The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 392: CEREAL KILLER

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

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Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time to step out onto the high wire. I think for many of us, we all have those issues that are the most important ones for us. We talk about people that are, you know, one-issue voters. for me, obviously, because I am in media, free speech is the most important issue there is. I think it should be the most important issue for every single one of us, because you can't fix any of the other issues if you can't talk about them.

That's why I think it's so terrifying that we have some relatively famous political figures that seem very comfortable talking about ending free speech in the First Amendment. Now, they're subtle about it, but I don't think it's getting very difficult to read between the lines anymore. This is a recent statement, I think, just this last week by Hillary Clinton. Take a look at this. I think it's important to indict the Russians, just as Mueller indicted a lot of Russians, who were engaged in direct election interference and boosting Trump back in 2016. But I also think there are Americans who are engaged.

in this kind of propaganda. And whether they should be civilly or even in some cases criminally charged is something that would be a better deterrence. So let's criminally charge people that share what I guess Hillary Clinton considers disinformation, misinformation, misinformation. Shockingly, she doesn't seem to be over the election results of 2016, but we won't get into that. I do want to talk about the next person, though. This is AOC that seems to say now that a lot of her friends in Congress are talking about what we're going to do about free speech. Take a look at this. You know, I do think that several members of Congress and some of my discussions have brought up media literacy because that is a part of what happened here.

And we're going to have to figure out how that. we reign in our media environment so that you can't just spew disinformation and misinformation. It's one thing to have differing opinions, but it's another thing entirely to just say things that are false. And so that's something that we're looking into. Now, of course, that video came at the heart of COVID in January of 2021. What was that disinformation, misinformation, misinformation? It happened to be the biggest subject that we cover here, the VALTH. The fact that it doesn't work, wouldn't work, wouldn't stop transmission is now causing injuries.

We know for certain that it is swelling the hearts of children more than the virus did itself, so should not be given to any kids, but still this government, AOC, and all these people are actually the purveyors of the misinformation, disinformation, and shockingly her and Congress want to figure out how they get the final say on what is true. How do we rein in media? Because if you think about it, what's really starting to piss them off is they just

off is they just wish we could go back to the days where it's just CBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, three networks. We controlled them. We had the CIA in there, and we were able to dictate everything that was being said. Now the social media is just making everything so much more difficult. People can actually communicate. They can choose whoever they want to listen to. Oh, my God, can you imagine? What our founding fathers would have thought if you were able to actually choose what information you wanted to listen to? This gets really shocking and why I am probably the most petrified is this video that has come out with John Kerry.

I believe he's in front of the World Economic Forum. This is absolutely detestable for any American, and apparently he's not alone. Take it look at this. The dislike of and anguish over social media is just growing and growing and growing. and it's part of our problem, particularly in democracies, in terms of building consensus around any issue. It's really hard to govern today. You can't, you know, there's no, the referees we used to have

to determine what's a fact and what isn't in fact that kind of been eviscerated to a certain degree. And people go and that people self-select where they go for their news or for their information. And then you just get in. into a vicious cycle. So it's really, really hard, much harder to build consensus today than at any time in the 45, 50 years I've been involved in this.

And, and, you know, there's a lot of discussion now about how you curb those entities in order to guarantee that you're going to have, you know, some accountability on facts, et cetera. But look, if people go to only one source and the source they go to is sick and, you know, has an agenda and they're putting out disinformation, our First Amendment stands as a major block

to the ability to be able to just, you know, hammer it out of existence. So what you need, what we need is to win the ground, win the right to govern by hopefully having, winning enough votes that you're free to be able to implement change. Now obviously there are some people in our country are prepared to implement change in other ways.

And that's really if democracy can survive unregulated social media. I think democracies are very challenged right now and have not proven they can move fast enough or big enough to deal with the challenges

that we are facing. And to me that is part of what this race, this election is all about. That final statement is shocking. Apparently John Kerry, what this entire race is about is coming to terms of the fact that democracy appears to not be fast enough to handle the issues of our time, meaning there must be some other form of governance that we should be using.

I guess is what John Kerry is saying, and he said things like we just don't have the referees of facts that we used to have, meaning our government does have in control of some small group of people. Now social media is out of our control. people are self-selecting the information they want to hear. I mean, this is literally like First Amendment at its core, self-selection, the ability to choose where I get my information. Here it is, the First Amendment.

In case we've forgotten, and Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. Or abridging the freedom of speech. Abridging, don't even, you don't get to touch it. You don't get to massage it or adjust it. or the press or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to position the government for a redress of grievances. Folks, we live in the United States of America, and there is leadership now that is

talking about if you get your information from someone that is sick, that has an agenda. Like, I don't know, you, John Kerry, that is trying to push climate control and take my car away and stick me in a 15-minute city and censor anyone that disagrees with you, this is literally the reason our country is what it is. There is no United States of America if we don't have complete and total freedom of speech. And this has been tested by the ugliest humans in this country that have ever been. There have been Jewish lawyers that stood up for this constitution, even when Nazis were having parades down the street, saying it simply is free speech and we can look the other way, but we must not get in the way of people expressing themselves. I mean,

we are living in a time. And when you look at what these. people complaining about. Their misinformation, Hillary Clinton hung up on Russia gate, which was mostly fabricated by her imagination. We could get into the laptop, which was true information. Hunter Biden's laptop, and we said it was a lie. So the government lied. I don't care one time if the government ever lies. You're off the, you know, you're out of the precinct of getting to decide who is telling the truth. You're out. And we've caught you way too many times. And our Founding fathers told us government's designed the lie to you. You cannot ever give them the power. This is so scary right now, folks. I really think it has to be. Look at the New Yorker. Is it time to

towards the Constitution? Some scholars say that it's to blame for our political dysfunction. Our dysfunction is what makes us beautiful. Our diversity that they seem to want to talk about when it comes to color and race. How about diversity of thought, of speech, of perspective? That is what makes this nation great. And if you take it away, we will be as bad as everyone else. Sure, John Kerry, I remember, you know, when we were looking up in Canada and they were celebrating how fast, Trudeau was saying how fast China is able to move, that dictatorship, I'm really jealous of it. Well, now John Kerry's jealous of dictatorships. Well, I'm not. I know that democracy is messy. It always has been from day one. But we get through it. We wade through it

together. And maybe we would take down the bitch wheel all with each other and actually just start to have conversations again and allow debate. And I want to say a shout out to the vice presidential debate for showing us a little bit of decorum here. The idea that, you know, J.D. Vance and Tim Walts could actually say to each other, you know, I actually agree with that point. Wasn't it refreshing? Remember what we used to be able to do that? It's time for us all to start exercising that and be really careful who we decide to put in charge of not just this country, but every one of the countries that's watching this show right now, you've got to fight for your right to free speech. It is the most important right there is. It's why it's

the First Amendment in the United States of America. And we must reject any single person in the United States of America that speaks openly about taking that right. away from us. All right. Well, there's so much to talk about. We live in incredible times. We're not short of stories. It's getting harder and harder to keep this show under seven and a half hours. So let me move forward by saying another problem in the United States of America right now that we've talked about is we seem to be really capable of taking hundreds of billions of dollars and sinking them at what appeared to be endless, useless, pointless wars that just get people killed. But one thing we can't afford to do is seem to fix problems like this.

Breaking news as Hurricane Helene gets closer to making landfall. The storm's footprint massive. You can see it from the satellite there in space. Tropical storm force winds extending up to 310 miles from the center. Parts of central and southern Appalachia are under flash flood warnings after the region got slammed with historic rainfall. Ashfields included Western North Carolina were the worst of the weather happening now, but so many people will be impacted. Hurricane Helene has moved on,

but left in its wake a trail of death and destruction. The only way to describe the damage here in Asheville is historic and catastrophic. Officials in North Carolina say they were blinded by Helene's sheer intensity. Homes swept away, restaurants and shops torn to pieces. You can see all those roads and yards covered it in mud, water, debris. The mayor there calls it apocalyptic. Homes and buildings swept away by raging floodwaters that have submerged the town. It's beyond anything I've ever seen in my lifetime.

Parts of the town not underwater completely cut off. The storm now being blamed for at least 133 deaths, 49 of those here in North Carolina, and that number is expected to go up, with as many as 600 people still missing as of this morning. There is no running water in the city, so that is showers, that is flushing toilets, that is, of course, drinking water.

Any more resources, the federal government would be giving them? No, we've given them. We have two plans to sign- amount of it, you know, they didn't ask for it yet. Nobody's going to help us. I mean, I don't know what we're going to do. Do you have any faith in the federal response here? No.

I don't know about you, and I know I'm an armchair quarterback on this. I'm not in the middle of it. I don't know what it takes to try and, you know, dig entire cities out of mud and ruin, but it just feels like every time we see this, it's shocking that a nation is as advanced as ours with all the technology, all the helicopters, all of the, you know, the manpowering. the military that we aren't able to just swoop in and get in control these situations faster. But I want to get to someone that is on the ground. We're going to be joined by my really good friend Steve Slepsvic of Strategic Response Partners.

We've gone to him before. He flies right into the center of the disaster areas. He right now is, I believe, in North Carolina. He's joined by Danil Jimenez. Steve, Danile, thank you for joining me. I just, I know that you're in the middle, Steve, of deploying, helicopters. There's a real effort right now to help people. And so I don't want to distract you for too long. But we're hearing stories of, you know, people trapped, people that are just not getting

the resources. They need water, food, medical supplies. And so what's being done to handle that situation right now from your perspective? So just to give you a quick perspective, we're here at Ground Zero at the Hickory Airport. And we got it to Tallahassee three days. before Hurricane Helene made landfall. And so right from that point, once it made it hard right and it kind of cruised up to the Carolinas, we could see that this thing actually was going to stall, make that turn over top,

and there was going to be a serious issue with flooding. So anybody who's in the first response, disaster management, anybody who's handled any type of emergency response disasters knew this was going to unfold at this level, or pretty close this level, which means they should have pulled resources from Tallahassee and all those task force should have been pushed up into North Carolina right That didn't happen. What happened on day six and going into day seven should have happened on day two.

