The Highwire with Del Bigtree - DR. PETER MCCULLOUGH: BATTLING THE COVID CABAL

Episode Date: November 24, 2022

Courageous Cardiologist, Dr. Peter McCullough, is battling the Covid Cabal on many fronts. First, the American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM) is trying to strip him of his board certifications. Meet the PR Firm that is helping. New Myocarditis data makes risk crystal clear. Then, evidence going back to 2012 raises alarming questions about the military’s involvement in Covid vaccine technology.#DrPeterMcCulloughMD #CovidCabal #ABIM #MedicalFreedom #RNATechBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

There are so many doctors that rose up. In fact, I remember at one of the rallies in Washington, D.C., Dr. Orso said, we are 17,000 doctors standing up for medical freedom, medical truth. Well, what happens if you start taking the license of those doctors away? They can't say that there's 17,000 doctors anymore. Now that there's just regular people stripped of their credentials for doing what? telling the truth. That's what laws are being passed in California and around this country. It's all part of what needs to stop. And there's a lot of doctors that are talking about how

dangerous this is, not only for them, but for you. The government has gotten things wrong repeatedly during the pandemic. And it's only because doctors and others who have called this out and said, look, evidence doesn't say this, that they've changed their course. If you practice in any way or speak in any way, it's contrary to this on a public venue on social media with your patients in private, you are at risk of losing your license. We can go back to many issues, 1% mortality. Closing schools is healthy for our children. Wearing masks helps prevent the dissemination. Originally when the vaccine was first introduced, Anthony Fauci and even President Biden

told us that it would prevent the infection of COVID-19. We've now a vaccine. have learned that it doesn't prevent infection or transmission. A physician with a gag order is not a physician you can trust. Patients want to know that if they ask their doctor a question, including the question about COVID, they'll get an honest opinion from the physician. It will be absolutely chilling on the practice of medicine. It will become almost impossible to practice medicine the way we are trained to, which is to use our objective reasoning, to share ideas with our patients, and to come up with the best possible recommendation for that particular patient, for that particular circumstance. The truth comes from people honestly engaging with the data.

Censorship kills that. Censorship kills science. I think censorship actually killed people during this pandemic. It's arguably one of the most dangerous times to be a good doctor, meaning a doctor that does their own investigation and shares with their patients what they're finding in their own research, exactly what we expect from our doctors. Now they are being silenced and censored and coming under threat. Well, amongst those doctors that have appeared on the high wire and expressed, you know,

their concerns with the vaccine, their discussions on COVID, the best of the brightest have been here, but among them. And at the perhaps the top of this sphere is Dr. Peter McCullough, one of the most published doctors and scientists in the world. I am so honored to be joined by him right now, Dr. McCullough. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming here. This climate now, under the circumstances that is just being discussed by all of these great doctors here in America where we have free speech.

We may be on alternate media trying to say, hey, folks, we have a problem here. You're about to lose the doctor-patient relationship. You're about to lose any focus from your doctor discussing issues with you and their own personal take on things. you know, am I overstating it that this may be one of the most dangerous times to be a doctor? I think we're at a dramatic inflection point in America. That montage was incredible. From practicing doctors like Dr. Barkie, a family physician, to Dr. J. Badachara, professor of medicine at Stanford.

Yeah. All telling America that we've had a deep, pervasive change in the tenor of medical discourse, scientific discourse. knows me. I testified in front of the Congressional Oversight Panel in 2007. It's on C-SPAN for hours. I've been a president of a major medical society. 650 peer-reviewed publications at the site of the National Library of Medicine. I have 60 on COVID-19. And from the very beginning, before the vaccines, I felt a sense of strain. I felt a sense of discomfort. And then, frankly, it evolved into gag orders, threats, loss of employment, lawsuits. That's kind of before the vaccines.

Now the vaccines come in. People want to know what in the world is going on. What's changed, and this is worldwide. Yeah. It's worldwide. What's changed in the world all at the same time, all working to suppress the free interchange of information around SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, and the vaccines.

What is so shocking about this moment is we are not, now, you know, we are not blind any longer. The argument can't be with the CDC, the NIH, and Health and Human Services that we just didn't know better. And I saw a meme that says, boy, we went from trust the science to we didn't know what we were talking about really quickly. But in this moment right now, doctors are under threat in California law just passed. If you were a doctor that spoke out against COVID, your license is going to be under review.

at the same moment, Tony Fauci is out saying, yeah, you know, the science changed on us. The vaccine didn't end up stopping transmission the way we had hoped. Wellensky saying the same thing. You got Deborah Birx admitting, I always knew that it wasn't going to stop transmission. Perhaps we overplayed our hand. We were getting these concessions from the CDC and Health and Human Services saying, yeah, we might have overstated it. And yet, doctors like yourself that didn't overstated, actually, I think were spot on. every day more and more of what you said is proven to be true, yet they are not relaxing

on this idea that CDC, good, yes, any doctor challenging them wrong, even though we know they're the ones that are wrong. It's so true. Now, California AB2098 doesn't go into law until January 1st. Dr. Barkey and Dr. Mark McDonald have launched a lawsuit to stop that. You saw the vignette from Aaron Carriotti, former professor of medicine and ethics psychiatry at UC Davis saying, listen, patients go to doctors for a medical opinion. Sometimes they go to other doctors for second opinions, but they never go to doctors under

gag orders to get a government narrative. The California Medical Board says that the statements need to be consensus-driven. Patients don't go to doctors for consensus-driven statements, and I can just tell you in COVID-19, it's so complex this illness of which I've dedicated the last three years of my life to. I have essentially done a fellowship in COVID-19. It's so complex. The virus has mutated to such a great degree.

We've had the introduction of all different types of biotechnologies, old medicines, new medicines, that for each patient, I completely grew at Dr. Carriotti. Each patient is unique based on their background conditions. Their diagnosis, their prognosis, and their management needs to be stylized cannot be dictated in a government narrative. And here's what's amazing about it. They speak about misinformation as though there's one piece of information

that is totally made up in a figment of somebody's imagination, and then there's the science. When what you have brought to this conversation is that we have to at least admit that there are two arguing schools of science right now. There is not a religious belief in and then science. There is the science coming from the CDC that is, you know, apparently funded in many ways, and we're going to get into what's really going on with the pharmaceutical industry, but there are universities. There are science studies being done on myocarditis, heart issues, blood clotting, thrombocytopinia, cancer. I mean, the list is incredible of, you know,

and then we can go in the masking and the lockdowns. I mean, study after study showing that there is real proof. The masks don't do anything. Lockdowns didn't do anything. The vaccines are dangerous in many different ways. Definitely specific populations. We could argue how many people will be injured, but you cannot say that there's no science on the other side.

And that would be the only way you could even maybe get away with saying you're going to censor this conversation because there's a bunch of crazy people that have no evidence and then there's us. It's just not the case. Let me tell you, I'm in my fourth decade of medical practice now. I'm the most published person in my field in the world in history prior to COVID studying heart and kidney disease. The word misinformation has never appeared in any paper that I have written. It's never appeared in any textbook I have studied. It's never come up on a board question. And let me tell you what, I researched this. Misinformation appeared in the English literature around 1,500.

