The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 334: PANDEMIC 2.0?

Episode Date: August 25, 2023

NBA Star Makes Freedom Fashion Statement; Jefferey Jaxen Reports the Writing is on the Wall for Health Regulators and Governments To Push for Lockdowns Again; Esteemed Physician Issues Comprehensive Report on What Went Wrong During COVID, and Mistakes We Can’t Repeat Again Guests: Jonathan Isaac, Alvin Moss, M.D.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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you are out there in this beautiful world, it's time to step out on the high wire. And while you're doing it, you may want to smell some flowers, see the sunshine, watch the clouds, enjoy being outside. Can you imagine if they ever decided to take that away from you and lock you down your house? We're gonna be talking a lot about that. In fact, we're very focused today.

If you were alive on this planet or if you use social media, you've probably seen this meme. that is going everywhere. Whatever happens next, do not comply. If you don't know what that's referencing, then this is probably your first day at the high wire. So welcome. I'm glad you're joining us. We are going to get into all of the slippery details of what happens when public health officials decide that your life doesn't really matter and all the things you care about, that the greater good is really what matters. You know, when we think about that idea, no matter what happens next, do not comply.

So many people think to themselves, and I think prior to the last lockdown, they thought, I would stand up against any oppression that didn't make sense, and then how quickly everybody just bowed down and got in line, took a knee. Well, we should be asking ourselves, what happens if this happens again?

Am I really, if I really got it now, do I know what it means to stand up for yourself? How many of us wore masks on airplanes, for instance, only to find out that that was the illegal mandate by the Biden administration. So in this essence, we're all helping Biden break the law. So what happens if they try to do it again? Are we going to be stronger or we're going to be bolder? What if our career depends on it? What if the way we're viewed or what we say or what we think, if we're public and we're honest, we actually adhere to the tenant of free speech, it could cost us

our job or our livelihood, our ability to feed our families? I think we all have to think about that because we may be tested again, and we're going to be talking a lot about that. But before we do, since I'm seeing so many people online saying, I definitely will stand up against any sort of insanity like a lockdown. I'm never doing it again or I never did it. Well, I wanted to talk to somebody that did put it all in the line. He joined us on the show in the middle of COVID. He put his career as a multi-million dollar basketball player on the line to speak his truth.

This is what it was like when we spoke to him back in the middle of the COVID lockdowns. I'm not anti-vax. I'm not anti-medicine. I'm not anti-science. I didn't come to my current vaccination status by studying black history or watching Donald Trump press conferences. It is my belief that the vaccine status of every person should be their own choice and completely up to them without bullying, without being pressured or without being forced into doing so. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm uncomfortable with taking the vaccine at this time. As you were sort of stepping in front of those cameras, were you aware of the firestorm

that would probably be set off by stating your opinion around vaccination? I knew 100% that I was walking into something that, you know, that wouldn't be portrayed in my favor, but I felt I had the right knowledge and understanding about what was going on and that, you know, I was free to make that decision for myself and give other people, of course, that haven't had the opportunity to. there's absolutely room to say that the NBA and all these other corporations feel pressure to kind of align themselves with what everybody's saying politically and don't want to push back against that. I've done a lot of due diligence around the science and just kind of weighing it for myself and seeing that, you know, the most of the people that were at risk had either comorbidities or that

they were elderly and that because of the physical state that I was in and even the fact that I had COVID already, I didn't feel the need to take a vaccine that didn't stop me from getting the infection. or transmitting the infection, my faith has played a role in making me the man that I am today and has given me the courage, the boldness, but also the desire to stand up for what it is that I believe in and offer it as an answer to everything that we see. All right. Well, it's my honor and pleasure to be joined now by Jonathan Isaac. Thank you for joining us again today. Jonathan, how are you doing? Man, I'm doing good. I feel like I look so young in those videos. I know. Speaking of the truth has its

costs. I went silver in the middle of all this, I think. Yeah, that's how that happens. You know, when you look back at that now, I mean, so many of us just want to have all of that in our rearview mirror, especially people like you, I think, that just there was so much unnecessary turmoil and strife around the idea that you just simply want to control over your body. You know, now that we're sort of out of it, what is your perspective looking back on that? Has anything changed or, you know, know what are your thoughts on what you went through in the middle of all this and what this nation went through well nothing has changed in terms of my position on anything i i do go back frequently and just thinking about how crazy that time was and people people forget you know

things have died down a lot has changed already but it was it was crazy the amount of pressure and social pressure you know you had the celebrities you had the corporations you had the government, everybody coming out in, you know, one viewpoint. And if you had any hesitation, any concern, you were an idiot, you were an anti-vaxxer, you were somebody to be frowned upon. And that's where I found myself. And, you know, millions of other people found themselves in the same position. I kind of had a center stage because of what I do for a living. But my positions haven't changed. I've saw all the means. So you mean you're not, you're not all of a sudden after all the sciences come out, decided I really like that vaccine.

Let's come out and get that thing. No, not at all. So I'm still in the same boat. Speaking of, I mean, a lot of the science has, you know, if anyone's paying attention or doing any reading, you seem like someone that was already staying on top of it. We now know that, as you pointed out there, not only did the vaccine not stop transmission, but we know now that the heads of Pfizer have said they didn't even test to see if the vaccine could stop transmission before they released it to the public. all of the media pressure, all the pressure on NBA, NFL, all of sports was based just completely on conjecture and no scientific basis. And, you know, they didn't test to see if it would stop transmission. It did not stop transmission. Is that, you know, at the moment you were in the

middle of it, you said not a lot of, you were getting quiet responses from some of the athletes you're with that mostly just sort of stayed away from it. Is the conversation changing in sports? Like do our athletes saying if they ever try to do that crap again, I'm out, man, I got lied to? Or do you feel like everybody's would kind of just do it all again? Well, I don't have a grip on the kind of wide range consensus on everybody, but I've definitely had a handful of kind of internal conversations where guys are saying, if this does happen again, you know, I'm kind of leaning on you and what you did and I'm going to follow suit with, you know, making it a free choice and, and for me personally not do not take.

it. And so that's the conversation that I've had. As you, now you're preparing to go into this season this fall. You're returning to basketball now. Is that, is that correct? Do I have that right? Yes, sir. So as you prepare for that, have there been, first of all, have there been any specific conversations with you just around health and medical decisions and how the NBA views it? And are there broad, are there any changes in the languaging and contracts or anything that that would sort of deal with the future situation if this was to happen again? Are you seeing any writing on the wall in the NBA? Not not heard from the last you know last thing that I have heard is that we don't have any kind of regulations, you know, when it comes to COVID anymore. I know there's this talk

about this kind of resurgence of a, you know, a strain in the vaccine of the infection or something like that coming back. So I don't know if that's going to change. I'm sure it'll be very quickly with everything that's ramping up right now, you know, getting ready for the season. But I haven't heard anything in terms of set in stone. You know, we have to follow any certain rules or anything like that. All right. So they're not really talking about it. And then I don't know how much you're paying attention.

But obviously, you know, in people that have had their eye on this issue, there are just an incredible amount of athletes that have been dropping over with heart attacks, basketball players, students. across America, across the world. When you look at that, you know, and I know this is dangerous territory for you to sort of speak to, but what are your thoughts? Is this something? Are people talking about it in the league?

Is there any thought beyond just whether or not the vaccine works? Are there conversations about whether the vaccine is dangerous? Well, it's such a tough conversation. Even with you coming out and talking about, you know, certain things weren't tested for before this thing was put out. What do we know about what was tested for or more things that weren't tested for that we don't know about? I think that history is going to determine, you know, what was done at the end of the day. As more things come out, as you see what's happening across our world with people struggling with different things, you know, are you going to say it's completely the vaccine? Is it completely COVID?

Is it completely, you know, you don't really know. But simple fact is the way that it was handled was egregious from top to bottom. And so I would not be surprised if we find out more things that were tested for that lead to some of the things that are happening today. As you prepare for this season and the news, some of the things we're going to talk about today, there's masking returning to many universities across the country, which we seem to be. know, who knows if, you know, we're going to get into the details later on in the show. But is that a thought of yours? Is there any sort of PTSD as you go in back in this league thinking, man, are these fools going to do this again?

Well, I mean, and look, it's happening. I really, really struggle with the whole mask thing. One, one, it's the beard. Two, I was the person that, I was the person that the flight attendants and the people always had to say, sir, can you put your mask back up this? standing third, I would just, I would be reluctant to it. But at the end of the day, I try my best to be, you know, compliant in the moment for things like that. It's tough.

It looks like those things are coming back in kind of small waves. And we'll find out if it comes, you know, to a large scale thing. I think a lot of people have PTSD about what was happening. People losing their jobs. People not being able to provide for their families because of what they believe in is freedom and free choice when it comes to a vaccine. Again, I'm going to take the same position. I'm going to be outspoken about my desire to have everybody make a free decision on what

it is that they want to do. I'm not sure what the NBA is going to do, what other leads are going to do, but that's my position. When we look at the world we live in today, it feels like in so many ways we're more divided than ever, you know, unlike most catastrophic events that tend to have everybody put away their ideology. and we all come to the task, whether it's an earthquake or whatever, COVID really just seemed to divide us even more.

A lot of what you're focused on and things that you're doing now, you're trying to look at that and take a look at it. Tell me what you're up to these days. Talking about unitis? Yeah, man. Yeah, absolutely. So I got to take you back a little bit. Back during COVID, I was a Nike signed athlete.

