The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 386: RAISING THE BARR

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Del Introduces HighWire+, a space beyond The HighWire which seeks to explore new shows and curated content from the movement, offered as a gift exclusively to monthly donors to ICAN; Jefferey Jaxen Reports on explosive net-zero updates, and CDC leverages a ‘COVID surge’ to push vaccination; Legendary Actress and Comedian Roseanne Barr lights up The HighWire Studio with Del.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world. It's time to step out into the high wire. I am pumped today. We've got a really great show coming up. I've got the one, the only, the outrageous, the controversial Roseanne Bar. is going to be in studio. I'm really looking forward to that.

And maybe even just slightly more excited than that. I'm excited to talk about sort of a new project that we've been working on, really for almost a year now, a way to deliver really specially designed content for those of you that have become supporters of ICANN. Those of you that give to us, we wanted to be able to give back. It's called High Wire Plus. Check it out.

Welcome to Highwire Plus, the space beyond the Highwire, where we're going to explore content made just for you. Highwire Plus is our gift to monthly donors to ICANN, that will have news, entertainment, reality programming, all designed for people who care more about the truth than just another story. We're also going to be curating documentaries and films from some of our favorite filmmakers who deliver the truth just the way that we do. Highwire Plus is your place to experience and explore truth like you've never seen it before.

And look out for new content coming soon from Highwire Plus. Well, we're really excited about this. As I've said, this has just been a little bit of a dream work. We've been working on this for some time. And for those of you that are recurring donors, you're going to be sort of our beta test group. Look forward to hearing from all of you as you interact with it. I'm going to talk a little bit more later on in the show just about what it is, you get involved with it, how you work with it. But first, it's time for the Jackson Report.

All right, Jeffrey. Um, so psyched. Obviously, you're working on a show right now. It's in development. Jeffrey Jackson investigates. Super excited about that, man, deep dives. And I mean, how's that process been a little bit different for you? Yeah, a little bit different. I mean, you're talking about the Jackson report and you're just expanding that in one topic. And it's been, It's been so exciting because I've been able to just go and talk to any expert I want and get to the real bottom of these subjects to help people, to give them the full informational picture. And I mean, this platform is revolutionary what we're doing because we are expanding this beyond

anything the high wire and the audience I've ever seen at this point. This is going to put us on the map in a bigger way than we already are. So, I mean, everyone, I appreciate the support. And please keep watching out for that because this is, you know, our whole team is working. on this like you said for over a year and this is a labor of love. Really looking forward to Jeffrey. All right, what's happening in the world today? All right, so I want to talk about net zero, something we talked about on this show several times. This is Klaus Schwab's, W.E.F and others. This is their big plan for society that no one got to vote on.

And, you know, there's three really big pillars of this net zero transition of society. We're talking energy infrastructure, we're talking food, and we're talking transportation. So we're going to hit on one of those pillars, which is transportation. and it's the electric vehicles, because this is a switchover that's being mandated. Remember, California said by 2032 they want about a third of cars electric that are being sold. The EPA also made that same proclamation. By 2035, they want all electric cars. Well, there's eight states' attorneys generals that are suing and joining an Ohio lawsuit already in progress.

And here's the headline on that. Eight states file a court brief challenging California's electric vehicle mandate. So this is a basically they're going to challenge this now. So this is putting a big spanner in the works because one of those pillars, if this pillar does not get implemented, it's a big problem for net zero. And I'm, you know, looking at the bigger picture on that as well, a vehicle represents a strong middle class. A vehicle represents it's a symbol of freedom. You can get in there right now and you can drive anywhere you want without government permission. It represents, you know, freedom to move, freedom to expand. So there's a lot of freedom. lot of symbolic things when the government says, we're going to mandate something on you. And, you know, it's very pricey. So we're seeing, we're seeing this vehicle mandate as well and this transition happening, not only in the U.S., but in the UK, in also Germany. And in Germany, VW is the main kind of vehicle driver for that economy. The auto industry is a huge driver for that economy. And VW and Porsche, they share the similar heads there.

Germany falls way behind EV targets as VW and Porsche delay electric plans. So they're 2030 transition. They're blaming a slump in sales. You know, think about this. You have some financial issues in a lot of countries right now. It's crashing headlong into this mandate for expensive vehicles. So there's a slump there. There's still conversations about should we fully ban gasoline engines at this point.

So that's stopping it as well. It's good that people can actually have a debate on this. But, you know, this pretense that electric is good was sold to the, you know, it was sold, it was marketed and governments pick this up. They subsidize this transition that's happening right now. But let's take a moment for a second. I came across an article and it really broke down what an electric car is all about. So it says why driving an electric car isn't green at all. And so I'm going to read this here.

Just to give it a snapshot. It says, let's consider a Tesla Model Y battery in this picture. It takes up all the space under the passenger compartment of the car to manufacture it. has been estimated that you need, here it is, 12 tons of rock for lithium, five tons of cobalt minerals, most cobalt is made as a byproduct of the processing of copper and nickel ores is very difficult to obtain and is very expensive. Three tons of nickel ore, 12 tons of copper ore. In addition, you must move 250 tons of soil to obtain 26.5 pounds of lithium, 30 pounds of nickel, 48.5 pounds of maganese, 15 pounds of cobalt to manufacture the battery.

also requires 441 pounds of aluminum, steel, and or plastic, and 112 pounds. Still with me? It goes further. A Caterpillar 994A vehicle is commonly used for the earth moving to obtain the essential minerals. It has been estimated to consume between 250 and 775 gallons of diesel in 12 hours. Finally, you get a zero emissions car. Presently, the bulk of the necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries comes from China or Africa, and much of the hard labor for acquiring the minerals in Africa is done by children. And the grand finale, it takes seven years for an electric car to reach net zero CO2.

The average life expectancy of the batteries is 10 years. Only in the last three years do you begin to reduce your carbon footprint. Then the batteries have to be replaced, and you lose all the gains you made in those three years. I wondered what the one thing I don't even see in there is the equating for the fact that somewhere you're burning coal or some form of energy to create the electricity that you're charging your car with.

So in many ways, there's a gas pump. It's just not the one right next to your car. It's off somewhere else. You know, I want to just, I want to sort of throw a little bit of a different angle in here because I know that there's people that watch this show. They write in that are very environmentally conscious. My own brother, who's amazing, drives a Prius, you know, lives in a tiny house, and is just really efficient in all the things he does.

I love the fact that he doesn't just talk about it. He really tries to live a very effective. efficient life and I think it's super cool. I also want to say that, you know, I too think we've got to be looking at ways to be reducing the pollution in the air. How much work would we have to do here, Jeffrey, at I can, to try and work on, you know, curbing all the childhood illness and chronic disease if we had clean air. If we were not breathing exhaust all the time, no doubt about it, that's a serious problem. You know, how many people are, you know, keylating mercury right now, trying to get out of the kids.

They're finding it in their hair only because the fish that we're eating is being polluted. Our water is being polluted by things like smokestacks, coal stacks, all of those things. So all of these things matter to me. I mean, I genuinely, genuinely want a cleaner earth. But what we're talking about is does, is this the salvation? Is this the solution to this problem? And I also think, you know, as I think we've talked about this, it's sort of like that, what we're taught growing up just about eating, right?

Everything in moderation, like, you know, a little bit of everything, have a diverse diet, probably better than just only eating one thing. And in many ways, that's what this feels like to me. It's like, sure, I think there's probably going to be much better technologies beyond, you know, the battery, the lithium battery, the car. Just like I feel like natural gas was brought in as this answer from environmentalists, right? You know, I think President Obama was huge in pushing natural gas, is the clean energy, but we're using hundreds of millions of gallons of clean water to frack and get to it.

It's a problem. It's releasing methane there. So it's not perfect, right? And so I think with all of these things, can we just slow our role for a second and say those that can get some electric cars great? The market's coming around. It's making sense, especially you've got solar panels all over your house. Maybe you're not even using that coal burning plant to get it. but let's not go ahead and mandate that every car has to change over because it's that balance ship

that causes child labor issues all over the world everything gets out of balance then we find like oh lo and behold the thing has its own pollution problems i just think moderation and i know you've more to talk about but i just want to make that clear because people do write in we do read your points we are listening i am an environmentalist i'm with you but can we you know can't we look at everything we're doing, be honest. We want clean air, we want clean food and water. Is this like the solution, or is it just one of many things we should be trying to evolve our energy usage around? I just want to put that out there. Yeah, and for the record, I am not against electric cars either. It's about efficiency. And if we're trying to get to efficiency, I mean, obviously,

the same equation could probably be done with a gasoline-powered car. However, they're not being mandated on us. And also, this transition is not happening within a first. year period, what you said leads to a lot of infrastructure problems and at the worst end of the slave labor, straight up slave labor in Africa to get these essential minerals and a domination of these minerals by China. So there's a national security issue at that point. So that's, you know, you mentioned the electricity that uses a charge this. Well, that's good, but not even the charging stations are really up to speed at this point. So a new research by Harvard that came out. This is the headlines that we're making. One in five public EV chargers in the U.S. don't work, study finds.

