The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 336: TINDERBOX

Episode Date: September 8, 2023

UK Data Shows Teens Dying in Excess; Jefferey Jaxen Reports on a new study suggesting the COVID shot is altering kids’ immune systems, and Yesterday’s Tree Huggers Are Today’s Tree Burriers?; New Book Let’s The Science on Vax-Unvax Speak For Itself; Is Geo-Engineering Adding Fuel To The Forest Fires? Guests: Edward Dowd, Brian S. Hooker, Ph.D., PE, Dane WigingtonBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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you are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out onto the high wire. Well, you know, we have done a lot of reporting on COVID and the pandemic and whether or not it's in a rearview mirror or whether it's coming out in the future, what's really going on. But we're hearing a lot of conversations about masks coming back. And we're hearing a lot of conversations talking about vaccines and children. This is what that looks like in the news. Another big step toward getting out of the pandemic and back to normal life. The FDA is expanding its emergency use authorization for the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine to include children ages 12 through 15.

This is a big deal. Moderna announcing that their vaccine is 100% effective in trials for kids aged 12 to 17. COVID-19 vaccine has been approved for children ages 5 to 11 years old. The CDC Vaccine Advisory Committee unanimously voted its recommendation. Committee members said the protection offered by the vaccines outweighs its risk. We now know, based on rigorous scientific review, that the vaccines available here in the United States can be used safely and effectively in children under five. Some of the youngest Americans are now one giant step closer to being protected from the virus. The FDA authorizing Pfizer and Moderna vaccines for children as young as six months.

There were no serious safety concerns that were flagged in either Moderna or Pfizer, which is reassuring for those, for those of us who want to make sure that anything we offer our children is as safe as possible. Getting your child vaccinated is safe and will help them stay in school with their friends so they can continue to learn. In Phoenix, one school district gave away backpacks to entice students. And as of this week, vaccines are available at select Chicago public schools. CPS canceled classes to make sure that they are giving parents time to get their children vaccinated. CPS is calling next Friday vaccine awareness. They say maybe we can get a lot of children through sports physicals. You want to play sports,

you want to play baseball, volleyball. My hope is that parents will take advantage of the vaccine and get their kids vaccinated. Parents, caregivers, and health care providers can trust that both of these vaccines have been authorized with science and safety at the forefront of our minds. I just want to ask you a quick question. After you watched virtually everyone in your government make that statement on the news over the last couple of years, years making vaccines available to younger and younger children, telling you that this is the way forward, this is how we're going to get out of this. They're perfectly safe, perfectly effective, 100% effective. After saying all those things, if that ended up not being true, what do you think would happen?

Do you think those same officials from the government will come back to you say, whoops, our bad, our mistake, we were wrong, as it turns out, it's not safe and it's not effective? I mean, really ask yourself, what happens in the United States of America, if all the those people you just saw decided they had made a colossal mistake, that they had taken a virus that literally doesn't kill any healthy child in America, the death rate being somewhere around 0.003% for the healthy, let me sure I got that right, I'm sorry, 0.0027%. There it is between the ages of 0 and 19. That's a zero in any math class in any elementary school in this country. So why did they need a vaccine? Why did they push it so hard? And if they made a mistake,

would they tell you? And then let me ask you this. How would you know if they did make a mistake? How would you know that it actually wasn't safe? Where would you find it? Because clearly, clearly, if you were a thinking person and you know how governments work and you know that public confidence and getting reelected

depends on you believing and who just spoke to you and who's running your country. So if they did make a colossal mistake and they tried to bury it, how would they bury it? Would they tell you how they were burying it? And where would you find the little pieces, the little truths that maybe start putting together a story that you say, my God, my God, it looks like my government has made a

decision that may be putting my children and our children at severe risk, and they're continuing to make that in doubling down. How would you know it? What would you look for? What you would look for is something that we have been telling you about before any of this really happened. Way back when we were reporting on this two years ago, I said, you watch all cause mortality because they won't be able to hide that. Children and adults ending up in morgues, that is what we will be counting to see if there's been a shift in this country, if there's been a shift in this world. Well, one of the people that's been looking at that just from a financial perspective and looking at the numbers and the death rates, because that's what he's done when he's invested in companies as

one of the executives from Black Rock. Of course, I'm talking about Edward Dowden. He joins me now. Hi, Del. Hi. Hi, Ed. And it's great to have you here. And I have to have you here. And I have to say that you know you're one of my favorite guests because you get to the point and you're really clear but i think this may be one of the most disturbing reasons i've had to have you on this show i don't know why but when we talk about children there's something really especially important here definitely when we think about COVID and we think about the fact that kids had zero risk zero risk of dying from this virus if we did something that put them at greater risk then shame on all of us So you have some breaking news here that I think that we all need to take a look at very seriously.

Sure. In my book, Cause Unknown, we highlighted a smoking gun, which is the children in the UK, because their excess deaths were going down with lockdowns because accidental death is the largest cause of death in 114. And then the vaccines in the UK were introduced around the November timeframe and their excess deaths, which were negative, started rising. And they went up to about 16% in 2022. And as of June of this year, we've annualized the 2023 numbers through excess death is now 23%. So they went down into the lockdowns and then they started rising with the administration of the vaccine. Now, people could say it's not the vaccine, but whatever health response has occurred in the UK, more children are dying ages, one through 14 excessively than were before the,

pandemic and before all the measures they took. So, you know, look, I'm a thinking guy, and we have data on our website that looks at all sorts of different countries, disabilities. The data is in, and the vaccine is the cause. And on Wall Street, we do the analyst mosaic, and this is what we're doing. And we think at the very least, the global government should start investigating this. And if they don't, they're in cover-up mode. And that's all we need to know.

I just keep thinking about when we have an alarm. news media system, right, that will say things like deadly rainstorm coming. Swear to God, I've heard that on major news agencies. Any story that can strike fear in your minds or really make you panic gets news, they inflate it. When we see any rise in child death in nations like the UK, First World Nations, you would imagine that this would be a top headline in every single major news station, especially if they knew what was causing it or wanted to speculate. When they are not covering this story at all, that's what really just sends red flags going crazy for me. And then I think about why would the news not report it unless it was being caused by the very thing they promoted for the last three years that the media stations did and our government agencies.

Now, let me just ask you the question because you've already sort of stated it, but people will say, and the science is going to try and say it's COVID that's actually killing these children. or it's it was the lockdowns and we didn't take care of the cancer that we didn't catch. I mean, those are the things that are going to say, right? It was the fact that they just didn't get proper medical care and we didn't see things that were going to die of in the future. I'm sure you've looked at that. How are you isolating that out? Like, what is it that's making you look at that?

Well, a couple things. Let's talk about the actual virus. Virology 101. You talked to any epidemiologist. They'll tell you that a virus-like code. over time to survive has to become less virulent in order to spread more effectively. Because if you kill the host, it doesn't spread. And this is the evolution 101.

We know for a fact that the COVID virus variants have gotten less virulent over time. We're now at Omicron and some subset variants of that. And it's basically a head cold for those who are unvaccinated. Unfortunately, the vaccinated have a tougher time with it. And we know that children, during During COVID raging in 20 in 2021 had negative excess deaths. So riddle me this, Batman. Did the virus suddenly only want to affect younger folks all of a sudden in 22 and 23?

I would say no. And in the UK, we also looked at ages 15 through 44, Gen Z and millennials, and their excess death rate went to a new high. It peaked in 21. It was thankfully coming down in 22, but it's re-accelerated to an excessive 20%. more excess mortality for this age group. So, you know, this, this to me is not a virus. It's not missed cancer screening treatments because, let's be honest, insurance companies don't pay for preventive screenings. You get a screening when you present sick and something's wrong and the doctor

investigates, then you get a test. I've never in my life had a, you know, a cancer screening appointment. That's a canard. It's a lie. Insurance companies don't pay for these expensive tests just for the heck of it. Let's look at the very first chart, just because we keep flashing these up, and I just want to sort of give a sense of what we're talking about. Just take a moment, everybody. What we're talking about is the yearly mortality for ages group 0-1 through 14. Look back in 2012.

It was pretty high. It was up there, right? But all the, whatever, however we're living in the first world, they were doing better. This is England. It's coming down, down, down, down, down. Even into 2020, it is going down, right? Then all of a sudden the vaccine enters. Remember, children got this later than everyone else somewhere around 2021.

And then all of a sudden you see the excess death shoots up. You can look at it right there, excess to the right, excess death rates and the vaccine rates. Look as the vaccines climb. So you're below. You got the zero line there to the right. The screen to your right. The zero lines where you're at. You're negative on average excess death rates there in 2000, 2021 even.

When we are in the middle of a pandemic, the excess death in children is below zero. It's below the line, the standard line we've set. But then the vaccine program ramps up. In 2021, you see it's starting to curve up. And then it maximizes by 2022. And suddenly, suddenly in 2022, you were now, you know, way up. Over 12%. I think that's looking like 14%.

And climbing, 2023, even worse. 2023, the pandemic's over. why are their children dying at higher numbers than right in the middle of this pandemic? You know, there are, I mean, at the very least, Edward, and where you're at, and I'm sure I'm at, we're speculating, you know, but you start putting all the dots together

and they are telling a very clear story. What is shocking is no one in news is asking the question and no one in our governments are answering the questions. You know, what is going on here? Lastly, for people that live in America and think, well, that's England's problem. Why is it we're always looking in English data and we're not like telling the same story in America?

Is this not happening in America? No, it's happening in America. It's showing up in the insurance actuary group life tables. My inside sorcerer tells me it's still running around 23% for millennials. It got worse in June. We also have disability data in the U.S. that showed an explosion in disabilities in June. and men, especially employed men,

put a new high in August. So something is going on where an acceleration of something is happening, disability and death-wise. We're gonna update all the countries, 2023 data, we're gonna get the US data hopefully soon. It's just that the UK data comes out quicker and seems to be better sourced than the CDC data at the moment.

Yeah, I think, you know, the leading probably scientific research country in the world, States of America. It's incredible how slow our data is, how corrupted our data is. It's almost like they're doing that on purpose. Edward Dowd, how do we follow all the brilliant work that you are doing? Because I think, you know, the data you're putting out is some of the most important in the world. It literally could affect the future generations and really the population of our planet right now. So how do we follow all the work that you're doing? You can find me on Twitter

at Dowd-Ed-Ed-Ed-Eward on Getter at Edward Dowd. Also, our website has literally, I think, we are the acts on this issue on Wall Street. We have all the data of what's going on with excess deaths, disabilities, and injuries. It's financed Technologies.com, spelled with a pH instead of an app. And also, I wrote a book, Cause Unknown, The Epidemic of Sudden Death in 21 and 22.

That's good to give to your loved one who doesn't think you know what you're talking about because I come at it from a forget the who and the why it just is. And at the very least, this phenomenon is real. And if it's not what I think it is, then you hopefully have a better answer. And if not, why the government's not talking about it. Del, to your point, this is a lie of omission at this point. The lies of omission are worse sometimes into gaslight.

You're right. And I think it's a crime. I think children are being murdered by government agencies that are now admitting the truth, that are not standing up and figure out what's going on here and actually putting real science on it and putting vaccines on the table. It is clear that they feel like their job is to protect the vaccine program

by hiding any science, stopping any science investigating this issue. They can't hide all cause mortality. And frankly, they're not stopping all the studies that we're reporting on that are happening all around the world. Science is waking up to this issue. It's really sad that government agencies, especially health agencies,

will be the last ones to admit something catastrophic has happened. here. Edward Dada, really appreciate your time. Keep up the great work and we'll be paying attention. Thank you, Dale. Take care. All right. Take care. I mean, this is where it's at, folks. I don't want you to just be watching this show and thinking, wow, that's kind of freaky. You have friends out there. You have friends who are about to do this to their kids again. We're going to get into more details on that on vaccines and what we know that it is doing to children. But first, I just want to talk about how, what a great show I've got coming up here. I'm going to be talking to Dr. Brian Hooker that was the star, one of the stars of the documentary I made that put me in the middle of this.

