The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 351: WAR OF THE WORDS

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

Top Florida Health Official Wants Answers Over Potential mRNA Contamination; Jefferey Jaxen Reports on Scottish Care Home Nurse Whistleblower, New Evidence Links Daszak, Baric, in Wuhan Coverup, and Predictive Programming and The Manipulation of YOU; New Movie, Protocol 7, Exposes Mumps Vaccine Scandal; Protocol-7 to Debut at New Autism Health Summit in 2024 Guests: Joseph A. Ladapo, M.D. Ph.D., Dr. Andrew Wakefield, Tracy SlepcevicBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Good afternoon. and good evening, wherever you are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out into the high wire. Oh, man, I don't know about you. I've got the car packed up. I'm hoping that once we get this show done, we're going to hit the road, go back and see my folks in Colorado, maybe do some skiing if we get any snow out there. The holidays are upon us.

It's an amazing time to meet up with family and, you know, have some of those conversations, those conversations about what it means to actually be awake. not awoke, but awake, and what it is we want for the future of this nation. And what are we thankful for that happened over the last year? I'm thankful for a lot of things, a lot of accomplishments. I'm also thanking for all the amazing people that we are now joined by in this fight against medical tyranny and really just stupidity in general. One of the big people that has been so effective at using a political office to make a difference

is Joseph Latipo, the Surgeon General of Florida. He recently tweeted out something we've been talking a lot about recently, and it's this contamination in the vaccines. This is what he wrote. On today's episode of What the FDA, I asked at Dr. Caleb FDA to address the DNA fragments detected in mRNA COVID shots and how they are hitchhiking into human cells,

DNA integration of the human genome, and oncogenesis are known risks, even acknowledged by a U.S. FDA in 07. This is what that excerpt is from the letter itself talking about the FDA. In 2007, the FDA published guidance on regulatory limits for DNA vaccines. In the guidance for industry, considerations for plasma DNA vaccines for infectious disease indications, guidance for industry. This guidance for industry highlights important considerations. for vaccines that use novel methods of delivery regarding DNA integration.

It was all the way back in 2007, right? They were foreshadowing where we would be. Here's the actual guidance he's referring to. Theoretical concerns. Remember, this is the FDA writing this. Theoretical concerns regarding DNA integration include the risk of tumorogenesis if insertion reduces the activity of a tumor suppressor or increases the activity of an oncogene. In addition, DNA integration may result in chromosomes.

instability through the induction of chromosomes breaks or rearrangements. Sounds like really bad stuff, right? Well, it is, and we've been covering it, and there's been some alarming studies coming out and a lot of people talking about it. In fact, it seems like everyone's talking about it except the FDA.

Well, I am just psyched to know that Dr. Latipo is out there demanding some answers, and so it is my honor and pleasure to be being joined by the author of Transcend Fear, an incredible book, the Surgeon General for Florida doing amazing work, Joseph Lattapo. Dr. Joe, how are you doing today? I'm great, though. Every time I get to see you, it's great.

And Christmas time, so it's extra special. It's perfect. It's really great. It's good to see you too. Always a pleasure. Once again, you know, you're really putting some pressure on here from a position none of us really find ourselves in. I mean, we can reach out as lawyers.

We can reach out as journalists, but you're actually in a space in government. are, you know, the health and fate of Florida citizens is in your hands. You're taking that very seriously and I think asking really important questions. Let me ask you this. I mean, when we're looking at a tweet like this, you know, you know you're going to get a lot of attention. What are the things that run through your head as you're planning on, you know, reaching out, making a statement. Obviously, there has to be some, you know, care with how you handle it. Are you backed by science? What made you feel bold enough to really address this issue in the way that you have?

Honestly, Dale, it's because it's a ghastly issue. This issue of the risk of DNA integration, it's fortunately it's something that historically has been very low risk. But, you know, it gets a little technical. But with these MRNA vaccines, you've got basically a passport into human cells. So whereas in the past, DNA would have a hard time ever getting into a cell, let alone getting into the nucleus of the cell. Now you have these lipid nanoparticles that everyone is very excited about with the MRA vaccines that they carry MRNA in, but they almost certainly also carry DNA into the cells.

So it completely changes the risk analysis. And this risk, however low it may be, is one that the FDA has acknowledged in the past, and somehow they think that they can get away with not assessing this time, and it's totally not going to happen. You listed three very important questions you have. Let me read those. Let's just go ahead and read through those. Number one question, have drug manufacturers evaluated the risk of human genome integration or mutagenesis of residual DNA contaminants from the MRN8 COVID-19 vaccines, alongside the additional risk of DNA integration from the lipid nanoparticle delivery system and SV40, that's the Svian retrovirus 40 promoter enhancer, has FDA inquired about any information from the drug manufacturers to investigate such risk? Let's just talk about this question.

Breaking that down in layman's terms, what is your concern here with, you know, lipid nanoparticle delivery, this SV40, you know, what is it you're talking about? And what, what should, what, what, should, you know, citizens be concerned about when they're looking at this? Yeah, Adele, I got to tell you, I feel terrible talking about this stuff because I try to avoid dragging people through very technical scientific stuff, but it's important to be able to understand what's going on here. So I'm going to try to explain it in a way that hopefully whether, you know, you didn't have to major in chemistry or biochemistry to understand it. You know, everyone knows that DNA is the building blocks of life.

And in fact, you know, it's from God. It's literally part of our connection with God. And the DNA is something that is important to preserve the integrity of. People are aware of the idea of mutations. Pretty much everyone's familiar with X-Men and fun stuff like that. Yeah. But on the serious side, it actually is important to protect DNA. If you don't protect DNA, say, for example, if you, you know, are hanging out in CT scanners or for whatever reason exposed to a lot of x-ray radiation, it can cause things like changes to your DNA, it can cause cancer, it can cause other problems.

And in this particular case, the issue that the FDA, by the way, have themselves acknowledged in the past, the FDA has acknowledged this with other technologies is that we just have. to do our due diligence to make sure that when we are using technologies that have the potential to introduce DNA into our bloodstreams, which is something that happens with some biological medications and some vaccines and some other type of medications, we just have to do our due diligence to make sure that that DNA isn't ending up somewhere we don't want it to be, and especially that that DNA isn't finding its way into our DNA. our human DNA. You know, very simple stuff. And the problem here is that that due diligence hasn't been done. And the FDA wants you and me to believe that that's okay. And that is not okay.

And really there are expletives for that. I mean, it's so disrespectful to God's work and creation to not do your due diligence with this type of, this type of work. I mean, you know, I was sitting here thinking about like how would I describe it. It's almost like if you look at a blueprint for a house. Our executive producer Jen Sherry is building a house right now. What happened if your three-year-old got in there and just erased a couple of retaining walls and the house got built and suddenly some of the structures that were supposed to hold your whole house together aren't there? I mean, that's just like an idea of this house could collapse. The entire way that we're built, that sort of blueprint for our life is being potentially shifted and no one at the FDA seems to

care. Let's look at question number two. All right. Do you, Do current FDA standards for acceptable and safe quantity of residual DNA present as known contaminants in biological therapies? Consider the lipid nanopartical delivery system for the MRNA COVID-19 vaccines. This is interesting because we are. There's lots of studies now coming out about this floating DNA from the plasmids, the way they sort of made the RNA technology and was able to sort of multiply it. Now we're seeing that instead of it getting cleaned out as we were told the way the product

is supposed to be made, we have all this residual DNA. And I understand you're asking, are we thinking about not only that we have these fragments of DNA, but we have this incredible delivery system that could be taking it, you know, to places we don't want it? Is that essentially what you're talking about here? Yeah, that's right, Dow. It's like if you're moving at the speed of science, you know, sometimes people skip important steps. Yeah. And we certainly saw that with the trials that were done by Pfizer and

Moderna and we're seeing it now with the FDA. And this is just one example. I mean, obviously there have been proper safety analyses that either haven't been released or haven't been performed by the FDA. But, you know, this is the risk of moving at the speed of science. Right. That you're, you know, that you're playing willy-nilly and loose with this risk of human DNA integration. And by the way, Dell, we only know about one or two percent. of what our DNA does. The rest of it, almost all of our DNA is a complete mystery known only to God.

So it's just, I mean, it's even beyond reckless what we're seeing, but unfortunately, it's not surprising considering the track record they've accumulated in COVID. Yeah, and the third question that you ask in this very important letter is considering the potentially wide biobistribution of MRNA COVID-19 vaccines and DNA contaminants beyond the local injection site,

Have you evaluated the risk of DNA integration into reproductive cells with respect the lipid nanoparticle delivery system? There is a lot of anecdotal, call it anecdotal evidence of women having issues with their menstrual cycle. I'm getting a lot of anecdotal stories about miscarriage. I mean, there's a lot of investigation that needs to be happening here. And to your point, it just doesn't seem like the FDA and the CDC or the NIH, these regulatory agencies that are designed. to look into these things, they're not doing that. And it's so shocking because they know they rushed this product onto the market.

