The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 358: THE POWER GAME

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

Special Interests Are Losing the Power Game as Tucker Carlson is Set To Release His Interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin; Jefferey Jaxen Reports on the US Border Crisis and its connection t...o a bombshell UN document, Elon’s Neuralink implanted in its first human brain and the roll out of Apple Vision; Firebrand Member of European Parliament Calls Out the EU on Growing Farmers ProtestsGuests: Rob Roos, MEPBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Yeah. Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out onto the high wire. I'm going to predict that this evening we may have one of the biggest internet sensations of all times. Tonight, Tucker Carlson is going to release his interview of Vladimir Putin. I think it may just break the internet. This is him talking about that feat.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Take a look at this. We're in Moscow tonight. We're here to interview the president of Russia, Vladimir Putin. Since the day the war in Ukraine began, American media outlets have spoken to scores of people from Ukraine, and they have done scores of interviews with Ukrainian president Zelensky. We ourselves have put in a request for an interview with Zelensky. hope he accepts. But the interviews he's already done in the United States are not traditional interviews. They are fawning pep sessions specifically designed to amplify Zelensky's demand that
Starting point is 00:01:55 the U.S. enter more deeply into a war in Eastern Europe and pay for it. That is not journalism. It is government propaganda, propaganda of the ugliest kind, the kind that kills people. At the same time, our politicians and media outlets have been doing this, promoting a foreign leader like he's a new consumer brand. Not a single Western journalist has bothered to interview the president of the other country involved in this conflict, Vladimir Putin. Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what his goals are now. They've never heard his voice.
Starting point is 00:02:29 That's wrong. Americans have a right to know all they can about a war they're implicated in, and we have the right to tell them about it because we've been. We are Americans too. Freedom of speech is our birthright. We are not here because we love Vladimir Putin. We are here because we love the United States. We are not encouraging you to agree with what Putin may say in this interview, but we are urging you to watch it. You should know as much as you can. And then, like a free citizen and not a slave, you can decide for yourself. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Well, we all watched just a few months ago when Tucker Carlson lost his job. was fired from Fox for not really towing the corporate line and running a story he didn't believe in. Well, now he's out on his own. He's using Twitter as a platform. I think it's fascinating. But there's a lot of people that are really hating on this idea. Why would he possibly think it was a good idea to interview Vladimir Putin? Shame on you, Tucker Carlson, seems to be the battle cry. Watch this. Putin is trying to court the MAGA GOP in the United States. In fact, one of the leaders of the MAGA GOP is in Moscow tonight. It's the man you see here with the MAGA leader Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:03:43 Tucker Carlson. I think what's really shocking about this is it was the way he kind of just walks right into Moscow and presents himself on a silver platter to the Kremlin doing the Kremlin's job of misinforming, disinforming the American population. This was Putin's mouthpiece in the United States. Somebody who had turned a blind eye
Starting point is 00:04:04 to the atrocities committed by Putin because they were happening far away. Tucker Carlson is in Moscow and just confirmed that he's going to be interviewing Russian President Vladimir Putin. He argues that Americans have a right to know all they can about a war they're implicated in. Do you have a comment on either of the interview or with that allegation?
Starting point is 00:04:21 Absolutely not. Absolutely not a comment or absolutely not that didn't have it? Absolutely not a comment to be more clear, period. Carlson is now just another far-right conspiracy peddler with a show on the internet. Well, there it is. He's obviously doing something incredible. wrong. This is not what the news is supposed to do. There are people calling for sanctions. Some saying he shouldn't be allowed in the country exclusive. Tucker Carlson could face sanctions
Starting point is 00:04:47 over Putin interview. I believe it's Bill Crystal had this to say. Perhaps we need a total and complete shutdown of Tucker Carlson reentering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. Really? Is it that hard to figure out what's going on? a curious journalist is interviewing someone he's curious about. I mean, this is really, really out of hand. And I think that it smacks of destruction of journalism. So let me just remind everybody in case you were only born yesterday. It used to be that we'd go out of our way, even to interview Putin.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Here's all the people that have interviewed Putin before. They weren't called treasonous. You can see almost every major news outlet in the world tried to get that interview, wanted that interview, because it used to be we wanted to know him. And by the way, there was never a moment in there where Putin was ever considered our ally. He was always considered to be against America. But why did all of those people want to interview him so that we would know who he was? So we would know what his thoughts were.
Starting point is 00:05:52 So that maybe if he's lying, that maybe we could sense that. But should we really live in a bubble where we do not hear anything from the other side, where we're only allowed to hear from those that completely agree with us? I mean, I grew up believing that journalism was a space where we could interview anybody we wanted to, especially the worst among us. This is Barbara Walters with Fidel Castro. And then Dan Rather, who did he interview? Saddam Hussein. Diane Sawyer, Charles Manson. I mean, why give that guy any time on screen?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Larry King with Muammar Gaddafi. And then Peter Arnett with Asama bin Laden. That used to be what journalism looked like in the free country known as the United States of America. But now what we believe journalists should be doing is telling us what they believe in only interviewing what they think is right. And in most cases now, it's exactly what our government wants them to say, you know, I dealt with this a little bit. Just on a totally, on the little level I'm at, when I decided to interview Alex Jones. I got so much hate mail and emails from many of you that, you know, watch this show. I was quite shocked, actually, that you would be surprised that I would interview anybody.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I hope that you're never surprised again, but here's just one of the emails to give you a sense. I'm heartbroken, not just by the interview, but by the idea that Del Bintree is aligned with all that Alex is spouting. I have many thoughts on this, but feel that articulating those thoughts here is not necessary, as undoubtedly others have expressed concerns than they had and have been ignored. They were. Del read one of those letters before the interview. His judgment could very well be the most damaging thing
Starting point is 00:07:36 that has ever happened to the high wire. Well, if his ideas are damaging, don't you want to know why? Don't you don't want to know why he made those statements? Don't you want to know what happened? I mean, it's incredible to me that we now live in a space of journalism where if you're interviewing somebody,
Starting point is 00:07:53 you agree with them. I mean, do you realize how, dangerous that is, that we are now in a place where we are absolutely terrified of hearing from the other side. And when you ask is the public for us to think that way, what you're saying is, I don't trust my own mind. I don't trust my own ability to turn the television off if I don't want to listen to it or to listen to it with a critical mind and get my own understanding out of it. That's okay. It's a free country. If you decide you don't want to listen to certain perspectives, that's your right. But as journalists, we should not be.
Starting point is 00:08:26 keeping you pigeonholed only listening to one perspective or we no longer live in a free country. We no longer have a First Amendment. We are in serious trouble. Let me remind you what John F. Kennedy said about this subject. We are not afraid to entrust the American people with the unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values for a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. He said that February 26, 1962. Well, we have a government now that is clearly afraid of its people. We've talked about the Twitter files. I'm not sure if you're aware that the Amazon files have now just dropped. Jim Jordan has been bringing a lot of attention to this during the congressional
Starting point is 00:09:17 hearings. He tweeted this about the Amazon files. Feeling pressure from the White House, Internal docs subpoenaed by ad judiciary GOP and at weaponization indicate that at Amazon bowed down to Biden White House pressure to censor books. He has some examples. After the White House spent a week berating Amazon, what did the online bookstore do? Starting on March 9th, the same day as it's meeting with the White House, Amazon enabled do not promote for books that express the view that vaccines were not effective. How did the Biden White House conclude that there was propaganda and misinformation in books,
Starting point is 00:09:52 sold in Amazon's bookstore. The White House ran keyword searches for controversies, topics such as vaccine, and emailed Amazon when it didn't like how the search results appeared. In fact, this is the same guy that ran the Twitter files, ran these exact, you know, sort of siops, if you will, against Amazon, Andy Slavitt. He was interacting. And they're incredible to watch these email exchanges because at first Amazon's saying, I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:10:20 What are you asking us to do? Are you asking us to like get rid of books that are on our website? Like what exactly? And he starts laying out a plan that when he does these searches that the books that are coming up, obviously the most popular ones, the ones that everybody are reading, are not the ones our government agrees with. And you need to change that. You need to change that right away.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And particularly they didn't like books talking about the fact that the COVID vaccine might not stop transmission. You do realize now, I hope, especially if you're watching this show, that the backseat doesn't stop transmission. And shows like mine got censored for telling you that from the very beginning. How did we have proof? We had FDA writing exactly that. But if you brought that truth, our government was afraid. They were afraid of people hearing that truth, unable to handle that truth.
