The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 345: HOUSE PARTY

Episode Date: November 10, 2023

What is it like to submit a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) Request?; Jefferey Jaxen Reports on the skyrocketing rate of Infant Mortality and the CDC lackluster response, 40 states suing Mark Zuckerberg’s Meta over children’s mental health, and is Nipah Virus the next COVID?; Then, Del welcomes Donnie & Jenny McCarthy Wahlberg to The HighWire Studio for an inspiring and candid conversation about celebrity, activism, integrity, the ups and downs, medical freedom, and so much more. There’s a house party today on The HighWire! Guests: Aaron Siri, Esq., Jefferey Jaxen, Donnie Wahlberg, Jenny McCarthy WahlbergBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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it's time for us all to step out onto the high wire. I don't know if you can feel it out there in TV world, but in this studio we're buzzing because we have a gigantic show, a star-studded show. I've got Jeffrey Jackson is in the house going to be delivering live. We've got Jenny McCarthy-Wallberg and Donnie Wahlberg, joining us live in studio in just a few moments. But first, Aaron Siri is going to be live to talk about many things, including his recent appearance in Phoenix, Arizona, discussing, you know, all the issues with the COVID vaccine. Here it was the novel coronavirus southwestern intergovernmental committee expert panelists.

We're going to just talk a little bit about that. And this is what that looked like. If you're present or tuned in here today, it's because you've been impacted in some way by the pandemic or its policies. The purpose of this hearing is what do we do right? What do we do wrong? And what do we need to fix so we don't do it again? We consume consumer products all day long, like food and water, nobody needs to course us to do it. They only nearly need to course people when there is questions about safety and equity, like COVID-19 vaccines. It's my conclusion that the vaccines, the COVID-19 vaccines, all of them are not safe for human use. That's the reason why people are sick in so many different ways because it's the first use of a widespread genetic

technology that 75% of Americans took. I've been a soldier since 1983, came in under Ronald Reagan. I was one of five doctors become a green beret on active duty. This is not about politics. This is about right and wrong. Black and white, that's simple. I trusted that the COVID vaccine was safe and I felt like I was just doing the right thing. But now I feel like I was a guinea pig to this terrible bioweapon that has destroyed my body and my life.

I've heard this so many times with my soldiers that did take it and ended up in the ICU's and whatnot. And the Veterans Administration would not even look into their cases. So I would imagine that I'm going to say, as a Vax victim myself, you feel betrayed by a system that should have been there to step in the gap for you. Leading up to 1986, there were only three routine childhood vaccines. That's it, MMR, DTP, and OPV. And the amount of harm they were causing were so. great and there were so much financial harm to the companies from those physical harms to children that all the manufacturers making those products either went out of business or stopped making them.

Instead of them having to make a better, safer product, Congress passed the National Child of Vaccine Indirect in 1986, which permitted them to continue selling their product irrespective of the level of harm that they caused. The problem is not only did Congress give them immunity for the injuries of those three for any future childhood vaccines that are licensed. We look at all of this information. The reason why we're doing all of this is to understand where we get to with the COVID. The COVID-19 vaccine, they also have immunity, but under a separate law called the PEP Act,

there's no other consumer product that I'm aware of that has that kind of immunity. Well, it's my honor and pleasure to be joined in studio right now by the one, the only Erin Siri. You know, watching that video, and talking about this, I think back to when we first met the end of 2016. And at that moment we started working, we would have to crash the CDC's ASIP meeting. We would struggle to get onto some sort of speaker, like a microphone for three minutes, to talk to a health committee or something like that or a Senate hearing. And it just feels like looking at where we're at now.

I mean, you look at this event in Arizona. We have politicians that are now reaching out to you and me and saying we would like to, you know, put a panel around this conversation of vaccines, vaccine injury, health freedom, informed consent. I mean, that is a huge jump from where we were just a few years ago. Oh, it's a land shift. I think that COVID really brought into focus what happens when you take away people. rights to make their own medical decisions. Because once you can't decide whether or not you can't or can't take a product and you don't want to take it, pretty much all your rights are gone because you can't leave your house, you can't get a job, you can't go to school and so forth.

And I think politicians across the country are really waking up to it and they're hungry for that information. That's Senate Health Committee hearing that you just played a preview of in Arizona. Sitting to the left of me was the head of the House Health Committee, the deputy head of the Senate Health Committee and the head of the Senate Health Committee. Yeah, absolutely, six years ago, committee hearings like that inviting, you know, somebody like myself and Dr. McCullough, and you heard the Staff Sergeant. PG, yeah. Talking about COVID vaccine injuries, vaccine injuries, the rights to make your own choices, that was not happening. And so this is happening across the country now,

and it's a wonderful development. When, you know, what part of it were you there to talk about? I mean, so obviously there was a lot of people covering things. So what were they, you know, what did you sort of focus on? I was asked to speak about two different things. The first one was informed consent. What is it, right? You inform somebody, and then they choose whether they consent, to put it in a nutshell.

And how does one go about becoming informed about vaccines? So I gave about an hour something presentation on that, going through some of the things you can look at to get informed, some basic stuff. example, does the company that makes the product stand behind it? Right. Right. Right. If somebody, you go to look to buy a car or someone, what's the warranty? What's the warranty on this?

Right. Step one. And I go through five other steps like clinical trial, post-lisher safety. What are the benefits? The second thing I was asked to talk about was how to safeguard exemptions. Because if there's a mandate, fine. But if there's an exemption to it, then you can opt out. So it's like a mandate, no mandate.

So long as there's an exemption, you still do have choice. And how do we safeguard that? So I go through. Because in Arizona, they still have their exemptions in place. That's right. They're one of still, when we're talking now about school mandates, because that's typically where the most mandated medical products are. There are vaccines for school.

The 45 states still have exemptions that you can check the box for to send your child to school without getting the mandated vaccine. for school. You want to get them. This is America. You should be free to do it. But if you don't want to get them, you should have the ability to check the box and say no. And I talked about a number of things that people could talk about with their legislative representatives and others in their community. Why these exemptions are so important and critical, including, by the way, that at least four of the six typically mandated vaccines for school, they don't prevent infection, transmission, in a school setting, according to the data and science from the CDC and FDA

itself. Not me saying it. Them saying it. To make somebody take a product that only helps them is one of the most illiberal rights-crushing things you could do. Maybe I want you to use your asthma inhaler, but I'm not going to take away your education if you don't. Right.

Think about that. It's a really great point. It's just punitive to the child. I was hoping today, because we keep talking about these FOIA requests, Freedom of Information Act request, which is a huge body of the work that we have your legal team doing. And it's really sort of that fuse that gets lit that leads to litigation in the future and some of the legal wins we've had. And a lot of this revolving around the COVID vaccine, what's it doing, what are the issues. So I was hoping you could sort of take us through

what that process means. Because I think a lot of people just think, well, you write a letter, you send it, and then, boy, you just get the information back. But it doesn't really work exactly that. It's not that smooth, is it? No, CDC and after. I typically don't send us a thank you note when we send them a Freedom Information Act request, surprisingly. But as I've said before, the Freedom Information Act is the law that Congress passed

to let us check on those in government that we pay for. They work for us, we pay their salary, and we want to see what they've been up to. And so we're able to submit FOIA requests to the executive branch, and we've submitted, I think, over 1,700 requests that are either for ICAN or supported by ICAN to the various health authorities. And yeah, you asked me to go through one of those requests today to kind of give a life,

a life of the life cycle of just one request to show how, you know, how that kind of goes about. I think it's not, it's pretty, it's not, each one has got a different life story. But this is not out of the ordinary, the one that we're going to go through today. Okay, great. All right. So, you know, because of the, some of the litigation that we were doing in California to oppose COVID-19 vaccine mandates, we, on behalf of ICANN submitted a number of FOIA requests to the California Department of Public Health as well as the CDC regarding a number of issues. Okay. Now, one of those was a FOIA request in July 16th, the 2021. So that's about, you know, seven months after the rollout of the first COVID vaccine. And what we asked for was for the communications. between the CDC and the California Department of Public Health relating to cases of COVID-19 vaccine breakthrough infections,

so meaning people who got the COVID-19 vaccine and then had COVID afterwards. We wanted to see what those communications looked like. We had from other FOIA requests responses a reason to believe that there would be a lot of interesting exchanges there. Two months later, we get back a response from the CDC, And that's on September 8th, 2021. And the response is, oh, sorry, I can.

We can't give you any of those communications because there is a data use agreement between the California Department of Health and the CDC, they say, that prohibits us from sharing any of those communications. So we said, oh, well, that's, I guess we'll just pack up and go home. That's what they're hoping for.

Right, but we didn't. We did two things. Okay. First, we then FOIA the CDC. Now, by the way, how long do they have? I mean, there are rules to this, right? So when we put in a FOIA request, how long do they have to actually give us what we're looking for? Technically under the statute, they have a limited time period.

But that's just to respond to say whether or not they have documents or don't. Our interpretation of statutes, they also have to give us the documents. Theirs is that they don't. They just have to let us know if they have it or if they object. Then you could sit around and wait and so forth. And, you know, there's an appellate process. and then if you're not happy with that, you can go to court. So how long before they have to say something to you?

It's a few weeks, typically. A few weeks. So this is even past that few weeks when they finally get back to us. This was, yeah, it was right within the time period. It's about 20 business days, so they can get in depending on when the business days fall. Okay. So they get back, as I just said, they say we have a date of use agreement so we can't give it to. So we do two things.

First is we send another FOIA this time. for a copy of the data use agreement because they didn't give it to us. We say, hey, let's see this data use agreement. You say it exists. And separately, we appealed the denial on the basis that even if there is a data use agreement,

that's not an impediment to you producing the documents because you can't CDC set up a reason not to comply with your FOIA obligations. So what? The CDC is always going to like create some contract that's going to limit FOIA? No, you can't do that.

It's a bit like, you know, if you're an employer over a company and you say, I want to see your emails, you're working on a company computer and an email system. It's like, I'm sorry, but me and my deskmate Joe here decided we have a contract with each other that keeps you, the boss, and be able to look at our emails, right? It's sort of like that. Kind of like that. What would you guys do that would have power over the fact that you work for me? And that's essentially what they're trying to do here. So, pretty much. So make the crest of July, they respond in September.

We do these appeals in October. And then December, the CDC, and not, you know, this doesn't typically happen, but decides, it tells the appellate department, hey, send us back those requests. We're going to process them before the appellate division had a chance to rule on the appeal or before they responded to our other FOIA about the data use agreement. Okay. And so they go and they process it. We're like, okay, let's see what they come back. June, finally, here we are. They produced 237 pages in response to our requests.

Asking, again, the request was about any communication between the CDC and the California Department of Health about breakthrough infections, meaning you get the vaccine and then there is a case of COVID in those individuals. So this started in July 2021. We're finally getting documents in June of 2022. Yes. Okay. All right. So 11 months. Yep.

That's better than getting nothing, which is typically what they hope for. Okay. They also had five pages that they sent to the Department of Defense saying that they have to review those. So those we don't get, we get the 237. Now, the 237 pages of documents, you know, we read them. And they reveal a number of really interesting things and may even help explain why they didn't want to reveal them. Right. So the first thing that it showed was an email from March.

