The Highwire with Del Bigtree - EPISODE 397: ANSWERING THE CALL
Episode Date: November 8, 2024Del is Back and delivers details of his personal experience working behind the scenes in the 2024 election; Jefferey Jaxen Reports on the Mainstream Media’s grip on the narrative collapsing, the vir...al fluoride story and its impact on health policy in 2025, and more; Del answers YOUR CALL!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.
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Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world, it's time to step out into the high wire.
And I can't tell you how happy I am to be here because there was a serious question this morning whether I was going to be here and whether we would have a high wire.
I woke up at four, well, right around four o'clock this morning to try and get out of my hotel at 4.30 to get a very early flight in West Palm Beach, only to find out that the flight had been delayed by five hours, which would mean I would miss the show, had to rebook a different flight to Fort Lauderdale, hopped in a cab, screamed my way down.
I, you know, I tweeted out this, will I make the high wire West Palm flight canceled?
a race to Port Lauderdale for 6.45 a.m. lands at 8.45 in Dallas options. Uber to Austin
studio arrive at 1245, if there's traffic, I'm screwed, or take a second flight to Austin to arrive at
1240, but if the flight is delayed, I'm screwed. 1 p.m. showtime, what would you do?
So many of you people wait in on the topic. In the end, I decided to opt for the car. I mean,
I don't know where you're at, but if it takes the same amount of time, like three hours and 45 minutes to drive,
or sit for two hours waiting for a one hour flight that gets you there,
and then you still have to drive.
I feel like, you know, it feels like 30% of the flights these days are getting delayed
or not getting off the ground at all.
I just didn't want to take the risk.
Luckily, it worked out.
It came racing in just a few moments ago.
There I am.
Back from an absolutely incredible trip to West Palm Beach
in the middle of all the election stuff.
Before I get into any of that, I just want to say that, you know, usually this show, in fact,
I don't think there's ever been a time on this show where we don't at least run through very quickly the ideas that we're going.
This is an unscripted show, but I know what sort of news pieces and things we're going to talk about.
We do that, you know, on Wednesday night.
This is actually the first show where we just didn't get that to happen last night.
I was really, really busy all day, couldn't squeeze it, couldn't get on a Zoom call.
And then to miss the flight, man, we couldn't really do it.
this morning. So we are about, as, as just once said, we're doing it live. We're going to do it live
today. And not just any show. Maybe one of the more dangerous and precarious shows I'm ever going to
do because I actually want to step into a space that we have avoided for over 18 months.
A conversation about where I've been when some of you were asking, why am I seeing Dell
on stage with, you know, Bobby Kennedy or, oh my God, he's on stage with Donald Trump.
What's happening there? I'm going to get into some of those details.
And in order to do that, I want to start out with a caveat right here, just to be very clear,
and I'll probably say this several times because this is what makes it so precarious.
The high wire is actually an educational program that is put on by our nonprofit, the informed consent action network.
There are very strict rules around a nonprofit.
The ability for us to give you tax deductions when you donate, also to remain anonymous,
make it so that we're not really allowed or supposed to talk about things that might affect
an election. We get you to elect a specific candidate. We can't endorse a specific candidate. Can't
really talk about them. And so thus, we've really avoided any conversations like that. And it was
difficult. And I'm going to get in the details of that difficulty. But today, because the election is
over, we believe we have a window right here to reflect on some of what's happened, what is going on.
And so we're going to dance a precarious line. Some of what I'm going to say today, just putting it
forward is my opinion, Del Beechree, my involvement, and what I'm doing is Del Beechree as a person
versus what our nonprofit does in the high wire. I'll try to make this all make sense. And
since it's totally unscripted, it'll be reckless and wild. And hopefully, and I'm going to add in
one other feature. You know what? Why do we just do a call-in show today? Technology they almost
have never worked with. Let's just wing that in there, too. So if you want to get on the phone lines,
later on in the show, this is the number, 878-378-Rire, or 9473.
Go ahead and get online, and I'm going to take as many questions later on that you may have of things that you've been watching happen or whatever it is, something we, a lot of you have requested.
We're going to try and do it today because why not?
I mean, just hop off a plane, hump in the car, planes, trains, automobiles, and let's throw in a call-in show.
So to get the show off the ground, first of all, roll the world of disclaimer.
I can in this program, the Hire is a 501c3 organization, therefore cannot and does not endorse political parties or candidates.
Della speaking is individual capacity about the recent election.
There you have it.
So let's talk about the recent election.
It happened just very, very early in the morning yesterday.
Something that I think, no matter what side of the fence you were on, a level of anticipation that maybe, you know, we've never seen before.
Division, rage, anger, all sorts of accusations.
But in the end, this is what it turned out like.
Election Day finally upon us.
We are in the final stretch of election season.
It is Election Day in America.
Two candidates, Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump,
both vying for the nation's vote today.
I will strengthen our military.
I will restore peace in the world.
And I will rescue the American dream.
We are optimistic and we are excited about what we can do together.
Democracy playing out in real time.
as America anxiously awaits a decision years in the making.
More than 78 million Americans have already cast their ballots during early voting.
We're now looking at what seems to be a pretty high turnout situation,
people surging to the polls, long lines in a lot of battleground states.
This is a record-breaking election here in the state of Georgia.
A line around the block this morning before doors opened the Chicago super site.
I've talked to you about this being obviously Kamala Harris' quickest path to 270 right through the Rust Belt.
She holds the narrowest of margins in the early vote.
She will still need a major turnout on election day.
If Kamala Harris wins Pennsylvania, she is likely to be the next president of the United States.
If Donald Trump wins Pennsylvania, he is likely to be the next president of the United States.
We're going to be talking about Pennsylvania here all night long and probably beyond tonight.
Donald Trump has won the state of North Carolina tonight.
The state of Georgia will go to former president Donald Trump.
CNN projects that Donald Trump will win the Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
This is a huge, huge achievement for Donald Trump and a huge bucket of electoral votes.
NBC News can now project that Donald Trump has won the state of Wisconsin,
which means he is the winner of this race and will return to the White House.
This country is 47th president.
Donald Trump will be the 47th president of the United States,
winning what had been expected, of course, to be a razor-tight and historic race.
The Associated Press calling the race here for President Donald Trump.
Well, I want to thank you all very much. This is great. We're going to make our country better than it ever has been. Many people have told me that God spared my life for a reason. And that reason was to save our country and to restore America to greatness. And now we are going to fulfill that mission together. We're going to fulfill that mission. God bless you and God bless America. Thank you very much.
an incredible night. I actually was in the room getting to see that final acceptance speech,
something I've never had the opportunity to do before to actually be there when a president is
accepting, you know, the nomination. And so I recognize that, you know, politics can be very divisive.
I don't really want to be divisive. In fact, I think this really is a time for healing. It's why
I really appreciated how Robert Kennedy Jr. ran his campaign. I'm going to get into some details
about that. But right now, I want to just talk about this from the perspective of the high wire
and why this election really mattered a lot to this show and the work that we do. I believe that
maybe even more than a contest between, you know, President Donald Trump and Vice President
Kamala Harris, this was really a battle between legacy, mainstream media, and new media, social
media. And this is what I mean by that. If you watch the legacy media, like no other time,
if you've been in this world as long as I have, we used to have something called the Fairness
Doctrine that meant that legacy media, the mainstream media, had to tell both sides of the story.
But the polling showed that nearly 90% of the discussions about Donald Trump were negative,
and about 88% I think it was roughly for Kamala Harris were positive, which meant that all
of the networks, but one, chose a candidate, which is not really what their job is supposed to be.
They're supposed to be giving you, you know, honest facts and evidence, and we should debate,
you know, the things that they care about. Instead, it's become identity, politics, and attacks
on personality and all these different things. But the legacy media truly chose a side,
and that was Kamala Harris. And on the other side, you saw, you know, Robert Kennedy Jr.
and Donald Trump using social media. Basically, the only place that would give them a fair conversation
at all. So, you know, the Joe Rogan podcast, the Tucker Carlson's, all of that. And I will say that
this election now and this result proves that legacy media is now dead. It is dead in the water.
Where we used to go to understand our politics is no longer able to drive an outcome, even when it
wants to, and it clearly wanted to hear. Instead, all of those free voices, all of those uncensored
voices, all of really those unfunded voices that don't take on, you know, Exxon and Farmer, the way I do,
the way that we have to go to the people, so we speak for the people. That is what won here.
And it really is, it is a devastating, terrifying moment for all mainstream media, NBC, ABC, CBS,
they're terrified. They've lost control. And behind all of that, and what really in this election
was sort of where I started choosing sides was because Kamala Harris and Tim Walts were very clear
that they didn't believe that the First Amendment and free speech was an absolute,
that there should be caveats to free speech,
that there was things like misinformation,
that the government should be involved in shutting down and stopping.
He has lost his privileges, and it should be taken down.
And the bottom line is that you can't say that you have one rule for Facebook
and you have a different rule for Twitter.
The same rule has to apply, which is that there has to be a responsibility
that is placed on these social media sites to understand their power.
They are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation.
And that has to stop.
Now, that's problematic when the very people telling you that there's misinformation are the ones you keep catching distributing misinformation.
If you've watched this show clearly, masks don't work.
You know it, but they won't say it.
Social distancing was not scientific.
They know it, but they will not say it.
Tony Fauci finally admitted in front of the Congress,
but that didn't play on NBC, CBS, ABC, or anywhere,
the fact that it just kind of appeared.
We just kind of made up the six-foot distancing rule,
which meant if that rule didn't exist,
there would have been no lockdowns
because it wouldn't have made sense.
There would have been no separating ourselves,
wouldn't be blocking ourselves from our hospitals
so we couldn't see our elderly die.
All of that lie were lies.
And now those people that lied to us
were suddenly supposed to hand them
our First Amendment right and free speech
and say, you decide what's true
and what's not true. I want to go through this, but to make this point, really, and help me make
this point, is arguably maybe the most powerful entity in the world of communication. And that's
Joe Rogan. This is just a clip from his interview with President Trump. You just assume because
people loved you on The Apprentice, they were going to love you as a president? Well, I think it would be
so easy. You know, it's very interesting. Well, it probably would have been if the media didn't attack you
the way they did. If they didn't conflate you with Hitler, I mean, you,
Even today, like Kamala was talking about you and Hitler, they're going to take what you said about Robert E. Lee.
Oh, Donald Trump wishes the South one.
That's right.
He loves Robert E.
They love to take things out of context and distort things.
It's so crooked.
The press is so crooked.
It's crooked, but it's also they're diminishing themselves.
They're hurting themselves.
They're killing all their credibility.
And it's opening up the credibility to new media.
It's open up the credibility to independent media.
It's because the Internet's giving people information that they're not getting from anywhere else.
And they like the very fine people hoax, the Russia Gate hoax, all these different things that they've done, they tried to pin on you.
That's like, it's a clear distortion of what you actually said.
And I believe that that is what happened to the Democratic Party.
It got involved in lies in distortion.
Somehow, maybe the same corporate interests that control that party, also control the televisions, made their choice.
But it's the lies and distortion that's destroyed the confidence that citizens have in the United States of America,
in the government, in the regulatory agencies, and most importantly, in news itself.
But I want to go through just a couple of examples.
We won't go through the, you know, the laptop story, which we now know the CIA and FBI lied to
the world when they said that it was a rupture hoax a hoax.
The hoax was being put on by the CIA and FBI, clearly for the interests of the Biden family.
We won't get into many of the others.
I want to get to the more modern ones, the one that keeps getting brought up probably the most,
that Donald Trump is a racist.
I've heard this from my own friends and family that are liberals.
Donald Trump's a racist.
He never spoke out against the white supremacist.
In fact, said there's good people inside of it.
This is the line we saw all the time in the news.
But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
All right.
Well, that was the line.
You heard it.
It would be clipped exactly like that.
And this is how they would use it to spread the fury and the rage against President Trump.
Take a look.
President Trump's once again defending comments.
he made about the white supremacists and neo-Nazis who gathered in Charlottesville two years ago.
At a basic level, he is an indecent human being, and the comments that he made at Charlottesville
bring that home, I think, more powerfully and more pointedly than anything else he has said.
He did not trip and accidentally praise white supremacists and neo-Nazis and pro-Confederate
demonstrators who actually killed somebody this weekend. This was not a screw-up.
What he is building back up is something that was a longstanding force for political power and terror in this country for generations.
And he is now doing what he can to help them come back.
It is insulting. The president is ignorant of history.
He does not know context.
He should be ashamed of himself.
He should go back to school and get an elementary education on how this country started and about protest groups and how this country works and who he read.
represents and who he should represent.
I mean, you know, how do you defend that?
You can't say that there's good people on both sides
and on one of the sides as white supremacists.
How are those good people?
A really good argument that half this country keeps making.
But the problem is, is they use a manipulation,
that you can actually clip something
and choose the part you want
and take it completely out of context.
Now, for those of you that are watching other forms of news,
you've probably seen this.
If you were strictly watching CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, you never saw this.
So for those of you that are still with us right now, let's for the first time show you what the entire statement sounded like and the part that they like to cut out.
This is what President Trump actually said.
You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides.
And I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.
But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?
And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.
I mean, there you have it.
You never got that part of the clip.
They say he'd never condemned that.
What he talked about?
He condemned them in the very same statement, in the same room on the same stage.
You never got to see that part.
I happen to be, I've even had a call because I was in Washington, D.C. on January 6th.
I spoke on a side stage about medical freedom.
And my experience of that event was mothers, children, grandparents, people, you know, sharing sandwiches, sharing blankets, all gathered together.
It was really beautiful.
We never hear about those good people.
All we see is the storming of the gates and all of the craziness, because that's all they want you to know that happened.
And in this case is the exact same thing.
President Trump is saying there was good people on all sides, and then there was this group that absolutely should be condemned.
He did condemn them.
You never heard that.
But the big one happened for me because of the work that I've been doing.
I've actually been speaking on stages where Donald Trump was also speaking.
And I got to actually see him live for the first time, which was far more entertaining, by the way, than I had ever realized.
But I invited a couple of family members.
So you really got to see this guy speak.
Because these events are joy, love-filled.
My wife even said the first one we went to just a couple of weeks ago, she says, oh, my God, there's so much joy in this room.
was packed like 20,000 people.
They're singing and they're praying together and just it's a love fest and celebrating the future
and a dream of the future.
And then you go home and watch mainstream news calling the event I was just at with my family,
something I would easily bring my kids to calling them, you know, white supremacist,
Nazi rallies filled with hate speech.
And I can't tell you what it's like to be like living in one world.
and then knowing when watching the news,
paint a totally different world
for some people that are stuck in some bubble, unfortunately.
And I'm not accusing them to my family members and friends
that may be watching this that bought into it.
I get it.
If you were coming home, if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes,
they wouldn't believe it.
But here is the line just last week
that is an absolute lie about what was said.
This is what they ripped into Donald Trump was saying,
and I was in the room when I saw this statement made.
She's a radical war hawk.
Let's put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrel shooting at her, okay?
Let's see how she feels about it.
You know, when the guns are trained on her face.
Well, that was the line.
Certainly sounds terrifying and horrifying, and boy, they sure made it sound like that.
In the news, this is what you saw on all those other channels.
Trump calls for Cheney execution.
Donald Trump is escalating his violent rhetoric.
This is not acceptable. This is so dangerous.
A former president of the United States suggesting that guns should be trained at the face of a woman who simply just disagrees with him politically.
It's a direct threat, not nine barrels pointed at her, nine barrels shooting at her.
This is just, yeah.
Well, I-
Let's see how she feels when the guns are trained on her face.
Let's sit with that for a moment.
He is a sick man.
He is a deranged man.
He has certain well-defined personality disorders.
This is how dictators destroy free nations.
They threaten those who speak against them with death, adding,
we cannot entrust our country and our freedom to a petty, vindictive, cruel, unstable man
who wants to be a tyrant.
Nine rifles aimed at Liz Cheney's face to shoot at her face.
This is how Donald Trump is ending his campaign for president.
Anyone who wants to be president of the United States who uses that kind of violent rhetoric is clearly unqualified to be president.
Now for those on the Trump side, imagine if you live in a world where that's all you heard all day, 24 hours a day.
Sick, psychophant, liar, killer, calls for the assassination.
of Liz Cheney. I mean, honestly, that should be disqualifying if you start calling for the assassination
of previous senators or Congress, really frankly, any American. I would have agreed with that
if it happened to be true. But here's the problem. Either every one of those people are absolute
morons, which I doubt they are, or they are liars. Because all you had to do was go about five
more words down the sentence to recognize that is not at all the context,
or what was being said.
So shall we do this again?
Why don't we play the statement
that I saw with my own eyes
and had to go home and watch
my family members and friends
have to sit through that lie?
