just takes a few seconds. In fact, it's ready. If you want to go and step on there. Just like that. Just straight ahead, breathe through your nose, out for your mouth. Just relax your body. All right, we got what we need? All right, perfect. Nice. Cool. All right, cool. So what are we looking at here? All right. So there's good news, bad news okay the bad news is the numbers they don't look perfect so is what I told you I was thinking 205 came in at 206 kind of where I've been at I would say the last couple months I got really sick and everyone watched as I sort of
Starting point is 01:17:18 had issues with inflammation throughout my intestinal system I got that under control spent a year you know being really clean my diet I think I went from about 230 pounds under 195 but then over the last you know a couple months I haven't been as strict, you know, and so I've sort of felt like if I live the way I want to, I'm back at like 205 and sort of plateauing there. In a world today, the hardest thing is there's like all these different diets and you're bouncing around. I'm keto today, tomorrow I'm vegan, then I'm, you know, and none of it seems to work, right?
Starting point is 01:17:55 The metabolic death by a la carte, right? A little bit of this, a little bit of that. What's the next trend? So that's where we can help because it's really not about what you're eating per se. or how much you exercise. It's asking the question, how do I heal my metabolism? Okay? Rather than thinking what we've all traditionally been taught,
Starting point is 01:18:13 that it's about diet or exercise. So we have to look at your body qualitatively. How are the cells doing? How are they metabolizing what's coming in? Which is why the system is designed to help heal your metabolism. So let's look at the good news. The good news when we look at these numbers right here is your muscle mass is 148.2 pounds, which is great.
Starting point is 01:18:33 So the body fat percentage is 24.5%. Okay. So we want to drop that down. Okay, we want to get that somewhere between about 17 and 20%. Okay. Now, from a numbers perspective, as far as the weight goes, the body fat mass is 50.4 pounds. Every pound of body fat stores 3,500 calories. That means that you have 176,400 calories that are being stored and not burned.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Wow. Yeah. Crazy, right? that energy sitting on your body that you don't even have access to. So you're burning sugar and you're storing fat. That's why the body fat is high. So a healthy metabolism can go in and out of fat burning whatever it needs to and isn't relying on sugar, which is very inflammatory. So we're going to do a 180 with this and get you burning fat, get your fat adapted. You can burn more fat and more importantly burn the fat off your body versus continuing to store it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Next number we'll look at is going to be the visceral fat rating. Okay. Vistrar That's going to be the fat that we carry around our belly. Okay? It's also the fat that's on the inside of the body that's used to protect things like your heart, your lungs, your pancreas. Medical system grades it out on a point system. You're right at 11.6, so 12 is the cutoff. Really?
Starting point is 01:19:49 But it's kind of like standing on the edge of a cliff and looking over. That's what you're doing. Right. So I'm in the high end of normal, like, on the precipice. Where I'm feeling it. I mean, feeling all the fat, like right here. Like, no matter what I do, you know just I'm wearing a tire everywhere I go and that's really a liver disrupted metabolic type but the great news is once we get you fat adapted on
Starting point is 01:20:12 the program we'll see about a three to five point drop in visceral fat in the five weeks and then the next thing is metabolic age your metabolic age is 51 so that just means physiologically your body is metabolizing as a 51 year old man now you're 52 okay yeah here's the good news is by going through this in allowing your metabolism to function better, it can go way down. Let the journey begin. Oh man, I really appreciate it, guys. I'm really looking forward to this.
Starting point is 01:20:39 It's great. All right, I'm going to be honest with you. You know, I do a lot of speaking live at all sorts of health events, talking about the vaccine issues and the things that we've covered on this show. On one of the speaking engagements I was on, I ran into the happy healthy guys, Dr. Randall Johns and Rob Vasquez, and we're at dinner. And I was saying, you guys look fantastic. What is it you do exactly?
Starting point is 01:21:06 And they're like, well, we work on your metabolic health. And, you know, a lot of times that leads to weight loss. And, you know, in your case, Dell, we could probably knock 30 pounds off of you in about five weeks. Now, I've heard of a lot of claims, but I thought, you know, 30 pounds in five weeks. I'll give that a shot. I can do anything for five weeks. And so that's actually what I did. I want to be clear.
