The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 423: HOMESTEAD REVOLUTION

Episode Date: May 10, 2025

Del recaps ICAN’s explosive D.C. press conference exposing former FDA official Dr. Peter Marks for blocking recognition and support for the COVID-19 vaccine injured. Jefferey Jaxen reports on the he...alth freedom movement sweeping U.S. states, a perplexing power outage in Spain and Portugal, and new fertility concerns tied to the COVID shot. Del is joined by John Miller to preview the 2025 Food Independence Summit: Seed to Spoon, celebrating America’s growing self-sufficiency movement.Guest: John MillerBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Have you noticed that this show doesn't have any commercials? I'm not selling you diapers or vitamins or smoothies or gasoline. That's because I don't want any corporate sponsors telling me what I can investigate or what I can say. Instead, you are our sponsors. This is a production by our nonprofit, the Informed Consent Action Network. So if you want more investigations, if you want landmark legal wins, If you want hard-hitting news, if you want the truth, go to ICandecide.org and donate now. All right, everyone, we ready?
Starting point is 00:00:43 Yeah. Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world. It's time for us all to step out into the high wire. Well, my entire team of Ican stepped onto the high wire in Washington, D.C. Just a few days ago. We finally got around and found the perfect timing and wind. to release the Peter Marks files, all the hidden secret recordings.
Starting point is 00:01:23 We did a show about this. We released it at the real petermarks.com. It's live right now. And you've never really seen anything like this. Sure, we've covered the videos on this show. We've gone through it. But at the real petermarks.com, what you see is what makes it so powerful?
Starting point is 00:01:40 What was the timeline that was happening? What was happening with the vaccine? Where were we at in the world? What were the PSAs that were being delivered? What was the CDC and FDA saying at the time that Peter Marks was taking these phone calls and video calls from people being injured by the vaccine? He knew how many there were. He knew what the real issue was, yet wouldn't describe it as a real injury. You see all of that unfolding.
Starting point is 00:02:03 And, of course, we're in Washington, D.C., delivering this inside of the press club there and the National Press Club and had the press there. We were live to the world. Thousands have looked at. I think we've over a hundred thousand people were watching. And the petition, which I want all of you to sign right now, we're demanding right now on behalf of the informed consent action network, that everybody signed this petition. This is a demand for transparency from the government.
Starting point is 00:02:31 All of the VERS data, all the data that's ever looked at for any study, any trial, any vaccine must immediately be made public. We wanted all public so that everyone can look at it, every scientist can deal with it, so we never find ourselves in this game of cat and mouse with someone that's acting like he works for regulatory agency, but is really just a shill for a rush product by the pharmaceutical industry. That's what you clearly see here.
Starting point is 00:02:54 That's what we laid out. Here's just a taste of how amazing that press conference was. Take a look. I want to thank everyone from the press. I want to thank everyone watching across America. We think this is a very important issue. Informed Consent Action Network has been dedicated to transparency when it comes to science, especially around the issues of vaccines.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Today we are launching a timeline over 25 pages, including multiple hours of secretly recorded videos, interactions between vaccine injured people and Peter Marks, along with all sorts of things in the timeline, what was actually being said in the news, what we were being told in public versus what was known behind the scenes. I don't think Dr. Marks ever expected that anybody would take all of these disparate communications and put them all together. Because when you do and you actually see what Dr. Marks was saying on the phone call with Ms. Dresson and all these doctors. And then what he's saying to the media, you can clearly see how discordant and often contradictory those are. Our group at React19.org, it's a registered nonprofit that advocates for people harmed by COVID vaccines. We've found over 36,000 people just in the U.S. that are dealing with these complications.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Only 4% of them have reported myocarditis or pericarditis. The vast majority are reporting some type of neurological event. React 19 and did an audit on the VAIR system with people that have filed VAERS reports, and we found that an incredibly small number of people actually would receive follow-up. The vast majority would not. This isn't like some other vaccine where we had a lot of information. We were told that Peter Marks and everyone at the FDA would be very thorough in looking at the post-marketing surveillance that was taking place since they knew we were taking
Starting point is 00:04:39 a risk. When you watch these videos, it's incredible the amount of gaslighting and really obfuscating answers in truth and seems to be no concern over the injuries they're being reported. This is the first Zoom call she has with Dr. Peter Marks. We've got thousands of people that are having issues with the neurological side effects to the COVID vaccines. Unfortunately, because we are not able to get any kind of acknowledgement or communication to the medical community that this is happening, we've got a lot of people across the country that are sick and showing up in ERs and medical clinics without any kind of proper acknowledgement or provisions of any sort to help them.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I'm just surprised that the neurologists aren't treating what they're seeing in front of them. You can start seeing how over time there's things you can put together in this puzzle that is very disturbing. I can't tell you how many times like I've been called misinformation in the doctor's office. We have continued to do our best here to try to understand things. We do continue to carefully monitor safety and I will tell you that there is nothing that I care about. that I care about more than making sure that we have safe vaccines. Dr. Lee, her patients were injured, and she was willing and brave enough to send a letter to the FDA.
