The Highwire with Del Bigtree - DEL DISPELS MISINFORMATION ABOUT MEASLES

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

Del does a deep dive into the science behind the measles virus, dispelling decades of misinformation from public health agencies, as well as what is actually driving the recent measles outbreaks in th...e U.S. See a shocking scientific equation comparing the number of individual deaths that would occur if the measles vaccine had never been introduced based on pre-vaccine stats to the number of deaths from MMR injury.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm about to dive into a whole heck of a lot of science. You have never seen on a new show in your life. We're alive here. I'm going to do my best to get through it. We're going to get in the weeds together. If you're brand new to this show, you're going to say, oh, my God. I mean, this is this boring? I don't know, is it?
Starting point is 00:00:16 When you watch the headlines and they're like, we're dying, everything's going wrong. Robert Kennedy Jr. is going to get us all killed. Measel's one of the most deadly viruses. Someone has died. I want to make it clear. It's never okay for anyone to die. And the fact that we are now having a death in Texas, it's something that we should be focused on. Why? Why does someone die? What is the death rate? How old is the child? Did they have other
Starting point is 00:00:40 comorbidities? If they did it, if there's a perfectly healthy child, which would be really pretty wild an anomaly, then how were they treated? What happened? There's a lot to unpack there. We're not getting any of that news, but our hearts go out to the family that have the death here in Texas. I do want to say, I believe that's being reported as the first death from measles in 20 years, whereas Robert Kennedy Jr. said it is in cycles all the time. This issue of measles is one that has been used against me and Robert Kennedy Jr. Anyone that wants to get into daring to ask questions about the vaccination program at all. You're just, you're not allowed to.
Starting point is 00:01:17 This is the Holy Grail, literally the Holy Grail, to go to your vaccinations. Well, we're going to do that today. We're going to talk about measles. We're going to talk about the vaccine. They said in that news piece, 97% effective. The measles vaccine is 97% effective at stopping transmission and disease. Really? Are they sure about that?
Starting point is 00:01:36 This is what doctors. The doctor said that. And the pundits even more, like, oh, my gosh, it's the most infectious disease. Well, I got into this during the measles outbreak back in Rockland County, New York. I mean, actually it was Washington Post, put up this headline. I went out because similarly at that time, this was June 5th of 2019, New York anti-19, anti-vaccine event attracts pro-vaccine protests amid measles outbreak. I went there because similar, this is a Mennonite outbreak.
Starting point is 00:02:04 It's happening in a Mennonite community. I don't really know what their religious beliefs are, but they're saying there's a large population that are not vaccinating. We know the Amish have a very large population that don't vaccinate. They also have the lowest rates of autism in the entire country go figure. I don't know if they're related. It sure would be interesting to do a study about that. But when we look at the Mennonite community, similarly,
Starting point is 00:02:26 the Hasidic Jewish community in Rockland County, I went out there because they weren't vaccinate. They had a religious belief that they didn't want to contaminate their bodies with vaccination. They believed that God had created them in his image and likeness, and that's their religious belief. It was an amazing experience, of course, the news was crazy, blaming me literally for the measles outbreak. When you saw those news cameras, one of the things is, you're the reason this measles outbreak is happening. I was like, my understanding is that most of the outbreak is happening in teenagers and older kids. I've only been at this like a couple of years. I don't see how I'm responsible, but okay, you know, I'll try to avoid having some delusion of grandeur about that.
Starting point is 00:03:06 But I want to get into this because it's super important. As Robert Kennedy Jr. has pointed out in this Texas outbreak, he's saying it's cyclical. We see headlines are really upset about him, sort of blaming him. RPK. Jews' response to the Texas, Meals, death sparks anger. He downbladed. How could he? Well, there's a lot of misinformation, and some of it comes right from public health agencies. Let me show you the public health agency. This is NHS, which is in England.
Starting point is 00:03:34 This is England's CDC. This is their own literature. I want to point something out to you. It says this about the danger. If your child contracts measles, they are at risk of serious complications, including deftness, pneumonia, and swelling of the brain. sadly, 10% of people become ill with measles die from it. 10%.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Really? The top medical agency of England, you're going to stand by that. I want you to think about that. I want to show you where I start in any investigation. I'm just, as I want to point out, not a doctor. I'm just a journalist. And there's certain things you have like little flags that pop up that are just like common sense. I start with common sense.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Then I start bringing in scientists and say, help me understand that. Can we look into some studies? Can we figure out what is? But let's just use common sense for a second. If the death rate of measles is actually 10%, meaning 10 out of 100 people that contracted, die, do you think anyone would ever joke about that? I mean, that's a really high death rate. 10 out of 100 kids, one in 10, out of every 10 kids, one of them dies from the measles.
Starting point is 00:04:46 That's no laughing matter. So you want to tell me why back in the 1960s, it was a laughing matter. It was a television show. Arguably, America's most famous family dealt with this, what the England is saying is a 1 in 10 death rate, and they handled it like this. Peter, going out from school. They sent me home. Measles. See, their measles are a strange case of red freckles.
