The Highwire with Del Bigtree - EPISODE 365: FEMALES ON THE FRONTLINE

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world. How about we all step out onto the high wire? Well, it's Women's History Month, and, you know, all across America, we've been celebrating all of the great historical accomplishments that women have brought to our lives. lives to this world. And of course, since we focus here a lot on medical tyranny and the fight to hold on to body sovereignty and, you know, health freedom, at the heart of that, I've said it so many times really is the warrior moms. It's the warrior moms that have just really gone out of their way to speak out about the health of their children, to discuss ways that we can improve government,

and gone even a step further when, after I made vaccines, started traveling the country, have figured out how to write legislation to get inside of the capitals and meet with politicians and develop teams and, you know, nonprofits that can really make a difference in this space. Every day, you know, I have to reflect on the giants whose shoulders that I now stand upon and the work that we do here at I can really would not be possible that weren't for some really incredibly powerful, dynamic, bold, wonderful, beautiful women. And today we're going to go through some of the history and some looking back on people that maybe you didn't even know really affected your life in this space. But before we do that, I want to speak with one of my favorite

women on this planet about our economy. What is our economy doing? What are the things that are coming after us? Is there anything we can do about it? I actually have a lot of of questions that I'm hoping to have answered about topics like this. The American people, particularly the middle class, are being absolutely crushed by inflation. House prices have gone up, mortgage rates, and people's rents. Sky high inflation that remains incredibly sticky and persistent, rising energy prices, rising housing costs. The top 10%, particularly the top 1%, even more so, the

top 0.1% took in much of the gains from the growth of the economy. 81% including Democrats don't like the direction. They're unhappy with the direction of America. 83% economic conditions fair to poor. 76% believe economies getting worse. There are 25 states raising their minimum wage starting next year. But businesses likely will have to increase their prices according to one expert to offset some of these new added monies. And that is just one of a number of changes taking effect. You're going to see reduced employment in all the states essentially where this is taking place. This is just going to pour more gasoline on that fire as labor markets start to weaken.

Tyson Foods has its eyes on a different class of workers. The company is now offering new jobs to asylum seekers in other states like New York. The company's excuse, migrants are getting the jobs that Americans don't want. It reduces the wages of American workers by replacing American citizens with foreign laborers who are willing to work at slave wages. That is the decimation of the American middle class, and it's happening all over the country. Well, to get to the bottom of some of these very complex issues is my pleasure to be joined by Catherine Austin Fitch. She's an investment banker and an economist. First of all, you know, you've been very outspoken in the space I talk about a lot about vaccines,

medical freedom. So thank you for your courage in that space. It is, you know, it is a perilous space to speak in and you have never held back. So thank you. Well, thank you, Dell. It's always an opportunity to be on the high wire. I do want to say, so for 10 years I was an investment advisor and I'm no longer am doing that job. But one of the things I discovered to my shock and amazement, which is part of what brought me to you in the highwire, is the number one reason I found for the diminution of family wealth with what I call the great poisoning. So families were being financially very much influenced or even decimated by the deterioration in pharmaceuticals and deterioration, the food and water supply and other forms of toxins. And so the great poisoning is

really very connected with financial well-being. And of course, as you know, health care costs are one of the major reasons for bankruptcy in this country. So the, the, the number one thing families listening to this need to do is to protect themselves from the great poisoning. And I think part of it is we just have to recognize that it's really happening. And if we know that, then we can start to, we can start to, you know, do all the things that you and your show recommend about what we can do to avoid it. That's such a great point. As you know, you know, we've said it before. We've watched an increase from about like 12% chronic illness in our children in the 1980s. It's skyrocketed to 54%.

And the last time we really handed that data of 54%, you know, came to us in 2016 based on data from 2012. Right. So it's very disturbing to even try and ponder where we may actually be at now with all of the industrial chemicals, all the forever chemicals, all the injections, all of these things going on. COVID vaccine is going to add to that. So it's such a great point. And the burden, just there alone, when you deal with the more serious issues like neurological, The cost is so incredible. And there's really these parents are being left, you know, fitting the bill and hanging on for dear life.

So I remember the cost is not just financial cost, it's time. The impact on a family's time and the ability to raise all the siblings properly is devastating. So whenever I see these kinds of poisonings, particularly the neurological damage, when I'm looking at is bankruptcy. Yeah. Yeah, it's really, it's a sad state of bears. And it needs to be fixed. And I, you know, I really have hope that if we all, you know, really got engaged with these issues and started making it a priority to have conversations with everyone we know, we could actually ship this.

I still believe we are, you know, living in a nation that is, you know, for the people, by the people. We're hanging on to a thread by that idea, which is some of what we'll talk about. But it's still possible, more possible here than anywhere else in the world. We should utilize that to our advantage. Well, let me let me go down because there's so many actions. people can take. So the first thing is if you protect yourself against the great poisoning, very important thing to do. One of the biggest reasons between the discrepancy between the wealthy and the middle class getting squeezed is cost of capital. So we have the big banks paying 0% for their

cost of capital or 1% or getting bailed out and getting capital for free, whereas most Americans are paying 17% for their plus on their credit card, you know, and high prices on the mortgage. Now, I dare say, neighbor could buy all the homes in your neighborhood for zero or one percent and you had to pay five or seven percent on your mortgage you know what's going to happen after many years still right so so part of this is that i want to address that right there because it's such an interesting point and it's one that i grapple with uh which is this whole idea of sort of trickled down we should give tax breaks and as you said these giant corporations get their money at such a reduced cost And now we're watching Black Rock, State Street, Bank, like these different companies, like buying up businesses, buying mom and pop shops.

We're going to the plumber. We think we're, you know, hiring a plumber that's been in business for 50 years. We find out they're just a part of a giant conglomerate. We're seeing this in the housing market. We're competing now with these massive investment banks that are, you know, you know, and so how do we do that? And it's not, it's not fair. We're not living in a fair and balanced environment. Well, first of all, it's not an unfair environment.

We're dealing with a financial co. Okay. So this is engineered, this is engineered top down, and it's a, you know, and there are many aspects to it. But one of them is the insiders have one cost of capital and the outsiders have the other, you know, a much higher cost of capital. As a result, the outsiders get harvested and the insiders, you know, end up centralizing ownership and control of everything. it's engineered both through the monetary policies and the fiscal policies. But the first thing we need to do is understand this is really going on and we need to get ourselves out of a debt trap. So anything we can do, one, to use cash, preserve cash, because the more the system goes all digital, the more control and the more games they can play.

So one is we can use cash. Two, get yourself into a great community bank instead of a bank who plays games, you know, decimates your privacy. as we've seen from this recent report on the weaponization of government, and then get out of debt if you can. Even if you have to go to extraordinary lengths, get out of debt, because debt is a debt trap. And we see countries all around the world in a debt trap. You know, the team going around and saying, let's get out of, you know,

let's not agree to the who amendments. Leaders are saying, but we're in a debt trap, the bankers have cut off our money. So whether it's individually or as a family, we have to get out of a debt trap. And then we have to help our jurisdictions get out of a debt trap too. understand the differential between the cost of capital. Part of that is anticipating inflation. Many families have gotten surprised by the extent of the inflation and the dirty tricks involved

in the inflation. So one of the things we see is a new video out on one of the retail stores that's saying on their shelves the price is X and you check out in the prices X plus 10 or 20 I've been traveling all across the country and staying, you know, doing car rental companies or hotels, and it's the same game, Dell. I mean, it's a scam. So anything you can do to understand the inflation game and the dirty tricks, you know, anticipate. One of the greatest opportunities for every family and every person, because we're in election year, 74% I think, of the global population has an election this year. And of course, we have presidential elections and significant elections at state and local in the United States. One of the things that's amazing, there are leaders fighting for us when it comes to our cost of capital or the dirty tricks that we're dealing with.

Or the great poison, as you know, I mean, they're great leaders fighting. And it's amazing because I've been working with both congressional leaders and the state legislatures. And it's amazing, Dell, how little support the good guys get. Yeah. So this is an election cycle. This is a time when we all come out in the campaigns. We need, if everybody took their money out of the banks that are playing these games and was scamming us with cost of capital and took their money

and put their backing behind the political leadership that is really trying to solve the problems, oh my God, do you have any idea what a revolution there would be in this country? Yeah, totally. really it's it's exciting those people are out there uh we see it happening let me ask you a couple specific questions that are really uh in the news right now that tyson story tyson is firing you know legal workers uh closing down plants in some areas but hiring you know what they call refugees but i'm assuming these are sort of undocumented workers that come into the country um you know qualify for some reason and they're hiring you

them to fill these plants. Does that have any effect on your average consumer? Does that have an effect on jobs and employment? Because it seems to me we have people that will take those jobs. And we are told you don't have to worry about it. Nobody's going to take those jobs. Only refugees would take those jobs. So what are your thoughts on that subject? So the folks who spin this are lying to you. Now, it's true. that there are jobs that immigrants are more willing to do or can do a better job at. So I'm not saying that dynamic isn't here,

but if you look at what's going with the poisoning of the population and the incredible immigration, which is being financed by the leadership, so this is not just being allowed, it is being financed and engineered. So we are seeing immigration weaponized and financed by the leadership.

And this is a replacement population. You're basically poisoning one population and replacing it with another population. And it's intentional. It's part of building the control grid. So, and I think, you know, it helps to see things in a, in a simple, clear manner. You know, we have to, there's a wonderful new article that James Consular just wrote. He said, you know, politics have now divided between the sane and the insane and the sane have realized that all these different spins. So he used climate change and some others.

All these different spins are just cudgels using, that they're using to basically kill us and take our stuff. And the beauty is if you understand it's really that simple. This is a coup. They're using these sort of excuses as a council will kill you and take your stuff. Then you can start to know what to do because there are millions of things we can do. There are millions of actions we can take and a very small part of the portion of the population is taking the actions they need to take just to protect themselves. Yeah. Yeah.

And another thing we can do, Dallas, get very serious about privacy. So, you know, the more invasive, the more the one-way mirror can see what I'm doing, but keep government money secret. And we know the laws have changed. Part of our biggest challenges is the federal government has changed the administrative policies and has taken the position that they can keep government money secret. And so, you know, in my community. there are large corporations being paid $100, $125 an hour to do a function that one of my neighbors would love to do for $25 plus health care.

You know, but the financial disclosure is not there to see it. If tomorrow everybody got financial statements for their jurisdiction of the government money, if, you know, if I own a stock, I get an annual report. If I got an annual report from my congressional district, I assure you there would be a revolution. because the amount of money being, you know, being funneled into large corporations in a way that makes their stock go up. And, of course, the big one, of course, was the pandemic. Right. We shut down Main Street and we shift their market share to Wall Street. Wall Street stocks skyrocket.

And it's basically a taking. You took business for Main Street and you ran it through publicly traded stocks. You got a big pop on your stock and the rich are getting richer. You know, but it was really, I don't know if you remember, if there was one great moment when one commentator on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange was saying, well, wait a minute, how come we have to close these 20 small businesses, but this big box store right next door in the same shopping mall

can stay open and it's packed and their parking lot is packed? And the other said, oh, well, that's science. The virus doesn't go in the big box door. Oh, my God. It really, it's funny if it was, so tragic. And we've watched it. We've watched, you know, it really, it crosses party lines. This theft of the middle class has happened, you know, in my mind, no matter who's in office, but I'm not going to get political about this. I do have an issue that is getting me into

arguments, and I'd be the first to say I'm really an artist. I'm really into this science stuff. I'm a filmmaker. I am not an economist. And, you know, if you saw how I run my finances that would probably, you know, back that up. But I want to say this, like the question around minimum wage, when I saw just in that, in that video that played, that there's still states paying $7.25 an hour, which is maybe just $2 more than I made 30 years ago when I was, you know, working my way up as a teenager and then a young adult. And inflation just seems to me that it has skyrocketed past that. We are living in a different day and age. Yet this argument keeps being made.