But here's what was actually said.
She's a radical war hawk.
Let's put her with a rifle standing
there with nine barrel shooting at her,
okay? Let's see how she feels about it.
You know, when the guns are trained on her face.
You know, they're all war hawks
when they're sitting in Washington
in a nice building
saying, oh, gee, Will, let's send 10,000 troops
right into the mouth of the enemy.
But she's a stupid person, and I used to have,
I'd have meetings with a lot of people,
and she always wanted to go to war with people.
Actually, it's a statement that even Bill Maher said on his own show.
He said, we lied. I don't know why we're lying.
I woke up today to the headline that Trump had called for a firing squad for Liz Cheney.
And this is what I'm.
I really don't like about the media.
No, he didn't.
You don't have to move me to not like Donald Trump.
He's criticizing him for being a war hawk.
I mean, she has Dick Cheney's daughter.
This was a statement that is exactly like what every piece Nick has ever said.
My own hippie parents always said that they just took these politicians,
the Nixon's and those that put our children at war, you know, tricky dicky,
stick him on the front lines and then see if he's so keen to send everybody to war.
When you make that statement, you're passionate about it.
Why are you rushing thousands and thousands of our young children and people into harm's way for stupid wars that only sell oil pipes for your family or gas companies or this and that?
That statement is made by Democrats forever, liberals, hippies.
That was the statement.
Was these politicians, they should have to sit on the front line some time and then see if they want to send our kids to war at every single issue that may be little conflict that's out there.
so that we can continue to make money for the CIA.
All stuff, by the way, which is about to change.
It is true.
Donald Trump had less war than any president in my lifetime.
He's the only one that backed out of war.
Yes, he is against war if it's not necessary.
The least, I mean, it should be the last absolute resort.
But look at what they did.
Those are criminals to me.
That is not journalism.
Every one of those people that hold the same title that I do with journalists,
I do not believe they deserve to be called that because you are lying to the people.
You are knowingly taking something out of context and making it mean something completely different
than what was stated.
And by the way, when people are speaking live all the time and stepping in front of every camera,
yeah, they're not going to say it perfectly.
I hope they're not.
They're not robots.
I don't want like post-it notes floating through that they can perfectly memorize.
I like people that speak freely and put their ideas together.
And if you're going to take every little word out of context because they didn't say the sentence structure exactly right, you know what you're doing.
You know what they meant.
What are we going to get back to what people mean?
And I will say this.
We're going to talk more about these issues further down the show.
I have had the opportunity to be around Donald Trump a little bit.
I've gotten to see him speak a lot.
And I've gotten to watch him interact with people I really care about.
And I've watched him interact with his own family and kids.
And I will say this, he's a beautiful guy.
He loves his family.
He loves this country.
And throughout this process, because I got to get close enough, I fell in love with Donald Trump too.
That may be shocking to many of my family and to other friends out there.
But that was my personal experience.
It's not what the high wire represents, not what our nonprofit represents.
I'm sharing with you my experiences what I plan to do today.
This show is going to be partly about that.
But, you know, if you want to be calling in and you want to ask me any questions,
or maybe you think I'm out of line talking this way, that's fine.
We are definitely in a zone we haven't gone before.
I am transparent.
I like being it.
And frankly, I've been tired of having a sock stuffed in my mouth for 18 months around this election.
So we're going to let it out today.
So if you want to make those calls, 878-378-W-I-R-E or 9473.
Now, you know, I grew up doing theater as a kid.
One of the things they always used to say is like never let your understudy go on.
Or if you're in a football, you're a quarterback, don't let your, you know, the second string quarterback go on.
Because you may never have a job again.
That may be in the works for me because I let Jeffrey Jackson take over the show last week.
And he was so spectacular and did probably one of the most dynamic shows we've ever seen with a story that went absolutely viral.
I am so proud of Jeffrey.
No, I'm not walking away from the show.
You better back off, Jeffrey.
But this is what I'm talking about.
Take a look at what happened.
Definitely did not expect to be asking you
about fluoride and water two days before the election.
I was a little shock that one of their closing arguments
for Donald Trump was take the fluoride out of water.
He's going to have a big role in healthcare, very big role.
He knows it better than anybody.
We haven't talked about this at all in the last 700 days,
but suddenly the thing that's been normal,
this country for 80 years. It's like, we're going to get rid of that on day one.
In the tweet last night on January 20, the Trump White House will advise all U.S. water systems
to remove fluoride from public water. He also linked to a site that features outlandish
health claims, conspiracy theories like HIV-like viruses are in vaccines and widely debunked
medical claims. This is a tweet from you.
Fluoride is an industrial waste associated with arthritis, bone fractures, bone cancer,
IQ loss, neurodevelopmental disorders, and thyroid disease.
Of course, fluoride is in water, has been known to keep your teeth healthy, prevent cavities.
It is safe. It's not toxic.
There are some rocks to be thrown, frankly, at RFK Jr. about this stuff.
Because some of it actually is just straight up dangerous.
23.5 million people thought it was pretty great.
The news media hated it.
You know, I guess that means it's time for the Jackson Report.
Well, you know, I was running around Jeffrey and I watched this thing break loose and really, you know, it was amazing.
I had no idea.
I wasn't even around Robert Kennedy Jr. when he got involved in this.
But take us through.
How did this story break out the way?
I mean, because it was an incredible interview you did, but how did this whole thing?
23 million views and made it became headline.
I mean, I actually got, if you want, got RFK Jr.
into a lot of hot water and President Trump into a lot of hot water.
They try to use this story to, you know, shut down an election.
So how did it all come together?
Sorry, guys.
This is what happens when you report the truth.
Well, when I got the call that I needed to take over that show,
the first call I made after that was to Michael Connett.
He's the attorney at the front, at the forefront of the recent court win that has told the EPA,
go back to your headquarters and figure out a way to get fluoride out of water.
And I thought, listen, this is the biggest story right now, the biggest public health story that I've probably ever seen.
And it's about to burst because the media covered this, which is so fascinating because just two months ago, we were covering this.
This is what the media looked like when they were covering this story.
This is, I think, the Guardian.
It says, end of fluoridation in U.S. water could be in sight after federal court ruling.
Wow, that's interesting.
No word about Vax, Kennedy, nothing.
They were actually reporting the truth.
And then the Hill, just a month later, talks about this.
U.S. agency links high fluoride exposure to lower IQ and kids.
No problem with that headline.
But now we're going to get like, you know, this is where the corporate media is just,
it's been thrown into a universe and has no idea what to do in.
And we saw it with the political reporting.
They had no idea.
Kamala Harris and Trump are neck in neck.
It's going to be close.
It wasn't even close.
But now they're in a universe of health reporting and medical reporting.
which they've been so used to having their narrative control
and the regulatory agencies give them these sound bites,
these safe and effective little sound bites to report and nothing else.
And they've been reporting to audiences that have huge bandwidth
because of this new media explosion,
these long format interviews that we do.
And so when this topic came onto my desk,
I thought it's more than lowering IQ.
This is, there's over 80 years of evidence showing that this affects people at every age,
arthritis, bone cancer, calcifying your pineal gland, on and on.
I mean, you guys can go, everybody can go to this interview and watch it.
I sat down with Michael for like an hour, but you can see they're like deer in the headlights
reporting on this.
It's in what tell us about Florida.
It's in water.
It's good for your teeth and stuff.
I mean, just elementary level reporting.
And so this goes back to what you were saying at the beginning of the show.
The corporate media paradigm is over.
In fact, the first thing I did when I saw the election results on Tuesday morning, when I woke up, I wrote this article.
It's on the high wire.
Everyone should go read it, I think, today, this was yesterday, marks the official day corporate media influence ended.
So their narrative controls over and we're seeing them stumbling in now.
So this fluoride story, as they're saying, where did this come from?
It came out of nowhere just a couple days before the election.
they're stumbling into a space that this was a test.
This was a beta test on how they're going to be trying to report on what happens
with whatever RFK Jr. does, whatever Trump does, whatever public health agencies are reorganized
or whatever public health tools are looked at with a full spectrum of science.
You're starting to see this reporting now.
So here's New York Times.
They're starting to stumble into this space.
How public health could be recast in a second Trump term.
They're starting to work it out in public view.
Here's another one. What will the CDC, FDA, and CMS look like after the election?
But here's one that's interesting. This is from nature. Remember, nature was the journal that brought us proximal origins, telling us that SARS-CoV-2 was not a laboratory constructor, a purposely manipulated virus. So go back to sleep. That was when it first came out.
Now they're saying, we need to be ready for a new world. Scientists globally react to Trump election win.
Well, I have news for the corporate media. I have news for science communicators. You're not going to be in a new world. You're in it now.
better start learning because your viewership is over, it's gone, and it's come over to people
like us at the high wire because we've given long format discussions with the actual science.
But, Del, it's not just about this free and open internet that's underpinning this new media
paradigm. There's only one artery that's keeping, like this beating heart of free speech alive.
We're seeing this also in academia, an American academia. And here we have the next generation.
we're prepping these students for the next generation to take the helms of this country.
And what's happening there?
Well, we're not prepping them very well because this is a student survey that just came out.
Free speech is under attack everywhere.
Harvard, Columbia, Penn, top list of worst universities for free speech.
And what's that look like?
Let's look over to Harvard.
How does that communicate?
Cancel culture is free speech.
Harvard professor claims.
These are, this is the way we're equipping our next generation to not debate,
to not be able to talk freely about what they're passionate about, what kind of country are we
creating at this point? So this is the free speech paradigm. And I know we talked about a lot about
health, but really the conversation also moving into this next four years is how is free speech
going to be not only protected but amplified. And it's not just happening on American campuses
or through science communication, but we're seeing it through people like NSA director Jake Sullivan.
He just recently held a fireside chat. And what he's,
He said it should be chilling to Americans.
Take a listen.
How can we enhance our capabilities using influence AI
to both identify disinformation and create our own narratives?
And since you just talked about breaking down silos,
what do you think about the idea of having sort of an information
isar maybe at the National Security Council
or another actor that will have sort of an overall view
on protecting information resiliency in our domestic environment?
Thanks.
It's a good question on the information's art.
One challenge, just to be straightforward,
is that a lot of these questions around information
operations, around public diplomacy,
around the voice that America uses to speak to the world,
bleed over into questions of propaganda or politics.
And so the question is, should the White House
be the central locus for this effort,
or should it actually be distributed to an agency?
Should this be a case where you have a lead agency model?
One agency is in charge and they're sort of running it,
but it's kept one step removed from the White House.
I think on the czar, that's something
we've been grappling with and thinking about.
Across the national security enterprise,
and under NSM2, most decision-making does get
kind of brought into the NSC process,
but this may be an area where actually elite agency model
is a more effective way of setting up
for long-term success that insulates this
from the twos and fro's in politics on both sides.
That's not just, by the way, about the election interference issues.
It's about the larger question of how we decide messages we communicate, how we decide what messages we come back.
I mean, just to jump in, this really piggybacks on what I was opening with Jeffrey is, you know, the Harris administration, we've played the clips.
John Kerry, Tim Walts, Hillary Clinton, Kamala herself, saying, you know, free speech does not allow you to spread misinformation, which is what this is all about.
building departments that have AI that shut down your speech that flag you.
In Europe, some people are getting arrested over these things.
And then when you look at the clips I just played where clearly they don't see what they're doing
as misinformation, which is crazy.
Like you're pushing absolute propaganda.
You're almost putting words in people's mouth.
You're making up stories about what they said.
You're taking things out of context to make a point.
And when you look at fluoride, as you pointed out, they were positive on the story when it was
their story, but as soon as they go, oh my God,
RFK is Trump, well, they'd use it. Everything
is like, use it to take them down.
It doesn't even matter if they loved the story
a week ago, if they find any way to take
someone down, that's what they're doing. So imagine
that that's what your government, your press is doing,
and then you're building a department to stop anyone
else like us saying, hello,
that's a lie, we can prove it.
And I think what was really scary
to, you know, cap this off,
there was real conversations about Section
230 from the Kamala Harris
campaign saying they were
looking at, you know, withdrawing that protection, that 230 protection on social media basically says
you're not responsible for what people are saying to each other. That's their conversation.
And therefore, you can let it happen. If you pull the 230 away, the section 230, what they end
up being left with you use, you can be sued and you're responsible for every conversation
that's happening on social media. That would be the end of social media. That's what Elon Musk was
saying. They want to shut down X. Rachel Maddo said that she thought X should be shut down.
So we just survived an attack on free speech.
And maybe hopefully, I know this was just happening a week ago, hopefully this new administration will stop this because this is the same danger.
And we're going to keep our eyes closely on it.
I'm not going to just sign off because we think we like the administration that's in there.
Exactly.
And Sullivan there is saying, we don't want this, you know, coming from the White House may be problematic.
This is exactly what happened during COVID.
The White House was directing social media to censored people.
The CDC was sending spreadsheets of people to censor on Twitter.
So no mention of that, but it's interesting it starts out and the whole conversation of maybe we should have an information's art.
Sorry, we tried that.
Look like this.
Information laundering is really quite ferocious.
It's when a hucks to take some lies and makes them sound precocious by saying them in Congress or a mainstream outlet so.
Disinformation's origins are slightly less atrocious.
It's how you hide a little, little, hidele, it's how you hide a little, idle, little, lie.
I just don't see how that didn't sweep the election.
I'll be happy if I never hear that clip again.
Oh, my God.
So, all right.
So this is what's happening, obviously, in the U.S.
You're talking about AI for censorship.
You're talking about another disinformation czar.
But over in Europe, in Ireland, we have something that just passed in late October.
It snuck through not much media attention to it.
This was the incitement to violence or hatred and hate offenses act of 2024.
Ireland's online hate crime law passes sparks major future free speech concerns.
Now, this was something that the Irish minister said that they weren't going to pass.
In fact, Reuters said that just a couple months ago.
This was the headline here.
Ireland drops plans for hate speech law.
We come in peace.
Put down your weapons.
I mean, this is the tactic.
Everyone kind of pulls back because there's so much to focus on and they sneak it through.
Now, in fairness, it did take out the you are guilty until,
proven innocent clause, which is great, but it still has in there distributing what they call
threatening, abusive, insulting, or obscene materials carries a fine and imprisonment of up to six
months. So it does not say what really distributing is, and that's along the lines of gender,
nationality, sexual preference. So anybody that feels a little hatred coming their way or
offended by something someone distributes could make this happen. And even Trump,
pick for vice president jd vans while they were actually trying to push this push this bill in ireland
he came out and he sent a letter over to some of the heads in ireland uh this was the headline at the
time this was uh over the over the summer trump vp pick j d vans hits out at ireland proposed
authoritarian hate speech laws he said look if this was happening in russia or china or these
other nations we call them totalitarian and we threaten economic sanctions so be careful what you're
doing so now i mean the whole the whole system has changed
now and there's a little bit of a new paradigm with speech. So it'll be interesting to see what kind of
legs this Irish hate speech law gets or if they're going to start adding to it because that's another
once they get the nose under the tent, they'll start adding these clauses to it. So this is something
that can happen. Amazing. Yeah. And we should watch it because I always say it's like the ghost of Christmas
forward. That's where we could be. I mean, when I was just in Switzerland, when we were protesting in WHO
treaty, so many European journalists came up to me and said, wow, Del, we can't even do the
stories you're talking about. We're all and we're, you know, we follow you. We love the work that
you're doing, but we're way ahead of you. Our borders were being breached 10 years ago. They're just
letting immigrants flow in. We're not allowed to tell the story. We're, you know, we're being
shut down the stories. We're bringing the newspapers. So, you know, when you look at those nations,
they're not that far away. And, you know, that's what I think, and I think, look,
honestly, I think what's just happened in this country this week, thank God, enough people
realize that, you know? Right. And on the back to this whole conversation about media,
these small, insultingly small slogans and narrative control that corporate media has been so
used to pushing, they've really gotten a little lazy. The audience is, is, they know a lot of the
times they know more than the corporate media allows them to know. They can actually report
better than the corporate media. And they do in often cases. And last week I reported on a Western
Australia city, Port Headland. And they did something. They voted five to two at their local
city board to not only halt Pfizer-Modernas vaccine, but also send the information.
the science, the actual science of DNA contamination of why these vaccines are potentially
be dangerous inserting themselves into the genome of people getting this. They sent it's 537 counties
across Australia making real change. They've been put on notice. And so that here's corporate
media though. Here's the headlines out of Australia. WAS Western Australia Premier tells Port
Helling Council stick to knitting after anti-COVID vaccine motion passes. That's right.