Starting point is 00:05:17 You have got a temperature. They told me. A hundred and one point one. What's the record? Never mind. That's one record. You don't want to break. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:25 You don't get to hold the title very long. I think you better go upstairs and get into bed. I'll phone the doctor and be right out. Measles. Let's hope all the others don't start coming down with it. Oh, that would be terrible. Right. As the ward in the state prison once said, I sure would hate to see them all break out at once.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Oh, no. Are you sure it's the measles? Well, he certainly got all the symptoms. A slight temperature, a lot of dots, and a great big smile. A great big smile. No school for a few days. Measel. Golly, mothers are supposed to know everything. But do you have to keep proving it? You've got a temperature too. What do you mean, too?
Starting point is 00:06:07 Peter was sent home from school a little while ago. Oh, what was his temperature? 101.1.1. Oh, is that all? I'm 101.2. Oh, Greg, you on my railroad. I'll be a sport. You can ride on it free. Thanks a lot. It's... Your turn, Peter.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I need two more half. Six. Oh, missed it. Boy, this is the life, isn't it? Yeah. If you have to get sick, you sure can't beat the measles. That's right. No medicine.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Inside or out. Like shots I mean. Don't even mention shots. Yes. I mean, think about it. Like, somebody's got this wrong. I mean, we're just going with some reason here. Someone's got it wrong because the Brady bunch, there's eight kids, I think.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Is that right? And then two adults and a maid. That means one of those family members is going to die if it's a 10% death. rate, like that NHS is saying. I don't think you'd have a sitcom laughing about one in 10 of the family just died. They're all giggling and laughing and checking off the bark. You got the musal. Now you got the mumps. That's because it's not the reality. It's just simply not true. That's misinformation being spread by the health agency of England. The real stats, we can go back right there prior to that Brady Bunch episode. We can go to the vital statistics that were
Starting point is 00:07:25 reported. Here's an article in 1959. before there was ever a measles vaccine, the importance of measles as a health problem. And what it shows you on the left there is death per 100,000 cases. And when you look at it right there, the death ends up being one in 10,000 measles cases. So of the infected, out of 10,000, one person would die. Let's be clear about that. That's not one in 10, which is what the NHS is saying. that's not one in a hundred. It's not one in a thousand. It's one in 10,000. That's a long way off.
Starting point is 00:08:03 That's a big steaming pile of misinformation by a major government agency. The vital statistics of the United States of America goes on to say this. When they look at the rates, when we look at overall death rates in America from measles, look at this is 1960. This is again, before the vaccine comes, it's 0.2 out of one of one. 100,000, which means you have to get, in order to get to 1% or one person, it's one in 500,000 died in America in 1960 before this vaccine ever came along. So that means right now, if every American, if we never had a vaccine, out of 340,000, 100,000 Americans, our death rate every year from measles would be approximately 680 people.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Now, that's nothing to look the other way at. I mean, let me make that clear. Nobody wants 680 people to die. But I would say also we are much better, I hope, at treating things. We have so much better antivirals and antibacterial drugs and the knowledge of vitamins like vitamin A, which we're going to talk about some of this with Larry Pellessey. I think that that rate would be even lower today with the amount of technology advancement. You would hope.
Starting point is 00:09:23 But let's just go with that. because at the heart of this conversation is the risk-reward benefit ratio. Is it benefiting us to protect those 600 potential deaths that might be happening every year? Is that worth it? And what are the risks on the other side? We're going to get into some of those details and they're very, very important. Now, before I do, I want to make one thing perfectly clear. This show is not telling you what you should be doing as far as your medical choices.
Starting point is 00:09:52 We're our non-profits, the informed consent action network. All I'm going to do is inform you about all of the known science around this issue. You have to make a final decision. And let me be perfectly clear. Almost every decision we make in this world with our children, especially around health, has consequences. It is true. When you look at 600, that means if someone doesn't vaccinate, there is a potential that that child or further on in life could die. from measles. That's very real. The question is, are there those that die from the vaccine? And is that
Starting point is 00:10:29 just as real? Or are they dying from other issues that might be caused by the vaccine when we look at four times the rate of upper respiratory infection if you get the flu shot from other upper respiratory conditions? These are the things that no one at the CDC, no one at the FDA, no one at the NIH, and certainly no head of the HHS has ever wanted to look at until now. But before Robert Kennedy Jr. gets around to it, I'm going to give you a sneak peek at the science that no one has ever shown you. So let's look at this rate. Let me take you over to the board very quickly. As we pointed out, prior to the ever being a vaccine, the death rate was one in 500,000.
Starting point is 00:11:14 It came down. It used to be about 14, you know, per. 100,000 and then slowly but surely it came all the way down, not because of a vaccine. Vaccine didn't achieve this. All on its own dropped to one in 500,000 before there was ever a vaccine. Okay, that's the reality. This vaccine cannot take credit, tries to. It tries to say, look at what we did.
