The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 373: DAY OF RECKONINGG

Episode Date: May 25, 2024

Bombshell Admissions from Francis Collins in Closed-Door Meeting; Jefferey Jaxen Reports on the COVID Public Health Scandal being exposed by the Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic, and massive conflicts of interest in the Pharma/Medical Apparatus are exposed; XClear Founder’s Company is Last One Standing in Fight against FTC Attack on his effective product; ‘Plandemic: The Musical’ Set for Premiere in Austin.Guests: Philipp Kruse, Esq., LLM; Nate Jones; Mikki Willis & DPAKBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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All right, everyone, we ready? Yeah. Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out onto the high wire. Over the last several weeks, we've really been covering a story that is unfolding by the day. If you think of this as the court of public opinion, the high wire has been. laying out a case that began really in 2017 when the show started about fraudulent science

around vaccines, vaccine safety, vaccine science, and then COVID hit and played right into our hands. We were one of the only networks that is laid out from the beginning, all the fraud as it was taking place, predicting how it would and pointing out to you how the news was completely misrepresenting the known science and the cover-ups that was happening from everything from and the emergency use authorization to the Wuhan Lab League. Well, now it is all coming apart at the seams. And as we predicted many years ago,

ultimately the rats will start jumping ship, and then they'll start attacking and turning each other in. It's really the basis of what a RICO case would be, which is a completely corrupt system in which everybody is a part of it, everyone is linked to another person, and once one domino starts falling, they all begin to fall and that's exactly what we're seeing this week in the hearings that are taking place in Washington, D.C. One of the big characters we reported on is Francis Collins,

the head of the NIH throughout COVID. This is a guy that always comes across as mild-mannered and soft and seems like a sweet guy and likes to act like he's really not quite aware of everything that is going on, especially when he's playing his guitar. But this week, he was in front of the same. He was in of a hearing discussing exactly how the hearing would have to go. He was asked some questions. They weren't on camera, but they were recorded and they've been written down. Let's just go through a couple of these questions and the answer, shall we? As you get to watch, the wheels coming off of this ship. Exclusive former NIH head, Francis Collins admits COVID origins not settled. No science to back social distance guidance. Well, we've already heard that from

from Tony Fauci, but here's how it went. All it's calling for is a yes or no is the possibility of a lab leak conspiracy theory. Collins, you have to define what you mean by a lab leak. Again, the question, putting aside de novo, the possibility of a laboratory or research-related accident, a researcher doing something in a lab, getting infected with a virus, and then sparking the pandemic. Is that scenario, a conspiracy theory? Collins, not at this point. Oh, how things have changed. On March 22nd, 2020, the CDC issued guidance

describing social distancing to include remaining out of congregant settings, avoiding mass gatherings, and maintaining a distance of approximately six feet from others when possible. We asked Dr. Fauci, where the six feet came from, and he said it kind of just appeared is the quote. This is how this is set up. Now, remember, this is the entire science behind locking down our nation for the first time ever. The first time we have ever quarantined healthy people. Normally a quarantine is six people, I mean, is, is among sick people. And if you think about the squares that were the circles that were pasted on sidewalks outside of stores, standing apart, all of this certainly had something to do in science, or were we just some part of a giant

grand joke and scheme? Well, the question came before. The head of the highest funding, scientific body in America. Do you recall science or evidence that supported the six foot distance? Collins, I do not. Is that I do not recall or I do not see any evidence supporting six feet. Collins, I did not see evidence. But I'm not sure I would have been shown evidence at that point. I was not involved in that conversation. Final question. Since then, since that moment, Till now, it has been an awfully large topic. Have you seen any evidence since then supporting six feet? Collins, no.

The entire basis of shutting down our nation, destroying our kids' education, keeping them six feet from each other, plastic everywhere you go as though viruses don't go over plastic. All that insanity in restaurants. I remember once walking through the door, forgetting I was supposed to be wearing a mask. No, screams the guy behind the bar as he jumps over, rushing to us, your masks, your masks, your masks. I remember putting it on. He grabbed three menus, turned to a booth four feet away, sat us down and said, Now you can take off your masks. We all lived through that insanity.

And even then, I was asking, yes, the bartender, can you explain that science to me? knowing it did not exist. Well, now it's all falling apart because there is no science. And the high wire stood while we were attacked by virtually every major news source, saying that we were the one spreading misinformation by saying that there was no science behind social distancing, that the vaccine would not stop transmission, that it looked like this could very well be a lab leak, lab origin virus, not a natural virus. For all these things, we were attacked before anyone was covered.

it. And let me remind you, in case it seems like Francis Collins really didn't have his hands on this stuff and was just a bystander at the most prestigious, highest funded organization or non-profit, actually not a nonprofit government agency, the NIH. There's just to remind you some of the emails that have come through FOIA. This is a government official attempts to stipulate a lab leak hypothesis. This is an email from Dr. Francis Collins to Tony Fauci. I'm wondering if there is something NIH can do to help put down this very destructive conspiracy with what seems to be growing momentum. Referring to, I hope the nature medicine article on the genomic sequence of SARS-CoV-2 would settle this, but probably didn't get much visibility. Anything more

we can do? Ask the National Academy to weigh in, something like that. Of course, he's talking about lab origin. Look at this line, wondering if there's something NIH can do to help put down as though killing an animal. Kill this thing now. What can the NIH do to kill this science right now? Does that sound like unbiased research? Sounds very biased to me going out of your way. And when they say, well, we probably, he said recently, we should, we probably should have had more scientists at the table that had a different perspective, but we just didn't know what was going on. Well, remember this that came through FOIA when it came through the great Barrington Declaration written by Dr. Martin Koldorf, Dr. Shnetra Gupta, Dr. J. Badacharya, Oxford, Stanford, Harvard.

This is what Francis Collins said about their proposal that it was going to be more dangerous, that there was no science. By the way, this is what they're saying. There's no science behind making people stand six feet apart. There's no science behind locking people down. We've never done it before. it's going to do more harm than the virus itself. This is what he said. This proposal from the three fringe epidemiologists from some of the most esteemed universities in the world who met with the secretary seems to be getting a lot of attention. Once again, he hates these ideas that are getting attention and even a co-signature from Nobel Prize winner Mike Leavitt at Stanford. There needs to be a quick and devastating published takedown once again of its premises. I don't see anything like that online. yet. Is it underway? Can we help? Can we be a part of this lie? Can we shut down all the science that's saying, geez, this sure looks like it has lab origin? And now in testimony, what is he

saying? Did you ever see evidence? Is it really a conspiracy? No. Now that none of my emails seem to have worked and enough of you investigated it, you can't handle the truth. Okay, we lied to the world is what is happening in Washington, D.C., daily mail. There needs to be a quick and devastating takedown. Emails show how Fauci and head of NIH work to discredit three experts who penned the Great Barrington Declaration. Now you get it. And boy, wait to see what Jeffrey has coming. It's only just the beginning. So what's going to happen? I believe what we're seeing is history in the making. We're proud here at the high wire to have been on this before anyone else was. And those who've been watching all this time, you know the track record that we have.

It's not that we're psychic. We weren't lucky, as Bill Amar said, we didn't roll dice on this. We followed science from all around the world. We've been delivering science that goes back decades that leads to this moment that we're at. We've been following the trajectory of all the interest groups and well-funded nonprofit. and NGOs that have been manipulating the science for years. We've shown you how that's being done and how it all comes together. That's what we do here at the high wire.

When you think of a conspiracy, a small organization deciding to rule the world or rule a group of people or put forward a lie that controls people, I suppose there's not another theory bigger or group bigger than the WHO, who as we know right now is looking to sign the treaty. The pandemic treaty in order to the proposal for the WHO pandemic agreement, we've talked about this a lot, a set of rules set out to essentially allow them to decide whenever the next pandemic is coming. And of course, it comes along with the international health regulations that will kick in the moment they say that we're under attack by another virus because they got this last one

so, right? Why not just put them in charge of the world? Why don't we just take down all the sovereignty of every nation because the W.H.O. is the one that should be in charge of the world. When they decide that we're in trouble, well, that is all going into hearings and is going to be signed or ratified or not signed starting this week. And at the heart of that is going to be a march by people from all over the world, just like you, just like me, saying, oh, hell no, in Geneva, Switzerland, You may want to think about going because it's going to look something like this. Join thousands of freedom lovers from all across Europe and indeed the world as we travel to Geneva for the 1st of June for the We Are the Change rally, where we will powerfully say no to the WHO and yes to our freedoms and our future.

Join us on the road to Geneva to reclaim our democratic right to determine our future. On the day before May 31st, we will be hosting our inspired global leader. Summit where we bring in leaders in the Freedom Movement from all around the world to begin to do the work it takes to reimagine and redesign a healthcare system that serves the people. A group of 10 lawyers will inform you about the outcome from the 77th World Health Assembly regarding two pandemic treaties. Join us at the We Are the Change rally in Geneva. First, 2024, 1.30 p.m. Plastin Nation. We will declare our independence right across the street from the United

Nations Office in Cheever. Be there. At the center of a lot of the work all around the world is an attorney that has been just doing incredible work. Philip Cruz, who has even come to America to speak with the Ron Johnson hearings and is a part of really bringing truth in Europe to the entire situation. If you don't know who he is, then you haven't been paying attention. Next presenter is Mr. Philip Cruz. Now we will be hearing from Philip Cruz. He specialized in tax and in constitutional law. He is a law firm in Zurich and is admitted to all courts in Switzerland.