11th of 2021. So remember, that is just less, that's about four months. That's about three months, excuse me, after the COVID vaccine was first rolled down in December 2020. Okay. Right. So we're just a few months out. Just hitting the ground. And the California Department of Public Health tells the CDC, hey, we're finding cases of COVID in people 21 days after their second dose COVID vaccine. And they even say that these are people who before COVID, they got the COVID vaccine. We frequently tested and who previously tested negative consistently. So they were testing them.

They were always negative. They get the co-vaccine in 21 days after their second shot. All of a sudden, they're testing positive. What's going on, CDC? Yeah. And what should we do? What do we do with these? How do we treat them?

You know, you're telling, we believe your guidance was, you get, get the shot, that's it, you're a stop to further transmission. How do we treat these people that are not having breakthrough infections after COVID vaccine? And the CDC's response is extraordinarily telling. On March 15, 2021, they say, quote, we would recommend that those individuals be treated as infectious, end quote, okay? Meaning treat them as if they can be transmitters. Wait a second.

They're on the news telling us all. It stops with you. This protects everybody. around you, big guilt trip if you don't take you, you're not protecting everyone around you, but they're telling California, those people are probably infectious, look out, you know, treat them as other infectious. And, and, you know, that was March 15, March 29th, you know, the CDC director, to your point, gets on national TV and says, you know, I don't, here's the quote, it says data from the CDC studies suggest the vaccine people do not carry the virus.

don't get sick and that it's not just in the clinical trials, but it's also in real world data, end quote, well, really, that's not what the real world data from California is showing. It gets worse. Mail 10, 2021, there's another SOS email from the California Department of Health to the CDC, and it's saying not only are we seeing infection, we're seeing hospitalizations and death among the vaccinated. And it even provides a survey.

So this, you know, the California Department of Health emails the CDC and says, quote, we have what we think is an unusual outbreak of COVID cases, including hospitalized and fatal cases among fully vaccinated residents of an assisted living facility, end quote. And in the summary chart they provided, and this is the part that's really concerning, it should have been jaw-dropped with the CDC, and you'll see they responded in a way that makes them feel, realize it was. In one instance, the nursing home had 50, the situation that the California Department of Health was writing about. Yeah. It was a nursing home with 50 people. 26 of them got COVID. 25 of them had been vaccinated at least with two shots and at least.

with two shots and at least 26 days had the time period had elapsed after the second shot. Here's the credibly concerning part. Of those 25 people that are fully vaccinated, 50 to 60 percent of them had symptoms and ended up, as they pointed out, hospitalized and two of them died. Think about that. Wow. Right? So this whole idea that at least even if it doesn't, it's protecting you from hospitalization

and death, and now they have proof and evidence that that is not necessarily the case. I mean, look, this is the California Department of Health reaching out to CDC and going, I got this fly attacking. I know. We got this one fly that's escaped in is raining outside to get dry. So, you know, two to three months after the, you've got 50 to 60 percent that are getting hospital, that I've got symptoms, hospitalized are dying out of a total of 50 people in a nursing home. The CDC writes back the next day and in their own word says, quote, very concerning. situation, end quote, and that they have multiple teams at the CDC are tracking this issue. So here we have it May 2021. At the beginning of May 2021, the CDC has real world data

showing from the California Department of Health, not stopping infection, not stop hospitalization, not even stopping death in a nursing home. It should have been highly concerning, but instead we had going to May 16th, though, you know, later that same month, Fauci telling Americans, quote, when you get vaccinated, you become a dead end to the virus. And when there's a lot of dead ends around, the virus is not going to go anywhere. And a few months later, as we all know,

the Biden administration decided to crush the rights of over 100 million Americans, but saying you don't get this product or you don't. Let's remind everybody, this is what that looked like in case you have somehow got a short-term remedy, doesn't remember this. I'm announcing that the Department of Labor is developing an emergency rule to require all employers with 100 or more employees that together employ over 80 million workers to ensure their workforces are fully vaccinated. This is not about freedom or personal choice. It's about protecting yourself and those around you. I mean, it's an amazing moment, you know, the president of the United States

foreseeing and like a truly untested product. There was no, you know, we've been through this a million times. No long-term safety trials could be done in the speed that they did it. But now we know that he's basically saying, I'm going to force this on 80 million Americans so that you can protect your place of work and people around you. And they have knowledge now that this vaccine is failing. people are going to the hospital after being vaccinated, even saying as far as we were testing people

that were totally negative until they got this vaccine. Then they got this vaccine, two doses, and suddenly they're testing positive, they're getting symptoms, they're going to the hospital, and they're even dying. And so we have a president stood in the face of that and took away people's rights, saying that somehow that this benefit that didn't exist

was worthy of destroying our constitutional rights. It's amazing. It is amazing. It's why the right to, to choose whether or not you want a medical product is a fundamental right, what it needs from a sacrosan. We're returning to our fun timeline. Right, let's do it.

You know, so we get that response in June with the production. The next month, we get another response from the CDC to, if you recall, to the FOIA request where we asked for the data use agreement. Right. That was, you know, where Ted and John had made an agreement to not-

Well, they said, hey, we can't give you anything because we have this data use agreement. And we say, give it to us and another FOIA request, well, they responded and they said, sorry, we actually can't find one. Oh, my God. So they never really had a data use agreement, apparently, which might explain why the CDC, if you recall, mid-appeal, was like, ah, yeah, give that back to us, let us process it.

Right. You think the story ends there, it doesn't. We then actually, to speed this out, we submitted a bunch of other appeals relating to all that another request and including we you know we appeal the we actually appealed demanding that they do produce the data use agreement we really wanted to press it we said look you said it exists give it to us we still haven't gotten it to this day confirming it doesn't exist and right you know also press them the adequacy of their search regarding the documents we did get well do you

remember those five doc pages that they sent to the Department of Defense right that they said did DOD has to look at this before we can hand this over to you so maybe I'll end with that and say that So in January of 2023, we finally got those five pages. And they were sent, they were communications that were from a Department of Defense and a Joint Artificial Intelligence Center, JAIC, contractor to the CDC. And in that email to the CDC, this contractor for the DOD and JIC said, and this is an email from July of 2021.

Okay, so we're still way back in the timeline. it said that, quote, at this time we have identified over 80,000 vaccine breakthrough cases. Again, that means got the vaccine, fully vaccinated, waited the requisite time, and then had COVID. 80,000. 80,000 vaccine breakthrough cases among 7 million fully vaccinated, immunized, Medicare beneficiaries, with a 10% hospitalization rate and a 3% death rate, and quote, and just remember, these are the ones they were able to identify based on the debt. that they had, there might have been more. I mean, at that point, going, this is all the back in July

2021, it was, it should have been clear as day. I mean, a 3% death rate is really no higher than what we knew the elderly were suffering, you know, in the natural infection space. I mean, there was this group of people that were at a high risk, the elderly, where it's sort of that 3 to 5%. Everyone below that, below 70, was in the zero something. So it sort of evens out somewhere around, I think, 0.03% or I guess 0.3% if you put everyone into it. But the vaccine clearly then under those circumstances, 10% hospitalization rate, 3% death rate, this vaccine is not achieving anything. As you know, Dell, the CDC has puts out in the MMWR, it's quote unquote newsletter journal with all their studies and their policy is to only publish things that comport with their policy.

So if what you said was true, that certainly wouldn't make it into the, into the published literature that they put out. It's absolutely amazing. I mean, it's really cool to see that journey. And when you think about when people try to understand what they're donating to, like what they're funding when we do this work, and as you said, 1,700 now, you know, FOIA requests, obviously, you know, what we saw there was one that takes a year to get rolling, and then you have to add two or three on the backs of it to get to the information that they keep stalling and

literally lying about, you know, putting roadblocks that don't exist up to try and stall you And all of that, you know, first of all, I just want to thank you that you guys are as focus as you are as organized as you are. It's an amazing team that keeps moving through this and just finally getting to the answer. And then sometimes those answers drive us into court cases and, you know, this incredible record you have. You know, how much has changed just sort of in the team that you've worked with, like from where you've started? I mean, certainly you must be better at this than you were six years ago. And what have you felt like internally is the advantage to being so focused on this work? Like I know other non-profits and things, a lot of people will go out and they can fund, like, specific lawyers that try their hand at a case here, a case there.

How much do you learn by being, you know, for I can consistently delivering foias? And then those cases, it must be sort of building a wealth of knowledge and how you deal with this situation. Oh, it makes us incredibly efficient and more efficient. over time. We learn all the time. And by being a repeat player, by constantly filing for requests, you know, the health agencies understand that, and they complain about it all the time, they understand that we don't let it go, that we will, you know, we will appeal everything. I mean, what we just went through, if I went through every single interaction, every appeal, everything, I would bore your audience to death.

Right. You know, and so we don't let it go. And if we don't accept that are improper, we'll appeal them, they know it, and we'll sue them, which we've done numerous times. So that has a lot of value. So it actually, what it does do is it helps reduce the amount of objections that are improper and appropriate over time. And it also makes it more efficient so that,

you know, if we make a request, we don't necessarily will fight us on every one. They do, they still try, but they, there's a different level of it. And obviously, but being a repeat player, we have an institutional knowledge, an ever-growing team with the more support that you guys provide to do more with the knowledge

that we are gaining within the firm around the products, the issues, the case law, a lot of the cases we do, especially around rights as well, intersect with each other, whether it's representing members of the Air Force who want to get an exemption to a religious exemption, to not get the co-vaccine or are people in Mississippi that want to get their religious exemptions not getting the co-vaccine or just mandates in California or in other places. Those issues all intersect with each other and there's a there's certainly an efficiency

in terms of being able to use that knowledge that we have in some areas in the others. Let's us do a whole lot more than if we just did one-off cases. I mean, you really, you've established a precedence with people that you work with on the other side all the time and they must have to say to each other Are we really going to push back on this? You know they're going to get to the answer eventually. I mean, like that, I mean, I just think how often they must be saying that, yeah, push back anyway. Let's make it like cost more time and money and energy, whatever it is. Aaron, you are absolutely the best.

It's been just an incredible journey working with you and watching this process and learning, getting to learn this process through you and the work that you're doing. We just could not be happier. And said before, I think you're going down in history, man. Really, really important work you're doing here. Thank you, Dow. Appreciate it. All right, thanks for coming in. Studio, so much fun.

Look, you know, if you are out there and you are one of those people that has been donating to the work that we do here at ICANN this whole time, I just want you to take a moment and recognize that you are actually a part of changing the world. You have effectively changed the conversation that started that, you know, was long before I was here, but, you know, that, you know, six, seven years ago when I released the film Vax, No one was talking to us. No politician was discussing this. And now we are not only seeing politicians discussing it. We're seeing it on the news them discussing your right to, you know, to body autonomy and medical choices. I mean, language that we were trying to get in there is now in there. We're winning lawsuits, bringing back the religious exemption to Mississippi, things that people would have said was going to be impossible seven years ago. You have made that happen. I want to say to all of you right now that watched this show all the time, the highway. is really just an educational program for our nonprofit. It was when we started winning lawsuits,

which was the body of the work that we were doing with ICANN, we thought, well, CNN's not gonna cover it, they're funded by pharma. MSNBC is not gonna cover it, they're funded by pharma. We better start our own television shows so that people can see what we're actually discovering through these FOIA requests, through these lawsuit wins.

