The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 414: FOWL PLAY

Episode Date: March 8, 2025

Is there a link between Bird Flu and gain-of-function research?; Jefferey Jaxen reports on new disturbing COVID spike protein science, and Makary and Bhattacharya face the Health Agency Nominee fire; Del addresses Recent RFK Jr measles Op-Ed; New Film tells the story of the silenced.Guests: Peter A. McCullough, MD, MPH, Matthew GuthrieBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Yeah. Let's do this. Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time to step out onto the high wire. Well, it's been a super interesting week. We've got a measles outbreak here in Texas. We were talking about it last week.

And now Robert Kennedy Jr. at HHS Secretary has put out an op-ed that has everybody buzzing from all sides proving truly you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. I'm going to get to the bottom of that op-ed later on in the show. But first, let's talk about the other outbreak that is killing all of our chickens and taking away all of our eggs. Of course, I'm talking about the bird flu. Take a look at this. Bird flu is wreaking havoc on egg production. For weeks, the cost of eggs has dominated the conversation. On farms nationwide, bird flu is spreading like wildfire among livestock as the outbreak reaches a very critical point.

According to the National Chicken Council, egg laying hens account for 77% of the poultry affected by the virus. The Department of Agriculture is now warning that Americans could see the price of eggs spike more than 40%. infected with bird flu and one person from Louisiana died from the disease. But the outbreak has prompted millions of chickens across the country to be killed in order to contain the virus. So far, more than 162 million poultry birds infected by the virus since the start of 2022. The result, dozen eggs, now averaging $8, more than tripling since just last October. You're seeing the entirety of the chicken house killed, right? But then you're still having interactions with wild birds that are coming into the chicken house.

and then spreading the avian flu. It's a big problem and it's not an easy one to solve. Well, it's an issue we've been talking a lot about. We're culling hundreds of millions of chickens, obviously driving up the price of eggs, probably chicken and other things. But I wanted to get into this. One of the great scientists and doctors out there

that's been discussing this in detail is Dr. Peter McCullough, if he joins me now. Dr. McCullough, thank you for taking the time today. Thank you. There's just so many sides to this story right now. But number one, let's just start with culling birds. This is something that happened in England, has had moments where they coaled all their animals and found out that, you know, their charts and science was wrong.

I just heard that, you know, farmers are paid for every chicken that they kill as long as it doesn't end up testing positive for avian flu, which it seems to, you know, inspire farmers to kill their chickens prior to seeing an infection or very early on. I don't know if that's true. But we could end up hurting our food supply. And the question I have is, does it, is there a herd immunity we should be thinking about with animals? And if we're killing every animal that's getting infected, how do those animals ever get to herd immunity? That'd be, I think, where I'd lead out with this. Let me say, Del, that bird flu has been around for many decades, probably well more than

a hundred years documented in a review by Lysette and colleagues. And so in the absence of anything else in a bad bird flu season, you know, some birds succumb to the illness and then others develop immunity. And because the birds are not all on the same time schedule, there is this kind of Venni diagram of herd immunity and a typical viral outbreak would last about two years. That's about what it is. Now, our research at McCullough Foundation, Nick Hulcher, the lead, this strain of bird flu is different.

This looks like it has actually come from serial passage research done at the USDA Poultry Research Laboratory in Athens, Georgia. Serial passage is when there's a blend of viral strains that's intentionally put in this case in a mallard duck, they were trying to see which strain would pass to the next mallard duck. And the mallard ducks are studied because their gullet is where the virus attaches, but it doesn't go into the lungs. And indeed, they found clade 23446 that looked like it transmitted. And sure enough, you know, that's where the first cases were around Athens, Georgia. Now, the unique aspect to this clade is that it was very mild in the mallard ducks.

They could spread it all over another migratory waterfall. It quickly spread into mammals. We're now up to about 40 different species of mammals. And so what, you know, the USDA and other public health officials have done, you know, over the last several decades is what's called biosecurity. So biosecurity would be this idea that, well, if one chicken has bird, flu if we sterilize the whole farm they won't get it again well that doesn't work in this case because the mallard ducks will just continue to re-infect the farms in fact as a guest on that clip you showed pointed that out so immediately we think we should not do

culling because of the fact we can't stop the reinfection with the mallard ducks but this is how they do it this is how they do it del they will take samples of about 11 birds on different swabs, put it into the same test tube, and then do another 11, and then a different test tube, and then they send it off. Now, they throw the birds back into the coop or the bin, so they don't know which birds are tested. And so when one of the tubes turns positive, you never know which bird. The decision is to call them, to kill them all. and when they extinguish all the birds by either pulling the oxygen out of the chambers

or smothering them with foam, what happens is the whole facility has to be sterilized, disinfected, and our research shows Dell is taken offline for 111 days. Wow. So Colleen is a big deal. I attended the University of Arkansas Bird Flu Summit this fall, and they thought there was about 10,000 birds that had died of bird flu. none of them adjudicate are confirmed, but the estimate is 10,000. And now you saw in that clip, you know, we're approaching 200 million killed through this process of calling.

Obviously, the vast majority, perfectly good birds. I mean, that seems. And so let me just get this straight. You're essentially saying that this is a lab grown clade, that this was something made in a lab? That it's, I mean, are we talking about a lab leak again when we're talking about bird flu right now? We're so sure of it. We've published this in a peer-reviewed paper titled The Proximal Origins of Clay 2,3-4-6, Avan Influenza. It was published in the peer-reviewed journal, Poultry and Wildlife Sciences.

And it hasn't been disputed by any of the public health officials. We cite the USDA research, research done by Dr. Karakawa at University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine and Dr. Ron Foucher at Erasmus. So yeah, it looks like this, that mankind brought this on, Dau. Now the twist that we've seen is the major strain of this clade. The clade is the original source. The restraint that was so mild that was just causing pink eye in humans and mild cases and animals was B3.13. Now we've seen the emergence of D1.1, and it's a totally different ballgame.

There's a teenager in British Columbia who gets D1.1. She gets severe human bird flu, ends up on the ventilator, needs ECMO for life support. Thankfully, she survives. A man down in Louisiana gets it. He dies. He had some birds in his backyard. And now a toddler in Cambodia has died. It's a different form of what we call genetic reassortment.

And Del, what I've concluded is, you know, this culling has caused this outbreak to last so long because a virgin flock after virgin flock. Now the virus has had enough opportunity to reassort and mutate, and I think it's taking a turn for the worse. Well, that's incredibly scary. I recently interviewed Dr. Robert Redfield, former head of the CDC. He has been shouting from the rooftops that he believes bird flu is what he's the most concerned about. And he has said time and time again, I believe it's going to be a gain of function or a lab leak that most likely will cause the problem. And here you're saying the first, you know, form that's really starting to affect mammals, looks like it came from a laboratory. When are we going to learn our lesson on this?

I mean, at what point do we stop messing with nature this way? And, you know, right now it's just an economics problem. We're making the price of eggs astronomical. We're looking to turkey to try and import eggs. But if you're right and we start seeing people getting infected and is creating a demand for a human vaccine, which will have its own issues to it. But over and over and over again now, we're watching man-made disease sweep this nation.

And then the only cure is the same scientists from the same lab, giving us a man-made vaccine to handle it. It's a lot of people lean towards conspiracy theory, like they're doing it on purpose. But either way, it has the same result. It's clearly scientific misadventure. You know, we have over a dozen. BSL four labs in the United States.

This is the highest risk pathogens that can get the whole world sick. We have well more than 140 BSL3 labs. The Biden administration guidance that came out on this Dell was very light, voluntary reporting. You know, most public health officials don't even know if they have one of these high-risk labs in their state. I'm on a standing committee in the Arizona Senate, and I've implored the state of Arizona to come on, do an inventory. It's just like working on a nuclear bomb in your university lab with no oversight. Yeah, incredible. Well, let's move on now to the other giant story in infectious disease.

The measles outbreak, especially in Texas. You live in Texas, as do I. One of the things I pointed out, it did a very thorough discussion last week on the many studies that show that the MMR may be failing on some level. We may have asymptomatic carriers and not know it. We certainly see vaccine failure in places where there are vaccinated involved. My understanding of this outbreak is it is mostly in an unvaccinated community. So I want to make that clear.

But, you know, they use this fear, this drum beat, and they seem so excited that they finally have a death here in Texas. And it's on every news station. Whereas, you know, you and I grew up watching the Brady bunch. And there was a laugh track around the family catching the media. is it egregious to have the media, which clearly has got so much funding from the pharmaceutical industry, to make people this terrified of an illness that is a benign childhood illness, is my number one question? Or is this virus changing to and are we dealing with something completely different? Yeah, our media and public health officials, I think, have to be far more responsible in this type of reporting.

and just to level set. Our CDC says anybody born before 1957 now, it's assumed that they've had measles. There's just a broad assumption that that's a case. I was born in 1962. I had a single measles vaccine at age two. And I had another one at age 20 when I entered medical school. And that's because I didn't have immunity.

I didn't have antibodies against measles. And now a paper from Bianchi and colleagues from Italy has actually done that exact study of medical students entering medical school. And the answer is about 20% of those who took the measles shot do not have effective immunity, according to Bianchi and colleagues. Now, the answer is if they've had measles during childhood, about 6% may not have adequate immunity. So clearly, natural immunity beats vaccine immunity. And now our CDC is reporting as of February 27, 2025, we have 164 cases in the United States of measles in Alaska, California, Georgia, Kentucky, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York City, Rhode Island, and Texas.

So it's not just the Mennonite community in West Texas. And you know what? In last year, in 2024, we had 285 cases. So, del, measles is something that does occur sporadically. it is spread by, you know, respiratory aerosol spread and it's a morbilliform rash. You know, we have other illnesses that have very similar rashes for which there's no vaccine, including hand-foot-mouthed disease caused by a coxacupirus. It's not a big deal.

I can tell you what I want to hear as a doctor is I want to hear how did the outbreak start and particularly if there was an immunocompromised child who was given, the MMR vaccine, that child can actually shed live measles onto others and start the outbreak. This is the first concern. Let's say a child who was on steroids for bad asthma exacerbation, what have you, there we go. That could be the initiation of the spread. We want to know who's fully vaccinated and who isn't so we can size up risk. And the reporting we got, and CNN did this, and so did the Texas Health Department.

You know what they said is they said, well, there's so much. many unvaccinated and others, the vaccine status is unknown. Well, I can tell you, Delle, if this is a big deal, any public health official, you're telling us the status is unknown, that's not acceptable. Right. I agree. It's not acceptable reporting. Tell us what the status is, they're public health officials. And lastly, when there's a death for which there was in Texas, boy, we better hear the details. What was the age, gender, baseline conditions. Were they maximally treated? What early treatment did they have?