So that was back during 2020. I got injured and I ended up not resign. with Nike. But from that point on, I had been playing with the idea of what it could look like to have a values-based sports and apparel company. You talked about today our world being more and more divided. And it's it's the truth. And even to your point about COVID and how something like that should have had an effect on everybody saying, okay, this is getting a little out of hands, is getting crazy, let's come together. There are more things come out and more people hear about the way that things were handled, that that spirit will come about. Well, obviously, this thing

was done wrong. They handled it wrong. And the people on the other side weren't insane for their positions. But when it comes to Unitas for me, I wanted to see my values represented in the marketplace and tons of companies, especially sportswear, are going in one direction that I believe is, you know, that belief undermines godly values and principles, but also constant principles and values. And so what I wanted to do is give faith-loving Americans and freedom-loving Americans the freedom to buy with their values in these sports and apparel space. And so that's where Unitas was created and born. It's gone off to a great start where we're looking to innovate and continue to work. I'm going to be wearing my own sneaker this upcoming season that's produced by Unitas. And I'm just super excited about

what it can be in the future, uniting people around a set of values that I think lead to prosperity. Where do we find the United States Apparel and things that you're putting out there? you can head to we are unitas.com. We are unitas.com and also we are unitas on Instagram and Twitter. Follow us. Stay tuned. Again, we started with something very simple, a kind of leisure package, but we're hoping to continue to expand and get into all lanes, all sports. We're going to be signing our first brand ambassador this upcoming week. I'm excited about it, so stay tuned for that drop. You know, and I just love your energy. I know, you know, everyone was so excited to have you back on the show, no matter what, you've always stayed positive through all of it. And you stood

positive through, I think, one of the most difficult situations, which is this sort of cancel culture idea. You put out a book about, you know, standing instead of kneeling and why you stand. How is, you know, how is the response to that? Because in some ways, you know, people are so afraid to stand right now when they feel like they can be attacked by this silent. I don't know if it's a minority, majority, but this internet attack system machine, you know, where are you at with that? And how has it been in response to your book?

The response to the book has been fantastic. I'm excited to say that we became a national bestseller shortly after the launch and everything like that. It was fantastic. I've also had, you know, my fair share of you talk about cancel culture or negativity or people coming out and talking ill of, you know, my intentions or what I did, what I've always tried my best to do.

And I thank God for it. I thank the people that I have in my life around me for it. But try my best to focus on the positive. I know where I'm coming from. I know the heart in which I'm trying to create and do. And I know that it's not coming from a malicious place. And so I try my best to stay focused on the message. Stay focused on the people that do agree with where I'm at

and not so much the people that disagree. And then also for me, it's never been about hate. It's never been about hating anybody. or going against the other side. It's simply saying what I believe is valid. And if you want me to tolerate your beliefs and understand your beliefs, then you have to do the same for me. And I'm not ashamed of what I believe. I'm empowered in what I believe. I'm going to stand for what I believe in, along with the people who are standing for what they believe in as well. And we let the chips fall where they may. It's beautiful, Jonathan. I think if we could all just share that. I mean, you know, here in this

country in America, you know, divided, we will fall. This nation's in. really dark times, I feel like it's time for us to unite. It's time, I'm really love it. You're into Unitas, that you are putting out books, that you're, you know, representing thoughtful Americans in a beautiful and loving way. Just everything you stand for, we support. We're so excited to see you back on the courts coming up this fall. So congratulations.

And thank you for taking time to share a little bit of your thoughts today. Yes, sir. Thank you so much, Del. I appreciate you. All right, you take care. You know, there's a lot of people that make sacrifices, and, you know, we have a brand new set of interviews, if you will, the Freedom Files, which we captured when we were at Freedom Fest. We sat down with a lot of individuals. I got the opportunity to sit down with another basketball player, Enos Freedom, who just really a beautiful human being.

And it's amazing when athletes decide to use that visibility to put it all the line. In this case, it did cost him his career. This is a taste of what you're going to see this Monday in the Freedom Files. You're really, you know, one of those heroic characters to me. You're in the NBA, the American Dream. You get involved in human rights to the point where it ends up, you know, costing you that career. Why? Why give all of that? Good question.

Well, a lot of people ask me that question, actually. Well, I mean, because it is beginning myself. It is big in an NBA. It is beginning basketball. Because while we are dribbling the ball in this country, while we are speaking, actually, there's a genocide happening. So I was like, you know what? I have to make a decision. Should I really want to, you know, get another $40, 50, whatever, million dollars?

Or should I want to just stand up for innocent people who don't have a voice and be their voice? The decision was easy. So this Monday, as for the next several Mondays, we're brought. dropping two new Freedom Files, and really that's available to you if you're on our newsletter. I really want to take today, and all throughout this day, I'm going to say it several times. There is something we do. We provide you with free information, absolutely free. Data and when you're going to have a new thing drop like the Freedom Files, you find out about it first.

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And every single piece of information that comes across this show, every single Thursday is in your hands, not just the excerpts, Not just the little paragraph that we show you like CNN and MSNBC and even Fox. They'll tell you that's what it was all about. Maybe they're cherry picking. How do you know I'm not cherry picking? The only way you know is if you actually go and take a look at that study or that peer-reviewed magazine or whatever it is that we're providing you every single Monday. The best part about it is when you talk to your friends, you don't have to say, hey, Del Bigtree said you get to say, look what the CDC wrote about this.

Believe me, if we're on the verge of lockdowns coming in the future, you're going to want some ammunition and you better be signed up for what we give you and put into your lock, stock, and barrel. I mean, the truth. All right. I have a great show coming up. We're going to get into a lot with Jeffrey Jackson here in a second about the lockdowns and what may or may not be coming, what we know from the past. But later on, I'm going to talk to a medical ethicist, Dr. Alvin Moss, who's a director for health and ethics in law at West. Virginia University. This is a conversation we have not had yet. We've talked a lot about science and medicine and what the real truth is, but there's a huge part of science and medicine that is based on ethics. How should you be treated? What is the Hippocratic oath? Did they break it during COVID? He's written a brilliant paper. We're going to get into that. But first, it's time for the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey. Before you say anything, I wanted to take this moment because sort of an odd thing happened last week. You know, last Thursday, we had a huge show, right?

We ended up doing a really deep, beautiful dive and expose on the fires in Maui. And then we knew that we had Dr. Peter McCullough coming up and Gert Band and Bosch at the same time. So that was obviously to be long. And right in the middle of the show, we made this decision. My God, this show could end up being four hours. Why don't we cut a piece of the Jackson Report out?

So live, we told you we're just going to lose one of the stories we were telling. Friday morning you called me. And this almost never happens. You said, Del, I think we might have made a mistake. I think we cut the wrong piece of my reporting. The more I'm looking at this new variant, and that's what we're going to be talking about. We're going to be talking about the new COVID variant. You said, the more I look at this, the more the writing appears on the wall to me,

I think we're going back in. I think they're going to lock us down again. And I said, wow, really. Well, let's definitely cover that this week. And, you know, I thought when we cut that, well, Gertz going to mention it, and we did. And Peter McCullough did this new variant. But that was chilling the fact that you said, I think we're going to go into lockdowns again. And literally, I think it was like three or four hours later across my feed came this.

I got a call yesterday. An individual was in town, a high-level manager, in the... TSA. They said you gotta warn people. Tuesday we got called in the managers and told that by the middle of September you all have to wear mask again and so will airport employees. Then by the middle of October they are going to say that everyone flying has to wear a mask. Because of the new variant in Canada and because of the WHO they may you know, declare this, but regardless, they were told, we expect by December a return to the full COVID protocol of 2020, 2021. Then I left, called the first federal connection that I was thinking of,

told them what I've been told? And they said, what day was that? I said, Tuesday. They said, yep, we were told yesterday, expect COVID protocols to begin rolling out middle of September. shooting match. The children in the mask and the attempt to push a new shot for the new variant and we're right back in the same hell hole we were in just a few years ago. Obviously pretty scary thoughts and an idea coming from Alex Jones. And I want to be clear because I know Alex Jones is triggering for a lot of people, including people in our audience. I'm not playing this to say Alex Jones is always writer that we follow him in the news. But we did a brilliant interview. I had one of my favorite interviews really of all times.

with Alex Jones, a super interesting, unique human on this planet. And he'd be the first one to say, and he did in the interview, look, I run things as soon as I get the stories. Sometimes the stories prove to be true. Sometimes they don't, but I'm out there just planting red flags and letting people know what I'm hearing with his ear to the ground. The reason I bring it up, though, it was four hours after you had just said the same thing to me. And that's what was shocking to me. And so what I'd like to do is understand. exactly what you were looking at last Friday morning that really made you think that we could potentially be going back into lockdowns. Yes, thanks, Del. So I saw a lot of data points

culminating to one single piece here. And let's take the 10,000 foot view here. Let's go to the legislation. Let's go to like the prime movers of policy. So we have HR 307. This is what is titled, technical titles, pandemic and all hazards, preparedness and reauthorization Act of 2013. So like it says, 2013, it's been going for a decade and it's up for reauthorization at the end of this fiscal year. And this is at the end of September. And you're going to see an ongoing theme in my report here, the end of September, the end of September. And so that's up for reauthorization. What did that do? Among other things, it created a couple of offices. One was the HHS office of the administration for strategic preparedness and response. This is an operating agency within the HHS, Health and Human

Services. This dealt with the pandemic response, good and bad, and all aspects of it. And then also it created Barta. Barta is the biomedical advanced research and development authority. Barta invests in medical countermeasures. It gave Moderna over $1.7 billion for boosters. It gave Pfizer over $4 billion for deployment of their vaccine. It gave AstraZeneca $1.6 billion to finish their clinical trials early on. Essentially, it was a prime mover to cede the global mRNA vaccine technology platform. So no small thing. This is up. Now, if this does not get reauthorized, those agencies are gone. They're absolutely gone. They are no more legislatively. So that is in the mix. And before we saw these headlines, this, you know, there would have to be an argument made. Do we really want

to have this top heavy agents these top heavy agencies when we're at the pandemic is over right then we go further just last month literally a month ago the white house launched a permanent pandemic office in the executive branch of the presidency run by a former major general so they have a permanent pandemic office now not someone with not something they have to stack with people last minute when this pandemic kicks off they're ready to go they have a push button pandemic office ready to go. And that's not all. We have the UN with the pandemic treaty. This is in zero draft form. This is the headline looking at this. Pandemic treaty zero draft wins NGO approval. Compliance will be key. Many, many countries are signing on to this, including the United States. It's in draft form.

At the end of mid to end of September, this is going to be finalized. And this is going to deal with a coordinated response, basically a one narrative response across the world for the pandemic, misinformation for vaccine rollout. Again, this is all in the mix for the end of September. And now I started to look over into the UK because this is when I started to see the beginning of it. And remember in 2021, we saw a headline here. It was masks were beginning to come off. The mandates were winding down. We saw this headline. Face masks should continue forever, says sage scientist. The sage is the UK's strategic advisory group for emergencies. This is a British government body and who was a stage member Neil Ferguson was a stage member remember he said

2.2 million people were going to die he was an epidemiologist that was his prediction that was handed off to debor burks in the u.s and she ran basically the covid lockdowns and remember deborick she ran the nsc national security council she was the most powerful person in the coronavirus task force essentially with her power and she is a army colonel so this is a This is the sage. I mean, when I look at that image, I think, can you imagine if she'd have been standing behind, you know, Donald Trump wearing that instead of the scarves we saw? Because this is the truth. This is the truth that this person was.