They know they were taking risk. But we're not in week two of, you know, release. We're not in the middle of COVID. Why are you still pushing booster shots when now time is telling us, and the science that is being done is saying, look, there's a contamination in here that we were told wasn't here. And it's in levels far beyond anything that have ever been approved. and you're doing no science on this

and still promoting this product. I mean, it really, I mean, I keep thinking to myself, Joe, that this is gonna be written about. There will be somewhere out in their future, there will be a historical reference and a reflection on this, and this is gonna, they're gonna say, what happened here?

Why did all science stop? Why did so many professionals? Why was the Surgeon General of Florida the only Surgeon General asking questions? Yeah, no, totally, Dell. There will, there will be a reckoning eventually. And frankly, I think when, you know, the real damage has been totally accounted for, honestly, I'm not sure we're going to even have a Pfizer anymore. I don't think it's going to actually look the same way. The, you know, the, the, the, the harm that has been done by these vaccines and the fact that this just basic work, hey, check. Let's do the due diligence. Let's just make sure. Yes, I get it.

It's small amounts of DNA. Let's make sure that none of that small amounts, which, by the way, is equivalent to based on some of the studies that are out there, billions of particles per dose of DNA. Let's make sure it's not ending up somewhere like in eggs or in sperm, you know, in a place where it could be heritable, could be passed on to offspring or could cause other problems. Let's just make sure, out of respect for the human genome, it's not happened. and it will be written about, you know, it's, we'll see how, I don't know what the timeline is, obviously, but, but, you know, I think you're right on, Del. This is going to, unfortunately,

go down as a very sad point in history. What is so, I think the most shocking about this issue when we look at it is, we are not talking about a drug that was raised on the market that is for, you know, stage for critical cancer patients. And, you know, we're saying, look, what difference does it make. They're dying anyway. We're willing to take this risk. We've got to get this out there. We are talking about a product that is given to, literally they would love to give it to every human, healthy human being on the planet to not be doing your investigations there where you could be causing cancer. You could be causing. And like you said, passing on the offspring, I mean, if we do, this is what I keep trying to say to people, you know, New York Times and people when

they're interviewing me is, look, I hope I'm wrong about all of the things that I'm questioning in this vaccine right now. But I will say this, if we keep using a vaccine technology and the propaganda that vaccines only work, if everyone in the world takes it, and we keep rushing these products out without doing proper safety studies, we will eventually one day destroy this species. You cannot have a product that everyone takes and then go, oops, oh, sorry, contaminated everyone's DNA, no turning back now. I mean, it is so scary this, you know, level of recklessness. It is. This is what happens when you move at the speed of science, right? Yeah. And the rest of us just really need to say, hold on, you know, keep your thinking caps on and, you know, let's think about what we're doing. And this has been happening throughout the pandemic where people are rushing to close schools or rushing to close businesses, you know, rushing to mandate stuff to people. who've already had COVID or don't want, you know, don't want to put a new product in their

vaccine, in their bodies. And, and, you know, we need to keep stop moving at the speed of science with public health and really keep our sensibilities with us. You are, you know, looking out for the citizens of Florida. For everyone that's watching right now that doesn't live in Florida, what is your recommendation? If you were Surgeon General right now of the United States of America, what would you say to people that are looking at getting their next booster shot. What is your recommendation? Well, I would, and I got to bring my boss into this because he's on the same page. I mean, this, this arena of Ron DeSantis. Governor DeSantis, this arena of encouraging, pushing products that have not, obviously not been

sufficiently tested to people who don't want them and often to people who don't need them, it must stop. And frankly, if I had the power, it would absolutely stop. I mean, it's just so wrong. People need to get back to the basics in terms of thinking about making sensible decisions. And we just need to, I mean, it's been one crazy decision after the next for the last three years. And you're just wondering, when's it going to stop? I mean, when is enough, enough, you know? So absolutely, it would absolutely put an end to this completely reckless. drunken behavior that we're seeing, unfortunately, from our federal health leaders, CDC, FDA, all of them.

Well, it's a shocking moment in history, as we've said, looking back, you will be one of those rare beacons of light and hope on the pages of what will have been a gruesome miscarriage of justice and science, and it's just good to know that you're out there. I love how outspoken you've been, and I love that you take time out of your incredibly busy schedule to check in with us here. Thank you for all you do. I'm going to let you get back to it. All right.

Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah. Merry Christmas, everybody. Happy holidays. Take care, Dr. Latipo. All right. Well, amazing. We've got a huge show coming up.

We've got none other than the doctor himself. Dr. Andrew Wakefield has got a brand new movie that is currently being edited. We're going to be premiering in just a few moments. The trailer for his new film Protocol. seven, very exciting, and his first narrative picture. This is not a documentary. This is a star-studded, impactful movie that I think is going to be a game change. We're going to talk to him about that. I got Tracy Slepsvick, who's got a brand new conference coming up. For all of those parents that find themselves on the wrong side of this vaccine experience, you're going to have

somewhere to go. But first, it's time for the Jackson Report. Man, it's really, you know, we talk about it all the time. We talk about it so much. Sometimes it's just like words on a page, but when you really let those words sink in, it is so horrifying what is happening in this world right now. And the authorities and the recklessness by people that call themselves doctors and scientists is just beyond anything you can reason. I can't reason it. It's outside of anything I understand to be human.

We have a big show of data points here and a lot of information. And, you know, what Dr. Lodipo was saying there, everyone wants a reckoning and there will be a reckoning and it takes time. And one place that that time is going into investigation is Scotland. And here's the latest headline over there. And it's not about vaccines. It's about how people were put on palliative care. They basically death pathways when they had COVID. The death protocol, COVID whistleblower Leslie Roberts, believes this one medical blunder cost thousands of lives.

So it says in this article, she's speaking. out after receiving a restriction order from the Scottish COVID inquiry that would prevent her from disclosing any of the evidence or documents she has submitted to the probe. Ms. Roberts says she fears the impact will be to stop her and other campaigners from criticizing the Scottish government. So this is still ongoing. It goes on to say it relates to the NG163 end of life protocol from NICE National Institute for Health and Care Excellence. It was issued to doctors and nurses across the UK on April 3, 2020 and remained in place until March 21st, 2021. According to Ms. Roberts and other health campaigners, NG163 essentially told medics to prescribe

a deadly cocktail of powerful drugs to people in hospital and elsewhere who have been diagnosed with an advanced case of COVID-19. She says they were called Silence Me drugs. I don't believe any nurse wants to watch their patients die, but I'm afraid that is what happened as a result of the COVID care protocol. So let's go back to those guidelines because this is what, I mean, this is an ongoing investigation in Scotland right now to see what happened. not only in care homes, but also just in hospitals in general. So in April of 2020,

this National Institute put out these guidelines here. This was the COVID-19 rapid guidelines for managing symptoms and under managing breathlessness, you know, that third stage of COVID, breathlessness, consider an opioid or benzodiazepine combination for patients with COVID-19 who are at the end of life and have moderate to severe breathlessness and are distressed. Now remember, at that time, there was no early prevention. As we, as, you know, Dr. Peter McCullough made famous, they were looking for early treatment. There was nothing. So it was basically just people racing through those three stages of COVID until they had breathlessness.

And then it was kind of just like, well, you know, hospitals can't help you until you're there. And when you're there, just go to the hospital. And in America, get put on a ventilator. But in the, in the UK and Scotland in these areas, it was basically this end-of-life protocol. that gave them the drugs. So right when that nice protocol was put out, you had 11 in the UK's most senior consultants in palliative care medicine, and they went to the BMJ rapid response, and they wrote this article right here. And it says the protocols, basically these protocols need review. They said, we are concerned that uncritical use of NG163 may create unintended risk for people with suspected or

actual COVID-19 infection, combination of opioid, benzodiazepine, and neuroleptopause, is used in specialist, palliative care settings for symptom control and for palliative sedation to reduce agitation at the end of life. It takes great skill and experience to use palliative sedation proportionately so that extreme physical and existential distress are palliated.

But death is not primarily accelerated. So it's a very fine line. You have to walk here, they're saying, you can't just put this blanket, blanket thing for all doctors and nurses and, you know, AIDS working in nursing homes. It's not going to work. So they go on to say this. When I think about this, I mean, I think we've all at this point probably had a loved one, an elderly grandmother or grandfather, something like that that's, you know, at the end of life, maybe been dealing with cancer or some disease that's made those like the last bit of time really painful. And at that point, there's that, you know, decision you make, would you like us to make them more comfortable? And you kind of realize that we're nearing that moment here. They're talking about doing that for people that have a cold, who's a

who have, you know, pneumonia, a lung infection. And instead of like curing that, like maybe like, how about a vitamin C IV drip or something or some vitamin D? You know what we're going to do? We're going to get in the death protocol. We're going to make them comfortable and prepare them for death. I mean, it's crazy. This is a cold, you guys, you know?