Insult the people trying to make change. That'll go good for your viewers. Sounds familiar. Work really well
here too. Call Nazis. So this is not just happening in Australia. This is now happening in the United
States. I want to talk about Idaho. This is mainstream news. They're actually trying to do the right thing,
I guess, here. And Idaho Health Department isn't allowed to give COVID-19 vaccines anymore.
Experts say it's a first. We go into this. On October 22nd, the health department's board voted
four to three in favor of a ban, despite Southwest medical director testifying to the vaccine's necessity.
Let's look what he has to say. He said,
quote our request of the board is that we would be able to carry and offer those vaccines,
recognizing that we always have these discussions of risks and benefits. Dr. Perry Jansen
said at the meeting, he says, this is not a blind. Everyone gets a shot approach. This is a
thoughtful approach. Oh my God, bull-loney. You're not giving these to infants and children and people
just coming through the door. You're actually, now it's thoughtful. It's not one-size-fits-all.
It's not greater good. It's not. So it's interesting because now that he's kind of put on the
court of public opinion in front of this board, now they act a little differently. It's not,
you know, have fun in the hospital, weasy, as Jimmy Kimmel says. It's, oh, no, no, we're so
thoughtful on this approach. So he goes on to say, goes on to say this. This is what he was up
against. Opposite Jensen's plea were more than 290 public comments, many of which
called for an end to vaccine mandates or taxpayer funding of the vaccines, neither of which
are happening in the district. Nevertheless, that's what's happening in Idaho in those specific
counties will that spread we don't know but that is a first since before that all we really
we've really seen with respect to the COVID vaccine where things like this coming out of court
cases that ICANN has been involved in some of these federal judge blocks vaccine mandate for health
care workers another one Supreme court halts back COVID-19 vaccine rule for U.S. businesses so you
had those mandates but then even the Texas health department doctors outraged after Texas ban
bans health department from promoting COVID vaccines now that's step in the right direction if you can't
promote them and then the closest we had to what Idaho and Port Hadlin was doing was when Florida
and Florida Surgeon General Joe Lodipo put out this press release Florida Surgeon General calls for a halt
in the use of COVID-19 MRNA vaccines. He really was not successful at doing that,
but I think the bottom line here is there's a public health reckoning clearly that's happening
and going to happen in this country and these simple slogans, these narratives, public health
and the organizations and even the companies making their tools like vaccines and fluoridation,
they're going to have to defend the use of those tools with the full breadth of science.
This is what's happening right now in the U.S.
And the media, you know, whether they get on board with this or not, it doesn't matter
because we're here.
Other people like us are here reporting.
And we're going to tell you the true story and the whole story like we did with fluoride.
So enjoy the ride.
Wow, Jeffrey.
Just amazing reporting.
You know, I think this is one of those weeks where I've pinched myself.
I've got bruises all over my body when I find myself in the position that we are in.
This country's in.
This conversation is in.
You've been such an integral part of that.
I also want to thank you right now.
I'm going to be getting, you know, into the show a lot about what I've sort of been doing behind the scenes.
But I couldn't have done it without you.
Your strength, the way you've sort of filled in the gaps and held, you know, this ship together
with all the great people that work on the show.
I'm just this week more thankful than ever for you, Jeffrey.
What an incredible show last week.
And I definitely want to get you at this desk more often because it's just fun to watch you blow it out of the park the way that you did.
So keep up the great work.
We got a lot to do.
And I feel like the wind is starting to move into the, you know, starting to push the backs of our sails.
So.
Thanks, Del.
Thanks so much.
And thank you for your work.
And I got to tell you, it's going to be nice to report good news stories for months like we have been.
So let's look forward to that.
Indeed.
All right.
Take care.
I'll see you next week.
Thank you.
Okay.
You know, if you're just watching the high wire for the first time, maybe you're, you know,
tuning in because my name's been in some of the newspapers and things like that.
Great.
Welcome.
Welcome to the High Wire.
We are, you know, a very, this will be a little bit different show, a little different style.
But we are really into being transparent into getting you guys the truth.
That truth, though, is not just easily accessible.
When I started the informed consent action network,
in order to do this show, but really at the hard, the informed consent action network,
was the desire to have the truth.
When it came to vaccines, there was a protection that we've never seen with really any other product
in this country.
The 1986 Act protects vaccines from liability, so you can't sue.
Now, think about all the products that get recalled.
The only reason they ever get recalled is they lose in a lawsuit.
We saw it most recently with Monsanto's glypacet being pulled off the shelves in the form of Roundup.
We've seen, you know, fen, fenn and, you know, biocs and oxycontin, all of these stories, you know, talcum powder, if you will, baby powder.
They get recalled because they get sued.
And then we always find out in those cases, we have internal emails that are now available through court documents that tell us they were lying about the product.
They knew it caused cancer and talcum powder, you know, how many babies got it?
only find out it cause all sorts of cancers to, you know, the sexual reproductive system.
I mean, just horrible, horrible companies that get away with these things.
In that case, I think, over 50 years.
But with vaccines, you don't even have the lawsuit.
There's no end in sight.
There's never a 50-year moment where you can get to those documents and find out what they know.
How did the trials go?
Was this a successful product?
Does it have any harms?
You can't figure it out because you can't sue.
But then I ran into Aaron Siri, an incredible lawyer at the very beginning of 2000.
And we started the informed consent action record.
I did so that I could fund his work because he said, well, look, I mean, I see the issue there.
But since the government is the one that is creating this protection, this liability protection, technically they're taking on then the liability.
Let's sue them.
And we started suing the NIH, the CDC, the FDA, Health and Human Services, and we were winning.
We were blowing their minds.
We have so many cases we've won.
Then we took all those cases.
We were proving that they were lying to the public.
And then we started using that in cases to protect the military from a vaccine mandate like we saw during COVID.
Or most recently, one of the most powerful efforts we've made was rolling back the religious, we brought back the religious exemption to Mississippi, where they had no way to exempt out of the vaccine program, not since I think it was like 1976 or in the 1970s.
They lost the right to opt out of the vaccine program to get their kids into school.
We brought that back.
We just recently brought back the universities in California are now starting this next semester.
We're going to have to let you in on a religious exemption, even though all of California, when
ProVX, SB277, we broke SB27 when it comes to the universities.
There's more work to do on the elementary schools.
And by the way, if we were ever going to achieve this, we're calling it three to five.
We've been saying it.
We want to free all five states.
If you love vaccines and they're working for your family, trust me, no one's.
going to get in your way from you vaccinating your kids. But for everybody else that wants an
option that wants to maybe decide or pick and choose or have some, maybe none, we believe
in a free country you should have that option. And these are the states that still do not give you
that option, West Virginia, Connecticut, New York, Maine, California. We have a lot of work to do
and we think we can win now, but it's going to be expensive. They are going to fight like help,
more than ever. Once they've lost the government, now they're going to pour all the money.
We've got to hold on to the court systems. We need your help right now.
And luckily, in order to do this work, one of the great benefactors to the high wire and I can that's been there reached out to us and said this work is so important, it's more important than ever.
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We've been funding all of that.
But we can't let up now.
This is the moment.
This is where we really get all the work done.
I used to always say if I was a bicycle racer, I'd want to win on the downhills, man.
When I got, because I'm a little crazier than the rest of them.
I mean, pumping uphill, how far ahead can you really get?
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I mean, thinking about this,
when you think about why this government's about
to change, the FDA fought us.
They would not let us get to the Pfizer trial data
of the COVID vaccine.
What did you learn in that trial?
This is a vaccine that we funded,
the American people funded,
let us see that trial data.
The FDA said, you're not going to get it
for 75 years.
Oh, yeah?
Wait till you meet Aaron Siri.
Boom!
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Keep up the good work.
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Help us do that.
Okay.
Let me start out with another.
Let me hit the caveat one more time.
This is a nonprofit.
This show is the high wire.
It is an educational program.
And so, as I said, when I met Aaron Siri, I had just finished touring the country with the film Vax that sort of put me in the middle, in front of the cameras.
I was having to defend this film that they were saying was going to get babies killed.
We got kicked out of Tribeca Film Festival.
It became the biggest media news story in the world.
And we traveled the entire year to nothing but sold out audiences.
One of the biggest audiences that was ever sold out was by Kat and Patrick Layton.
It's how I met them.
They've been with me on this show from the very beginning.
That's how we met.
I remember pulling up in the bus and getting out, and it was just, it was like, it was like,
remember me when I saw Star Wars and it first opened up seven years old, just people
wrapped around the block.
I was like, what is going on here?
What, I swear, I said, what film is showing here?
They're like, oh, that's your film.
That's Vaxed.
I mean, we'd been in little tiny art houses up until then, show up in Orange County and thousands of people down the block.
We had that experience for an entire year.
After that, I wanted more information.
I want to go deeper into the vaccine conversation.
So I started the informed consent action network, which I said, using Aaron Siri to get to the truth.
Our mission statement for ICANN is dedicated to eradicating man-made disease.
The mission statement is not dedicated to starting a nonprofit that will be here until the end of time.
You know, may get some stuff done, may not.
Who knows?
We are dedicated to a mission.
Every one of us that works here is dedicated to healing our children, to protecting our children,
to getting all the toxins and pesticides and all of that poison out of our food, our air, our water.
We bring lawsuits to do it.
We don't just report on it.
We bring lawsuits.
And you help make that possible.
Now, all along the way, me and Aaron and those of us on our team, we bob, we weave, we're small.
We're like a seal tea.
We try to find new ways to get to that victory, to get this stuff, to make a difference in the world.
And sometimes those decisions won't necessarily fit, as I'm talking about right now, into the nonprofit space.
There's things that I can't do with I can that I wish I could or with the high wire that I wish I could, things that I wish I could talk about.
And so as I said at the top of the show, I'm going to take the opportunity because of the presidential election that you.
just happened and just finished off yesterday, and they've now declared that President Trump
will be the President of the United States. I believe I have a window here where I cannot
affect this election, there's nothing left to affect. And so I believe I can talk semi-freely
about where I've been, what's been going on, the decisions I've made. Now, along the way,
obviously, in the work that we've done, I got to meet a beautiful, powerful hero of my
Robert Kennedy Jr., who would grace stages with me. That's actually, I think, the first time
I met him in person up in Las Vegas.
We had a meeting.
Vaxed was touring the country.
He said it's an incredible film.
It's getting a lot of attention.
Let's meet.
We did.
And we really have become fast and stronger friends, really brothers now for many, many years.
But several years ago, before all of this, you know, I sat down and a few of us sat down with Bobby.
He said, man, would you ever consider running for president?
Because, I mean, obviously, you're so brilliant.
You're so knowledgeable.
you come from a powerful democratic family.
If you would run for president,
you could bring this work that we're all doing.
The transparency that we're trying to get in the government
that you've been fighting for,
don't you feel like you could make that difference?
You know, in the original conversations,
it kind of flowed around and didn't go very far,
but I finally got a call just about two years ago now,
and it was Bobby St. Dell,
you know, that idea we were talking about,
I'm thinking of doing it.
And so I started going to meetings with Robert,
Robert Kennedy Jr. and many of his close confidants and friends.
And we were discussing, should you do this, what would that look like?
How would you do it?
And so I'm going to talk about that relationship and where this all went over the last year.
And so this is going to be my story.
This is not the High Wire story.
This is not I Can story.
This is just my personal story.
I'm glad that the High Wire is sort of imagine them interviewing me.
Dell is interviewing Dell today.
Would you just bring it up one more time?
So we all saw the caveat.
There it is.
I have to tell you, folks, I'm imagining sitting in a courtroom somewhere having to defend this, and this is why we're doing this.
There's a lot of people do not like transparency, unfortunately, here in the United States of America.
I think we're about to get rid of a lot of them, but who knows where they're going to end up.
Okay, so for those of you that, you know, are not following me on X, which you should.
I wish you would just at Del Bintree, you would know where I've been, but I would do shows, you know, over the last year.
And I'd see comments from some of you saying, why doesn't he talk about Bobby Kennedy?
If Bobby Kennedy is such a great candidate and he's, you know, into all the things Dells talking about, why doesn't Dell even talk about it?
I'd be like, oh my God, I so wish I could. I so wish I could. I can't believe some people don't understand what's going on.
In those early meetings, eventually Bobby decided he was going to run for president. I wasn't going to be a part of it.
I was just there to help him as a friend, give him some ideas, some pointers. But then he was about, I knew that the date was decided. I'm going to announce. He literally gave himself two weeks.
within two weeks, I want to announce in Boston, I want to do a big thing, I was like, great,
here's what you should be thinking about, we're all like weighing in what that event should look like.
I went home.
But then just out of curiosity, about three or four days out, I called, you know, the COO that
put together to run the campaign.
I said, I'm just out of curiosity, who's directing his announcement speech?
And like, oh, well, we have a layout.
We have it all, you know, we have it all, you know, storied out in a spreadsheet.
I'm like, there's a spreadsheet able to hold a walkie talk and say, we need the next person to come to the stage?
Like, oh, no.
I was like, you don't have anyone doing that?
Like, no, we didn't.
And I was like, oh, well, you probably should.
They said, let me call you back.
I got a call back an hour later.
And there's a bunch of people in the call.
And they said, Dell's going to direct the announcement speech.
Well, that's what happened.
I didn't really have a bunch of a choice.
Obviously, I was proud to do it.
And this is just a taste of Robert Kennedy Jr.'s entry into the presidential run.
I've come here today to announce my candidacy for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States.
My mission over the next 18 months of this campaign and throughout my presidency will be to end the corrupt merger of state and corporate power that is threatening now to impose a new kind of corporate feudalism on our country.
to commoditize our children, our Purple Mountain's majesty,
to poison our children and our people with chemicals and pharmaceutical drugs,
to strip mine our assets, to hollow out the middle class,
and keep us in a constant state of war.
In normal circumstances, I would not do this.
But these are not normal circumstances.
I'm watching my country being stolen from me.
And I don't.
And I owe it to my children, to my family, and my legacy.
I don't want the Democratic Party to be the party of fear and pharma and war and censorship.
We have to be more than just neocons with woke bobbleheads.
We need, you know, we need to stand up to corporations.
We need to stand against war.
We need to put our children first.
We need to stop listening to the large corporations.
in many ways, and that's what a Kennedy Democrat is.
We need to bring this party back to the party of FDR, of JFK,
of RFK, of Martin Luther King, and those values.
In many ways, I have spent my lifetime preparing for this office
because I've spent so much time suing these agencies.
You give me a piece of ground and a sword.
And I am going to take back this country with your help,
the help of all the homeless Republicans and Democrats and independents,
who are Americans first.
Thank you all very much.
That was just an amazing opportunity.
I have to say, like you really, you know,
there's been times especially to set up, you know,
for that experience driving to Hyana's port
to meet with Bobby Kennedy on the Kennedy compound.
I mean, you just, you can't imagine, I mean, I still can't,
I still pinch myself when those experiences happen.
And to get to be a part of that, I was just backstage with the headset on.
We'd put the, pull the team together, just had an amazing event.
And I was lucky enough to work on that.
But the truth is, I walked away from there.
I still thought I got the high wire.
I got I can.
I got to focus on that.
All right, you guys are up and run and do your thing.
But about two weeks in, I wasn't seeing any videos from that event.
And I called the same person at the campaign.
Like, where are the videos?
Why am I not seeing short videos?
Like, I don't know.
The guys we have, they keep saying the heavy use.
is like, well, I got a lot. Let me come in there. So I came into a consultant, started trying to put together a media team for them. That was all rolling and doing really well. But then, you know, as that was going, I was like, had the highway. So I'm trying to run the media team. I'm trying to, you know, keep the highway going. And luckily, this team here is so fantastic that, you know, we have a groove. So it doesn't, it's not that hard to keep it all moving. Trying to figure out how media for politics, something I'd never done before in advertising and things like that was in all new space.
but I was like, you know, juggling it all and doing pretty good, you know, doing pretty good.
But then as you watch, those of you watch the campaign, censorship like we've never seen.
I mean, when I say censorship, I mean, first of all, you know, Bobby has said this himself.
You know, taking Fox aside every other network, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, you know, MSNBC, all of those lined up in the entire 19 months that Robert Kennedy Jr. ran, you know, for,
president, the first, I guess, six or so of which were as a Democrat, and got all the way up to
20 to 25 percent, polling that high in all that time, all those networks interviewed him twice.
He had two interviews of all those networks, of all of them, only two networks interviewed him
twice.
A guy that was clearly going to affect the election, and I believe just did.
But they ignored him.
They thought if we ignore him and we block him so that no.
No Democrat knows he's even running.
We can rig this thing so that we can keep Joe Biden in office, and that's what happened.
Also, they were passing rules that Bobby Kennedy, we knew that he was strong in New Hampshire
and that every single election or a primary starts in New Hampshire.