Starting point is 00:11:12 And so instead, they won on television and said, if you question me as in Fauci, you're questioning science. only two years later having to admit in a congressional hearing, yeah, that social distancing thing that destroyed your economy, locked you out of your jobs, yeah, that kind of just appeared out of nowhere, had no basis in science. And that vaccine, I told you would definitely stop transmission. If you get it, if you get the vaccine, you'll catch it, you won't hold on to it, you won't get infected, and you will not transmit it.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Everyone's protected. Total freaking lie. A little bit later, I'm going to be talking to Robert Roos, because he was master exposing that when he, got Janine Smalls to admit, well, we were just moving at the speed of science we never actually tested to see if it stopped transmission. He's coming up later in the show. But what happens in a world where we only hear what the government allows us to hear, where we can only read what the government allows us to read? What happens is you are now living in a dystopian nightmare,
Starting point is 00:12:11 or maybe it's something like China or North Korea or how about Russia? Is that what we want for ourselves in a world where the media is a propaganda machine for the government. I'll tell you what that looks like. You know how that works? You end up seeing stories that don't make any sense outside. Like if you're not in the bubble, you step outside, like, wait a minute, I'm not sure how that was a story. Recently, there's a headline and a photo that blew up, bombed that threat disrupts New York Court where Trump case is being heard. There's a huge protest outside. People had anti-Trump banners. No one is above the law. Trump is over. And believe me, this isn't. going to be a story about Trump. This is just about this massive protest. So big, in fact,
Starting point is 00:12:53 that it appears that every news agency in the world covered it. We went online to just see how important was this story to mainstream media and all the newspaper outlets. And when we did a search and scroll down, look how many people carried that photo. Look how many, you know, headlines there were. I mean, it's like almost every newspaper in the world thought, oh my God, this protest has to be covered. This is amazing. This is news. This is massive. Everyone needs to know about this. Well, how massive was it? Somebody decided to share a video from this massive protest against Donald Trump and bomb threat. There they are. Two guys. It appears four signs, I think in general, between the two of them. But all of the press was there.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Folks, I have news for you. When the press outnumbers the protest, you know you are part of watching propaganda. That's what that is. So we decide. We're going to be talking about this today. What world do we want to live in? If you're here in the United States of America, do you want to just give up being a beacon of light and hope for the world? A world where a journalist can interview whoever they want, whenever they want, however they want, even if the person across of them is lying through their teeth. We're going to allow you to decide by seeing that. Allow a journalist to have their opinion, take it or leave it. It's called. It's called. the freedom of speech.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And it's called freedom of the press. When all of the press show the same stupid photo that is clearly a manufactured lie, you have a problem. When all the press sound exactly the same, that is a sign
Starting point is 00:14:37 that your freedom of the press is over, that you are now living in a dystopian nightmare that looks a little bit like this. Hi, I'm Fox and Antonio's Jessica Headley and I'm Ryan Wolf our greatest responsibility is to serve our Treasure Valley communities the El Paso-Luss-Cruces communities eastern Iowa communities mid-Michigan
Starting point is 00:14:57 communities we are extremely proud of the quality balanced journalism that CBS 4 news produces but we are concerned about the trouble and trying to be responsible one-sided news stories plaguing our country the sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media more alarming some media outlets publish the same fake stories without checking facts first. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media. More alarming some media outlets publish the stories that are true without checking facts first. Unfortunately some members of the media use their platforms to push their own
Starting point is 00:15:37 personal bias and agenda to control exactly what people think and this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. It sure is.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Folks, please tell everyone you know it's time to wake up. Those lone voices that are out there that seem like, you know, they're being said that their liars are spreading propaganda. Those are the ones that maybe you want to listen a little bit closer to. I have one coming up. coming up, I said again, in Rob Ruse. This is almost really a bucketless moment. I've loved, we've been sharing his videos and the incredible statements he's made in front of the EU. He's going to talk about this attack on farms that's happening in the Netherlands and all across
Starting point is 00:16:31 Europe and what is really going on with these protests. I'm really looking forward to that. But first, a moment to experience what the news is actually supposed to feel like, and that is the Jackson Report. I'm telling you, you know, Jeffrey, I met a friend of mine that We've had on the show before, great reporter that is in court cases right now. And this reporter is all alone having to fight for themselves being lopped in with Trump cases and all these other cases around it. But it's really, really scary. It's really scary that as a journalist now, and I think Alex Jones, for what anyone thinks
Starting point is 00:17:18 about this, this was our concern, right? It's breaking down that wall that if you can go after a journalist for what their opinion was or who they interviewed or what they said, then we have really turned a very dangerous corner. And if those that are being reported on can bring lawsuits against those reporters simply from having people on. It doesn't even matter that this reporter friend of mine said,
Starting point is 00:17:43 I'm not siding with this. I'm just saying that this is a perspective and we're sharing perspectives. We do that all the time on the show, Jeffrey. You know, we're constantly a part of this ongoing journey. You know, we're trianguling the facts. We're bringing in different points. of you so our audience can see it. We are getting so close to living in a nation where that
Starting point is 00:18:02 could be considered illegal and you and I might find ourselves in a courtroom looking at potential jail time just because of who we interviewed. It really will be the end of everything that is the dream of America. We will then be living in a dystopian world where the government absolutely gets to control every part of the narrative. As the media, as people knew it, have lost the They no longer have narrative control. So there are embedded power centers that are waging lawfare against people presenting certain facts. And that is a fact. And it's unfortunate to see people caught up in this, but in seeing that the public, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:40 as their example out there, the public is to see how far really America has fallen and how far we need to really climb back up to get back to where we once were. So that's really where we start our conversation today is the narrative. narrative control of the media and how they speak to people when they're trying to get points across. And sometimes it's conflicting, sometimes it's even schizophrenic. Check out the Guardian. This is the guardian from several years ago, but it says, want to fight climate change? Have fewer children, carbon footprints. Well, here's that same media, the Guardian, saying this. They just said have fewer children, so you're going to have some population problems. Refugee influx helps halt decline in
Starting point is 00:19:22 Germany's population. Well, was there a decline in the population because they're having fewer children for climate change? I don't know, but it's serious seems like some conflicting conversations. And that really brings us to the continuation of our story from last week. We had Michael Jan on. He was fresh from the Darien Gap. That's the gap between Panama and Columbia.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It's become a staging area by organizations like the United Nations to really bring this influx of a free flow open border immigration into the United States and other countries. over the years here too in the European Union. Governor Abbott stood up against this, 25 state governors stood with him. And as of 2023, there is reported about 2.5 million illegal immigrants have come across into the United States. So this conversation is now being openly reported by very good journalists. And the narrative control is gone. There's a lot of people just going down to these border crossings, whether it now be in San Diego or Arizona, and seeing, you know, these influx is still happening. So when Biden stood up, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:20:25 when Abbott stood up, Biden said, I have a border bill. This is a great border bill. We're going to put it through the Senate. It says everyone needs to really pass this so we can get control of the border. This was the headline here. U.S. Senate unveils $118 billion bill on border security and aid for Ukraine. Well, if you look into the bill, it actually keeps the border open still. It limits the population, it's the crossing. But you look into this. and you see where this money is spent. So at the bottom there, you see $60 billion. This is out of Reuters, by the way.
Starting point is 00:20:53 $60 billion goes to Ukraine for that war. Another $14 billion goes to Israel. And then right in the middle there is about $20 billion for border security. Well, last night something happened to that bill, and this was the headline here, Senate Republicans officially block foreign aid bill with border changes. So when it first came out, it was a border bill. Now it's a foreign aid bill. And now it's just, we need to help Ukraine.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It seems like it just boiled away. Another thing that happened this week was there was an impeachment vote for DHS's head Alejandro Mayorkas. A lot of people have him at the center of this because, well, Homeland Security. And so that vote actually failed and it was directly across party lines. You can see the breakdown here in this article. Blue Democrat, Red Republican, you see about four Republicans went over to the Democrat side. That was the failed impeachment. And from the numbers, you have 214 supported his impeachment.