Starting point is 00:11:42 It never did. This was a trivial, it was called a trivial childhood illness prior to their ever being a vaccine. In fact, there was about half the scientists in the 1950s and 60s as they were moving towards the measles vaccine thought it was one of the world's worst ideas. In fact, real biologists and immunologists complained and said, look, this, as the news just said in our news montage, is one of the most infectious diseases on the planet. But that's not a problem because it doesn't really kill many people. And let me be perfectly clear. Every one of your grand for sure had the measles.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Every grandparent around the world. Everyone alive today is only alive because your grandparents survived the measles. All right? Seven something billion people are here survivors of families that went through the measles. That's what this represents. And what those scientists were saying is,
Starting point is 00:12:44 why are we going to mess with a benign illness that everyone, you know, that's not sickly or having other comorbidities can survive just fine, why would we pressure that virus with the vaccine? That could be dangerous, because if we don't eradicate it, if we don't eradicate measles from the planet, what we will be doing, especially if we have a leaky vaccine,
Starting point is 00:13:06 meaning if it doesn't perfectly stop transmission, we're going to incubate and help this virus evolve to a place where maybe it becomes more infectious or even worse becomes more deadly. Now we've taken a virus that was really infectious and made it deadly with a failed vaccine program. And let me be clear, from the very beginning in 1963 when the vaccine was introduced, the goal was to eradicate measles from the planet.
Starting point is 00:13:35 This was the moonshot of moonshots by everyone in science that wanted to do it. We are going to go against Mother Nature. They're excited about it. We're going to prove that man can beat nature. We're going to wipe out an entire virus so that it had never exist on this planet. Have they achieved it? No, they didn't achieve it. They didn't achieve it right away.
Starting point is 00:13:55 One shot wasn't working. Then they went to two shots and the more popped up around 1973 where we added measles and mumps and rebella altogether and one package deal. Everyone in school got one. They got two. Now they're talking about a third shot. Still have not eradicated it or we wouldn't be seeing an outbreak today. Now they'll scream.
Starting point is 00:14:14 It's because of the unvaccinated. We're going to get into that. But before we really talk about Texas and the outbreak that's going on right now, I think there's potentially things that happen. Once you get all the information, it all comes in, you learn something. Well, we had the Disneyland outbreak, which was what put me in the middle of this. My documentary Vax, I was making that documentary with Dr. Andrew Wakefield right as SB 277, the law was being introduced to take away your right to opt out of the vaccine program. What was the excuse? Because we've got to stop the spread of measles because of the Disneyland outbreak.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And all of those unvaccinated people in that outbreak causing it. This is what that looked like in the news. Measles infected at least 19 people who visited Disney theme parks in California. The Disneyland measles outbreak now at 59 cases has spread to four other states in Mexico. Many of those getting sick, according to health officials, weren't immunized. Some of the 51 people linked to the latest outbreak have not had the measles shot. In an effort to get the upper hand on the measles outbreak at Disneyland, California public health officials are now warning unvaccinated people and children too young for shots to avoid visiting the theme park for now. The highly contagious disease thought to have been eliminated 15 years ago is quickly spreading among people who are not fully immunized.
Starting point is 00:15:40 In the United States, the measles vaccination rate is over 90 percent and almost all. All outbreaks begin when an unvaccinated traveler gets infected abroad. Calvay says a Disney theme park with so many international visitors can be an easy place for measles to spread. The resurgence of this disease once believed to have been eliminated has doctors concerned. People don't get immunized as a result. That's a problem. Doctors say those who skip shots should be aware of the risk they're taking. Look how many times it said once to be believed is eliminated and unvaccinated traveled somewhere and brought it in. and spread it. Well, after all that hysteria, like we're hearing right now in Texas,
Starting point is 00:16:22 we actually got the final report from the California Department of Health. This is the 2014 California measles outbreak. I think we should look at this because we have to ask ourselves, is this what's going to happen with the data when we finally get it in coming from Texas? Here's what we learned about the case in Disneyland. Vaccination status of measles outbreak cases. This is what we found out of the 25 of the 82 cases had immunization status verified, meaning of them, 82 of the cases, we knew their immunization status. 31% of them were vaccinated. 12% had one dose, 16% had two doses, and 2% had 3 doses.
Starting point is 00:17:04 That means 31% of the cases that were in the group that knew what their status was, they had vaccine failure. The vaccine didn't work. Wait a minute, that's not 97% effective. I was told 97% effective. 31% failure. It gets worse, really, because just like they're saying with Texas, and then there's the group of unknown, the unknown said.
Starting point is 00:17:26 We don't know if they're vaccine. We can't figure it out. We don't know how to do any research. We don't know how to ask the person, where were you born? How old was you? What were your doctors? Does your mom around? Can we figure it out?