If we found out that she'd been hired by the NSC and put in place to run our lockdowns and lock us in the buildings, I think a lot more people would have said, wait a minute. Is this a military operation? Boy, she really threw us off with the scarves, you know. Right. And so that was, you know, it could be looked at as a handoff from stage, Neil Ferguson, to the U.S. So sage's government body, and what emerged is something called an independent sage. So a lot of people are saying we need an independent version of this because the government body obviously has biases and conflicts of interest. So we have an independent stage.

But we had journalists during the pandemic do some research. And this is what they wrote about the independent sage. They say the journalists run intelligence-linked operation that warped British pandemic. policy. It says in this article, presented as an independent voice for unbiased, scientific advice, ISAGE, provided a channel for media spinsters, spies, and SIOP specialists, influence Britain's pandemic policy without accountability. Leaked internal emails show members fretting over its unethical methods. And speaking about unethical methods, just hold that eye sage there from an independent stage. Speaking of unethical methods, we had in the UK a nudge unit. These are psychiatrists,

psychologists, people that understand human behavior. They were. were using straight up fear to get compliance to these restrictions, the masking, the lockdowns. And the head of this Nudge unit, after the pandemic was over, he went, he started doing a media tour. And these are the headlines that came out of that just recently. Britain drilled to accept lockdown in future pandemic, says Nudge Unit Chief. He's basically saying we, we gave them the drill, you know, essentially like Pavlov's dog, we taught them how to drool and they're ready to rule at the drop of a hat because we trained them to do that. So with all that in mind coming from the UK, I saw 10 days ago or so this headline, gloomy scientists call for people to start

wearing COVID masks again as they sound alarm over a new variant B.A. 6 that has a lot of mutations. Okay. So we got masks. Now, to be clear, there's three variants going around. We're being told now. And these headlines, at any point, they can run these headlines, these mutations are always happening. And the fact that they ran a headline like that alongside with start wearing masks, the person they're talking about in this article that is suggesting we start wearing masks is from the independent says, a member of independent sage in the UK. This is Dr. Trish. And so that already raised my alarm saying like at that time, not a lot of people were talking about wearing masks, but that was, that was an outlier. Why? Well, there's a link there. So again, just keeping these data points. And now

bringing it up to present day reporting. Neil Ferguson is back. And what is he saying? He's saying the same thing. Team of government scientists, including Professor Lockdown, Neil Ferguson, Worm of new COVID-Varian, you know, spreading rapidly, blah, blah, blah. So how is he back? Well, he had, he was a stage member. He had to step down because he broke his own lockdown policy. Right. So he's part of the UK health security agency. This was an agency that was formed in 2021. So another new agency to deal with future pandemics so you can understand they need an excuse to really start working hard here now at the same time all of these headlines are coming out we have a conversation about speech because during this past pandemic response american free speech was targeted in ways we've never seen before in this country

all the way from the white house down to government agencies attacking individual scientists even members of the public priests it didn't matter the online debate was kind of is highly, highly regulated and censored. So during this time, I see this come out. This is the CEO of Twitter, Linda Yaccarino. She does an interview this month. And she's talking about some new things the platforms are doing. See if you can take a look at what may be concerning.

Since acquisitions, we have built brand safety and content moderation tools that have never existed before at this company. And we've introduced a new policy to your specific point about hate speech called freedom of speech, not reach. So if you're going to post something that's illegal or against the law, you're gone, zero tolerance. But more importantly, if you're going to post something that is lawful, but it's awful, you get labeled. You get labeled, you get deamplified, which means it cannot be shared, and it is certainly demonetized, back to your direct point about brands, brand safety. So they are protected from the risk of being next to that content.

And it's also why it's really important to note that once a post is labeled and it can't be shared and the user sees that 30% of the time they take it down themselves staggeringly they take it down and that reducing that hateful content from being seen is one of the best examples how X is committed to encouraging healthy behavior online you know we talked about her especially because we've been talking about Elon Musk so much that he really seemed to be this arbiter of truth and transparency and exposure, putting out the Twitter files and showing us all the censorship. And then when he hires Yakorino, we were all like, what are you doing? This is as deep state, you know, and she was saying then upon the moment he hired her, what she's saying right now is brand safety.

This is what we've said to people, this is the problem. If the sponsors don't want to be next to harmful content or, you know, free speech is not freedom of reach, then we're just going to protect the brand. So now you're protecting industry, corporations once again, over the individuals that are using this space to communicate. And I'll be honest with you, I think we're beyond the writing on the wall. It sure seems to me that this is already taking effect. Just over the last day, we put out, the high wire put out an incredibly, beautiful post pointing out several of the videos. We link several of the plock in videos. This is

the leading godfather of vaccinations on the stand being grilled by our own Aaron Siri. Every time we've done anything with these videos, we get massive hits. We know so many people are watching us brand new. It's also a huge conversation out there in the world where we wanted people to say, hey, here's multiple videos of your godfather of vaccines telling the truth when he's finally on the stand. I retweeted it. Let's just bring this up. I retweeted it. And, And in, you know, over a day, August 23rd that went out, I just have, what is it, just a few posts, six quotes there on the entire thing, 177 repost. Folks, I have 288,000 followers, 288.7,000 followers. And only six people made a comment on that post and only 177 shared 411 likes.

Usually used to be that when I would post something a year ago, or certainly when Elon Musk was, around, you know, it would be like 9,000, 10,000, you know, 2,000 likes and, you know, 1,000 or 2,000, 3,000 retweets or reposts. And so clearly something is happening here where as soon as we put out something, only a few people are looking at it. I did a little test. Just right before the show, I just decided, what if I don't talk about vaccines or anything? So I put out a puppy video.

I decided just this morning, try something, enjoy this video of Q1, I just want to say I'm trying something and you know it's gotten some views but more importantly is the comments that I've gotten I haven't seen these comments this is the first post I've seen from you in in my for you feed ever ever if this factors into your test but this is the first tweet oh I don't know if this factors in your test but this is the first tweet I've ever seen from you and I follow you thank for thank you for all that you do so I've been out there forever they've been following me and all they finally see this puppy video this is the first tweet this is the first tweet post I've seen of yours in months.

We're being throttled on what was supposed to be the last remaining free space for free speech on the internet. So Yoccarino is doing your job. Elon, wake up, buddy. If you actually did care, if you actually did care about freedom of speech, your ex is exing us out. It's stopping the conversation that I thought he wanted to have. And we've been down this real before.

This reminds me of 2016 again, shadow banning, deb boosting. And she's saying we're prioritizing brand safety. Sorry, $8 a month subscribers for your blue checkmark. We don't care about you. We're prioritizing brand safety. Deamplified labeling, demonetizing people. And she said, don't worry. Also almost gleefully, almost half the people are self-censoring.

They take their own stuff down when we delabel or de-amplify them. So this is great. Now, at the same time, the same month, I should say, in August here, this is all happening right now. YouTube updated its misinformation policy, its medical misinformation policy, and this is what that look like. They're calling it a long-term vision. So this thing isn't going anywhere anytime soon. And it says, moving forward, YouTube will streamline dozens of our existing medical misinformation guidelines to fall under three categories, prevention, treatment, and denial. These policies will amplify to, will apply to specific health conditions, treatments, and substances where

content contradicts local health authorities or the world health organization. So YouTube is now part of the world health organization, at least in policy, what the WHO says or local authorities say goes and nothing else. It doesn't matter if you want to have any other types of conversations. And it's first, under the prevention guideline, its first guideline, let's look at what that has to say, because that's important. Prevention misinformation, we will remove content that contradicts health authority guidance on the prevention and transmission of specific health conditions and on the safety and efficacy of approved vaccines. So they're going to be the watchdogs on those conversations now.

This is like the social media version of when you're out having margaritas with your friends on the deck overlooking the ocean and your neighbor is madly putting plywood boards all over their windows. And you're like, uh, what do they know that we don't know? I mean, it is pretty scary. All of a sudden, these social media companies are battened. down the hatches, preparing for what? The possibility that you may need to spread misinformation about health information. I know. And it's, again, it's not like this is 2019, 2020 or 2016. Right. This is a time where more people around the world than ever want to see open conversation,

open debate, they want people to come together and have respectful conversations, especially about the vaccine topic. And so this is an art. article that kind of reflects that. This is Eric Weinberg. He's a professor of philosophy at the University of South Florida. He's also a professor of history and philosophy at University of Cambridge. He wrote an article titled, We Need Scientific Dissidents Now More Than Ever. And in the conclusion, he says this, the world isn't simple. What the evidence shows isn't always clear, and things are not always as they seem. This doesn't mean we should believe every heterodox thinker that comes along, but it means we should strongly resist the urge to punish them, to censor them, to call them racist,

and to evaluate their claims. Indeed, he gets it. Unfortunately, the Journal of the American Medical Association put this original investigation, they're calling it out on August 15th, calling it communication of COVID-19 misinformation on social media by physicians in the U.S. and what did they find with their deep dive? They found these major themes they identified. Number one, they found that physicians were disputing vaccine efficacy and effectiveness. It's not effective. I mean, it's incredible. This is a medical journal, and there's still like this month. All right. Continue. Sorry. I mean, like, it's sort of what I said last week, which is people are calling me and say, my university is not going to let me in if I don't get the vaccine.

The vaccine doesn't work. If your university believes that giving you a product that doesn't work, only puts you in harm's way, is a good idea. Why would you want to learn anything from those people? And why would you ever read a medical journal again that in August of 20, 23 is still complaining that people talked about the effectiveness and saying that the vaccine wasn't effective? It is ineffective. God. Well, if you like that one, you're going to like these next three. So number two, they said some physicians that they looked at, they investigated, were promoting medical treatments lacking scientific evidence and or US FDA approval. You mean like Ivermectin that has science behind it.