If Bobby could win New Hampshire, maybe you could create a sweep and get attention that way.
What did they do?
The DNC passed a law, a rule inside the DNC that because Bobby Kennedy, but they said,
anybody that campaigned in New Hampshire, the D&A is saying that's illegal in this primary battle.
If you went in there and tried to campaign all of your votes in the primary automatically go to Joe Biden.
I'm not making that up.
So if you're a Democrat right now, that should really bother.
Sure bothered me.
I still have it.
I'm still a registered Democrat.
This will be the last year.
I'm finally going to purge myself of that experience.
But that was what was going on.
And so because of that, Robert Kennedy Jr.
decided he wanted to do another big show.
This time he was going to talk about leaving the Democrat Party.
And he said, Del, could you do the same thing?
Can we put it on?
So I said, I would be honored to, and I brought in a brilliant team.
This time with a little bit more thinking.
I think this time we had maybe 15 days to put it together, and it looked like this.
This is a day of affirmation, a celebration of liberty.
We stand here in the name of freedom.
We are committed to peaceful and non-violent change.
We must recognize the full human equality of all of our people.
Not just to those of a particular religion.
Not just to those of a particular race.
Not just to the wealthy, but to all of the people.
We must do it with a single and fundamental reason that it is the right thing to do.
This morning for the country's most famous political dynasty.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.,
on October night,
that is time to heal a divided nation and return the power to the people.
Robert Kennedy Jr.
We are told today that our nation is hopelessly divided.
But I found something different as I travel this country.
I have witnessed an upwelling of optimism that I've never seen before.
Something is stirring in us that says it doesn't have to be this way.
And so I've come here today to declare our independence from the tyranny of corruption which
robs us of affordable lives, our belief in the future, and our respect for each other.
But to do that, I must first declare my own independence.
Independence from the Democratic Party and from all other political parties.
this decision lightly. It's very painful for me to let go of the party of my uncles, my father,
my grandfather, and both of my great-grandfathers. But my sacrifice is nothing compared to the risk
our founding fathers took when they signed the Declaration of Independence 247 years ago.
They knew that if their revolution failed, every last one of them would be hanged. They
They chose to place everything on the line.
When John Adams put his pen down, after adding his signature to the declaration, he turned
to those present and he said to them, sink or swim, live or die, survive or perish.
From this day on, I am with my country.
Well, an amazing event.
By the way, you want to make yourself look good as a producer or a media person.
Just bring in Mickey Willis to direct a video.
That video is so incredible.
I get choked up in tears of my eyes every time I watch it.
That was an amazing moment.
So to take you through it, up until that moment, I'm still just running the media team,
doing these events when they asked me to do them, still doing the highway, running I can.
And I still think, you know, doing some of the best shows we had ever done.
But I was sitting with Amarilis Kennedy, who also was much like me.
She had two kids.
She was, you know, Bobby Kennedy's daughter-in-law.
And, you know, I kept saying her Amarilis, like, you're so brilliant.
you should be running this campaign.
And I don't mean that as any slight.
For those of you, like Dennis Kucinich,
who's really, he was doing it so talented, so great.
But there's just certain things about Amarilis
and the way that she could crunch numbers
and ideas that she had said,
you should really be running this campaign.
And she had been saying for some time,
you know, I got two kids, Del.
It's really a lot to do all,
just what I'm doing already.
He's like, yeah, I know, I know.
But so after the independence, that night,
I was saying to Amarylis,
once again, Amarilis,
I really feel like you should.
should be, you know, running this. She's like, well, as it turns out, you know, Bobby's starting
to pressure me on that too. And I was like, oh, you know, good. Well, the next day he announced that
she was going to be the campaign manager. And almost immediately after it, she called me and said,
if I am going to do this, and by the way, I feel like you dragged me into it, Del, I want you to
be director of communications. In all honesty, that was one of the hardest moments of my life
I spent about three days over a weekend, you know, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
And I was really, I just thought, how am I going to do everything?
And frankly, I didn't want to let the campaign down.
Bobby deserves someone that could give 150%.
And, you know, I wanted to make sure that this worked, that we never dropped the ball,
that we kept delivering the lawsuits and all the media and everything that we do here.
But I just thought, and I've told this story so many times in my life, that, you know,
I really just started saying yes.
I believe that, you know, that God is looking out for me.
I believe he's looking out for all of us.
And I've just had this experience that if it's being, the door's being open, I'm supposed
to walk through it.
And I just sat there all weekend.
And how am I going to do all of that all at the same time?
But the message just kept coming back.
You've been chosen to do that, Del.
You've got to say yes.
And you're going to figure out a way.
So I said to Amarilis, you know, I think you need someone that can deliver 150 percent
here. I'm going to give it everything I take, but I do have this nonprofit. I do have the high
wire. I'm not going to drop the ball there. And she said, I love that. That is going to keep you up on,
you know, the breaking news. It's going to keep you fresh and on top of it. I want you to keep your
voice. I think that that's important. And I said, okay, but if anyone else comes along that can do a
better job, I mean it. Hire them immediately. I will not take it personally. Think of me as a
placeholder. Well, I made it all the way through the campaign as Director of Communications. It was a real
honor. But when it came time to the debates, Bobby Kennedy was polling at 20 to 25 percent. He
should have been on that debate stage at CNN, but President Biden said he refused. He would not
show up for a debate if Bobby Kennedy was there. And this is where I started seeing a shift.
President Trump, Donald Trump, said, I think Bobby Kennedy should be on this stage, said it publicly,
and also behind the scenes, said it to CNN. We knew that was going on. I think people need to
know that. When they think of like a dictator, a guy that's trying to control everything, this is a guy
that actually really did believe in free speech and stood up for it in the moments that counted
even when in that moment Bobby was polling evenly between the two of them the same from Biden
the same from Trump so it wasn't like Trump was safe and knew he was hurting Biden he didn't
care he just said this guy is out there he has a voice that people want to hear he's making good
points let him on the stage it didn't happen and in that moment we started realizing that this is
going to get very hard to win I'm proud of the real debate that we put on one of the greatest
technical feats in media to take a live stream feed and then interact with it with Bobby.
If you haven't watched it, he was spectacular.
Anyone that watched it knew that Bobby Kennedy actually won the debate that night.
And had that happened on CNN, I believe he would have been the president of the United States.
The world would have seen him.
He would have been unstoppable.
That wasn't the case.
And then that incredible moment where the bullet just grazed President Trump's year that was
aimed at his head, a real bullet, really aimed at his head, really fired out of
of a gun went whizzing by and actually killed people on the stage, something that only lasted
three days in the news, where the fake line about Liz Cheney, I think, lasted a week.
But after this moment, Robert Kennedy Jr. told all of us on the campaign, I need to reach
out to President Trump immediately. He got his phone number, and they connected. And he basically,
I mean, just think about that moment. Robert Kennedy Jr., you know, saying to President,
first of all, are you okay? And then he said, but I'm really concerned about your family.
I mean, I lost my uncle, John F. Kennedy when I was 10 years old. I lost my father when I was 13. And, you know, that has an effect on a family. There's a real trauma to that fear and that concern for your father, for the people you love, the possibility of losing them. And they just had this beautiful conversation and they started talking about unity, that this country had become so divided that something like this could even happen. And frankly, I have heard friends of mine sort of secretly wish that it had.
had hit President Trump.
And anyone that has allowed that thought, it just shows you how far away we've gotten
from our humanity.
But humanity was found between these two guys that then spent a conversation, not just that
day, but day upon day we're interacting for weeks.
You know, how would we unite?
How many things do we, you know, share common ground on?
And in the end, Bobby Kennedy realized that they certainly shared ground on the most important
things, which is the freedom of speech, you know, the right to body autonomy, the right to be
able to reject a vaccine or take a vaccine, the need for transparency in science, and an ability
to put an end to these crazy wars that people in government love to just send our children into
without thought, never putting their own kids or themselves at risk. And on that, he decided,
finally, after a meeting in Hiana's port, I think I've got to do this. And I think, I think
gave one of the most profound speeches in political history.
Many, many big policy wonks have said the same thing.
If you haven't watched it, watched the whole thing,
but here's just a piece of what that was like.
16 months ago, in April of 2023,
I launched my campaign for President of the United States.
I began this journey as a Democrat,
the party of my father, my uncle,
the party which I pledged my own allegiance to
long before I was old enough to vote.
In my heart, I no longer believe that I have a realistic past of electoral victory in the face of this relentless systematic censorship and media control.
So I cannot in good conscience ask my staff and volunteers to keep working their long hours or ask my donors to keep giving.
It's with a sense of victory and not defeat that I'm suspending my campaign activities.
Not only did we do the impossible by collecting a million signatures, we changed the national
political conversation forever.
Chronic disease, free speech, government corruption, breaking our addiction to war, have moved
to the center of politics.
Last summer it looked like no candidate was willing to negotiate a quick end of the Ukraine
war.
To tackle chronic disease epidemic, to protect free speech, our constitutional freedoms to
clean corporate influence out of our government or to defy the neocons and their agenda of endless
military adventurism. But now one of the two candidates has adopted these issues as his own,
to the point where he has asked to enlist me in his administration. I'm speaking, of course,
of Donald Trump. In a series of long, intense discussions, I was surprised to discover
that we are aligned on many key issues.
In those meetings, he suggested that we join forces as a unity party.
Vice President Harris has expressed no interest in addressing this issue.
Four more years of Democratic rule will complete the consolidation of corporate and neacon power,
and our children will be the ones who suffer most.
I got involved with chronic disease 20 years ago, not because I chose to or wanted to.
It was essentially thrust upon me.
It was widely ignored by all the institutions.
including the NGOs who should have been protecting our kids against toxins.
It was an orphaned issue, and I had a weakness for orphans.
I watched generations of children get sicker and sicker.
I had 11 siblings, and I had seven kids myself.
I was conscious of what was happening in their classrooms and to their friends,
and I watched these sick kids, these damaged kids.
In that generation, almost all of them are damaged.
and nobody in power seemed to care or to even notice.
For 19 years, I prayed every morning that God would put me in a position to end this calamity.
The chronic disease crisis was one of the primary reasons for my running for president.
If I'm given the chance to fix the chronic disease crisis and reform our food production,
I promise that within two years we will watch chronic disease burden,
lift dramatically. We will make Americans healthy again. Within four years, America will be a healthy
country. We will be stronger, more resilient, more optimistic, and happier. I won't fail
in doing this. Ultimately, the only thing that will save our country and our children is if we choose
to love our kids more than we hate each other. A most unifying theme for all Americans,
is that we all love our children.
If we all unite around that issue now,
we can finally give them the protection,
the health, and the future that they deserve.
Feels like yesterday.
I remember watching that speech,
and, you know, I got to have a hand
in putting a few words into some of these speeches.
A great speechwriter and great author
and thought leader.
Charles Eisenstein always had a huge part in writing those speeches.
But I'd seen a draft the night before.
I'd seen a draft in the morning.
I thought it was done.
I had all the cameras lined up.
All the news agencies were there.
We're ready to go.
Bobby was in a hotel 20 minutes away.
And about an hour before, I was like, where are you guys?
We got to rehearse with the teleprompoms.
It's like Bobby's still rewriting the speech.
And then 30 minutes before, where are you guys?
Bobby's still rerying the speech.
It's time now.
It's in the moment.
We're going live.
The feed is live.
Where is Bobby?
He's still writing the speech.
I said, you guys are 20 minutes away. What are he doing? 20 minutes later, I finally get a call. All right, he's done. He's on his way. I mean, so when he came to the door, remember saying, you know, Bobby, there's over, there's nearly 500,000, half a million people that have been waiting online for 40 minutes for this speech. If for no other reason, when we asked you, when we talked about running for president, this is it. The world is now watching. They're here to listen to what you have to say. Let them have it. And he did. And you should watch that speech. It's incredible.
And it really lays out the issues that this country was in the middle of then.
So, you know, this incredibly passionate, you know, painful, heartfelt moment for all of us.
It was the end of the campaign.
And then that evening, we knew that there was one more event that Trump happened to be at,
and he wanted to have Bobby come out on stage.
It was put on by Turning Point, which is just an incredible organization.
I've had the opportunity to work with amazing production value that they put in the shows.
But I was standing, their place was packed, 20,000 people.
And I remember asking Bobby's son, we call him Bobby 3.
I was like, has your dad ever spoke to an audience like this?
He's like, as big as this?
I mean, yeah, like Berlin and, you know, defeat the mandate, things like that.
He's like, but to this audience?
No.
I mean, it was just red hats.
The whole experience, none of us knew what to expect.
Do they even know who Bobby Kennedy is?
Well, when they announced his name, we realized that something incredible was happening.
That moment was just like this.
Tonight I'm very pleased to welcome a man who has been an incredible champion for so many of these values that we all share and we've shared them for a long time.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
decades of work as an advocate for the health of our families and our children.
Nobody's done more.
Millions and millions of Americans who want clean air, clean water, and a healthy nation have concerns about time.
toxins in our environment and pesticides in our food.
That's why today I'm repeating my pledge to establish a panel of top experts working with
Bobby to investigate what is causing the decades-long increase in chronic health problems
and childhood diseases, including autoimmune disorders, autism, obesity, infertility, and many
more.
But he is a phenomenal person, a phenomenal man who lives.
loves the people of this country as much as anybody can love the people of this country.
So Bobby, please say a few words. Thank you very much.
A few hours after the assassination attempt at Butler, I got a call from a safe food advocate
named Kelly Means. He'd been advising me for many years and on my campaign and he
told me that night that he was also advising President Trump.
And he asked if I would talk to President Trump.
And I said, of course.
And about a few minutes later, I got a call from the president.
And we talked, we had a very good talk.
And then he invited me to come see him the next day.
And I went to Minneapolis and saw him.
We met again a couple of weeks later in Florida.
And we talked about, not about the things that separate us
because we don't agree on everything.
but on the values and the issues that bind us together.
And one of the issues that he talked about was having safe food and ending the chronic disease epidemic.
Our children are now the unhealthiest, sickest children in the world.
Don't you want healthy children?
And don't you want the chemicals out of our food?
And don't you want the regulatory agencies to be free from corporate.
corruption and that's what President Trump told me that he wanted. Don't you want a safe
environment for your children? Don't you want to know that the food that you're
feeding them is not filled with chemicals that are going to give them cancer and
chronic disease and don't you want a president that's going to make America
healthy again? Thank you all very very much and God bless you and God bless America.
I can't tell you what that day was like.
I mean, just think about it.
The Democrats could have had Robert Kennedy Jr. as their candidate.
From the very beginning, he pulled above Harris, above Biden, above any other Democrat.
They knew it.
We sent them the polls.
He actually pulled in a head-to-head matchup against Donald Trump just barely ahead of him,
but he showed he could beat him when nobody else could.
And still, the Democrats didn't want a lifelong environmentalist, a Kennedy,
the namesake of one of the greatest figures in the Democratic Party.
Why?
Made no sense except that.
He said he wanted to clean up the regulatory agencies
and kick all of the corporate funding and corruption out of government.
I guess the Democratic Party didn't want that to happen.
Instead, they took the option of potentially losing to a man that they said was the end of the world
than to have a guy that clearly had an opportunity
and may have been able to win the presidency of the United States for the Democrats.
That was the journey that I was on.
It was incredible.
And shortly after that unbelievable moment where he'd been tared and feathered by the Democratic Party,
ignored, slandered, lied about for 18 months, suddenly we stepped into a room full of conservatives and Republicans,
didn't know what they would say.
And when Robert Kennedy Jr.'s name was said, the place exploded.
Even Donald Trump remarked several times, I have never heard anything like,
like this for anyone I have ever introduced.
There was no jealousy from, I was watching Trump.
There's no jealouses.
He stood there, gave him his spotlight and the chance of Bobby, Bobby,
and USA, USA for Robert Kennedy Jr.
He had clearly found his home.
That's all I can say.
Bobby found his home.
And we've been searching for it in all the wrong places
in many ways for nearly 18 months.
Shortly after that, we realized that the Maha movement had started,
make America healthy again, which was the words that came out of Bobby's mouth in that moment
where he endorsed President Trump, a movement was ignited, you know, sort of combining all
of the medical freedom movement with this new idea about food being an issue, the toxins in our
food really resonating with so many people. I decided to leave the campaign so that I could
advertise exactly that. We knew that we couldn't get Bobby Kennedy off of all the ballots.
We needed to get the message out if you want Kennedy to do his life's work to finish it out and clean up these regulatory agencies.
You're going to have to vote for Donald Trump.
I took a powerful team of my best creatives to go and make commercials that would target exactly those spaces.
So a brand new venture there that the campaign for the first time ever ran a super PAC called Maha Alliance.