Yeah. So I'm going to turn it over real quick to Danelle, who's our helicopter pilot. He's also the one kind of running the operations here because this has become a grassroots private individuals just showing up who have the skill set to actually make things happen. So you want to talk about what's going on in the in the EOC as far of slight command? Absolutely. We came in and we're kind of helping divert all the assets that. showed up here to where they're needed the most. We've got many civilian aircraft to include some military recently that showed up, National Guard, stuff like that. And what we're doing is we're assigning missions to help the greater number of people. The problem we're running into is a lot of these people are out of communications, right? So we don't know that they need help, right? So as we're sending civilian helicopters out there to do missions, they're also doing reconnaissance

on the flight on the way back, debriefing us so we can start kicking out more assets to that area. That's usually done. When you're flying around and there's a lot of aircraft in the air and I know even President Biden is visiting, what is air traffic control like in a situation like this? Does that get difficult? Do they, I mean, how do you organize all the, you know, planes in the air? They're flying very close, helicopters having to land in difficult areas.

So fortunately and unfortunately, when a VIP like that shows up to an area like this, They install what's called TFR, temporary flight restriction. So that kind of like grounds us for a little while until that dignitary leaves so we can get back to work. So we did deal with that yesterday. We were grounded for a little bit, but now we're back up in the air. We're doing a lot more work today. Our mission sets are being dwindled down because of all the great people that have come out to help us. And we got the Army Aviation Heritage Foundation that just showed up with the UH1 Hueys.

from Vietnam and they're going to help us move a bunch of supplies. They're heavy lift helicopters. We've got a lot of entities here that are coming just from everywhere to help us out. Now you're saying it's really more of a civilian population. Steve, is that how these things are designed to go? I mean, when, you know, it's not like this is the first natural disaster ever. We have deal with these every year, many of them, some worse than other. And I just sit here going, what is the planning? Is there a set way that these are done? Let the civilians handle it first. then we'll send in, you know, the military National Guard. Is that how this is supposed to go?

No, not at all. I mean, the military, the military, the government, the FEMA task force should have been here on day two. That didn't happen. That was a complete disaster. So what happened is the people showed up. This is no different than what you saw happen in Maui when Archie Calepa set up as EOC, right? Yeah. The call went out.

The people rose up and rose up. to the challenge and that's what's happening so America has to start seeing really what's happening and how people responding so all these independent pilots started coming together and through our network we pulled all types of other pilots in assigned our paramedics to those to those flights and sent them out there now they're doing mass evacuations now because we're going on day five day six no no food no water people running out of food three days of water that's a problem right yeah so these are some of these are elderly so I'll let Mike Savager talk a little bit about the medical side of it, but there's massive

evacuations that are being scheduled right now to move some of these elderly people out of assisted living facilities. There's looting going on. There's a lot of crime going on. There was some people that got killed yesterday, as a matter of fact, over supplies. Wow. Look at how the ports are shut down. Look at what's happening and people

are going on these panic buying situations. And then add a hurricane to it where people are cut off from those food resources and no comm. So we're going in. Everything's got sat radios on our stuff, sat phones. And even that is starting to run low on the supply chain because it's not coming in. So, you know, you need to get your family in order.

So I want to talk a little bit, let Mike share a little bit on the medical. So if you have anything on the medical side of it. Okay, very good. He was on the medical side yesterday for what we were doing out in this area. You know, Mike, we talk a lot about the health of Americans right now. So many people are on pharmaceutical drugs just due to health issues. We've got diabetes, you know, diabetes, medications, insulin, things like that. When you're rushing out of your home, when it's being wiped away by a river, I would imagine you have a lot of people right now that don't have access to the medications they need.

And the worst thing you can do is just go cold turkey off of whatever medications you're on. So how, you know, in a situation like this, how does someone like you that's involved in the medical site handle that? One of the most important things for anyone that is preparing for a disaster like this is to know exactly what you have. When you have certain medications, if you're on diuretics, if you have insulin, for any medication that you take, whether it's a cardiac drug or blood pressure drug, it's very important for you to know exactly how much of it you have and how long you can go until you need to get another dose of sent to you. One of the scariest parts about responding to disasters, especially in the middle of a situation like this, and we're talking to you guys live from an airport that has been established as the one responding units to go in and to rescue people. If someone is on a dialysis patient and now the dialysis center that they go to has been swept away in five days They're gonna be septic. That's a very real understanding that we're faced with. That's why it's really important for us in a lot of places that we've flown into There's volunteer fire departments that are creating LZs for us and the minute that we show up

We see them and they're tired. They're overworked and we're trying to establish communications with everyone. We're grateful for the start links that we've been able to distribute and Yeah, we got 500 of them out yesterday, dropped a bunch of insulin off, delivered oxygen, oxygen is running low. Medical supplies are running low. So those that have any resource to medical type stuff, just have them send a response at SRP. We'll connect them here with the medical director. Here you go right now. We're going to put this on our screen. See if you live in the area and can help, email response at SRP24.com.

They'll figure out how to get those supplies from you and get them to the people that need them. I heard rumor that a big plant or or storage, you know, wherever they make IVs, which is gonna affect hospitals all across this country, is under water. Is that true? That's true. So there's also already a shortage. And then the fact is that we as Americans, even more why we should be sourcing stuff in our own country.

Right. If the ports aren't a warning, if the disaster zones aren't a warning, we have to be self-sufficient so that we could pull from other areas and pull that in. So there's a lot of other shortages because we're getting it from other countries. And when you have multiple disasters happen at the same time, this can cripple and literally put the whole country in absolute chaos, really fast. So yeah, there's a lot of other stuff that's going on. And I'll share with you later on offline. Okay, yeah, like I said, I know you guys, you're in the middle of it.

I don't want to hold you up much longer. I do want to talk about the death numbers. I'm hearing like 150, maybe 250 that are dead, a lot missing. From your perspective, is that number going to come in low? Do you expect those numbers to rise based on what you're seeing? And we're in a critical moment here, five days out, any longer people without water without food are going to be in real, real trouble. Are they not? Yeah.

So let me share this with you. Just one county has 250 dead confirmed. So the numbers aren't at all. This was yesterday. One county is 250 dead. Yes. Wow. There's also bodybacks that are running out.

Okay, so let me put it this way. When you go back to even Hurricane I, the post-art friends and a half, the amount of bodybacks that were dropping just their choppers far exceeded the numbers on just their helicopters. So no different than sitting there at the bar with the mayor in Staten Island after Superstorm Sandy.

And then him telling me what they have in the morgue versus what was on TV and him just breaking down, going, that's not true. true. Sometimes there's also people who undocumented who won't complain those bodies. And then when you see the stuff like the numbers even with Maui, so we get into these zones, we're working with medical directors, we're working with what's going on. And my question to your viewers is, if somebody knows, tell me why consistently the numbers never match. Like what we see on the ground versus what's reported. Is there something that I'm missing? Something I don't know. But you know what?

Just notice that the numbers are to go up. And sometimes even when they get those numbers up, It's still not what actually is. So I don't know what the answer to that is. All right. I don't know what to tell you. Look, I don't want to hold you guys up any longer when this is all through. Steve, I want to get together with you. And we can talk about maybe, you know, I'm amazed that in all the years that I've been alive,

I've never seen a president say, hey, we need to be better at this. We need to get rid of red tape that's getting the way. We need to be able to drop in and move efficiently. We are modern nation. We've got computers now. We have cell phones. We've got sat phones. We need to get better at this.

Clearly we need to get better at this. This is shocking in the modern age that we still look like we're in the dark ages every time we get hit by a tornado or a hurricane. Yeah, listen, 35 years. My first response was Hurricane Andrew. I've seen these responses by multiple administrations under all difference. I was a registered Democrat turned independent for obvious reasons because command and control, a critical situation, someone has to know what they're doing.

Well, I mean, look, we'll leave it there. I have a nonprofit here. I don't want to get deep into these issues, but I hear you. I look. As you said, I've watched this through multiple administrations. I don't think I would pick aside right now except to say that we clearly suck at this in America. We need to get better. But I am so happy that there are people like you and that the citizens and the beautiful people that step up make a difference, bring their own aircrafts in to make a difference.

That's what makes America great. So maybe we need to put it back in the hands of the people and just let us handle it from here on out. Maybe that's the better way forward. Just a last minute reminder of the first responders that are showing up are incredible. Everyone's doing an exceptional, exceptional job from the top to the bottom. But the command post, the commander in chief from the federal government, that is where the breakdown is. That needs to be addressed. That needs to be looked at very closely.

And that's all I got to say for today. Del, thank you. Thank you to your listeners. All right. You guys have a give, send go, right? to donate to you specifically to your group. Here it is, folks, give sendgo.com slash SRP 24. You see the integrity there.

All volunteers, they are in there getting, you know, helping organize flights to get to people in need right now. So, you know, while our government is obviously confused, we shouldn't be. Let's do everything we can to help out. Gentlemen, thank you so much, so proud of you. I look forward to talking to more detail in the future. Thank you. God bless you guys. All right. Thank you. God bless you. Bye for now.

I mean, it's really, I don't know. I mean, it's so shocking. I do want to say this, though, right? There is a damned if you do and damned if you don't. I did see all the complaints from people, you know, why isn't Joe Biden flying down there? But then you find out when he does, they have to shut down all air movements so that no one can be saved while he's there. So you do see how leaders, I want to put that out there, just discovering that leaders do find themselves in cat, So we got to think about that. You know, if visiting means nobody can get the supplies or be evacuated, then maybe the president should wait. These are, you know, I like, I want to be well-rounded on this as I can be.