If you raise minimum wage, that cost is going to be on the consumer, it'll actually hit the middle class and the poor, and they won't be able to buy groceries or eat at a McDonald's or whatever that argument that's being made. But it seems to me that what that says is so that cost, you know, won't be coming from the CEOs. they're still making billions of, you know, millions of dollars, or from the stock, like, it's all just being put on the consumer. But then the argument I hear is, well, what about the smaller businesses? They can't handle that. So what is it, what is your take on minimum wage? Are we just going to, because here's my question. Let me, let me be more specific. It seems to me, if we don't pay people enough that they can feed themselves worth, if you're working a 40-hour week, even if it's at a coffee shop or McDonald's, you used to be able to have a cheap apartment

and make it buy, striving to do better. But I wasn't on food stamps. My parents didn't give me money. I worked in restaurants and I did things and was able to survive in New York City doing that. And now I feel like as we, like, you know, contain this and say, well, we don't want to put it on the consumer, but really, we're all paying taxes that go to food stamps and assistance programs. So we're paying them one way or the other.

aren't we? That, I mean, that's sort of where my question is at. So it is true that the higher you make minimum wage, the more incentive businesses have to automate, or the harder it can be for startups or small business. So I'm not saying there isn't some legitimacy to that, but the basic premise, Dell, is what we're saying is it's much more economic for everybody to have inhuman working conditions and people who can't afford to live or take care of proper care of themselves and their family. And we need to run a society where working people

live an uncivilized existence. This is ridiculous. Yeah. So yeah, and if you look at the massive subsidy going into corporations and large banks and the illegalities of the, of the, I mean, right now, the US government has broken all of the financial, or a significant number of the,

the financial management law for decades and trillions of dollars are missing from the U.S. government. There's over 21 trillion that we know of before they took the book secret. I assure you there is enough money for everybody to live a civilized existence. For example, I go back and forth between Tennessee and the Netherlands. In the Netherlands, the average holiday for people in Northern Europe is 40 to 50 days a year. At the United States, it's 10 days. Try and be healthy. Right. Do you know what the difference is when you walk and the food in Europe is so far superior, it's unbelievable.

So when you walk around northern Europe and you see the health of people, it significantly improved relative to U.S. because literally the U.S. worker is living under inhumane conditions and they can't be productive. I can't be productive if I'm being poisoned and I'm not getting enough sleep. Okay, so I mean, the whole thing is a ridiculous discussion. And it comes back to whether are we going to try and liquidate our population, or are we going to try and build a real human civilization? It's simple. It's simple. And many of these things are, in fact, you know, when the World Economic Forum says it's 2030 and you have no assets, all of these are simply mechanisms they're using to basically take all your assets. If your cost of capital is 17% and mine is zero, it's a matter until I, you know, buy all your stuff, right?

Yeah, you're just slowly going to take it all from it, which is what we've seen over the last several years. And that's my feeling. There is rivers of money flowing through the United States of America. And there's just a tiny group of people that are literally holding everybody else back from even getting a sip from that river. It's getting ridiculous. Well, part of the problem. The problem is that river of money makes things very unproductive, and that's hurting everybody. Here's the good news, and I give credit to Mary Holland of Children's Health Defense, who pointed this out to me.

There was a TED talk of an academic who went back and studied revolutions, and the first thing they discovered was that revolutions, civil disobedience revolutions were much more successful than violent revolutions because they were so inclusive. But here was the really good news. It only took 3.5% of the population to engineer a successful revolution. So when I say, if we shift our money, if we stop financing, they're great poisoning, if we stop banking at the banks who are playing this game

and engineering the monetary inflation to basically bankrupt us or engineering the pandemic, if we shift our money and we shift our support behind the political leaders who are doing incredible, incredible things at the local state and federal level. It doesn't take but 3.5% to really set off a revolution. And I think the time has come when people realize, oh, it's simple. It's simple.

This is simple. Let's, you know, it's time for the saying to take back power from the insane. I love that. Let's do that. So it's a revolution of the saying getting back in charge. If you want to follow all the great work that you do, where do we go to check that out? Go to Salary. Our whole, we have a building wealth curriculum because what we need, Dell, is a reset that builds wealth. And if the same take things back, we can build tremendous

new wealth. Tremendous. Fantastic. Catherine Austin Fitz, you are going to go down in history as one of the great women of our time. It's an honor and pleasure to know you to get to work with you and that you would take the time to share this insight with us today. Truly appreciated. Thank you. Thank you, Joe. All right, take care. Well, we have a huge show still coming up. I mean, one of the biggest heroes in the medical freedom movement, Dr. Suzanne Humphreys.

I haven't had the opportunity to speak with her for some time. The 10th anniversary of her book, Disolving Illusions, is hitting stores as we speak. We're going to talk about what additions, what new materials are there and what she's up to. I'm going to talk to Dawn Marie, who's been working with the Spree. Spellers, this incredible miracle story. Well, the spellers are up to some new endeavors. And so we're going to talk about that. But first, it's time for the Jackson Report. I wish I could just like take Catherine Austin Fitz and just have her run my, you know, my finances for like a year and just like get it all worked up. I'm so busy.

I just feel like I'm missing out somewhere in here. But what is so great. So wonderful. What a force. Well, as you said, Delt, March's woman's history. History Month. And we'll take a second to acknowledge some of the incredible women that we have in the movement that we find ourselves in. This is the Health Freedom Movement. Someone that you just sat down with, Barbara Lof Fisher, amazing woman, really one of the people that we're all standing on the shoulders of, Dr. Suzanne Humphreys. We have Dr. Sherry 10 Penny as well. Amazing work for decades. And then, of course, Dr. Tony Bark. Oh, yeah. We all miss her. So now we can't honor all the women that have done amazing work in this space in this small segment here,

but we want to highlight just a few that you may never have heard of. One of those is American virologists Bernice Eddy, Dr. Bernice Eddy, who worked in the biologics control division at the National Institutes of Health for several decades. But it was in 1950s when fate came knocking at her door. And what was going on then? Well, to set this up in 1954, we had Salks killed vaccine, polio vaccine field trials. And these were going on throughout the entire United States. And one organization was in charge of that.

And there was one man, Tom Rivers, who was the chairman of this organization. It's the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis. They had a vaccine advisory committee. And they basically oversaw this mass clinical trial that was going on. And in the history, a history of Tom Rivers, we look into this book that was. was published in 1968. And from his account, let's just look at this for a second, to give you an idea of that time space.

It says in April in 1954 on the insistence of Dr. James Shannon of the NIH, it was further required that a consecutive series of batches of vaccine from each commercial laboratory must be proven safe before any one batch would be considered acceptable for use in the field trial. So they're really trying to make sure before these vaccines went out for this field trial.

They want to make sure these are really safe for these kids, because the whole world is watching. They've been building this up with media for over a decade with the Marsh of Dimes. And it goes on to say this in this historical account. The remarkable fact is that the stringent safety test imposed in the vaccine used in the field trial of 1954 were abandoned when the vaccine was licensed for public distribution on 12 April 1955. After that day, the laboratory of biologics control of the NIH release the accumulated stocks of polio vaccine simply on a review of the record. of the events in the manufacturer and testing by the manufacturer of each lot of vaccine. I mean, this rings just like the COVID vaccine.

Well, it just looks like this was the moment when this entire, you know, program went south, when we left science and just said, oh, let's just trust the manufacturers. I'm sure they're telling us the truth about their product that they're about to make millions and billions off of. Exactly. One for testing, one for the rest of the public. And you can see the safety testing. So just four months later, so this thing goes out, just four months later, you have Dr. Bernice-Eddy working within the NIH testing these polio vaccines, and she discovers something quite shocking.

For this, we go directly to the NIH's own website. Dr. Bernice-Eady has a page dedicated to her there, and it says this. In August of 1954, Dr. Bernice Eddy had been testing a batch of polio vaccines from Cudder Laboratories when she noticed that the vaccine had given polio to a test monkey. She found that three of the six samples had paralyzed test monkeys. Eddie knew something was wrong and brought it to the attention of our supervisor, Dr. William Workman. Workman never told the licensing committee, and the cutter vaccine was approved and shipped out. And the rest is history. And we go to an article in the American Journal of Epidemiology looking at this incident just several years later.

And they say this, approximately 400,000 persons primarily grade school children have been inoculated with color vaccine during a 10-day period. in mid-April over the ensuing two months, 94 cases of polymolitis among Cutter vaccines, 126 cases among family contacts, and 40 cases among community contacts of vaccines were reported. Even Dr. Paul Offutt wrote a book on this, it's titled The Cutter Incident, and he's looking at how this actual situation led to a vaccine crisis,

he calls it. But he says in his book, children given Cutter's vaccine were more likely to be paralyzed in the arms, more likely to suffer severe and permanent paralysis, more likely to require breathing assistance in iron lungs and more likely to die than children naturally infected with polio. And thank God, the media was still the media back then somewhat because even Time Magazine in 1955 posted this in their, this article under medicine. They call it a vaccine snafu, but they were on it. They said, and this is all due really to Dr. Bernice Eddy. Time magazine writes, many parents withdrew or failed to renew consent slips.

in New York City, the fallout rate when shots were given last week ran around 30%. In San Francisco, about 40%. Most family doctors advise parents to go ahead with vaccination, but in many cases without enthusiasm. Physicians still resented the lack of scientific information on the Salk vaccine in any medical publication were just as confused as everybody else by the public health services repeated change of signals. Now, it wasn't just cutter vaccine, as it says here in Time magazine, it says there was other ones too. This is as this was as this was a unfolding, 1995. Time Magazine's writes, U.S. mostly Western, total of such cases reached 78 after Qatar vaccine, 59, 5 fatal, after Eli Lillian Company 14, and after Wyeth 5. And it says this in

closing. In retrospect, a good deal of the blame for the vaccine snafu, they're calling it, also went to the National Foundation, which, with years of publicity, had built up the danger of polio out of proportion to its actual incidents and had rushed into vaccination this year with patently insufficient preparation. Wow. This is amazing because in telling Dr. Bernice Eddy's story, we have an historic account. Now, we only have, we have courage, we have hope, we have a whistleblower that really didn't get full credit in the time that she was doing this, but we have a lesson on how

power centers work when it comes to these biomedical injectable products. Now, now we go back. So that's not all, Bernice Eddy did. So we go back to the NIH's website. So this is what they write about her. Amidst the controversy, this is the cutter incident. Amidst the controversy, Eddie was relieved of her polio control testing duties in 1955. Imagine that, but continued to work in biologics.

Eddie continued her groundbreaking research in 1956. She worked with Dr. Sarah Stewart of the National Cancer Institute. So she's taken off polio duties. She found this. This is probably the most shocking discovery of the time. I mean, isn't that so disgusting? And we've talked about it in real time this is happening as we speak. But even back in 1955, she proved she was right.

We ultimately now know that she could have saved probably millions of lives, certainly, you know, a lot of suffering. And instead of being celebrated, instead of being listened to, they moved her out of that department so that she would never cause trouble for the manufacturers again. So, I mean, we were screwed all the way back in 1955. This corruption of government was happening. But it never stopped people from speaking out like her. So she was put in with Dr. Sarah Stewart.