You know, a child under age one should be getting 100,000 units of vitamin A. That's typically in a liquid format, greater than one years, 200,000 units. Did they get that? Do you know, for high-risk cases, we can give measles immunoglobulin. Did that child get immunososumoglobin? And then of course, did they get the nebulizers they needed? And what was the final course? they die of a measles secondary pneumonia or miscellitis, where they airlifted into the big center

at the children's hospital? What was the care pathway? Del, I can tell you I'm a cardiologist. If we have a patient die of a heart attack in a major medical center, do you know that case is reviewed in detail? That's a heart attack. Yeah. Absolutely. And so a measles death, every detail should be presented to us and yet we hear nothing. I agree. And that's very frustrating. And this is part of what when Robert Kennedy Jr. talks about being radically transparent. This is a disease that as I reported last week, if you go to the old vital statistics records, had a death rate of about 1 in 10,000 a month infected, one in 500,000 as a sort of population number. So if someone dies, and it's the first death in 20 years, certainly we need more details as to why,

because this is an anomaly. This is outside of the world that those that grew up, as you said before 1957, where everyone alive caught this and survived. I've said many times to reporters that are like measles is deadly and I always say, well, then how are you here asking me the question about it? Like what do you mean? I said, if measles is as infectious as you've said, and we all know it is, your parents, or at least your grandparents had it, all the billions of people on this earth had it.

This population exists because measles wasn't deadly enough to wipe us out. So we have to be more transparent. We need to look at what's going on. I think that they should be doing some studies right now. Testing, you know, go to a community where you have vaccinated, unvaccinated, where you know the status. And let's do a real pilot study. Let's test who's got a live infection and who doesn't amongst the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. Let's start getting to the details around this because the vaccine had promised that one day that it would eradicate measles from the planet.

As you're pointing out, if it's 20%, you know, failure amongst medical students that got the vaccines and 6% amongst those that get the live virus, you know, eradicating this disease from the planet does not look like it's going to happen. So what's the future otherwise, then? Can we rethink this? Yeah, there's one more question I have to tell you. I got today from Denmark on the measles outbreak. And you know what the person asked me? She's a public health official. She said, did the Mennonites have a measles party?

Right. No, remember this. Remember, I remember as a kid, chickenpox parties, there used to be measles parties. Unvaccinated populations may want to just get this over with, right? Because they're going to rely on natural immunity. I have patients who are Mennonites, Amish, other forms of Quakers. And we've always had about 2.5% of the population who take no vaccines. Yeah.

They just don't. That's how they live life. That number, according to the CDC, now is approaching 10%. So, you know, these types of questions, we're going to have to work our way through. Boy, we better have doctors and public health officials and know how to treat measles. You know, the Texas public health official was questioned, I think, by one of the reporters on CNN. And she said, doctor, have you ever seen a case of measles? She said no.

Wow. Yeah, I mean, that's a problem, too. If you don't know how to treat it, we used to know how to treat it. Something that Robert Kennedy, Jr. put out is, you know, vitamin A in the obvious ways to sort of treat it. I really appreciate your time, Dr. McCullough, and I look forward to speaking again soon. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Well, coming up later on in the show, Matthew Guthrie has a brand new documentary, Follow the Silenced. Really, this is about the human costs that came around the censorship, around the COVID pandemic.

What happened there? All the atrocities that took place and no one could talk about it. Well, now someone is. He's going to talk about this brilliant new documentary, one of the producers, Mickey Willis, behind it. I'm looking forward to talking to Matthew. And I'm going to address the letter that was put out by Robert Kennedy Jr. on measles. Did he make a mistake? Is he being controlled what's happening inside of Washington? I may not have all the answers, but I do have an opinion.

That'll be coming up in just a moment. But first, it's time for the Jackson Report. It's wild, Jeffrey. Robert Kennedy Jr. takes HHS secretary in Southern. Suddenly they push a button and it's like there's viruses everywhere, pandemics looming on the horizon. I don't know that it's orchestrated, but it feels like it sometimes.

Yeah. Well, I think anybody paying attention over this last month particularly knows that business as usual is out when it comes to the medical space and the public health space. This is, we're looking at revolutionary changes in every direction and the media reporting is going to obviously be pushing their buttons that they always push. But I think what the really big picture is here is it's we're looking at health through a different lens now.

We're looking at it through and public health as well through the lens of the increasing chronic disease epidemic in the United States. And that changes the whole narrative, changes the whole picture. And it changes how people are going to be reporting on things. And I'm noticing it in the literature now, in the scientific literature, that you see studies that look like this. This is a study that looking at proteomics and genetics. proteomics is just like the study of proteins in people's bodies down to that granular space there and integrating the environmental genetic architectures of aging and mortality. So they looked at both environmental exposures and genetics to see what plays a role in our aging and our mortality. And

you know, it's interesting because a lot of times when you see reporting, they'll say, well, you know, children just get autism because it's the parents' genetics. It's kind of your fault because you have bad genes. And that's just, this is just how it happens. But this study looks at a lot of different things. And so they're looking at blood chemistry, the proteins in the body, biomarkers, and then they also looked at the common disease risk factors that people were engaged in throughout their life and incidents of disease. This is what they found. We go to Science Daily for kind of just an overview. And it says lifestyle and environmental factors affect health and aging more than our genes. It goes on to say environmental factors explain 17% of the variation in

risk of death compared to less than 2% explained by genetic pre-eastern. disposition as far as we understand it. So right there, it's environment. This study is saying it is your environment, not your G, less than 2% is actually what you're born with. So this is actually a positive study because as it goes on to say, it says of the 25 independent environmental factors identified smoking, socioeconomic status, physical activity, and living conditions had the most impact on mortality and biological aging. Smoking was associated with 21 diseases, socioeconomic factors such as household income, home ownership, and employment status were associated with 19 diseases. Physical activity was associated with 17 diseases.

But here's the cool part. 23 of the factors identified are modifiable. So you can do something about your environment to affect your genes, to inform your genes, how to express themselves. This is a really cool study. Very interesting. And it goes into, you know, when people are reading this, they're going, okay, I'm an adult. I can maybe, you know, make sure my job's going well.

I can not smoke. But this goes all the way back to the moment where we're really conceived and we're born. So let's go back to infants. Let's talk about infants because this is entire lifestyle we're talking about. So we go to the USDA dietary guidelines. Every five years, they produce these. So this is their five-year update. And we look at infants.

So infants and young children, there's a part in here, it's really interesting because when you look at this, it gives the dietary guidelines and it says one thing, infants really should be avoiding and it's not smoking it's not it's not it's not drug use it's sugar and it says in this update avoid added sugar it says infants and young children have virtually no room in their diet for added sugars taste preferences are being formed during this time period infants and young children may develop preferences for overly sweet foods if introduced to very sweet foods during this time frame so it's really wiring their brain at that point yeah and what's interesting is we look at the u.s market so with that in mind literally u.s d a is saying it

It is contraindicated for infants to have sugar. So let's look at infant formula that's on the market. There's a study. The study is an analysis. They looked at 73 infant formulas available in the US market right now. And what did they conclude? They said this. Most US infant formulas contain primarily added sugars.

However, the presence of five formulas containing primarily naturally occurring lactose demonstrates that such formulations are feasible to produce, such formulas should be made more widely available to promote infant health. So only five. They said, look, you guys can produce them clearly because there's five out there. Why aren't you doing it for the other? Because there's 73 of them we looked at. And only five of them can cut this grade. And you're going against the USDA guidelines here. And so why is that a problem? Well, there's a really interesting natural studies. So during World War II, the UK and a lot of our countries as well, including the U.S., we did food rationing. And the UK rationed sugar. And so we have a natural experiment

during the time of World War II to 1953 was the actual official end of the sugar rationing, and it came back very quickly. So it was right back into the population after that. So there's this natural experiment that there was no sugar during that time for children born before, during, and after. So this study looks at what happened when people were, the infants were deprived of sugar. So remember the USDA is saying you really shouldn't give kids sugar. Why is that? So we look at this study here, and it says exposure to sugar rationing in the first 1,000 days of life, protected against chronic disease. Goes on to say this, using an event study design with the UK Biobank data comparing adults conceived

just before or after rationing ended. We found that early life rationing reduced type 2 diabetes and hypertension risk by 35 and 20% in delayed disease onset by four and two years respectively. Wow. These are big, big sweeping numbers here. just by reducing sugar. And it goes on, it's not just chronic disease, not just hypertension, diabetes. We have this study here.

This is a study review looking at a lot of the literature, harmful effects of high amounts of glucose on the immune system. So it even goes down to your actual immune system. It says the infiltration of a high amount of glucose into the immune cells may have a worse effect on the immune system and related signaling pathways, which ultimately leads to pro-inflammatory cytokine production. you do not want that. This may lead to impaired function of the immune system and trigger pathological conditions or disease conditions at that point. So, you know, we're talking about sugar,

and I know a lot of people out there are saying if we're talking about environmental factors, there's one big one here. So I'm going to hit this right before I end this segment. Here is an informed consent action network produced picture. This is the placebo pyramid scheme. And these are, this is all of the vaccines on the childhood schedule. And you notice not a single placebo-controlled trial was relied upon to license any of these vaccines. Safety studies were very minimal. So when you were looking at all environmental factors, this is a hope, obviously, that people brought Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in and the others that are coming in here to look, really look at the safety data, really look at this against a placebo, a true placebo, to see what the health, the chronic

disease conditions that may arise from these vaccines, stacking them on top of each other. Yeah, amazing. I mean, right, and that's what we've been saying all along and what the whole Maha movement is saying is clearly we have toxic issues. Our food is toxic, our water is toxic, our air is toxic. Somewhere in there, we've got to look at what is causing this incredible chronic disease epidemic. And let's, yes, and let's talk, let's stand vaccines now. Let's talk about the COVID vaccine. So I want to bring people back from my remember the ASIP committee was just postponed. And so let's go back to the good old days when the ASIC committee was it really in the trenches there, getting the science out of the way and

really putting the screws to Moderna and Pfizer before they unanimously approve their vaccine for children. Here is them talking about the spike protein. This is Pablo Sanchez. He's talking to really a higher up in the Moderna vaccine development space, one of their leads. Take a look. I've asked this before. And I just don't have a clear idea of how long this spike proteins that the messenger RNA in our bodies produce, how long has it been detected in patient serum or tissues and maybe, you know, even in animal studies. You know, how I know that, you know, it is said that the messenger RNA disappears quite quickly, but do you know, A, first of all, how long it may persist.

in blood or serum or tissues. And also, do you know what is the molecular weight of the spike protein that our bodies do produce? And I guess I'd say that with respect to trans placental transfer as well. But, I mean, this is a separate issue. But those are issues that have, you know, that I've brought up previously, and I'm not, and I really don't have an answer. I don't know if anything new has been. developed on those. Thank you.