And this is the study here. The state of EV charging in America. Harvard Research shows charges 78% reliable and pricing like the Wild West. So they're saying basically that the pricing on these could go anywhere from $21 to fill up the car, the charge the electric battery. And there's no there's no really oversight in the pricing. And there's not a lot of oversight in the maintenance of these electric charging stations. So there's a lot of failures that are happening as well. So there's still a lot of bugs to iron out. And again, in a rapid transition, you have rolling blackouts

that are going to affect this like we saw in California. These are just problems that are not just kind of minor problems. If you have a whole vehicle class of cars that are on the road now mandated to your people, that is a problem when you have electricity problems on top of that or the charging stations aren't working. So these are just issues, and that's actually a problem people have cited. This is one of the headlines here. America is now less likely to buy an electric vehicle and worry about the charging options. So overall, people said they were likely to buy a car that dropped now to 58% in this study. It was 8,000 people by Joe Mortar.

So, you know, Jeffrey, I think, you know, I had a Tesla for a little while when we were living in California. And, you know, one of the things that was, it was really great for commuting. If you, if all, All you're doing is going to work and back, you know, and you're inside of that sort of 250-mile range, I think, is what the car had while we had it. But I tried to go skiing with it once, right? We go up to Mammoth with the family. And I have to tell you, it was like a white knuckle. It was like, I equated it to like scuba diving, right?

You dive, you're going. Then you're like, can I, like, how much further can I go, you know, and you're trying to look at what the next station is. You're not really getting a clear read out because you're actually burning energy fast. It's not even. And then you're trying to slow down to save energy. And you're like, am I going to make it to that next super charging station? Because if I have to go to a regular one, I'm going to spend seven hours charging.

And then you get there. Then you're sitting there for an hour. And it just, like, the whole, it was actually like very panic-inducing. You got your kids in the car. You know, if you're like me, you're really pushing it. And you're like, oh, my God, am we going to get to that next station? You know, it was I said, okay, we're going to go ahead and take the SUV ski from now on. Tesla only for, and eventually we let that car go.

I'm not saying we never own one again, but for those who are even considering it, stick to commuting, you know, circumnavigating, you know, counties and state lines can be very nerve-racking at electric car. Yeah, you know, and American states are no stranger to severe weather conditions when it comes to winter. So, I mean, having stranded on the side of the road, if those go out, that's a problem too. But now we've, let's bring something back to what we talked about before, So some of the things we do on the show is almost like a public service announcement to make sure people really are aware of things that a lot of people are not telling them. And one of them are the batteries in these cars are clearly, they're not perfected technology yet. And one of the issues is when they get damaged, there's a collision or whatever happens.

Sometimes there's thermal runaway, which means the battery starts to smoke. It starts to go up and it explodes. And even in the Tesla manuals and firefighters is common knowledge now. You really can't pour water on these because this excite. it even further and accelerates that reaction. So you just have to let them burn. And so this happened in South Korea recently, a headline that was coming out of that,

exploding Mercedes-Benz EV prompts parking garage electric vehicle bans in South Korea. So we have some B-roll of this video here. You can see this. I'm going to keep reading this article. It says an unplugged electric Mercedes-Benz sedan caught fire last Thursday in an underground car product at an apartment complex in Ichun,

West of Seoul, according to fire authorities, more than 700 residents were evacuated due to water and power outages and the blaze damaged some 140 cars according to the each metropolitan city government 23 people were hospitalized so in south korea currently they're they're considering banning all types of electric cars and parking garages because when those go up not only you have infrastructure problems because it's burning all the cars you have the gasoline cars in there but you also have other electric batteries that go up and it kind of has another layer on top of that thermal runaway so So that's another issue that a lot of people aren't talking about with these electric cars is this battery issue. But it's not just electric cars because these lithium ion batteries are in everything from our cell phones to scooters to skateboards to you name it. And so there's been a lot of videos coming out. And I think this is important. People really need to post these videos and continue showing the reality of this situation that we're in. So someone posted recently a dog chewing on a lithium ion battery.

And this was in a house. And you can see this is an issue here. because it's a highly flammable mattress right in the middle. And here's spoiler alert. The dogs are fine. So this thing goes up. And you can see the dogs kind of just hanging out going. What do you mean the dogs are fine, Jeffrey?

What's wrong with? Those dogs have PTSD for life. They have no idea what's just happened there. That's true. That's true. Yeah. And so you have those situations. Thank God someone was home.

Thanks God they were able. But, you know, if this happened in a garage next to your, you know, your lawnmour gasoline, if you have that there, you get some problems. And you can see these things, you're not just going to go over there and put a pot over it and make it go out or throw some water on that and make it go out. This is a situation that will probably take out your house. And, you know, even individual people. So a lot of apartment buildings, we reported on this all the way from New York to London everywhere are banning electric scooters because that's a way a lot of people use to get around in these large cities. And they put them in hallways of apartments.

And when those go up and those batteries go up, obviously you have a huge situation here. And there's another video, this is out of China. A lot of people are using these type of batteries. This is a gentleman here, he gets into an elevator. And this is probably the most nightmare situation you can possibly think of having it go up in an elevator and you're trapped. And so this is why we're reporting out.

Let's be clear for anyone watching that. We didn't show you the rest of it. That, I don't think that person survives in the end. They drag a severely burned human out of the bottom the one that finally opens up down below. It's really a horrifying situation. You know, Jeffrey, we have been showing these videos. And I went, you know, my wife Lee watched the last time we did this and she said, oh my God, ever our son has his electric skateboard just sits, you know, up on his wood shelves. So, you know, I grabbed it and I was like, oh, yeah, let's get it out of here.

And I was like, where do I put it? If I put in the garage, that's still the same rafters of my if it goes up and there, it's going to, you know what I mean? I was like, oh, yeah, I was like, I don't want to leave it out in the rain. I was like, really like, do I put it in my barn? I mean, everywhere you look, it was kind of like, I mean, it's almost like they've got to make outdoor containers you keep these things in or something. Because I really, honestly, no matter where I put that, if it burns, I got a problem. Right.

And I think for people watching, I think it's important to just get those as far away from where you sleep as possible. Yeah. And have your fire detectors, check your batteries, make sure those are on. Because those fire detectors will go off right away because the smoke, those create instantly. when they go up. I mean, if someone's home and hopefully they don't have your plugs in, they'll be able to hear that piece. So I mean, just those two bits alone, that's going to save, you know, hopefully help a lot of people. But, you know, let's move on because what time of year is this? Well, it's back to school. And what happens when we go back to school,

especially in the COVID and post-COVID era? Well, we start seeing the news report like this. State health leaders are urging parents to make sure their kids are up to date on vaccinations. Back to school season is here, which means it's a good time to get your children's vaccines. Public health officials are now sounding the alarm about the number of parents choosing to skip vaccines. The Ohio Department of Health hosted a discussion this morning, a bit notably low vaccination rates around the globe. Kansas and Missouri lag behind the national vaccination rate. One issue may be mistrust of vaccines in the wake of the pandemic. Data shows that post-pandemic, vaccine hesitancy among parents ticked up.

It's the private home and charter schools where parents are opting to keep their kids exempt from the shot schedule. The World Health Organization and the United Nations Children's Fund found that about 21 million kids missed one or more vaccination in 2023. That's two and a half million more than in 2019. I feel like we're at some level falling off a cliff in slow motion here because there's just such a negative feeling about vaccines. Yes, there are, Paul.

It's slipping through his fingertips. He must be terrified. Boy, Paul's head must be spinning after the last five years. What a ride for them, I imagine. Well, you know, one of the conversations coming into this year, which is a little different than last year, are the COVID vaccines. So you had much more of a push last year and the years prior to that to mandate these COVID vaccines. And we're seeing slowly but surely people saying, we got it wrong.

And New South Wales Premier on his way out said this. COVID-19 vaccine mandates were wrong. Former New South Wales Premier Dominic Peret says as he exits politics. So it's interesting you can say that now as he's getting out of there. He said, you know, as the house is burning behind him. Yeah, it was a bad idea, but I don't need to be reelected. So see ya. Yeah.

But here in the United States, we have this. So these headlines, as you see it, it's like clockwork every August going into September. you see these headlines start to ramp up. More than half of US states reporting very high COVID activity level, CDC. There's another one. North Carolina is one of 27 states with very high COVID activity. CDC says, time for a new vaccine. So they start tacking this on their.

Experts encouraged getting back COVID vaccine amid rising cases. Well, you know, what a coincidence. These rising cases right going into the school. And when they talking about, we're talking about the CDC's monitoring and how are they monitoring? Well, they're not looking at hospitals. aren't overflowing. They're not having all of these positive cases swamping your general practitioner right around the corner. Mask wearing is not going, you know, coming back on for the rest of the

population. It's wastewater. They're checking the wastewater. And this is still a new technology for detecting COVID. And this is actually the graph that they're going by. So it's only been going on since 2022. So we're talking technology of two years to detect COVID. And you can see the ups and downs there. But this is probably one of the least accurate ways, PCR testing, still not too accurate, depending on cycle counts that they're testing from. But now we're testing the wastewater with PCR testing. So you have a layer upon a layer of accuracy issues. But we can see in that chart, you know, it's going up according to that chart.

