The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 354: INDOCTRINATED

Episode Date: January 12, 2024

ICAN’s Attorneys Have Obtained New Data The CDC Doesn’t Want You to See; Jefferey Jaxen Reports on runaway excess deaths in a post-COVID vaccine world, German Farmers Protest is next level, and sc...ience-backed causes of ‘climate change’; Author of ‘The Indoctrinated Brain’ Gives you tools to combat the attack on our Medical FreedomGuests: Aaron Siri, Esq., Michael Nehls, M.D., Ph.D.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:46 Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world. It's time to step out onto the high wire. Well, this is our first show back in studio in the new year. I want to thank Barbara Lowe Fisher for that amazing interview that was out last week. so many beautiful comments from all of you. I know I learned something. I mean, it's amazing how many judgments we have
Starting point is 00:01:28 until we actually have the facts, which is what we do here. I had an amazing holiday. I hope you did too. I will say, I know I told all of you as you were going out there, you know, be kind, be nice, try and open up these conversations, but I'll share a little secret with you.
Starting point is 00:01:44 I kind of lost my cool a couple times. I mean, I don't know about you, but some of our friends and family out there are like really in-dye. indoctrinated into the thinking, which is a lot of what this show is going to be about today. You know, what's really going on, where are we at, how are we all going to come together and get this earth back on track and get our sovereignty and our freedom back in our own hands, especially when some of those that we love are like fighting us on the topic.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Anyway, welcome back. This is the high wire. We're so excited. Lots of promise in 2024. I think this one's going to be a doozy. All right, so to begin with today, we want to talk about one of the big legal wins that we have. And to do that, let me just sort of set the stage. I know many of you are brand new to this show. Tuning in for different reasons. It's the new year you want to check out maybe a different way of thinking or a way of investigating. But we got involved with when the Pfizer and the COVID vaccines came out, the CDC decided that they need some sort of tracking system,
Starting point is 00:02:49 since we obviously skipped out of the safety trials. With the emergency authorization, we got out early. So there'd be no long-term review of actually whether that vaccine was safe or not. Or how about was it even a vaccine, but that's a whole other conversation. So they decided, created a system for your cell phone in which you could sort of check in on it and answer questions. How are you feeling today right after your vaccine? Do you have a fever? Do you have any aching in your joints and things like that?
Starting point is 00:03:17 so they could track how everyone was doing. Well, the CDC had promised that they were going to be really transparent since we did not really know the safety protocol, this product, and was being given to millions, if not billions of people around the world without any real understanding the safety. They said, we're going to let you know everything we find out. Well, when we use FOIA, which is the Freedom of Information Act request, which is one of the things that we do with our nonprofit,
Starting point is 00:03:43 the informed consent action network, which is, you know, who funds this show, our nonprofit, we used FOIA, which is we asked Pfizer and the CDC and every, can you provide us with that data from the V-Safe data? We'd like to see it. We'd like to see how people are responding to this vaccine. Well, we fought them in court for over a year. In fact, we had to keep bringing different lawsuits just to get to this data that was supposed to be transparent. A lot of work for transparency in this country these days. Anyway, we finally won that case. and they provided all of the filled in data that had been checkboxed on this app by the, I think it's 10 million users, about 10 million users. Well, this was what that moment looked like on our show when we celebrated that win.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Take a look at this. There were 10, 108,273 individual users. These are folks that actually signed up and registered to use V-Safe and to provide health checks. Okay. Here is the adverse health impacts. When they were showing it on the screen, right? There was those check the boxes where you could check one of the three- So someone checked, unable to perform normal activities.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And then in the middle, like the more moderate, missed work or school, did not go in. And then there was required medical care or hospitalization. Of the 10 million people in this system, 782,913 checked this box. They checked the box, I went to a doctor. went to the hospital I was admitted into the ER after my vaccination so that number by the way is about 7.7 percent and most of the reports came in in the first week or so after vaccination that they needed some type of medical care yeah being a doctor emergency room or hospitalization wow on average folks who
Starting point is 00:05:40 needed medical care that reported it on average needed it almost three times to Meaning they made multiple visits, not just one. Oh, I was overreacting and going home. They came back, you know, or went deeper into the medical system. So your audience understand. Yeah. We've only received the data for the check the box fields. There was a bill in the blank box.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Right. We have not received that yet. All right. Well, there it was us announcing. We got incredible. We built a whole dashboard, which you can still find on our website that takes you through all of that data that we referred to there. And there it is in real time.
Starting point is 00:06:21 You can click on all the different things inside of there to ask different questions, you know, ethnicities, just different specifics about the people that signed into that registry. Well, I'm joined now by the lawyer that fights these cases for us and made it possible for the world to see this data, no one other than Aaron Siri from Aaron Siri in Glimstad. Aaron, thank you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Pleasure. All right. So we were really excited when we got that data. But, you know, from the very beginning, you said, Del, they're holding something back from us. And it's really important. What was it that they were holding back when we received that data? Because it had a lot of incredible information. Yeah, they were withholding the free text fields.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Those are fields in which individuals using the V-Safe system, those 10 million individuals, could write in whatever they wanted. And the reason that those free text fields and the data in those free text fields are so critical is that the check-the-box information as incredible as it is in terms of what you've just showed, right? Right now, we're looking at that check-the-box on our screen. This is what yourself will look like. Look at what they ask you to check. You had pain, redness, swelling, itching, or none.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And then if you want to get deeper into it, chills, headache, joint pains, muscle, or body aches, fatigue, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain, rash. And that was it. I mean, that was basically it as far as the types of symptoms they were looking at. And I know you're going to get into it. But meanwhile, from the very moment these trials started, we were hearing things like anaphylaxis, people like almost dying from allergic reactions. We were hearing about myocarditis, swelling of the heart, you know, strokes,
Starting point is 00:08:10 all Bell's palsy. And for whatever, you know, why, you know, were they aware? I mean, we've talked about this before. They were aware that those were actually the really concerning issues, yet they weren't in this check-to-box fields. No, all of the issues that we and now know are concerning from the COVID-19 vaccines, they well knew that those were issues of concern before the first vaccine was rolled out in December of 2020.
Starting point is 00:08:37 The reason we know that is because we have a copy of the VCAP. protocol. That is the 50-page document that the CDC used to design V-safe as far as we're aware. And on the last page of that protocol, it lists, as you could see on your screen there, the adverse events of special interests, pre-specified medical conditions. And on that list are the very issues that we now know the vaccine can cause like myricoditis, paracoditis, on the list also is transverse myelitis, stroke, uh, uh, blood clotting, anaphydrac. Phylaxis, Guillain-Barre syndrome, yeah. A whole host of it.
Starting point is 00:09:16 The list is right there on the screen. Look at the date, everyone. That's November 19th of 2020. So that is in 2020. They know before, you know, anyone's really, you know, getting this vaccine and signing up, this is what they're saying. Here's the issues we're seeing in trials and that we should probably be looking for with our, you know, tracking system. But did they put it in the app? No, they did not.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Instead, what they put in the app, as you could say, as everybody just saw, are the symptoms that the CDC will tell you are totally normal to occur, especially in the first week after vaccination. They actually call that reactogenicity. They say that those are good to have. That means the vaccine's working. Right. So when those symptoms occur, they say great.
Starting point is 00:10:06 They say great. It's great. You have those symptoms. And in fact, 30, 40, 50, 60 percent of the vaccine. the VSAFE users reported one or more of those symptoms. And the CDC published studies going, oh, wonderful. The vaccine's working. So those symptoms by their own admission, by the way.
Starting point is 00:10:23 And we know this from FOIAs, other FOIAs, for the person who essentially ran the VCA program at CDC. He said, oh, yeah, these symptoms are meaningless for assessing safety. And they certainly are. The CDC could have easily, as they had in their very protocol in November of 2020, Remember, the first vaccine was only EU8 in December of 2020, a month later. They could have listed. How about just chest pain? Chest pain.
Starting point is 00:10:51 That would give you a sense of some type of cardiovascular, you know, of myocarditis, or pediatric carditis. They could have done numbness in your extremities that could have indicated Gianbrae syndrome. There's a whole host of symptoms. They could have also just literally just listed those conditions, but they chose not to. They chose instead to relegate those to the free test. text fields and that's what makes getting that data, those 7.8 million free text entries so critical
Starting point is 00:11:17 so we could see what symptoms were reported. So out of 10, let me just make this clear. Out of 10 million people that signed up to this registry, by the way, clearly all fans of the vaccine, these are not people that were forced in the situation. These are the early goers. They're like, get me in there. And oh, I'd love to track my health. So these are people that wanted the vaccine to work for them. Out of 10 million people, you're saying there's over 7 million free text fields, meaning that the headache and the fever and the nausea and the rashes and things that were listed like that didn't actually cover the specificity of the issues that they were suffering from.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah, and you know, I mean, we live in an age where people don't like to read and write so much. Right. So I suspect actually the fact that 7.8 entries were entered is already, you know, incredibly, you know, should be troubling because I don't think people are writing in, thank you. They're writing in symptoms. They're writing in issues of concern. And, you know, we even have, you know, one PhD who took the vaccine as a way to be a model for her students. Use the V-Safe system.
Starting point is 00:12:27 We actually have, she shared copies of her entries with us. And, you know, man, they're really troubling. Oh, there it is on your screen. I mean, here's an example. She, you know, here it is. She's reporting to. the CDC shortly after getting the vaccine and she says, look, I've got nausea, vomiting, ER visits, plus two times urgent care,
Starting point is 00:12:48 chest x-rays, EKG, referral to cardiologist, immunology, continued symptoms, 100 beats per minute resting heart rate and more chest pain. She said she's had no underlying health conditions, meaning she's all the only, the only issue that could be is the vaccine, she got an MRI. And she writes, help me exclamation point. Here it is, this is a person that went out,
Starting point is 00:13:08 got the vaccine purposely to kind of encourage her students to get it. As you pointed out, almost all those 10 million users signed up in the very first few months. They were not mandated. These are the enthusiasts. They were running out to get the shot. Right. So she says to the CDC, help me. Well, those health check-ins continue every day for seven days, then every week for five more weeks.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And then at three, six, nine, excuse me, three, six, and 12 months. There's another check-in. Well, here, she also provided her checking at. six months. Well, six months later, did the CDC routed out to help her? No, here's what she writes. She says she's had a hundred plus days of speech, physical therapy and vestibular therapy, and more to come. Still no help from SISA. That's the FCDC to help people, after six months of trying. Still no response. And by the way, Siss was run by Dr. Catherine Edwards, who you talked about in the past. Still no response from the CDC, no help from public help,
Starting point is 00:14:07 No help from FDA. She's saying, look, nobody's helping me. And in fact, you know, further up in the same report, she lists a whole host of conditions where she explains that she's on full disability. She can't drive. She can't walk. So she has platelet activation, vascular inflammation and cephalopathy. Still full disability, full disability, not medically cleared to drive.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Negative nucleocapsid test. six months of testing confirming no underlying health condition. I mean, like she's saying, my life is a disaster here. What's amazing is this is the CDC system. This is their system. And she's not one. There's, and obviously she's already has several fields. We're not saying seven million people rode in, but there's seven million fields.
Starting point is 00:14:57 She's making them about four or five of those. But she's not alone. And yet we've heard all along the CDC FDA saying, we have had no complaints really. We see no evidence or red flags that there's any problems with these vaccines at all. I mean, if this woman was all alone, maybe you just ignore her, but seven million of these fields. All right, so let's get to the punchline. You know, this is not the same case now.
Starting point is 00:15:21 You had to bring a separate case now because they refused to give ICA and the work that we were doing these open text fields. So you and your law firm brought that case. And how's that going? Well, I'm very pleased to report that a federal judge in an incredible 29-page decision has now issued an order requiring the CDC to make every single one of those 7.8 million free text entries available to the public over the next 12 months. Every month they have to produce a few hundred thousand of them. There's a schedule on the last page of the order. And, you know, this is a huge win for transparency. It'll be an incredible opportunity to actually see what was being told to the CDC by the public
Starting point is 00:16:19 and those who are probably the last people who want to say things, the bad things of these vaccines. These folks who went out to get the vaccines, I always find it, I always find it comical when people say, well, you know, those people who complain about vaccine injuries, they're, you know, They just have issues with vaccines. They're always anti-vaxers. No. Yeah. They're not because you know what the people of issues of vaccines do? They don't get vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Right, right. These are people at the front of the line. They don't get the vaccine. Look, I don't want to make light of it because I know we're about to start reading some really horrific stories. And I remember when we were talking about this, the CDC was pushing back. They were trying to say things like, well, you shouldn't have to. You can't read all of those fields.