Well, just far, you know, we have looked at the persistent, the detectability of spike protein as well as the MRNA. You're absolutely right. The MRNA degrades quite quickly. The spike protein availability, I believe, is on the order of days, but like less than a week, but I will confirm that with our talk folks as well. So it's a new design. It's an emergency use authorization product. And this thing is designed to, it gives messenger RNA, messages to your cell to produce a spiked protein for the first time ever in the human body. And so, rightfully so, Pablo Sanchez is saying, how long is this spike protein sticking around?

Could this be a concern in the body tissues and serum? I don't know, maybe like a week. Like a week. Okay, great. Well, unanimous rubber stamp. Okay, well, let's go to the FDA's FERPAC committee. That's Vaccine and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. It's kind of their version of ASIP at the FDA over there.

Kind of a similar question. Take a listen. Okay. Clearly, we're thinking in terms of micrograms, the way we would think of proteins as a way of inducing an immune response. And yet the purpose of MRNA is to induce protein production. So is your MRI just more efficient at making cells produce protein or how should we think of micrograms in terms of the amount of spike protein that's produced by the cells? Can you kind of clarify that?

Yeah, I'll leave to Moderna to describe the nature of how they address their vaccine dosage. But I think obviously we don't have a complete understanding of the nature of the way that the vaccine works in terms of producing immune response. So you have to go by the results. And the results are that in the setting of giving a three-microgram dose, we had low-reacted genesis compared to placebo, and after a third dose, just as in adults, at higher doses, we're getting an immune response that's comparable. It may well be that children we've seen certainly that we're able to go down

to a lower dose in children, and the expectation is perhaps they have a more robust response. That seems to be the case based on giving a 10-micogram goes to 5 to 11s and 3 micrograms to younger. But have you ever measured the amount of protein that's produced as a result of the MRNA and how many cells are producing it and how persistent that production is for a given microgram of MRN? That's a pretty broad question.

I think that's obviously an interesting question to better understand the mechanism and I would say it's somewhat academic in the setting of what we're trying to achieve here in terms of getting an immune response and a safety profile, it's satisfactory. worthwhile for people to pursue. That is June 15th, 2022. That means people are already receiving this vaccine. In fact, everyone in the world is receiving this vaccine. And like, that's a really broad question. How much protein are the cells producing or how long it persists? The guys first day, it's like, we really don't know how the immune system's respond to this. I mean, people, holy cow, do you realize you injected, people injected this? Billions of people injected a product. And

the top of their game involved in producing this have got no answers to obvious science. Oh, I mean, well, it's such a, like, really, does anyone need to know that? Oh, my God. That's scary, Jeffrey. That's really scary. It's absolutely scary. And why I'm showing these clips is just to remind people how wild west this science was. I mean, literally the guy from Pfizer is going, I don't know.

I guess that's the question for academia down the road. We're just producing it. We don't know. We're just making it. It's having an immune reaction. We know that for sure. We can measure that. Right. So let's, so we have, obviously, we have the journalists and we have academia. So let's go look at what they were doing at that time.

So here's 2021 as it's being rolled out. You know, a lot of people are already getting this. Here's Reuters fact check. COVID-19 vaccines using MRI do not send the immune system into perpetual overdrive by instructing cells to create the spike protein over and over again. And it goes in and it says the MRNA that instructs cells to create the spike protein is broken down by the cell shortly after the protein is synthesized. The protein itself, meanwhile, is broken down when it leaves the cell and is met by the immune response. Okay, seems pretty simple.

I guess Reuters knows more than Pfizer-Moderna. Great. And so let's look at academia because, you know, is there any problems with this spike protein and, you know, maybe sticking around a little bit and causing some health problems? Well, we have the NIH. This is stat news. NIH has received a billion dollars to look at long COVID research. It has poured a billion dollars into it, with little show for it. So it goes in and it says there's basically nothing to show for.

The National Institutes of Health hasn't signed up a single patient to test any potential treatments, despite a clear mandate from Congress to study them. Instead, the NIH spent the majority of its money on broader observational research that won't directly bring relief to patients, but it still hasn't published any findings from the patient who joined that study almost two years after it started. There's no sense of urgency to do more or to speed things up either. So we have really our agency is saying, well, you know, there's people with some problems sometimes after the vaccine, sometimes after the infection, but we're in no rush to really

look at this. And, you know, media and journalists are just completely flat-footed on this. So I want to talk through, again, just the basic mechanisms. This might help you before we go into this next segment here. So the basic mechanism of this vaccine technology is you have this encapsulated lipid nanoparticle. And inside is the messenger RNA. That's all that dancing stuff right there. Those are the messages.

And that is ushered through the body into, it's delivered into the cell. Once it's delivered into the cell, those messages tell that cell to create a spike protein. So the protein fold, it creates a spike protein. It's expressed in the cell. And then you see the immune system go, oh, I know what to do with this. I am going to neutralize this because that's an infection. So that's what shows up on all the cells. So that's the idea.

You know, you get that immune response and your cell is creating those things. So again, how long does this stay in the body? So we started to see some research. And here's one of the pieces of research early on. Blood distribution of SARS-CoV to lipid nanoparticle MRNA vaccines in humans. So it looks at how long this lipid nanoparticle and the MRNs in the blood. And it says both the vaccine MRNNs. and the ionizable lipid peaked in the blood one to two days post-vaccination.

The vaccine MRNA was detectable and quantifiable up to 14 to 15 days post-vaccination, 37% of subjects. So, I mean, you're looking at clearly less than a month that they're saying this lipid nanoparticle MRNA, they're clearly found together without that lipid nanoparticle, the MRNA is not going to survive. So where you find one, typically you find the other. And it only stays in the body. We found it 37% of people for about 14 to 15 days.

and then the rest fits over with. Well, now we get into the new research. And so we have what's called a rare syndrome. This is what is the title of this headline. Researchers describe rare syndrome after COVID vaccine. What kind of rare syndrome? Well, we go to Yale researchers, and we'll go to the study that they're actually quoting here. And it says immunological and antigenic signatures associated with chronic illnesses after COVID-19 vaccination. So that's interesting because chronic illnesses, is long COVID chronic illness. Right. At some point, now we're seeing the official merge of this.

It's maybe the same thing. Some caused by maybe the illness, some caused by the vaccine, but very similar on the outcome on the back end. So we go into this study and it says a small fraction of the population reports a chronic debilitating condition after COVID-19 vaccination often referred to as post-vaccination syndrome, PBS. Cerelogical evidence of recent Epstein-Barr virus reactivation was observed more frequently in the post-vaccination syndrome participants.

So they're having a reactivation of these dormant illnesses. Further, individuals with PBS exhibited elevated levels of circulating spike protein compared to healthy controls. That's a huge clue. Now we go into the real nitty-gritty here. Most notably, we found elevated levels of spike, S-1. and full-length spike, not just the fragments, the full length, in circulation up to 709 days after vaccination among a subset with post-vaccination syndrome, even though, even in those

with no evidence of detectable SARS-CoV-2 infection. Wow. This is bombshell. Wow. So, yeah, now we're talking two years. At first it was a month, and we kept saying, as we've been reporting on this, it looks like the spike protein is lasting as long as long as the, you know, the last. a study that looks at it, right? It was first three months. Then we looked at a six-month study,

still here, one-year study, still here. Now, 709 days in, I guess, still there, still producing spike protein. So this virus manufacturing plant, more specifically, a spike protein manufacturing plant, at least in those people that are finding, like, illness, this long COVID, you know, scenario that we're listening to, is just, does anyone know how to shut it off? I mean, it's terrifying, really. Right. And you so brilliantly started out with these scientists going, well, we don't really know. We know we're getting an immune response. Or we think it's just a couple of days. Well, what if it's not a couple of days? And what happens now that you've done no long-term safety trials? And so everybody got this thing. And as it turns out, it's like years your body

is making this. Really horrifying. And we go look at this graph from this study. It's kind of a plotted graph here. And all of those dots are people who receive the vaccination. The only difference is there's controls and there's people with the Epstein-Barr virus reactivation. And they are reported being infected or not being infected. But those kind of orangey pink dots, those are all the people that had the vaccine and no infection and are having this reactivation of their Epstein-Barr virus, which is a really common illness

that's just dormant in a lot of people. And the purple ones are the people with the post-vaccination syndrome they're calling and had an infection. But you're seeing days since last exposure. You know, you still, there's a lot of people there, 400 days, 600 days. And then that one top right one, there's that 709 days. And on the left is just the measure of the spike protein. But you can see there's a lot of people expressing these spikes for a very long time.

So the question is, remember, the messenger RNA can't live in the body, just free-floating. So it has to be in that lipid nanoparticle. And once that lipid nanoparticle gets into the cell, it delivers the message. And that's it. The spike protein is produced and its job's done. So all of that is over. So what's producing these? Because the spike protein is not going to be floating around in the body, just hanging out,

because the immune system will find that. So why is their spike protein full length? What's going on here? And so we saw studies early on in 2020, 2021 that's showing this. These are tabletop exercises, but this is 2021. Reverse transcribe SARS-CoV-2 RNA can integrate into the genome of cultured human cells and can be expressed in a patient-derived tissues. So is this what's happening?

Has this integrated into the DNA where we no longer need the vaccine now? Literally our DNA is telling our body to continually express and produce these proteins. I mean, there's a lot of evidence early on that that might have been the case. And, you know, in this Yale study where that spike protein was hanging out for 790. days, they noticed that people that had that reactivated virus post-vaccination syndrome had lower T cells. These are the signaling cells of your immune system. Well, there's also evidence of this. This is a study titled T-cell exhaustion during persistent viral infections. So this is obviously a hypothesis, but is this spike proteins just being produced forever more, and the immune system

is just trying to grab it and grab it and grab it and you're now getting tired because it can't stop fighting it because it's just continually coming. I mean, what you're saying there, and I want to put out that this is just a hypothesis right now, what we're talking about is something that a lot of scientists are looking at. This is very troubling, but this hypothesis is that what you're saying is that this beautiful little shell, this fatty lipid that protected the MRNA so it could get to the cell, we know that gets dissolved once it's entered the cells. So anything else out in the body should be being killed by the immune system

and not continuing to recreate or go to other cells because it can't get there without being attacked by the immune system unless somehow some of this MRNA reverse transcript, say that word again? Reverse transcriptase. Reverse transcriptase writes itself into your DNA. Now basically the Bible code of your body

is telling cells, teaching cells, or creating cells that makes spike protein as a part of their existence. Is it possible that we have mutated the human beings that are experiencing this so that their bodies will create spike protein the rest of their existence? And then the big question is, what happens if they have kids? Are they going to pass that on, journaline transfer? Are you going to see their kids? Did we just create an entire species that now just pumps out spike protein all day, every day, the rest of their lives for centuries to come?