And so that really was how the high wire was born. And now we've been reporting to you for many, many years. I think this is a show 355, I believe it is. We're on 345 episodes as of today, every single week delivering all the information that we're finding. There is so much work that needs to be done right now. We've got this momentum. We also understand the machine. And I have to tell you, if you think the COVID pandemic was it, and we won it, and it's going off into the sunset. I've said it before. There's so many lawsuits that need to be brought with what they got wrong. And if they ever try to do this again. We need to set that precedence. We've got to be watching what they're

going to try and do with our banking systems. We have to be watching what they're going to try and attempt to do with tracking systems. It may not be vaccines. It may be climate change that they use as a reason for why you need to be tracked in every move you make, where you eat, whether you can move within 15 minutes from your own house. All of this stuff is being looked at by legislations all across this country and the world. This is an international show. You too can help us do this work because as America goes, so will go the world. We have got to win our freedoms back in the space. And for all of you that are watching this incredible program and see, you know, us announce all these legal wins and foias that take us years to get to the end, I really want to

ask you now to become a part of our network, informed consent action network. It helps you be a part of changing the world. I don't think there's anywhere else you can put your money that gives you as an immediate result as you get when you're part of the work that we're doing here. We're not going to stop. We're not going to say no. And all of you that are donate now make it possible for us to stay in this fight. So just go to the top of your website right now. Just click on donate.

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and will get involved in donating to this incredible work for everyone that's made this possible. Just know that without you, all of the lies in television that we've just revealed would have never been known, lies like these. Everyone who takes the vaccine is not just protecting themselves, but reducing their transmission to other people and allowing society to get back to normal. We can kind of almost see the end. We're vaccinating so very fast. Our data from the CDC today suggest that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don't get sick. Getting vaccinated and getting a booster shot when eligible can save your life and protect you and your family and friends from getting seriously ill. and spreading infection. What do you think the probability is 80%? Personally, I think it's 100%.

I think that there's a reduction in transmission. Essentially, vaccines block you from getting and giving the virus. We have all the vaccines we need. We just need our people to take it, A, for their own protection, for the protection of their family, but also to break the chain of transmission. You want to be a dead end to the virus, So when the virus gets to you, you stop it.

You don't allow it to use you as the stepping stone to the next person. Failure to get vaccinated doesn't just put you at risk. I think this is what is important in a way, if it's not you who suffers, if you don't, simply, it's also other people. If you've done the right thing and gotten vaccinated, you deserve the freedom to be safe from COVID-19, to have your kids safe from COVID, to get back to the things you love. You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations. If enough people get vaccinated, it actually halts transmission. The people who are not getting vaccines, you don't have to listen to a minority of people who are being harmful to the greater good

and who are not acting on logic, reason, and science. I want everyone to be vaccinated so that they're safe and so that their families are safe and so that life can feel a little more normal again. Now we know that the vaccines work well enough, that the virus stops with every vaccinated person. person. A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus. The virus does not infect them. The virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people. That means the vaccines will get us to the end of this. As you watch that

and we've shown that many times and I'm always so thankful that these people set all these things on camera so they can be remembered for lying to the United States of America and the world. When you look at those dates, we now know, based on these FOIA requests, we just went through with Aaron, that they knew they were lying to you. And I want you to try to wrap your head around that. That wasn't Pfizer lying to you because they're trying to sell a product. You know, that wasn't Moderna lying to you because they're just going to push some stuff on the rug. That was your own government of the United States of America. Fauci from NIAD and NIH lying to the American public sitting on top of information that they knew

showed the vaccine was useless, maybe even now that we're looking at increasing the risk of infection, taking people that weren't getting infected and ensuring that they would be, they'd be hospitalized, and ultimately suffer a death rate, all of which we said the vaccine would stop. So I want to thank everybody that makes that all possible. I want to thank Aaron Siri, who continues to reveal the truth. And when it comes to revealing truth, there's no one better than Jeffrey Jackson and the Jackson Report. Jeffrey, you know, it's always great to get you here in person because I feel like sometimes, you know, I'm sitting at this desk, and I got you running all over the world trying to figure out what's going on out there. So it's good to know that you're sitting here, you're relaxed.

We've got some new information as always. So thank you for coming in studio today. All right. Thanks, Del. Well, you know, last week, we took a look. at why Bill Gates became involved so much with vaccines. And it was kind of shocking because it turned out it was because it was for depopulation. And as you brilliantly said, he wanted less souls on this planet. Right. And so when Bill Gates speaks, it's important to listen and maybe kind of read between the lines. So as the COVID pandemic was winding down, he made an interesting statement

last year. This was in February. And this is what it looked like in the headlines. He says this. Bill Gates says COVID risks have dramatically reduced. Hey, great. But a Another pandemic is coming. Well, I thought this was a once in a century thing. What are we talking about? And so we're doing an exploratory investigation here because he says this. And then just this month, we see headlines around the world

that say this. Take a look. There's an outbreak in India of a potentially serious virus. Authorities in southern India are rushing to manage an outbreak. An outbreak of the deadly NEPA virus. A virus spread from animals to humans. that causes deadly fever and has a high mortality rate. Some schools are closed banks as well as government offices.

Shops are shuttered and the streets are a bit empty. Police are monitoring vehicles at checkpoints and the state has set up containment zones in the district where the infections are clustered. It's the state's fourth outbreak since 2018 and has left the region on edge. Previous outbreaks do paint a scary picture. During the first one five years ago,

21 out of 23 infected people died. people died because of the NIPAA virus. It has a 40 to 75% mortality rate. NEPA was first identified in 1998 when pig farmers in Malaysia and Singapore began to fall ill. The outbreak ultimately killed more than 100 of the nearly 300 people infected. Data from the World Health Organization shows more than 600 human infections reported between 1998 and 2015. While infectious disease specialists are working to study the source of the source of the

strain of this virus known to be so deadly with the state on high alert. The WHO lists the virus as a pathogen with epidemic potential. I mean, that's a really horrifying sounding disease. I mean, when they say 40 to 75 percent mortality rate, I mean, that's like off the charts of anything that we've ever really seen before. But I do want, before we get deep into this, the one thing I found interesting, I've discussed this with Dr. Ryan Cole and Dr. Robert Malone, Peter McCullough. One of the things that when you look at a virus that is that deadly and you hear the numbers,

it's literally like hundreds have been affected and died over, you know, decades, really. And part of it that I always think is interesting that people don't think about it. They're not like drilling down the way we are into, you know, viruses and things. That when something is that deadly, it actually doesn't spread very very. far because it kills its host. It makes a sort of a deadly poison pill error of its own, which is it's so deadly that people drop dead and therefore it cannot spread. It cannot become like this prolific virus. So viruses tend to get less deadly if they're going to become outbreaks that can get around the world. I just want to point that out before people get too

unbelievably panicked that it's actually hard to get something that deadly. We've never seen something that deadly actually spread around the world because it just stops itself. Exactly, great point. And so there's only been about, like they said, about 600 cases in almost 20 years. Right. And so mostly it's South Asia. We're not talking about America, it's only about five countries, not that that's a good thing, but it's a very small thing. And from my understanding, the NEPA virus is not something that is having these raging mutations like the coronavirus did.

So this is something, just like you said, this is something that is staying fairly stable at this point. But what, you know, with that reporting, and then also seeing a headline like this that just came out of the Daily Mail, It says, next pandemic deem the big one could be the most contagious and deadliest disease known to humanity scientists warns. We're seeing this prepositioning of this. And they're talking there about the NEPA virus. So it's basically a bat-borne zoonotic virus. It causes this infection. You have brain swelling and it has a high mortality rate.

So in 28. Bats need to start a PR campaign because they're really getting the shot end of the stick here. Terrible. So, well, in 2018, so this is. a year obviously before the world knew about the coronavirus, this headline slipped by here. It said, what is the NEPA virus? And in there, they quoted an expert. So listen to this, and you can never guess who this expert was. They said, it's the worst disease. No one has ever heard of, said Dr. John Epstein, Wildlife Veterinarian and epidemiologist for the EcoHealth Alliance.

Oh, wow. So as I'm doing this research, it's like, I don't want to find this stuff, but it's here. So this is what I'm sitting before you right now. So again, EcoHealth Alliance, collaborator, funder of the Wuhan Institute of Virology, a lot of big red flag. Carrying, really the funding out of NIH NIA through Tony Fauci and then into Wuhan Lab. It's sort of like this middleman of American funding going to foreign laboratories to do can of function research. Right. And so EcoHealth Alliance did a study, a six-year study in 2020, and they published that

looking at the NEPA virus. So this is the study right here, NEPA virus dynamics and bats and implications for spillovers to humans. And if you look at the authors, you can see, here's Dr. John Epstein, and then you look a little further, Dr. Peter Dazick. He's in there. And then who's it edited by? Who had the final say in this? Edited by Anthony Fauci, N-I-A-I-D, approved in 2020. And here's the headline it made. Six-year study indicates NEPA virus more widespread than previously thought. So understand, Dr. Peter Dazek, he was the one that orchestrated essentially the Lancet paper that called anybody, questioning the hypothesis of a lab leak coming from Wuhan, a conspiracy theory.

He led the Lancet's COVID origins team, and then he had to recuse himself because of the conflicts of interest there. This is the headline with that. Dazik forced to step down as lead investigator in pandemic's origin. What I'm doing is painting a picture here, because when this guy's name comes up now, we have another red flag. So here's another point to this. In 2019, literally a week before the first coronavirus case was reported in China, we have a

NEPA virus conference. They actually have a whole conference on this. Wow. And who is this, who sponsors it? We have SEPI. This is the organization that was found by Bill and Melinda Gates to accelerate vaccine development. NIH is the other founder or the other sponsor of this. And we look at this conference. We look at day two. Who's presenting at day two? Well, none other than Dr. Shizeng Lee. She is the infamous bat lady at the Wuhan Institute of Virology talking about the NEPA represents a priority pathogen for the Wuhan facility. Okay, well, now we have Wuhan directly implicated in this. So strike three, let's keep going.

Remember in 2019, Johns Hopkins University produced this document, and this was in September. So again, several months before the first coronavirus case, it's called the Preparedness for High Impact Respiratory Pathogen Pandemic. And so what they did was they looked at, well, what do we have in the cards here? What can we focus on that may be a problem for humanity? And in there, there's a graph, there's a little chart. And it says these about eight viruses here. We have a rhinovirus and interovirus, and there's the coronavirus right there.

But right up the ladder is the NEPA virus. It's right in there with the coronavirus. And just a couple months after that, that document was produced, we have Event 201, the infamous Event 201. So if anybody forgot about that, that's when Johns Hopkins did a tabletop exercise with all the luminaries of the CDC, a Chinese public. health. We had Johnson and Johnson in there. We had messaging people from big tech. And they said, let's just pick something out of the hat. How about a coronavirus just sweeps the current? In fact, right here it says. So you're saying they had this list. NEPA's on there, rhinovirus, but they selected coronavirus. Let's run a giant sort of, you know, real world,

you know, fake virtual real world test. Right, right. What was the date when they're running that again? That's basically one month before the first case is reported. Okay. So, so, one month before they run it. Yep. And so we look at Event 201. You go to the website here, and this is what it says. Event 201 simulates an outbreak of a novel, zoonotic, coronavirus transmitted from bats to pigs to people that eventually becomes efficiently transmissible from person to person leading to a severe pandemic. What are the odds?