Starting point is 00:21:49 and 216 said, no way not this time. Yeah. Yeah, very, very close. So expect that to happen again. They might revote on that at some point here. But you know what's interesting, just really quickly. What I think is interesting, you know, whatever anyone thinks about Abbott, it's making the point we're making, right, that this was only like an issue for people on border states. It was the red states, the southern states. They're the only ones that care about the border issue. They're really, we would hear on mainstream news, there really is no issue at all. Then Abbott started sending busloads of people to all the sanctuary cities, busloads of these migrants that are coming across.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And now suddenly it's on the doorstep. Now suddenly New York can't put the kids in school because they have to put migrants in there to keep them warm. And now suddenly the news they never saw because they were living in a propagandized world is on their doorstep. It didn't matter what CNN said anymore. Didn't matter what MSNBC said. They saw the truth of their own eyes.
Starting point is 00:22:44 This is the problem. The news is lying to you. then you're walking around blind. You have no idea that you have a border that is so wide open that an invasion is going on, which is what we got from Michael Yon, and I think I have to agree with him. When you look at these numbers, I think we all know that we are a nation of diversity, that we come from all over the world, but a nation without a border is not a nation at all, and we are being invaded.
Starting point is 00:23:07 This is a serious problem. And we didn't know. Most of us didn't know about it because it wasn't on our doorstep and our news was lying to us. So it's a perfect example. Right. And we're seeing now with citizen journalists, we're seeing even police stations in Chicago, airports in Boston, Chicago actually becoming centers and housing centers for these illegal immigrants. So what we're talking about here is let's go a little deeper because this immigration is not just obviously an American situation. You're seeing this all over the European Union. They're years ahead of us, actually.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And we look to the United Nations because, again, they're there at the Daring Gap helping with this. The United Nations has a document. And in the past, it was actually a conspiracy theory to talk about the word replacement migration, but they actually have a document from the year 2000. It's called the United Nations Population Division Department of Economic and Social Affairs, replacement migration. And if you look in there, they're saying basically they track fertility, they track aging. Because of the loss, basically, of fertility, lower fertility now happening and aging populations,
Starting point is 00:24:10 they write this. The number of migrants needed to offset declines in the working age population are significantly larger than those needed to offset total population decline. Whether those large larger number of migrants are within the realm of options open to governments depends on to a great extent on the social, economic, and political circumstances of the particular country or region. So you're going to need a lot, but as long as your government lets you know if it's okay or not, it goes on, say, maintaining potential support ratios at current levels through replacement migration alone seems out of reach because of the extraordinary large numbers of migrants that would be required.
Starting point is 00:24:45 And they go into some of the challenges, namely this one, policies and programs relating to international migration, in particular replacement migration, and the integration of large numbers of recent migrants and their descendants. So that's one of the issues they're going to face is how do we integrate all of these people all at once? And so... I mean, just for a second, because it's bringing so much reality of this, Jeffrey. You have the U.N. saying the way we deal with the declining population
Starting point is 00:25:09 who are getting sicker and sicker by the day, unable to have children. We're telling we're teaching all the kids don't have kids if you want to save the planet from global warming. Stop having babies. So I have relatives, college students and out of college now, like, I'm never going to have a baby. There's no point bringing them into this world, as though there's some problem in the world. And while we have that deficit, we know we're all going to have serious problems. But now the answer is just open up your borders. This is what the UN's saying. The only issue is there's plenty of immigrants, migrants that can come in and just take care of your nations and take care of this problem. But there's this little pesky issue
Starting point is 00:25:41 of your borders. So if you just opened it wide open. And so here's where you realize what I've been saying. I don't think our nation is being run from inside of our borders. It's that simple. And when you read things like this, a UN charter, which is a globalist system, it's like, oh, that makes sense. That makes sense because nothing I'm watching on television is making any sense. Why the leader of the free world, the United States of America, wouldn't want to hold on to our sovereignty and protect our border? Well, maybe he believes the UN. I mean, and the fact that we shouldn't have a border because we just want to have all these migrants come in and they're the ones that should be working for us. Because God knows they're not going to drive down the value of our jobs or take a lower pay and then make us all compete at a lower level.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And what jobs are going to be there for our teenagers or maybe even the elderly that can't even afford to live in this world? Because inflation is so high. I mean, I know this is it, you know, these are real problems. They're real problems right now. That conversation about replacement migration was not allowed to happen because that, That was a buzzword. You would be called racist. You would be called all types of names are bringing that up. It's right there. But we look to a state, for example, like Maine. They have a new bill. It's HP 1387. And it's literally titled, an act to develop Maine's economy and strengthen its
Starting point is 00:26:57 workforce by establishing an office of new Americans. This is directly out of the UN's document. So read this. Section 1. It says the Office of New Americans is established within the Office of Policy innovation and the future for the purpose of improving the economic and civic integration of immigrants into the state's workforce and communities to strengthen the economy over the long term. The Office of Policy Innovation and the Future shall administer the Office of New Americans. So that's what's going on there. And you're seeing that in several other states as well. This isn't just a phenomenon in one state. It's a coordinated action, which is really interesting across not only, like you said, borderless, the U.S., the European Union and other countries. And it goes
Starting point is 00:27:39 even further here in the U.S., though. Here's Senator Dick Durbin. Take a listen. I've been working on immigration for at least 20 years, maybe more, and I know how difficult the issue is. It's hard to explain in the United States of America, a nation of immigrants, why immigration is such a hot, controversial topic. Virtually everyone in this country is only a generation or two removed from being an immigrant to this country, and yet there's been resistance throughout our history unless we needed cheap labor to build the Transcontinental Railroad when we invited Chinese workers to come in. We treated them unfortunately in an inhumane fashion and didn't give them largely
Starting point is 00:28:21 eligibility to become citizens. But we needed the labor, we needed the workers. It's happened many times before. What troubles me about the debate now about the southern border is it is one-half of the immigration equation. Yes, we need order at the border. Yes, we need to have changes in the laws that reflect the reality of the overwhelming numbers from all over the world who are coming to our shores and our border. But there is also an incredible demand for legal immigration into this country even now. The presiding officer, my colleague from the state of Illinois, has legislation which addresses one aspect to that. Her bill, and I hope I describe it accurately, says that if you're an undocumented person in this
Starting point is 00:29:07 country, and you can pass the physical and the required test, background test, the like. You can serve in our military, and if you do it honorably, we will make you citizens of the United States. Do we need that? Do you know what the recruiting numbers are at the Army and the Navy and the Air Force? They can't reach their quotas each month. They can't find enough people to join our military forces. It's, you mean, we're basically just the fact that statements like that are going out across the airwaves and basically saying, look, we are in here inside of this government working on a way that once you've crossed over here illegally, there's many of us that want to give you a direct path to citizenship. Can you do some push-ups? Are you healthy? You can join our military. You can be joined our, we've got an office for new Americans, you know, opening right now in a state near you. Can you imagine what our borders are going to look like if we keep talking like that? I mean, that's just,
Starting point is 00:30:04 It's pure insanity. It's been documented that some of the people coming over are Russians, our Chinese military. So you're saying if you can get to this country undocumented, we're going to throw a rifle in your hand and you'll be able to be in the strongest force in the world, the strongest military force in the world. It seems kind of dangerous, but I guess that's... Especially, you know, I haven't, you know, saying that honestly, you just sparked a thought in When we think about, you know, this concern of a government ever turning their army against you,
Starting point is 00:30:36 what happens if that army isn't one of you, right? We, I've always thought, you know, that we've watched time and time again, whether it's Russia or China. The military oftentimes stands down in the face of protest that says, I'm not going to kill my own people. But if you start bringing in militants and putting them in your military that never lived here and aren't from here, I don't think they have that problem. I mean, that just really crossed my mind. I hope my team isn't saying Dell. You probably shouldn't have said that.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Just thinking out loud here. The military is, I mean, on that clip, they mentioned the military is having recruiting issues. Well, the last three years have seen major recruiting issues because they push the COVID-19 vaccine on the military. A lot of people aren't joining there. In fact, a lot of the recruitment say you don't have to take the shot anymore. So please, we need recruits. So that's safer than working for Hamas or Hezbollah.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Come on over and join our military. Yeah. So there's other things happening in America right now beyond the immigration conversation, and it's more social and technological. So on a lighter note, Apple just released its Apple Vision Pro. And you can see here by some of this video we're showing, it basically allows your reality, whatever you're seeing, to become your desktop. So you can make a computer screen out of your home, out of your wall there.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You have apps you can grab with your hands. It's kind of a fully interactive experience. The only problem is you have these electrified ski goggles attached to your face the whole time, and that's how you're controlling things and seeing things. But for the people with ADHD, this is probably gonna be really great. But this week, something also happens.