It was extensively used during Nazi Germany and other propaganda campaigns. And in 2018, Washington Post said misinformation was word of the year because it was used in partisan politics. Now enter COVID-19, and misinformation now is the tool that government authorities, medical boards, other entities. that really have a stakeholder position in the vaccine agenda, they're using the word misinformation as a propaganda tool, meaning if they hold information, everybody else holds misinformation. And you're right, in the world of science and medical care, clinical care, there are only scientific data and observations which change over time,

and there's always two or more interpretive points of view. Doctors spend endless hours and weekends going to meetings. Why? To discuss data. We review data together and we always have an interpretive points of view, but it's exchanging those viewpoints that allows the science to progress. And what you saw in that vignette is, you know, very esteemed doctors saying, listen, we're afraid the field is actually not advancing because there is now a complete inhibition of scientific discourse. Absolutely. Let's get into some of that discourse. And I want to really get into your area of expertise. We've talked a lot about this on the high wire and we keep seeing more and

studies, but no one has looked closer at the heart issues, the myocarditis. To me, in many ways, there are so many people, and when you get distracted by all the different things that people are writing about this vaccine. You know, what's in it and, you know, what's it being used for? But you don't have to go any further than heart issues to me. To me, if this causes myocarditis and children, and we have talked about the CDC studies going back out of Israel, incredible rises in myocarditis in small test groups that the CDC knew about. So where is the science at now? You've been watching this.

Is there anything you want to correct as we get more and more understanding of this? Because you've been really strong. You've been, you know, reading us everything. Where are we at? I want to fill in on this because this is actually quite a story in medical history. If we go back to 1992, Ralph Barrick at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill and his team, arguably he's the most knowledgeable person in his team on coronaviruses, was studying beta coronaviruses in rabbits.

And he could find certain strains of coronavirus in rabbits and later on in monkeys where the virus itself clearly could damage the heart. Okay. Now, I have to give the animals a lot of it. It's not the same as a human getting a coronavirus cold. But the point is they were cardiotropic and cardiotoxic 1992. Okay. Okay.

Then COVID-19 hits, and there is a name. narrative that COVID respiratory illness could cause myocarditis. And it's interesting how this messaged out. It messaged out to such a degree that in the NCAA, the Big Ten League, that would be University of Michigan and others, I'm a Michigan graduate and graduate school, they hold a COVID-19 respiratory illness, myocarditis screening program. So they have 9,600 athletes in that year, and they had 30% of them get COVID. They offered screening, 1500 went forward for screening.

They were able to find probably about half a dozen cases where there was an elevation in troponin, but it wasn't concordant with cardiac MRI findings. They found about three dozen cardiac MRI findings, none of which were clear-cut myocarditis. They ultimately settled on an idea that it's half a dozen to a dozen possible myocarditis or subclinical myocarditis, but no hospitalizations or deaths. And out of how many again? 9,600 total in the league, 1,500. screened, and the paper appeared by Daniels and colleagues in JAMA. So because of that, the

league says, well, listen, it's just not a big risk here. We did our due diligence. They dropped the program. Okay, so they stopped checking from the home levels and... Right. Now, another paper appears by Joy and colleagues in the Journal of American College of Cardiology, a very good journal, where they prospectively take community patients with COVID, and they do every cardiac scan possible. They measure cardiac troponin. I should set this for the group. Cardiac troponin is a blood test. Okay.

That the tromponent is the most abundant protein in the heart. The tromponin is the little ball that sits between actin and myosin, and it actually allows the ratchet function to come up and the machinery of the heart to contract and relax. That's troponin. Okay. So draponin's like a ball. During the setting of ischemia or injury, it flies off,

it goes into the cytosol, and rapidly goes into the serum and blood, and that's actually measurable. We've relied on to- So it sort of gets cast off. Right. But it is, but it is the basis of the definition of myocardial infarction. We've relied on it now for two decades.

And when there's a characteristic rise and fall in cardiac troponin and another consistent feature like chest pain, EKG changes, or imaging changes, this is before COVID, we would diagnose a heart attack, a myocardial infarction. Now, myocarditis is not a traditional myocardial infarction because the blood vessels to the heart are open, but the heart's being directly. damaged. So troponin has been used with supportive information like EKG or imaging to diagnose myocarditis. And so Barrick knew this back with coronaviruses in 1992 going forward. And what's interesting too, because we bring up these names, Ralph Barak. This is the gain of

function researcher, or at least that we think is in the middle of this being funded by NIH. But part of it, he's really, he's got a thing for coronaviruses. It's his specialty. He's the one saying, you know, this could be a bio weapon somewhere in the people. future. But in this investigation of his, he's saying some of these coronaviruses have art issues in the animals I'm studying. And he proved it. And he proved it. So he proved it. So it but there was enough of a hint that there could be a cardiac problem with COVID. That Iran is on the Big Ten. Yeah, the athletes are doing it and they weren't the only ones. There were other, U.S. military had a screening program. So many because of COVID, it could cause

myocarditis. They don't see much there. Military drops their program. The Big Ten drops their program. And this paper by Joy and colleagues, prospective, they measure a troponite baseline. They measure it afterwards. They do every test at all in community COVID, not military, not athletes, people like you and me, they don't find any. Okay. They don't find any. So then we can sort of get from that that this, this form of coronavirus and the amount we are inhaling in an infection does not seem to be causing the heart issue that Barrick saw in his animal. Right. And one more piece of a data to Valley and colleagues from Israel studies hundreds of thousands of Israelis before the vaccines with COVID-19 and has a survival curve where they follow people over time.

The rate of myocarditis and those getting COVID is no different than the background rate of people who didn't get COVID because you can get it from a parvo virus, an adenovirus, it can be idiopathic. So the point is, conclusion, before the vaccines, COVID-19 respiratory illness for humans is a negligible risk for myocarditis. So we're there. Now the vaccines start. Yep. So the vaccines are administered and our inference is that the human body gets a far deeper and more systemic exposure to the spike protein. These are the spines on the ball of the virus. They cause myocarditis. There was a paper by Volio and colleagues from Italy showing for sure the spike protein damages the heart. Then it advanced Beaumire and colleagues. Did biopsies of young

people presenting myocarditis, finds the spike protein in the heart muscle. So, I mean, it's there at the conclusion. We have the delivery mechanism. If we're seeing an issue, we can see how it would be delivered. It's right there. It's right there in the heart, causing damage. The FDA weighs in in June of 2021 and says, yeah, it looks like the vaccines caused myocarditis. They reviewed what they had in the CDC had and said, okay, yeah, it causes myocarditis. Then the whole thing starts to explode. So what we see over the next year is, Choi, I believe, was, No, Verma was the first Washington University in St. Louis. They report a fatal case. Someone gets myocarditis and they die.

Then Choi in Korea, young man, fatal case. Gill, this was the most dramatic. And these were all after vaccination. These are after vaccination. COVID not implicated in these. Then Gill reports, this is that tragic, 16-17-year-old boys found dead at home by their parents on days. three and four after the second shot of Pfizer. And the parents, you know, do the right thing. They get an autopsy. The coroner looks at this. He calls in pathologists from Michigan and from

New Jersey, Minnesota. They look at all the data. They agree the Pfizer vaccine is the proximate cause of death in these boys. But important because there was no premonitory symptoms, no chance for CPR. The boys didn't alert their parents that anything was wrong. So the Gill paper's important. And then we have a paper that comes in from Patone and colleagues, UK, where now they have 100 fatal cases, 100, not autopsy proven, but the number one thing they put in the, and the best certificate there was vaccine-induced myocarditis, 100 cases in circulation. Our best cardiology journal, our best.