Well, don't just believe me. Let's just go back into history. Here's a little bit of what that look like. On behalf of our center and our partners, the World Economic Forum and the Bill of Melinda Gates Foundation, I'd like to extend a very warm welcome to our audience here in New York, as well as our larger virtual audience participating online today. The Event 201 scenario is fictional. Today's scenario is going to simulate meetings of a multi-stakeholder group called the Pandemic Emergency Board. We're at the start of what's looking like it will be a severe pandemic.

And there are problems emerging that can only be solved by global business and governments working. together. There's been some conspiracy theories that are around about the potential that pharmaceutical companies or the UN have released this for their own benefit. And maybe this is a time for us to showcase some cases where we are able to bring forward some bad actors and leave it before the courts to decide whether they have actually spread some fake news. A new coronavirus. Infected people got a respiratory illness with symptoms ranging from mild flu-like signs to severe pneumonia. use a significant demand for personal protective equipment like N95 masks and gloves are on the

rise. Haitians are overwhelming health care facilities. People are avoiding public spaces out of fear of infection and in compliance with public health recommendations. Our U.S. Affiliate has just released polling results on public expectations for a vaccine, and 65% of those polled are eager to take the vaccine, even if it's experimental. I'm not optimistic about having a vaccine in time to be relevant during this pandemic. With enough money and political will, anything is possible. Penalties have been put in place

for spreading harmful falsehoods, including arrests. If the solution means controlling and reducing access to information, I think it's the right choice. It is so incredible every time I watch that, to think that that was before COVID happened, literally predicting using statements like misinformation. People out there trying to say

that this virus isn't real or that it's not as bad as it is. N95 masks, shutting businesses down. We're just going to have to do it. We have to maybe arrest people that push back against these measures. I mean, it is so, it was Shakespeare, you know, says, you know, all the world is a stage. Clearly when you watch this, we are all just a bunch of underpaid actors, a part of what they plan. I mean, this went exactly like they planned it going with the exact virus they were planning on. At the very least, we're going to take the people that planned that to Vegas, because those odds are incredible. Amen. Amen. So. So, So here's another data point we want to pay attention to.

In 2020, there was an issue in Canada that came out. Here's the headline for this, and we'll track this story. Canadian scientists sent deadly viruses to Wuhan lab months before the Royal Canadian Monopolees asked to investigate. This is CBC News. It says Dr. Xiang Gao Chu, her husband, Keating Chang and her students from China were removed from China's only level four lab over what's described as a possible policy breach. The Public Health Agency of Canada had asked the Royal Canadian Monopole.

to get involved several months earlier. Well, what do they do? One of the things they did was they sent these, this huge list, viruses from that Canadian lab to the Wuhan lab. The list includes two vials each of 15 strains of virus. And you can see here we got some Ebola, we got some other nasty stuff. And at the bottom there, we have NEPA Malaysia, NEPA Bangladesh, the two versions of this. So in fairness, in this article, it says Public Health Agency Canada said the shipments and choose eviction from the lab are not connected. But perhaps a different picture on here is painted by a law professor and epidemiologist at the University of Ottawa, Amir Atteron. And he said this in the article, as he's quoted. He said, we have a researcher who is removed by the Royal Canadian Mount of Police

from the highest security laboratory that Canada has for reasons that the government is unwilling to disclose. The intelligence remains secret. But what we know is that before she was removed, She sent one of the deadliest viruses on Earth and multiple varieties of it to maximize the genetic diversity and maximize what experimenters in China could do with it to a laboratory in China that does dangerous gain of function experiments and that has links to the Chinese military. It goes on to say in Canada, in Canada gain of function experiments to create more dangerous pathogens in humans are not prohibited but are not done because they are considered too dangerous, Adiron said. So he goes on to say the Wuhan lab does them and we have now supplied them with a bulletin. Pola and NEPA viruses. It does not take a genius to understand that this is an unwise decision, he said. So there's... It's amazing. You have a virus that, as you said earlier, is just sort of stuck in Asia. In fact, it's a couple hundred people before it wipes itself out. Unless you start

shipping this stupid thing all over the world into laboratories in every country in the world. Now who's spreading it? The scientists that are telling us that they're protecting us. I mean, we say it over and over again, but it's insane. Right, right. And so the, the The final equation to this is, well, at least they're not injecting people with a NEPA vaccine because that would just be too much. Well, if you go to clinical trials.gov, we do have a phase one trial now in progress. So anybody can go look this up. It's called dose escalation, open label clinical trial to evaluate the safety, and it's an MRNA vaccine. And if you look at the sponsor, it's NIAID and its collaborators, Moderna, from Texas. So we have

Moderna, working with an IAD to get a vaccine involved in this for a NEPA virus. So it does say in full disclosure on this, it says that people cannot spread this if they're in fact, if they're being vaccinated in this phase one trial. We take their word for it, I guess, until we know otherwise. But this is this is what we're. I mean, again, you're talking about a vaccine for, as we've said, a virus that at the moment can't spread more than 100 people. But are they going to then, you know, still vaccinate seven billion people in order to particularly the fact that 500 might have, and then you've got this probably the same thing, spike, whatever it ends up being for NEPA that the MRNA is targeting, putting that in

your body, having your cells produce it, it just doesn't stop. And this MRI technology is obviously not 100% proven yet. We're going to go to a story. You think? I think we've kind of covered the fact that this MRAD technology is really not maybe all it's cracked up to me. Right. Let's shift gears for a second.

Let's take a breath because it was a pretty heavy segment. We've been covering here this mental health crisis, not in America, but also in the world that's happening. We're seeing headlines like this. It's therapists that are throwing up their hands. We have this at Time Magazine. America has reached peak therapy. Why is our mental health getting worse? Therapists are saying it's not working anymore.

And we've shown here on this show one of the main tools in the therapist toolbox, the antidepressants, the whole science that underpins them is in question now. So people are looking, and regulators and attorneys general are looking for, Other ways to maybe curb this mental health crisis, and one of them is happening through over 40 AGs in states across America. They have signed on to a lawsuit here. This is the Wall Street Journal. It says states sue meta alleging harm to young people on Instagram and Facebook. These are 42 attorneys general.

And they're saying that meta designed its Facebook and Instagram products to keep young users using them longer with addictive qualities and their algorithms. And we have AGs from, I mean, New York, New Jersey, California, Michigan. All of them, basically, the majority of them are signing on to this. This is a multi-state complaint. You can see it here if you want to read it. It's over 103 pages. You can get the show notes on Monday if you sign up for the newsletter. But this whole conversation was really spearheaded by the Wall Street Journal.

They led a series of investigations in there. Whistleblower came to them, gave them some internal documents from Facebook, from Meta, saying, look, internally, we're having conversations about this, and there's some things I think the public should know. So Wall Street Journal did a whole series on this. Now, full disclosure, having looked at internal documents from, you know, Fauci and the lab leak and all of that, this isn't a data dump. These are curated documents. So we're seeing screenshots of the studies that internal scientists did at meta. But this is one of the articles here. This is 2021. Facebook knows Instagram is toxic for teen girls, company documents show. And they're showing there's teen mental health issues that Facebook knew about and they played down. And it says in there in five presentations over 18 months to this spring, the researchers conducted what they called a teen mental health deep dive and follow-up studies.

They came to the conclusion that some of the problems were specific to Instagram and not social media more broadly. So for instance, they found one in five teens say Instagram makes them feel worse about themselves. Another one, teens who struggle with mental health say that Instagram makes it worse. But it's interesting because the social comparison was worse for Instagram. So you have like TikTok and Snapchat. These are what the kids are using. Facebook is kind of, I mean, I've been reading these articles. Facebook is kind of looked at it.

It's like an adult social media platform now. The kids are using TikTok and Snapchat. And they said, TikTok is a video player. So it's more centered around video performance. And Snapchat is more centered on like the face with funny filters. Instagram is more the body and lifestyle. So it's saying this, by its very nature, this product's design is, it can make people and are making young girls feel bad about themselves leading to eating disorders and things like that. So this is kind of the idea of this complaint where it stems from.

So Meta fired back, Facebook fired back in 2021 at the Wall Street Journal, and they said this, what the Wall Street Journal got wrong. And in this article, part it says, at the heart of this series by the Wall Street Journal is an allegation. that is just plain false that facebook conducts research and then systematically and willfully ignores it if the findings are inconvenient for the company it's a claim which could only be made by cherry picking selective quotes from individual pieces of leak material in a way that presents a complex and nuance issue as if there is only ever one right answer regardless though in 2021 facebook paused its work on instagram kids so it was working on this this thing for instagram kids for 13 and under of a version of that, after teen mental health concerns.

And just recently, an ex-Meta employer, he was a employee, he was a former engineering director at Instagram and Facebook. He was at Congress doing basically a testimony. ExMeta employee says his warnings of Instagram's harm to teens were ignored. So this is obviously an issue that's getting a lot of momentum. We have legal, we have congressional. But what I find interesting about this topic is we just went through three years of the most liberty-killing free speech annihilation by big tech with these same AGs who when people brought up questions about

lockdowns which accelerated the mental health crisis these AGs said nothing about these lockdowns in fact they said they signed on they helped the government the federal government censor people even further for bringing up these questions and the judiciary committee just released an in-term report to drive this point home even further and this was it right here how the federal government partner with universities to censor Americans political speech. And it gave in this report, it gives this graphic. It shows how the federal government, CISA, that's the cybersecurity and infrastructure agency under Department Homeland Security, it worked with Stanford. Now, Stanford was supposed to be just a minor piece of this. It shows Stanford quarterbacking this whole thing. And it says this, this is really

the most concise piece of this thing. It says after President Biden was inaugurated in January 2021, the government censorship regime ramped up. At CISA, the foreign influence task force team dropped any pretense of a foreign focus and relabeled itself as the MDM team. That would focus on foreign and domestic speech that the government considered misdiscis or malinformation. Throughout 2021, the Biden White House engaged in a pressure campaign against Facebook and other social media companies to censor anti-vaccine content, even if it was true.

And that went for lockdowns too. So that's just a nuanced part of the story. but it's why is all this focus, as it should be, on the team mental health crisis, these algorithms, if they're designed to target kids, yes, but the greater point of this entire lockdown complex that was happening, that was accelerated. That's my point on this. And we have the EU Digital Services Act in the EU, obviously, in the UK Online Safety Act that's happening. These are now law. In fact, we're going to be sent, you know, we're on the verge of being censored on the high wire for talking about stories like this from the AGE is just saying, look, we've got to stop Instagram, but we're also

going to be a part of stopping anyone that talks about the issues on Instagram. And, you know, I want to say, you know, just take a moment here. Actually, let me just talk to the audience. This is one of those stories where you can sit there and go, oh my God, that's terrible. I hope they do something about that because my poor daughter, you know, is getting her self-esteem is getting knocked down. There's also a lot of studies showing the amount of dolts and predators that are reaching out to these young girls between the age of 13 and 15 in these spaces. This is one of those moments that I really hope that no one in our audience right now is saying, I just don't know what to do about this. We're powerless. You're not powerless.

