The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 395: INTO THE DEEP

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

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Yeah. Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time to step out onto the high wire. Well, here in America, we are deep in election season. You can almost feel like the tension in the air as people grab. with choices about who will lead us or is anybody leading us at all at the moment. And one of the things that we cover, and I know that, you know, around the world, you

experience that, you know, through your own election process. But when, you know, I look back the last few years of this show and really what we do here, we've covered so many different what used to be considered anomalies, or shall we say, maybe even conspiracy theories, but every one of the things that we cover here, we prove with science and testimony and whistleblowers. So it's not, you know, a theory. Are real conspiracies happening? That's the question. And, you know, of course, all things really happen by conspiracy. Businesses are built because a few people conspire with a new idea for a product or a new venture. You know, people get in small groups and come up with ideas.

So this idea of conspiracy really is sort of misused. As, you know, Catherine Austin Fitz once said in an interview, it's always stuck with me. She said, of course there's conspiracies. In fact, the world is built by conspiracies. If you're not in a conspiracy, get in one. Okay, so we just have to stop with this conspiracy thing. Okay. I grew up as a conspiracy for children.

Okay. All I did my whole career was engineered conspiracies. I was taught that the fundamental train tracks of reality of conspiracies, the way you build your future is one transaction at a time. And of course, you always do it with a conspiracy. You have to be discreet. You get together with a group of people. You get together with small groups that make a decision.

Small groups and you figure out what you want to do and you build forward. Okay, the whole world is run with conspiracies. Now, I always thought of conspiracies is wonderful things. They were fun to do. They were delicious. I was great at it. I loved money. You know, what's not to love about this?

And when we end the Salary report, you know, I always say, don't ask if there's a conspiracy. If you're not in one, you need to start one. A very interesting perspective. But at the heart of all these conversations that we grapple with is really that bigger question, one that I drop on my guests all the time. Who is they? Who is the they that is doing this to us? Is it one they that communicates with the one they, this amorphous maybe group of people or a family of people? Or are there different tribes or families? How much did England have to do with this? Did we ever actually beat England? Is America really just ours? Who are the Venetians? What is the club of Rome? So many of these questions came up in an interview I did during the Olympics.

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for a great reason. There are moments where I think every one of us has said, my God, it just feels like the world is blowing apart. I'm living in crazy town. Or even worse, is this like the fall of the Roman Empire? As have we seen our best day in the United States of America? All those questions are going on very intense times. And so I decided to reach out to my good friend Matthew Erritt, who is a historian, an author,

a researcher to see if we couldn't get some historical context on what's going on here. So, Matthew, thanks for joining us again. Well, thank you for having me back on, Del. I think I kind of want to start there, which is, you know, in your books, you really get into this historical past. A lot of what we think are just brand new developments are just steps that were designed a long time ago. But just to begin with, we think of America, we think of the fall of the Roman Empire, like, how your empire, what you do, gets too big, sort of collapses on itself somehow. But what would you say are the similarities if we look back to Rome and, you know,

currently where America finds itself right now? Yeah, that's a great first question that I think opens up the door to a lot of points that are really worth making. And that is a thought that was heavily in my mind for a number of years, which is that when you look at the origins of the United States, it is very clear that ideas from the Roman Republic, we're very much present in the minds of the founding fathers. And so it would seem as though that the obvious case of collapse, the forever wars, the overblooded consumer society, the speculative bubbles that have become the U.S. economy

that have run amok, especially since the Vietnam War over the world, are destined to result in the same outcome as we've seen in the Roman Empire's collapse. But in my book series, and this sort of triggered me to conduct many years of research that manifested in my four-volume clash of the two Americas, to get across that just like there were sort of two different identities for Rome, there were two separate identities for the United States. And the founding fathers were not studying the Roman Empire, they were studying the Roman Republic. And they were trying to figure out how you could learn from the best of Rome without the outcome of its corruption slide into empire, which occurred over the dead body of Cicero,

who was sort of the last really high-level moral standard trying to stop. from embracing this new era of empire and folly. And the ideals of the American founding documents, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution that came a little bit later, were efforts to try to provide a gateway out of that collapsed function with a warning that an empire is not what America could ever allow itself to become, but that's based upon a moral citizenry that has to be always ever present, ever on guard, ever participating within the process to defend those freedoms that were bled for. And I would say as well, the idea that a lot of people in our current society lack this

understanding that the U.S. doesn't just have one identity to it. The thing that has resulted in the last, especially the last 40, 50 years of consumerism that really was triggered with the death of John F. Kennedy and his brother and Martin Luther King Jr., was not benefiting the people or the national stability of the United States, but there's a supernational enterprise above the interests of the United States per se, which has been present even throughout the days of the American Revolution and has never not been present working to create a sort of a new Roman Empire, to take the U.S. and have it abandon its anti-imperial traditions that were upheld by its best presidents.

And in the book series, I try to get at who those presidents were. Because we really only think of Rome now as imperialists. We don't really, I mean, we don't talk about the Republic as much. Just the conquering the power of Rome, fought on too many fronts as every sort of empire that falls does. Yeah. Was that an infiltration of Rome? I mean, because I think this is the question, right? Like I've said on this show that I was a progressive, liberal Democrat, whatever you want to call it, grew up in Boulder, Colorado.

I started getting into issues like, you know, science and medicine and proper testing and all these things. And you start realizing there's a lot of corruption in here. Yeah. And then as you start to break away from the two-party system and take a look at it, especially like being a Democrat, very specifically, I would say, oh, the party just changed on me. But the more I look at it and I really look at how the songs that we sung and the thoughts that we had, I hated flags and I didn't really like founding fathers and constitutions. really meaning anything. I mean, I just think, oh, no, this party has just finally got to what it was always set out to be. I just was blind to some of the underpinnings. So I guess the question is, was Rome really a republic, or was it just, the plan was always

to be an imperialist society? Well, it's a good point that you're making because, and as a Canadian too, I come from a British-run education system, which is always trained, especially young Canadians in school, to think of the U.S. as this kind of a lowly failed version of Canadians. That we're the better, wiser people who look and sound a lot like the Americans, but we're really, we didn't have to fight or bleed or die for ideas like freedom. We knew that just by being loyal to the crown, that over time we would be have freedoms, freedoms would be granted to us. Really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a real, I felt no emotional connection whatsoever to the American, experience. Why are they fighting for what's already just naturally given to us by the queen? Yeah, you know, exactly. They didn't realize that they could just wait a little bit and it would be given. And it's like, no, that was actually a bit of a fraud. It really is. And it's only when you start realizing that, no, Benjamin Franklin was, there's these anomalies. He was up in Montreal for weeks in 1776 trying to organize to get a delegation to represent the French Canadians as the 14th colony to say together that, no, we're going to create a new type of society. at the Continental Congress.