Starting point is 00:17:36 They can't figure it out. So that was 131 cases that they did not have the records. But of those 48 of them said they were adults and 20 of them self-reported as saying, I know that I got my MMR vaccines, but they didn't count that. You weren't allowed to just say it. And you have to imagine if it's adults, if you're an adult, 97% of this country has gotten the vaccine, you probably got it. So that 38% has to tag on to here. Now, maybe not all of them. Maybe it's not 60% vaccine failure. But let's say there's a pretty good chance we're looking at 50% of the cases happen to vaccinated individuals. But it gets even worse. Recommendations for measles
Starting point is 00:18:15 testing? Well, they tested the genotypes, which is what we haven't done in Texas yet. I know one of the stories that's out there is that the mass vaccination program that just happened in certain counties in Texas caused the outbreak. Maybe it did. I don't know. That's not what we're here to prove today. But is it possible? It certainly happened in Disneyland because 30% of the cases that happened, of all that hysteria, it was an unvaccinated person that left the country? Was it? Because 30% of the cases had vaccine strain. It says right here, 31 genotype A vaccine strain from recently vaccinated persons with febrile rash and illness.
Starting point is 00:18:55 They got it from the vaccine program. So 50% were vaccinated and it failed. 30% got the vaccine strain from the vaccine program. Where we left now? How good is this program? How effective is this vaccine? Those are the questions we should all be allowed. to ask without being censored. So I'm going to ask it until I'm censored. All right. Now, I want to get
Starting point is 00:19:24 into deeper into the data here. Now, as I've said, let's look at the Texas data that Jeffrey already showed you. We have, you know, roughly 124 cases. This time, 124 cases have been identified since late January. 18 of the patients have been hospitalized. Five of the cases are vaccinated. The rest are unvaccinated or their vaccination status is unknown. This is how it breaks down. zero to four years olds, you have 39 of the cases. Here's what's interesting, and you're going to see this in some of the data that we're about to show you. 62 of the cases happen in this age group of 5 to 17.
Starting point is 00:19:57 That's where the bulk of these are taking place, and then it goes on to show you a few more. You've got 18 cases in the 18-year-olds plus, and then there's pending, there's five cases that they're looking at. Now, what Robert Kennedy Jr. said is it cyclical. Every year we see cycles of measles. And by the way, I don't know what they're talking about eliminated. I mean, if we see cycles, you never eliminated this virus. You haven't achieved the goal, which is a little bit scary.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But this is what Texas looks like over the last several years. You look in 2012, you'll see that it cycled up. The blue is the measles cases, and then it cycles back down. Then you have about three years where you don't see very much at all. Then it cycles back up, 2018, 19. Then it goes back down in three years. And then it cycles back up. And we're having a particularly large outbreak here.
Starting point is 00:20:45 in 2025, but it's that same cycle. In fact, if you look at, like we've got, you know, some stats from Wales, I believe it is. Look at this. This is showing you exactly that's pre-vaccine. You see it going up and going down, just like you did in Texas. And I think it starts the peaks get a little bit lower as you vaccinate, but the cycles never go away. Nature's winning this battle, folks. It's winning it out. Doesn't matter what we do, these cycles are still there. Doesn't matter. The mainstream media is going to go bananas, but they're fighting the obvious reality. All right. Now, let's get in some more details. This is a very important study. Take a look at this. Measles vaccine virus, RNA, and children more than 100 days after vaccination. Now, this is to that point. Are they infectious once they get vaccinated?
Starting point is 00:21:31 This is what they found. Limited data are available on the detection of measles vaccine virus, RNA, and human subjects following vaccination. We don't look at this a lot. We probably should, but we don't. Available. Evidence suggests that measles vaccine virus can be identified up to 14 days after vaccination with detection beyond this rare. But we look deeper into it is what they're saying. We report detection and confirmation of measles vaccine virus RNA from the respiratory tract of 11 children between 100 and 800 days after most recent receipt of measles containing vaccines. So they're spreading this stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:06 This is how that study broke down. And the zero to 19 days, there was 106 people spreading it that long. 10 people spread it from 20 to 39 days. Five people, 40 to 59 days. Four people, 60 to 79 days. We're talking three, four months, but 80 to 100 days. Now we're getting to years, 11 people were still spreading it. So that's, you know, there it is.
Starting point is 00:22:32 They can shed it. They're carrying in their lungs. They're infectious. So the vaccine can cause infections. And that's important, right? That's important because at the heart of this whole conversation of why we've got to force you to take this vaccine is to protect that child as they said in the news, that infant that's been born that doesn't have protection or that immunosuppressed child that has cancer or leukemia or something that means that they can't vaccinate, we have to protect them. Well, how well are you protecting them if you have a giant vaccine program in their school and we know that for at least 14 days, everybody's shedding it.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And for up to 100 days, people are shedding it onto this poor child that couldn't get the vaccine. Why does nobody care about that? In fact, how do you have cocoon herd immunity around it when everyone in the school is shedding? Serious question. But as I said, we're not here to discuss whether or not the vaccine program in Texas caused this outbreak. I want to talk about something that's a much bigger problem, I think, and one that Robert Kennedy Jr. alluded to that this program is not as successful as you've been led to believe. Measles, the need for a paradigm shift.