Vaxed. He's now written a brand new book with Robert Kennedy Jr. called Vax, unvax. It has hit the New York Times bestseller list. It's rocking. We're going to talk about that. And when we think about, you know, geoengineering, does that have anything to do with the forest fires that are going on? I'm going to talk to the King of Chemtrails. I gave him that name.

He probably hates it. But Dane Wigington is going to be joining me to talk about that issue. And some of the things that we've uncovered with our investigation. First, it's time for the Jackson Report. You know, Jeffrey, I don't know. There's something about kids. We see these numbers. We see the all-cause mortality all across the world.

We see the insurance numbers. Adults are dying. We're seeing, you know, as Edward Dowd has talked about before, you know, all the people not going to work because they have, you know, injuries, something's got them home sick, you know, all this. But when it's the kids, first of all, the kids are supposed to be being protected. They're not supposed to be used as the shields for the elderly. that are in harm's way.

Let's use children as fodder to try and protect ourselves. But most importantly, kids were never at risk. And now they are. They're at risk from science, as we call it itself. Science is attacking our children, it appears to me. It's really horrific. Yeah, and as you pointed out, we watched over the last couple years,

the legacy media and the regulatory agency, spoke to people trying to make these ends meet where they were trying to justify these vaccines for kids when they were such low risk for this virus. And just recently we had Gert Bandenbosch on, one of the most well-educated virologists, worked with Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Gabby. This is what he had to say about vaccinating kids.

Take a listen. My frustration is that the message is so difficult to convey, whereas this naive narrative that these guys are spreading is so easy for people to understand. It's basically, you know, shut up and get yourself vaccinated. and also get your kids vaccinated, which is the biggest disaster ever, because this is the biggest reservoir for herd immunity.

They have innate immunity, they can clear this virus. This is from a public health viewpoint, a disaster, not only for the child, but also, and the more children we will vaccinate, the more we will, of course, expedite this immune escape and get to this kind of variant that will not only be highly infectious, fully resistant to the vaccines, and also highly virulent, right? And that is where these guys, you know, if they don't believe me, they should simply wait and see what is going to happen.

But it will be too late. I mean, obviously, we've had him on several times. That was all the way back in 2022 that we did that interview. There was, you know, several reports he put out before that. But he has been saying all along, don't mess with the kids. as he said, this is our reservoir to catch this virus and to overcome it. He believed that the children would be the ones that got us out of this pandemic. If we did not vaccinate him, he was horrified that we would mess with their immune systems.

And so obviously we are. Just talk now about booster shots for children, brand new boosters. So what are we learning now about the COVID vaccine in kids? Other than the fact that all-cause mentality is through the roof. Yeah, so we know that the booster is allegedly going to be released in probably a week or two now, according to the CDC, the new booster. And we see a cyclical event in the media when we look at these headlines. So as kids, when we talked about this, we got to watch when the kids go back to school because that's always been a time that major events happen. So this is the headline, and it's very similar to other ones.

So this is just now schools grapple with COVID safety amid late summer surge. Now watch the languaging here. Let's go back to August of 2021. Kids are about to go back to school then. We had a pandemic going on. Here's the headline here out of the Guardian. COVID cases among children are surging in the U.S. As students head back to school.

Kids go back home for winter break in December. They go back to school in January of 2021. Look at the headline in January 2021. School nurses fear a coronavirus surge as students and staff return from winter break. 2022, same thing. They go home for winter break. They come back for winter break. January 2020. Headlines. See something is familiar from Europe to the U.S. COVID cases and children are surging. Schools aren't prepared. So you have this building and these coincide with the emergency use authorization vaccine approvals for the FDA. They're bookending these headlines. And so now we go

to March of this year, 2023, and the FDA has approved the fourth FDA authorized. is Pfizer's COVID-Amacron booster has fourth shot for kids under five. So the one coming in September here would allegedly be the fifth shot if they released that. That's not counting amino compromise people. But we just really have to look at the power of the media to shape the perception around what kind of dangers these kids are in, truly. And there's a new person at the CDC. He is the CDC's now principal deputy director, Dr. Narif Shah.

And he was the lead quote in this article in the New York Times, titled Vaccines for Fall, they have put out a guide. And this says in here, Shaw argues that children over six months old should also get a COVID shot this fall, even though their own COVID risk is very low. He says, quote, we should be thinking bigger than just ourselves, he told me. Do you want to see your grandpa? Do you want to hang out with your grandma? Are you really sure you're not going to give them, give COVID to them? This is the type of condition. Now, he came from the main. Yeah, children is human shields for the elderly. Go ahead and put your children at risk with a product that we have admitted to you publicly time and time again does not stop transmission. So I don't even understand

this argument at all. I don't understand how these fools are on television in New York Times. Where is the press calling them out? Wait a minute. Hold on a second. I get it. You're big shot now at the FDA and I'm supposed to listen to you. But was it I told it doesn't stop transmission? And why would that last sentence make any sense whatsoever saying, I'm going to protect Grandpa? How? How if this product doesn't stop transmission? Exactly. And he has a track record of this. He came from the state of Maine. He headed up the CDC in that state. And he was hiding breakthrough infections. They were doing a lot of interesting data manipulation to just hide the fact what the vaccine was causing then. But let's go back to this study that we've quoted many times in this show in 2021.

one. It's the Pfizer-MRNA vaccine against SARS-CoB2. It reprograms both the adaptive and innate immune responses. So this is something that has really, it's been a seed for us. And we look at a lot of conversation through this lens, whether it's increasing cancer, is increasing whatever illnesses. Well, this study has now been built upon, and it's been built upon in children in a new study. And this is extremely important, just speaking of everything we just spoke about up until now. The title of this study, if you want to look at it, it's Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine in children, alters cytokine responses to heterologous pathogens and tolic receptor agonis. So heterologous pathogens are just basically varying pathogens.

And the agonidus being, it would be all the same, all COVID, this is everything that's not COVID, all of the heterologians, right, okay, okay. Yeah, absolutely. And the tolech receptor agonists, but the agonists are basically something that initiates an immune response. So the cytokines that are initiating immune response are several of them. So the researchers looked at 29 kids from ages 5 to 11, and they took blood samples before their vaccine, 28 days after their second Pfizer vaccine, and then eight of the kids stayed on for six

months on this study and gave blood samples six months after vaccination. So we have a pretty big window here. And they say a couple of things here. I'm going to read a couple passages from this study then explain that. It says the main findings of our study in children are that, number one, Pfizer's vaccination alters, the FISALegas bacterial and viral cytokine responses 28 and 182 days after the primary vaccinations schedule compared to pre-vaccination. Number two, the effect of Pfizer's vaccination

on heterologous immunity persists for viral but not bacterial stimulants. So they're basically saying that over the breadth of this whole studies, they restimulated the blood with these cytokines, to see the time of responses. Over this whole study, they found that the viral, it persists for the viral, this, this alteration in the immune system. But now let's go to this next quote here. It says our study showed that in children, SARS-CoV-2MRNA vaccination decreases inflammatory cytokine responses, and there's a whole list of them there to heterologous bacterial,

fungal, and viral restimulation. So that's at the 28 days right after that, they restimulated these with bacterial viral fungal constituents, basically, and they found that it was all over the board of this reprogramming. And then finally, they can be able to be able to be. included this. Our findings, this is what they suggest. Our findings suggest SARS-CoB-2MRNA vaccination could alter the immune response to other pathogens, which cause both vaccine-preventable and non-vaccine preventable diseases. That's a really, really big statement for authors to make. They're saying there's a risk here that it could be altering these. So the researchers looked at 27 of these, like, key signaling molecules involved in mounting the immune response. And here's a picture of all of them.

And you can see there's these yellow categories. The yellow categories were something that the yellow lines and some of those were the ones that really shifted. And you can see they're shifting all over. Some of them are switching towards the off. Some of them are switching on harder. But let's look at just one of them. IL6, interleukin 6. And this is just a blown up frame here.

That dotted line in the middle is kind of the zero point. You can see on the left here, you have a lot of them switching towards off or a downright. And all of those letters in the side there, that's what they tested them against. So they stimulated with Hep B, with influenza, with E. coli, with staff bacteria. And why this is a big deal is interleukin-6. Let's look at another quick study just to describe this one cytokine. This is a study called the role of interleukin-6 in viral infections. Pretty big deal.

It says in addition to its roles modulating the host immune response, IL-6 has been implicated in the progression of several virus infections. IL-6 is considered one of the most important cytokines during an infection. So this is what we're basically down-regulating. All right, there's a lot of science. I want to try and actually simplify this a little bit, you know, and some scientists may get upset with this, but I'm going to use a couple of army men to make this point, right? Let's talk about, let's sort of act like, let's say these are like toll-like receptors.

These are guardians of your immune system, let's say, right? They're always floating around. They're looking for anything to happen. For instance, they're looking for, let's say, COVID comes along, right? They go, uh-oh, COVID. Now, they call in help. But all they are is the watch is like, hey, we need help. We mount a cytokine response, which is, let's say, interleukin 6.

A bunch of warriors, interleukin 6, big part of it, but all these different cytokines that come in and set up and surround this virus and say, okay, we got a problem. Now, they start moving in. They may even call in, you know, some killer cells or something like that. but ultimately your immune system comes in and attacks, right, takes over and, you know, kills COVID dead. That's how your immune system's supposed to work. Now they're saying that after vaccination for kids, and we've talked about this, that it seems to still be working up to 180 days later for COVID, if you're vaccinated for COVID.

But what they're saying, the problem is if it's not COVID, when it comes to all the other situations, we've talked about how this virus seems to put your, you know, these toll, like, receptors to sleep, let's just say this is like Barack and Larry, let's call them. And they're over here doing, we don't know, God knows what, but they're certainly distracted and not paying attention when E. coli comes along. Now, E. coli is wandering around out of here, but Larry and Barack are too busy doing something that we don't want to talk about. They certainly aren't taking care of this. This is what's happening in immune system of your kids. Normally, they'd be calling in, you know, a cytokine response, and your immune system would be attacking in coli, but they're not.

They're too busy, not paying attention. This is what the vaccine has done to them. They're addicted to it and they're focused on the wrong things. Same thing with Strap. Your kid, Strap comes along. Strap is crawling over your kids' arms every single day of their lives. It's all over them. It's in their mouth. You don't want them catching it.

But luckily, if they had a working immune system, if they hadn't been vaccinated, oh, these guys are awake. I'm like, whoa, we got the alkali in here. Great immune system, just like, you know, Gert Band of Bosch said. We get the response. Immune response coming in. Wipes E. E. coli dead.

Unvaccinated kids are so ready for this. doesn't stand a chance, they are all over it. But you get the COVID vaccine, and then Barack and Larry are back being distracted again, not doing their job. And what happens, now your child is vulnerable. Maybe they can die from the flu. Maybe they can die from the strep.

Maybe they die from e-coli and all these other things because the immune system's not paying attention because of what you just did to it. And is it possible that this, too, is what is leading to the rise in all-caused mortality of our children? Oh, it wasn't the vaccine. They died of the flu. Oh, it wasn't the vaccine.