And this is just one of the ads to get a sense.
Imagine you're going to make ads.
they're only going to run to the battleground states where the TV is just absolutely saturated with political ads.
I thought we should make ads that don't look like anything else.
I want things that jump out of the television and you go, what the heck am I looking at?
This is just one of those ads. We call it poison.
Manufacturers selling baby food with high levels of toxic heavy metals.
Cereals marketed to children contain a weed-killing chemical that some health authorities link to cancer.
The tap water in the United States continues.
James forever chemicals.
American consumers exposed to chemicals and additives that have been banned in other countries.
Thank you for the health you.
Well, that was one of the ads we put out of many.
I'm very proud of the work that we did.
And in the end, that election ended yesterday morning, the conversations are exactly that.
How did so many women?
How did we have the polling wrong?
It was supposed to be this giant gender gap that didn't happen.
I believe that Robert Kennedy Jr. had a huge part of that.
the advertising that the Maha Alliance was doing had a big part.
We went and tried to get through to the moms.
Do you want to keep letting this government poison your kids?
Do you want to continue the lies or do you want the truth?
Do you want to know what's going on?
Do you, I mean, you realize we've talked with Vani Hari on this show.
How is that Kellogg's is allowed to have toxic poisons in a cereal fruit loops
that is illegal for them to have in a box of fruit loops, which they make,
they have plants that can make it for all the other countries but ours.
That has got to stop.
And that messaging, I do, did sweep this country.
I do believe, Maha, make America healthy again, Robert Kennedy Jr.
When you watched the victory coming in, Trump won the states, usually by two, three, four percent.
It's exactly the amount that when we saw in the polls Robert Kennedy Jr. was holding, even after Kamlo was in and Donald Trump.
We thought if we can move that three to five percent, Donald Trump will sweep this election.
And he did.
So that's been my journey.
That is my personal journey, Del Bigtree.
It was not funded by I can in any way.
I did not talk about it on the high wire because I did not want to affect how you voted.
And frankly, I don't want to have any judgment.
We all move forward from here.
However you voted, you voted.
One thing's for sure.
Our system works.
Our system still works.
The vote works.
So for all of you out there that would really, you know, Debbie Downs, like, oh, they're going to rig it.
Oh, they're going to fix it.
Negative, negative, negative.
You know what?
It worked.
We still have a free country.
Our democracy worked.
Many, many people on all sides are recognizing this.
Now, I'm sure some of you have questions probably don't have anything to do with that.
This is something I rarely do.
But I just really because I think I felt so pent up having to hold all that in remember.
I mean, you can't even tell you what it's like.
I mean, it's literally like schizophrenia.
I'd be like, okay, wait, what am I doing?
What room am I going into?
You know, I was still even doing talks, you know, doing some of the nonprofit work I do going,
okay, wait a minute, who's funding this airline? What am I going into? And just these multiple
lives all happening at once, I feel incredibly blessed by God that I had all these opportunities
converging all at once. But why don't we see what some of you think about it? I'm open to all
of your questions. So we're going to call it on the wire with Dell Bigtree. You can call in right now
878-378-W-I-R-E. I have no idea what the first question is, but I know that we're
We've got it up.
I'm going to turn over to camera four.
And hopefully this works.
We haven't really done the system.
And so who's my first caller?
Chris from Florida.
Chris, what's your question?
Thanks, so with a lot of his own finances,
Trump might seem to own himself,
though, his actions tell another story.
And actions that RFK Jr.
might find difficult to overcome
if Trump doesn't repudiate them
by repealing also what he can,
which he can do with bad executive,
orders that he signed and show that he is indeed his own man.
And I'm referring to a few data points I'm about to give and more that are posted on my site
at the liberation on the Trump is deep state blog.
Number one, President Trump awards presidential commendations to Operation Warp Speed Team
January 19th, 2021.
And that's just-
Do you have a question?
I mean, I'd always stick to questions.
Do you have a question?
If you want to have your own show, you could do that.
I wanted to just answer a question so that I could get to the other questions.
Oh, well, would you agree that Trump should not have, for instance,
awarded presidential accommodations to the Operation Warp Speed team and that he should have fired Fauci?
Oh, yeah.
So I got the question.
He should have included in Warp Speed.
Here's what I would say.
And this is a very important question for everyone in our movement.
You know, I don't agree with Operation Warp Speed.
It didn't seem like the world's greatest idea to me.
And if you were watching the highway, you saw all the problems that were in the trials, the animal trials prior to the vaccine.
Once Warp Speed was announced, I realized there was going to be a major problem because they're going to rush a vaccine.
But I also knew that they were going to show the world how vaccines are made.
In investigation, no one was believing us, that they don't have long-term safety trials, that they rush these things on the market.
So it was an opportunity for us to show the world how this is done.
And frankly, the real truth is, is believe it or not, the COVID vaccine went through the most thorough,
maybe arguably the most thorough trial we've seen of a vaccine.
It's not saying much for that vaccine.
I'm not promoting the vaccine.
What I'm saying is the childhood vaccine is so untested that that actually would have been a model example.
It's still horrible.
It still didn't show us anything.
It wasn't long enough to see any of the issues.
And we're learning more and more through the Pfizer papers in the great book by Naomi Wolf,
all that they did know, but we're hiding.
And, you know, but this is what I want to say about President Trump.
First of all, he's not a virologist or a vaccinologist or any of that.
He's the President of the United States.
And when you put yourself in that position, you're not a scientist.
You want to do what's right.
Here's what I would say about that.
And it was a question that came up as we discussed it with Robert Kennedy and what are we going to do when we go in.
This is what I say about President Trump.
And I do believe that this is true.
And I think he represented this.
He was president for the entire country.
This is a country that did believe in vaccinations, did believe that we were under threat by a COVID virus.
And who wouldn't under the circumstances?
Every single, you know, professional expert that you could really see on a television was telling you we had this COVID pandemic.
And so Donald Trump, I think, should say this.
I made a vaccine faster than anybody.
For everyone that wanted a vaccine, he made a vaccine faster than any president had, gave more funding into the vaccine program than any president ever had.
I'm not crazy about that, but there are a lot of Americans that were, and then delivered that vaccine faster than anyone in history.
But let's remember, he always said, I would never mandate this.
I don't believe in mandates, but I got you that vaccine as fast as anyone's ever done it.
So for people who believe in vaccines, you know, hip, hip, hooray.
But he also did something else.
He didn't just stop there.
He was the one that went out and said, you know what, I've heard of this drug called hydroxychloroquine.
I saw some studies in France.
He was really talking about Zelenko.
up in New York,
that was having amazing success
with an available,
very affordable drug
that looked like it could do
almost the same thing
before the vaccine
ever came along
and he made sure
that was distributed
across the country.
Now the FDA got in the way
and all sorts of
swamp creatures around him
really messed up
the distribution of that
but remember
not only did he see it
I mean really like
a true general
that doesn't just march
his children and put them
on the front lines
he went on the front lines
and he took the stuff himself
and kept saying
I'm taking it
said I think it's working
for me. And so, you know, what else do you want from somebody? And then ultimately, he's always said,
you know, I don't care if you take drugs or vaccines. My administration would never force these things
on you. And I think you should say something like so. For all of you people that don't want to touch
a pharmaceutical products, a free country, you want to go out jogging, drink orange juice in the
middle of the pandemic, that's your decision. Remember, he wasn't wearing masks. He was trying to
open up. He had bureaucracy all around him. And yes, I would say the great failing in here was not
firing Fauci and all of the liars and scoundrels around him. But even he is saying now,
I really sort of, you know, I wanted to clean up the swamp. I didn't know I need to fill
thousands of positions. I could have done a better job. And look, you can ask for someone to,
you know, bend a knee and apologize and all those things. I don't think Donald Trump's
designed that way. But look at what he did do. This time around, he put together a group of rivals.
He brought in Robert Kennedy Jr., who he knows has issues with the COVID vaccine. That's not stopping him.
brought in Tulsi Gabbard, another Democrat, to talk about all the military that she wants to get involved.
Brought in Elon Musk to say, hey, help me get rid of all these cells. Run AI. Use AI to study the government instead of the people, the United States of America.
Go in and find out what the abuses of power are. Where's the money being robbed from us?
That's someone that I think is showing, by example, he's able to move forward, modernize, and take a different approach.
That's what I think is important in this conversation. Ask him to genuflex.
over an issue, it's not going to happen, and frankly, I don't care.
Robert Kennedy Jr. is about to have effect over the regulatory agencies, and that's what matters.
Next question.
Judah from Maryland.
What's your question?
Hey, Dale, how are you?
Very good.
How are you doing?
I'm doing great.
I've been watching you for years and a huge fan of the show.
I'll get rid of the question.
Great.
So is Bobby Kennedy likely to have a cabinet position?
like health department or something like that? And would you have any involvement in the Trump
administration? Great questions. I will say that, you know, one of the things that you can say
is Donald Trump has said publicly he doesn't like talking about things before the election is
over. He's superstitious that way. So really all of these conversations just started yesterday,
right? After the election, everyone started meeting and having conversations like that.
That is where the conversation is at with Robert Kennedy Jr.
Should he have a czar-like position?
Should he have a position actually in the government, in one of these regulatory agencies or something like that?
That is being bounced around the table right now.
That decision has not yet been made.
But when it's made, it will be announced by President Trump, as it should, and nobody else.
And I'm certainly not going to be involved in that.
I don't have a plan on being involved in government.
I don't know how I'd be able to juggle that.
and I don't think I'd legally be allowed to do this.
I don't really, I'm not inspired to walk away from the work that I'm doing here,
but I am allowed to be a part of the conversation about who I, you know, at least put into the hat,
people that I think would be really dynamic and spectacular in these regulatory agencies,
and I'm having some fun.
I had an amazing day yesterday where you pinch yourself.
I was in West Palm Beach in exactly those conversations.
So as always, I go where God guides me right now.
There's not a door open into politics, and I don't want one to open.
Don't get any ideas.
All right.
Next question.
Who we got?
Thank you.
Joanna from Oregon.
Say hi.
Johan, are you there?
Oh, yes.
Hi.
I didn't hear my name.
Okay.
Your team is amazing.
You guys absolutely made the difference.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Deep gratitude.
In the spirit of RFK Jr.'s parent's legacy of encouraging.
debate at the dinner table, would the High Wire be willing to add an education project with tools
specifically to help us bridge the divide with our family and friends who are still brainwashed by
MSM and a public forum for us to learn from each other's experience, but most importantly, to get
to the truth. Maybe it could be called Discerning Truth Dinner Campaign, weekly conversation,
topics, questions, facts, goal of seeking truth, critical thinking, finding common ground with a focus
on children's health and then a way to report back with this beautiful high wire community.
That is a really great idea. We're going to write that down. Those are types of things we look at.
You know, we've looked at can we create a game? Can you imagine a game that the family could all play?
What are things that we could do to start sparking the conversation around, you know, medical freedom,
especially? If it got into politics, again, that'd be hard for the high wire and I can to do.
so I'll leave that to, you know, something else, someone else is creating or maybe something else I get involved with.
But really around health, yeah, you're going to start to see a lot of this.
It's really why we're trying to expand and do things like off the record and do this high wire plus programming.
The hope being that we can get more of the people that are watching, more of the viewers to give them enough that they say,
you know what, I'll donate five or $10 a day because it's those donations that allow us to expand out and try other things.
like education and materials. We have a bunch, but they're all mostly for adults. We did put out
the incredible children's book that think is our most successful book out there. I'm unvaccinated,
and that's okay. So we are looking at children. I spent some time with Charlie Kirk and all the
work that he's done with Turning Point. I just toured his campus last week. It's incredible. And I did
get sparked a lot of ideas that they do like that, the interaction with the public, with children,
getting families, and get people to talk. It's a great idea. So for those,
Those of you out there, if you haven't donated yet, yeah, I think we have the type of team
that could do that really well, get Aaron and Siri.
How do we take this information that we can create discussions?
But one of the things I will say, and I'm very proud to say, is I get stopped by lots
of homeschool parents out there that say that, you know, the high wire is part of the curriculum
in their house, both on free speech but on the medical issues.
We're really proud to be part of, you know, creating conversations in those homeschool families.
All right, thank you.
Jenna, is it Jenna from Texas?
All right, Jennifer from Texas.
What's your question?
Hey, Del.
I am wondering if you think Fauci will be held accountable
under Trump and Bobby.
That's a good question.
I will say this.
There is so much that has to be done and so much
that has to go on.
There's thousands of positions that have to be filled.
The conversation right now is not, even though I like
mainstream media would like to say that, you know,
Trump is calling for retribution.
I mean, shocking from the networks,
that had done nothing but celebrate all the lawfare against President Trump,
all the ridiculous lawsuits, all the lawfair against Robert Kennedy,
all the lawsuits trying to get him off the ballot in the 50 states that he was on.
And then they say, Trump's going to go after, you know,
those that try to stop him as though like that's all they've been doing.
It's not, I wouldn't say it's a priority.
And I know I have said on this show, secretly,
I really do believe that Fauci committed crimes.
I think that that will probably be more in the attorney's
attorney's general position, somewhere there they'll have to decide. And maybe some of these
investigations that go on as transparency happens, right? What's got to happen is you've got to take
all the corruption out of these regulatory agencies. But here's what's going to happen. I can.
And the work that we do is not going to stop. In fact, it's going to be more important than ever
because now when we put in FOIA requests, we know that on the other side will be an administration
saying give them the truth, give them all the answers. I want to make this really clear.
Just because you take the government, the government is not actually allowed to just open up their books and say,
here you go and present information you're not asking for.
FOIA will still be the way that we find out all the lies, all the deceit, what they knew, what they didn't know.
But now we're not going to have redactions.
We're going to have heads of FDA, heads of CDC, heads of NIH to say, yeah, no, give that information in public.
We are now, we're now an administration that believes in transparency.
We are now going back to being led by the people for the people of the people.
So the people are asking, they're our boss, let them see the documents.
And that's where we'll see where this all leads.
And I would guess more likely it's going to be a private legal case that will find standing
in some way from the documents that I can produce.
When we start getting the truth of what happened, what did Fauci know, what did, you know,
Red Beale, what did all these people know?
What were they saying to each other?
You know, what was the science that they were looking at?
We're going to get to the bottom of that.
So if anyone brings the case, it may more likely be Aaron Siri.
and I can than the government itself.
But as I said, none of that's being converted.
It's not a part of the conversation right now.
There's too much to do.
All right.
Next question.
Christina from Florida.
Hi, Del.
This is Christina.
Hi.
Thank you so much for this incredible show.
I say that about so many of your shows,
but this one was just absolutely incredible.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
My question was one of curiosity with Bobby.
was it ever a consideration that he could be the VP with Trump?
It just would be such a sign of unity.
I just wondered that.
You know, one of the things that, you know, Bobby has said publicly and was true.
We did, there were like these, you know, these murmurs that would come from the Trump campaign
that he really wanted very early on to consider Bobby as VP.
Now, I was not inside the Trump campaign.
but there were people that would come and say they were representing the campaign, not so high up.
And we would say, was that real? Was they for real? Were they really connected? So I don't want to
put anything on the Trump campaign, but it did seem like we were being told by inside sources
that, you know, if there was a board, Bobby Kennedy was very high up on that board for VP.
And we were wondering when these meetings started happening. But it literally, remember,
that bullet grazed, you know, Trump's ear. I think it was the day before, was it not? Or maybe just a
couple days right before the Republican convention where President Trump had already selected J.D. Vance,
that's right when the meetings began. So I think really, if that was going to happen, it was too late.
You know, President Trump would have probably had to renege on whatever agreement he made.
Again, I am speculating here. We don't know. All I know is that's when that conversation began.
And really, I think that I'm not sure that that was ever an interest.
Robert, Bobby never really expressed interest in VP.
He really is where he wants to be because the VP ends up, you know,
it would have to be sort of redesigned in order to be involved with the regulatory agencies.
Bobby really said, if I'm going to do this, I want the regulatory agency.
So I think, though it would look great, it would be amazing the two of them standing together.
First of all, I think J.D. Vance has been amazing.
The debates have been amazing.
when you see him, you know, writing that letter rebuking Ireland.
I love things about JD that way.
So I think, you know, inside of this big divine plan,
which seems to be coming together beautifully,
everyone's exactly where they should be.
And that's what I would say on that.
Okay, next question.
Angie from Arizona.
Angie, hello.
Hi, Del.
Hey.
Thanks for having us.
You bet.
Hi.
Hello?
I can hear you.
Go ahead.
Hi.
First and foremost, I do.
I do have a question, but I have my daughter who wants to say something really quick to you.
Okay.
Hello, Mr. Del Victory.