Starting point is 00:32:11 So these have been now put out onto the streets, and it got kind of weird. We're starting to see a new type of human, and it looks like this. You know, I've said before, I don't know how you're ever gonna get those first people to decide to sign up on a rock ship going to Mars like a one-way ticket.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I think they just convinced me I may want to be on one of those rockets. I am not ready to live in that world. That is going to drive me crazy. It's already hard enough to deal with the people that are talking themselves and then you realize, you know, oh, they have earbuds in. Now we're going to watch this going on everywhere we go. People standing in your way like totally, you know, consumed by a video game. They're playing standing in the way of a stairway or an elevator or anything you're trying to do in your normal life.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah. For the people wearing it, forget about situational awareness. Like Apple needs to come out with an app or a setting for like, I'm going to get robbed in a second, so maybe help me out. Right. No one's going to see that coming with those goggles on. So most of us have lived long enough to see this very rapid progression from the handheld devices, even little laptop computers to wearable devices, to now we're in the section
Starting point is 00:34:31 of implantable devices. So you have this tech marching forward trying to get closer and closer to be closer to be more to our bodies and now we're at the point where we first are now injecting it into our bodies. This is Elon Musk tweet from last week. He says, the first human received an implant from at NeuroLink yesterday and is recovering well. The initial results show promising neuron spike detection. So that, according to him on his own platform with his own company, is what he says. So this is a little balance on the other side from the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. They've been tracking NeurLink and also the animal
Starting point is 00:35:05 welfare used at UC Davis in the testing of this. They have a statement on this, this tweeties put out, and they say this, the statement has not been independently verified. It is important to remember that Musk has a long track record of misleading the public about Neurolink's supposed developments. In addition, Neurlink has a well-documented history of conducting unnecessary, sloppy experiments in monkeys, pigs, sheep, and other animals that raise serious concerns by the safety of its device. Past experiments revealed serious safety concerns stemming from the devices invasiveness and rushed actions by company employees. And you can see some of the reporting on this. This is Daily Mail inside Elon Musk's Neurrelink lab where 1,500 animals have been killed and test monkeys were subjected to extreme suffering.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And so there's kind of two sides of this equation here. But if you really want to know what this is, this implantable brain chip, for a complete non-explanation of this, let's look at Neurolinks. promo. All right. It's kind of like a swatch, but we just injected into your brain. With bad club music. With really bad club music. I'm so happy now. Right. So let's do a little bit of a deeper dive into this technology because people are going, wait a minute, we're here. We've been hearing about this for a long time. So in the medical literature and studies on this, You go back to about 1954, and this is one of the studies talking about this type of work when it's talking about implanting things in the brains of living animals.
Starting point is 00:37:26 So it says just over 50 years ago, psychologist James Olds and Peter Milner worked at McGill University in Canada, working at McGill University in Canada, carried out their pioneering experiments, which discovered that rats would repeatedly press levers to receive tiny jolts of current injected through electrodes implanted deep within their brains. Well, that sounds interesting. They're trying to find the pleasure centers of the brain, and they apparently found them pioneering work. But it was interesting what was happening at McGill University at that time.
Starting point is 00:37:58 This is out of the McGill Tribune. This is in Montreal, and it says this, the title, Declassified Mind Control at McGill University. What do they say about that? They say this, Project MK Ultra, the Central Intelligence Agency, CIA mind control project used unconsenting patients to test the effects of sensory deprivation, LSD, electroshock therapy, and other methods of controlling the human psyche. Although it may sound like something out of a dystopian sci-fi novel, these experiments were conducted at McGill with
Starting point is 00:38:26 devastating effects on the patients involved. It consists of 144 different sub-projects, that's MK Ultra, related to the control of human behavior, which were carried out in 89 different institutions, including universities. So these are CIA experiments. conducted on Americans and Canadian citizens. And some of these documents, most of them have been destroyed, but they became public in the 70s. And this is one of these unclassified documents. This is Project MK Ultra, Subproject 94.
Starting point is 00:38:56 I believe this was from 1959. Listen to what they were working with here. Right alongside universities, like McGill University, it says the purpose of this sub-project is to provide a continuation of activities in selected species of animals, Miniaturized stimulating electrode implants in specific brain centers will be utilized. And it also goes on to say in this document, initial biological work on technique and brain locations essential to providing conditioning and control of animals has been completed.
Starting point is 00:39:24 So again, it's all about control when it comes into these documents and the military. Well, at the same time, the Frank Church had his church committee. This was a 16-month investigation in America. It was very public. This was at a very public. This was, actually a historical committee. And you can see the document here in 1977, joint committee. They looked at all types of the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, and the work they were doing covertly against American people.
Starting point is 00:39:52 This led to a lot of oversight and a lot of really big aha moments of what the US government was doing behind the scenes. And so at that point, you had this like unconsenting experimentation on American people with this type of experiment, kind of went a little bit underground. You didn't hear much about this stuff. And then in around 2000, it really starts to pop onto the scene. And here's 2014 headline DARPA program to develop brain implants for mental disorders.
Starting point is 00:40:21 So you remember DARPA is the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency. That's DOD. DARPA actually had the diffuse project. That was Ralph Barrack. He submitted that project. So again, you have these military underpinnings working with this implantable technology. But then 2015 comes along and Wired Magazine does a great article. here, it said, what will personal computers look like in 20 years time? And they interviewed a couple
Starting point is 00:40:43 people. One of them was Adam Adizinski. He's a British professor of computer science. And he says this, remember 20 years at that time of the 2035. He says personal computing will become intrapersonal and intracellular. Each human neuron will be hijacked by a self-growing, self-reparrying, molecular network. Computers will be networks of polymer filaments growing inside and together with a human. Seeds of the networks will be injected into embryos in the first month of their development. Like, where's this guy getting this stuff? They will form a gigantic network inside the brain. Computers will be inside us.
Starting point is 00:41:16 They will span all living creatures in United Computing Network. Now, these aren't just like postgraduate people that had some crazy ideas. These are the luminaries working in this field at that time. And it's not just one or two of them. Here's another guy. Charles Lieber, he's one of the top people working with this type of tech. at that time. He says same kind of vibe. Personal computing will become very, very personal. Currently, our interface is through the peripheral nervous system, input by touch and voice,
Starting point is 00:41:45 output to eyes and ears. In a very personal future, we will work directly from our brains, integrating 3D nano electronics with our neural networks. We have already created the blueprint for innovative or cyborg tissue and recently shown how electronics can be injected and intermingled with the brain. So you've got a lot of brain activity. They really really, really are targeting this brain from MK Ultra all the way to present day, all the way to must implant. And a quick side note there, Charles Lieber had his own research group at Harvard University. And for about 10 years, he received around $15 million from agencies like NIH, DOD. And this is the headline just recently for good old Charles Lieber. In Boston court,
Starting point is 00:42:29 a superstar of science falls to earth. It was found out that he was also working as a what was called a strategic scientist for the Wuhan University of Technology, basically providing them some of this tech. And he was also a contractual participant to what was called the China's Thousand Talents Program. So he was sharing this tech with China. So there's clearly a first mover advantage that people are racing. Countries and governments are racing to try to get to this future that they're talking about
Starting point is 00:42:58 here. And one of the people that really has talked about this potential future is Ray Kurzweil. You may know him. He's written several books on this. This is his main focus. One of the essays he wrote in a book titled The Scientific Conquest of Death, he writes this. By 2030, six years from now, electronics will utilize molecular-sized circuits. The reverse engineering of the human brain will have been completed. It will be routine practice to have billions of nanobots, nanosized robots, coursing through the capillaries of our brains. There it is again, communicating with each other over a wireless local
Starting point is 00:43:33 area network as well as with our biological neurons and with the internet. One application will be to provide full immersion virtual reality and encompass all of our senses. I mean, this is, again, the reason we're reading this, reason we're showing this is you have the people that see Elon Musk and you see this, you know, kind of upbeat disco dance promo video and they're going to help someone walk. They're going to help someone see. Okay, great. That sounds like great technology. But behind the scenes the people that have been developing this for 30 years plus military these people saying we want it course you have millions coursing through your brain every capillary is going to have a local area network connected to the Bluetooth I mean these these is very interesting and so yeah you get to this point
Starting point is 00:44:19 is how are they going to do this how are they going to start testing that type of technology right and you have you have a professor of ethics here and he wrote this this is just throwing out there in this whole mix he says this titled a modest proposal for suicide as a facilitator of transhumanism. Now, transhumanism, remember, is the merger of man and machine. It's which Klaus Schwab gets really excited about because he thinks we're here now. And this ethics professor writes this. Perhaps the most potent argument against suicide in modern secular societies is that it constitutes wastage of the agent's own life. However, the force of this argument could be mitigated if the suicide occurred in the context of experimentation,
Starting point is 00:45:01 including self-experimentation. But as long as research ethics codes for human subjects continue to dwell in the shadow of the Nuremberg trials, a very high bar will be set on what counts as informed consent. Nowadays, more than 70 years after the defeat of Nazi Germany, the only obvious reason for such a high bar is the insurance premiums that universities and other research institutes would need to bear if they liberalize the terms
Starting point is 00:45:27 of which subjects could offer themselves in service of a risky and, enhancement research. I mean, I've never heard the Nuremberg be talked about like that. The Nuremberg trials or the code that came out of that. And that code was meant to protect people. And here we are so many decades later with people and professors and ethicists saying, well, we can maybe tinker with this a little bit. Because we have this really fancy new technology we need to start testing on people. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's amazing. If you think obviously informed consent is the heart of our nonprofits name, the informing consent action network. this is something that is alarming to us.
