The Highwire with Del Bigtree - DELIVERING JUSTICE DOWN UNDER

Episode Date: June 12, 2022

Australia’s Vaccination Risk Network (AVN) is trying to set a worldwide precedent in a lawsuit against their federal government, which seeks to hold Australian authorities accountable for vaccine injury and death; and demand the suspension of all covid-19 vaccine approvals.#AVN #MerylDorey #KatieAshbyKoppensBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

When we think about, you know, who is going to lead the charge, who is going to win this battle? We started out this show talking about the brilliant work Africa and India is doing, standing up against the WHO, shutting down the American amendments, the Biden amendments, you know, being flushed down the toilet, at least this time around, because some nations we just sometimes don't take seriously enough stood up in our fighting battles that will affect our lives. Well, when I think about that, one of the biggest issues we have right now is this. emergency. We still have an emergency in the United States of America for what is now a cold we're being told we need to live with. Well, if we have to live with it, can we end this emergency and get over this? You know why it's there. It's there because that's how they get the testing. That's how they get to keep masking us. That's how they get to, you know, keep funding, you know, the vaccine. And by the way, delivering vaccines that were only authorized by emergency use authorization,

haven't been fully approved yet. So all of this. And then building, you know, housing centers for the sick. All of that is around this emergency. that has to end. Well, right now, there's a case in Australia, and that is a part of what they are attempting to do. And believe me, it's not just Australia. Any nation wins here. It could affect the entire world. This is one of my favorite groups, Australian vaccination risks network in Australia. I am being joined now by Katie Ashby Coppins and Merrill Doree. So tell me about your lawsuit. It's an honor to get to speak with you again. We met way back in Bax.

I see that T-shirt takes me back in time. But what do you got going on in Australia? And where are we at in this case? Well, we're currently taking the federal government to court, the Secretary of the Department of Health. I might let Katie tell you a bit about this as well. But basically, we believe that the Secretary of the Department of Health has a responsibility to cancel or suspend the pretext.

provisional approvals for all of these jabs because they are causing an incredible amount of harm and death in Australia. We've had a greater than 12,000% increase in reports of adverse reactions following vaccinations since the introduction of these jabs and an over 1100% increase in reported deaths. And the government is sitting on its hands and doing nothing and we think that they need to stop doing that. So I might turn over to Katie now for a better explanation. Katie, when we look at the cases like this, you know, as I was just talking to Naomi Wolf, I mean, we can talk about the kids, we can talk about the adults, there's different issues all the way across the board. Is there one specific weakness that you're exploiting as the heart of this case,

whether it's children or adults? I mean, or are you just across the board just the totality of what's happening in Australia as the case may be? So in Australia we've got the attack on the children and that's our main focus. I'm actually also running the same or similar case in New Zealand. So the five to 11 year olds is our age group that we're going after. And the reason why is because this is not a group or certainly not an age group that should have been receiving or even had approval for this. product to be given to them. And so that is the crux of our initial part of our case.

And then secondly, in Australia, the second part of our cases for the secretary to go back and reconsider whether or not this product should still be available, given the significant harm that is being caused that the secretary is aware of. So I agree. I mean, the thing about children is we have such good data showing that there are, you know, zero risk, really, of death. And so when you look at the myocarditis, when you look at all the injuries to children by the vaccination, it is, as I've said here on this show and I've said publicly many, many times, really for the first time ever, at least in my investigations of vaccines and injury, we can say unequivocally that this vaccine

is more dangerous than coronavirus, especially we just reported today. The science is now out, you know, knowing that the cases of myocarditis from the COVID infection do not exist. There is no issue there. And so that comparison that the reason we're seeing high rates of myocarditis and pericarditis in the vaccine is because it's also a side effect of the virus, that is now proven to be another lie that's been put out there. So it's a real weakness in the case. Now, what was the journey of this case? Did this case originally get thrown out of court? I mean, is that understanding right? Are you in an appeals court? What's been the journey to get you to where you're at right now? Well, do you want that one? We are, no, I think it's probably better if you do it, Katie,

about standing. Thank you. Okay. No trouble. So we filed two applications, as I mentioned. We filed one for the five to 11 year olds, the judicial review, and then ask the secretary to go back and review the approval of this product. And that was to be different. heard over two separate hearings. And then quite out of the ordinary, the judge decided to have a hearing simply on standing. So we already had a date for our judicial review for our five to 11-year-olds.