Wow. Half of the cases are with Pfizer-Maderna, but half are with AstraZeneca, which they use of it. So it can happen with adenoviral. the spike protein mechanism. So for people that may be watched for the first time MRI technology in the Pfizer and the virus, adding a viral vaccine

vector in AstraZeneca, meaning they're using a monkey virus that's not supposed to affect human beings sort of as a delivery system or a DNA code that goes to the cell. Right. And then finally, this just popped Kim and colleagues from Korea. Koreans are doing a great job, by the way, on this topic. The first Novavax induced myocarditis. Novavax, recall, is no

genetics here. That's just five micrograms of the purified woo hand wild type spike protein. And in fact, a young person gets myocarditis. Another teaching point in these cases for the doctors, nurses listening, the treatment here is cortical steroids, actually giving steroids, giving chalchicine. The myocarditis is almost always the outer part of the heart muscle and involving the lining around the heart, the paracardium. So the term myoparicarditis is probably a better term to use. A better term to use. And so, So it resolves in that case with corticosteroids and the use of colchicine anti-inflammatory, which is our standard for paracarditis, non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs like naproxin

or ibuprofen for pain control. If they develop signs and symptoms of heart failure, which some do, we actually have to use drugs called rena and antietensin system inhibitors and beta blockers. There was a vignette that Joe Rogan reviewed with me when I went on his show of a young college student at Northwestern University, her first name was Simone, where she gets Moderna, a few months later, myocarditis, and she goes all the way to heart transplant at Northwestern. She dies afterwards of a complication. That was a clear-cut case. And all that is in the backdrop. And so when the FISA-Moderna go for a full FDA approval, they get from the FDA a biological

licensing agreement letter, a BLA letter, which is not a full approval. It says you could be approved if you commit to doing these things. And in both letters it says you must study myocarditis with your vaccines. And you must do what's called prospective cohort studies, which is measure everything at baseline, then give the vaccine, and then measure everything afterwards. Don't wait for it to develop and then try to figure it out later on. Do it prospective cohort study and nothing happens. So the companies don't do anything. Meaning they didn't do the study? They didn't do this. Well, they didn't do the studies. There was no announcement that they were commissioning. Typically, this would go to Duke or the Brigham or Mayo Clinic and they would just do a really high quality

prospective course study right because everyone's taking the vaccines all the young people are encouraged to take the vaccines so what happens so Mansugian and colleagues from Thailand do the first prospective cohort study and Musukean has a total of 301 children age 13 to 18 yeah and they get all the baseline troponant EKG and echo at baseline this is the ultrasound of the heart yeah then they get the second dose of Pfizer, then they get everything repeated. And here's the bombshell. Do it all again. They look in them. Do it all again. They come up with a rate of myocarditis of 2.3%. Previous, the FDA had estimated 62 cases per million. There were data from Tracy Hogue, UC Davis,

said 250 per million. And then Kaiser Permanente had a estimate of 537 per million. This blows that out of water. This is 23,500 cases per million, according to Mansugian. And of those, seven kids had myocarditis that was serious. Two kids hospitalized. They confirmed it by MRI. They used the latest troponin assay, highest quality EKG and MRI tech. That was a wonderful paper, and that's followed on the last few weeks by a study done from a very renowned cardiologist, Christian Mueller in Basel, Switzerland.

I personally know him. He's a friend of mine. He studies 777 health care workers, gets troponin before and after the third shot. And now it doesn't get EKGs and echoes and all the MRI, but what does he find? He finds the rate of a significant, a characteristic rise of a troponin, which is a rise and then a fall over four days as characteristic for cardiac injury in 2.8% of individuals, 2.8. So Mansugian 2.3, Mueller, 2.8, is presented at the European Society. of cardiology, which is the biggest cardiology meeting in the world. And now, days later, Pfizer-Moderna announced they're going to start their cardiac studies for myocarditis.

Unbelievable. And that is so egregious when you're now telling me they were told they were supposed to be doing that very early on that they wouldn't get approval if they didn't do it. They didn't do it. And I fault the FDA before I even fault Moderna or Pfizer. The regulatory agency, this is your job. Your job is. Your job is. to enforce and make sure the proper studies are being done. And I always wonder as I sit here, Peter, whether 2.3% sounds like enough to people. So here's what I would say to somebody.

Here's it is you're at a school function for your child. There's 100 kids in the class, and they have 100 cupcakes out. Two and a half of these are going to lead to a heart condition. You know, do you just say, hey, go ahead. We'll take that risk with our kid to eat any cupcake you want because that's what we're talking about. We're not talking a risk out of a million anymore.

or 100,000, which is what we're told, what I find fascinating, and we've covered a little bit of this trial, is it's only 301 kids. If injury, we are always told vaccine injury, we've been told this for century now, but certainly decades is it's a one in a million. It's a one in a million. If it's one in a million, 300 should not be enough to even see your problem. I mean, that study, you would get lucky if you saw one case, and instead you're saying they have seven cases out of 300. That is so horrifying. In the face of what we've been told about

the safety record of vaccines, you would think this program would be stopped in its tracks. Well, it should have been stopped. I've, you know, I've testified in the U.S. Senate, twice now, multiple states Senate. I said a single case of fatal vaccine-induced mitochonditis should have shut the program down. For sure, should have changed the consent form. I've recently checked the consent form, which nowadays the consent just refers people to an FAQ. I read the AQ, nowhere on it does it say fatal vaccine-induced myocarditis. Right. It's complete.

Now a known. It's an absolutely known and recognized. Now think about this. Coronavirus since the 1990s themselves, it was known they could cause cardiac injury. It was enough to stimulate the military and college football to screen for COVID. Then the vaccines come and the vaccine manufacturers do not measure Traponin during the registrational trials. when they knew this rich history that this was going to cause heart damage.

In fact, they knew it so much that COVID-19 could cause heart damage. Why wouldn't the vaccines with the spike protein cause heart damage? And they are willfully blind to any cardiac toxicity of the vaccines. And we are deep in trouble now because there is a clear recognition that this malacharditis, and some people can lead to a scar. The scar is a small area of like a scar you see on your skin. But the electricity goes down. and when it goes through the scar, it depolarizes slowly, then it loops up, and it forms reentry.

And when reentry occurs during a normal cardiac depolarization, that's the nitis for ventricular tachycardia or VT, and that isn't a heart rhythm. In me or you, that can be well over 200 beats a minute, it starts to make us dizzy, and if we don't do something, it degenerates to ventricular fibrillation, and then we're gone, we're on the floor, and CPR is started, and if you've seen any of these montages of these athletes, When this happens, they go down like a rock. They can't even hold out their hands to protect themselves. We're just absolutely slamming to the floor.

We have seen montage after montage of people having sudden cardiac death. It's called Sudden Adult Death Syndrome. Yeah, that's crazy. And, you know, myself and Assamahotra, a prominent cardiologist in the UK, have come up with the same conclusion that when we see a young person now who's previously healthy, no antecedent illness, and they suddenly die. and the two patterns are dying in sleep, typically from 3 a.m. to 6 a.m. Or dying during sports.