We are here today because we are all concerned by the World Health Organization's strong pressure to extend its powers with a permanent effect over the sovereignty of the countries and over the self-determination of the people. WHO is going to establish a classical totalitarian structure and wants to make sure that the value of the national constitutions become zero. Literally every aspect of global life can give rise to a public health emergency of international concern, whether it is climate change, whether it is bio-dictional,

diversity loss or ecosystem degradation. Where does it start? Where does it end? We are talking about mandatory testing methods by useless tools, mandatory travel restrictions, mandatory lockdowns, mandatory vaccinations with predefined experimental products, mass quarantines and so on. In May 2024, the 194 member states of the WHO will have their final vote on both of these international agreements. This process takes place

behind closed doors and at a tremendous speed the only answer to this development is a strong no and this no must come from all the people all over the world altogether. It's my honor and pleasure to be joined by Philippe Cruz right now. I mean this is this is a historic moment is it not I mean seems really important. This is absolutely right. Del Vigree, but it's first a great honor for me to be on your show. You have done such a great work during the past four years to enlightening people

and to bring true science to the people's homes and give you gave hope to so many people. Thank you so much for the great work you've been doing. Thank for the invitation. Absolutely. Yes, that's true. It is truly an historic moment because now we are right ahead of these votes or non-votes. We don't know what the 194 member states will ultimately decide next week. All options are on the table, the option of having a vote in favor of these two agreements,

or none of them will be voted upon and everything will be postponed. There is a tremendous tension and a tremendous anxiety on the side of WHO. So everything is open yet, and we see a growing number, of activists, a growing number of members of parliament who really truly oppose these two pandemic instruments. When does this all begin in Geneva, Switzerland? When do they start meeting? It starts officially coming Monday 27th of May. Okay. And then it goes all week. And so at that point, they can start rewriting and trying to, I mean, is it works sort of like, I think about, you know, our congressmen or senators get together at times and they start rejigging. and trying to see what they could all agree on.

Is that sort of how this process will work? Will there be people doing some rewrites all week long? It could well be. But it shouldn't be that way, actually. When we talk about the international health regulations, WHO should have submitted to all the member states already four months ago, the final version for the vote. That's the rule, according to the IHR themselves.

But they didn't do so. And they declared to continue. to continue negotiation until the very last moment. That's against their own rules. Wow. Now, there is some confusion. Maybe we can clear it up here. There's this sort of WHO pandemic agreement,

and then there's the IHR rule. What is the difference between these two documents? How do we think of them so that they, because they kind of meld together, even here, we haven't really gotten too much in the detail, but what is the difference between these two documents? Well, actually, they are technically, both international agreements. And the only new one here is the new pandemic treaty. Totally new

agreement needs a two-third majority for the vote to be adopted. The other international agreement is the international health regulations. And they are under a special regime because they are deemed to be just technical regulations. And therefore they have the privilege to be adopted just upon a 51% simple majority. And they will come in force by way of an automatism. You can do so only if you truly have only technical standards in there. But if you look at it, it is much more far reaching and inflicts everybody's life and even sovereignty of the governments.

So these new rules should actually not be in the IHR, international health regulations, but they should actually be put into the new pandemic treaty. If actually not, they should be seen as rewriting WHO's own constitution. Wow. Now, Tadros has said, you know, that this has all been overblown. There's all this misinformation saying that, you know, the WHO will somehow take over national sovereignty. This does nothing of the sort.

What do you say? I mean, that's the statement we've been making. Obviously, this is falling apart on him. We've been reporting on the fact that there's more and more member nations that have been jumping ship. But when he says that that's just false information, it has nothing to do with overcoming sovereignty in nations or taking charge, what do you say to that? Well, on the formalistic point of view, actually he is right. Because in the new pandemic treaty, you find the word sovereignty and wording that seems to protect sovereignty quite a few times. And also you find in the international health regulations reintroduced the protection of human rights.

But just by putting the words into these agreements doesn't mean that sovereignty and human rights are truly protected. So here's my critics. One of the most fundamental powers WHO will formally receive is to determine what will be the decision-making basis for governments. What will be the decision-making basis for doctors and for individuals? They will be allowed to determine where does the threat come from, what kind of threat does it is, whether people are sick or not, how to measure it, and what will be the solution. So think of it. If all the relevant elements of decision-making are predefined by an international organization and you are not allowed to take into account your own expertise, your own good scientists, that, is an element of depriving or giving up sovereignty.

And here it is the point, technically speaking, yes, it's not actually WHO who takes away our sovereignty, but our leaders are about to give it away, to allow WHO to deliver the decision-making basis for their countries. And that will lead us into disaster, because if we are in the future, continue to be told, Oh, look, dangerous coming from the left, but you will be saved. If you run to the right, everybody will run to the right.

So there's a form of control without the wording of legally binding recommendations, and that is truly dangerous. It's amazing. I mean, we always think the concept of failing forward. Right now we have essentially world dictators failing their way into control. I mean, when I look at how the pandemic was handled, overstating the death rate from the very beginning, which ended up being, you know, 0.35%. And that mostly was in a very specific group of elderly that had, you know, previous health

conditions that made them vulnerable. The idea that we gave the vaccine just this week, you know, Robert Redfield at the CDC said that he knew the vaccine was problematic and no one under the age of 50 probably should have received this. And yet where was the WHO? Where was the WHO on any of this? All the social distinctions, all the lockdowns, none of it now based in science. I'm sure you're watching these incredible hearings in Washington, D.C. right now where all of this evidence is coming forward.

And we realize the amount of lying and sabotage and fraud that was taking place. I'm going to be getting into that in just a minute. But tell me now about this event. What is taking place in Switzerland, in Geneva? And if people want to attend, you know, just tell me about. what we can expect from really the right side of this conversation, those that will be there to resist the WHO power grab. Yes, so the whole event is designed to send out a strong signal into the world.

We declare our independence from WHO. They have deceived us. They did not perform their constitutional duty to protect people's health. They did quite the opposite. So thereby, therefore, we declare our. independence in Geneva. The main event will be on the 1st of June. Yes, and here we see the road to Geneva. So that's a great call to everybody, take you a car or whatever transport you have going your way to Geneva and there is on that homepage very well

described where you can land, where you are where we will find safe places with your car, hotel and so on. And that's organized by Dan Astin Gregory. the great British journalist. And then the main event, before the main event, there will be on Friday, 31st of May, this global-inspired summit with great people coming there and having their discussions about how does the future look like. How do we want to rewrite the future in public health,

with great people coming? And then on Saturday morning, the lawyers, 7, 8 lawyers, from different countries will hold their press conference, given analysis of what has been concluded by the WHOHA World Health Assembly, and what shall we take from it? And then the main event starts in the afternoon, Saturday 1st of June in Geneva, Plastinacian, half past one.

And we will have a tremendous great list of speakers starting with Al-Sim, Mahatra. Maybe you will come as well. I'm going to be there. I've just rejiggered my entire schedule. When are you going to see all of these people in one place? Ryan Cole. This is what it's all about.

Huge, huge lineup. Absolutely. I would miss this for the world. Yeah. Yes, organized all of that by the phenomenal ladies, Maria Huma, Susie Olson, and Dr. Andrea Nazarenko. and you have seen the list of speakers. It is quite a challenge to put them all on stage, one off the other.

It's going to see them all. Guaranteed. Some of the most long-winded geniuses the world has ever seen. I know they're going to try to keep it contained. I also want to let everyone know, look, if you can get there, this is one of those moments. This is history in the making. This is international history where we actually get to stand up and make a difference. It's time to really let our voices be heard.

But if you cannot be there, obviously, it's a huge lift for a lot of people. We will be streaming live at the highwire.com, all the events on Saturday starting at 6.30 a.m. Central here in America. So just tune in the high wire to see all of these great speakers speaking for you, standing for truth and justice as Philip Cruz has been fighting for so long there. I look forward to seeing you out there. And, you know, this is what it's all about, right? I mean, I feel buzzed about it. And you really couldn't beat the timing, right? We're marching into Geneva while they're trying to say we deserve the power.

And here in America, hearings are uncovering that this entire thing may be one of the greatest science disasters in history, perhaps one of the biggest crimes ever conducted on the world. I look forward to seeing you there and discussing all of those things. Hopefully many people will be able to join us. Delbert, I look forward to seeing you there. It will be a great honor and pleasure to seeing you and to see everybody there as well. Thank you so much for the invitation. All right.

See you soon. Take care. All right. Well, I mean, we've just, it's really amazing that we're coming to this point. As you've been watching, we've been reporting WHO. The wheels are really coming off. This thing is going to be amazing how they try to put it all back together. You know, I've got a huge show coming up.

We've got Mickey Willis is coming in with his secret weapon. The musician behind Planned Demic the musicals, another huge screen. being scheduled. Of course, I'm talking about Deepak. There's another huge event scheduled here in Austin if you want to check it out. And I'm going to interview Nate Jones, which is he's, you know, the founder of one of the most successful natural health companies clear, which is the xylitol-based nasal spray. The federal government is now suing him. I imagine you can guess why. But he is standing his ground where many people have bowled over or walked away. He's taking on that fight. We're going to get into those details. But first is time for the Jackson Report.

All right, Jeffrey. These are some amazing moments we live in right now. Dell, for anybody that's been paying attention, especially over these last two weeks, it's becoming clear that we are watching perhaps the greatest public health scandal of our time from the U.S. government. What am I talking about? Well, let's just go right into this and unpack it because we have a lot of work to do here today. Let's look at Lawrence Tabick. Lawrence Tabick took over from Francis Collins as acting director of the National Institutes of Health at the height of the pandemic.

He was brought before the Select Subcommittee on the Corotan Virus pandemic last week. And, well, just check it out. Dr. Tabick, did NIH fund gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology through Echo Health? It depends on your definition of gain of function research. If you're speaking about the generic term, yes, we did. If you're speaking about the dictionary description, if you wanted to go to Tony Fauci's word salad description,

then maybe not some, I mean, I don't know what generic is supposed to mean, I guess the general term, yeah, okay? The buck stops here. And it's interesting because everyone's coming forward with these admissions, some of these are in emails, some of these are like Dr. Tabibet. just said they're just coming forward and it's interesting too that you know just a couple weeks ago the new york times and others have really just turned and started talking about vaccine injury

and started reporting on these things so they're here to catch this narrative as well so you can look and these are the headlines that are being created from the new york post from that from that lawrence tabic interview uh n i h official finally admits taxpayers funded gain of function research in wuhan after for years of denial. And so things move pretty fast here. The remaining semblance of sanity in the US government is acting on these developments. So if your EcoHealth Alliance,

you received a letter in the mail just last week from the Department of Health and Human Services, that is the overseeing agency, overseeing NIH, CDC, NIAID, and it looked like this. It says, this is to provide notification that on behalf of the United States Department of Health and Human Services, HHS, I have suspended and proposed for DeBarman EcoHeid.