I've been following you since I was four and now I'm eight.
I was there at the, what was you?
Defeat the mandates in Washington, D.C.
And when I was five years old, and thank you for helping with the children's children's
health defense. Thank you. And thank you for fighting for children. Oh, wow. Well, thank you. And I have to say,
you are very well spoken for eight years old. You hit all the talking points, the locations,
the names. It was very impressive, which means you're obviously, you know, very well educated by your
family. And if you're watching the high wire, that's certainly helping with that project. So keep up the
great work and continue speaking like you are. I think you sound like you could be a public speaker.
Maybe you'll have a job just like this someday. All right. What's the question?
I want to help you someday. Okay. I'd love that. My question is what I'm really excited about
is do you and Bobby have any plans to visit the 1986 Act and to reverse
it. You know, we've, and I can, we've looked at that fairly extensively, and I believe at
CHD, they have to. That is a very, as far as, if I'm correct, and Aaron, Syria, it'd be better
at answering it. But every time we've looked at it, that really doesn't sit in the purview of an
executive order. You have to get, it's a congressional, it's set up by the Congress, so the
Congress has to be involved in that process. So you'd have to,
start a campaign amongst, you know, the politicians and your representatives, that that's something
you want. That's really going to take more of a grassroots effort. It can't be just, you know,
dictated down, if you will, by executive order in some way. But it's also really not the nature,
I think, of how this is all going to happen. The truth is, is that we don't need some iron
fist to come in and start taking things away or moving, you know, how vaccines are
all of that.
The truth is, is what's really going to happen is just making the science transparent and
available.
Taking the databases that have been hidden from the world and say, no, these are your
databases.
All the names are redacted and allow scientists from universities and around the world
to look at, do comparative studies of over 10 million people, all their health records in
there.
How are vaccines affecting our lives?
I believe that through the transparency of science,
We, you know, it won't last long if you go in and just use a heavy fist to get your way,
which is how CNN and MSNBC and all these things are describing Bobby.
It's not who he is.
And frankly, we don't have all the answers.
We really don't know where, you know, vaccines and fluoride and pesticides and herbicides and chemicals and P-Fats and plastics and, you know,
where do all of these things link into these issues.
But we do have the databases capable of figuring that out.
We got Elon Musk along with us with some AI, and maybe Nicole Shanahan will jump in there.
So there's really talented people.
We've been blocked from doing the science.
So what we would like to see, I think, at least certainly what I'd like to see, and it's sort of one of the ideas that we're putting forward is let the science be what guides this.
So that people watch it in real time instead of just say, well, they just got their way.
No, you're going to watch science happen.
And through the transparency of science, the government will have to follow.
And that's what we're going to do versus like coming in and just sort of striking things and trying to get our way.
And we're going to let the science do the heavy lifting.
All right.
Margaret from Canada.
Margaret.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Hi.
Yes, from Ontario, Canada.
All right.
A great opportunity to be on.
So my question is, what was the turning point for you and understanding that Trump was the man of integrity,
and for the people and had the best interests of all Americans at heart?
It's a really good question.
I mean, I'll say as soon as the conversation started, you know,
Bob is relating to us on the team.
You know, President Trump is not really the person that I thought I knew in meeting him.
He just had really, really great interaction.
with him and also said the people around him. Bobby really loved Don Jr. said just a great guy and actually
they shared a lot of common interest. Don very much loves the environmental work. He's more,
sees it as conservation, which I think we've got to work on some of this languaging because if
conservative sees it as conservation and, you know, the left sees it as environmentalism is if we can
keep all of this, you know, sort of global terror away and say, don't we all want just clean water, rivers,
you know, want to be the evil, eat the fish coming out of the river,
eat a deer, it's not poison because the environment is somehow toxic, all those things.
So there was a lot of meeting of the minds there.
But it did come down to, I would say that obviously was the big question.
For those that know Bobby Kennedy and the work that he's done or watched this show long enough,
you know, even in the first 2017, right after President Trump was nominated the first time,
he had a meeting up in Trump Towers and offered Robert Kennedy Jr.
vaccine safety commission. Bobby was told to go in front of the cameras, did go in front of the
camera, said I've been asked to head a vaccine safety commission. And then just hours later,
the whole story changed and the administration said, oh, Bobby was mistaken. Bobby was very
upset about that. And by the way, carried that all the way into these conversations.
So over those weeks, he's like, I don't know, how can I trust him after it felt like I was
promised something was taken away. So the final day, we all went to Hyana's port. There was
family members. There was, you know, people from the campaign. And then really big thought
leaders, people that are like superheroes in the world. You know every one of them were zooming in
that couldn't make it there in person to give their thoughts on the subject. But what we all,
and I've said it before, you know, that we all brought our different perspective to the table.
And one thing that's beautiful about Bobby is he didn't want it easy. In fact, I showed up
that morning with like a spiritual sense it was the wrong move. I'll just say that.
someday I'll write a book and getting the details of what I shared with him, but I called him very early in the morning.
I said, Bobby, can I meet you beforehand? Because I just, you know, I'm not sure this is the right move,
but I don't want to say it in front of your family. I know that you're struggling to get them all aligned with you.
And I don't, he's like, no, no, well, he's like, meet me down the beach. I'm going for a swim.
So I met him on the beach. I laid out all of my issues. And he said, no, I want my family,
want everyone to hear. I want everyone to hear all of the ideas today. We're all going to decide this together.
And what I can say is this.
The biggest concern was, you know, can you trust President Trump?
But many people that had business dealings with him and knew him very well, said he is a man of his word.
He actually has followed through and everything I've done.
But here's what really did it for us.
As the day went along, we realized that there was other really powerful, great people.
Tucker Carlson was helping negotiate this thing between President Trump and Robert Kennedy Jr.
Say we want to see this happen.
Joe Rogan wanted to see this happen.
Elon Musk.
wanted to see this happening. These people were all in different ways, you know, weighing in. And so we realized, you know, this is a different moment. This isn't Bobby all alone in a room and comes out and someone can say, I never said that or that wasn't what was said. We realized that there was powerful thought leaders that were all in the room essentially saying, Bobby, we're going to stand with you. We're going to make sure this happens. And not that that was necessary, but that's what sort of, I would say, was the turning point where we realized, you know what, there's enough people that want this, enough people that, that
trust President Trump and that he trusts that we felt like that created a larger trust that
would make this happen. And that's where I think, that's what I think really turned the
corner. And then frankly, what other choice did we have? I mean, that is really the truth.
I mean, where else were we going to go? We recognize that day as we're looking at it. We are being
censored. I can't. I was like, no matter how great a video I'm making, we still can't get the
Democrats to see you. Baby boomers don't even know you're alive. There's no way for us to win this.
So you're either going to be a martyr or you're going to have to take a chance because Kamala Harris, even though Bobby offered it, was offering us nothing but ridicule and attack.
So she wasn't going to offer Bobby a position.
But President Trump was saying, I want to save children's lives.
And we did reflect on the fact that he'd made that point in his previous when he'd run in 2016.
So all of those things came together.
I feel like we felt like Trump was maybe a little bit softer, wiser person, maybe from the assassination.
fascination attempts, those things weighed in.
And I would say after making that decision and in the interactions and especially what just happened over the last couple of days and yesterday, this is really happening.
And I saw a lot of the fears.
There were concerns we had too.
I do not have those concerns now.
Who should be concerned are all of the corrupt entities that are inside of our regulatory agencies right now.
All of those people that have been lying on the news and spreading lies and dis and misinformation.
They better be concerned right now because there is a massive change coming into this government.
This is going to be a government by the people for the people.
And our regulatory agents are going to start working for us.
And that is only made possible by President Trump and a courage and a real dedication right now.
Because think about it, he wants to leave a legacy.
He only has four years to do it.
In many ways, the last four years were erased for all the different reasons.
He's got four years.
I think he sees that making America healthy again, having a recognizable difference,
will put him on the map forever.
All right.
Allie?
Ellie from California.
What is your question?
You know, I told them that I really just wanted to give you positive feedback more than anything.
I live in Silicon Valley, which is arguably the most blue part of the entire country.
and your show was like the number one thing that helped me to keep my sanity over the last four years.
I am so grateful to you guys.
You had so much really important information that I was able to put into a blog.
I made blog posts about all kinds of different topics that I learned from the high wire.
And one of those blog posts that I made was just a ton of information about why hydroxychloroquine work.
I had another blog post about why Ibermectin worked.
Both of those pages were completely taken down by Google, but then luckily I found out that they were actually archived on the Wayback Machine.
But just your information has been so important and valuable.
I was able to share it with many other people, and I just wanted to tell you guys, thank you so much for all the hard work that you've done.
It really has made a difference for so many people.
And especially being in Silicon Valley, it's like I am like one of the very few people who's kind of woken up in my era.
more and more people are waking up but there's a long way to go and and you guys are keeping me
saying so thank you so much thank you Ellie I appreciate that and by the way thank you for taking
that next step and sharing the information even writing yourself you know putting it together
that is what really makes a difference that's how this thing gets exponential that it's not just you
watching a show but you take that information and distributing it in in a way that you're moved
to do that that's all i can ask of everybody that watches the show and some people aren't writers
they aren't speakers, they find some other way.
But if we all just sort of really move on our instincts, move on what I would say, that door that
opens and say, you know what I think I could do?
Don't just think you can do it, do it.
And I love hearing that story.
Elliot's a great story.
Okay.
Athena from California, what is your question?
Yay.
Hi, Del.
Such an honor to talk to you.
It's good to talk to you.
Hi, so I'd love to the, thank you.
So I loved the previous eight-year-old caller because I'm sort of calling on behalf of the children.
So I wonder if even President Trump realizes this, but there's still kids across California who are kicked out of school like three and four years now because of our vaccine laws.
And I was wondering if you could speak to those families and offer us any hope if there's a possibility that something may happen at the federal law.
level to get these kids back in school. And as you're talking, like the thought that's coming to me
is executive order, federal funding, maybe cut off to any public school that does not allow for
religious, philosophical, and we don't really even have medical exemption here in California.
Yeah. Well, look, I know that President Trump did say that on the campaign. That was an idea
that he had was, you know, to poll public, you know, federal funding from public schools that
that don't allow you an option out.
I don't know if that's possible.
I don't know if he'll follow through on that.
And those are the types of things I think are going to be on the table where, you know,
there's things that you say, ideas that you have, can we implement that, or would that be the
best way to do it?
All of that, I think, are part of the conversations.
In that case, though, you know, we also cannot just expect the executive branch of this government
to fix all those issues.
I think in many ways I can is going to
get there faster. We are, you know, we did just win the university system. They now have
religious exemption. We are, you know, I don't talk, I've said it before, I don't talk about
all the lawsuits. We win little small lawsuits that are very specific, sort of death by a thousand
cuts, but they're all working to a larger issue. I also want to say this, that Perk, which is a
nonprofit that we work with and we, you know, do some work with, they're doing amazing work with
lawsuits and stuff specifically on that issue. So instead of, you know, hoping there's so much to do
inside the federal government and to be specific to a certain state on an issue, that may happen.
But right now, you really just need to support ICANN, those groups that are bringing the
lawsuits, because that's really the easier way to do this. I mean, when a president starts
affecting state law with it, like, you know, a heavy hand, in many ways it goes against, you know,
the ideas of liberty and certain libertarian values, conservative values, you'd like to use less of the government.
You'd like to get the government out of the way.
And so those are the things that you grapple with because you may get the fix in that moment,
but then you sort of set a precedence for bringing more federal powers upon things.
So those are the conversations that are happening.
It's not a bad idea.
I know President Trump said it.
I don't know how that will all play out.
I do know this.
everyone is aware that California has an issue.
It bothers everyone in this government right now that you don't have an option for your children.
And so that is being looked at in many different directions.
But I think in many ways, Aaron Siri is going to continue to battle there.
And as I said, the other states.
And one way or the other, that hope is in the future.
But I would say this.
If you live in a state where they're forced vaccinating your child, there's no bars on the edges of those states.
We left. I left my family. I left California when it started getting dangerous. I went to Texas.
There's plenty of states where you do not have that right taken away. I know it's hard to move. I know it seems scary.
But I would say, please, whatever you do, don't just do something to your children because you feel like you're trapped.
When I find, when I decide I have to do something, God does provide and helps make that happen.
So that's what I'd say there. Help is on the way. How fast, you know, we're working against you.
as fast as we can in many different ways.
All right. Next. Pierre from New Jersey.
Peter, Peter, from New Jersey.
Yes, I'm here.
Hi, Peter. What's your question?
Hi, Del.
Hi, Del. Thank you.
And thanks to the whole Highwire team for doing what you do.
Your efforts are really unique and amazing.
And I am convinced that one day we will win
and that the future looks bright.
Thank you.
My question is regarding CDC whistleblower, William Thompson,
I'm sure I'm not the only one wondering.
what the current situation is with him with the new administration.
Is there any hope of getting him to testify before Congress to tell his story regarding the fraud
with the CDC MMR studies?
You know, the truth is that he has tested.
He testified behind closed doors.
There's some things.
There's some nuance to this story, whether or not he wants to do that.
I've had a couple of conversations with him.
since making Vaxed. At first, he seemed very angry about Vaxed, but ironically, as we were
going to ASIP meetings and things, I had an opportunity to meet with him a few times. He actually
really does care about children. He cares about these issues, and every once in a while he'll send
me a little note of something that I should be looking for, something that maybe I'd be interested
in looking into. I think he's on the verge of retirement. I know he's considering should he
write a book and do things like that.
I, in many ways, I think that that hearing is something you do in order to try and bring attention
to the conversation.
There's a lot of issues around that hearing that I think we're already passed.
And frankly, it's like going and, you know, we have just jumped to a whole other level.
We're talking about being able to rebuild the regulatory agencies of the United States of America
and really just get to the bottom of the evidence that we know is there
and get it out to the people and make the change the need to happen.
That hearing was always a hope to try and spark something close to this.
I will tell you yesterday, I was saying to Aaron Siri,
in all of our plans, in all of our discussions about all the lawsuits,
and we had sort of like a 10-year plan, COVID clearly accelerated,
a lot of the work that we were doing.
But I said to Aaron, did you ever, like, we never had,
and after we've sued the, you know, the regulatory agencies
and bothered them for seven years, we'll just take over the regulatory agencies and put the right
people in power or in place to do good science. That was never, I would just say, that's crazy
talk. We are in a whole other world now. We're in another world. So going back to those were
attempts to try and get to something, I think it would be a step backwards in many ways. We're going to
get better, cleaner evidence and have real science done. I think that that will be more of the focus.
But William Thompson, if you're out there, you know, I'm saying hi.
And, you know, we will probably have a conversation with him about some of his ideas of how you would make CDC more effective.
How do we make sure a fraudulent study like the one done on MMR never happens again?
Thank you for your question.
All right.
Diane from Texas, what is your question?
Well, first of all, thank you for all that you do.
I do, love Jeffrey Jackson.
I do, too.
I would like to ask if you heard anything in regards to the agreement with who and practically giving up our sovereignty.
Did you hear any rumors about what might happen there?
With the WHO agreement.
I will say in the, you know, like I said, a lot of these conversations are only just beginning as of yesterday.
That hasn't come up in all the conversations that we've had.
I think there's sort of way too many nuts and bolts that are being dealt with right now.
But I will say, you know, let's remember that one of the things that President Trump did
do was defund WHO.
He pulled the funding that the United States of America had with the WHO.
We did a lot of reporting on that during his first term, and we were very excited about that.
And when America pulled the funding from the WHO, that
That made Bill Gates the number one funding body of the WHO, a very scary thought, more than China
or the other nations that were involved.
It's supposed to be a World Health Organization.
It really became the Bill Gates Foundation.
I would guess because what President Trump does talk about is he clearly doesn't like this whole
global push to sort of destroy our sovereignty.
I think that that's something that you'll see probably something similar to that with drawing
funds using a little more strength.
And frankly, I don't think any of us have to worry that over the next four years, somehow the WHO is going to overcome our sovereignty and our borders.
You just got a president that absolutely believes in having sovereignty and borders.
So I think we can all breathe easy for a moment.
Let's not take our eye off the prize.
And I think there's also something like 20 is a 24, 26 states attorney generals are pushing back.
Some states are saying we will never adhere to a WHO treaty.
So again, a lot of these things, you just want to inspire the states.
You want localized government to really be asserting their power here, too.
You don't want to just say it's all up to your federal government if it's not necessary.
But I think good days ahead on those issues, and we will make sure for certain.
I know Robert Kennedy Jr. will be making sure that Trump doesn't take his eyes off of that very problematic machine that wants to have its hooks in America.
Trump doesn't like that.
All right.
Lynn from Colorado, what is your question?