And at different times, there were allies loyal to Lincoln who took power or to John F. Kennedy, who were in positions of influence, who had a very different idea of creating an independent country, but at every single juncture, we've had a series of either assassinations, moral failures that kept Canada under the grip of this supernational entity under the crown and the whole hereditary system

on the other side of the ocean. So back to your question, I don't think that Rome was ever an ideal republic. there was always corruption, but there was moments, especially before the three Punic Wars, where Rome had more of a moral ideal that was keeping it from sliding into backstabbing its neighbors, like Carthage or other allies that it had for centuries against the bigger, virulent empire at the time, which was the Persian Empire. And if you look at how Rome's collapse sort of or subversion of itself happened,

And again, the decision to stab its ally Carthage in the back with the first of the three Punic Wars was a big one, kind of like what the U.S. did by stabbing Vietnam in the back, as far as I see it, which was a former pro-American ally in World War II, and slipping into this forever war policy that was sort of a way we lost our moral compass. And I think the intervention of mystery cults, the introduction of things like the cult of Sibel and Attis that we discussed in our last show on the Olympics, that was interesting. introduced during the Second Punic War as a program to sanction an introduction of mystery religions that would be catered towards grooming the elites of the next generation, as well as lower level masses, into some initiatory process that would shape policy from the top. And you had things like the sibling oracles or the sibling books that were brought in early on as well that were to be read by a priesthood that would interpret what the Oracle of Delphi

had written down, kind of like an E. Ching or a tarot reading of some sort, that would then advise the Senate on big decisions, like who to go to war with, who to make an ally with. Wow. And these cults, just like we had in the case of the United States under the Scottish right in the 19th century, really took over control of the secret policing operations, the military decisions were increasingly put into the positions of these superstitious initiates, as we could see with the FBI having been generated, J Edgar Hoover, who ran over, you know, he's power for seven or eight presidents was a 33rd degree freemason with the Scottish

right and that is a part of the corruption is allowing this this sort of occultism into our governing structures which is what happened I think also with with Rome too okay I've heard this term like the Venetians or a Venetian approach or governance or what's what's that about that so does that come out of Rome or is that after Rome falls it's an it's an ideal what does that mean Well, there's actually a quote from the former British Prime Minister of the 19th century, Benjamin Disraeli, who wrote a novel and in it he describes, we could actually read the quote. The great object of the Whig leaders in England from the first moment under Hampton to the last most successful one in 1688 was to establish in England a high aristocratic republic on the model of the Venetian. George I was a Doge. George the Second was a Doge.

they were what willing the third a great man would not be George the third tried not to be a doge but it was impossible materially to resist the deeply laid combination he might get rid of the wig Magnificos but he could not rid himself of the Venetian constitution

and most people would read that and be a little confused about what he's saying the Venetian system what he's basically documenting is that before Britain or England became an empire it still had a Republican, a strong Republican foundation under Henry the 7th, who's sort of the founder of the

first modern sovereign nation state. In fact, you had people like Erasmus, Thomas Moore, later on Shakespeare was part of this tradition that was very much in support of freedom and the idea of not going and conquering the world, but rather providing some moral standard of goodness for the world. And that came undone, largely through an initiative. carried out by Venice, which for several centuries, especially from the eighth century or so, up until I would say the 16th, 17th centuries, Venice was the center of world finance. It was where many of the leading Roman patrician families went after the Western Roman Empire collapsed, and many of them to sort of save themselves and reconstruct their empire, migrated to the lagoons of Venice,

and constructed a peculiar kind of republic, which was not very much a republic at all. based upon a governing structure that had a doge at the top. What is it doge? It's the origin of the word Duke or top dog, you know, the top of the chain of command in that system, who was voted or elected by lottery. Under him, you had a committee of three that kept checks on the doge. You had a committee of 10 below that.

And then below that, you had a Senate of... The only people who could participate in this type of structure, however, were members of the leading patrician families. So the vast majority of the people of Venice lived in squalor. It was, again, a center of where we saw the advent of modern weaponized banking grew out of this. After the 12-04 period, when they took over control of Constantinople, they organized the Fourth Crusade and induced a bunch of dumb warrior mercenary Templars from France to go and destroy a Christian kingdom in Constantinople instead of actually going to fight the crusade,

looted it and came out as the top influence over maritime control that Constantinople once enjoyed. They had a control of bullion, gold, silver. And there was a wake-up call. As I mentioned, England had a Republican heritage. England became a modern sovereign nation state under Henry the 7th, the Tudor King, who had the idea that the treasury of the nation

was going to not be assigned towards bankrolling wars, but rather internal improvement. He did a massive overhaul of an anti-corruption fight as well, brought in a lot of internal improvements, the training of orphans, things like that, that really created a national consciousness and power that was really good. And people like Erasmus, Thomas Moore's teacher, Cardinal Morton, were bigger players in this. And this was part of a conspiracies are not always bad. In my research, all of human history is based on intentions to work together to do things. Sure. I mean, every good idea sort of leads to conspiracy. You get a few people. Let's disrupt the system as it exists and make a better one. Yeah, exactly. And so this is a good conspiracy that was happening around this time where finally, Venice was, there was an awareness of Venice's nefarious role since they had the best espionage and diplomatic corps in the world that was very, very good at profiling different target rival governments and inducing them to fight each.

fight each other in forever wars. And so finally, people stopped fighting long enough around 1508 to have a dialogue and talk with each other, and they all recognized that they were being led by the same bankers in Venice to kill each other forever. And you had what was known as the League of Cambrai, which plays a very big role in my volume four of the Anglo-Vinician roots of the Deep State book

that you showed on the camera last time. I was on your show. And basically, you had the... Pope Julius II, Emperor Maximilian, who was brought into this, representing the Germanic sort of states. You had Isabella and Ferdinand as well brought in, and everyone grouped together to fight Venice for the first time and stop fighting each other. And it worked brilliantly.

They destroyed the Venetian fleets, and Venice didn't have a proper military. They just used mercenaries, not a very good fighting force. And right before they could come down with the final blow, to destroy Venice, which was again the center of the oligarchical controls, including the mystery cults, I would say, at that time. There were certain bribes and a brilliant diplomatic set of maneuvers

that Venice was able to officiate with Julius II, a corrupt pope, who backstabed Florence, France, and basically, within a couple of years, everybody from the League of Cambrai had a new alliance with Venice as their ally against France and Florence. This is, I mean,

it became very tragic in a sense, because this parasite could have been finally knocked out of the world forever, feasibly, with a renaissance dynamic at play as well that was producing beautiful scientific revolutions and artistic revolutions at the same time. It was potentially a new age of reason for humanity. And it was a wake-up call for Venice that realized that they were overconfident in what they thought of their natural hegemony, the new heirs of the Roman Empire. And they realized they needed a more strategic zone of a base of operations than what they

were currently enjoying in the armpit of Italy, which is where Venice is located. And the intention, I think, that was sparked at that time to begin to infiltrate Amsterdam, the Netherlands, and England as a more geopolitically intelligent place to run operations and reconstruct themselves, which began really at that moment where you saw a lot of efforts to splinter up Christianity, inducing new forever wars, especially with the creation of the Anglican Church, the creation of the Jesuits that were both, as I document in the book, two initiatives

organized through Venice. I'm not going to go into detail here with you, but it's all that to say. Just different version of divide and conquer, get you focused on, distracted on other things, create sex that fight each other and all sorts of... Let's get into banking.

I mean, obviously there's a lot, so much that we could cover, but there's like sort of these central themes right now that I feel like you hear talked about a lot, especially when you think of assassinations. We just recently had, you know, an assassination attempt on President Donald Trump, which, you know, was, I think, shocking for many of us. Maybe not enough of us.

It was kind of weird how it was like the daily news like, yeah, okay, moving on. But, you know, when that comes up, JFK, you know, Robert Kennedy, central banking always seems like it's like lurks in the shadows of this conversation, that there's something about central banks and no one better go near it. If you decide to mess with the central bank, then you're in real trouble. That idea of a central bank, you know, does that come out of this Venetian thing? Is banking a part of how you conquer or are they separate elements, you know, and how important that is to, you know, an imperialist society, I guess.