By the way, both of those time periods, there's a rise in noraphenephyran, which is probably an internal trigger for this. And there's no suicide, there's no drug overdose, there's no motor vehicle accident. It is the COVID-19 vaccine and subclinical myocarditis, like in the Gill paper, until the parents come out or the family comes out and they tell us otherwise. And the family can clear this up, Del. If they come out and say, listen, they didn't take the vaccine, okay, we'll lay down our concern. But let's be conservative and assume right now that these are fatal vaccine-induced microditis cases.

Here's what I've spoken about for years all through COVID we discussed, but has, you know how you just keep saying things enough times, but something occurs you that's so simple and so horrifying. And this is it when I look at these trials. You have design trials. You have tested products. You know what this is all about. I feel like every time we're seeing something now in population, a population issue pops up. But myocardis, we go back, well, what did they see in the trials? And you find out that they literally built a wall to make sure that they didn't allow anyone to investigate that particular issue.

Almost like they expected they would have that issue if they looked for it and didn't want to reveal it. And I want to say this, I want to really put this through to people because it's sinister. I'm not going to go as far as why they're doing it, but what has happened here? We have President Biden telling, well, first Donald Trump, Donald Trump saying I'm going to sink more money into the warp speed of this vaccine than any vaccine or technology in the history of medicine. More money. We are opening the floodgates to Moderna and Pfizer and anyone that wants to be a part of this competition. You now have money coming out every, you know, doorway and entryway there is. We are being told we will spend, and that's just America. There's France and Germany,

everyone's pouring money into these few companies. They do trials of tens of thousands of people. And one of the issues we know from the beginning, from animal trials with Barrick, even into the very first, you know, approaches of this vaccine, myocarditis is popping up. We see it with AstraZeneca. We got some sort of blood clodding issue. All of this is known, as you're saying. And here's what's so shocking to me. And I said this on the show. Hit me the other day. We are living in a country throughout this lock, locking us down, destroying our jobs. My friends, I come from Hollywood, they can't get onto a film set without being PCR-dressed every single day. Every single day, they have to take a test. There are elementary schools in this country that were testing

some of them every day, but at least once a week on Monday, you're getting the swab rammed up your nose. You can't get into your preschool without getting tested. Then we go and look at the school. We're go and look at these trials where we are testing a brand new mRNA technology, never been injected into a human being before, could alter DNA, RNA. We don't know. We don't know how this is going to work. And the one thing a vaccine is supposed to do is get us out of this pandemic, which means it's going to stop transmission. The only way to figure out if it stops transmission, we're being told the biggest carrier, the biggest issue is an asymptomatic carrier, meaning someone that has it but doesn't know they have it and they're spreading it. That's why we're all

down and masked up and then why we're PCR testing every day. And it occurs to me, the only place in this country where you were safe from daily or weekly PCR testing, everyone in a job, in a school, they're being subjected to it. But the only place you can be sure you don't have to worry about a PCR test is in the freaking trials of the vaccine itself. The one place we need to know can it stop transmission is the only place they're walking in and out. They're doing whatever they want. They're hugging each other. We don't care. We're not testing you. And we're not testing for myocarditis. We're not testing troponin levels. We know we have potential heart issues. Why are we sticking these people in a room? Why are they in the clinical trial? Forty-five thousand of

them for the one and 30,000 the other. The billions of dollars, isn't that what a trial is supposed to be doing? I mean, it just defies reason to the point of it being purposely criminal. Well, you know, it's an interesting option. I've never heard someone to put it together that way, but you make perfect sense that the clinical trial is not only for efficacy, but it's for safety and very importantly risk mitigation. No new product is ever going to be free of problems, and it's never going to be applied to everybody. So we always have to figure out who is it going to cause problems for. What I'm making a case for, there was 20 years of data about coronaviruses, spike protein, myocarditis. there was enough to have everybody get worried with COVID.

For sure, they should have measured troponin with the before and after each injection. It should have been cardiac safety built in. For sure, we should have done things. You know, transmission actually would have been tested with what's called challenge studies. And there was a discussion. Oxford discussed this originally.

That is taking somebody who's vaccinated and just put them face to face with someone with COVID. Now, that would have been a challenge study. No one had the guts to do this. But everything we've learned about the vaccine. At least. At least. least PCR test once a week.

Listen to this. We should have known what we call pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics. So we learn this after the vaccines are released. And everything we've learned gives everybody a sense of nausea. Let me feel you with some of these citations. Fertikin colleagues figures out how to measure the measurements of RNA. It goes up in the bloodstream and stays up for two weeks. That's when they stopped.

We don't know when it goes down. But it's circulatory for two weeks. Four in messenger RNA in the body, presumably on lipid nanoparticles are now in exosomes. Another piece of information. That's problematic because we're told it's just located in the arm. It's short-lived and it disappears, dissipates. Right. The body's getting the body's kicking and this is over.

Right. Running all through your body. It's running through your body at least two weeks. Yeah. They, Rolkin, Stanford, they're getting lymph node biopsis for other reasons, but they learn how to sustain for the messenger RNA. It's in lymph nodes for two months. for two months, now JAMA, Hannah and colleagues, breast milk.

It's found messenger RNA in breast milk, and that broke, and someone pulled a Reuters press release a year earlier, says, oh, don't worry, it doesn't come out in breast milk, and there it is in breast milk. So if it's circulatory in blood, and it's in breast milk, and even in the Hannah paper, they simply say, listen, it's everywhere, it's in oral secretions, it's in eugenal secretions, it's in sweat,

It's in breast milk. We don't know when this clears out of the body. Remember the genetics are the code to produce the spike protein. The person who knows the most about the spike protein and where it is in the body and how long it lasts is Bruce Patterson at Insel DX, former pathologist at Northwestern in Stanford. Bruce has reviewed the data, published the best he can. As far as he can tell, it doesn't get out of the body. The spike protein doesn't.

We're still waiting for someone to take a vaccine and be shown to be clear of messer. and clear of spike protein so far that that has not been demonstrated in the scientific literature. I think about, you know, we've had, I've had several interviews with Dr. Robert Malone, who's involved in inventing this technology for vaccines. One of the things, and it speaks to your point, one of the things he said to me is that when he first said, look, this is what, his work starts as trying to use MRNA technology to do a gene insertion to fix issues like cancer in the future by sending an MRNA in that can insert itself and somehow like get in there and fix a DNA issue.

He realizes through years of this that it's going nowhere because the immune system's attacking that MRNA before it can really find purchase, the seed binds purchase where it wants to, but he says this is what he said to me. Then it hit me, you know, it's not going to work for gene therapy, but it'd be great as a vaccine. The reason being that it will, you know, it'll get in. there, it'll be there just long enough to stimulate the immune system to start making antibodies, but it won't stay in circulation, which could lead to autoimmune disease and all sorts of other

issues, which is always the big concern with vaccines. He's like, this would be a perfect vaccine because it'll be there, very short-lived, you know, the immune system's really good at killing it. We know it is, and then boom, you've got your antibodies, you're moving on. What he said to me was so shocking is that they took away the whole reason he thought it was a good idea, which was they inserted this uridine, they basically, Okay, you hit it. Shifted the structure of the DNA of this spike protein,

which is the bioweapon of the virus we're talking about, they make it so that it can persist. So instead of being able to be killed by the immune system, it's putting the immune system asleep, it's able to hang out. And as you're saying now, this thing, we don't know if it ever dies. It's going all over the place.