That the FDA just said, we're not going to stop you from taking it. future or at least that's what they say in court says the department of justice attorney number three here's the best one they found doctors during this time disputing mask wearing effectiveness i don't even know where to go here god help us in the last one unsubstantiated claims about the virus origin i thought this was still an ongoing conversation government lies in other conspiracy theories let's see how vague we can get with the world of all right jam is done please just like every copy of your jab, just burn it. There's no point. These people have no mind. Reading this, it's like, was this hung on the shelf around 2019, 2020, and they just took it off

the shelf to publish it now. I mean, these are outdated ideas. Completely outdated ideas. This is an embarrassment idea. Ripped out of the dustbin in the middle of the Xerox. Where was this? Let's publish this. Who published that? Years old. That was what we didn't know anything at all. So they're saying some doctors actually question the effectiveness of mass. Well, let's go into the effectiveness of mass. Let's look at what the science says because this is a conversation that's now unfortunately coming back around again. So we have the Cochrane collaboration. This was the most respected independent collaboration of researchers around the world. And this was their most up-to-date

2023 study. They looked at the physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses. This was an update of a study. They looked at total of 78 studies. So this was an analysis. And they found this concluding, wearing masks in the community probably makes little or no difference to the outcome of influenza-like illness, COVID-19 like illness compared to not wearing masks. And they say the same thing about laboratory confirmed influenza in SARS-CoV-2. And there's an infographic here that was created with some of the studies they looked at. And you can see little and no evidence masking works. And you can see all these studies here, not statistically significant, which says one study, did not significantly

differ, lacks statistical power. So the consensus, there's just no scientific consensus that mass work. This is a complete and total lie. And so not only is the science showing this, but this is a headline just came out from Epoch Times, secret letter to CDC. Top epidemiologists suggest agency misrepresented scientific data to support masking narrative. In November of 2021, eight top health professionals. One of them was Michael Osterholm, someone we've covered on this show before, are sending secret behind the scenes emails. These people weren't brave enough to do this in public. So they were sending, or maybe they just know these CDC officials personally, whatever, they're sending them backdoor emails saying, look, the information you have on masking is not

accurate on your website. You're saying this thing stops the virus. It stops the nasal concentration of the SARS-CoV-2. You're endangering public trust, you're MIFS representing the evidence, and you're giving people false hopes that these masks are working. You really need to change this information on your website. That's the conversation that was happening behind the scenes when everyone else was getting centered. But now let's look at March 23. A study kind of slipped by us. Why? Because no one cared about masks anymore. They were off everyone's face. We didn't think we were putting them back on. But now this study becomes... And we've even had that conversation, right? Should we cover it? I mean, we're through it. What difference doesn't make? People feel like they've moved on.

But so this one slipped by. Yeah. And you know, this really is the study. You should take this one, sign up for the newsletter. You'll get this study in your email. Take this one. If they, if they try to re-implement masks, you take them this study and show them this. Possible toxicity of chronic carbon dioxide exposure associated with face masks used particularly in pregnant women, children, and adolescents. I'm going to read a little bit from this, but I have to because some of these, some of what they're saying is really shocking. It says fresh air has around 0.04% CO2, while wearing masks more than five minutes bears a possible chronic exposure to carbon dioxide of 1.41% to 3.2% of inhaled air.

US Navy toxicity experts set the exposure limits for submarines carrying a female crew to 0.8% CO2 based on animal studies, which indicated an increased risk for stillbirths. Additionally, mammals who were chronically exposed to a 0.3% CO2, the experimental data demonstrate a teratogenicity with irreversible neuron damage in the offspring, reduced spatial learning caused by brainstem neuron apoptosis, that's cell death, and reduced circulating levels of insulin-like growth factor one. Del, it goes on to say this. Just go back, go back, just so it can burn into people's, I'm a visual person, folks. 0.3% is where you can have issues.

0.8% is the limit, the Navy will put you on a submarine. Look at just, remember, 1.4% to 3.2%. massive, massive amounts wearing that mask. I just wanted to make sure that we really capture that in our minds. They're not even close. It's, you know, other worlds when we look at the amount of CO2 we're talking about. After only five minutes of wearing the mask. Wow.

That has to be. So they go on to say this with significant impact on three readout parameters, their morphological functional marker. This chronic 0.3% CO2 exposure has to be defined. as toxic. Wow. Additional data exists on the exposure of chronic 0.3% CO2 in adolescent mammals, causing neuron destruction, which includes less activity, increased anxiety, and impaired learning and memory.

They conclude, there is a possible negative impact risk by imposing extended mask mandates, especially for vulnerable subgroups. Circumstantial evidence exists that extended mask use may be related to current observations of stillbirths and to reduce verbal, motor and overall cognitive performance in children born during the pandemic. A need exist to reconsider mask mandates. So when I see these headlines about masking again, not a debate on should we mask are the benefits worth the risks, just put them on again.

You've got to start asking questions. And that's what we're doing here. I'm so glad you brought it up because we have tried everything. And I think luckily most of the people watching this show, but when we put out videos for people to share, I mean, I put a mask on my son. We did a CO2 monitor with him. And we even had OSHA say we did this exactly how they would have done it. And ultimately, it was off the Richter scale.

And now we're seeing what types of toxic numbers we're talking about. Then I did the experiment we all saw online, right? When you see people wearing masks, you just want to show them this every time. How in the world is that doing anything for you or any of us? This is total insanity. And now you have this study saying, not only is it not working, it's dangerous. but I just saw a little video pop across the Facebook page. I want to play for everybody, just so we can wrap our heads around it.

This is everything, like when people talk about for the size of these viruses and the size of these particles, that were really, these masks were only designed to make sure you're not drooling into someone you're doing surgery on. When we think about a surgery mask, it's all it was was to stop, spit and snot, not viruses and air and bacteria. Somebody put together this little animation that shows you all of the things that, fit through what is really basically the chain leak fence of that mask. Hopefully this gets to millions and millions of people. It's so important.

Take a look at this. Okay. There it is. When you see people telling you to wear a mask, you see them wearing a mask. It is just an absolute example of either you are a shill. You're a propagandist or you certainly lack information. I won't go as far as saying you're not a smart person. you just don't know where to find your information why it's going to be so important.

This is why it's so important for all of you people to start sharing the high wire with everyone you know. While everyone's kind of relaxed and maybe the tensions are a little bit lower, get them tuning in. We got to get this truth into them so that we do not comply so we don't all go away along with this. We can't be the minority again. We can't allow ourselves to be the minority this time. And so the study we just showed said that there's circumstantial evidence that masks reduce verbal, motor, and cognitive overall cognitive performance in children. So then I see these headlines out of the telegraph. These are older headlines, but we have to connect these. Lockdown, harmed emotional

development of almost half the children. And then this one, CDC data, suicides in the U.S. reached all-time high in 2022 CDC data shows. They're saying it's the highest since the dawn of World War II. So just putting that perspective there, I mean, obviously some of that is the lockdowns of the schools, keeping these kids out of schools, but masking them, we have to have this conversation. We can't just slap a headline across the screen and go, okay, guys, mask up again. But let's talk about the vaccine. So we have the legislative piece that's happening in September. We have the censorship from X Twitter platform from YouTube happening now in August.

We have the JAMA articles saying about misinformation. Now let's look at the booster shot in kind of this whole picture of these new virus variant headlines. So several weeks ago, We saw headlines like this. NIH flu jabs and COVID boosters to be scrapped for millions. So at that time, they were saying, like healthy people don't need these things. The government's not going to pay for them for you.

We'll give them to, we'll pay for them, subsidize it for immunocompromise for the elderly, people at risk like that. But the rest of the people, it's going to have to go to the market. Let's see, let's see what kind of market forces are for this vaccine. They're going to have to friend them for themselves. You'll have to pay out of pocket for them for really vaccines that are not a lot of people are taking.

And then here in the US, Dr. Mandy, Cohen, the CDC director, she went on an interview in July 27th of this year just last month and said this. CDC likely to recommend annual COVID shot similar to flu director says, well, this was a shock because this was way before all the new virus headlines. So people were saying, wait a minute, annual shot. The pandemic's over. We're not taking these shots anyway. Most people are already up to date and they have the boosters because a new booster is coming out when at the end of September. So at that point, when she goes on that interview and says that, the House subcommittee on the coronavirus response directly contacted her, sent her a letter, House COVID panel requests briefing on fall vaccine plans from new CDC head.

They're basically saying, look, what you're doing would mark a significant change in federal policy and guidance. We need all the evidence, all the emails and communications of why you are even speaking like this, which is great. So it's great these agencies are getting out ahead of this. But from my understanding, ASIP has just announced that September 12th will be a new regulatory meeting. And what are they going to talk about? COVID vaccines. So we're going to keep an eye on that. These things are happening very fast now. So this is the headline on August 14th.

So last week, we saw new COVID vaccines are on the way as ERIS variant rises. Again, the fear headlines weren't quite there yet. They're just saying we got this new vaccine. There's some variants. And then we go in this article, it's very telling to look back just a week compared to now. It says basically for people giving these shots, they will be fighting declining concern about the virus, as well as fatigue and skepticism about the merits of this vaccine. Kaiser Family Foundation Director of Survey Methodology Ashley Kursinger said.

She goes on to say public health officials, if they want to see a majority of adults get these annual vaccines, they're going to have to make a case, make the case to the American public that COVID isn't over. and it still poses a risk to them, Curringer said. Well, that's interesting. But then it goes on even further. COVID-19 vaccine makers have paired back expectations for this Falls vaccination campaign with Pfizer, the largest maker of MRI shots with Biointech, recently warning that it might need to cut jobs if it does not do well.

Its biggest rival, Moderna, conceded demand could be as few as 50 million shots. And Dell, let's look at the headlines now. COVID vaccine stocks. jump as new variants emerge ahead of fall shot rollout. So it looks like they got that demand they wanted just by the headlines. And then if you go to Substack, you're getting people speaking a little more freely here as Jordan Satchel. Time for your eighth dose. Pfizer says latest booster won't be tested on humans, but it works great on mice, just like the rest of the boosters. They're only testing them on mice. And then if you go to MPR, it says coronavirus questions.

and answers, is it wiser to get a booster now or wait for a new fall booster? And it says in here, the minimum of four months is based on theory. However, and not on studies, says Dr. Aaron Glatt, chief of infectious diseases at Mount Sinai, South Nassau, in West Hampstead, New York. People who were immunocompromised got the booster not as well, along with guidance to talk to their doctor about additional boosters two months apart. So if I'm reading that right, they're saying, look, as long as you're getting these boosters two months apart, keep on shooting.

Keep on doing that. You know, as we look at this, you know, I keep thinking about the interview we did last week with Dr. Peter McCullough and Geret, Bandon Bosch. And, you know, for what anyone thinks, you know, we're just putting it all out in front of you. I'm not, you know, selling one idea or another. We are looking into everything right now as we move forward. But Geret said something that stuck with me. And it was talking about sort of the fact that the vaccine, those have been vaccinated, or at a higher risk he believes.