I mean, really madness. Like you said, there is a humane place for these drugs. They do have a purpose. But this care pathway was giving. given to the medical community at a time when there were no answers. They were desperate. They were scared. So it goes on in the BMJ to state this.

This is what these palliative care specialists said. The top ones. They said NG-163 states sedation and opioid use should not be withheld because of a fear of causing respiratory depression. Because that's what it does. If COVID-19 infection were uniformly fatal, this would be an acceptable statement. But for people not previously known to be at the end of life, there is potential risk of unintended serious harm if these medications are using correctly and without the benefit of specialist

palliative care advice. So I reached out to several doctors, several different different hospital systems to see if this was happening in the U.S. too. And none of them really said that they heard any evidence of this happening widespread in the U.S. The U.S. was when people went to hospital, they were really relying on the ventilators. They weren't relying so much in the ventilators in the U.K. in Scotland. We didn't need morphine in benzodiazepine. We had ventilators and remdesivir seem to be doing the job well enough. Right. Right. I mean, it was like a nine out of ten death rate with that approach to this thing. And again, you imagine like in this scenario, you have the health department saying, don't worry if you feel like you're killing people. That's not something you should, you know, be alarmed about. This is what we're asking to do. It's essentially what they're saying, right? Don't let the fear of killing them getting in the way of using. this death protocol on them. And just the overarching theme here was there was a concerted effort to shut down any conversation

about early treatment, just like you said, vitamin D, nothing. Everyone was just wait for the vaccine, and that was the protocol. I mean, the unwritten wink-wink protocol. So a year, a month after that protocol, the nice protocol here in the UK was put out, here's the headlines now. July 2020, drug scandal, care homes accused of using powerful sedatives to make coronavirus victims die more quickly as use rocketed 100%. But then there's another arm to this. There are conversations. So people saying, well, you know, these drugs, they could have, it was up to their

decision. I'm sure not everyone was trying to kill their patients. But then we have this interesting point. These do not resuscitate orders. And we covered this, but this was in the Guardian of fury at do not resuscitate notices given to COVID patients with learning disabilities. So it says people's learning disabilities have been given do not resuscitate orders during the second wave of the pandemic, in spite of widespread condemnation, the practice last year, and an urgent investigation by the carrot watchdog. So this was, again, it was, it was continuing to go on. That is straight-up in genetics.

I mean, let's be clear. That's what Hitler, the first thing Hitler did, it was just sort of wipe out the handicapped and those that were, you know, in wheelchairs and things like that. I mean, so to think that they just said, you know, don't revive them. There's no point. Just let them die.

And in the absence of information really at the beginning, and with really fear being pushed by the media by people like Neil Ferguson with his model. You had a mash casualty incident. It was a triage, basically a triage stance that these hospitals were going to. So you had these do not resuscitate orders and all this. So wouldn't you believe this is the headline here, Nicholas Sturgeon, she's the PM of Scotland, COVID probe could be the biggest corporate homicide in legal history. Those are big words.

And how interesting is it that she stepped down. This is CNN. We don't like to quote them too much, but this is just the article at a timestamp. Nicholas Sturgeon unexpectedly quits as First Minister of Scotland. So this happened. It's about a year ago. She stepped down, but she's out of there. She saw this probe coming. You know, it's not because of the probe.

It doesn't say that in the article. But you can read between the lines and really see that she's probably getting out of there the way of Justinda Arden, just trying to maybe get a cushy job at Harvard or something in disinformation campaigns. Right. So the big, the big. The big conversation here really is where, switching from the care home aspect of this and the palliative care to where this thing came from. And we're really trying to find some evidence of natural evolution, but we keep turning

over rocks like this. This is breaking news. This is, in order to frame this breaking news, in 2018, we had DARPA, which is an agency of the Department of Defense, they put out this solicitation for basically, work. It says broad agency announcement preventing emerging pathogenic threats. They're looking for biological technologies office. And you look in here. It says DARPA is soliciting innovative proposals to develop novel and scalable approaches to preempt viral spillover, not creative, but preempt it, and transmission from animals or vectors into humans. Well, wouldn't you know, our friends at Equal

Health Alliance, good old Peter Dazek and Ralph Barrick, his friend from North Carolina, they had a business plan ready to go. It was called Project Diffuse. And we only know about this because people got a hold of this. We covered this in a show before, but they said, hey, we have this business proposal. We have a lab all set up in Wuhan. We know the scientists there. And we're going to submit this to the Pentagon here, to the DOD to see if this works. So we look at this paper. This was Project Diffused, diffusing the threat of BatBorne coronavirus. It essentially proposed engineering high-risk coronaviruses, the same species as SARS-O-Covee to synthesize. the spike protein with the fear and cleavage sites. We know that enhances transmissibility into humans.

It's basically saying now looking back, we have a blueprint for generating SARS-CoV-2 in a lab. So the US right to know has recently got their hands on an advanced copy of their business plan. So this was the business plan in draft form before they submitted it. And what's interesting about this is there's little notes on the side, little comments by Ralph Barrick, and Peter Dasick and how to word this so the Pentagon will maybe pick them. So let's check those out. These are, again, breaking slides, breaking documents. So this is the article of anybody wants to read it at U.S. Right to Know American Scientists Misled Pentagon on Research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

So it says in here, the first slide, there's a comment by Peter Dazek. And you can see on the right there is his comment. It says Ralph and Zhang Li, that's the infamous Bat Lady of the Wuhan Institute of Virology. if we win this contract, I do not propose that all of the work will necessarily be conducted by Ralph. He's in North Carolina. But I do want to stress the U.S. side of this proposal so that DARPA are comfortable with our team. Once we get the funds, we can then allocate who does what exact work. And I believe that a lot of these assays can be done in Wuhan as well.

So just for the footnotes part, hey, let's not talk about China or Wuhan. Let's just say we're going to do this. Once we get the funds, we'll do it in Wuhan. Wink, wink, wink. So let's go to the next slide. Now, this is Peter Dazick again, and they're talking about who they're going to put on the resume here. So the Pentagon is going to look and see who's going to be performing these studies. This is Ralph.

He says, I'm sorry, this is Peter Dazek. He says, I'm planning to use my resume in Ralph's. Lin Fah and Zingli. I realize your resumes are also very impressive, but I'm trying to downplay the non-U.S. focus. of this proposal so that DARPA doesn't see this as a negative. So again, they're trying to hide the fact that they're like really working directly with China and Wuhan. But here's the cool one.

So now they're talking about this is Ralph Barrick. Now we're talking about the nitty-gritty. How are we actually going to do this? What kind of labs are going to do this in? The actual scientific work. Ralph Barrick says this. In the U.S., these recomminent SARS-CoV are studied under BSL-3, not BSL-2, especially important for those that are able to bind and represent.

replicate in primary human cells. In China, might be growing these viruses under BSL 2. U.S. researchers will likely freak out. So if you look at the notes on the left side there, in the original copy of this, it says, well, we're going to do this in a BSL, biosafety lab level two. And he says, hold on, hold on. Don't put that because the U.S. research is going to freak out. Tell them we're going to do it in biosafety level three.

I mean, this is literally like, if you were imagining like a clothing company saying, let's just order it out of China. they don't sell they don't sell the buttons on right we know that but nike doesn't need to know that or you know something like that like they're literally cheating it they're going to a cheaper manufacturing system more dangerous they know they're doing dangerous work but don't tell anyone that china won't be taken as seriously as we would be here in america's everyone will freak out and so remember when we were looking at the slack comments so the slack comments was this back channel that was made public of all the researchers that were trying to figure out what happened in Wuhan during the

early outbreak. This was Christian Anderson. This was Eddie Holmes. So Christian Anderson, interestingly enough, says this on this Slack channel. He says, interesting, I'm all in for gain of function experiments. I think they're really important. However, performing these in a BSL 3 or less is just completely nuts. In my opinion, it has to be performed in a BSL 4 with extra precautions. So here's one of the leading virologist scientists saying BSL4 or plus. And then here literally is Ralph Barrett submitting a proposal to make SARS-CoV-2 to the Pentagon saying, BOW safety lab too in Wuhan sounds good to me. What could possibly go wrong, what's amazing about this is this is what you do for a living.