They worked on cancer. They worked in the cancer, cancer laboratories. And at the time, the polio vaccine, Salt's Polio vaccine, was using rhesus monkey kidney cells for culturing the polio virus. They had to be continually replenish using these monkeys, obviously, killing them as well. And from here, we're going to let Dr. Leonard Hayflick describe the rest of Dr. Eddie's legacy at that time. Take a listen. Bernice Eddie, E-D-D-Y, Bernice, who I was, who I knew well. At that time, inoculated polio preparations into the cheek pouch of hamsters.

The cheek pouch is a particularly interesting organ because it's, it has a particular interesting. very little in the way of immunity and consequently it can grow things that ordinarily would not grow in other tissues and so it's a very useful organ. She inoculated some of the vaccine preparations sent for testing and approval into hamster cheek pouches and discovered that tumors were produced, which was quite alarming. Later developments, and these developments occurred rather quickly, showed that the virus, that there was a virus involved,

and that the virus was the same one discovered by Sweeten Hillamon at Merck called SV40. And SV40 has the alarming capability, not only of producing tumors in the cheek pouch of hamsters, but worst of all, when introduced into cell cultures of human cells frequently causes them to transform into cell lines or cancer cells. Obviously, very, obviously, probably the worst calamity you can think of.

Furthermore, by this time in the early 60s, the Salk vaccine had been approved and widely used. Sabin's vaccine, I believe, was just also being used in many countries, including the U.S. And it was easy to learn that several million people worldwide had received those vaccines, that contained at no extra cost, SV40 virus. A huge worry. You know, there's millions of cancer cases that they, you know, suspected from

that contamination of the vaccine. Really, I didn't realize that was the same person though that discovered that. It's really interesting, Jeffrey. Yeah, and because in part of her discovery of that, they ended the rhesus monkey kidney cells and you saw dr hayfleck there he created the w i 38 immortal cell line that that was then replaced to use for for vaccine production but that didn't stop i mean obviously so we went from oh is that is that a cancer cell line or is that an

aborted fetal cell line i believe that's an aborted fetal cell line all right so so we let let the monkeys go and switch to aborted fetuses yeah so advancement of science a study of sv40 did show this i mean they did close the gate on it, but you know, the horses, a lot of the horses left at the barn at that point. In this study here, Cimeon virus 40 in human cancer, just as conclusion, the results established that SV40 is associated with significantly with brain tumors, bone cancers, malignant mesothelioma, and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Studies are needed to assess current prevalence of SV40 infections. So it's kind of a meta-analysis back then. I mean, and it would be really amazing to think that, you know, and this is part of the great work since Ann Humphrey's

has done. We can talk to her a little bit about that. But when you're going to you look at, they were overstating, as it said, in the NIH or in the Time magazine, the dangers of polio. Meanwhile, they're giving polio through an accident in processing, and now everyone that survived and didn't get polio is at risk for cancer. And so when you look at all those numbers, you have to ask yourself, did we really do better with the vaccine program, one of these circumstances? Right. And we're going to be talking about that a little bit with measles as well. But I want to bring up the timeline here to another woman. We'll bring it up to 1990s.

Someone our audience may be familiar with a true force really in government health. This is Dr. Bernardine Healy. Take a look. All right. Dr. Bernardine Healy, the former director of the National Institutes of Health, also a former head of the American Red Cross, science advisor to President Ronald Reagan, and a CBS News medical consultant. My parents and particularly my father thought it was wonderful.

for a woman to be a doctor. And in those days, when I was growing up, it was really exceptional, unusual for a woman to pursue a career in medicine. It was a place where I could use my intelligence and my hard work, but also make a difference. You know, there's not one doctor in the Senate of the United States. If there were 65, I wouldn't be running, but there's not one. And I think if we ever needed to have good medical backgrounds and medical information, it is now because there is a crisis of confusion. The public doesn't know what the the government is about to do to them. Let me tell you that the individual consumers must be at the center.

They're the ones that have information. They must be informed. They must be able to pick and choose. They must look for quality as well as cost. It is in health care that the patient must be there at the center. Not the doctor, not the insurance company, not the government, not the drug companies. It's the patient. When I was at NIH, there were a number of wonderful challenges and a number of very difficult.

And I laid out the general concept of the Women's Health Initiative. that would be holistic, that it would involve not one organ or one disease, but in fact major illnesses and issues of wellness that affect women, particularly in that over 50 reigns where most women, most people face their illnesses and see their lives demolished often by diseases that often can be prevented. I had a conversation with her before she died. In 2009, several hour conversation with her and told her every day. everything that I had learned.

And she did really play her role before she died in talking about the potential, you know, association between vaccines and autism. This is the time when we do have the opportunity to understand whether or not there are susceptible children, perhaps genetically, perhaps they have a metabolic issue, mitochondrial disorder, immunological issue that makes them more susceptible to vaccines, plural or to women, particular vaccine or to a component of a vaccine like mercury. It sounds like you don't think the hypothesis of a link between vaccines and autism is completely irrational.

So when I first heard about it, I thought, well, that doesn't make sense to me. The more you delve into it, if you look at the basic science, if you look at the research that's been done in animals, if you also look at some of these individual cases, and if you look at the evidence that there is no link, what I come away with is the question has not answered. If you don't have courage, all your other values and principles and goals don't have any meaning. And faith, the abiding belief in yourself, in the fundamental goodness of those who are around you, and a greater being who embodies justice which sooner or later triumphs. All of us, I believe in our hearts are humanitarian. And how wonderful to be in a career that in almost any

dimension of it, whether you're the doctor at the bedside or the scientist in a laboratory or the public health doc tracking down the latest epidemic, that you are doing something that is pure in its fundamental purpose, which is helping another human being. What an amazing powerhouse. And I just want to point out the statement she made to Cheryl Atkinson at CVS interview, I think it's some of the most powerful testimony we can ever look at by the head of the NIH, former head of the NIH, which means she had access to all the top science in the world. So when people tell you this has been extensively studied,

there's no connection between vaccines and autism, I can say this. The head of the NIH said, and what is that, 2008 on primetime television, that there is not enough science there, that this question has not been answered and not one single red cent from that moment till now has ever been paid for by the government to do any deeper investigation to vaccines and autism.

That is a fact. That is something we should all be very concerned about. And in her entire life, her entire career, this is a woman who went to bat, no matter how unpopular it was. And as you saw in that 2008 clip, that was probably the most unpopular take to have at that time to actually question those vaccines and say, we haven't done the science. And so she's one of the first women to win a title of full professor at Johns Hopkins Medical School. And of course, the first woman director of the NIH also raised two daughters at the time. but she taught her patients and the public in general to take personal responsibility. As you saw from those clips there, it's the patient that is the center, not the doctors, not the bottom line of the pharmaceutical companies or even in the government.

And she actually wrote a book to inform women about this idea. It's called a new prescription for women's health. And you can see in the bottom there getting the best medical care in a man's world. But this book has questions women can directly ask their doctors to get the information they want, the right questions, what women can do personally to help their health, and even, like, political objectives. So this was kind of like a one-stop shop. And as she mentioned in those clips, she started the woman's health initiative soon after she got into the NIH. This was over a $600 million initiative for research to look at issues that were specific to women, cardiovascular issues,

osteoporosis, cancer, and women over 50. Unfortunately, up until that time, there really weren't studied, shockingly, and because most of the studies were centered around men. And you can see some of the headlines at that time that were reporting on this. Here's Washington Post, the Healy experiment. Another one, what doctors don't know about women. Here's one from the New York Times. Studies say women fail to receive equal treatment for heart disease. Just giving you an idea here. This is when some of the first studies started trickling out in 91. It says two new studies show that doctors treat women with heart disease less aggressively than they treat men. The studies show that women were at most half as likely as men to undergo a common diagnostic procedure, cardiac

catheterization to determine how advanced their heart disease was, and women were much less likely than men to undergo bypass surgery or balloon angioplasty to unclog blocked arteries. Yet the women in the studies tended to have more advanced heart disease than the men. And it goes on to say the papers are being published today in the New England Journal of Medicine and are accompanied by an editorial by Dr. Bernadine Healy, a cardiologist who is a director of the National Institute of Health. And her editorial, Dr. Healy deplored the findings, saying, quote, the problem is to convince both the lay and the medical sectors that coronary heart disease is also a woman's disease, not a man's disease in disguise, she wrote. And so you can see her really going to bat there.

Obviously, as a head of NIH, that would have been a really unpopular idea to just tack hard and gets over $600 million to study women's health, but that's exactly what she did. And so this is why we're celebrating her here. And now we're also going to celebrate another woman, Dr. Mary Talley Bowden. She's been in the news recently. We're taking this timeline up to recently. She's been a plaintiff in a case where they have sued the FDA for their misinformation during COVID, specifically around the drug Ivermectin.

And you notice about three years ago, around 20, You started seeing tweets like this from the FDA. They took an aggressive stance against this drug. It says this, you're not a horse, you're not a cow. You've probably seen this tweet before. They basically went all out to tell people not to take this drug. And so this is Dr. Bowden's tweet here. You can see FDA loses its war on Ivermectin and agrees to remove all social media posts

and consumer directives regarding Ivermectin and COVID, including its most popular tweet in FDA history. This landmark case sets an important precedent in limiting FDA overreach into the doctor-patient relationship. Wow. Headline here FDA settles lawsuit over Ivermectin social media posts. And, you know, why have people been fighting so hard for this? We have Dr. Boughton in court. You have Dr. Pierre Corey. He came out hard and wrote a book on the actual drug, the war on Ivermectin. But you see here, this is the most recent studies. This isn't some fringe drug.

drug. This is a drug that has been studies extensively, specifically for COVID. Let's look at just the most recent studies here. We have over 100 studies, 1134 scientists in working on these studies, 142,27 patients in 29 countries. And remember in 2015, the Japanese scientists who discovered Ipermectin was awarded the Nobel Prize. So this is something that, I mean, this is a huge win. FDA, this is FDA misinformation that has been overturned by courageous doctors. And Mary Tyler Bowden, who has, you know, was censored, you know, threatened the hospitals, the job, just like so many other people in this nation, never gave up, never stopped fighting

for the truth. What an amazing victory this is. And it also speaks to the censorship trials we see going on right now. When the government was wrong on the protocols that they were pushing, wrong to come out against Ivermectin, how many lives would have been saved had we not had the shutdown on this product, all of the drug stores that wouldn't give it, even when doctors were prescribing it. This will be a blight on science, a blight on health, driven by the last two administrations, frankly, that have run this country.

So it's a dark, dark moment in medical history, one that I think, you know, we're seeing some light. We're seeing these courageous individuals, again, powerful women making a difference. All right. And so now let's look at some of the modern day public health propaganda, if you will, reporting, whatever we're going to call it. A lot of people have written in. A lot of parents have written in, ask us to really look at this stories. We're going to do a deep dive in the most recent measles scare that the media is drumming up. And if you haven't seen it, it looks like this. All right. It's making headlines around the world. The highly contagious measles virus is seeing a resurgence. Health leaders at both the local and national level are warning of a recent uptick in what they consider to be a preventable disease. There's a new health alert from the CDC about the rising number of measles cases around the country. So far this year, there have been 58 confirmed cases across 17 states. That's equal to the total number of cases we saw in all of last year. Three of those cases, we know we're right here in Minnesota. The Florida Department of

Health has reported 10 measles cases, nine in Broward County and one in Polk. Most doctors agree the spread is being fueled by low vaccination rates. especially among young children, many of whom stopped getting the shots during the COVID outbreak and never got back on schedule. The rate of immunization among kindergartners is starting to drop, and it's not surprising that this is the disease you see because this is the most contagious of the vaccine preventable diseases. There we are big. You know, the media loves a measles outbreak. They sure do. And you remember back in 2019, the high wire was on the ground in Rockland County for the last measles outbreak. We were trying to really show what was happening there.