And what's going to be the health of those people? Again, a hypothesis, but a terrifying one in a space where we don't have an explanation. Otherwise, why you're seeing this last so long in so many people. I mean, this is what happens when you, all I can say is this is what happens when you mess with nature. When you rush a product onto the market and giggle about how little you know about it and then tell everyone to get it. I hope to get to the bottom of this and someone's going to have to figure out how do you pry if it's possible. How do you prize something back out of your DNA if it's made a mistake? If we've even inserted a mistake into your DNA.

Right, right, absolutely. And, Adele, let's wrap this up on a happy note on a note of positive change. Because this week especially, we have RFK Jr., obviously, HHS Secretary appointed, but this week there's a lot of other things going on. So we saw the ASIP committee was postponed. Now the Verpack committee is also canceled. This is Reuters meeting of U.S. FDA vaccine advisors. Cancell Committee members said no really reason why when you go into that article, but it is canceled.

So we have ASA postponed, Verbeck canceled, business as usual in the health space is changing. And this week we have Dr. J. Batacharya. He's starting his journey towards the confirmation as the head of United States National Institutes of Health. Wow. This is a gigantic. This is where Francis Collins was. He has stepped down. Jay Batacharya, obviously professor of medicine, economics and health policy.

research at Stanford University, but also one of the signatories of the Great Barrington Declaration. And what's interesting was that Great Barrington Declaration, as everyone knows, was warning about the collateral damage that the restrictions, the pandemic restrictions were going to cause. And remember, Jay Bajaria is a true American story because he was attacked viciously by the Biden administration and those within the top heads of the agencies like Francis Collins. Here is the actual article when it happened. Trump's NIH pick, I'm sorry, this is Badacharya, this is the article is heading up here. Trump's NIH PIC urges scientific dissent in Senate hearing remarks.

So this is what he's going to be talking about. It was just yesterday that this hearing happened. But why is the urging scientific dissent is because at the time when the U.S. needed COVID-19, this is the headline, dialogue between scientists, Francis Collins, to shut it down. So basically, Collins shut this down. Remember, he called Badachara and the other two signatories fringe epidemiologists. He says we need a quick and devastating takedown to these people in the media to Tony Fauci. Because, again, they were just warning, hey, you may want to pump the brakes here.

And now you have Collins coming out and saying, ignoring the collateral damage inflicted by COVID-19 policies was really unfortunate. So this is where people's appetite to get new people that are going to shake things up. are coming in because the old people, the gaslighting, the basically, I'm going to punch you in the eye and then go, wow, there's a lot of violence on the street here. We should do something about this. It's just no longer happening. But what's also happening today as we speak is Dr. Martin Bikari, surgical oncologist and John Hopkins professor. He is going in front of the committee as well to talk about his appointments. Here's headlines being made by him on the run-up Trump's FDA pick made his name by bashing the medical establishment. We see a theme here.

Soon he may be leading it. So what to expect from Trump's pick to lead FDA? Well, you know, Makari, he's done a lot of great stuff. Surgical oncologists, he was actually leading, trying to limit the medical errors in the surgery space in American medicine, which was one of the leading causes of death, according to the BMJ. So this is a person that understands systems, understands how to change them. And both of these men, I mean, they're ready to shake things up. So the appointments, we should soon hear from them,

whether they're going to be appointed or not. Obviously, most president's appointments are kind of pushed through there at some point or another. So it's an exciting day for American medicine and an exciting week as well. It really is, both of those picks. I know Robert Kennedy Jr. is really hoping they get in there because they too, as we know, have challenged the system.

And by the way, even if you're looking at this from the other side or somehow you're worried about it, the scientific method demands scientific, scientific dissent. It demands that the best thinkers come forward and say, I think I see a flaw in your hypothesis, or I think I see a problem with your vaccine. I think I want to ask the question, how much protein is it creating, and how long does it last? And no, we're going to look into it and get back to you who's not good enough. People are taking this right now. Those voices were shut down. And by the way, you know, Francis Collins, who was trying to like, you know, dance around it,

shut down Jay Batachari is saying we need to be, you know, decisive and take this down while he knew for a fact. And we all now know that the six foot distance rule was completely made up, not based on science, that there was no reason to lock us down if the distance from one another made no difference whatsoever. So to think that he was saying that Badachari was fringe when they were the liars, they were pushing a non-scientific agenda that did destroy lives, did destroy business, did destroy the education of our children, did destroy our economy. So shame on you, Francis Collins, and all the lies from Tony Fauci and the rest. Maybe they're protected by Jill Biden, you know, and sort of giving them protections.

But in the end, we know the truth. And now we have the people that were calling it out from the beginning up for a job. Jeffrey, great reporting. As always, I'll see you next week. All right. Sounds good. Thanks. Well, you know, when we're looking at the bird view flu pandemic and the measles pandemic, you know, some of this we saw coming and some of the work, we're way ahead of you. We see this coming, which is why we went to our legal team and said, hey, I think there is going to be a bird flu vaccine.

They're obviously ramping up the hysteria. Can we, you know, put forward some Freedom of Information Act requests and start finding out how the trials went on these bird flu vaccines before they start warped speeding them into every American? This is what our legal team found out. On behalf of ICANN, we have submitted four-year request with regards to the bird flu, H5N1 vaccines. The bird flu, H5N1, is back in the news. Let's look at the three licensed H5N1 vaccines. The first one was licensed by GSK in a clinical trial where after the first year, those that got the vaccine had four times the rate of new immune-mediated diseases, four times the rate. And then there is the product by Sequeris.

In that clinical trial, there were 11 deaths in the vaccinated group and one in the placebo group. That trial was for adults. There was also a trial for children that only had 329 children in it and 26% of them reported an adverse event in 21 days. And then finally, there is a H5N1 vaccine licensed by Sanofi. And in that one, it only had 151 adults in the clinical trial, that's it. In the first 56 days after vaccination, there were four serious adverse events, including one death, in a population of only 151 adults.

Before you take one of these three products, if that is something anybody out there is considering, it might be a good idea to go to the FDA website, pull up the package insert, go to Section 6.1, and you can read exactly the information I just went through. Well, obviously, you know, we continue to do this work at I can to inform, you know, you to do research to bring FOIA requests. We're not going to stop doing that. But this bird flu vaccine, this is serious. That is a terrible set of vaccines that we've discovered through those FOIA requests. And I assure you they're right around the corner. They're going to try to mandate this, whether it's going to be a measles vaccine or the bird flu vaccine. If you thought that,

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He's now HHS secretary. We're seeing this measles thing ramp up. We covered it in depth last week. I got into science that I don't think you've seen anywhere else. But Robert Kennedy Jr. made some statements he put out an op-ed, and a lot of people are panicking about it, especially those that consider themselves in this medical freedom movement or vaccine risk awareness movement. This is that article. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., measles outbreak is call to action for all of us. The subheading MMR vaccine is crucial to avoiding potentially deadly disease. I want to make one thing clear before I even get started. see that second line written anywhere in this article, right? That is the editors, I guess, at Fox or

somebody put the headlines on that, but I didn't see that. Can we bring it back up? You can read the article yourself, but I did not see anywhere where Robert Kennedy Jr. said the MMR vaccine is crucial to avoiding potentially deadly disease. Anyway, but I will talk about what he did say. Some of it that I approve of. Some of it, I don't necessarily. I'm going to talk about why. And for many of you watching, you know that I was a part of Robert Kennedy Jr.'s Director of Communications. That job ended the moment he put his hand in the Bible and went in as HHS Secretary.

So I am no longer working for him. I'm not a spokesperson for him. And I have no desire to be an apologist for anything that I see going on. But I do have some sense of what's going on. Some of it, insider baseball, if you will, and some of it just my own thoughts of strategy. But let's look at what we're all talking about right now. This is one of the major paragraphs that has got many of us upset. Measles is a highly contagious respiratory illness with certain health risks, especially to unvaccinated individuals.

The virus spreads through direct contact with infectious droplets when an infected person breathed, coughs or sneeze. Obviously, I take issue with that middle of that sentence, where it ends up saying that it's especially dangerous or with certain health risks, especially to unvaccinated individuals. There's nothing that tells us that unvaccinated individuals are any more at risk when they come in contact with the measles virus as those that had the vaccine. As we showed you last week, there is vaccine failure going on. If you are not showing symptoms, but you get deathly ill, did anyone know you had the measles? Those are the types of things that no one is looking into.

So there's no way to scientifically make that statement. And let me be perfectly clear. I'm about to do interviews, I'm sure, with Politico and all sorts of names. news agencies that want to ask me what I think. Here's what I think. I think that death is unfortunate. It happens no matter what choice we make as parents. If you vaccinate, there's a risk to the vaccines.

You can open up the insert itself and see right there all the adverse events that are right there that the MMR is known to have caused serious events, swelling the brain, you name it. But there's also a risk to catching any illness there is. The measles, as we pointed out last week, was a Brady Bunch episode. If it was so incredibly deadly, why did it have a laugh track in the 1950s and 60s? I think you have to look at that. But let's be clear, some people, as we've seen in Texas, can die from the measles. Now, I think it's really egregious for the media to jump on one death, the first death in 20 years,

and act as though you, I mean, actually try to scare everybody. Can you imagine if you did that every time? a child died from eating an egg from an allergy and tried to scare everybody from eating eggs. Children died from eating eggs every single year. Children died from eating peanuts every year. The media doesn't go out and try to make us all terrified of eating a peanut. That's what's happening right now in the media. They are directly opposed to what we knew about this virus back when we had no vaccine. I'm going to get deeper in that. Let's look at the next paragraph. prior to introduction of the vaccine in the 1960s, virtually every child of the United States contracted measles.

