The Highwire with Del Bigtree - DOCUMENTING THE DUTCH FARMER SAGA

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

James Patrick discusses his new documentary, Nitrogen 2000, which highlights the demonization of nitrogen emissions by the Dutch government in the name of environmentalism, and the colossal repercussions on farmers, the supply chain, and global food shortages.#Nitrogen2000 #DutchFarmers #NitrogenEmissionsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

And as this conversation, as they clearly want to shuffle it under the rug and act like we're through it, there's other issues on the horizon, other forced pandemics, if you will, or dangers that may or may not be naturally caused. How about food shortages? Are we going to be running out of food because we just simply have bad weather? Or is it the fact that our governments are denying fertilizer to the farmers so they can do the work exactly how they've done it for the last several centuries? This is a story we've covered all over the Netherlands in Sri Lanka. And now there's a great documentary coming out by a filmmaker, and he dove right into the middle of this. This is what that is all about. Come then.

Come then. Our country is based on agriculture. Why? We need to go my house? Why? My farm needs to close? Everyone has someone in their family who was once a farmer. The manure is in the Netherlands, which is ammonia, which is a form of nitrogen, which is bad for the environment, bad for nature.

They have declared that nitrogen is the major problem. Well, I am an expert in nitrogen and I dare to say it is not. It's a crock of shit. We are actually discussing waving goodbye to our farmers. Twenty years ago, you would not have dreamt that this would have happened. We had a lot of problems with nitrogen rule. because our farm is near to and in Nature 2000. These are hardworking people, they're paying taxes,

they've worked their land for sometimes 10, 15 generations. I think the political system, like we have it in the Netherlands now, has totally broken. They are really suffering. Six farmers have actually hanged themselves because of this new policy. Farmers have to reduce the use of nitrogen. Our government did say we need to reduce 95% of, 95% of nitrogen in this Nature 2000 area. Our intention is to explain why this is so important

for them and for nature, but not to change the goals of the policy. That's not the case. It's not going to happen. They have created a huge problem for themselves, and the farmers are now really angry. We're wasting billions and billions on a nightmare. The government has to do what the government has to do sometimes, which is painful. But there is also 25 billion euro for a small country as the Netherlands

to help farmers to get a better life, to help nature to restore. The facts they use are not connecting together. We have a food shortage, a water shortage, an energy shortage. It's catastrophe upon catastrophe. The farmers are targeted and why are the farmers targeted? Because they have land. They need to build houses, they need to build factories, they have to build highways. They're not even having houses.

They're not even hiding. I think the government is not working for the Dutch people. We're killing our own food supply. You get governments and politicians who know better how to farm than we know how to farm. The main issue here is fear. Once the people are frightened, you can do whatever you want with them. They're taking away the security. You can't be safe without being free.

I always say it's better to die fighting. fighting, tend to sit on your knees. The documentary is Nitrogen 2000, and I am joined by the director who's also famous for the recent movie Planet Lockdown. James Patrick joins me now. James, first of all, thank you for taking time. I know you're in the middle of traveling around the world working on these films, so appreciate you joining us today. Yeah, thank you for having me. So let's get into this issue because it's one we've covered, and I was talking to you, you know, briefly about it. You said, I'm actually interviewing. We're just not getting a deep understanding of what's

taking place here. From the cursory, from my perspective, you know, it appears that because of new environmental restrictions and a desire to move people into organic farming, which is something that I would normally think that I'm very supportive of, I like organic food, I want organic farming, I, you know, I still sort of consider myself an environmentalist, but I also know that there are ways that you do things where you sort of structure it, you teach people how to do things the new way. And it seems like, you know, all around the world, there's this, you're suddenly going to get no fertilizer, no nitrogen, you have to cut everything. And then beyond that, there's like purchasing their farms, taking them away and turning it into forestry. And I'm thinking, what's going to happen

to our food supply? Now, I don't know whether I'm right or wrong, but you're deeper into this. So what would you say are the essential issues as we look across the pond? If you're if you will, wondering if this is coming to America and other countries around the world? Yeah, what I really realized is that this has been a long time in the making. So in the EU countries, they've been regulating nitrogen for 20 years since the year 2000.

And Holland, for example, has a minister of nitrogen, which if you can believe that. Yeah, I mean, and the lady has no background on anything, kind of a joke, but. And then they're, so they're regulating. They're doing extreme new regulations against the levels of nitrogen on nature areas they established 32 years ago. And 18% of Europe is declared a nature 2000 area. This is the concern is that governments around the world will increasingly declare more and more areas off limits for people

and then use sort of fallacious environmental arguments to kick people off their land. and then sort of conflate in the public mind, you know, the thousand real environmental issues, because I think we're all care about the environment, with things that aren't really legitimate arguments. Like, I don't know how everyone feels about it, but I mean, declaring carbon is as a pollution, which is all life and earth is carbon,

or in this case, nitrogen, which is cow, cow pee and cow poo is nitrogen. So it's a basic fertilizer, it's plant food. So in this case, they're not actually trying to re-reforest areas. They don't want to do that. They want to hold it in this stagnant state of and using these. They're actually the substance of the exact argument. They say we want 10 of these little plants. We want to preserve them, but don't want bigger plants like nettles, but we want little ones like orchids. So they're actually like doing a gardening policy in Holland. The whole thing is so cuckoo. It's very cuckoo. It doesn't make any sense. Let me ask you this, because we can

see what, you know, we can cherry pick these stories. Is it as dire or as extreme as it sounds? Are there really farmers losing their farms? Are there really families losing, you know, centuries of tradition and generations of tradition? Is that really happening? Yeah, it's very radical. So I was actually going to Holland to shoot interviews for another film I'm doing.