Starting point is 01:21:26 There are plenty of great workout and health treatments out there and weight loss programs. I'm not going to try and sell you on one. I just want to talk about one that I did and the guys that helped make that happen for me. So I'm honored and blessed to be joined now by the happy, healthy guys, Dr. Rob Baskes, Handel Johns. Looking good, brother. Oh, man, I'm feeling good. I really am feeling great.
Starting point is 01:21:49 But before we get into what that whole process was like, and there's been a lot of people asking me, like, what are you doing? Just let's talk about health because I think it's so important right now. It's why I wanted to have this conversation, which is, You know, during COVID, I was talking to doctors that were, you know, dealing with us in the hospitals, and they were saying, look, people that are overweight, diabetic, these are such major precursors. Those are the ones who are really having issues with. And I even talked to doctors and they're all saying, I'm losing weight myself.
Starting point is 01:22:19 They were so afraid of what they were seeing. And we've all had reasons to get healthy before. But tell me about, like, how you see health. Like, what is it in this sort of metabolic system that you're talking about? For us, health really is an inside job. It's really about being healthy, cellularly speaking. So really, it's about how our body is functioning on the inside and how our body is expressing health, right?
Starting point is 01:22:47 Health really is our bodies being at 100% state or maximizing ourselves chemically, physically, and emotionally. It's not merely just being the absence of disease or the absence of symptoms. It's really being healthy, holistically. speaking our whole entire body. Now I would say, I mean prior to, you know, going through this diet process, I really consider myself a pretty healthy eater. I mean, I don't, there's no American cheese in our house, there's no soda or things like that, but you really started me having look at oils and things. I mean, I get organic corn chips and organic potato chips, but as I started
Starting point is 01:23:26 looking at those things, there was, there was a lot that I was clearly taking because I was like, How am I? I mean, how did I get to a place where I'm so out of shape? And really, honestly, I had accepted that my days of doing pull-ups were over. I mean, and when I was younger, I was a gymnast, competed in track, soccer, all of this, at rock climbing. I mean, if I would try to imagine rock climbing, you know, two years ago when I was unhealthy, I would not have been able to hold onto a rock. I mean, the idea, and I had let that go, that I'm going to be able to hold up my own body weight.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Now, all of that's shifting. But is it just about how I look? You know, how do we know if we're healthy? Yeah, no, it's a great question. And it can be so frustrating, Dale, if you're that person, and you are really diligent with your nutrition, yet you just can't seem to move the needle. Or even worse, you're cutting your calories, you're trying to eat better, you're going to the gym hours and hours a day, yet you can't seem to crack the coat.
Starting point is 01:24:21 So why would one person eat whatever they want and be thin? And one person count every morsel and can't even lose any weight? It's something bigger. So we always say, stop asking how do I lose weight? Start asking, how do I fix my metabolism? Metabolism is the name of the game. If it's healthy, you burn thousands of calories. You can stay at a good weight.
Starting point is 01:24:43 If it's unhealthy, and I think that's really what happened with you, the calories weren't being burned. What happens when you eat food? Does it burn the calories or does it store the calories? And that's 100% dependent on the health of your metabolism. And so when I thought about that, I mean, And as I had sort of said, I think I was about 2.30 when I went to the hospital. Everyone, if you haven't watched the show, go back, it's very embarrassing, all the things that happened.
Starting point is 01:25:09 But intestinal inflammation leading to a major hemorrhoid issue. There it is. I've said it again. I even made headlines, by the way. You guys know that? There was like headlines on my hemorrhoids. That's how you know when you've made it, you know? You know you've made it when your hemorrhoids make headlines.
Starting point is 01:25:27 But really what I realized was I was inflamed through my whole body. And one of the things I found interesting in, you know, when you guys sort of focused me on the diet, which was very sort of specific. In my case, I know there's different body types, but for me, it was mostly just white fish twice a day, a vegetable and a fruit. It was pretty easy to do it. I have to say it wasn't super difficult. But what I'll tell you the most shocking thing was coffee. Coffee, I content, it's hard to not drinking. I know I probably shouldn't at all.