They died of a really rare form of E. coli. Or I'm sure we have other headlines talking about the issues that our kids are suffering from now. Let's see CNN try to replicate that. This is why everyone watches our network when it comes to this information. So there's other studies. It's not just people who look at these studies and say, okay, to like receptors being tinkered with. this might do something for the kids immune system, but those are just a couple of studies. Well, here's another one. Epidemiology of respiratory viral infections and children enrolled

in a study of influenza vaccine effectiveness. So they're looking at influenza vaccine. They're getting immunized for influenza and they found this. We did, however, unexpectedly find that non-influenza-like illness occurred about 1.6 times more commonly in children vaccinated with one or two doses, of influenza vaccine then in unvaccinated children. These results support the findings of a recent randomized controlled trial reported by Crawley at all. Crowley's study in Hong Kong concluded that non-influenza acute respiratory infection

may be detected at a higher rate in children for a short period after they received influenza vaccine. So again, they're not talking about what's happening with the cytokines and the actual immune system. They're saying these kids after they're hyper, the immune system is a hyper focus on this influenza because of being vaccinated with this strain. Other acute respiratory infections are coming in.

Other non-influenza-like illnesses are coming. These children are catching them. So this supports that claim. But again, just studies, you know, are the real-world examples? Well, we can point to these headlines. This is from the WHO's own website. Increased in invasive group A streptococcal infections among children in Europe, including fatalities.

Another one, unexplained rise in life-threatening brain infections in children, worries pediatricians. And then this one, the CDC is still searching for the cause of mysterious liver illness and kids. This is what we're talking about. Real world evidence of big question marks. Not even the CDC knows what's going on in some of these cases. Folks, you are going to have to come to the reality that, and I hate saying this, that you can no longer trust your regulatory agencies. If your doctor is pushing the COVID vaccine on your kids, you need a new doctor immediately.

I mean, you're going to have to start finding. You've got to start searching right now because you have a more. moron overlooking your children's health. They don't know how to do research. They don't know how to look into this. They have been trained to follow. They have been brainwashed. They are zombies. They are, you know, hypnotized. Whatever the CDC says I will do, whatever the CDC says is okay. I'm sorry, that is what you are looking at when you're looking at any doctor that recommends these vaccines. Now, we have the evidence. And what are they going to do? You yet how this works, Jeffrey, right? You vaccinate for COVID, but now they're not immune to all the other things they were naturally immune to, E. coli and strep and all that.

So let's see if we can make a vaccine for strep. But then now that's just erased the immunity we had to COVID. And now, but we got to, and this is what they're doing. They're literally like vaccinated for everything they're erasing the immune system on. They're making more money. I mean, every day the pharmaceutical industry is getting paid for every new vaccine you need because you erase your immune system. They'd be happy to give you a thousand vaccines for all the immune system they've erased out of your body. I guarantee you that isn't going to work.

It's just whack-a-mole product lines for vaccine development. It's crazy. It's amazing how stupid we are as a species right now. Folks, we're supposed to be smarter than your average animal out there. We are looking really bad, really bad when we trust people that are clearly lying to us. So there's a lot of science in that section, and that was a big topic. Before we jump back into some more medical science, let's take a break for a second. And remember when the world was a little simpler, when regulatory agencies weren't trying to vaccinate children with their fifth vaccine.

The good old days when all you had to do was plant a tree. Remember this? Plant a tree for your tomorrow. It's your tree to clear these for America. Plant a tree today for all the world to share. Taste the breeze. life inside you make a promise to the earth. Plant a tree now is the time to recognize a tree for all that it is worth.

Plant a tree for your tomorrow. Plant a tree. Plant a tree. Trees for America. Glad a tree today for all the world to share. Trees for America. You know you remember that one. I do. Yes.

You know, it was so simple back then. You just plant a tree and that's what you had to do. But it's impossible that John Denver and all those early environmentalists were wrong? We didn't really have to plant a tree. We actually had to chop down a tree. And this is what the headlines are talking about. Now, the new thing, the latest thing with the climate narrative, chopped down forests to save the planet.

Maybe not as crazy as it sounds. It says in here, yes, the conventional idea is to plant trees, to soak up carbon dioxide from the air and to then sell credits to corporations, private jet owners, and others who need or want to offset their emissions. But scientists say burying trees can reduce global warming as well, particularly if those trees would otherwise end up burning or decaying, spewing their stored carbon in the air. So that is the new narrative. Instead of letting these burns, there's so many fires. Now, these trees act as like these carbon storehouses when they're alive.

when they're doing their job. When they're doing their job and they're storing carbon, but let's do this. Let's kill them so they keep the carbon inside of them. Before they burn and release it all in the air, because that's just dumping this all and just kind of defeating the whole purpose of what we're trying to do here.

And it's interesting who's backing this. So we find out this. A stealth effort to bury wood for carbon removal has just raised millions. Who is it? 6.6 million from Bill Gates' climate fund. No, really? That's a shocker.

And the climate fund interesting thing is called Breakthrough Energy Ventures. And so you're thinking, wow, they're really trying to find new ways to power the planet. No, it's just to reduce carbon. And that's what's going on here. And so this isn't just an isolated incident. It's like Bill Gates is running a think tank. World's worst ideas funded here. It's outrageous.

Think your idea. Have your idea been turned down by every intelligent person on the planet? Come to me. I'll fund it. Right. It's all the who's who billionaires. You have Jeff Bezos. in there. It's a really interesting roster. But this isn't the only kind of window we're seeing

into this idea. So in Scotland, this is the headline just recently, Scottish National Party admits to felling 16 million trees to develop wind farms in Scotland. So there's wiping out for us to put up these windmills that we've covered before are not the most efficient thing in the world when it comes to power generation. But let's bring, let's now talk about, we're talking about the carbon question. Let's talk about a guy named Dr. John Classer. He's a physicist. He's a Nobel Prize winner. He's on the board of directors of an organization called the CO2 Coalition. CO2 Coalition doesn't really believe in the narrative that we need to lower CO2.

They're saying that this isn't really a big of an issue as it seems. They have a chart on their website. This is one of several, and it says our current geologic period, the cordonary, has the lowest average CO2 levels in the history of the Earth. And you can see there on the far right, that's the corner right. That's the time we know. time period. And that timeline is about 2.5 million years ago to present date. So that's, yeah, obviously a big chunk here. But we're talking geologic cycles here. And it's really

interesting because we had Congressman Thomas Massey at a House oversight hearing. He was able to question at the time former Secretary of State John Kerry. And this is how that went on the conversation of CO2. Okay. Let me ask you this. What's the consent? on parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere? About 406, 406 today? Okay, 406. Are you aware that the 350 being the level that scientists have said is dangerous?

Okay. Are you aware? 350 is dangerous. Wow. Are you aware that since mammals have walked the planet, the average has been over a thousand parts per million? Yeah, but we weren't walking the planet. Let me just share with you that we now know that definitively, we now know that definitively, that definitively at no point during the least the past 800,000 years has atmospheric CO2 been as high as it is today.

The reason you chose 800,000 years ago is because for 200 million years before that, it was greater than it is today. And I am going to submit for the record. Yeah, but there weren't human beings. I mean, there was a different world, folks. We didn't have 7 billion people. So how to get to 2,000 parts per million if we humans weren't here? Because there were all kinds of geologic events happening on Earth which spewed up. Did geology stop when we got on the planet? You know, I voted for John Kerry.

I am, you know, I've said it before. I grew up a pretty rabid liberal. And I still going to say it again, I want clean air, clean water, clean food supply. I think every human being on this planet wants that. but this is crazy. I mean, this, and it is, it's a really perfectly good argument. If mankind is causing global warming and CO2 is the main greenhouse gas that causes that, what was causing the CO2 gas problem when mankind wasn't making it when it was higher throughout time?

And by the way, plants like that we need to live on that capture the sun and turn into our food and feed the animals and everything that we eat need. CO2 to live. So these greenhouse gas, I mean, it's just crazy. And now that they're living off of it, we're going to kill them so that they don't release it. This is beyond madness. I mean, it's impossible to think that they're this stupid. I mean, in many ways, you think start crossing your mind. Like, my God, are these people from this planet? Are we being harvested for some sort of different atmosphere? I mean, what is the agenda here? Clearly, clearly, it cannot be a healthier environment.

Because I would imagine before human beings were ever here, I'll bet if I dropped on this planet like during the dinosaur age and was running around. I don't think that COT was killing me. Think everything was green and lush. When I remember the pictures I grew up with anyway, seemed like a really vibrant time to be alive as any animal on this planet.

And the bottom line is clearly there's two sides of this conversation. And one side is a lot of the press captured, a lot of the scientific journals capture. You can't really get your stuff published in there unless you sign on to this really aggressive climate narrative. And so this is what we saw with Dr. John Classer, Nobel Prize winner, part of the CO2 coalition. He was going to give a speech at the IMF. And this is what happened when they found out his stance on climate.

Nobel Prize winner who doesn't believe climate crisis has speech canceled. We went over this before. But you're seeing a very similar targeting of people. They're just taken out of the conversation if they don't believe the narrative, which is not how we do science or debate. So this is why this conversation really has to continue. And so one of the questions here, now moving back into some of the science here is Alzheimer's. We have about over six million people in the U.S. of varying ages. A lot of people over 65 with Alzheimer's. This is a terrible neurodegenerative disease. And some new information has come out from this. And there's been,

obviously, the science around it has been in question now for about a year because there was potential fraud in the initial studies showing what really caused Alzheimer's. Putting that aside, we have a study, this is a Swedish study, and it's called SARS-CoV-2 spike amyloid fibrales, specifically and selectively accelerate amyloid fibral formation of human prion protein and the amyloid beta peptide. Whoa, that's a lot of words. So we're going to break this down here because this is a really significant study. So far up until now, we've had case studies, a man with Parkinson's disease that was accelerated after the COVID shot. Just single studies. Obviously people will say less, obviously a case study,

but now we're having these tabletop exercises, these bench work exercises, and this is one of them. So the researchers write this. An increasing number of reports suggest an association between COVID-19 infection and initiation or acceleration of neurodegenerative diseases, including Alzheimer's disease and Croatsville-Yakup disease. Both these diseases and several other neurodegenerative diseases are caused by conversion of human proteins into a misfolded, aggregated amyloid fibral state. So let's just pause there for a minute. What does that mean?

We have an animation here. Just give the viewers an idea of this. So you have these fibrils there. There are these long strings. There's these peptide proteins. And those fold, they misfold. And eventually they form like a tumbleweed kind of thing. That's an amyloid fibril clump.