Starting point is 00:16:59 We're going to categorize them. We'll just categorize them and give them a code. and put the different things, and they didn't want to let us read the writing. So you ended up getting around that. They didn't get to code this and say, well, there was like, you know, about 500 that were about some sort of chest pains. And I know that you wanted to fight for this thing. No, I want to read exactly how they described their chest pains.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Did they have EKGs? All the things written in the field. We read English. That's what we do. This is going to be written in English. And by the way, all of the names and one of the questions they had, well, they would say, well, privacy, all of the names have been scrubbed from this data, correct? This is just open fields.
Starting point is 00:17:34 We don't know who these people are. There's no way to know who we're talking about. Is that correct? So the V-Safe system is designed to make it effectively. You know, the data that we got in the check-the-box was de-identified. You can't figure out who the person is. And so only additional data that we want did was the free text fields. Now, it is possible that somebody chose to put in, let's say, their name or their Social Security number.
Starting point is 00:18:02 But as the judge pointed out in the decision, one, there are programs that can scrub for that type of information very effectively and do a quick initial pass and scan for social security numbers for names with that kind of information. Second, reviewing this type of data to redact for information is something that happens all the time in litigation. At the end of the day, when you take those 7.8 million free text entries, they were limited for the most part to 250,000. characters. So, you know, we did a lot of math in our, in the lawsuit in which we explained, okay, let's convert that. How many pages is that equal? Let's assume an average free text entry was 50 characters. Well, then it's, we're talking like 100 something thousand pages. Right. That's it. If everybody filled out the full 250 characters, so maybe you have 500,000 to 600,000 to 600,000 pages, that is not too burdensome. For a product, remember, that our public
Starting point is 00:19:00 health authorities mandated we get, gave the company's immediate liability, took away our rights, kicked us out of schools, took billions of our dollars to give to the pharmaceutical companies to develop. I mean, it's incredible. If there's anything that there should be transparency for, it's this product. This judge had it exactly rights. I mean, Judge Kesmerich, I mean, if anybody wants to read the decision, I encourage them to do so. I think we have an excerpt right from this case, just a statement by the judge. Notably, plaintiff points to several studies published and presented by CDC that rely upon on the V-Safe data. All but one of these studies considered only the first seven days after receiving a vaccine,
Starting point is 00:19:41 and the only study that looked beyond the first week considered just two weeks. Defendants do not contest this at 10. Rather, defendants dismissed the limited scope of the published studies as just the time period that some scientists have chosen to use in their research studies. I mean, this is amazing, right? What the judge is saying, are you telling me that the CDC is all this data and the only thing you've looked at is the first two weeks when the entire question with an emergency use authorization is what about the long-term side effects? What about two years down a row? What about six months?
Starting point is 00:20:13 What about all these issues of blood clotting we're seeing? And they only look two weeks. This judge, I mean, anybody with blood moving their brain would have to be saying, oh, my God, this is insane. One of the things we pointed out to the judge was, look, Your Honor, we said, listen, here's, here's. Here's an example of why it's so important for the free text field to be made public. And what we pointed out to the judge is that the CDC and other authors using the VSAFE data published over 40 studies using the VSAFE check the box data. And in every one of those studies, except for one where they looked at,
Starting point is 00:20:49 they reported the rate of medical care seeking for two weeks after the shot, they reported the rate of medical care seeking for only one week after the shot. And that rate they kept saying was 0.9%, 1%, whatever. As you showed earlier at the beginning of this segment, when we finally got that data, after a year, two lawsuits. So people understand, other than the checkbox, it asked those questions that we said in the earlier piece, which is, did you miss school?
Starting point is 00:21:16 Could you go to work? Did you have to seek medical care? That was a checkbox also. And that showed us, we looked further down the road than anyone the CDC did. And that's where we showed that 7.7.7. of these people said I needed medical care, which is an insane number for a medical product. And I just want to say to people that are maybe watching this show for the first time, and I know it's going to be, this show is going to blow your mind because you're saying to
Starting point is 00:21:42 yourself, the CDC cares about my health. They do thorough studies of vaccinations. All the vaccines ever given to my kids have been thoroughly tested. Well, now you're looking at the most rushed vaccine you've ever witnessed with your own eyes. They're telling you we looked at everything. and I'm telling you this, you now know, a judge just saw, they only look two weeks down the road.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Beyond two weeks, if you open those gates and you push your way into the CDC campus, what would you see would be hundreds and hundreds of scientists where their heads stuck in the ground and their ass is sticking up with you, not looking at anything. That's how the CDC works, and if you keep watching this show, it's going to scare the hell out of you. Well, I know, Erin, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:22:24 You don't have to talk like I do. I'm going to say it. I don't have to appear in a corporate. I'll say this. I'll say this. If that one, when they publish those 40 studies, what makes it so incredibly concerning is that those are the same 40 or so studies that the CDC points to to say COVID vaccine is safe. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:22:49 They're safe. But one of the main data points they use, they use theirs for the most part and V-safe. Well, they say V-SAFE, and they only use the first week. And when we pointed this out to the judge, here's what the judge wrote, okay? And it's really great if I can read it. He said, because the CDC came back in their papers and they said, well, some scientists chose to do a week, but, you know, that's what they chose to do. And the judge picked up on that, and, you know, we responded to that. And the judge wrote, quote, if quote unquote, some scientists sponsored by, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:25 by platform by defendants, by the way, many of them were CDC scientists, okay? Right. Have chosen to use, quoting the CDC's words from their papers, only the first week or two of data to report the vaccine is safe and effective, then other scientists should be permitted to access the data to quote, pierce the veil of administrative secrecy. Now he's quoting the language for why the FOIA exists, open agency action to the light of public scrutiny, and promote the disclosure of information. Many of the policies previously addressed were enacted because of guidance from defendants,
Starting point is 00:23:59 and the judge there means the policies regarding mandates and immunity liability and so forth. The judge continues. With billions of taxpayer dollars expended to develop, distribute, administer, and fund messaging campaigns, plaintiffs assumes a hefty and viable public interest in examining the raw clinical data. Production of the free text data will permit independent research, to put the government agencies to their proof by considering all of the available data. So the judge, through the analogy we hope, which is in the same way, with the check the box, you only want to report one week, and that was misleading.
Starting point is 00:24:39 What are you trying to hide with the free text data? And, you know, if I could draw a comparison to what really the CDC was arguing here, They said to this judge, it would take about 150,000 working hours to review this 7.8 million free text fields. If you divide by 2,000 hours a year working, so for one person to review this at the CDC, and they say they don't have 13 analysts, so they can devote one maybe, I don't know. That would take 75 years. That's an interesting number. Doesn't have been a back to what the FDA tried to do.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah. Aaron, amazing. You've won the case now just so people know, we're only, we have not, you know, received, you haven't received any of this data yet, but we will be posting it on our website as it comes in for people to analyze. This is what we do, making it available. Just go to Icanacide.org forward slash vSafe, and you can access now. Right now, it has our dashboard. But as this data starts pouring in to Aaron's law firm, we will be posting it there. And so all of those scientists out there in the world, I know Naomi Walsh, got a huge group of people that are looking into this data as we put it out.
Starting point is 00:25:59 People like that, we're making it available to you so that it's easy to find. Really incredible win, Aaron. I think this is going to, I think this is going to be the death blow to this cover up. It is clear that they've been hiding something. And now the world is about to see what people wrote in after they were getting the vaccine. This may change this whole conversation forever. as I said, this is going to be a really, really interesting year. Before I let you go, another legal victory, right? You were able to sort of run down the hot lots. This is a conversation
Starting point is 00:26:31 a lot of people watching the highway have asked about are some of the vaccines, you know, lots worse than others. Well, we saw high rates of injury with certain lot numbers, but there's no way to know if it was a hot lot because we don't know how many of that lot there were. So you don't know, is it? one in a hundred the injuries or one in a thousand, we had to know how big was the lot, right? That was the big issue. So tell me about this legal win. Sure. So when the, you know, when a vaccine is distributed, it's distributed in what they call various lots. So it's, you know, Pfizer's COVID vaccine has lots and lots of different lots. It's just a different number assigned to different
Starting point is 00:27:08 batches as they roll over the production line. While they take those lots, they distribute them around the country, they actually kind of randomized where they send them. And then people will then report to VERS, as we know, when there's potential issue. And they report as well, often, not always the lot number. And so sometimes when, so some folks who are looking at the VERS data said, whoa, wait a second. This lot has like way more reports of death than other lots. And so they said, well, maybe this lot has a problem. Maybe there was a contamination, you know, as we're going to release very soon and ICAN is going to soon release a legal update. in which we actually have uncovered serious contamination issues, for example, at a
Starting point is 00:27:52 Moderna facility in any event. When you look at that VAIR's report, reported numbers of number of, you know, of a lot with lots of deaths. The problem is you need to know how many doses of that lot went out. Maybe that lot had 10 times the number of doses that were distributed versus other lots. So it's not surprising that they had 10 times a number of deaths. If they had the same number of dose distributed, then you can draw an inference that maybe there was more of an issue with that lot. So there's been lots of reporting over the last year about maybe this lot's hot,
Starting point is 00:28:32 maybe that's hot and I know ICANN has gotten a lot of requests to get the data of how many lots distributed in the United States. I mean, we got people want to know. We got to have this answer, right? So it took, you know, so we had a lawsuit, we had a number of appeals. And it's been a long road, but we have finally now received from the federal health agencies the number of lots of doses, excuse me, distributed by lot. We got it for the Pfizer-COVID vaccine, the Moderna COVID vaccine, as well as the J&J COVID vaccine. And ICANN is, I understand, is not doing the analysis itself, I understand, but it's choosing to
Starting point is 00:29:11 release to the public that data and letting others out there conduct the analysis. So open Vairs, I know, did an analysis of this data and has identified what it believes to be a number of hot lots. I will tell you, you know, from our quick review of it, you know, over here and at ICANN, there's one of the things I think that stood out is that there's so many lots that appear to be, so to speak, hot. Right. Which makes one, makes one conclude, you know, when you got, when so many lots are hot, and maybe the product's just hot, I don't know. Right. Right. Right. Hot product. Aaron, thank you for your incredible work. It's still bringing in victories over the holiday when everyone else is resting.
Starting point is 00:29:52 You've just been delivering for us all these years working with you. It's just a powerful part of what we're doing here with the Highwire and our nonprofit, the Informant Consent Action Network. We couldn't do it without you. So many people I know are thankful for this work. And now scientists around the world are going to be getting real science in their hands. real data that they can start crunching so all of us in the world can actually know what happened here. So keep up the great work. I think 2024 is going to be amazing. We're going to be seeing these open
Starting point is 00:30:25 fields, you know, pouring in. That is going to be a fascinating read. So I'm going to let you get back to it. Thank you so much for joining us today, Aaron. Thank you, Del. All right. Take care. Now look, you know, it's the beginning of the year. So many of you helped us, you know, hit, hit our goals of fundraising at the end of last year, but as you can tell, you have regulatory agencies that are knowingly lying to you. They are putting you at risk. They're putting your grandparents at risk. You're putting your family members at risk. They are lying to us. They're not doing proper science. Who's going to make them do that science? Do you think they're going to think they're going to get away with this again when they know that, wow, my God, I can won all the
Starting point is 00:31:03 lawsuits and everything we tried to hide? They ended up getting to it. We are changing the world because you're making that possible. getting the science done that they thought they could hide from the world. We have so much work to do. We have so many more lawsuits to bring because it's not over. We have got to get to the bottom of this. And by the way, I think there's people that know need to go to jail. We're going to find out who is behind this cover up. We're going to put them on the stand. This is my goal. It's my dream. I'm crazy about it. I'm not going to be happy until I see Tony Fauci walking into prison in handcuffs. So if you want to help me do that, we could really use your help.
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Starting point is 00:32:46 And by the way, behind all of this, all of this pandemic, you know, once we talked to Matthias Desmond and talked about the, you know, the psychology of totalitarianism, well, now I think this entire conversation, even though I thought, wow, that fulfills a lot of my thoughts. I just read a book that is going to blow your mind. I am not kidding. This takes it to a whole other level. I'm talking about the indoctrinated brain,
Starting point is 00:33:13 and Dr. Michael Nels is joining me in just a few minutes to talk about the incredible discoveries he has here. Is there a button that you could actually push in someone's brain that makes it easy to indoctrinate them? And if you have that button, do you know how to protect it? You're not going to miss that interview coming up in just a few moments. But first, it's time for the Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey Jackson.