Starting point is 01:26:01 But, you know, when I drink coffee a lot of times I get acid reflux and acid indigestion and things like that, is okay, you had too much coffee. And I found that, you know, one of the things on this diet was like, you guys said, you can have some coffee. And I never got any indigestion at all. I was talking to some friends that were chefs. Like, well, it's because you probably don't have any inflammation anymore that's being exacerbated by the course. coffee, how many of us really are dealing less with weight and more about just inflammation? Yeah, no, that's a great point. Inflammation is at the heart of everything you don't want.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Think about all chronic illness has an inflammatory, metabolic component, from heart disease to cancer, to stroke, to diabetes, even to brain diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. So when you start looking at this, one of the part of the program really is to help heal the gut and get you fat adapted to reduce inflammation. Because when you're burning fat for fuel, you can really drop those inflammatory markers. So I think that was kind of a cool thing to see for you. It's like, hey, I'm dropping weight, I'm feeling better, I'm not getting this acid reflux. That's very common to see those things improve as you start improving metabolic health.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Now when we think about metabolics, I think about age, right? I had just assumed, and I told you guys when we started this, I was skinny. I couldn't gain weight through. I remember high school taking a weightlifting class. I was like, can I just, am I going to get more ripped than like the bony, skinny stuff I already am? And then I hit 40 and it was like my whole world change. And I felt like I got so used to eating like an athlete, which is I can eat whatever I want. And now suddenly I suppose, you know, I was sitting behind a computer.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Now I'm sitting a lot working on Dr. Phil show and then the doctor's. So maybe more of a sedimentary life. but how much is that that age moment? We always talk about that 40. I'm now 52. But does age, is there, is there a transfer that happens there? Well, I think a lot of people think that because we, it does get harder as we get older, right?
Starting point is 01:28:07 But when we also see other people, we know people who are older than us and thinner than us. Yeah. We also know people that are younger than us and heavier than us. So if it was an age thing, well then everybody, you know, older than us should be overweight and everybody younger than us should be thin. And that's really just not the case.
Starting point is 01:28:24 What really is happening, just as we were just talking about the inflammation, the longer that inflammation is inside the body, the more damage that that causes to the cells over time, it makes it harder for metabolism to happen, because what metabolism is, that's just taking whatever goes into our body, and then our body is transforming it
Starting point is 01:28:42 into a form that it can be used inside the body. And one of the byproducts of that is energy, for example, which is then called a calorie, which is why we talk about basal metabolic rate, it's all related inside there, so it's the efficiency as to how our body is transforming what's coming in to be able to be used in the body for all of the different functions,
Starting point is 01:29:02 that literally thousands of functions inside the body. So I think as we get older, the more damage that there's there, inside there, it just doesn't get better on its own. So sometimes we have to take a look, see what's going on inside there, and then be able to customize something that's specific for that person
Starting point is 01:29:18 so they can be able to overcome. become that and then their cells are healthier. What is the biggest, I mean, are there some sort of central things that you know when someone walks in, here's probably what's wrong with your diet when you don't know? What is the essential mistakes that we're all kind of making right now? Yeah, we're really leaving in a different generation now than our ancestors. What nourished us for thousands of years has changed dramatically, especially since the industrial revolution.
Starting point is 01:29:44 And we really believe that one of the worst things you could possibly do is, has been the integration of nut and seed oil into our diet. You think about that, that was never anything you could have consumed, you know, hundreds of years ago because you didn't have the machinery, the chemicals to extract, extract oils from seeds. You know, you could definitely churn butter, you know, churn the milk and make the butter, but you didn't have access to these industrialized machinery oils. So things like canola, corn, soy, safflower, sunflower.