And those get parked in the neurons of the brain causing the, is causing it to misfire, basically damaging the brain and bringing on these, this is the explanation of Alzheimer's that science knows, bringing on Alzheimer's or these these neurodegenerative diseases. So just keeping that in mind there. So what the researchers did in this study is they created their own amyloid fiber chunks derived from the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. So they seeded it with the spike protein and so they say this in the conversation in this paper we here provide evidence of significant spike amyloid fibral seeded acceleration of amyloid formation in cruzfeld-yacob disease associated human prion proteins using an in vitro just so you know that crucefeld jacob and this human prion just remember mad cow

disease everybody or you know cannibals when they eat each other they get a brain disease this is what we're talking about is this misfolding of cells that we now call prions or prion disease. This is what we're talking about being accelerated by the spike protein. Right. Those things should not be accelerating in development, these human prion proteins. So it said here, by seeding the human prion protein H-U-P-R-P conversion assay with other in vitro-generated disease associated amyloid fibros, we demonstrate that this is not a general effect, but a specific feature of spike amyloid fibrals. We also show that the amyloid fibral formation

of Alzheimer's disease associated amyloid beta 1-4-2 was accelerated by spike amyloid fibral seeds. So they found that the human prion proteins were, the amyloid betas associated with Alzheimer's disease were sped up in these, essentially these petri dishes when they put these spike amyloids in there, it act as like a catalyst. So the conclusion of these researchers, just say this, albeit purely in vitro, our data suggests that cross- For our folks that are like new to our show outside the body, right? So in a petri dish, not inside the body. This is a study done of blood and cells and things outside of the body. Go ahead. Yes, correct, correct. And these are just basic, we're just starting the science here. So you think to yourself, didn't the research the regulatory agencies already have the science done? No, they didn't. So we're at the genesis, the beginning of just trying to understand this. They said, I'll be it in-eat-eat-eat-eat. Trow. Our data suggests that cross-seeding by spike amyloid fibros can be implicated in the increasing

number of reports of CGD and AD that's Christopher Jacob disease and Alzheimer's disease and possibly other neurodevelopmental diseases in the wake of COVID-19. So they're saying this is plausible. This is obviously just a table talk of exercise in some test tubes, but it's beyond a case study at this point of individual case studies. And so they're saying that this might be a plausible explanation, a mechanism, if you will, for what's happening here. So this is, obviously we're covering some really big studies here with the children and their immune systems and now this study here. But this is something that really people need.

We're building upon the science as this vaccine, unfortunately, is out now for the fifth dose if you're a child, eighth dose, if you're immunocompromise adult. But it's building and this is important. I mean, it's super important. The idea, and look, some of these studies, to be clear, if you're reading correctly, They're talking about spike protein. This could also be in a natural infection, I'm sure, as along with the vaccine. You know, the issue that we have, Jeffrey, is that we are not catching COVID every, you know, six months, if you will.

And for those of us that have immune systems, our immune systems fighting it really fast, kicking it out, cashing out of the system. So it doesn't have time. These spike proteins aren't having time, hopefully, in the unvaccining, those of those with healthy immune systems, to find purchase where they might start affecting it. affecting cell lines all over our body. But remember, the vaccine brags about the fact that it creates, it's sending more spike protein into your body than any natural infection would. And they're bragging about then how it makes all of these antibodies. And there's studies now showing, you know, the fact that it's lingering, that the way they've altered the spike protein,

it lasts long on the body. We've talked about the pseudoridine. So with the vaccine, you have the same problems with more of it in your body, more often. Often because you're injecting it every time these morons tell you get a booster shot. And then they've made it so that it lingers in the body and last longer than the natural spike protein or RNA would. And so these are the issues with the vaccine. It does everything longer, harder, faster. And when that means problems, that means a problem for the people that keep getting these things. It's really amazing.

I'm just wondering what our population looks like 10, 15, 20 years down the road. We look at these Edward Dowd numbers. When you look at what we now know what you're talking about, when we're destroying kids' immune systems and making them vulnerable to all the usual, you know, household bacterias that are all over the place, now they're going to be the boy in the bubble unable to walk down the street healthy and people dying.

And what about we've talked about the cancer's being increased? I mean, I swear to God, you know, you would imagine if a mastermind had developed a product that when injecting the body accelerates all, the worst things in you. All of your cancer cells get accelerated to cancer. All of the little amyloid plaques get accelerated to mad cow disease or Khrushchak Jacob or however you say that one. I mean, it's really quite shocking and causing heart issues and anaphylaxis and all the other issues. Jeffrey, I mean, I hope people are sharing the news that they have to come here and get

the science. But it's really, really important you're doing such great work. Really scary stuff. Thank you, Del. And hopefully we'll have some really positive news next week. But like you said, at the very least, it's reckless to keep this vaccination program going. So hopefully we can see some type of intervention very soon. Yes. Well, thank you. I'll see you next week. You know, look, yeah, it's really negative news. The positive news is all actually, I'm going to be interviewed, I think, by like Politica or one of these newspapers, magazines later today that want to know, you know,

they want me to talk about the increase in the amount of you that have started watching our show since COVID, what COVID did to our bottom line and all of those things. And yes, you're sharing these stories. You're helping us bring lawsuits. You are the reason we know what's going on with the Pfizer trials. The FDA wanted to hold back the Pfizer data for 75 years because they love us that much. And they're just that transparent with their science. They thought 75 years would be the perfect amount of time to just let the truth incubate before we get to see it. But because of the work that you do. We were able to get the V-safe data. Aaron Ciri went out and got the Pfizer data, the Moderna data. Those are the things that we're doing. We also are fighting battles like bringing

back the religious exemption to Mississippi so that even if they try to mandate this insane vaccine on your children and destroy their lives forever, you can now say, sorry, my God does not allow me to be that effing stupid. Sorry, I'm not playing the game here. I'm gonna stick with a God who actually made my children's bodies capable of living on the planet as it exists. Because of all of that work, so many of you've been crying out, like what's happening with the rest of the states? Well, we just had a legal announcement that has gone out. Breaking news, ICANN is supporting religious exemption lawsuits in every state that does not have one for K through 12 students. What this means, and we're always working on this, but we have a lot of pots.

There's a lot of different towers of places where we are fighting with the informed consent action network. And we spent the last week because I've said to you, you know, we have raised exactly the same amount of money as we raised last year. That's awesome. Clearly, we are, you know, these are difficult times. I get it for all of you that are hanging in there and supporting us. That's great.

But because we want to grow and we have to decide what we can and can't do, we're sort of making buckets for all these things. Where are we going to be focused? One of the things that we said we definitely have to stay focused on is making sure that there is a religious exemption available for every state in the United States of America. We're picking a choosing. Now, if more of you want to fund and help us out, we won't have to be so choosy, but this is one thing we can guarantee you. We have already won back to religious exemption in Mississippi. We are currently bringing cases in West Virginia and New York.

That leaves Connecticut and Maine and California that are hanging in. in the balance there and you're all wondering, well, what's happening there? I want to explain something, especially California, because I come from California, and I know a lot of you are itching just to run a case there, but you are behind in the World Series of scientific information and understanding.

California is like way, way behind. In fact, if this is the World Series, you're at least, you know, three points behind. There's three runs ahead for the CDC and against you, which means, sure, we could all rush over to California right now, run a case, but we're going to bring out our best hitter. Aaron Siri, the only one, by the way, the only one to ever return a religious exemption in this country.

This guy is the best there is. Now, maybe other copycats out there that want to jump and say, I want to try to do what Aaron did. I think I can hit it as far. Will you please stop all those people right now? Please stop just for a second and hear me out. I don't want to bring Aaron Siri to bat and hit a one-run home run when you need three runs in order to win this thing or four in California. So here's what we're doing. We need to load the bases. This is how this works. This is part of the strategy. I'm going to simplify it for you.

We're loading the bases. We win in Mississippi. We win in West Virginia if we can. We win in Connecticut. We win in the other places because we have got to beat the big bad guy, the giant sea of morons that are running California. We need to come up and bring Aaron Siri to bat when we have everyone on base, when we have now got the ability to win and win with force. This is a part of the strategy. So though we are saying we're investing right now, our funding is going into the strategy. The legal teams are putting it all together. This is what we mean not to, you know, confuse it out.

There's five holdout states that remain. One is down. We're in two more right now and we're coming for California. Everybody be patient. Hang in there. There are strategies. Believe it or not, we are strategizing how we're going to pull off the things we do. That's why we are one of the few nonprofits in the world that has ever won.

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And I'm telling you this. I don't want to have to have meetings like I did last week and say, you know what, that's a great lawsuit. But let's just put that aside for the moment. Let's stay focused where we know we're winning. I don't want to branch off into a new space because, frankly, there's a lot of people watching this show right now, but they just don't feel like it's necessary for them to donate. That's okay.

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Pick the amount that you want to be a recurring donor. Recurring donor is great because it helps us know what we can venture into and what we can't. We're going to have meetings to think about what we're going to do with everything you decide to donate today. $23 for $20.23 would be great, but $1 would do something too. First of all, it would make you feel really. good every time we tell you about the next state that's going to have to allow you to make your own decisions for your own children's bodies. Imagine that. And meanwhile, while we are going after those states, we're going to be fighting in every other state to make sure that they don't try to take your rights away. That's just a part of what we do on the most interesting

and unique news program in the world. Do you know another news program that takes your donations? Not from Exxon, not from Pampers, not from Tylenol, not from Pfizer or Moderna, just from you, our viewers. Half, nearly half of everything that you bring you here to make us, you know, this beautiful set. And to do our research that we bring to you is going to fighting in courtrooms for the things that we're uncovering with our research. It's a unique experiment. It's working. I want to thank everybody that has made that possible. All right. Moving on, when we look at children being vaccinated with a vaccine that clearly doesn't work, and now we see that their immune systems are down, and you see that, geez, there's a rise in children that are dying. There's more children dying this year than last in the year before that. We've been through all of that.

But someone will say, well, that could just be a natural background occurrence. Who knows what it is? How do you know it's the vaccine or it's not? Well, one really easy way to have figured this out would have been to track a bunch of kids, that didn't get the vaccine, like let's say, I don't know, 40,000 of them. And then 40,000 that did get the vaccine in every booster with it. And let's just follow them for like 10 years. And let's see if the all-cause mortality that's going like this is only happening in one of the groups. Or is it happening to both of them?

Then we can say, well, certainly the vaccine wasn't the issue. It's called the Vax versus Unvax Study. And there's a brand new book coming out. Who's it written by Robert Kennedy Jr. and Dr. Brian Hooker, who is the star of the movie that put me in the middle of this entire conversation. Vaxed, here's just a clip for those of you that may have never seen it. Take a look. Hello? I was sitting at my desk where I teach at Simpson University. My phone rings, and it's Dr. William Thompson.

Brian, you and I don't know each other very well. I don't know how this is all going to play out. You have a son with autism, and I have great shame now. when I meet families with kids with autism because I have been part of the problem. My son, Stephen, was born in February of 1998. Two weeks after his 15-month vaccines, then he lost all language. He lost all eye contact. This is a time where CDC was just starting to do these studies on vaccines and autism. As a scientist, I have over 60.

technical and scientific publications and major international scientific journals. And I was contacting the CDC and was deeply critical of their studies. And so the CDC decided that the scientist who was going to interface with me at that time was Dr. William Thompson. Thompson said to me, Brian, if you listen to me and if you do what I tell you to do, I can guarantee you will be able access a treasure trove of data. And I would like to guide you through these steps. When I originally got the MMR autism data, I looked first of all at males versus females.

Then I looked at black males. Those African Americans that got the MMR on time were 2.64 times more likely to get an autism diagnosis than those African Americans that received the MMR after three years of age. The analysis was the human. eight on the Richter scale earthquake that just shook through the CDC. I actually think the most interesting results are the elevated ones for the isolated, ones that don't have other comorbid conditions.

The effect is where you would think it would happen. When Bill Thompson ran those numbers, he saw an astronomical effect. Some of the numbers were actually the relative risks were as high as seven or eight times higher with these kids that were diagnosed with just isolated autism, no other diagnosis, versus those controls. Literally, everyone else got rid of all their documents. So the only documents that exist right now from that study are mine. There was a dramatically different result presented before and after the time frame that Thompson alleged that these data were destroyed. I filed a formal complaint to the Office of Research Integrity and the Department

of Health and Human Services. I heard back not long after the complaint was filed and the letter basically stated that every co-author except for Dr. Thompson denied that any material was destroyed or thrown away. They were calling Dr. Thompson a liar. It was their word against his. These senior people just do completely unethical, vile things, and no one holds accountable. These senior people just do vile, unethical things. True words have never been spoken if you've been watching this entire show. For those of you that haven't seen Vax, it's really simple. You can find it on our website.