Starting point is 00:46:03 And we've watched it. I've said the vaccine program is already flying in the face of informed consent. You're not giving consent. When you force someone to get a vaccine or they can't go to work or they can't go to school, that's coercion. That's against the Nuremberg Code. So it's already under attack, but I can already see the ads. Considering committing suicide, well, why do you try NeuroLink? We need experiments and we need people.
Starting point is 00:46:28 And if you're going to die anyway, come on over. Maybe we'll pay your family. I mean, it's an amazing concept, right? And you see where it's coming from. How are you going to try these technologies on people? Because, I mean, here will be the argument, right? Well, you have to be sane to sign off on this consent. And who's sane would sign off on consenting to have something put in your brain that is probably,
Starting point is 00:46:50 and let's be honest, it's going to be like pong, right? I mean, I don't know who would be the first one signing up. You're getting like the first version of this. I mean, if you want pong in your brain, that's what you're about to get, I'm sure. I think I'll wait till we're like at mortal combat level and then let's talk, you know. Right. And so at the same time, these conversations are happening, the FDA, just two months ago, released this final rule on informed consent.
Starting point is 00:47:16 This is the Federal Register, FDA, HHS, final rule. It says the final rule permits an institutional review board, IRB, to waive or alter certain informed consent elements or to waive the requirement to obtain informed consent under limited conditions for certain FDA regulated minimal risk clinical investigations. So let's pause for a second because the inventor of the MRNA technology, one of them won the Nobel Prize, said everything in this vaccine is totally natural. It's all part of what you have in your body. There's lipid nanoparticles and some MRN. That would probably be minimal risk at the beginning of this conversation. So who decides minimal risk in this future we're going into this possible dystopian
Starting point is 00:47:58 future. This is a very interesting space for the FDA and institutional review boards to have. And this is a conversation because on the other side of this, because the tech community and the medical community are almost indistinguishable at this point because they're merging this. And on the other side of that wall that's being held back by informed consent and rational people in medicine are people that look and sound like this. Take a listen. The singularity I put in 2045, At that point, the non-biological intelligence that we create that year will be about a billion times greater than all biological human intelligence. There are a growing number, maybe a few hundred people, who are seeing the writing on the wall, that these technologies are coming this century.
Starting point is 00:48:50 And they will allow humanity, if we, you know, as human beings, as a species, if we choose, and it's a critical concept, if we choose, we could build godlike, massively intelligent machines with capacities, oh God, trillions of trillions of times above ours. In my mind, it's definitely going beyond biology, but I don't define human as just biological. I mean, we're already taking steps beyond biology. There's not a single organ in the human body, including regions of the brain. we are not already creating substitutes or extensions or augmentations. So if somebody has an artificial pancreas, are they not human?
Starting point is 00:49:36 If they have a neural implant in their brain, are they not human? How about two neural implants? So maybe you can have up to 10, then you're human, but 11, you're not human anymore. If you have these nanobots, blood cell size robots in the brain that actually have computers interacting with your biological neurons, is that still a human? Well, one nanobots, probably okay. How about 500 million nanobots? are going to become God's period. If you don't like it, get off. You don't have to contribute,
Starting point is 00:50:06 you don't have to participate. If you're going to interfere with me becoming God, you're going to have big trouble and we'll have warfare. Wow, some real light, beautiful ideas there. You know, Jeffrey, this is a topic that I'm trying to, I'm trying to, to be more, I guess, mature about it a little bit because there's a part of me that now says, I mean, obviously we want to push back against any atrocity against human beings. We want to make sure that nobody, that everybody has a right to live the life to the pursuit of happiness, right? The American dream.
Starting point is 00:50:48 But when I think about this, you know, do we just push back completely? Because I can't think of a single technology through the years that every generation worried about and said this is going to be the end of us that stopped. Did we stop any technology advancement ever? And I just can't imagine this one's going to stop either. There's going to be people putting computers in their brains. And I guess, you know, and I guess, you know, in some ways, when we put all of our energy on saying stop and screaming and reporting, which is what we're doing right now, certainly stop and think about it a minute, you know, are we wasting the time we should have been using to get involved with these technologies and make sure that maybe there's good that can be done.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You know, maybe people that are in wheelchairs can walk and there's so many great applications. But if all the good people are trying to stop it and the bad people are trying to become gods, then that's how we watch these technologies then just get used for harm. And maybe somehow, some way we've got to figure out how to embrace the advancements that are happening, create freedom so that you don't have to do it if you don't want. But when I look at this, if I look at people, I think a lot about it. Ironically, I talked about Alex Jones earlier in the show. But one of the things he said during that interview that has stuck with me is he said about Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Elon Musk would sort of be the perfect example of the Illuminati. And that's these people that actually believe they are trying to save humanity. They're worried, he said, if I'm paraphrasing, but they're so worried about the AI technology takeover, the computer takeover of the world that they believe human beings to the fight for humanity, we've got to create superhumans by meshing them with their technology so they can fight for humanity against that just pure technology and that the illuminate, like they're fighting for humanity. So it's a really wild concept. And I'm, you know, I know we're on the fence. Every time we're going to bring up Elon Musk, we're having a debate, you know, about where he's really at.
Starting point is 00:52:51 But I think, you know, there's people that sit in the gym, you know, six, seven hours a day that can lift a thousand pounds. I can't lift a thousand pounds. Now, are they more to advance in some way? Sure. Well, there's a situation where you need to lift a thousand pounds. There's someone that's going to do that better than I am. Or, you know, there's people at higher learning institutions that spend, you know, years and years just pushing their brain to the max and, you know, getting into sciences and maths or things that maybe I'm not doing. Is this really any different?
Starting point is 00:53:19 What happens in a world where someone plants a chip and they want to be on the internet and using, you know, some chat GPT all the time? Does that really affect me? Or is it going to just be different parts of society? Natural ones, ones that consider themselves advanced? I don't know. I mean, it just, but it doesn't look like a beautiful future, I guess, is what bothers us, right? Yeah. And I think about, you're mentioning other technologies you can't think of.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I'm thinking about the nuclear bomb. I mean, that's the only thing that I could see where that was a runaway program that was developed in secret, then kind of rolled out to the public in a really shocking way during World War II. No. But eventually, I mean, the testing, you can go back and look at the testing what is done to the environment. But that eventually, humanity got together and said, look, these crazy scientists in the corner of this, in the corner of this segment of population need to kind of stop what we're doing. We need to make some laws around this.