Starting point is 01:30:17 These are seed oils that are omega-6. They're called linoleic acid dill, and they're very damaging to the metabolism, to the mitochondria, to even break your own fat cells. It causes real big problems. I think even for you, one of the reasons we kind of made some dietary changes even in that regard with the fats was because I think over years and years and years you can start to build this up. And seed oil will build up in your body over many, many years. It takes almost 400 to 500 days to even get rid of this stuff sometimes.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Really? Really, really dangerous. Listen, processed sugar is no good. processed grain and flour no good. I really believe that the introduction of these refined machinery oils, these seed oils, has really damaged our metabolic state. I was even, you know, yesterday going to grab
Starting point is 01:31:00 a few pistachios, and I just looked at the packs. I was like, let me just check, and it was like sunflower oil. There you go, like that just loaded with linoleic acid, the highest forms, yeah. Which is a huge part of the diet. I won't get into too many details. I know people that want to like get into the diet to do something like that we're gonna set up away from the contact you but really take away
Starting point is 01:31:21 all the oils took it all away I didn't cook with oils cooked like lemon juice and things like that actually learned some things about cooking that I've still held on to but let's just go ahead to my way in it was five weeks I think five weeks and three days was the sort of the whole process and so I remember standing in my house and let me just tell you um you know I was like wondering you know should I go a few more like because once you're there like you're really knocking it out. And I really kind of wanted to hit that 30 pound mark. We talked about about it. I was right about there. And I went and I play a racket sport called Padel. And that day I went and played, and I'll admit, like, you know, playing a racquet sport
Starting point is 01:32:03 while you're in the middle of a diet is probably not the best idea. And there's days I was kind of light, like I'm going to do it anyway. And by the way, you guys said don't work out. Like we don't want you working out, which I've found fascinating. But ultimately, I went and I found myself like I was jumping through the air, like to hit an overhead, like I was flying, and I was so dialed in. And I said, you know what? I don't care what I weigh in the morning. We've done it.
Starting point is 01:32:28 And we've done it. And this is what I discovered in the morning when I decided to step on a scale. So this is how it ended over at my house. Take a look at this. All right, well, it's the moment of truth. I've just finished the five weeks and the three days of the diet. So today is the day I find out my base weight. I have to say it really doesn't even matter what I weigh in it right now.
Starting point is 01:32:51 I feel better than I have felt in so long. I was even saying to my wife last night, I feel clear and clean and vibrant and energetic. So it's just been an incredible experience, but let's find out what my actual base weight is. Here we go. 179.2. Sweet. You know, I think originally I thought it would be really, really cool to be 185 again. I really thought like breaking and there was that moment
Starting point is 01:33:29 coming up to 190, it kind of like stole. It was like, oh man, I'm never gonna like break through that space and honestly coming in at really 180. And before we did that pre video right about like going on the diet. I went out and toured for another month and probably put on, I would say a good three or four more pounds before I finally got around to getting started. Because I was like, you know, I had to go, I was like,
Starting point is 01:33:54 I went to Joel Salatin's forum, which was amazing, but I'm doing steaks and eating, you know, because it was just amazing. So I think I started around 208, 209, and then to come out there at 180. But it is transformative. I mean, I honestly didn't think that I would be at that space again. And what it does to your life in that moment.
Starting point is 01:34:15 In fact, just yesterday, I had to have someone come in and re, you know, I'm having a lot of my vests and my suits and things, have you brought in the guy said to me he was out here you know fitted some of the suits before he's like your waist is two inches less than it was and my neck shrunk an inch yeah who knew you had fat your like I mean you don't really think of that you know yeah it's truly astounding so I would say right around 28 pounds right there where you said 30 pounds yeah is that kind of I mean you look to me is everyone that you're working with having those kind of results that you know stick to it We have a lot of evidence at this point, Dale, so we've really been able to see, wow, we know what we can and can't do.
Starting point is 01:34:58 If we have the right criteria in place, we've got the right numbers, the testing's been done. Now it's just putting in the work. So once again, kudos to you, man, because you really put the work in, which really with any program that you do, really it revolves around your commitment to following through and keeping integrity with yourself. But yeah, if we've got the right criteria and we can bring you, invite you into the program and test you and customize everything, and you follow it, absolutely. Those are the results we see typically with men who need to lose it. Now women are probably seeing maybe five to 10 pounds less,
Starting point is 01:35:30 but still 20, 25 pounds if they need to lose that as well. Men typically lose more weight, they have more muscle, a high basal metabolic rate. So ladies, that's not your fault. But it's really typical to see those results. And this is over a five week period. Now, listen, we can't legally say that, just so you know the FTC says,
Starting point is 01:35:48 you can't guarantee any more than three pounds in a week, So three times five is 15. That's our legal number, but we like to over deliver. So exactly what we do, those are typical results. Let me show everybody since you're probably wondering. I wasn't sure I wanted to do this because it's not, you know, you don't like to show yourself. But I did take some before and after, so just to give you a sense of what it looked like. This is, I mean, just take a look at that for a second.