Alliance, Incorporated from participating in United States federal government procurement and non-procurement programs. So they are suspending them. They are no longer able. That organization is no longer able to use tax dollars, American tax dollars, to fund these experiments. But just this week, just a couple days ago, Peter Dazick, the head of EcoHealth Alliance, received the same letter. So now his organization and he himself have been suspended and they're proposing department

of health and human services. But interestingly, it also says this, in both those letters, the Ego Health and DASIC says HHS believes there is adequate evidence in the record for this debarment cause and that immediate action is necessary to protect the public interest. Wow. I mean, this sounds like we're talking about a terrorist organization here. So what do they know? Essentially, whether on purpose or accidentally, they're building bio-weapons as we know it, funding gain-of-function research, taking bird flus and trying to make them deadly. and contagious and taking coronavirus, making them deadly and contagious and combining them all, making franken viruses, and then saying, no, we didn't do it. And well, now we know we did do it.

And so, I mean, thank God. But, you know, really, it's about time. We've had two presidents sitting on this after probably one of the most devastating lab leaks in history has taken place. And Senator Ram Paul has not been quiet either. He's seized on this opportunity this week, writing a letter to the Attorney General of the United States, Merrick Garland, and he is asking Garland this. He says, I write to urge the U.S. Department of Justice DOJ to open an investigation into the alleged improper concealment and intentional destruction of records by Dr. David Morin, senior advisor to the director at the National Institutes of Health. Dr. Morins has had several emails that have been publicly released now. He also just went before committee and testified regarding these emails. But let's not hear from him.

Let's hear from his emails when he thought no one was watching. So let's go right into this. Now, this email here, this first one, is from April of 2020. And this is from Dr. Morin's NIH to Peter Dazek, head of Equal Health Alliance. It says this. This is sent from my Gmail account. Please send all replies here to Gmail. So right there, Gmail can't be FOIA requested.

So he's trying to conceal it right there. He says, I have let Tony know, but have not spoken to him directly. There are things I can't say except Tony is aware, and I have learned that there are ongoing efforts within NIH to steer through this with minimal damage to you. It's talking to Peter Dazek. Wow. Peter and colleagues, and to NIH and NIAID. No guarantees, but let us hope.

I imagine this will be handled at the level of Francis and Tony within NIH, and I don't expect to be in the loop. What's he talking about? Well, if you look at the subject of that email, It says actions needed regarding, and there's a grant number. You type that grant number in, and this is what comes up. Understanding the risk of bat coronavirus emergence. This is Equal Health Alliance work.

They've received millions of dollars from NIH on this. And this is what they're trying to conceal. This is what they're trying to hide. And this is what they're trying to damage control in this email. He's assuring Peter Dazek that all this funding we gave you for the bat coronavirus emergent research that you did in the Wohon Institute of Virology. We're going to bat for you. So don't worry about that.

And it goes further. So check out this email. So this is from Peter. This is, again, from Dr. Morins to Peter Dazek. And he says this, Peter, from Tony's numerous recent comments to me and from what Francis have been vocal about over the past five years, they are trying to protect you, which also, which also protects their own reputations. Wow.

So this is, this is the United States government. This is NIH highest officials. talking to Peter Dazek. Basically, someone just received grant money. Do they go to the bat that hard for everybody? And now let's go into the FOIA requests, Freedom of Information Act request, something that ICANN has masterfully used over the years.

And this is actually the government's website on FOIA. We go to the U.S. government's website. It says, since 1967, the Freedom of Information Act, FOIA, has provided the public the right to request access to records from any federal agency, as Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court have all recognized the, FOIA is a vital part of our democracy.

If you turn on any mainstream channel, they are going on and on about saving our democracy. So keep that in mind. It's a vital part of our democracy. Now, let's see how Dr. David Morin's treats of FOIA, the vital part of our democracy. In his emails, he says this. P.S., now, by the way, this is 2021. He says, P.S., I forgot to say there is no worry about FOIAs. I can either send stuff to Tony on his private Gmail or hand it to him at work or at his

house. He is too smart to let colleagues and send him stuff that could cause trouble. Wow. That's to Peter Dazek. He's writing that too. Can you imagine what, what, first of all, what Tony Fauci and Francis Cowell is like, who is this idiot? Oh my God, who hired this moron? I mean, it just like, you know, with friends like this. Just stick to Gmail and all be okay. Trust me. I'm telling you everything, all of, you know, all of Francis's and Tony's secrets. I got it. We can talk about all day long. Just do it on Gmail. Amazing. And so this, it gets even worse.

This brings us to February 2021. And this is David Mourins again. And he says this. I learned from our FOIA lady here. I'm guessing he's talking about NIH, how to make emails disappear after I am foyered, but before the search starts. So I think we are all safe. Plus I deleted most of those earlier emails after sending them to Gmail.

Wow. And then just a day later, he goes on and says this, it's more. he's talking about this technique he has he says it's more in line of a government secret but too complicated to explain in an email but i learned the tricks last year from an old friend marge more who heads our foia office and also hates foias perfect talking institutional corruption let's put the person that hates foias in charge of foias great idea no erred if you're watching right now erin sear lorry now you know why it's so difficult to get any responses the person we're talking to hates foias as it turns out amazing so here's a

Here's Dr. David Morin's talking about government secret. He's Mr. Secret Agent Man. He's dodging FOIAs in the thick of things. But about eight months later, things changed. The tone of his email changed a little bit. He thought he was really clear from all of this. But look at this one. This is in October of 2021.

He writes, this is to Peter Dazek. He says, Peter, I just got news that a FOIA picked up an email. I sent you saying that Tony commented he was brain dead, of course however ron johnson is all over it and now after me tony will be pissed rightfully so i deleted that email but i now learned that every email i ever got since 1998 is captured and will be turned over whether or not i instantly deleted it and he goes he goes gmail phone text basically this is all i need this is how you get a hold of me oh my god can you imagine receiving that email like beaters loudly like

Oh, my God. I'm so screwed. This idiot. I don't know who you are. I don't know what you're talking about. Wrong number. How do you get out of this now? Frank caller, I don't know what you. David, we love you. We love you, David. It's guys like you that make my job so much fun. Keep up the good work, David. Well done. Well done. Real sharp tack. And that is Tony Fauci's senior advisor. Was, I guess, I should say. But this is what we're talking about. talking about high level conflicts of interest within the United States government. And so this is an ongoing story right now. It's still unfolding. A lot of networks are not covering this. Mainstream has not picked it up.

I've seen New York Post is doing a lot of work on this. But it has yet to really gain mainstream traction as it to a level it should have. I mean, we're talking a major scandal here. So let's go from the heights of the U.S. government to down to the individual doctors. Last week we reported it on UK doctor. the darlings of the media over there, Dr. Range, and we reported that he received 22,500 pounds from Astorzeneca. And that was still an unfolding story at that time. Now the headlines are looking like this regarding him exclusive. This is the mirror. TV doctor, Dr. Ranch failed to tell

BBC bosses about 22,500 pound Astrozenica advert before jabbed feature. And then we have Dr. Carl Hennigan and Dr. Tom Jefferson in The Daily Skeptic, and they're pushing on that neurodemeanor of a little harder. I love to see articles like this. Celebrity doctors being paid to promote vaccines is against the law. And it is there in the UK. So they lay out the evidence for that, really, really damning evidence. And why does this all matter? Well, because doctors that, when you have doctors being paid conflicts of interest in the medical community at scale, you have scandals. You have, the pump is primed to have major scandals. One of those that we've been covering is the opioid epidemic. And that was started by Purdue Pharma. And famously, they've had to pay billions of

dollars. But now a new organization is caught up in this and is paying criminal case of fines. This is endo health solutions. And they will pay over $1.5 billion in an opioid criminal case. And if we go into this article here, it says this. Officials said the case marked the second largest criminal penalties ever levied against a pharmaceutical company. Imagine that. The largest These came in the case of Purdue Pharma, which agreed to pay more than $5 billion in a criminal case connected to the opioid crisis. The Justice Department said the opioid manufacturer, Endo, had pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count on selling misbranded drugs. The company admitted that certain sales representatives touted supposed safety characteristics of its opioid opana, which weren't supported by clinical data. And, you know, we've done so much work on this. We could do flashbacks. We can talk about this, but it's actually written up in a medical journal here.

and it's a very concise description. This is the Journal of Bioethical Inquiry, and it says lessons from corporate influence in the opioid epidemic. And if you go in here, this really just kind of tells the whole story. It says there is overwhelming evidence that the opioid crisis,

which has cost hundreds of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in counting, has been created or exacerbated by webs of influence woven by several pharmaceutical companies. Opioid companies built these webs as part of corporate strategies of influence that were designed to expand the opioid market from cancer patients to larger groups of patients with acute or chronic pain to increase dosage as well as opioid use to downplay the risk of

addictions and abuse and to characterize physicians concerns about the addiction and abuse risks as opiofobia so this is where you see the words antivaxers even anti-fluiders opiophobic physicians these are marketing terms targeting doctors trying to neutralize concerns and so we're bringing all this up because we just lived through this opioid crisis. These payments are still being paid. People are still harmed by this. And this has been one of the largest catastrophes of our lifetime that came from the medical community.

And so, again, we have physicians whose the pump is primed because of these conflicts of interest. Is that going down or is that going up? This is the most recent article looking at this. There's a study now. This is the Journal American Medical Association, JAMA, industry payments to U.S. physicians by specialty and product type.

not a very interesting article or a study headline, but then you go into the reporting on this and it says this, in bed with big pharma. Corruption fears as report finds U.S. doctors receive record 12 billion in pharma payments in past decade. And it says this, almost six in 10 doctors in the U.S. received more than 12 billion in payments from pharma firms in the past decade. An analysis has revealed from August 2013 to 2022, American drug and device manufacturers made more than 85 million payments touting 12 billion to 826,313 of the 1.4 million eligible doctors in the U.S. That's over half the doctors in the U.S. And if you go to the images in this article, you can see what specialties are getting the most.