Starting point is 00:23:39 This is a study in an article that came out in 2019. It says this. Essentially, there have been no trials evaluating the clinical efficacy of measles vaccine schedules in preventing measles disease or monitoring the long-term quality of the immune response. What? I mean, this is what we're talking about, folks. where there's a robust silence. Burla is like, we do tons of safety testing. We know everything about it. Well, in 2019, this group says we can't find any studies showing the long-term efficacy of a measles vaccine.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You've told us it lasts for life, but does it really? This is at the heart of it. Of course, I said Robert Kennedy Jr. is asking this question. It's pissing off the New York Post who writes this. RFK Jr. calls for New Age of Radical Transparency at HHS. He tells critics they can retire. All right. So how do we track the, you know, effectiveness of a vaccine? We've got to look at something called your tithers. Now, any one of you can do this, you can go get a blood test and you can have and check your tithers, which is the antibodies still in your bloodstream towards certain illnesses like measles if you're vaccinated or if you caught it naturally. Or maybe you never got vaccinated, but you caught it and maybe you didn't have symptoms. And the only way you're going to find out is if you go get your tiders checked. Well, this is a super interesting. study that I think we've all got to look at. This is protective titers of measles neutralizing antibody. This is what this study showed. The studies suggest that measles neutralizing tuitors, the neutralizing antibodies, that if they're above 1,000 millie international units per milliliter, they may prevent measles infection. All right, I want to be clear about this, because we don't bring the camera back because I want to look you in the eyes for a second.
Starting point is 00:25:27 This is what we learned during coronavirus vaccine. Everyone told you was 97% effective. It wasn't. It certainly wasn't 97% effective at stopping infection and transmission. We now all know if we have a brain, blood cells moving through our brain right now, that coronavirus doesn't stop infection. You still catch it, you still spread it, as well as everybody else. You just don't have the symptoms.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So what this is saying is that you have to have 1,000 millet, international units per milliliter of the antibodies, the titers, in order to be at that place where you don't spread it and you don't catch it. But if it drops down and it's just somewhere between 500 above 500 and 1,000, now what they believe, let's read the rest of this article here, at 500, it may prevent symptomatic infection, but not asymptomatic, meaning just like the coronavirus vaccine. It looks like if it drops down below 1,000, you're going to catch it. You're just going to know you have it because you're asymptomatic.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And then it goes on to say below that, who knows, maybe you could be asymptomatic. Maybe you'll show infection rates. Remember, 30% at least were vaccinated, so they got the rash. That's 30% are symptomatic. Now, let's look at this on a graph because I think it's important. Actually, let's read this article where it comes from. Measles virus, specific antibody levels in individuals in Argentina who received a one-dose vaccine. This is what they did in this study.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Despite active vaccination strategies, reemergence or resurgence of measles vaccine virus continues to occur. Imparing elimination programs. Again, we're not able to eradicate it the way we wanted. The occurrence of several measles outbreaks in highly immunized populations has focused attention on vaccine efficacy and the durability of vaccine-induced immunity. It is likely that many factors contribute to the presence of susceptible individuals among highly vaccinated populations. These include failure to zero-convert and decline of immunity with time after vaccination. What that means is some people just never get any antibodies. They can't zero-convert.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And then there's those that do right at first, but then their immunity declines just like the coronavirus that by 15 months, I think it was, weeks. Whatever it was, it gets worse. Other important factors that might influence the immune response compromise the age at the time of vaccination, the number of doses and the strain included in the vaccine. So it looked at all of these things. It was looking at a one dose regimen. And this, remember, 1,000, above 1,000, you are blocking the virus. Below 1,000, above 500, probably asymptomatic. Below that, now you're probably going to be symptomatic.
Starting point is 00:28:18 It's exactly what this study, totally different studies saw. Take a look at this. If you look at it right here, these are the vaccinated age groups that we see it. And you also see the level of antibody tiders once they checked these people. Above 1,000, you see that as you go across 1 to 2, 3 to 4, but there's that age group, sort of where we're seeing the larger outbreak in Texas, 10 to 12 right there. Look between blue and red, those are all asymptomatic right there. that we believe you are now catching the virus and it happens as you go along early on one to two years yeah you're doing great three to four that infection rate is starting to get into your body and you're not fighting it but you're not showing symptoms at five is starting to draw below the line a couple people are starting to get symptomatic six seven to eight more are getting symptomatic by 10 to 12 that below the blue line those are probably symptomatic cases those are the Disneyland cases we're seeing but how many are in that space 500 to 1,000 that's
Starting point is 00:29:19 still across any of these infections have never been checked. They're running around infected, infecting people, and they don't know it. So is it the unvaccinated that are causing a problem? Or is it that group that are having vaccine failure that you don't see? Very, very interesting. Let's go on. We're not just cherry picking one study here, folks. Estimated susceptibility to asymptomatic secondary immune response against measles in late convalescent and vaccinated persons. This is a 1998 study. In our study, secondary immune response susceptibility was not reduced. That means that you've lost the ability.