It's not going away. Right. Right. So messenger RNA has ribonucleic acids and it has a three prime and five prime cap. The innovation was to, to develop these nucleoside analog caps, which are undigestable. Now, normally, your body is making messenger RNA all the time.

You have RNA aces that quickly break them down. There is a product, by the way, that I can use in cardiology. It's called Enclinzeran. Enclinzoran is a small interfering RNA that interferes for the production of PCSK9, an important regulatory protein that we deal in lipid metabolism. Now, the pharmacokinetics of that has been studied by the company, which took years to develop it,

and that rises in the bloodstream and it goes down in a day because it doesn't have those synthetic analog caps and the body clears it. With the vaccines, they have these synthetic analog caps, and this deep history of messenger RNA really goes back to the military.

Our DARPA, which is the military research division, has had a program. It's called the Protect Adept P3 program, the pandemic planning prevention program. since 2012, and they have said on their website that they plan to basically handle pandemics in 60 days using messenger RNA technology. That's the U.S. military in 2012 working with vaccine consultants and others. So this wasn't Operation Warp Speed. This wasn't Pfizer-Modern at J&J.

This is the endgame for a military operation that's been going on since 2012? It's military conceived. Now, others are involved for sure. Now, we know Moderna wrote the patent with the National Institutes of Health, and Stefan Bainzel, who was the CEO of BioMirou, the French company, they built the biosecurity annex level four security in Wuhan. Now, Bainzell does this in 2011. Then he changes companies, and he joins Moderna.

So a CEO of a huge company joins a very small company in Cambridge, Massachusetts. It's in our book, Courage to Face COVID-19. We capture all this history. By the way, here we go. Just, everyone, if you haven't read this book, you better, you know, go out, copies running off the shelves everywhere. It really is. What I love about this is, you've got John Leake as your partner on this. We had both of you want to discuss this book.

Crime writer, he really deals with this as though you're reading a crime novel, which is exactly what this is. It's a page turner. But the head scratcher is, why would now billionaire, Stefan Beenzel, leave this, you know, wonderful French company where he's doing all this great stuff and he joins the tiny company Moderna and they start working on the patent with the NIH for the Moderna patent. Note that Moderna is now suing Pfizer and you're right. Something is very unique about this messenger RNA when you think about it segments of it probably had to be humanized so the body would read it and wouldn't reject it. This is very important and then a paper just came out from Nunes

Castilla, very interesting paper. studying the spike protein, the product of the genetics. And what they showed is probably three dozen areas of humanization, meaning the spike protein has homology to human proteins itself. And what Nunes Castellis is saying is that, listen, this is the setup for autoimmunity. It was used to make the body accept it probably and read it and make the spike protein, you know, the genetics at least manageable.

But now this chronic exposure, the fact that human body, are being exposed day by day to a foreign protein that looks like it doesn't even that maybe let me try and simplify it and see if I got this close which is what you're saying is there are elements of this now that genetically will look like your own body could look like you know the myelin sheath for instance and so if that's the case if it ends up looking like a protein or body or something in the body then your immune system in creating the ability to fight this spike protein will say oh there's There's spike protein there.

No, that's my body. That's not the spike protein. That's the thing that looks like the spike protein, but it's actually part of my body. It starts attacking. And now that immune system attack upon your own body is the definition of autoimmune. Yeah, I think you have it. And I think specifically since the genetics install in somatic cells, meaning they're not just in immune cells, but they're in heart muscle cells, they're in the support cells

in the brain. The cells themselves express spike protein on the surface. And then the body says, wait a minute, that's not supposed to be there. I'm going to attack you. So I've interviewed Dr. Polykretis from Italy, who has the belief that every cell that expresses spike protein is under attack from another cell. It's just, it's a cellular war going on

introduced by these vaccines. This has always been to me, and I've described, I'm a laborist, no medical background whatsoever. I just, let's be reasonable here. What this vaccine does is it basically, I say, is like a recipe or a code that is sent inside my own cells, and then it teaches my cell how to make the spike protein, the most dangerous part of the virus.

Then it starts making the spike protein, put it on the outside of the cell, and then all of a sudden my immune system is going, oh my God, I'm under attack. Not by something that I just breathed through my nose, not by something I just got in my lungs and, you know, is where I have an alarm system for this. Suddenly it's appearing and it's being created by my own cells.

My own cells are now the enemy that my immune system is saying, oh my God, these cells are producing a viral, you know, bio weapon, that could kill me, and so it literally sees your own cells producing it as the enemy. How does that not lead to autoimmune disease? I mean, to me, I'm glad there's scientists backing up, but as a late person, that seemed like that would be the only route. I mean, it's just crazy.

You know, there are still announcements that we hear from biotech companies and the manufacturers that we know, saying that this is just the beginning. There's going to be messenger RNA for influenza, for, respiratory synceitial virus, that we're going to install the genetic code for many pathogens, that we're going to express many pathogens, and this is going to be the basis of our new immune program. It's horrifying. Based on the great science that we already did that showed how safe this is. I mean, we jumped out of the science, got an EUA. We erased the placebo group as soon as we had an EUA because, God forbid, we have a placebo group that continues on, and those that are being injured

are not getting the time of day from Moderna or Pfizer. They're being ignored and lied about to the FDA. So all of it's a giant cover-up. And now based on this terrible science that is not being done, not testing turponin, not even doing a PCR test while you're in the trials while the rest of the world's having me PCR test to walk in a door.

And then you come out of it saying, oh, no, it was a success. We're going to bring flu shots and chickenpox shots and all sorts of small and large issues using mRNA technology. We could go on and on, about all that you've worked on on the issues of the vaccine. I want to ask you this, because as a doctor and a scientist,

and someone who I'm sure spent most of your career looking up to those at the CDC and the FDA that have provided all the science and evidence that back up all the great work you have done, when you looked at this, and while you made this book, this is probably better to even say the courage to face COVID-19, you're looking at sort of this almost criminal enterprises taking place,

how would you just do this? describe the regulatory agencies. Now, are they protecting us? Are they infiltrated? Where are the red flags? Because I feel like this is our biggest issue. I never believe that industries are looking out for my best good. They're trying to make a dollar. I don't care. BP spills oil in the ocean. It's not lost on me. The first thing they're going to do is try and hide it. It wasn't me. I didn't take the cookie out of the cookie jar. Companies lie. Industries that make billions of dollars, I think they're liars. They tend to lie to cover their own butts. That's not who I have an issue with. They're acting normally.

FDA, CDC, NIH, Health and Human Services, these agencies are there, knowing this is a pack of liars that have lost billions and billions of dollars for death and injury from products they've made before. They're supposed to be protecting us. Robert Kennedy Jr. often saying they've been subsumed. They're infiltrated. What is your take? Well, you know, the people are calling this now the alphabet agencies, right? All these three-letter agencies. And they exist all over the world.