We have orthopedics, we have psychiatry, cardiology, oncology, so cancer, blood clots, heart attacks, SSRIs. Those are the major billion dollar industries. These pharmaceutical companies are targeting. You look at the top drugs related to industry payments. You see drugs for blood clots are the top two, then arthritis, diabetes. And it's interesting, you don't see any pediatricians on there because the pediatricians are already sewed up. They are already taken care of. They already have a system in place where they get paid for the vaccination. So the pharmaceutical companies are not really targeting them. You can see the low-hanging fruits they're targeting now is, again, oncology, cardiology, and diabetes and things like that.

So same thing happening in Australia. This is an article in a medical journal there, pharmaceutical company payments to Australian doctors. And it says in this article, a total of $33.44 million was paid or transferred. Payments range from $369,199,161. And the median payment was $1,500. And again, you go into here and you see the top specialties receiving this. money you have oncology cardiology top one and two and so this is this is obviously a major issue and we can only go up

from here we have to recognize this independent organizations must must really step up because it's it's really flooded out there with conflicts of interest and not even in the medical communities particularly but we have the vaping community this is a investigation in stat magazine and you can check this out this is the title NYU professor who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to jewel documents show jewel is the largest most popular vaping manufacturer in the world and how did this happen well it says at the height of the youth vaping crisis remember these were collapsing lungs putting holes in kids lungs when many public health experts were calling for sweeping action that could upend the entire industry david abrams and ray naura emerged as two

authoritative voices willing to defend vaping this despite its growing popularity among youth as an effective public health strategy to help adults cut back or quit smoking. Abrams, a frequent commentator, pay attention to this, because you notice these people get fast tracked right to the major media positions. Abrams, a frequent commentator about vaping in the news media, including CBS this morning, CNN, and the New Yorker coordinated extensively with Jewel on public messaging in 2017 and 2018, according to the company emails.

Abrams asked Jewel officials for talking points, allow company executives to review an academic article prior to publishing and attended dual scientific advisory board meetings all without disclosing these connections to journal publishers or the public. So when you see a talking head on TV, look at their conflicts of interest because this is often what comes out. And this is why we have to be more diligent with the people we choose to get our information from when it comes to medicine and health. Amazing reporting, Jeffrey. I mean, boy. And now you know, you know, know the flood gates have just opened. I mean, all of those emails now calling out Francis Collins

and Tony saying, I'm working with them on the side. Well, now we've got to bring them back in. Now we're going to ask them, what exactly were those conversations that were happening? And then who's going to get thrown under the bus? They're going to start with the little guy, right? Try to stick it all to one person like an assistant, like, you know, someone's sharing those stupid emails. But now is when they start turning on each other. Where is this all going to land? Super interesting. Right the in the shadow of the WHO pandemic agreement, which is mostly based on all of this corrupted science that was happening here in the United States of America. Just keep up the great work, Jeffrey. I mean, we're in our heyday right in this moment. I got to say for you out there, people,

like, you know, you think of Woodward and Burdency right now, you know, Jackson and Bigtree are all over this. We've been in it from the beginning and it is starting to get juicy. All right. Keep up the good work. I can't wait to see. see what is uncovered next week. Take care. Well, I mean, look, look at what that stat says. 60% of a doctor's in America are getting paid off by the pharmaceutical industry. That means when you go to your doctor, you can basically flip a coin and go, yep, as it turns out, not a doctor, an advertising salesperson, sales rep for the pharmaceutical industry. That's what you're dealing with right now. So when people say to me, are you telling me I'm not supposed to trust

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courage to step out. And what's even more amazing is those brave heroes that step out often without even being recognized, all on their own. They're not doing it for fame. They're not doing it for fortune. They're doing it because it's what's right. So many of those courageous heroes have come across this desk and sat on our stage here at the high wire. It's really the thing I'm the most proud of. Today's story is one that maybe you don't know about. Seems, you know, no one was paying attention that there are products out there that could have really protected you from COVID, but the U.S. government made sure you didn't hear about it. And if they tried to just tell you what they could prove, they bring a lawsuit and they try to destroy you forever. Most run, most say,

what do you need me to pay? All right, I'll never say anything again. You know, this routine? Well, not Nate Jones. Take a look at this. Born in Kansas City, my dad was going to medical school. He was always looking for natural things to do, non-pharma solutions, and he used saline a lot. And it wasn't until he read some of the studies in the 90s about how dentists were using xylitol to prevent tooth decay. And there was a study that was shown that xylitol is blocking the ability of strepneumal, H flu, MCATN, and some of these other pathogens to adhere to the tissue.

And he surmised that if you can block it from adhering to the tissue, you're not going to get sick as often. So he put xylitol into a saline and started spraying it up their nose, and they stopped getting sick. At the end of 1999, I went out to visit my dad, who lives in West Texas, and I was sitting in his clinic with him, and one of these nurses came in and said, Dr. Jones, we need some more of that jungle juice you mix up for the kids. Then the nurse came back and said, yeah, that lady, you just went and made that up. She just drove from Arkansas with three sick grandkids in the car because one of her family members that lived out in West Texas was telling her how effective this doctor was treating ear infections. And so she drove out to West Texas,

bought a couple of bottles this for, you know, a couple of bucks and turned around and drove back to Arkansas. And to me, if someone's willing to drive eight hours each way to buy a couple bottles, you should probably start a business with it. I quit my job working as a diver, doing underwater construction, and moved back here to Utah while I started the company. My dad came up with the name, spelled X-L-E-A-R as pronounced clear, because it clears your nose. washes your nose, and the ex is from the x-isololol. So we were selling a couple bottles a month, and then about six months after we started.

We were at a medical convention down in Texas, and this doctor comes up to us and starts asking a lot of very good questions, and it turns out that it was Dr. David Williams, and he ends up writing this newsletter, and then all of a sudden, within a matter of three days, we went from doing about $1,000 a month in business to doing about $5,000 a day.

And pretty soon, I mean, We were the number one selling nasal spray in the natural market. In 2016, we were in the mass market. We were in a lot of the pharmacies, most of the chains. Everything's going great, and then COVID hit. Mystery virus in China that now has the World Health Organization on edge. New infections exploding from coast to coast, shattering records for single-day deaths, hospitalizations, and new cases.

I was concerned about how it would affect my family. You know, my kids are young. You know, I was worried more about my mom and my dad, who were elderly. It took me a couple of months to realize that it really wasn't what we were being fed in the media, wasn't really what was true. But during early 2020, it kind of started getting a little concern that our public health agencies, they'd forgotten how to read because there was a bunch of papers that started

coming out in the medical literature talking about just using saline, just rinsing your airway, and how that would help with COVID. We've been selling a nasal hygiene product for 20 years. We understand nasal hygiene as good as any other group on the planet. And we just said, hey, you know what, we've never looked at viruses. The doctors are telling us it's having a good effect, and so we sent it up to Utah State University virology lab. Does this kill this SARS-COVID too?

And sure enough, they respond and said, yes, it destroys it rather effectively. And we thought it was a xylitol. And what we found out was that the grapefruit seed extract that we'd been using for 20 years as a preservative destroys this virus. And the data just kept coming out about why and how, why and how it would be effective.

And again, we shared that with the government. Again, we shared that with the CDC and they ignored it. But we had a lot of the professional baseball teams that called us and asked for product for their teams to use. Another one is my phone ring and it was George Stephanopolis. I have COVID and this guy reached out and says that your nasal spray might work. And I overnighted a couple of bottles to him

and when other doctors, when people that were treating people with COVID started talking about how nasal hygiene worked. Some of them were using our product some of them were using other products. But we would repost some of those and say, hey, people, wash your nose. And then July 29th of 2020, we actually got a warning letter from the FTC

saying that we could not be sharing any of the data from any of our studies or any of the doctors what they were talking about as far as nasal hygiene goes and how it could be beneficial. I said, this is absolutely stupid. But we took down the social media posts, trying to appease the people at the FTC, and we never heard back from.

our lawyers reached out to him and said, hey, are you happy with this? You know, do we have your blessing? Are you, you know, did we appease you? And they didn't respond, they didn't respond. And when we got new data studies, we would post those studies. We would do press releases. And then they came back to us and said, no, you can't be sharing these press releases because they're not human airway studies.

And so then we go and do those. And then they come back and say, well, you can't use those either. Go and do this other study. We go and do that study. And they say, okay, you can't use that one either. We didn't have to go do two RCT studies. The goalposts were moving. They kept coming back with ridiculous after ridiculous,

after ridiculous, and we said no. And so it was a little bit over a year later after they gave us the warning letter. They sued us. Cusing us of making unsubstantiated claims. They're telling me that I broke the law. I know that I haven't broken the law. I think that the people at the FTC that are censoring us

have broken the law, and they have caused people to die. I mean, I knew I was in a fight because I knew that we were in the wrong. that we were in the right. I knew we had science on our side and I wasn't going to back down. You know, when we all want some lawsuits about the unsubstantiated claims of how about the COVID vaccine and it's effectiveness and now it's safety, especially amongst children, I don't see the government stepping in there and bringing a lawsuit, but God forbid you decide to irrigate your nose, well at the heart of this. It's just a really great individual doing what's right.

I'm joined now by Nate Jones. Well, thanks for having me. It's really a pleasure to have you. You know, lots of people sort of run when the government gets involved. I guess in the beginning, you tried to work with them, right? Like, okay. But what I find interesting about your story is usually when you hear about a vitamin company or somewhere in natural health, they're just making claims, which is hard to stand by.

you were just basically publishing science that was you were funding to have look at your product and say look at this is what the science shows right correct I mean early on in 2020 and again in the intro it talked about this we had never in 20 years thought about looking at viruses and so we obviously didn't have any data to back it so we weren't saying anything but doctors started talking about it about using it and well they're well they're treating patients with COVID, doctors who are treating patients with COVID, you know, not just people at the CDC. Yeah. And they asked us and said, hey, can you find out why this is working that well? And that's why we actually send it up and have the studies done. And as soon as those studies come back, we understood from the first set of data that we got that it would be beneficial. For 20 years, we've been out there talking, educating, researching about bacteria and how

if you can stop something in your nose before it spreads to the rest of your body, your chances of getting sick are obviously. I mean this is this is something that a that a kindergartener knows and understands, you know, if it doesn't spread to the rest of your body, your chance of getting sick are going to go down. We know that. I mean, why do we wash our hands? Why do we brush our teeth? Why do we take, you know, all of this stuff? But we don't really wash our nose that much and that's where most of the pathogens and in our body come in through. I mean, certainly COVID, all the science said, this thing's colonizing here. It's moving

down into your throat, right in here is where it starts. If you, you know, that's the moment. Then, once it really, once it goes past there and it hits your lungs, then you're in trouble. But if you could stop it here, and what I find so shocking about all these stories, but especially is it just, it sets a common sense thing. As you said, saline would do something, but if there's something in that saline that actually kills the virus, then all the better. But meanwhile, we're being every doctor saying, don't do anything at all. We have absolutely no treatment whatsoever.