It's a really important point that Robert Kennedy Jr. is making here. He's quietly and very carefully telling you, if this was so deadly, how are we here? As Peter McCullough said at the beginning of the show, up until 1957, it was believed that everyone born before 1957 caught the measles. We are alive today because measles did not kill any of the measles. of our ancestors up until 1957. Some died, but mostly this was a benign childhood illness. It goes on in this paragraph to a part that I want to question. For example, in the United States, from 1953 to 1962, on average, there were 530,217 confirmed cases and 444 deaths, a case fatality rate of 1,205 cases. Now, I want to take issue with this here. I don't, I do

know, we looked up where is Robert Kennedy Jr. getting this information? Is it being handed to him? We looked it up because last week we told you that measles has a death rate of one in 10,000. Did we get it wrong? Let me show you what's happening here. If you go to what Robert Kennedy Jr. or the CDC or whoever's helping write this, this is an art, this is a study done in November 14th, 2007. Historical comparisons and morbidity and mortality for vaccine preventable diseases in the United States. by that title, you can see that this is an article designed to try and show how amazing the vaccine program has been. So it may want to skew the numbers. How did it do that? Well, this is what it did. It goes on to say that the number of reported cases for 1953 to 1962, that the average

reported deaths was about 440. So what they're saying is of the reported cases, which was 530,217, they took an average of 440 deaths and said that's one out of 1,200 and something. But here's the problem. They're only looking at the reported cases. So let's be clear. Back when this was a Brady Bunch episode, most people didn't take it very seriously. Everyone knew that they got it, their sisters got it, their brothers got it, their mom, their dad, their grandpa got it.

This is just something we all do. And we take vitamin A and we all do just fine. So how many people got the measles but didn't tell their doctor? Because why would you? This was like a common cold. Do you call your doctor every time you get a common cold? No, you do not. Well, that was recognized by the original study that we were looking at. So let's take a look at that because this comes from 1962 and Alexander D. Langmuir was the head of the CDC for about 20 years when he wrote this. This is what he writes, living in the time. not in 2007, living in the time himself. This is how he described it. This self-limiting infection of short duration, moderate severity, and low fatality has maintained a remarkably stable biological balance over the centuries. And he goes on to show us the graphs as he sees it.

And what you see is that case fatality rate, when you go out and you see that by the time you include the adults, you're at one in 10,000. See that 10, roughly about 10 per 100,000 cases or a death rate of one in 10,000. So that's the number they wrote about in the time they're living in. It's an exaggeration to say one in 1,200, especially since you know you're not being sincere when you're only going with the reported cases. And are we alone on this? The CDC even knows this.

When you go to the MMWR at the CDC measles prevention recommendation of the immunization practice advisory committee. This is what they write. Before measles vaccine was available, more than 400,000 measles cases were reported each year in the United States. However, since virtually all children acquired measles, the true number of cases probably exceeded 4 million per year, the entire birth cohort. So they make the assumption when they look at it that is being made by the guy living in the time and running the CDC. We know we're not seeing all the cases. We're only seeing the ones from the people that panic when they have a childhood illness. The rest, everybody, stayed home and didn't talk about it. So we assume that that was about four million cases,

which brings us to one in 10,000. So Bobby, will you please look at the data? This one in 1,200, it's a huge difference between that and 1 in 10,000. All right, let me move on, because I think it's important to see what he's really doing in here. The decision to vaccinate is a personal one. Vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but also contribute to community immunity, protecting those who are unable to vaccinate due to medical reasons. I probably take more issue with that statement than any other statement that was in this article. Let's bring it back. Can I look at it very quickly? Vaccines not only protect individual children from measles, but also contribute to community immunity. We have pointed out all last week, and if you didn't see that show,

definitely look at it, all of the vaccine failure that we're seeing. In a Disneyland case, we saw that 30% of the cases were unvaccinated. I don't think we're going to see that here in Texas because the reports that I'm getting here in Texas is that it's very remote. It's isolated to a Mennonite community. In this Mennonite community, they do not vaccinate, but they're very isolated. And so this really is spreading in an unvaccinated community. Now, are they having measles parties, as Dr. Peter McCullough asked. I don't know. I do know that that was happening when I visited the Hasidic Jewish community when they were having a measles outbreak in New York several years ago for all the reasons we reported last week, which is that would reduce their risk

of cardiovascular disease and reduce their risk of so many different cancers. And I know they're very healthy. And I'm going to go with the Brady Bunch sense of this virus. And I think they would do just fine. All right, let's go on to the next paragraph. As health care providers, community leaders, and policymakers, we have a share responsibility to protect public health. This includes ensuring that accurate information about vaccine safety and efficacy is disseminated. Now, right here, I've seen a lot of you panic. This is where I think you're seeing Bobby Kennedy's true colors. What he's saying is I'm going to start showing you the inserts. You're going to start looking into this in the future. I want total transparency.

So we're going to really talk about the efficacy. We're going to really talk about the safety studies that we're done. He's telling you right there, but a lot of us took it because some of the other lines, whether they're written by him or not. Is he, you know, dealing with a bureaucracy? Certainly he is, but I'm not going to forgive that. But let's go on to the rest of this paragraph and tell me if you don't see that he is talking about being transparent. We must engage with communities to understand their concerns,

provide culturally competent education, and makebacks. is readily accessible for all those who want them. That, my friends, is the freedom to choose. Donald Trump has said that, and I agree with him, and I have said it from the beginning. If you want to choose the vaccine program, I would never take that away from you. In fact, if you really want to have a vaccine, bring it over here, and I'll slam it into your butt for you. It's a free country. You just can't tell me what to do.

And that's what Robert Kennedy Jr. is standing right there. Let's go on. It is also our responsibility to provide up-to-date guidance on available therapeutic medications. While there is no approved antiviral for those who may be infected, CDC has recently updated their recommendations. What are they updated to say? Supporting administration of vitamin A under the supervision of a physician for those with wild, moderate, and even severe infections. Studies have found that vitamin A can dramatically reduce measles. mortality. My God, do you see what a small step for mankind we just made for the first time in

like 50 years? The FDA and the CDC are now going to be recommending vitamins as a way to take care of yourself. Remember, people lost their licenses during COVID for recommending vitamin D. Now the head of HHS is saying, we're providing vitamin A to Texas right now, and we're recommending that you start taking it because that deficiency could. increase your experience with measles. That's huge, you guys. That is a giant step. I think we have another paragraph here.

By 1960, before the vaccine's introduction, improvements in sanitation and nutrition had eliminated 98% of measles deaths. Good nutrition remains a best defense against most chronic and infectious illnesses. Vitamin A, C, and D, and foods rich in vitamins B, 12, C and E, should be a part of a balanced diet.

Look at this, folks. He's telling you back in the 1960s, we watched this thing eradicate itself. The death rate drop. We didn't need the vaccine. Of course, he's talking about this graph that we bring up all the time. When was the last time he saw ahead of HHS,

show you this, that the measles vaccine arrived long after this disease had already taken care of itself and become a trivial childhood illness. for the majority of Americans. Now, when we talk about these things, I want to say, I am here to put pressure on the government, and I think that we should demand the truth be out there.

And maybe when they say that the measles vaccine adds to community immunity, we should all at least tell our friends, hey, I think that that's baloney, and here's why. Go and check out last week's show on the high wire. But I do want to bring up something. This is a little bit more insider baseball, if you will, that I don't know that you will hear anywhere else. This is a conversation I've had both with Dr. Andrew Wakefield when I was making Vax that shocked me. And a conversation that's come up in some of the dialogues around, you know, running if we were to run HHS long before Robert Kennedy Jr. got there.

And this is a problem. This is a problem that those of us that don't believe in the vaccine program or don't believe, believe that our children need to use it or maybe parts of it. Again, it's a free country. But I want to talk about something because it's very easy to judge being the HHS secretary from our couches and our barclamlangers in our house. But there are actually complexities that maybe you haven't thought of. And this is one I want you to think about right now. Prior to the MMR vaccine, prior to vaccinating for measles, infants that are the only really truly susceptible group of children that are in danger of measles. You do not want your day one old,

one month old, two month old, five month old infant to catch the measles. At that age, it is dangerous, no doubt about it. But here's what's shocking. The numbers when we look back in the 1950s and 60s had very few infants that died. The reason being that their mothers passed on measles immunity to the baby at birth. How did that happen? Every mother that caught the measles as a child kept that immunity through life. And once they started having their own children, that natural immunity passed on to the infant, to the baby. They were protected for at least six months, oftentimes a year. And if the mother breastfed that child, that immunity could last up to a year and a half long. But certainly at six months to a year, now that that immunity given by mom wears off, now the child,

is at a place where they're healthy enough to handle a measles infection. It was amazing. Nature or God, if you will, had done an amazing job at protecting our babies. But then we started vaccinating every person in this country, starting in 1963, 64, depending on how you look at the data. And we've been vaccinating ever since. Here's the problem. No mother that's been vaccinated with the MMR vaccine for measles passes any of the

anything on to their infants. Our infants now have zero protection whatsoever. They've tried giving MMR vaccine to mothers while they're pregnant or before they get pregnant to see if they could pass something on. Zip, zilch, nada. So now every infant in the United States of America is in danger. They're in a vulnerable, vulnerable position if they were to get a measles infection. That is caused by the pharmaceutical industry and this vaccine program, an issue that never existed before. So now there's a concern that Dr. Andrew Wakefield brought to me. He said, I wouldn't eliminate the measles vaccine. We're going to have to back out very, very carefully and slowly, because if everyone just stops using a measles vaccine, then you are going to see measles infections,

which would be fine for everybody, except all of these infants that are not protected because of this vaccine program. So I don't know if Robert Kennedy Jr. is thinking all of this through exactly, but you do imagine if you're saying, hey, if you want to get an MMR and that's something you want to do, go right ahead and do it. I want you to ask yourself, would you say that knowing what I just told you? Because if you have people just suddenly stop using a measles vaccine and we're not really careful about this, every death of an infant will be on your head.

as head of HHS. Do you want that on your head and how would you explain it? See, there's complexities that now exists in this world because the pharmaceutical industry has destroyed our natural world. Instead, in fact, let me make it even clearer. The pharmaceutical industry and this measles vaccine did not eradicate measles and it is clear it never will be able to. The only thing this measles program, this measles vaccine program, eradicated was herd immunity itself. We now have infants that have no protection because of this terrible vaccine program for a trivial childhood illness that killed almost nobody, one in 10,000. But now we have babies at risk. And now as head of

HHS, you've got to figure out how you language to everybody. Which leads me to my last point. I know there's those of us that had hoped that maybe Bobby Kennedy will go there and eradicate the vaccine program because we're convinced all it does is injure people. But that was never what Robert Kennedy Jr. ran on. He never said that. And by the way, even if he did that, what value would that have? How long would that last? You would panic at least half of this country, maybe more, saying, I thought you said you were going to eradicate the vaccine program, and now you have and now we're all going to die and they would panic and they would scream.

And whatever happened, two years, four years down the road, either he gets fired or a new administration comes in and they'll just set it all right back to where it was because the new sheriff in town that's been elected by the new half of the country that didn't agree with where this was going are just going to change it right back. You really want to protect children. And I know that this is the concern.

