The Highwire with Del Bigtree - DR. ASEEM MALHOTRA: END CORRUPTION, RECLAIM MEDICINE

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

Cardiologist and heart disease expert, Dr. Aseem Malhotra, discusses the pushback he received since speaking out against the COVID vaccines, and his new fight to help take down the corrupt food system. Get the details on his upcoming wellness conference “Reclaiming Food & Medicine: Ending Corruption & Chronic Disease” in San Jose, CA.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

One of the great heart doctors from, you really a legacy and a family known for the great work they've done in medicine in the UK. Of course, I'm talking about Dr. Asim Malhotra. We've had them on our show before. Boy, has this guy been speaking truth to power. In case you forgot, this is what that has looked like. Please give a very warm welcome to Dr. Asim Mahatra. Welcome to the stage, Dr. Asim Mahalatra. It's Dr. Asimahatra.

Physician, cardiologist, medical researcher and author. Dr. Assene Malhotra, a global expert on health and disease. I was one of the first people to take the jab. I helped out in a vaccine center. I was on Good Morning Britain, helping tackle vaccine hesitancy. I did not conceive of the possibility that a vaccine could cause any real harm at all. It wasn't even anywhere in my brain. My father, who was a very prominent doctor in the UK, he suffered a very shocking, unexplained, sudden cardiac death in July of last year, 2021.

And he was very fit guy, healthy diet. I'd actually done some routine heart scans on him a few years earlier. But his post-mortem findings didn't make sense to me at all. He had two critical stenosis in his arteries. In other words, severe blockages in two of his arteries. And I couldn't explain it. How did you become this controversial COVID character? Well, it's interesting.

I think controversy with me probably started a much, many years ago. I broke into the mainstream saying, why are we serving junk food to my patients in hospitals? I then went into a deep dive to try and understand why we had an obesity epidemic. What was driving poor health for many, many people was biased and corrupted information that was coming from two big industries, big food and big farmer. Evidence-based medicine has been hijacked by powerful vested interests.

Drug company-sponsored research shouldn't be determining medical decision-making at all. No. And we've seen the history of what they've done over the years. And that's at the root of our healthcare crisis. Over-medicated society, not just with the vaccine, is considered to be one of the leading causes of death after heart disease and cancer globally because of side effects. I think all cardiovascular conditions have got worse because of the vaccine.

This vaccine is not safe and is not effective and it needs to be stopped and pulled now. As soon as your work threatens an index, threatens an industry or an ideological cabal, you will be attacked, sometimes unrelentingly and viciously. We need to stand up and speak the truth, because if we don't, not speaking the truth is going to cause us more harm in the long time. History will not be on their side, and the public will not forgive them for it.

Well, it's a day full of heroes. This is a really big one. It's my honor and pleasure right now to be joined by Dr. Assign Mahatra. Dr. Mahaltra, I mean, it just, you have really taken it on in many ways in the UK just such a powerful voice. First of all, you know, you were on this program, I think it was December, so almost a year ago. You were sort of just really entering into this journey and there's always pushback. There's so many doctors here in America, many of them have lost their licenses over these conversations. We just talked about a law that, you know, was going to try and strip doctors of their right to free speech. What kind of pushback have you dealt with?

Where are you at right now? Is your license, you know, are you having any difficulties with your license in the UK right now? Dale, thank you for having me on again. It's great to speak to you. And I just want to reiterate also. Thank you for all your work because this is a, you know, I see myself as a medium for a collective message, if you like, for humanity. and then you are and the high wire in yourself have been, you know, very prominent in this process.

So thank you for everything you're doing too. In terms of the backlash, it's interesting. You know, there was a, I didn't expect that collage you put together, but there was a point where I think I said to Joe Rogan, as soon as you, in fact, yourself, as soon as you threaten an industry or an ideological cabal, you will be attacked sometimes unrelentingly and viciously. And you have to grow a rhinoceroside.

And not long after we spoke, in Austin, I was called up by the BBC in January, early January 2020, in fact this year, sorry, early January this year. I was called by the BBC to discuss whether or not we should be giving more people, healthy people, statin drugs, cholesterol-lowering drugs, one of the most prescribed and nuclear drugs in the history of medicine, because over-concerns of excess deaths, which I know you've covered and is an issue globally, our chief medical officer, only if you weeks earlier had gone on TV and said that it may well be the reason why people have the excess deaths have gone up, which are predominantly driven by heart disease, because people have stopped

taking their statins and blood pressure pills. And the reality was that that was simply not true. So they asked me to speak about this. And of course, in that interview, I decided that I had to discuss the elephant in the room. And I mentioned the fact that there had been a concern about the COVID vaccine, and I'd done my own research on this. And there was more than enough evidence to call for its suspension. That video, that BBC news item went viral. I think it's currently close to 25 million views. In fact, people have said it's almost as many views for the BBC

for a particular segment as the Queen, the Queen of England's funeral. So clearly that was, but as soon as that happened, and I was very pleased to get that out there, I knew there'd be a backlash. And within 24 hours, the lead story on the Guardian newspaper's website was, you know, BBC criticized for, allowing cardiologists to make a false claim about the COVID jab. And that backlash obviously is something that I expected.

