The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 331: OUT OF THE MADNESS
Episode Date: August 5, 2023Chase Bank Puts A Life At Risk After Canceling Mercola and Staff Bank Accounts; Jefferey Jaxen Reports on COVID Shot Finally Coming into the Crosshairs as Heart Problems In Young People Mount; After B...eing Labeled ‘Domestic Terrorists’ For Pushing Back Against COVID Mandates Regulators Are Set To Employ Same Tactics To Achieve ‘Climate Compliance’; ‘What is A Woman’ Star Has a Path Out of The Madness; Next Week Firebrand Physician, Dr. Jim Meehan, Guest Hosts for Del! Guests: Dr. Joseph Mercola, Dr. Miriam GrossmanBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you're.
You are out there in the world, it's time to step out onto the high wire.
Well, so many of us grew up reading those dystopian novels like 1984, Brave New World.
There always seems to be this authoritarian entity.
And I think that when we dreamed about it, you thought, well, there'd be police marching
the streets, maybe house arrest, ankle bracelet.
But maybe it's easier to control us than all of that.
What if they just control your money?
What if they can just shut down your bank accounts?
Is this something that we watched happen during COVID many times?
Remember the Canadian truckers?
Remember those news stories that looked like this?
Bank customers are having their accounts shut down without much warning or explanation.
Banks have already started to freeze the accounts of people involved in the protests.
Banking services are being ripped away from controversial figures.
Nigra Farage, his bank, just out of nowhere, pulling his account.
And this is what's really disturbing is he's now approached seven banks since then.
and none of them will open an account with it.
We received about three complaints just within a couple of weeks' time span.
The banks closed their accounts or held their money for weeks with no explanation.
More than 66,000 was frozen by Citibank last December.
Branch manager and made her show everything from her Social Security card,
passport, driver's license, even her birth certificate, but still wouldn't unfreeze her money.
Check my bank account and saw that it was at zero.
They had given me no notice. They just closed my account.
I went to log on to my online banking and it kept saying account locked.
The young lady said we decided to close your account.
They never would tell me why they said that they chose to discontinue doing business with me.
It was the only reason they had given me.
The Canadian government threatening to freeze protesters' personal bank accounts if they do not comply.
This is about following the month.
following the money.
If your truck is being used in these illegal blockades,
your corporate accounts will be frozen.
The law is really not clear about what happens if a bank freezes or closes your account.
When can they do that?
How long can they hold on to your money?
We don't have clear rules.
This is the cutting edge of the war between the global empire
versus the people.
How do you deal with this massive bank?
I think this massive power that you have no control over.
Well, there's been several headlines that were just as scary as those news pieces were.
They look something like this.
PayPal shuts account of parents group that campaigned to keep schools open during pandemic.
Can't allow that.
You know, all of these things seem scary, but I think they always feel like, well, it's long distance away from me.
And unfortunately, we don't tend to learn until it comes to roost at home or happens in our front yard.
And that's really what's happened for me, just like.
last week, a good friend, and I think one of the greatest voices in health in the world, Dr.
Joseph McCullough put out this tweet.
This is what he said.
Chase Bank has shut down our business bank accounts along with the accounts of my CEO and CFO,
as well as their family members, including spouse and child.
They refuse to provide any reason for doing so.
The oldest account has been active for 18 years.
Pretty shocking.
And we're going to get to the bottom of this right now.
I'm joined now by Dr. Joseph Mercola.
Hi, Joe, how are you doing?
I'm doing great.
So what happened?
I mean, how did this, you know, how did you, I guess the question would be since you're
someone that's been sensitive already, given all the censorship you've been through,
was there writing on the wall for this to be taking place?
No, none at all.
It was actually quite surprising.
It just makes no sense.
And we've been seeking to get an answer from them.
and they continue to provide us with one,
although they are more than willing to discuss this
with the media and tell them that we,
they're doing this because we were money laundering,
which is a farce because if you were money laundering,
that's a federal felony and they throw you in jail
and shut down your accounts.
That give you a month to transfer all the funds out.
Incredible, here's some of the headlines
that are out there that we saw regarding this issue.
Retail health company has Chase accounts suddenly terminated,
owner critical of COVID vaccines,
the FDA. And let's look at what Chase, we got the letter that they sent you. Let's take a look
at this really quick. This is Timerickola Market of Cape Corral. Chase, this is what it goes on to say.
Financial institutions have an obligation to know our customers and monitor transactions
that flow through our customers' accounts. After careful consideration, we decided to close your
accounts because of unexpected activity on this or another Chase account. And how long were you
with this bank, with Chase?
About 18 years.
18 years.
When you look at this, I mean, if they can do this to you, an entrepreneur, a doctor in America,
should we all be taking this seriously for our own sakes?
Absolutely, but neglected to mention a fact that makes this far more egregious act than when PNC took our account.
They just took my personal account and the businesses account.
But this time, for no reason at all, they took the accounts, the personal accounts of my CEO and my CFO, who are employees.
They don't own the business.
They're just employees.
And they took the accounts of their spouse and their children.
And the spouse of my CFO has a debilitating condition and is hospitalized.
and this really seriously impact her ability to take care of him.
This is the tweet you sent out on that.
Let me just go ahead and read this.
Hello, at Chase, support at Chase.
Please reinstate the account of my CFO whose husband has advanced dementia
and multiple health issues requiring 24-7 care in the Philippines.
Her husband's pension and medical expenses rely on this account
and will be exceedingly challenging for her to correct this matter under the current circumstances.
I realize my opinions regarding COVID differ significantly from your CEO.
Jamie Diamond, but there is no reason to punish my employee and their families.
Tell me about this personal situation. Why is this difficult for her right now?
Well, because she was using that Chase account to fund the care that her
husband was receiving. So she had to scuttle around and find alternatives to
compensate for the termination of that account. And it's just not fair at all.
She has nothing to do with this. But nevertheless, without any excuse, they terminated
her account, CEO's accounts, their family members, all with the same letter, identical letter.
So it's interesting because I think, you know, they're trying to try to take the high ground.
This is the morally correct thing to do when it ignores the fact that they have known about
Jeffrey Epstein's illicit sexual trafficking activities since 2008. That's 15 years, 15 years.
and that they continued to have no problems with working Jeffrey Epstein, but me, oh my gosh, forget it.
I'm warning people about the dangers of the vaccine, and that's just unacceptable.
And Jamie Diamond, I think, has had the policy of implementing a COVID vaccination mandate for his employees.
So he's full on board with the COVID-19 narrative.
Yeah, this is out of Forbes.
To go to the office, you have to be vaccinated.
If you aren't going to get faxed, you won't be able to work.
in that office, Diamond told CNBC last week.
We're not going to pay you to not work in the office.
We want people to get vaxed.
I mean, I will say it's incredible that we find ourselves in this moment.
Censorship still taking place if you talk about the COVID vaccine.
Yet we've been proven right, Joe.
The vaccine did not stop transmission, couldn't do a damn thing.
We've even got people like Dr. Paul Offutt, you know,
which we're going to talk about coming up in the show,
basically stating that it clearly has.
has a causal relationship with myocarditis, which you and I have know, we've been reporting.
So how is it we're, how, I mean, is this about a vaccine or do you think it's something more?
Because we won this argument.
We're right.
The world knows it.
Yet we're still being censored.
Why?
Well, it's hard to say.
No, I'm not in their mindset.
But all we can do is speculate.
It does seem somewhat odd of the timing of this.
since we've done nothing different in the last two years to catalyze this type of reaction.
But it would seem that would be the logical conclusion, because certainly now about our ostensibly illicit financial transactions.
You know, it's just that's not the case in any way, shape, or form.
So it's interesting.
Now, with respect to mitigating this, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but about two,
months ago, May 2nd of this year, Florida passed legislation that makes it illegal, illegal to
terminate anyone for political or religious viewpoints. So we are taking this to the Florida State
Attorney General and they will likely be suing Chase. All right, well, that's good to know.
You know, I recently had Catherine Austin Fitz on our show and she was talking about that this was,
the writing was on the wall. She had some thoughts on what we should do. Just take a look at this.
What has been happening now and it's been ongoing for 20 years is we are coming into a significant
change in both the governance and the financial model.
If you look at how the financial system works at the heart of making the financial system
go as risk management, so it's all the people throughout those different bureaucracies
who's responsible.
They have decided to radically centralized control into a much smaller group of people.
And that's one of the reasons why what you're watching is a destruction of the small business economy in a way and a printing of money by the central banks.
So if you look at the largest banks who own and operate the New York Fed and run the government financial statements and financial system and bank accounts, they're responsible.
So if 21 trillion is missing, they affected a great deal of illegal transactions.
they're responsible. Why are we banking with them? Pull your money out.
Who? I'm with Chase. I got some of my accounts in Chase. Is Chase one of them?
Get your money out, you're financing your enemy. You know, the best thing for the small business
economy is a healthy infrastructure of good banks and credit unions in your community. So get your
money out of the big banks and head into them. What you're looking for is what is the institution
that has good governance, good ownership, good management, and has a demonstrated record of
really caring about the people in that community. Their business is banking. Their business is
not trading derivatives on Wall Street. So I know you know all this. You talk a lot about this.
So the question I think some people are asking is why were you still with Chase, given that,
you know, you are one of the most vocal people on protecting yourself in every way you can
and your resources. So why were you still with Chase in this moment? Well, I agree with Catherine.
phenomenal recommendation she had and this would happen to me certainly should
be a warning called everyone they need to consider getting out of these big
banks not only chase all of them like Wells Fargo you know all the big ones the
benefit of the big banks and this is sort of the carrot that leads us to
continue the relationship with them is that especially for businesses like
ours that the limit of the financial insurance in case the bank goes
belly up is 250,000 and
And our payroll far exceeds that.
So there's a quantitative component to it.
But nevertheless, her recommendation is solid.
And I think everyone needs to pay attention to that.
We found another bank that I think Old Glory Bank, which many people had recommended.
So we're in the process of establishing a relationship with them now.