It's now free. Whenever you want, just type in Vax, from cover up to catastrophe. And search, and there it is, for free for you to watch. I recommend that you have everyone you know watch. People ask me, you know, where should I start? with this conversation. I think that movie is a great place to start. Just say, come on over. We got some pop and we have a movie for you to watch. Another thing you could do is maybe start with this brand new book. Fax. Unvax. Let the science speak. This is by Dr. Brian Hooker and Robert

Kennedy Jr. It's already climbing the charts at the New York Times. New York Times has got it, I think, at number 11 now, which is amazing. I think it's one week out and look at it. It's already skyrocketing up there. Probably because of the guys. that wrote the forward this guy named del big treat it's an incredible forward on this book but i want to talk to the writer of the book dr brian hooker uh brian first of all every time i watch that footage i think i have you to blame for putting me in the middle of this incredible journey i'm in well uh i'm so glad that you did and it's del it's an honor to be on your show always uh thank you so much You just, you know, I'm kind of getting misty, bringing back memories of the time that we spent together when you got that interview footage.

And you and your film crew were so gracious to my family and my son. So appreciative. Boy, that's a blast from the past. That was like seven years ago. Yeah, isn't that amazing? It feels like 20. I think you look great. I turned silver in that time, but you still look fantastic.

But look, this is something that we've been talking about for a really long time, right? It's one of the things that we keep saying to the CDC and the NIH, why won't you just do a Vaxe versus un-VAC study? We know of the Mawson studies that have done polling of people. We know you worked with Dr. Paul and putting together the Vax versus Un-Vax studies there, Paul Thomas. But this is a little different. Tell me about what this is. How do you have a book full of the study that we believe is almost never happening? What do you got inside of here?

Well, the story, Dell, actually begins with you. And a meeting that you had with Robert Kennedy Jr. In 2017, you were joined by Aaron Siri and Lynn Redwood, and you met with one Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins in the executive office at the National Institutes of Health. And you and your cohort, along with Mr. Kennedy, we're asking, where are the studies? Where have you done unvaccinated controls?

Where have you done a valid study where you look at those children following the vaccination schedule and those children who didn't get vaccinated? And of course, Fauci swore up and down. Yes, those studies were there. You know this better than I do. And he even brought in files, rifled through the files, could not find a vacs-unvax study among them and exasperated, threw up his hands and said, he would email them to you.

Of course, he never got back with you. Neither did Francis Collins. Well, let's be clear. I want to be clear who was really running that meeting was Robert Kennedy Jr. Correct. Who had been reached out. Donald Trump had reached out to him and said, hey, you're really into this subject.

I'm fascinated by it. Will you go have a meeting? So we put together a great group of people to go in there with a lot of questions. But he did ultimately, Robert Kennedy was the email that was supposed to land in. We were supposed to get all this evidence. never showed up. And so then it leaves, it comes back to the question.

And how, what is this book filled with? If they couldn't provide it. What they couldn't provide it, what's in here? Well, well, you know, Bobby Kennedy is undeterred. And so what he did was he contacted me in 2019 and said, let's start to look for Vax unvax studies that are hiding in plain sight. So we started to look at PubMed, the National Library of Medicine. And lo and behold, we found the Mawson study.

I'd known about the Mawson study before. We found other studies. And, you know, Mr. Kennedy wanted me to distill down these studies, produce graphics, and then he was featuring this on his Instagram and Facebook accounts between 2019 and 2012. At first, I thought, oh, we'll find just a few studies. Well, 60 studies later and two years later, we had featured these. Bobby had posted these on his Instagram account.

A lot he had found independently of me. And he was deplatformed from Facebook and Instagram. And so we looked at each other at that particular point in time and said, this is a book. We need to put this, but needs to get out. And so we continued our search. We're now up above 100 vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies, some for the entire schedule, some for individual vaccines, some for things like vaccines and pregnancy.

And we have 11 chapters in the book, and 100 studies are featured in Vax on Vax. And really, it's a compendium. It's a handbook that has these really very, very user-friendly graphics to really distill down the science. So people can read it, they can understand it, and they can look for themselves at what are the outcomes when you're vaccinated, and what are the outcomes when you're unvaccinated? Absolutely incredible. And so just, you know, give me the spoiler. What's the spoiler alert here?

What do you find when you look at these studies? Because I know what I've seen, and I've looked at a handful, and a couple of them are unpublished by groups that just are so terrified of putting it out. But I've seen, you know, many of the same things. Is there a similarity across the issues that you're looking at? There is a consistent theme. I think similarity is a really, really good word to use because what we saw consistently, especially when we looked at children who those who were following the vaccination schedule

versus those who were completely unvaccinated, which are not that hard to find. And when we looked at those studies and the scientists who were primarily independent scientists that did this research, they found that unvaccinated children had, much less incidence of chronic disorders and even less incidence of things like infectious disease. You know, three times, I'm sorry, four times less ear infections, four times less pneumonia, respiratory infections, and then things like asthma, allergies, ADD, ADHD, autism, developmental delays, gastrointestinal issues were all much, much higher in the vaccinated group than compared to the unvaccinated group.

And these, you know, looking at these studies, you see that the children who their parents have made the choice not to vaccinate their children, overall, they're healthier. It is really, really hard to get around that. And, you know, I'm a scientist, and I want to make sure that I gave vaccines every benefit of the doubt that I could possibly give in my analysis. And Mr. Kennedy as well. But, you know, again, it's very, very clear. And we both came to the same conclusion. The unvaccinated are healthier, the unvaccinated are spared these maladies. And, you know, especially around the realm of chronic illness where so much money is spent in the United States right now,

specifically for chronic illnesses. We're in a chronic illness epidemic for children and adults. And, you know, it's really a crying shame. Brian, it's really incredible. I want everyone to read this book, and it's a great book for your friends, because this isn't filled with a bunch of studies by Wackadoodles that wish they were scientists. In many ways, these are studies done by the very people that swore that they hadn't done the studies, major regulatory agencies across the world and scientists, scientific bodies for major universities. This is really a tour to force, Brian. I think it's a game changer.

You keep being involved in game changers. You're involved in documentaries like VACS and writing books. You are out there on the speaking tour. But if we want to follow the work that you're doing after we read this book, there's a lot of people going to want to know, well, how do I get a hold of this guy? What is he up to? What types of things are you doing that we can track right now?

Right now, well, I'm the senior director of science and research at Children's Health Defense. Awesome. And so we're continuing to do epidemiology where we're looking at unvaccinated, children versus vaccinated children. There is not enough literature. The government is not doing their job. And so we're continuing to do the work at Children's Health Defense and in conjunction with independent scientists across the nation. And so I'm very, very excited about that. I love, you know, I am the quintessential science mirrored. So I love, you know, having my big supercomputer computer next to me and just, you know, pumping out the science, publishing in reputable peer-review

journals, which is becoming more and more difficult because the pharmaceutical industry controls more and more journals. But I think it's important that we continue to get the word out, that we continue to do good science, and that that science gets disseminated in some way, shape, perform. And so that's one of the reasons why, you know, I think it's really, really important to speak out. It's important to go to conferences. I just saw you in Kansas City, which was a real treat where we were both speaking at, I forget the name, the Health Revival, the Freedom Revival. Freedom Revival in the Heartland. And the Heartland. There we go. Yes. And so continuing to do that, my work is featured at children's health defense.org.

Okay. And you can indeed follow us there. We're building a robust science contingent. I now have a staff of eight additional scientists and analysts that work directly with me. And it is, we have a great time every day. And I feel like, you know, we're doing God's work. Yeah. We are really, you know, there's, there's.

just a sort of a calling of being able to do this, especially sort of, I don't want to say the twilight of my career, because I'm not that old, but, you know, coming around to this. Pinnacle of your career. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. That's what you said. I'm borrowing that word. Okay.

So, but yes, we continue to do good work. And again, Bobby Kennedy is just undeterred by any type of destruction. force that raised it up against him. So he's sending studies to me and he's saying, we need to analyze these studies for the next edition of Vax on Vax, let the science speak. Fantastic. I love that you have not given up. You are working with some of my favorite people in the world doing such great work. So definitely check out this book written by Brian Hooker, the pinnacle of his career and all the research that he's doing now. Check out what he's doing at children's health defense.org. Brian, thank you for taking the time.

to join us today. Thank you so much, Del. It was a pleasure. Good to see you. Good to see you too. I'll see you soon. Well, you know, he said we're doing God's work. We're doing God's work, which is something I think a lot about. He didn't say, I am God, I don't think there is a God, I think I need to replace God. I think that God got it wrong. We've got to fix all the diseases on the planet. That seems to be the thinking. And I think a lot of us are sort of waking up to this idea that it feels like there's a battle of light and dark, good and evil, or maybe just intelligence and stupidity. They all sort of can, I think, claim the same space. Well, when I look at this, when you think about the journey I've been on

with Vaxed, that got me in the middle of this vaccine conversation and all the investigations I started doing, well, that puts you, the moment you realize, you mean, you have to know this, when you're stepping in this conversation, the moment you realize that I'm about to start pointing to science that everyone in science has told me and everyone at CBS said to me doesn't exist. I'm like, but it does exist. It actually does. It's right here. There's studies I can show you right now that talk about what I mean. The moment you do that, you suddenly are attacked. Now all of a sudden you're not an Emmy Award winning producer of a medical talk show. You're a quack. You're a lunatic. You're going to get children killed. At the moment that happened to me, there was those

that had come before me and gone through that gauntlet. There was Dr. Andrew Wakefield, who was the director of Vax and co-producer, Barbara Lowe Fisher and Sherry Tenpenny, who's going through some issues right now, and I want to send my prayers to her also. But people that sort of stood out there on their own, and they were attacked. And it was easy to attack them because the body of science moved in and just had a chicken pecking party on the one person that just wasn't towing the line. But slowly, but surely, movies like Vax come along, I come along. We start getting media attention. And all of a sudden, Vax is being talked about on Maine. mainstream news and slowly but surely we start winning lawsuits and everything starts changing and now

what you find is the conversation is different now you have i think we've reported over 30% of America believe that the COVID vaccine is killing people or somewhere in that neighborhood 50% they yeah probably killing people and so we have turned a corner more and more people are questioning the childhood vaccine and we keep showing you studies of the amount of the incredible amount of science being done around how dangerous is the COVID vaccine, and we're watching top scientists. Now the vaccine issued isn't just one person you can attack, but we're able to go to Senator Ron Johnson's hearing and put up a panel of like 20 world-renowned scientists, leading number one most published heart doctor in the world, one of the most published ICU doctors in

the world, you know, pathogen specialists, epidemiologists, the inventor of one of the vaccines we're talking about himself. All of this is happening, which means this conversation is changing. And now no longer do I have to worry about when I get onto a plane, people going, there's that quack. In fact, last night when I was flying in, luckily to make this show, the stewardess said, I love the work that you do, and I've been to all your rallies.

And you're getting on Facebook and saying, having people say, you know, I used to call you like crazy, but I actually need some information right now. There it is. I was the king of the anti-vactures. That's a claim to fame. could use some work, but that's how it goes when they hate you for telling the truth. I say all of this because there's a conversation we've been diving into that similarly is being

railroaded. And you're called a quack if you go near it. And this is in the space of geoengineering or chem trails and things like that. Are we actually manipulating the weather? Oh, that's crazy talk. Before I even take one step further, I just want to ask you, you yourself, and I hope I have an audience of logical people. I want you to be intelligent and logical. I don't want you just buy into the next rate is bad, but let's just take a moment and ask ourselves a few questions because this is how I think.