But clearly, we have had enough major disasters. And while they all scream, it's global warming or whatever it is, the truth is, they've always been here. There's going to be more in the future. Can we get better at this? Seriously. I mean, none of us could allow our companies to fail every time. we take on pressure in the business that we're in, why is our government this gets allowed to just

continuously fail us? I hope there's answers in the future. We got a great show coming up. I, you know, we've got the food babe joining us, who, Voniehari, who has just been really incredible, someone that has figured out a way to actually use her voice and make change, Not just bitch about it, but she actually makes companies change what they're doing. We're going to talk about her latest battle with Kellogg's and Fruit Loops. She's coming up in a minute, but just for this time, it's time from the Jackson Report. Who's in studio? Hey, how you do it?

There we go. I mean, I got so wrapped up in disaster conversations. I forgot that we get to do this in person. It's so good to see you, Jeffrey. Likewise. Thank you for joining me. Can we just talk about that for a second, though? I mean, honestly.

Yeah. You know, put all the politics aside because I watched George Bush flail at this. You know, I've seen Clinton's flail. I mean, everybody seems to flail, you know. And what is it? Why is it? I feel like in the military, they learn how to go into any, like it's immediate. We're under attack.

Handle it right away. Right, right. Like immediate forces. Why don't we have that for disasters? I mean, it seems like there's this balance between command and control. I mean, we don't want full. Soviet Union command and control, but it does seem like a disaster is a complex thing. There's a lot of moving parts, and obviously nothing goes as planned.

But it seems like we should be removing this red tape. At this point, we had Katrina, everything since then. And we're still dealing with this. We're having FEMA come out with headlines saying, we just, sorry, we just don't have the money for this at this point. Maybe sometime in the future, this is absolutely unacceptable. And one of the things I want to talk about is America. Americans need help in the South now.

And one of the big issues are these large corporate media institutions, these outlets, are taking their time or using their platforms to push narratives instead of giving updates and aid and trying to direct aid to this area. What am I talking about in case people missed it? Take a look at this clip. All right. Hurricane Helene made landfall Friday in Florida's Big Ben, fueled by abnormally warm water in the Gulf of Mexico. Greenpeace posted on social media that, quote, Hurricane Colleen must be a wake-up call for climate justice.

Hurricanes draw energy from that warm ocean water. And as that climate change causes sea surface temperatures to rise, the energy available for these storms increases. In fact, we estimate that the world's oceans have absorbed over nine. 90% of the excessive heat that's caused by greenhouse gas emissions. Helene intensified rapidly as it moved over super warm Gulf waters, up to 5 degrees above average. Climate Central calculates that climate change made those temperatures at least 500 times more likely. Hotter ocean fuels these storms, causes them to intensify more rapidly, causes them to get much more powerful, and a hotter atmosphere because we're living on an over-currently overheating planet. So we get these intense, intense rainfalls which cause the sorts of flooding that's happening right now. Every hurricane that now exists contains more moisture than it would have without climate change,

and that means the rainfall associated is in every case stronger than it would have been. It's happening in North Carolina and Georgia. I mean, the real term that we should be using is climate weirding, because we're going to keep seeing things like this, and it's going to be excited. if we don't get on these sustainable goals. And we're we're woefully behind schedule. There would have been a time when a tropical storm would have been heading toward North Carolina and

would have caused some rain and some damage, but not apocalyptic destruction. Science and data. What a wonderful thing. I'm not sure this is the time for a lecture on climate change. Yeah, I mean, but the U.S. When you talk about agenda, right? This is the moment to instill fear. Right. And that's the idea. And that's the idea, it's fear.

And we're talking about something that I'm sorry the science isn't settled. We're talking about climate change. And you know the IPCC since the 1990s, they decided to choose human beings and their kind of output of carbon as the main driver of climate change. And this is still up for contention. And the fear piece, we have Bjorn Lumberg. He's a best-selling author, but he was also the former director of the Danish government's Environmental Assessment Institute in Copenhagen. And he wrote in the New York Post this article just recently, and it's titled Shrinking Islands Vanishing Polar Bears, the climate scare stories that turn out to be false. So we're seeing this narrative again.

And he writes, looking back on more than 20 years of climate agitation, two themes emerge. A stubborn unwillingness by campaigners to acknowledge any inconvenient science and ever-shifting favorite stories, first elevated, then dropped by the wayside. The one constant, a fixation on scaring the public, which has in turn shaped bad climate policy. And this is something obviously we're reporting on quite a bit, but you don't have to go to current times. We can go all the way back to 2007 with one of the climate luminaries, we're told Al Gore, and he was making these predictions at that point. Take a look at this. What he had to say back then? The earth has a fever, and the fever is rising. The experts have told us it is not a passing affliction that will heal by itself. We asked for a second opinion, and a third, and a fourth.

And the consistent conclusion restated with increasing distress is that something basic is wrong. We are what is wrong, and we must make it right. Last September 21st, as the northern hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented alarm that the North Polar Ice Cap is in their work. falling off a cliff. One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week warns it could happen in as little as seven years. Seven years from now. It's now 17 years from then. Right. Right. So and by the way, I

I made everyone I knew, watched it, inconvenient truth. I was definitely a part of the whole, the world is burning up. This is a crisis. I feel like I was the first generation involved in that. And I just, I still go to the beach. You know, I saw a picture of Plymouth Rock, and they're showing where the water was like 100 years ago, and it's exactly in the same place.

The oceans do not appear to be getting deeper. The North Pole doesn't look like it's disappeared. polar bears seem to be making their way back into existence as far as I can tell. And the Great Barrier Reef is plentiful with coral as it's been in, I think, what, 20 to 50 years? So things are regenerating. Not to say that human beings, look, I'm all about, like, let's watch our footprint on this planet. Yeah. But this hysteria is just not adding up.

Right. And look, it was a compelling documentary at the time. Yeah. More information has come out. More debate has happened. More people have come in with more information. more scientists have a bigger voice now, bigger platforms. And this has changed.

It's all changed now. So that idea, those ideologies, those scare tactics, what really is clear to me is when the water recedes, the scare tactics that were used and the gravity of which they said the Earth will end. And so he's talking about the Arctic sea ice. So that's northern. And we have, you know, that's known actually to be some of the thicker sea ice. Antarctic is usually known to be thinner. But we have some studies here. This is in nature looking at the Antarctic.

ISIS in the southern. And they say this. The Antarctic continent has not warmed in the last seven decades despite a monotonic increase in the atmospheric concentration of greenhouse gases. And so that we could... So they can register greenhouse gases over Antarctica and it's not changing the temperature there at all. Right, right. And people may say, well, Al Gore said, Arctic, this is Antarctic. Well, we can look at Greenland's ice core data and Greenland is a part of it. It's an Arctic country. And this is a chart looking at it. that right now. And you can see, and this goes back 5,000 years. So we have

the Minotan warming. We have the dark ages there, the Roman warming. And you can look at that far right side. You see this little red circle. That's the last hundred years to present. So you could say we have some warming. Sure. Sure.

These charred, you keep bringing these in. And to me, I just feel like it's like mic drop. Like might drop. Like, we have seen this, the world before. human beings were here. So much warmer. So what was warming it, you know, when it wasn't human beings? I remember Thomas Massey asked John Kerry that really great question, but to see where the alarm is, it's in this rise that's all happening inside the 100 years. But in the perspective

of the Mount Everest of the, you know, where we'd been before. Yeah. It's just, it just seems like they're riding on the back of what they know it'd be natural cycles, but trying to claim their own dominion over it. It's literally, I think, in some ways, that's where people say good and evil. This is where it's like you actually are trying to play God. It's like a magic trick. You know where it's going anyway, but no, we did it because we took control over the earth. It's ridiculous. And look, there's other dynamics that are at play here that we don't fully understand. Scientists don't fully understand. Let's talk about the sun, not just the heat from the sun, the magnetic effects from the sun, the cycles of Earth, as we're seeing in a lot of these charge,

and even the magnetosphere surrounding the planet, these are all impacting the climate on this planet, not just people breathing. So this has got to be really looked at in a bigger, more adult way, I think. But let's look at the fear piece, because that's really what I want to talk to you about today, is you have this statement from President Biden. This was last year, And he said, climate change is, it poses a greater threat than nuclear war. Well, clearly the moment we find ourselves in, I think he obviously believes that that's true because it looks to be like we're a lot closer to nuclear war than being ended by climate change at the moment. Exactly, exactly.

And so when the public sees this from a leader and it's echoed through major media, this emergency state, this heightened emergency state with maximum fuel. and the censoring of dissenting opinions, this gets really dangerous. So he says it's more dangerous than war. Let's talk about wars. Let's talk about one of the last major wars the U.S. was involved, and that was Iraq. And that was Saddam Hussein. We overthrew Saddam Hussein because allegedly he had something to do with 9-11,

and it turned out he really didn't. But let's look at Madeline Albright at that time, who was on the media. She was on 60 minutes. And listen to what she had to say. Secretary of State, by the way. Take a look. Madeline Albright, the United States representative at the U.N., He says the U.S. is trying to prevent Saddam Hussein from making and dropping a nuclear bomb or chemical weapons on other countries.

And she says he's still lying about his weapons programs. We have heard that a half a million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it? I think this is a very hard choice. but the price, we think the price is worth it. It is a moral question, but the moral question is even a larger one. Don't we owe to the American people and to the American military

and to the other countries in the region that this man not be a threat? I don't know where you're going with this, but I forgot. 500,000 children, Madeline Albright does not blink. She does not say that's an inaccurate number. She says, we do think that this is worth the price. Yeah, and simply what I'm saying is what gets lost in the mix in this frenzy is humanity, right, morality. Yeah.