Starting point is 00:05:52 She developed hemorrhagic shock. She bled and bled and bled. Peter Marks is starting to get frustrated. And the strange thing is, is the information that Pfizer published is this, it really mirrors the demographics and the syndromes that we said to do. Yeah, I'm really sorry, but I'm gonna have to,
Starting point is 00:06:07 I think we have a path forward. I'm sorry, I do have to go. But I don't, I'm not sure that I, I think we're pretty confident. And you know what? It'll come out in the wash and you'll see. I don't think there's anything being hidden here. I want you to think about the fact that they told us.
Starting point is 00:06:24 They knew they were going to be very transparent with how they saw the VAR's system, that they were going to be using post-marketing data, they were going to be studying everything. And here you have an individual that's put together a nonprofit to start collecting thousands of people or contacting them with the same injuries. And not one of them was ever investigated by our FDA, CDC, NIH. Nobody cared. We'll take a few questions if anyone has any questions. We have a few minutes for that.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yes. Lauren Lovner, the Washington, please. Sarah of all home CNN. David Hilsenraff with KFF Health News. Do you believe that COVID-19 vaccines harmed more people than they helped? What is the specific ask of the FDA right now? What do you hope to accomplish with this presentation?
Starting point is 00:07:06 What do you hope results? Well, I think first of all, all we've been fighting for with informed consent action is transparency from a regulatory agencies. And I think what you see here is an FDA, one of the heads of FDA that's certainly in charge of this vaccine program, was jumping up and down with pom-poms, even in the phase two of this trial. He was the one that said Operation Warp Speed. I don't think we want the heads of our regulatory agencies jumping up and down and promising that a brand new technology will make it to the market. What they should be saying is we are going to be critical of it. We are going to use the scientific method. We're going to ask hard questions. We're not going to promise you anything.
Starting point is 00:07:43 When you start having regulatory agencies promising a product that isn't even through its safety trials, that they're going to get it out as fast as possible, you now have a biased head of your regulatory agencies, and now America's in danger. And that's what we're showing here. What specifically do you want to see happen with COVID-19 vaccines in terms of recommendations and guidance? We've been told now for over four years this product is safe. So if it's safe, why do the manufacturer need immunity for the liability? Prep Act immunity should be lifted immediately. That's the first thing that should happen.
Starting point is 00:08:13 The only consumer product, the only one where you cannot sue for design defect claims in America are vaccines. The product they tell you is safe. So it's time to lift that immunity. After all, pharma has made billions of dollars on this product. And if that's not sufficient to pay for the injuries that they say don't happen, that's a problem. Does Secretary Kennedy also believe that the Pfizer and Moderna COVID vaccines should be removed from the market? I don't know. I can't speak for Secretary Kennedy. I do know what he has said publicly, which is he does believe.