Starting point is 00:33:46 How was your holiday? It was amazing. It was absolutely amazing. Got a little time off, but like Aaron, I had my nose to the grindstone researching and I can't wait to report on what I have for you today. All right. Fantastic. Let's get to it. All right. So here we are. 24, like you said, a new year. And for our new audience members, we have a lot of them. We have been in our forensically reporting on the COVID vaccine rollout at every step. We knew it was going to cause harm, but what kind of harm? How many people? And there's one metric, Dell, that you called almost two years ago now that we knew they couldn't hide. Here's that clip from 2022.
Starting point is 00:34:27 All right. People say, Dell, they're going to try and hide it. Hide what? You might be able to hide COVID deaths. You might be able to sort of manipulate the COVID deaths and take people that are having heart attacks and put them in the COVID category. You might be able to hide the actual, you know, COVID vaccine rates and who was truly vaccinated. Were they fully vaccinated, were they boosted, did they only have one shot, was there only 14 days after the second shot? They're manipulating all of that.
Starting point is 00:34:50 But one thing you cannot manipulate is the all-cause mortality, just meaning if there's a rise in just death across the board in every nation, that is going to be really hard to hide. Now, one after the other, we've been seeing country after country posting not, it was basically called excess deaths now. That's what they're calling it. And there's this phenomenon. There's this alarming anomaly. Meaning the all-cause mortality that is over the norm, above the norm, all the deaths, all the categories, but more people are dying than they were, say, five years ago or the average that we were used to. All right. Absolutely, absolutely. And they were supposed to not do that because we had a vaccine. And now this conversation is mainstream media. It's the topic of is the elephant in the room. Everyone's reporting on it. Here's just Fox News recently. Listen to this. All right. The Hill writes the following. This is bigger than COVID. Why are so many Americans, dying early. It goes on to say life insurers have been consistently sounding the alarm over
Starting point is 00:35:49 these unexpected or excess deaths, which claimed 158,000 more Americans in the first nine months of 2023 than in the same period 2019. That exceeds America's combined losses from every war since Vietnam. Mortality up 26 percent, Dr. Mark, among 35 to 44-year-olds, up 19 percent among 25 to 34-year-olds. What in the world is going on? Really. Those are really scary numbers. And just to give it some context for somebody that may be seeing this for the first time, a lot of this was coming from insurance models.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Like how much is insurance paying out for death? And they were saying some of the rises were as high as 40%. And I remember one of the guys that came forward first, he said, you know, we called a three sigma event when there's a 10% rise in death. Three sigma meaning a once in a 200. year catastrophic event, a once in a 200 year earthquake or 200 year, you know, tsunami. And these numbers are even above that. I mean, off the charts is what we're talking about. That number is incredible. 158,000 deaths just in 2023 above the normal. And when you think, I think Vietnam,
Starting point is 00:37:05 what do we say? There's about 65,000 people in all the years of Vietnam that died there. And it's like, No one's barely anyone's talking about. It's really incredible. And think about the protests that happened during Vietnam to end that war because of the deaths. And this is why this conversation about excess depth is on everybody's, everybody's radar. Everyone's talking about it from Joe Rogan to Mark Siegel, Fox News, CNN. And so let's look at some more numbers. Let's keep diving into this here because this is the topic of the day.
Starting point is 00:37:32 So let's look at the most populous state in the United States, California. Here's an article of a Daily Skeptic just recently this month. Why are so many Californians dying? And it says COVID has claimed about 105,000 lives in California since 2020. In that same time period, 82,000 more Californians died from everything else than is typical. Adjusted for the decline in population, that non-COVID excess death figure becomes even more concerning, as the state has seen its population drop to about the same as it was in 2015. I mean, just amazing conversation on this.
Starting point is 00:38:07 But it gets, it's the same story anywhere you look. In the UK, we have medical journals, top medical journals like The Lancet, now forced to report on this. Here's an article or a study out of the Lancet. Excess mortality in England post-COVID19 pandemic. And it goes on to say this model finds that in the period week ending 3rd June 2020 to 30th June 2023 is over a year there, excess deaths for all causes were relatively greatest for 50 to 64-year-olds, 15% higher than it.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Remember, 10% is a 3 sigma. So this is, you know, far and above that. All right, go on. Any country you're looking at, you're finding almost the same thing. And it says compared with 11% higher for 25 to 49 and less than 25-year-olds and about 9% higher for over 65-year-old groups. But then it goes on to say the age standardized CMI found similar patterns with the largest relative excess deaths for 20, 22 observed in young 20 to 44 years and middle age 45 to 64 years adults.
Starting point is 00:39:15 So that's really when the insurance company is kicked in like you said a couple of years ago. They said, wait a minute. These are young working age people that are dropping dead. Why is this happening? We've never seen anything like this before. And you know, the media, they'll say, or the government's looking at this, they'll say, don't worry, these are just backed up cancer screenings from the lock These are just people maybe not taking their statins.
Starting point is 00:39:39 But we actually have a professor of oncology. Angus Douglas from St. George's Medical School in London. He had a recent interview. He talked about this and put a really fine point on it. Take a listen. All right. I'm looking at excess deaths during the pandemic. But equally before that, I mean, clearly the rate of death in Britain
Starting point is 00:40:01 will grow with an aging population. Yes, it will. But these figures are meant to, be adjusted for that. It meant to be adjusted for that and age justice as well. And I mean, I've seen the very raw figures and they are quite worrying because there's excess deaths of the younger people going on, not just in the older population, but in the people under 40, and the real peaks between 40 and 64, 65. Now, this is something that is highly unusual and highly alarming. It was initially dismissed as due to people not getting statins.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Chris Witty said this, which I thought was really quite alarming, because you don't get offered statins still here over 55, 60, so it can't possibly be involved with that group. Now, the one major thing we said, there's lockdown, the effect of lockdown and everything it did, this would go on to excess tests, cancer and various other things. Because of misdiagnosis. There's misdiagnosis, mistreatments, everything. But there's something far worse than this. Now, when you actually look at these figures that we have, they're the same in a
Starting point is 00:41:07 in Europe, in Australia, in other places too. And one of the things that I flagged up and nobody's taken any real notice of and it's even more pertinent now is that others have pointed out this excess death started and correlates with the vaccine program. So it doesn't mean to say it's associated,
Starting point is 00:41:26 but why hasn't it been looked at? Why hasn't it been really, really suddenly looked at? And it hasn't because myself and other colleagues have raised this ad nauseum and we get absolutely nothing but to say it's all expected. This would be like, you know, you have a family dinner, and the next morning there's this line to the bathroom. It's coming out of all ends of grandpa in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:41:52 People are finding every bathroom. They're going to the neighbors. They can't even make it out in the yard. It's like bridesmaids all over again. And the one thing no one's going to look at is, what did we eat last night? We're not going to look at that. I mean, this is what's happening.
Starting point is 00:42:04 You have a moment where this whole thing starts. which is at the vaccine program, and no one at the CDC, no one at the FDA, no one at any regulatory agency in the world is going to look at vaccines. Now, that's the one place we know it's not happening. This is insane. I mean, we're talking about a tidal wave is slamming into every nation in the world and killing people at rates we've never seen before. And nobody wants to talk about what did we do differently that could have caused this?
Starting point is 00:42:34 And the fact that no one's asking these questions, it really points to a clear cover-up going on. How deep is it go? Where does it go? We don't know. But the fact that they won't even bring that into the conversation. And one of the key people- It tells you that they know damn well what it is. That's what it says to me. If you didn't think it really had anything to do with it, it'd be the first thing you'd look at it or maybe the fifth thing. You wouldn't avoid it all together unless you're like, oh my God, don't open that door. Boy, I've got to let it in you today. One of the key people running kind of the cover up on conversations that aren't supposed to be had in public is Dr. Anthony Fauci. And as we talked about over these last three, four weeks, he was going to be and now has been behind a closed door testimony for the select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And there's no transcripts that have come out from this. There's no videos that have come out from this. But we do have headlines. We do have some quotes. And here's one of the headlines. Fauci said he did not recall specific. on COVID origins, pandemic policies over 100 times in closed door testimony. But then we go to the select subcommittee's Twitter page or X page, and here's some of the
Starting point is 00:43:43 posts that they posted. Here's one of them. Dr. Fauci claim that the six feet apart social distancing recommendation promoted by federal health officials was likely not based on any data. He says it just sort of appeared. But then it gets even worse. Remember we questioned the lab leak, we lost our channel on YouTube? Well, this is Dr. Fauci acknowledged that the lab leak hypothesis is not a conspiracy theory. And the Twitter post goes on there for right, this comes nearly four years after promoting the publication of the now infamous proximal origin paper that attempted to vilify and disprove the lab leak hypothesis. So there it is. Anthony Fauci himself is saying it's no longer a conspiracy, although he was one of the
Starting point is 00:44:24 architects in that paper. If I remember correctly, isn't there a scene in the godfather? I want to say the Godfather where one of the mob guys is probably going to, you know, turn over, but that ends up going on the stand. It just says, I do not recall. I do not recall. Anyway, one of those mob movies, it's exactly what he did, right? Oh, I do not recall. I don't have any memory of that. Oh, I don't recall. Don't remember. I mean, this is literally what we're dealing with, right? This is a scientist. This is a guy that was dictating the world because of his incredible brain and knowledge on what we should do cannot remember a damn thing he said to us. Unbelievable. Not only a scientist. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:44:59 The science by his own words. So this is something else, though. He appears to still be defending the lockdowns, though. This is a headline out of New York Post. Fauci tells House COVID panel he's not convinced kids suffered learning loss due to the pandemic school closures. Let's talk about that for a second because this loops into the conversation about excess deaths with the vaccine, but we also have these lockdowns. Yeah. And remember in 2022, the same year you said, look out for these excess deaths.
Starting point is 00:45:24 The director general of the UN came out and made this statement. This was the headline. 50 million will be severely hungry this year, says Deputy Secretary General of the UN. Now he's talking about because of COVID. Just COVID, not really describing what parts of COVID may have caused that. But now we have the first organization, an independent think tank that has come forward and blamed the lockdowns for this. Before we've had single scientists, a scientific paper here and there. But we have the Royal United Services Institute.
Starting point is 00:45:56 This is an independent think tank that's almost 200 years old. And they put out this article, are COVID lockdowns behind the rise in extreme poverty in the global south? That's Africa. And he says the evidence clearly suggests that COVID lockdown policies have shaped the rise of poverty since 2020, particularly in the global south. And it goes on to say poverty drives political instability
Starting point is 00:46:18 and socioeconomic distress. This is not a novel conclusion. But the socioeconomic consequences of pandemic policies were not sufficiently calibrated by policymakers. They have driven ruinous increases in poverty and insecurity all around the world. This must be a factor in future pandemic policymaking and in the current debate on new international health regulations by being led by the WHO.
Starting point is 00:46:41 So they're saying they're not sufficiently calibrated, almost like the policymakers were in some type of bubble and they didn't really understand what their policies were doing in the real world. Well, here is... But don't worry, we want to pass a treaty. so the same boneheads that mess this whole thing up, get to control the entire world, and remove anybody with a critical thought
Starting point is 00:47:02 from having any options. Yeah, and so this has been an interesting week because we had Fauci coming forward admitting some of the stuff that he is really defended in the past. Now he's flip-flopping on that. But we have former NIH director, Dr. Francis Collins. Remember, this guy was kind of the happy-go-lucky, you know, older hippie that was playing guitar.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Well, this is him during a recent talk, some of his failures. Take a listen. As a guy living inside the Beltway, feeling a sense of crisis, trying to decide what to do in some situation room in the White House with people who had data that was incomplete, we weren't really thinking about what that would mean to Wilk and his family in Minnesota a thousand miles away from where the virus was hitting so hard. We weren't really considering the consequences in communities that were not New York City or some other big city.
Starting point is 00:47:56 The public health people, we talked about this earlier, and this is really important point, if you're a public health person and you're trying to make a decision, you have this very narrow view of what the right decision is, and that is something that will save a life. Doesn't matter what else happens.
Starting point is 00:48:14 So you attach infinite value to stopping the disease and saving a life. You attach a zero value to whether this actually totally disrupts people's lives, ruins the economy, and has many kids kept out of school in a way that they never quite require from. Collateral damage. So there you, yeah, collateral damage.
Starting point is 00:48:34 This is a public health mindset. And I think a lot of us involved in trying to make those recommendations had that mindset. And that was really unfortunate. That's another mistake we made. Okay. Not sure what's going on there. I mean, I know this guy considers himself a big Christian. Maybe he's realizing his days are getting close.
Starting point is 00:48:53 to have an answer for what he's done. But he acts like, oh, we just didn't know better. Yeah. And, you know, he frames this in, well, that was a public health mindset. I would argue that was an authoritarian mindset because in October of 2020, Dr. Francis Collins penned this exact email to Dr. Fauci and Clifford Lane. This was it right here talking about the Great Barrington Declaration. It was like thousands of public health officials.