So what is the side effect? of saying you may want to try rinsing your nose. I mean, since that is where it is, maybe some of it will rinse out. I mean, we're so far outside of reason in this conversation. Well, the side effect of doing that is the government would sue you. Right. I don't know, you know, you almost would rather die than I actually do it.

But no, I mean, we had data. There were articles that were getting published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, suggesting that it would probably work. But they had data from this study. The first one that I'm aware of where they actually had data was an NIH. funded study at Vanderbilt University where they were using saline irrigation and they had 60 people over the age of 65 they all had COVID they test positive they have symptoms and then under a week they're all better and when you go out

and talk try to share this the companies that provided the material you know their competitors of ours Neomed Navage they said okay well we won't share the data which if you ask me I think that's that's a travesty to their customers yeah and it's a travesty to our country because they need to stand up and and share the data for some something that's so safe and has, I mean, yeah, granted it was a study of 60 people, but the safety factor that efficacy, is it really going to hurt anybody if they go and put some salt water up their nose? Not really. And we've known that you can use iodine in a nasal

spray. They use baby shampoo in nasal sprays. We've been using xylitol for decades. Iota carogen, and there's all kinds of things that we know block bacteria and viruses from adhering in our knows. Just here in the U.S., we suppress that information. There's too much money being made off of the pharmaceuticals to treat all these diseases that we breathe in. So tell me a little bit about sort of, let's take it back a step because we sort of rushed through it in that. Your father decides, let me try putting xylitol into a nasal spray. Is that sort of how this starts? What was his thinking on that? Like, why xylitol? Because, so they've known since the 40, and that's the 40s, since the 60s, they started doing it in the 40s,

so that's where I got missed up. But they started doing research in the 60s looking at how xylitol prevents tooth decay. Okay. Dentists were looking these research studies. Dentists really don't, you know, they didn't really communicate that much with doctor, with physicians.

And what happened is when PubMed came online, my dad was on there querying how to prevent ear infections and what kept coming up with these dental research studies because the dentist, they keep all the data, And the kids in these studies with all the xylitol chewing gum, looking at how it prevents tooth decay, they noticed they also were recording the data showing that they got 42% fewer respiratory infections, ear infections,

just by chewing gum with xylitol. Really? Okay? You get rid of tooth decay, 42% fewer air infections. These are University of Michigan dental school studies. They were published a long time ago. And my dad read that, and then there was a study that came out in 98, in the Journal of Antimicrobial Chemotherapy,

where they actually talked and said, this is what's happening, is xylitol is blocking the ability of strefnumo, H flu, M, cat, and all these pathogens from adhering to the tissue. If you can block that adhesion, you're obviously not going to get sick that much. And so we understood that. My dad, he goes, well, I have all these babies that are having current ear infections, rather than bombarding. It's a huge issue in kids. It didn't used to be, but kids, been the tubes in their ears, and just it's a real mess for a lot of parents.

But he started putting it into a saline spray, started washing their nose out, and they stopped getting sick. kids that were coming in, you know, constantly for antibiotics. They stopped getting sick. So I quit my day job. I started the company and 20 years later, we're in most of your pharmacies, your grocery stores, your retailer, I mean, we're everywhere. And, you know, and then we have COVID

and we end up learning what it does for not just SARS COVID 2, but H1N1, RSV, and a couple of other ones. Wow. And so all you were doing is, you know, putting up the study, here's, we just did a study, here's where it's at, this is what you can say, That's, you know, I mean, beyond that, you're not like we're curing coronavirus, just this is what it shows how it's affecting the virus.

What is it, what is the source of xylthal? Because, I mean, to me, in my mind, I'm like, that's like a fake sugar, right? It's like a fake sugar product. So how is it end up having some medicinal value? It's actually a natural sugar. Okay. In fact, the best way to get it is if you go break a corn cob, after you get it in your next ear of corn on the cob, break the cob, break the cob in half and suck on it. And that's xylentphal.

About 40% of the dry. weight of a corn cob, the xylitol. But it's the number one sugar in biomass. I mean, it's one of the sugars that makes up plant walls. So, I mean, it's extremely common. And if you go back a couple hundred years before we were processing glucose, sucrose, it was the number one sugar that we ate as humans. Wow. So that was really our sweetener in nature when we're just eating things and not adding an outside sugar. And so now you're bringing that back around. Are there, I mean, you were telling me backstage that they're doing some looking at gut biome being affected by. Yeah, there's a, there's a, there's a couple of studies out there that are,

that are, where they're looking at things like autism, gut bone microbiome, they're looking at, they're looking at, they're looking at cancer. Even though I'm funding it, that's outside of my area of yeah, of what I truly understand. Yeah. I could say enough just to, to confuse myself and, and, you know, everybody else. But no, it's some exciting research. So now this lawsuit, are you the only one? I mean, as you said, Navaj, there's all these other, you know, nasal irrigation companies. You can go to the drug store. You see them there.

You see clear there. Did they receive the same letter? They received the same warning letter and they just, yeah. Walked to, they just ran and they just said, we'll stay away from it. Tucked down in their foxhole was their word. Right. Until it all blows over. And then you decided to step out.

So like just, you know, I don't promote products, but. This is about a product, but you made it clear, like you're fighting for this. Yeah. But really, this is a competitor, right? Correct. How will this competitor be affected? Because is this also a xylitol product? Yeah, no, they use xylitol.

There's a couple other ones that use xylitol. What I'm trying to get to is that the concept of nasal hygiene is something that we do need to look at and understand. Okay, I know it, I understand it. Yeah. We're blocked from actually discussing what it does because of our government and these agents, that I guess are run by the pharmaceutical companies because public health I mean I'll give you a good example is soap yeah we all know that soap washing your hands with soap and water is probably the best way to stop the spread of

communicable diseases out there period but the soap companies can't go say that right okay because they're not a drug so we can go in and say washing your nose helps you smell better right but we can't really get into what's behind it and in the past the CDC when they were actually doing their job, they were out there educating people. They were out there talking to people about, you know, washing their hands, using soap and water, singing the happy birthday to you while you're washing your hands. They were also out there sending dental hygienists to schools to teach people, teach kids how to brush their teeth, how to use a little pink

pills and, you know, give you a toothbrush and some toothpaste. And they were teaching people how to do that. And, you know, since 1980, I guess, because that's when I was there, they've kind of abdicated that. They just don't do it anymore. And they're, you know, you're, you they're just so myopically focused on, you know, just sit around waiting to have a vaccine for everything. Well, I mean, as we pointed out just earlier in the show, every doctor is being paid, essentially, it looks like to be a drug pusher.

Yes, they are. Sell drugs, and if a drug doesn't fix it, everybody else has got to keep their science off the television, keep it off your websites, you're not allowed to talk about it only, and this is really where this gets very complicated, right? Because on the one hand, I mean, I fight for safety studies every day. I was like, where are the safety trials on vaccines?

It's one of the big questions. But pharma likes that we have the randomized control trial out there because really technically they're the only ones that can afford to do it. I mean, it does cost oftentimes millions of dollars to do a trial like that. Yeah, but usually that's the sad thing is these days it's not really the pharmaceutical companies that are paying for it. It's mostly our tax dollars. How so? Because the NIH.

I mean, you listen to all this during COVID. Whoa, we're funding that. We fund all this research. The NIH and the NIAID, they fund billions of dollars. in research. They're the ones that are funding most of that. The pharmaceutical companies don't fund as much. Everybody thinks that they fund a lot of money, but it's usually the government that's funding it because they get kickbacks from it. They get royalty payments from it. Yeah, that's something that we saw with COVID. Multiple scientists would be paid for life

for developing it inside of a government agency. And then that same government agency promotes the product that they developed, they get their kickbacks. And lo and behold, the side effects, la la, la, la, I don't know what you're talking about. We don't see any side effects. We're not doing any studies to look at it. We're not looking at VERS. We refuse to refute what's happening there. So, you know, when you did these, you kept going and doing studies of your product. I mean, that has to have an expense to it, too. Why do it? Because I like to know. Yeah. I like to know what I'm talking about. You know, and when we started, so we, when we really started doing studies was actually during COVID because that opened up a whole new door of viruses

and you know we did a study we did a study in 2006 I want to say where we actually had a we couldn't find anybody in the US to do this we found someone in the Czech Republic but they went and looked at a bunch of kids you know and used a xylenthal nasal spray on them prophylactically for a couple of months kids that had chronic ear infection chronicotitis media and that study you know it showed that The kids that used a nasal spray with xylitol, it reduced the incidence of ear infections by over 80%, which was phenomenal. We brought up, and the other thing that it showed is it showed a shift of the nasal microbiome from pathogenic bacteria to non-pathogenic bacteria.

So the good bacteria, it takes over. It's a commensals. So it doesn't kill everything. It's not like an antibiotic, which has its own issues because it wipes out the good and the bad. Correct. And we know that, and we also know that from 50 years of studies of xylitol in the mouth, because it does the same thing in the mouth. But when we tried to get that study published,

the editors of the pediatric journals were like, nah, there's no way this is valid. There's no way that spraying sugar water up your nose is going to reduce your infections like this. And so we just said, well, we just spent a couple hundred thousand dollars on getting a study done. And it's money wasted. So we kind of slowed down doing a lot of research in the nasal space.

Yeah. We funded a bunch in oral care and stuff, But, you know, it's mostly so that we know it. We can go in and talk to the doctors and the dentists about it and share the data with them. But the government stops us from actually sharing that data with the public. What faith do you have from your vantage point now in the sort of government regulatory system? It's supposed to be looking, I mean, it's supposed to be protecting, you know, people, Federal Trade Commission protecting America's consumers.