You know, it's interesting, too, with respect to some of the motivations, there was, I don't
know, recall the name of the specific bank, but it went belly up earlier this year.
and it was bailed out by the federal government.
Who do they give that bank, too?
They gave it to Chase.
And you have to wonder if there's any relationship there.
We've seen through the social media and the Twitter files
that the government is absolutely responsible
for implementing and enforcing this censorship.
So you have to wonder if this is extended now into the financial space.
And I think it gives us a strong warning
and a recognition that even though we're in a lull that there's no crisis ostensibly at the
currently the next crisis is coming it's inevitable there's no way around it this was just a test
a test run and it's going to be bad so we've got to get all our ducks in a row and prepare for
that and the last thing we want to do is going to it like a social credit system which this is the
beginning the ear the the earmarks of that and they're they're going full force cbdc's are implemented by
by many banks around there already,
and the majority of the banks will have them
in the next few years, which is the worst implementation of it.
And it makes getting out of a situation like Chase,
a piece of cake compared to when you have a CBDC,
which literally can stop your money instantly at any moment
for whatever violation they perceive that you have made,
even though there's no truth to it.
So there's definitely some warranted action here,
even though it doesn't appear,
that things are really dire.
They are, and it's going to get worse.
It's just inevitable, and I don't, to me, be a Debbie Dumer, or Downer, I guess it's,
but it's coming.
I'm the Duma.
I think it's pretty, there's doom ahead if we don't wake up and start really taking control
the situation.
I totally agree with you, and for some of the same reasons, we have people all over the
country.
It makes it easier.
We're going to have to look at all those things.
But I really look at this with you, Joe, as, you know, you say we have to
plan. It looks like they're planning for something. When you see in this lull that they're
continuing to try and take things away, take away your voice or people like that make it more
difficult for you to do what you're doing. It seems to me they're preparing for something else
down the road and they don't. I think we thwarted a lot of what the COVID pandemic was attempting
to do to this country. If they take a second shot at it, they want to win and I think they're
preparing as should we. Joe, every time these things happen, I know my heart sinks and a lot of
people in this country around the world get worried that that's it. Joe's just going to throw in the
towel. You've done enough. You know, you're going to walk off for the sunset. Well, I pray you don't.
What, you know, does this, does this emboldened you? Or does it make you just think,
God, to hell with it? I've done enough and moving on. Yeah, I'm quite truthfully very delighted that
they've decided to do this. It's because it's, it definitely is a hardship, not so much for me,
but for my staff. And it's a challenge for them unquestionably. But it does give us,
incredible exposure and we're grateful for that for helping get the the
possible increase in the likelihood that we're able to spread the message of
things that they can do and actually one of the things that catalyzes that
can a good thing that came out of this is I realized you know as I mentioned this
the next crisis is coming it's inevitable so and they may take away the internet
that may be the next thing that falls it absolutely is a serious possibility and
what do we do then because that's how we get most of our news and information
So I'm right now in the process of compiling a course of literally 50 to 100 hours of what absolutely essential information that people need to retain their health.
Because health is your greatest wealth.
And there's just no way you can continue to survive in the next crisis unless you're healthy.
You've got to optimize your health.
So I'm putting my nearly 50 years of study and learning and education into in about 50 to 100 hours of solid information.
I'm going to have that and I'm working at it now.
I've got a few modules done, but I'm hoping to have that available soon because it's necessary.
What's the best way to find these materials you're putting out and sort of stay in touch with you,
at least while the internet is up and running?
Yeah, because the purpose of the course is to give it to you so you can download it to your computer,
save it locally on your hard drive.
So the best way is Merkola.com.
It's my website.
We had to delete all our articles two years ago.
So, and the article, the new articles are up there for 48 hours, and they transfer to Substack.
So it's likely this course will reside in Substack to protect it so that it's not damaged or obliterated in any way.
All right. Well, I want to thank you for your courage. I've said it every time you've been on this show.
You're a guiding light, even when I was working at CBS.
So many stories I was able to bring to the nation, the world, because you've always been on the front lines.
and here again, proving once again you're charging into battle ahead of many of us and taking the shots.
It's an honor to know you and a privilege to be following you.
And I just want to thank you for your courage and your continued work out there in the world.
All right. Well, thanks for those kind words down for everything that you're doing.
Your ICAN network has been really instrumental in helping file lawsuits and expose the fraud and help people to understand the truth.
So congratulations on, you know,
taking it to the next level and abandoning mainstream media and creating your own own channel so that, you know,
that it's outside of that platform and can educate the people about the solid truths they need to know.
All right. Well, it's going to take all of this, Joe. I look forward to the next time. Thank you for taking the time today.
Take care. All right, well, another awesome show coming up. I have a lot of questions that are coming up.
We keep covering all these stories about children and transgender parenting and male chest.
feeding and children, you know, laws saying that you have to use, you know, these new pronouns
or it's child abuse. So to get to the bottom of all that, I'm going to speak with a psychiatrist.
She was a star of what is a woman, Merriam Grossman. Dr. Marion Grossman is joining me in just a little
bit. And I'm going to, I have some real questions because she's working right in the middle of this
space. But first, it's time for the Jackson report. All right, Jeffrey Jackson. What do you have for us
this week? Hey, Del. Well, through all our
hard work of reporting, we're finally getting to see a narrative switch. Sadly, it's a narrative
we didn't want to see happen. We tried to warn people. We recall conspiracy theorists, along with people
like Dr. Peter McCullough trying to get this conversation out there. But the headlines are now
starting to actually give some fair warning. This is what they look like. Take a look. Since COVID,
more young people are dying of heart attacks. Here's what we know. And so you see headlines like
that and you say, well, is that just a one-off thing? Absolutely not. We have Paul Offett.
vaccine developer and kind of, you know, an unofficial mouthpiece for the vaccine conversation out there,
the debate. Yeah. This is what he has to say about myocarditis and the COVID vaccine. Take a
listen. Is there a problematic link between the COVID vaccine and heart inflammation?
There certainly is a causal link between vaccination and myocarditis and paracrotitis. No doubt about it.
The, it's unclear why.
I mean, it may be, as was actually noticed in 2020, that SARS-CoV-2 virus, the spike protein,
mimics one of the proteins on heart muscle cells, specifically the heavy chain of actin.
So if that's true, then while you're making immune response to the SARS-Co-2 spike protein,
you're also inadvertently making immune response to your own heart muscle.
I mean, wow, Paul Offett, I mean, just for people that are not in the know, this is as pro a vaccine human as you can get.
He was on the Verbeck Committee for the FDA.
He was actually shouting about some of these things and they started trying to go around him.
I'm curious how they're going to label him now a conspiracy theorist.
He is one of the leading voices in the vaccine program.
And now he's finally admitting it.
And just to point out what was said there, Jeffrey, is what he's saying, essentially,
SARS-CoV-2 seems to mimic, right?
We've talked about the cell mimicry.
This is discussions we've had had for years about the problems of the vaccines.
But what he's saying is the spike protein, this virus seems to mimic a heart cell.
And so what happens is when you create antibodies attacking the virus,
you could create antibodies that attack the heart.
And now they may try to say, well, the natural thing.
does this, but remember, what we have to remember is they bragged that you were getting
hundreds of times the amount of spike protein through the vaccination than you were getting
in a natural infection. It also lasts longer because they messed around with a DNA structure
so it lived longer in the body. So this is extremely problematic. And it's amazing to me that the
CDC is not on CNN right now saying everybody stop, everybody stop. We're taking this off the
childhood schedule. Yeah, and that's the point. Certainly a causal link, he says. We don't know
really the mechanism. It could be making antibodies against your own heart muscle, but hey, we'll figure
that out going forward. But let's look at the Cleveland Clinic website. We talk about myocarditis,
you know, the CDC says it's mild, it's self-limiting. This is what the Cleveland Clinic info page
on it says, quote, for some people, mildcarditis can lead to dilated cardiomyopathy, and they may need
a heart transplant. Almost 20% of sudden deaths in young people have a connection to myocarditis.
rate from myocarditis is 80% one year after having it in 50% five years later.
Wow.
Remember all those headlines we're seeing when they're saying,
no, kids have always fell over in sports and done this.
And we need defibrillators in all schools now just because we want to really take care of kids.
But then there's the CDC.
Well, let's point out something else too right here.
I just, I mean, I don't want to sort of beat on the, get into the weeds here.
But this is why the number one thing we talk about on this show is the need for long-term safety
trials that use a placebo group. Do you see what it said there? That even if the study had lasted for
one year, which it did not, even if we had tracked these people for one year against a placebo group,
80% would have survived that myocarditis. But if you had a trial that went five years,
odds are the people suffering from myocarditis, 50% of them are going to die. So you need trials
that will track the amount of time it would take to see, is this really going to be detrimental
to people getting it. This is one of the major issues that has got to change immediately
in our regulatory agencies. This rushing warp speed of vaccines is the most dangerous thing
that could possibly happen. Have we just put 50% of our kids at risk of dying? I mean, seriously,
folks, it's time to, you know, spread the word. And speaking of regulatory agencies, we have
Mandy Cohen. She comes from North Carolina. She's now the head of the CDC. And she goes in there
trying to rebuild trust. That was her thing. I'm going to rebuild trust in this agency.
It self-admittedly has failed Americans. Wollinsky's out the door. And what's the first headline
that really comes out of here besides I want to build trust? It's this headline. Annual COVID shots.
CDC likely to recommend annual COVID shot similar to flu director says. Now they haven't done it yet,
but they're considering this. And remember, this COVID shot is on the childhood recommended schedule.
ASIP put it on the schedule. Wollinsky did that. Not because of the science was so sound.
not because kids needed this, but because that's the only way they could have given it to vaccine
for children, these uninsured kids. It's the only way they could have gotten it is if we put it on
the schedule. That's why. So people are going to school in the in August in the fall here. Remember,
it's not science that's put these on the schedule, but remember they had a chance to change this
all the way back in 2021 Dell. Here's you reporting on this. We were waiting for the CDC.