Starting point is 00:49:23 and scientists saying this is the wrong approach. You're going to get people killed. Starvation will run rampant. The cure will be worse than the disease. There is 939,000 signatures. They came forward with that. And did Francis Collins say, you know what? Maybe we are in a thought bubble. Come on to the table. Let's have a conversation. No. Show us the email. Absolutely not. He says this. The Great Bering Declaration, this proposal from three fringe epidemiologists who met with the secretary seems to be getting a lot of attention and even a co-signature from Nobel Prize winner Mike Levin at Stanford. He goes on to say, there needs to be a quick and devastating published takedown of its premises. I don't see anything like that online yet. Is it underway? So he's commanding. Get this thing out of the way. We're in a
Starting point is 00:50:08 bubble. We want to stay in our bubble. And despite the fact that the world in a bubble, like shut this down. That's right. Top epidemiologists, we don't care. And this was actually a historical. historic email because this kicked off the entire what's now being called the censorship industrial complex run by the Department of Homeland Security through CISA. We know that they influenced Twitter, Facebook, YouTube. We had the CIA, the FBI, and they're pulling down post questioning any conversation around the COVID vaccine lockdowns mass that ran counter to what Francis Collins called good public health in the Beltway bubble.
Starting point is 00:50:45 That's what was going on. So let's put a point on that and switch over now to something, to current protests happening across the EU. Now, when you look at the European Union, our current Aredel is really being defined by farm equipment protesting in the streets. We saw in the Netherlands when they started shutting down the farms. We saw all of these tractors and farmers taking to the streets, shutting down Capitol buildings, blocking roadways.
Starting point is 00:51:13 The same thing is happening right now in Germany. German farmers across the nation, they're blocking these roadways. Here's an article we can look at right here. German farmers block roads nationwide as part of week-long protests. Why are they doing this? Because the German government has just announced that the car tax exemption for farm vehicles and the tax breaks on diesel used in agriculture are ending. They're done.
Starting point is 00:51:42 So the government is targeting these farmers. They're taking away their tax breaks. They're the first on the chopping block. And why are they doing this? It makes no sense. Well, this article gives, it kind of shed some light on this. It says, why is Germany's economy struggling and can the government fix it? It says, already widely seen as ineffective.
Starting point is 00:52:00 The government was dealt a further bitter blow late last year when the constitutional court ruled that its 2024 budget broke fiscal rules enshrined in the Constitution, triggering a multi-billion euro budget crisis. It goes on to say the decision meant that the government was unable to divert six, 60 billion euros of borrowing left over from its pandemic emergency fund into a climate and transformation fund intended to fuel Germany's green transition and modernized industry. So Germany is an interesting study here because remember, they are no longer relying on nuclear power. They're shutting down fossil fuel and they had somebody blew up their Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
Starting point is 00:52:39 We did a deep dive on that. Journalist Seymour Hirsch was pointing to American involvement in that. But that gas gave about two-thirds of energy to the German economy. So they are, they're stuck. And they're basically saying we have about 60 billion euros left over from this pandemic fund. We need that to make this green transition. And the constitutional court said, nope, sorry, you can't tap that. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:53:04 So what did the government do? They went right to the farmers. And they said, guess what, guys, you're done. We're cutting out all your taxes. Wow. Wow. And so again, we're seeing. farm equipment all throughout the European Union. This is a big deal, but it's happening here
Starting point is 00:53:19 in the United States too. Well, it's a tack on our food supply, right? You're using energies and attack on the food supply for humanity. Right. And it's, and farmers are looked at as because of the climate change narrative, this race to net zero, farmers and their fertilizers and their, the methane, the farting cows, they're seen as something that's no longer needed for the environment. So this This is an, for a government with that mindset, this is an easy chopping block. Just get them.
Starting point is 00:53:47 They're done. Just shut them down. So under this climate change narrative, we're seeing also micromanagement here in the United States. So under President Biden in 2024 here, we're seeing new rules put out by the Department of Energy. Here's the headline, Biden administration unveils string of eco-regulations and latest appliance crackdown targeting fridges and freezers. So remember, it was just stoves just a couple of months ago.
Starting point is 00:54:10 People were up in arms about that. Now we have residential refrigerators and free of the way, I like to cook and if I get forced to use an electric range, I may just go postal. That could push me over the edge. And so we're talking about California, remember California said that they're going to be phasing out gasoline vehicles and be completely done with them by 2035. Well, that's not just an anomaly. So now we have a headline here. These nine states are banning the sale of gas power cars. So they're following California.
Starting point is 00:54:41 It says the state's advanced clean cars to rule requires zero emission vehicles to represent 35% of new, 35% of new cars and light trucks in lots by 2026. Wow. And then 68% by 2030 before reaching 100% in 2035. Now it goes on to say 17 states, remember as California goes, the rest of the country goes, but it says 17 states have historically followed California's regulations. But so far only Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, and Washington have announced.
Starting point is 00:55:10 they'll enforce the advanced clean cars to rule and prohibit the sale of new gasoline-powered vehicles. So that is moving along pretty fast here. And so just last month. At the same time, we've reported these automobile injuries are losing their shirts on electric cars because people just are not buying them at the level that they want them to. And there's a lot of questions about, you know, when we're thinking about the earth, by the way, how many of these, you know, rare minerals that are, you know, the coal ball and the lithium and the things that make up these cars
Starting point is 00:55:40 and these horrible pit mines everywhere cutting the tops of mountains off. Is that really the answer? Right. And just before I went on air here, I saw that Hertz is basically getting rid of 20,000 of their electric vehicles because they're not reliable. So these things are not proven technology yet.
Starting point is 00:55:58 So just last month, we had COP 28. This is the United Nations Climate Change Conference. And coming out of that conference was this headline. The world just made it clear that, the fossil fuel era is ending. Now for our viewers, the basics on that fossil fuels, coal, petroleum, natural gas. And so it looks like looking at that headline, the world's going to be done with fossil fuels. Well, some people in the world may have not gotten that memo, and one of them is Asia.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Here's the headline out of Reuters. Asian thermal coal imports hit record, but supply keeps prices muted. And this is thermal coals for energy and heating. It goes on to say, in the first 11 months of the year, of last year, China, the world's biggest coal producer, consumer, and importer, saw production rise by 2.9% to 4.24 billion tons. So they are going full steam ahead with this. Another country doing the same thing is India.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Their industry is expanding. And so this headline just came out of the economic times of India. India plans to double its coal production, but ignores climate threat. It says to meet growing demand, the Indian government said on December 11th, it expects to roughly double coal production, reaching 1.5 billion tons by 2030.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Later, the power minister, Raj Kumar Singh, set out plans on December 22nd to add 88 gigawatts of thermal power plants by 2032, the vast majority of which will burn coal. It almost seems like they didn't get the memo. They didn't get the consensus. No, it sounds like they see supply and demand. And as the supplies disappearing here in America, there is demand. The energy need is not going away. And this is where I really sort of started seeing things in a different way.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I've said it before. I was, you know, traveling the country, talking about the vaccine issue, and I met with a senator in West Virginia. And I remember he came into the office, nice guy. And I saw the pictures on the wall and said, oh, you used to be a coal miner. He said, no, I still am a coal miner. In fact, I was just in the mines this morning. And I realized, you know, these state senators, they still have to have another job. But as he talked about, you know, how the mines had been shut down in the destruction of West Virginia, I just kept thinking, I know the energy is going up in China. they're doing it somewhere else. So we're not actually fixing our climate issue. We're just
Starting point is 00:58:11 outsourcing the work. We're losing the jobs, but we still need the energy. And that's where I started thinking, man, we have got to get smarter. There's got to be better ways to do these things. And, you know, we're just destroying our economy. We're destroying the power of our nation. And he talked about how much these guys and women in the mind, how much they love their work and the pride they take in doing that work. It's, you know, it really was a shift for me. in this conversation because if you're brand new to this show, I'll say it again. I grew up in Boulder, Colorado. I'm still an environmentalist. I want clean air, clean water, clean food, all of those things, but I'm not into using slavery to achieve those things. And I'm not going to bow down to some golden
Starting point is 00:58:54 god of global warming. I think that there's other issues at foot. And, you know, I think there's a lot of questions that we keep bringing up. I think you're probably going to ask another one here in just a second. Yeah, and the idea of cleaning up pollution from the environment from large polluters like corporations is a completely separate conversation than what's driving climate change. And so we talk about fossil fuels. If this COP 28, this United Nations Climate Conference got its way, we can end fossil fuels tomorrow. What would that look like?
Starting point is 00:59:24 Well, Dr. Patrick Moore, he's the co-founder of Greenpeace, he put a pretty fine point on this years ago talking about that. Take a listen. There's a lot of talk now in the United States about this great. Green New Deal. I don't know if you've had an opportunity to look at that, but what are your thoughts? Is this a good idea? Are we in trouble? Or what's the plan? Well, it's a recipe for mass suicide. It's just quite amazing that someone that is in government actually elected to the government of the United States of America would propose that we eliminate
Starting point is 00:59:55 all fossil fuels in 12 years. This would basically result, if we did it on a global level, It would result in the decimation of the human population from seven odd billion down to who knows how few people. I mean, it would basically begin a process of cannibalization amongst the human species because the food could not be delivered to the stores in the middle of the cities anymore. How would this, even just that one point? The point that bothers me the most is if you eliminated fossil fuels, every tree in the world would be cut for fuel.
Starting point is 01:00:31 There's no other source of heating and cooking once you eliminate fossil fuels. You can use animal dung if there were any animals left, but the animals would all die too because, well, first off, they would all get eaten and any that survived would have to go wild because there'd be nobody left to look after them. I mean, it's the most ridiculous scenario I've ever heard. People recognize when something is preposterous, and I think that's the best word for it. The best word for it is actually mass suicidal, but why would anyone vote for something
Starting point is 01:01:05 that was gonna result in the death of nearly all humans on Earth? Good question. Yeah, and as we talked about in the segments we've done in the past, about the caring capacity of the Earth, the Club of Rome, overpopulation, it starts to paint a different picture,
Starting point is 01:01:21 but what we do know is when things start being measured, then they can be curtailed. And so we talk about the gas stove, the refrigerators, farming methods, nitrogen fertilizer. But what about the air you breathe? Well, they're starting to measure that now, too. This is a study in PLOS 1.
Starting point is 01:01:38 And it's titled measurements of methane and nitrous oxide and human breath and the development of UK scales emissions. Jesus. Goes on to say this. No, exhaled human breath can contain small, elevated concentrations of methane and nitrous oxide. Remember, methane, the cows were putting out, and they said, we have to get rid of the cows. It says both of which contribute to global warming.
Starting point is 01:01:59 These emissions from humans are not well understood and are rarely quantified in global greenhouse gas inventories. So let's get those quantified. I mean, I have questions. Like, who does a study like this? Either you're an alien or you're an idiot. I mean, you just, you hate humanity. I want to start measuring what catastrophic, you know, effect my own breath has on the planet because I think my day should be numbered. I think it's time to, you know, move on to something else than the human population.
Starting point is 01:02:29 population. It's bonkers. Fortunately, there's people out there pointing this out reflexively, almost immediately. This article here just breaks it down piece by piece. It's titled The Absurdity of Measuring Breath for Climate Change. But let's talk about something a little different here, because there's a scientific consensus we're told climate change is your fault. It's your breath. It's the cows. It's the farms. But there's a lot of scientists that are not in this conversation because they're not part of the consensus. But there's a lot of science and there's a lot of research in other
Starting point is 01:03:04 areas that have to do with what is causing and driving climate change on this planet. One of them happens to be that thermonuclear fission ball of magnetic goodness in the sky, the sun that's right above our heads and there it is right there. And it's shooting out a solar flare. And you can see how massive, massive this is. These solar flares are gigantic. I mean, several hundred, thousand times larger than the Earth itself. You could actually see the Earth there superimposed on what a solar flare. I mean, these solar flare, these coronal mass ejections, they're gigantic. In fact, this is an entire field of study, and it's been going on for a very long time.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Noah actually has a space weather prediction center, and you can see this graph taken from there. The sun goes through solar cycles. Right now, we're in solar cycle 25. We're at the peak of solar cycle 25. What happens at the peak? Well, we have a lot more solar activity. And so this is the headlines. These are mainstream headlines you can see here on December 15th. The biggest solar flare since 2017, just launched off the sun. And then on the first of January, 2024, it agreed us into the new year. Strongest solar flare since 2017 detected. Here's what to know. And those solar flares do have an
Starting point is 01:04:15 impact on the climate here. In fact, in 1997, before, you know, the scientific consensus we were told, This is the New York Times reporting on this, just an everyday report. Another possible climate culprit, the sun. So this is regular reporting here. And my wife writes and it's trying to there. There's hope. There's hope. There's still enough of us still holding it together.