But of course, for me, Dell, as I discussed with you, I saw that as a marker of progress. You know, I often quote Mahatma Gandhi, who said, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. So I saw that as a marker of progress. But in amongst all of that, I mean, ever since I even campaigned quite heavily,

and was part of a group of people that were successful in overturning vaccine mandates for healthcare workers towards the end of 2021, early 2022, I received a notification from a prestigious medical organization that I was affiliated with that a number of anonymous complaints had come through from doctors saying that I was bringing that organization into disrepute by spreading misinformation on the COVID vaccine. So that was ongoing, that level of, I would say, harassment. But something since we spoke happened in the last few months, which is unprecedented in the history of British medicine. The General Medical Council are the organisation, if you like, the regulatory body that controlled doctors' license to practice. And despite a number of complaints to them from anonymous doctors predominantly, saying that I was spreading misinformation and therefore I should be investigated for my fitness to practice,

They stood their ground and they said, although they don't agree with my views, they didn't feel that I'd done anything to bring my fitness to practice into consideration. And therefore, they decided not to investigate me and they made it public. A group of anonymous doctors are now currently suing the General Medical Council, are trying to take them to the high court for not investigating Dr. Siam Hartrow myself. And that at the moment is in a pre-hearing stage with the judge. We don't know what's going to happen from that. But I think that's quite extraordinary and quite interesting that that's happened. Interesting in the sense that the General Medical Council felt that, you know, and I like to see, listen, Dell, I think one thing I've learned in life is that people are not black and white. You know, there are shades of gray.

I've heard mutterings from people close to the General Medical Council that there are people within there that are on my side and feel that, you know, a seamalhotra is raising the. legitimate concerns. He's probably the most prominent person or has been in the last decade speaking out against big pharma manipulations. And if we go after him, who else will we got? And the thing is, I also play with a straight bat. You know, it's a cricketing term. When I came out with my advocacy, I did it after very detailed research, after publishing a peer-reviewed journal. I talk about the fact that I think there are rational explanations to understand system failures that have driven this problem in the first place around the COVID vaccine. So I think that probably has helped to give me some protection, if you like.

But ultimately, as I said to you, Dell, you know, when I published my paper, even though I had warnings from colleagues and friends saying you're going to lose your medical license, you know, it wasn't enough to stop me saying what I needed to say. And for the primary purpose of protecting my patients and doing my duty, because if I didn't do that, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night. You know, it's amazing to me. In one way, I think, isn't that how all doctors are supposed to ask? I mean, the bar in so many ways has just been lowered where doctors are no longer held accountable for the, you know, just patient outcomes. Or when you look at this idea, I remember, you know, in California when I watched all they lined up all these pediatricians on the microphone to support the bill that would investigate any doctor that decided to write a medical exemption for someone that's, you got an autoimmune disease or something like that.

And I just saw all these people lined up. I was like, you're literally censoring yourself. You're asking for government agencies and now stand between doctors and patients, and you want to be supporting that. And in this case, to think doctors, even if you're wrong, let's just say you're wrong, but you're setting a precedence where you're demanding that a doctor be silenced for their opinion. How is it these people do not say that that's ultimately going to affect you?

This is going to ruin your ability to investigate. What is going to happen to the future of science and integrity and advancement? How do you advance if every time you step out of consensus thinking and try something new, your own medical professionals and peers are going to say you shouldn't be allowed to do that? Are we just signing off here? Is this the, this is it? We're locked in. Science is settled.

We're not moving forward. No new cancer treatments. No new anything because, God forbid, somebody steps out. and has a different opinion. I mean, it's really crazy to me. It's like they're killing themselves. Del, you're absolutely right, and you speak rationally, but unfortunately, we are living in a system

that is broken and is irrational. And you've alluded to this even earlier on in your program when you talk about bias studies. The system is broken and no amount of money itself will fix it. In fact, I would argue the opposites that when it comes to the United States, you spend 18% of your GDP higher than any other, country in the world for healthcare,

you have amongst wealthy nations the worst health outcomes. You know, even pre-pandemic, Dell, I mean, I came across a very startling figure recently, even pre-pandemic, the age-adjusted mortality rate in the United States compared to other, compared to average of other wealthy nations, pre-pandemic, resulted in, results in an excess of half a million deaths per year.