That's their tagline. Yeah. But I can show you with data that by the stuff that they're censoring, just the just censoring us, censoring our competitors, people died. I mean, if they'd come out on the news and said, hey, guys, just wash your nose with salt water, I guarantee you there'd be hundreds of thousands of people alive today.

The studies show that. Yeah. I mean, it's not like it was making it up. Studies show that, you know. You took, you took relative, you know, as safe of drugs as there's gonna be out there with ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, took them out of people's reach while you had no answers.

then you push Remdesivir, which in its study manipulates itself mid-study. Tony Fauci goes in, changes the endpoints, you know, change the protocols, which is, it's fraud. Like they perform fraud, but bring the case against you. How confident are you with your case? I mean, you know, it's... I'm pretty confident because they still, I mean, it's just the stuff that we found out in depositions already.

I mean, they haven't, they're deposing me the last week of June, but we've already deposed them. things. I mean, it's not funny. It's really sad. Is that the people at the FTC they acknowledge that they never even opened the emails and read the studies. We could have sent them any study they wanted.

And they said it wasn't in the news, so it can't be true. The news? Yeah. Well, that reminds me of, you know, when you know, the head of the CDC says, I learned about, you know, the COVID at CNN or the vaccine, I think it was the vaccine. She said,

I learned about it at CNN. I was like, you're the head of the CDC, you're learning about the fact that it's going to be ready by the news? Yeah, but to answer your question, I have very little confidence. You know, I mean, you have so many drugs that are approved, and then, and then, you know, we find out they're harmful. I mean, you have opioids that are approved. You have viacs. I mean, the list is long. Yeah. You know, but yet everybody sits there and talks about regulating. I'm not in a supplement business. I don't sell supplements. Right.

But everybody talks about the need to regulate the supplement business more. More people use supplements in America than use pharmaceuticals. They're cheaper people use them. But yet you have over 2 million people reporting adverse effects from drugs every year. And you have about 3,000 people reporting adverse events from supplements. So tell me which one you think needs to be regulated more. Right. When you look at the government system, if you were king for a day, it does appear regulatory capture is a huge issue.

The pharmaceutical industry has just got itself wrapped around the CDC, FDA. I don't know FTC, what's involved there, but we see EPA, has got Exxon, a page. So it's just like somehow these lobbyists have, you know, where these regulatory agencies are supposed to be, as they said, looking out for the consumer. Ultimately, they're doing the bidding for their bosses, which appears to be the industries were supposed to be being protected from. If I was president, because here in the U.S. we don't have kings. If I was president for a day, I would probably just demand that the CDC and the surgeon general, you've got to increase what they're doing to educate people about how to stay healthy. Public health, the golden century, yeah.

But the golden time of public health was really from the late 1800s to the late 1900s. We had a reduction in almost every type of communicable disease, and it wasn't through vaccines. It wasn't through pharmaceutical products. It was because our public health agencies were out there making sure that we exercised, that we ate food, good nutrition, that we had good personal hygiene, and that we had good sanitation. We had water coming to our houses. We had the sewage getting pumped away. We had the trash getting taken away.

All of that stuff. Those are the four pillars that public health policy should be based on. They shouldn't be based on, you know, sticking a needle in everybody. And they shouldn't be based on pharmaceuticals. But that's what the surgeon general, and that's what the CDC or does. doing now is they're focusing on that. And I had I tried to find out what the budget, the amount of money being spent on prevention and education was compared to the $4 trillion that we spend on sick care, healthcare. And I couldn't find a good solid number, but it's a couple of billion.

Right. So you're spending a couple of billion as a country on educating people and preventing and teaching them how to brush their teeth and wash their nose and wash their hands. Well, there's not even that because when we look into it, we look at food, pyramids or whatever shape they put the food, you see that is being funded by Kellogg's and Nabisco and that's another thing is supported. So is the funding even going to actual health or again? Again, that's the issue is building through the poisons. Is, you know, what is good for you when it comes to nutrition?

I don't believe that what's good for you or you or you is the same for me. I mean, I read a book once called The China Study about, you know, being a vegetarian. And I'm like, oh, this makes sense. So I became a vegetarian for a year, and I blew up to like 320 pounds. I mean, I was way bigger than than I am now. Yeah. You know, and so obviously being a vegetarian doesn't work for me.

Right. I have a neighbor who's a vegetarian. He's healthy as can be. So obviously, it's not a one-size-fits-all, and people in public health should understand that. Right, absolutely. But, yeah, but it's, you know, but I think that, I don't think that the CDC, or that the CDC,

I don't think that the FTC should be able to, sue people unless they're actually making faults and misleading statements. That's what the law says. The law says that we can't make false and misleading statements. That's what Congress gave them. We all acknowledge that. Everybody in businesses, yeah, that's true. We probably shouldn't be allowed to go out and lie about what this does. We shouldn't be able to go out and lie that this vaccine is going to prevent you from getting something. Right. Totally. Like let's all play, let's even play field. What's in this book you got here? What's this about? So this is actually it's just, you know, they're saying you don't have,

the thing that they have is the FTC says you have to have. have substantial studies. Right. Okay? There's bunches of studies back. Someone just get this? Someone, is this available for people? Oh no, that's just, they're all, the studies are all available on our web page.

Okay, on your web page. Yeah. What's your web page? It's clear xcel eaar.com forward slash studies. Okay. And, you know, there's been a couple of great people that have talked about this. I mean, you know, Dr. McCullough, he talks about this a lot now. Yeah.

You know, other doctors have come out and talked about it, you know, when they've- Great peril, by the way. Like, by saying it, it's like your license is suddenly under review for, you know. So when they sued me, this is actually interesting, when they sued me, the very first person that reached out to me and said, hey, we, I want to talk to you about this because of the government suing you, what you're selling is probably true and it's probably effective. Right. It's getting to that point. And it was a podcast called Investigator Earth. And they started getting, you know, people calling them up hating on them.

Wow. Which tell me why that even makes sense. What are next steps in this case? Where are you at right now? Is there anyone else left to be deposed? Me, and they just roped in my 87-year-old dad. Oh, really? Yeah.

They just noticed up last week that they wanted to depose him. Right. You know, I think that they know they're not going to win and they're just trying to make as much hassle as they can. Yeah. For the simple reason that, you know, that's their thing is the FTC has many times said that it isn't, we don't care whether we're going to lose,

it's the process is the punishment. Wow. And so if you ask if I was king for a day, I would just abolish the FTC for the simple reason that they're not doing anything good. Yeah. I mean, you'd think they were, but it's so easy to prove someone's lying

and it becomes way more difficult to sit there and make it so vague. So they can, really, what they're trying to do is they're putting out guidelines that make it so vague that they could sue anybody they want to for making any claim at all. I mean, that's what I think really is. It's guys like you.

True, that's really what it means to be a true American patriot now. Someone's got to stand the ground. If everyone just gives in, if everyone runs away. I mean, you could. You have a successful company. Nobody knows this is going on. The product's still on the shelves. People can go and get it.

So you're going out of your way to sort of stand your ground and put yourself in, you know, harm's way. I think as I dig more into it, I realize that there's more at stake than just me or even my company. If you take away all the supplements and stuff that people rely on and their natural products, again, I think that's a bigger impact on America, not just take them away, but because now they're going to go and rely more on pharmaceutical products.

Right, exactly right. That's the whole goal. I think that's shifting, though. I really feel like we're in a very important moment. Why it's so important to tell stories like this, I'm really happy to meet you. It's an honor to meet people that are just doing what's right. Just do it right.

We'll take care. Best of luck. Keep us posted on all of your successes. We'll do. Thank you. All right. We'll keep you in our prayers. Well, you know, as we've talked about Mickey Willis and Plandemic, the musical,

they had a huge screening in Las Vegas having screenings all around the country. They're winning awards. But what is it like to be a part of watching it and see? seeing it, take a look at this. So for freedom everybody, let's all make some noise out there for yourself, so being here to play in the musical screening. The message in this film is so important. It just gives you so much joy and so much relief.

I loved it. I found it very uplifted. The movie brought tears some eyes. I just can't wait too well to share it with everybody. Absolutely epic. Now we've known we've always been free. To learn each other even if we just be, it's all inside, shut the eyes. Sing it.

And the green. No, he's one of the greatest filmmakers on the planet today, but great filmmakers are made great because of the people they surround themselves with. And today, Mickey Willis joins me with his secret weapon to Plandemic Deepak. Welcome to the High Wire. Hey, how you doing? Good to be here. Good to see you.

Mickey. Good to see you, though. Always a pleasure. You are, I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen this long version. I have my little cameo. I can't wait. It's coming up.

First of all, it's just dates. Austin is it is the next screening the next one is actually in Los Angeles at the Directors Guild of America as part of the Malibu Film Festival oh fantastic yeah and then next month all right and what's that what's the dates in Austin so Austin is June 15th and Malibu Film Festival is the 25th so we're leaving tomorrow all right fantastic okay Deepak how first of all how did you guys connect well I think it we're looking at about 15 years ago 14 years ago or something like that

We lived in a 15 or 16, yeah. Yeah, we lived in a big community house. We had a live work environment with our entire production company in Ohio, California. And we would have amazing events every single weekend, musicians and speakers on the property. And Deepak graced us with his presence one time and fell in love with him and his gift for music. And so we've been wanting to collaborate for a number of years. And this is our first official, real deep collaboration. And man, what an incredible experience it was.

incredible experience it was. Absolutely. What's your background? How did you get into music? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I started out growing up learning music. You know, as a very young kid, I was listening to Michael Jackson and trying to always copy sounds and bands that I liked and had violent lessons when I was very young, but I was

sort of like the ADD rebellious kid and became more of a street musician playing by ear. But I went to school for pre-med and pre-law, but the whole time I had bands, I was singing a cappella groups and, you know, I was following the Indian path of being either a doctor or a lawyer, engineer or some kind of scientist. But once I graduated, my parents were happy. And I branched off and came to Los Angeles to be an artist. They still happy? You got a degree?