Starting point is 00:08:43 that the science needs to be looked at very seriously. He says he's looking at it, especially for children who have such a low rate of risk for death. 0.00027% as related to all the world data, that's zero. They have no risk from the disease. So I think right there, it's very easy to make an assessment that this product is not safe enough for children. I think we have to look at across the board though. Pregnant women, where are the studies on pregnant women? Should they be getting it? You hear the horrific story by Dr. Lee, how many pregnant women? We're seeing rises in fertility. issues. We're seeing, you know, miscarriage issues. These are things that should not be brushed aside. These are things that need to be investigated right away. Are you suggesting that the FDA needs to
Starting point is 00:09:22 reevaluate its licensure of those vaccines for teens, adults, and children? I think the FDA is under an obligation to evaluate the licensure of any and all of its products continuously, right? And so if at any point the FDA reaches the conclusion that in fact they made a wrong decision, then yes, they're supposed to reevaluate that. That's true of any product. better licenses. I would like to see the FDA actually remove this from recommendation. I think there's enough science around the world and say it's available to the public. Doctors can give it, but the FDA is no longer standing behind the recommendation because there's just too much science around the world, showing too many issues. I want to thank everyone for coming today. Obviously this was about
Starting point is 00:10:01 Dr. Peter Marks and the COVID vaccine. And I want to thank for you address and all the work you're doing with React 19. We need a lot of help on this issue. I was amazing, Ben. If you want to watch that, I think it was about an hour and 20 minutes long, that's obviously available at the highwire.com. It's at the top of the trending page. You can see it there. Share it with your friends. It was a dynamic event and very unique how we put it together. But even more importantly, we're live right now, anyone. You can tell all your friends, everyone you know, every doc you know, go to the real petermarks.com. And there you can see the entire timeline. Click on any video. You can watch the full length, the short versions, all of it's there for you to peruse and share it with everyone you know and please especially right now we've
Starting point is 00:10:44 such an active audience every you know just the other day someone that been on the show said you know I had tried to get my documentary scene and so many it was on CNN all these major news agencies when I was on the high wire your people are active they watched my film they shared my film so right now these petitions matter so please sign this petition get everyone you know to sign this petition and we're going to deliver it straight to them we're going to certainly make sure that Robert Kennedy Jr. HHS Secretary sees it, but we really want transparency now. We want to show how much the public cares about transparency and science. This is a new paradigm we're setting here in America. Health is changing as we speak, and we're at the forefront of making
Starting point is 00:11:23 that happen. I have an awesome show coming up. I'm really excited for a topic. There's a homesteading revolution going on across this country. I think the fact that eggs got really expensive, everyone said, maybe I should just build a chicken coop. I have one, and it's one of the easiest things I've ever done. It's like, you know, all of a sudden you have chickens. You're like, I have made protein right in my own backyard. But I'm going to be speaking with John Miller, who grew up Amish, then went out, struck out on his own, was very successful businessman, but has come all the way back around to the Amish to Canning and all these different ideas. And he runs one of the biggest conferences in the world on this issue, Seed to Spoon, which is coming up June 18th and 19th.
Starting point is 00:12:03 We're going to talk about that conference. I want to talk to him a little bit about what does it mean to be honest, why are they so good at these things and are we losing these traditions? Can we bring them back? So super interesting conversation coming up in just a minute. But first is time for the Jackson Report. Do you garden or anything like that, Jeffrey? You got any homesteading going on around your house? I absolutely do. In fact, my hands are probably dirty right now because I was doing it this is the morning. All right. A lot of rain here, so I'm working on it. Very good. Very good. I have two. I have like eight box. I built them, all these beautiful cedar boxes ready to go. And been empty for about six months because I realized, Del, you are so busy.
Starting point is 00:12:51 But hopefully I'm going to get around to it. I'm going to get some help and some friends make it happen. But the idea is there. I got the boxes. I know a lot of people know what I'm talking about. The idea is there. Just got to find the time in my schedule. This is the time.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And like the rest of the country, there's massive opportunity right now. But there's also some dire need for change in a lot of areas. One of them is gain of function research that's still ongoing, that we're still funding here in the United States. the coronavirus, bird flu, monkeypox, these all have signs of lab origins that we've covered here on the show. And what does that mean gain of function? Obviously, altering these genetically by the human hand to make these extremely dangerous viruses even more virulent, even more deadly. And that is what Trump and HHS Secretary Kennedy have now looked to put an end to. This is the New York Post
Starting point is 00:13:39 headline Trump bans risky and controversial virus research that likely led to the COVID pandemic. And this This is Secretary Kennedy on a recent interview, really going over the origins of the U.S. gain of function. And this is so refreshing because we've been hearing a lot, obviously, from Fauci and Gates over the last five years about how great this gain of function work is and how dire it is. But this is a different view. Take a listen. All right. Gain of function studies a kind of science that is designed to make microbes and pathogens more virulent, more transmissible, and more deadly. It was in this country, they started doing it in 1947, the military and the intelligence agencies, in order to develop bio-weapons.