Starting point is 01:36:12 No working out except for I was sneaking out to play some Padel a little bit here and there. But honestly, folks, and I wasn't sucking anything. and I just thought let's be real five weeks. I mean that is pretty pretty phenomenal. I it's really there's not much you can say about that. Yeah we just got to see and I think you know when we look at my face I think we have it before like just recently there was like recently just on the show look at the difference right there that inflammation you were so yeah yeah yeah wow yeah in fact what was funny about this is my executive producer like did you like it's like your nose is straighter I guess the fat in my nose wasn't hanging off one side of my nose as much.
Starting point is 01:36:54 I mean, it's really a trip. It's really a trip. Now, you know, we decided to sort of look at the metabolics and how those are chipped, not just my weight, you know, but how did all the, you know, sort of, where's my visceral fat? Where is my age? Now my metabolic age. So this is what that looked like.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Let's take a look. All right, guys, moment of truth now. I know I saw my own scale, which said, I got down to 179, but I really want to know what happened internally, right? And that's what this is all about. Ready for this? Let's do it. All right, here we go.
Starting point is 01:37:30 Drum roll, please, right? What can be achieved in five weeks? All right, let's take a look at the new numbers. Okay. All right. So do you remember what your body fat percentage was before? I think I wrote it up over here for myself. My body fat was 24.5%.
Starting point is 01:37:44 Look at that. Check it out. So now I'm at 18.7%. So you had said, I think you said, remember that's 17 to 20, so I'm right smack in the middle now. You dropped 6% body fat in five weeks. That's amazing. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:37:58 Yeah, great job. That's really awesome, guys. So cool. And speaking of fat, so let's take a look at the visceral fat. Remember when we talked about that before? That stuff like around my organs and things like that. Exactly. I was at 11.6.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Okay, right. Now you're 8.9. Okay, excellent. Yeah, so huge drop right here. Where you want to be. Nearly three points. Yep, that looks really good. Yep.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Right. So, let's take. Take a look at your metabolic age. Yeah. Do you remember what your metabolic age was? In my metabolic age, I had it at 51 years old, just one year shy of what I actually was. Shut this out.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Holy cow. That's the best number right there. I was. What did I tell you guys? I said I'm back to the way that I was when I was in my 30s. There you go, you did it. There you go. That's why you felt like that.
Starting point is 01:38:42 That is phenomenal. It had them in the obese category. Okay, so you're now in that healthy category with all these numbers coming back into form. So wow. body fat ranges in the healthy zone and that was crazy when I saw you know I had done I think you know through some of the issues I went through when I saw the word obese written and for me I mean I was a skinny kid I was like what happened
Starting point is 01:39:02 yeah nobody wants to hear that you know the last thing too we didn't talk about the body fat mass so your body fat mass yeah it was 50.4 pounds of fat on your body yeah and you look at this now your body fat mass is 35.8 so you literally dropped about 15 pounds you just pure body fat Your body. Yeah. So, man, that's, and you maintain the muscle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Improved your hydration. He dropped your metabolic age. Yeah. You lost the body fat. Yeah. Got that sex came back, baby. Nice job. I really feel great.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Congratulations. That's amazing. I can't thank you guys enough. Really, really awesome. Incredible. It's a few weeks. What I say? I'll train in five weeks.
Starting point is 01:39:39 It was absolutely worth it. Yeah, he did it, man. Congratulations. Great job. All right. So, you know, lastly, just because, you know, I wanted to just show, you know, you know, you know, I wanted to just show, you know, you know, you know, know what we had gone through working with me. And by the way, Jimmy, who travels with me my manager, he lost about 30 pounds. Patrick is looking amazing. I've been watching his jeans
Starting point is 01:40:01 fall off him. He's 46 pounds. Yeah, I mean, really, really amazing results with those around me. Fab Mancini, who introduced us, has some incredible results. And so those are the things that sort of work for you, right? Like, you look around and go, oh, my God, you know, look at how well they've done. So to finish it up, I wanted to see if you guys could just offer something up. I mean, look, if people want to get involved in a program, that's an investment. But is there something that people can do? And you said, yeah, let's just get your audience off to the right of start. So tell me about what we can do for them.
Starting point is 01:40:35 So here's what we have. Okay. So the first thing is, is they've got to have a mind, you've got to have a mind shift that I'm ready and I'm ready to do whatever it's going to take. So as long as somebody's ready to do whatever it's going to take, We're ready. We're ready to help you. So what we did is we designed a challenge specifically for your viewers. It's called the H2 Thin Challenge.