Starting point is 01:04:43 My wife writes and tracks some of these solar changes. She was excited to see I was doing a report on this this week. And she directed me to the work of Dr. Brian Tinsley. Dr. Tinsley is the University of Texas. He's been studying this for over 60 years. He's an atmospheric physicist, and he wrote a paper. He's written many papers. One of them is here, solar influence on climate during the past millennia.
Starting point is 01:05:05 So he talks about something called solar forcing, and these are the variations in solar activity and how they play a significant role in forcing climate change. So basically there's a whole field of study claiming that our climate system on Earth is very sensitive to who would have thought the sun. Well, you don't have to believe that if you don't want to because we're in cycles of ice ages. Those things do happen on this planet. We have several cycles of ice ages that we've been involved in. And here's a graph right here. You can see several of them over millions of years. And to put a really fine point on this, we have Australian geologist Ian Plumer. He's from Australia, and he was at a CPAC event. And this is what he had to say about it.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Take a listen. We hear about climate scientists, whatever that is. Now, in geology, we have a 250-year track record of arguing about climate. Textbooks are full of it. We've been laboring about climate for a long while, and then there's this sudden new invention of climate science. And I had some of these when I was head of department of the University of Melbourne, and these are embittered, obscure, unemployable,
Starting point is 01:06:19 academics funded by your taxes and those taxes are to fund these people's hobbies. And the end result of that is that they put good people out of work and they cost our nation trillions. So there's one group of people that use models. Another group of people, I mean, this is really simple. We use evidence. And the two are not in accord. And if they're not in accord, you've got to throw out the models, which we've seen time
Starting point is 01:06:52 and time again are incorrect. So we can look back in the past and we can see that we've had six great ice ages. During that ice age, we'll have the ice expand, that's a glaciation, or it will contract, that's an interglossal. We are currently in an interglosial of an ice age that started on a Thursday for 34 million years ago and the ice has come and gone. In our last interglossial, sea level was about seven metres higher. Temperature was about five degrees warmer. So if someone says, oh, this is the hottest day on record, you have to ask since when? If it's the hottest day in the last
Starting point is 01:07:37 120,000 years, then that is a record. But since when? So if we go to the peak of our interglotial which was about 4,000 years ago, it was about 5 degrees warmer. So it's cooler than the hottest temperature on record. If we go to the time of Jesus when it was warm, it's about 4 degrees cooler than then. If we go to the dark ages, go to the Viking Age, we've actually warmed up since then. If we go to the medieval warming, we've cooled down since then. And if we go to the little ice age, we've warmed up since then. So since when? And I know this is going to surprise you, but we've just come out of a little ice age. What do you think temperature's going to do? Fall or rise? It's been rising since the more than 300 years ago. So it is no surprise that if you have cut off times for temperature or for sea level or for hurricanes or whatever, you can spin whatever yarn you want to spin. That guy needs a giant mic to drop at the end of that. That's just incredible.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And it is something that is, you know, I was taking that video in some of the science and what we now know are these cycles to many of my friends and, you know, family members and saying, how do we explain this? Is there really a crisis going on? Or are we injecting ourselves into a known pattern? Part of me thinks that these God complex scientists know we're heating on a natural cycle. and are going to try and see if man can actually stop that natural cycle. That's what I'm starting to wonder if that's what's really going on as they try to tell us we're creating it. I don't know. The whole thing is so bogus. Now, and again, not to say, I want to be able to eat a fish that I catch my son in a river or in the ocean.
Starting point is 01:09:30 I'm into cleaning this up. We all need to work together to do that. But we shouldn't be bowing down to some piece of insanity. That actually doesn't stand up in science. Absolutely, absolutely. We've learned from, I mean, if everyone looked at the COVID response, we learned from the COVID response that scientists playing God and try to micromanage every aspect of our lives is probably not the best idea. And when it comes to climate change, this reaction of the scientific community seems to be on steroids when it's trying to micromanage us.
Starting point is 01:10:01 So I think we really need to pump the brakes on this one and have a really big open conversation and bring everyone to the table, not just the people in the Beltway. Yeah, absolutely. Jeffrey, amazing reporting. Way to start out the year. Really exciting. All things we need to be watching as this year unfolds. We're hearing about the climate change. We're hearing about, you know, carbon credit tracking, all of these ways that they're going to try and take our, you know, autonomy away from us, our independence. Just really looking forward to all the work we're going to do together this year. So welcome back. Absolutely. They're not doing it this year. We'll point out it every bit of the way. All right. I'll see you next week, Jeffrey. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Well, you know, not to rip off an old scab, but I think a lot of us, we all want to just believe that COVID's behind us. Oh, those of us that made it, maybe we didn't get vaccinated. Some questions are, is this thing shedding on me pop up? But we all kind of want to move forward. But the question is, did you survive it? You know, did we actually survive that? What was it really all about? And do we have enough people to make sure that it never happens again?
Starting point is 01:11:11 Why would we try to stop it? And would they try to do it again? What is this? What's really going on here? Well, to get in this conversation and my next guest that is really about to blow your mind, I just want to remind you how insane this experience we all went through together was. A mystery virus in China. The city of Wuhan is racing to contain the potential.
Starting point is 01:11:37 spread of a deadly new strain of coronavirus. Italy has become the worst hit country by the coronavirus after China. There's now more than a thousand deaths and more than 15,000 infections. The government is already talking about that triage situation, having to prioritize how they are going to save the most number of people. We have called every day for countries to take urgent and aggressive action. We'll be suspending all travel from Europe to the United States. The coronavirus is the biggest threat this country has faced for decades.
Starting point is 01:12:23 We're seeing the devastating impact of this invisible killer. If community transmission takes off in New Zealand, our health system will be inundated, and tens of thousands of New Zealanders will die. Hospitals are already running out of beds, mass, supplies, and testing material. The number of hospitalizations here in New York jumped 40%. Field hospitals and testing centers in place, like the Maryland Stadium.
Starting point is 01:12:46 The LA Convention Center would be used as a hospital too. The hospital has 500 beds and is overcapacity. All the patients in this room, all the feet that you see, they all have COVID. It's hard for me to say, but you can actually smell fear.
Starting point is 01:13:01 You smell death. One in seven Americans will likely know someone who has died from this disease, something that we didn't even know five, six months ago. Stay at home. That is the order tonight from four state governors governors as the coronavirus pandemic spread. Experience we're having on the ground throughout the state of California require us to adjust our thinking. Stay at home. Stay home, stay safe. Quite simply, stay at home.
Starting point is 01:13:25 Can all come together while staying at home. Stay home. Stay home. Prepare, focus on the essentials, protect, keep some space from people outside your home, and disinfect a lot. Protect yourself and others from COVID-19. Stay home and help stop the spread of the coronavirus. Across the country, at least 21 million kids now home from school. Worried customers have been snapping up everything in sight. Store shelves nationwide are dwindling or totally empty. Produce gone.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Cleaning products low. Bleach totally bought out. The situation here yesterday was so hectic. Police were called after some customers started fighting over toilet paper and water. A violent confrontation over mask wearing going on social media. This video already viewed hundreds of thousands of times and now the subject of a police investigation. This is in Royal Palm Beach, tempers flaring when one man not wearing a mask pulls a gun. Suspects turns around and watch throws a punch as he was being, he and another were being escorted out the door for not wearing a mask.
Starting point is 01:14:38 More than 46,000. 150,000. 200,000. 400,000 people have now died. 500,000 and 71 Yeah. In every corner front line medical workers in ERs, ICUs, and COVID units who've seen firsthand the pandemic's horrors. The most ambitious vaccination program in history is only just beginning.
Starting point is 01:15:03 More Americans have to roll up their sleeves and face the reality that vaccination is the pathway to that result. Almost everyone who will die from COVID this year will not be up to date on their shots. You'll either get the vaccine or COVID. And I'll tell you which one of those can kill you. Pretty much everyone who's unvaccinated is going to expect to get sick. The hospital says the majority of their COVID-related deaths are among patients who are unvaccinated. It's madness. Get vaccinated.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Unvaccinated guy who gobbled horse goo. Rest in peace, wheezy. When the next pandemic comes, if we do not make the changes that must be made, then who will? We don't know when the next outbreak is going to be. It could be a year from now. It could be 30 years from now, but we still have to be perpetually prepared. This pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset. This moment also gives us a much greater chance to be radical and to do things differently.
Starting point is 01:16:08 To build back better and to build back bolder. We can't just build back to what it was before. We have to build back better. I see the need for action. I see the need for a great reset. Yeah, I was there too. So were you. I just want to remind you as we go into this next conversation
Starting point is 01:16:32 that after all of that insanity, when all the numbers got crunched, this virus had a death rate of approximately 0.35% across the world, a third of 1%. It was just a bad flu. And if you were under the age of 59, you were in the 0.035%. Just want to remind you, 0.0% of 1%. 0 to 19. Did they need a vaccine?
Starting point is 01:16:52 The death rate for them was 0.0027%, 2029. 0.014. You get the idea these were zeros in any math class in the world. This was a manufactured disaster that destroyed our economies, destroyed our lives. And what we've got to ask ourselves is why. It's probably the main question we've been asking. Why?
Starting point is 01:17:16 Why do they do it? And who is the they? Well, I just read a brand new book that is out now, The Indoctrinated Brain. And this blew my mind, where I thought I'd had it all figured out. This nails it to the wall. And I am just honored beyond measured to be joined now by the author, Dr. Michael Nels. Del, thank you.
Starting point is 01:17:39 I'm honored to be on this great show. Thank you very much. It's really great having you. It's hard to even know where to start because there is just, just so many different, you know, points that you're making in here. And what I want to say is you bring up Matthias Desmond in the beginning of this book. And I would say of probably all the interviews I did over the last couple of years, one of my top favorites was we had Matias Desmond here. And of course, he was talking about mass formation. And he said something that really stuck
Starting point is 01:18:13 with me, which is you've got to see the people that have gone along with this as though they've and hypnotized. If someone's hypnotized, they'll cut off their arm if you ask them to do it. And I kept thinking that as I was talking to friends and family around the country over the holidays, and it does almost feel like their eyes are spinning. There's certain trigger words. You say Trump and this trumped arrangement syndrome, all of a sudden the conversation changes and there's no, it's like they're not home. They're like zombies. But you take this to another level. You take it beyond just the psychology of sort of how they manage to brainwash us or hypnotize us. You actually get into the clinical medical side of this spike protein and of this vaccine and the effect that that had as a part of dumbing us down or, you know, changing actually how our mind is working.
Starting point is 01:19:12 what gives you the background to even get into that conversation? Well, first of all, I had a half a background in molecular genetics, and particularly in immunology. And so I realized very quickly that it was not about the virus. So from the immunology point of view, it was totally clear there had to be something else behind that. And was that pretty instantaneous at what point? I mean, I always like to ask this to my guess, because even here on the show, You know, we were involved in looking at vaccines long before this COVID thing happened, but I just remember people dropping the streets and first was like, well, that's alarming.
Starting point is 01:19:49 But then the numbers just stopped adding up. But at what point did you start to question the narrative? Well, the numbers didn't add up. And in particular, it was clear already for decades that even dying from influenza was caused by something we call a cytokine storm. That means an overreaction of the immune system producing what we call pro-inflammatory cytokines. This is a natural reaction, actually, first that if we have an infection, we produce these. But if we overreact, then, of course, the cytokines themselves become the dangerous part of the disease. Actually, it's not the immune system, it's not the virus that kills.