It's time to become a parent again. It's time to get involved in your children's lives and get the Instagram out of their phone. It also does another thing. Instead of waiting for the government to incentivize these companies to be better companies, how about you use your dollars to vote and tell those companies, you're not getting any of our dollars, you're not going to advertise to my kids or my family, because we don't use your product because it is not taking the safety of us or our children in line. So please, this week, one of the things you can really get active with is with your own parenting, with your own children. Yes, there's going to be some screaming, there's going to be some crying, but then go ahead and go out and plant some trees.

They'll be grown in the spring and start doing something productive with their lives anyway. I'm not preaching here. It's we're having the same issue at our home. These are discussions we have to have. I have a teenage son and a young daughter. This is what it's about. Our parents had to, you know, take things away. I remember my mom, even removing a friend, she just thought was a bad influence.

This is that friend that is in your kid's room every hour. That door is shut talking to them, you know, making them feel bad, affecting their consciousness. I think, you know, Jeffrey about, you know, the transgender. that we had on that said, Luca, that, you know, had, you know, said that it was online that she was first, like, being coaxed into thinking that it was her gender that was wrong and that she should cut her body apart. And then when she started trying to push back, then they made her feel guilty. I mean, there's a whole thing going on here, and parents are just looking the other way as though somehow it's not going to affect them. These numbers are scary, 25%, one in five, whatever.

Yeah. And those are real numbers. Yeah, and so there's no easy answer to this mental health crisis, obviously, and we're throwing a lot of things at this, and it's going to take a multifaceted approach. But we'll see where this goes. I'd like to see a full spectrum approach to that. I also want to say really quickly, one of the things that is scary about this is I do see politicians saying we need to take away of the protections from these social media so that they can be sued. We have to be really careful about that, because if they can be sued, then they're definitely going to start taking things. off of their program that can be like the high wire and things like that because they want to be liable for things that I'm saying or you're saying or anyone's

saying it will change this whole space in which we have had this ability to speak freely so everyone should really think twice there's a lot of nuance this conversation there sure is and that's why I mentioned those two those two EU Digital Services Act and the UK Online Safety Act these are already in effect and the Trojan horse was to protect kids but now they're saying we're gonna look at misinformation for health that targets kids and we're also need to look at all your encryption and all your back-end messages. We want access to everything. So you got that's that's the problem

with this. So we're gonna jump into some science here for this next investigation. And so in 2021, I mean, we were tracking the whole push of the COVID vaccine, this experimental vaccine on pregnant women. Yeah. It's the last person you're ever supposed to give any type of experimental pharmaceutical medication to, but it was full force. And in 2021 it came to a head. Here's CNN headline. CDC to pregnant women. get vaccinated against COVID-19. It's as simple as that. So you have pediatricians, you have CDC FDA just saying pregnant women get this. Now they have a new problem. It's not getting vaccine. It's not getting pregnant women vaccinated. It's this. Take a look.

United States is seeing an increase in infant deaths. More babies in the United States are dying before they ever reach their first birthday. According to the CDC, more than 20,500 babies died before their first birthday last year. The U.S. infant mortality rate is not for the first time in more than 20 years, and that's according to a report released by the National Center for Health Statistics. It's a sudden change that has a lot of us worried as pediatricians, as public health experts. The increase may seem small, but it's the first statistically significant jump in the rate since the increase between 2001 and 2002. Nationwide, the infant mortality rate has been falling for decades, so the sudden spike is alarming. And it's clearly going on the wrong direction and has a lot of us really worried about what might be going on here.

I mean, it's amazing when you hear something like that, like the first time we've seen a rise like this in 20 years. And again, I just want to state, right? Like when we, you know, when I look at an issue like this, I don't think you have to be a rocket scientist. And it's amazing to see how they will spin around all the reasons we're seeing upticks. And we talked about increases in excess mortality. Now it's the babies that are being infected. And I always just want to say, you know, to somebody that's maybe new at looking at these conversations, and maybe just watching the high water for the first time,

when you get food poisoning, right, and you find yourself, as we've all had that moment in the bathroom, having a horrific time of it, what is the first thing you ask yourself? What did I eat last night? Right? When you suddenly see an uptick in deaths in infants for the first time in 20 years,

the first thing that should be asked is what did mothers do over the last year or two that was different than they were doing before that? Well, we know one product you told them all to take, Why don't we start there? Instead, they don't start there. They avoid and attack anyone that wants to ask that question. Right.

Yeah, and so obviously, as you said, they're kind of spitballing. We don't know. We have to look into this. It's going to need more research. What could it possibly be? I don't know. And so we're going to do the same thing here on the show. And so, you know, here's the AP-U.S.

Infant Mortality rate rose last year. CDC says it's the largest increase in two decades, like you just said. And then you have Time, Time magazine, American's infant mortality rate is increasing. In there, it says the total number of infant deaths, as well as the rate at which they occur, has increased at times in the last few decades. Indeed, both rose just a year earlier from 2020 to 2021, but says Danielle Ely, the lead author of the CDC's new report that reflected a year 2021 when more babies were being born than

the previous year in 2020, which was at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, the even larger rise in infant mortality in 2022 was a bit of a surprise. She says given a decade-long downward trend. And you can see a chart here, just to give you an idea instead of me reading. Look at that red towering bar on the right. There's that trend they're talking about. And you can see most of that's negative, looking back 20 years. What happened?

Again, what happened there? So let's just jump right to it. So this is the CDC's vital statistics rapid release report. If anybody wants to look at this more in depth, this is where this report came from these numbers. And it's interesting. It says in there, the mortality rate increased significantly. significantly only for male infants from 2021 to 2022. The mortality rates increase for two of the 10 leading causes of death,

maternal complications and bacterial sepsis. So we know that males historically are more susceptible to complications at birth, to anything like that, also to vaccine injury. We look at autism, you know. I think it's usually four times as prevalent in boys the issue. And so when we look at the numbers at autism, at 1 in 34, depending on what study you're looking at, when you look at the boys, that's all in together.

When you take the girls out of it, boys are somewhere in the 18 to 1 in 20 boys maybe being diagnosed with autism. So that's where you sort of see that in real time. So there's this obvious, it's amazing, right? Because we think of the male, you know, the men as being the strong ones. But really, time and time again, if you look at a lot of health and sciences, women are, especially as babies and, you know. coming into this world or much stronger.

Absolutely. Absolutely. So if there's something going on, it's going to affect the males and that's what we're seeing. So let's just jump right to it. So the European Medicines Agency received an assessment, so an application for marketing authorization by Pfizer in 2020. And they gave, Pfizer gave this for their commonarity vaccine, and they are assessing this report.

And in this EMA report, they say this, The sole, the sole, the only product-related impurity addressed is double-stranded RNA, derived from the in vitro transcription reaction, results from the active substance batches demonstrate that the level of double-stranded RNA is low, acceptable, and consistent. So what's it saying there? They're saying, we have one problem. There's some double-stranded RNA in here, and it's from that in vitro transcription reaction. We talked about that plasmid they used to scale this thing up.

There's some parts in there, some DNA that we talked about. Contaminations. They're in there. There's double-stranded DNA is floating around a little bit. We think it's going to be okay, though. Yeah, I think it's going to be okay. And so we have double-stranded RNA. So now, let me introduce another topic here.

There are another name, Polly-I, Polly-C. This is, you can go to a website and buy this if you're a scientist. Polly-I-Poly-C, you can read it right here. It says, is structurally similar to double-stranded RNA. Okay. present in some viruses and is therefore commonly used to model the actions of extracellular double-stranded RNA. So this is what researchers use. They say, look, okay, something might be contaminated with double-stranded RNA.

Let's use poly-eye, poly-c, and we can see what this does in the cell. This is a synthetic version of that. Right. So let's go way back to 1969. There's a study published in nature using poly-eye polycy, and it's titled Embryotoxic effect of Polyi-PolyC. And it says here, right, the first sentence, it says, Polyi, PolyC, a synthetic double-stranded RNA is an effective inducer of interferon.

Now, so you have this polyi-poli-C, it's in the body. It produces an immune reaction, interferon. Now, interferon is basically part of the body's natural defense. It's a signaling protein. Right. Yep. And it brings natural killer cells to the party, basically. It breaks important.

It sort of degrades at MRNA. Yeah. It stops viral. replication basically so something's in there this alerts it it it comes out kills it basically kills it yep so what they did was they took this polyi polycy these researchers that that that has that induces that reaction and they injected it into rabbits to see what would happen to pregnant rabbits well let's look at the chart this is what they looked at so they have a saline they did they saline

control and you follow that saline control across and only seven percent of the rabbits had resorptions so resorptions are basically the disillusion of the fetus, goes back into the body. Now you have the Palii-I-PolyC on the left. You have 1 milligram and 2 milligrams that were injected. At 1 milligram, you have 80% resorptions. And at 2 milligrams, you have 100% resorptions. So that led the authors to write this.

The results indicate that the mechanisms of this marked embryotoxic effect is of fundamental importance. If Palii-I-Polycy is embryo-toxic by virtue of interferon induction, and then Rubella and other viruses may exert their known embryotoxic effects by this mechanism. Now get ready for this next quote. Remember, this is 1969. They spoke a little freely back then. They write, the possibility also exists that Palii-Polysis or related agents may be of value in population control.

Wow. So here you have this sort of double-stranded RNA that is also just like Polly-I policy. They're running these tests. This stuff, it was in a product, could be good for reducing population. It's going to reduce the ability for women to give birth. It's going to attack the fetus and make it non-viable. Right. And it induces this interferon reaction.

Now, people can go actually get interferon. So it's helpful if you have a disease you have like hepatitis C. You can go get interferon treatments to kind of kickstart your immune system to really attack these things. So if you get these treatments, there's actually disclaimers before you get them. And let's look at a couple of these disclaimers. It says the importance of interferon infertility. Infertility, it says, is an occasional side effect of interferon use and can affect both men and women. Male infertility from interferon can be reversed after a few months or years, not for women.

And then it goes on to say, anyone who wants to become a parent or who is going to be treated with interferon should talk to their doctor about freezing their sperm or eggs before the procedure. Interferons have been considered apoptosis-inducing cytokines. So they go in there and they basically kill cells. and the fetus is developing fetus are cells. These are developing cells. Brace Smith, Bart kills it. Yep. And so let's just bring this home here.

So we're looking through the literature, and we have the most recent Nobel Prize winner in medicine were the creators of the MRNA technology or part of the MRNA technology. One of them was Katlyn Carrinko, and she won the 23 Nobel Prize for Medicine for how to modify mRNA to make it a more effective therapeutic. in 2011 while looking for, while doing that study, those studies, this is one of the papers she wrote of that MRNA technology. She's generating the optimal MRNA for therapy. And she's saying there's, she's looking for purification to eliminate the immune activation.

And she says this, or this paper writes, we identify that contaminants, including double-stranded RNA in nucleoside modified, in vitro transcribed RNA, are responsible for innate immune activation and the removal by high performance liquid chromatography results in MRI that does not induce IFNs and inflammatory cytokines. So what she's saying there is in this in vitro transcript, well, we're making this RNA, double-stranded RNA is happening, but you can get it out of there if you want because you're probably going to want to get it out there because it induces this huge immune response.