Starting point is 01:40:57 So they just go to 82 Thin Challenge.com. It's going to start February the 20th. Okay. So what that means is... So just a little over a week from now so that people can get signed up, get prepared, get in the mental state for it. You got to be committed. It took some commitment, I'll have to say.
Starting point is 01:41:13 And then what we'll do is over the course of four days, we're going to lay out a road map or a blueprint so that they know the things that they can be doing so that they can be able to start their weight loss journey as well, getting themselves healthy from the inside out. We always say we want to get people healthy so they lose weight versus what we've all been taught is I'm going to lose weight to get healthy. Let's get healthy. Let's get you healthy.
Starting point is 01:41:40 So over those four days we're going to be doing that, giving you information to be able to do that specifically just for your viewers, H2 Thin Challenge.com. can be able to register for that and we're gonna be there ready and waiting for them on February the 20th. Well look guys, I wanna thank you for coming up here taking time. Now I know that we sort of had a direct interaction, but what's beautiful about the work you're doing is that anyone can do it all around the world. It's fairly virtually integrated.
Starting point is 01:42:04 You know, the books show up. The diet was written in a book, it was very clear day to day, the different, you know, some of the minerals and things that you provide, all that seemed to work really well. But I want to thank you just for. being out there and making people healthy and being such a you know a good representation of what it means to be healthy you have honestly made a difference in my life it is truly spectacular in the sports that I'm playing in being there for my kids you know knowing that I have got a much better chance of at
Starting point is 01:42:37 longevity now and I'm going to continue to do that work so I really just want to thank you again I mean thank you your work so important what you guys do so we're happy to invest in you It's awesome to see the results. Man, thank you for your trust and a continued success. We're with you, brother. We're all in this journey together, right? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Thank you. Thank you. Very cool. My brother. All right, great. Well, look, I mean, the reason that we're having this conversation is on the high wire, as I've said, we're going to be moving into new spaces. I don't want to just be talking about the problems of the world.
Starting point is 01:43:09 I want to be talking about solutions. And as with everything, the solution starts with us. So no matter what diet you decide to be a part of or what gym you join, you know what I realize is I'm taking it slower than I have before I'm not getting radical I'm not overdoing the weights and blowing myself out I'm just saying you know what today I did better than I did yesterday and I think that that is you know sort of how we move forward we're going to talk more and more about this but if we really want to you know transform the world around us in all these conversations whether it's you know how much pharmaceutical products our friends and family are using versus us or the issues and problems in the world and we're talking about it all whether it's cryptocurrency or vaccines, in the end, we have got to start representing what health and beauty and life means. We can't just have people running from something. They have to be running to something. And they should be running to what we represent, to our family, our friends, and our kids. So I hope that we've inspired you or I've inspired you to say, you know what? I can get back
Starting point is 01:44:12 to that weight I had just coming out of college, which is where I'm at right now. So I look forward to seeing your results and email me your results as you sort of take on this challenge and move on with the rest of your lives. And so when you get all trim and fit, buy some high wire gear and show it off and you can show everybody else how you highwire. Roses are red, violets are blue. Does a person you love love the highwire too? The latest highwire and I can merch is here and there are perfect gifts for the holidays, birthdays, or that special someone. From our new classic glass or modern concrete I can candles to a high-end ballpoint pen with etched silver logo, these gifts are sure to warm the heart.
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Starting point is 01:45:41 to Anarchapoko, at Alcapulco, Mexico. Hopefully you already got your tickets and you're there. That's February 10th, I'm speaking. And this. Then a great opportunity, February 12th, the Conscious Life Expo in Los Angeles. First of all, this is an expo that is always sort of vacillated on how far they want to go into this topic, right? So I'm really psyched that they're giving me a 90-minute opportunity. I didn't realize that there was a price difference. I'm going to let you know right now, if you don't have the pass to go to the whole expo, you can just come and see my talk, but they're going to charge you $10 more at the door. there's only 150 seats, folks.