But you're reading about wastewater detection, it's a data point, but it's not meant to drive public health policy. I mean, there's so many factors. Rainstorms can flood the storm drains and the wastewater. They can dilute it. I would imagine even vaccine campaigns if you have shedding because they're not stopping transmission. You perhaps have this shedding issue. That could affect it as well.

Again, not a perfect technology, but they're using the mainstream media is using that to kind of piggyback off that because a new booster's coming out and the school season starting. So you have this perfect back-to-school situation. And this is where it looks like in the headlines. as students had backed to class, are schools ready to handle COVID-19? So they're trying to bang this drum here. But when it comes to colleges, it's important to know that there's only 20 colleges that still mandate. It's crazy to believe that 20 colleges are still mandating COVID vaccines.

But thanks to no college mandates, they've been really trying to reverse this, to bring attention to this issue. And that's the list right there. So your child or your young adults are going to one of these colleges, you still. still have exemptions typically. For the rest of the colleges, obviously there are no mandates, but if they're still trying to do that, even still try a list. Just bring that list back up. It's just for all those parents out there that are looking.

This is a good list when you think of sending your child to higher learning. These are institutions that are incapable of learning anything. So I think maybe want to rethink whether your kids should even be going to these schools if they can't read science and understand what is happening around the country. the failure of that vaccine to do anything. A mandate, by the way, all they say it can do, and I think we've proven that it doesn't even do that, which is just to just maybe reduces your symptoms.

So to mandate it is absolutely ridiculous. It does nothing to protect your neighbor. In fact, you're more likely to walk around infected and not know it and get everyone else around you infected and sick. So the fact that these universities cannot wrap their heads around that would have me questioning whether that's somewhere I want my child to be, you know, getting any information.

In taking that investigation you were talking about that we've done here further on the COVID vaccine, you know, when it was rolled out, we had these issues, even in the trials, they had issues with myocarditis, heart inflammation, all of these issues. And so we saw those in elite athletes when it first came out as well, because these are people that are pushing their heart to the maximum boundary on a regular basis. But now we're hearing about this, we're seeing it, but we're hearing kind of secondhand now that it was happening to the elite military fighting forces of the United States. States in the Navy SEALs. Take a listen. The only thing that changed between Class 350 and 351,

and this can be controversial, the mandatory COVID vaccine. It's the only variable that changed. Now, let me qualify that with. I do not want to get into the politicized debate about all the things that happened during COVID. However, what both sides of the aisle have absolutely agreed upon is that the vaccine produces fatigue, as does the virus, sometimes long fatigue. It happens. Having had the vaccine or the virus both times and the vaccine, I can tell you, yeah, it produces a lot of fatigue in me as well. So what's interesting is the mandate for the vaccine came down for class 350, but it was the week before they started Hell Week. So we said, no, no, no, we're going to waive that. That's way too close. It's way too much risk. We don't know what's going to happen. So we let them do it after Hell Week.

So 351 was the very first class that we then gave the COVID vaccine to as they started. first phase right beforehand. What's interesting about that, too, is all the attrition data for classes 351, 352, which is where Kyle died, and 353, show that the majority of the attrition happened within the first 48 to 72 hours of those classes, which was another anomaly that was different from everything we'd seen in the past. What kind of makes sense when you think about the fact that these guys were just really fatigued?

You gave them a shot that fatigued them and then expected them to perform in some of the most difficult training as we dropped the hammer on day one of first phase. and then we acted surprised when they all quit. I can't remember which class it was, but one of them, over 100 people quit within 72 hours. The helmets had lined the corner. We weren't even done with week one. I brought in a PhD because I was losing my mind.

I'm like, I need you to help me. Like, what is going on? And he said, Brad, I'm telling you, I've looked at this stuff for 14 years. I've studied every single soft branch and selection assessment and training. When this kind of thing happens, it's usually cadre running amok. I was like, come look, please tell me. Tell me I'm taking crazy pills.

He's like, I'm bringing my bias with me. Just so you know, I said, bring your bias. He walked away and said, it's not your cadre. At the time, we hadn't isolated it down to that one variable, but he had a lot of other variables he added to the mix, which were absolutely contributory as well. So it's just a false narrative that we were just ramping up training. The data shows it.

It's the only variable that changed. What's interesting, too, is the attrition starts dropping off a few classes later. Well, why? Well, that would make sense as now people are entering the Navy going to boot. boot camp, getting their shot at boot camp, and having 12 weeks to bleed off the effects of the fatigue before they check into buds, then do the seven weeks of prep, and then start first phase. So it makes sense the attrition would start spiking down, right about the time I changed command, by the way.

Wow, super interesting, you know, and these are the types of things. We've had a few looks into military data, but they are, that data set that they're working on there, you know, is very well documented. the military have a very sort of controlled everything's in a computer. They know when they're getting their shots, know what they're not. You know, this is the type of thing that we should really be requiring that, like, that military data be just, you know, scrubbed of IDs so you don't, like, out anybody. But that should be open to the public.

That should be open for the public to be looking at right now, not just Pfizer, not just Mederna, not just our government that forced everybody to take this product because we know they don't want to prove to you they made a mistake. But can you imagine if that database of that military data was just in an open, you know, open server where people could just come from all over the world and say, let me take a look at what we see in there. I bet you'd find some amazing things. Yeah, and, you know, that would be better because we're not going to get our hands on the medical information of athletes or people in the NFL or anything like that. But that military data is systematic and very precise. And, you know, it is our government.

So I wonder if there's an inroad in there. Yeah, yeah. We should work on that. I'm going to call Aaron as soon as we get done with this show. That's what we're talking about. So as we're going back to school here, for the kids and for the young adults going to college, you have those 20 colleges that are still really, I mean, to use

a word, anti-science at this point. So there are exemptions. The COVID vaccine is not mandated and there are exemptions to that religious exemptions are out there. And these are things that I think parents who don't want their kids to get this vaccine, the shot should be really looking at. And remember, vaccine hesitancy

as a whole, the entire CDC schedule that we, you heard on that that montage that we played is really driven by the COVID response. There's now studies that show that we've covered those. Even Anthony Fauci in testimony said that the mandates during COVID are going to hurt vaccine hesitancy in general. So these aren't parents. These aren't conspiracy theorists doing this. This was this is what the government did during that time that is hurting the vaccination program. So that's the finger point that it should be properly pointed to are the government. mandates and not parents at this point. Absolutely. And for everyone watching, you may not know, we have a website for our nonprofit,

I Can Decide.org, where we have our white papers, all the science that we've uncovered through all of the legal work that we've done and our, you know, our science research, our outside specialist, but just the compiling of all ways to look at, including our debate with health and human services, we sent a massive, uh, pocket. of requests and a whole letter about what we think is wrong with your vaccine program, and they responded with links. So you can see what our argument was. You can see how they responded back with their links. And then you can see how we responded back to them with our links saying, no, you're inaccurate. These are not safe for these reasons. And they've never responded

to us since. So if you just want to, if you really want to geek out on this stuff or get really deep, there's no cleaner evidence and information than what you'll find at Icandecide.org. and just click on our white papers there and just looked at all that vaccine information. Yeah. It's the most official vaccine debate that exists in public at this point. And it is written, so people have to do,

they do have to read it. But when I first saw that, when we got together, Dell, back in 2017, 2016, 2017, you showed me that. And it was, it's a mind-blowing document and it's a public document and it's from our regulatory agencies that are writing back saying, basically we don't really have what you're asking for. So everyone should read that.

It should be all over social media continuously. Especially if you're considering injecting one of these things into your kid. If you really want to say, I did my due diligence, then go do that reading. It's your child's life really depends on you making some correct decisions. Stop just doing what you're told because everyone else said they're doing it. I guarantee you, Jeffrey, as we see this decline, we in our lifetime are going to watch a totally different perspective of the vaccine program. I think we will look at it in the end. history will look back and say, yeah, that was a mistake, but we destroyed a lot of children's

lives, millions and millions and millions. But it's just coming around. I know even there's people watching right now that struggle with that idea, but that's just because you haven't looked at as much science as Jeffrey and I have. Not yet. And the dam, the dam is broke because people are able to speak about it freely now. So you're seeing a lot more podcasters, a lot more interviewers bringing these conversations up, allowing the guests to speak on these topics and have these questions and openly

wonder, well, maybe these might be leading to this chronic illness disease and children, this explosion. So this is something that we're seeing the beginning of a whole new paradigm of debate around this, which is so exciting. Yeah. Well, Jeffrey, amazing reporting, as always. I'm going to hop off here and talk a little bit more about Highwire Plus. But one of the things for people, you know, as I sit here thinking about, the big question always comes up. Well, what about polio? What about polio, Dell and that vaccine and what went on there, that's one of the deep dives you do in Jeffrey Jackson investigates. It's not out yet. You're still working on this series, but it's going to be very exciting to see. What is that deep dive really all about? Any hints to what we're going to see there?

Yeah, well, I remember we talked about that and we decided this should be the first one because people are ready for the first time to have a bigger conversation around vaccines after COVID. And the conversation that kept happening, the next barrier was, all right, COVID was rushed, but what about polio? So what about polio? Well, we look through, you know, over a century of information, data, talk to all the experts in the field. And we have a documentary that's going to come out. And in my opinion, I think it's going to end the conversation when people ask, what about polio? We can say, this is polio, for real.