It was the first meeting they had. Myocarditis was a thing. Independent journalists were beating
the drum. CDC finally has a meeting on this. And this is what it looked like in our reporting in
June of 2021. Okay. The ASIP meeting, the advisory committee on immunization practices met yesterday to
finally discuss the myocarditis, the heart inflammation that's happening in children all across
this country due to the COVID-19 vaccines. These are reports to VERS, myocarditis, paracotiditis,
reports to VAERS following dose two with an observed or suspected analysis using a seven-day
risk window.
Take a message here is that we're observing this in younger age groups, mainly in these people
in the teens and early 20s and observing it more in males compared to females.
And the difference in the observer
versus the expected appears to be greater,
generally speaking, in males versus females.
So what does that mean?
200 times the rate of myocarditis in children
to a 0.00 was at 5 zeros before we get to a number of risk
of dying from the illness?
That means for the first time in history, as far as I know it,
the CDC is knowingly recommending a product
that is more dangerous by far than the virus threat to our children.
And there was.
Yeah, and there, and there you have, I guess,
and that was the beginning of mal-information,
taking true information, but making people distrust the government
when you use it. So there it is.
Guilty as charged for spreading information, which was true,
dangerous to your children, and yes,
I hope it did undermine your faith in the CDC.
And remember, in that after you know,
of all that stuff going on.
We now know that the Biden administration was aggressively censoring via Twitter, Facebook,
Instagram, any conversation that was outside of these are safe and effective, myocarditis is,
you know, we're still studying this.
It's just, you could get it just as easily with the national COVID.
So if you said anything, tried to warn people about that.
You were getting taken down.
You were getting requests from the Biden administration and from the White House from, I'm
paying a narrative here because we're going to go back to this and understand what this means
moving forward.
So remember, they said a seven day window.
We followed these kids in seven days.
There's the window.
If you have myocarditis, that's where we're studying.
We found this big, we expected this many, but we observed so many times more.
So that was in 2021.
That was a, you know, could have been called a signal.
Did they learn anything?
No, we're just going to keep watching.
So now let's look at the newest study.
This just came out in the end of July, myocarditis and parochotiditis, post-MRNA, COVID-19 vaccine,
insights from pharmacovigilance perspective. And this is the VERS reporting. So they use this,
the VERS reporting system. So that's the caveat. This VERS reporting system under reports, typically it's
broken. But this is what the researchers said. They said our study aimed to comprehensively assess
potential safety signals related to these cardiac events following the primary and booster doses
with a specific focus on younger populations, including children as young as six months of age.
They found this approximately 37.6 percent of the total reported
Myo and pericoditis cases following vaccination were reported by individuals under the age of 25
with the highest percentage of reported cases in the 18 to 24 category, 20.6 percent, and 12 to 17 years old
was 16.8 percent in that category. So, you know, those are all words and it's like sometimes that
gets lost. So let's look at the chart from this study, just to give you an idea. This is what a safety
signal looks like. That's a tsunami right there of kids in the 12 to about 26, 27-year-old male age group.
That's the right-hand column. That's the male age group. And that is from the VERS reporting system.
So this signal is still, again, this is a new study. This signal is still here. We're still seeing
these things. And so this is why people- And remember when we look at that chart, what we're looking at
is just the swelling of the heart. The following chart would be somewhere down the road between, you know,
one in five years, how many of them end up having heart attacks in their future? That's what we do
not see there because it's just a short window we're looking at in these trials. At Mayo Clinic
says 50% in five years. So that's that's Mayo Clinic's numbers, not ours. And so we need to ask
questions. Unfortunately, there are people asking questions. Senator Ram Paul recently had the CEO of
Moderna, the head of Moderna, Stefan Fonselle, the newly minted millionaire, a billionaire,
sorry, billionaire from Moderna. He had him at a hearing, and he was able to ask him this question
on myrocarditis. Take a listen. Is there a higher interest or a higher incidence of
myocarditis among adolescent male 16 to 24 after taking your vaccine?
So thank you for the question, Senator. First, let me say we can deeply about safety and we're
working closely with the CDC and the FDA. Pretty much a yes or no. Is it? Pretty much a yes or no.
Is there a higher incidence of myocarditis among boys 16 to 24 after they take your vaccine?
The data I've shown, actually, I've seen, sorry, from the CDC actually shown that there's
less AmeriCarditis for people who get the vaccine versus who get COVID infection.
You're saying that for ages 16 to 24 among males who take the COVID vaccine, their risk of
myocarditis is less than people who get the disease.
That is my understanding.
That is not true.
And I'd like to enter into the record, six peer-reviewed page.
from the Journal of Vaccine, the Annals of Medicine that say the complete opposite of what you say.
I also spoke with your president just last week and he readily acknowledged in private that, yes, there is an increased risk of myrocarditis.
The fact that you can't say it in public is quite disturbing.
You know the fact that it's just single people like Rand Paul that there's not like 50 other politicians right behind them with their hands in the air saying, fix this now?
that that's also shocking, right? The 1% of our government even cares about this.
So Stefan Banzel, straight face says you actually can get more myocarditis, more incidences,
just from the regular illness, not from the vaccine. Unfortunately, Giamma cardiology study
says something different. And this was in 2022. So you don't have to go, we have to go back a little
ways. He should know this, Benzel, SARS-CoV-2 vaccination and mildocarditis in a Nordic cohort study of
23 million residents. And let's just go right to the charts here because this tells the story.
So this first chart here, you're looking at myo and pericarditis. And on the left side,
you have male 16 to 24 and male 16 to 24 under that. And it has the BNT, that's the Pfizer's
vaccine. So you have two doses of Pfizer's vaccine or below that BNT 162B2, that's Pfizer's vaccine
and Moderna's vaccine. Remember the mixing and matching. So these are just the two doses. Now, you
go all the way across to the highlighted area. And for males 16 to 24, getting two doses of the
Pfizer vaccine, there is basically an 8.3 per 100,000, 7.85 per 100,000. And then if you go down
to mixing and matching the vaccine, oh boy, we got a problem here, 37.94 400,000, 38.51 per 100,000.
So according to this, according to Benzel, when we look at the actual infection of,
the rates of myocarditis and paracoditis in infection, we should see those way higher in those numbers.
So let's look at what this study found.
So we go to the chart and you can see males 12 to 15, SARS-CoV-2 infection, events, zero.
Zero.
Males, 16 to 24, SARS-CoV-2 infection, events of myocarditis, paraciditis, five, less than or equal to five.
that brings to it 1.37 per 100,000.
Not even, I mean, a threat. Literally, like it was 30 times the amount when you, you know,
had both vaccines in you and five to six times, which is, if that's not a signal, folks,
if you're going to continue to keep trusting these people with your lives,
then there's nothing that we can do for you here on the high wire.
Best of luck. I really, you got to start thinking, thinking, please, wake up.
And so what we're doing here is we're fighting to show how hard it is to get a narrative in the face of data, more data, experts in their fields coming forward like Dr. Peter McCullough and others saying like this is a big deal.
We're finally getting this out here.
Another piece during the COVID pandemic, remember, they did not test the vaccine, Pfizer, Moderna.
They did not test this to see if it stops transmission.
We reported that right before the vaccine started going in the arms.
And then it took a full, it took quite some time, took many months for Rochelle Wollinsky to admit this.
Remember in 2021 when she said this?
What about all the fully vaccinated people who get the breakthrough infection?
Can they pass it on?
Could they pass it on to their children?
Could they pass the virus on to older people, especially more vulnerable people with the underlying health conditions?
And that's exactly the point that we made in our guidance.
So yes, they can with the Delta variant.
And that was the reason that we changed our guidance last Tuesday.
Our vaccines are working exceptionally well.
They continue to work well for Delta with regard to severe illness and death.
They prevent it.
But what they can't do anymore is prevent transmission.
Every time I hear that, and I know that the haters out there will say, well, it wasn't their fault.
Delta came along and took away.
That was always the problem, right?
The reason why we've never had a vaccine that can do anything against flu or COVID is that these are highly,
mutable, you know, viruses, they mutate super fast, and it's always been known in a cycle.
They will mutate too fast to be able to have anything that can effectively stop it other than
a natural immune system and a full total destruction of the virus inside the body, which vaccines
cannot achieve. And so I just want to take that argument away right there. That's why the vaccine
was always stupid. It was always stupid because COVID obviously was going to mutate faster than
you would be able to do anything about with the vaccine.
And so the headline there, August 6, 2021, fully vaccinated people who get COVID-19,
breakthrough infection can transmit the virus. Remember, she said, our data is now showing.
Well, the data never really showed it stops transmission because they never tested for it with Pfizer-Moderna.
So what did that lead to? On August 16th, so about 10 days later, 2021, New York City put forward an executive order,
an emergency executive order. Remember, it's known that these vaccines don't stop transmission or infection.
It doesn't stop New York City from doing this emergency order.
And it says in this order, whereas this order is necessary because the propensity of the virus to spread person and person.
It goes on to say the CDC has stated that vaccination is the most effective tool to mitigate the spread of COVID-19 and protect against severe illness.
Well, it doesn't do one of those things.
It was just admitted.
But they said that anyway.
They put this forward.
And New York City was then sued.
Plaintiffs who operate small theater venues brought a lawsuit forward against New York City against what was called their key to New York City.
The key to New York City is this emergency order.
And they said it violated their right to free speech.
And here's they lost.
They ended up losing this court case.
And this is what the judge wrote in the decision said this about New York City's emergency order.
Here, the city clearly had an important, indeed, compelling interest in promoting vaccination.
combat the spread of COVID-19, although it didn't stop it. And this interest would have been achieved
less effectively absent key to New York City, which again is untrue. The program was reasonably
tailored to the challenge of preventing the spread of COVID-19 by incentivizing vaccination.
Again, when some we lose some, we're talking about marocarditis. People are, the headlines are out there.
It's on people's minds. But then some of these court cases, there was a lot of wins that we celebrated,
but some of them ended up like this. And why are we, why are we talking about all of this?