You're saying children are dying right now. Children are being injured right now. They are. But we have got to convince and show the real science to this whole country. We've got to move out this country. They didn't have the injured child we had. They didn't know the relative that lost their child. They didn't see it with their own eyes. Maybe they're just now starting to wake up to it. Maybe they have a COVID injury and they don't know it. But we've got to work with them the same way someone worked with you at some point in your life. Because most of you were pro-vaccine people at one time. You're probably an X-Vaxer now because something happened to you, or you saw it happen nearby. When Robert Kennedy Jr. says, I am going to be radically transparent, he is being radically transparent. He's talking about other ways you can take care of yourself. He's talking about vitamins. But he has got to meet this country where they're at. Just like any presidential candidate and Donald Trump says, I am now president for the entire country, not just the ones that agree with me. Robert Kennedy Jr. is HHS secretary, not just for the people that voted

for him or followed him or like Donald Trump, but for the whole country. And I believe that if he carefully reveals the science, if he starts doing the studies that we all need to have done, you can't really say whether the MMR vaccine is, you know, that much more dangerous than the virus itself, because there's barely any studies done. Studies need to be done. And if he doesn't act too radically and continues to hold the hands of everybody and they go, wow, I thought he'd be scary, but he's not being so scary. He's saying if I want a vaccine, I can. If I want vitamin A, I can. Maybe I should listen to him. Maybe I should read all the science that he's offering to me. I believe on that journey, if he can slowly lead everybody to the promised land of truth,

that we will make a change. We will demand as a nation, not a politicized, divided nation, but a whole nation together recognizing that there is no such thing as a partisan issue around the health of our children. If we do this carefully, if Bobby does this right, everyone in this country will recognize what half of us know to be true right now. And then when those changes happen, they will be lasting changes that won't just save the hundreds of thousands or maybe millions right now. It will go on to save the millions and hundreds of millions and billions in the future of this species. You're allowed to go ahead and have all the judgment you want.

This is a man who cares about every child in America and every child in the world. It's going to take strategy. And I will tell you, I know this guy. He's one of the greatest lawyers the world has ever seen. He's won cases that nobody thought could be won against the government, against big corporations, fighting for the little man. And now he is taking that education and that understanding and bringing a strategy to that position that we've never seen before.

Can we give him a couple days? Can we see where this goes? can we at least celebrate the changes we're seeing right now? That's all that I'm going to do. I'm going to continue to show you as I have the truth as I see it. I want to say this for sure. I can is never going to stop fighting for the vaccine injured and bringing attention to the fact that MMR vaccine causes incredible injury.

I believe when the science really comes in, it will be shown to be a contributor to autism. We have Holly's law that's been passed around this. vaccine injury is real and we are not going to stop fighting for the truth there. Now, all of that said, Mark Siegel interviewed Robert Kennedy Jr. after he wrote this article and see if it just gives you a little bit of context. Take a look at this. I've been in touch with the governor, with Governor Abbott, who I talked to last week.

As you know, a little girl died. She was a member of the Mennonite community. She was unvaccinated. And she's the first measles death since 2015 in our country. the second measles death since 2005. So, you know, the disease is a self-limiting childhood disease and the little girl who died who may have, where malnutrition may have been an issue in her death.

So there's a lot of poverty in that area. The food is kind of a food desert. The best thing that Americans can do is to keep themselves healthy. It's very, very difficult. It's for measles to kill a healthy, person. So if you're healthy, well-nourished, in fact, you know, measles at one point was killing about 10,000 people a year in our country. But those deaths were eliminated through nutrition and sanitation. In 1963, prior to the introduction of the vaccine, there was about 400 people

who died from measles, almost all of them were malnourced children. CDC in the past has not done a good job at quantifying the risk of vaccines. We are gonna do that now so that people can make a real informed choice about what's best for them, for their families, and their communities. My approach to this issue is just gonna be absolute radical transparency. We're gonna get the information.

You know, we have a vaccine surveillance system in this country that just doesn't work. The CDC system, the CDC was ordered in 19, In 1886, when Congress gave immunity from liability to vaccine companies, it ordered CDC, create a surveillance system that really captures all of all vaccine injuries. Under CDC's own studies show that the current system that we have, the various system, the vaccine, adverse event reporting system captures fewer than 1% of vaccine injury. That is absolutely inexcusable.

We don't know what the risk profile is for these products. Americans have the right to know to be able to make an informed choice. You need to know the cost and the benefits. And we've never quantified the cost. And that's why there's so much mistrust. And we need to restore government trust. And we're going to do that by telling the truth and by doing rigorous science understand both safety and efficacy issues.

I want to celebrate Robert Kennedy Jr. for bringing up for bringing up the fact that this was an illness that the death rate had gone down 98%. That we know that vitamins in being healthy is the best way to protect yourself. And that really studying the truth, really studying the vaccine inserts, you should all be asking for it. Look at the side effects of the vaccine. Look at the ingredients. You know, the MMR is one of the few that actually has aborted fetal DNA in it. You feel like injecting the DNA in cells?

cells of a dead baby into your own child? There's a lot of people that don't like that idea right there, but how many know that's the truth. So let's get to transparency, but let's celebrate what's happening because there's a lot of positive things happening. Can you imagine if this COVID vaccine was rushed out under Robert Kennedy Jr. Can you imagine would there be gaslighting of all of the injured that were coming forward? Do you think that those that were in the trials, like Maddie deGerry or Breedresson, that when they were reaching out to the FDA, do you think Robert Kennedy Jr. would allow Peter Marks to not listen to their calls? Well, that is the heart of a new documentary about one of the greatest cover-ups,

the largest censorship and gaslighting of a vaccine injured group we have ever seen. It's a brand new documentary by Matthew Guthrie. Follow the Silenced. Maddie. The first question was why isn't the United States looking in our own backyard for our data. Madeline, hey honey, it's daddy. But they were. They just weren't telling us what it said.

Maddie? Maddie? Maddie? Hey, what was a guy? I need to take this out. Help. I need this out. I can't do it.

Most of you have never heard of me. I did my part. I got it. And most likely have never heard of most of us here. I'm scared and bad and hurting too. I am you and I just want someone to help me too. Thank you guys. I would like to introduce, I'm proud to introduce, Ms. Briand Dresson.

I don't know where to go. Her cause of death, her actual cause of death is not on this thing. Thanks for returning my call. I did not want to be the one way of my mother. I spent three minds and I'm still for me. Every single day. The worst part was I could not walk. I couldn't move my arms or leg.

I could walk. It didn't move. I couldn't move. I can't feel my legs. I can't feel anything. They're not calling Lift. Yeah, they're calling us. You know, I don't want to die.

I want to still live for my kids. Blood clot in his internal jugular vein. Next week it's his birthday. You don't want to celebrate his birthday. Why it is the responsibility of sick people to do this is beyond me. I participated in the clinical trial for AstraZeneca. She participated in the Pfizer COVID vaccine trial. They dropped me from the trial.

35 adverse events. Reduced to functional abdominal pain. It's a stomach egg. I wonder what else was hidden. The truth is not out there. And it's thanks to these guys. They've done everything they can to hide people, to hide injustices,

and to even literally hide the cries of those people that are suffering. If we try to talk about it's social media, you get banned. People don't know we even exist. Denise Hertz is on an email string with the heads of the NIH. These are safe and effective products. The CDC. There is no bad. time to get your second shot. The heads of the FDA. We have very good safety surveillance

systems in place. If you look at bears database, there are more than 1,000 neurological side effects already reported. None of us are denying that this potential vaccine injury here. We already have 1,200 people who've died. And that's in about two months of availability. For these MRI vaccines, there is incredible BS out there about thousands of people dying, et cetera, that just ain't true. This stack of patients are patients that are stuck. There were 50 to 100 reports going missing. I mean, there's IDs being disappeared.

If they put down that it was a vaccine injury, they actually won't get reimbursed, so it gets labeled as anxiety. Diagnosting, heart to go, severe panic attack. Functional neurologic disorder. Factitious disorder. So basically, she was making you up. I was muffled, I was told I was wrong,

I was told to go home, and I was told not to talk. These are human lives. just going to stay in limbo forever. There's a whistleblower early on Brooke Jackson last year. I contacted the FDA and submitted a formal complaint. They're unblinding patients. How many studies do you run where you take the placebo group and give them vaccine too? I threatened to go public no matter what the consequence was.

The government killed my baby? I'm not going to stop this way. I told my family that I was going to end my life. I got to look at my son and tell him, honey, I'm going to be okay. But in my heart, I don't know if I'm going to be okay. I don't know if I'm going to wake up tomorrow. I don't know if I'm going to be in a wheelchair the rest of my life. It broke my son to hear that his mom wanted to die because she had gotten a COVID vaccine.

These are human stories. These aren't people with political agendas. If I was an anti-vaxor, I wouldn't have been standing in the freaking line to get the shot. I just want my daughter back. So this story has everything to be interesting, right? You've got scandal. Bima had offered me money if I'd check. I changed my son's death certificate from enlarged heart to COVID. You've got secrets.

The FDA wanted 75 years to release this data. And what the FDA did to me was contact Pfizer and get me fired. We don't have any secrets here. You've got money. A patent for the Moderna vaccine is owned by the Department of Health and New Services. And power. This is not about freedom or personal choice. But the base of this story, the very center of this story is love.

I won't sleep until this war is done. Because without validation, without love, without acceptance, healing cannot happen. We can't give up. Let's get you someone for your life back, okay? And we can't give it. I know that I'm on the other side of the country, but I promise you you're not alone. So that's what this story is about. It's about love.

I'm not going to give up, and I'm not going to give up on these people. The documentary is called Follow the Silenced. It's probably going to be the most. important documentary of the year. It's coming out in just a few days and I'm joined right now by the director Matthew Guthrie. Congratulations. Thank you brother. You know, we were just sitting here talking and I've known you've been working on this for years and the documentaries oftentimes, you know, they take a lot of time and a lot of work, but this is a story that just kept changing. I mean, we just kept getting new information. It must have been impossible to figure out how to finish.

That it is. And not only that, I mean, it's the most impossible story to tell, you know, because it's a puzzle in ten dimensions. And what we didn't want to do is, you know, we want to tell the injured stories, but I didn't think that if we made a film that was just going to document the story of injured people, that that was going to move the needle enough and really get people to understand what happened. I think the only way that you do that in a story of this size is you've got to tell it from 30,000 feet. You need this much bigger perspective so you can see how a single story, happens in real time. And I started filming in August of 2021 and, you know, didn't stop until, I guess, the end of 2023. So we spent more than a year in post trying to wrangle this story. We built it the way that you would build like a thriller. You know, it was like strands of rope. And you just keep weaving stories around and weaving stories around until you can start to get this discernible narrative like you would do with any, you know, scripted film. Take a look at this. This is just, this is your board, I guess, of all. Like when you're making a film, folks, you put each little section on a card.