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All right, my next guest. This is one of those sort of bucket list interviews. You know, someone that I literally grew up with Roseanne Barr as an entertainer. And going through the old videos, is that we're going to sort of play some of that for you. the old Johnny Carson bits. It's like, oh my God, that's right.

I remember that. And I didn't even realize she was from Denver, so I didn't realize how close to her I was living in growing up in Boulder, Colorado. But she has truly been on the cutting edge. Whether you realized it or not, Roseanne Barr set out to change television as we know it, to speak about humanity in a way that we hadn't seen it before. I know you thought it just looked like another sort of middle-class family show.

There was actually an agenda to it. And that agenda eventually got her into a lot of trouble. We're going to talk about all of it, all the details, even the ones everyone else is afraid of. This is Roseanne Barr. So would you welcome, please, Roseanne Barr. All right, Rosanne Barr. Please welcome back to the show, Roseanne Barr. She's a young housewife from Denver, and she started performing stand-up comedy at the comedy works out in Denver.

And she moved to Hollywood and appears at the college. comedy store and we introduced her to television a couple of months ago and we thought she was marvelous. Because I'm a housewife. That word and I hate the word homemaker too. I want to be called domestic goddess. I got three kids, I'll tell you how I had him. You'll love it. I had one with the birth control pill and I had one with a diaphragm and then I had another one with the IUD. Get your peanut.

The author of the character and in fact the author of the concept and the and the context and everything having to do with that show. It came from here. I'm just going to look like a freak, that's all. What else is new? Shut up. This is why some animals eat their young. We knew we were going to break something down.

We were going to kick it in. We want it to. That's what the Niners were good for. Do you guys cheat on your income tax? Absolutely not. There wasn't resistance to having a show about a working class family on television. There was resistance to have a show about intelligent working class people on television.

I won a Peabody, and, you know, that's very cool. And, yeah, I did knock the number one show, the Cosby Show, out of first place, almost immediately. Entertainer, Roseanne Barr is jumping into the presidential race. Actress and comedian Roseanne Barr is running for the Green Party's presidential nomination. Roseanne Barr released a statement saying Democrats and Republicans were not working in the best interests of the American people. Can an intelligent woman win in a really stupid rigged system? We'll find out. So in here, Roseanne Sherry Barr. Here I go. Here I go. Here I go. Here I go. Running for president.

Are you talking about medical marijuana? I'm talking about, uh, medical marijuana to keep it legal because it has health benefits at THC. Definitely helped with childhood leukemia and a lot of things. THC is a good drug. And we talk about that on the show. I'm also talking about all marijuana legal all the time. I'm also talking about that. So without a prescription?

Yeah, it should because this is a free country. Just like alcohol, as long as you're of age. 20 years later, the Connors are back and alive. Roseanne premieres again Tuesday night here on ABC. 18 million people watching. I guess you can catch lightning in a bottle twice. I'm very grateful that people watched and support it, and the fans are back, and I'm really thankful for that.

Is this the one? Is this the real couch? Now, this is a replica. This is a replica? The Smithsonian Institute has a real one. It is one of the most shocking developments in TV history. ABC cancels its number one comedy, Roseanne,

after a racist tweet from its star. This morning comedian Roseanne Barr offering a new apology in her first TV interview since she was fired from her hit sitcom revival, Roseanne. You know, I made a mistake, obviously. It cost me everything. And I paid the price for it. Greetings, humans, earthlings, and others. Welcome to the Roseanne Barr podcast. Everything I say, people like he's always laughing at me. And then it comes true and you never go, I'm sorry, I made fun of you, Roseanne. You was right. I do think intelligence is winning. And so I think that we all are magnetizing to each other and waking each other up higher and higher. They have tried to strip us of everything, including our right to say, no, we won't take a forced medication of any sort.

Free speech is being shut down to such an extent that you can't be a poet or an artist or somebody who is a provocateur. or which all comes together in comedian. That's why I'm going to start referring to myself as the artist formerly known as Roseanne. Well, she could be one of the biggest rebels of my lifetime. She's pushed the envelope throughout her entire career, and it is my honor and pleasure to be joined now by Roseanne Barr. Hey, go like next, I'm a germopolder too.

All right, a germaphobe who doesn't vaccinate. That's a weird combo. It's a good one, though. It's nice to be with you. It's good to have you here. I like your interviews and your show. Thank you. Thank you.

You know, just watching that, you know, journey through time and what an amazing life. What an amazing career. And, you know, as I was thinking of preparing for this interview, I think you may be were the world's introduction to cancel culture. I mean, I don't really know that anyone really. really got canceled at that level the way that you did. No, I was, you know, I was the one that, you know, lost everything. Yeah. My character was killed.

Yeah. They stole my life's work. And then they blacklisted and whitelisted and censored me off every platform. And, you know, the way they killed my character from an opioid overdose, after I did a season about opioid problems in America, It was just such a horrible slap in the face, like a negation of my work and everything. Just the final adding insult to injury after, you know, they were just so incredibly insulted that I didn't follow the Democrat Party narrative. And I was a heretic that needed to be punished.

And they did it. So, you know, they had always done that to me because I was a woman. And because I was a working class woman, I didn't have any degree from an ivy colored college. You know, it's always a class issue, but also a sexist, misogynistic class thing in Hollywood. They're not particularly friendly to women. Yeah. And it's never improved. It's only gotten worse.

But it was always a struggle from day one, the day I walked into. that town. I'm super curious. This is an interview I've probably wanted to do my, I mean, for decades now, even before all the controversy, I mean, you were just this dynamic figure that came out, made being a mom, middle class, middle America, mom, just being honest about the struggles of that life. To begin with, what made you think that that would be funny? Like, how did you get into comedy? Well, my dad wanted to be a stand-up comic. Okay.

So my dad kind of made me into one. He trained me to be one. And when I was a good girl, he would let me watch. He would let me stay up and watch Johnny Carson's monologue. And if there's a comedian on Johnny Carson, he let me watch him too. And then we always watch it Sullivan the comic every Sunday. I lived for that because I wanted to hear what my dad said, because I knew my dad was really smart in comedy.

And he had all the comedy albums and played them all the time. And I just was a student of comedy through my dad always. And my dad would explain comedy to me. Like he would say, this guy says funny things, but this guy says things funny. And he was like a master class in comedy, my whole life. And also, if I was to say things funny to my dad, he wouldn't hit me. But if I'd tell a joke, man, And you better watch out.

Like I said, I said, you know, they give these kids timeouts now. Well, my dad would give me a timeout too. And, you know, when I woke up, I'd behave myself. You know, I was out for about 30 seconds. That was a good time out there. But, yeah, if I would insult my father, but it was funny, he wouldn't hit me. So I tried to come up with some, you know, when they have these shows, about the insults, you know, roast.

Yeah. I'd tried to get a real good, mean roast in there, but funny. Yeah, better be funny. It better be funny. I was just trained there. And I didn't want to get hit in the head, but I wanted to say, God, you're an a-hole, you know? It ain't right what you do.

I wanted to say that really bad. And so I found colorful and hilarious ways to say it, but I did get hit in the head a lot. And I think the result of being hit in the head a lot for not being funny kind of paid off at the end. Yeah, right. It did. Yeah, because I can write a joke. I can really write a joke, and that was my talent.

And I knew I had it because I worked so hard, and a lot of it came natural. I was a cocktail waitress, and I knew how to squeeze. the tips out of the men, plus I wore a horrendous outfit that made them want to tip you. Yep. But, you know, you got to do it, you got to do. So anyways, I get a lot of tips because I tell jokes, you know, and they say, one guy says, you ought to go down there at a comedy club there in Denver, so I did, because it took me a year to write five minutes. Yeah.

But I always knew it was going to come. I always knew. You just had that instinct. You knew. I just knew I could do it, you know, and I wanted to. especially when I was making 15 cents a week or whatever it was. I used to wash dishes in a busy restaurant for 12 hours a day, six days a week for 50 bucks a week. Then I see Eddie Murphy in the movies making tons.

And I go, man, I want out of here. I want to, I want Eddie Murphy money and I can do it. But women in comedy, I mean, was it, was it, was it, was it, Don Rickles, someone like that said that women will never be funny. that can't be comedians. That was Johnny Carson. Oh, was that Johnny Carson that said that? All the men were saying that, and Johnny Carson said it too.

And don't you know, he apologized to me in private. And he told me in private years later, when I did go on his show, he said to me, offstage, you know, do you write your own material? I said, yes, I do. You know, I was shaking, Mr. Carter's. And he said, you're not. going to be the biggest woman comic that's ever been, I give you my guarantee, and he made me that, too. Wow.

So these men, they didn't, I don't know, I guess I mind them their aunt or their mom or something. It was a, in Jewish words, we say, Hamishah, and I hear black people say homie. It's a home girl, you know. I mind them of their mom or their aunt or their sister or something. and I certainly didn't look like a threatening model or anything. I looked like a home girl. And I could do it, you know. I wouldn't hired for my good looks, nor if I'd have sex with somebody.