Starting point is 01:46:18 So this is going to be an opportunity to see me in a much smaller venue than most of you usually get to see me. But I'm really going to lay it out and put it together in a way I haven't done it before. So it would be a great opportunity for you to come and meet me. Let's say hi. But also, I know you have friends in L.A. Maybe, you know, you can get them to come along with you and check this out so that we can start waking up California to the reality of what this is. And really, I'm going to be talking about the awakening that has been a lot. happening because of this massive authoritarian, you know, sort of takeover of our country
Starting point is 01:46:53 during the COVID pandemic. But it's going to be great. I hope to see you there. All right. As we sort of, you know, ride this all out and we see the changes coming. One of the things that I said this very early on, I'm really tired of you all like talking about the they as though they're this super evil elite group that we've got no control over like there's devil incarnate, well, I will tell you that you can tell that they're human when they start getting grilled
Starting point is 01:47:21 by news anchors. Perhaps the same news anchors that were thinking they were heroes and putting them on thrones to begin with and now they're starting to tear them down. There was a great couple of great examples. This is one of them out of the UK. Remember Matt Hancock? We talked
Starting point is 01:47:38 about how the fact that this guy is a shield, has been a shell, pushed the imperial model, pushed all the draconian measures and was a total hypocrite and liar. He, in the middle of making sure no one could touch each other, Matt Hancock's secret affair with A. Gina Kala Dengalo is exposed after office snogs while COVID raged on. I love that word snogs.
Starting point is 01:48:01 You want to know what snogging looks like? This is what it looks like. This is, I guess, him at work or something like that, checking to see if anyone sees, totally unaware that he's got a surveillance camera that is the office or something. and he's snogging and obviously clearly breaking the law here, his own law that he had put out there and made sure that no one could come this close together. And certainly not in a workplace.
Starting point is 01:48:26 This is crazy. Okay, I think I've seen enough. I'm about to, I think I'm about to puke. All right, so somebody finally really went at him on this justice. He's trying to get his career back together. Remember he kind of resigned. Now he's trying to revamp up and say, hey, I'm your favorite chill.
Starting point is 01:48:43 What do you want me to do now? Next. Well, the news in England isn't having it. Take a look at this interview. This is fantastic. People find it remarkable that you got away with doing something that most other people weren't allowed to do. Well, it doesn't feel like I got away with it, Susanna. I mean, that's, you know, of course I wasn't, you know, the fact that it wasn't breaking the law because the legal rules weren't in place. That's why I wasn't fine. But there was a ban on gathering indoors of two people. I was about to say. So that's just the explanation for,
Starting point is 01:49:17 I didn't get away with anything. In fact, on the contrary, you know, I've paid a... Did you receive a fine? No, because what I did wasn't against the law. And you're fine for breaking the law. But I did break the guidelines, and I resigned, and I took accountability for my... Was there not a ban at the time on meeting indoors
Starting point is 01:49:39 for people outside of your family, unless it was reasonably necessary for work purposes? These have been confirmed to us by Adam Wagner, the barrister from Doughty Street Chambers, who, as we know, keeps the receipts on all the legal changes at the time. Yeah. Based on what we know, he says, this seems to me to have been an illegal gathering. No, I didn't break the law, and there were fines issued, as we all know. Why didn't you break the law, was it reasonably necessary for work purposes?
Starting point is 01:50:08 No, the guidance was in place at the time with the... No, you're pivoting, you are pivoting to social distancing. I'm sorry, I haven't... Not talking about social distancing guidelines. I'm talking about the law. They were the guidelines that I broke. It might want to be. And you definitely broke those,
Starting point is 01:50:25 because you were definitely not a metre away from China. I'm talking about the law. England was at stage two of COVID restrictions. I'm not sure that's the case. I am absolutely sure that's the case. Right. I don't have the dates in front of me. And...
Starting point is 01:50:40 You were health secretary at the time. You brought the regulations in. Of course, of course. And I don't have to meet front of me. If anybody should have known the law, it would have been you. Of course, absolutely. It happened on the 6th of May. We were still under stage two.
Starting point is 01:50:52 It was a breach of the law. No, it wasn't a breach of the law. It was a breach of the guidelines. And I've been through that. If the law says that no person may participate in a gathering, which consists two or more people and takes place indoors, the only exemption was work purposes where it was reasonably necessary. You must be arguing it was reasonable.