Yeah, no, Venice definitely organized or innovated banking as economic warfare. Now keep in mind, the idea of utilizing finance for economic warfare does go back to the days of the Roman Empire as well, where people would go to the cult, the oracles of Delphi, the oracle of Apollo at Delphi, and generals and kings would pay massive amounts of money to get prescriptions from the gods interpreted through the priesthood who would hear some doped up young girl usually, who was on drugs, spewing out randomness, and they would then have a power both over the acquisition of a lot of finance. that they hoarded in these temples, but also they would then be able to tell these whole armies whether you go to war or not, right? So that was the center of intelligence operations.

They had embassies. The cults had embassies in various kingdoms around the ancient world. They seemed to have been centralized in a certain way. And they were able to dole out loans at high usurious interest because they had all of this wealth and they could use it to then create conditionality-laced loans. Right. So that's something that was already, it goes back a long time, usury is an old, an old operation. But of course with Venice, we do see evidence of its more advancement in terms of the utilization of speculation on wool, things like that, that was able to get people to

think that they could make money without earning it. So the idea of casino logic was something that was a corrupting influence for many of the people in governments that were targeted for destruction or self-destruction. So when Venice was infusing itself into Amsterdam, or setting up a new type of operation in Amsterdam. The first thing that was done, and you had things like the Banco del Siena, which is an old Venetian bank, that was sort of, I think, a prototype

for what became the Bank of Amsterdam, as well as the Bors, the Dutch Stock Exchange, which created the first type of, like, when we think of just people gambling and imagery of just insane pictures of the wolf on Wall Street scenarios from Hollywood movies, that sort of didn't really exist

before the Dutch stock exchange in that form. So people could do options, trading, broker-call loans, future short-selling, things like that. That was sort of innovated at that moment. Wow. The Bank of Amsterdam was the world's... What year are we talking about? 1601 to 1609 period here.

Okay. The Bank of Amsterdam was the world's first private central bank that would operate independently of the influence of the nation. Okay. So it would have a private board of directors. It would operate outside of the influence of the government. government and coinage monetary issuances would be created through the debt of a nation. In this case, it would be the Netherlands that would then sell its debt to the bank.

That became a prototype later on for the world's second private central bank, which was the Bank of England. That occurred as Prime Minister Disraeli had pointed out in that quote, in the outcome of the 1688 glorious revolution, which was the Dutch takeover. of England where they installed the Dutch king William of Orange into the throne of what was formerly the House of Stuart. And with that takeover, now the city of London, which is sort of the square mile, supernational city within a city of London. It's literally a square mile. It's the center of the ISIS cult of ancient Londonium, which is the Roman sort of capital of the Roman Empire during the time of Caesar and before that. that was the ISIS temple. That was granted in certain things like the Magna Carta.

Extra territorial privileges were even to this very day. It's the center of world finance now is the city of London with its liverys, its leading families that manage the behavior of this monstrosity. It has its own police force, its own jurisdiction, its own judicial system. It's outside of the law. And this is where the Bank of England was created. And the idea of that was that, you know, you will have pure mathematical controls of a scientific elite who knew how to make the tough decisions that democratically elected entities would not be willing to do for the greater good of the elite, I guess is what you would think of. Yeah.

And that takeover was, again, overseen by what was then known as the Venetian Party, Lord John Churchill, Lord the Duke of Marlborough, Lord Cavend. There's a network of these leading families, many of whom had taken power during the Norman invasion, and had an incredible amount of wealth and influence, but they were known at the time as the Venetian party or the Whighonto. That was what they called themselves, the Whigs. Okay. So Wigs and Venetians, you can interchange those. Yeah, in my research, you can. And the idea of the organizing structure of that type of government had to be around some hereditary,

monarch who would be, as Disraeli pointed out, a doge. Almost captive. Some of them embraced it. Other ones like George III, who was the king during the American Revolution, didn't embrace it, but he also was driven crazy, too. There's a whole interesting story behind that. The idea of a shadow government, a parallel state, really was defined most concretely in a systematic way with Venice, and it was replicated in the case of the British Empire as a as England became, it lost its Republican roots. And this actually gets at this question of central banking again,

because under Queen Anne, who came in right after William of Orange died, there was a fight of the Republicans one last time to create the National Land Bank in 1696, which was designed to work to emit productive credit for internal improvements, kind of like what Henry the 7th had done, but in a more efficient manner. And these were people around Prime Minister Robert. Robert Harley, Jonathan Swift, the literary figure, was actually an advisor to the government.

Daniel Defoe, who wrote Robinson Crusoe, wrote the, he drafted the policies for the land bank. And it's a beautiful thing. Anyone can read it. Wow. And there were fighters. And unfortunately, the Venetian party was successful at converting this land bank into the South Sea company. It turned it into a speculative instrument and destroyed it as well as all of its investors.

the same time. And this is what the American founding fathers were dealing with, was this globally extended banking apparatus that utilized intelligence, cults that they broke away from. And it's true, as you pointed out, when you look at all of the presidents who died a while in office, and I try to go through case studies of all of them, and look at their policies, you will find certain common denominators going all the way back to Harrison, President Harrison, who died in 1840, under very mysterious circumstances after three months, all the way up to JFK and his brother, who had a policy that may be differed in detail,

but it was common in that it was trying to revive a constitutional idea of finance, protectionism, utilizing the sovereign nation state over the idea that private finance should have a sovereign control outside of the influence of the government of the people, as forebine of the people. So, yeah, absolutely.

And so the central bank here, Federal Reserve? When does that start here in America? Even though the Federal Reserve was officially created, the law was passed with the Income Tax Act in 1913, I think that you have to go a little bit further back to the Specy Resumption Act, which was a necessary precondition to set up the later Federal Reserve, which broke from Lincoln's Greenbacks. Because I would say the Lincoln Greenback system, which is what allowed the United States to survive in large measure the Civil War and finance, It's not only the war itself against a foreign directed influence that was trying to divide and conquer and break up the United States,

but it was based also on internal improvements, industrial development, the transcontinental railway. That was all being funded by the Greenbacks, which was issuing 50% of the currency. But the difference was that it was tied through a national banking system, and it was specific projects that had to prove that they existed in the physical world. that would produce one, you build, let's say, the Erie Canal, or you build a concrete, provably good project, that the outcome will erase the debt. You'll create more abundance through certain types of things

that transform the nature of the currency. It's not speculative at all. And it's based on the common good. And it also ties people's personal interests into the greater good as well. So it's the harmonization of the individual with the collective, rational way and a moral way.

And the greenbacks were going a long way to doing that with various things like the, there's a certain type of productive bond issuance as well that was working quite well. The Specie Resumption Act under Ulysses S. Grant, who was a good president, but he had some very, very nefarious characters like Gallatin's grandson, managing the treasury, who made sure that you could get a gold standard, which was in the benefit of America's enemies at the time, because just like today, Britain and the city of London controlled the Medellin, of the gold reserves in the world.

People even today, the whole nations park their gold in England. Right. So the fact that you could get a one-to-one dollar to gold ratio, go to the bank, get a dollar equivalent out of paper, is not intrinsically a good thing. It's better than nothing to have some sort of gold backing of some sort. But the gold one-to-one thing was a trap because who controls the gold at that point can control the currency, especially if they can induce speculation to make it volatile. Wow.