Who is she? I didn't, I wasn't in on that conversation. How is she deciding that for the American people? And so let's bring this down to something our audience is, you know, has a big interest in, which is health. And just recently, we have Michael Conradon. He was the attorney that has now won against the EPA. Yeah, but water fluoridation. This is working with Aaron Serian Glimstad now, so he's on our team.

Absolutely. So psyched about that. One of the biggest public health victories when it comes to something outside of vaccination that we've really seen in our lifetime. And so during that time, he deposed a woman named Dr. Lewis, pediatrician, also part of the American and Pediatrics oral health division at the time she was being deposed. Listen to what she had to say and see if you can follow this line from Madeline Albright to this deposition. Take a listen. At this point in time, you are not prepared to say that you would withdraw your support of water floor. even if the evidence convinced you that it's reducing the IQ by five points in 5 to 10% of the population.

Objection, form, and scope. You still would support water fluoridation at that time. Same objections. Well, again, because that's not the scope of what I was asked to look at. It's difficult for me to answer the question, but there are circumstances where I can imagine that that would be an appropriate. that would be an appropriate trade-off. Okay, well, you're saying there are circumstances where I can't imagine. I'm asking you, based on those facts I've given you, would you or would you not withdraw

your support for water fluoridation? Same objections. I would not withdraw my support of community water fluoridation. Okay. That's an amazing moment. I mean, by the way, just let's take, let's take and breathe in what we just said. I've shown you the evidence. It is now clear, which is what we're.

We know he just won the case on that the fluoridation in water is affecting 5 to 10% of our kids and reducing their IQ levels by at least 5%. Are you saying that's a tradeoff so that we have stronger teeth? I mean, you didn't make that part, but stronger teeth. She's like, absolutely, I believe that that is. Which proves, like clearly we would rather be stupid in America than ugly. Yeah, we don't want to go back to. No more wooden teeth. Yeah, no more wooden teeth.

We're not going back to what we're not going back. That's out. I mean, it's just unbelievable. You're right, though. Like, in your mind, if you're raised to believe there's a crisis of cavities, and then this is the solution, then you'll just, and this is the problem with people. We're just, like, whatever we're focused on, I don't care. Don't tell me about what's happening over here.

One of the greatest public health accomplishments in modern day, Florida, Asian. We can't ever go against that, no matter what we see, no matter what evidence tells us. And this is what happens when this emergency thing gets. stamped into people and they're in positions of power. Yeah. You see this happening. And so this, where we're going on this, we're going down this ride right now. I'm taking people down this ride right now. So what are we talking about? We're getting flavors of the old eugenics. You're getting people talking about the human life really isn't that important when it comes to these bigger social issues. Right.

And you know, we've talked about you and I talked about Francis Gault and the father of eugenics, Thomas Malthus, and where it really was born. And a lot of people think, well, that was so long ago. This isn't happening. But in 2009, There was a headline that came out. This is mainstream media. And I think a lot of people may have missed it. And it was talking about a billionaires club. And it says, billionaire club in bid to curb overpopulation.

Now, it says in the article, it was a secretive meeting. And it goes on to say, who's in this club? Yeah. It was described as the good club. Possibly can't do anything wrong. By one insider, it included David Rockefeller Jr., the patriarch of America's wealthiest dynasty, Warren Buffett and George Soros, the financiers, Michael Bloomberg, the mayor of New York, and the media mogul's Ted Turner and Oprah Winfrey.

One of the guests said there was, quote, nothing as crude as a vote, but a consensus emerged that they would back a strategy, don't say what strategy, in which population growth would be tackled as a potentially disastrous environmental, social, and industrial threat. Now, right after that, that same year,

you saw the media spin machine go into play. You saw op-eds being written with that flavor of ideology, and here we are again. So in 2009, we have The Guardian writes this article, an uncomfortable truth, it says, as the planet's resources dwindle, a debate on population control is needed more than ever. And this is what it says. Some disability groups strongly object to any discussion about population limits, fearing that it disguises an insidious prejudice against those with disabilities.

Indeed, any consideration of what are called lifeboat ethics, who would have to be thrown overboard first, uncomfortably reminds us that in extremely hard situations, some become superfluous. It's horribly uncomfortable to ask, it says, even to think how many seriously disabled are very old people with expensive support needs any society can carry. But any one of us can become frail, though,

disabled, unproductive, and in need of more than we can contribute. Having too many of us in this position becomes a socioeconomic problem. To think in this vein is not disableism or ageism, but necessary worst-case planning. Wow. And I mean, where did Hitler start, right? Right. And in firm, you started with the handicap, the crippled, you know.

Exactly. And I'm bringing this up because in this environment, when the media, when there is an immediate present danger of a disaster in our south in North Carolina, and the media decides to talk about human-made global warming and what people are doing to the planet and you get these conversations that are backed by the media, this becomes very dangerous. And now, I want to move into this conversation. We've been talking about how much it costs to keep people alive when they're at the end of life. But what about the conversation about how much money we would save if we ended people's lives?

Wow. And what I'm talking about there is a medically assisted suicide. And this is a phenomenon that really became supercharged in the Netherlands and Belgium in the early 2000s. Not too much fanfare. It really didn't become that popular. but it really became mainstreamed when Canada did it. And Canada did something, a couple things really different. And they had what was called made.

That was the acronym. And we can look at the bill here. And I want to break this down. It's medical assistance in dying. What they did was they enshrined that in their charter of rights, which is kind of like their version of what we know as a constitution here. And they had two tracks. One track, which a lot of people could understand.

The compassionate of us could say, well, the first track is, if you're in a position where a doctor have given you a prognosis, you're going to be dying of a terminal illness in six months, this is something you can sign up for. But they added a second track, and this is where it becomes problematic. And I'll even read from this. The second track says the request can be made to made by a person whose natural death is not reasonably foreseeable. That opens the door to a lot of things, Dell. So we're talking about conditions that are just uncomfortable. We're talking about disabilities.

I mean, the sky's the limit here. And as soon as this was passed, you saw headlines talking about the bureaucratic aspect of it, the costs. And this is one of them right here. Medically assisted deaths could save millions in health care spending report. And think about that. Doctors put persuasive pressure on their patients all the time for vaccinations, for medications. But what about for utility? What about for a greater social good?

I mean, are we seeing this? It doesn't take long before we started seeing this. Here's some of the headlines that have come out of Canada recently. Paralympian claims Canada offered to euthanize her when she asked for a stair lift. Another one, Ontario Mother paralyzed after COVID boosters, refuses two offers of maid. And now we have, just last week in the Toronto Sun, we have disability groups have now banded together and pushed a legal challenge to remove this from the Charter of Rights. It's Toronto's son. Compassion or a death sentence is the op-ed.

There's a coalition of groups representing people with disabilities, and it says this. A law, quote, a law that allows people with disabilities to access state-funded death and circumstances where they cannot access state-funded support they need to make their suffering. Tolerable is grossly disproportionate. The group claimed in its filings against the federal government and the Ontario Supreme Court. So this is the slippery slope and it's sliding. This is the moral line. I mean, when you think of this concept in a socialized medical system, right?

I mean, we've heard of the death panels, which, you know, you have to be honest. If everybody's money is in something, at some point you say, can we afford, how many people can be on a medication that costs, you know, $100,000 a year or whatever? Right. They make those decisions. How old are they? Does this make sense? Because sending an elderly person to surgery for cancer when they're 88 years old. I mean, these are the decisions that, you know, a socialized system makes. loaded, it doesn't matter. You've got your, you know, you go and get what you want. But when we're all put in the same system, what happens if this ends up being the case? Well, what is the value of this? We saw this during COVID. This do not resuscitate orders that

has been spoken about, you know, all over so many interviews that we've done of elderly, of minorities, Nicole Syrotech, the nurse that was saying, I'm in hospitals, are mostly black people, and they're just putting, do not resuscitate on them. And, you know, we just, and we're venting them, giving them rem, just apparently killing them, you know, and not reviving them. And you have to ask yourself, when you watch, you know, Cuomo in New York, you make sick people go into old folks' homes, and you and I've talked about this in private. I mean, this did seem to wipe out, you know, worldwide the pension Social Security class. Like the group of all these countries and states that are going bankrupt because they basically

stole from the pensions and Social Security funds of people, they're not going to be able to pay for them. Suddenly, all of a sudden, a disease comes that if we put it, do not resuscitate, all these people will stick them on oxygen, stigma on remdesivir, they die. I don't know. I mean, it's a big conspiracy theory, but it is weird, right? It's something we should at least be allowed to investigate. Absolutely, yeah. And you want to talk about the disability class, that this medically assisted suicide has been used for people with autism, just for the simple fact that they have autism. And the do not resuscitate orders for kids with Down syndrome during COVID. And in fact, there is a woman, Charlotte Fine. She was at the UN's Council on Human Rights,

and she gave this testimony just a handful of years ago. Take a listen. The future of Down syndrome is in grave danger. The government's health and health ministers are keen to get with us. Some countries like the Netherlands have put a price tag on our heads. They think the world will be better about people like me. We have made so much progress in the past 60 years. We have gone from being left in hospitals after birth to being raised at home by families who love us. We have gone from being shut into special schools.

to being in major education. Some of us are even going on to university. So why are we in such danger of being made at stake today? Because Hugueness is becoming a feeling to admire. A perfect baby, a perfect family, a perfect society are now possible. But are they really? No, of course they aren't. There is no such thing as perfection.