We could extend it to the MHRA in England, the TGA in Australia, EMA in Europe. One of the first concerns that I've already mentioned it is the NIH can co-write patents with companies. The National Institutes of Health should never be able to co-write a patent with Moderna on a vaccine and then turn around and have an NIH division director promote vaccines. Right then and there. Tony Fauci. Tony Fauci is promoting a product saying it's safe when people in size. that regulatory agency are going to make money from the product.

Right. So whether it's him or the agency, it's just, it's a gross conflict of interest. Yes. Let's take the FDA. Remember before COVID, emergency use authorization had been used for anthrax and a few other products. It's always military. Okay. It is a military-oriented regulation so the military can move quickly to protect our soldiers. Under emergency use authorization, it's not entirely clear if the FDA really has a regulatory role. Does it? the FDA really need to opine on something or do they not, it's unclear. The FDA is showing no interest in even evaluating safety data on the EOA products to shut them down. When they were offered,

they were offered by HHS, Alex Azar, so the HHS has to sign off on something that there is an emergency, and they're offered by the Department of Defense. The FDA's behavior almost seems like choreography to me as opposed to tough regulatory behavior. to make matters worse, though, the named sponsors of the U.S. vaccine program that are administering the program to America are the CDC and the FDA. The FDA should not be a named sponsor of the program. The FDA ought to be a separate watchdog advised by independent doctors. The FDA ought to be the first one to say there's a safety problem. We're going to shut it down. I think they're all now, there's an entanglement there where no one at the FDA either wants to shut this down or even wants to look at safety,

or they feel as if they're part of the spirit of the program to get a needle in every arm. You just presented a thought to me that I'm not putting it together. Let me pose a hypothesis that puts two thoughts together that you've just said. You just told me that the military, you know, was the one talking about MRNA technology as a pandemic response back in 2012. 2012, they're already looking at technology. I don't know. Obviously, they've done human trials.

haven't heard about, I would guess, because I thought so far what we can see in our investigations is this technology really hasn't, as a vaccine, been testing human beings. That was what Warp's Speed was all about. But if this was an approach by our military, you know, in a future pandemic, now put aside whether or not COVID was a test run or a real run or they really thought it was a viral, that doesn't matter. The point being that up until now you're saying EUAs have really only been used for the military. Right. That it is. isn't an FDA function necessarily. It's just the military.

We are rushing our guys in the battle. Anthrax is a problem. We don't have time to see if this vaccine is safe or not. We're going to go ahead and take the risk. We're going to move with it. And so now COVID vaccine needs to be used in a pandemic model, exactly as described back in 2012. And the FDA, and this would, in this hypothesis, it would answer something that's never

been any sense, seems to just be like, what, it's like somebody that just tell me what boxes check, I'm not reading it, and handing it over. Right. And public statements really matter. Dr. Rubin, the editor of the Ring of Journal of Medicine, said at the pediatric meetings in the fall of 2021, we will never know if this is safe in children unless we just go and do it. So the behavior was not the FDA worried about safety. The FDA is actually just waving this on.

It appears to be choreographer, you know, the current. But I've been looking at the FDA as the head top of this thing, and you're saying, no, military and governments ahead of this, there's a chance all they are is just signing off on a dictate coming from above. Right, HHS in the military, that's really the organizational setup, health and human services in the military. So the FDA is in a sense, in a choreographic position to kind of approve or do something. You know, the current head of the FDA, someone who I know Robert Kala from Duke, he is a hardcore clinical trialist, a drug safety hog. He's made his living looking at safety of cardiovascular drugs.

He's the most silent person in America right now. You don't hear from him. The other observation is the CDC. The CDC really doesn't have any role in administering a vaccine program. Remember, the CDC, and many of my fellow residents, I trained in University of Washington, they were CDC officers. The CDC, for instance, came in in Dallas and the Ebola outbreak, did a great job.

Hanta virus did a great job. What do they do? What does the CDC do? They do outbreak investigation. do in vitro diagnostics, they actually help get a head start on assays and data analytics. But the CDC has never come out and run a public program. And here we have the FDA and CDC, never having done that, if we ever were going to have a mass vaccination program, that's so important to America, we should have had a vaccine administration

set up. And we should have had independent oversight, data safety monitoring board, monthly safety reviews, human ethics committees. We should have had the Cadillac program because there could have been risk mitigation. There could have been an opportunity to figure out who is getting myocarditis, who is dying with the vaccines. How can we change it? Maybe the doses are too strong. Maybe there are certain risk groups. You know, there's a late-breaking paper by Idywit and colleagues from Thailand showing that a certain mutation called the SCN-5A mutation in the heart, a sodium channel. That's the risk predictor for the sudden death in a small study that vaccine-induced myocarditis.

So there's the innovation, right? So the idea is we could have actually managed this. instead to put the CDC and FDA as the sponsors of the program, the FDA kind of hand-waving this along, having the roots of messenger RNA be DARPA, this is all starting to come out now. So DARPA, here we are then back to military and government, you know, is all entangled in this, which would explain why none of this is sort of making sense from a lay perspective. I'm not seeing the puzzle pieces coming together the wave I've ever seen them before. there are other interests involved here. And then there's the, what I would say,

not only are these regulatory agencies invested in these products, which is really scary. By the way, we just sent Peter Marks, basically saying you need to take down your promotional videos of the COVID vaccine because your own EUA says you're not allowed to make these statements without saying this product hasn't been properly safety test, it's under, you know,

so they're breaking their own rules and they're becoming propaganda machines. But you could break your own rules if it's a military operation. Interesting. Interesting. You know, the state of Kansas just prohibited all COVID-19 vaccine commercials because they're not safe and effective. Right.

It violates the Truth in Advertising Act, the Landman Act, the US Drug and Cosmetic Act. Pharmaceutical companies can't go on TV and just say, our product is safe and effective. Use it. They have to give disclosures about what could happen. So you see things off the rails. I mentioned the consent form not being updated. What consent form would not be updated with a new medical problem?

The package inserts are always updated. So this has all the look and feel of a military operation when they say, listen, we don't have to follow these rules. The military doesn't follow typical rules because it's an emergency. Now, you know, in the last few days, the first thing Republicans do is they put forward a bill to end the COVID-19 emergency. And what's President Biden's response? Vito, want the emergency to go.

This is a red flag. When our leaders push to extend emergencies that don't exist, I'll tell you, doctors are the ones who will make the call and whether or not there's a COVID emergency. When they do that, that's telling you they're drunk on power. Yes. They're drunk on power. We're under a national COVID emergency that's been extended,

and we're under a national monkeypox emergency. I don't see anybody worried about monkeypox. let alone perceive an emergency. It's really incredible. I mean, there's so many things we could get into, but let's get into the personal effect this has had on you now because you, as you are right here, and you've said before,

I make sure I list every author that's put out the studies. You are, I don't know how you're able to hold all this information in your brain. There's a reason why you've been more published than any heart doctor in the world. There's a reason, you know, why you've risen, to the fame. You've made every hospital you've been at prior to COVID. You're the star of that establishment. And yet you, of all people, speaking the truth, not from the top of your head or

making things up, citing the science as a heart specialist, pointing out the myocreditist, pointing out the proponent issues, how you should be testing for it, you are now, I would say, of everybody, you're in real jeopardy of having your certifications removed. In fact, let me just go ahead and read the letter that you received just recently. This is sent to Dr. Peter McCullough. Dear Dr. McCullough, the American Board of Internal Medicine, ABIM, provided you notice by letter dated May 26, 2022, the notice that ABIM's credentials and certification committee, CCC, would consider whether to recommend a disciplinary sanction against you in light of public statements you made, about the purported dangers of or lack of justification for COVID-19 vaccines.