So by doing that, it deprived America of its ability to carry out the sorts of large-scale projects that Lincoln had undertaken and his allies had continued with the Alaska purchase and other things afterwards. Am I right in thinking that, and I wasn't a huge history, I didn't pay a lot of attention in history class. He made it so boring all the time. But, I mean, really, our founding father said a central bank is going to be a problem, right? Was that sort of the ideal, or was that argued about in the founding of America? It was, and the federalist papers showcased. You have the anti-federalist, the federalist, as demonstrating where some of the battle lines were drawn by people who on both sides

were patriots who meant well, and they were trying to figure it out. And I don't think it was necessarily as simple as saying it was against central banking so much as whether or not a, because you did have, and we've had examples of a national bank, different times, including at the earliest days of the American founding the Republic itself, as being an instrument for good, for the growth of the nation. The difference between, I think, a Federal Reserve or Bank of England-style central bank versus a type that's a real national bank is that one is outside of and even over the influence of the sovereign nation state.

The other one is an instrument of the sovereign nation state and subject to the laws of the nation. Okay. So I think that when you look at, for example, how America was able to grow its population fourfold in the first 40 years and transformed from being an agrarian society that had hardly any manufacturing and a lot of addiction to slave labor that the British had brought in over a century earlier. Right. That ability to liberate itself economically from dependency upon slave labor and develop manufacturing and also with that increased knowledge capacities of the people. and that was reflected in increased standards of living, how many people you could contain at a higher quality of life. That was done largely by the utilization of a national bank under the Hamiltonian system that was created with the reports on manufacturing,

the reports on a central bank in 1791, 92. And that was often infiltrated, even early on. The current thing we call a deep state still has its precedence back in the earliest days where something didn't, I mean, some of the, this is an important point of context. I don't want to derail it too much, but it's important for Americans especially, but Canadians do to recognize that after 1770, or 1781, which is sort of the finalization of the American cause,

you had three different members of the elites. So some were United Empire loyalists. They wanted to completely stay loyal to the British Empire's new global Roman Empire. And that was managed by the British East Indie Company, the city of London. And they were given sanctuary in British territories in Canada. That's why there's Canadians who speak English. And they created things like the family compact, the local family dynasties of Canada that still exist. Find their origins in that early that period.

The other side were authentic patriots who did really want to create the ideal of a society that was going to be based upon morality, the consent of the government. natural law. And then you had the stay-behinds, kind of like how you had Operation Gladio Nazi stay-behinds after World War II that were incorporated into the CIA and into NATO that were unreconstructed Nazis. Sort of the same kind of thing happened then, where you had those unreconstructed traitors who acted like patriots, but with the intention of always receiving commands, orders, and directives from the city of London working to subvert the U.S. from within. People like Aaron Burr, I would include within that category. Many of them were

federalists who oversaw the murder of Alexander Hamilton and Hamilton's son a couple of years earlier at the same spot in 1804. So this is the deep state structure. A lot of those leading families were recruited into the subversive operation that is a parallel state, a shadow government. At some points, taking control of big chunks of the bureaucracy of the military systems. and at other points being beaten down by real patriots who often die while in office. And again, if you look at it, there have been eight American presidents who did die while in office. Four of them are more famous because they died by bullet. Four of them less famous because they died, I think, in all cases, again, from Zachary Taylor and Harrison to Warren Harding,

who fought off the League of Nations as a world government to FDR. No autopsy on either man was ever done, but who died before he. you could see and finalize the outcome of the World War II. And I think there was a lot of poisoning in those presidents who also died and pushed back against this other thing, this foreign agency inside of America. So I think when you look at the United States, the idea of a republic, if you can keep, it was a big one, that the founding fathers, they wanted to create a system that was going to be perfectable, like the idea of a union that was going to be more perfect.

From a logical standpoint, that's an absurdity. Either you're perfect or you're better, but you can't be more perfect. It seems like a logical contradiction. But they were smarter than, they weren't logicians, and they recognize that the only way for a society to be viable is to always seek perfectibility each generation and to do so in a manner that actualizes here on earth the ideals that were very high. high set out in those founding documents, which is why Adams had said, you know, that the Republic is built for a moral and religious people and is wholly unfit for any other kind of people.

So it's only, it only works that way if you have real citizenhood that could take responsibility and improve upon their freedoms. And the banking issue was a big one. So the final thing, central banks, if they're based upon and are used as an instrument of the nation and its directors and its purpose is something. subjected to the Constitution of the nation, it could be a perfectly good and fine thing. If it's an independent agency run by a death cult of eugenicists who hate humanity, it's a bad thing. Right.

Yeah. So you brought in some videos. There's a clip of... Right. I guess it's a general? Is he a general? Like speaking out about a coup that's being attempted through banking. Is that right?

Let's take a look at it. Yeah, let's do it. Sure. I appeared before the Congressional Committee, the highest representation of the American people under subpoena to tell what I knew of activities, which I believe might lead to an attempt to set up a fascist dictatorship. The plan is outlined to me was to form an organization of veterans

to use as a bluff or as a club, at least, to intimidate the government and break down our democratic institutions. The upshot of the government, the whole thing was that I was supposed to lead an organization of 500,000 men, which would be able to take over the functions of government. I talked with an investigator for this committee who came to me with a subpoena on Sunday, November 18. He told me they had on earth evidence linking my name with several such veteran organizations.

As it then seemed to me to be getting serious, I felt it was my duty to tell all I knew of such activities to this committee. My main interest in all this is to preserve our democratic institution. I want to retain the right to vote. I have the right to speak freely and the right to right. If we maintain these basic principles, our democracy is safe. No dictatorship can exist with suffrage, freedom of speech, and press. So he's, I mean, obviously they picked the wrong guy.

Yeah. But somehow he's grabbed by a group of people that are looking to, be a shadow government or with the ability to overthrow the government? Yeah. Is this real? I mean, was he psychotic? Or when you look into it, what was really going on there?

Well, his name was General Smedley Butler. Yeah. And he was the most decorated officer in American history. And I think he still holds that record to this very day. He wrote a book called Wars A Racket around this very same time. Basically outlined how he was fed up being an instrument for J.P. Morgan, the

Rockefeller Standard Oil and Big Oil. Is that who he's referencing or pulling him aside? Are these big money financed? A lot of those financiers, and he was basically he was very beloved. And this is the Great Depression during this time.

There's a lot of pain inside of the United States, a lot of economic despair. And he was seen as a potential candidate to lead this striking American, Legionnaires who had not received their bonus pay that had been promised because there was a great depression. There was a lack of currency. Right. Funds to go around.

And there was a potential for a coup, a military coup that was ripe. They just needed a leadership of figurehead. And he would, I think the J.P. Morgan networks, people like Grayson Prevaux Murphy, who was assigned to handle him, they thought that he was just complaining that he didn't get a big enough piece of the pie during the time that he would go into the Philippines or into Cuba. or into other nations on behalf of United Fruit. And it wasn't that. He actually had a conscience, and these oligarchs don't realize that.

So he played along. He took names for a number of months, and when the time was right, he went to the media, and he made that video, which went out to movie theaters all across America. He lived in that video? He lived a few more years.

He did. But he went on the offensive, exposing this coup plot that was designed to put him as the fascist dictator after overthrowing Franklin Roosevelt in the White House. They're asking him to be like the lead, like the face of this thing. Yeah, they needed a puppet dictator

to impose the will of the J.P. Morgan elite who were at the same time the ones sponsoring fascism as the economic miracle solution inside of the United States as they had been doing. What's the definition of fascism when you're referencing it?