That was the 20th of April. And the judge decided, no, she'd have an earlier hearing to consider whether or not the AVN and a foster parent had the ability or enough loss or a right to bring the, a case on standing. And the judge decided that they didn't. So a decision came out very, very late,

despite the judge acknowledging that this was an urgent case. And both the reason and the lateness of the decision meant that we lost our judicial review. And we essentially have another boulder in front of us that we have to clamber over. And that's something that we deal with at ICAN. We win a lot of cases, but one of the difficulties that you have is this issue of standing, something I never

really knew anything about before, you know, I became as litigious as I am with Aaron Siri. But being that you need the right person to say that they will be affected, if this law doesn't change or what you're trying to win, that it has to affect that person's life directly. That's sort of your plaintiff. And if you can't really approve that or the judge doesn't think that, then you go and you seek out a better plaintiff or another approach. towards the case. And so obviously all of that takes funding, but you're in this fight, you're continuing it. So where are we at now? What's the next court date that's expected?

We don't have one as of yet. Sorry, sorry, Katie. We don't have one as of yet. We're waiting for the judge in the case to actually make a decision on costs. So we have to basically look at whether we're going to be ordered to pay the government's costs for this previous hearing. And until we have that, we can't move forward. So we are desperately trying to raise the funds. We have been told by our senior council. We have an amazing legal team. Katie is part of it. We've been told by our senior council that we have an excellent prospect of winning on appeal. So if that happens, the cost will be returned, but we have to put them up in the first instance. And that is the issue, is trying to make sure that when we reach that point, we have the funding for this,

because we cannot allow this precedent to stand. The AVN has standing. There is precedent law showing that we do. And we have a co-defendant who also has standing. What our senior council said is if we don't have standing, nobody has standing. nobody has standing. So we really and truly need to fight this battle and not allow this precedent to stand because it means that nobody will ever be able to take a case against the government in a case like this. All right. So, you know, obviously we have a very dedicated audience here

if they want to donate and help with this case, which is really crucial. And I've said it, you know, I joked years ago that Australia is the deepest, darkest vax hole in the world. you guys are really feeling the brunt of that. I mean, we've watched the brutality from police officers in the streets, lockdown measures where you could barely leave your home, just you couldn't step but a few steps away from your home. So fighting on ground zero is so important. Where do people go if they want to support the work that you're doing?

We have a Givesend Go page set up. If they go to our website, that's it. They can go to avon.org.a.u. There's a link to that or they can just go to give send go.com forward slash avian judicial review fund. And any amount they can give would be so very much appreciated. And we have to give a shout out to give send go because they have survived a lot of attacks, not just because of this fundraiser, but their support of the Canadian truck drivers as well. It's not easy to find a place that will fundraise for an issue like this.

And they've done an amazing job. Well, you've done an amazing job. You stay in there, as we pointed out, it is hostile territory there in Australia. You're bringing it every single day. I'm honored to have the opportunity to speak with you. And to show people what it is behind the scenes, what it is to go through these cases, the ups and downs. Sometimes the win is an immediate. But also, there's power in the loss.

There's power in letting people see, you know, how egregious the court system is, how it's acting so outside of the norm when we compare it to all the precedents that has been set through the years in other arenas and other cases. This is truly an anomaly and a very, very strange space for lawyers to find themselves in. But we've been victorious here. We're having victories in California in D.C. here. And I want to see that happen in Australia too. So keep up the good work and keep us posted on how everything is going, okay? Thank you so much, Jell. If I can add one thing, if the AVN wins this battle, it means that the world has won this battle because this will be a precedent-setting decision for the entire world, a withdrawal of the provisional approvals for these vaccines and a total stopping of the vaccinating of the 5 to 11-year-olds, that will have ramifications worldwide.

So this isn't just an Australian case. This is a case for the world. I agree with you completely. I'm glad you're there and glad you're making it happen. And again, it's our honor to show the world, you know, how active you are and what possibility there is. These changes are coming from crazy places, Africa, India, why not Australia?

So keep up the good work and I look forward to speak with you soon. Thank you so much, Jill. Thank you. Take care.