You're literally doing this to try and protect against bio-weapons. And here you're making what you know would be a bio-weapon in a lab where, you know, it has so much greater potential to leak out, but don't worry, it'll be happening in China and no one will know about it. As though you're going to, you know, hide this thing under your bed. What is it you think you do for a living? If this gets out, it doesn't stay in China. And now we look at this, to look at this through, you know, a retrospective lens and look back and say, this thing, you know, all signs says it did get out. And now you've got these guys knowing that that was a risk. Wow. I mean, I'd hate to be Fauci going in front of, you know, any congressional

hearings right now. This thing is stacking up in a really, really ugly bad way for that guy. Oh, man, I can hear the violins right now. And he'll be January 8th, January 9th. He's doing a congressional investigation that he agreed to show up for. Wow. And so just to tie it end onto this, you know, if you're talking to Peter Dasak, he'll say, well, we never got funded for this. So we didn't do those experiments because the Pentagon, the DoD didn't choose us. However, there's the article from the intercept, just to put the fine point on this. NIH, doctor, provides new evidence, U.S. funded, gain of function research in Wuhan, and that was NIH giving the money to EcoHealth Alliance. So they did fund this research. In 2018 was the start of the

funding this research. And it was interesting because it's almost like, well, we didn't get the funding there, but NIH gave it to us. And so let's just go ahead with this blueprint. That seems to be what happened. So let's move back from the whole picture here and talk about really one of the overarching themes of how the messaging worked and how messaging works in general and propaganda. Let's start the conversation here with H.G. Wells. He was a prominent author of his time. He wrote a lot of books, and he had an inside track just looking at some of the books he wrote. One of them was the idea of the League of Nations. Now, the League of Nations were the predecessor to the United Nations, and he wrote this book in 1919. So the League of Nations was just getting up and

running and he's writing this this book this article of just kind of the nuts and bolts of how this thing's going to get moving okay well maybe he was just making commentary at the time of that but then he writes a book in the 40s literally called the new world order this was a in here nonfiction he proposed a framework for a socialist government a scientifically planned world government that would be formed to guide the planet towards peace so it's interesting how that piece works in But to give an idea who H.U. Wells was and his kind of his lineage, we have to start with Thomas Malthus. And we've covered this in the show. Malthus, he has, he brought forward the Malthusian ideology of overpopulation, family planning. We have to get the world population down. This is a lot where Bill Gates kind of picked up the ball for the Billing Melinda Gates Foundation. We talked about it in the earlier show with why he chose back. So the father of eugenics, really, this idea of, you know, that we need to reduce population. We have to, we have to, you know, take care of ourselves.

You've got to prune our own society. Right, right. And the earth has a caring capacity, and God forbid, we get past that. Now, his ideas influenced later down the road Charles Darwin, evolutionary biologist, survival of the fittest. And eugenics was rooted in social Darwinism. So that just carried right into eugenics at that point. So there was a gentleman named Thomas Huxley. And Thomas Huxley form what was called the X Club,

no association with Elon Musk and Twitter, but the X club in the 1860s. And the idea of the X club was, and he was a big proponent of Darwin. He was actually called Darwin's Bulldog because he just spouted this ideology out. And so the X club was this meeting of the minds. They met regularly.

And they wanted to rid the discipline of natural science of spirituality. remove God from science completely. So remember, Joe LaDopo said DNA is part of our connection to God. But that kind of talk would never be allowed at the X club. So really, bottom line, Hugsley helped make science the new religion. And H.G. Wells, let's bring it back here, H.G. Wells won a scholarship to study biology under Huggsley, under Thomas Huxley.

So he becomes his protege. they they kind of see differently eye to eye when it comes to influencing society so hd wells then goes on in the late 1800s to write a book called war of the worlds war of the worlds it's basically these these unknown gases from mars come from it come from above from the from the planet and they come to earth and an object hits the ground on earth and in 1938 in a sunday evening if you were sitting around a radio at that time, the only median of information dissemination besides newspapers and books, you would have heard The War of Worlds by Orson Wells. Now, there's really no combination of people there. They're not related whatsoever. It just happened to have

a similar last name. So you have to understand at the time, too. Radio in 1938 is as popular as Amazon Prime, Netflix, social media, Twitter, X, Facebook, put all that into one. That was radio. So people just clamor to huddle around this radio every night and listen to the shows. So let's pick up War of the World. If you were there that night, this is what you heard. Take a listen. Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, here I am, back of a stone wall that joins Mr. Wilma's garden. From here, I get a sweep of the whole scene. I'll give you every detail as long as I can talk and as long as I can see. More state police have arrived.

They're drawing up a cordon in front of the pit. How 30 of them. need to push the crowd back now. They're willing to keep their distance. The captain's conferring with someone. Can't quite see who. Oh, yes, I believe it's Professor Pearson. Yes, it is. Now they've parted, and the professor moves around one side studying the object while the captain and two policemen advance with something in their hands. I can say it now. It's a white hexet tied to a pole. Flag of truce. Those preachers know what that means, what anything means. Wait a minute. Something's happening. Humped shape is rising out of the pit.

I can make out a small beam of light against a mirror. What's there? There's a jet of flame springing from the mirror that leaps right at the advancing men. It strikes them head on. Lord, they're turning in a flame. How the whole field's qualified by the woods, the fires, they're gas spitting everywhere.

Coming this way now, about 20 yards to my right... Ladies and gentlemen, due to circumstances beyond our control, we are unable to continue the broadcast from Grover's Mill. evidently there's some difficulty with our field transmission so it's cool to hear that i've never heard that story so many times i've never actually like listened to what that must have sounded like it's brilliant extremely dramatic if you listen to the whole thing they really did a great job orerson wells did and the cast there so the next the next couple days you see you saw this

in the headlines this is new york times from that time 1938 radio listeners in panic talking war drum Taking war drama as fact, many flee homes to escape gas raid from Mars, phone calls, swamp police, and another one, FCC to scan script of war broadcast radio system expressing its regrets at panic will curb simulated news items. So that's pretty much the first time we're hearing about fake news or misinformation in the news purposefully. And so that event was really a kickoff of how this new form of media can influence the population. And it was studied, too. We have a Princeton professor, Henry Cantrell, he wrote a book on this two years later. It's called The Invasion from Mars, a study in the psychology of panic. And so let's now fast forward to 2013.

You have the National Defense Authorization Act, and that was signed into law by Obama in 2013, this version of it. And let's take a look at specifically what was put in there. So it says in this article, the National Defense Authorization Act, NDAA for fiscal year 2013, allows U.S. government officials to disseminate in the United States news and information programs produced by the government at taxpayer's expense for audiences abroad. So you can propagandize the United States in motion pictures, in media, and podcasts. You can use taxpayer money. The government can specifically use this for its citizens. Now, it goes on to say this. This change in law, which earlier under the Smith-Mund Act of 1948, prohibited U.S. government officials from

actively distributing such material domestically raises constitutional and civil civil liberties questions. So you have that piece there and that was done. It's such a weird thing for Obama to go in and say, look, I want to be able to put out propaganda from the government. This act is getting on our way. I'm going to override it so that we can once again produce materials to manipulate people's thought. Right, right. And so we look at the wide, the wide, cast by propaganda. And it's very sophisticated now, as we saw through the COVID response, extremely sophisticated. You have censorship taking place. You have nonprofits that are really

influencing a lot of the conversation. But as we start to triangulate ideas, we see a couple ideas really rising to the top. And one of them was given to us by Klaus Schwab, the head of the W.E.F in 2020, so remember in 2020, he was out there talking about how the COVID pandemic was such a great opportunity for the fourth industrial revolution. Remember to put humanity in the back seat. Well, he was talking about something else in 2020 that a lot of people didn't hear about. Here it is.

We all know, but still pay insufficient attention to the frightening scenario of a comprehensive cyber attack which would bring to a complete halt

to the power supply, transportation, hospital services, our society as a whole. The COVID-19 crisis would be seen in this respect as a small disturbance in comparison to a major cyber attack. To use the COVID-19 crisis as a timely opportunity to reflect on the lessons of cybersecurity community, community can draw and improve our in preparedness for a potential cyber pandemic. I've been saying it all along, you know, when they're telling you there's another virus coming, we're going to, you know, have another pandemic, in this case a cyber pandemic. I would take them for

their word at this point. I would go ahead and say, you know, these crazy people are either just brilliant psychic seers or, you know, these crazy people are either just brilliant psychic seers or, you know, they seem to have their finger on some pulse that we need to get a hold of. But listen to them. And so it's hard to this guy, he talks out of both sides of his mouth or he's talking in inverted language because he's someone that's saying he wants to really just be done with current society the way it is because that's a whole fourth industrial revolution. So that society as we know is over, it's going to change and it's going to change for the better. But then he's saying here that these cyber attacks will disrupt society in unimaginable ways.