Starting point is 00:54:16 We need to make some treaties around this. But with this type of technology, I mean, we're reporting on it so people get a different view because obviously they're seeing it's going to give sight to the blind. It's very godlike. I mean, it's so you got to understand what you're really signing up for because they're asking for volunteers now for this from the public. So you really got to understand like this is, this is the infancy of this program and look at the intertwined way it's been working with the military for so long and there's a lot of people. The big issue I have with this is,
Starting point is 00:54:48 the luminaries in this space are talking about crunching data, talking about intelligence, talking about God. God has empathy. God has consciousness. God has morality. I don't hear any of them talking about that. The last guy you just, Robert Seed said, I'm going to go to war with you if you don't basically take the chips I have because I'm going to be a God. These aren't the type of people. These are the type of early people you saw on the nuclear program saying, I am death, the destroyer of worlds. You don't want these, that's my concern with this, is you see that type of mentality creating this. Now, if they make a chip for empathy and consciousness and things like that, then let's have a conversation. But right now we're talking, what are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:55:31 What's intelligence to one person may not be to another person? Well, look, I think my point is I hope someone is making that chip for empathy and human connection. You know, God knows we can use more of that in this world. Hopefully we learn to find that in ourselves and start talking to each other, start communicating. Part of, you know, I think the need for this is, you know, the media, as we've said earlier, is just tearing us apart. You know, when we see how they talk to us, when they see how little they trust us, when, you know, that is why this is all going where it's at, that we are just too stupid to take
Starting point is 00:56:03 care of ourselves. Really important reporting. And, you know, I really love these conversations. We're going to have more of them. Jeffrey, thank you for your work. It's really a pleasure working with you. and your attention to detail and transparency is why we're all here. And thank you for giving us a breath of fresh air, reminding us what the news is supposed to look like.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I'll see you next to me. You're very welcome. Thanks, Tom. Take care. Well, I just got breaking news, actually. Aaron, Siri, the attorney for ICANN, contacted me, and he said, it is official. The CDC has given up the fight to try and appeal the V-safe open box data. This is what, you know, we had originally won the V-Safe data.
Starting point is 00:56:48 That's the 10 million people that signed up for that app that they used when they got the COVID vaccine. We, of course, built the whole dashboard around that app. But all we had received was just the sort of check the box data. I have reported on this extensively, so I won't get into details. But that was just headache and joint pain and things like that. We really wanted this open text field, which is where you're going to find the myocarditis, the anaphylaxis, the, you know, help, I need help. CDC, where are you?
Starting point is 00:57:20 We've read some of the open text fields that have been sent to the law firm. Well, it's official. As of this morning, the CDC has decided it is not going to appeal. We're going to start putting all of the open text fields that are coming into Aaron Syrian Glybstad from that legal win on our website. In about 10 days, my understanding is we're going to get the first tranche of over three. 300,000 open text boxes. Now, I want to appeal to you for a second.
Starting point is 00:57:49 That's a lot. That is like handwritten text. There's no sort of computer algorithm. It's not just a bunch of codes. We're actually going to have to, you know, go through that information, figure out how to build a database that you can search and everyone in the world can search so that we can start really doing studies using this information. This is going to be a groundbreaking moment and we don't want it to take five years, right?
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Starting point is 00:59:35 and you can click on it and immediately become a part of the informed consent action network. Informed consent is under attack. I guess in some ways we prophetically decided to name ourselves that, thinking that this was going to be a big issue in our future. So help us fight for your future. That's what my next guest is doing. One of those individuals that is so courageous, it does not matter that the political system seems to be totally against him.
Starting point is 01:00:04 It doesn't matter what's going on. you know, out there in the world. He cares about the people. He cares about the farmers. And what are the farmers doing in Europe? Well, if you haven't been paying attention, this is what that looks like. Tempers are flaring in France. Unruly scenes outside the European Parliament today. Farmers burning tires, spraying government buildings with manure and shutting down roads leading it to Paris. Farmers from across Europe have been throwing eggs and stones at the Parliament building. Miles of tractors are blocking lanes or entire sections of motorway as they try to inch closer to the capital. We are seeing the biggest political strikes and labour demonstrations for a very long time.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Farmers are campaigning against cheap imports, red tape, high production costs, price pressures from retailers and the impact on their sector of climate change policies. We can't earn a living. We're subject to enormous constraints and there are products coming in for. from outside Europe that compete with us without having to apply the same rules that we're obligated to in order to produce. Why is it that we tell a European farmer that he cannot produce like this, but we allow food products to enter the European market, which cost less? The movement is spreading now across Europe to neighboring countries. Brussels to Greece to Portugal, farmers erupting in protests across the continent.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Germany and in France and Holland, Romania, even in Switzerland. Italian farmers have also been joining the Europe wide. protest movement. We are asking the leaders to review their laws. They talk about being greener, but if that happens, then there will be land which isn't worked anymore and it's difficult enough as it is. These strikes are fueling this narrative that governments across Europe and the EU don't care enough about the issues surrounding these farmers.
Starting point is 01:01:53 We want to show that we still matter. They must listen to us. We will go on indefinitely until we reach our goals. We've been really reporting on this extensive. I mean, this is attack on the food supply. When you look at the Netherlands, I mean, that is, you know, the garden country, right? They make food. I mean, I think we get tulips still from them.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I'm just amazing growers. And the center of that is MP Robert Ruse, Rob Ruse, who has really been fighting all the craziness. We've talked about him throughout COVID, standing up against the vaccine and making demands in parliament. Well, he stood before Parliament to talk about this issue of farmers. He's literally fighting for the people. This is what that looks like. Over all in Europe, there are boers in protest.
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Starting point is 01:03:43 Stop the boorin the work onmogulic to make. We have our boorerer key hard notic. Foodseekrity is also a question of national No farmers, no food, no future. Well, it's my honor and pleasure to be joined by Dutch. Member of Parliament, Rob Bruce now.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Rob, first of all, we've been big fans for some time here in America on the high wire, so thank you for taking the time to join us. It's my pleasure. It's very nice to be with you. Okay. You know, here in America, we are not getting a lot of news about what these farm protests are. We get quick glimpses of tractors surrounding parliament buildings, you know, people throwing eggs. At times, it seems very volatile. What is at the heart, at least for Dutch farmers, and when we think of Holland, we think of probably the greatest farming nation in the world. What is at the heart of the issues that the farmers are having?
Starting point is 01:04:43 Well, the things are different in the member states in Europe. But the problem is everywhere the same. They, the global elites, they grow up in the cities and they want us to change our complete life. They want us to stop to eat meat. They want to have us electric cars. They want us to have heat pumps. Everything we have done so far is wrong and they are changing our lives. It's a kind of social engineering.
Starting point is 01:05:21 And yeah, it's implemented by the Green Deal of French Timmermans. But these farmer protests started in the Netherlands. We, the Netherlands is after the United States, the second largest food producer in the world. We, the Netherlands is 19 times smaller than Texas, so we are a very small country. But that proves how efficient our farmers are. And it started in the Netherlands because we have a huge agriculture,
Starting point is 01:05:50 agriculture industry. And now it's all over Europe in Poland, in Leibland, in Greece, in Spain, Italy, France, Belgium. All the farmers are coming in protest. And that is because of EU law. And this is really the problem, the Green Deal. I know sometime back we were watching the attempt to cut back on nitrogen fertilizers. I know in the Netherlands, they're looking at being next to natural spaces and then Farms look like they're being shut down at times to make way for green, I guess, you know, green environmental spaces. And so, and we've seen this pressure in Sri Lanka. We saw how a change in farming just destroyed a people.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Even, you know, farmers committing suicide because they're not being given the tools to do the farming that they've done for their entire lives. So, you know, when you talk about the global elites, does this, you know, and, you know, we see the meat eating is going away. But what is so shocking for me is they've turned from meat eating now into vegetables and fruits and things like that, that now it just appears that all natural food is under attack. How do we make sense of that? Yes, you mentioned Sri Lanka, and that's correct. that's the ESG, the environmental social government. Sri Lanka, they scored a 98.1 on the E of ESG. And for example, the United States was at 57%, something like that.
Starting point is 01:07:35 So they did a perfect job. They had a tremendous score on the E of ESG. But it was chaos. The people didn't have any food anymore. So this is what is going to happen. The president said at that time, I'm going to make my country wealthy, but he turned them into chaos. And this is now happening everywhere. It's just not in Europe.
Starting point is 01:07:59 It's also happening in the United States. It's the UN 2030 agenda. And people have to change lives. And they abuse climate to create this socialist agenda. It's bigger than that. So how is the pressure? America, we're having an issue where we have a lot of corporate influence now in our government. It's one of the big regulatory capture is sort of taking over our government. So I see how the
Starting point is 01:08:30 pressures are coming in there. But in Europe, I don't know how the systems actually work. But how does the WEF and the World Health Organization, how do these organizations have power over nations like yours? What is it? Are they using World Bank to bring pressure? Like what pressure because it just seems so outside of the reality. It seems like we are watching politicians work against the best interest of their own people, of their own citizens, of their own economies. What type of pressure is being used to make, you know, nations go against their own best interests? Yeah, it's, they use fear. They use fear. If you, it's really shocking to see how they create fear amongst our children with this climate issue.