Starting point is 01:20:29 It's the immune system itself that is disfunk. It's not regulated correctly. And it's known already since, let's say, 30 years, that the main cause, particularly for the seasonality of these diseases, the respiratory diseases. Seasonality, yep. It's based on the low level of vitamin D in the population. And it was-
Starting point is 01:20:50 So you're saying winter time, less sun, sun's lower, less time absorbing this vitamin. We are known now, it's a critical building block of our immune systems and that's why over the winters, everyone starts getting those holiday flus and colds and things like that. Yeah, exactly. And that was known already for decades, and still it was only
Starting point is 01:21:08 vaccination program that was supposedly helpful, you know, to avoid the disease or even or avoid a difficult cause of the disease, even death. But it was not true. It just give people vitamin D and we have a reduced number of people being affected. It was actually shown at the higher level of vitamin D, a natural level, not really high. We talk about a natural level, a level that you, for example, measure in people in Africa who don't eat vitamin D, they don't eat fish, which has. contains vitamin D. They just are out in the sun and they have a level of about 120, 130
Starting point is 01:21:44 nanomore per liter. And that was actually a level which was shown in 2021, that it protects to 100% from severe COVID cases. Right. And I remember I think it was at the level of 50. They said you could not find anyone that died of COVID that was 50 or above. Yeah, that's probably two. But the numbers were published and actually the German Cancer Research center which is really a high-value scientific center in Germany pretty much like the MIT in Howard and they published a paper based on data that peer reviewed that that was in in in fall 2020 before the vaccine program started I actually don't call it vaccine at all I call it spiking because it's I love that you have a different it's all about getting the spike
Starting point is 01:22:35 protein into the body that's what I what we are talking about later on. We'll get to that in just a moment. Sure. But the point is that in fall 2020, the German Cancer Research Center published a paper that 9 of 10 COVID deaths could have been prevented by just giving enough vitamin D to the people. And it was proven at the same time in an experiment in a hospital that people who actually
Starting point is 01:23:00 came into the hospital with severe COVID, severe enough that they couldn't stay at home anymore. So they had to go to the hospital. And of course the question was now, do they have to go to the intensive care unit? Do they have to get artificial breathing? Do they die? So what do we do? And these people, it was a university hospital in the south of Spain, what they did is they
Starting point is 01:23:24 elevated the vitamin D level very quickly, not by giving vitamin D because what you measure as vitamin D in the body as vitamin D level is actually the pro-hormone of vitamin D. It's a modified version of it that is created in the liver. And that's actually the pro-hormone that is turned into the hormone, which regulates, for example, genes that are regulating our immune system. So the elevated the pro-hom- So vitamin D is not technically, it's not a vitamin as much as it's a hormone. Yeah, vitamin D is actually, when it's transformed in the body, it's an actual hormone, and
Starting point is 01:23:57 this hormone regulates the functions in the brain. So for example, with low levels of vitamin D compared to the natural, levels of 125 compared to let's say 25 you have a 70% higher rate for example of Alzheimer's so but just getting the level to 125 nanomboleiter is a takeaway point yeah it's actually in the book because it's we talked later about the Alzheimer's because Alzheimer's is actually a disease starting in the so-called hippocampus it's our autobiographical memory center that's why I call Alzheimer's also the hippocampal dementia okay and you can prevent it it's known to be
Starting point is 01:24:34 that we can prevent it. And that's the second part of my education that allowed me to write this book. So the first part was the immunological part. The other one is the neurological part. Because here everything comes together. Right. And my wife actually asked me,
Starting point is 01:24:47 why did I write the book and not somebody else out of 8 billion people? And I was actually wondering myself because the data are out there. There's all these puzzle pieces of the puzzle I put together, but these pieces were out there for everybody to see. But maybe I saw them
Starting point is 01:25:02 because I have two specialities, immunology and neurobology. And then when you look from both parts, you can actually put these puzzle pieces together to a picture seamless. And then you see it completely different, have a different, completely different view what's actually going on. Now going back to the, to the data we had on vitamin D, it was totally clear that people wouldn't die from COVID, but still there was no interest actually to provide people vitamin D. So when the first trial started with the with this spiking program vaccination those who didn't get my term. We'll stick with spiking program. I think we got it.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Yeah. So when this did the trials, I was asking myself, whenever I wanted to make a clinical trial, I have to test my my new product against the best alternative that's out there. Right. Well, the best alternative based on research like for example from the German, from the from the German cancer research center is to give people. vitamin D. So you compare the vaccination, the spiking compared to, you have to prepare to people who actually get enough vitamin D. But with vitamin D, nobody dies. So what does a vaccine do? Nothing. Right. So, but they didn't do the trial like this. They actually told us, you don't have to use vitamin D. Vitamin D is dangerous. The New England Journal of Medicine
Starting point is 01:26:25 published in fall 2020, 2020, they published that nobody needs vitamin D, even if there's a deficiency in vitamin D, you don't need it. And physicians should stop testing vitamin D, and people should stop supplementing vitamin D, even if they have a deficit. That's the New England Journal of Medicine. By the way, the same journal that published most of these trials on the spiking program. So it's incredible. And to your point, as you point out in the book, if this really was a public health measure, we would have gone with, first of all, the fastest and cheapest route, even while we're waiting for the vaccine. Maybe the vaccine's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Maybe it won't. But why didn't every, you know, health department say at least bump up your vitamin D, get your vitamin D up, you're going to, you know, you're going to do a lot better here. They didn't do that. And then to your point, they went the opposite direction. They, you know, basically attacked. We had a chiropractor on here that got sued for $500 billion by the United States of America for recommending vitamin D. Okay. That fits the bill.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Yeah. Coming back to this study, I wanted to discuss. In the study, they gave not vitamin D, but vitamin D pro-hormone. That is essentially the form that is circling in the blood, and that's what you usually measure when you measure vitamin D. And you have to pump up this quickly. If you just give vitamin D and not the vitamin D pro-hormone, it takes three, four, or five days before the level goes up.
Starting point is 01:27:51 But you can imagine if you come to the hospital severely ill, you don't have much time. You don't have four or five days. Right. So they gave the vitamin D pro-homone and the level went up quick. The consequence compared to the control group, it was a control trial, nobody died, nobody went to the intensive care unit compared to the control group. So the risk of getting into the intensive care unit was 25 times higher without vitamin D pro-hormone. Wow.
Starting point is 01:28:20 So this study should have immediately triggered something and it was published three months before the vaccination program started. Wow. So it was all known. And of course, at that point I was out. asking myself, why is this happening? And now, coming back to my research on Alzheimer's disease, I knew that neuroinflammation,
Starting point is 01:28:39 inflammation in the brain is the major cause of Alzheimer's. And it's caused usually by a lifestyle that is not healthy, a lifestyle that is far away from our natural lifestyle. So we have deficiencies, not only by vitamin D, maybe also omega-3 fatty acids, we don't walk enough. And what I realized, and I published this in a peer-reviewed paper in 2016, It's called Unified Theory of Alzheimer's disease.
Starting point is 01:29:03 And in this paper I show that the production of nerve cells in our autobiographical memory, if this is down, you get... Autobiographical memory. Yeah, it's essentially our... The story we're writing about ourselves. Everything that we think about, everything that we experience, everything we talk about with other people, everything is stored in our brain, but in one particular region of the brain, which has an anatomical structure that looks like a sea horse. Okay, yep. And the Latin, or the Greek word for
Starting point is 01:29:37 sea horse is hippocampus. Oh, okay. And that's why it's called the hippocampus. And the hippocampus has the ability for the whole life. Here we show you see a picture. Yeah, it's on, it's in here, the temporal lobe, like a big, the size of a thumb. Okay. Here on both sides. And it has the ability to grow the wealth of our experience over the whole lifetime. Even if you get 120 years old, you still can remember new things every day without forgetting old things. That's what the hippocampus allows you. But only under one premise, it has to produce new nerve cells every day. Okay, so it has to keep producing...
Starting point is 01:30:16 Yeah, because it's limited in size, and if you are a wealth of experience growth, it has to grow as well. Wow, it's like expanding your hard drive. Yeah, it's constantly growing. And the growth is really instrumental for many things, not only that, your memory stays sharp over your whole life. It also has additional abilities. So these new nerve cells which are produced, the technical term is adult because it's still happening when we are grown up.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Adult, hippocampal, because it's happening only in the hippocampus, neurogenesis. So genesis meaning birth. So adult hippocampal neurogenesis. Yeah, adult, hippocampal neurogenesis. And this process, if this is ongoing, it prevents completely the likely, the likely, you know, that you get Alzheimer's. So the only thing you have to do is fertilize your brain, with something that the brain needs.
Starting point is 01:31:08 And you put an evolutionary perspective, it's totally clear what we need. So if the cells are growing, they provide you with something which we call curiosity. These are actually the, I would say, the neuronal correlate for human curiosity. If these cells are not working, if they're not produced, you're not curious anymore.
Starting point is 01:31:29 Wow. You try to remain in the brain. in your normal life behavior, but you don't want to get out of it. You don't want to think out of the box. So there are the main reason that we are curious. But when you are curious, you have an idea to go into new fields of thinking, maybe in new areas of walking. You may be, you change your terrain where you have been living before.
Starting point is 01:31:55 These are all things that are kind of potentially dangerous. So what these cells also provide you with is the psychological resilience. So if these cells are upgrowing, your psychological resilience is down and you can be essentially led by fearmongering very easily. Everything that is kind of frightful is dangerously frightful for you because you don't have these cells. So you say your curiosity is what takes you out the door. It's what allows you to take risk.
Starting point is 01:32:27 I'm curious enough. I'm going to get outside my comfort zone. As we lose that curiosity, we get more and more controlled. We want our environment to stay controlled. I was just talking about this with my wife. A lot of young people I see this, like a fear of change. You change the schedule or something that's like the end of the world. That's completely unnatural.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Natural would be that we grow our wealth of experience, and actually that's the main reason humans get so old, older than their reproduction phase. Like chimpanzee, for example, when they are 40, 50 years old, a few years after they have given the last birth, they actually die. They only get 55, maybe 60 years old. Humans can get up to 120 years old. And way past their child.
Starting point is 01:33:13 And the main reason that's actually published and well reviewed is the grandmother hypothesis, which says being alive as a grandmother creates the likelihood that provides a likelihood or increases a likelihood that your grandchildren survive. that's published until the end of the 19th century, it's known that for every decade, a grandmother lives, she has two grandchildren that grow up to adulthood. That makes her genes essentially survive. Wow.
Starting point is 01:33:45 So, but that only works. Is that because she takes care of them? And is it part of the family? Like when we... Many things. She provides help. She's able to help. Yeah. And she has wisdom.
Starting point is 01:33:55 It's not like 100 years ago, you couldn't ask Google what you have to do. you have to ask grandmother. Right. And that's actually known and it's published well and it's essentially a fact. And the point is the only way yet to get grandmothers and grandparents of, and grandfathers of course as well, because they share the same genes, is that they grow their wealth of experience up to the oldest age. And that's only possible because we are essentially by nature allowed to produce new nerve cells
Starting point is 01:34:28 up to the highest age in the hippocampus. And these cells, as I said, provide us with the ability to grow all wealth of experience, but also to be curious that we actually learn new things. And if the grandmother wouldn't learn new things, then she would be done. And so if we take grandma away from the family, not involved, not taking walks,
Starting point is 01:34:49 not meeting grandchildren, chasing them around the room, we stick her in an old folks home to sit in a quiet room by herself, Does she die quicker? Absolutely, and it enhances very fast the development of Alzheimer's and depression. Because since these cells also provide us with a high level of psychological resilience, their production, if you shut the production down, the result is a high level or high risk of getting depression.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Actually, all antidepressiva, all drugs against depression, do one thing in common that is activating the production of these nerve cells. But of course it doesn't work if you don't add other things to it that these cells need. So without vitamin D, without let's say omega-3 fatty acids, without maybe enough hiking, without experiences that these cells have to essentially code, they wouldn't survive. So you need essentially a natural habitat that you can really easily explain from an evolutionary perspective. So taking this all together and I published another book and I just actually wrote a scientific
Starting point is 01:35:56 paper about it is that, and there was a Nobel Prize in 2002 to Daniel Kahneman who showed that being able to make decisions in situations where it's demanded maybe to get out of the comfort zone, to really think that you need some kind of mental energy. And what I've shown in the paper before this one is called the exhausted brain, but it hasn't been translated yet into English, it's only in German, but it was a bestseller there. In the exhausted brain, I show that the mental energy is provided by these nerve cells. If these nerve cells are there, you are eager to learn and to think. But if they are not there, you're not eager to think.
Starting point is 01:36:36 And essentially, this is what you are missing. You don't have the mental energy to think. And that's what happens usually in people during the day. If I work very hard during the first hours of the day, at least in the afternoon, the latest in the evening, I'm what science call ego-depleted. I'm out of mental energy.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Yeah. So that's no problem because overnight these cells grow back, grow up, grow... Wants of sleep. Yeah. And in the morning, because they only grow when we sleep, in the morning, hundreds of these cells are there again and my ego is replenished and I can start thinking and driving again, being curious again, and learn new things. So these cells we can regard as the mental immune system of humans. You have to think about this from, let's say, an evolutionary.
Starting point is 01:37:26 point of view again, or let's say the evolutionary imperative is to be futile and to multiply. Right. That's the imperative. We can also read of course in the Bible, but it's the imperative of the evolution. The two of us wouldn't be sitting here if our parents and grandparents and so forth haven't essentially obeyed to this imperative. Right.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Okay. But in order to actually be fertile, you have to have to be to grow up. In order to grow up, you have to defend your life all the time. Against microorganisms, it's clear. We defend with our bodily immune system, the immune cells against microorganisms which could be pathogenic. But we also have to have an immune system against microorganisms that could be pathogenic. Right. Maybe animals, but mostly other humans. Right. The only way to be, to protect yourself against other humans.