And this was when the mayor of Rockland County basically said that unvaccinated children, they had an emergency order. This was the headline here. Unvaccinated children banned from public health spaces amid measles outbreak in New York suburb. That meant they can't go to religious practices either. So they were banned theirs. There was a curfew. I mean, we saw a curfew of Jewish people in Rockland County, in New York.

They're found on the street without vaccination, then they, you know, they could get a fine. They weren't allowed, as you said, in synagogues during Passover. You know, I started some controversy. That was the moment I stood in the public actually here in Texas and pinned a yellow star to my jacket. This has always been misrepresented that I was saying that the Yellow Star represented the vaccine program or the, you know, forced vaccine. It wasn't. I was making a statement about the curfew that was issued that they weren't allowed to walk down the street in the United States of America, that they weren't allowed to practice their religion, talking about the Hasidic Jewish community, weren't allowed in their temples during Passover.

That, to me, seemed like a dangerous precedent. That is what I was protesting against. And I said, I stand with you, that this should never have happened in the United States of America. Yeah, it was way over the line. And, you know, it didn't take long for this headline here just about a week later. Judge Lifts Rockland's Measles Emergency Order banning on vaccinated children from public spaces. That was CBS.

And so that was overturned fairly quickly. It was kind of a blemish on the public health there. But now let's look at the current measles cases. Let's go right to the CDC because again, we're being told this is an alert. This is an outbreak. We really should be scared. And so the CDC's own website, number of measles cases reported by week. This is from 2023 to current.

And you can see there, it looks like there may be an issue. you know, we have cases going up a little bit. Oh my gosh, all right. Right. You know, still 14 cases at the peak there in February. But now let's take that, let's take this entire chart you're looking at and embed that in the last 20 years. And look what we're dealing with here. So there's the chart embedded there.

There's that little blip on the right. That's a chart we just looked at. Now look at the rest since 2000. Not much is going on. Right. There's not much going on. So the current CDC numbers show. 64 measles cases. That's the most recent they have. But I want to pivot here for a second.

And I want to show the work that ICANN and the high wire does on vaccines, on vaccine reporting, which is then used in real-time litigation to influence court cases. So portions of what I'm reporting here are about to report here was used in order to restore the religious exemption for Mississippi school children that we celebrated here at an ICANN newsletter. And so let's look at some of the documents here that were submitted by our attorneys to the judge in that case. And this is the first one here. This is the CDC Vital Statistics. This is a 1968 doc produced by the National Center for Health Statistics. And in here, it has a chart of the death rates for measles. Now, this is a really important chart. It tells an amazing story. From

1900 to 1960, you have the death rate for measles per 100,000 population. You can see something there. By the way, the measles of vaccine didn't come in and was licensed to 1963. So this is before the vaccine, before any shots went into an arm for measles. You see a, what they call precipitous decline. And this is obviously, as we know, sanitation, better nutrition, improvements in all those areas. But I want to just, I want to look at that scale because I've never, it always looks really scary and like, oh my God, we really overcame something. But can we bring it back? Because I just for the first time really looked at that left column. And though it looks scary, you get the sense that there's like millions of people.

Did you just say that this is basically per 100,000? So at the really extreme high there, we're talking about 13 people per 100,000. So though that, you know, is alarming, I think that graph feels like millions when it's just really not. You're just talking about saying at the worst case scenario, this virus used to kill up to 13 people per 100,000. but by 1960 was down to just this side of zero. Right. And also to note, before there was a vaccine, right? Go ahead.

Yeah. Before the measles mass vaccination program was introduced, think about this. Nearly everyone contracted measles and obtained lifetime immunity by about 15 years of age. So we know measles is a self-limiting childhood viral infection. And most of the cases are benign. They're not even reported to public health departments. So that's really, it's something. important to couch this conversation in. But now let's bring it to the vaccine because as you saw

from that report of all the reporting of the current fearmongering by the media, it's because of unvaccinated kids, this is happening. Well, let's look at this vaccine. Let's look at the safety of this vaccine. So through Freedom of Information Act requests, ICANN has obtained the documents and the studies relied upon to license the MMR2 vaccine in 1978. This is what the FDA looked at. And so let's look at these clinical trials and let's look at how robust they were. So again, they, this was what they relied upon to vaccinate all children in the U.S. Max vaccination vaccination program, 834 children vaccinated. That's how many they use.

That's the whole study. That's the size of the study. That's the size of the study. So you obviously not statistically powered. You're going to miss a ton of rare issues. And so let's look at how long they followed these kids for safety issues. It says each child will be followed clinically for 42 days following vaccination. All local and systemic complaints will be recorded on the case report form.

So day 43 something happens, we're not going to record that on the clinical form. And, you know, people watching this, as you know, as a lot of people have woken up to during COVID, that the public is the final stage of safety testing. We need to pass the vaccine in order to see what's wrong. And let's be clear. I just want to point out because we go through this and people, I know we can glaze over a little bit. 42 days was the length of the follow-up of this safety trial. There's almost not a drug that your grandparents take that would ever have a trial that

short. So many of these trials are six years long. Let's see what the long-term health outcomes are. And we're talking about a product that's manipulating your immune system. So if there's going to be an issue, the most likely issue is an autoimmune dysfunction. That it throws the regulation of your immune system off. That's what it's designed to do. But what if it makes a permanent mistake?

You're not going to see that in 42 days. You're going to see that about a year or two. We know that. And as we pointed out, this is just another piece of evidence. We've never had a study of the childhood vaccines where we had a placebo group that went through two to six years. They don't exist. This is just another one. 42 days.

What do you expect to see if your immune system has been messed with by this product? There's no way to see it. And fortunately, not all is lost because as it, as it rolls out to the public, after licensure, the, there is federal law that requires that the package insert for this vaccine, the MMR vaccine, it lists the adverse events. We'll take a look at this. So they have to, by federal law, list the adverse events for which there is some basis to believe there is a causal relationship between the vaccine and the occurrence of an adverse event. So let's look at what they have to list here. looking at this, well, you see Guillembray syndrome, you see transverse myelitis, pneumonia.

I mean, you can go down there. Encephalitis swelling in the brain, that's the big one right there. When you think about that, because autism would be the result of your brain swelling as a child after getting this vaccine. I've said it before. When mother once came up to me and said, vaccines didn't cause my child's autism. It caused the brain swelling, the encephalopathy event that resulted in a symptom we now call autism. That is how people need to understand it. And there it is still written right there in the package insert, meaning some people, some children are going to have this reaction from this product.

But the government wants to tell us they don't matter. They don't count. Let them die. Let them be handicapped. Let them have whatever issues they have. We're going full speed ahead. And we're never going to investigate that group, which is what Bernadine Healy so clearly put out. I was shocked to find.

There was not a single study that looked at the change. children that had been injured. That's a mind-blowing statement to make publicly. Right. And there also has not been studies, as you know, about what children would be susceptible to these type of harm. Right. But that's beside the point at this point. So we have the Cochrane collaboration, a very well-respected institution looking at the measles, mumps, and rebella vaccine in children. They did a meta-analysis. He looked at 64 trials and studies involving just over 14 million and the authors concluded this. Quote, the design and reporting of safety outcomes in MMR vaccine studies, both pre and post-marketing, are largely inadequate. The evidence of adverse

events following immunization with the MMR vaccine cannot be separated from its role in preventing the target diseases. Even the CDC's own vaccine information statement that was on their website shows this when you look at it under MMR vaccines. They listed under the problem type, moderate, severe, you can see it under moderate, seizures, one in three, every three thousand doses, temporary pain and stiffness and joints, one out of four people. But then you go down to severe problems. It says serious neurologic reaction, less than one out of a million, deafness, long-term seizures, coma, lower consciousness, permanent brain damage. That's actually on this vaccine information statement. And so obviously there's a lot of questions for a self-limiting

childhood disease that's mostly benign. Parents have this. scale that they have to weigh when they see the media kind of over exaggerating the the fear reporting on this of just 64 cases in the entire United States. This is what they have to look at too. And then we're going to finish this off with just putting everything in perspective of physicians for informed consent. This is picked. They have a measles mortality chart just to put it all in perspective. And they look at the death rate. This is measles mortality versus the leading causes of death in children under the age of 10 for 100,000. Now, interestingly, there's some nuance here. It's very important. They say pre-vaccine measles. So again, this was that

chart we saw earlier on. They're choosing before the vaccine even came in, before all the sanitation was great, all of this stuff was happening. They said 0.9 per 100,000. Now, that's a small number compared to homicides, cancer, sudden infant death syndrome, cids there, unintentional injury, accidents, drownings, balls, genital abnormalities or anomalies. And then at the bottom there, they have the MMR vaccine, and of course it says insufficient data available, which is very, very astute by picked to put this there. But that's really what we're dealing with as far as a danger continuum with this measles outbreak that's currently happening or one that may happen in the future. Amazing reporting, Jeffrey. Just spectacular, looking at just the powerful women

there, Dr. Eddie and of course, Bernadine Healy and Mary Tyler Bowden. I mean, we're just, it's You know, and there's so many more we could talk about, but thank you for doing that great investigation. As always, I'll see you next week. Absolutely, thank you. All right, take care. All right. I actually want to just cover this measles issue because I've been in many headlines around it. I've even heard myself mention on a few news programs lately, but this was in the Washington Post,

anti-bacter, target communities battling measles. There was photos of me going there I was, talking to the press, in the middle of that outbreak. But I was sharing something there that I really want to share with you because when we think about the measles outbreak, let's go ahead and go over here to our board here to get a better understanding of this. One of the biggest outbreaks in my lifetime, really, but certainly in the last several decades, was the 2014-2015 Disneyland outbreak. This was what was used to push SB 277, which passed in California, taking the religious exemption away so the There was no way to exempt out of the vaccine program. They said this would stop a Disneyland outbreak from happening because it's the unvaccinated children, this tiny group of maybe 3 to 5 percent of unvaccinated children in California that caused this outbreak.

The headlines were relentless. They never stopped just as they're saying now it's the unvaccinated. But here's the thing. This is the actual data coming from the California Department of Public Health. This is their data. Not mine. This is not my opinion. Why do we look at some of the things that they discovered when they actually did the investigation of the cases in this outbreak?

What you will find is age distribution and hospitalization status of California measles outbreak cases. Remember, it's the unvaccinated kids that caused this. Only one problem is we discovered that a majority of the cases were adults. Over 53% were adults that were involved. involved in this. And frankly, those that were, you know, super young were a tiny part of this. But adults, it wasn't kids, the 53%. But it gets even more interesting when we look at the breakdown. We see that 82 or 60% cases had immunization status verified. They were able to verify in these cases whether they'd been vaccinated enough. And what we find is that 31% of them were vaccinated.