He mentioned that they should be taking antiviral starting immediately. He is afraid that the virus is about to mutate and get around the protections of that vaccine, which is going to be very problematic for a lot of people. But when I read that, they say, you know, one a year is the new booster protocol unless you're immune compromised, unless you're immune suppressed. And I think essentially what Gert was saying, if it's true, everyone that got the vaccine is immune suppressed. Their bodies are not reacting to this virus correctly. And we know that every time you get a vaccine, it's waning faster and faster.

Even Dana Carvey, and we played the whole joke where they said, you know, a new booster every hour. In the next 15 minutes, it'll work. You better get to your car. But it's not funny. That's what's what's happening. But for people that didn't catch it, just listen to what Gier Van der Boch had to say again as we sort of look at this through another lens. My concern is that the protection.

that the vaccinies, and of course I'm not talking about all the vaccine because I've even launched recently a video message where I was clearly saying people who got one shot, don't worry, you're not primed. So one shot, if you only got one, you're probably made. Exactly. Didn't do the damage. People who got clearly the infection before they got vaccinated, don't worry. I think they may, you know, to some extent their immunity may be compromised, but they are certainly having innate immunity that they can further develop and they got primed. It becomes very tricky when you got vaccinated, especially with the MRNA vaccines, early on before you got infected. And that is primarily the case of all the vulnerable people. Right.

Those were vaccinated first. The elderly people with underlying diseases, people who were immune suppressed, etc. I'm afraid these people will be without any their adaptive immune response. I continue saying it's not true to say, oh, there will be a variant. that is highly, highly virulent. No, this variant will have the capacity to overcome the inhibitory capacity of the non-neutralizing antibodies

to prevent severe disease in the vaccine's. So it's not that it's like this super deadly, it's not going to be super deadly to the unvaccinated who have a perfectly working immune system. I recognize that, I'm fighting that. It's just going to be those whose bodies will not be able to mount the proper. and they're going to take a virus that isn't necessarily but it's going to be deadly for them.

Exactly. You know, there's always a lot of controversy around anybody like Geert that we've brought on. He is still working on, you know, future innate vaccine programs for the innate immune system. But he comes from WHO. He worked for WHO. He thinks like they do. And which makes me always think more, have these conversations, are we getting a site?

If he thinks that, that we potentially have put everyone that's been vaccinated at risk, what would our government do? What would the governments of the world that have scientists just like Geert, if they know the same thing he's saying but aren't telling us, what would that look like? Would they say, well, we better lock down, we better Matt, don't tell anybody why. But the truth is, is we've ruined everybody's immune system. The common cold could kill them this winter. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. And that's why I find Geert fascinating. Is he giving us a vision into what the sort of other side, that pro-vaccine science space is really thinking and knows.

about what they've done here. Certainly, certainly they must recognize that every time they give someone a vaccine, it's lasting for a shorter and shorter period of time, that the vaccinator now being hospitalized at higher levels than anybody else, and that it appears that when they're being vaccinated, it's increasing their risk of being infected.

All of these things, the science is out there. I mean, are they just totally daft and have no concept in this is going on, or do they know it and they're trying to cover the tracks for the greatest scientific error that's ever been made. I mean, who knows? We don't know what they're thinking, but all of it is on the table here at the high wire.

Right. And so you have the public declining interest in the vaccine, people concerned about long-term safety issues, myocarditis. You have Pfizer saying, we're going to cut jobs if we don't get these vaccines out. Moderna, pairing back expectations. We need a, they need a new group,

a new subpopulation to really boost this up. And this comes in, February, 2023, we reported on this. CDC adds COVID-19 vaccinations to immunization schedule for children and adults. What's happening now, school starting. And remember, we covered this in 2021 when they were trying to really beat the drum and scare people then because they were trying to get an emergency use authorization for the vaccine in kids that eventually happened in October. But we covered this in May of 2021, American Academy of Pediatrics showing the data, the actual mortality rates, percentage of child cases resulting in death on that far right column. 0.01%.

0.02%, nothing going on there, essentially. And so we have this conversation coming into the full two now with these new variants. These schools can possibly start green lighting this thing. And remember, the issues for COVID for kids is kind of a non-starter looking at those numbers. And we have Rochelle Walensky, the former CDC director, she was asked directly in a hearing, why did you add this to the childhood immunization schedule, the recommendation? Did you look at the myocarditis? Like, show me the science, what was going on?

Listen to her answer. This is really important. The question I have is in October of 2022, the advisory committee broke public health norms by deciding to add the COVID-19 vaccine, including those under emergency use authorization to the childhood immunization schedule. That includes the bi-valent booster shots.

Obviously, they're not a mandate, but they, of course, are largely followed. So, I mean, how do you view the cost-benefit of scheduling brand-new, bi-valent booster shots? for this age group. Considering the children are very low risk from COVID-19, 75% of children have already caught the virus, and the vaccine is known to do pretty little to prevent transmission in this age group. The important thing I think that's really that we need to recognize is the reason that ACIP recommended and CDC put forward getting the COVID-19 vaccine on the pediatric schedule is not,

it was only because it was the only way it could be covered in our vaccines for children's program. It was the only way that our uninsured children would be able to have access to the vaccines. That was the reason to put it on the schedule. It can't be eligible for vaccines for children's program to be available to the uninsured unless it is on that schedule. That was the reason to put it there. I just keep to always be closing. Boy, she closed on that. No, it really isn't about your kids.

This is just about the underserved and those that wouldn't be insured so that they could get a product that they would never, ever freaking need that doesn't do anything for them. But what's it on the schedule? Guess what? Every moron across America running a school system is going to say, oh, wait, look. And every doctor, by the way, whether or not it's actually mandated to go to school, we'll just add it as you walk through. If you don't know what you're doing and you hand your kid over, oh, I just gave him COVID. It was a part of the recommended schedule.

You didn't want the recommended schedule? We know where this goes. She knows where this goes. CDC knows where this goes. Our children across America are about to be poisoned for no reason whatsoever. Another way to look at that is it's a marketing decision, a product distribution decision. Dell, I called you last week because I saw some writing on the wall that was concerning. And during the last three years, we know that media organizations were handed scripts,

completely divorced from reality. The facts that were used to dominate these news cycles have been questioned, are questioned, these dominant narratives that could never be touched have fallen. And as you turn on your TVs now, I ask everybody to just sit there and ask themselves, What are you seeing when you see stuff that looks like this? COVID is making a comeback this summer. COVID cases are on the rise again across the U.S. Across the country, COVID hospitalizations jumped more than 14% in the most recent week.

Hospitalizations up 60% in the last month, according to the CDC. A fast-spreading new sub-variant of the coronavirus is raising concerns among health experts globally. The main driver of this is a variant that's relatively newer to the scene. EG5. It's easier to give and get, so that makes it kind of easier to pass along. The World Health Organization and the CDC came out saying they were tracking it closely. A mask can be your best friend. Keep it private. Back in time, we've had them in our pockets, in our coats, and our backpacks, time to bring them out again, especially as the school season starts. We don't want to see kids missing school for things that we could have prevented.

One Atlanta College is now reinstating a mask mandate. For the next two weeks, all students, and employees must wear a mask unless alone in their office. There will be social distancing and no large student gatherings. Upstate University Hospital putting a face mask policy back in place. So this new requirement is for staff, visitors, and patients in clinical areas of the hospital. Universal COVID testing is also now mandatory for admitted patients. You should be wearing masks in crowded areas, especially during a search. COVID at home testing kits back in high demand.

CVS is tracking uptick and purchases. So is Walgreens, a spokesperson telling us, quote, we are seeing greater demand in this category nationwide, which may cause temporary and isolated shortages. Stock up on at-home tests. They do cover that new strain. Keep a mask handy in case you're in a crowded place. And most of all, get your shots, your best chance of staying healthy.

A reminder that COVID never went away. Didn't. COVID never went away. I mean, that's what we've done to ourselves. It was unbelievable. You're right. Wow. And to think, you know, last Friday you were predicting this. You know, we missed it by that much, but here we are. Here we are with a lot more detail, too. And looking at that, masks are a physical symbol. They're essentially a walking billboard with really more psychological value than scientific evidence backing it. So when we see those comments and then headlines after headlines that look like this, companies, schools, Kaiser Permanente, reinstates COVID-19.

mass mandate. Lionsgate major movie studio reinstates mass mandate effective immediately. Georgia College reinstates mass mandate and physical distancing. Morris Brown College and Atlanta College reinstate mass mandate. Let's look at the numbers here because this looks pretty scary if you're seeing this for the first time, especially after, you know, let's say something big must be going on. Something big must be going on. Public's traumatized. Remember, they were drilled to accept lockdown. So they're being really pushed into this. Let's look at the cases chart. This is a lot of this. This is all world data, our world data.

This is Europe, Israel, US, China, India. You can see all on the right side there. Not much going on, especially not much going on from the highs that we've experienced and seen. Let's look at it. Okay, those are just cases, whatever, but what about mortality? Because this thing is clearly killing people, right? Let's look at the death chart. Not much going on again.

Still not much going on. Nowhere near what we saw in the past in 2020, 2021. go to the US CDC. We're talking about hospitalizations chart. Still a little uptick there. Nothing compared to those previous upticks. And then the death charts from the CDC actually goes down. There's nothing going on. So we have to question, why are these headlines pushing fear in unison? Why are they pushing remasking when their effectiveness is not supported by science? How far are they willing to take at this time? And what are people going to? It's a different world than three years ago. People are awake. What are we going to do?