You can try to kill off everyone with Down syndrome by using abortion, but you won't be any closer to a perfect society. You would just be closer to a cruel, heartless one, in my opinion. The only way to change society's view of us is to be part. of our community to go to the same schools as other children to not be hidden away like we were in the past that's some of the most powerful and courageous testimony i've ever seen yeah you know it reminds me of that dystopian movie and novel logan's run when you're talking about this perfect society yeah this is this this this is this this mouththusian society that's set up with with with the

what they see as a perfect balance between people and resources and government sanctioned. You have to be, you have to basically end your life. You have to ascend at 21. And when you have to look as well. Remember that as a kid, right? Yeah. The runners, the runners that would run away from because once they hit 21, they would all gather around in a circle for a ritual where they would be restored and they'd all cheer about being

restored because their hand is blinking and their time is up. And then, of course, the leads, who I think were the trackers at first, you know, they were where like arresting people started going, wait a minute. Yeah, yeah. I think they're actually killing us. I think that we could probably live beyond 21, right? That thought occurs. And that's symbolic too, because it's the people within the system

that are seeing the full fruits of the system that go, wait a minute. This is really ugly. This is not what we're telling the public what's happening behind the scenes is a whole different thing. And this is where the power comes from these people working within these systems. It just hit me right now. And in every movie like that, you're arrested if you speak out against the system. and how I started this show, with all the technology that we're looking at, where you're going with this conversation, you know, the issues at hand, whether it's AI or whatever it is, of all the times for our government to say,

we're going to, we're going to have to be deciding what is true information and not true information, be able to arrest you if you're not speaking the truth, but just clearly, obviously, just the ruling classes, truth. I mean, it really is horrifying. I mean, just really just go to the science fiction area. I mean, just any book, grab it. And just go, oh, my God, it's happening. And from that time, we have people like George Bernard Shaw, who's one of the prominent figures in eugenics in England. And as we know, as history shows,

the England eugenics movement came over to the United States and really it got stamped into law. We scamped into the medical system. And from that, you know, we saw it go into Nazi Germany. But here's George Bernard Shaw. Just simply stating this. We played this in the show before, but it bears repeating because how far have we moved from this

statement, take a look. Yeah. I object to all punishment whatsoever. I don't want to punish anybody. But there are an extraordinary number of people whom I want to kill. Not in any unkind or personal spirit, but it must be evident to all of you. You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this word, who are more trouble than they are worth. And I think it would be a good thing to make everybody.

make everybody come before a properly appointed board, just as he might come before the income tax commissioners, and say every five years or every seven years, just put him there and say, sir or madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can't justify your existence, if you're not pulling your weight in the social boat, if you're not producing as much as you consume,

or perhaps a little more, Then, clearly, we cannot use the big organization of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive because your life does not benefit us and it can't be a very much use. Of course, he went on to have ideas about perhaps a gas, a friendly gas, it was enjoyable. He was serious about this stuff. This is a whole society. Serious about this stuff. And we grew up, I'm amazed that we grew up in schools, that those were, required reading. I mean, that's the author of Pygmalion, which ends up being, you know,

my fair lady, pretty woman's idea that you take the poor, ugly girl, but if you give her money and, you know, teach her, she can, you know, become an elitist. Just that idea of upbringing. But can you imagine, you imagine, of all the court cases to go to every five to seven years, you have to go defend your existence? Yeah. That'd be a nerve-wracking, that'd be a nerve-wracking case. They're deadly serious. He's not just pontificating. I mean, this is. took root in America and they sterilized thousands of people. And they did that with disabled people, poor people as well. Of course, Planned Parenthood. I know Martin Sanger came out of that. It comes out of this entire group of people. Just like, let's give the poor a way to eradicate their

children so that they don't bring society down. Right. You have to account for your existence in society. Well, that will never happen again, right? Well, let's go back to how we started this conversation. We have the climate narrative, let's say, fear, end of the world if we don't change this. It's human cause. It's your fault. Here's the headlines. Not from 2007 when Al Gore was talking. From this year, from several months, this last several months.

Take a look at this. Want to fight climate change? Have fewer children. Here's another one. How many children should couples have given ongoing climate change? It says, given that the phenomenon known as climate change is upon us, the seemingly private decision of couples about how many children to have is in fact no longer private. And this decision has clear and negative environmental effects for both present and future generations that need to be accounted for.

It's like a bait and switch. I see. It's just we're going to move society functioning well with the climate narrative. But what's missed here too with this whole medically assisted suicide is the drug companies are opportunistic as we've seen. And it appears they're setting up kind of a cottage industry, a really dark cottage industry here. This was in The Guardian, and it says, Republicans demand answers for Pfizer links to Canada's euthanasia lobby. Lawmakers demand drug maker reveal if U.S. taxpayer funds, ready for this? If you don't hate Pfizer enough, already.

Just in case. We're holding out a little warm spot inside yourself from Pfizer. Let's just, Jeffrey, you're going to snuff out everything you have left for Pfizer. How do they say it? If you're not hating Pfizer enough, this is a reason why you should hate them more. So, you know, they were given cash during the COVID response by our government. So they're being accounted for. How did you use that cash?

Because they were lobbying, part of the lobbying group to get this bill in Canada passed. So it says in here, these lawmakers, they want to know whether Pfizer has a financial interest. The company makes drugs used to euthanize patients, including cystotricuroman, Bicillate, diazepan, fentanyl, medazalam, says the letter, the lawmakers ask if Pfizer is trying to increase market demand for its products. Your company is dismantling public trust in our nation's health system by supporting an organization that aims to take the lives as young children, the letter says. And this is not just happening in Canada, in the Netherlands, in Belgium.

We have 10 U.S. states, including Washington, D.C., that have medically assisted suicide that are moving forward. We have bills that are moving forward in this legislative session that are moving towards the United States. The UK long has resisted this, is now coming to their shores. This is an opinion piece that was written. Starmer, who's the PM there, Starmer Socialist Britain is about to take a morbid turn. The UK's broken welfare state will turn personal tragedy into a Canadian-style national catastrophe. And he argues here, he said, while the case for legalization is compelling, there's that compassion piece,

I hesitate to embrace it. I worry that it would soon be grievously abused as a result of our pathologically broken welfare state. I fear the safeguards won't last. I'm terrified of the cultural impact of eliminating one of the last taboos, emphasizing the sanctity of life at a time when all other traditional restraints are dissolving, of racing down a slippery slope towards institutionalized, scenicide of human life becoming a fiscal matter to be treated as a cost. We're not just talking about a slippery slope here.

We're talking about a moral line. a cavern that if we cross this on, on, on at scale, this becomes extremely detrimental for our society. It's really, really shocking. Again, all of this being set out in the open now. I mean, I think that like, you know, we're going after your First Amendment. We believe we need to cull the herd, if you will. We're going to hold back on, you know, on the amount of children that you can have.

We're moments away for you'll be shamed for walking on the street with three children or four children. Like, how dare you do that? the planet. I see it in the young people. Some of my own family and friends, college students are coming out saying, I don't want to have babies. You know, college students tying their tubes, doing things just like, it's just not, I'm saving the planet. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Meanwhile, the actual cases you well know is fertility is dropping. We do not have a replacement society coming because our birth rates are far below where they should be. So once again, Once again, I mean, we could do this all day.

We do it every week on the high wire as point out how the government is actually lying to us. They're saying we're overpopulated, but China is terrified about the crash that they're involved. The Japan is terrified because they're not having a replacement, you know, childbirth rate. So in other countries, they know the crisis is actually depopulation, not overpopulation. Yeah, we are being sold a totally different story here. So incredible reporting. And I love how you tie that all together. It really is, it's amazing how comfortable they are with death.

Just accepting death of human beings and we're just numbers clearly to a lot of this system. Exactly. You know, one of the things we're launching this week, because I know we're working on your Jeffrey Jackson investigates. We're really looking forward to these deep dive episodes, but this week we're launching some brand new episodes for Highwire Plus, which is the Freedom files that we got a freedom pass. I did several great interviews, but you did a bunch of interviews there, which is really interesting. I did about, I think, 14 or 15. But what was cool about that is, I mean, we talked, the length of what we talked, school choice. I mean, in the wake of COVID, this rush to homeschooling. We talked to experts who are just talking about this expansion

of homeschooling. We talked about the importance of the family and fatherhood, even talked about First Amendment, Second Amendment. I mean, this was, you know, someone of a libertarian-leaning conference. So, I mean, the conversation were so robust on that. But it's basically, we can't take for granted the freedoms we have here in America, although sometimes not perfect. There's some of the best in the world. And it was a celebration of that. It was also looking at these high water marks of what do we have. How can we build on those things? And in my opinion, some of the best experts in the world, I had the privilege to sit down and talk to. So super cool. I hope everyone takes a look at it. All right. Well, everybody, the freedom.

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I want to just make, you know, silly movies. waking up to realize that the solutions they need for their family and their children will never come from the Republican and Democratic parties. I live in the center of tyranny, right? Whatever happens in New York State, in New York City is going to go someplace else. That's why I keep fighting. The evidence is overwhelming that they were playing with exactly the right kind of virus, doing exactly the right kind of experiments at exactly the right time that came from exactly

the right place. That's pretty strange. Right. I don't think it occurred to any of us that they would take measures like that. like they did and absolutely decimate people's lives and you're a racist if you ask the question. Look at the fact that your schools don't give a hoot about the education of your child. If you look over all of these different social revolutions, they were always using incendiary images and radical rhetoric to jar people. When I conceive of like the idea of liberty, I think

of personal freedom, your right to do whatever you want, but balanced with personal responsibility. We find people who are being abused by their local governments. We rally the public around their causes and we put public pressure on the officials that are doing this harm until they back off and do the right thing. Some people learn from the lockdowns that just because government says do it, we shouldn't always do it. I'm happy about that. This is the most special country which gives it the potential for greatness because we have freedoms that don't exist anywhere else in the world.

We should never take those for granted. And I'm going to say this on your country, network, which is not going to make me popular, I used to think that you guys were cranks, but geez, was I wrong? Like, I should have taken a more critical eye. You can't stand on the sidelines and seeing injustice and seeing a very noticeable erosion of individual freedom. So we need to admit that we've been manipulated deeply and intensely. Then we have to wake up from that manipulation, become resilient against it. It will continue to get worse until people realize that we need to demand the same respect from politicians and bureaucrats that we do from one another outside of government.