Starting point is 01:51:13 reasonably necessary. No, I'm obviously, you know, that's obviously not, I wouldn't make that argument. But the guidelines were in place on social distancing. And so was the law. They were the, no, the law on this point, I can't remember the exact dates, but it was lifted in April and I remember that actually the case. On the 14th of May that law was changed and we went to stage three. There were further stages after that point.
Starting point is 01:51:42 There were no stages between stage two and stage three? There was. That was in April. The change came into... Anyway, I've... Look, I've been through this endlessly, this point. And I've explained it... You've been through it endlessly, but you don't know what the law was at the time.
Starting point is 01:51:59 I know exactly. I do, and I'm explaining it to you. You said you don't, and you didn't have the dates in front of you. But when I gave you the dates, you say it didn't... It wasn't in existence at the time. No, that's right. The guidelines were in place. and I accept that I broke the guidelines, but I didn't break the law.
Starting point is 01:52:18 I absolutely love every uncomfortable second of that. I think that should be like Journalism of the Year Award right there. I love how she just grills him. And then he's like, obviously, I've been dealing with this a lot. Like, you've been dealing with a lot, but you still don't know what the dates are? Absolutely priceless moment. And it just, I mean, these are just, as I've said before, these are not elite geniuses.
Starting point is 01:52:40 These are just human morons. And speaking of one of the biggest morons out there, how about somebody that would like to, I don't know, have us all eating synthetic food and blocking the sun to make sure it's a little bit breezier on earth here. Of course, I'm talking about none other than Bill Gates, and it doesn't appear that he's gonna get a free ride
Starting point is 01:53:01 from the media either. This is a recent interview, take a look at this. One of the issues that stogged you is that of your relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Do you regret the real? relationship that you maintained with him against Melinda's advice and wishes? Oh, I've said that I'm, I mean, this is, you're going way back in time, but yeah, I will say for the, you know, over a hundred times, yeah, I shouldn't have had
Starting point is 01:53:24 dinners with him. Epstein had a way of sexually compromising people. Is that what Melinda was warning you about? No. I mean, it's, no, I had dinner with him. that's all. And that you regret the relationship, the acquaintance. That I had dinner with him. And the relationship between the foundation and Epstein, which there never was any relationship of any kind. I love it, man, you know, the castles are crumbling. These castles on sand are crashing down. I mean, just think about how outrageous these statements are. And no, he shouldn't be up there all alone. How about all the politicians that were
Starting point is 01:54:08 flying around with Epstein? Where are they? They should be being. and grilled too. And how about that list? How about the Just Lane Maxwell's list? Is everyone tired of the cover-up that's happening inside of our own government and our judicial system? I am and I am sure that there are others out there. But just think about what he's saying. Yeah, I hung with a guy a lot. A guy that we know is trafficking children as a way to sort of buy power in our country. And everyone has sort of admitted to that that talks about it. But he was just doing business. He was just a good chef or that he liked good restaurants, come on, Bill. You're digging yourself deeper. When we look at all
Starting point is 01:54:44 these things, folks, all I want to say is clearly we're winning, clearly we're moving in the right direction. We have a lot of work to do. Some of that's personal work now. I really do, you know, in order to really move the rest of the people that are now on the fence, I think it's not just about showing them what they should have been afraid of, but also showing them, you know, what good human beings are like. Remind them again, people that actually get to speak their mind, that we love to talk about the topics that we do and we're gregarious and we're fun when we do it. We're healthy. We need to start leading. And I know that I'm talking the right audience when I'm talking to you as being a part of that process. Let's lead by example
Starting point is 01:55:25 and not be following people like Bill Gates any longer. In fact, I think Bill Gates should probably be behind bars. I am looking forward to the future. It's great. winning. I look forward to the future battles and some will be hard, but I know that you are all standing with me and my team and our team, our legal team that is fighting in this country and now abroad. Thank you for you. Thank you for my team. And let's continue to bring the glory, the winning. I'll see you next week. He's bought all the land. He's out for revenge to hurt every man.
Starting point is 01:56:24 He'll print all the food and drug every kid. Pretend like he's good. Then hide what he did. Nobody's safe. No, until we have gates behind the bars. Control. He's changed his disguise. His chemical world will be your demise.
Starting point is 01:57:07 He's sick and he's cruel and acts like he's got. Speaks on the stage while zombies applaud. Nobody's safe. Nobody's safe. Till we have gates behind the bars behind the bars.

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