In light of all the evidence and circumstances, the CCC determined to recommend that your board certifications be revoked. And then I think it lists a whole bunch of specific statements and things that you have made throughout COVID and you're having to address those specific statements. This is serious, and it's troubling that, as we've said, opening this up. It's not like there's one group that has a science and then someone just making something up. There is, at the very least, conflicting science, I would say the body of science is defending your perspective. I think what they're calling science is wishful thinking. It's a lot of red stamping, you know, or just pushing things through.

We can't quite figure out. Maybe it's military. but the science being done by worldwide, universities, nations is all really showing what you've been saying, yet you're at risk of not being a heart doctor in the future. This is deeply troubling. I think anybody looking at this should view me as an example for them. We have a million doctors in the United States, half a million nurse practitioners and physician assistants. I have consistently been, as you know, I've testified twice in the U.S. Senate, multiple state

senators. I am asked by request to answer questions under oath to do the best I can as a citizen. I've shown up and I've done my job. You know, interesting talking points, Steve Bannon and former White House advisor, he's close to going to prison because he didn't show up in Congress and testify. I've showed up upon request and testified. I've done my job as a citizen. I've provided commentary on major news stations, ABC, Fox, Real America, you name it. And I have 60 peer-reviewed publications on the topic.

When Peter Novaro reached out to me from the White House and needed help, I answered the call. When Senator Johnson called me, I answered the call. It's all in the book, Courage to face COVID-19. And now the American Board, which is only concerned with, did I complete my residency, and did I pass my board exams? Do I have clinical competence? That's what they usually focus on. That's what they're not focused on.

They don't go out and police what doctors say about heart disease, diabetes, or kidney disease. In fact, the Supreme Court says as a doctor, I have free speech. It's been asserted that a doctor in his or her public statements and talking with patients has free speech. What the ABIM does is in September of 2021, they announced that they're going to have a COVID misinformation campaign. And they put that out there. And what they did in my case is they went back in time to March of 2021. And they said, aha, you made statements when you answered questions in the Texas Senate that we disagree with. And you are now hereby accused of misinformation.

And they pulled in other statements. And then they said, well, we're going to have a committee meeting on you. So I said, can I attend the meeting? No, you can't. Well, I submitted a response document. supporting everything I said, more citation, about 20 pages. They have a meeting. We don't know what the methods of the meeting were,

what types of criteria did they use. I did analyze who attended that meeting. Nobody at that meeting has any research competency in COVID. None of them have any original publications on COVID. None of them have given any testimony or public statements on COVID. The American Board of Internal Medicine hasn't issued any learning modules. They haven't issued any media guidance for doctors. nothing and they come to this conclusion and when they come to the conclusion

then they say and we've come to this conclusion and here's our evidence of what we think the science is so then they present their evidence after the conviction has already happened this violates every aspect of due process there was no equal protection how did they review all the doctors they didn't tell me they went ex post facto they went back in time then they produce evidence after they've made their decision and the evidence that they produce is actually in my view incorrect they've looked at proportions of deaths and age group and try to intimate that as risk I may my response my next response to them

I go to the CDC and I said the CDC indicates risk my case fatality ratio and I give the case fatality ratios yeah so even the evidence that they've quote cited these try to use a population-based model no they actually use proportions of deaths and age group and said well you said below a certain age it's the risks is negligible well it is according to the case fatality rate so this is precisely the type of disagreement and interpretation of data that deserves discussion. And Senator Ron Johnson, when this all happened, called Richard Barron, American Barrett and wrote a letter, called him out and said, let's discuss it.

Let's discuss it, what the issues are. Barron refuses to do so. He tweets a few days later that he's joining forces with the American Medical Association, so there's no discussion. So Johnson writes the board and so, listen, I asked McCullough to come and testify. He did the best he could twice. Senator Bob Hall from Texas writes and said, listen, I called McCullough,

he testified for Health and Human Services. He helped us. And then... With the best I could. The best you could, with what evidence in this brand new virus, this brand new issue, it's an evolving virus, right. So that's all very fair statements.

And then innumerable doctors write the board. Now the board says that I have a right to appeal, that in a sense, the conviction has occurred, I have the right to appeal, I have to name witnesses, name attorneys, ask for an in-person or a virtual meeting, and this all has to be in a few days.

You have PR firms directly infiltrating medical boards, conflicts of interest like crazy. I was going to say, I found the timing suspicious, too, in that you had Ron Johnson running for office saying, I am going to bring investigations on the injuries from vaccines. I'm going to call, you know, Fauci and others. You had Rand Paul saying, I'm all over this. I'm going after gain of function. And I just thought in the climate, the Democratic Party, which seems to have taken a side on this, I'm not political about it,

but there's a politics around it. And there was a concern that should there be this red wave, the power of investigation that would be there. And I have to assume they all know, one of the primary voices and specialists that's going to appear, here is you to you have before you've been at the hearings for Ron Johnson but here in Texas boy it is sure a lot better if the number one witness they're going to bring in the most educated and highest credential person they can say yeah but that guy lost his license he's in you know he's

uncertified uncertified not licensed uncertified doctor they want to demote it to discredit what i think they're concerned you're about to say in what may be some of the most important investigations and hearings in this country? Well, there may be help on the way from Senator Rampaul. The bombshell news breaks that we learn that the A-B-I-M is now, it appears to be working with the PR firm that is representing Pfizer and Moderna, and it gets deeper than that. Wow.

Weber-Shandwick. Weber-Shandwick is a long-standing, the world's largest PR firm, public relations firm. they have a long-standing business relationship with Pfizer. In 2020, they pick up the marketing contract for Moderna. So Pfizer-Moderna have Weber-Shandwick. Weber-Shandwick then engages in a relationship with Weschel Lewinsky and the CDC. They get a $53 million contract from the CDC, and then Weber-Shandwick embeds their marketing team for Pfizer-Moderna within the CDC.

in Atlanta. They are in an embedded unit. And these young individuals who work for the marketing term, they're posting their posts on LinkedIn and others saying, hey, I got, I'm embedded in the CDC now, promoting COVID-19 vaccines, Pfizer-Moderna, because Weber-Shanwick now is, has as their contracts, they have the CDC and they have Pfizer-Moderna. Senator Ram Paul writes a letter, October 24th, 2020, and he writes to Rochelle Winski. It says, what is this? There it is. Okay. What is this, Del, that you have an embedded marketing unit for the vaccine companies within the CDC.

The CDC should have nothing to do with pharma. They should. Certainly nothing to do with the marketing arm of pharma, like the advertiser. No, no, come on in. Not only will we go in to refute. Like, we're going to bring you in to help us. How can they be a fair broker of children who need to receive vaccines when they have embedded marketing units? And now how this ties to the American Board of Internal Medicine, this is a stunning, South by Southwest, which is a very notable festival and IT meeting here in Austin, puts up on its schedule for next year a session called When Doctors Prescribed Misinformation.

