The Highwire with Del Bigtree - DIY FLU VACCINES ARE COMING YOUR WAY!
Episode Date: October 24, 2024With the cold and flu season upon us, big pharma is pulling out all the stops with a first ever FDA approved at home flu “vaccine” in the form of a nasal spray. Find out why this same spray vaccin...e failed miserably in 2016.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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COVID's over, right? So a lot of people are saying, wow, that was crazy. That was pretty crazy
the last four years. Let's go back to our real life and just forget that whole thing happened.
But that's not what we do here at the high wire. We continue to look at what's going on here.
Because we're on this story way before COVID being hit. And we look at Ireland at this point.
Now, Ireland's become a pharmaceutical hub. Pfizer, Johnson and Johnson, and about 10 other
pharmaceutical companies have set up shop there. And so whenever that happens, we saw this in Italy, too,
before the pandemic, you see bills start to be, you know, mold over. And in Northern Ireland,
this was the headline coming out. Northern Ireland government consults on mandatory vaccines.
So they're looking at a bill right now to give mandatory vaccines during any type of health
emergency. Public is up in arms. But it's not just in Ireland far, far away from where we're
sitting right now. This is happening also in California. You're seeing this re-roll back to these
pandemic years. Washington Times, in fact, back to the future. California.
counties imposed seasonal mask mandate on health care workers.
They're saying they can keep those masks on up until next spring of 2025.
So just because of COVID and flu, that's the excuse.
There's the double COVID flu season.
We need to really be protected and prepared.
But one of the biggest stories that really grabbed my attention over this past week or two
was this, and this is out of stat news.
And everyone's celebrating this.
FDA approves first at-home flu vaccine in U.S.
a nasal spray. And I thought, at home flu vaccine, nasal spray. I think we've seen this before
and looking to the article, and sure enough, it's flu mist. And if you don't remember, this is also
flu mist from 2016. Take a listen. Right. A CDC expert panel says people should not use the
popular nasal flu vaccine during the upcoming flu season. The CDC's immunization advisory panel
says the data shows the flu mist nasal flu vaccine doesn't work. In children between the ages of two and
the nasal flu vaccine was only 3% effective.
They need an injectable vaccine this year.
That's their option.
So come this fall, parents will have two options.
Get their kids the flu shot or no vaccine at all.
I remember this.
So, you know, we went to the CDC as we did for, you know, for years going to the advisory committee on immunization practices meetings.
When they were looking to whether they were going to re-up the approval for the flu mist, after it had completely failed.
But they didn't want to lose it as a technology and I've never seen anything like it the whole conversation I remember
Ended up being well if like from the members you know they're all doctors like so if I approve it if we approve it is a way to prove it but not recommend it like some form of like we approve it but we don't think it actually works very well like that was literally the conversation like well actually no once you approve it it's on the recommended schedule and they just did it anyway I got on a microphone and said you
you are destroying all the credibility that you have as the CDC.
This is it.
You've talked about like a universal flu shot,
and you're going to put this crapper back on the market.
Here, here, take a look at this.
It was an outrageous moment.
Adele Bigtree.
I'm here for the informed consent action network.
I was previously a producer on the daytime talks
for the doctors for six years where I won an Emmy Award.
And I think what's being missed in this discussion is public perception.
It's a very difficult discussion you're having and watching.
it's very informative and no one would want to be having to make the choice you're making.
But what I want to point out is that removing flumist was a big story in this country.
And unlike other choices you make, the public is very aware that it was taken away.
So when you put it back, the media is going to be very interested in why.
And when you have to discuss why as the CDC, your response looks very flimsy to me that,
well, they've changed the H1N1, and though there's no proof of its effectiveness,
we're going to go ahead and recommend it.
We're talking about at a time where the question of influenza vaccines effectiveness, period,
is in massive question this country.
Everyone's hoping to see a better vaccine, a more effective vaccine,
maybe a universal vaccine.