Obviously, those boards were getting out of control. As a filmmaker myself, I don't even want to enter that room. I want to go in there. It's a murder scene unto itself. What was it like for you? I mean, these are really, really powerful stories, hard stories. You're sitting in and listening to phone calls with Peter Marks at F.E. FDA and listening to these lies to write to the person that's, you know, suffering the injury.

Emotionally, what's that like as a filmmaker? Did it affect your personal life? Deeply. It's impossible to kind of state the depth to which this affected our lives. And it's not just me. I mean, I'm lucky that I have, you know, such incredible people to work with, you know, Mickey and Tyler Lindsay, who I've worked with for more than 20 years. Mickey Willis, the executive producer from the plan.

pandemic series, I think one of the greatest filmmakers alive today. Absolutely. And I mean, honored to call him a brother and a partner in this. But yeah, Tyler and I, we spent so much time away from our families, away from anybody in our life. I mean, this was all that we've done day and day and day, 18 hours a day for, what, four years now? But, you know, making this story, I mean, when I first started this, these were people that

nobody had talked to them. Everybody had just shut them down and ignored them. So most everybody, when I found them, they were locked. away in their homes and they wouldn't talk to anybody. They would talk to me. I was just able to kind of get through to them and they're like, okay, I'll talk to you, let's give this a shot. So when I showed up and started talking to them, for some people, this was like the first time that they were telling their stories. It was deeply emotional. I sat and cried with every single one of these people, you know, friend, and I can't even, the amount of gallons and buckets of tears

and sweat and blood that went into this film, because it's in pursuit of truth. That's what we all care about. And, you know, I keep saying this whole time that I've been doing this, that the truth matters no matter what it costs. And we didn't care what it cost us to tell this story because we painstakingly made sure that every nanosecond of this movie is truth. What is this documentary doing that we haven't seen yet? It's giving you the whole story. It's not just giving you a, because when you're, when you follow Bree, story, which Brees was one of the first people that I found. The Addresson has been on this show many times, React 19 and incredible nonprofit group working to heal other people dealing this issue. She's just a rock star,

dealing with her own injury, you know, from COVID, yet just unstoppable, trying to make a difference for so many people. But okay, so her story. Yeah. And when you, when you start with somebody that was in the trial, that the cover-up started in the beginning with them, right? So imagine being somebody that's in the trial, you're injured, you're dropped by the trial company, you don't have anything from the pharmaceutical companies, your doctors are telling you you're crazy, nobody will speak to each other as far as like trial site and doctors are concerned. And you are left at a point where what are you going to do? Are you going to sit there and lay down and do nothing and just watch as this vaccine rolls

out and it just continues to hurt people? No. And then that was one of the most amazing things was the human spirit that we captured in this film real raw for people that were strangers that formed a family, that stood up for each other, that advocated for each other. But really what the film shows you is, it shows you what the government knew. What we were really fortunate to get access to

was emails that physicians had, and this is in 2020, so as the nurses and doctors were getting the vaccine in late 2020, injuries were already starting, and there was a number of injuries. We have emails that say, and I quote, the agency is aware of thousands of neurologic reactions, right? So the various companies and agencies know about that. So these people were gaslit from day one.

We want to hear this. Tell us what's going on. We're going to work on this. We're going to study this and we're going to treat this. So vaccine injured people that were in the trial and physicians and nurses that were injured before the public rollout were being flown to the National Institute of Health to be treated and studied for the injuries from these vaccines.

Where was that in the news? When did the public get to find out about these things? And then of course, as the big one that we have in this film is conversations with the FDA. People are going to get a real serious in the room conversation with the FDA with React 19 as Brie assembled injured physicians and people that had serious credibility. Well, let me go talk to the FDA. And the whole point of this and all that they were ever trying to do was just get things added to the warning label. You know, they weren't trying to stop people from get a vaccine. They just wanted people to have proper informed consent.

That was it. Yeah. And all they wanted to do is say, look, you know, you eventually recognize Myrocarditis. Well, what happened when you did that? Care goes up. Doctors and physicians can look at that and go, okay, now we know what we're looking for. So there were neurologic reactions that are staggering levels, and we have the evidence from it. We have CMS and CDC data, and we have the VARIS database, we have the D-Med database. So when you compare all three of these data sets together, you see the exact same rises.

I mean, if you're- Right, then that tells you something. I mean, it's, you know, it's repeating in different databases. Now you know this isn't an anomaly. You don't have some strange reaction happening to a certain group of people. At the center of your film, one of the characters that we've only touched on lightly, I would say here on the high wire, we've done a pretty good job of showing, you know, what a diabolical character, Tony Fauci has been, to a lesser extent, maybe Deborah Birx.

But at the center of this story is Peter Marks at the FDA, who is the one receiving these calls. You know, I've said before, I don't really believe people are evil from the most part. I think they believe they're doing what's right. I hold a special little caveat for Tony Fauci. I actually think he knows what he's doing. I think he's dangerous. He knows he's injuring people. But after making this film, how would you describe Peter Marks? I mean, I'm with you on those things, right? Because you either willfully are ignoring information or you're so insulated that you just don't know. But when you have hours and hours and hours of testimony, right, when you're presented with hard data from not only from the United States but from Europe, right? When all that information is presented to the FDA and the FDA does nothing with it, and that's the ongoing cycle is we'll get back to you, we'll circle back to you, we're going to look into this, we don't see a signal, even though there's thousands of- I mean, that's the statement.

We don't see a signal. I mean, I kept seeing Peter Mark said, we just, we don't see a signal. VERS itself has, you know, 50,000-ish. deaths reported from the COVID vaccine, which would be the most in history. Now, whether or not they're properly vetted or we've gone through, whatever, it is usually 400 deaths a year. You're talking tens of thousands being reported there. That's a signal. Yeah. That's a signal, meaning deeper investigation needs to be done for a scientist at the center of this to say there is no signal is nothing but a lie. How is this guy lying about that? I know. Well, and it gets deeper than that because, you know,

You guys have had Deborah Conrad on the show. We love Deb. Deb's a hero. Love you, Deb. Her hospital system is a story that I think probably happened all over the country, right? So they sign a contract with the CDC. You're gonna be a vaccination center, and in order to do that, you have to report serious adverse events to the vaccine adverse event reporting system, right?

And there is a contract that has all of those serious adverse events of special interests that we all saw. And you have nurses across the country that saw these things happening, that were able to diagnose that as it's happening. So what's really interesting is that there are hospital systems, Deb's story specifically, they were given no training on VAERS whatsoever. They were given no information by their hospital administration on how to report these things, even though they're a vaccination center.

The level that the government went to to make sure that all of these tiny little areas and all these spots where information could leak would be silenced and secured is really impossible to try to put into words. You just have to kind of experience the film to see that. Because that's how that stuff works. And to your point, when you look at 30 years of VERS data and you have one year that is absolutely off the chart so much that they had to make the chart larger so that they could compensate for the amount, right?

And people would say, oh, well, that's just because there's a lot of people getting vaccinated and they're scared. And okay, but if you have an experimental product that's never been introduced into the human population, you don't know what's going to happen, you're using MRNNNNNA, you're using MRN technology to induce an immune response using your own genes to do so. That's a recipe for things to go wrong. That's why the autoimmunity is off the charts in the United States right now because people are still producing spike protein and it's attacking their myelin and their nerves and everything else. So it's incredible to me that inside of a scientific

experiment like that, that you're not going to collect all of that data. And that's what they did. They specifically didn't collect that data. And if anybody did collect that data and brought to him and said, well, what about this? Sorry, we don't see a signal here. I mean, it's shocking because even lay people that never thought about vaccines recognize that you just rushed this product onto the market, that you took an emergency use authorization, you yanked it out of the safety trials, which meant, and you told us, we know we're doing this. We're going to be very thorough on our post-marketing surveillance of this, because we know we are essentially turning all the world into a giant experiment now with

the product that we reported here had serious problems in the animal trials, causing disease enhancement actually killing many of the animals. This was not, this did not have an easy route here. It wasn't a redistribution of a vaccine we've used before. So when you talk about like Deborah Conrad to realize that you were supposed to be the surveillance system, but the people that were delivering it that would have had to be reported the surveillance system were never even told how to use it. No. And when Deb found out, she had to teach herself how to use VERS. So, and again, you know, if you don't know, I'm sure you guys, your audience knows, it takes an hour, it's a very long time. Yeah, and by the way, if the screen goes dead, you have to start over.

It raises the whole thing, you have to start all over again. I mean, this is designed for a busy doctor to sit down with each patient they think, how many times when it goes dead do you just say, oh, hell with this. I can't sit here for a whole hour. I'd like to be able walk away, go to a patient, come back and finish it. They didn't even design it to do that. I mean, the whole thing is just such an incredible scam that you would run. something on the market and not want to know what was happening. And you know what, Dale, what's really interesting is when you go to like the CDC website

and you look at the little infomercial that they use to describe how various works, watch that video. The very first 30 seconds of that video says the COVID-19 vaccines have been determined to be safe and effective. And then it goes on to tell you how to report serious adverse events. COVID-19 vaccines are safe and effective. The Centers for Disease Control and prevention and the Food and Drug Administration have many safety monitoring systems to make sure every vaccine is as safe as possible. One of these systems is VERS, the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. VERS accepts reports from anyone, patients, parents, caregivers, and health care providers.

Healthcare providers are required to report certain adverse events after vaccination. VERS studies reports of possible health problems, also called adverse events, after vaccination. VERS can't prove a vaccine caused a problem, but it acts as an early warning system to help CDC and FDA decide whether a potential safety issue exists. VERS reports patterns that warn scientists of possible health problems that might need more study. Vaccine safety experts look for unusually high numbers of health problems, or a pattern of problems after people get a particular vaccine. It's normal there will be some reports of health problems after people get a vaccination. However, most health problems found shortly after vaccination were not actually caused by the vaccine.

CDC closely monitors all data, including reports to VERS, to make sure all vaccines are as safe as possible. CDC and FDA use other vaccine safety systems to figure out if the health problem is caused by the vaccine or not. If it looks like a vaccine might be causing a problem, CDC and FDA will alert the public, investigate further, and take action. If you want to learn more about VERS, visit VAERS.h.h.S.gov. conflict of interest anybody? You know? I mean, that's what's so astonishing. In her hospital system, because she was the only person that figured out how to report to VERS, all the other doctors and nurses start giving her reports. So she's doing this around the clock. She's got a tote bag like this big.