I'll tell you why, because during that whole time, not only do we have an uphill battle against legacy media and trying to get this narrative out against full censorship, we were called domestic terrorists. Remember this, February 7, 2022, summary of terrorism threat to the U.S. Homeland. This is the Department of Homeland Security, and it says the proliferation of false or misleading narratives, which so discord or undermine public trust in U.S. government institutions. For example, there's widespread online proliferation of false or misleading narratives regarding.
unsubstantiated and widespread election fraud and COVID-19. What about COVID-19? Just the word COVID-19?
Well, it was stuff we were talking about, marocarditis, thrombosis. And what did that lead to?
And death rates below 1%, things like that. Yes. And so the agency, the CESA agency,
this is a cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency. We reported on them before and what
happened. They were, they were an agency that was monitoring foreign threat.
to the homeland. This is under Department of Homeland Security. Then they moved to election meddling.
And then they kept going and they moved into the COVID-19 to health space. And then they moved
into just online information. And at that point, you're getting, you started to see this rise of this,
this homeland security digital structure and headlines like this, cyber agency beefing up
disinformation and misinformation team. And this is the head, Jen Easterly, she says this, this,
the article. One could argue we're in the business of critical infrastructure and the most critical
infrastructure is our cognitive infrastructure. So building this resilience to misinformation and
disinformation I think is incredibly important. They own your mind. That's what they're saying.
We think your mind is our job to keep safe, your cognitive infrastructure. So we're going to roll this out.
Well, there's just been recently a U.S. representatives' interim staff report on the weaponization
of government and they look directly at CISA, this agency and all of the techniques they were using
during those years that we're talking about here. And this is some of the highlights. They say this in the
report. CISA moved its censorship operation to the CESA funded nonprofit after CESA and the Biden
administration were sued in federal court. That was Missouri v. Biden case, implicitly admitting
that its censorship activities were unconstitutional. Then it goes on and it shows an update in
this is what it says here. This is a meetings for one of their meetings. And it says subcommittee members
return to the recommendation for CSA to amplify trusted information and discuss designated a point
of contact as a clearinghouse for trusted information. Ms. Spalding and Ms. Hale suggested designating
the Isaacs as a clearinghouse for information to avoid the appearance of government propaganda.
Wow. So they're saying, wow, we know it's probably.
We're doing it. How do we avoid? Just hide it.
Just mask it. Make it look pretty. Put some lipstick on it.
Right. And that, again, that Isaacs is a nonprofit, the information sharing and analysis center.
This is a nonprofit place. They're saying, can we, look, we're getting sued.
Can we just dump all our dirty laundry on this nonprofit so it doesn't come out in the court case?
So that is the bludgeon they use to try to really beat back the truth.
During this pandemic, during this, what we're told was this emergency.
Well, thank God that emergency is over and thank God we can take some breathing room because there's no other emergencies coming down the road.
For scientists, it is unequivocal. Humans are to blame. All this is entirely consistent with predictions and repeated warnings.
The only surprise is the speed of the change. Climate change is here. It is terrifying and it is just the beginning.
The era of global warming has ended the era of global boiling has arrived.
The air is unbreatable.
The heat is unbearable.
And the level of fossil fuel profits and climate in action is unacceptable.
Leaders must live.
It's terrifying, he says.
It's your fault.
It's people's fault.
And it's here.
And it's coming faster than we thought.
No mention of what the sun's doing because that probably doesn't affect our climate.
It's people.
And really, no matter what you think of the climate conversation, that clip right there,
the way fear is being used in that clip should really raise alarm bells for people,
especially after what we've just been through.
And on the flip side, if you look in the past, you can see that there was something coming
and it's here now.
If you watch the news in 1978, you would have seen it and it looked like this.
I think that if we had to go through a real bad winter, just like we just went through, I think we'd have to think about moving someplace else.
Move where? The brutal buffalo winter might become common all over the United States.
Climate experts believe the next ice age is on its way. According to recent evidence, it could come sooner than anyone had expected.
At weather stations in the far north, temperatures have been dropping for 30 years.
Sea coasts long free of summer ice are now blocked year-round.
According to some climatologists, within a lifetime, we might be living in the next ice age.
That is awesome. That is totally awesome.
I mean, it just, same language, just different side of the temperature scale.
The world's coming to end.
The last 30 years has been freezing.
Now the last 50 years has been hot.
Oh, my God.
It may happen in our lifetime.
Probably not that guy's life.
It looks like, you know what, it looks like we clearly overachieved in like stopping the freezing
of the earth.
Now we are gone, you know, gone a whole other direction.
Right.
And so we're being told we're in the middle of record heat waves, global boiling.
But we look at this chart here, and this is from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA.
This is the annual heatwave index in the United States.
These are the periods lasting at least four days with heat waves.
Average temperature is higher than normal, starting back at the late 1800s.
And you can see here, United States, 2020 and beyond, we're not really doing much compared.
I mean, maybe in 1930s you could make argument, but not much going on here.
And so this, this, what I'm talking about in this segment is not going to the, to battle the science.
It reminds me what my dad used to always say, why let a fact get in the way of a good story?
Right.
You know, I mean, let's just, let's just keep the facts off the table.
It's a boiling.
We're boiling here.
And you see it in the news like crazy right now.
Right.
And so, you know, the reason we started out with really talking about the COVID response and to show how it's very similar.
to this response is you have two camps. The one camp is saying fear, fear, fear, it's happening,
it's coming, it's your fault, there's nothing we can do to stop it. And the leaders need to act now.
We need to rush. And remember, what was the excuse during COVID? Well, they had to rush.
It was a once in a century pandemic, so they made some mistakes. So again, we have the rush right
out of the beginning. But we have a lot of people who don't agree with this narrative,
we don't agree with what's being told. And this was a declaration, just like the Great Parrington
declaration early on. This is the world climate declaration. And they say right up front,
there is no climate emergency. That's on the front page. And this has been signed by over
1,500 researchers, scientists. And they have a handful of statements right in there. And it says
this, natural as well as anthropogenic factors cause warming. Warming is far slower than predicted.
Climate policy relies on inadequate models. CO2. Remember that carbon says bad for everybody.
CO2 is plant for the basis of all life on Earth.
Global warming has not increased natural disasters,
and climate policy must respect scientific and economic realities.
And this is another conversation we're having,
is the canceling of experts.
They don't get to speak.
Only certain annoyeded experts get to speak.
And this is what's happening here.
We have a Nobel Prize winner in physics,
who just had his speech canceled.
Here's the headline here, Nobel Prize winner
who doesn't believe climate crisis has speech.
This is Dr. John Klosser, Nobel Prize winner in physics.
Fortunately, he did have a speech scheduled in Korea, and he talked about misinformation and
disinformation in science, and he ended his speech like this.
Take a look.
All right.
Beware.
If you're doing good science, it may lead you into politically incorrect areas.
If you're a good scientist, you will follow them.
I have several, I won't have time to discuss, but they are, I can confidently say there is
no real climate crisis and that climate change does not cause extreme weather events.
Thank you.
I mean, again, I always have to state this, that this is always a difficult topic for
me because I do want clean air, I want clean water, I want a clean food supply for my kids,
I believe we can treat the land around us, our rivers better.
I want to be able to go fishing with my son and actually eat the fish and not worry that
it's contaminated because of some factory or pollution that's out there.
And I think there are many of us in that space and I think some people go, well, you know what,
the climate thing is being overhyped.
At least it's making people make some of the things.
the changes like, you know, recycling or doing things that they should do. But it's not okay.
It's not okay that we are using fear. It's not okay that we're making human beings believe
that there are a disease on this planet, that humans are the problem. It just undermines
everything that's beautiful about humanity. And frankly, when you're dark and destitute and hate
yourself, that's no space to make the world a better place. That will not lead to the beauty that
that true environmentalists, I think, should be dreaming of.
There's a better way and one that actually deals with facts and science.
And the politicians are moving on this.
No matter what people think, the Biden administration has banned light bulbs.
So here's the headline on that.
Incandescent light bulbs are now banned in the U.S.
And that's a regulatory movement.
But they're also going after all portable gas power generators.
So another one, they're putting forth a rule.
they're trying to ban it's the wording is nearly all portable gas power generator so think about what that
would do in an actual crisis like hurricane cratrina or a natural disaster people rely on these things they're
basically life-giving does everyone it's going to switch over to solar power generators and they've able
afford those i don't think so is that this seems like a reckless thing so on the back of the most recent
climate boiling fear Biden has come forward and he has announced new measures
to protect Americans from extreme heat.
But a lot of people are saying he doesn't go far enough.
And this is what the Guardian op-ed actually said.
It says Joe Biden, now the drums are beating for something here.
So everyone really needs to listen.
Joe Biden must declare a climate emergency,
and he must do so now.
Climate emergency.
We just got done with emergency.
So what does that sound like?
And it's not just people trying to get him to do it.
We have members of Congress.
This is a bill in Congress right now.
It's called a Climate Emergencies Act.
H.R. 794, and this is to require the president to declare a national climate emergency and the
National Emergencies Act. So this is also what's going through here. And if you're looking at this
from a public health standpoint, they're trying to merge this. So think about this. Climate emergency
happens. We're under emergency. The Constitution is suspended. It gives them free rein to censor,
again, the conversations. If it's a hot day, climate emergency. If it's a cold day, that's climate
emergency but what about health this is the lancet during the COVID pandemic and they
are not talking about COVID-19 they're saying this mitigating climate change must be a priority
for public health so now diseases can fall into climate change they don't have to worry about
declaring another pandemic for Zika or Ebola or whatever is going to come down the line if if
this climate emergency gets triggered by by Biden or whoever else health just wrapped right in that
vortex, it just sucks down that tunnel, all health situations. Remember, last week we told you about
the permanent, those are the words in the White House press release, the permanent pandemic preparedness
and response office. This is in the executive branch of the White House, and they are going to
coordinate the administration's domestic response to public health threats that have pandemic
potential or may cause significant disruption and strengthen domestic pandemic preparedness.