Freedom Files Las Vegas, our newest series on Highwire Plus exclusively for monthly donors. What a pleasure. We should record this now. If I had a penny for everyone that came up to me and said, I used to think that you were cranks and boy, was I wrong. Some just incredible interviews that are going to be available on Highwire Plus. Of course, this is our way to give back to you and to really thank those of you that make this happen. But I want to say, you know, we live in such a critical time. There are a few great voices out there. The High Wire is not the only one.

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Would love your thoughts on how that's working out for you. For everybody that joined recently, we're getting just great reviews from all of you. All right. I know I just actually said. I think we're one of the only, you know, news institutions that actually does something about it. But actually my next guest, I think, falls exactly into that category. It's really easy to bitch about the problems of the world and point out how, you know, it's all a disaster and how you do it better if you had a chance.

but it actually takes some ingenuity to figure out how to have a voice to inspire people to want to make a difference, but then figuring out how do you talk to the corporations you're trying to change instead of just insulting them and putting them on the defense is the way to actually just convince them they'd be better off making the change. That is what makes this next guest really one of a kind. Of course, I'm talking about Vanie Harri, the food babe. You probably know who she is, but if you don't, take a look at this. We have my good friend, Bonnie Hari in the house. She's the food babe, Vanie Harry. Bonnie Hari, known as the Food Babe.

The food babe herself, Bonnie Harri is here. Here's Vonny Harry, the Food Bays. Bonnie Hary joins me now to talk about her effort. She calls herself Food Babe. She's an activist blogger who's blowing the whistle on a major food chain. I grew up like most people on the standard American diet, eating all of the junk food, all the processed foods, all the fast food. And it really affected my health.

When I started to clean up my diet, all of my ailments, all of my health ailments vanished. I started Food Babe out of passion of telling the people around me what's really in their food. And they wanted to know my friends and my family wanted to know what I did to transform my health. I wrote a blog post called Chick-fil-A or Chemical Filet, and it got so viral that I think Chick-fil-A took no. And shortly thereafter, Chick-fil-A reached out to me and invited me to their headquarters to talk about these ingredients and see where the consumers' heads were

as far as improvements they could make. Back in 2012, I did a thorough investigation of subway ingredients because I wanted to really know if we were eating fresh, and what I found out was horrifying. Kraft has not responded to any of my emails. I've even tweeted to their executives. I've left them voicemails.

And all I want to do is sit down and talk with them, talk with them and I'm hoping being at their front door at least they can do is let me in. I hope to meet with someone from Kraft today to discuss removing these controversial dyes for mac and cheese products. Well when the own FDA admits publicly that they're not capable of regulating the chemicals that have been added to our food supply, that they don't even know the amount the American people are consuming, it's not a regulation or an agency that we can trust. The FDA is asleep at the wheel and the food companies are using the lack of regulation to their advantage. But now there's a significant wave of public awareness

spreading about this corruption and more people are asking for change. We deserve the same safer ingredients other countries get. We cannot allow our own American companies to treat us this way anymore. We have had enough. It's unethical and it needs to stop. Thank you very much. She's a New York Times bestseller. She's also an absolute warrior. It's my honor and pleasure to be joined me, Vani. Bonnie, you know, first of all, what you do is amazing, but most importantly, your success at really moving companies in the right direction. That takes a special type of energy. But before we really get into that, what got you started in the this sort of food crisis that's happening in America? It was my own health.

For most of my life, Dell, I had been walking around like a zombie. I was on nine prescription drugs by my early 20s. I had two different surgeries. I hit rock bottom. And it was recovering from an appendectomy that finally woke me up. The doctors all around me told me, you know, you don't need your appendix. This is just an extra organ. It's something you don't need.

It's easy to take. out. I mean, these were the things I've been told in the operating room when it was about to burst. And something just didn't make sense. Like, how does an organ just suddenly fail you in your body in your 20s? And why do you have an organ that you don't need? Like, things just weren't making sense to me. And I started to use my own common sense and my own research ability that I learned in high school where I was a top tiered debater. I was recruited to go to college and debate. I was number one in state three years in a row. And back then we didn't have Googles. We actually actually had to go to library research, check out huge journals and books and look through

microfiche. And I used the same skills to investigate my health. And I found out actually your appendix is actually a useful organ. It's populate your cut with good bacteria. And when it becomes inflamed, it's because your body has become inflamed by the food that you have been eating. And when I figured that out, every light bulb in my head went off. And I started to just learn as much as I could about the food industry, what I'd been eating, all the chemical labels that were on the back of the packages of my favorite foods, including all the different fast food that I relied on thinking it was healthier than the mainstream fast food. And I started to tell people around me the truth about what I was finding out.

And when I was having these everyday conversations with coworkers, with friends and family, they were shocked. They couldn't believe the stuff that they were hearing. and they begged me to start a blog, and that's when Food Babe was born. I wanted to call it eat healthy, live forever.com, and my husband, who's the technique in the family, thought that was a terrible name, and nobody would remember it. And he found Food Babe, $10 on auction a few minutes later, registered the name, and I hid really behind that name for a year and a half before I finally quit my day job.

I was working as a consultant for C-level executive. at big banks. So I've worked at all the big banks, working at these like high-level jobs, doing this really important work. But for some reason, I found myself at work daydreaming about the next blog post I wanted to read or to write rather. And the next company I wanted to investigate, especially after food companies started to respond to my writings because I started to have a start, you know, the people started reading the blog in a way that I, you know, the people started reading the blog in a way that I never thought was possible. I really thought it was just going to be like my mom, my couple friends.

I didn't know it was going to grow into this movement of people that not only care about their own health, but they cared enough to actually share the information with other people and then demand change from these companies. It's really amazing because, like I said, a lot of journalists, bloggers, writers sort of ostracize industry, but it doesn't really go anywhere. What is it, what, what's sort of your secret sauce? Because even we're going to get into your, you know, your, your newest battle. But one of the things you were saying to me is I just, I don't want to make them angry, Del.

I'm not, I want them to let me in the door, which is something I haven't heard from a lot of people. So how is it you do that? Like how do you, how should we see? Because I think we're so used to seeing everything is our enemy. Do you look at these giant corporations you're up against as your enemy? Or how do you picture it so that you can. do this work? I really try to let companies know that, first of all, the public will rally behind them.

They will celebrate these changes, especially when you look at what's happening in the food supply, where we have American companies selling one set of ingredients here and another one overseas. The one overseas has safer, better ingredients, and the one here in the United States has more toxic ingredients. And these are for the exact same products that they're selling. These aren't like new versions of the product or new product inventions. This is like fruit loops here and fruit loops over there. And it's really disheartening when you see this black and white ingredient label and you notice the differences in how an American company can choose to serve their own American citizens less safe ingredients. In Europe, about 20 years ago, they started requiring a warning label on products

that says may cause adverse effects on activity and attention in children when a manufacturer used an artificial dye. These companies didn't want to put the warning label on their products, so they voluntarily removed all of the petroleum artificial food dyes that are linked to hyperactivity children, autoimmune disorders, allergens, they are linked to cancer in rat studies. So they removed all of that and chose to use real ingredients like paprika, turmeric, carrot juice, watermelon juice, blueberry juice. And they know that their product causes harm because they voluntarily removed those chemicals. So they're liable for this information.

They know they've been hurting American children for 20 years. now since they found this information out in the South Hampton study that was so groundbreaking in Europe and they choose to keep doing this and I feel like everyone should say that they've had enough. I mean, the fact that we allow our own American companies to do this to us is insane. And anybody trying to argue this, I don't see an argument on the other side. They already do it. They already have the formulations. They don't have to reinvent the wheel.

It's not like we're asking them to do something hard. This is literally just serving us the same ingredients they serve other countries. I mean, fruit loops sold in Europe, in Australia, in Canada, in India even, have better ingredients than their own American children. Well, we have you. I remember we're at the Senator Ron Johnson hearings. I think it's just two weeks ago now. You made that point. I believe we've got that on tape.

So let's take a look at this. This box of fruit loops is from Canada. It's colored naturally with watermelon, blueberry, and carrot juice. This is the U.S. version. It contains four different artificial food dyes with the preservative B.HT, which is an endocrine disrupting chemical linked in cancer to cancer. Consumption of artificial food dyes has increased by 500 percent in the last 50 years, and children are the biggest consumers. 43% of products marketed towards children in the grocery store contain artificial dyes. Food companies have found in focus groups, children will eat more of their product with an artificial dye because it's more attractive and appealing. You know, I had a kid I was working with. He was mentoring him on a video team that I was using for a production company, and I would watch him drink like six red red,

He would do a day and drink double shots of espresso. And he was always taking Ridland, you know, and I said, you know, I'm curious when your parents took you to the doctor from assuming having ADD or something, did the doctor ask you about your diet or does anyone know that you drink what appears to be about four and a half gallons of caffeine every day? He's like, no, no, no one asked me. And I would, and I think now at the work you're doing, how many kids were putting on attention deficit drugs? You know, with boys, it seems to be an attention deficit problem with girls. Their issues seems to be more depression issues. They're on drugs. We're, you know, at that hearing, we're talking about a drugged society.

I mean, I think one in four kids is leaving elementary school on a drug. They will be on the rest of the life. and most of it's for things that we could remedy. As you're pointing out, it's well known. These chemical dyes and preservatives cause attention deficit problems. And instead of a doctor, I mean, forget about, you know, Kellogg's or Nabisco or any of these companies' craft that you've gone up against. These doctors, why don't they ask, why do you tell me about your diet? What are you feeding your child every day?