Starting point is 00:14:25 In 1969, President Nixon banned at all, shut down Ford Dietrich, shut down all the labs, and then signed the Bio-Weapons Convention. That ban lasted until 2001. And after the anthrax attacks, Anthony Fauci began, essentially restarted the arms race. and the bio-weapons arms raised and did it under the pretension of developing vaccines because of the same science that you develop bio-weapons and vaccines. In 2014, three of his bugs escaped, and 300 scientists wrote letters to President Obama asking him to shut down Anthony Fauci. President Obama declared a moratorium,
Starting point is 00:15:05 but instead of shutting down his experiments, he moved them offshore, mainly to the Wuhan Lab. And now, you know, the principal institutions of our government, the CIA, the FBI, the State Department, Department of Energy all say that it is most likely that those experiments resulted in the COVID-19 pandemic beginning in 2019. So President Trump today moved to shut down this kind of research in this country and to stop funding it abroad. I don't know if it sinks in on people how big a deal this is. When you think about John F. Kennedy, really working with Khrushchev to end the nuclear arms race, this is the nuclear arms race of our times. This gain of function thing is absolutely terrifying.
Starting point is 00:15:53 It's horrifying. I've had Dr. Peter McCullough that is talking about the bird flu and some of the things. Those are all being built in labs and maybe a part of the epidemics that we're seeing start. I mean, just time and time again, stories of these labs, they can't. cannot make them, you know, tight enough. And you're talking about they're building weapons, weapons of mass destruction that can just leak out on the sleeve or in the nasal passages of someone working on it. And then, you know, and then what happens. So for what it's worth, and it's also the developing vaccines right next to it, this is such a moment. And it also shows,
Starting point is 00:16:28 I think, when his questions, you know, Robert Kennedy Jr., Donald Trump really aligned, this is a huge things these two guys are doing together. And boy, what a difference from just, you know, a year ago in the last administration where we're at and the types of things we're seeing now in this space. It's very exciting. And words like arms race, bio-weapons, this is the proper context. We should have been looking at this stuff of experimentation. And so let's go behind the headlines with this executive order from President Trump. So it technically ends federal funding of gain-of-function research by foreign entities and countries of concern like China. It's also ending or stopping the halting that would be a better word. The research here in the
Starting point is 00:17:06 States for four months and in that four months they're completely revamping the framework what they're trying to do is add more independent oversight more public transparency more um basically enforcement mechanisms and audits so this stuff will never happen again so this is this is this is this is this again a big ship that's turning in the middle of the sea right now we've never really seen anything like this in the united states since its inception of the gain of function of research so a gigantic move and then let's move Moving on, let's stick at that federal level. So we have the Trump's prior pick as Surgeon General, Janet Neshawitt. She has stepped down or there's word that Trump has pulled that pick, replacing now with Dr.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Casey Means. Dr. Casey Means, Secretary Kennedy credited her in the run-up to the election and her appearances on Joe Rogan and Tucker Carlson is helping to really draw attention to this chronic health situation, the issues in America here. So now she basically is going to be confirmed by the Senate, or at least she faces the Senate, for confirmation at some point. Again, we still even have a CDC director yet. So there's still things moving in the background.
Starting point is 00:18:19 But we also have, speaking of Peter Marks, his job opening that he's been unemployed from is been sitting open. That has been now filled by Dr. Veney Prasad. He is now taking over that FDA lead biologics vaccine division. So that is another confirmation that will be happening, or at least the hearings will be happening. So that's at the federal level. Those are the picks. A lot of things moving there.