Who are the panelists for this? One is Alia Mosen from Weber Shandwick, Wasim Khalid from Blackbird AI, which is an AI company, and Richard Barron, the CEO of American Board of Internal Medicine. So there they are in public. So now we... As a three separate specialists, but really it's the same... Just bring them together.

There's the connection. So now we can see what's going on. Anybody who stands in the way of these vaccines and the power of Pfizer-Moderna is going to be steamrolled. And Americans don't have a chance unless it's people like me and Ram Paul and Ron Johnson and you and others who stand up. Where's your career at now? I know that when this all started, you were at Baylor. They ended up saying, under the circumstances, you had another job.

Is this affecting your career? Yeah, so what happened was I had an administrative and clinical role at a major medical center in Dallas. And that job terminated really before the vaccines in January of 2021 after I had published greatly on COVID, investigational drug applications, testified in the U.S. Senate, did everything I could. I basically was shown the door. About six months later, I was then sued by that health system for media and their interpretation that I was dragging them into the media. Well, I still had hospital privileges there. I still saw an examined patients.

I transferred my practice to a private practice, which thrived. Thousands of calls for new patient appointments, brought in lots more patients to the medical center, stayed the same medical center, but different employer. Now on the heels of this announcement, I've just been let go from that job with no substantive reason. And the only thing I can conclude is that with a perfect clinical track record, perfect set of board scores. I've taken the American board,

maternal medicine four times, done great, cardiology three times. You know, they rely on my research and the board questions. I've done the best I can. What I'm concluding is I'm on the brink of being probably the first doctor in modern American history to be stripped of my residency and my fellowship and my credential six years of my life and all of this effort for political reasons around COVID-19 and largely for doing my service as a citizen, testifying under oath. Is there anything we have, an audience of millions watching this, that you have been keeping us updated.

Many people out there, I think, are saying themselves, my life was safe because I listened to Dr. Peter McCullough, and I avoided that vaccine, went with the different approaches that have also been presented here. Now we wanna help you. Obviously, you're gonna have legal costs, things like that. Is there a way that we can get involved? We have a very active community out there.

How can we help? because if you go down, it's the dominoes for everyone else out there. That's what they want, right? They want to scare every other doctor. I don't want to scare every other doctor. I want them to say, I'm following Peter McCullough won and survived that. So what can we do to help? Well, I tell you, I will win and survive, and there's always a silver lining.

I have a website, peter McCulloughmd.com. You can go there. There is a support button. It goes to a funding mechanism, which is always appreciated. But I want people to know there are good organizations. out there. Association of American Physician and Surgeons, AAPSonline.org. They are suing the ABIM in general for a violation, my civil rights and every other person's civil rights who've been hit with these decertifications. So aAPS online.org, they take no pharma

money. They clearly could benefit from good public support. And then the new venture, and the new venture, I think, is very exciting. I've taken a board position on the chief scientific officer now for the wellness company. And the wellness company is a national alternative healthcare system. It's virtual. It's through a cell phone app or a computer. It will have some physical presence, but it involves verticals of doctors and patient care, community pharmacies that will always reliably dispense the drugs, in vitro diagnostics, imaging,

counseling, nutraceuticals and supplements. It's about a $5 app on the cell phone. It's affordable. The physician visits are very affordable. It's a cash-based system where the more expensive. expensive things can go like labs and abetri-diagnosis can go on insurance. But the wellness company will provide care where patients now have been denied. You know, there's people who have taken a vaccine and they can't even see their doctor.

There's still acute COVID patients that are desperate to get Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine or prednisone. So the wellness company, I think, is going to be a great opportunity. Everybody could sign up for that and just have it as a backup. By the way, company after company is signing up having the wellness company, be its supplemental benefit. So that way the company- And you'll have your own pharmacy, I take it, or a connection to a pharmacy to make sure.

Yeah, they're gonna be a whole listing and grouping of community pharmacies, which have really been the heroes in this. That's how we got through with my family. Yeah, and you know, naturopathic doctors have been heroes through this whole process. We have a clinical pharmacist that are gonna help. There's gonna be a big effort on what's called deprescribing.

There's patients have been loaded up on a whole variety of neurotropic drugs and others, and we've got to start to thin out the pharmacopoeia there. So I'm going to actually move my practice onto the wellness company platform. I'll be a bit more virtual. I'll probably have the first physical installation of the wellness company in the DFW area. So what's coming out of this, Dell, is that I will become stronger and louder. My analyses are pinpoint.

The truth will come out. There is no way that individuals who are advancing this vaccine, syndicate, this agenda, what we call in our book, the biopharmacidical complex, there's no way that they can prevail when we hold the truth. I totally agree. I love that you're so passionate and not just sort of running from this, but you are charging headlong into it truly heroic and brilliant. And you are such a difference maker. You're what is given hope. I think this movement is growing leaps and bounds. There are so many successes that I point to all the time. but you know in many ways you're such a catalyst for great change and I think a brighter

future and I think these sort of virtual medical spaces and things is going to bring a whole new approach towards how medicine can be practiced and how we can be more involved in the decisions we're making with our own health I just want to really have you just quickly hit us up I know in Dallas you and the British heart doctor that has spoken out I've seen Mahaltra, who has been on, we've had him on, virtually on this show, but you guys are going to be speaking live in Dallas just a couple of weeks. We are. You know, we've been communicating back and forth, text email, and actually talking for nearly two years now, prominent, younger, more handsome UK cardiologist, and of course, he's smarter with the British accent. You know, someone has a British accent. I think my uncle Ivan told me he's British. I think it's like a four-fold increase.

in perceived, not real intelligence, perceived. Except being able to list authors of studies and name like the studies, I think that, I think you take the lead there. But Malhotra is really a wonderful case study because as you've probably viewed your audience, his father takes the vaccine, a very former, prominent physician, almost certainly has a vaccine-related atheroscotic cardiovascular event dies. And Malhotra, who is promoting the vaccines on Good Morning Britain, whatever, has to come to the realization that, listen, they have been.

big safety issues. I'm talking to him, coaching him. He says, I have to do my own analysis. I have to write my own papers. And he does it, and he gets them published. And that's very hard to do. I give him great credit. And then he comes out and says, I have to warn people. And so Malhotra's coming. Assam is coming. November 29th, we're going to be in the Dallas Arboretum. Great. Anybody at DFW area. If you want to get in there, definitely www.vaxafety.org slash events, a really brilliant event. You're looking at two of the biggest voices in heart health in the world now standing together discussing COVID and the vaccine. This is changed upon us. This is what has to happen. I always say in many ways, these are the birth pangs. I think this

COVID thing, whether it's military driven, whatever it ends up being, to me, it's sort of the white knuckle grasp of the Neanderthals of medicine trying to hold onto their relevance as really this paradigm of medicine is shifting. And, you know, I feel like people like you are that transitional space. You're leading us into, I think, a better world. I really see this as positive in the end, but change is difficult and it's painful. It is so refreshing to see someone that's in as much turmoil, shall we say, as you are and still smiling, beautiful, and speaking all over the place. It's just truly an honor to know you. Thank you so much.

And have you here. Our blessings are with you, and we're going to support you in every way we can. Thank you. All right. Take care.