What an amazing report, Jeffrey. Just so much detail, and we have all seen those headlines. That's why we're seeing so many people posting about it. I will not comply. But to see all of those things lining up, clearly we need to wake up everyone we know right now so that they recognize sooner than later. We have the majority. This isn't happening again. We will vote you out. We will not make, we'll not allow this to happen again. We're too intelligent. We're not that stupid and and a lot of that's thanks to you Jeffrey amazing report thank you so much you're welcome Joel all right well you know when you're watching all of this and I want to make something clear here that on the high wire I've said it before I'm

incredibly curious as a person I you know we have built a team of incredibly curious scientists and lawyers we are investigating everything that we see out there we don't know that everything is going to add up or that is going to prove to be true. I know Geert Van Bosch and Peter McCullough. Those two very different scientists use different perspectives. Many of you would say Geert Van Bosch is planning on making a vaccine. It's true. Why would he be on the high wire? I said, well, because I think he's making some interesting points. And some of them I agree with. Some of I'm not sure. But I'm a person that likes to know. I'd like to at least know what everyone's thinking. If I'm sitting at a table, I want to know what does everyone think on a topic?

and then I can make up my own mind. I don't want anybody hiding some part of the story from me because I consider myself to be fairly intelligent. What I'm really good at is taking in a lot of information and coming up with my own thought. I cannot have my own clear thought if I'm robbed of a perspective. So for some of you that may have difficulty with some of the people that we interview out there,

I want to let you know. Just because I'm interviewing them doesn't mean I absolutely agree with them. And I know that this audience comes from, many different perspectives. Some of you are just ultra, you know, natural health and in nature. And some of you don't even believe a virus exists. That's okay. But what we mostly talk about here is you don't want to be injected with products that are going to poison you that look like they may be bio weapons themselves. You don't want to be getting CO2 in mass. So we're there for everybody. But one of the things that Geert pointed out last week, this is something that I know

to be scientifically true. And whether or not he works for the CIA or he's just a rogue scientist up in Belgium, I see all of your comments out there. What I will point out is the things that we should be nervous about. And this is one of the things he said last week. And in all the things,

this is what stuck with me through the week. Take a listen to this. One more time. There is so much focus on what happened at the beginning, whereas nobody seems to realize that the huge gain of function experiment that we are doing in the population on the very human species is the mass vaccination. Who has manipulated the virus and who is responsible? For me, this is more political. The real biological issue is the mass vaccination experiment that

has completely changed the behavior of the virus. Why do you think that WHOCDC have been changing the definitions all the time? Because the... behavior of the virus has been changing, right? Look, we started out from a virus that had moderate infectiousness to viruses that are now highly infectious. That is a kind of change of function, right? More and more infectious when you now becomes more virulent. And that is at large scale, right, on the very human species.

From my perspective, I grew up, you know, reading science, doing the same science class as you had. at the doctor's television show on CBS, where I got to read a lot of medical journals. And this concept of evolution is a prominent concept when we talk about how things move in nature. And what Geard has been talking about from the beginning is that viruses and bacteria evolve. One of the things I want to say to every person I see wearing a mask in an airport is you do realize that you're just arresting your development. If that thing actually works, luckily for them it doesn't.

But if it actually works, you're blocking your evolution, meaning you're you're, You're alongside of virus and particles and all the things we live in this world. We have this amazing immune system that keeps evolving with everything around us so that we are fit to live on this planet. If you wear that mask, it's like atrophying all of your muscles, never working out, not being a part of your environment. At some point, you may catch up with this. It's going to catch you further down the road. And maybe it's a more deadly version for you and not anybody else. But think about what Geert said here.

And this is true. the vaccine doesn't stop transmission, which means it's turning every single person that got the vaccine into an incubator. And when we think about gain of function, this is what the question was that you didn't hear. I said, do you believe this was escape from a lab and gain of function research caused this thing? And Geert's basically saying, what difference does it make? Where it came from, what we're doing to it is far more terrifying. If you imagine gain of function is taking a virus that maybe infects bats and seeing if you can get it to infect a human cell, in a petri dish and then see if you can keep changing things to make it gain functions from petri dish to petri dish. How many petri dishes do you think they use to make something gain function?

10, 20, maybe 100, I don't know, a thousand if they were really focused on it. And what we've done is turn over a billion people into petri dishes for viruses that have no immune systems now, that can't fight anything off. And what I asked myself, and I really, I honestly, I don't know the answer to this. But when I look at what's happening, when I see them telling us to all wear masks again, is it just a giant sci-op experiment to control our minds? Maybe, I don't know. Or is it possible that they're afraid of what they know to be true? We just ruin the immune systems of hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of people worldwide. They may be vulnerable to dying from a common cold right now. what would they do if that was the reality that sunk into them?

I'm not saying that is a reality, but what we are saying is we have messed with nature. We have certainly, if you believe in the Bible, we have definitely eaten of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. We are promised we will surely die if we think we're smart enough to start messing with viruses and bacteria and turning human beings into walking petri dishes and gain of function science experiments. It's the world we live in. We're going to be covering all parts of it here on the high wire. I'm not selling any part of it to you. I think you should know what everyone's saying.

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than most of the episodes I ever did on CBS. So I want to thank you for all of your support. I want to take this conversation just a little bit deeper. You know, hopefully with knowledge there is power and the ability to understand where we've been helps us guide where we're going. And to that avail, I read a brilliant article by a fantastic doctor, Dr. Alvin Moss, rethinking the ethics of the COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns. I don't know if he was psychic. I don't know if he needed to get this out right away because he knew we were going to do this again. but is my honor and pleasure to be joined right now by Dr. Alvin Moss. Dr. Moss, it's really a pleasure to see you again.

How are you doing? Thank you, Del. Pleasure to see you, too. This is a brilliant article, and frankly, what I love about it is there's so many of us that have friends that maybe just on the verge of being able to ask a few of the right questions that are still reticent. don't know how to approach them. They're looking at us like we're conspiracy theorist or something.

But this article is so brilliant. It just really lays out all the details of what any decent doctor or scientist should have taken away from the lockdowns and how they affect our lives, the numbers, whether it's worth it. But to begin with, why did you decide to write this article now? Well, if I can just give you a little context, Del. In 2022, I direct a statewide ethics committee network. And our ethics committee network did not have an annual symposium in 2020 because of the lockdowns.

In 2021, it was virtual. So in 2022, and there's, you know, there's the brochure on the screen, we were back together again in person. And one of our discussions was a panel session in which we talked about less than, you know, lessons learned from the COVID pandemic. And honestly, it was a time when we all got to share with each other what we had learned. So we had physicians, nurses, chaplains, administrators, lawyers, you know, just the whole wide spectrum of people who had endured the pandemic in healthcare.

And the stories that we heard were really very moving. For example, a woman who says, I never speak in large groups, but I just have to speak. She was a nurse in a nursing home, and she talked about the lack of dignity and respect, how nursing home residents during the pandemic were moved from room to room. And at one point she said, we even put them in the kitchen. We are no longer using the kitchen. So we put them in the kitchen. You talk about a lack of dignity and respect.

And one of the panelists was a philosopher ethicist, Dan Miller, and he co-wrote this article with me and he said, one of the problems with the way we approached the response to the pandemic is that there were no countervailing considerations. There was no, there were no considerations of what would be the harms if we locked down society. And his comment resonated with really everybody in the audience. And then Dan and I started talking about, well, what were those countervailing considerations? What were the harms? And then over the next year, we started keeping track of all the harms as they were recorded.

recorded. So that's the context. We were aware of harms. We knew that there was a lesson to be learned, that really that this extended lockdown response was contrary to what the public health ethics literature would say was the appropriate response. And we thought we needed to get the message out so that before we thought about doing an extended lockdown again, we should review what we learned. So let me stop there and just say, that's what got us going. That's what the motivation was. When you were writing this, which I'm sure took some time, is there any writing on the wall in your field?

And we just spent, you know, the last hour and a half really discussing that we're starting to see this same languaging that put us into a lockdown before. Did you have a sense that this could happen again in the near future? Is there something in your world of medicine that, or were you, you just making sure that we knew what we had just been through? Or, you know, were you at with that? We were wanting to make sure that we knew where we had been and that we didn't do it again without really much stronger evidence to justify it.

I mean, the public health ethics literature said use the least restrictive means possible. Use voluntary measures, not mandatory measures. Whatever you do, make sure you have the confidence in the public. public behind you. And recognized, and the language prior to the lockdown was forced quarantines, realized that forced quarantines entail a significant deprivation of liberty and that you just don't want to go there. And previous public health ethicists have referred to forced quarantines as blunt measures or extreme, you know, extreme instrument, something that shouldn't really be done that voluntary measures should be done instead.

And above all else, the public health ethics literature said that whatever we do, it needs to be equitable. We need to treat all people fairly. There shouldn't be some people who are disadvantaged more than others by whatever public health interventions we institute. And as you well know, and I think maybe Jeffrey Jackson was talking about it, you know, the people, the disadvantaged people, the lower income, unfortunately, Black Americans, Hispanic Americans were disproportionately harmed by the pandemic, not only in

education outcomes for their children, but in jobs, in loss of jobs, or being required to work in person when others could work remotely. So is that just, is that an equity issue when you say, you know, black and Latinos? What is it, why would a lockdown in a pandemic where we all can't work, why does it affect them more? Well, first of all, if children are not allowed to go to school, but one of the couple is deemed an essential worker, or both of them are maybe essential workers, but now you have the children home. One of them has to stay home with the children. The other goes to work, and their income drops. So it hurts them economically. And then there are all sorts of study is showing that children who learned remotely really suffered.

And again, remote learning was something that was even more difficult. So there's remote learning or there's no learning. But if you are of a lower income and you don't have access to the internet or you don't have a device to access the internet, then you are disproportionately harmed. And as some of the teachers that I've spoken to have said, they knew that there were children who were getting no education during this time when there was supposedly. remote learning. Wow, we've seen like incredible drops in scores and math and education and reading comprehension. You know, when we think about the CDC and the NIH and the FDA years ago,

before COVID, I stood at an ACIP at the ASIP meeting for the CDC and I said on a microphone during my statement, we need you. I am not a person. I mean, I know they knew who I was at that point. I'd been fairly loud spoken, but I said, we need you. I'm not against having big, powerful, brilliant scientific bodies watching out for our health, our safety, the environment that we live in, but you're making decisions that go so totally against all reason and science that you are going to destroy your credibility. And then where are we at when that happens, you know, where is it at? I mean, when you look at ethics, this is something you've been, you also are a nephrologist, you're a doctor, you're not just some professor that talks about

ethics, you've treated people your whole life. But when you think about your relationship with the CDC and the FDA through all of your career, where is that confidence at now for doctors and and citizens. So let me just sort of back up one second. Confidence, the American public's confidence in the CDC has dropped dramatically. NBC News did a poll in January of 2022. The majority of Americans stated at that time they did not trust the CDC to manage the COVID pandemic.

Then if you look at the, if you look at the number of people who got the third COVID shot, if you will, you know, boosters were highly. But by August of 2020, almost a year after the booster was rolled out, only 30% of Americans had gotten the booster. And then I just checked this morning, only 18% have gotten the bi-valent booster. So people are no longer following CDC recommendations. It looks to me based on this data that the majority of Americans are no longer following CDC recommendations.