31%. That's a gigantic failure rate for something that said is safe and effective and 95% effective. Again, we're back to this issue. 31% of the cases were vaccine failure. But guess what? It actually is probably much worse than that because there's this group. 38% of that's 49 people. Of them, 48 were adults. And what they found is they didn't know their immunization status. 20 of them said that I'm pretty sure. was vaccinated, but they didn't have the records, and the others just didn't know, didn't remember. It's like who, what kid remembers getting the vaccines and which ones they got. We have to assume in the United States of America that 49, almost all of them should have been vaccinated. So that means the vaccine failure rate is not 31%. It's somewhere between 60 and 70% of the cases in this outbreak were vaccinated.

Not unvaccinated. That means they were shedding on each other. They were shedding on family members. They were putting, you know, immune-suppressed people at risk. That's the facts. We're looking at it right here, not my opinion. And then lastly, one of the most fascinating things about this investigation done by the California Department of Public Health was when they looked at the strain of measles.

Was this a wild-type measles? Or was there a possibility of the vaccine caused the measles? Look at this. 73 specimens were genotype B-3 outbreak strains. but 31 were genotype A, vaccine strain from recently vaccinated persons. So 30% of the cases were vaccine-strain measles caused by the vaccine itself. So the headlines are screaming at you. It's the unvaccinated children that are causing this,

but we now know somewhere between 60 and 70% most likely of those that were infected with measles had the vaccine, and 30% got it from the vaccine. I'm sorry. That's a wrap. Mic drop to anyone that wants to argue with me about the facts as the California Department of Public Health lays it out. All right. Let's get back to some of the other work that we're doing. Many of you know that the V-Safe data is the best data that was ever done around the COVID vaccine. This was the app that was built to question people that have just received the vaccine for several weeks and ultimately months.

We've talked about this. We got all of the, you know, sort of check the box data inputs that, you know, we fought in court. I can't fought for you. Took us over a year. What a road it was. We finally got all that data and we learned a lot from it. We built a whole dashboard so that you can search that. But in this app, we also wanted the real information.

All of the check the box was, did you have swelling in your arm? Did you have a headache, fever? All the things that they would say, that's great. It shows the vaccine's working. All the things you really. be worried about like myocarditis, paracaditis, you know, anaphylaxis, strokes, those things. None of that was asked in this app. But there was the open text box space where you could write it in yourself.

Well, as you know, Aaron, Siri and his team recently just a few weeks ago, finally won that open text data. And we've been taking these tranches that are coming into his law firm and putting them up on our website. This is breaking federal judge order to CDC to release all VSA free text. entries and a huge win for vaccine safety transparency. And here's the new one. This is what just happened.

Early BSA free text entries show remarkable consistency in the frequency of mentions of adverse events. So what were they writing in? Let's just read through what our report gave us this week. Here are a few examples of the sobering entries received and presumably ignored by CDC. My tinnitus is off the, this is what someone wrote. My tinnitus is off the charts. This is extremely loud.

Had I known the vaccination would make my tinnitus worse, I would have never got in the vaccine. Put it this way. If I was suicidal, I would be dead by now. That's how bad it is. Another one, I had a miscarriage after a second dose of Pfizer-COVID vaccine. I felt fine until I had the vaccine and within 48 hours of pregnancy symptoms ceased. I have no history of fertility issues or complications and had two healthy, uneventful pregnancies prior to this. Another one. Today, I experienced heart palpitations accompanied by tachycardia, dizziness, and weakness. These symptoms lasted about four hours. My heart rate was between 135 to 145.

I have never experienced any of these symptoms until today. And then it goes on. There's one more. Let's go ahead and read that, I think. In both of February-March production, roughly 3,200 entries mentioned the symptom of shortness of breath for the term heart palpitations. There were about 1,900 reports. I mean, this is all what we should have been asking, right?

We made them write it in. Did you have heart palpitations? Did you have any erythmias? The types of things that we should have been asking, knowing myocarditis was the big question, the elephant in the room, but they didn't. But they wrote it in 1,900 reports, and then 1,600 in the March batch. Concerningly, these are both symptoms of myocarditis. In addition, each batch, there were roughly 1,000 reports of ringing of the ears,

which studied and news reports have linked to the COVID-19 vaccines, despite CDC's refusal to recognize it as an adverse event. We're all over this, folks. This is what ICAN does, right? We are getting the information. We're putting out the public because you bet your life we are going to bring a case against the government agencies that saw this information coming in and lied to us and said it looks perfectly safe. We don't have any reason to believe we see no red flags on this product as they forced everyone in our president, Biden, forced us to take it if we wanted to have a job with employers with more than 100 people. if you were in health care, all of the things that we all know about.

But as we speak, this is brand new. So that article is just what we saw in a very quick cursory look at the data that is now coming in. It's now available to you on the website. And this is why that's important. If you are sort of inspired or prone to want to do your own investigation, there is investigations to be done. We want you.

You know, we're still a small staff here. We're doing our best to get this information. you should take this to your universities. You should take it into your think tanks and start studying it and see what you can find. Just as we were starting this show, I was told just a few minutes ago, we just found, someone just found another entry point in this data that just dropped. This is how you get to it. You can go to our website, go to be safe, access now. There is the dashboard.

And then if you want to browse the tranches of data as they're coming in, boom, there you can kick, click. Look at what we just found. This is one entry point that was written in. I got the vaccine on Wednesday, six since then, having heart attack this AM. I'm in the hospital at this minute. This is what they're writing into their V-Safe app. Heart attack Sunday, they write in, and then passed away is the last entry in the V-safe data. Folks, they told us they don't have a single circumstance in which they think there was a signal of death.

know that there's no way that that's true. And we're going to keep looking through this data. You can help us do that. So please use our website. Use the tools. We are fighting for you, but we can't do it all. You need to get involved. If you're in science, if you're a good epidemiologist,

all of this information is coming your way. And all of this to say, what other news agency in the world has ever, have you ever watched that just did what I just did just now? That talked about a problem, a lie that they pushed on you, by the way, those same news agencies lied to you about the safety of this product. Just trusted the experts that we told you on the high wire. They're lying to you. They're lying.

We have evidence. We were showing you evidence of the emergency use authorization by the FDA. We've been showing you the evidence all along. And now, on the backside of it, we are gathering the evidence that you should see that they knew about and lied about. CNN isn't doing that. MSNBC isn't doing that. Not even Fox is doing that. No one is doing that for you.

No one is fighting for you. Can you imagine what it costs to spend years in courtrooms to get this data, to take a website and build dashboards so that you can manage it easily so that the scientists of the world can finally have access to data that was supposed to be hidden from us for 75 years? Come on now. How much do we have to do for you to say, you know what?

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It's all based on you. like what you see here, vote with your dollars. All right. One of the biggest heroes that I got to meet very early on, right when I had made the film vaxed, was Dr. Suzanne Humphreys, a nephrologist, who was speaking out with sort of almost, I mean, sort of at the same time, she was a quiet, beautiful, wonderful doctor, but just had the voice of the lion when it came to what she had discovered and probably one of the most important books ever written about vaccination. When you hear somebody say, well, what about the polio vaccine? Well, what about the smallpox vaccine? That saved us. Are you saying that that was bad too? Well, you should read dissolving illusions.

And if you had, you would realize that one of the greatest heroes in history, as we celebrate great women in history, especially in the area of medical health and freedom, it's Suzanne Humphreys. And here is what she is like. Dr. Suzanne Humphruits. Dr. Suzanne Humphreys. Dr. Suzanne Humphreys is a highly educated specialist in internal medicine and nephrology. I don't have a horse in this race.

I don't have a vaccine injured child. What I did is I saw problems in my own patients. Everything changed for me in 2009. When I started noticing that vaccines given to patients on hospital admission were causing problems on top of the acute illness, I used to break my friends into vaccinating. I was that doctor. He used to guilt my patients into vaccines. I realized that I was miseducated and I realized there was a huge problem going on around me

in the hospital. I kept hearing these doctors say to me, no, it's not the vaccine. It can't be the vaccine. Vaccines are safe and effective and they're necessary and you can give them to everybody. The only difference between them and me is that I went and looked for myself and I found answers that that turned my world upside down. When I see a problem, I grab it by the horns and I deal with it. So it's really been my priority to read and read and read and understand as much of the science and the medical literature as possible. I have taken the past eight years of my life to intensively study the history of vaccination, immunology, as well as the components of childhood vaccines and their effects upon the body.

This is such an important issue for me that I've given up everything. The more science I know, the more indignant and upset I get, the science shows major problems with the theory of vaccination and with the practice of vaccination. Having studied vaccination longer than I've studied anything else in my life, I can say that human beings have actually created a lot of their own problems. After a lot of research, she wrote a book called Dissolving Illusions, Disease, Vaccines and the Forgotten History. smallpox could not have possibly been eradicated by vaccine because only 5 to 10% of the entire world was ever vaccinated. It was sanitation. So we have more to thank our plumbers for and our trash collectors than we do the medical system or vaccination.

Never has there been a safe vaccine. Not even one of them, let alone numerous vaccines in the childhood vaccination program given earlier and earlier and more and more. The diseases are often said, oh, that would have happened anyway. would have happened anyway but parents who watch this happen time and again know otherwise it's a systemic problem medical doctors are not taught within vaccines they are given the vaccine schedule told they are safe and effective and save lives as you heard over and over and over again I don't even believe a little bit in vaccines there's no possible way that injecting animal matter live viruses and toxins as well as chemicals formaldehyde aluminum actually promotes

health I believe that they could do more harm to me that I may never be able to make up for. There are too many vaccines too early. There's no end in sight to how many vaccines people are going to be recommended to have. We can't just keep religiously repeating vaccines are safe, effective, and necessary while people are getting very sick and not getting compensated for the lives that are lost. Yeah, it's just by honor and ultimate pleasure to be joined now by Dr. Suzanne Humphreys. Zudad, I just saw that video this morning, and I'd forgotten just how strong and assertive your voice was as we were sort of traveling the country and involved with speaking engagements together.

There's been a lot of pussyfooting around. Some people are trying to use like softer language, but boy, there's just no question. And since we put that together, I mean, let me just make sure I know we're talking about the 10th, the anniversary release of dissolving illusions. Does that still represent your perspective? Because we haven't really talked. I want to make sure that maybe you haven't softened on this topic before we get going. Yeah, no, it's funny because I just watched this whole COVID thing unfold just like you did. I'm sure you had the same feeling. It's like you weren't surprised about anything, were you? No, no, not at all. In fact, we were. Honestly, it's like, yeah, we were credited with almost being psychic as though somehow we predicted where everything was going,

But it was just obvious how the game was played. So it was sort of like, it was like getting a farmer's almanac from the future. You know, we, you know, we were able to make some really safe bets and our audience exploded because of it. Yeah, right. I know. I mean, I remember when I was waking up in the hospital and I thought all this is really bad. And then, and then we saw Gardasil happen. And we thought it couldn't get any worse than that.

And now here we are, you know, with COVID. That's like, you know, that vaccine's so much worse. and even the Gardasil vaccine. So what's next? Yeah, no, we're going definitely in the wrong direction. So dissolving illusions, I mean, for people that haven't read it, I mean, that is the most, you know, I don't recommend another book more because the big question we always get from people that are entering into this conversation, and there's a lot of them right now, millions of people around the world because of COVID now recognize, okay, I know that vaccine was a sham. I watched them lie to me. I watch them rush the trials. It wasn't properly tested. Now I'm questioning what about

all of those other vaccines. But the question they always ask is what about polio? What about smallpox? And that's what makes your book so amazing is all of the evidence you have that there was a pushback even back then. People were anti-vaxed then saying, why are we not talking about all the people getting polio, as we just covered earlier, the sock bag, like getting polio from the vaccine itself, having, you know, cancers and things like that, smallpox similarly. So what is it we can expect from the 10th anniversary edition? What is new about the book that we've been looking at for now 10 years? Well, there are 200 extra pages. So we were debating whether to write a second book or whether to add to the Dissolving Illusions book.