This is how I work. And I thought about this show. Am I going to talk about chemtrails? Am I going to talk about geoengineering? Here's what I go through. Okay, do I think that it's possible that my government and the scientists in it, the same mindset of, as I said,

these people that don't believe in God believe they are God, They think they're going to actually be able to stop every virus and bacteria on the planet. No matter how bad the product fails that they make, they're going to force it on us, and then make a bunch of products to fix the problem that they've made because they're God. They can do this better than nature, right? Those people.

Do you not think that there's a group of those people that are really fascinated by weather and are looking at the weather and saying, you know, I'll bet we can control the weather. I'll bet we control clouds and rain. What if we could start an earthquake? What if we could create a tidal wave? Do you really think of all the people? and all the geeks that are really super smart coming through school and, you know, didn't have a lot of friends

and don't jump off of cliffs wearing wingsuits to get excited, but actually get excited by the idea of manipulating the weather. Do you think they don't exist? Come on. You know they exist. You know they're out there. And you know they're being paid by who? Nations that tend to take great ideas and turn them into weapons of mass destruction. Oh, we've got this great little splitting of the atoms thing. could make great energy and be really freed if we could make it clean and safe, that'd be awesome

but no, how don't we turn it into a bomb? That kills people. This is how our nations think. Is it not? Am I overstating it? Do we not go, oh, you've got a balance with nature, we've got immune systems, but what if you took a germ

and you put it in a petri dish and you ran it through some penguins and some snakes and some bats and then eventually start like sprinkling into some human cells and then maybe you can get it to infect human cells and get really infectious. Wow, that's cool.

That could kill it. everybody. Now can I make something that stops it, an antidote if you will? Then we can release it and then give ourselves the antidote. This is how people think, right? I think we're all on the same page here. Do you think that those same minds do not see the potential in warfare that uses the weather? And now let's go ahead to these freaks that think that the sun is getting too hot and that the globe is warming and maybe it is. Who knows what it's caused by? Dinosaurs had more CO2, than we have now. Maybe dinosaurs were building a bunch of cars and exhaust machines that somehow dissolved before we got here. I don't know how that works. But what I do know is that a lot of this

doesn't make sense, but there is a common theme. Any way we can, we want to control the earth. And now, more and more people are talking about it and those people out there that didn't make a lot of sense, they're starting to make it on the news. And we're starting to see things that look more like this. Cloud seeding is something that I studied in school for meteorology, weather modification. Back when I went to school, it was like I'll poo-pooed a little bit. It was too expensive. It's not efficient enough. Well, guess what?

When you get desperate and then technology gets better, 20 years later, here we are, cloud seating is ramping up so big. You see me there showing that flare on the plane. They send silver iodide into the clouds, and then it makes it snow more. So they can't make a cloud, right? But they're taking storms that are already there and then giving it a little booze. Gareth Kamens heads up one of the largest cloud seeding companies in the U.S. Has the desperation in the megadrought made the interest in cloud seeding skyrocket?

Oh, definitely. There are currently 42 cloud seeding projects across the American West, like this one in Utah, where they take planes like this with flares attached. They fly right into the storm and send microscopic particles into the cloud. Particles that act like magnets for water droplets, droplets bonding together until they are heavy enough to fall to the ground as rain or snow. Kamins, whose pilot showed us a cloud seeding demonstration flight, says that cloud seeding can make 3 to 15 percent more snowpack.

That water can be priceless. It can make the difference of adding a couple weeks to your irrigation cycle for your crops. During the Vietnam War, there was something called Operation Popeye, a top secret program program to seed the clouds over Vietnam during the monsoon season to wash the VACong out. Ooh. And they actually tried that. With laser beams? Well, no, with silver iodide crystals to condense the water vapor to cause nucleides that would then cause raindrops and that would then accelerate the monsoon season.

Okay. So are they doing this today, the U.S. government? Well, it turns out that eight states in the United States of practice some form of the state. of weather modification. For example, seeding the clouds with silver iodide, and the Chinese, famously at the Olympic in the year 2008, seeded the clouds in order to have it rain outside of the Olympics. So, weather-monificating... Apparently, yeah. What's new is they have hundreds of these ground cloud cedars. So they're actually puffing the

silver iodide with a flare. And you see, I think I have a picture of the actual ground cloud cedar into the air. That thing sits all over the Rocky Mountains, all over the American West. Ten states are doing this. My friend Russ is the state climatologist of Colorado, and he said, you've got to see what's happening with cloud seeding. It is huge, and it's only getting bigger by next year. I mean, if you really think back, it used to be known that we're seeding clouds. I grew up in Boulder, Colorado. I'm a skier. I love to ski. I've talked about that, and I know for a fact they would talk about the seed in the clouds so we could get more snow, which was a huge revenue for Colorado, then all of a sudden became like, if you mentioned that, you're absolutely

crazy. And now all of a sudden you're a conspiracy theorist if you talk about weather manipulation. But clearly there's people in the news now that are talking about it. And this headline happened just here in Austin where I live recently. Austin-based company wants to control the rain over Lake Travis. If you read this article by NBC after one of the hottest years on record, rainwater tech, and Austin-based company is hoping to bring weather-controlling technology to the United States, The company has been using the tech in the Middle East and Australia for 10 years. Other nations are doing it. Sure, imagine America would be doing this too.

The company produces rain by using large and 10-hour towers. What we do is basically produce an ion plume that goes up and the atmosphere attaches to the cloud nuclei and enhances the rain. We have been doing a lot of investigations in this space and just very quickly so that you understand it, like why would you put these silver iodides or aluminum particles or the things that you hear. actually as it turns out, I didn't know this, you can't make a raindrop without a particle, a dust particle of some kind. That particle is what collects the condensation turns into a raindrop and falls. So without particles in the air, no raindrops. This is what they do by increasing the amount of particles.

Now you can increase rain. That's sort of just a basic understanding of it. But to get to the bottom of this and really to talk about how this conversation is advancing, I reached out to the guy that was all by himself at one point, a voice crying in the wilderness trying to warn all of us. There's a bunch of lunatics that are doing things with science that could affect our health in this planet forever. I'm talking about Dane Wigington. He joins me now. Dan, thank you.

Thank you. Thanks for coming on today. Thank you for your continued attention to this issue. You're welcome. I want to ask you a question. This is something that, you know, in the vaccine space, I feel like sometimes those have been at it for really long. time. There's these blips that I get excited about and they're like, well, it's still a marathon Dell. I'm not sure if we're advancing or not. I want to ask you, I feel like this conversation is actually starting to shift. I mean, you've been at this logging at it long before we got

here. But do you have a sense that this conversation about weather manipulation, about releasing, you know, toxic particles in the sky, do you feel like it's getting more traction? It is because it can't not get more traction. This is something you can't put in the rearview mirror because the climate system is disintegrating. Climate engineering is not the only cause of that. And as you correctly stated, the carbon counts are escalating rapidly today. That has happened in Earth's past, but here's the difference. It's happening now hundreds of times faster than at any point in Earth's geologic past.

And that makes this a very different scenario. We're losing the ozone layer, which was not the case in any previous. past extinction with these higher levels. So that's a problem as well. And there's many forms of human damage to the planet. Geoengine Watch that Ord readily acknowledges that. To think that we haven't been bad stewards of the planet wouldn't be logical or rational at this point.

That being said, climate intervention operations are disabling the planet's ability to respond to the damage already done while inflicting even more damage in the process. And if I could clarify this, all the forms of weather modification just shown, although real, are simply used as a smoke screen to mask the exponentially larger and unimaginably more destructive climate intervention operations, aka Weather Warfare. So to make this clear as well, these programs are not benevolent in any way, shape, or form. There's many layers, many objectives, many agendas, masking the true severity of damage already done to the planet. as you correctly stated earlier, like the pharmaceutical approach to the human body,

trying to mask the damage done while inflicting even more damage in the process, and using weather as a weapon. We see systematic targeting of agricultural-producing regions. So again, I can't express with enough urgency the gravity and immediacy of what's unfolding in our skies, the threat it poses to all of us. If we don't deal with this, all other causes, all other concerns will very soon be moot points and that's a mathematical statistical trajectory though and i think that you know and as i've spoken to you and we've had some deep intense conversations right on the camera here and but looking at it there's just things that my logical mind says like let's just take the story of the Olympics in china they brag about the fact they manipulated the weather what do they do as as it was described

the scientists that i know that you've worked with and and share many of the same thoughts about but they created rain outside of the Olympic area, I think to use up the precipitation so they had good weather over the space where the Olympics was happening. So they were able to change the weather patterns around a space to achieve a goal. In that case, it was so everybody could have a happy, go lucky time. But certainly, when we look at the minds that we've talked about that run these nations that spend the military industrial complex, you would be insane to think that they don't look at that same thing and say, wait a minute, if I have, I could keep it from raining on Olympic event center. I could keep it from raining on farmland of my enemy. Or I could make it rain so much that you cannot see straight.

You can't get out and your house is running down the road. You would imagine that that is part of what's going on. And so that is where I think I'm meeting you on this. And then I think there's another thing that's happening. When we look at nuclear energy, I think is a very good comparator. we could create energy or we could create bombs. They want us to focus on the energy. There's a lot of talk right now.

Why aren't we using nuclear energy? I'm always like, well, because every time we mess that up, we destroy our ocean and everyone around it, and I'm waiting for the idea to be clean, but I don't want to get off the subject. That's what they focus on, but we don't talk about the nuclear weapons that are being used.

Is it similar that many of these technologies, we're now firing lasers up in the sky. You've talked about harp systems that are on a much grander scale. So they tell us, it's almost like, they're telling us what they're doing, but they're telling us the shiny, happy part of it, not what they can actually do on the, as you say, more dangerous or manipulative or darker side. Is that sort of what you're saying? Sure, we can create some rain, we're firing lasers up, but we can also create a drought that'll be devastating to nations in this world and things

like that as wages of war. They can and are doing all the above. Of course, they're using climate as a weapon. Why wouldn't they use it as a weapon? It's the crown jewel WMD of the controllers because they can bring populations to their knees without those populations ever even knowing they're under assault. And for those in the so-called science community that continue to claim we don't have the technology to carry out geoengineering operations, what utter absurd nonsense that is we have film footage of patented aircraft spraying mechanisms 100 years ago, 1923, film footage of five of those aircraft flying in formations with the diagrams of the patents, the tanks, the pipes, the pumps inside the planes, dispersing exactly what we see

in our skies today. And we have the so-called climate science community pretending they don't have the technology to do this. And at the same time telling us we need to do it immediately. And if we did it, it would look exactly like what we see, but we're not really seeing what we're seeing. We live in an asylum, Dell, and to link the COVID scenario in with all this. CB19 and everything that it involves is a response to the collapsing biosphere.

And for those who don't believe it, whatever their view is on the climate is not relevant to the fact that it is undeniable that the planet's life support systems are virtually imploding. Climate engineering a big part of that, not the only part, but a major part because it's disabling the planet's ability to respond to the damage done. We see fisheries collapsing around the globe. 90% collapse in global pelagicic fish populations, the food fish, crops collapsing around the global. globe, 37 countries today descending into chaos because there's not enough to eat. So again, for those that are pretending these problems are off somewhere else in the world and won't affect them, that's like pretending that you're part of the ship that hasn't gone underwater yet is safe because you're not on the part that is underwater.