You know what I mean? No, I didn't sleep. You didn't sleep. You beeped to punch. I was sure that's what it was. I know. And plus I just was in the right place at the right time, and God put me there.

I feel. And then I felt so gratified and gracious or whatever, grateful. But I didn't know I was just stepping into the pits of hell. Just when I got my fame, I stepped into the lion's den. I always say, you know, I was in the lion's den there, but there's always a fourth guy in there with me. Or I wouldn't have survived it. Yeah.

It was a whirlwind of horror. From the beginning. Yeah, from the very beginning. Just as we get into the Connors and Roseanne the show, does it mirror in any way the home life you were describing? I mean, you know, were you middle class, lower middle class growing up? Well, we was, my family was on welfare, which was unusual for Jewish people. It's a weird story, but we did eat the welfare cheese, I'll say that. My dad had eight teeth on the top and eight teeth on the bottom, and he'd just,

take big old bites out of the welfare cheese. He wouldn't even bother to cut it or nothing. And I was an entrepreneurial sort, so I charged all my friends a nickel to come in, look at the bite marks on the welfare cheese, and I made quite a handsome living at that at my neighborhood for candy. But, yeah, my dad was an unusual person,

and my mother was an unusual person. My dad was a football player. which was unusual for a Jewish person. He was a center at his high school. My mom was a beauty queen, and I was her fat, ugly daughters standing in the corner chewing on my hair. But they were both kind of crazy.

Like my dad was always trying to kill us, which I didn't realize till later, but every day when we get up for school, we have to go down in the basement to get our clothes out of the dryer there. And in order to turn on the light, we had to stand in this pool of water of water that my dad had devised there, big pool of water, and you'd have to stand in it

and reach over your head and screw in this big old naked light bulb, and you'd get this horrible shock every day, and then you turn on the light and get your clothes, and we always made fun of it, me and my siblings, and go, oh, you go down, get your clothes, get electrocuted, and then get your lunch and go to school. And it was always booby-trapped, you know. So, uh, I don't know, I got a large awareness of things where you always got to be aware, hypervigilance, it's called, because I didn't know what was going to kill me. So that made me even more funny, you know, and I love being funny because I realize everything's just a stupid joke. Yeah. It's just all ridiculous.

looking for meaning in a stupid, ridiculous joke is a waste of time, you know. So when you got the television show, how long had you been a stand-up before that transition? Four years. Four years. So four years of stand-up, touring the country. I got my 45 minutes together in Denver, and these comics come through Denver headliners, and they say, ought to go to L.A. and let Mitzie Shore see you. She's going to love you. When I got my 45 minutes together, I went out there to L.A. to audition for Mitsy Shore. The first night she saw me, I did five minutes. I killed because they never seen nothing like me.

Yeah. And she told me, go do 20 in the big room, which the waitresses at the time says she never took nobody from audition to the star stage. while I was on that star stage doing my 20 and George Slaughter was in the audience and he comes up after and says I want you to star on a special I'm doing in two weeks called Women of Comedy

so I said well that's good because I'll go home and get my kids in Denver come back in two weeks which I did and during the rehearsal for that the guy from the tonight show saw me and comes up and goes I want to put you on Friday and I was this

overwhelmed I couldn't believe it so I says okay so I did then when I was on that show Rodney Dangerfield saw me and asked me to play his wife which he's never since or before asked nobody to be his wife and oh I got to be so mean to him it was so fun and we loved each other and then Julio Iglesias was also on that show that night and asked me to open for him in 18 cities across America so I says okay so I did that and that's how I got my series So all that was within Four and a half years of me

Ever going on stage And everything that happened In LA happened within two weeks Wow But really that first night when Mitzie saw me And she promised me if I moved there That she would take care of me And let me work in her flux in Vegas

That's not like anyone need to take care of you You basically just exploded I said I gotta go home and get my kids She goes, ah fuck here kids You know when they grow up, you'll just get them all a head shrinker like I did. Forget them, leave them with their dad. You got a career, you know.

Yeah. I said, no, I got to go. I got to get them. How old were you kids at the time? 11, 9, and 7. Wow. Okay, so you get the show. It's based on your idea.

How did that pitch work? Did someone come to you, we want to do a show? Did you say already have the idea? Yeah. Yeah, they saw my act. They hired a guy to work with me to develop my act into a series. Okay. Yeah, so that all happened.

Then they all went nuts. You know how they do? I don't know. You worked there, right? Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, then they start saying, like, she'd never say that. I says, who? Roseanne.

Roseanne would never say that. I'm like, what the hell? Who? What? That crap, you know. Right. And then they want you to be anybody but you, even though the name's Roseanne. So you have to fight for your place in your own show throughout the seasons?

How many seasons was it? Nine. Nine. The first time. Yeah. There are so many stories you can't even. You wouldn't even believe. I am going to write a book about the Rosent Show, though.

Now that I'm freed from Egypt, as I say, God took me out of Egypt there. And I'm going to tell every single thing because it's so unbelievable why you would do this to somebody who made you mind. Right. Right? Why you would do that to somebody who was the product by which you got millions of dollars. It's like just they're just they are not good people. None of them are. None of them are good people and they would sell their own mother for extra $5.

And that's what I've learned about them. You know, they're just not good people and I never belonged there. But I had a good time and did meet some good people and and who are still my friends and who have ethics and are decent human beings that care about the world besides outside of their own bodies, you know, and I met many wonderful people, too. Are you proud of the show and the work that you did? Did you feel like you won enough battles to have made it worthy of your name? I mean, your name's on it.

It's supposed to be representing you. Totally worthy of my name, especially the last. last season that, you know, they're trying not to show, which was about, you know, the reboot. By the time they figured out what I was saying, they just freaked. By the time I did those 10 episodes in the 10th season, I think they were 11, I can't remember. But once they saw where I was going, because they thought that they were heavily monitoring me and that I was towing the party line. But then once they realized I was saying something bigger than that, bigger than any candidate,

bigger than any party. Then they all frigging crashed, you know. They all crashed and came after me. I mean... But I did it. And here's the thing. I did it. I showed the, I showed as, oh, I can't remember his name that wrote eyes wide shut.

Oh, yeah, Kubrick. Kubrick. From the people I had. and considered to be geniuses, not just guys telling me someone said they're genius, but somebody I admired as a genius told me that that was the greatest portrait of an American family ever in media. So I, like that, I won a Peabody. I won several Humanitus Awards.

The show was never nominated for an Emmy, which I considered to be the greatest honor ever, because neither was the honeymooners, the other great show about the unwashed working class, which they despise. But I showed a strong working class family who were not buffoons on corporate television, and that was a major miracle because they despise the working class. They always have, and they do consider them deplorables and buffoons and baboons and baboons and every other thing as to how stupid the parties think that the working class is and how they present their platforms to them. And I did go to parties with members of that particular party, although I think it's a uniparty. But I did go when I was a dam.

So you identified as a dem. What did you say you were a Democrat as you were creating this character and creating the show? Is that sort of... My parents and the... their parents, you know, they, they were like Democrats, you know, they were Democrats, because as my father already said, it's the work and it's the party of the work and man of labor rights. And, you know, at a certain time, he thought it was. Yeah. Do you think it was? I mean, I grapple this because I've, I've said on my show many times, I grew up a progressive liberal from

Boulder, Colorado, and then people will say, oh, the party changed and it left me. And that's what I started with. But then slowly as I've gotten deeper and deeper into it, I start looking at myself differently. I start looking at my past differently. The way I used to cringe when I'd see like an eagle and a flag, it's like, ugh, you know, that and and founding fathers didn't really mean much to me. And I believe the constitution was dated. There was, you know, and And really, I would say this theme that human beings are a disease on the planet. This is the part that gets me the most because I still have family members and close friends that talk about people that way, as though animals should be respected more because they don't

do to this planet what human beings do. So I look back now, I think that was always the case. And so I'm not sure the party changed. I just think it's just finally getting to some. end goal of making us hate ourselves and our existence here so much that we're going to vote to make sure we can ever drive a car again, that we can't get outside of the city limit, that they take away our meat and we're eating crickets. I mean, like, we're voting for this stuff, right?

Mm-hmm. Well, I mean, it's a really deep conversation, but I always say there is no difference between the far right and the far left. Right there, that confluence is where all the money in the world changes hands. Because they're both being sponsored by the same people who like to divide everybody because they sell weapons to both sides and they make money on it. They also make money on privatized prisons where they lock up people who don't, Yeah.

Go this way or that way and converge in the middle. They got it all sewed up. They got it all figured out how to introduce a internal enemy to every group so that there's a war in every group. Every ethnic group, every political group, every class group, there's a war. And then they fundraise and make more money. Yeah. It's just the money party. An old friend of mine used to say they're money theists and they are very devout.

That's a great point. And they're not like us. They're not like us who pursue some sort of thought or hope that we are on a moral track that does not serve the few at the expense of the many, as all the great philosophers have told us. But that is one law for all. That's what all the great philosophers have said. One law for all. What's the heavy duty thing about that?

But that's what they hate. Yeah. They also hate individualism. Their group thinkers, their hive mind, and they like to collect everybody into that hive mind, although they themselves don't think that way. They have their operatives, and they have designed it all that is exactly like what they hate.