And this dovetails exactly. We reported also.
on the UN treaty. This is in conversations now. They have their first draft out. It's called the
zero draft. And this is the political declaration they're calling it of the UN General Assembly.
And so in there, they actually have a heading called global governance. That used to be a conspiracy
theory of that term. Now it's in this draft. Strengthen international collaboration and
coordination for pandemic prevention, preparedness and response at the highest political level
to accelerate efforts to ensure international, national, regional, and local readiness for
future pandemics and health emergencies. So if you think the climate is not going to be a conversation
in this treaty, which from I understand is going to be codified in September. This is going to be
something they're trying to get done by September. The White House has its office. So we really have to
watch this climate prep, the fear, the conversations in these headlines about this push for a climate
emergency because no doubt that that will be looped into these offices in these treaties.
We keep having this debate, folks.
I mean, just so you know, we sit with our team, and there's been some of our international
groups saying they're going to attempt to do the same tracking systems and declare that
the next pandemic is really the climate.
And I've been on the side of our team saying they're never going to get away with that.
There's just no way people are going to put up with something they can't see, telling us that
the ocean is going to be six inches deeper in 20 years is not going to allow you to take my car away.
But I'll tell you, Jeffrey, I think I'm starting to lose this argument.
I really, it's getting scary when you see this language.
I mean, we're reaching a point where if you talk about, like, say, you know,
I'd like to see a little better science on this climate thing.
How are you proving it's mankind doing it?
And does it really make a difference if we're one degree Celsius, warmer 50 years from now or not?
I need to understand that.
Is that domestic terrorism?
Is that it?
Are they coming through the door any second now?
I mean, this is where this insanity is going.
Right.
And it's not even, so to your point, it may not be, they may not get the pop value,
the shock value like they did for COVID and have to do something right away.
But they are doing legislative moves and policy that is making it harder to sell light bulbs.
So they're kind of picking away.
They're allowed to sell gasoline vehicles.
So one by one, they pick away the current infrastructure that we know we're used to that is sustaining us.
And as we reported before, what's being replaced is questionable.
What is being moved into that position.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely outrageous.
Well, it's scary times, man, and this is what we've all got to wake up to.
This is why we're here, Jeffrey.
I really appreciate all your reporting on this.
It's so important.
Really, really great.
Absolutely.
All right, we'll be tracking this.
All right, good.
I want to talk to you for a second.
I want to talk to you about what it takes to do the high wire.
and the moment we now find ourselves in.
Folks, this isn't easy.
It is not easy to run a news show
where by telling you the truth
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I get reported by CNN and MSNBC and attacked
on a constant basis.
I'm cool with all that.
And I know why they're doing it
because we're one of the most successful, you know, institutions,
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and your space of health.
We have the most effective legal team the world has ever seen when it comes to your rights
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Of course, I'm talking about Aaron Siri.
But there is so much we want to do right now.
I'm going to have a little moment, a little heart to heart with you here.
We can't do everything we want to do.
We can't do it all because we actually do.
just don't have the funding. I mean, look what we've achieved. Look what we've achieved here.
We just got Mississippi back. Their religious exemption gone since 1979. No one thought that
was possible. We're in other states pushing the same thing. But we're watching cases get lost in
New York City and we're saying, man, we should have been there. But we can't because we're tight.
We're tight because not enough of you think it's important enough to support groups like ours.
So I'm going to lay it on you. You know how and what percentage of the viewers out there? We're getting
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We love that you're spreading the word. But, you know, just in the middle of COVID, I reported to
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actually make all this happen.
Every time we win a lawsuit,
one percent of you are the ones
responsible for making that happen.
And I want to ask you, if you're worried about
this world and you're one of those 99%
that are sitting on your barca lounges right now,
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Seriously?
Do you really just want to be a Debbie Downer?
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I always knew it wasn't going to be fixed.
I knew that Dell was just out there.
I saw working really hard flying all over the country,
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but in the end, I knew it was just never going to work.
Is that who you are?
Is that who I'm talking to out there?
Honestly, I want to know.
Write in, explain to me why it is you don't think it's necessary
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All of that would make a difference,
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Stop like blaming the 1% for the world.
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All right, I think I've hit that hard enough.
Thank you for everybody that makes this possible.
eternally grateful. Okay. So here's a topic that is really starting to be on all of our minds.
We're seeing lots of videos out there and things that are just hard to wrap your head around.
And this is something that this is a precarious space that we're going into. I don't mean to be
judgmental at all. What I will say is I am confused by this.
Trans women can breast fade so they can experience one of the most natural bonding parts of motherhood.
I've always wanted to be able to lactate.
And today, my doctor, after my EKG results, said that he's feeling confident enough to start me on this medication regularly.
I'm going to be a mother that's in the works, in the process.
And part of that process is that I am working to induce lactation to be able to breastfeed our youngest child.
Transwomen who do breastfeed typically take hormones to help their bodies produce milk.
These transgender moms do something called breast and nipple stimulation.
It's been 40 minutes since I've been pumping.
Yeah.
This is what I'm able to get up to now.
Not much.
I put it in the point.
It's not bad for only a week of doing that.
I've actually already successfully induced lactation.
Like, I can actually make milk now.
make milk now, which has been a very interesting and very cool experience.
The baby has been able to latch, but I've not been able to produce any milk.
It's okay.
Because we're going to supplement the feeding with formula so that my baby is still getting the nutrients that they need.
It's like very biologically affirming too.
It's just something that's like gate-kept from trans women, like so, so difficult.
Transwomen can be mothers.
We are mothers.
I'll say every time we get into this topic,
we probably get more comments from you and emails from those of you out there
that think this is a very dangerous subject to cover
and that we don't want to sort of speak about anyone in a way that's not kind.
But if you've been watching the Highwire,
you know that what we're doing is following our questions.
We have questions about this.
We're trying to understand this world we're living in
and why it's changing so fast.
Is it moving in the right direction,
especially when the work that we do with ICANN,
our non-profit informed consent action network,
is around protecting children.
I think this issue starts really getting into some very precarious gray areas.
Well, one person that is not afraid to dive straight into those gray areas
and bring some reality with a clinical understanding,
a medical understanding, is Dr. Miriam Grossman.
And if you do not know who she is, then you probably missed all of these moments out there in the news.
Dr. Miriam Grossman.
Dr. Merriam Grossman.
Dr. Grossman.
The child psychiatrist, an author of, You're Teaching My Child What?
Dr. Grossman.
You're a psychiatrist, medical doctor, and you've done a lot of work in child psychiatry.
The rates of kids who suddenly proclaim that they are identifying as the opposite sex or some other genies,
gender are actually up about 5,000 percent.
And when I went to medical school 40 years ago,
when the cases were so rare that none of us ever expected
to see even one person in our entire lifetime.
Kids are being taught by some teachers that men can have babies
and that boys menstruate.
And this is dangerous.
This is a dangerous ideology because it's not true.
A lot of them were hurting themselves.
A lot of them were suicidal before they even discovered gender.
That is never part of the discussion.
And they say, what would you rather have a living daughter or a dead son?
If this is what the professionals are saying, it's terrible emotional black men.
This is grooming, right? Technical textbook grooming.
Grooming is the emotional and psychological manipulation of a vulnerable
person, often a child, in order to at some later time exploit that person, especially teacher
activists who are manipulating psychologically and emotionally their students and recruiting them
into radical sexual and gender ideologies.
We are giving them medical treatments that cause cardiovascular
vascular problems, blood clots, heart attacks, cancers, kidney failure.
We're putting girls into menopause.
There's a celebration of denying reality.
There's a celebration of being confused.
Who wants the government stepping in between doctors and parents and children?
Of course, we ideally don't want that.
But when there's something that is so wrong that's going on,
on, then I think we have to.
It is my honor and pleasure to be joined now by Dr. Miriam Grossman.
Hi, Dr. Roseman.
Thank you for taking the time today.
Well, hello.
That was great.
Can I have that series of clips?
Absolutely.
We'll send it right over when we're done talking.
That's great.
So just very quickly for people that may not have been tracking your work,
and you have a book that we would love to be celebrating here.
You can't even find a copy within 100 miles.
It is that popular.
in Transnation, a child psychiatrist's guide out of the madness. What is your background that sort of
has put you into the center of this very intriguing, maybe disturbing and confusing discussion?
Well, my background is I'm a medical doctor and I specialize in child and adolescent psychiatry
And around, I don't know, maybe 15 years ago, I became interested in learning more about sexuality education
because I was on the staff of a counseling center at UCLA for UCLA students.
And so many of those kids that were coming in for counseling had a sexually transmitted infection
or they had had multiple abortions and they were going in for frequent HIV-tube.
testing. So I became alarmed and wanted to find out what exactly are these kids learning
about staying healthy, staying sexually healthy. And I delved into sex education and what kids are
being told, including younger kids in elementary school and even maybe in kindergarten. And I
I discovered that sex education really is not about maintaining health.
It's not about remaining free of disease.
What it is is it's about sexual freedom.
And it's about promoting a lifestyle of sexuality from cradle to grave.
And it's about eliminating any Judeo-Christian
values from our society. So in the midst of that research that I was doing, and then that also
culminated in a book called, You're Teaching My Child What? I discovered at that time, and this was in the late
2000s, by the way, I discovered that kids were being told that humanity is not separated into male or
female. Kids are being told that is a myth. That's a falsehood. There's actually many, many,
a spectrum of sexes. And male and female is just two of many choices. And that a person
determines their own identity unrelated to their biology. And they can decide what their identity is,
regardless of their biology.
So it was essentially teaching kids a belief system.
That's what I call it.
It's a belief system because it is not based in medicine and is not based in science.
They're teaching kids to believe that there's such a thing as being born in the wrong body.