Starting point is 01:38:26 So we're in a constant battle with microorganisms, our bodies having to fight, we're fighting to stay alive, macro organisms, things that are coming from the outside. ...dominate our life, for example. Right. So we have our mental immune system, our memory of things of the past, how we are the communication with other people, we have the ability to think about these things, we have and come up with solutions. So we have a mental immune system. This mental immune system is essentially crucially depending on the ability to be able to
Starting point is 01:38:55 produce these nerve cells. If we don't produce these nerve cells, our mental immune system breaks down. Right. Now, in 2002, 2003, when SARS-CoV-1 was out there, and I was working on, already on the idea that these cells are essentially- SARS-CoV-1, so that for, right. SARS-Co-1, yeah, exactly. Before SARS-CoV-E2.
Starting point is 01:39:18 Yeah, SARS-CoV-1 tried to make a pandemic, it managed really, but was scientifically published at the time is that the spike protein activates the immune system producing pro-inflammatory cytokines. And what's already published at the time is that the spike protein, when activating the immune system, then the pro-inflammatory cytokines shut down the production of nerve cells in hippocampus. Actually, it's the best... So this was known all the way back in SARS-CoV-1, that it's inspiring a cytokine reaction
Starting point is 01:39:51 that is shutting down these neurons in your hippocampus that you're. you need to keep creating in order to avoid Alzheimer's at the very least, but also to keep expanding the hard drive, if you will, that's storing your memory and your ability to... Or survive and attack by other, let's say, human beings that want to maybe conquer your life. You have to see it not only from the person's perspective, you have to see it from the society. If I want to dominate a society, I have to shut down the immune system of the society. Of course, it would nise the bodily immune system, but even more important, the mental immune system. And the best point of attack is the shutdown of the adult hippocampal neurogenesis.
Starting point is 01:40:36 That's the best point of attack. And with Sarskov-1, it was shown that by activating the immune system, producing the pro-inframortal cytokines, the very same cytokines that we see in the cytokine storm, these cytokines shut down completely the production of nerve cells in the hippocampus. essentially shut down the mental immune system. So when this Nobel Prize, 2003 was given to the spiking program, and I read about that these scientists who got it came up with the idea 15 years ago, I started to count back and said, well, if they had the idea at that time, how can we actually make sure that enough
Starting point is 01:41:16 spike protein enters the brain to permanently shut down the production of these nerve cells, Well, I have to maybe create a vaccine. And this vaccine should maybe be tampered with in a little way that it produces a portion of the spike protein that efficiently enters the brain by crossing the blood brain barrier. And by putting in the free urine cleavage side, it actually does. So the spiking, but also the infection causes essentially the transfer of the S1s subunit, which is the part which is clipped off of the spike protein by the fureen molecular scissors that we have in our body.
Starting point is 01:42:00 We've talked a lot on this show, the S-1. Exactly. It ends the brain, the brain, and causes brain for example, that's the mild version of it. And it was actually shown that if the receptor for the spike protein, which is called TLR4, if this receptor, for example, is very weak in its activity by genetic variants, then you don't get brain fork. If it's very high in its activity,
Starting point is 01:42:26 you get very likely brain fork. But if this receptor for the spike protein is activated, it leads to the production of interleukin 1, interleukin 6, pro-inflammatory cytokines, and they shut down the adult hyper-hypochrochitis. So you're hypothesizing that if you were going to say, I mean, because what we're talking about is creative thought, curiosity, those things that make someone an independent individual,
Starting point is 01:42:52 taking risk, going out in the world, not like, you know, not shuddering at home and staying afraid. If you needed to control that population, if you wanted them to not be as difficult to manage, to not strike out on their own, remove their independence, remove their autobiographical story that makes them feel like an individual, you would want to shut down the development of those neurons that need to keep growing in the hippocampus. And you're saying that this S-1 is the perfect delivery system. It's what it does. It goes in and shuts exactly that part of the brain down.
Starting point is 01:43:28 And then suddenly this virus comes along. The virus has one issue. You can be infected. But the vaccine itself isolates the part of this that would be the perfect delivery system. Yeah, absolutely. The infection essentially is the fear of from the infection essentially is the means to get everybody, body to actually infect themselves.
Starting point is 01:43:49 Yeah. And it's even worse because now I started to start to think about what actually happens besides shutting down the immune system, something else happens. Even if you are ego depleted in the evening naturally, you have done a lot of, let's say, socially or creative work, social work, and you have learned a lot and your hippocampus is full. So you're ego depleted and that's the main cause you go to sleep. Right. To essentially recharge the energy.
Starting point is 01:44:18 And as you said, it's almost like that hard drive, it's like the thumb, It has to drive and sort of dump the information and clear to get ready for the next day. It's why sleep is really important. That's exactly what's happening. Right. And it is described in detail how it works. But that's completely natural. But you can imagine, even in the evening, I'm a medical doctor.
Starting point is 01:44:39 So in the evening, if a friend calls and says, oh, my wife or my kid is very sick, can you help me? Of course, I'm not telling him on the phone, well, I'm ego depleted right now. Call me next morning. Of course, I will react to it. and I will remember that I have reacted to it. So what happens? I was just telling I have no neurons to actually memorize. So it's still possible.
Starting point is 01:45:03 There is an emergency mechanism. It's quite easy to understand. What happens is the memories from the day will be overwritten by the new memories. So I lose essentially memory content from the day, from the day before. So I reuse those neurons that I've already used. I just essentially use them for something new, which is now actually more important than maybe something else. And I'm starting to override things.
Starting point is 01:45:31 I might override even my memory of a birthday 20 years ago, a birthday celebration. I might override pieces of that because I memorize something new in an emergency situation. This is not really problematic, of course. That's why an emergency situation happens. But consider this emergency situation is now a chronic situation. Let's say you shut down the index, I call them index neurons because they index all our memories. If these neurons that are produced by the adult hippocampal neurogenesis, they are indexing all our memories. So if I shut down the index neuron production completely.
Starting point is 01:46:08 And I force people not by calling them, I have an emergency, but the emergency is a world crisis in climate. It's a world crisis about another pandemic. It's a world crisis about in maybe a nuclear war because people are fighting nonsensically over certain borders. All these things are of course also emergencies, global emergencies and they have impact on my daily life. So I will remember. But I can't actually because I don't have new index neurons because the spike protein has taken care
Starting point is 01:46:40 of them. We don't have adult hippocampal neurogenesis. So what happens? The narratives that are the mainstream telling me start to override piece by piece all the things that make up my personality. Everything, all my memories are overwritten. This is a much more dramatic way of, this is like indoctrination 2.0. You make such a good point, you're probably getting to it, but just because I found
Starting point is 01:47:07 it so shocking and really made me think about my own lifestyle. You talk about that in movement. movies all the time, we show people being brainwashed while they're asleep, right? We put like a mantra and then while they sleep, they suddenly, you know, take that information in and it changes their mind. And you said in the book, actually science has shown that that doesn't work at all. Like they've tried it in every way, shape or form, it doesn't actually work. But what does work is if you can reprogram it their brain right before it goes to sleep, right before it does that download and drops the information off the drive, if you can fill that drive with fear or an impulse,
Starting point is 01:47:44 for information or as you point out this moment we all are so many of us are ending our night with the nightly news we sit there and we turn on the TV and the last thing we do when our mind is exhausted and just you know out of neurons to use we override all of the great experiences with the day with this droning fear and depression and anger and war deceit judgment and overwrite it and And then we go to sleep and then that gets transferred over. Absolutely. I mean, that just found that to be just a mind, just really mind-blowing point. And we're doing it to ourselves.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Yeah, absolutely. And the problem is the index neurons, they remain in the hippocampus of the whole life. These are the ones that essentially everything, the content of everything we learn is uploaded into a new cortical, you say, hard drive, I say. This is where the upload happens in the night. in the first deep sleep phases of the night, the slow-wave sleep, everything is uploaded. The only information that remains is when and where we learned something, or thought about something. And this when and where is encoded by these new neurons that are produced by adult hippocampal neurogenesis.
Starting point is 01:48:57 That's why I call them index neurons. And these index neurons stay in the hippocampus, and you have to add every day new index neurons, otherwise you would start overriding previous experiences. Now, it's not just what we learned over the day that is overwritten in the evening, things that we have learned in the past because this is a whole selection of index neurons that can be used. But if you shut down index neuron production completely, then you essentially over maybe months, but maybe a year, two years, three years, five years, what happens is that you
Starting point is 01:49:32 override almost everything. And then what ends up is you have people that are just, their personality is nothing else than the narrative. And what we experienced already is these informations become part of their personality. And that explains also why people, when you question this narrative in family discussions, you know, hey, I've just got this information about the virus is dangerous for whatever reason, or we have to get this third, fourth, fifth injection. And he said, oh, wait a moment, I have other data. Look at this. It's almost like you step on
Starting point is 01:50:11 their toes. And that's, you go into their private room of, in their privacy, yeah, room of personality and that's actually what's happening. Because these narratives have become part of their personality already. And you don't want to question your personality. Right. Nobody wants that. It's natural. But it shows already what's going on. And the long-term problem is quite clear. I mean, you have had the intro with the great reset. The great reason is essentially a new operating system that is installed to humanity. Like a digital operating system, DOS, we have, I call it in the book, a social operating system, SOS, like Save Our Souls. That's what I mean by it.
Starting point is 01:50:58 It's a social operating system. And like with the DOS system, I remember from my past, when I had to install a new version, I had to erase the old one completely. Otherwise, the new rules would be in conflict with the old rules. Right. So now the same thing happens with humans. You have to install a new operating system, the great reset narratives, but you don't want to have to conflict internally with old information. Like how was the world before?
Starting point is 01:51:27 And so you have to erase essentially and reform it the hard drive in our brain and the best way to do that is override the index neurons. That's what happening is my opinion. And everything that we discussed, or you discussed in your show today, like the increases in death rates, the diverse data, you know, on all these diseases, autoimmune, the extreme rise in depression and Alzheimer's, which are all hippocampal diseases, can be explained, but are all, in my opinion, only a collateral damage of the main purpose that is to transform the mind to accept a new way of operational.
Starting point is 01:52:09 system of the society. And this operating system has to be a global one. Because the narrative tells us these threats that now became personalities, you know, for the people, they become their new personality, all these threats are global. And no government in the world, no individual government can solve the problem. So who can solve the problem? A world government. Right. So the very people who essentially started this whole program, this war on the human
Starting point is 01:52:39 brain are the ones who tell us now they are also the ones that can solve the problem. Right. Install it new global. Stockholm syndrome you talk about. I mean, this idea of like we end up, you know, the very people that attack us, kidnap us, take away all of our rights, then they end up being the ones, we're your salvation, we're going to take care of you, and in the end we won't even run for help. We think we're with the people that help us.
Starting point is 01:53:06 When you were saying, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the uploading the system or updating the seven. I think about my cell phone update. I think about how many times people go, don't touch that new update. It messes your whole phone up. I was thinking about this, I was reading this, so many of us right now that somehow managed to escape
Starting point is 01:53:24 getting the vaccine, critical thinking kicked in. We didn't, you know, we kept, you know, growing our adult neurons, hippocampal neurons. And so, but I was like, it's like we dodged that update. We didn't get the update. And now, Now the world has a problem. Now these world leaders have a problem. It's actually a pretty large group of people that are now walking the planet that are not working on the same operating system as everybody else. Yeah, this is this is the group that is really the group that gives me hope. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:57 This is a group that gives me hope. And it's interesting. It's like 20, 22 percent roughly. If we judge it by the rate of who the ones. who accepted the spiking program and the ones who didn't. And this 22% is actually the percentage that the very famous conform, confirmation experiment by Solomon Nash in the mid-1950s showed. He showed that people believe their own mind and not believe the masses if they are actually looking at the data and they see that the data are correct. And even the mass says, no, it's not correct. They believe their common sense and not follow the mass.