Which is what interferon is. It's an immune response. So here you have the maker of the mRNA vaccine saying we have this little trouble some side effect of what we're working with here, double-stranded RNA. And now you have, was it, Pfizer reporting, we've got these little pesky things floating around inside this vaccine. It's the only issue it has, but don't worry about it. It's not going to be a problem. And we're looking at a body of science that shows you, no, that is most likely, you know, potential for leading to infertility and all the issues we're seeing. I just, when I think about this, I think about what we did

report, as you said at the top of this segment, which is Bill Gates said, I'm not. I'm I want to reduce the population. That is my number one goal. I don't want to give vaccines to kids if it makes them healthier and they live longer. Oh, wait a minute. It helps them, you know, have fewer kids or for whatever reason it's gonna make the population less.

As I said, there's gonna be less souls in the world. If I vaccinate them, let's do that. And then you see what we're seeing now, reports of the highest infant mortality rates that we have seen in decades. This thing just keeps getting worse and worse. And it is, you know, everyone knows that I've said it before. I'm not a conspiracy.

In fact, I challenge, I'm skeptical of all of it. But it is getting really, really hard to not see that with all this knowledge, there wasn't some purposeful, you know, thinking behind what they're allowing to be contaminants in this product and all the work and these contaminants we're talking about. It's really, really scary. And to think, again, that government that we said earlier on with Aaron Siri that's lying to you on television is now telling you to go out and get this while you're pregnant, still telling you to get it, even though it's saying, we have no idea why there's this

rise in mortality. And obviously it's important here for the regulatory. It says regulatory agencies versus the researchers. So obviously we want the regulatory agencies to do the right thing. But it's important. Researchers can make a huge impact here. So independent labs, labs and universities that are allowed to do this work, they can do this work. So they can publish independently.

You don't have to wait for the regulatory agency. So get this out there. If you're a researcher, you're seeing this and going, I do this in my lab. I'm going to do this research. This can help this conversation further. Yeah. Incredible reporting. Jeffrey, as always, I mean, it's really, really fascinating. It's a fascinating study of humanity right now that these people are not speaking out,

and they're pushing things under the rug, and we are seeing the results of it. Excess mortality higher than we've seen it. Infant mortality. We're watching populations crashing, problems in Japan, saying we're not going to be able to take care of our elderly because of the population. All this is a crisis of our own making, which is it the hard of what I can is. right our mission statement dedicated to eradicating man-made disease it's so important what you're doing i think we're having in fact we've got a lot of work to do that's right that's right we'll keep up the good work thanks for coming in today thank you down well you know it's what we all have got to sort of be consciously involved with what we're doing right the decisions that we make the

responsibility for those decisions for those scientists and doctors that are out there i want to say right now i know most of you inside the cdc inside the the NIH, probably inside of Pfizer and Moderna, got into that work to make the world a safer place. But now you're realizing as you're doing that work, and maybe you've been compartmentalized, but there's an aha moment where you say, my God, wait a minute, there's plasmids in the vaccine. I know that's not good. Double-stranded RNA rises in all-cause mortality across the world. And I was a part of the only product I know that was given across the world.

at some point, you're going to want to be a whistleblower. You're going to want someone that either helps you get your legal protections and to start coming out. And by the way, I want to let you know this, that when you sue for fraud or the things that are out there, you have a potential to make hundreds of millions of dollars. So there's a real incentive to actually speak the truth. We'd love to help you with that. All you have to do is reach out to us at whistleblower at iKentdecide.org.

And we will work with you privately to make sure that your information gets to the places and that you're protected the right way I want to really there it is whistleblower at I can decide.org a very important part of the work that we do here some you know much of you know some of the reporting we're doing here is with people that don't want to be made public that are supplying us with where to look what that information is yes so if you're at the CDC if you're at the FDA your neighbor may be talking to us right now you better think about that we when we think about that responsibility we think about our

responsibility in life, to our families, to our children, looking forward. Really, there's no one that I think that came before me in this conversation that stood out when no one else did. I'm talking about Jenny McCarthy Wahlberg, who was just a pioneer in waking up the world to the fact that, you know what, it turns out there is this pharmaceutical product that isn't necessarily perfectly safe and perfectly effective. She was all alone, but luckily for her, she found love and someone that has supported her in all of her work. We have watched this meyoric turnaround in her career and their lives are something we've watched.

It's a beautiful thing and it looks something like this. Hi people. I'm Jenny. And I'm Donnie and we're the Rawlers. Welcome to our home. Oh! Here to the bottom. Shetton!

Shepton! Shepton! Hey! I can't believe we've been married for seven years, which is a good thing, because it feels like it's only been about a year. Like, everything's really exciting. We still FaceTime sleep together every night and we're not together.

I can't wait for him to come home. My friends think up crazy. We're just lucky in love, I will say. I love you so much that I want to line your body with felt and cuddle with you for the rest of my life. I want to take you and grind you up on a cheese grater and sprinkle you over my pasta. Don't let anyone hear you, it was whisper dirty to me.

His tone reminded me of A-Con, so I think this could be A-Con. I've been sneaking in and out. Oh my God! Donnie also stars on Blue Bloods, so when exactly are you gonna find a time? And Walburgers and Rock This Boat. I mean, how amazing that you went from being in this huge band to being like a serious actor who everybody really admires and respects. You and take care of him, all right? That's my brother. You hear me? I know.

Take care of him. She's a wonderful woman. She's very smart. She's very intelligent. She's a great mom. All the single moms out there think, God, I don't know if anyone's going to want to take me on with my child. Because, you know, you come as a package deal. That's right.

And thinking about Donnie, how he's opened his heart to Evan. And Evan looks at him and refers to him as dad. He knows he has another dad, but really he feels that much love towards Donnie and the bond that they have. So great. Oh, my gosh. Did you draw this? Yes. Dear Donnie, happy birthday.

I've been having so much fun with you and you are the greatest stepfather ever, Evan Asher. Watching Evan give Donnie a homemade birthday card made my heart explode. I really am an incredibly lucky man to be Evan's stepdad and to be your husband and to now be friends and standing side by side with so many people who are here in support and looking for hope and help for their children. Welcome to the Autism Education Summit. It's now my pleasure to introduce Jenny McCarthy.

Come sit by you guys. All right, it doesn't matter wherever you want to go. But if you get too close, my husband will kick your . We are so incredibly proud and honored to be executive producers on the amazing documentary film Spellers. Whether you are impacted by autism in your life personally or not, this film will change your life. Donnie is so graciously going to perform

his first solo concert for my charity Generation Rescue. Any time I can be associated with something that is about hope, that's something that's gonna really be a draw to me. Every single day, I go, thank you God for him coming into my life. We're a couple first, we're parents, we're a daughter and a son and friends.

I mean, we're part of a community. You know, we're celebrities, you know, 8th or 9th on the list. He has magical powers. I love you. And we work. This, it's work. We love each other.

It's fun, but we put in the time. I love him. Well, it's my absolute honor and pleasure to have Jenny McCarthy Walberg and Donnie Walberg in that house. You guys rock. I love you, Drew. So good. Oh, my God.

So good. Today, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, Donnie Walberg McCarthy. Donnie Walberg McCarthy. All right. We can switch it up because that's what we do. It's the modern age. I'm just in awe of her, so I just, yeah. Yeah, I'm changing my last name today.

You know, we talk about, obviously, this is a health-based show, but one of the most important things in health is love, I think, right? And happiness and joy. And Jenny, you know. It's the only thing you can be with you at the end. Yeah. You know. Yeah.

How do you guys do it? I mean, like, you're so busy. I mean, and people don't know this. Like, I'll call you and say, you know, I'm learning to be in town, or can we get this thing or the fact like asking you could you come out and be in studio together i mean that's almost impossible i mean you've got you know your whole world going your show blue blood you've got it's incredible hit with mass singer and then all the other things that you're doing the non-profits you're involved with uh we're all racing we're in such a busy time what's your

secret you know to the moments you have together where do we start but i would say um it's with a good foundation. We also had similar upbringings, so we appreciate and understand our work ethics. You know, a lot of people can get bummed out, but we understand how important it is to have your own path, but to also hold hands with your partner on that path. Checking in with each other, doing the work. We did some work on the way here. Work meaning relationship. What is that mean? communicating, you know. Checking in.

Yeah, checking in. Sometimes, you know, we go, we renew our vows every year. Wow, cool. Some people make fun of that. We think it's great. It's like getting married all over again and we have that love and we reconnect on that deep way. But sometimes, you know, this has been a unique year, you know. I was away on Blue Bloods.

Last season, we were still testing for COVID five days a week up until April. Wow. Yeah, it was. He was like the last show. Getting it up the nose. I was like, I can't smell anymore. But, you know, Jenny was home, and it was like, all right, let me just be responsible, be here at the show and not run around and do all the other stuff I do.

So I kind of was there, and she was home, and then I came home and had a long break, and she had to go do Masked Singer a couple of times. So we were just apart a little bit more. But the checking in on the plane, the work on the plane is just, you know, if ever we feel like we're just becoming that couple that's just existing and not connecting and not communicating and not being on the same vibration, you know, then we check in. We reconnect to that higher love that we have because we don't want to become just a couple. And when, you know, Jenny says, I have to go down to Austin. I got to go do this thing with down. It's like, then you go. It's like,

you know, in that clip that played at the beginning, it said we're celebrities ninth or 10th on the list. That's true. That's that's that's our work and you know I'm in a band that is blessed with the greatest fans in the world I mean truly they are my extended family and I love them dearly and um but that said you know it's that's about love too that's about celebrity right so when we when I know she loves something is passionate about it I have her back on it and she's the same with me and that's just that's just how we are I always think that when I you know when you see celebrity couples that you know, we all get invested, we see the table and they break up or it falls apart. And I just think it's hard when the person you're with really actually loves what they do.

Like you said, you're both have a major work ethic. You're everywhere. But it is a love, a passion. A lot of people go to work, they kind of can't stand it. They get home and she's like, oh, baby. But it's different when you have something in your life that you truly, you know, it's like your other spouse. Like it's the thing I really actually love what I'm doing every day. That's right. That's right. I mean, if you don't have that, then you find a hobby together that you both really love.

Could be pickleball. Yeah. But we learn from each other, too, you know. If I, and we've just been successful at it. And it is work. It takes time to question. You know, I'm a person who likes information. You know, it's why I love you. It's you give information. I love the high wire. I get information. I want all the information I can get to make decisions. You know, we give each other information and we seek it from each other. You know, if Jenny's going to work, we talk about it. And when we're not asking enough questions, she'll say, you know, I want to talk to you about what's going on with me, you know, at work. And I'm like, okay, great, let's talk about it. But, you know, it's really important. Go ahead, I'm sorry.

There's a great question if people want to know that you can ask your partners. Yeah. What can I do better? Yeah. What can I be doing? You actually ask that of each other. Yeah. You say, what can I do?

Or what can I say or do to connect with you right now? You know, when we're disconnected as people, in any situation. to work right here, home, you know, it's very hard to let your guard down and reach, we call it reaching through the thorns or the barbed wire, right? To put your, be vulnerable and ask a question. And, you know, just saying something as simple as, you know, knowing you're disconnected, what can I say or do to connect with you right now? It's a very sort of takes the sting off of everything. It is really putting yourself forward to say, I want to be connected, you know, I want to feel that thing we feel and it's not here.

What can I do to help? And that's an invitation for your partner to come in and help as well. I love that. Simple, right? It's pretty simple. A lot of people want to know like how this beautiful thing started. I think we have a, I believe we've got video of like the first time you guys were actually take a look at that.