And recall what I said, public health ethics said, above. Of all else, do not lose the confidence of the public because you need the public to be really putting into action the CDC recommendations in their own lives. So that's one thing. Then yesterday I was interviewing a whole bunch of candidates, their physicians who are applying for a fellowship position at our university, and I was asking them, where do you see trust in society at this point? And to a one, and they're all over the country.

One was from Montana, one was from Florida, one was from Detroit. I mean, all over the country, and they say, we just don't have the trust. Our patients don't trust us. Our families don't trust us. Really, what we've gone through has been very harmful to the practice of medicine, because if you don't trust the physician, you're not going to necessarily do what they say. And if there's actually recommending something that would help you, but you're very hesitant to do it, that's not good.

Needless to say. You know, and I guess I hold, you know, in some ways I think I'm partially to blame for that. I am one of these people that is out there saying you can no longer just trust your doctor because your doctor, you know, went along with a protocol that made no sense. They weren't following the science. They were pushing a vaccine that didn't stop transmission. I knew that because I read the EUA, the emergency use authorization that clearly said they had no idea from the trials of Pfizer. or Moderna, whether or not it could stop transmission. Yet every doctor gave the same advice that the news agencies gave.

They're not doctors, but, you know, coming from this very limited space of understanding. And so in order to, you know, get back to a place, you know, where we can trust doctors, I think one of the questions I have to ask you is when you sit at these symposiums now, when you're on a Zoom call, when you get involved with all these other doctors, He said you had a panel. Are doctors waking up to how poorly, how poor the advice was that they shared and how big a lie took place to the CDC and the FDA?

Because until they come to terms and really wrap their heads around, what actually happened there, how can a patient trust a doctor? I mean, are you feeling like the medical establishment is waking up? I wish I could say you, oh, without a question they are, but I think you have to understand that physicians are still under a lot of pressure to comply and to go along with the narrative, especially as they're rolling out more flu shots and COVID shots. You know, you have been talking about the science and you've been talking about rapidly waning

effectiveness and failure to prevent transmission and the fact that the booster wore off after 10, 12 weeks. You know, the science is there. It's hard to find. I mean, the Cleveland Clinic had a study in June saying that the more COVID shots you've gotten, the more likely you are to get infected with COVID. So the science is there in the corners, but honestly, I think we need physicians to listen a lot more and to not bully or harass patients into getting treatments that they don't want

to get. I mean, we really need to broaden this conversation. One of the things in public health ethics is that you need to listen to the community. And patients are part of the community. And one of the big mistakes that was made during the lockdowns was it was all driven by the public health experts in Georgia at the CDC or in Washington, D.C. They were not getting out talking to the people in the community. So one of the recommendations is next time around, if anybody even thinks about a lockdown,

you should get some businessmen. You should get some historians. You should get some economists. You should have a broad diversity of the community participating in a dialogue before you do the most restrictive measure that you could possibly use, especially when public health ethics says, use the least restrictive approach. So we really, you know, one of the things I'm hoping,

you know, Dellen, talking to you is that your listeners will understand there is now a large body of evidence. it says the lockdowns cost huge harms. It was a mental health crisis of alarming proportions. I think Jeffrey Jackson talked about the suicide problem. And, you know, girls 12 to 17 years old saw 50% increase in suicide attempts in 2021 compared to prior to the pandemic. So yeah, you've got that up on the screen. Let me read this. Let me read this really quick. By early May 2020 ED visit counts for suspected suicide attempts began increasing among adolescents age 12 to 17. years, especially among girls. During July 26th through August 22nd, 2020, the mean weekly number

of ED visits for suspected suicide attempts among girls aged 12 to 17 years was 26.2% higher than during the same period a year earlier. During February 21st through March 20th, 21, mean weekly ED visit counts for suspected suicide attempts were 50.6% higher among girls age 12 to 17 years compared with the same period in 2019. those are staggering numbers. There's graphs that go along with this. This is CDC numbers. And so when I look at this,

and this is part of what is scary for everyone watching the high wire right now, whether or not we can get through people's heads that the vaccine absolutely did nothing and didn't work, whether or not, for whatever reason, since the news is saying wear a mask And the Cochran collaboration looks at 72 studies all around the world saying that masks don't work, all the science shows they don't work. If the media is saying it, that means the CDC is telling them to say it.

The FDA is behind it. But with all of that, okay, they can be closed-minded and literally have their heads of the sand or up there, you know what, but these numbers, these suicide numbers that you're talking about, These mental health numbers, you get into the numbers of the rise in alcoholism and drug use, isn't that enough to say clearly the cure was worse than the disease? These numbers are astronomical. Shouldn't this protect us from making this mistake again? Well, that is one of the points we make in the paper.

Alcohol-related deaths went up significantly. Drug-over-dose deaths went up significantly. there's something called deaths of despair. And these are people who just are so depressed and they don't see a way out of their situation. And again, these are younger people. These are not older people. These are not the people who would be vulnerable

necessarily to COVID. But these are people who are low income, lower education level, and the deaths of despair went significantly up. So you would hope this mental health crisis of alarming proportions. In fact, Vivek Murthy, you know, the U.S. surgeon,

in general earlier this year had a white paper on the epidemic of depression and isolation and loneliness in this country. I mean, this country is in no shape to tolerate another lockdown and to usher in even worse mental health outcomes. So the mental health outcomes alone should be enough to prevent us from going back into extended lockdowns. But then there are the educational outcomes. You alluded to them, the National Center for Educational Research.

of the Department of Education reported the worst outcomes in mathematics in decades and fourth graders and eighth graders. And reading was also below. But then the Office of Civil Rights of the Department of Education reported how much more black American children were behind white American children in their educational levels. So we can't afford to do this to our children.

We can't afford to do this to our adolescents. We can't afford to do this to our parents. to our people with mental health. And you know, with loneliness being 41% of the US public now, I think according to the latest poll, we really, the American public cannot tolerate this. But let me make one of the point. 94% of the people in the world are under the age of 70.

And as I look at John Ioniti's infection fatality rate numbers, the infection fatality rate in people under this age of 70 was less than 0.1%. They were not at risk. So we basically had a one-size-fits-all approach, and you and I both know a one-size-fits-all approach is never a good idea, except maybe in socks. Right. No, you're absolutely right. What is the risk to these kids?

And when we think about ethics, I want to ask you some questions on ethics, because one of the things that comes up is, for instance, vaccinating children, which is going to get to be, as the school year is now, Now, for many people, it's started. It's getting underway. If they start panicking school systems, they may bring this COVID vaccine, but vaccinating children. We have Dr. Paul Offutt who made the rhodovirus vaccine as being used as this pro-vaccine as it gets. He has said publicly now that there is a causal, a causal relationship between that vaccine

and myocarditis, meaning that, and then when we look at those numbers, let's bring them up again, the numbers that the potential death risk for children. Let's look at children under 19 years old. 0.027% of your risk of death should you catch the virus. I mean, that's a zero in every math class, in every public school in America, yet they've decided to give this vaccine too. And this is the thing about ethics in order to protect that high at-risk group of over the age of 70. Now, I love grandma, I love grandpa, but I've never seen us use innocent children as shields to protect and put them at risk to protect the elderly in America. How is that ethical?

So it's not ethical because, first of all, the vaccine doesn't prevent transmission. So even if you're vaccinating children, they could still transmit it to grandma. And then the second thing is we believe that every individual, you know, you should have a risk benefit evaluation. And if the harms exceed the possible benefits, and in fact, the benefit to a child, you have the number, point what, 027 percent or something. Whereas the risk of myocarditis in zero to 19-year-olds, you know, depending upon the study, it was either three times greater, seven times greater, 12 times greater, than in the control population, why would you subject or the risk of blood clotting or all the other things that we now know can be associated with the, with the COVID-19 vaccines, why would you subject them to that risk when they will derive essentially zero benefit from the vaccine? Right? I mean, that's a simple benefit risk analysis, and you wouldn't do it. You know, the Hippocratic Oath, be a benefit and do no harm. Well,

myocarditis from a vaccine is a harm. Yes. So you are doing harm to some people, which seems that science and medicine has changed its tactic. It used to be, I'm not going to do something that could put you at harm. It doesn't, medicine, am I correct in this, that doctors are not supposed to be working for the greater good, this idea that I might put a small group of people at risk, but it's for the greater good of society. In my understanding that that was the purpose of the Hippocratic oath

was that you are only talking and working for the individual that's sitting in your office right now. You can never put them at harm, even if it protects five or ten people outside of this room, that every patient needs to know that because the Hippocratic Oath, you are working to my personal best interest. Do I have that correctly? Right, right.

In fact, quality health care for the 21st century, the Institute of Medicine, now the National Academy of Medicine, said it should be individualized, tailored to the individual patient. It should be patient-centered. In fact, we're even talking about precision medicine now, where again, we're trying to identify what is the best treatment for the particular patient. That's where we should be. We shouldn't, you know, we shouldn't be doing things that have more harm than good.

And in fact, lockdowns, that was one of the points of the paper. You know, it appears based on all these outcomes, psychological outcomes, mental health outcomes, educational outcomes, economic outcomes, all these outcomes that the lockdowns cause more harm than good. You know, we didn't even get into, really did the lockdowns achieve their purpose? Did they save lives? Because that was the argument of the public health experts. We have to prioritize saving lives over all other considerations. But you have this meta-analysis from Johns Hopkins economists that says, we're having trouble

looking at all the studies, concluding finding definitive evidence that the lockdowns saved lives. Then you have insurance company data. I think you've covered some of the insurance company data on excess mortality. Again, looking at maybe actually COVID lockdowns were associated with excess mortality. And then you have the National Bureau for Economic Research, also finding excess deaths during the COVID lockdowns over and above what you would have expected. So there's the real concern that they appear to have caused more harm than good. And so next time around, if anybody says extended lockdowns, your first thought should be, we tried that already. It didn't work.