I thought that was this whole purpose of doing all this. So anyway, so you have the World Economic Forum. It's actually doing, remember with COVID, they had Event 201, where they were simulating these coronaviruses. Exactly pandemic that came just a few weeks later. Exactly. Well, the WEF is doing the same thing for cyber attacks. And this is the headline here when they started doing it.

prepping for a cyber pandemic worldwide drill underway. It says the World Economic Forum kicked off its annual Cyber Polygon exercise Friday, which gives companies and governments the opportunity to participate in a simulation of a cyber pandemic. And then about a year ago, the WF puts out a press release and starts to really put a fine point on timelines here. Geopolitical instability raises threat of catastrophic cyber attack in the next two years. So now we have a big timeline. And then we start seeing government start to talk about this. So this was last year, 2022.

Biden releases Russian cyber attack warning to all Americans. Here it is. So Biden's talking about that. And then just last week here in the UK, UK could be brought to a halt at any moment by cyber attack report warns. So this is where we're going. So again, triangulating this information, you have, you know, power centers, thought leaders like Klaus Schwab at the W. This cyber polygon. They're wargaming this thing.

talking about how it's going to change society. Then you have presidents and politicians and governments saying this is going to happen. And then this brings us back to the propaganda. What are the motion pictures doing? Well, it turns out 10 years after that NDAA was signed in 2013, you have this headline, the Obamas produced movie about cyber attack called Leave the World Behind. And if you haven't seen it, here's a clip from that show. Take a listen.

Because my primary client works in the defense sector, spent a lot of time studying the cost-benefit analysis of military campaigns. There was one program in particular that terrified my client the most. A simple three-stage maneuver that could topple a country's government from within. First stage was isolation. Disabled their communication and transportation. Make the target as deaf, dumb, and paralyzed as possible, setting them up for the second stage. Synchronized chaos.

terrorized and with covert attacks and misinformation, overwhelming their defense capabilities, leaving their weapons systems vulnerable to extremists in their own military. Without a clear enemy or motive, people would start turning on each other. Done successfully. Third stage would happen on its own. What's the third stage? Akuta, Civil War, collapse. Maybe a movie you don't want to watch for Christmas with family.

You know, I had to watch it because I knew we were going to be talking about it. And the truth is it's kind of boring, really slow. And I say that because when we do stories like this, we end up funding these stupid movies because we're all so curious what's going on here. But you're right. I mean, here it is. They're on the pulse or they are the pulse.

But either way, the fact that this is like the first movie the Obamas are going to get into film production, it is we just live in a very, very, very strange time here. And nobody's hiding anything, right? They're just doing right out in plain sight. And are we all going to say when there's a cyber attack that wipes out, you know, societies, we know it, wow, it's amazing. How brilliant they were. How they somehow just really knew this was going to happen. And it seems like there's this move to push a little bit of division into society with threats. These external threats were seemingly powerless against. And

One of the next movies, the Obama's production company is working on is this one right here. UFO abduction story of Barney and Betty Hill coming to Netflix with a new feature film. So here we are right back to the War of the World essentially with this ideology of this scary situation. Literally the guy that's had that meeting, right, that when we all think about your president of the United States, I'm sure everyone, even if you're not a consultant. All right, so lay it on me. Do we have aliens? Are there UFOs? What's going on?

and now when the person that's been in that room comes out and says, I'm going to make a movie about UFOs. Jesus. Okay, help us. On the back of cyber attacks. Wow. Predictive programming, who knows. But we have to just really pay attention to this

and see who's pulling these strings and putting these movies out and talking about what they're talking about. Amazing, Jeffrey. Well, I know you're paying attention, so we will all be paying attention to see how all these things roll out in the year 2024. I have a feeling this one's going to be a doozy. All right. I'm looking forward to it though because

certainly we will be a part of whatever's going on. Great reporting, Jeffrey. Very, very interesting stuff. Love the backstory. All right, thank you. All right. Happy holidays. I'm going to see you. Next time we see you, it'll be after Christmas. Yeah, you too. You tend to your family as well. Thank you. All right. Take care.

Well, you know, right on par with, you know, that idea of propaganda and the fact that they're manipulating everything. Who's in charge, right? Is, are these things, you know, is the cart before the horse? Well, that's a big part of the legal update that Aaron Siri has brought for us today. Wouldn't you think that the CDC is the one writing, you know, policies and ideas around a pandemic and a vaccine and things like that? Would it alarm you if, like, a social media company was doing it? Take a look at this. that were obtained from a Freedom of Information Act request that we submitted on behalf of

I-Can reveal the cozy relationship between Facebook and the CDC. Congress granted Facebook immunity with regards to content on its site because in part, it's supposed to act like a neutral intermediary. It's letting people post things and it's not getting involved to any serious degree. But in a recent Freedom of Information Act request response that we got from the CDC, we see something quite different. We see Facebook. directly interacting with the CDC, in fact, telling them they would like the CDC to add language to the CDC website so that the Facebook could then quote it. Amazingly, the language that the Facebook asked the CDC to put on their site was, quote,

according to the CDC, the benefits of vaccines are much greater than the risks associated with them. Vaccines can protect you, your family, and your community by preventing the spread of seriousness, end quote. First of all, it's really interesting that Facebook is asking. asking CDC to put that on its website. Even more interesting is the CDC doesn't put it on its website. Instead, it modifies the language,

and it almost is like negotiating with Facebook, and it writes back with different language that it's gonna put on, and it says, quote, safe, effective vaccinations are the best way to protect you, your family, and your community from serious effects of certain diseases, end quote. Interesting, isn't it? It doesn't put the quote on that Facebook asked

that the benefits far outweigh the risks, And it doesn't put on the language about preventing transmission and spread. Instead, it has a very, very watered down version of what Facebook asked to put on. Even more interesting is that Facebook recognizing its communications with CDC could be subject to the Freedom of Information Act. Specifically says, hey, given FOIA, can we have a call to discuss something? So it shows you there's a very cozy relationship between Facebook and the CDC. That's what this tranche of emails reflect. And it gives us insight into how social media companies operate, whether they really should have the immunity that Congress has given to them, and how the information that ends up on the CDC webpage.

And sometimes it's developed not necessarily directly by subject matter experts at CDC, but through apparently an exchange with the social media company. Man, that one's a for me. I mean, seriously. I mean, how bad is it going to get the most important regulatory agency when it comes to the health of American citizens isn't even writing its own policy, but Facebook wants to quote them, so they're saying, hey, CDC, could you put up a line something like blah, blah, blah,

so that we can quote our own quote that we told you to put out there? I mean, meanwhile, you know, guys like the Surgeon General of Florida are reaching out to the FDA and CDC asking really important scientific questions like, are you aware of these vaccines are contaminated, that they are not affected,

they're not stopping transmission, causing cancer and now we know that, well, you're writing to the wrong place. You should have been writing Facebook because they're the ones writing the policy for the CDC. Are you kidding me? My God, folks, we got some work to do. We are in real trouble here if you think this is how our government is running the United States of America and we're the leaders of the free world. All right, we got work to do next year. We're going to be doing a lot of that. But look, if you want to be on top of these, you know, legal points and are breaking news, then you want to be on our newsletter and it's super easy.

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that threw me into the middle of this conversation and changed my life forever. But he was always talking about this issue with mumps. And if you think about the MMR vaccine, that's the measles, mumps, and Rubella vaccine, well, there's a lot of questions around Mumps. Here's some of the headlines that have been actually in the news over the years. Take a look at this. We've got the first headline. This is courthouse news.

Class says Merck lied about Mumps vaccine. Another one. Merck accused of stonewalling in Mumps vaccine antitrust lawsuit. Why was all of this coming to everyone's attention? Well, it was because of these outbreaks that were happening. Several articles about that. Majority of Mumps cases are among the vaccinated the CDC finds as many as 94% of children and adolescents who contracted the highly contagious virus had been vaccinated. This is something I was watching while I was touring with Vaxed. Adults may be losing immunity to bumps. needed. This is just one of those stories that really telegraphs. This is before COVID, telegraph where we ended up being here. Vaccines that don't work, are there bigger problems around that? Well, there's a real fraud here. And there's two whistleblowers at the center of this

story. And Dr. Andrew Wakefield has decided to make a narrative movie about that story with a star-studded cast. And right now, get ready for it. The world premiere, the first time ever seen The trailer for Protocol 7 starts in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Roll it. He was an orphan of conflict in Africa. He was smart and bright, and then we got him home, and he crashed right in front of us. Some very important people are saying our vaccine does not work. You've got to want to read this.

They fake the data. They cheated on every level. You said you're a lawyer. Family law. And you want to understand why. Let me see it. What about he shawl? Your son and every other son and daughter

depends on whether or not you choose to live by their rules. Incineration. Immediately. What a big? Right, nothing's what they got. Were you aware of the lab's failure to demonstrate efficacy at the mumps vaccine? A level required by the FDA?

No, to respond to the FDA's concerns. And leave a dangerous vaccine on the market. Dangerous? Objection. Strongly recommended booster shots. Of course you did. This is a confidential body. These were shredded.