And we chose to add to the dissolving illusions book. So there's, you know, in the 10 years since the first publication in 2013, you know, I've learned a lot more, and Roman has learned a lot more, and there's history. So we added a lot of that. There's a lot of additions into smallpox. There's actually more addition into polio. and there's a chapter now on tuberculosis, which we didn't have in the first book. Wow, interesting. It looks like you've got sort of three new books coming out way. There's the 10th anniversary edition, and then there's the 10th anniversary limited edition.

What's the difference between those two? So the limited edition has, it's all color, and it has lots of folks from our travels over the 10 years, Romans and mine. I think Catherine and Patrick are actually in there. And so it's just a little more of a special book, and it has our signatures on it. All right. Excellent. Then there's one accompanying book that you have, which is the third book that's available. This is the companion and reference. Why is that necessary?

What is the companion and reference book about? Well, so there was a lot that we couldn't put into dissolving illusions. I mean, we had piles and mountains of information. So what the companion book really is, I'd say there's probably over two or three hundred doctors' quotes from the smallpox era and the toxoid vaccine production era that sound just like the doctors of today. They're just basically crying out in desperation, regretting the day that they ever gave a vaccine and have a lot to say about what was going on around them.

So it's pretty profound when you see the boots on the ground from back. back then, pretty much saying the same thing that we're saying today. So chapters of different books that are difficult to find. We put those all together. So it's another 600-page book there. It's fully referenced. And so it's more of a reference and companion to dissolving illusions. All right.

You keep referencing Roman, who I know is your co-author. Tell me a little bit about him and what your process has been together in writing the original book. and then now this 10th anniversary edition. Okay, so Roman is, his specialty is computer science. So he has a real mind for graphs and charts and numbers. And he also loves history. So we were basically the perfect match for writing this book because I had the medical background.

I've got a physics background, but I can't do what he does. So he did an enormous amount of research, and he basically gathered these vital statistics in world, that even people who hate our guts don't argue with. The numbers are the numbers. And he drew graphs. And then he drew the arrows in where the vaccines or the antibiotics or the toxoids came in and noted,

yeah, there's one right there, that it's the same story again and again and again. The same story repeated for just about every disease is that the death rate was down by over sometimes 99% before either the antibiotic or the vaccine was introduced. produced. And so that kind of threw his world upside down. So he started researching history. And at that time, he was probably knee deep into doing what he was doing. And then he found me after I was on a talk show back in 2012. And I would write a book with them. And at first,

I was only going to write the folio chapter. And then keep my hands out of the rest of it. So it became a dual effort. Yeah, I mean, Roman has put in seriously amazing amounts of work. He developed the website. He does he does all the talking with printers and just one of the nicest, hardest working people you'll ever know. One of these, one of the stories that I've been following on this polio is the fact that we now are seeing polio outbreaks around the world. You know, we're starting to see in the Middle East, third world where they're using vaccination that it appears as vaccine strain polio is starting to spread. I also see stories of their finding polio in the sewage system in New York City. And, you know, I know I'm surprising you with this question. So if it's not something you've really looked at, but, you know, it just seems to me that they'll want to say that we eradicated polio.

And one of the things I say is, well, that story isn't over yet. We don't know where polio is at. We're seeing it start to move. And if in the end, in a few years, we're all battling polio again and maybe a vaccine, strain form, certainly history will tell a different story. Have you been watching any of that issue? I mean, I know the CDC is very concerned, but they're not open with the public about it. Right. So this, this again is kind of an old story that just keeps resurfacing, that they keep looking in the sewage virus. And if you look, you will find it. So again, we always have to

come back to the question, what is polio? Yes, help me with that. So polio never went away. Yeah, polio never left us. Poliomyelitis is the description of the physical condition, which includes paralysis of one and more muscle groups that lasts for, you know, it used to be 24 hours before the vaccine, and then they extended it to 60 days so they could wipe out 90% of the diagnoses after the vaccine. But the fact of the matter is is that it's usually damaged the posterior horn and spinal cord, and it never went away. It was renamed, it was recategorized, and as the doctor experts in the 1950s

but adamantly stated that we would have lost 90% of polio diagnoses simply by the diagnostic criteria changes that occurred. So let's just talk about paralysis. So if we're looking at paralysis, you know, one of my heroes is Dr. Jacob Poole, who did a study that we put in dissolving illusions where he looked at the circulation, sorry, the pulse polio rounds where they basically force oral polio vaccines on children, sometimes up to 30 times, and the corresponding paralysis rate. Now you would think that paralysis would go down with these wonderful campaigns with these wonderful

vaccines, but in fact what he saw was the paralysis rate rose. And now since Dissolving Illusions was published, he's done some more research because of his outcry. They've diminished, not gotten rid of the pulse polio, but they decreased it significantly. And he has a new paper, guess what? Paralysis has gone down in conjunction with that. Wow. So yeah.

I mean, that's some of the best evidence, you know, that I've discovered in science is if you increase something that gets worse, then you decrease that we see the problem decrease. It's a pretty strong, you know, red flag at the very least, but it's really strong evidence that this thing is causing the problem we're looking at. just watching the varying degrees. What else, you know, what else do you think? What is the most compelling argument? If you get stuck with someone in an elevator and they say, well, what about the polio vaccine? What's the elevator pitch? What is the part of it we should all be focused on as a part of the conversation? I think what we should be focused on are the facts and the data rather than

the stories that we hear. My grandmother had polio, blah, blah, blah. Well, you know what? Your grandmother might have got it from somebody who was vaccinated who was shedding a vaccine strain. That's one thing. Your grandmother may not have even had a polio virus. She could have had other things that went on around the same time that could have made any viral infection more invasive. So these n equals one, you know, it's good. You know, that's how we all start thinking as we see something happen. We see one case and we think further on it. But we have to keep looking and we have to look at the data and there were trials done on the polio vaccine and i think one of the biggest interesting things is that they didn't release the data on that horribly fraudulent

very poorly designed trial with very bad interpretations of the statistics they didn't even give doctors at the time the data until two years later okay so doctors were pretty much rounded up and said here's the vaccine that we've all been waiting for give it they weren't given information even the doctors that were told to give it. And it was licensed in a matter of eight hours. That's pretty much a record for them. In eight hours, they pressured the committee to license the vaccine the day that the France's trial data was supposedly finished. So I just say, look, you have to look at the history of what happened around here. That's what dissolving illusions is all about. Why would this have been going on like this? What was making people die? What was making people

crippled. Let's look at the history of how people were living, what they were bathing in and marinating in in society. What are the drugs that people are using to treat? I mean, every disease that has the vaccine in history, the doctors were doing the most insane things to treat the disease. So why were these legs paralyzed? Good question. I had to ask that. I had to research that. Well, they were paralyzed because doctors decided to start cutting tendons on spasmed muscles and putting children in casts for two years. So we have to look at the treatments of, it's the same with COVID.

How are people being treated, completely poisoning them, wrong treatments, not allowing the right treatments to be given. I mean, it's just, there's so many amazingly easy arguments to kill this polio idea. It's not even funny.

So it's an easy one. Trap me in that elevator any day. Polio is one I can just nail in five minutes, probably. Let's talk about small. for a second. I mean, there's a lot on polio, but smallpox is very terrifying. One of the things I always find shocking is when, you know, they'll say, you know, the anti-vaxers are going to bring back smallpox. You're going to take us back to the dark ages or do you want to be like Africa? You know, one of the arguments I make, you know, is that, you know, there's a bigger invention than vaccines. How about the toilet? Like if you put toilets and sewage systems in Africa right now and the, you know, sewage systems in Africa right now and the problem. places we're talking about, we might see very different outcomes. We can't go back to the dark ages because so much has changed in our society that are part of this. But the smallpox conversation, you know, is there a fear? Should we fear? I mean, do we even, I mean, how many places vaccinate for

smallpox any longer? I think it only has to be voluntary, somebody who wants it, probably military if you're no. I don't think right now it's really used because I think that the reputation of that smallpox vaccines is so awful because even doctors that are still alive today like Dr. Thomas Mack who we quote in the book is talking about the severity of the smallpox vaccine, how it's not an easily transmissible. This is a regular pro-vaccine doctor, okay? It's not an easily transmissible virus. It travels on large droplets. And And the best way to get it is to embed yourself in the bed sheets of somebody who'd had it. Okay, so it's not like you can just sneeze and get it from somebody in the room.

Doctors rarely caught it from their patients. I mean, that's a lot of what's in the companion book is talking about the actual contagion rate that happened. But one thing that's another consistency in vaccination history is that the mortality rates for the different diseases going up after the vaccines are deployed. So look at COVID, okay? But the same thing happened with smallpox. The mortality rate for smallpox rose after the vaccine was introduced. If you understand how that vaccine was created and that it's still the same genetic strain that was used today in today's vaccines, they were basically taking pus from the utter of a cow, scraping it into a human,

combining that with pus from a corpse of a human, mixing it together, putting it into a rabbit, it, then putting it into a human, then doing arm-to-arm vaccination, and passing the supposed pure lymph around from animal to person and back again because they thought if they added it back into the animal population and then brought it back to humans that it would be a stronger vaccine and it would be so much better. So it was always anybody's guess what was in there, but what we do know is that it was loaded with fungus. It was loaded with bacteria. Sometimes the bacterial count were higher than the viral counts in that vaccine. So I think, you know, one of the biggest questions we have to have is how could that concoction of scum have eradicated anything and it didn't um it didn't

eradicate smallpox what about as you alluded to is eradicated smallpox was sanitation and isolation of sick people okay that's the most important thing we have to get out of tovd we don't isolate the well people we isolate sick people and we treat them appropriately uh and that's how we got rid of smallpox now if you now today monkeypox is is back okay it looks exactly like smallpox. Back in the day when people were making these diagnoses, they wouldn't have been doing genetic testing on them. So chicken pox, smallpox, monkey pox, goat pox, horsepox, cowpox, would have all looked the same to these people. And it's very well known that smallpox would follow the vaccination very easily. There was no, as you talk about controlled studies, because I was listening to your show earlier. There are no controlled studies done on the smallpox ever.

Wow. Wow. Wow. That's, I mean, it's just, it's really amazing. how, you know, I guess as they say, history is written by the victors, right? The medical establishment seems that won at least the last several rounds of the public health discussion and have rewritten the history, which is why, you know, your book is so incredible because you cite all the doctors giving firsthand accounts of the problems they're seeing with the vaccines, not using it. You had, you know, what is it, the Leicester? I always say that wrong.

what is the Leicester experiment, the city in Leicester in England that, you know, sort of refused the vaccine and went with a program of just isolation and really had the best results of almost, you know, in any city in the world around that issue. And so, you know, you made a statement that there's no vaccine that is safe and effective, I think, and there never will be. I suppose I haven't even gone that far necessarily, which is, is it just not possible to make the concept of vaccination work? Because I will say, you know, Edward Jenner, for what it's worth, I think he, you know, was inspired. He had a, it's a beautiful concept that somehow we could take a lesser form of a disease and avoid ever having the tragedy of having gone through it. But, you know, in the end, what is it about that process that is so incredibly flawed and can't be overcome in the modern world? Okay. Well, I first want to start by saying that in Edward Jenner's time, tuberculosis was by 100 times higher killer than smallpox.