I mean, I sort of play with that word because I always think of, I'd say in some of the talks that I give that like we're on the verge of fascism like a corporate-driven government where the interest, the interest, just suiting, you know, of the nation,

really just suiting a small group people that are just cashing in on it while the rest of us sort of suffer. But when you're saying fascism, is that close? There's a lot of flavors of fascism, subcategories of it, but the best common denominator I could find so far is any type of government that organize itself around the idea that human beings and cattle are basically the same thing. Now that's the most general way I could say it, but there's corporate fascism.

In most cases, there's the idea of a private, enlightened class of elites, utilizing a strong man as an enforcer of some sort, have to impose their will to manage society scientifically for what they consider the greater good, which is usually their own good. So what Smedley Butler was dealing with and was exposing was that those same interests, the same, you know, Prescott Bush, Unite Union banking operations, J.P. Morgan, Rockefeller operations that were funding eugenics and the growth of eugenics inside. Let's get into that because that's a perfect segue. Sure. Something I wanted to ask you about. Like at the heart of this, you know, these sort of secret societies, deep state, if you will, is this accusation of a desire to, you know, and, well, to reduce population, right? In some ways, we hear that America was deeply in discussions of eugenics.

It was going on and then Hitler came along and kind of gave it all a bad name. And so we've kind of acted like it's gone away. But we are getting very comfortable again. I mean, Bill Gates openly will talk about reduced population. I think the Obamas have, you know, and the Clintons and, you know, they'll give it different turns, but there's just no way we can feed all these people. We really need to be, you know, have a shrink down society. When they're saying that, where does that come from?

I mean, is that a fairly new idea of a modern society that just we're starting to have so many people we can't feed them all? Or does that go back? Where does it really start, eugenics? I think that I would, before it was given a pseudoscientific veneer to sell itself a bit better, it still existed as a misanthropic idea that only an enlightened elite of scientific managers have the knowledge of how to manage scarcity. in a world where the majority had to remain ignorant, underpopulated, fighting each other. And you could see it in the writings of Thomas Malthus, who even prescribes directly how one can use the gifts that God gave us, famine, war, pestilence, to manage what became known as the dismal science. Now, Maltis, I think he himself didn't innovate that either, but he gave it a seemingly scientific veneer in 1790s. And he was a teacher at the British Haleybury College, which was the official college training the British East India Company managers.

And his followers included people like David Ricardo, John Stuart Mill, Carlisle, like a lot of the thinkers whose ideas are taught respectfully in today's macroeconomic school classes in Harvard and Yale. There were all junk theoreticians working dishonestly and disingenuously as Malthusians for the British Empire. They weren't economists in that sense. The developers of those who were managing the British Empire after the Civil War saw a need, I think, to reorganize. There was a crisis amongst the empire per se, because this system of that Lincoln had defended was going international. The Greenbacked system was being emulated, the protective tariff policy, the idea that the nation can regulate and put a protection. directive tariff to favor the development of nascent industries that couldn't otherwise compete with the dumping of cheap goods that would be controlled by London. This concept also with state-directed banking productive credit was going through Japan with the major restoration.

Germany was adopting it in the form of what Bismarck was doing with applying the Lincoln system to develop the customs union, creating a strong productive society. Russia was doing, France was doing it. And it was spreading with the idea that a nation to be sovereign has to be economically sovereign and has to be working for the benefit of their neighbors in mutual win-win cooperation in some form. And that was antithetical to the systems of empire that require everybody divided in fighting each other while everybody must remain cash cropping. So if you were doing cotton, that's all you were allowed to do, no industry. If you had industry like Britain did, because they didn't put free trade onto themselves, they wanted it for their, their, their rivals or their victims only. Right, okay.

That's how they were able to develop a monopoly on manufacturing, which was then used to dump cheap goods to destroy and undercut nations that were trying to stand on their own two feet economically. So there was a crisis in the empire as nations were waking up the manipulations of the British Empire.

And I think that part of the grand strategists, they had to create some think tanks. The Fabian Society was one of them. There was the roundtable movement, but there's another one called the X Club. And that was under the leadership of Thomas Huxley, the grandfather of Aldous and Julian Huxley. Wow.

So, author of Brave New World? Yeah, his grandfather was the founder of the X club. Wow. A deep misanthropic, venomous character, but with a big sense of humor. And he was a handler of a figure named Charles Darwin. Okay, wow. And he sort of oversaw the creation of a new explanation that would attempt to explain the obvious case of change in fossil records that were showing up. Now, Darwin wasn't the only person to come up with the theory of

evolution, but his particular model and the axioms embedded within his model were very much conducive to justifying the existence of a system of empire around the world. Survival of the fittest, the best rise to the top, eating, get rid of the fat. Yeah, exactly. That happens in nature, therefore we should, when we start getting outside of nature, we've got to do it ourselves, sort of. Yeah, and Darwin, even writes to Francis Galton, who is his cousin, and the inventor of the term eugenics, that you have won over a convert because people say, oh, he didn't really want this to be applied to society, to human society.

That's not true. He even wrote, and there's evidence of that that he said, you won over a convert of me to the science of eugenics. But like you said as well, their logic is really primitive, but it's basically that, hey, that's why the Indians are subverted, are under our control, because if they were genetically fit, then they would be the ones ruling over us, us Anglo-Saxons. But it's the opposite, so it's a dishonest way of using logic, right? And also there were certain other axioms, too, that were based on the idea that randomness,

random mutations was the fundamental cause of what appears to be ordered appearances of new attributes in nature. So there are things like that that were thrown, no directionality as well. Now, Galton, there was a fake debate, and they love creating these fake debates where people think that they have choice, but they don't. So Galton was of the view that since this is a science applied to human society, we have to centralize

the management of this new eugenics by an enlightened elite against the will of the many who are too stupid to know what's good for them, which is to die. Opposing him, you had another character from the X club, an ally of Thomas Huxley named Herbert Spencer

who generated his theory of social Darwinism, and they had these debates. And in his theory, it was just of the view that, no, if all governments deregulate, just let pure liberalism go on, unhindered by any nation state, then the weak will naturally be destroyed by the strong organically. And it's more libertarian-happler-leaning version, whereas the other one is a more Keynesian left-wing version. Right. And people were told they could pick one of the two sides.

Now, again, you did have competent theories explaining the, or hypothesizing, and I think a more satisfying way than Darwin does what was the mechanism behind evolution by people like Carl Lance von Baer, the German biologist, James Dwight Dana, an American biologist, who all had an idea that, okay, it wasn't 6,000 years ago that everything was created, but there were mechanisms like perfectability, purposefulness, design embedded within what we're seeing empirically within the fossil records leading from some primordial state of protoplasm to more complex systems emerging with a greater capacity to express refined emotions, which human beings would be the, in a sense, a teleological purpose.

It was a much more beautiful, I think, healthy idea of evolution than what the Darwinians were pushing. And eugenics became, on the one side, what people like John Maynard Keynes, who people are told today that FDR was a Keynesian. It wasn't true. John Maynard Keynes was the treasurer of the eugenic society. and, you know, he promoted an idea of a world government under a Bank of England and a League of Nations to control the masses in a depopulated world.

They were all Malthusian as well. He was part of the Malthusian League. And opposing him, you had people also at the London School of Economics, his lifelong friend, Friedrich von Hayek, who in 32 had this big debate with Keynes, where both the... were doing how do you deal with the Great Depression? Now, in either case did they deal with the fact that the Great Depression was orchestrated by those same bankers who were pushing fascism in 1929.