And that however you feel about your identity as male or female, that takes precedence
over what your biology says you actually.
actually are. And that once you determine or decide on your identity, even though that identity
may be fluid and change from day to day, everyone else is obligated to affirm and indeed to celebrate
your identity as separate from your biology. Now, I discovered this was being taught to kids.
know, more than 15, even 20 years ago. And I know that's going to come as a surprise to your audience
because most people think this is new, but it is not new. What's new is that we have this tsunami
of teenagers and some of them under teenage kids and young adults who are suddenly declaring this
new identity. And it's been, you know, since about 2015 or so, there's been an astronomical
increase in the number of kids that are making this claim. And there's also been an astronomical
increase in the number of doctors and clinics that exist in order to provide the medical
treatments. So let's see, you asked about my history.
I became extremely alarmed about this way back when I discovered it because, you see, it's a very destabilizing idea to tell a child that something that's at the core of their humanity, which is their identity as male or female, that that could be wrong.
It's an extremely destabilizing idea to lead them to believe that being a boy or girl is just randomly,
assigned by a doctor or midwife who happens to be in the delivery room when they're born.
And that that could be a mistake.
Now, of course, there are extremely rare individuals, extremely rare.
We're talking 0.02% of the population that do have some sort of chromosomal or other abnormality.
And they may have genitalia that appear, you know, it's not clear whether they are male or female.
But even those individuals that we call intersex individuals, they still, each one of them, their reproductive systems are organized around the production of either sperm or eggs.
They may be infertile. They may be unable to produce sperm or eggs. But that does not mean they are not males or females.
So this whole thing, this whole belief system that has, you know, engulfed us, it's just, you know, you can't get away from it.
And our kids certainly can't get away from it.
It's all based on these, on, on, there's no foundation to this belief system.
There's no scientific foundation.
Let me ask you some questions because I don't have a, a, a, uh,
a doctorate or a science background, certainly not in this space.
But when I look at it, and I'm just really inquisitive here,
and I'm sure I'm going to get into trouble for making comparisons.
But growing up when I was in school, one of the big issues was like anorexia and bulimia.
Right.
And we were sort of told, you know, when I was growing up as a teenager,
that some people, because they lack control in their environment,
use, they, you know, use control of their body,
whether it's starving themselves or things to try and manage that.
And it was considered to be, you know, a psychological issue.
It seems to me, and correct me, this seems similar in that it's a control of your body.
I want to cut parts of my body off.
I want to change my body.
Am I just way off base in making that comparison?
Is there any sort of similar psychological connection?
that would refer to science in what we used to understand about these things?
Well, in comparing the transgender identities, comparing them to eating disorders is actually not too
way off. And I'll explain why it's not too way off. First of all, we know that eating disorders
have a social contagion element to them. A social contagion is when feelings or beliefs or beliefs,
or behaviors spread among groups of friends. And those groups of friends can be at school,
you know, in the neighborhood, they can be online as well. And we are seeing clearly seeing
evidence of this with the transgender phenomenon. So we know that we see like entire friend
groups, groups of girls arriving at a gender clinic together, and
asking to be placed on hormones together.
Their feelings and their beliefs are influencing one another.
And that is called a social contagion.
And we know that that was the case also with eating disorders.
It can be the case with sometimes with suicide.
So that is a legitimate point that you made.
The other point that you bring up is simply,
you know, eating disorders are an emotional,
emotional. They have an emotional basis to them. The people that end up severely restricting their
diets and, you know, end up anorectic or bulimic and they're harming themselves in doing so,
and they have a just distorted perception of themselves. They look in the mirror and they think
that they're obese and they weigh like, you know, 82 pounds and they're five feet eight inches.
So that's a distortion of their self-perception.
Now, these kids who, and my practice consists of helping these kids in their families, by the way.
And I'll just mention again, the name of my book is Lost in Transnation, a child psychiatrist guide out of the madness.
So these kids, you see, they have a lot of underlying psychological issues.
Many of them are on the autism spectrum.
They have anxiety, depression.
Many of them have been through trauma.
They might have family issues, ADHD, any number of conditions.
These are kids that are not altogether happy with themselves and their lives.
And transgenderism is presented to them as something that could be the solution to all of their problems.
And they go online, they go on to YouTube, and they listen to these influencers and other individuals that are grooming them.
And they are led to believe that if they feel uncomfortable with how they look and they don't like getting their period or they're embarrassed about the changes of puberty and how other people are looking at them, well, then they might just be the,
opposite sex. This suggestion is made to them and it's made to them by people that they look up to.
Older people, more experienced people. And these kids are vulnerable and they'll do anything to feel
better. They want to fit in at school. They don't have many of them a, you know, a peer group that is
accepting of them. And when they declare themselves as transgender, they will automatically,
their social status is automatically going to be elevated and they're going to be celebrated.
And they're going to get lots and lots of attention from the adults. So you see, this is a complicated
thing. But the point that I'm trying to make is that this is an emotional disorder. And my profession,
the medical profession, has really lost its way here because they are treating an emotional disorder.
emotional disorder by changing the body.
So by giving blockers and cross sex hormones and surgeries and changing the appearance
of the body, they're promising kids that they're going to feel emotionally better.
And we don't know that that's the case at all.
To the contrary, we have evidence that they might feel worse on the other end of this.
plus have to deal with being, I would say, disfigured and sometimes sterilized.
We had a D-transitioner named Luca on our show a few months back, a really tragic story.
She had listened, a psychiatrist, I guess, that really promoted this idea that she was in the wrong body.
And so it made all of these changes.
and then has to detransition.
It seems to me this argument that's happening
in this country right now,
I want to believe we all care about children.
And we want children to feel accepted
and okay for who they are.
But this idea that changing your body,
I saw a beam that said,
something had a picture of a mom talking to a daughter
saying, you're beautiful just as you are,
unless you're transgender.
In that case, we need to cut a lot of body parts off
and get to work here.
And it just seems like such a mixed message going on with children.
But the fact that we're discussing, you know, transitioning to children, like making them think about to.
And let me ask you this.
When you looked at the languaging of this education, are they talking about sex?
Because it seems to me just a few years ago, you weren't, if your child started talking about sex in first grade, second grade,
a counselor was supposed to report that something must be going on at home, that this child is thinking about sexuality at such a young age instead of just being a child.
And I feel like that's been thrown out the door. Now we are asking children to decide what sexual partners they plan on having, you know, 15 years down the road and 10 years before they've hit puberty.
Well, of course, our kids are being sexualized to an appalling degree at very young ages.
Now, you said a minute ago that you think that everyone has the, you know, well-being of children,
gives priority to the well-being of children.
And I hope that you're right, Del, but I think that some people care more about the well-being of their banking.
accounts. And I'm referring to surgeons who are performing bilateral mastectomies on girls as young as 12 or 13,
who clearly have emotional problems and who clearly cannot give informed consent regarding such a
procedure. In my book, I speak extensively.
about these medical and surgical interventions
that are being done all over our country
on these young kids.
I describe the procedures in detail.
I talk about my patients who have gone through these procedures
and how it shattered their lives.
I provide evidence of these surgeons talking about how,
for example,
One of them said that he has no lower age limit, that anyone at any age could come and get a consultation with him about the removal of breasts.
There's another surgeon that talks about looking forward to a day when gender will be no big deal and all these medical interventions that, again, disfigure, sterilize, and leave kids with a laundry list.
of serious medical problems, cardiovascular problems, issues with urinating, sexual dysfunction,
inability to orgasm, the list is endless. And there are doctors out there, these are my colleagues.
I take no pleasure in having to talk about this. But we all took an oath to do no harm.
I want these doctors to, I want them to be placed on the hot seat.
I want them to be subpoenaed and brought into Congress and asked questions about what they're doing to these kids.
Yeah, it's really, it's very difficult to understand it.
And when we, and we're being told that somehow we are.
bigots or, you know, all sorts of names for even trying to have this conversation right now.
I'm sure this people are going to be upset that are in my audience that I'm,
and I'm trying to be as objective as I possibly can be in this space.
But at the beginning of this, we're talking about nature.
And in the video that we showed where a man is trying to get a baby to latch onto his chest
and they're taking drugs like Dom Peridone to try and create lactation.
And when we talk about the children, it says on that drug on the label,
don't take this while breastfeeding,
it can lead to heart issues and brain development issues
in utero child and baby could lead to problems.
And yet the CDC is now promoting this drug use for transgender parents.
and I look at these videos, and I'm trying to not be judgmental, but I ask myself,
are these mentally stable people, you know, a man with a man's body, trying to make it do
what a woman's body does, excreting some sort of what looks like toxic chemicals now out of their
chest being brought on by a drug that's an off-label usage? And where is the concern for the baby
that is being put through this.
Where is, you know, where is it okay that we're taking babies
and making them latch onto men's chests?
And where is it okay to have probably toxic excretion
so that this person feels good about their lives?
Have we just forgotten about the rights of the child?
Del, what we're looking at here is mentally ill men,
who for their narcissistic, pathological,
reasons wish to believe that they are mothers who are nursing their babies.
Nothing could be further than the truth.
All you have to do is find a nursing mother or any woman that ever nursed, and she will
describe to you how she was careful about every molecule of food that she ate and every drop
of liquid that she consumed, and if she felt that that may be harmful to her infant in some way,
she would avoid all those things. That's what a mother does. We're not looking at mothers here.
This is offensive to me. And mentioning, you're talking about the kids. Of course, this is abusive.
This is just outrageous that the CDC would actually come.
out and put their stamp of approval on such a thing when they know that, you know, they know that
what is in that so-called milk? It's not milk. It's a nipple discharge. It is not milk. It's a nipple
discharge and God knows what's in it. When I think about this, one of the questions I have is that
we're going to get into some dangerous territory here because we can't avoid it, but they are.
I'm going to ask the questions as I see it.
There seem to be a shift for me in this idea that you're born this way.
I do believe some people are born, you know, with certain different sexual perspectives,
but I also believe that it can be socialized.
As you've said, I do think you can shift, especially in a young child,
they're thinking about themselves.
And I think that that's really at the core of what we're going to be arguing about right now
because they want to tell us you're just born this way.
Well, if you're just born this way, then we have to accept furries and we have to accept pedophiles.
We have to accept all of these different things.
Where does the line get drawn for a society?
Del, I'm going to have to correct you here.
Forgive me here.
Okay, please, please.