What are your data to support it now? And honestly, we have no data to support it because all we have are the data that we cited in the paper that show that extended lockdowns were extremely harmful. Had devastating consequences, really, on many people in American society. I know a lot of people are watching right now saying, wow, this guy, Dr. Alvin Moss is just, you know, speaking the truth. You're saying exactly what we would expect every intelligent doctor should be saying, looking retrospectively at what we've been through. Yet you are few and far between. And every time we see someone like you step forward, it seems that your career is under threat. So I'm going to ask the question, I'm sure comments right now is, are you worried about your job?

stating which is scientifically obvious in CDC numbers, but other people like you have really seen, you know, the university they're with or the hospital system they're with really bring pressure on you. Are you nervous at all about the work that you're doing with this paper and being here on the high wire and speaking openly about it? Well, thank you for asking that question. I think my answer will answer your question. I have had discussions with the University General Counsel. My opinions are my own and not those of my employer. Okay, I hope that holds strong. I do.

We get that you're out there. Is there a takeaway as we sit here, you know, first of all, I think the number one thing I want to say to everybody out there in our audience is this is a paper. It will be in our newsletter on Monday for everybody to receive if they have our email, they can look it up themselves. This is something you can hand to all of your intelligent pro-vaccine, pro-doctor friends. There's nothing in here that I found could trigger somebody.

It's mostly what you know to be true or instinctly should know to be true, but putting it all together the way you have, I think really creates a critical mass, a movement of thought and idea that should really protect those that read it from, this mistake again. But for people that are watching right now, what is your takeaway? What is it we should be thinking and doing right now, especially in light of the fact that we are watching the news on our television start to, you know, take us back down this deep, dark hole of stupidity? Well, first, thank you for the comment about the paper. Before I get to that, let me just say lots of people have read it. pretty much people have said it's well referenced, it's well supported, it's a balanced argument. They think that people on the right or the left should be able to accept it.

And that and that as a result, it's worth, if people start talking about extended lockdowns, it's worth reviewing the information there. And by the way, Del, I should just mention, Jeffrey Jackson hasn't covered this yet. On August 15th, Dr. Anthony Fauci spoke at Wayne State University. He was interviewed and he was arguing that the COVID lockdown in New York City was absolutely justified and he was saying that lockdowns may be necessary to really until everybody's vaccinated. He didn't say we're going to use it as a club to get everybody vaccinated, but you could sort of infer from the way he said it that they he viewed a lockdown as a highly effective

tool for his agenda, which appeared to be in part to get everybody vaccinated. So I think my message would be this is balanced. We tried, honestly, our reviewers were very tough on us. The editor-in-chief and the managing editor were great. They really helped us revise and revise and polish and polish this article because I think they wanted it to be a persuasive tool, if you will, to help people understand the damage caused by the lockdowns and why we don't want to do a lockdown again.

Okay. So I think that would be the match. We don't want to do this again. It was horrible. It had devastating consequences. Are they starting to wear masks? Are you seeing any of this at your hospital? Or is the writing on the wall?

Is that where we're heading again? I have seen more masks. They're not mandatory. Nothing has been said about them being mandatory. So I'm hopeful that we won't, you know, jump the gun and start panicking before we even know if these new variants are really a threat or not. You know, it seems like you always talk about a lack of science. If I could just digress, there was an ad that I just saw recently where they're saying,

get your new home test, get your home test kit for COVID. But we really don't know if these home test kits are going to work against these new variants or not. Right. You know, we're pushing these things before we know if they're really going to work. And I love to quote the Cleveland Clinic studies because they've been very helpful. You know, one of their most recent studies showed that the bivalent vaccine didn't work against the Omicron XB variant. So if they're saying get the vaccine, get the vaccine, you might want to ask,

which vaccine is it that you were planning to give me? Why should I get a vaccine that doesn't work? And we actually don't even know if the vaccines they're pushing now are going to work against, what is it, the EG5 or the EG6 or? whatever the current earth's theory variant is. So I think the other take-home message is people should continue to ask questions, ask lots of questions. Would you agree?

I would agree. So from your lips to our audience's ears, continue to ask questions and read this incredible work that you put together. I think it's going to be a great tool for waking up our friends and family and maybe even our doctors, taking to your doctor's office and hand it off so that we can. can spread the word. Dr. Alvin Moss, I want to thank you for taking the time. I want to thank you for being brave. I hope that your, you know, your boss stands by the fact that you have your own voice, you're allowed your own voice, and I recognize you're not speaking for them,

you're speaking for yourself, but it's in a very important voice, and I want to thank you for taking the time to do the work and for joining us today to talk about it. You're welcome. All right. You take care. I'll see you soon. Bye bye. All right. Well, I mean, we've basically covered it. This is one of those shows. We tend to like to try and break things up, but I think this is really important.

I think we all have to be on top of this. We cannot go down this road again. We have vaccines that don't work. They never worked. I don't care which bi-valent, valent, whatever variant you think you're getting. It didn't work to begin with. It's only ruining your immune system. It's putting your children at risk.

is probably incubating this virus and making it everything that virus ever dreamt of being. So there is a lot that we have to focus on. Luckily, one of the things that I think to myself is how many people that went for it the first time won't go for the second time? How many people have heard the boy cry wolf a lot? And this is what they're saying on social media. Word has it that they're planning another lockdown upon us middle of September. There's going to be another lockdown again. There's a new COVID wave and mass should be worn again.

Rumor is Canada's going into another full-blown lockdown. The government is spending millions of dollars on COVID-19 equipment and hiring their so-called safety advisors. That is the recipe to destroy your country, is to shut it down. All hell is about to break loose, and I'm not playing no more. I hope that people understand that we have a nice opportunity here to say, We're not doing it. Are you gonna wear musk?

I am definitely not gonna freaking wear musk. And when they try their overreach again, like a bully in the playground, we let him know very clearly, not a fucking chance. Compliance with tyranny comes at a much higher cost than resisted to tyranny. My family and I, we didn't participate the first time around, so we're definitely not gonna participate round two.

I didn't follow their lockdowns the first time, and I am sure as heck not following them the second time. We are gonna start a movement. I am not putting my kids in a freaking mask and neither should you. I'm going to get ahead of the bandwagon and just say I'm not complying. I'm totally done with this circus that they're putting on. If you stood down in 2020, please stand up in 2023. We're going to lock down again, bro. We don't get a fuck about no new COVID-Spring United States government. I am not locking down. I refuse to comply. I'm not masking up again.

I'm not staying home for the greater good. not going to happen. No. No, there's the word of the day, no. Nope. I'm done. Are you done? I'm sick of it, man. I'm sick of it. I will not do it again. Y'all can take your face past and shove him right up here. I'm going to say this as simple and as American as I can. No. Well, you know, we're all going to have to find our own way forward. One of the things I want to make clear, no matter how we speak about this, It's really hard to not talk about like using warring words, like, it's time for a revolution. We've got to fight back. We've got to push back.

I want to make it clear that never, ever on this show am I referring to being violent in any way. I believe that what we're talking about is a revolution of thinking and a revolution of thought. And that is the most important thing. I believe in civil disobedience. Martin Luther King, Gandhi, many before us have always proved that that worked. So when we talk about not complying, do that in a peaceful, brilliant way. Many people have been arrested, and that is part of the protest. But let's make sure that we do this in a peaceful way.

Should it get crazy? Should this happen? I want to just say a great event. Many of you like to see me speak live. I've been so busy that I haven't been able to do it as often as I like. But tomorrow I'm going to be in Kansas for Freedom Revival in the Heartland. This is going to be an incredible event Friday and Saturday, the Embassy Suites in Hilton and Olath, Kansas. Yes, sharing the stage up there, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., dynamic speaker, amazing what he's up to, but some other great speakers, Brian Hooker, Mary Holland, Jim Mehan, John Little.

Polly Tommy, my co-producer from Vaxe and Ernest Ramirez, it's going to be a spectacular event. If you're within hundreds of miles of this event, you should get there. plan on really bust and loose, celebrating freedom, making sure that we, you know, have that energy as we move forward, no matter how crazy this world gets. There's only so much that the high wire can do. There's only so much that any leader can do for you. We've just had the Republican debates yesterday. I think as we start going into a political season, there should be one major question.

Will you destroy our jobs and lock us down? for no reason. Do viruses really mean that we should just destroy lives? Do I not to get my own choice and how, and my own decisions about my health and whether I want to go to work or not? That should be the number one question because so much of what we're looking at now, whether it's the inflation that is making bread and eggs and milk crippling for many in America. They talk about so many people or making $5,000 less than they actually need to survive. I have people in my own family that said, Del, I'm starting to put basic bills on credit cards.

All of that is coming out of the lockdowns. And I will be honest with you, Donald Trump locked us down. Joe Biden locked us down. No matter how big a hero we're looking for, everyone that seems to get into that gated city in Washington, D.C., either loses their minds or is bought out or sells out for some reason. We need to try and find somebody that won't sell out that will represent our voices as we move forward in these incredible times. So important, especially on the local levels, main, your school boards, look how powerful they were during the last COVID pandemic.

Are you getting on a school board? Start running for school board president. Get involved in this system. We cannot wait. And most of all, just the fact that they're running these masks, you know, statements on mainstream news unabashedly like morons, lemmings, running themselves over a cliff. First of all, you should never listen to that news agency again. Boycott any news agency that tells you it's time to mask up. Just like you should boycott any university that tells you need to vaccinate or mask up. These are uneducated individuals, especially journalists that are supposed to do their own investigations and clearly are not. Any doctor you see telling you to wear a mask or get vaccine walk out of their office immediately. They clearly don't know how to do their own research,

so therefore you shouldn't be putting your body in their hands. I'm not against all doctors, just stupid ones. Find yourself a good doctor while you have time. Find a doctor that stood up to begin with and is still going to stand up, is going to stand up for you. Find a politician that's going to stand up for you. But more importantly, stand up yourself. Stand up yourself. yourself, start enrolling everybody you know to the truth. Show them the studies on mass. If you are not on our newsletter, what are you doing here? If you can't hand over science, then you're not getting the biggest tool that we have to give you actual facts and science.

We need to wake people up because here's the point. The fact that they're running these statements of mass and want to take us back in means they still think they outnumber us. They still think we're the minority. There's only one way we stop this. There's only one way we prove them wrong. And that's by making everyone we know stand up with us. It's time to stand side by side, not just say by ourselves, oh hell no, but a cacophonous, resounding, gigantic scream and roar.

Hell no! We will not do this again. We are the citizens of the United States of America. We are the beacons of light and hope and freedom and liberty for the entire world. If we go down, the world goes down. This is our time. This is our voice. We will not be fooled again.

And for all the facts and truth that help you wake up your friends, we'll be here next week, every week, as long as we have the voice to speak. I'll see you. next week