Starting point is 00:29:59 You've dropped below that range of about 1,000 into the space where you're asymptomatic. That susceptibility was not reduced by a second vaccination. Because remember, that previous study we just talked about was just one vaccination. Well, they added a second, and it didn't change that group. They were asymptomatic. although re-vaccination reduces susceptibility to measles. So what that means is it stopped the symptomatic version, but it didn't stop the asymptomatic version. Two shots didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:30:29 You're still catching it. You just don't know it. I want you to think about that. We don't, these are, we need so many more studies on this, but what if? And remember, these are, I'm going to hypothesize for a second. We have a rise in chronic illness. We've gone from 12% chronic illness in the 1980s to now 60% of us are chronically ill. Our bodies are attacking themselves.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Look at this. 1980s. We had 11 doses of vaccines. 12.8% was our chronic illness rate. Then by the 2017, we're up to 53 doses, 72 shots. And then we rose to 54% chronic illness. They're saying 60% is where we're at now. So is it possible? I'm just putting this out there.
Starting point is 00:31:12 This is what I want Robert Kennedy Jr. to ask, what if vaccines aren't actually creating protection? What if they're not actually blocking the virus, at least not for enough of us? What if all it's doing is blocking our symptoms and in fact maybe making it's susceptible to being infected all the time? What if you have measles and you don't know it? What if you have RSV and you don't know it? What if you have whooping cough and you don't know it? Because studies show that you're also not stopping infection with a whooping cough vaccine. How many diseases are they vaccinated carrying? They just don't know it. And is the symptom really the problem with a virus? If that's all you're getting rid of is the recognition,
Starting point is 00:31:51 is it the rash that kills you? I don't think so. It certainly doesn't seem okay to have multiple viruses alive in me with a body that can't fight them off because we know that natural infection, your body does fight it off. It never gets in. You're above that 1,000, your whole life, or at least most of your life. All right, let's move on. So Sri Lanka, this idea of eradication, The dream came true. This is what the headline looked like. Sri Lanka eliminates measles. Woohoo.
Starting point is 00:32:23 The vaccination coverage in the county has been consistently high. Over 95% with both the first and second dose of measles and rebella vaccine provided to children under the routine immunization program. This was 2019 when this article came out. Sri Lanka, the first nation to eradicate measles that doesn't exist. Only one problem. 2024 comes along. And this is what it says. UNICEF supports Ministry of Health to accelerate supplementary measles immunization activity in Sri Lanka.
Starting point is 00:32:54 First phase of the supplementary vaccination drive to kickstart on January 6th via over 1,600 clinics across nine districts. Why do we need to have this big vaccine program? Because just a few years later after declaring eradication together with WHO will support the Ministry of Health in implementing a supplementary measles immunization activity in Sri Lanka aimed at controlling the ongoing measles out. outbreak midst over 700 measles cases reported in the country since May 2023, 700 cases in a nation that was eradicated that had 95% vaccine efficacy. How's that happen? How are we ever going to eradicate this virus if when you do eradicated, it comes right
Starting point is 00:33:38 back amongst the vaccinated? All right, let's move on. The future of measles in highly immunized populations. This is an older study. They did a model. This is what they found. The simulation reveals that in the pre-vaccine era, when we had no vaccine, there's approximately 10.6% of the population was susceptible to measles because the other 90%
Starting point is 00:34:00 basically had lifelong immunity from having already caught it. So by the time you turned two or three years old, that would eventually be about 10% of an area. You would see measles. They would all catch it, not die. It was a Brady Bunch episode. and then suddenly we backed immunity, and then it would sweep and find the next group of 10% another year. That's how this worked.
Starting point is 00:34:20 With the institution of the measles immunization program, the proportion of susceptibles, though that can catch it, in the population fell to 3.1% from 1978 through 1981. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. The entire vaccine program to vaccinate everybody in the United States of America, all it did was reduce the amount of, disease and infection by 7%. We went from 10% down to 3%. I mean, is that something to write home about? Is that something to have crazy headlines like, oh my God, the unvaccinated
Starting point is 00:34:58 have gotten in the way of our 7% achievement here. It gets worse. It goes on. So after 1981, but then began to rise by approximately 0.1% per year to reach about 10.9% in the model by 2050, meaning we're back and worse than where we started. The susceptibles at this time were distributed evenly throughout all age groups. The model did not consider the potential effect of waning immunity. So this is if the thing is effective. If the vaccine is completely effective, they realize that you would still see a rise in the amount of people that are being infected until you get right back to where you started, now amongst the fully vaccinated. But remember, we used to have total immunity from catching the virus.
Starting point is 00:35:47 All right, there's more. I know I told you I'd go deep, but we're going to prove our point here. The Royal Society, implications of vaccination and waning immunity. Remember, that study said by 2050, you're going to be back to where you started. But this is saying, but it said we didn't look into waning. Let's look into waning, shall we?