You're speaking about sexual orientation, which means,
to whom is a person attracted. Are they attracted to men, women, both? That's a romantic sexual
attraction, who you want to be with. We are speaking right now about having a transgender identity.
Gender identity has to do with if you experience yourself as male or female, not related to sexual
orientation. So it has nothing to do with who they plan on being attracted to or who they think
they're attracted to. So explain that to me because I think that's where many of us are confused.
This is just about your own body and not about your attraction space. That's right. It's about how you
experience yourself, who you are, whether you experience yourself. Now, of course, I'm not
saying that I have to be careful over here because gender identity itself is a very difficult
term for me. And I explain in the book why it lacks clarity and it's it's something.
I mean, that's a whole other thing. Okay. The language here is a very unclear language and it's
Orwellian language as well. So without getting too deep in going into that direction, I just
want to explain to you in your audience again. So being gay, lesbian, or bisexual refers to who
a person is romantically attracted to. Being transgender or one's gender identity refers to
one's inner experience of being male or female. Now, it's true. It is, you know, it does
It gets a little bit complicated over here, and I don't know if we want to, you know,
we could spend hours talking about this.
I'm sure we could.
I think that there's more, there's many, there's many more important messages of my book
that I would like to get across.
Okay.
Parents need to be prepared, no matter what your background, there's no family that's immune.
This is not only happening in blue states.
This is happening all over the country in every sort of family.
You have to be prepared before.
beforehand for one of your kids to perhaps come to you one day and say that they're the opposite
sex and ask to be called a different name and different pronouns and to be taken to a gender
clinic. You have to know how are you going to handle that? And I don't care what age your kids are,
the younger, the better. I mean, perhaps this is something that may not happen for many years.
I want you to be prepared. I have talked to hundreds.
of parents who have gone through this calamity in their families.
And they all tell me that they were blindsided.
They didn't expect it.
They have kids who were never uncomfortable with being boys and girls
and sometimes the kids were actually very stereotypical boys and girls.
So they never expected it.
They weren't prepared.
They didn't know what to say.
They didn't understand.
And they go to a gender therapist, a gender, a gender, a gender,
affirming therapist, which is what 99% of therapists are, and they're told by that therapist to put their child into the driver's seat.
The therapist automatically rubber stamps the new identity, the new name, the new pronouns, tells the parents that they have to do the same, that they have to tell the school that the kid should be called socially transitioned at school, begin using the
bathrooms of the opposite sex and so on. So I want parents to be prepared because they, I'm advising
them not to go with it. I'm advising them that we do not have any research, long-term research,
that indicates that these kids are going to benefit from so-called affirming them. And by the way,
when you affirm a child in their new identity, it means that you are denying their biological reality.
And I'm arguing in the book that that's not doing them any favor because you cannot deny your biological reality without paying a price.
Right.
And sometimes that price is going to be very, very high.
So parents need to be educated and need to have the tools so that they're ahead of their.
game here and I provide them with information about how to put the school on alert again years
before any of this might happen yeah your kid might be going into kindergarten I want parents to put
their schools on alert not only public schools you may go to a catholic school I want that school
put on alert as well wow uh I I explained to parents how they have to be in control of their
child's internet use. I can't emphasize that enough. Kids are, you know, kids are being influenced
to a degree that you cannot imagine on the internet, on social media, on YouTube. That's where they're
learning this stuff. That's where they're meeting people who are influencing them. And by the time they
come to you and they say, mom, dad, I'm not your son, I'm your daughter. They may have already spent a year online
being influenced by these people without you knowing about it.
And by then you're in trouble because it's very hard to break through to them.
How has it gotten to this point?
Where is the protections?
Where, I mean, again, you know, this is, it appears there are websites that are grooming children.
You have teachers now grooming.
God knows what are those private conversations happening with our kids.
And we have a government now and a group of regular teachers.
agencies that are promoting what it seems 10 years ago would have been considered a jailable
illegal offense on children. How did we get to this point? Was there some heroic, iconic figure
in this world that came forward and just changed policies as we know it? Or is it a group thing?
I mean, how did this happen? I mean, I think this is where we're at. And your book is, you know,
guide out of the madness, many parents right now are like, what has happened to my world? And why didn't I
see some gradual, you know, progression here? No, no, no. It was all, it was all out in the open.
What do you mean? This was all very clear to many of us. And the problem is that people
closed their eyes to it because they considered it an extreme right, you know, religious right
of preoccupation and that it was homophobic and transphobic and all the names that we got called
for pointing this out, for pointing out that our kids are being sexualized. What do you mean?
This has been on the agenda, you know, it depends where you get your news from, but this has been
very clear to many of us for a long, long time that we need to fight.
this war on children. It's a war on the innocence of children. So I get upset when people say that
this suddenly happened. Didn't suddenly happen. We've just been re-electing the same people who don't
do anything about it, who don't care to do anything about it, and they let it get worse and worse and
worse. So that's why we are where we are. What is our way out now? I mean, is it, do you think that
pulling your kids out of the education system, homeschooling if you can? I mean, what are, you know,
It just, it feels like the school system has your kid for longer than you do.
And then, you know, as you add YouTube and things like that on it, parents aren't even
involved in the process of raising their kids.
Do you think we start moving in more extreme measures, you know, educating our children
ourselves?
Well, there's a lot that parents can do.
And I wrote this book for parents, not for professionals, for regular moms and dads.
there is so much that you can do from an early age.
I'll give you one example.
From an early age, start telling your child that they are a boy or a girl,
and they have always been a boy or a girl and will always be a boy or a girl from the moment of conception.
I'm not saying give them the sex talk, birds and the bees.
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm saying you tell your little child that from the moment that you existed that you were
created on this birth, on this earth, you were a boy or a girl. And that is permanent. Now,
there are people that might feel that they're not boys or girls, but everyone is a combination of
male and female. Everyone is an interesting mosaic. But we do not change our bodies. We do not damage
our bodies because we may feel that we have some elements that are more masculine or feminine.
And furthermore, I want parents to tell their kids and to believe it themselves that there are many different ways of being boys and being men.
And there are different ways of being girls and women.
There isn't just one way.
And not every boy loves football and climbing trees and building things.
There are boys that like fashion and dancing and there are girls that like more masculine things.
These stereotypes, you know, we, there was a time when we were trying to throw those stereotypes out the window when I was younger.
We tried to smash those stereotypes.
And now gender ideology is back in force, telling kids, telling boys, oh, well, if you think you're more feminine and you fit in better with the girls and you don't like rough and tumble play and you're more interested in what the girls are talking about, well, maybe you are a girl.
girl. What a terrible, terrible thing to tell a child. But parents can fight, they have to reach
their child first. That's what they need to do. So that when the kid begins to hear, for example,
when the kid hears sex assigned at birth, boy, do I hate that phrase. Yeah. Nothing's assigned.
Nothing's assigned in the delivery room. In the delivery room, something, it's recognized.
It is not assigned.
When you use the word assigned, you lead kids to think that it's random and that it could
make a, it could have been a mistake and that they could be mistakes.
You know, when I look at this, you know, I think about, and not to wax religious, but it feels like we are,
this is the ultimate end of an atheistic society, which is there's no longer a creator, there's nothing
that creates us. There's nothing that has a greater power than us. But it's not that there's
no God. It's really doctors acting like God. Doctors now want that ultimate decision, which is
you and I, let's have a conference and we're going to decide what sex you are. We're going to
decide what life you have. And I feel like these doctors involved in this really see themselves
as the deciding factor with this child versus that there's some larger force at work. Is this,
Is there a spiritual issue going on here or a religious one or however you look at it?
You did say Judeo-Christian society is really in trouble.
It does feel that some of this is an attack not just on our children and our sexuality,
but on our spiritual perspective of ourselves.
Well, you know, again, my book is focused on helping parents,
and I'm focused on families and on the kids.
However, there are, there are, you know, very competent, brilliant people out there that are
looking at all this from a different vantage point from sort of like a, from 30,000 feet
from that perspective in terms of where this is coming from also the money trail.
I would mention someone by the name of Jennifer Belak.
She has a blog called 11th Hour,
and she has done brilliant research on this issue.
Just to briefly summarize, she explains that there's a movement called the Transhumanism Movement,
which is behind and funding much of the transgender ideology,
the promotion of the ideology, the medical centers, the clinics.
So these are individuals, some of whom are transgender themselves and very wealthy.
And they have this idea that we're going to transcend what it means to be human.
It's going to be a redesigning of humanity 2.0.
And a part of that redesigning is disembodiment so that it's a separation out of the body.
And transgenderism certainly promotes disembodiment.
We're teaching kids that their bodies don't matter.
They can be in control of or they can make decisions to alter their bodies permanently.
And they're being led to believe they're not going to pay a big price for that and that it's no big deal.
And they do believe it's no big deal, by the way.
I'm going to ask you just one more just curiosity question.
I have a million we'll have to do this again sometime
because it's all really very fascinating.
I'm sure you've seen a lot.
But I ask this question,
if children are being challenged with you
may be in the wrong body
and what are you thinking about yourself
at a very young age,
I wonder if will we have gay men and gay women
in the future?
Because it seems like now, if they express
that there's an attraction there or something like that,
because I know you said it wasn't about attraction,
but won't they then be sort of guy
to change their body parts and are we going to see the end of gay as we know it and everything will be
trans changing their bodies? Is that possible?
Okay, well, I, you know, I'm going to go back and maybe make an addendum to something that I said before.
And that is that, yes, there is an element here of
homosexuality or same-sex attraction that kids and teenagers may experience.
experience and because they aren't comfortable with that or they are worried about how people may respond, they may think, oh, well, this is easier. I'll just instead of being a girl attracted to girls, I'll just transition to a boy and then I'll be a heterosexual attracted to girls. And that's more acceptable. So that element. The other element is, yes, definitely, you know, there's,
There's many voices in the gay and lesbian communities that are objecting to the medical interventions with these kids because they're saying exactly what you just said.
This is just doing a way with people that are going to end up gay and lesbian.