How do they start their day? Are they starting it with oatmeal or are they starting it with fruit? loops just seems so obvious. And this is something that was so beautiful in that Senate roundtable that you were a witness to, Del, by Dr. Casey Means from Stanford, how she talked about in medical school, they don't talk about this. They don't have the nutrition research. They don't look at all the studies behind metabolic disorders.

And they don't give doctors the root cause information on how to prevent a lot of these problems in children and in the American public. And it was such a courageous testimony that she gave on behalf of all of the medical professionals in the world. I believe there needs to be a revolution with doctors demanding that medical schools change. And this information gets into the curriculum there because they could literally save thousands and thousands of people. I mean, this reminds me of a time when I was at work and I was having, I had a terrible boss. He was harassing me. It was so awful.

I went into my primary care doctor's office. And she, because I couldn't sleep and I was anxious to go to work, she didn't tell me, hey, Bonnie, you should think about quitting your job. You should, you know, think about maybe looking at a different career. She didn't give me any of that advice. She put me on three psychopatic drugs. You know, she put me on a clonopin, Xanax, and Ambien, right there in the doctor's office, just wrote the prescription and gave it to me.

I mean, that kind of stuff is absolutely crazy when we're not even looking at what's actually happening in someone's life. What are the environmental factors they can do? Whether they quit their job or maybe they stop eating artificial food dyes and cereal, we have to look at the root cause of a lot of these issues. Absolutely. You've been so successful at doing that. Jen Sherry, my executive producer and I were sitting back, I was like, I'm pretty sure I worked with you when I was on the doctor's show. we started looking at, you know, images of you at CBS. So I feel like we go back further than I had remembered before.

But how many companies have you gotten to change, you know, their product based on your petitions so far in the work that you've done? Dozens. And, I mean, just some off the top of my head, you know, we've gotten subway to remove azodicarbodomide as well as every bread manufacturer in America. This was a chemical that you'd find in yoga mats and shoe rubber. all over the globe. You get fined $450,000.

If you get caught using it in Singapore, we got Starbucks to remove a Carmel Color Level 4, which is an ammonia-based dye linked to cancer according to the International Agency for Research on Cancer. We got them to post their ingredients for all their menu items, which they hid from the public for such a long time. We got the beer manufacturers,

Anheuser-Busch and Miller Coors, to release the ingredients in beer for the first time in history. You know, it was so funny. Every time I would open up the fridge, The one thing I didn't know the ingredients for was my husband's Newcastle beer. And I was just like, well, knowing what they had known about the food industry, I was like, they've got to be hiding something in there.

And I found out all kinds of stuff the beer industry was doing. They were putting natural flavors, caramel coloring to make the hops look darker than they should. High fructose corn syrup and corn syrup and beer. I mean, all kinds of things were being added to beer. Whereas, again, in Europe, they have a German purity law that you can only use certain ingredients to call it beer. Right. You know, we've gotten craft to remove artificial food dyes from mac and cheese. We've gotten general mills to remove BHT from their cereals.

I mean, Chick-fil-A to remove several different chemicals from their entire menu items, including artificial dyes and TBHQ. They went antibiotic-free for a long time, and they just actually went back on their promise this year, which was so sad. Oh, no. Yes, yes. they did and they cited problems in the supply chain and it's just a really sad thing that happened. But it just goes to show you there's got to be somebody holding these companies accountable.

Where are the people in Washington? Where are elected politicians? Where are the other activists that are actually holding these companies accountable? Yes, there could be regulation changes in all of that. But I feel like if we go directly to the companies that are making these products and we target them, they will change. I've shown it over and over again. And that's why I chose Kellogg's because they are targeting little children, the most vulnerable of children with new products like Baby Shark and Disney's Little Mermaid. Their latest product they just released yesterday is squish mallow's made

after a stuffed animal that all these kids of the day love. They're making a cereal about that. And it's crazy that they would have gotten all the positive press back in 2015 for removing these dyes and BHT and then decided not to do it. And so they got all the wonderful press and all the people wrote about it. And then they never did it. Like no one would notice. Hold on. Hold on a second. So you're saying I know Europe, you know, that for Kellogg's changed fruit loops, they're using, you know, real vegetables and fruit dyes.

And that was being celebrated. But are you saying that Kellogg's was even planning on changing the products here in America? And the articles came out saying they were going to do it? And they... Yes. Go ahead. Yes. In 2015, the media went crazy and wrote about it everywhere.

And I have all of the documentation on Foodbabe.com if anybody wants to see the headlines. And then they said they would do it by 2018. And then they never did. And that's when I started my position because I was like, wait a minute, what are you doing? And then you're creating all these new cereals. Wait a minute, at least create the new cereals without artificial dies. Like, I don't understand. Like, okay, you can't change fruit loops, but like, what are you doing over here?

So not only did they lie to us, but they got all the positive press, which is like one of the most sinister things a company can do. And then you think there would be someone in the government or illegal or somewhere would like, could sue them or do something. to hold them accountable, but I've been trying to figure out how to do this. And the only way that I knew how to do anything was just public pressure in a petition. And then this year, we had renewed focus because Jason Karp from Human Co, the founder of Hugh Kitchen and a bunch of other really great for-you food brands, became a Kellogg shareholder and sent them an activist letter using one of the most powerful lawyers in the United States, Elon Musk's lawyer, Alex Spiro, and said, hey, as a shareholder, you need to do this.

This is really important. This is about children. You will be celebrated as a company doing the right thing. You'll be on the right side of history. And they started to go down the path of having a conversation with Jason. And they wanted to bring in lobbyists from the Consumer Brands Association. And they basically shut him down from inviting any doctors on his side or anybody else. They really just wanted to railroad him in a meeting.

And you know what? He wasn't going to do that. But they eventually decided after he said, hey, well, if you're going to bring two people, can I bring two people, right? They said, no, we're not going to have the meeting and they shut it down. And so at that point, I knew something else had to be done. And Callie Means, who's just an incredible person as you interviewed just last week, he has the ability to bring people together in a way that I've never seen in terms of,

of getting the right people in the right rooms and everything. And if he ends up being in this next government or in the FDA or in charge of anything to do with food or health, man, watch the heads roll. Yeah. Because he is a powerful cookie. But he got involved in this fight with me. And it's just been so cool because he's like,

hey, Bonnie, come to the Senate. Let's talk about this. And I'm like, hell, yeah, I'm coming. And it was just this beautiful moment. And I just want to thank Senator Ron Johnson too for allowing us to have an unfiltered say on what's happening in the food system. Nobody tried to stop my testimony, right? And say, oh, you can't, you know, say this or say that or you can't bring up this chemical and all causing cancer and all this other stuff.

Like they're like, go for it. This is your floor. And it was such a beautiful moment that I have never witnessed in the history of any kind of food activism at that level that we were able to do for four. hour straight, not one partisan party talking point. It was all about saving humanity. It was so beautiful. And it's just, it's been so awesome because it's just completely electrified the conversation on the web and everywhere. And I have been receiving so many positive messages from mothers and fathers and concerned citizens everywhere that they're going to join this fight with me. And it feels so good to finally feel like we have like our movement going in a direction that is just unstoppable.

And we're going to be doing this, you know, on October 15th. All right. So let's talk about that. I mean, you're absolutely right. What is so exciting. I mean, you have been at this for years. You have been accomplishing things, you know, that people say one person can't do it. Actually, one passionate person can inspire enough people to make change. You've been doing that. But it really must feel like the cavalry has arrived. I feel the same way.

I think so many of us, you know, when I was interviewing Cali, me just last week, I was like, what happened? I mean, I saw you on Tucker Carlson, but just, you know, so many people have been, you've been laying out this evidence. I wouldn't say Casey Means is saying anything differently than you were, but I just feel like maybe it was COVID. There's things around that, but people are suddenly paying attention, which means the next person that gets up and says it, this thing's going to explode and it's happened. I mean, we really do have a movement now across this nation of people are saying, hold on a second. So you're using that momentum now to really try and bring this change with Kellogg's. Fruit Loops is your example, the two different, you know, cereals being used in Europe and here. So October, what's the date?

Because you want people to show up for this, right? So tell me what's happening. That's right. So we are going to be going to Kellogg's headquarters at 1038. We're meeting at Friendship Park. We're going to hold Kellogg's accountable, not only for fruit loops, but for every single cereal that they make with artificial food dyes. We're asking them to remove artificial food dyes and BHT.

BHT is an endocrine disrupting chemical, and this is something that isn't over 40 of their cereals. This is something that causes cancer, promotes tumors, lung tumors, and it is affecting fertility, all kinds of different issues with B.HT. And this is something that they line the packages of cereal with as a preservative. So it's merely there for to make the food companies more money so they can leave the product longer on the shelf. But they don't use this camel again overseas. So we're going to be removing artificial food dyes and B.HT from Kellogg's cereals.

I guarantee they're going to have to change this. This is going to be unfortunately a big public shaming. I have reached out to the CEO of Kellogg several times at this point. I sent him a letter a week ago after I got back from the Senate and I said, hey, I'm coming. I'd like a meeting with you. I'm going to be sitting down. Callie and Jason Carp are going to be with me. What would you like to do?

Let's sit down and maybe schedule a meeting. It was crickets. So we're going to the headquarters now with a massive grassroots movement. I've got hundreds of people already RSVP. I've got 10 different health leaders across the nation coming with me. They've already signed up and more people are constantly. texting and calling me and sending me direct messages. How can I get involved? What can I do? I have the A-list actresses in Hollywood texting me too, going, what can I do? I don't like

politics. I don't want to get involved in politics, but what can I do with this? And I'm like, this is not a political issue. This is about humanity. This is our children. Cancer doesn't know whether you're Democrat or Republican. This is something that everybody can get involved in. And I'm inviting all your viewership, Del. I know you guys are going to be there. Yeah, we're going to be streaming it live, by the way. So anyone that can't make it, we're going to stream it live on the high wires. So everyone can be there. And for those people that decide maybe to not show up, I hope. I mean, bodies matter. You know, we were, you know, the events, it really matters when we pack these rooms, when we pack these parks, when we're showing them we're present to account for. But for people

staying at home, they can sign your petition, right? How do they go about doing that? Tell me about that. You can just go to foodbabe.com. It's right there on the homepage. You can sign the petition. You can also call the headquarters the day that we're going on October 15th in demand they sit down with us, demand that they have a meeting with us because they should receive these hundreds of thousands of voices and they need to hear the stories of mothers that have been impacted by removing artificial food dyes from their children's diets. And what a big impact it would make for American children everywhere. All right.