Hi, Del.
Hi, Lynn.
Thank you so much for everything.
And especially thank you for those of us canceled physicians for getting a voice in the last four years.
Yeah.
Can I ask you how much gratitude for you?
Thank you.
My question is a strategy question.
So the first thing, one of the first things, Trump.
in his former administration was to create a moratorium for polluters to what's called the toxic
release inventory so that they did not have to report their emissions.
What is the best strategy for us to prevent that from happening again?
Thank you.
Well, let me say this.
This is one of the things, and this is probably one of those spaces,
where, you know, when I talk to my friends, they're environmentalists and things like that,
and I consider myself still environmentalists, this is where you could have some disagreements with
President Trump, and you're allowed to.
And frankly, you know, Tulsi Gabb would say it, Elon has said it, Bobby said it, Trump.
We're not going to agree on everything, right?
We're not going to agree on everything.
But the things where we do agree, we are going to work hard at making those things happen.
You know, though Bobby is an environmentalist, he's here really to work in the agencies around health.
You know, not so much EPA or those spaces where he would have been strong.
And that was a conversation, but you kind of have to decide what sector you're going to go into.
And one thing President Trump has made very clear.
And when he's asked, and by the way, President Trump is going to come under massive assault for bringing Robert Kennedy.
It's already happening.
I think CNN last night just went on a tirade.
They are going to try to make this miserable for President Trump
that he's even associated with Robert Kennedy Jr.
is moving in this direction.
So kudos to that.
But one of the things he has said is, yes, Bobby is going to have a real place
inside of dealing and handling these regulatory agencies.
I want him to help make our children safer.
I'm just telling him one space he's not.
He's not getting his hands on that liquid gold.
He has said it over and over again.
Trump believes in energy.
He believes in rolling back regulations to make that happen.
But here's what I think is going to happen.
I do think that, though, there's going to be a concerted effort to have conversations around these things.
And President Trump is now surrounded by a lot of people, including, you know, even Don Jr., who I said is a conservationist.
And I think that one of the things that President Trump says is very important about these issues.
And I think having Bobby around, you could actually figure out better ways forward.
but we do do the things to get energy better than anyone, cleaner than anyone else in the world.
And one of the things that's always bothered me in the arguments with my friends that are environmentalists is like,
you shut down a coal mine here, you shut down a keystone pipeline here in America,
but then you just go and open and do it in another country, and we buy that energy from them.
And they're doing it dirtier, and it's still affecting the same atmosphere.
I mean, I'm sorry, the air is moving around the planet, so you didn't get rid of the problem.
You just hit it out of your sight, and really all you did was destroy it.
American jobs. So if it has to happen, if it's going to be done somewhere, it might as well be done
here is my mind in the best, cleanest possible way. And that's something that I think that you'll
see more of. And I think that, you know, I know for a certain President Trump doesn't want a poison
river. He says, I want clean water, want the cleanest water, want the cleanest air, want the cleanest food.
He wants utopia. He also wants this nation to be wealthy and prosperous, though, bring down our gas prices,
which will bring down our food prices.
I mean, honestly, Kamala Harris didn't have a single statement
on what you're going to do about the inflation.
Simply put, Donald Trump's like, that's a super easy thing.
You have energy.
If gas prices come down, your food, your distribution, your markets,
everything gets more affordable for everybody.
So whether you like it or not, that is an effective way to do it.
I will also say that I, you know, when we are poor,
we have no voice in the world.
We have no ability to be the beacons of light,
of environmentalism, of, you know, clean air, clean water, clean food.
You can't do it when you're broke and you're struggling.
So a lot of these giant attempts to jump to all electric cars is devastating our nation.
And we're losing our ability to have the power to be heard.
And if we lose our petro dollar, we lose the American dollar, forget about it.
You have got, you're not in the conversation at all.
You're never going to be able to make the world cleaner and healthier.
So I think that you have an amazing team right now.
I know that President Trump will do his best to use the cleanest ways forward to get that energy,
but he is going to go after that.
So I wouldn't expect you're going to see a huge difference in his perspective of regulations,
except that, you know, Bobby calls himself a free market environmentalist.
It's not his space.
But he'll probably say, hey, you know, Trump, check out this technology.
Those are the types of things they're going to see happening because these guys like each other.
And these people are like really actually having very neat, you know, intelligent conversations with each other.
And so I look forward to seeing, do we see an adjustment?
I'm probably as curious as you are on that topic.
All right.
Oh, my God.
All right.
All right.
We have 750 people waiting, I guess, to answer questions,
which means I'm going to be here until 3 o'clock in the morning, you know.
Richard from New York.
What's your question?
Hey, hi, Del.
I'm a huge fan.
I just want to let you know.
And a sustained giver for over two years now.
And I was just made aware that the U.S. Department of Agriculture, they gave the green light for our MRI vaccines and animals, our food supply.
Is that true?
You know, anything be done about that?
I'm not quite up on that.
I probably be better Jeffrey Jackson question because he's doing those deeper investigations on the specifics of those issues.
We have been watching MR-intanate technologies moving into livestock, whether or not that's mandated or in the system.
You're obviously looking at some document I'm not looking at right now.
It's absolutely a concern if it isn't already in its seconds away from being implemented.
And those are the types of things.
What was the safety studies?
Who did the study to see if there's any downline transfer of issues, of toxins, of DNA changes?
What does it happen when people eat that?
food supply. You and I both know those studies haven't been done. You're about to have
regulatory agencies that are going to make sure that those studies were done and at the very
least are going to put out documents and let the public know there is a product that is
out there currently that has these issues. You know, what will they withdraw products that? I mean,
I think that that's going to have to be a conversation they figure out because again, you want
the science to make the difference and we want informed consent to be what drives us, right? Let the
people decide for the most part. There's places where that crosses over, but we should be worried
about those things. They are moving into livestock, and they're also talking about highly infectious
vaccines in humans and in animals. And imagine those things floating around, basically man-made
viruses. We have a lot of work to do to shut the stuff down, but those are the exact things
that Bobby Kennedy is going to flag. He's going to be putting people in positions at NIH, at CDC,
at FDA, making sure that those things are flagged.
And we'll get to the bottom of it.
And I think you're going to see a really different approach to just releasing these things,
you know, willy-nilly upon humanity and then hoping it all turns out, okay, great question.
Pam from Colorado, what is your question?
So, first of all, thank you so much.
You bet.
How are you doing, Pam?
Help freedom.
Good.
So doing great.
My question is actually twofold.
The first one and probably the most critical one,
especially considering all the great ads that you did for Bali,
is now that the election's been won,
there's a bigger issue, which is China and all the other places right now
are going nuts creating negative media.
What is it that you see that you can be doing to help out this transition team
as they're trying to get up and running to keep the positive message
going because I'm a little concerned about between now and when we actually get
to the inauguration, there's a lot going on there.
Second question is, Catherine Austin says, just did a great piece today talking about
digital IDs, which have been implemented across 60% of the country already.
Yep.
Is Robert F. Kennedy aware of the dangers of what's happening with digital identification
and how it actually puts us into that stranglehold of loss of freedom?
Thank you.
Robert Kennedy Jr. is absolutely and definitely aware of those issues. Once again, I think that those are going to fall more outside of his purview and probably a little bit more in Tulsi Gabbard's purview, which is national security and how we do it. And she is really, really not into authoritarian governments and controls over people. So I think that if anyone's looking at that, I'm, you know, I don't interact with her as much. I have seen her speak. I honestly think the
next female president or the first female president will be Tulsa Gabbard. I have a very strong
feeling about that. Being around her, she's dynamic. I don't know when she'll decide to make that
move, but she's incredibly around. I know that she's looking at issues like that. Again, these are
smart people in a room just like us, just like, you know, and Bobby's had, he does his own speeches,
CHD's done their own investigations that he's been a part of. These people are all aware
of things like that they're having those conversations. I'm throwing those conversations in
I'm going to make sure that they continue to look at that.
As far as you're absolutely right, I still have, I'm still have Maha Alliance.
There's also a C4 attached to that work.
And because we're through the campaign, I wasn't allowed to talk to Bobby Kennedy,
really once I started a super PAC.
They're not allowed to communicate with the campaign.
Now the campaign's over.
We are back in communications.
And one of the things I was saying yesterday is we are going to need to be making media
because there's going to be an absolute assault upon President Trump,
upon Bobby Kennedy, upon Tulsi Gabbard,
because they're going to try and make it seem like our government is under attack the way they do.
They're going to spread lies and misinformation.
One of the things that Bobby's talking about,
they'll go through with it.
They've said it publicly is removing direct-to-consumer marketing.
The pharmaceutical industry, it's only in the United States of America and New Zealand
that you're allowed to advertise to consumers' pharmaceutical products.
If President Trump, and we have with this, he could, by executive order, remove that.
If he does that, you remove about 50 to 70 percent, depending on the time of year and what the programming is of the advertising dollars from television.
What that will do is when you watch these lies in propaganda, and obviously it wasn't enough to, they don't have enough followers anymore to win an election, that shows how weak they've become.
But they've gotten away with it because they don't need our money.
They don't actually need all of our attention.
they get paid anyway by the pharmaceutical industry.
If you take that money away, suddenly their viewership will matter again.
And telling stories and telling the truth and doing real investigations will matter again.
And by the way, all the reporters that I know that are there inside of those news agencies,
like some, I have two here that I stole from CBS.
I left CBS.
There's a lot of us in there.
You just aren't allowed to move or do the work.
You're not allowed to tell the story.
And you get frustrated about it.
And you throw your papers down and books every once in when you storm out of offices because you're so frustrated.
Imagine if suddenly your news agency is like, well, no one's telling us not to do that story anymore.
So go ahead and do it because people seem interested in it.
That is going to be as huge change.
I'm not sure if that's going to happen.
It's something that would have been on Bobby Kennedy's first day.
Is that something President Trump's going to do?
I guarantee you that conversation is happening.
So that's one thing that could happen.
But I'm not going to stop.
I am going to continue to wear several hats.
You know, I, you know, I've now gotten used to doing several things at one time.
I think we are doing the best high wire shows of all time,
have the best team around this.
And I want to make this clear to everybody.
Highwire is always going to be here.
This is here to stay.
We love this vehicle.
We love what is doing.
We love the lawsuits that we're bringing.
I can has got to continue that work.
So I'm not going anywhere.
This isn't going anywhere.
You're just going to, you know, I remember like when I sent out that post this morning.
Someone's like, one of the comments was like, Del, you look knackered.
Maybe just a day off.
Maybe that's the case.
But I am going to continue to work with the campaign outside of the high wire,
outside of the, again, not funded by ICAN or the highwire,
but you're right.
We're going to continue to do media to spread a positive message about what is happening
in this great transformation of our regulatory agencies and our government.
government back to what our founding fathers dream it should be. Great question. Next question.
Luke from Ohio, what is your question? Hey, Dale, how's it going? I love you guys. You're doing
God's work. Thank you. My question is, the highway is incredible, but it's kind of under the radar.
You've got to know about it, to know about it and come through it. Have you ever considered or see a path
to the highway ever also airing on some kind of linear network or network so it's in front of
of more eyeballs people can kind of stumble upon it that aren't already converted maybe like a
Merritt Street media comes to mind and also have you checked them out at all what do you think about
what Dr. Phil's going over there at Merritt Street you know I worked for Dr. Phil my career starts
with Dr. Phil I was a producer on the Dr. Phil show that's how I got my start in television he
went on to create the doctors television show which I moved there I won an Emmy Award
there I you know I love a lot of that team
And when I was traveling around with Robert Kennedy Jr., he did some great interviews with Dr. Phil.
And it was a really cool experience to see the incredible studio that Merritt Street.
And Dr. Phil has built just down the road in Dallas, Texas from us.
Amazing.
A lot of my old friends and producers were there.
It's a thought.
It's something that comes up.
But again, as soon as you, it's going to be an advertising-based space.
and we like to do more dangerous stories than advertisers tend to like.
And so every time we talk about like, how would we do it?
Who would accept us?
And how long would we last there before you start being told, hey, love what you do,
but you just can't cover that topic any longer.
That's what keeps us moving in that direction.
We have discussed.
What if we just did an hour, like a cleaner, one hour version, you know,
in maybe a more viable space?
up until recently, I think that, you know, I mean, thinking all the work we did through COVID,
we were sort of considered that crazy anti-vaccine group. As you know, that language is changing a lot.
And obviously, a lot more people are waking up to this. So I am going to work to start doing more
appearances on mainstream media to move in that direction. Something we've never done either is the
high wires never had any advertising. Everything we've done, the millions of dollars we raise every year that
goes to funding all the legal cases is simply because you told your friends. And we've done
really well there. But one of the focuses right now is how do we spread our message to all the
people. I mean, think about it. How many, if 75% of the people are refusing to get their next
booster shot, I think they'd be interested in watching the high wire. But certainly the 30% of
America that didn't get any shot at all, it's amazing how many of those people I run into,
like, I don't know who you are. That's shocking. I think we're going to work to do a better job
to let them know the high wire is here.
And if you can let your friends and family know,
especially those that are maybe just on the other side of the fence,
but starting to balance there, please share the high wire.
But, you know, again, if we could get more funding,
we could get, you know, a little bit more advertising going, things like that,
where we can help spread this message further.
So those are some things we're looking at.
It's great question.
Next question.
Robin from Iowa.
Hello, Robin.
Hi, Robin.
Hi.
Thank you so much for taking my call.
This is wonderful. We've been watching you and listening to you for years. We love you and Jeffrey.
We love what your whole staff does, the people behind the scenes. It's just wonderful.
I've been trying to educate all my friends and my family with quite a bit of resistance at times.
But my question to you, sir, is, will we ever see a live interview with Mr. Fauci?
Like me doing it? I would, look, I have reached out to all this.
Tony Fauci knows that he, the offer is always a standing offer.
He can walk in. I will stop. I will stop. I'll push any guests aside. Come in live. I'll move you right
into the seat. That would be a bucket list moment for me. I have extended. I've sent emails to
Paul Offutt to do that interview. And Paul, I never get a response from Tony Fauci, but I do get
responses from Paul Offent. He's like, I appreciate the offer. I think I'll pass now.
Something like that. And the truth is, you know, I think that those interviews, and I dream that
those do happen someday, I think they'd be a lot different than certainly those people would
expect, and probably more than most of our viewers would expect. I mean, when I interviewed Neil deGrasse
Tyson, you know, it's, I really am curious. I'm not out to like, you know, gotcha somebody.
I'm curious why they think, I am fascinated by what makes Fauci tick. I'd probably spend a lot of
time in spaces that would be boring to the audience, maybe, but I really ask, I'm very curious
about why he does feel the way he does,
why he makes the decisions he makes.
Less than just trying to like nail you to the wall.
Somebody else can do that.
That's what courtrooms are for.
I'd be more interested in what makes him tick.
Same thing with pull off it.
These people, I have to believe,
I believe most of these people mean well.
I think they think they're trying to save children.
How is it they're not seeing the data the same way that I am?
So again, I'm going to put that offer out there.
I think they would find it was pleasant.
But I think they are afraid.
There was a lot.
I think Neil Grass Tyson just got hammered by all the signs saying,
what are you doing going on Del Beatry?
Don't you?
No one's, you're not equipped to handle that guy out of coverage.
Like they were literally telling him he wasn't equipped to have a conversation with me.
I find that fascinating.
So I'd love it.
Bouchie if you're out there, let's do it.
All right.
Jennifer from Vermont.
Thank you for your sacrifice and all your hard work.
My family left Massachusetts and purchased beef.
farm in Vermont in 2021 at the following of my two teenage son's dreams to become farmers.
We wanted to bring healthy, nutritious food to our communities and educate them along the way.
Do you foresee that there will be a space to involve small family farms in the Maha movement?
And if so, how might that look and what can we do to be a part of that?
Well, that is a very, very big conversation that was being discussed yesterday amongst really beautiful
powerful, wonderful people.
And, you know, just for, I mean, I'm not, I have to be careful, obviously, about what I'm saying.
Everything's confidential.
But one of the things you don't think about it, and it is difficult, is when you think about, like, forget, it's like the Secretary of Agriculture.
And these are things that I never contemplated until I was sitting in the room going, wow, I never really thought of that.