It's a protocol. They've got the sheets. They've got the evidence I was told they didn't have. No one will ever believe them again. Well, the film is called Protocol 7. It's my honor and pleasure to be joined by the writer, director, the one and only, Dr. Andrew Wakefield. They're great to be back. Great to be back.

It's so great to have you here. And I'm just, I'm blown away. I know, you know, we made VACS together. I mean, almost all of what I do now wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for the work that we did together. But to see this journey, this is a film that is clearly, I think, going to send shockwaves across the world. Moving out of documentaries, which I think tend to, you know, there's only sort of a specific people of, you know, those types of people that want to educate themselves with a film, go to a documentary. Now you're moving into narrative film.

Why this story? Well, the narrative film, because I wanted to push myself further. I wanted to communicate with many, many more people. As you say, there is a certain sector of the population, particularly those who already know this story, or are involved in some way in vaccine safety, in health freedom, who will watch it. But I want to make something that entertains and goes out far wider

to a global population. And that was really everything changed. as you're fully aware with COVID. Yeah. Suddenly the audience magnified by a factor of a thousand, 10,000. When we started in this years ago, you and I know that there were probably a handful of people worldwide prepared to discuss this issue. Now it's more than half the adult population of the world. And that's what winning is. Winning is uncomfortable, it's painful, that's what it looks like. And this story because it was given to me by the whistleblower,

by the whistleblower many, many years ago when autism won, the conference was still downtown in Chicago. And at the time, I was still in practice, in science, and so I would hand these whistleblower stories off to lawyers to be handled as they felt fit. And to be clear, just for people that are aware of your story, aware of what we've done together, this is not the whistleblower from Vax, Dr. William Thompson at the CDC. This is a different whistleblower story. That's right. This is two employees from Merck, from Merck's vaccine lab, Steve Carlin and Joe Malkowski. And this is all in the public domain. There's nothing secret about any of this. And I handed it off to lawyers and it went through the due process and it dragged and it dragged.

Now, bear in mind, you and my, we have a responsibility to the public. We're not responsible to the lawyers. Right, true. We're answerable to the public. And this had dragged on in litigation for over a decade, and nothing had happened. The same vaccine, the Mumps vaccine in this case, was still being used, still wasn't working. People were likely being injured or put at risk as a consequence of that. And nothing was being done.

It was being fought under seal. Which is what pharma does, right? They can afford, they have billions and billions of dollars, even more. since COVID, but they just drag these things out and drag them out. They just, you know, what they want to do is cost, you know, the other lawyer is so much money that everyone just gives up. That's right. And the documents were sealed to the public, the public who were really defrauded.

Yeah. Would never get to know. There would ultimately be a settlement for potentially a large amount of money and it would make three columns or three lines in on page five of the New York Times. The people would not know about it. Right. And so my responsibility as a filmmaker with this story was to get it out to the public far and wide.

There needs to be accountability. I mean, I'm sure one of the things you've recognized, particularly with VACS, is there was no accountability. Even though these people admitted to committing fraud, the documents were quite clear. They went on, collected their pensions, thank you very much. That's unacceptable. That can't happen anymore. There has to be accountability, and that's why this film was made.

You know, that's sort of been the theme with the work that you've done. And when we look at Vaxed, I mean, this is probably the controversy around Vaxed is that, you know, in that case, Dr. William Thompson is, you know, pouring out his guts in these interviews and talking to Brian Hooker. But what happens if that never seems the light of day? And also, what was the danger to him as an individual, I think, were things that you thought about. But, you know, coming from medicine, you were a doctor, you've been in the middle, you've been in the middle of the controversy you've been the one on the stand you've been the one in the courtrooms you decided to take another approach which is let's go to the courtroom of public opinion right and and let's let's let the people decide

what's really taking place here so you've been really true to that you know beacon I would say in this story you know people don't think about mumps as part of the MMR vaccine is that why you did it is it because it also has to do with this vaccine that is really sort of a part of your legacy or is it just the story itself? Like what really grabbed your attention here? Because there are so many stories you could have told. I mean, we cover them all the time on the high wire.

Why this one? I suppose the nature of the vaccine is less important than the fact that this is synonymous with pharmaceutical company behavior time and time again. What happened with COVID is a lot of people came forward and said, a lot of experts, a lot of great people, and said, wow, I'm happy about it. I'm happy about all the childhood vaccines, but this one, no, no, this hasn't been tested,

it's unsafe, it's experimental. And for those of us who'd been in this for a long time, we had to take them back over that bridge to the childhood schedule and show them what had been going on for many, many years in the context of every single vaccine. So mumps, this story was really an example of that. And what we had here was a very interesting situation where it was really about, you efficacy, if you have a vaccine that only works for a short period of time, like the mumps vaccine now turns out to do, then what you have is a situation where you become susceptible

again to mumps as a teenager and as a young adult. What's the problem with that? That mumps is a trivial disease in children, acknowledged to be a trivial disease. The CDC didn't even want a mumps vaccine until Morris Hilleman foisted it on them. The problem is that if you have mumps when you're post-pubity, particularly for males, then you can develop ocytis, testicular inflammation, and sterility. So there, not only is it a problem of efficacy, does the vaccine work or not, but it's an issue of safety because you're bumping the age of susceptibility up to when it becomes

a serious disease. It literally is, you want to have it as a young child. It has no effect on you whatsoever, but when you wait until you're a teenager, now we have a serious problem. And that's all the vaccine's doing. You know, so tell me about like the process of making a film because, you know, it's a very different thing to sit people down and do an interview and, you know, just document that, which is what we've done together and a lot of what I do. Now you've got Eric Roberts, you know, powerful actor, a dynamic presence playing. roles. What was that like? Well, it was a lot of fun. It was terrifying, but a lot of fun. Starting with the writing, I wrote it in 2012, and then I went back to L.A., lived there for a while,

and work with Terry Rossio to finish it, and people say Terry Rossio, who's he? Terry Rossio, little known screenwriter of little known films like Shrek Pirates of the Caribbean, Godzilla versus King Kong. Yeah. I mean, it goes on and on. The guy's magic, wonderful. Who is also a big part, people don't know, Vax, gave us great notes as we were working through that, you know, very, very talented guy. He and his wife have been absolutely wonderful. And every time I sat down with Terry, it was like a masterclass in screenwriting. It was fantastic. And then it came to making the movie.

Well, making documentaries, again, very, and this is where my two producers, Joy Vesacka and Brian Wendell came in. They made a huge difference. They came in. and they just consummate professionals, they just made everything work. The set to work on was a joy. And I can imagine that making movies sometimes with stars and starlets and people with ego,

there was no ego on the set, it was absolutely wonderful. So it just allowed me to do my job. And the one thing I owe this to you guys, when we come to something like the diet in autism, or, the risk of drowning in autism or the regression, which the medical profession had denied forever. Before the scene was shot, we would,

I'd take the whole crew and we just talk about it. Why this scene? Why is this scene important? Why are we doing this? Because you're gonna look at this and you're gonna think, well, the kids are going on a gluten-free diet. That doesn't make any sense.

How can that possibly affect autism until you realize that it does? Right. And so what I was able to do is take all of the, everything I'd learned, and the vast majority, in fact, almost everything I've learned about autism comes from parents, principally mothers, the mothers who affected children,

and communicate that information to the crew. And once they understood, and this worked on two levels, one, they understood why we were doing the scene, but two, someone had taken the trouble to explain to them why this is what we were doing. And we had an absolutely wonderful relationship. And I can never imagine it being, the same again. Maybe we should never aspire to that. Maybe next time it'll be different,

but just as good. Right. So when are you expecting to be able to release the full film? The full film will come out late first quarter, early second quarter of next year. Okay. We've got that runway for getting out there, talking about it, advertising, battling with the elements. We'll see how the response we get from the courts or Merck or whatever else it might be. I mean, I wonder, do you think, are you looking at distribution a little bit differently right now, you know, post-COVID? There does seem to be, you know, some attention to these issues.

Do you think, I mean, we've just planned on a total blackout with Vaxed, you know, and it took work. Do you think that that's what you're expecting here or do you think I think that's a number of things have changed. After Vaxed, there was very, very little attention given to the movies. by the pharmaceutical industry or anyone else. They made a mistake with Vax. They gave it an immense amount of publicity.

They had it censored from Tribeca. It made it a worldwide phenomenon. They learned their lesson. They never mentioned the act. I wonder how they'll deal with this one, because it is so confrontational. It is so in your face. It does name names.

It'll be very interesting. The other thing that's changed is post-COVID movie theaters, are desperate for content. It wasn't like the abundance of content they had before. Now they're trying to get people back into the movie theaters and they need films like this. And a great lesson was

Sound of Freedom. There was a movie that the system, the Hollywood infrastructure, had rejected didn't fit with their agenda for whatever reason and it did extraordinarily well because it was a film that mattered. And what people want to see more than anything now is films that matter, films that count, films that move the needle.