Starting point is 01:09:21 The Greater Turnburg is used to confuse the young people. It's really confusing. These people are really depressed, these young people. And we also saw that with COVID. They also used fear to turn the people in their way they wanted to go them. And this is, yeah, this is the problem. even the politicians going to the WAF. And I call that network corruption, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:53 because the politicians are going there, they are with the big corporates, they are in politics right now, but they are very busy taking care of their own career, of their own future. And as a politician, you should be humble and you should serve the people, that is your main task. We have a mandate from the people to make
Starting point is 01:10:14 to make their lives better but instead they they serve the big corporates and that's not helping the people and the European Union was meant to make the economics better and we did a good job but what we see now is with this socialist agenda agenda 2030 they pushed a real socialist agenda maybe it's even communist and yeah it's it's really not helping the people and That's what I'm fighting against. Here in America, one of the concerns that's happening is there seems to be a divide created between our education system, our university systems are really pushing more of a socialist agenda.
Starting point is 01:10:59 You brought up Greta Thurnberg, you know, the youth of America starting to celebrate an idea of communism at many times, you know, to the point where some politicians saying we need to start re-educate, we need to get involved in the educational process to remind people how ugly communism can be. Are you having a similar, you know, tear in your society between the young people in the Netherlands and the older people? Are the youth thinking that it's a good idea to shut down farming? I mean, what's happening inside the population of your country right now? Yeah, that's also a globalist agenda. You see that in the United States and you see it also in Europe it's actually it's a problem of the West our children are being
Starting point is 01:11:47 indoctrinated that they should not eat meat that the climate is the most important thing in the world of course they're even being told here not to have kids like don't have children like you you want to save the planet don't have children but but this is exactly what they are doing they go against family values they go against natural food, they go against freedom, because if you have to buy an electric car, they are maybe twice expensive, and people cannot buy that. So it's not about the car, it's about you cannot go anywhere. You depend on public traffic. It's taking away your freedom. It's also digitalization. What we see is the digital identity and central bank digital currency. It's really a new way
Starting point is 01:12:40 a new form of communism about central planning, about controlling people. If you want to control the people, you have to control the CO2 because everything we do in life, breathing, living, traveling, eating, everything we do in life leads to CO2 emissions. And if you can control the CO2, you can control the people. And if you then have the digital identity connected to the central bank digital currency, which they say we will not connect that. No, not in the first year, maybe not in the second year. But after five years, they say, okay, it's now so bad with the climate.
Starting point is 01:13:17 We have to create this climate budget, this CO2 budget. And then we have chinification. So much of this sort of was really fast track during COVID. We know the WEF used that opportunity to call it the Great Reset. You have one of my favorite moments in this entire COVID discussion. when you finally got to, you know, ask questions with one of the heads of Pfizer. Let's just revisit that very quickly for a moment. Take a look at this. Was the Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered
Starting point is 01:13:56 the market. If not, please say it clearly. If yes, are you willing to share the data with this committee? And I really want straight answer. Yes or no, and I'm looking forward to it. Thank you very much. Regarding the question around, did we know about stopping humanization before it's entered the market? No. These, you know, we had to really move at the speed of science
Starting point is 01:14:24 to really understand what is taking place in the market. And from that point of view, we had to do everything at risk. So in there, you know, you've got one of the heads of Pfizer saying, you know, we were moving at the speed of science. Obviously, that is a terrible answer. To find out that we shut down the world waiting for this vaccine, they basically use guilt on everybody. If you don't use this product, you're putting everyone else at risk. You know, so we now know that they had never even tested to see if it protected people outside of you, never tested to see if it could stop transmission. Of course, we've seen this vaccine fail, people getting five, six doses.
Starting point is 01:15:06 are getting COVID two, three, four times. And then, you know, there's the side effects. We're watching excess mortality across the world. Here in America last year, just in the first nine months, we had 150,000 people die above the sort of average rate we saw prior to COVID, which means no COVID, something's killing these people. How big, you know, how much of that conversation is starting to sink in? I'm seeing some testimonies about excess mortality.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I'm seeing a few news programs ask the question once in a while. Do you think this is something we still need to stay focused on over in Europe? Because here I think that it's still a critical issue to get to the bottom of what happened during COVID, because it's how they have sort of taken control of the world in many ways. Yeah, this is exactly what also is going on right now in Europe. I wrote a big article in the biggest newspaper here in the Netherlands that we, I missed the reflection on the political decisions. Because what Janine Small admitted to me during this COVID meeting, actually we already knew, we saw Omicron, everyone who was vaccinated, they were the first ones who were infected again. So for me, it was not a surprise, but it was a surprise that she gave me an honest answer.
Starting point is 01:16:38 But the real problem is, the real problem is that our governments knew that this vaccine was not tested to prevent the spread of the virus. And still, they were pushing this vaccine to all the people, but even to young children, six years and younger, because you have to protect your grandfather and your grandmother and this people should be held accountable including Dr. Fauci it was horrible small businesses collapsed young people they had a problem with education usually if you live in a small apartment with three children and you have only one laptop these children how can they we have a huge problem with education at this moment and it was terrible and there is still no reflection on what's going on.
Starting point is 01:17:35 And this excess mortality, I'm not a medical doctor. I'm my background. I'm actually an entrepreneur, an electrical engineer, but I can read data. I spoke to doctors and they said, if you look at the countries with the lowest rate of taking the vaccine, these countries have also lower extra mortality. So, well, there is something,
Starting point is 01:18:01 that should really be investigated. And I'm sure this administration of Biden will not do it. You've been sort of at the forefront of many of these issues now. You are pushing back against this global agenda. Are you surrounded with other politicians in the Netherlands that agree with you? Are you a bit of a lone wolf? I mean, what is the climate right now? Yeah, well, the politics in Europe is so much different than in the United States.
Starting point is 01:18:36 In the United States, you have many people in politics that were already successful, because if you want to run for office, you need quite a lot of money. In Europe, it's different. We have what I call a party. You have to be a member of a party, and they have to put you on the list. So it's more about loyalty than it's about quality. And unfortunately, in the Netherlands, I'm actually the only one. They attacked me for, I was an anti-fax.
Starting point is 01:19:10 I was a climate denier. They give me a lot of names, but I don't care. Actually, I'm an entrepreneur. I was a businessman. I'm still a businessman. But I went into politics to fight for my country and to fight for freedom because I have children and probably grand. children in the near future and I want them to grow up as free people and this is really a problem
Starting point is 01:19:36 in Europe we have in the European Parliament we have we have people they have never worked a single day in in the private sector that's absolutely not worked for their own risk and their own money so yeah this this is uh yeah call me a lone wolf we are maybe with seven six in the European Parliament exist of 750 members of the European Parliament. And maybe, let's say maybe 10 are fighting for freedom. It's not much, fortunately. Wow, that's incredible. But you are one of the ones now standing up,
Starting point is 01:20:12 when we see these giant protest. You must be getting a lot of support from farmers and people that are waking up. I mean, that's a huge wave of energy to be behind just a very small group of people. Is it giving you a little bit? of fortitude and power in the situation? Yes, of course they attacked me.
Starting point is 01:20:34 I'm far right. And I'd say, well, so far I'm right. And no, it's really, I knew I was right. That's, and, you know, and I really can say that is, if everyone in the world was like me, the world would really be a better place. Because I'm not only taking care of the people who are conservatives, I also want to make the liberal
Starting point is 01:20:57 the liberal people's lives better. I'm fighting for everyone's freedom. And but of course what we what do I see now is all these farmers coming up and also I I'm actually I'm an expert in energy and I predict that's why I went into politics because I predicted all this energy problems that we have in Europe. We cannot do this transition and and also over there it's becoming very clear that I was right. Now we see nuclear plants growing everywhere. I was advocating for nuclear energy instead of this crazy wind turbines and solar panels because we cannot control it. So yes, on every topic they give me names, but now they have to admit, yeah, we give you names,
Starting point is 01:21:49 but actually you you had the right point. The energy is such a big thing. The green energy here in America, they want to switch to electric cars. I think the goal of the Biden administration is something like 60% electric cars by 2030. We already have our electrical grid is failing during hot days and cold days. It's hard to imagine what we're going to do if all the cars are trying to power off of that. All of these things, it just seems like the world is being run by children who have a dream of some ideal, but no actual way to deliver it and putting us really in harm's way.