Possibly, possibly. Take a look at this. Jenny McCarthy. The dare is drawing a mustache on herself with this shirt. Sharpie. Will she do it? Donnie Walbur. Wow, you might have found one thing in the world she wouldn't do. I think, I think she would do like a cool pencil-than mustache, so I would have to say yes, she would do it. Jenny McCarthy?

Yes, I would. Oh my God. My question is for Donnie. Donnie. Can you just go back to the mustache? Go back, there you go. Look at that. That is so hot.

That is awesome, man. I wasn't even flirting with him there. I told myself, do not flirt with her. Because we didn't know each other. You didn't know each other at all? We did not. How did you get chosen to both sort of be on that? Just happen to be that way.

Show at the same time. Yeah, I knew who she was, of course. I knew some things about her. But I didn't know a lot. I didn't, right? Yeah, we can talk about that too. But I made a point, do not flirt with her. She probably gets hit on every time she does an interview,

every time it's another guy's, don't do it. And she told me she said the same thing. think if we look back and we're like oh my god we're flirting the whole time we were trying not to we were trying not to but then you know a few months later he came on my talk show and i was like oh he's he's smart and funny and interesting and hot and all these things and long story short i gave my number it took two weeks to call me but it's okay but then we we both started feeling it early on and i think it was like a few dates that i kind of came to him with one of those warnings you see before a film was like the old VHS days like

like an FBI warning. Yeah. I'm like, I gotta just warn you a little bit about being with me. If you don't know my past, it could be, you could walk around with, you know, a bull's eye underback. And I don't know if you want to pick up the rest. No, I mean, well, first of all, to those who don't know, I know everyone does, but her past in terms of, you know, autism and Evans' journey and her, you know, standing up, you know,

to the machine, you know, for me, I didn't know a lot about that with her. I didn't know. We went into it. We actually made another choice. Like, I made a choice. I'm not Googling about you. I'm going to get to know you for you. It's got to be so, I mean, honestly, like people, you can hear that, but you're both huge celebrities. So you're aware that there is a ton of baloney about me. So why would I, like, we go and look up each other. But in that, in your space. We just didn't look it up. Yeah, why do it? We took each other as we came. And so first of all, for her to sit down and say to me, you know, I want you to watch these videos. This is, you know, I saw the doctor's clip, you know, where you guys met and all this stuff.

And I was humbled that she wanted to share with me. And I was like, okay. And she was like, you good with this? Because, you know, it may put a target on you. And I was like, I love you. Like, I'm with you all the way. And going back to the previous question, her showing that to me and inviting me or warning me,

I didn't really need a warning. I mean, I love her and adore her, and it's only made me respect her more. But that opened the door for conversation and for us to learn, right? It's all about information in relationships and life, in what you do. It's one of the great things you said

when I was in the control room watching, you said, we're just trying to educate and provide information, right? Freedom of Information Act. Yeah. Freedom of information, right? I'm deviating from the relationship into other things.

But, you know, if we only have one source of information, we don't really have information. And if we don't have information, we're not really free, right? And for me, I love information. And Jenny's too, like we... We love it. Buying a car, I want to know everything. I want to know everything.

Yeah. Buying shoes, I want to know everything. And certainly, with our health and safety, we want to know everything. And it's important to get as much information as we can, you know. and informed consent, it's, you know, when that starts to go away, you know, it's easy in the moment to say, okay, you know, all right, well, this, just this one time.

It's, you know, it's a very slippery slope because, you know, people wouldn't get a knee surgery without a second opinion. Right. Right. For me, I just want information. So I can say, okay, I'm comfortable with that or I'm not comfortable with that.

It's very simple to me. So much of what I watch with you and what I learned with you and things that Jenny share with me, it's like, yeah, that seems common sense. To me, I understand people have other thoughts and other opinions. Everyone's different. Yeah. The fact that we're all different is all the more important

that we need to respect our differences and get as much information as we can. We're information junkies. I mean, you picked a good one here. I wasn't sure if I would do it, but because you brought it up, one of the first videos you showed is somewhere where we, you know, I'm working on the doctor's television show.

I wasn't on this show, but we almost connected there, but it is a very powerful moment in this conversation. So for those of you that are new that are watching this show, and maybe, you know, you've heard about Jenny and things that were going on. This is a pivotal moment on the show I was working on at the doctor's television show around this concept of vaccines and autism. Take a look at this.

I want to focus on your personal story and journey with Evan, who was diagnosed with autism, and how's he doing now? He is doing incredible. You know, two and a half, he had a seizure. That's what led me to the diagnosis of autism. And after one year of implementing biomedical treatment, which is diet, detox supplements, he was recovered from autism.

Today he is typical, first grade, loving, so social. You wouldn't be able to tell at all that anything was wrong or the severity of his injury that he had. So Ginny with Evan, you don't use words necessarily like cure or what do you? Well, you know, a really good announcement. The analogy that Stan Kurtz, who's here today, a dad, taught me, was that we look at autism as an injury. So if you get hit by a bus, you don't become cured from getting hit by the bus.

You recover from the injury. And these kids, a lot of them, weren't born with autism. Maybe a genetic predisposition, but something triggered it that pushed them over, like toxins, like infections. And we firmly believe that this is why these kids were injured and why we call it a recovery. Here's one thing, Jenny, and you know I've got an open mind, but we've seen a huge decline in some of the really nasty things that I don't, that I'm so glad I don't have to deal with. Let me tell you this. We do not need that many vaccines that we need.

The chickenpox, I think, can be a parent's choice, the rote of virus, the flu shot that still contains mercury. J.B. Habitatis B, go ahead. The devil is always in the details, and one of the problems with vacuble. is they've been so great that people overly generalize about them as if they're only great. We looked at other first world countries. We're 34th in under five mortality behind such luminaries as Cuba and Slovenia.

However, we have 36 vaccines. The top five, which include countries like Finland, Norway, Iceland, average 11 and 13 vaccines. And why are there autism rates, 1 in 1,000, 1 in 1,500, 1 in 2000? It doesn't take a brain surgeon or an ER doctor to figure out there might be a correlation. In my opinion, and this is just me wanting to have an open debate about this, vaccines are really the one thing we have looked at as causing all the time. That is completely bogus.

That is such a bogus statement. How many vaccines have they looked at in these studies? How many? What's the answer? It's two. How many ingredients have they study of 35? What's the answer? It's one.

You've looked at two of 36 shots and one of 35 vaccines, and you're going to stand on the stage and say that vaccines and autism are unrelated. It is the most bogus tobacco science. It's a smokescreen. Anybody who takes the time to read it would agree. I'm so sick of doctors who don't read the studies, who don't know the details, sitting here telling parents and reassuring them that vaccines don't cause autism.

It is irresponsible. And this is the biggest problem and the reason that doctors in this country are frustrated. Read the science. Listen, all you're doing is you're antagonizing a medical community that wants to help these kids. You haven't done the research. antagonizing me, you're antagonizing Dr. Sears. Why would you do that?

We are so frustrated by not being heard. We are so tired of not being heard. And we're so tired of hearing doctors like the second doctor there, who says it's been proven that vaccines and autism are unrelated. It's simply untrue, and it's maddening as a parent to know the truth. It's always mind-blowing to watch that. And, you know, you, and I've said this before, you were there all alone.

I mean, without you, that story doesn't get out. I think of all the parents out there that saw that episode and probably started thinking twice. Maybe this autism is the vaccine that my pediatrician's saying it's not. You were just so instrumental, but you were all alone. When you look at, I was saying to Aaron now, when you look at the shift now,

hearings on vaccine safety, you're watching the news and politicians are saying, we've got to think twice about products that are just being forced on us and that in using the V word. Right. Isn't it amazing? It feels almost like a dream and a nightmare at the same time because since then, I know there's been many people that have come up to me and say, oh my God, thanks to you. You know, I didn't maybe vaccinate my second child. I don't want anyone to not do. I just wanted to share my story. Yeah. So people are informed because no one was informing them. And so, you know of the possibility of the right right so just of the possibilities she wasn't informing

people of this will happen to all of your children if you don't stop right this is a possibility for some shouldn't that be enough yeah to cause concern and allow us to ask questions and ask question and to just see when the whole coronavirus started coming up i was like oh here we go you know the moment they started talking about being pandemic i said here comes the mandatory vaccines yeah It's almost like if I wrote a script for my life before I was born, be like, this will happen and then this will happen. And in some ways, I kind of look at it and go, God, if this never happened with my own son,

would I be awake right now? Would I be standing in line at the pharmacy to get a shot? Like, people say, oh, my God, you saved Devon's life. He saved mine. Yeah. You know, he woke me up early. And there was a lot of bad news about coronavis, but the good news is, as people like minded people watching,

show and I love you guys, people are waking up and I see that every single day and I know you do too and it's a beautiful thing. I think I mentioned last time I had nurses and a lot of health people in the medical industry, you know, tweeting me saying like I apologize or not that I need one. Yeah. But it just shows me that people are waking up and that feels good. I've had a few of those people who come like scientists that, you know, would pull me aside saying even during COVID that you overstated like it's not you know the child and then they've come up and said now they've done my research I'm I apologize for having really talked down to you and say you know you're talking about you don't you just feel grateful when people say that that's it that's it that's it that's it I remember the last time that happened you know a few hours later same party the the the person comes back and says I can't believe you're not gloating like I'm not gloating no I'm so happy you are finally

right another person that is getting this all right let's just let she never gloats by the way she never go I I cry sometimes because I'm just in the control room, some of the, to hear people say the things they say in the best ways, you know, you were there, thank you, you inspired me, there was no one else saying this. And it's, again, you know, you showed that video. One of the videos she also showed me was,

and she wasn't making a statement to me, she was showing me a lot of videos. And one of them was, you know, all I ever heard, all I ever hear about her in every article, anti-vax or Jenny McCarthy. Right. I watched her on Larry King, Oprah, all these shows say, look, we're not an anti-vaccine movement.

We just want safe vaccines. We want to make sure the testing's done. And we want to make sure that people know that different people are affected in different ways. And if your child could be susceptible, it's important. Mine was. This is the result as far as I can understand it. And the thing is, is what I also discovered from hers, you know, We kind of, especially with the childhood vaccine stuff,

is we stopped listening to moms. Indeed. You know, it's like the doctor there, I know he got upset and sometimes, you know, when you get really angry, and I would say this about myself. If I ever get angry, I don't get angry much. But when I do, I usually look and go,

why'd I get so angry? What was my accountability in this? What didn't I do right? You know, if I have an argument with a friend of mine, you know, it's like, I should have called you two weeks ago and brought this up instead of telling you after the fact. My fault, that's why I got mad, right? It's a deflection, but so many moms just weren't listened to.

You know, we've learned to trust doctors and find doctors who we love. A lot of people can't afford to do that. A lot of people don't have time to find a doctor that they could trust. They just go to what they could do, right? But before any of that, we learn to trust our moms usually. When all these moms are standing up saying, something changed with my child. And people are like, no, you're just a mom, you're being emotional. It's like, what world is this?

that we live in that we don't respect mothers. And they're the closest person to their child. You know, and it doesn't even make sense with where we are in the world today. You know, it's like, why wouldn't we believe them? You know, that something happened. And if this mom is mistaken, and it wasn't this, doesn't she have a right to at least inquire about it?