And this is a film that most surely, assuredly moves the needle. Well, fantastic. You know, Andy, I'm so proud of you. You know, it is a, it is a Herculean task to make a narrative picture. The costs so much higher, you know, having sets, having actors, people with salaries, not just scientists sitting down. And, you know, the fact that you've pulled all that off, that you have a story. I mean, to again, this, you know, this miraculous moment being created, you were, you started this, and I, you know, it was something you were working on even in talking about, even when we were working together, our film released in 2016, the fact that you're going to hit this, that you were working through COVID on this, and now, as you've said, we have a totally

different world. You're going to be stepping out, and I think it's just, it's such critical importance, because it is the number one question that we get when we talk to people now, which is, okay, I get it. The COVID vaccine was a disaster. It was rushed on the market. But the rest of the program is okay, right? That doesn't happen with every vaccine. And now, you know, you're about to pull a brick out of that dam. You know, when you look to the future and, you know, how much is your past and this journey you've been on, do you feel fulfilled? I feel that we've been on the right path, but it's a journey. My sadness is that we, something that constrains my fulfillment is there are so many damaged children out there.

So many children that we were unable to help, unable to get to, unable to get to their parents, to warn them in time, to allow them to come to their own decision, their own choice, not to say don't vaccinate or vaccinate, but to let them, to make them aware. I think that it's been a fascinating journey. I wouldn't change any of it. It's been an enormous privilege to look after these families and ultimately to report their stories in documentary or narrative films. Do I feel fulfilled?

I'm not ready to quit yet. There's still several movies in me. All right. Well, speaking of those children that we, have not been able to help yet and those that are, I mean the the autism spectrum is claiming more and more lives every single year. Numbers now range between one in 20 and one in 35 depending on what study you look at whether it's a boy or a girl are now being diagnosed with autism. It truly is the epidemic of our lifetime and yet

no one in media seems to want to talk about it for all those parents out there that are dealing with it that aren't in the news but are at home. having handled that, where do they go? Where do they get information? There are, you know, many healing modalities that seem to be working in this space. Well, there's a great conference coming to Texas. That's also gonna be previewing the extended trailer

for Andy's new film. This is what that's all about. So my dream for probably a good 10 years or so has been to run an autism event. To really educate those parents, on addressing those underlying conditions associated with autism. And truly, truly hearing from the best speakers that there are on the planet. Dr. Andrew Wakefield, Del Bigtree, Mickey Willis,

all these doctors that have been on the forefront, Dr. Jerry Cartsonnell, Dr. Brian Hooker, Dr. Judy Mikovitz, Dr. Peter McCulloch, Dr. James Nuswander, Jeff Sewell, and daughter Sienna and Olivia, the Spellers Community, and Don Marie Gavon, and all these amazing doctors, scientists, and parents, on how to address the underlying biological conditions associated with autism and other neurological disorders. Hello everyone, this is Andy Wakefield. I'm excited to announce that we will be hosting an exclusive event at the Autism Health Summit in San Antonio on February 3rd. At the event, we will be showing the trailer and select scenes from our new movie Protocol 7. And following the presentation, we will have a Q&A with two of the lead actors from the movie, the writer-director, and our producers. This is a one-of-a-kind experience you will not want to miss.

There's a lot of bad stuff that's happening. And what is almost invisible to the eye is the good stuff it's happening. And I believe we're heading towards a wellness that we've not experienced in many, many decades or generations. It's important, though, regardless of what kind of power we think we hold or don't hold, that we understand that it's imperative that we all step forward. We need to research. to find out because the people are watching this probably think me alone can't save the world.

But if we get a community, if we get a group, we can really affect the world. Well, joining us in this conversation now is Tracy Slebsvik, the founder of the Autism Health Summit. Thank you for coming in today. Thanks for having me again. And we had you on to talk about your book, Warrior Mom. And so, you know, author and now taking on a major conference this is the inaugural conference this year why why why do this so I had a mother call me recently and say why are you throwing this conference and I said the number one reason was to bring parents together to know that they're not

alone not just to give them information new science new treatments new therapies but to know that there's a community of parents that are going through the same thing, that they are just not alone. Because when Noah was first diagnosed with autism, I can tell you that was the number one feeling I had. And it wasn't that I didn't have great support from my family and my husband and everybody,

but I was like, who's gonna understand me? Who's gonna understand what I'm going through? So all these parents, you bring them together, You bring them together, you know, you also bring together the professionals and the doctors and teach them new things because we are offering CME credits. And give them the opportunity to look at it from a different angle. And then one other reason was to highlight Andy. Yeah. I know he's too proud and he's very kind.

But I'm here to say and to say publicly that here is a man that stepped out to stand up for these kids so long ago. And he had nothing to gain from it, nothing, and everything to lose. He risked his life. He risked his career. his medical license, years of training and work and everything that he had done, to stand up and do what so many doctors are doing that I'm bringing to this conference to speak. And that is the oath that they took to do no harm. And that is what Andy's done.

That's what many other doctors have done. And that's what I want the world to know, that they're still out there. And if you want to, you know, give me grief on social media because these doctors are speaking, good, I don't want you there. I don't. Because you have to come with an open mind to learn. And that's what I had. So many years ago, when my naturopathic doctor told me, Noah will be fine.

you need to go home and do your research. And as Andy said earlier, he's not telling parents what to do. He's saying here, here's the information. Do your own research. Don't listen to me. Don't listen to the thousands of parents who are saying my child regressed from an MMR vaccine.

Do your own research. Yeah. You know, Andy, Tracy, it brings up an interesting point. In many ways, you were all alone as a doctor out there on this issue. You know, when you first started looking at the MMR vaccine and recognize, you know, the famous Lansett studied 12 parents coming forward, you were there as a voice for them and then the, you know, ultimately hundreds of thousands, if not millions of parents out there. I think somewhere between 40 to 80 percent, depending on the study you look at, believe that their child. autism, you know, was related to the vaccination.

Are you sensing this, the seismic shift, I believe, is going on with doctors like Dr. Peter McCullough. I mean, not just any doctor, sort of like you, an expert in this field, a leading, you know, heart doctor in the world most published, is coming around and looking at the childhood vaccine. You've got Dr. Pierre Corey, you know, who's run hospital departments is now investigating this. you know, Paul Merrick, probably I think the living most published ICU doctor is now looking at vaccines, this autism connection.

And I sat at Ron Johnson's hearing with, you know, I don't know, at least 20 doctors. And I said to them before we started, I just want you to know the doctor that's not here is the one that was here all by himself. And that's Dr. Andrew Wakefield. Finally, you're all coming together. there is now this almost tidal wave of world-renowned professionals that are finally starting to look at this issue. Do you feel that? Are you aware of that? Definitely. I was on a stage with Paul Merrick the other day in Atlanta, I think it was, and he sat down together, great guy, lovely guy, and he said a year ago, I thought you were

insane. And now I know he not. That was reassuring. So it's changed dramatically. And what's fascinating is how the other side react to it, that here you have someone like Peter McCullough, the most published cardiologist in the world, top of his profession, top of his game. And one day he's a genius who's, you know, the fount of all knowledge on cardiologist. The next minute he's some crazy loon. You know, you can't get away with that kind of story for too long. Right.

People see through that. They say, hang on a minute. Yeah. This guy's done all this. And then suddenly the next day he's the lunatic because he doesn't agree with you. They're losing so badly. Yeah. They're losing the propaganda war.

They're losing. And the reason is because we have truth on our side. They don't have truth. The one of you don't have truth, you've got nothing. And I don't think they even care. Well, you know, when I'm dealing with the Merck people, that we were dealing with the guys at the CDC, they don't care.

They don't care about Merck or the longevity of Merck or its share price. As long as they've made their bonus, as long as they've got out at the other end with the money intact, they'll move on. There's no great affection for the CDC, the CDC for William Thompson, it was just going to pay his pension. That's all.

He was at the other end. So the difference is that those people on one side can, they just move on once they've got their bonus. There's no real concern about what they've done, why they've done it, what the consequences of what they've done are. On the other side of it, you've got mothers where it matters enormously. It's everything. You've got parents.

And they will never be defeated. never ever be defeated because they know the truth and part of them has been broken and they will never quit until they have got to the bottom of it and that is why ultimately this side cannot win and the mothers the parents the doctors who've aligned with them and tried to understand the dilemma that they face will prevail one of the things with Vax that I think I say was probably the best part of it not only was it, you know, great in waking up a lot of people. I think it's still a powerful tool, but it was how it brought the community of autism parents together. I remember that one of the first screenings when, you know, I decided, I was just curious, why is there a line down the block? And I said, well, everyone with a vaccine injured child, please stand up, and three quarters of the room stood up. And it felt like the oxygen was sucked out of the room. I've told this

story so many times. I knew this was an issue. We had, I'd been a part of interviewing a dozen families with you. But I had no idea it was that big. But what was so amazing is neither did those parents that stood up. I felt like they all saw each other in the room and a movement was truly born there, which was like, oh my God. And people came up to me and said, I didn't know this person lives on the same block as I do.