What are you doing with your life? Well, I mean, the first couple of years, they might have been a little bit, hey, what's going on? This isn't our normal path. Probably just because they came first generation, security was kind of a main, you know, main value. But I think when they started seeing successes coming through, I was doing gigs with Rihanna, NDIRI, you know, I was on modern family as a co-star, things like that started coming through. And they were getting validation from, you know, a lot of it's about also, what are the,

what are the other family members going to say? Like, you know, our kids at Harvard, our kids here. And they started getting calls from like aunts and uncles. and cousins that were like, hey, we just saw Deepak on modern family or on Cadillac commercial. And so they're like, oh, okay, we're getting validation with this crazy path. All right, we're down, we're down.

They're very proud now. I got to meet you in our Vegas showing, and they're there. Little, tiny, sweetest people you've ever made, and they stood there looking at their son, and it was beautiful to see how proud they were. You know, I feel like I'm a little part of this. We were having a party at our house.

Oh, yeah. Where I met you. Yeah, yeah. You pulled out a guitar, and it's just, Like, you know, there's a lot of people that will, like, pull out and jam, like, campfire music. But there's something different when someone pulls out a guitar and, like, just like, I mean, neighbors are like, what is going on in here? Just really captivated. And we were talking about being in the middle of this pandemic, this is insane what's going on and what we're, you know, going through.

So four years ago, Thanksgiving, Dill had a Thanksgiving gathering at his house. And a group of probably 50 of us or so in total, we're all together. And Del always has really great wine. And so I will admit we had a little bit too much of that. He pulls out his guitar and we start singing songs just to make light of the situation that everyone was going through such torture at the time, you know, being separated from their families and all of the confusion. So we started singing songs, comical songs, making up names, you know, reversing the names. Fantany, Anthony Ouchie, Kill Bates.

Yeah, exactly. So we're making up parody songs. And then someone said behind us when we were singing probably way too loud and probably irritated the rest of the party. I apologize for that, whoever was there. They said, wow, this would make a great Broadway musical. Right. And I stopped and I looked around and I said, a musical, we're going to do it. And everyone laughed and my wife, who knows me, goes, I know that look.

He's not like, he's not joking. So here we are. So at the heart of it, I mean, look, you've done this series. of Plannedemic movies. You've really been going after the establishment, but it's risky musician to get involved with someone that's sort of speaking the truth that way. Is this sort of perspective that Mickey has new to you?

Not at all. I mean, I've always been curious. As a young kid, I always thought there was weird stuff going on, just even in high school, middle school, questioning things, staring at the dollar bill and using magnifying glasses on a personal check. And if you guys don't know, if you look at the personal check on the signature line,

that's not a line. Those are words. And little, you know, it says authorized signature. And little weird clues like that led me down a path of curiosity and discovery of to, oh, things may not be what they seem. The media may not be accurate. There might be more things, you know, behind the scenes. And so that led me down all these different questions, curiosity, studying economics.

I was a mathematician, as I mentioned, doing pre-med and pre-law. So the math didn't work out when I was studying Keynes in economics. Something about it wasn't right. It's set up to create debt. I was like, this isn't weird. This is weird. They're doctrinating people with a math. way that's actually designed to create debt, central banking systems, Jekyll Island,

you know, you can go back into the history, we can go out a rabbit hole here. Okay. That's what led me into Ron Paul, Austrian business cycle, Mises, Rothbard, all that, free markets. And so that's kind of been the path of been on. And then, you know, I led into like understanding politics a little bit more and how you're way too smart for musician, man. Like that you're not supposed to be. So they clearly like that he must like, who was there first then? I always thought this guy. He was there before I was. I was still a useful idiot as they call this and wanting to look away from all this stuff. I had people warned me years ago and come to me and say, you know, your position in meat is very important and maybe you can

help get this truth out to the world and they'd lay it out for me and they talk about the big conspiracy and all the tyrants that are trying to take over America from within. And I thought, this is just crazy. These people, you know, they're looking for, they're looking to feel important somehow. This is, this can't be real. And it wasn't really until, you know, what began my, my, my, deep dive behind the curtain was when my wife and I, Nottie and I decided to have a child and then said, what are we going to do in terms of vaccination? And then I started our decision at the beginning was, well, we'll just get what's needed because one thing I'm clear on is the schedule just seems over the top. Yeah. 70 some odd vaccines before they're at age six or something like that. Just I don't

know any body that would require that. So let's figure out what the child really needs. And I started to go down the rabbit hole. And that's kind of when things opened up for me, because I started to see the evidence pointing in a different direction than the mainstream media was directing us. And that really opened me up to look deeper that there was a possibility that, you know, you know my story, that I had a brother killed by A-Z-T and then a mother died bad cancer treatment. So I was already kind of keyed into this major problem within Western medicine. But then when I started to realize it's not incompetence, there's something corrupt here.

And there's a movement that really wants to keep us sick and dependent. And the further I went down that rabbit hole, the more I learned and really the more unbelievable it became, and it still is today. It's still even though we know what's going on, I still grapple with the idea that there are people that are consciously doing harm on a mass scale, you know, but it's so evident, but I still just have a hard time computing that in my mind that there are people that have so lost their soul that they can perform that way. Yeah, we've had a lot of very deep, intense conversations.

I feel like sometimes you jump on that side. I'm over here, I was like, wait a minute, then I come back and you're like, wait, I'm back because it's really mind-blowing. That's just the music very quickly, you know, this is a very serious topic. yet there's so much beauty. How do you approach a project like this as a musician? What was like, is there a goal, is there a feeling? Absolutely.

Feeling drive it? Does it start with an intellectual, mathematical structure of music? Yeah, I mean, for me, art is feeling-based, but I think having a purpose has a little bit of a balance of left brain and right brain. I think the balancing of the hemispheres is really key for society in general.

So as an artist, I'm thinking, hey, what's the feeling I can create that can move, touch, and inspire people, but also with a little bit of thought behind and intention that can create, you know, change, create a movement, create unity. And so I think when working with Mickey especially, he's a great storyteller. And as an artist, that's my job to be a storyteller.

It was amazing partnership to work with him because he's providing narratives that I align with already about unity, freedom. Team humanity is like a big passion of mine. And so writing songs that can unite people lyrically and also with hooks and melodies that are coded to be remembered. That's kind of like how I'm like to think about.

What is this pattern or shape that could be encoded, We're going to remember, we're going to sing it. Even, you know, we're going to sing the melody and we're going to sing the words. So the melody has to be really important, and so to the lyrics so that you're going to repeat it. Because to me, it's a mantra. A mantra is something you repeat, right?

So lyrics are a mantra. Like we sing those Beatles songs that we remember, and if they have meaning and you can remember them, then we're actually reprogramming, you know, just like affirmations have power. So to songs. Songs are like affirmations, but they're musical and you can sing them to each other.

You know, being in a cold play concert or any other place where everyone's singing together, that's when we put down our differences. That's when we're in joy. is when we're singing together. So that's kind of my divine vision as Deepak World and Team Manate is to create just a one world sing-along that goes on forever, like Michael Jackson, heal the world, things like that.

I think I'd like to be able to contribute to the world in that kind of way as well. And one of the things that I ran into early on in my storytelling career too was recognizing that language is limited. This thing we call language that gets produced through the mind can only take us so far, but the true magic of life is ineffable. We cannot describe it.

We can do our best to come close to kind of paint a picture of it, but language is so limited that the stuff that really transcends the human experience, the stuff that goes into the other dimensions of reality, where truly the healing power is, where we find peace and connectedness with each other. Music is one of the only languages. They call it the language of the soul for a reason. It's one of the only languages that will help us get beyond the thinking mind that is limited based upon the scope of our...

vocabulary. Music will take us, will have us transcend beyond that. It heals the body. It also carries vibrational properties, which we spoke about the last time I was on the show, that's happening simultaneously, which is why cultures since the beginning of the time have beat on drums and bearskins and whatever it might be just to create that unified experience. And so for me, you know, years of telling stories, I've recognized that we've kind of reached the end of that. We can fill our minds with so much data, but at what point does that just become an overloaded hard drive to where nothing happens? The computer no longer computes. And that's where music takes over for me. And that's why I chose to work with Deepak here so we can take

this to the next level of creating an experience beyond the spoken word. It's amazing. You know, I've talked about when, like when I was a young kid, I wanted to get in, like I remember sitting in movie theaters and as a boy, you know, you're living in an uptight society. tears would run down my face. I just remember thinking, I want to be able to make everybody feel like this, like what movies do for me.

And I was in film school, and I remember the music, like the sound teacher, like you're in sound class, and he said, I'm gonna, you know, how many people think music's important in film? Like it was 50%? Most people thought it was like, 50, 50, 50, 50. And he's like, I'm gonna argue with today,

80% of film and the experience is music. And I remember he played a scene of Last Temptation of Christ with just the visuals. and then he played with Peter Gabriel's sound you know then he played just Peter Gabriel's soundtrack by itself and he's like which one made you feel something like yeah definitely the music then you put them together

and it was sort of off the charts you've been winning awards Mickey in I mean like it was crazy about it like in the place that rejected us like cast us out California Santa Monica right San Monica film festival just very quickly what does it feel like to go back

like into the Lions Den with films about the Lions and be winning awards. Like, tell me about it. Well, each time I think it must be a sting operation. They're luring me in with the awards. Right, right, I've got to arrest me and I'll come to the door. Turn around, put your hands behind your back. It's been really mind-blowing because not only have,

matter of fact, I want to say that your previous guest, Nate, that's another incredible story to tell, because I don't know if you plan this or not, but Nate and Sprite Gum and Clear, they are our first major brand sponsors. So if you look at our posters or step and repeat and everything, you'll see their logos on it, right down at the bottom of our poster there. And so just really kudos to people like Nate that have stepped forward because of their personal experience with the tyranny that we're all facing to say, even if this might hurt my business,

I'm going to stand for the truth and stand for these people because they're telling the truth. And what we're witnessing now is everyone who stepped out yourself big time on top of the list for being so brave to go, you know, to leave the mainstream, to take the chance that you took, Del. And I know as your friend, what that took to leave a very profitable, lucrative career. Once you built your status in Hollywood, it's kind of like being in the military, right? You never lose those stripes and you can always, you can always fall back on, you know, that title to, score jobs in Hollywood. You've earned it and you earned it and then you let it go all in favor of telling the truth. And people like Nate and all these corporations now, there are... An accident by the way. I mean, or I mean, you had no idea you two were

connected but it is sort of what we're getting used to, right? Like just these amazing synchonicities. Which is a whole other subject that maybe one day we can talk about because we're recognizing that so much in life that when you stand up for what's true, when you stand up for life. Yeah. Which is probably the easiest way to say. We're here to procreate and to create life. We are here as a holographic fragment of the creator. And when we are here in support of life itself, there's some magical thing that happens and all these synchronicities happen and all these things that the chances are a gazillion to one

that you would meet in the oddest of places, but we're all brought together because we're an alignment with nature itself, with God itself. And that just keeps happening and happening in our lives. But the fact that we're now getting called into these experiences with people who just three years ago were thinking that we were the worst people on the planet. Friends of yours I know were really harsh back in California. Very, very harsh. Now the sad part is when I really dig into it with most of them and we've recircled to become friends again, and I find out like what turned them around, it's they've had a direct experience now. They've either been injured or they've lost a loved one.