Starting point is 01:54:42 And it might be actually genetic that just such a percentage exists. Because this is my belief, because if everybody would follow the mass, if this percentage who doubt things. Yeah, why does the group, doesn't? I personally, I give my parents some credit for socializing me. I mean, they socialized me to not trust, to not trust authority. They were 60s hippies, pulled me out of school. homeschooled me and said, they're trying to brainwash you, we're not going to allow that.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Now, I don't know, maybe, and I always question that. No, no, it's, do I have some internal moral authority that allows me to do this show and not buy into what's going on? And one of the conversations, I've several of the conversations I have over the holidays, is what people don't know about me is I also am as skeptical of the conspiracy theory narrative, too. I don't buy any of it. Like, I don't just buy in, you know, right now we're doing investments in gas stations of
Starting point is 01:55:36 chemtrails, just some of it I'm looking. at, but some of the science isn't adding up to it. And I'm being honest in that investigation. I don't just across, and I've said to friends, across the board, I'm skeptical. I'm curious. Yeah, that's what we have to be. I mean, I have discussions with friends who said,
Starting point is 01:55:52 well, maybe there's no virus at all, you know, all these. And what I fear is that if there's, we need a controlled opposition, and I'm not controlled by the guys who actually installed this whole program. this whole program. I mean, controlled meaning that we all understand together what we want to achieve. Right. And if everybody comes up with another theory, another theory, another theory, that is just lost. Totally absurd, then we are divided and then that's how we get conquered, you know. We should actually go back to the science and understand what the science is. I agree. So here I provide all the science that I do, but what I'm not doing is I'm saying
Starting point is 01:56:32 there is actually conspiracy behind it. It could be, but I'm not sure. It's not sure. It's It's very likely because I show... Well, that was going to be my next question, right? I always asked everyone that sits in that seat, who is the they? Is there a they? Is this somewhat chaotic? Is it greed-based? Is it ego-based?
Starting point is 01:56:52 Is it power-driven? I mean, I think a lot of it could be explained by that. I still, as much as I do this show every week, I point out all of the thing. I mean, this book, I would say, you probably... got me closer to thinking, boy, does this look planned than anything else I've read so far? So, you know, and I was going to ask you because you don't really hand it to me. You don't hand me the book and say, so they planned this. It would not be scientific anymore to just say that because I have no evidence for that,
Starting point is 01:57:29 but I have some very good hints. So for example, everybody knows that despite protein is toxic for the brain. It was known to everybody, everybody in the scientific community. So the virus was produced as a bioweapon. Of course, it could be just a game in a lab, you know? Yeah. And maybe it really happened to be accidentally, you know, moved out. Just let's assume that because we have no, nobody said.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Well, as you pointed out in the book and I've said, but there is a question. Yeah, I mean, while we say lab origin, that doesn't end the conversation. Now the question is accidental or on purpose. but we don't have proof, but it should be on the table of questions we're asking. Yeah, absolutely. But if I can't really answer this question beyond any doubt, you know, in a, let's say, in a lawsuit. So let's be as conservative as we can. Yeah, but what I know is the spike protein is toxic, and what it makes it really toxic is if you're in cleavage side.
Starting point is 01:58:29 So now if the virus escape was just an escape by accident, let's assume, besides that, that how could they get the vaccine out so quickly and all these kinds of things. Right. But they decided on the spike protein, including this defuring cleavage site, as an vaccination program. So they decided on the most toxic part of it. Right. I mean, I'm a molecular geneticist, a single point mutation in the spike protein code
Starting point is 01:58:58 would have removed the cleavage side, but they left it in. They decided to infect essentially with this mRNA every cell. why not just use a protein? Why use a vehicle like lipid nanoparticles which were produced and generated to enter the brain? Designed to enter the brain. It was designed to help drugs that we wanted to get to the brain to get to the brain. And then we use that as the encapsulation of... And it was known that it enters the brain.
Starting point is 01:59:27 It was published by the European safety community, authority. And then this is... This is then why you showed the data, you know, little children, you know, youngsters don't have a problem, but why do we force them to get injected? Right. Doesn't make sense. And then there's another portion of the virus like the nuclear capsid. The nuclear capsid has proven to be more and more stable when you got infected to provide you with immunity.
Starting point is 02:00:01 And it was proposed. I have seen papers in 2020 proposing by scientists. use, why don't you use a nuclear caps it would be completely non-toxic to people to do the immunization this way. And then least of all, why do an immunization at all? Just give the people vitamin D and not create a propaganda, a very strong propaganda narrative, that vitamin D is not useful, it's nonsensical and even dangerous for people at levels that are completely natural. So taking that together, well, the jury is my reader, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:39 And it's amazing now, and people aren't just doing this once and doing this twice, three boosters, four boosters. I will say, also what gives me hope is a relatively large group of the population that turned this down, ignored the greatest, you know, worldwide propaganda campaign that we've ever seen. Yeah, and it was actually shown in the experiment of Solomon Nash. and I provided the information in the book. If this experiment was like this, you have 12 people, 11 were instructed to say something wrong. All the same, this is wrong.
Starting point is 02:01:15 And you know it's actually right, but the 12th person thought these all, these group experiments where these had the whole group. Yeah, all the other 11. They're all in on it. Yeah, they thought they were freely deciding. So, well, if all these 11 things this is wrong, then it must be wrong, even if I see that it's right.
Starting point is 02:01:33 So, but 20% or so, you know, but if from this 11, which were instructed to say something wrong, only one of them was instructed to say the correct thing. So it was only 10. The 12th person was more inclined to follow his own common sense than the mass. So if these 20% speak out loudly. So you only need to have one person confirming your perspective. perspective. And suddenly it'll trigger if you're sitting there, it'll allow you to make the right
Starting point is 02:02:07 decision. The numbers change. Wow. And I can say one thing, and that's the main reason I- Really great point. The main thing, I wrote this book, besides that I want to have a life for my children and my grandchildren to be in a free world. And we have to remember in centuries, people have fought for freedom.
Starting point is 02:02:28 And now we just give it up so easily. It can't happen. But the main reason I wrote this book is because. Because I believe that when you have certain knowledge, with this knowledge comes also responsibility. You cannot just sit here and say, oh, I know about this, but I'm too fearful to say something about it. With knowledge comes responsibility. And coming to my last chapter in the book, everybody who listens to us here, I know for
Starting point is 02:02:56 sure his adult hippocampal neurogenesis works. Otherwise he wouldn't be curious enough to sit here and what us. Right. So everybody who watches us has a responsibility, not just being passive, aggressive, you know, listening and okay, they are right and yeah, talking about it maybe with the wife or the husband or whatever, but really going out there, talking, being aggressive, talking to people who are on the verge of actually accepting that there was something wrong.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Yes. Yeah. We're growing this bubble, you know, where we are in at the moment or feel like being in, growing this bubble, make it it from 20% to 30% to 40% and if only one person who has the right mindset and everybody who views us here has the right mindset, I'm 100% sure, convinces one other person we already have a majority. Right. And that's what we have to do. And that's what my book is for. Fantastic. And your book does that as well as any book I have ever read.
Starting point is 02:03:59 I don't get up here and just celebrate things that I don't believe in. This is such an important book. I could go on and on. Let me just finish because one of the thoughts that I had was one of the debates I keep having with myself is 1984 Orwell versus Brave New World. And I've had discussions with people, which is more true now? And you actually bring it up in a book and you put it in a way that I really found interesting. And I don't want to, you know, overstate it because you sort of play both sides. But I would say in many ways, Matthias Desmitt's book is straight 1984.
Starting point is 02:04:39 It's the, it's how they use, you know, pressure and social pressures to get me to believe that 2 plus 2 actually equals 5, standing in that room where I'm the only one that knows the truth. I have to go along with the group and all that, the hypnosis, all of that. What you get to hear, I would say that this book to me, is the brave new world side of this equation. And you point out, even more horrifying than 1984 is in Brave New World, people are no longer giving birth. It's a medical society.
Starting point is 02:05:10 They're controlling you from the time you're born. They're controlling the amount of oxygen getting into your brain in a test tube. And then as you go along, the elites have a brain that works better. And there's the group that are just the workers, the slaves, and they don't want to be elites. They're all happy with where they're at.
Starting point is 02:05:27 And if anyone gets out of line, they're told to take a drug, and it's that sort of medical society. And what I think really, I would say these are two brilliant companion books. One definitely true. We had a whole sci-up, an intellectual, social pressure upon us. But what you're saying is they have injected you with a product that went directly, medically at the space in your brain that makes you an individual, that makes you brave, that makes you independent.
Starting point is 02:05:56 and they set out whether on purpose or not, they have shut down that and have led everyone into, you talk about, you know, zombie mode or Alzheimer's, all forms of losing cognition and a recognition of who we really are. Yeah, absolutely. And even if I'm maybe wrong,
Starting point is 02:06:18 even though my subjective, if I would be on the jury, I believe this is not happening just by accident, but everybody else, everybody can judge on that. But even it doesn't matter, actually. It doesn't matter if it's on purpose or by accident, it's happening. Yeah. Yeah, it's really happening.
Starting point is 02:06:35 It is happening. And my book provides a formula against indoctrination, and this formula against indoctrination is a formula for willpower. It's a formula for curiosity, and it's a formula against Alzheimer's. Just by that, it should be a reason for people to look into the book, because if we stay healthy mentally, nobody can do us any harm. We need this mental immune system to be active, and it's not much we have to do actually to keep it active.
Starting point is 02:07:04 I'm so glad you took the time to join us, made this trip here, especially to take the time to write this very, very important book. It's really an honor and pleasure to spend this time. Thank you, Del. For pleasure being here. And to be honest, I told you beforehand, this book is maybe, I hope, important, but as important is people like you who actually tell people that this book exists. And even the book, people don't read the book.
Starting point is 02:07:29 At least they got the message. And probably a thousand times more people got at least the message. And that's what we are here for. Thank you very much. We do. Absolutely. Thank you. I've hit it pretty hard.
Starting point is 02:07:41 I'm going to hit it again. You need to get this book. Get on Amazon, wherever you can buy a book. Everybody should own this alongside of Mieti, Matthias Desmond's book, The Psychology of Totalitarianism, these two books, really, if you want to know what's happened to us and what's going on and what we need to think about in the future and recognize how important it is to be passionate. I know if you could tell today, I was really kind of pumped up. It's because I was really excited to talk about this and with the authors. So I can't recommend it enough.
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Starting point is 02:09:34 I'm very excited about 2024 because I think this is the year that decides everything. I really do. I think that the decisions we make in this year will decide whether we have a future, whether we are allowed to be free, whether we are allowed to have control over our own minds and certainly the things that other people inject into us. If we lose the power to control our own bodies, we lose the power to control our own minds. The technology is now there. It's no longer a myth. It's no longer a theory. This is the world that we live in. And this is the world this year that we are going to decide that
Starting point is 02:10:14 we leave to our children. It's a really important election here in the United States of America. I have concerns that if we do not handle this year correctly with all the powers of the WHO treaties and the desire by the globalist to get us all into control, to lock us down in our 15-minute cities, to start taking away everything we know to be true about sovereignty and freedom. They are not, this isn't, it's no longer like a guess, they're tight. They're telling us they're coming after it. They're coming after our farmers. They're shutting down our food supply. They're talking over and over again about the fact that there's just too many of us. We're useless eaters. They need to get in control. We must comply is the message that
Starting point is 02:11:01 is happening every time you turn on your news. And please, please, if I learn anything from this book, stop watching the news right before you go to sleep. You need to have a good download of information and all the beautiful things that happened in your life that day. And the best way to bring beauty in your life is to bring beauty to other people's lives. It is now more important than ever that you stop watching the highway and saying, boy, I'm glad Del Beatty's out there fighting for the truth. If you don't fight for the truth, you, I'm going to you, you watching right now, if you don't make the truth the most important part of your reason for living right now in your life,
Starting point is 02:11:42 then it's over for all of us. We're not going to have enough people. We're going to be outmanned. And they're all going to turn on us like the zombie apocalypse, and it will be over. Whether they do it through voting or robbing us of a vote or a civil war or whatever may happen, it is only by our creative thoughts, by our ability to speak our truth and our passion to do so, to realize that though it seems like everyone else in this room is brainwashed, I'm going to speak out because this one other person next to me may be thinking, gee, that line looks shorter to me.
Starting point is 02:12:20 In this test we talk about the lines, and that's what we're discussing in this psychology test, we need to start talking to each other. We need to find out who each other are. I said this all through COVID. When people were coming in and said, I'm going to get fired. I'm the only one that's against the vaccine. There's no way that's true. I said it.
Starting point is 02:12:39 There's no way that's true. There's no way that the United States of America that 30% of people turned down that vaccine. That's what they're saying. CDC's own numbers. About 70% took the vaccine. That means for everybody that thought they were going to lose their job, 30% of that company, on average was ready to walk out the door if we knew who each other were. We could have been powerful enough.
Starting point is 02:13:02 30% of any company walking out the door shuts it down right there. Stops the takeover right there. but they get to us because they're making us afraid to speak our truth, making us afraid so we don't meet that neighbor right next to us that isn't brainwashed. That is still got a working hippocampus. This is what I'm going to be up to all year. We're going to keep handing you information. Get on our newsletter.
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