And they're saying if I was younger, if I was a teenager now, I definitely, you know, my pediatrician or my guidance counselor or whoever,
would be saying to me, oh, you're really not a boy or girl.
You're actually the opposite sex and you should look into this.
And so, yeah, they for sure, they are arguing and they are passionate about these arguments,
as you can imagine, as they should be that an entire population of gay and lesbian kids
are now being, are being, are going through these medical.
procedures that you see you see i didn't have a chance really to explain that these medical interventions
are are actually interfering with their sexual development so that many of these kids if they
if they're put on blockers and cross-sex hormones at an early age they are never going to develop
normal genitalia and normal sexual response right so it is it's creating a generation of of
of asexual,
um, infer, sterilized young people.
I think that's horrific too. And I agree it's it's essentially
castrating our children and I know that there's some people in that transhumanism space that
think that that's on purpose it is Orwellian and you know we think of brave new world and
sexuality is the was always the conversation made you know more and more a society that's
asexual can be controlled in many ways.
I know we've taken a lot of time with you.
It's all very interesting.
I think what's important, what we try to promote
on the high wire is an ability to have the conversations,
that a lot of the problems in this world
is we've stopped talking about these difficult issues
because they can create conflict,
that we don't want conflict,
and so the world is just running away from us.
Is there a way in which you can recommend that we
language this conversation so that we cannot trigger people but can have a conversation.
Is there a way? Do you think we should be talking about this with our loved ones at dinner
tables and Thanksgiving tables? Because it certainly is affecting our children. It's affecting
our society. But I think so many people sit quietly going, oh, you know, a pomp, palm,
I'm cheering you on, Dr. Grossman, saying, thank God somebody's saying it, but you must feel really
lonely out there because not a lot of people are. How do we inspire people to have this conversation?
How should that conversation sound? Well, if people are not inspired to say something about these
atrocities, I really can't help them. There are atrocities going on. I'm getting emails from
from mothers saying my 18-year-old is going to have her breasts removed next week.
I have a patient who's been castrated and his penis turned into a,
what he was promised would be a vagina.
And now he has no penis or vagina.
So, you know, if people are not motivated to say something about this and to fight it,
and they're worried about triggering other people by bringing it up and fighting it.
I mean, I provide in my book all the ammunition that you need.
I wrote this book as a medical doctor.
You know, this is medicine and psychiatry that I use.
And there's about 40 pages of references in the back.
So, you know, this is a guide for parents.
But it's also, you know, I also provide conversations in the back.
there that parents can have with other people therapists, doctors, and relatives about this issue
in which it's just laid out. The arguments are laid out. We didn't get a chance to talk about the
myth of suicide that we're told about. I'm trying to just focus on answering your question.
People better start speaking out. They better start speaking out. And if you're worried about
being triggered, you know, triggering other people.
At this point, I just don't know
what to tell you. I mean, you're going to be
worried, you know, during
World War II when people were being
placed in ovens, you're afraid to
trigger people by bringing it up?
Is that where we're at right now?
Dr. Grossman, I love your passion.
You fit in very well here at the High Wire.
This audience is used to me being very passionate.
I think this is an incredibly important
issue.
And there's only so sensitive, you
can be about it when our children are hanging in the balance.
So I want to thank you for writing the book.
I want to thank you for taking the time.
I want to thank you for your courage to step up
and really speak the truth out there.
It's so needed.
And I think that we're just,
we're becoming such a nation of scared people,
afraid of our own voices and our own words.
And we're losing our ability to lead the world.
And I think that we do have to have a reckoning.
We have to be brave and say what we think.
Well, thanks so much for having me.
And the book, I want to warn people, though, if they do want to buy it, which I hope they do,
is that there's a lot of bogus books on Amazon that are trying to trick people into buying the wrong book.
So the best way to buy the book is to either do it through my website, which will take you to the correct place on Amazon instead of one of those bogus books.
So that's Miriam GrossmanMD.com.
and I'm also on Twitter.
There's a link right at the top there to Amazon.
Miriam underscore Grossman.
I hope people will follow me.
I hope people will speak up.
It's very dark.
And the more people that speak up,
the more better chance we have of getting out of this darkness.
I agree.
Thank you for your time.
And I look forward to having you on again.
There's a lot more to this topic.
So hopefully we'll be able to get into some of those other details in the future.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you so much.
All right.
care. All right, make sure that you grab that book while you can. Like we said, we went to every
bookstore locally and weren't able to find it, but lost in Transnation, a child psychiatrist's guide
out of the madness by Dr. Miriam Grossman. We're going to try a little experiment next week.
I actually, this is every year, my family, and it's something we've done our whole, my whole life,
which I love, is the family reunion time where I get to get together with my family.
mother and my father, my brother and my sister, and all of our families are going to come together
to camp. And honestly, we're going to have our usual Big Tree heated conversations, and there are
going to be over topics like this. In my family, we do have these conversations. And I will tell you,
we're not seeing eye to eye on all these things. But I need to be totally focused for that week.
I need to get ready for my family. I'm just about to head out here. So instead of pre-taping a show,
which I would normally do.
I'm actually going to have a great friend of the High Wire
and someone that has been on before.
Dr. Jim Mehan is going to be our guest host.
An awesome guy.
There's a lot of topics we've been talking about.
I said, you know what?
Instead of bringing you on to talk about it,
why don't you grab some of the guests you want to talk to
and let's let him run the show.
I mean, ex-Marine, this guy is just awesome.
He takes the world on, head on.
He takes medicine on head on.
Just a dynamic individual.
We're honored to have him sitting in my seat.
So yes, I'm going to let an understudy go on.
I know they say, never do that.
But I trust he'll do a great job, and I think you'll love that show.
If you don't know who Jim Meaghan is,
here's just a taste of this awesome character.
Who's ready to hear from Dr. Jim Meahan, M.D?
He is absolutely unapologetic about standing up for medical freedom,
and he's here with you today.
Jim Behan!
This is Jim Mehan.
Jim Meann filling in for the one, the only, the man, the myth, the legend, del Bigtree.
I'm a medical doctor. I treat anything under the sun. I just try to prevent disease
instead of just profiting from the end stages.
We are one of the worst countries of all developed countries for childhood death in the first
five years, the worst infant mortality on the planet. We have an explosion of chronic diseases
in our children. Ladies and gentlemen, if you vaccinate your children, you are going to
to create infertility, blood clots, transverse myelitis, more complications than we have ever
seen. We have seen more complications from this vaccine than any and all of the vaccines in 31 years
of history. I've seen so many vaccine injured children. I've seen their bodies, their injuries
swept under the rug denied by pediatricians and doctors. Make no mistake, a huge portion of the
children being diagnosed with autism have suffered a vaccine-induced brain injury.
Bill Gates is the number one funder of the World Health Organization. It's a co-opted organization.
I would, in my opinion, Bill and Melinda Gates are creating a market for vaccines by building
trials that are designed to fail. I will not bow to that science. I will not bow to a tyrannical
government. I will not submit. I will not need.
before a public health agency that long ago gave up in the public interest and became the corporate interest serving institutions that they are now.
It's time to stop. It's time to wake up and understand what's going on. It's not about science. It's about control.
Even if you strip me on my license, I promise I'll become a bigger nightmare for you because I'll run for office. I'll win and I'll come after all of you.
We're at this point in the world today, ladies and gentlemen.
We either rise up or we get run over.
All right, I'm right on the mountaintop where we're at.
Just try to pull out my phone to check out Jim Ehan's episode of the High Wire next week.
I'm sure you will all enjoy it.
Look, we are getting into some very, very confusing and difficult times.
It's hard to figure our way through the madness.
And there is a beautiful kaleidoscope that is human.
As Dr. Grossman said so beautifully, there are different types of men and there are different
types of women and we cover the spectrum and I'm not really here to judge, you know, what you
do with your life and what partners and what love or where you try to find it. What we really
are focused on here, though, is when it involves children, and I've said that before. And if somehow
in my questions, in trying to be as delicate as I can, and I'm not the most delicate,
human being in the world. If I've offended anyone out there today, then I apologize for that.
That happened in my space. I am trying to really get to the bottom of something that I find
very confusing. We're trying to find our way through, as many of you are. So feel free to write in.
If there's a better way for me to language things, I'm always open to trying to do a better job.
But I do see that there's real pain and sorrow, and I do not see how taking away a child's
perspective, especially those that are not having issues, that are perfectly happy in their bodies.
I don't know why we've got to get them and then start training them that they should be
questioning what they see when they look down in the bathroom or when they stare at themselves
in a mirror. I understand some children may be going through that. I don't know why they all have
to go through that. And I personally am just going to state, I just don't see how that's going to
make for a stronger, more empowered, more accepting society. That's me. That's my opinion. That's a
part of what we do here on the high wire. We are asking questions. Many of my team, we have some
arguments on these topics ourselves, and we try to figure out what's the best way to go forward.
What I want to say to you is this. I'm not here on the high wire to try and tell you what you
want to hear. I'm not trying to promote some specific agenda. I am trying to ask you,
the questions that I think many of us are asking and especially ask those questions that I feel
like we are afraid to ask publicly. I happen to be one of these individuals that my whole life
hasn't really been afraid to ask the questions. And so you're on a ride with me. Sometimes I might
be difficult. Maybe you don't agree with all the questions that I'm asking, but what I will tell you
is this. You are getting my genuine thoughts on the matter. You are getting the genuine answers to
the people I'm asking those questions about, and we are on a journey of discovery together.
I have not come to full conclusions on many of the things that we talk about.
In fact, my mind is open, and that is what I'm asking for you.
May you keep your mind open.
May you not be so judgmental that you can't hear the other side, but may you not judge yourself
so much that you can't ask the question you want to ask.
I hope that's what I'm inspiring in you here with the high wire,
is the ability to have your own mind, your own thoughts, your own questions, and know that they
are beautiful, that you are beautiful, and there can never be anything wrong with a good conversation.
You'll see Jim Behan here next week, and I'll be back in two weeks. Until then, I love every one of you.