And now, you know, it almost takes that for some people to swallow their pride, forget about all the shaming they did against others to say, okay, now I've had something so dramatic happen in my life that I can no longer avoid looking at it. And so that's what we're seeing a lot of. And it's a, as we've talked about many times, it's a bittersweet experience to be perfectly honest with you. Because I would love, as I've mentioned before, I would love to have been wrong in 20. 2020 when we released the film. I would love to have just been embarrassed and put my shoe in my mouth and say we totally got this wrong But it turns out we totally got it right and but the you know where we might want to take a bow for that it doesn't it doesn't warrant that for me It's it's really a sad thing you know that that that we that it was something that was so invisible to so many people good people highly intelligent people And they had to wait to actually feel the suffering before they could see it

But the good news is they're seeing it and they're waking up and we are starting to now be invited into arenas that we never thought we'd be in a million years. And people that have a lot to lose her now, supporting us, mainstream people, reporters, media starting to tell the truth. And so I think that there's truly this, which is why the film before this one we called The Great Awakening because there truly is we're in the middle of a great awakening right now. I agree. And I think the musical is a great way to try and bring us all back together. Let's laugh. Let's have some fun around this. Let's bring some joy. What's the best way to? I mean, you have so many brilliant projects going. Where do we check in if we want to see one of these screenings or get to? Is there a place that just has the calendar of all the amazing things you're up to? Pretty much. Yeah. If you just go to Plandemic.com, everything is on there with the Austin premiere, which we're super excited about. It'll be the first time that you'll see the film. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. You're so good in it. Really, I think my favorite moment is, is what you brought to it. And I don't know if your viewers know that you have a background,

your incredible wife Lee, and you were both musicians. You have a beautiful singing voice, and she's just an angel of plays guitar and sings. And so there's this, again, I find myself, sometimes when I connect with someone on a deep level, I'll ask them, are you a musician? Because I find there's something about the people that know how to speak the language of music.

That I just find there's an alignment there. And so it was just a pleasure to have you as part of this. I'm excited that you've actually waited and not even seen a rough cut. No, I was like, I'm going to just tell me when it's, what it's done. You guys been tweaking, tweaking. Deepak, how do we follow your music in the work that you're doing? Yeah, just launching right now as we speak, Deepakworld.com spelled D-P-A-K World, and everything's on there,

including Plandemic, other music coming out. And the song I'm about to do on the show with you today is actually called It's Our Time. Together We Rise. It was actually originally written as the Independent National Convention Anthem this September, which I'll be doing the song at again too. So we're going to do that here on your show. It's also the closing credits for Planned, And so really excited to get this new song out there.

It's not released yet. Great. And that'll be the beginning of a series of more movement-based songs. And I've done a lot of work in the industry. I've worked with artists, done stuff with Disney. But it's always been like separate where part of me is an activist, part of me is out there spreading truth, doing the research on the politics. And then I keep my music separate.

And I felt like it's now calling to bring it together and bring art and music together, being an art-a-spreneur and artivist, whatever you want to call it, in order to actually make music that makes an impact as well, not just on the front line speaking and public speaking, which I do as well, but actually making the music a part of that message. And so this is one of the first songs that you'll be hearing that has that intention in mind. I've heard this song. I'm looking forward to hearing it in just a moment. Thank you, brother. First, I just want to say, you know, there's a lot of heroes that I've said have been on the stage.

There's been heroes that have even had my back. And I want to talk about one of those right now. Many of you know I had a health issue several years ago where I needed actually to rush to Mexico and get blood transfusions. If you're not aware of that story, go back and watch the relatively bizarre story that I went through. But a few people stepped up. Jeffrey Jackson jumped into my seat that day when I found out it was a show day. And then the very next week, Jim Mehan sat in this seat and covered for me.

He's covered for a lot of people. This is a guy I've called so many times when people are in distress or having medical issues. If he can't fix it, he has always helped me find someone. that does. If you don't know who Jim Mehan is, take a look at this. Who's ready to hear from Dr. Jim Mehan, M.D? He is absolutely unapologetic about standing up for medical freedom and he's here with you today. Jim Behan!

This is Jim Mehan, Dr. Jim Mehan, filling in for the one, the only, the man, the myth, the legend, del Bigtree. I'm a medical doctor. I treat anything under the sun. and I just try to prevent disease instead of just profiting from the end stages. My superpower is to read the medical literature. I'm a former medical editor. I've spent years reading and discerning fiction from facts. We are one of the worst countries of all developed countries for childhood death in the first five years.

The worst infant mortality on the planet. We have an explosion of chronic diseases in our children. Ladies and gentlemen, if you vaccinate your children, you are going to create infertility, blood clots, transverse biolitis, more complications than we have ever seen. We have seen more complications from this vaccine than any and all of the vaccines in 31 years of history. I've seen so many vaccine injured children swept under the rug denied by pediatricians and doctors. Make no mistake, a huge portion of the children being diagnosed with autism have suffered a vaccine-induced, brain injury.

In my opinion, Bill and Melinda Gates are creating a market for vaccines by building trials that are designed to fail. And you can't sue the manufacturers, you can't sue the doctor that provides it, and now OSHA won't even protect you if your employer forced you to get it. This is the slippery slope towards totalitarianism. I will not bow to that science. I will not bow to a tyrannical government. I will not submit.

I will not kneel before a public health agency that long ago gave up. It's time to wake up and understand what's going on. It's not about science. It's about control. I pray that all of you will be blessed and protected and be educated to the point, will, that you'll just rise up and resist what you have to. To protect your children, to protect your freedoms, and to protect our future. Jim, me and one of the great warriors out there has had my back when I needed him.

He needs all of us right now. Jim is really struggling through a health issue. He's battling cancer right now. And I just, first of all, want you, Jim and your family to know how much we cherish and love you. Our prayers are with you as you go through this. You've given so much to this community. I'd really love it. If our community can we give back and take care of Jim right now.

He has a give send go.com slash mehan MD. Whatever you can give. These are costly experiences. We know, Jim, that you're going to pull through this. You're such a warrior, such a fighter. You have so much to live for. And, you know, we never leave a man behind. So one of our own needs us.

And so if you can help out, that would be really awesome. Jim, take care. prayers with you. I know I can't wait till you're sitting here and taking my spot once again somewhere in the future. Looking forward to that. You know, it takes everyone finding that hero inside of us and really, I want to be honest, you know, Mickey, you know, or Nate or, you know, people come up to me. It's not like, you're like, you know what, today I'm going to decide to be a hero. You just decide you're tired of not telling the truth. You're hot. I'm tired of hiding who you are, what you believe,

and you just decide, you know what, I'm done. I'm done with a game, I'm done with the charade, I was at CBS, I'm done dancing around these people. I'm these, you know, it's time, I just wanna speak the truth. I wanna spend the rest of my life speaking my truth, you know, standing in what I know to be true, you know, funding and working on investigating the things

that I care about instead of things I could care less about really don't matter to people. And I just want to say to you once again, as Mickey said, you know, these experiences we're having, it's like, you know, one in a gazillion moment, one in a gazillion that we would randomly two guests actually work together. Nate funds the work that Mickey's doing totally accidental. It happens because that's what happens. If you want to live a once in a gazillion over and over and over again, where it starts

getting really hard saying it's coincidence. maybe there's actually something bigger going on and we're a part of it, once you decide to really stand in your truth, part of it maybe just starts with a little step, like funding the work that we here do here at ICAN, or just sharing one of our videos with your friends and enrolling them in a place where they can find the truth because you've seen our track record,

you say you really are, you know, if you want information that's really standing the test of time, check it out. Or maybe you're going to fly to Geneva, Switzerland, and just say, I'm going to do something radical. I'm going to grab my kids or my wife, and we're going to go and just, it's beautiful. It's Geneva.

And we get to stand up for the world today. Whatever it is, whatever little thing, maybe it's a conversation with someone in a grocery store. When you start allowing yourself to act on those things, those instincts inside of you, instead of crushing them and holding them down, eating you from the inside out that you're not speaking your truth, I've said it before when people come up to me and say, thank you for your sacrifice. Folks, the sacrifice is the one you're making every day when you're not being yourself. It's painful, it's hard. There's a better world out there.

That world starts the moment you decide to rise up and make a difference. It's our time. Deepak, tell them. Say through the lies that feed the fires that we creed Come out from the shadows Come out in plain sight Nothing to lose It's time to move into the light

Together, united, deny it or fighting No more hiding anymore Our story rewriting We're riding or losing we can't keep quiet anymore Because together we will rise Oh Together we will rise Together we will rise

Can't wait any longer It's our time, yeah Because it's our time Together we will rise Oh Together we will rise Oh It's our time, yeah, because it's our time.

Under rip the bell that covers everything. The talking heads are gonna make us blind. And when we strike back, shoot love into the sky. Together, united, denying, or fighting, no more hiding, yeah. I'm sorry, we fight it, or losing, we can't keep quiet. Together we will rise. Oh, together we will rise. Oh, together we will rise.

Can't wait any longer. It's our time, yeah, because it's our time. Together we will rise.