They sit atop like elitists, like especially in the Soviet Union. I told you my family escaped communism and came here, but they were still liberal. But, you know, at a certain point liberals, and I think we're in that time now, the whole liberal progressive thing, the veil is falling and we see what they are. They're not liberal, nor are they progressive. They're fascists. And that is like, you know, Hitler was a socialist too, but he put nationalist in front of it. He and Stalin were exactly the same.

They wanted to remove dissidents, poets, comedians. Hitler even, you know, wanted to remove the communists, and that is who he removed first. But remember, the communists that Hitler removed were the ones who talked about labor. And that's what the communists here did. They removed everyone who talked about labor. Because these communists are not your daddy's communists. They want to bring in people who will undercut American labor and do the job for 32 cents an hour. Whether they have to put them in prison where they get paid 21 cents an hour, Kamala and Biden purposely, and so did Obama, targeted black working class youth as fodder for prisons and operatives to raise money for, you know, it's called

the boule, for, you know, the black elite that control all the other ones. They care nothing for the black people, the black workers, the black proletariat, as we would say. They care nothing. They care nothing for black survival, education, health care, nothing. They just want to make their friends rich. That's what everyone in our government, that's all they care about, and none care about us. Like the Democrats brought back the draft, and I was like, that's so great, because that's where Antifa and BLM and all them are going to go. They don't have no jobs for them. They're, you know, they don't want to pay them fairly or give them benefits or a future. They're just cannon fodder. To sum up, you've been accused. Excuse me, but I just have to tell the truth

sometimes. I know it's not appropriate. Don't write me any letters. I'm old. I don't care. You were pushing the envelope with Roseanne. I think people don't really recognize. You got grouped in every door. I kicked in every door. Tell me some of the doors you kicked in. The first one I kicked down, they don't want me to do nothing about having sex. So I did that. I said to Dan, let's do it. Oh, they were all over the place because I said to my supposed husband, let's do it. Well, every wife says that to her husband when she has to.

Yeah. Then the second one they got mad at was I says, Darlene's getting her period. Oh, they want nothing to do with that. Well, then why did you have trouble going to sleep? Were you worried about your basketball game? No, I wasn't worried about my basketball game. Did you screw up in history again, Darlene?

No, I didn't screw up in history again. Then what is a matter? I got my period, okay? When I was on the tonight show, they says I can't say the word uterus. Really? I'm like, are you kidding me? I can't say the word uterus at night? So they came back three days later and said,

they said you can say uterus. They used to send the sensor down. down to sit there with me. I made a big old friend of him. His name was Neil. And I'd go, Neil, can I say this? No. Can I say this? No. Then I'd get even worse and we'd laugh. But he'd help me configure. He became a friend. And I say, but this is the message and it's a good message. Right. And he was like a religious man who would help me. So shout out to Neil. Yeah, Neil. But then I, then I would, the next one was Halloween. Nobody likes Halloween. Nobody likes That's the devil.

The people in the South thinks it's about the devil. And I said, well, maybe it is about the devil, but I wanted to show on Halloween night to keep these kids inside. Because I knew kids were getting hurt on Halloween. So I wanted to do that show for the family to stay inside on Halloween. So they promised me I could do that because I didn't want kids outside on Halloween. Because bad stuff does happen to kids on Halloween. So I just had to frame it right and then they'd do it. Then they didn't want me to do a gay kiss.

They says they'd send it, they'd pull it and blah, blah, blah for the gay kiss. Well, I have two gay siblings and my brother was nine and had his nose broken nine times by the time he was nine. So I don't think you should beat up people that are, you know, gay children. I mean, when I look back now, it's probably better him getting his nose broke nine times. Now I think they're castrating gay children. And they're calling it something else, but it's like they're mutilating gay boys. And, you know, girls that don't act like they think girls are supposed to dress like a mermaid or something or else you cut their boobs off and, you know, cut off part of their leg and make a coat hand for their penis. Would your show be covering these topics?

Yeah, that's why they fired me because they figured, I figured it out after when they was, you know, just monitoring my Twitter. Like I said, David Hogg had his hand raised, and I go, that looks like a Nazi salute. Would you take it down, ABC? Could you take that down because it didn't follow, you know, the Democrat narrative there? And so I take it down because I tried to get along, tried to be nice, what have you. But freedom of speech comes in at a certain point. I oppose stuff like that, right?

I oppose anything that shows fascism as good. Yeah. And I knew they was doing the big switch then. And that is what they did. But anyway, and then, you know, they were just monitoring and calling every day. Don't say that. Don't say this. Don't make a joke anything to do with this administration.

Don't say that. And then on my show, they come down with 18 Trump jokes. And I go, where's a Hillary joke? I am here to be fair. I'm not just playing to one. That's why I got 28 million viewers. I play both sides. I'm a comic.

I'm not here to make a little point. I'm here to show America, you know, dialoguing together, not warring, not separating, not racial segregation that you're going for. I want people to talk, joke like we used to. You're ruining all that, and I want some Hillary jokes, too. So the guy comes down, we've got a Hillary joke. That's what he says to me, and his lips was hardly moving either.

we've got a Hillary talking. And it was a gauntlet. Like I was a friggin' traitor that was going to steal in the election. Right. You know, but they knew what they were doing. They got rid of me once they watched the whole 10th season and realized what I did,

which is hilarious. But they were just afraid that I'd tell everybody, hey, don't go get the jab. They was afraid I'd do that and that I'd say, blah, blah, they stole this here and they stole that. They were afraid I'd tell the truth. You can't have that on television. You have to have shaming people who think.

Like, you know, they do on all their shows to shame the president of the United States. But they never shamed Biden. So they feel, did they feel like they'd made you, like somehow they'd created a month, that they just didn't want to give you any more power? Is that, I mean, I know that you brought it to them as your idea. Bob Eiger himself said it's terrible when a star wield so much power. That's one of the reasons he said he fired me because it's terrible when a star wield so much power. Well, it wasn't so terrible when I was bringing 28 million viewers to you.

It wasn't Bob, but he was because Trump... Well, he walked away from it. They won't, I mean, it wasn't like you were, like, bombing and dying out. No, but the very next day, President Trump called to congratulate me as a friend in Hollywood on record. numbers, of course he would, right? And ABC refused to have that on their news. They were ashamed. They were ashamed because I think it cut into their fundraising. They couldn't always say Trump is a monster. Trump is they couldn't work it. You know, they couldn't work their fundraising. So I had to go on CBS. I mean, you can't have Satan endorsing one of your top shows.

Right. Right. So I go on CBS and talk about how exciting it was to have my ABC show honored by the president of the United States, no matter who he was, you know? Yeah. I mean, if Biden had called me, I would have said thank you as well. Yeah. You know, but they are just so far gone. But they think this is what's funny. They think they're fighting the Nazis.

They think Trump and people like me are the Nazis that they have to do anything. to stop, whereas their blueprint, if you look at it, is complete incarceration, forced experiments on captive populations by race and class. I mean, their blueprint is Auschwitz. And the thing is that fascists are really self-righteous and they have a sneer. That's what the Bible says. They have a sneer, and that's how you can. they're arrogant, which means they're ignorant.

But they always talk down to people who they think aren't as smart as them, which shows how stupid they are. And they always catch themselves. Hence, I say, boy, that veil is falling away. And there they are standing naked with nothing but their crap that they can't hide anymore. Because now we have the Internet, and it is not possible for any church or something. state or secret society to hide the truth from the people anymore. I agree the truth. The light is shining.

Because the people are smart. They're not stupid. And we know our leaders are though. They're stupid if they don't think we know what they're doing. If they don't think we know they're taking money from people that are not wanting the best for this country and the people in it, we'd have to be stupid as hell to not know. that, right? Yeah. They got to save their democracy of having no democracy.

Yeah. They're snake handlers. They talk out of both sides of their mouth with the snake tongue. That's what the Jews always say. He speaks with the snake tongue. And they do. The Native Americans, my people, my mom's... Oh, yeah, I was going to say there's so much in common.

Yeah. The snake tongue. Yeah. Yeah, the fork tongue. Like, you're talking out of your butt and your mouth, and which one are we supposed to believe? I'll go with the butt because it doesn't go through the head. Right.

I'd rather believe what you're talking about your butt because that's more true. It doesn't have a lot of publicists advising you your butt. You know, so I believe that more. True. But yeah, they're... Less calculated. Less calculated. Yeah.

But they're talking out their butt, and we have the video of them last year saying just the opposite. I don't think they're ignorant. I think they're paid to act ignorant. because, you know, I love this saying, you cannot wake somebody up who's pretending to be asleep. And they're pretending to be woke, which means asleep,

because they're getting the grift. They're all in on the grift, and they shouldn't be listened to. You can tell they're liar. You know, if God gave you any sort of, what do you call it, discernment at all, you can tell they're lying their butts off and they're paid.

Our whole Congress and all of them is paid. They're not by prostitutes for lobbyists. They're not there for us. We are watching a total control of, you know, search engines. Google these things. When you're searching, you can't even search, you know, the attempted assassination of Donald Trump without getting somehow, you know, you're getting Kamala Harris, you know, stuff.