That's not to be discussed. Now, when we see these groups, you know, you talk about Fabian Society, X Club, one of the things that I see a lot in the produce is the Rhodes Scholars, does that fit into, is that a part of this whole group of people?

We, you know, we hear Rhodes Scholar and like, you know, so many of these people that are running in politics. Yeah. But where does that come from? Who is Rhodes? Well, Bill Clinton is the Rhodes Scholar. Oh, Bill, not Hillary.

No. Okay. But Hillary knows where the power is, and that's where there's actually a video of her giving a speech to the Council on Foreign Relations, and I think 2008 or 2009, calling it the mothership. I am delighted to be here in these new headquarters. I have been often to, I guess, the mothership in New York City. But it's good to have an outpost of the council right here down the street from the State Department.

We get a lot of advice from the council, so this will mean I won't have this far to go to be told what we should be doing and how we should think about the future. I mean, I think that those words are very indicative, considering that the Council on Foreign Relations is the American branch of the British Roundtable Movement. The Roundtable Movement was a set of think tanks that would coordinate the infiltration, the permeation, infiltration, and takeover of nation states run by a new, what Cecil Rhodes, a leading imperialist racist, ran Rhodesia in the late 1890s. He died in 1902. And he laid out a manifesto in his wills, calling for a Church of the British Empire and a new mercenary class of of bureaucrats who would be able to do the dirty work

and be trained in the halls of Oxford with road scholarships that would then be sent back to their home country to facilitate the infiltration of everything. Government, military, corporate, you name it, infiltrate anything with influence. Think multi-generationalally, ideally. And the Rhodes Scholarship Fund was one aspect of his of what we call today the Rhodes Trust.

So you had road scholarships, and you had roundtable movements. You had in the wake of World War I a solution to the war, which is one world government. That's always what they want, right? They create a war, they create a crisis, and then they try to introduce the solution. The solution there was the Treaty of Versailles involves unbearable debt repayments imposed upon Germany

that had itself been entrapped into a war. There was no reason for World War I to have happened, even to this very day. The other thing that was happening in 1919 was the creation of the Chatham House, of the Royal Institute for International Affairs by the Roundtable Movement. Their branch that they want to set up in America was agreed upon at the Majestic Hotel in 191919 at the same meeting in France. And that's also where they created the League of Nations as the solution, basically saying that nations just have to get rid of their sovereignty,

give over that sovereignty to a supernational entity like the League, that would be under the influence of the Bank of England and the city of London. and we'll never have wars again. It'll be peace. The branch in America, at first they wanted to call it the American Institute for International Affairs, but it was a little bit to, I think, direct in language.

And a lot of people back then were more savvy than they are today about the nefariousness of the British operation. So they had to call it the CFR instead. Now, it's true what you've just said. You can't really understand much about either Canada or U.S. history if you don't take into consideration throughout the 20th century, the infiltration of Rhodes Scholars and Fabians.

Both were think tanks created around the same time at the end of the 19th century. Up until just recently hearing about these Rhodes Scholars, this idea of investing in a way of thinking to infiltrate the major societies of the world. At the heart of it, is it a globalist think tank? Is it its goal to get, does it state that? I mean, I just, I wonder how we always, it sounded like, wow, they're a road scholar. It's like, yeah, you're like, wow, that's an amazing thing. And then you're like, oh, wait a minute, that means you were sort of trained with a philosopher or an idea, or they selected you out to say you're a perfect candidate for our thinking on how the world should actually work.

Well, you know, I'm, I'm weary about passing guilt on anybody by association, because there's obviously exceptions to every rule. Yeah. And I know some examples like Chris Christopherson was a road scholar. Maybe some of his choices in movies weren't the best, but I don't think he was a bad guy. And there's a few examples I'll find of people who broke with their expected profile. However, by and large, by being granted this special experience in one of the colleges at Oxford by being made a road scholar, does heighten your chances of being brought into inner clubs.

It doesn't mean that you're necessarily in on the full joke, but it means that you are going to be more useful. Yeah, more. Christia Freeland is another example of somebody who I don't think is in on the full joke. And there's no open manifesto for the Rhodes Scholarship besides what Cecil Rhodes himself had written down, and I think that does serve as a guidepost as far as the acquisition of the lost colonies of America that the leading officials within the British Empire never forgave America for what they did

and said as an example in 1776. There was always the desire in his last will in testament to require the United States, but to do so in a way that would also revive a new rebranded British Empire as a new world empire with American support. So their operatives would infiltrate and serve as this Anglo-American axis that would revive the Roman Empire, which is what was done by people like the Pilgrim Society as this pro-Anglo-American special relationship grouping

that were behind many of those people were behind the creation of the Federal Reserve in America. The Warburgs, the E. Mandel House was a leading figure around Woodrow Wilson. They were also the same ones pushing eugenics as well. I mean, 33 U.S. states had already passed eugenics laws by 1933 before Hitler even did it. A couple of U.S. Canadian provinces did too.

And this is what you had as Churchill, when FDR died prematurely, his enemies took control of many of those institutions that he'd been trying to keep under a nationalist influence, including the State Department, and set up things like the Iron Curtain, the Cold War, the Anglo-American Special Relationship in 46-47, They created the CIA after they purged U.S. intelligence of its patriots, the OSS, which was corrupt, but it had some good people in it. They were purged as red commies, and U.S. intelligence was reorganized under British directives under the CIA with things like the U.K. USA Signals Agreement.

That's the basis of today's Five Eyes, the global security dragnet or surveillance state dragnet. That was all created at this very dense period after FDR had died. and as the UN was turned along with the Bretton Woods institutions that were originally designed to serve a very different outcome, they were transformed into instruments of the empire. The IMF, the World Bank, were supposed to be, when they were set up ideologically in 44 at the Bretton Woods Conference, there were supposed to be instruments that would work like the Greenbacks

or like the Reconstruction Finance Corporation in the United States to provide credit for the long-term development of colonial nations to stand on their own two feet and to have full-spectrum economies. And that was never permitted. Unfortunately, these Fabians, these Rhodes Scholars, infiltrated and took over many of these instruments, including the UN, and had them service the reacquisition or the reconquest of the nations. One good example of that is NSC 75, National Security Council Memorandum 75,

under Harry Truman, which was on British, colonial military commitments. And the logic of this was that, well, since the Soviet Union and communism is our new enemy, and since nations that were formerly under British control of the empire want to be independent, we can't allow that, because if we allow that, then these new independent countries will likely side with communists. whether it's Patrice Lumumba in Congo or Kwame Noghruma in Ghana or any of these nationalist leaders. So the idea is we have to, it became in America's interest somehow under people like George McGee, a Rhodes Scholar, who oversaw the Truman Doctrine.

It became in our interest to protect British economic controls over their former colonies so that at the very least you could allow maybe nominal independence from these former colonies. but you can't allow economic independence. And things like the IMF, if people look at John Perkins's confessions of an economic hitman, it documents how that technique worked. Go in, you know, offer solutions, infrastructure in small nations, go build it, put them in debt, and say, oh, you can't pay your bill. You're going to have to give us all of your resources. Exactly.