And I thought, okay, let me grab two of the farmer leaders from the two major groups. And then when I got there, you know, every town outside of every major city and all the countryside, every third farm had a protest sign on it and there was upside down Dutch flags throughout the whole country. So it was like an extreme, it was like a big impact on me. I was like, I need to do more on this. So in five days, I got seven interviews with two members of parliament who were on either side of the issue, two of the farmer leaders, one of the really heavily affected farmer and political commentator and the top

government scientists, an expert on nitrogen who was writing reports on the issue, which was inconvenient for the government position. So yeah, it is very dire because what they did is in summer 2019, they declared, okay, we're going to regulate nitrogen so hard, they were going to push off half the cattle farmers off their land and make their business completely defun. And so they had a big protest December 2019, they kind of backed off and said, no, he didn't mean it. And now five months ago, they went back hard on it and basically are set by next summer looking to bankrupt half of the cattle farmers in the country. And these nature 2000 areas in Holland, because it's so developed, there's 162 throughout the country. So everyone's near a nature 2000 area. And then they're,

so cattle farmers own about 70% of Holland. So if you get rid of 50% of them, that means you're clearing off like 35% of the whole country. Wow. And then what seems really scammy about it is there's like half a dozen NGOs that are pushing the policy in the government. And then they're once the farmers are kicked off the land, oh, they got the, the government set up a $25 billion euro fund to buy out the land once the farm to get them off at reduced prices.

Because the government will come in and say, oh, you know, you can't do business. So the big agricultural bank, Robo Bank is saying, oh, your land's worth. worth less for recalling your loans and then they're going to kick the farmers out the land the the government funnel come in and buy the land and then these same NGOs will be the custodians of the land once they're kicked off and in many cases put cows back on it wow so it's like in what world does this make any sense and it's a great i mean looking at it that way it's an amazing scam because they don't have to put any money down and they get all the land assumed by the state and then they control the government and then they get to be the custodians move people to the cities restructure

the food system. There's also a big real estate kind of project in the background called the tri-state project. So I checked out the directors of the NGOs, like, who's behind this? And I found there was a lot of Chevron executives. There was big tech executives, like Google of Europe, Google of Holland was one of the directors. And this big Dutch banking family was also represented in that. So, I mean, that's a clue to who's behind it. When you, you know, obviously we've run into each other because you've did a lot of investigations during the pandemic. You know, your movie Planet lockdown, you know, when you did that work and now you're transitioning into this farming issue. Is there a connection between the two, or they just two totally separate issues?

No, I mean, it's, I think there's the same bad guys behind it, but it's this push to control, like Henry Kissinger once said, you know, he controls the food and can control the people. people who controls the energy, you can control whole continents, those who control the money, control the world. So I think the size of these operations is so large that one has to look for people of a certain level of wealth to be able to conduct, conduct operations like this. But this thing in Holland is a huge story. I mean, clearing out a third of the country and then and getting the state down the land and then you really control it through all these different entities and things. I mean, that's, that is not a little boys game. So, and then this, yeah, I guess my new, my new site is called big picture. Watch. So I guess the general theme is like seeing things

from a high level internationally. Yeah. So really big, big stories that affect us all. Let's talk about this as a second because we've got this up here. I mean, I love what you're doing. Essentially, it's, it's a bit like how we do things here, crowdfunded, you know, work. If there are, you know, of you want to help support James' films and getting them finished. And I love that you said if there's a topic you want me to look into, that that's something you're willing to do

with big picture, which is super cool. So folks, obviously James is doing brilliant work out there. He's getting out there supplying us all with information that is necessary because it's going to affect all of our lives, whether we live in Europe or we're going to be directly affected by the food shortage or if it's learning about what they're going to and are starting to attempt to do here

in the United States of America. I'll be talking later about Joel, Salatin the work he's doing in farming in America. But as we as we finish this up and I love that you're out there because I'm going to have more questions. I know you're investigating a lot of different stories that we find really important here on the high wire. But as you said, if they control the food supply, it seemed to me that the pandemic was about, you know, in many ways, controlling us. What are we willing to do? And some people will say, well, it was just an experiment to say, would we wear a mask for no reason? Will we arbitrarily walk six feet apart from each other?

even though there was no science behind that. How many non-scientific things could they get us to do? And, you know, in the end, I feel like we won. We don't have a vaccine passport on our phones. So they didn't get away with that initial tracking system that I think could lead to future tracking of carbon and how much carbon I'm using, how much gas I bought this year, how many steaks I'm eating and all of these things.