It's, again, a very biopic view. So bottom line is we cannot escape what's happening in our skies, not only destroying the planet's life support systems, the ozone layer. it's ubiquitously contaminating everything on the planet, every breath we take. We know there's not an uncontaminated drop of rain anywhere on the planet now. That's pre-reviewed science study, all contaminated with PFS forever chemicals. That's everywhere, North Pole, South Pole, Mount Everest, and everywhere in between. It's contaminating our soils, soil microbiome, crops.

And we're talking about elements like aluminum, beryum, granthium, manganese. Adele, you know from your work how toxic each of these elements is and when you combine them, you get synergistic toxicity. In the case of aluminum and mercury, and I know you know about those metals and how bad they are, by themselves, when you combine them based on peer-reviewed science study, the toxicity can increase as much as 10,000 percent,

a hundred times worse, and we are literally inhaling these particles. We know that. We have lab tests from all over the globe. Aluminum nanoparticles are raining out for air column. So it's a very lethal mix, though. I want to just, and just to clarify,

the people know where we're coming from, you know, like, well, what is your agenda? People ask me, like, what is this agenda? Are you like a climate scientist? Are you into the WEF? Things like that. I always state with my show. I agree with everything that you are saying in that we have toxic fish. I would love to be able to take my son out and fish in any river in America and take that home like, you know, Norman Rockwell over our shoulder and eat that fish. We don't live in that age anymore. I have to be very careful about what fish we eat. That's a problem. I just don't see that on all sides of the political spectrum. We should all want clean rivers that we can swim in, clean food that we can eat. We should want our farms to be clean, the animals,

everything, air that we breathe, we have asthma, all these things. I just feel like, and so I say that I'm an environmentalist the way I used to be, which is I want all, I want a clean earth and I'm always going to work towards that. And would you consider yourself an environmentalist? I just wanted just the background of like where you come from on that so that people get a sense of the base of your perspective? I'm an environmentalist to the core and I moved, I spent my entire adult life trying to get out of Southern California and the smog that I was hacking on that none of the adults seem to be concerned about. And I moved to Northern California. They've completely off grid, wind, hydro and solar power, which is a better form of energy, but not renewable as the green

people are trying to make us believe. But yes, I'm an environmentalist to the core was working on restoring habitat, managing a very large habitat preserve, supervising everything on that preserve. But I couldn't stay there, Del, knowing what I knew was being done in the skies above, and that that would negate every bit of my work in the short term if it continued, that these toxic elements raining down on all of us, literally contaminating the entire web of life. And you bought the fish scenario. Here's a recent science study of 500 locations throughout the US on wild caught fish within the borders of the US that are so toxic without exception that eating one of those fish is equivalent to drinking a month's worth of toxic water.

That's how bad it is. So again, we know these elements are being used and to quantify that, we have taken hundreds of lab tests over a single U.S. state. We're not disclosing the agency we're working with yet. But when we extrapolate the amount of material being dumped, Dell, on a, you know, global basis annually if that dumping is uniform as it was in that state, that's about 40 to 60 million tons of toxic climate engineering nanoparticles being dumped into our skies annually, 40 to 60 million tons. All right, all of that is very alarming. I want to get into a subject

that I think is bringing some attention to this topic again. And it's based on the wildfires that we're seeing. Most deadly fire in America that took place in Maui. I lost my home. in Malibu to a crazy fire. That was my house right there, melted to the ground. And I'll tell you, I've heard of fires. And the interesting things here are the fact that I had metal girders that were melted over, but right next door, you know, houses that did find a very horrific event, but I don't mean to compare it in any way to those who have lost lives. Luckily, every one of us survived it. But this conversation is sort of being sparked and it's brought up this headline that I was thinking about, which is coming right here.

Aluminum dust from geoengineering feeling super wildfires, according to the author. This just came, it just popped up. That's a 2018 story, but it's recirculating because of all these fires. And it maybe looked twice at how they're talking about the fires of the news. Now, it could be alarmist, or is it matching what that headline is saying? Take a look at this. Canada's wildfire season is now officially the worst ever recorded. Raging off California's pristine coastline, it wasn't the size, but the sheer power of this volatile wildfire.

Thousands of acres burning throughout Butte County. Urgent evacuations in a part of East Texas as a wildfire rages out of control. Tonight, a wildfire emergency in Louisiana, several raging throughout the state. In Maui, Hawaii, where at least 111 people have been killed in what is now the deadliest wildfire in modern American history. In Spain, wildfires have broken out in the tinder-dry conditions. Fires threatened to engulf the airport in Palermo, Sicily. On the Canary Island of La Pama, wildfires are ripping through a forest. The fire on the outskirts of Athens ignited on Tuesday,

forcing residents to evacuate their homes, some of whom now have nothing to come back to. This fire is just far too large to extinguish. In fact, the area already burned is larger than most countries' own. the planet. By the evening we started having these fires that spread all over the island until we were just completely engulfed the whole island there was nowhere to go. There's a five acre brush fire has grown exponentially throughout the day has now reached 2,000 acres and at this hour is now knocking on the door of this neighborhood. Words do not describe how devastating this destruction is

as this fire continues to burn through paradise basically the entire city has it burned to the ground. of the one-on-one freeway that it looks like it jumped so it's jumping nobody alive in Louisiana has ever seen these conditions fire was growing at this time at a rate of one football field a second so an acre a second yes five years ago 10 years ago you know fire like that might have grown to an acre a couple acres we'd gotten there very quickly we're seeing spread in ways that that we haven't before. Now, obviously, we have alarmist reporting on everything, but this report does seem to,

I remember the Paradise Fire up above Northern California, right before the Woolsey Fire that took my house in Malibu. Literally, people died just sitting in their cars. It went so fast, sucked the oxygen out. And we're starting to get these conversations. A lot of them happening online that the geoengineering, these aluminum particles and dust and things like that,

are accelerating these fires. Do you believe that that, I mean, in all your research is why I want to brought you in, is this potentially another side effect of this sort of contamination that's happening from our, you know, climate manipulation? It's not a matter of belief. It's indisputable science fact.

Alumin nanoparticles are used in demolitions like thermite. They're very, very volatile incendiaries. And we know we have this incendiary dust coating everything, forest foliage structures. It's everywhere. Again, 40 to 60 million tons. I would encourage your listeners, Dell, to search our engineering wildfires section on the homepage of geoengineering watch.org and see what we have said for well over a decade. We said this was coming. You and I have known each other for quite a few years, Dell. And when your house burnt down, certainly that was in an incident that we know we had geoengineering operations as a part of that equation. You showed the

Paradise Fire in our groundbreaking documentary film The Dimming, posted on the homepage of geoengineerwatch.org available to view for free, we have time-lapse footage of blanket aerosol spraying operations being conducted directly above the Paradise Fire Smoke Canopy. What possible reason would they have to do that? That's not solar radiation management, which is a stated purpose of climate engineering. Again, that's the cover with which these weather warfare operations are being carried out. And they can and are creating short-term, highly toxic cool downs at the cost of an even worse overall warming. So here's the key question.

It's not the ignition point of the fire, which can be many different factors. Arson, coordinated arson events in many forms, certainly hard to argue at this point. There's many investigations on the road. Just to the point that I was going to bring that up, let's just show a couple of these headlines that you're talking about. Tyrolomper was caused by arson. There's just lots of man arrest on specific of starting northern California fire that burned more than 100 homes. Cal Fire officers arrest, man accused of starting the Ridge incident fire.

Suspect re-arrested after six more brush fires set in Portland. Some of them even are eco-terrorists saying that they're doing it to bring awareness. There's all sorts of issues like that. Fire's popping up out of anywhere. And I want to just point this out. And, you know, I don't know how to verify this completely. But what you see right there in the middle of the screen, there are no fires and suddenly all at the same.

time you see like 40 fires in Canada. This is Canada. Just take a second to look at that. If you go back, it's clear in the middle, then all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, all those little smoke spots popping out of the forest. It's hard to explain what that is. It's not a lightning strike.

It's not like one strike moving something. That may be a whole other conversation of what's really going on with these fires. But my question does come back to you. And you talked about using it as an explosive. We did a little bit of research. Just to say, I said this morning, Like, is there proof that aluminum is like explosive?

And we just pulled up a study that we found fires and explosions associated with aluminum dust from finishing operations. This is just when it comes to working with it inside of factories. Aluminum dust produced by finishing operations is an explosive dust, which can burn or explode, if not properly controlled. I also want to point out one of the things that you talk about. We talked about in Vietnam. We manipulated the weather. We bragged about being able to do it, as you're saying, there's no.

No way. When I look at the amount of technology where we've progressed since 1969 and 70 in the Vietnam War, certainly we came a long way from like a dial phone to a cell phone that I can practically fly satellites with. I would imagine if we were manipulating weather for Vietnam, we've gotten better at it. This is something we found from our government thing about using fire as a weapon. One of the things you're talking about, this is forest fire as a military weapon. Final report. I think back in the 1970s, when considering forest fires as a potential weapon, certain advantages and limitations must be kept clearly in mind. The greatest singles superiority factor of fire as opposed to other damaging causing agents is that under the proper circumstances, fire is self-propagating. A relatively large area can be covered with a minimum expenditure of ordinance. And so if we're making forests more flammable, I mean, that's the question. Are we making forests more flammable?

Yes, that document, that 140-page document, I actually sent to your staff. That's where it came from, our watermarks on it. We found it on military archives. And that's exactly what that document described. So back to what I mentioned earlier, the source of ignition, separate subject, and certainly governments might blame all of these ignitions on eco-terrorists. The governments themselves are certainly involved in these operations. There's no question because they are setting a template for these fires.

to burn with such ferocity. And that is the key core question. What's established in the conditions for scenarios like Lahaina or Canada where there is still, right now, today at this moment, over 1,000 fires burning. Canada has lost about 62,000 square miles of forest since May. That's bigger than the state of Georgia. And yet we hear nothing about it on US Matrix Media. So again, the bottom line is what is setting the template for these fires to burn with such ferocity given the fact that it must rain more overall on a warming planet, not less. The laws of physics make this crystal clear. Seven percent more moisture is held in the atmosphere for every degree C of warming. Based on unfiltered frontline data, we are likely past three and a half degrees C right

now. That's one of the purposes of climate engineering operations to mask the severity of what's unfolding from the public. So, Del, the snowmageddon that we had in California this winter from chemical ice nucleation for weather modification. That's an artificial form of chemically nucleating cloud moisture and creating frozen precipitation events out of what it should have been liquid. And that skews people's perception, they think. How could it be warning when there's so much snowfalling? And geoengineering watch.org is the only organization that I know of

that's addressing that key part of climate engineering, chemical ice nucleation for weather modification to engineer winter events. So we have to look at all these factors. And back to the fires themselves, again, we can see on satellite imagery, and we have stated this geoengine watch onward for well over a decade, that they are cutting off precipitation to key areas of northern latitude forest, the Pacific Northwest, parts of Canada, and they are setting the stage for these fires to burn with such ferocity. Next question is, why would they do that?

We have peer-reviewed science study advocating for the intentional burning of northern latitude forest to put enough particulate matter into the air to mimic the short-term cooling effect. of a volcano. Why? To mask the severity of the warming just a bit longer at the cost of sacrificing nearest remaining life support systems. So that's how desperate and dangerous the controllers are at this point. All right. Let me just ask you sort of a final space of conversation with you because, as I said, you're an environmentalist. I used to use that word now, I'm afraid to. And here's what I want to understand. What do we do? I feel like, you know, a lot of my audience, obviously, I'm not down with the WEF World Economic Forum.