And when we find out ASIP is just approving an old vaccine
that may still be ineffective,
maybe even worse than ineffective,
or what is currently being used,
I really question whether you're going to do serious damage
to the perception of ASIP and what you're doing here,
and the CDC and what it decides to approve, you know, approve or not approve.
The country is looking for a better vaccine, not one that may possibly be less effective than one we're using now.
Thank you very much.
Anyway, not that I, you know, think that a universal flu shot's a great idea or anything,
but you're just calling them out on you don't even, you know, you don't even stay within the parameters of your own logic.
You are destroying everyone's confidence to you, especially the people that are supposed to believe.
And so here it is, the flu mist is back, the world's least effective product that's ever been made.
And think about during COVID, the world woke up to how bad ASIP, the Furback Committee for the FDA,
they rubber stamp these vaccines. So think about such a high bar for something to get pulled off the market.
And this is, you know, just this is like a time capsule now of this rare event.
Take a look at these headlines. This is when it happened.
Fluis, no spray vaccine doesn't work this year. Experts say, you go in there and it's,
says this this 3% estimate of effectiveness means no protective benefit could be measured so
said the CDC it's not even clear why it hasn't worked so this we can't even measure it we don't
know why it doesn't work no clue but we're going to take it off the market we have mpr
that favorite outlet saying flumists have slipped from preferred to pass A I mean everyone was just
piling this thing but then time magazine 2018 you have this new shift and it's back on the market
and it's been there since.
Nasal flu vaccine is set to come back this year.
So the really big part of this story, though,
flumus is back on, back off, back on,
is the government created vaccine hesitancy during COVID.
And that's what it was.
That's what the science shows.
People do not want to run for those vaccines anymore.
So the vaccine makers, public health officials,
are looking for ways to get these flu vaccines into people.
And this is the, with flumis, this is the point,
a nasal spray you can you can order at home you go online here's here's the actual online for
astrozenica the actual website with with flumus home get your flu vaccine delivered so you just fill
out a form then they'll send it right to your house you can shoot up your nose or shoot up your
kid's nose and that's that's where we're at right now so they're trying to get these things into
people's hands in any way possible and what the flu vaccine the flumis vaccine is working on is
mucosal immunity so that's the immunity you have in your nasal tract down your down your throat
and all the way through.
And that is what it shoots into your nose and tries to affect that.
Because it has its own immune system in that track, as opposed to shooting in your arm
and have like systemic reactions throughout your whole body.
It reminds me of the fluoride conversation.
It's like, do you want to drink fluoride for the rest of your life for your teeth or put it
on your teeth?
Either way, it's kind of a neurotoxin, but that's a side story.
So we go into the studies in 2016 because they're shooting a live attenuated flu virus up your
nose, basically, and it's a weak in flu virus. So that's, you know, no problem, right? Well,
there's a study, 2016 reversion of cold adapted, live attenuated influenza vaccine into a
pathogenic virus. And it says by propagating the virus under well-controlled laboratory
conditions, we found that the flumus vaccine backbone could regain virulence to cause severe
disease in mice. So there are studies showing that this thing will regain. I mean, it reminds me
of the oral polio vaccine. You know, it's just going to say that, yeah.
Yeah, it's regaining virulence once it gets back into the, you know, circulation.
But you go to the Fumis' own vaccine insert.
This is the patient leaflet vaccine insert.
It gives all the studies and shedding is all over that insert.
It talks about shedding a lot because that's the thing this is known to do.
You put it up your nose and some of it comes out a little bit into the public.
And one of the tables here really encapsulates this from a study.
And you can see here in this table, it shows the age, the number of subjects, and it shows the
the number of subjects and the percentage of these subjects that are shedding.
And you can see for children all the way up to five to eight-year-old,
you're looking at 89% of them are shedding this, 69% are shedding,
50% of 5-8-year-olds are shedding.
Now, if you go across there, it says percentage shedding after day 11,
so it doesn't last very long, but after they get this, they will be shedding.