Now you control the food supply. So, you know, you control our health. You decide what it is not, you know, is it is not health. What is food? what is not food, am I going to be eating more impossible burgers and be forced to do that? And then, of course, banking we're seeing these shifts. And as you're saying, it's all the same players. So let me ask you this, because this is the big question I grapple with. Is this, do you consider those people that we're up against, those sort of moneyed interest, these NGOs,

the Bill Gates is of the worlds and the heads of Google and Apple and the rest of them, you know, whatever this group is, are they highly sophisticated? Are they all? working together and is this agenda that seems in some ways to be a part of the same puzzle, do you believe that it is a puzzle or do you think it's more random than that? Probably before COVID I'd say maybe more random, but now I think it's a bit more concerted. Just it just just the the commonality of talking points and the way these programs are rolled out in such a coordinated way, I would have to say it's more of a coordinated operation. with media and government, NGOs, medicine, communications industries.

Just like with COVID, it was just all at once, you know. Yeah. So I think that had waked up a lot, woke up a lot of people. What is going on here? What dystopian reality am I living in? Yeah. So, yeah, I did. So back to your other question on, does this affect us?

What is the significance of the nitrogen story? I would say it's really, you know, Canada is talking about, it has been started to more aggressively regulate nitrogen. All of EU regulates nitrogen, just not as heavy. Holland put it at 200 times Denmark, set the regulated limits 200 times lower than Denmark and 100 times lower than Germany. So I would say it's very possible it would spread throughout the rest of Europe. It's in Canada, potentially United States in some places. So Brazil is regulating, you know, methane. I mean, the same talking points have been worked on to get to where what's going on in Holland happened.

I mean, the same talking points have been worked on for over 30 years now. So I would say this has been a long time in the making, and this isn't a new issue, but now these institutions are growing teeth and attacking, you know? Yeah. Should we be worried about famine in our future? Do you think that this is a level that we could actually see a reduction in food supply that will affect our lifestyles around the world? Well, we, yeah, I mean, some experts have said that.

I'm a little more monitor. I don't think they're really going to be like there'll be famine, but that would be pretty hard to pull off. But, I mean, the burning of the food processing plants in the U.S. and the EU are worrisome. It definitely looks like there's some pressure being put on the food industry. And there's definitely pressure to push people off the countryside into cities. and then sort of reorient what we are eating, like this bizarre, relentless insect food propaganda you're saying in the US and EU.

Like, I mean, who ever thought of eating crickets? But I mean, somehow that's a diet now. I mean, so that's just like, to me, I think they're trying to reshift people's purchasing habits through what they can afford, you know? Maybe, because like this one minister I interviewed who's backing, who's the main guy driving the policy. He said, you know, oh, meat, cheese, dairy have to be more expensive. And I'm like, who the hell is this guy? What is he to say what the price thing should be? And so he's saying that we're going to discourage meat and drive up the price through regulation and kind of push

people on to different things. So I don't know, they're not going to hold a gun to you and say, don't buy me, but they're definitely going to push you onto the other thing. And then in the, in the horizon, really this sort of the prospect of a potentially social credit system that Like this is another issue I'm going to make a piece on next year is on the CVDCs really to if that that would be a way that your money could directly be controlled on what you can and can't purchase. So the Bank of England, Federal Reserve and Bank of International settlements have put out statements to that effect that where CBDCs are so great because then we can turn people off or determine what they're buying. And we're already sort of seeing the beginnings of that in your credit card statement. and it'll say what sort of items you're purchasing. Oh, you're doing restaurants, entertainment.

I'm happy that it's just so convenient they're showing me how I can use it in my taxes. I've got the little pie chart. But really, it's me giving it to the total tracking system of what I'm spending on so that they can figure out what's going on there. It's the beginning of, it's a beginning of labeling of your purchase. Thank you for making that point. This is where I keep learning things right in front of people on the show. Like, go ahead and get rid of that app.

Yeah. All right. Well, look, James, I want to thank you for the work that you're doing out there. I hope you'll come back as you do more investigations into banking and these issues and the shift in governance and how we're governed around the world. But right now, nitrogen 2000 isn't finished. Do you need help to get that done? Yeah, if people could please donate to the project, that'll definitely make a big difference. All right, here it is, folks.

And this will be in our link. If you are part of our newsletter, you'll receive all this. along with everything else we're talking about. But let's help James out as he can continue to do this great work. What I love is the level, the quality level, which you're doing things at. I run into your cameras are beautiful. Your technique is excellent.

And you have an amazing ability to ingratiate yourself with all sides of these conversations, which is truly a gift as a documentarian. As you can see, even in that trailer, you're really getting the people that believe in the environmental side of this to excitedly discuss how happy they are. to remove the lives of the farmers.

And then the farmers describing, you know, how they think their government is really against them from what we know as a farming nation. So it's really brilliant. And people can see your last film, Planet, lockdown. Definitely check that out. So James, I know that our audience is going to support you, and I just want to thank you for taking the time

and doing such great work out there to bring the truth to the world. Great. Thank you, too, for your work. It's highly valued. Excellent. Well, I'll see you out there. We look forward to have.

having you on again soon. Take care. Okay, thank you. Bye.