So I'm not there. I can't judge Edward Jenner's heart, but I can say that he probably became very wealthy, very quick, and very famous. very quickly for doing what he did and he wasn't combating a disease that was as bad as we are told and it was a disease that could have been combated in another way and when the when his first subjects died of consumption which was very common after the smallpox vaccination he should have been alerted that maybe it was something he was doing and that was a pattern but he was you know basically turned into a god and then so that the reputation of vaccination start up and then you know we have one vaccine after another coming on the scene. And then we have 1986. And after 1986, the pharmaceutical

companies were then empowered to carry on, expand their technologies, start making recombinant DNA and plasmid vaccines and things like that. And now today, in my opinion, with all the technology we have, I think the safety profile has gone down significantly. So now we can now make, oh, these wonderful vaccines on tobacco plants, these green vaccines. Oh, we're not going to require products to do any of it so we're going to limit that problem well we have fungus problems we have all kinds of problems that can occur in growth this is an early industry they actually did make a COVID vaccine on tobacco plant but it was discontinued because they didn't want to give Philip Morris any credibility the

world health okay apparently they do have some morals beyond me but anyway so I think that the safety profile has gone way down like I'm sorry I know a lot of people especially people that live you and people with autistic children had problems with the measles vaccine, but give me a measles vaccine any day over a COVID vaccine. And what we're looking at in the future is now because there's free reign on these pharmaceutical companies. They can literally come up with a vaccine for a new supposed disease in four weeks.

So that's a real boon to the industry. And they can just keep going. What kind of, they don't ever, well, once in a while they lose a case. But for the most part, they're getting away with it. So the more they're getting away with it, the more money they're getting, the more profit there is, the more investors they have that bought the media. So goodness for media outlets like you, because that's really the biggest problem that we face is that people still out there thinking that the coach, I have some patients that now have been jabbed six times for COVID and still don't they think everything's okay in the world. It's incredible, really, that a product can fail that bad, yet there's a belief that somehow there's some value to it.

We just covered recently one of the most terrified, I don't even know if you're aware of this or not, but one of the most terrifying stories we've done is this advancement in self-spreading vaccines. This idea that they're really looking, and they felt like they had the technology could have been used during COVID, probably will be used very soon in whatever next pandemic is declared, and this idea that they're going to basically give a vaccine that sheds and so that everyone will get it to get to people like you and me that just would rather, you know, just rather, you know, stick with nature and, you know, have our family stick with nature, which has been so effective for healthy people in developing lifelong immunity. They want to rob us of that opportunity.

It's really a horrifying idea. And to me, at the center of it is this sort of God complex, clearly, that now you're going to literally just start, man-made viruses to sweep the world that you think are better and safer than the natural viruses. And that's just a level of insanity that can't, you mean, it's mind blowing. Well, and it's not new either because the live polio vaccines were just that. So a child or an adult or whoever would swallow this vaccine and at the other end would come some of that, some of that live virus, but also whatever mutated through the gut. And so that's the problem you have with self-spreading or live viral vaccines is that the immune pressure that the body puts on it creates mutants.

And so that's what we're looking at if we're going to be talking about live or self-spreading vaccines. It's nothing new. All the live viral vaccines, the flu shots, the inhaled flu shots can do that. And yeah, they're looking at doing mucosal shots, mucosal, like even eyeball vaccines dropping into the eyeball to stimulate. but they don't want to stop the old ones that's really interesting so look into this is that when they come up with these new ones they don't want to stop the old vaccines they're going to add them on so that when it comes to say the flu shots or the protect vaccines they want to have mucosal vaccines but they but when you hear fouchy talk about it and he wrote this paper was essentially like a confession in 2002 or 23 and he says we're just

going to add these mucosal vaccines on because we're failing at the mucosal interface the nose the eyes, the lung surface. We're not getting good immunity there. So we're going to start vaccinating people through that. And that's what a lot of these self-spreading vaccines would be. You once had a quote. I mean, I can put you in the spot, but I once asked you a question. I have shared your response many, many times. I asked you, you know, what is it about the education system for doctors, the medical school that trains the critical thinking out of the doctors? Do you remember what your response was when I asked that? Or I can quote it.

I don't want to put you on the spot, but it's something that I just, I've always remembered. Do you remember what you said? No. Okay, you said, and it stuck with me, you said, it's not that we're training out the critical thinking and doctors. We're selecting for people that don't critically think, that the medical education system,

through all of its testing, its sleep deprivation, and all of the things that it does chooses people that can just, like, parrot the information. We'll read and just, like, cut and paste what they understand. That you remember in med school, there's a person raising their hand, challenging the question, but why would that make sense? Isn't there another way?

You said those people that sort of raise their hand and speak out or question the establishment have such a difficult ride through med school that they rarely get there. And so what you have is an army of people that never, ask questions, but simply cut and paints the answers that they were told that they should focus on. And I really, do you still feel that? Is this, is that feel like it accurate? I don't want to be misquoted you. Is that, you know? No, no, no. I need to answer. Why didn't I think of that? Yeah. So it's basically, you know, when you go through

medical school, I always equate it to like a sip of water through a fire hose. You know, you're just, you're just so overwhelmed with information all the time. And yes, they're not a lot of critically thinking people that go, they're critically thinking within a narrow realm, I should say. You're not going to find a lot of inventors and entrepreneurs that go through medical school. That's actually been proven by psychologists. It's like you're going to find people who basically are good citizens. They obey. They want to do what's right. They want to help people. And they're also told that what they're learning there is the best possible thing. And they're paying sometimes now up to a million dollars to get it.

So who's going to want to go through that and say, oh, that's a bunch of people. rubbish i'm good i've got to get out well i did i mean but it's it doesn't happen very often that somebody does that um and i think it's mostly because they've got you know wives or husbands and children that they they still have to pay the mortgage and how are you going to go home and go well my basically my income's going to go down to zero for a while until i can work this out i don't think a lot of people are willing to do that i happen to be able to do it because i didn't have all these people to support um and i threw all my money into my loans i see i'm the one to my leg off to get free um And I just don't think that's typical either.

But I was an older student when I went through medical school, and I had a different kind of a background than a lot of the people that were around me. But there are other doctors like me. I mean, you meet them all the time. And I think there's more and more, there always have been people like me who, despite, you know, the gas lighting and the threats and everything else, that we still move forward because anything that's that important is worth pretty much everything,

as far as I'm concerned. And I know there are lots of other doctors that feel the same. Then, and that will, you know, my final question, really, through COVID, in many ways, you know, there's been very few doctors bold enough to step out. And when you did, obviously, you got all the ridicule. You were standing alone. Sherry Tenpenny had a moment. You did, Dr. Andrew Wakefield.

But it was a very small group of people. During COVID, that really sort of expanded in a major way. So many world-renowned doctors, the leading heart. doctor in the world doctor Peter McCullough spoke out one of the inventors of the MR and tech mrna technology you know spoke out and so you know you look at Robert Malone you look at all these and I was on I was like sort of helping with a panel for Ron Senator Ron Johnson was like 25 of these doctors all there and I said I just want you to know though you're all brand new to this you're riding on the backs of

giants like dr. Andrew Wakefield Suzanne Humphreys that are not here today but just no every one of you probably called them crazy, and now you find yourself in this position. Thank you for being here. But are you feeling that sort of shift, that there is a sense of support? There are more and more really high-level doctors and scientists that have had enough and are putting it all on the line. Do you have that sense when you're watching this, or, and do you think it's going to make a difference?

Yeah. Yeah, you know, there's no doubt that the tyranny of COVID has woken up people in all sectors of society, including physicians. And what I'm seeing is there are a few different areas there. So we have some physicians who woke up and just feel exactly like me. It takes about six months if you really just start reading to go, oh, just a big lie. And there's no vaccine that's worth giving. And it took me about six months to get there. Now, I'm seeing a lot of physicians today waking up, and they're thinking that this is the only thing.

bad vaccine and that the other ones were still well tested and well proven and everything else is good and that's kind of how they rationalize and can kind of keep their little world worldview going. Those are the doctors that actually concern me. So, you know, I really, I salute and my hat is off to the doctors who are waking up for real now and maybe even staying in the system and challenging it at the same time or leaving the system and challenging from the outside. But there's no doubt that because of the tyranny of COVID that, you know, more people than ever, I think everywhere have woken up. Even people who've taken the shot, you know, sitting there going, well, I really wish I hadn't

had done that. And now that I understand, you know, if you look at people like Kevin McCurnin, who is a, you know, geneticist and the things that he's saying, I think that's some of the most profound information coming out altogether. His substack is totally worth subscribing and reading, you know. If you can sit and listen to him talk and not get it, then good luck to you. You're right. Absolutely. Look, I can't wait to get this new limited edition, 10th anniversary of one of the most important books on vaccinations ever written, especially if you're looking into the past and what happened with polio and smallpox.

And you want to be able to stand in that conversation. There's no better book. Where do we find your book right now? How do we buy it? Okay, I believe that it's currently available as of today. You can go to Dissolvingillusions.com and all the information on where to order it. We're using a publisher called GHP Media, which is out of New Haven, Connecticut, so the printer that we're using now. And there'll be a link to Terrapin Stationers.com when you go on to Dissolvingillusions.com. All the options of where to buy it. You can buy it on Amazon still.

you want to do but if you want another option we now have it and all three versions are available in both places all right well thank you so much del um thank you for your um you know you're supporting the book and and the information and all the kindness over the years i was Suzanne i miss you i got to say it's been a while it was such a pleasure to watch the videos this morning and to get to speak with you here thank you for your continued work we are really going to promote this book it's very very important for a brand new and gigantic audience worldwide that want the questions answered that you handle in this book. So thank you for your work.

Thank you for your voice. Thank you for being one of the great women in history that has made the ability to wake up around probably the most controversial topic in the world. You've made it easier. You've made it comprehensive. And you've brought the receipts, as they say, the facts. It's an honor to know you. And next time you're, you know, around our neck of the woods. I hope to stop in and maybe we can do this in person.

That's definitely a plan. Thank you, Del. All right. Take care. Thank you. Bye. All right. Bye.

Well, you know, Suzanne was such a big part of traveling with Vax. And of course, Vax, which puts me in the center of this conversation, was really all about the MMR vaccine and autism. And I'm not going to get deep into that issue. There's lots of different environmental factors that are probably involved with autism, all of which we research and talk about all the time. But in this space of autism, and that I've been focused on for nearly a decade now,

probably the most unbelievable miracle in advancement I've seen is through spelling to communicate, a way to, you know, work with people that are dealing with autism in helping them sort of break out of that cage that they're stuck in and find a way to communicate. I've watched it with my own eyes. I have watched, you know, 18, 19, 20-year-old adults that were considered nonverbal. I knew them for years. And now I am watching them go to college. I'm watching them be valedictorians. I am watching them suddenly with just a couple of years, you know, dealing with calculus. It's so unimaginable and so brilliant that it's impossible to describe. We had the documentary featured here on our show, Spellers.

And for those of you that might have missed it, here's just a look at a part of what that was all about. This is the Highwire's live broadcast of the documentary. Spellers. There are 31 million non-speakers in the world. That means 31 million people have not found their voice. My best friend has a nonverbal child and all these kids are just brilliant beyond words and I'm just very inspired, just moved me to tears. My son is six, he's non-speaking and I heard if they were doing the premiere here today and I decided to come out because I just feel like I needed to be here to learn. We have a six-year-old son, Tuck, who is nonverbal and severely autistic.