Decides to make it a personal mission. I'll fill it out for you. I have the time, if you don't have the time, and then the hospital shut her down. Yeah, and shut her down. And it's like, that's insane. It's like, well, if you're a vaccination center, you should be the most predisposed to send this data. Right. And that's the other thing. The messaging around the COVID vaccines being completely safe and effective, no matter what, also prevented doctors all over the country from reporting things that didn't make sense. And they would get dismissed as, oh, you have anxiety, oh, it's in your head. It was like, no, my body's shut down. My nervous system is not working. My body's attacking me. And this started within hours of an experimental

product. And you're going to tell me, those are not related. I mean, as you know, that's another one. Causation doesn't, or what is it? Correlation does not equal causation. Right. That's something that makes sense in science. It's a protocol that you use to make sure you get in good data. Except when you have rushed an experimental gene therapy, turn it into a vaccine, had no time to see if it has ever worked in human beings, and are rushing it out for everyone to take. At that point, you know, you got to use, you know, a different system, which is guilty to prove an innocent. Every issue we see should be blamed on that vaccine until we can prove otherwise.

Exactly. Because it's an experiment. You're in an experiment. You don't, the manufacturer doesn't, you know, isn't allowed to say, well, we just think that would have happened normally. But what is so shocking, Matthew, and all this is it wasn't really the pharmaceutical industry. It's not Pfizer, you know, it's not Moderna. It's Peter Marks. It's the FDA.

It's our own regulatory agency heads hiding and covering the issues for a for-profit business that's making hundreds of billions of dollars and not listening. to the people, not standing there for the people, but a part of this cover-up. What is your hope that will come from this film? Well, and just before I answer that, to your point, I mean, what's the incentive to create a safe product if you are shielded from liability? Just with any business in the world, right? Well, so I don't, it doesn't matter if anybody's hurt. Nobody's going to hold me liable, so what do I care?

Yeah. So what I hope happens from this film is, number one, people get, these people need help. You know, React 19 is the only group that I'm aware of that's actually getting help to people that have been injured from the vaccines. Yeah. They're getting, you know, they're getting them help with medical issues, with doctors bills, with being able to get treatment, be able to get treatment to get these people out of wheelchairs. So we need to recognize that this is real. I think there are probably an uncalculable amount of people in the United States that actually were injured from this product and products and don't know it. Right.

Right? And they think it's something else and they're trying, they're on this. Chasing an autoimmune disease, you know, journey that's making no sense. Exactly. And not only that, but I hope that we awaken discernment in people again, right? Because this blind allegiance and trust to institutions just because we want to trust them is not the way to do it, you know? And I think one of the things with people is we have a tendency to believe the things that we feel good about. So if it, we're emotional beings. If something hits me and I'm like, oh, okay, I, I, I, I, register and resonate with that, I'll believe it. But if that doesn't fit well with me, if that seems scary, well, it can't be true. We have to fix that. That is not how you get to truth.

And that's not how we're going to make this country better. We're just shielding ourselves from responsibility. We have to look in the darkness. If you want there not to be darkness, your eyes are light. Wherever you put your eyes and your attention, darkness cannot exist. And we have to do that. And we have to talk to each other. I hope that, I hope that people all all across this country can start to heal the divides that they have. Because, I mean, not that we put a lot of that in the film, but what you, and I'm sure you know, the propaganda that our government was a part of divided the American people, divided families and friends.

I mean, I've lost lifelong friends in this process. And we have to fix that. We've got to reach out to people and let them know that we love them, we care about them, and that we can disagree, we can have different perspectives, but when you have two people have different perspectives that come together, that's when new perspectives happen. We just can't be afraid to talk to each other and listen to each other and have disagreements and still love and respect each other. That's not hard. Yeah, I agree. Look, it's an amazing film.

You're releasing March 15th as the premiere at the Directors Guild in... I know, it's crazy. That's the first film. This is the first feature film that I've ever done. And it's incredible to me. I mean, this is God definitely is moving on this one. And to be able to show a film that FeatureLink film, the first one I've ever made in the Directors Guild of America for, an art form that I have incredible respect and love for is amazing.

So, yeah, it's March 15th at the Directors Guild of America at 11 a.m., there's going to be a VIP experience after the show, and there's going to be nurses and physicians and people injured, there's going to be a Q&A. So we really invite everybody to come out, and especially if you have questions, because this is a great place in a community to just talk to people who will love you. won't judge you. Is there a place to sign up? I know there's going to be a release to the public after that or is there somewhere we can track when the film's actually coming out or to a theater near us or online? Yes, we're going to release in late April. I know we're going to do a Texas premiere. We're going to do something I believe at the Bob Bullock Theater.

But we'll have some more of that information soon. We'll update you as we get that after this festival premiere. All right. Sounds good. Matthew, congratulations. Thank you. Hey, it all started here in this room with you and these beautiful people. I sat in that control room. him. And I saw those first interviews with those nurses. And then I saw a Breeze Press conference in Wisconsin and God put it on my heart. And I knew that somebody had to do something. I just couldn't look away. So it all started right here, buddy. That's, well, and I'm so proud to you because when people ask, what is it that I can do? I always say you got to do what you're guided to do, but you got to say yes. Yeah. You know, there's, there's, you have a place in this

earth. There's something that you're here to do. So many people just go, oh, that's stupid. That's ridiculous. What can I really do? There's people like you. that take that step and just say, I'm chasing this. And so congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, brother.

All right. Well, speaking of deep dives, our own Jeffrey Jackson, Jeffrey Jackson Investigates, which is in a documentary series. He's covered polio, which was viral, part one and two. Now we're in mental health. We're in part two, which is only available at Highwire Plus. This is just our way of giving back to you, for those of you that donate and make all this possible. We want the Highwire to always be free.

We have all of this. We fight lawsuits. It's free. We are saving lives every single year. But it's only possible for those of you that donate and make this happen. And so for you, we've got Highwire Plus. And if you want to see what's at Highwire Plus, check out the latest episode of Jeffrey Jackson Investigates. Mental health.

Mental health crisis. Regardless of your gender or how you are. identify mental health is an important issue. Mental health is affecting all of us. What do you say to someone who is happy with what they do lives a fulfilled life, exercises, and is still depressed? What was mental health leading into the COVID pandemic? It was really bad. Things were falling apart before COVID. From somewhere around 2008, 2009, 2010, the rates at which people from their teens through the H. The H. T. H. T. T. H. T. T. T. T. T. T. We're saying, that things weren't right.

The population was prime. People with low psychological resilience can be led by fear very easily. I'm seeing more patients that kind of just can't handle life. The resilience is not there. Rosak became the IT drug of the 1990s. I ended up being an insider with people from the pharmaceutical companies.

The SSRI group of drugs, they're only antidepressants from a marketing point of view. That's when I became aware that the SSRIs could make people suicidal. A recent CDC study finds American teens are in a mental health crisis. The government's top doctor is warning about the effects of TikTok and other such sites on young people. Let's talk about social media. How is this played into mental health issues? The endless scrolling, the like button, and then seeing the number of followers.

Instead of now seeking outside affirmation from your two best friends, now you're seeking outside affirmation from the entire world. We've had so many people here that have talked about how psychedelics have helped with anxiety, PTSD, traumatic brain injury. When it comes to plant medicine, why do you think there's been such an interest? Honestly, because it works.

Ayahuasca completely saved my life. Why many doctors lost their ability to truly listen to their patients. The only thing for doctors to do is to prescribe it, and the only thing for patients to do is to take it. There is no interest in public health, even though it's a health industry, it's actually a disease industry,

That is a shocking statement. These are incredibly unique times that we live in now. We're watching history being made. We're watching our government move in ways we've never seen before. We're seeing statements from our regulatory agencies that we had dreamt, could be stated, over the last 50 years. But I want to say to you, I'm not here to tell you how you should act in these situations. A lot of people called in and have texted me and said,

Dell, shouldn't we be bringing pressure? Isn't that what Robert Kennedy Jr. needs is pressured on the government? Shouldn't we be upset at the language that we don't agree with so that maybe he can use that as energy? And I'll be honest, I can see it always. And I really don't know. What I do know is that the best thing that has worked for my life is to follow my own guidance. I believe, and I've said it before, that I'm a vessel to try and bring the truth. And sometimes it comes to me when I pray. Sometimes it comes to me when I'm on a walk. But oftentimes I wake up with, I know what the next right step I'm supposed to take today is.

We talked to Matthew Guthrie, who changed his whole life to make a documentary. It was suddenly drawn to this conversation around the COVID vaccines and the injuries and the people that were being gaslit. He left his career to take a risk because it just felt like the next right thing to do. What I want to say to you is you're allowed to be upset if you don't like what's coming out of the HHS. And if you feel like you're supposed to write about it or put a video out about it, by all means, do it. In fact, I can say this. What I know about Robert Kennedy Jr. He wouldn't want you self-censoring.

He's not expecting you to hide what you think. And I assure you when that article went out, he was well aware that a lot of us are going to be pissed off about it. He's doing what he thinks is right. Maybe he's doing the best he can under certain circumstances. We don't know the whole story. But what I do know is if we're going to make lasting change, we all have to be the best of ourselves right now. Don't just lash out because you think somebody owes you something. In fact, I would say that Robert Kennedy Jr. has done something we've never seen before.

So we could have zero. We could not have Robert Kennedy Jr. there and be back to a measles outbreak where the head of HHS is demanding an immediate. vaccine program for the entire country stating its epidemic and we all got to line up for an MMR shot. That's not happening. We're seeing something different happen. But by all means, do what you feel is right. Stop censoring yourself. If you feel like you're supposed to say something, if you're supposed to do something, if you feel a sense that you want to walk up and talk to that pregnant woman that's in the grocery aisle because you want to ask her, has she looked at the vaccine program. If something inside you says, I should have that conversation, have that

conversation. It's a free country. This country will work a lot better if we all get back to telling our truth, but recognize it's only your truth. There are other people around you that see it completely differently. They're your brothers and sisters and neighbors, mothers and fathers, two. If we're going to have lasting change, what we need to work on is how we talk about this, and how we share our truths and how we listen to one another. Robert Kennedy Jr. needs us to be the voices of the truth now more than ever. Sure, he has a bully pulpit at the moment, one that is surrounded by all sorts of government jackals that are going to be there, even when he leaves.

Can he do everything he dreams? He's certainly not going to be able to do it if we don't do our job. There's a reason we have a freedom of speech. There's a reason our founding father said this is a nation of, for, and by the people. Don't wait for the HHS secretary to change your world or to teach your neighbor. That's your job. That's my job. That's the High Wire's job.

And we'll be here every week doing the best that we can. I'll see you next week.