And if a nation, if a leader doesn't go along with it, you have jackals that can take care of them. I feel like the center of all of these conversations is in some ways growing up in America, because we have a very, you know, a very egocentric perspective of ourselves and our power and our nation. And I think that in some ways we were looking the other way because we just thought, well, even if there is like one world power, we're going to be it. I think that that's what, in some ways, they've gotten away with it by blowing so much, you know, because America probably has the only constitution strong enough to resist that sort of global. power. But now I think it's starting to feel a lot. I think a lot of people are waking up to this idea that, hold on a second, wait a minute, we're not going to be the center of what's going on here. When you see the W.E.F saying the United States of America will no longer be, you know,

the leading superpower, they'll be, you know, we'll sort of seed that power to some form of a global group. Everyone's going to rent. We got a plan for everybody. So I think there's people waking up now just going, oh my God, wait, what's really going on? And as you're pointing out, we feel like we conquered England and we feel like we got away. But really, they just kept using different tools, educating different people. Even the WF is training people that are in our government. They brag about, you know, Canada and Trudeau and, you know, Macron and, you know. You're talking about the little young economic forum. Yeah. Yeah, young leaders. I mean, that's sort of It's sort of the same, this sort of recurring idea of a global, you know, one-ness that we're all going to be together and give up your own, your own personal identity.

It's the good of the whole. Everyone will rent. But, of course, someone owns what you're renting. Someone's actually not giving up anything. Someone's taking all the taxes from all about, you know what I mean? Someone's getting it all, right? and you know as you as you look at that it feels like America is I would say now really in in an existential crisis to hold on to its sovereignty at least that's my feeling there's a lot of people like us now that are speaking out I don't have the whole historical background I'm just watching my leaders of this nation and sort of looking back and thinking looks like this has been going on for a little while right but none of the Nothing I'm seeing looks like it's in our best interest, open borders. This is such a big conversation right now.

Millions of people coming in. And then stories about now we're going to just start giving them houses. We're going to hand them money to buy a house and them, you know, put them on our insurance systems. All while we are, we have people starving. We have homelessness, you know, on their own. People can't afford their own houses. Like, and it's just, it just seems like we, we are destroyed. or we're electing people to destroy our nation. And I guess what I found shocking is how do you get any president to say, I got the job that we all thought would be leader of the free world. And any ego that gets that,

I'd be like, stand back. I'm like king of the world. But it feels like now they're seeding the power away from what that could be to something we're not starting to take shape in this global reality that clearly has, I mean, whether or not I believe, there's a them, some group five, 10 family super Uber rich. They're making all these calls. I don't know.

But are we in an existential threat right now? I mean, as a Canadian watch, the United States of America. And I've talked to people in Europe, but certainly people that, like, have come over here from Russia or come over from other nations where they felt oppressed. And, like, you are not paying attention. Like, everything you have is falling through your fingertips. People calling from Australia saying we're watching, you don't let your constitution fall or we're all going down. How important a moment is this that we find ourselves in?

America is, in my assessment, a major, if not the primary epicenter of the world battle right now over humanity. In Canada, there is an enmeshed deep state. So our nation is built upon an entrenched deep state complex under, if you look at our founding documents. It's built around a governor general, a privy council that has the final say over what happens political policy wise. The governor general is an unelected hand of the crown of England of the hereditary. It's on your money. I feel like the moment you're born into Canada. I said when I went to school in Canada for a while, it's like we're free. It's like no you're not. Look at your money. It's not even that that queen doesn't live here. No. Oh, no, that doesn't mean anything to do with Howard governors. Like it has to. Every policy that we pass has to get royal assent. Governor General. You have a lieutenant governor installed in every province. You have deputy ministers handling and managing, unelected, the elected aspect of the government. Now, in America, you have a deep state too, obviously, but the difference being is that you have something authentic at the

core, and the deep state is an add-on that's infiltrated it. Whereas in Canada, we have authenticity, but it's not intrinsic. It's sort of an add-on. The authenticity. The deep state is built into the system. And you see that when you have Justin Trudeau pledging his allegiance to the crown and to keep secret all things that should be kept secret to his majesty and privy counsel. I shall keep secret all matters, committed and revealed to me in this capacity, or that shall be secretly treated of in counsel. Generally, in all things, I shall do as a faithful and true servant ought to do for her majesty. So help me God.

And there's videos that people can listen to online of every Prime Minister having to say this oath of supremacy. Every single one. As to say, I promise to keep things secret that need to be secret. Yes, that is an oath of secrecy as part of privy counsel that you have to be in as a prime minister or a member of the cabinet or shadow cabinet. So it's a different system, and the culture is much more inclined. As much as I love Canada, the culture is more inclined to acquiesce to authority, as we've seen. Except for areas like Alberta that have a bit more of a Texan love of freedom, but that's an anomaly. In America, there's a much more.

freedom-loving culture in a sense organically that it's unnatural to have hereditary institutions, even though you have your own problems with skull and bones and hereditary power brokers, it still recognize that dukes and lords is kind of unnatural

and seen with disdain, which is healthy. Constitutionally, your system allows for the greatest power to take down this oligarchy than any other country's constitution has, as far as I understand it. And you have historical precedents, outlined by those leaders who die,

the presidents who die while in office, if people look at what JFK is doing, what gave him the power to carry out the economic fight he did, domestically and internationally, or FDR, how did he bypass the power of the Federal Reserve by creating the Reconstruction Finance Corporation?

How did he impose Glass-Steagall to break up the banks? How did he bring bankers to jail? It was through a certain type of power located within the Constitution, Lincoln, how did he do the greenbacks? How did McKinley do the protective tariffs? So there's something to be learned from anybody who is approaching this in an honest, authentic standpoint,

which you don't get in history books, which is why history is often so boring for most people. And I think that America has been turned into a time bomb. So what was created when the Kennedys were murdered in the 60s was the transformation of a viable industrial economy where it was understood that if money is flowing or if the money circulation is growing one year to the next, it has to be justified by a measurable increase

in the powers of productivity industrially, either agro-industrial or whatever. But you have to prove in reality that the increased money is justified. If the physical economy is atrophying, but the money system in circulation is increasing, well, then there's something wrong. That was a good metric to decide,

okay, you have to correct something. In the early 70s, as the trilateral commission was taken over, under David Rockefeller, Kissinger, who, by the way, Kissinger, is a prodigy of a Rhodes Scholar named William Miannald Elliott, and he even gave a speech that in 1981 to Chatham House, that during his time as Secretary of State, he kept the British Foreign Office more informed

than he did his own U.S. State Department, and he was awarded, he was made a knight, a Knight Commander of the Order of St. George and St. Michael by Queen Elizabeth, as was George Bush Sr. So Kissinger gave the speech at Chattel. Haven House in London. That was the British Roundtable Movement in London, the British version of CFR. So you had this takeover and transformation of a once viable economy into a time bomb. And with the detachment of the U.S. dollar from...

I guess we got a quote. This is a Cassinger quote. Many American leaders condemn Churchill as needlessly obsessed with power of politics, too rigidly anti-Soviet, two colonialists in his attitude to what is now called the third world, and too little interested in building the fundamentally new international. order towards which American idealism has always tended. The British undoubtedly saw the Americans as naive, moralistic, and evading responsibility for helping secure the global equilibrium. The dispute was resolved, according to American preferences, in my view, to the detriment of post-war security. The disputes between Britain and America during the Second World War and after were, of course, not an accident. British policy drew upon two centuries of experience with the European balance of power.

on two centuries of rejecting it. The British were so matter-of-factly helpful that they became a participant in internal American deliberations. To a degree, probably never practiced between sovereign nations. In my White House incarnation then, I kept the British foreign office better informed

and more closely engaged than I did the American State Department. It was symptomatic. Yeah. That's an amazing... I mean, virtually treated. statement. Not virtually.