Starting point is 00:36:04 Here we go. Is it 97% effective? Here we paratize such a model for measles and show how vaccination can have a range of unexpected consequences as it reduces the natural boosting of immunity as well as reducing the number of naive susceptibles. Okay, this is important. Let me just the boosting. Go back.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Let me, let me point out that line real quick. The natural boosting of immunity. It reduces that. Vaccine programs do. This is a problem with the chickenpox vaccine. I want to just very quickly divert the conversation. In England and other European countries, they don't mandate or recommend a check. chicken pox vaccine. Why? Because when you catch chicken pox as a child, you know, you're itchy for
Starting point is 00:36:47 about a week and then you're fine. But as you go on, you get to be an adult, you need a re-boost. And that re-boost happens from being around your children that are now catching the chicken pox or grandchildren that catching the chicken pox. Being around them did the same thing a booster shot does. Suddenly now you're fit for life. We recognize, oh, look, you kind of needed to get rebooted and that happened naturally. But what happened when we started vaccinating all the kids so that as an adult, those of us that caught the chicken pox, guess what's happening? We're seeing a giant shingles outbreak all over the world. Why? Because that's chicken pox. That's chicken pox when you don't get your natural immune boosting from being around kids with chicken pox. The vaccine program
Starting point is 00:37:31 is causing shingles or chicken pox in adults because it's removed. Let's take that line back because they're talking about all vaccinations here, especially measles. Let's go back here as it reduces the natural boosting of immunity as well as reducing the number of naive susceptibles. It goes on to say, in particular we show that moderate waning times between 40 to 80 years and high levels of vaccination, greater than 70%, we brag about 95%, can induce large-scale oscillations with substantial numbers of symptomatic cases being generated at the peak. Okay, we got trouble in China here. In addition, we predict that after a long disease-free period, like Sri Lanka had, the introduction of infection will lead to far larger epidemics than that predicted by standard models. These results have clear implications for the long-term success of any vaccination campaign
Starting point is 00:38:28 and highlight the need for a sound understanding of the immunological mechanisms of immunity and vaccinations. Stay with me, okay? So what do we prove? Right now, you're not rebooting. The program's getting in the way of that. We know that we have asymptomatic carriers because the vaccine is failing as you get older. It's really affecting kids between 12 or 10 to 15 years old. That's where we really start seeing these outbreaks.
Starting point is 00:38:51 So now let's look at the subclinical measles infection and vaccinated seropositive individuals in Arctic Greenland. This is perfect. This is an island. They got to study an island. If you were ever going to reach herd immunity or the elimination of the virus, it would be on and on. Island. No better place can't. Nothing else coming in. Oceans blocking the virus from coming from anywhere else. Look what they learned in Greenland. The antibody measurements led to the conclusion that the rise in measles antibodies observed in two to four years after measles vaccination was
Starting point is 00:39:22 caused by an infection with measles virus. So here's what happened. They looked at the antibody levels right after vaccination and then they checked it two to four years after vaccination. And what they saw is it had increased substantially, which meant that they were, that something happened to the body that made it go up. They believe it was an infection, that you must have caught the measles, which ramped up even more antibodies because you didn't have those antibodies
Starting point is 00:39:47 just from being vaccinated. So it goes on to say this. Measles can apparently also spread among seropositive persons, which eventually could lead to clinically manifest measles in seronegative persons. If this was not the case, it will be difficult to explain the rise in measles virus antibodies, which occurred in scores, however you say,
Starting point is 00:40:09 in about two-thirds of the seraposit vaccines, two to four years after the vaccination with live measles vaccine. Two-thirds, 63% of those vaccinated and with adequate titers had become infected. 63% failure. Vaccine failure rate. If the goal is to eradicate this virus from the planet, you can't do it. It's never going to happen. Now, there's those that will argue, well, look, at least it's stopping the infection. If you don't want that rash and you don't want that,
Starting point is 00:40:44 okay, it's a free country, do what you want. All I'm saying is you're still spreading it. You do not get to give a guilt trip to anyone not vaccinating, saying you're putting others at risk. You're all putting everybody at risk. Your vaccine doesn't stop transmission. It doesn't stop infection. It's stopping your symptoms for those that it's even doing. that in. So there we are. Now we're down to choice. Now we're down to the informed consent. I have a choice. I'm not doing anything to you. You have the same problem with the vaccinated around your immune suppressed child as you do being around me. Only one difference. A child that does catch the measles that didn't have the vaccine knows they have the measles. They have a rash. And odds are
Starting point is 00:41:29 they're going to stay home and not be around your immune suppressed child. because they know they're sick. So the only thing the vaccine doing, once again, is hiding your symptoms so that you're going and hanging around your grandparent that can't get vaccinated, the infant that can't get vaccinated, the cancer patient that can't get vaccinated. It's dangerous. All right, we've proved the point.