Wow. And that's, and you're spending $1.5 trillion dollars more than the average compared to other countries. So we can what I'm trying to do and what I've been advocating for is to try and help people understand how that's happened. And you know, alluding to your point around this so-called craziness, all of what's going on with the so-called suppression of free speech, suppression of doctors speaking out when it comes to highlighting concerns of patients and patient safety is a product of the fact that we have these very powerful entities. I of entities in this particular case big farmer that whose only purpose is to you know make

profit for shareholders and quite often i would i would argue maybe more often than not in that process actually behave in a way that can only be described as psychopathic and uh and what does that mean well it means you know callous unconcern for the feelings of others incapacity to experience guilt uh repeated lying deceitfulness and conning others for profit and if you look for example at just at the, you know, the Pfizer-M-R-N-A vaccine, which we've discussed in a lot of detail. You know, that's made, made Pfizer about $100 billion in profit. It's probably the most lucrative medical product in the history of medicine. And yet, when you look and break the data down, you're also talking about a product which has

extremely poor efficacy and comes with unprecedented harms. Side effects, serious side effects, you mentioned the VARS data recently. Yeah. It's extraordinary when you think about it, absolutely astounding. you know, and the death rate could be because of the vaccine, one estimate published in BMT infectious diseases, although that paper was retracted, not because of any error, but because it looks like the editor was put under pressure. One estimate from a survey suggested there may be as many as, you know, 300,000 Americans that have died purely because of the vaccines and a million

serious adverse events. I mean, these numbers are absolutely just extraordinary. So this is really There's certainly enough to warrant investigation. There's certainly enough to warrant, you know, a warning, a pause. Let's not rush any more, you know, new boosters out, certainly not on the backs of 10 mice. Maybe we should be a little bit more thorough moving forward. You have, you know, you're coming to the states. You're such a clear voice, and it's really awesome. You have an amazing event coming to California.

Just tell me a little bit about. that because I want to get into some of the things you're covering there too. Yeah sure so this is taking place on the 28th of October in San Jose Civic Center Northern California. I'm speaking alongside Dr. Van Denizhiva who's an environmentalist has been very prolific pointing out all of the shortcomings when it comes to what's going with the food industry and agriculture. Dr. Drew Pinsky, as many people knows a household name in the United States, is going to be moderating. And of course my friend who is also going to come and give his perspective and in many ways offer

political solutions because we need them. Robert Kennedy Jr. is also going to be speaking and we have some surprised guests as well which I think is going to really start all the audience in a good way but I don't want to give that away yet. And what the aim of that conference is called reclaiming food and medicine. Dell is multi-fold. But really what we want to do is get to the roots of the issue, why American healthcare system is failing. what's driving chronic disease, empower individuals both on a health perspective, but also, as I've said earlier,

the system is broken, and we can't sit back and just expect the authorities now to sort the problem out. I think there needs to be an increasing grassroots movement, and we wanna help individuals know what they can do to try and clean up this broken system and this mess that we're in this medical misinformation mess, this health misinformation mess. You know, we're fighting for the soul of medicine,

And to paraphrasing, Martin Luther King said in the 60s that, you know, he was fighting to reclaim the soul of America from war, racism, and poverty. I think those issues are still outstanding, very much so. But we really want to focus on how we can help people to, you know, lead the best possible lives they can mentally, socially and physically. So we're covering quite a lot in that conference. I want it to be certainly with everything I do. I always try and improve on what I've done before.

And we're hoping that this conference will be certainly the best up-to-date health conference in the United States this year, potentially the world, I would like to say. And we're doing this, which is not-for-profit. No one's making any money out of this. We've, you know, fortunate to have a generous philanthropist from Australia called Adrian McCrae, who has put the money down for the venue, which is a beautiful venue. San Jose Civic. I went to visit recently, and I saw some amazing photographs of people that had had.

had actually performed there before, including the Rolling Stones and the Who. And I thought, wow, this is going to be quite an interesting place to have this event. But it's a beautiful venue. And all ticket sales, of course, will make money back for Adrian, but anything excess is going to be given to charity. So this actually is an event that's giving back to society

in more ways than one. Here we are, folks, October 28th. It starts at noon San Jose Civic Center for Events, Tickets, Reclaim Food and Medicine is the Bitley. I just very quickly, one of the things that I really love about this, and it is so true, our mission statement here at the Informant Incident Action Network, our nonprofit, is dedicated to eradicating man-made disease. That's not just pharmaceutical products.