We know social media is entering. Google's helping them cheat again. Like, so it's starting to, I mean, like folks, it's starting to close us out, right? We're getting closed out. you're being censored on YouTube. We've been censored on YouTube, Facebook. I know I'm shadow banned on all of those things. I have 300,000 followers, yet I get like 12 people. Well, we'll look at a post. I mean, all of this is happening. And I just wonder, it feels like,

I mean, I guess everything is an equal and opposite reaction. I feel like so many people, as you're saying, are waking up. They're like, I get it. I see that, you know, the emperor has no clothes. And all the Democrat donors, excuse me, it's nothing but child trafficking, drug use. Take a look at Democrat donors. Straight to Epstein Island, take a look. Did you do that research? I've looked at a bunch of pedophile, Ponzi scheme and herbers. It looks like it's on all sides.

I mean, I would say almost everyone in government seems to be, because otherwise you'd have Republicans calling Democrats out for blocking release of the, you know, the Epstein. Well, there is that. There is that. You feel like they're all cutting in. But a couple of the new ones, the couple of the new mega ones, they ain't. Yeah. A couple of the new people. Yeah.

Can we go back? I mean people who are like America first. I don't see them as. Yeah, I think, look, I think there's some new blood coming. There's some people that are really fighting for. I'd like to see new blood from every party, every side. I'd like to see people, American people, monitor. the polls to make sure stuff isn't.

We've got to get out there. It's up to us. It's not up to any. I mean, we can have lots of people running for lots of good offices. It ain't one. It ain't two. It ain't three. It's us.

We got to do the job. It's our country, right? Well, on that front, you ran for president. And I think that, you know, I remember that. I didn't remember what party. because when, you know, the whole controversy hit the tweet that destroy your... Can we look at that? Can we talk about it for a second?

I'd love to. Where's that tweet? We bring up that tweet. I want to just... All right, so here's the tweet. It started with New Post-WikiLeaks Julian Assange drops bombshell Obama CIA, also spied on French presidential candidates, has been published on SGT report. Michelle Park says Obama's secrets are coming out more and more every week. This is getting very interesting.

What a crooked man. He did it well. Max, M.A.S. He hit it well. Jarrett helped hide a lot. And then Roseanne Barr says, Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Aves had a baby equals VJ, which is Valerie Jarrett,

commenting on Jared's involvement in all of that. I thought what I did was subtitle a meme, a picture of Valerie Jarrett next to a picture. Well, in my act I say that I saw this meme and it was Valerie Jarrett next to a picture of Helena Bonham Carter in makeup for the movie Planet of the Apes, which I had already referenced several times in a three-month-old conversation with journalists in Iran about the Jared Obama-Iran deal and how that was. so much like Planet of the Apes, which was, Planet of the Apes is a movie about fascism and how they would arrest human beings who could speak or read.

And they were really afraid of humans who could speak or read. In fact, they denied that humans could do that. But when they saw Charlton Heston and others, they were like, oh my God, they're going to hurt us again like they did before we evolved into the beings we are now. And that's what it's about. It's about former victims, the apes, who humans had mistreated so horribly, and the apes evolved past humans. So that's what Planned of the Apes is about.

So it was, as Rod Serling, the author said, it was a movie about Nazi, fascist, Germany, and Jews. And that's always how I regarded that movie. It was a great movie about the fact. fascist movement in Germany. Yeah. So, which the Iran deal and what it did in, and the Muslim Brotherhood, what they did in Egypt with that fake Egyptian spring and all that. Yeah, the uprising, yeah.

It was just a way to destroy middle class women shop owners and entrepreneurs and enslaved the people. And that's what they did in Iran too, and it's what they're doing here. It's a class war, and it's a class war under the guise of a caliphate. You know, it always goes to a caliphate. Everything the Muslim Brotherhood is involved with always starts out as kind of a progressive thing, but it ends up a caliphate, and against women's rights, and against all working class rights. And that's what they did in Iran.

And you have an interesting connection with Iran because I, you know, I know you've told the story where you were visiting Israel and some Iranians reached out to you. You want to just sort of because you actually, you're not just an actor coming out of nowhere with this. You were actually in a conversation a lot of people don't know a whole lot about. So what happened? You took a trip to Israel. It's still a family in Israel. Is that right? Yeah, I do.

And I was in Israel and I was on a religious pilgrimage, I guess you could call it. And we went to all the holy sites to Jewish people all through the area there. And we were in the Galilee. And there were several of us. And we got phone calls just out of nowhere on our cell phones. And it was people in Iran. We still don't know how they got our numbers or anything. We don't know.

But they said, I'm so-and-so. I'm an Iranian. and we want you to know that we love the Jewish people and we love Israel and it's not how we're being portrayed and we don't like our government and we don't like what's happening. So I began that conversation and I had it on Twitter and it was during that conversation of three months

where Disney was stalking my speed and they found that tweet and that was what all they needed because they called that a racist tweet, which it wasn't because I assumed in the picture, I always assumed that Valerie Jarrett was Iranian because she was born in Iran. Here it is. This is what was. So, you know, they look like, you know, they look an awful lot of like and that's what I was responding to is, wow, it's pretty incredible that her policies are very much like the policies in that movie. That's what it meant. Right.

And like I say, I racially misgendered someone, I assumed to be white. And, you know, that's all they needed. And so they were like, Roseanne says all black people look like monkeys. It was a political tweet, not a racial tweet, and they used it. And they took it totally out of context. But about two hours after I sent it, I got paranoid, and I thought, oh, my God, you should not equate Muslim Brotherhood with anyone in the Obama administration. administration, that's dangerous.

So that's what you thought was wrong with it? Yeah, so I deleted it about two hours later. And it was four hours later that ABC called me after it had been deleted and started all that stuff with me. But I was paranoid after I tweeted because I thought nothing good can come

of pointing out the direct connection between Muslim Brotherhood and the Obama administration because nobody likes that. But it is the truth and nobody visited the Obama White House more than people in the Muslim Brotherhood. And Valerie Jarrett herself, her parents published a magazine for Muslim Brotherhood and she's very, very, very involved in Muslim Brotherhood. So, you know, when everybody says things about

that organization, you know, they get censored right away. Still, they're censored right away. You're not allowed to criticize or even mention that organization. But they're very much in power in the United States on the left. And people should make themselves aware of that. Because they're not a, they are not in any way a democratic, even a Democratic Party, democratic no democracy democracy they're not even that

they are a an authoritarian elitist group of non-elected people who've seized power for themselves and they don't like the american people very much and they don't like the constitution very much and they don't like individual thinkers very much either nor do they like jews nor do they very much like Christians nor any of those ethics that the Western world was founded on. They don't like very much of that.

But they do like communism right now for a while because it suits their needs. And communism likes them because they suit each other's needs for time now as they work together for kind of the same goal a little bit. That's why you see queers for Palestine and all that kind of stuff. Because for a little while, they'll intersect, but not for very long, and then they'll go at each other. But that's how power uses power. And the American people have stayed ignorant and stayed asleep and are going to fall by that sword, I fear, if they don't wake up.

Did anyone in the middle of that, is there any hero? Maybe we didn't hear it or see it, give you the opportunity to explain what the tweet meant? No, they closed me down on everything. I said, why don't you put me on Jimmy Kimmel or the view, both of whom have done blackface, and you didn't do nothing about that, why don't you let me go on there on those two racist, you know, people have done outward, racist, offensive things, and let me explain how, and apologize for thinking this person was white or, you know, Iranian, no, I was not allowed to say anything, and I was not allowed to respond as they called me a racist over and over and over again.

And honestly, I clung tight to my faith. I'm a woman of faith and I come from a long line of people of faith in Torah and our God. And I just clung tighter and tighter. I knew that was the only thing I could do. And I clung tighter and tighter and honestly, it wasn't the And the first time things happened to me where I clung tighter and tighter. And the tighter I clung, the higher I soared and the stronger I got. And the closer I drew to the source of all intelligence and goodness.

And they can't stop me from getting better. They can't stop me from improving and getting more in touch with God and what's right. So they did me a big favor is how I look at it now. God took me out of Egypt and brought me to the promised land, which is my own podcast, my own ability to speak to people about what I consider to be the truth and the danger we're in. I never could have done that on network TV. They would have stopped me at everything.

So I feel like God took me out of Egypt and he delivered me here and I'm loving it. Are you kidding? Look who I get to talk to. And hopefully it means something to people. And I know it does. And I would suggest anybody going through anything hard like that. Cling as tight as you can to your faith and your belief in God.

And I don't think you'll be let down. I don't think you'll be disappointed. I don't think you'll find yourself at a less strong point. I think that's why we're here to get stronger and closer. and to inspire other people to do the same. And that's, I guess that's all I can figure for why we're here. Yeah. To get the news out to people that, yeah, there is something smarter and better than governments

that idiots create and perverts. There's somebody there. There's a higher intelligence that's really in charge of everything. And he just wants us to see it. He wants us to witness it and see it and speak about it. and not to cower in front of it. Heavens no, not that. We have the power to transform it

with our hands and our love for each other. And him, we can do it in a heartbeat, just like turn on a light switch. Stop thinking we can't because you're feeding somebody else, not him. Your podcast, what's the goal? What do you like doing? Who do you like interviewing?