That's what I was marveling at and really made me go, wait a minute. It's true. And it went from like moms also to even broader patients because people are coming in with vaccine injures from COVID and the doctors aren't believing them it's it went from yeah definitely and I think that a huge part of it was now it wasn't just Mazbin is doctor doctors saying I don't want to get this thing and then being called anti-vaxxer like you know yeah and probably even like oh you're going to be a Jenny McCarthy here like what no I just don't want this they realized is this all it took totally

is this all it's going to take for anyone to become a Jen McCarthy is actually ask a question Like, hello. Yeah, the questions are to gain information, right? And information helps us make informed decisions. It's really simple math. And I respect people are different, you know. We have to. Yeah, absolutely.

Everyone has their own choices. It's just, you know, it's interesting because, like, you know, sometimes people joke about commercials. You see, if you have the TV on, you're going to see a lot of commercials about these things that come out. It's like side effects. People who need them and take them sometimes, even go. Oh my God, that's crazy. Like when you hear those side effects, but there's a whole aspect of life

where we're not given any information. We're not, you know, we don't even know we can ask for it. You just, you know, I brought my child in for a fever when he was, he had 103 fever, and the doctor was like, well, while he's here, he's due for six shots. And I was like, I don't want to put him through any more pain. And he said, you know what, it's fine.

Come back in six months. Don't worry about it. And I was like, I thank him, because, you know, even just injecting six things to my son on that day would have been the worst day of his and my life, right? Now, I don't know what would have happened. I'm not saying, right?

But you listened to your instinct? My instinct, and I was fortunate. You know, I was fortunate I could afford to come back in six months. That's true, too. How many moms and dads in that moment have no choice, you know? And it's, again, it's just information. You know, the movie. I'm sorry, I'm going on, I'm rambling.

It's amazing. For going over, sorry. Oh, people are loving it. It's really so amazing. I'm sitting here, Donnie, thinking that there's a chance that you could have slipped into my life. Like, you're wired like I am, which is like, all I'm asking is a question here. And the more you're telling me I can't ask this question is making me realize I really got to ask it louder. You know what I really?

You know, I like being asked questions. Yeah. You know, I'm going to go on tour. My fans all want to know, where are the tickets? How's this going to work? How's that going to work? It's like the more information they have, the more, the better informed they could be to make a decision. Do I want to go to this concert? Do I want to do this?

Do I want to watch this show? Do I want to do these things? Or is it worth my time and my effort? And if they say no, at least I gave them as much information as I could. And I respect if they say no. You know, it's their decision. It's their choice. It's their life.

I honor that. And we should all do that with each other. That's why we love the show, Del. It's information. The best information. Speaking of, I mean, and you asked yourself the question, you know, you said, you know, where would I have been had I not gone through this experience? You actually, there's a lot of things you do with your life now. You have a makeup line.

Like, I mean, like about cleanliness and health. I'm not a fan of heavy metals, as you know. Okay, right. But, you know, dive. Except music. But really quickly, because I am really proud of this, and I'm addicted to the show. And I know you guys talk about in every facet, you know, toxins and stuff. When I started diving into clean makeup, I was really surprised back in 2017 that the last time makeup was regulated was 80 years ago.

Now in 2020, they just came out with a little regulation, but nothing, you know, where it needs to be. And I don't trust anybody anymore. I don't trust any agency to govern anything. So I said, I'm going to make my own. And, you know, Donnie's been watching me build this from the ground up. It's like little old me by myself. But in there, making sure the ingredients are as good as they can be. you the safest makeup is no makeup at all.

But I like makeup. So we went in and found, you know, I like it too. She put some eyebrows on me this morning. I beat down my chemist to really find because there's hormone disruptors in mascara and almost all of them. So now we've got mascara that doesn't have hormone disruptors. Lip gloss that is good for you, healthy, none of that crap in it. But I was just surprised by how much stuff is still in.

makeup. So I'm hoping to, you know, I'm going up against the big giant, so any support is welcome. You're a big giant. What's the, what's the broadline call? Formless beauty. Formless beauty. Where do we find it? Formless beauty.com. All right. She's good. I am sure that, I mean, look, as hard as you've worked, you know what it means. You've detoxed your son, your family, and it is, it's, I say this. Like, I'm not into being just a lunatic about all the, we are being bombarded from every direction by all sorts of toxic issues, right? We're doing a lot of investigation, all these things. But you could drive himself crazy.

I'm like, some planes flew by. What do you mean? He's like, no, read this. I just feel like, do what you can. You know what I mean? There's simple things we can do. Like, I try to watch what I eat, you know, as much as I can. I don't drink tap water.

It's just a thing that we don't do in our, you know, wherever we can make a difference, makeup. These are things that, like, you're going to put it on every day. So why make that something you're doing? Why put toxins into yourself? Like, there's plenty in your environment that are getting you anyway. It's so true. And four seconds, you have to look at it like, and I said this on the view.

It's like, how full do you make up your barrel of toxins? You know, try to keep it as low as possible so you can't have that wine or that vodka on the weekend, you know? Right. Because we're still going to want some type of toxins. Right. But it's keeping that bucket as low as possible from overflowing. Exactly. When it overflows, that's when you get cancer, autism, MS, you name Parkinson's.

So you want to keep it as low as possible. And if women are wearing this daily and maybe some men, that you might want to consider, you know, what is the ingredients? What are the ingredients? I absolutely agree. I have to wear makeup for this show just because these lights, bench, but you're going to look into it. Well, I really want to thank you. No, we're not done yet. What?

We love the show, but that's not the only reason we came down here. I did want to talk to you guys. Is this my camera? Which one? Go ahead. That camera. Doesn't matter. Just look right in.

Yeah, you're looking at it. We need your help. And I say we, as in team freedom. I'm not associated with the high wire or I can. Just I'm a passionate supporter and a donor. And I know that you guys are doing such huge. Listen to me, they're doing huge things right now. They've got legal cases that will change the future for yourself, for your children, for your

grandkids. right now and I've been at this so long and I get to see what's happening kind of behind the scenes a little bit and I can see this there's this movement that's happening and and I know Dell every week as I watch them ask for donations and I know there's a lot of you that are donating so thank you so much for the ones that haven't yet this is your time you guys I want to activate you through the lens to say we need you now our army needs to be activated right now whether it's a dollar, $2, even the $23 a month would help so much fund these cases that are sitting here waiting to just change the world. But we can't do it without you, without the collective, without team freedom.

So please, please, I beg of you to be donators with us because there's no, the most important time is right now. And that's why we flew all the way here. I'm like, I've got to tell people, we can't wait anymore. You can't, you've got to go from a large Starbucks to a small Starbucks. Like, save any way to do you can. I don't give it's a dollar. Just if everyone watching did $1 right now, it could help so much. And thank you.

And I'm sorry, I just had to get up my soapbox to save this. Well, you know, another thing, too, is you can also just spread the word that, you know, if you want information that you're not going to get, you know, you can get it here. And if you spread that word, you know, I didn't know what the high wire was at first. I knew you, of course. I knew, you know, a lot about you and what you did. And I would hear Jenny in the gym, and I would hear this show. And I was like, what is that show? And she goes to hell's new show.

And I'd go watch and I would see the Jackson Report. And I would like, I really liked that guy. You know, I honestly fell off of the show because of the Jackson Report. Sorry. It's okay. I've embarrassed them all day. You get to like meet him when we're done. Well, you know, it's just information.

A lot of times I told him backstage, I said, what I like about you is you don't. tell me what is. You don't tell me this is it and there's no other thing. It's sometimes Jackson and says, you know, I don't know, we're gonna look more into it. We'll see we could be wrong. Hopefully we are. Hopefully we're not accurate on this. Indications are it could be. You know, that's information that I liked again. I thank you for creating a form and a platform for that for me. And the best thing I could do is spread the word that if you want more information. And donate, guys.

And, you know, I don't usually, I don't even know if we're designed for cameras, but can we get a hug? Yes. For a second. I just want to thank you. Thank you. So much. Oh, man.

You guys have been such amazing friends and supporters. You're a good friend, Del. I want to sting out of the show. We have a music video that you put together during COVID. I just read very quickly. Yeah. What happened during COVID? Tell me about this.

Really quickly. Well, no, yeah. It's all right. No. No, no, no, it was a funny story. We talked about it, so I know you wanted to play it. And I want to be very clear. I love this song.

I love what we did. You know, when, and I love and I'm so grateful to the artists who participated, just the funny story about it is, you know, about a week into the lockdowns. You know, every, we were. Seven days in, we were good, but we were here. We were here and we were supportive and we were making videos and trying to be, you know, spread love and help. everybody get through it and and but I started to think about if I was a kid the way

I grew up as poor as I grew up with nine kids in the house and my dad often laid off from his union job and my mom working nights we wouldn't survive for two weeks we would be starving my dad would say screw the lockdown go out and steal someone's vegetables from their yard we have to eat and so I decided to do a song to raise money and we raised over a quarter million dollars for no kid hungry right The idea was to help poor people like I was and Jenny was. Yeah. Just have some assistance financially because the assistance from the government came 12 months later, right?

So we did the song, but the irony of the song is, I got all these artists, Big Frida, Boys to Men, Jordan Sparks, Noddy by Nature, my band, New Kids on the Block, and Jenny's castmates are in the video. And we did this video just to say, have a party while we're in home for two weeks. No, we're stuck at home. Have a party, just get through it and feel good. If you can feel good for three minutes with this song, hopefully you'll feel better. And we got to a point in the song where I was having to order microphones online,

ship them to the artist. They would record, send the vocals back to me and my producing partner. And I literally, we were like nine days into the COVID lockdowns. He's like, oh, hurry up. I gotta drop the song. I gotta forget about it. And she was like, why?

I said, because we're gonna be back to normal in five days. I'm going to miss the window. The whole point was we're locked down. Stupidest song in history. Like, it's going to come out, you know, and we're all going to be back to work and school and golfing. And I was like, if this song isn't done tomorrow, I'm not putting it out.

I got it done by the next day we put it out. And, you know, six months later, we were still at home dancing to the song. I was like, what? Totally. How did this happen? It just, you know, it's funny. I love that story. The madness of life and the unexpectedness and the wild turns that it all took.

But no regrets. And I don't want to mock the song because it really did good for people who really needed help. And I respect the artists and the fans who bought the record and stuff. But it was pretty funny. Who knew? Who knew? I can remember the day I said,

I got to put the scrap the song. It's never coming out. We missed the window. We found the window. It was a big window. The window unfortunately expanded. Thank you to so much. For coming here,

but more than that, for just being such awesome people. Thanks. And so honest and sharing and transparent, it's just such a breath of fresh air. It's no wonder that you have such amazing success because that's what we see in you, right? You're really heroes to so many people because you're fearless, you're bold, you're brilliant, you're beautiful.

And I'm so honored to be able to call you, my friend. Thank you. Ditto. Bold and brave. All right. Great. Well, look, you know, if you get nothing else from this show today, know this, that love is so important. Your children, your wives, your spouses, your husbands, it's about family.

So how about this for marching orders on top of everything else that we need to do to make this world a better place? Why don't you just grab those that you love inside your home and have a house party? And we'll see you next week. For those about to lose their minds We gotta remember Yeah That in the worst of times Make the best of times

Turn it up Ain't got nothing