It's not just vaccines. It's also our food supply, which is something that I love that you're branching out. And in many ways, I think that the vaccine issue is the tip of the spear of issues that are out there, But it's the one that's the most vivid right now and that we really saw, for those of us that were awake enough to witness what happened, we saw the sausage being made right in front of our eyes. We watched the regulatory agencies become cheerleaders for a product. Instead of being the skeptical science body they should have been, we're just saying we're not going to rush this out until it proves to be effective and proves to be safe. You can count on that. Instead, before they were even into their trials, we're saying, we're going to be.

guarantee you we're going to rush this out to you, which scared me to death. But it also is our food. You know, when we talk about, I talk about the rise of autoimmune disease and issues in America, especially, we are the sickest nation, certainly in the first world of the first world nations, and really around the world, highest levels autoimmune disease, highest levels of neurological disorders, highest levels of drug and pharmaceutical use. So clearly, the pharmaceutical industries are not making us healthier and they happen to own all of our media and a good chunk of our government agencies. But what I loved, even in watching that sort of montage of your work, that what really brought you to sort of stepping outside of mainstream thinking was just food in hospitals. Why are we

feeding people such crap when we got them, we're trying to heal them? Just quickly, is there a difference between big food, big ag, big pharma? Many ways that are not. They're very similar. In fact, actually, Kelly Brownell, a professor from Yale of psychology, a lot of work in obesity and trying to understand what was driving it in the United States. Actually wrote a great paper which people can look up. For me, it was very empowering and it helped me with my advocacy and certainly highlighting the

harms of excess sugar in the UK and also influencing a soda tax over there. And it's called how big food played dirty, sorry, how big tobacco played dirty and millions died, how similar is big food. And Dale, you're absolutely right. If you look at the chronic disease pandemic across the world, but in the United States, for example, six out of ten Americans have at least one of chronic disease, whether it's heart disease, types of diabetes, cancer, cancer, high blood pressure, dementia, et cetera. I mean, that's a huge proportion of people who are suffering unnecessarily. Yeah. You've unfortunately, even pre-pandemic lost two years off where your life expectancy in the United States. from 2014. You've got more and more people living in unhealthy lifestyles. And again, that's a lot

of unnecessary suffering. So for me, trying to understand the root cause of that, when you look at food in the food system, you know, the Lancet Global of Disease reports, just to give people some perspective in terms of the hierarchy of what may be most important, poor diet now is responsible for more disease and death globally than physical inactivity smoking and alcohol combined. So if you're going to fix healthcare, at the forefront of that means fixing the food. And, you know, I started my campaigning well over 10 years ago on the issue of the fact that having an interest in food and how it was related to heart disease, I was trying to make sense of the fact that, you know, how did we allow our hospitals to become a branding opportunity for the junk food industry? 75% of the food purchased in the UK, I suspect, not dissimilar in the US, is ultra-processed junk food doubt. So how can we be as doctors, healthcare professionals advocating for improving people's health?

Yet we are selling sickness on the hospital grounds. And that has been the result of big foods amazing success of making their ultra-processed junk foods available to anyone, anywhere, at any time, including even bed-bound patients in hospitals, Dell, that have had heart attacks that can't leave the bed for more than 24 hours, so for at least 24 hours, where there are contracts with hospitals where they have to be taken to the bedside in trolleys, you know, sugary drinks, sodas, potato chips, candies. There are contracts that were created to make sure that happen. And then at the same time, we're trying to educate the public on healthy diets. So you can see there's a big conflict there.

Amazing. Dr. Seymahalch, I know you have a lot to do. You're going to be in the States. This is a really important conference and some really big, awesome voices. Dr. Drew Pinsky, also someone that's taken his television career, put it on the line. Of course, we all know Robert Kennedy Jr. that's been fighting for transparency and science in almost every way of life. And Dr. Van Danesheva, I mean, just a brilliant voice for the world's great lineup on October 28, 2023. I want to thank you for taking the time to join us today. especially for your clarity. It's so beautiful when not only do we see as a doctor and a scientist, someone that's, you know, willing to speak so openly, but is so absolutely incredible at it,

Dr. Sima Ultra. You're just, you're a courageous leader in this very important time. It's just an honor to know you. Likewise, Del. Thank you so much.