It's true. Right? Yeah. Okay. So, and yet this guy's like still like a hero in American politics. To wrap it up. Right now we have a, we're in one of the most incredible, insane political climate moments. I think we've ever seen.

We've had an assassination attempt. We had, uh, an incumbent present step down after, you know, having all the votes, I guess, to try to get reelected, which don't think we've ever seen that happen before in the United States of America. While we haven't personally experienced in our lifetimes, we are not being overly dramatic at all. There are historical precedents that give us a sense of what a systemic breakdown looks like. because this isn't just a localized crisis of some sort of, it's a globally systemic breakdown of something that was designed to blow.

As I pointed out, America was transformed from a viable economy that had an industrial base and a certain culture that valued production and not just consumption for its own sake in the 60s and earlier. That was a general sense into a society that lost that completely. It was severed. And gambling casino logic became normal. normalized instead of production. And we were told to be a good citizen.

You had to be a good consumer. Don't think about the future. Don't think about the past. Just be happy in your mall now. And we acquiesced to this corruption and mediocrity for so long that we allowed our economy to become like a giant tulip bubble. So the same sort of tulip bubble that was created in the 1630s in the Netherlands that created a giant wealth transfer for those in the know who were able to sell shortened

by castles and real estate for tulips. even papers that reflected the value of what was a promise to give some tulips to somebody. It wasn't even tulips. That was selling for castles. And those in the know got out early. Those not in the know lost everything. We saw a huge wealth transfer, just like we saw the Great Depression. For those in the know, they were on J.P. Morgan's preferred client's list.

They sold short. They sold early. And they bought it for pennies on the dollar, the agro-industrial base of America. And they didn't cause it to be productive. They kept it shut down. throughout the Great Depression. So the idea was to bring people into a state of psychological, emotional trauma

for the purpose of getting them to accept the unacceptable, to think the unthinkable, which was to finally embrace fascism as a solution in America in the 30s. Thank God that was fought against by... Well, we have youth now graduating in college. It feels like the majority of them,

like begging for communism. Like, communism is a great idea. You know what we need? I'm never going to be able to own a home. Yeah. You know, AI is coming, so I'm not going to really have a job, so just pay me to stay alive.

Yeah. Right? Yeah. Give me my drugs and my video games. It's whatever called collectivism on some level. Yeah. It's let the state take care of me because you've raped and pillaged everything that would be my future,

anything I could own, any assets that are out there. Yeah. Which we kind of have, or the generations have ahead of us. And now it's like, well, then now it's, and although it's like now take care of me, what it is is now enslave me. Yeah.

Now that you've taken it. everything, now just finish me off and take control. And it's scary, the radicalization of young people, for sure. The Black Lives Matter ideology, the antifah stuff. I mean, all of this is, it's weaponized the young generation. We've sung a smidgen of the type of damage that this was what this looks like when deployed. We've seen in other countries that we've conducted color revolutions against the topple, utilizing democracy movements and weaponized young enraged people who have no economic opportunities.

But it came home. home to roost. We saw damage death. Again, I think we looked at like, well, we're America doing that ugly thing that we do. And now it's turned on us. Yeah, we got our own color revolution that we went through. And that's without the economic collapse. So the actual breakdown of the $1.5 or whatever quadrillion dollars or derivatives baked into the system that are going to go up in smoke. And that could happen at any given trigger that could induce that. That would create so much fear, scarcity and desperation in people who currently are holding it together, who will be tipped, on both directions, right and left alike, that I think the desires for a renewed civil war operation, which the British had orchestrated in the 1860s, they've never taken that off the books. The divide to conquer, break up America that way, under a 21st century veneer. So that's a danger. Now again, it can be preemptively stopped if certain historic principles are actually.

upon quickly enough. The attack on the First Amendment is the most terrifying part of all this. I can fix any problem, even one that happens in the next four years. If the First Amendment stays intact, we can talk, we can communicate, we can fix some things. The moment we lose and suddenly we lose our voice and ability to talk to anybody, it's over. I mean, it doesn't, it's done. And that's what's really scary is when you have people saying, you know, basically that government decides what free speech is.

Government decides what's the allowable speech. Our First Amendment stands as a major block to the ability to be able to just hammer it out of existence. And that's a thought being held by a lot of Americans right now. And that, I think, is why I think we could lose everything in the next four years. Because if we just lose that one thing, then you've lost your voice.

And now you can't stop anything that happened. after it. Yeah, absolutely. You know, the words of Smedley Butler are as relevant today as they were back in 34 when he was saying them

that we take for granted these things. But if you allow the right to speak your mind, speak, or conscience to be taken away, then it's a different ballgame at that point.

It's futilism. Yeah. Well, it's really interesting just to see that it's been going on that we never really fully conquered. And I think that's something you have to be aware of too.

Part of this is we didn't fully fight off the, you know, the Brits, we had a big, great triumphant moment. We won some battles, but they never gave up. No, they didn't. And they weren't what we thought they were either. You know, like they promoted the idea that this empire was just red suits with funny hats. And it's like, no, it's so much more than that.

It's intelligence, it's banking complexes. That's how 10,000 Brits were able to control 400 million Indians, right? They organized cultural warfare. They organized the Brahmin class. That's why they called an American. the Boston Brahmins, the ruling families of the Eastern establishment were the Boston Brahmins, because they were the local controllers of the system of India, or any country that they would go into. They create local controls.

So it's more than we thought it was, and at the same time, when we look at it for what it was, and we look at what we were in the best of times when we didn't suck, we could see that there's all of these Achilles heels in the machine, in this Goliath. that we can hit at, and this very intimidating thing, is afraid of things, and we should do more of what it's afraid of, which is where I think that today, you know, there are certain nations that have done a better job than we have at extracting their deep state complexes, and I got to look, unfortunately, outside of the transatlantic into some of the battles that have occurred within China, within Russia, within India, against their deep states. And again, it gives me some hope that I'm seeing some actually adult state craft that's active.

in those parts of the world, and I look to the Patriots in my part of the world, and I'm getting hope as well that I'm seeing a sort of reactivation of a spirit that I've identified as being something that scares the oligarchy from the standpoint of the Lincoln, McKinley, Warren Harding republicanism that was anti-Neokon, and I'm looking at Bobby Kennedy as well, and I'm seeing a reflection of something that I recognize as being a JFK-FDR type of spirit, which is ironically very much in harmony with each other. They're all for utilizing the sovereign nation state over the interest of private finance, protective tariffs, directed credit for the common good, things like that,

looking for friendships and alliances instead of wars abroad, was a foreign policy that was shared by all. So it's not a party thing. It really goes, it transcends that, and it's a human thing against these misanthropic, I don't know, self-hating oligarchs who, it's really kind of sad to think of like what anime these guys and how they incubate and groom their next generation to become dehumanized early on as they're born into these fondies of castles and it's unnatural and sad we shouldn't envy people envy them because of Disney movies right

right dark yeah angry people so fascinating at you thanks for you know taking the time to sort of walk us through the the history of the moment we find ourselves and it's very I think we feel the tension we feel the importance and I I have hope. I have a lot of hope. Me too. That people are interested in this conversation now. Me too. All right. Thank you.

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The lockdowns from COVID ducked that in so deep. There's so many things that were just wrong about how we dealt with that. It's important to know what's going on in the world. But it's also important to have it in perspective. Yeah. Because almost everything that we see on the news is something that's outside of our control. Right.

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