Starting point is 00:41:53 There's plenty of science and plenty more science that needs to be done. But what we're saying is there is a signal here, folks. There is a signal that Robert Kennedy Jr. is going to look into. It looks like this vaccine program sucks. It has failed at eradicating measles and maybe spreading it. And even worse, if it's as leaky at 63% as we see in Greenland, that means every person has been vaccinated, at least 63% of them, are incubators helping this virus figure out how to become more deadly,
Starting point is 00:42:24 which maybe is what just happened with this death in Texas. I don't know. Maybe there's a new deadly strain that would only have been caused, by the pressure of a vaccine that's not doing what we were told it does. So now let's move on to the next question. Is it possible that there's a benefit from there being, catching the measles or catching the mumps or catching chicken pox? Because remember, the death rate is 600-ish right now if we just have the same stats as we had back in the 1960s. Let's say 600 people are going to die this year had we never vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Is there any proof that there would be a benefit? Let's look at this. Association of measles and mumps with cardiovascular disease, the Japan Collaborative Cohort Study. Methods were 43,689 men and 60,147 women aged 40 to 79 years at baseline, completed a lifestyle questionnaire, including their history of measles and mumps, and were followed until 2019. Histories of infections were categorized as having no infection, measles only, months only, or both infections.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Hazard ratios for mentality from cardiovascular disease cross histories of infections were calculated. This is what they discovered. Men with measles had a multivariable HR, 95% confidence interval of 0.92. Now look at that. This is science. We're all learning how to do this together. If that was 1.0, that would be the baseline.
Starting point is 00:43:57 That would be where we're at. That's the usual rate of cardiovascular disease. So what you're seeing is about an 8% reduction in 92 being 100 being the full, 8% reduction of cardiovascular disease amongst those who had gotten measles. With those with mumps only had gotten the mumps themselves, they had a 48% reduction for total stroke. And what is that? 79% from hemorrhagic stroke.
Starting point is 00:44:27 reduction in hemorrhagic stroke and those with both infections. So remember, you're doing better with cardiovascular disease if you only have the measles. You're doing even better if you only had the mumps, not the vaccines, the disease themselves, but if you had both infections together, 20% reduction in cardiovascular disease across the board. And a 29% reduction in heart attacks, myocardial infarction, almost 30% reduction. and a 17% reduction in total overall stroke. This is what that looks like, folks. Let's just average it out.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Let's just say 20%. Some of it's 17% for stroke, 29% for reduction, CBD reduction, 20%. But how many people have cardiovascular disease and die every year in the United States of America? This is the 2024th debt. 941,652 cardiovascular deaths in the U.S. last year. Let's just make this easy on ourselves and round that up to one million. It's basically
Starting point is 00:45:30 a million people died last year. Let's take the average reduction at 20%. And that means if you had measles and mumps as a child and didn't get vaccinated, we would save 200,000 people per year. 200,000 deaths avoided by catching measles and mumps if we didn't vaccinate. Wait a man, hold on a second. I'm saving 600 people from dying of the measles, but by doing that, I'm allowing 200,000 more people to die of cardiovascular disease. This is science, folks. This is a problem. This is a real problem in the story we've been told, but it doesn't stop there.
Starting point is 00:46:17 How about cancer? Let's look at cancer. Acute infections is a means of cancer prevention, opposing effects to chronic infections. All right, this is what they looked at. They show all of these stats. I wish we could zoom in on that a little bit. I will do my best to read it. Overean cancer.
Starting point is 00:46:36 If you had chicken pox as a child, you have a 30% reduction in ovarian cancer for having had the chicken pox not being vaccinated. If you get vaccinated, 30% more of you are getting ovarian cancer. If you had measles, you have a 50% reduction in ovarian cancer. Mumps, a 35% reduction in ovarian cancer. And then, Rubella, 35% reduction in ovarian cancer. When you see all these articles and all these ads about ovarian cancer and you should be afraid and we got a drug to protect you, man, if you'd have just had chickenpox, measles, Mumps, 30%, 50% of you wouldn't even have this issue.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Multiple cancers, chicken pox, reduced multiple cancers by 34%. Measles alone, 39% reduction in multiple cancers. In mumps, 17%. Rebella, all of them together. What can you imagine? And these are all different years, different studies of different cohorts coming up with the same information. So let's break this down.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Let's just look at all cancers. Roughly every year, there's 18 million new cancers diagnosed. Can you imagine if you reduce that by 30% because you had your childhood illnesses? That means roughly 6 million people every year would not get cancer. Six million people per year are getting cancer because we vaccinated them as. children, at least as multiple study groups now show us. 200,000 saved every year if we don't vaccinate with measles and mumps from cardiovascular disease. Six million avoid cancer every year if we don't vaccinate for measles and mumps so that we could save 600 people that died from measles.
Starting point is 00:48:43 I'm not telling you to not vaccinate. I'm just telling you why I don't, and I don't vaccinate my kids. I'm sure there's going to be headlines about what I just said. I hope they'll take the time to read the science. And I hope this science is what starts happening, more of it. Look, these are just singular studies, some of them. But more studies need to be done. And anyone that screams and yells and says, you shouldn't do those studies.
Starting point is 00:49:18 You should never question this vaccine program. They very well may be getting many, many, hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people killed from their own ignorance.

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