Seeing them actually do it, they were intellectually answering every question. Like, me and my wife are just like bawling. We can't wait to go home and continue training with him. It's amazing. Your son is strong. You should expect him to soak up information and spell each day for short sessions. He will surprise you. One thing that struck me was how different each individual was.

The humor that came out. I just want to know how you learn to read. Elizabeth Type. The CNN ticker. Wow. Being in the live audience, it's obvious that these spellers are doing the work. I know these kids can spell. So if they can spell, they can do this, right?

The rest is just motor skills. At what age should I, as a practitioner, be sort of pushing this? I started at five and could have done it earlier. Wow. presume competence always and know that our bodies don't always listen to us. I just love that these kids finally have a voice and we're able to really know what they're thinking and how they're feeling. It just gives me even more hope that my son's way smarter than I give him the capability of and that one day he will be able to tell us how he feels. Believe in all non-speakers and presume competence always.

Everybody needs to see this movie, every ABA therapist, every speech therapist, every educator needs to see see this movie. Elizabeth typed. Help is on the way. Communication for all will be a reality. The blind have braille and the deaf sign language. All non-speakers will spell and type. Well, I'm so happy to be joined now by the co-founder of the Spellers Method,

Don Marie Gavin. Thank you for joining us today as we celebrate great women in the medical health space. This truly is like watching a miracle. Thank you, Doug. Yeah. So, you know, we, the documentary was a huge hit, but the Spellers have been touring. There's all sorts of great stuff they're up to.

So I just wanted an update on sort of what's the latest, greatest from this incredible, you know, group of young people that are, you know, really forging a path forward for people on the spectrum around the world. So what's the latest? What are we up to? Well, the latest and greatest is that several of the cast members of Spellers, the documentary, as well as a few other non-speakers, are on the board. They are the board for Spellers Freedom Foundation, which is a 501c3.

So they run the organization, and they actually partnered. Several of these folks have partnered with Golden Road Brewing, and we created a beer, which is launching on Tuesday, World Autism Day, which is a fundraiser. And the money raised for all the net proceeds, Golden Road is donating back to Speller's Freedom Foundation, and all the proceeds are going to families who need scholarships in order to get the training

so they can become communication partners for their child or their loved one. So that's the latest and greatest big project. Well, hold on. Let's go ahead and see the commercial as it air. Take a look at this, everybody. So we make a point to not advertise products on this show, but this is one that I have no problem getting behind.

First of all, I love beer. And second of all, like, why wouldn't we? So where are we going to be able to find this beer? Where is it, where's it being produced and offered? Well, for this year in the month of April, it's only available in Southern California, but we want people going into their local markets and demanding it. Okay. Because then it will hopefully get onto the fall resets, be back on the shelves in the fall

and start spreading nationwide. Golden Road has agreed to collaborate with Speller's Freedom Foundation, next year and hopefully we'll be making a beer every year with them because this has been part of another project that which is we've created a spin-off from the movie Spellers the documentary families were dying for more they just wanted after this movie came out they said you know we want to hear more stories there is more to this revolution and Pat Natarro who is the producer and director of the film he and Evan Rogers who is the editor came to us and said we've got

this great idea to create a series And so we filmed five episodes, five more episodes like the documentary, and it's called Underextimated, The Heroic Rise of Non-Speaking Spellers. This episode that we filmed with the beer collaboration happens to be episode three, and it was about inclusion. And from day one, we literally, we had spellers across the country joining Zoom calls, where we actually, with their help, they came up with the name of the beer, they came up with the flavor for the beer liquid, and then four spellers.

as featured in the commercial, came in person to Anaheim and worked these four right here, Jamie and William and Page and Victor. And they worked repeatedly with the marketing team, the brewmasters, everyone, until this beer truly came to life. It's 100% their creation. The Golden Road folks, I don't think, had ever worked with anyone with non-speaking autism before. But it's just a testimony to what communication does for people, right?

Well, yeah. And you've got that series. I think we've got a trailer for it. The series coming up. Take a look at this, everybody. It's a hazy IPA. You can't see through it. How do you move beyond the haze

to actually see it very clearly? This project brought the soul of the business alive. You catched the revolutionary field. We'd rather give back and have the focus on the people who are receiving and on the people who are giving. Communication should be the expectation. Damn, we are good.

Amazing. Boy, that looks inspiring. So I understand that that's going to be launched. You have a launch party coming up. Tell me a little bit about that. Yes, so Tuesday World Autism Day. You can actually watch it from home if you go to SpellersfreedomFoundation.org. Right at the top of the page, you'll see how to join the virtual watch party.

If you're in Southern California, by all means, come to Golden Road Brewery. But we're having the launch party. We're going to show episode three one time on that virtual launch on Tuesday night. And then the whole series is available for pre-sale right now, starting today on underestimated.tv. The episodes will start to release May 26th, and you'll see one episode per week for five weeks. But like I said, Tuesday nights, the launch party, the beer launch and the series launch, and you can join from home.

Before I let you go, I mean, I actually, this whole spell is for the show, phenomenon's blown my mind and I will on occasion walk up to someone I see in a grocery store or something if I see you know the child's got headphones on and just ask them if they're aware of spelling to communicate have they seen Speller as the documentary and I will promote that to just say you should take a look at it and one of the things that You know I've heard is just people wonder but will it work for my child some people saying my child's incredibly you know has real violence issues or or is just, just has such a difficulty with the movements in their body. I just don't know how this would work. Or they're already, you know, speaking a little bit. They use some words, and I just feel like they're already communicating on some level.

This isn't necessary. What are your thoughts in sort of those scenarios when someone comes to you about that that are looking? Is Speller's right for my child? Yeah, it's a natural question. Everyone thinks that their child's going to be the one it doesn't work for, right? And we are afraid to get our hopes up. Certainly the first thing we tell people is if your child is non-speaking, if they're unreliably speaking, they might script or repeat movie phrases or they're minimally speaking so they can't

have conversation with you, then they absolutely would benefit from bypassing using their articulators, using their fine. muscles of speech of their mouth and their tongue and their jaw and using the shoulder to point to letters. So 100% this is what this method is for. It will help even those who have some speech communicate more robustly. It's most confusing when kids have no speech at all because people think, well, he can say this, this, and this, he can request. And we're like, no, there's so much more, that's like the tip of the iceberg. There's so much more language underneath there that they're not able to access through the fine motor skills of speech. So that's who it's really useful for. Back in 2021, Dana Johnson and I,

she's a PhD OT from Tampa, Florida, my business partner. We embarked on Spellers Method, which built on previous spelled method communication methodologies where we bring in occupational therapy and developmental optometry and really addressing what you brought up, which is some of the more complex motor situations or cases or folks, Down syndrome, very different development, developmental optometry needs there with vision.

And how do we make sure that spelling to communicate and spelled communication is available to all? So it's much, it's more inclusive and it's more accessible, no matter the motor profile. Where does someone go that wants to look into this for a loved one or friend or in their family? Sure, I would say for sure the main website, which is simply spellers.com,

but we also have a Facebook group called Spellers Community. And it's really run by parents, because at the end of the day, autism parents, trust autism parents. Right? So they want to hear from other parents who've done this. And those of us who are practitioners moderate to make sure the information being relayed is accurate, but mostly it's just parents giving advice to other parents. So Spellers community, the Facebook group, but Spellers.com for more information about our services,

our online classes and even our in-person immersion programs. All right. Don Marie, thank you for joining us for that amazing update. you're doing such incredible work. And this is, you know, there's so many people that are, I think, are ready to have their lives change across the world, ready to go to universities, ready. They just don't know, well, they know it, but their parents don't know it, right?

Their caretakers don't know it, which is why we've got to get the word out. This is just such a profound, I'm going to just keep saying it, it's a miracle. And I know that all it really is is a discovery, finally understood what's happening, here but you're truly a hero. Thank you for all the work that you're doing and all the lives you're changing every day. Thank you. Thanks for having me. All right, take care. Well, I mean, it's just an inspiring show to do to get to celebrate all these brilliant women that throughout history have been bringing us the truth. And the fact that, you know, time and time again, we just see truth under attack. You know, and I know we talk. We talk

about that dream of when are we going to finally evolve as a people where the new idea the Galileo is allowed to say you know what as it turns out I've done some computations and the earth isn't the center of the universe when are we going to stop putting that person under house arrest when are we going to stop taking their license away when are we going to stop moving them out of the department in the case of the NIH, when you discover that it appears there is, you know, a rise in polio amongst those getting the vaccine or that there's a simian retrovirus. When are we going to live in a world? And especially when are we going to live in a country here in America that shows the world we actually celebrate innovation. We celebrate new ideas.

And maybe we don't just jump at the thought, but we say, huh, very, very important. interesting, maybe we should do a little bit more research on that. Or how about when we actually finally do, you know, get the story across, when we really start seeing that people are waking up, when we go as far as to year upon year upon year, talk to our representatives and get them to finally understand what we're talking about, that there can be no freedom in the United States of America if we don't have any control over our own bodies. If we lose informed consent, which is the heart of modern medicine, and we can be forcibly injected with whatever the government wants, we're not free citizens. We're farm animals. It's the right of a farm animal. If I don't

get to decide what's happening to my body, then forget it. What other right do I have? Well, you know, usually I like to stay really positive, but we do have to address a big, serious bummer that happened yesterday. I have spent so much time in Mississippi and West Virginia very early on in the vast years, going to those state capitals, promoting the idea that you should have a religious exemption. It was lost so long ago, you should have it. Many of you know we won the religious exemption back from Mississippi last year. Well, just this week, we finally, through legislation, people went to their politicians, you know, many that we know when we were giving advice, like, how do you get there? They were able to get a law in place, a bill through Congress, through Senate, that was going to start this process, starting with a religious exemption being available in West Virginia to all private school children. It made it through both houses, assembly and the Senate, and was sitting on the governor's desk.

And last night, in the final hour that he could, he vetoed that bill. Jim Justice, may you never be forgotten for overriding the will of the people. We were, you know, we know that while he was sitting in his office, the pharmaceutical lobbyists of the world descended upon him. It was being reported that they were relentless in saying that our concerns, our lobby, we matter more to you than the people of your state that nominated all the assembly members and senators that just voted to give you a right to make a choice. We override that. We are the powerful lobby and you better not go against us.

How sick and tired are you of a government that works like that? That's not for the people, by the people. That's for the corporations, the multi-bushableness. billion dollar industry that owns our NIH, owns our CDC, refuses to celebrate the Bernadine Healey's, moves them out of the departments when they try to tell us the truth, lies about their V-Safe data, which we now know was killing people, the vaccine. That lobby, that lobby must end. This approach to governance in the United States of America must end.

Let this be the last time we ever watch politicians. down to the powers of the pharmaceutical industry or any industry, for that matter, over the people. Do you know how hard we work to be here? Do you know how hard the citizens of West Virginia and all of those great groups, all of you mothers out there? You know how hard they work to finally get enough assembly members and enough senators to finally understand this situation, only to have one really weak shill bow down to corporations. May we never forget this day.

We cannot let this happen any longer. Be very aware of what your politicians are up to and what they're doing. This is what we're doing on the high wire. We're informing. And I need your help. Let's do it together. Let's not let West Virginia, sorry, ever happen again. We'll keep talking about this issue.

We'll keep covering it with all the fervor and all the science that is necessary. And I'll see you next week. on the high wire before I die joking take care