I mean, is it political? Is it, you know, do you, you know, get into some of the things we've talked about your past? Or, you know, what is it, what does it you want to achieve? If this is the next evolution in your work, which has been dynamic all along, you've totally pushed the envelope. You've pushed in, you know, as you said, you worked in sort of the middle of darkness, but tried to bring light there. And I think you did. You had people thinking, what's the goal now? The goal now is I just want to talk to a virulent.

variety of people and hear how they create. I want to talk about how joyous and wonderful it is that God made us these creative beings who can think and fashion something new and great that can serve the common good of all humanity, even if it's just a laugh, anything, anything that can lift and is creative, and every person can do it. And I think when we tap into our creative selves, that's what God is. He's the creator and he made each of us like him in that way. When you can tap into your creativity and create something, you're not going to be bitter and mean and horrible. You're going to light the world up. And so it's a very personal choice to discover what it is about you that's unique and creative and fun and joyous because the Bible does tell us. that God mostly hears prayers that are given in joy.

He's bored with prayers that are from whiners. Well, it must be cacophonous, the amount of whining going on. Yeah, right? I told you what to do. I told you to be nice and create and cause joy. Try that for a while and then call me back, you know? And it's to lift, to be, to chase after what's divine in, us. And that's the creative urge and the desire to share and lift other people with us, to have a blast.

You know, to have joy, good joy, not at someone's expense, but just have fun. That makes the devil so mad when we have fun. He don't get any of our energy. Yeah. When we're down and mad and this and that. We're afraid. I mean, like there's so much fear, yeah. But when we're fearless and having fun and a blast and making fun, of everything. When nothing is sacred, it's kind of like everything is. It's a whole other mind thing that you've got to grow to and you've got to live through everything you're supposed

to live through and go, forget that. This is now. I got other things to do. You know, I didn't let it stop me. I've never let anything stop me. Why should I? I can write new jokes. These people, they were, you know, horrible to me. It's time to meet new people and I meet better people all the time and have more fun. I have much more fun now than I ever did before. That's God's reward to me that I hung on so tight. And I always will hang on so tight. And I do believe and know that God will always wrap his wings around me and lift me.

Because I believe it, I guess. It's always came true. It never has failed. That's me, right? It makes me happy. I believe the same thing. Yeah. I think that's what drives me people like,

How are you so brave? I was like, God, I'm just a vessel, like, because I'm not doing it. I'm just, you know, I'm trying to take the next right step. That's right. And that lasts as long as it lasts. And when my days are done, I guess I always say, I want my kids and people around to say, you know,

it's not how long we're on this planet, but every day I was here, I was passionate, I was speaking my truth, and I feel really blessed that I've had a life that I feel good about being able to be honest about what I think and what I feel and not having to speak somebody else's truth or, you know. I just like that, you know, my grandkids are funny. Yeah, that's so awkward to me.

Same thing, one of them's funny. When my kids are growing up until like I see some sarcasm, I'm not sure. As soon as they're sarcastic, you know, little pessimism, like we're good. They got it. They're going to be okay. Yeah, they're going to be okay. As long as you can laugh, you're okay.

So what's the podcast? How do we find it? Roseannebar.com. Okay. And it's everywhere so where you can see podcasts everywhere. And I'm loving it. I recently had the pleasure of interviewing RFK Jr. That was the height so far of my interviewing. And, you know, that was a genuine human being.

And I felt like it's cool when you. when you can, you know, be articulate with another articulate person who sees the large view. And I love being, talking to people who have a large view. It's very fun, very fun and exciting. Well, it's so special to get to have this opportunity to speak with you. And it was fun for me too. Thank you. Good, good, because you are. It's a large view.

you've, I mean, I know Hollywood, you fought in very dark places, and you've achieved so much. So I'm sure. I always say there was that fourth guy in that lion's den with me, always. Yeah. And I'd always talk to him, too. What the hell do you think of this? God, what the hell am I doing here? Yeah.

You'll see, he says. And I did always see. Something was wrong with me that needed fixed. A lot of times I thought, ah, they're so screwed up, but I realized, hey, something was wrong with me. Mm-hmm. and it finally got fixed. Well, maybe we'll get into some of that and off the record, which is coming up

right after this show. Yeah. Lovely to talk to you. Really lovely to talk to you too. Notice I touched you. I did notice that. I must have passed the germ the cootie test or something. I guess I didn't think you had much cooties.

Okay. Well, look, if you're wondering, we just started a brand new thing, if you are, you know, a donor, if you are supporting the work that we're doing, we want to give you a gift back, and that's going into maybe a little bit more of a different conversation,

something a little bit heavier perhaps or funnier, you'll have to check out off the record to know what I'm talking about. And I'll see you next week. And that's the wrap. The viewers have spoken and we have listened. I'm Dell Bigtree, and it's time to go off the record. This is what we couldn't talk about on the highway.

With a brand new show exclusively for our donors, I actually want to dive into a very sensitive topic. Guess we're getting right into it. With more personal questions. I'd like to bring up probably one of the most heated conversations if you don't mind that we've had. I don't mind. Germ or terrain theory. What the hell is this really about?

To get the answers you won't find anywhere else. One last question. White privilege. Telling the truth that they don't want you to hear. We're pissing nature off. Is anyone telling me the truth? No doctor wants to say that they're killing people. Yeah, but doesn't every doctor?

Doesn't every doctor want to stop killing people? You know, SNL, I'd see people, like, how does the public have no clue about it? Right. This individual. It's grotesque. It's nonsense. All of that's BS. This guy came up to me in a suit, and he said, I'm with the CIA.

You're being followed. Watch what happens when we go off the record. You are not going to want to miss this. All right. Well, that's going to be the first show available to you on Highwire Plus. We've been talking about it all day. Jeffrey Jackson investigates is right around the corner. We're just finishing that up.

And there'll be some new things. Freedom Files also coming. Documentary, some films you can see there. All just, you know, a little special gift for you because of all the brilliant support that you've given us. So looking forward to your feedback. And, you know, it's amazing to me, actually. I mean, you watch these interviews.

I mean, first of all, we're like in this cycle. We got Jim Brewer last week, this week, Roseanne Barr. I mean, just two spectacular comedians. And I will tell you the last thing I imagine that we would be getting into was a discussion about, like, God and purpose. It really wasn't my plan. And go back and watch the interview again. I don't set up for that conversation. I find it fascinating that both these individuals, as I said with Jim Brewer, there's something happening where people feel like they need to talk about this more.

Maybe we all need to talk about it. I mean, you know, it's clear that the people that are having success, the ones that we even see are under attack seem to be doing just fine. In fact, they accept it, they thrive in it, they love it, they're empowered by it. And so many to say, my God, how are you so brave? Maybe we should start listening when they answer that question. I really just want to just close out by saying that the high wire has been. an amazing experience and an amazing experiment since we started it all the way back in the beginning of 2017. We had just started our nonprofit, the informed consent action network at the end of 2016.

We started bringing lawsuits and working with Aaron Siri to uncover the lies around the vaccine program. And then suddenly we thought, well, no one in the press is going to report every time we win one of these cases. And the Court of Public Opinions, the most important part of what we're doing here. I mean, if a lawsuit wins in a forest and no one is there to hear it, what difference can it actually make? And thus, the high wire was born. So today is a very special moment for us, because it's just a slight growth to what we're doing. As I've said before, the high wire is not going to change. It's always here. But we want to be able to do more. We want to have a little bit more fun. I want to be able to ask some more personal questions on off the record.

You know, outside of just the back season, things we're talking about, what's really motivating people, what's driving them, or maybe something that you've never heard about before, that's going to be off the record. We want to do deeper dives into those questions that you're asking, like polio, which is going to be one of the first episodes coming up for Jeffrey Jackson investigates. He's going to get into lithium, things like that. When we have a guest on, we're like, oh, that's interesting information. I want to know more about that. Well, Highwire Plus is going to be where you're going to be able to sort of take the deeper dive in the things that you care about. So make today the day that you become a recurring donor so that all of that is available to you.

But if you want to just kick back and still just watch the Highwire, it's here, we're here, we're not going anywhere. We're going to keep fighting for you because that's what we do. Here's one thing is for sure. The truth, you know, always finds a way. The truth is the light. And we're trying to bring light to times it feels so dark. One of the things when I travel all over the country, when you walk up to me in an airport or a restaurant, you know, I just was at the dentist. And I had a beautiful woman come up and she just said, you have, you know, made so much sense out of things that didn't make any sense.

And where I thought there was no hope, I've tuned in the high wire, and I felt hope and I got hope. And I'm a recurring donor. I'm so proud of the work that you're doing. We feel it. It's that feeling of hope is what we're looking for. I think we're one of the only news shows you can watch where you end feeling hopeful. I don't know. Try on the other ones, but I know when I watch those other stations, I'm scared. I'm depressed. Here we want you to know you have the power. You make the change. You can share the truth with everyone you know. And as we become a bigger and bigger army of truth, the world is our oyster. So continue to share the truth. Be brave. Feel what Roseanne Barr said. Look at what she's been through. Doesn't matter.

Stand up. Feel the power of God moving through you. Feel your voice. Love your voice. Show your kids you are not afraid to speak your truth. And I'll see you next week.