Starting point is 01:22:31 I think we're facing famine. We're seeing people die during, you know, not having, you know, heating in cold times. And I think even in Europe, there was, I think in Germany, they were having to, like, open up churches and libraries so people could stay warm. It feels like we're going back into the dark ages when it comes to technology, something you know so much about. I know you've got to get running and I'm really happy you're talking. took the time. What is your advice to America? I mean, I think in many ways our nation, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:03 can lead, has the ability to lead, and we sort of have this rebellious streak inside of us. I think there's a bigger uprising in many ways happening inside of our population. More, you know, more than 30 percent rejected the vaccine here. Only, I think, less than 10 percent are getting the boosters now. I feel like there's, I feel like we're waking up. But it's, you know, If we wake up, what is it we need to do with our understanding? Well, first of all, I hope that the Republicans can be united and whoever the president, candidate will be, that they all support him, because the Democrats are, yeah,
Starting point is 01:23:45 we call them liberals, but we should stop calling them liberals, because they are the anti-liberals. And the Republicans, that is my only hope, also here in Europe, we see a really, a big shift in the Netherlands. We have Gildwilders who won the elections with a landslide. In Greece, in France, there, Mergin-Mapan is leading the polls. And also in Italy, in all the European nation states, we see the conservatives are coming up. So there is hope. First of all, we should take back the educational system, teach our children how to read and how to write and stop
Starting point is 01:24:26 all this gender policy, this crazy gender policy. We have only a man and a woman, and for the rest it's just imagination. Then we should also take over the institutions because I think what we did wrong as classic liberals or conservatives, we said, okay, you can have the education, you can have the culture, let us do the economy, but that was a huge mistake.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Culture is very important. We see Netflix is changing people's lives. And so take back the education system and take back to culture and also do the economy. But we have a lot of work to do. Do you think protests are helpful? Do you agree? I mean, do you think that farmers surrounding places of, you know, parliament and here in America is protesting the right to gather and make your voice known, does that have a value or do you think it undermines the goal?
Starting point is 01:25:22 No, no, no, we should speak out. And that's the problem. People are captured in the system. If you speak out, we saw that during COVID. People were cancelled. And they have to make a living. That is really a problem. But if everyone starts speaking out, if we achieve the critical threshold, then everyone has the guts to do it. But speaking out, freedom of speech is so, that's why I'm very happy with Elon Musk X, and he's also under attack here in Europe. but I will defend them also. We have to speak out, we have to fight for freedom, and the more people are speaking out,
Starting point is 01:26:06 it makes it more easier, because we see the big farmers protest, they already achieved the first results. The European Commission, they withdraw all kinds of new regulations. So, no, it really makes a difference. And we should say, you went too far already, so stop it right now and then taking back our freedom.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Fantastic. Well, Rob, I really appreciate you taking the time. I hope you'll keep us informed of all of your progress out there. Our prayers are with you. You really are a hero in this time. I know you're outnumbered out there, but I just want you to know just here on the highwire, millions of people are watching you through our show.
Starting point is 01:26:51 We've been showing your great, testimonies in front of Parliament. So keep up the work, it truly is important. I really think the future of this world, of our children, of our species, is hanging in the balance, and it's people like you that are really making a difference. So it's really an honor to have this opportunity
Starting point is 01:27:11 to spend with you today. Thank you for taking the time. It was my pleasure, and within two weeks, I come to the US, I will speak also at CPAC. So it's always a pleasure to be in the United States. All right, well, we'll see you there. Take care. Thank you so much. Bye-bye. Well, you know, I can. As you can tell, our show is getting more diverse. We're starting to cover more and more topics because all of it affects you and your life.
Starting point is 01:27:39 We're also doing the same thing with our legal team. We're saying, look, there's a lot of issues here in America, but around the world there's issues. So this is a legal update of something that we've done in the world. On behalf of ICANN, we not only submit FOIA requests and lawsuits and take legal action in the United States with regards to vaccines. We also do so in other countries. And in this instance, we made a legal demand on the United Kingdom's equivalent of the FDA for information regarding the AstraZeneca vaccine, not a vaccine licensed in the U.S. In the United Kingdom, they have a law similar to the Freedom of Information Act in the United States. And it was using that same law that we're very pleased to announce that we've gotten a significant amount of safety data
Starting point is 01:28:31 regarding the AstraZeneca vaccine. A legal aid date has come out and you could read some of the quotes from that as well as a summation of the information, which is very troubling and should have been disclosed to the public long ago. And I think that to those who've received the vaccines will be very interested to see what their health authorities had their hands on, data that they had in their present. And what AstraZeneca appears have been telling them while they were getting their shots in that country. The Oxford jab is safe. ICANN has told us their mission is not only limited to the United States, it is seeking to assure the right and informed consent, that basic civil freedom for everybody across the globe. One of the main goals and one of the most important parts of informed consent, which is at the heart of our name, the informed consent action network, is transparency. the ability to see the science to actually know what's going on so that we can be informed.
Starting point is 01:29:38 And a lot of the work that we've been doing have been paying attention, getting the Pfizer data. Remember, the FDA was pushing back and saying, oh, it's going to take us 75 years before we can let the population of America see what happened in the Pfizer trials. Well, we won in court, and we forced them to provide all that data within one year. The same with Moderna, and then all the studies on children. Now we are getting the data to AstraZeneca so people around the world that got that vaccine can look at it. And more than just look at it, now scientists around the world that are not owned by the pharmaceutical industry, but all around the world can now have access to this data and start looking into it, doing their own trials, their own investigations, so we can get unbiased facts around what took place.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Here in America, Tony Fauci was saying, anybody that questions me, questions, science, as though he was science. And now in congressional hearings, he's admitting, well, yeah, I mean, you know, the social distancing thing, six feet that, you know, basically destroyed our economy, kept you from being able to be near each other. The reason we had to shut down stores, it kind of just appeared, had no basis in science. We know that he flipped-bopped on masks, and we've looked at masks, and there's no way that a mask has a tight enough mesh to stop COVID from moving through it. And now the vaccine, as we've just pointed out, Rob Rousse so perfectly pointed out, they were lied to. They said it would stop transmission,
Starting point is 01:31:06 and they literally took away our jobs if we didn't get it around the world, forcing children just so they could protect grandma and grandpa. And as he so brilliantly discovered through that question, did you test for transmission in the trials? No, we were moving at the speed of science. Makes you wonder what that word science actually means to these people now. All of this I'm saying because we are doing a very difficult and important work here at ICANN and the high wire. You can't imagine actually how much attack we are under on a constant paces. We're being censored. When you look at the Amazon files, when you look at the Twitter files, who do you think is at the center of that?
Starting point is 01:31:50 We are. We are trying to get this word out there. We are trying to get science done. We are under investigation all the time. They are shutting down our YouTube channel. our Facebook channel, and we keep building technologies to figure out how to beat them at their own games so that you can get the truth. While they're censoring and destroying the First Amendment and taking away our right to free speech, we are standing there fighting for you. While they're trying
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Starting point is 01:35:42 I want to thank all the heroes around the world that are sung and unsung. Those of you out there that are supporting us, but don't let anyone know that you're quietly making a difference in the world. I wanted to thank you and you should be proud of yourselves right now because we've come a long way. But this is going to be a very, very important year. All around the world, we are under pressure. The World Economic Forum is trying to take over the entire world, including the United States of America.
Starting point is 01:36:13 They are trying to turn us into some sort of social, global, organized system with controlled power outside of the borders of America, frankly, outside of everyone's borders. in the space where we do have no control whatsoever. So if you want to stand up against that, this is your year. Here in America, we're going to have some very important elections. And I won't tell you who to vote for, but I will say this, get involved in whatever you believe in, whoever you believe in, as Robert Roos says, make your voice heard. Or you will have to blame yourself.
Starting point is 01:36:52 That's why I'm here. I'm doing everything that I can think of to do with my life and my abilities and my gifts because I'm responsible for the future of this world for my children. And you are too. They're watching you. They're watching what you do. And whatever world they're living in the future when we are not here, when they tell the stories to their children, they'll tell them how we acted here, what their parents did or did not do. to make a difference in this world. It can be a beautiful, beautiful place.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Freedom is still possible. Liberty is still possible. American can still be a beacon of light and hope. But if we sit on our couches and do nothing, I assure you we will lose that right. We will lose that ability. And we will lose this dream. So please get involved.
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