Give me the camera here for a second. Let me just talk to all of you out there. I want Voniehari to call me in about three or four days after this week and say, I don't know what it is with your audience, but we had so many people sign that petition. It was insane. At least do that. At least do that right now.

Please go to foodbabe.com slash, is it, Baby Shark, and get in their colors and move of artificial food dyes and VHT from your cereals. You can find it, obviously, if you just go to Foodbabe. Sign this petition. You don't have to write a novel if you don't want to. Just say, hey, this is United States of America. Why would an American company be poisoning us more than you are in other countries? Why are there two different products? Go ahead and harmonize and go with the safer product for everybody. That's the statement. It does make a difference. Every single one of those signatures makes a difference. This is something you can actually do and feel good about. And then, you know, let's join you out there in person and online and make. this an incredible event. You're such a powerhouse, Bonnie. It's just an honor to know you to watch you through the years, just showing what, you know, what passion and someone that decides to make a difference, the difference you can actually make. It's really inspiring. Thank you, Del. I really appreciate. And I feel the same way about you. You should be earning medals for the reporting that you've

done over the years, especially during COVID. Thank you very much. Well, look, we're going to be their support. We're going to be streaming live on the high wire as you make the trip over to Kellogg's. Hopefully they open that door, receive your petition and do what's right. This is how we do it. But the pressure, the moment, you are right, this is a time to be very excited in the United States of America. We're waking up and we're taking our power back. And it's great seeing you in the front of that line. Thank you so much, Del. All right, good luck. We'll see you very soon. Take care. Bye. Bye. All right. Well, you know, our way of sort of making a difference is we, you know, of course, we show up. We do petition. We get involved. We have rallies. We have moments. But we have the best legal team. There is of any nonprofit that I know of in Aaron Siri. Michael Con had just joined, you know, from the fluoride case. Aaron just keeps picking up the best and brightest to fight for your safety, your health.

One of the things we do is when we see something that doesn't make sense, I'll call Aaron and say, can we FOIA that? I want a Freedom of Information Act request put in. I want to know what's actually going on there. How do they prove it was safe? How they know it was safe. Is there a conflict of interest? This is a super interesting one.

Take a look at this week's legal report. COVID-19 vaccines have caused injuries across the country. We've known that. We've heard the cries and the pain and anguish of individuals, Americans, across the country, that trusted their federal health authorities to go get this product and ended up injured. And when they did, the one avenue of compensation available, because it can't sue the pharmaceutical companies, the government gave them immunity, was to bring a claim actually with the federal health authorities. Well, to help them decide whether to compensate you, they went out and they

commissioned the National Academy of Sciences, which used to be known as the Institute of Medicine, to conduct a report. Looking at 29 of what they are saying are the most commonly claimed injuries from COVID-19 vaccines, ignoring a whole host of others. But putting that aside, when they convene this committee,

you would hope you would think that the individuals at the National Academy of Sciences that were reviewing these 29 harms would be free of conflicts of interest. Unfortunately, after conducting a review at the request of the Informant Action Network, we found that at least 11 of them have taken funding from pharmaceutical companies. They have been consultants to pharmaceutical companies or are seriously conflicted in one way or another with pharmaceutical companies.

For example, one of the reviewers is Dr. Catherine Edwards. Some of you may have seen the deposition of Dr. Catherine Edwards in which it took a lot of time to get through the incredible number of conflicts that she has with pharmaceutical companies. including being a consultant for Pfizer and sat on the data safety monitoring board during the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine trials and she was paid by Pfizer. And now she's going to be a reviewer to determine whether or not that very same product

for a company for which she was a consultant, a company for which she sat on the quote-unquote independent data-safe monitoring board during the COVID-19 trials and told all America, hey, this is safe, most families. Most parents, most individuals would find that to be, to put it nicely incredible. And would not trust anything that came out of that process.

But yet, that is the process we see unfolding in front of us. It's again, exactly why the government should be completely out of the business of vaccines. Bad enough, they pay billions of dollars to pharmaceutical companies to make these products, and then billions more to then buy it from them, and then immunize them from having to pay any harms. Now they're also paying to create the quote unquote science to be able to defend themselves against claims of the vaccine causes harm. That's not the way a government should treat its citizens. It's amazing how corrupt we've allowed this government to get.

You know, it was supposed to be for the people, by the people. It's not. But I think we're waking up. I think it's time to do something about that in America. And for all of you watching around the world, I know you're all doing your part. You know, we need to be a representation here, though. I remember watching that video with Al Gore saying, you know, the CO2 is rising and this without, you know, we went to the first source.

And then we got a second opinion, a third opinion. They all agree with the point that I'm making here. They do the same thing with vaccination. They go, we talked to Paul often that made millions of dollars off his rhodovirus vaccine. And then we went to Stanley Plotkin, who made millions of dollars off of his rhodovirus vaccine. And then we went to Stanley Plotkin, who made millions of dollars off. of polio and every other vaccine. And Catherine Evers, it works for Pfizer, and all of them told us the exact same thing.

They're perfectly safe. That's how this works, right? The world of experts and all of the media that you watch, all the news channels that you watch are owned by the industries that are parading their own experts out to tell you that this is the fact. They never show you any evidence. They never show you any science whatsoever. they don't do what we do here on the high wire,

which is provide you with every piece of evidence, everything we talk about. It's not imagination. I show you the studies. Is Fox doing that for you? No. Is MSNBC doing that for you? No.

Is NBC doing that for you? No. Is CNN doing that for you? Absolutely not. None of them are. But you're still paying that cable bill. You still make sure every month that if they go all the time,

you're turning to you're like, oh my God, it's not working. I can't watch them lying to me today. Her honey, what do we do? Do we not pay our bill? You're all over it. How about you help us out here, the High Wire, and have the same level of attention to what we're doing here? It's so important.

Go to the highwire.com. The only network that's not only not lying to you, we're fighting for you, we're bringing Freedom of Information Act requests. We're suing your government and stopping them in their tracks. There's nothing like us in the world. We're asking for $24 a month for 2024. It really makes a difference. I want to let you know that we will not have an off-the-record today, because that's It only happens when our guest is in studio.

Unfortunately, Bonnie Harri was too busy to make it in, preparing for her big march next week. But we do are dropping the Freedom Files, which is going to be coming out on Tuesday, a whole batch of them, and then they'll be trickling out over the next couple of weeks. Just part of our giving back to you through High Wire Plus. You know, you hear a lot of people saying now,

you know, listen to believe them when they say it. Believe them when they tell you that there's no such thing as freedom of speech. That freedom of speech does not apply to misinformation. You know, we looked at our First Amendment. In fact, bring it up again. I don't see anything in here that says, but if there's ever in misinformation in the future, that can be stopped. We'll make some adjustments. There's no partial adjustments.

There's no if there's a pandemic. There's no if social media allows people to actually find. their tribe. There's none of that. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech in any way at all or of the press or the right of the people to peaceably to assemble, which was taken away from us during COVID by the current administration and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Our courtrooms were shut down. Our jobs were taken away. Our businesses were shut down. down. And then if we wanted to go to a court and say, I want to fight this in court, not allowed

in a courtroom, folks, we are so dangerously close to losing everything our founding fathers fought for. And maybe it's because we're eating too many damn fruit loops and cocoa puffs and all the foods laced with seed oils and everything else that we're just turning into Wally and we're floating around in space. And maybe we're just too fat, too stupid, and too slow. to actually fight for ourselves. I doubt that that's the case. I know it's time. I know you know it's time to step up.

Moni Hari should not be out there alone. Neither should I or Robert Kennedy, Jr., anybody. We're not special. We just stopped thinking about it and staring at it and being overwhelmed by it. All we did was say, you know what, today? I'm going to take one little step in a direction that makes some sense to me. Seriously, I didn't set out with the highway to say I want five to seven million viewers. I want to have an international show.

I want to have this beautiful set. I want to have this amazing staff. It started in a closet with a camera and two people that cared about this subject as much as I did. And we started rolling. And we showed up the first week and almost nobody cared a couple hundred people. And then a couple thousand people. And then tens of thousands of people. Then hundreds of thousands of people.

than millions of people. And the only thing that changed with us was nothing, except telling the truth, except doing the next right thing. Stop walking up to me and telling me, thank you for your sacrifice. You've been lied to if you think that people like me or Vonny Horry are somehow living some sacrificial martyrdom life.

I get to sit at dinner with kings and queens and stellar beings that will blow your mind. You would dream to get to hang with the people I'm hanging. And the only difference between them and you and me and us is just the ones that took a step and decided to do something about it and stop being afraid of what people would think. Maybe it's fruit loops. Maybe there's something else that you care about. Baby food. raw milk, whatever it is.

If you care about it, do something about it. Because your government believes you don't have the willpower to move. Let's shock them. Let's show them how powerful we are. Let's show them we remember what actually it means to be an individual, to have independence, to have freedom. Let's show them how willing we are to hold on to that until the end of time. You'll have to rip it from my cold dead hands.

This is our moment. For this, we were born. Never doubt that a small group of passionate individuals can change the world, for indeed it's the only thing that ever has. Margaret Mead. Think about it. Be one of those people. And I'll see you next week.