And it's important to note that this FDA approval for this flu mist at home
is for kids over two years old, because in the same thing,
studies, kids under two years old, there was increased hospitalizations after they had the actual
flu miss. So they're not touching that category at all. But we're talking about a new class of
vaccines that it looks like they're at least trying to shift to because I'm going to say because
of government sponsored and government created vaccine hesitancy during COVID, you have headlines
like this now. Combined COVID flu vaccines are coming. So they're trying to patch them all in one.
Moderna jabs clears major tests.
So like the MMR or the DTP or any of these bundle vaccines, they're not going to
start bundling flu, COVID, and all of these other vaccines, maybe even RSV into one shot
for the cold and flu season because people are not showing up for these anymore.
And the government's not paying subsidies to get people COVID vaccine jab for free anymore.
But one of the other ones, this is in Scientific America.
This was on the headlines here.
New nasal vaccines offer better protection from COVID.
and flu, no needle need it. They're also talking about RSV being a nasal, like flu-miss-type
vaccine and other vaccines for diseases. So there's also a shift. You know, we had the
M-R-N-A technology, but we have this other class of vaccines. They're going to see if they can do
nasal vaccines. So this is a whole separate class of these type of respiratory diseases that are all
looking towards nasal vaccines. And if you get this kind of like mail-order home delivery service,
You can get it on, you know, Amazon or DoorDash or whatever.
There's this new pipeline that's coming.
And you've got to wonder how that's going to affect, you know,
reporting of adverse events all the way down the line.
If your parents are giving illegal issues,
if the parents are giving it to the kid and the kid gets injured,
I mean, it seems like a nightmare.
But this is something people need to really understand this major paradigm shift
that's happening kind of with this Fumas vaccine.
I mean, it's crazy.
In some ways, we worry about the self-spreading vaccine,
but the way this thing sheds,
the fact that it can lead to getting back to virulence, which usually happens upon shedding,
which is what we've seen with the oral polio vaccine that's causing polio now around the world.
Water in New York City is now testing positive of polio because of these programs that are not working the way everyone expected them to work.
You know, and you just see how insane this whole thing's getting.
I'm imagining at some point, you know, Jeffrey, we could go into business.
We could just jump ship, you know, and just get, I think, a plug-in, like the plug-in air-fragile.
just a plug-in vaccine. So I just have flu mist, just spraying in my house. I just plug it in all day long.
And if I go into my bedroom, I got COVID, you know, plugged into the wall and, you know, RSV.
And just give me some smallpox, too, just I'm always made immune because it's just always around me.
It makes perfect sense. But you know what's ironic about this, Jeffrey?
All those doctors that push this vaccine and pushed the randesivir and pushed, you know, putting you in a coma, basically.
on oxygen machines during COVID.
What is really happened is not,
what it looks to me is not necessarily
that we've lost confidence in the vaccine.
They apparently believe we've just lost confidence in doctors.
And if we take doctors out of the equation
and just start shipping it right to you,
maybe we could just have a direct from Farmer to you pipeline
and get these pesky doctors out of the way.
Guess what, doctors?
You did this to yourself.
You did this by listening to these people.
You did this by becoming nothing more than a key
in this world. You are so useless at your job. You are Dr. Google going, what is pharma telling me I'm
supposed to give? Guess what? We don't need you anymore. You're useless to America. Farmers realize
that, and that's where this whole thing's going. So if you're a doctor and you want us to care
about you, why do you stand up for citizens against pharma and say, you know what? Maybe we should
change your diet. Maybe you should try some exercise. Maybe you shouldn't eat so much synthetic
food and definitely get off the Kellogg's and the Rainbow Crunch, would you? I mean,
That's being a doctor if you want to be taken seriously in the future.
And this is, like you just said, this is the logical end to doctors following orders,
not questioning anything.
They're, you know, over the past years, they were trying to allow dentists and podiatrists
and all their types of medical professionals to start giving vaccines.
They were trying to eliminate parental consent to get them out of the picture so doctors can give more vaccines.
None of that worked.
So this is, we're just going to deliver rights people.
Let's just forget about the licensed medical professionals.
Yeah.
They're done.
Yeah.
What are you there for?
doctors, bye-bye. Well done.