You know, and we've been hiding in our homes. We thought we're all alone and suddenly this movement came together. But I feel like, you know, with COVID and all this, that connection, you know, where do they get together, right? Like, it was Vax gave all these families a reason to talk to come together. But COVID has sort of changed the conversation. And I feel like there's still this huge issue and this huge group of people that have, you know, they need something to connect on.

Is that, I mean, is that your feeling on this? They do. And they need new information. There is a whole popularity behind being, autistic now. I have to tell you that. So us parents who stand up and want to address those underlying conditions are being ridiculed for our hard work and everything. Even my own son, listen, I'm not trying to change you. You would not be functioning if it wasn't for me. I don't take away that you have autism. I don't I'm not taking away your disability because you know, It's, it's, that's the whole narrative these days. We like being autistic.

Don't change us. Leave us alone. It isn't about changing an autistic person. It's about making them well. So, you know, as I wanted to give my son a full life, here it is, you know, he's 18 now. Things have changed. He wants to eat what he wants to eat. my diet that I so restricted him for most of his life on is has.

So he's a typical teenager. Yeah. But I can tell you, he's very loving. He's very respectful. And I keep telling parents, I'm like, you know, you have one challenge. You know, there's something out there. Keep searching. Keep searching.

So I threw everything into this conference that I possibly could. could. I got every best speaker that I possibly could, including herself and Mickey, and, you know, to really just give them as much information and lead them in the right direction, because that's all I ever wanted back then was just, can you direct me this way? Because I used to be able to Google healing autism, and I would get so much great information online in 2009, but you can't do it anymore. It's so censored. Yeah, they've definitely whitewashed the internet. I go and look for studies and things that I know were there that I've used before and just pages and pages and where did all of that go. It's really shocking. I remember when we were sitting and making

faxed, Andy, I asked you once. I said, are you concerned that they'll never realize you were right, that, you know, autism will just go on and, you know, that we'll never get to the truth. And, you know, you said, no, I'm not concerned about that at all. You just said this will continue to be a growing issue. And one day, it will be so obvious that no one will be able to deny it. And you just said, my goal is to try and make that happen sooner than later, so we just don't lose any more children. Do you feel like, do you feel like that, you know, sort of fulcrum point that's coming, that realization moment? Are we close?

I'm a pathological optimist, as you know. I think it is close. I had been in a color say the other day that he believes vaccines are linked with autism. Yeah. For someone of Peters standing to get up and say that, that's a huge shift. And these things begin slowly, but they increase exponentially. The awareness increases exponentially. And it's facilitated by, that is, if you like, the silver lining of the very dark cloud of COVID,

is that people have come to realize that they should not trust the government. They shouldn't trust public health. They should not invest their trust for sure in the vaccine manufacturers, but invest their trust in those people who have put everything on the line to bring them the truth from the very beginning. And I think so there is this seismic shift in perception that is happening now. And because of the exponential nature of this, it will accelerate. I sometimes put myself in the, you know, when I'm a little down or people say we're losing,

I put myself in the mindset of someone on K Street in one of those hugely expensive offices where, you know, pharmaceutical industries pay a fortune for public relations and all that stuff. And they're screaming at each other. Why the hell are we not winning? Right. Why can't we convince these stupid people that the pharmaceutical industry are right? And I'd say that amused me and it also reassure them because I'm sure if it's bad for us, it's a hell of a lot but worse for them right now.

I agree. The conversation's got to be shifting. Tony Fauci is going to be on the stand having the answer to, you know, Wuhan, but also you have this all-cause mortality, excess mortality, is now unavoidable. Pierre Corey had a great article last week on the Hill. I mean, this is mainstream now. I mean, even, you know, Fox News, you're hearing anchors talk about medical freedom and a right to choose and back. So the whole conversation is absolutely shifted. And at the heart of it, Andy, I just don't know that any of us are here without the work that you've done.

But all these scientists, these doctors are now coming out, modern, you know, this conversation, they're all going to be at this conference. So for anyone that really wants to be a part of this and see these people speak in the truth and what they actually know, the scientific understanding, both in what's happened and how to do something about it. What are the dates of the conference, just give me the details and where do we go to sign up? All right. So it is February 2nd and 3rd of 2024. Right. It is in San Antonio at the J.W. Marriott, San Antonio Hill Country Resort and Spa.

They can go to autismhealth.com to register. They just go under registration. It is on virtual. So those who cannot attend, they can buy a virtual ticket. And there is scholarships for virtual. But it'll be a wonderful event. All meals are included. There will be a great VIP hour, which I'm really excited about. Andy and his team will be there as producers, the actors, you know, will show a little clip of Protocol 7.

But also I have Jeff Sowell, which you know, which you know, and his two daughters singing. So here is a world-renowned tenor singer. Del's got a great voice. Did you know that? You've got to ask Del to get up and sing. I use it to speak now. The singing, another life on that.

But the story that they have is nothing short of amazing. You know, same story. daughter regresses. They use all the biomedical intervention. She is fully functioning today. And here she is singing alongside of her father. Just like

flawlessly. It was a story that truly caught my eye and I reached out to Simone, her mother and I'm like, oh my gosh, I just saw your interview. I'm like, how do I get you guys to the conference? And she was like, well, as long as they drop these

COVID mandates, you know, to go into the states we can make it. And so they will be there. They will be singing and telling their story. The Spellers community is going to be there. So we will be showing the documentary of Spellers. Great. And we'll be highlighting that.

I mean, there's really so much. If I could have packed it into two days. I did. You know, because once you get behind those two days, it gets to be a little bit too much. But it'll be so much fun. And I'm truly great. for your support, for Andes, and all the doctors who chose to step up and make it out to the

conference, Dr. Judy Mikevitz, Dr. Brian Hooker, Dr. Peter McCulloch, I mean, I honestly have the best of the best, Dr. James Neuswander. These doctors truly are doing what it is that they took a note to do. And it is an absolute honor. not just sit up on this stage with you, but with Andy, because I know I speak for thousands of parents who over and over are like, oh my gosh, I'm just so grateful. And I can't even begin to express my gratitude to Andy, because if he didn't do what he did, where would my son be today? Yeah. So to all of those who want to say whatever it is that they want to say, you know, you can talk out of both ends.

But, you know, the truth is, is he truly had nothing to gain from this. Nothing. He didn't. He gave up everything. And I'm proud to sit on this stage with him. And when I walk around the airport and I'm traveling from place to place to speak, I carry my books with me and if I see a new mother

the number one thing I do is I'll take out my book I'll look at her and I'll say if I give you a book and you knew it would save your child's life would you read it and I haven't had a mother tell me no but it's that's

what we're trying to do one life at a time save lives so everything that you've done there's a ripple effect in everything that we do Yeah. And it ripples out. And what you've done, I know you've made tremendous sacrifices.

And I just want to say thank you. I'm going to say thank you for millions of parents out there for myself, because I remember listening to you speak at conferences way back in the day. And he is a, he's like the coolest human being in general. He truly is. Well, look, I look forward to being a part of this. standing on a stage with you, Andy, and so many of the great scientists and doctors that are coming around on this conversation and all the parents that need that information. You've been

just a pioneer here. Your book is moving mountains and I just want to wish you both the best. You're such a big part of my life and I really look forward to this event to sort of get to share that story and that experience and these truths with the world. So thank you for what both of you are doing looking forward to film and definitely looking forward to the Autism Health Summit. Thank you. All right, we'll see you there. All right, well look, if you expedite shipping, you may still be able to get some of the great Christmas merch we have at our store.

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And maybe if you're close, you can swing by and watch a live taping of the high wire. You know, all of the things that we did this year are part of our concern for children, for the future, for this earth. And I want you to remember that, you know, we're in this together. You are a part of our family. That's why I call it a network. You are the informed consent action network. And I want to say this as we go to the holiday tables over this weekend, remember it's all about love. remember to, you know, when we have these conversations that we do need to have, I'm not telling

to avoid it, but just remember, smile, stay at peace, and just recognize that, you know, just because we have more information doesn't mean we have to be difficult. We can just forgive, open up, and then answer questions, ask questions, hold that space of love. That is how we change this world. There's a lot of work that needs to be done, and we are not going to get it done, certainly not in this country if we are totally divided. We will not sustain all of the things that are coming our way. If we continue this division, we've got to start working to find common ground, commonplace. And remember the reasons we all love each other.

That's my wish for you this holiday season. May it be filled with joy and memories. And I will see you next week.