First of all, one of the conversations we were having yesterday is the Secretary of Agriculture, you really, when you're, we were looking at candidates, you will have a
candidate that is a rancher and they have a huge background in ranching and hopefully they've done
some work in policy because it just ranching is one thing but understanding how policies work and
how the different states all line up and you know how they're all different in dealing it's a it's a
mess it's a quagmire but great rancher what do they know about you know farming vegetables like
they're not even really in the same world and so like oh my god right so if you have a secretary
of agriculture that's only, you know, ranching, then what happens to the farming? Well, is farming more
important? These are the conversations I found really fascinating. And then while you're fascinating with that,
you have somebody that's like really has great ideas for, you know, organic farming, for smaller
farms and really pushing those family farms along and how that has to happen. But what will they know
about like the larger ranchers and the system? So this is what makes, you know, those choices,
is very difficult because you really don't have very many individuals that sort of understand
all the different sectors and how to help them. Now, of course, you have down the line,
there's places that can get more specific, and that's what is being looked at right now.
Do you, you know, take the rancher, but you put the farmer over here, and then you have the
small family farm representation. I saw a post that Joel Salatin is being considered. I didn't
hear his name. I mean, again, these are things like I watched his post. He'd be great. I think
God, Jill Salad, that'd be cool.
I mean, whether he'd want it or not, I have no idea.
But I did see that all over the Internet.
And that's another thing.
There's a lot of, I don't know if I'd call it misinformation, hopeful thinking.
But those are the conversation going on inside the government.
But regenerative agriculture is a top priority for Cali means, Casey means.
Nicole Shanahan talks about it a lot.
So that is on the table how we start, you know, helping, you know, farms move in those directions.
all the big ag control, the big food control over these farms, that's what's going to be taken away.
So there's a lot of interesting conversations happening there.
I'm not sure there's any immediate answers, but those are the types of things.
Remember, we had a whole meeting that was explaining to a lot of the people, here's how this works.
Like, here's what you're about to do is you tried to, you know, create these positions, which I found fascinating.
because there's a lot of people in there that are sort of brand new with great intentions,
but you have to figure out, like, you know, how this works.
I can't imagine what Trump was going through the first time, you know, as, you know,
he himself has said, you know, you didn't realize you had to fill thousands of positions.
So it's on the table.
Great conversations going on about that topic specifically.
All right, next question.
Yeah, let's, I think we'll cut it off the top of the hour, which will probably make this one of the longest shows
in the history of the high wire.
I'm really enjoying this, actually.
we're going to do this more often. So let's take a few more. We got, you know, just over 10 minutes.
And for those of you still hang with us, I hope you're enjoying it. I certainly am. And for those,
let's let's get to the next question. Kathy from Colorado. Hi, Del. Thank you so very much for what
you're doing. My question is, do you foresee in the future? I think the phrase follow the money
is very true today about the vaccines and just so many different areas of sort of investigating
why the mainstream media all have the exact same lines and who's funding that and how many
of those people are kind of in the pockets of the pharmaceuticals and etc.
Yeah, look, I think that's a really important question.
and those investigations, right?
I mean, that's why it's hard to do those investigations.
Bobby Kennedy has his own private lawsuit right now for being censored.
And it's moved forward, you know, against the Biden administration, a judge in that saying that, you know, the censorship of Bobby Kennedy is one of the, you know, the worst cases of an attack on free speech that they've seen.
So there'll be, that private sector is always looking at those things.
But ultimately, this is where I think Elon Musk is very interesting, right?
And this is where, you know, you're never going to stop AI, you know,
but it'd be great if we can keep AI from, like, watching everything we're doing.
I think it's great for watching what the government's doing.
And I think that they should be very nervous when arguably one of the greatest inventors,
maybe one of the smartest guys in the world is saying,
I'm going to take AI, and we're going to figure out where the money is being spent.
That right there is going to start doing an investigation that, you know,
human beings couldn't probably do as well. It's a perfect use for AI. And then imagine when your
FOIA requests and things that we've looked for those sort of trails, you just get these redacted
to get, you know, moving around and hiding from it. If you have regulatory agencies that are
open to the public saying, yeah, ask us whatever you want, I think you'll see a lot of those
things open up faster. So those are definitely things I think you're going to see. How's that money
coming out of government? Is it coming out of government? How's it being spent? And then what are
these networks doing and is it fair and is it really the correct use of taxpayer funded airwaves
which is what they're purchasing if they're lying to us why are we giving them our airwaves
because they're ours not theirs uh that is that is something we're talking about right now too all right
next question michel from texas oh my gosh hi del how are you i'm great how are you doing
i'm doing well my gosh i can't believe i'm actually talking to you it's so crazy um
Not as crazy as my life, Michelle.
I guess that's true.
I guess that's true.
Is there a plan with RFK and Trump to end direct-to-consumer marketing?
I talked about that earlier.
That's something that Bobby.
Yeah, Bobby definitely is interested in that.
I know that there, that's been brought up that, you know, he's talked about it.
I know that that's something he's talking to President Trump about.
I think it's a great idea.
Let's see what happens.
And, you know, in a lot of these, you don't want to show all your cards.
I'm only saying because Bobby already showed that card.
And frankly, I was like, those are things like being his director of communication.
Like, Bobby, I wouldn't have led with that.
I mean, you're trying to get on television as a Democrat.
You're telling him I'm going to cut your funding by removing direct to consumer marketing.
Not maybe the smartest thing to come out of the gate.
I think he literally said it in his announcement speech.
I was like, well, we just made it harder for us to get on television by doing that.
But that's Bobby.
You can't hold him back.
He says what he believes it feels.
And it would be a huge game changer.
So there's going to be a lot of thought around that.
So, yeah, look out for it.
All right, next question.
Oh, one more question.
Oh, wait, I have one more question.
It's really quick.
Who can do more pull-ups?
You or R.K. Jr.?
I'm a dead honest with you.
I'm mopped the floor with Bobby kidding.
No, I'm kidding.
All my staff does it.
I'll be dead honest.
I could piggyback on Bobby Kennedy on his shoulders,
and he'd still do more pull-ups than I would do on my own, guaranteed.
He's in incredible shape.
And it's amazing to think,
can we have someone that's like actually working in our health agencies
and running our health agencies that's healthy himself?
I think that that's very important.
And, Frank, I'll be honest with you,
in juggling all that I've done, one of the things that's been very difficult is traveling,
keeping it all going, and not getting to the gym, eating in airports, eating this.
So I have a few pounds that I want to lose if things could settle down just a little bit.
But I need to get back to work there because we are all talking about health.
It's very important that we watch out for our health as we, you know,
as this becomes the most important conversation in the country.
Great question.
Mary Ann from Texas.
Hi there.
Hi, Marianne.
Can you hear me?
Yes, I can.
Hi there.
I'm from Perisco, and I was introduced to you by my dear friend Laura Chalick,
Bless her heart.
She's smiling down from heaven right now.
Indeed.
Yes, so my question to you, and I'm so thankful for you and Jeffrey and the staff,
I wanted to add.
And so my husband and I have recently become great, have become grandparents.
And we're somewhat walking the proverbial high wire with the best intentions of balancing remaining respectful without, you know, damaging our relationship with my son and my dear daughter-in-law.
And we've sent them videos from your show.
We've sent them the website from Aaron Surrey.
We have, Polly actually gave us the Vax, the unvaxed Vax book, and we're trying not to overwhelm them.
Yeah.
But now our grandson is four months old and he's heading into that four month old appointment.
So we're wondering, I'm wondering, is there a particular video or something that we can share with them that might help them a little more easily to make that.
informed choice.
I think the best video, and let me ask you this.
Are you getting, are they receptive at all?
Are they just like, please, we believe in vaccines, stop doing this?
Are they like, okay, I mean, give me a scale of 1 to 10, how open are they to the conversation?
They have seemed receptive to the information that we've spent.
I think they have some influences where they're best friends.
They have one who is their doctor and another best friend who works for public health and had worked for the CDC.
So I think they are hearing both sides, which I think is great.
So on a scale from one to ten, I think I would guess maybe a five.
I think they're on the high wire.
Okay.
So I would say one of the videos that I just looked it up, Bernardine,
on our website, the Bernardine Healy video.
I actually just sent this to a New York Times reporter today on the plane that was asking me questions.
I said, you know, and it's a reporter that I'm starting to develop a decent relationship with,
and I feel like to start and listen more and more.
But I send that a video every time I can.
It's the former head of the NIH, Bernadine Healy.
And I want to make a note to my team.
I actually want the longer version to be put up.
We have the shorter version there right now.
But either way, it always works.
because what you see is the former head of the NIH saying that the proper studies haven't been done around the safety of vaccines and talks about autism a little bit.
And I asked this reporter, if you're right, when you say the experts are right, why is this expert, why did this expert say this?
And we're talking about one of the biggest experts there ever was former head of the NIH.
I think that that video is really great.
And I would say, like, maybe one of my favorite shows we ever did was the show on the WHO meeting that happened in Geneva, Switzerland, at the end of 2019.
So right at the end of 2009, before the pandemic, they all met in Geneva and had this giant WHO meeting where the video cameras were rolling.
That show particularly, we go through things that they say behind closed doors, and I play the videos.
because what I think is important for people like that that are talking to doctors
is that they don't hear my opinion,
that they actually hear the opinion of people that say they believe in it.
And the things that they admit when they don't realize that the cameras are rolling.
That's sort of the best I could say right now.
I would go, yeah, there it is.
Who is lying to you, episode 1.45?
It's a long one, but it's super interesting.
And all I do is keep throwing to the different statements being made by the world
renowned scientists themselves and it is shocking and I think that your loved ones will find
that shocking too and then find the Bernadine Healy interview done by Cheryl Atkinson.
That's only like a four minute video. It's really, really shocking. I and I will always say I think
the best film ever made for the beginning of this conversation is Vaxed. And that's not because
I made it. I'm very proud of it, but it's how people react to it, doctor, scientists. There's something
about that film that really captures people. Of course, you know, they went on to make Vax 2 and Vax 3,
which are great films, but they didn't really plant this, they didn't start with the sort of how
this all happened. And Vax is really great at that. So I always say to people, if you only do one
thing, invite your family members over, say, have some popcorn. I'm going to sit you through a 90-minute
movie, take it or leave it. That's all I'm asking for 90 minutes. If you're not fascinated or want
any information after that, let it go. That's what I would say. All right.
All right, last caller.
We will do this again.
This has been a lot of fun.
And frankly, the technology was a lot smoother than I expected to be.
Sarah from where?
Wisconsin.
Yay, Wisconsin.
Well done.
Very important state.
I've been very focused on Wisconsin in the last several months of my life.
So, Sarah, what was your question?
I actually didn't have a question.
I just wanted to get on.
and thank you guys so much.
You and Bobby Kennedy and everybody who is in your side of the discussion and debate and the
openness and everything.
I'm a mom of six at homeschool and you guys have been a lifesaver for us.
Just opening up discussion for my kids and, yeah, it's just been wonderful just to have that
hope and to see that play out.
And I'm just so excited to see what the next few years are going to look like.
I agree.
It is a really beautiful, auspicious, hopeful moment.
Something really beautiful is happening.
And I just really hope for the half of the country that, you know, maybe feel really upset about this.
All I can say is you have Democrats that haven't left you that still carry the values of John F. Kennedy, of Robert Kennedy, that are now inside of this government.
Your values have not been lost.
In fact, I think that they are going to be more recognized than they've ever been before.
and those values of freedom, of freedom of speech, of women's rights, of children's rights,
of family's rights, of sovereignty, of body autonomy, making your own choice for yourself,
being properly informed, all that's coming your way.
I know you've been spun to think it's negative.
I think you're going to watch this world become a bigger, brighter, more beautiful place,
and that will be unavoidable, especially with the people that are working on it.
And so I want to thank everybody for this great opportunity.
I want to thank my team for making this technology work.
It was on a whim.
I said, you know what?
I feel like I kind of just want to handle all these issues and a lot of questions right now.
As I said, we'll do this again.
I want to thank Jeffrey Jackson, who stepped in.
I was really buried last week.
I mean, there was a lot going on.
And I just, you know, we managed to hold the show together through all of it.
But I just said, I'm going to blow out.
Jeffrey, can you come in here?
Really on a short notice, did such a spectacular job.
Really proud of that show.
I'm so psyched that he went viral.
I mean, it couldn't have happened to a better person.
But, you know, as always, he did an off the record.
He sat in the off the record sofa with that incredible scientist.
And believe it or not, I believe that there was breaking news that even happened off the record that wasn't covered in the show.
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that we're really, really excited about. There's been a lot of work going into that. So you
better, you know, get in here. The water's warm. We're all having a lot of fun. I want to thank
all of you for taking this time with us today. I want to thank all of you that make this possible.
I mean, really, I feel so incredibly blessed.
It's only because, you know, I made Vax, but they could have been one documentary.
And then I, you know, we started this nonprofit.
It started with just, you know, a very small handful of donors that were trying to help us make the world a better place.
But now thousands and thousands and thousands of you have helped this grow into such a powerful instrument of change.
And because of that, you put.
me in a position where, you know, I get to now stand and have peers like Robert Kennedy, Jr.,
and Tulsi Gabbard, and these things. I can't thank you enough for that opportunity that you've
made possible for me and all of my team that has made all of this possible, and we just find
ourselves in this really incredible place. I do want to say, because I don't want to, like,
I don't want to overstate what's going on. I'm not in government. I'm not technically on a transition
team. There are meetings I am not in. A lot of meetings I'm not in. But I do feel blessed to know the
players and I am getting to have some thoughts moving forward. But I don't want to create some
impression that I'm like, you know, some giant power player. Bobby Kennedy is that power player.
And he deserves to be that power player. And there's no one better educated, better poised
to deliver and to handle himself in the rooms and the rooms I've gotten to see him working,
it's absolutely spectacular.
And what I can say about this journey that this is, again, my specific journey,
Del Batree, not funded by ICAN or the highway or anything, is, you know,
they say you should never meet your heroes.
But I spent 18 months with Bobby Kennedy by his side and working with him,
and I am more in awe of him now than when we start.
You have a really, truly spectacular individual that's now a part of the U.S. government in a way that will matter, in the way that's most important to him.
And he's figuring out what that is, and he has a brilliant partner in President Trump that is making that possible.
And other great thought leaders like Elon Musk and Tulsi Gabbard.
So for all of you out there, I know why you've asked the questions.
You're allowed to ask the questions, but this is a time for positive energy.
Now we need to start praying for these individuals.
We need to, you know, guide for these individuals.
We've got to start bringing people to the idea that real change is possible here
and not try to look for every flaw.
There's going to be plenty of negativity coming their way.
It certainly shouldn't be from those people that they've represented.
You know, I watched a lot of conversations about Bobby Kenny.
Why does he stop talking about bags?
He just left us all alone.
Frankly, I don't know how you can say that.
This is a guy that spent, you know, over a decade being dragged through the mud.
He's at Kennedy.
He could have been like gifted, you know, in many ways the crystal cathedral and the golden
road right into politics if he would have just done what he was told.
If he would just shut his mouth about this very controversial subject, his world would
have been so easy.
He never walked away from us, ever.
And so then in the moment where Maha suddenly expands and we're bringing in, you know,
food additives and those discussions in literally doubling the size of this movement almost
overnight to watch people say, oh, he's left us, I can't believe in this, I don't believe
this is really going to happen.
I don't understand that.
Like I really don't.
You're allowed to ask questions, but at least look at someone's track record.
Why would someone spend as long as he did getting kicked in the teeth suddenly to walk away?
Maybe there's a little strategy.
Maybe it's like, look, we want to win an election.
and frankly, why go to the hardest part of this topic?
Because once we open up these regulatory agencies, once we open up these databases for all the world to see, all the answers will be illuminated.
Whether it's your food, whether it's your water, whether it's your air, whether it's lies, whether it's the media, whether it's censorship.
We've got to have hope right now.
It's our job right now to reach out to those Democrats, those friends, those liberals that should be so excited right now.
have been told they have a demon in office and they cannot get their heads wrapped around it.
We have work to do.
We need to come together as a nation.
We have a spectacular moment to realize this dream of the United States of America that was gifted to us by God and protected for us by our founding fathers, by our Constitution, by our Bill of Rights.
This is a moment for hope.
and it's going to have to be hopeful.
And we have work to do to lift up the light and keep the light on this
because the darkness is going to try to take this down.
It's going to try to manipulate our friends and our family members
and make them terrified of something they should love.
You're needed now.
I hope today the reason I want to do the show is you must believe
in what's already happening.
Just frankly, the conversations you're seeing on your news,
you should say that was almost enough for what was happening.
I certainly was never going to see that in the other administration.
Start celebrating every incremental step that's moving in the right direction
instead of being pissed off because somehow it's not meeting your agenda or how you would do it.
I get it.
You're allowed to have an opinion.
But right now, these individuals are putting their lives literally on the line for us.
I'm lucky that I know these people.
They're beautiful people, and this is a beautiful opportunity in America.
We're all blessed.
Revel in it.
Celebrate it.
Share it.
Talk about it.
And I'll see you next week on the High Wire.