I'm not down with carbon credit scores. It seems like slavery. I am down with a cleaner planet. But I feel like many of these problems that we are now dealing with, whether it's climate science, these are people that consider themselves environmentalists. They are saying we have got to cool the earth in order to live on it. Bill Gates is like considered now, I mean, if I talk to most of my friends from Boulder, Colorado, and that are, you know, we're into the climate

or into the environment when I was. He's like regarded as this hero, yet as we reported today, he wants to cut down trees to stop CO2 release. He's one of the ones that speaks openly about something you're very connected to, which is blocking the sun, spreading particulates so that we can block the sun.

There's this God complex, and they've commandeered, they've commandeered this idea of being an environmentalist wanting a clean planet, and they're telling us they're doing all of these things to make the Earth a safer, healthier place. And I don't know how to move forward. I'm honest, Dane, I can't call myself an environmentalist anymore because these people are ludicists. And I think they may be probably starting fires to prove a point. Look at how bad it is. See, don't we need to cool the earth? I mean, do you have a sense of this conflict or am I alone on this? Of course I'm opposed to every single environmental group in existence, Dell, because they refuse to address the climate engineering operations.

And there is no legitimate discussion about climate anything from any perspective without first and foremost addressing that issue, which is the most destructive form of human activity of all. So everyone has their own definition of terms, just like the term conservative and how many consider themselves conservative. Is it conservative to build enough nuclear weapons to destroy the human race thousands of times over or go to war at the drop of the hat for resources in pursuit of empire all over the globe? Is that, quote, conservative? Again, everybody has been programmed to think a certain definition of a certain term, but the dictionary definition would mean to care about the environment on which all of our lives completely, utterly, and totally depend. And so that's why our focus is on this issue. It is the priority issue. It is the biggest hole in the bottom of the boat, period.

If we don't deal with it, the planet won't support life anymore soon. And that's not to back up AOC or Al Gore. And here's the rub, Del. Everything that those people have said is wrong. But in the opposite direction of what most would like to believe, what we face is exponentially worse than anything any of those people have said. And they have not acknowledged the climate engineering part in this equation. And I know many will roll their eyes and walk away and think that can't be true.

I ask them to look at statistics again. planet's imploding. 80 to 90% of the insects are gone today, Dell. If the insects can't make it, how long are we going to be here? Plankton population is crashing in Atlantic down 90% already from peer-reviewed study. No plankton, no people, no trees, no people. We're down 60% in the trees. And of course, bearing them like Gates proposed. Gates is simply a prop in the play. He's simply there to aggravate, divide people and keep their eyes off the horizon. But all we're asking is for people to look at the data. view the dimming, consider that, yes, people are making money off catastrophe, Al Gore, and the rest. Yes, they're disaster capitalists. But I ask people to consider, do we not have the same entities making money off of war, off of conflict, off of indeed both sides of the conflict in many cases? Does that mean the conflict didn't occur? Does that mean people didn't die? No. So we all need to not think dichotomously, clear the lens through which we see the world, try to comprehend what the biggest hole in the bottom of the boat is. And in the case of climate engineering and their aerosol dispersions, and I'll leave it with this, they have the means right now to distribute pathogens that could level the playing field overnight, Marburg, Ebola, hemorrhagic fevers. And since we know that the world's second most recognized geoengineer, Dr. Ken Caldera, former DOD scientist, Department of Defense scientists, and as I've stated before,

we have an audio of him stating what he did for the DOD was to design ways of spraying pathogens into clouds to infect the population below. We had 85 countries in three days infected by COVID. We had Italian researchers state they found COVID attached to airborne particles. Do not all these dots connect. And final statement, we know we have polymer fibers and graphene in our rain now. Both of those elements are used militarily in biological warfare to carry a pathogen from the cloud to the ground. Why in the world we think they wouldn't do this when they've been doing it for decades? And that's a matter of record. biological testing without public knowledge or consent. So we face a very dark horizon.

We can't hide from what's happening in our skies. We don't deal with it. We're done in the short term, period. Really compelling. And so many of those things do cross over now. I agree. And we've just been reporting this entire show. When you have regulatory agencies recommending a product that they now know really only

causes autoimmune disease is destructive to the lives of children, we see rising, you know, mortality rates. in every country, the more vaccinated, the higher the raise of all cause mortality. All of these things, people say, well, it's not causation. It certainly should be a headline in a newspaper somewhere. And when it's not, we better get nervous that we're being lied to by a very large system. Dane, I love the work that you're doing out there. It's really important.

We are crossing over. We are looking at things you're talking about, aerosolized vaccines and that insanity on its way. I think a lot of these people have a God complex. I don't know if they're just out to kill people or they're just completely ignorant, but those of us that are looking at these things have got to sort of rise up and have our voices heard. And you've been out there all alone on the front line.

So I want to congratulate you today because I do think this conversation is changing. We're happy to be helping you in some of those investigations and getting the word out there. But for your work, tell us once again, if we want to donate to the work that you do and help you continue your fight,

How do we find you? Geoengineeringwatch.org. We're the largest most visited site in the subject in the world. We're non-political. We do not advertise. Our sole purpose is to make what's happening in our skies stop. And on a final note, COVID everything, vaccinations included, are the controller response to unfolding biosphere collapse.

They are certainly trying to cull the herd. And as dire as that may sound to some, I hope they will. keep that conclusion in mind as we head into the coming weeks and months, it will become increasingly clear. All right, Dane, take care. I look forward to speaking with you again soon. Thanks for taking the time. Thank you, John. All right. All right, well, you know, look, we share a bunch of perspectives with you on this show. I'm bringing you science from a lot of different places. You have to do your own research. I mean, that's the case. All that we can do here is we can open up. I can show you where these questions are coming from, the headlines where they're coming from.

I said this morning is aluminum explosive. We can find that. Has the government ever thought about starting fires? Yes, they have. There's documents. So what I'm trying to show you is, before you decide to call someone quack or say that's crazy,

why don't you actually do an investigation? Just do some simple research and say, is it possible to do what they're talking about? Is it possible to manipulate the weather? Yes, it is. Then ask yourself, then we really not be, doing that and if we could do it would we only do it for good based on what we see from our government and the governments of the world right now i think all of this needs more of our attention i think

we've got to stop being allergic to alarmist or strong focused energy from people that have been fighting for a very long time on these issues i think it's time to wake up it's starting to sprinkle into the news usually by the time it's in the news i think it's almost too late we've got a lot of work to do want you to spread the word. Children are being murdered. Children being murdered by government agencies now that clearly must know the truth and why they're moving forward. I don't know what the agenda is. All I know is the result. Arise in all cause mortality with everybody. All of these are the types of conversations that we're having here on the highway. We're looking at all the ways that we can affect change. We're bringing you the lawsuits and things like that. We're also starting new

programming. One of the things that we want to invest in is bringing you more materials, more interviews, maybe even develop a couple new shows or two with some new voices. We're working on a special thing with Jeffrey Jackson. Sort of a trial of that was the Freedom Files, something that we recorded. We got a bunch of interviews. We were at Freedom Fest this year. It was an amazing experience. So this Monday, we're dropping two new Freedom Files. This is then Marks Kusen, the founder of Freedom Fest and Zhu Feng-Su. I think that's how that's a how you say it, survivor of Tiananmen Square. He was there when his government decided

that the will of the people didn't matter and you weren't allowed to protest. This is a fascinating set of interviews. You're not gonna wanna miss it and you won't miss it if you are on the high wire and you just type in your name there, just go to the bottom of the high wire where you will get all the evidence we just talked to Dane about,

that little article about the military using forest fires. You want that in your hands or you just wanna be able to talk about it with no proof. That's the type of thing you get when you sign up to our newsletter. You should be taking part in one of the most important tools that we give you for free just for watching. For those of you that donate to make all of this research possible, I want to thank you.

Here's a little taste of what's happening on the Freedom Files on Monday. I'm a survivor of the TEMMA massacre. As someone who was there first and asked to leave, it's my duty to tell the world what happened. In two weeks of the protest, Deng Xiaoping decided to use military force.

Many people killed when we were leaving Tiaman Square while the world was watching. This is why today's China is so important to understand because the ability of controlling people, the extent it can do it, it's never seen before. It's beyond the worst imagination because of technology. Zhu Feng Shuo was literally on the top five lists of fugitives in China.

It was the top five. They wanted that guy bad. Imagine living that life. And imagine asking yourself, what type of courage does it take to be that person? Are those courageous people just a small few? Or do you ask yourself, do I have that in me? Do I have the ability, would I, would I stand up if it really mattered? I mean, what would I do to protect my kids, right?

What would I do? What would I do to protect my country, right? We ask ourselves that, and I think we come up with really heroic moments like, well, if it gets bad enough or they kicked in my door, I certainly would be protecting my kids. But, you know, we all put on masks, we all bent down, we took a knee when we were asked to by the government. We watched people turn in our neighbors. We stopped having parties. We ran out of buildings before we sneezed just so we didn't freak everybody out, made our lives totally insane.

And then we ask ourselves, well, how courageous was that? You know, the issue is not, you know, whether or not you're courageous. It's whether or not you're going to deep down reach into that courage that's inside of you and make it happen, right? inside of everyone is a fight or flight. That moment you fight because you realize there's a car on top of your child or you do something outrageous. Every story we hear about that, that something clicks in, something triggers and human beings become superheroes in the instant. That instant that they realize that there is no reality that stands in their way. I have to save my child.

Why is that instant not happening in everyone in the world right now? We have shown you the evidence. I have shown you the evidence. It is crystal clear now. And I can say it. And I know that they're going to try and figure out how to shut this show down if they ever do this again. I am sure we have bullseyes on this place and our internet and how we're coming to you. We are going to continue to try and build technology so that we can protect the truth.

But while I am still here in America, and America is still America, and we have free speech, I'm going to tell you this. They're murdering you. They're killing your children. The United States of America is. The FDA and the CDC are now taking part,

whether it was accidental to begin with, or they just had no idea the vaccine was that bad. They know it now. All cause mortality up in our children. That should be the final straw for all of us. That's it. You're not asking any questions. That means you need to be fired right away.

This entire government needs to be taken out. We need to put in new government. I mean taken out with our votes in yes. They would love for you to believe that our voting system doesn't work. They want you to believe that you are powerless. They want you complaining all day long that there's nothing you can do because they have just corrupted the system that much. That's what they want you to believe.

So if you think you're a genius sitting there complaining that they're doing it and they're so corrupt and there's nothing you can do about it, you're doing exactly what they want you to do. Because if you actually said, you know what, I'm going to tell everyone I know. I don't care that they're going to try and say, I'll be humiliated for doing it or that I will look like an outsider or maybe I will lose my Facebook page. They want you to care about those things. The moment you don't is the moment you become a hero is the moment that you don't care if you're on a list

because the only list you care about is that list of people that stood up for humanity and the children of this world. Be a hero. It is time to lift that car off of your kids and your neighbor's kids because your neighbor is asleep. You got to wake them up. Your house is burning down.

Get up. I'm going to tell you the truth. Oh, I might be, you know, I don't know what they'd say if I told their house is burning down. They really love that house. They're going to die if you don't talk to them. They're going to kill their kids and they don't mean it. Figure out a way to wake them up. Be nice.

Be courteous. Bring some science. Bring a cake. Bring back to the movie. Whatever it takes. You're needed now. You need to be a hero. This is our time.

I know we're going to do this. That's why I have hope. I have hope because we keep growing and you keep making that happen. And I look forward to an even bigger audience next week.