Starting point is 00:18:42 But there's not many headlines on the state action is happening. And there's many people that probably don't want those headlines, don't want the public in their state to be focused and activated. But we're going to do that here. So in Iowa, if you're in Iowa, you may be in a little luck if you like vaccine exemptions because there's a bill requiring Iowa schools to disclose vaccine exemption. that's now headed to their governor's desk. So a lot of parents never even understand they have a choice to not consent to the vaccinations for their children to go to school. A lot of times it's not in the forms that school doesn't tell you you have a choice in Iowa. Now you do have a choice. That's amazing. I love that. I love that so much because so many people say to me,
Starting point is 00:19:23 you know, how do I opt, you know, I'm being forced to vaccinate. Like, what state do you live in? There's only, you know, five states right now that you're actually forced to vaccinate. and most times they're not, but they just don't know it. Iowa taking this step to inform you, to actually let you know. By the way, just so you know, you can opt out of this program. I think that's a huge, awesome step. I'd love to see more states doing exactly that. The epitome of informed consent at that point.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Nine other states, here's another headline. Nine other states weigh bills to establish or expand exemptions to school vaccine mandates. We have here in Massachusetts, that is not one of the states. In fact, they're going in the opposite direction. They have a bill here. It's a double bill, a companion bill, H2554 and S-1557. These bills are both working to eliminate the religious exemption for school-required vaccinations. So, you know, they're effectively barring children from attending school. They don't give them that option. Then there's another bill that's actually moving through as well. This is S-1618. And this is minors, minor consent bill again. Minors consent to preventative care, including vaccination. without parental consent or knowledge. I mean, with the potential dangers associated with our health system that we know it, it's hard to imagine as a country
Starting point is 00:20:37 that we're still entertaining this conversation of just letting children of any age free fall with their eyes closed into consent without parental knowledge of that happening. But here we are. Let's move to Florida. This is a headline up at the highwire.com. Florida has become the second state following Utah
Starting point is 00:20:55 to ban water fluoridation. That's moving across the country. Now that ripple effect is moving very, very fast to get water. Well, that was very fast. I mean, it was just like a week or two ago, you were talking about how some of the counties were pushing back, even though the people wanted.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So DeSantis just come in and just said, nope, statewide? Yeah, absolutely. Amazing, amazing. Amazing. It was a bill not to put any basically medication in the water. So it's true. Medicaid, not Medicaid was kind of the rally cry in Florida before this bill.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But then let's go to the corporate level. Now, we've covered, for so many years here, activist mothers making petitions to bring to companies, I mean, like Boni Hari, to get them to take ingredients that are banned in other countries out of our food here in the United States. Now the companies are starting to do it for us. One of the biggest companies, PepsiCo is, and this was not really a public conversation, a public headline. This was their quarter one, 2025 earnings call with their investors and their shareholders. And they were asked on this call, hey, the SNAP program, you really, you really,
Starting point is 00:22:00 need to get that the artificial colors out of the SNAP program we notice a lot of your a lot of your food has that what you're going to do about that so this is what the head one of the heads of the Pepsi co company said he said we are already we already have a portfolio when we talk about the u.s and the food business 60 plus percent of our business today doesn't have any artificial colors so we're well undergoing that transition and for example brands like lays will be out of artificial colors by the end of the year and same with tocitos some of our big brands goes on to say ideally we can do this in a very pragmatic and orchestrated way as an industry and not create unnecessary panic or chaos and they're talking to shareholders because that's bad for shareholders he says
Starting point is 00:22:38 but we'll lead this that transition in the next couple of years will have migrated all the portfolio into natural colors or at least provide the consumer with natural color options del remember i mean this is where the the rubber meets the road bear did not inform their shareholders of the risk of taking glyphosate the the cancer-causing weak killer or over, their shareholders sued bear. So these corporations, they're seeing which way the wind goes and they're going, look, we're doing this. No need for chaos.
Starting point is 00:23:08 We're going to take care of it. Now, can we trust them? We're always going to hold their feet to the fire. But this is a big move. They're actually self-correcting on their own because of federal pressure. I'd like to recommend to them while you're at it, since you can go ahead and change the ingredients,
Starting point is 00:23:20 why don't you go ahead and reduce the sugar so that one can of soda isn't already breaking beyond your daily allowance of sugar. These are things that need to change. immediately. So hey, PepsiCo, great. While you're at it, while we go ahead and bring that sugar down to a realistic margin where it can actually be a treat and not my entire daily allowance so that I'm just driving everybody into diabetes. So that'd be a great next step. While you get ahead of the thing there, but look, hats off to PepsiCo for announcing this to working on this.
Starting point is 00:23:47 You know, these are the types of changes we like to see. It's very exciting. I think, you know, for those of us, though, there's always more to do and it should be happening faster. Absolutely. A major event happened in Europe last week. And if you're not in Europe, you probably had no idea what was going on, probably woke up that morning. This was April 28th. Turn your lights on here in the United States and went, wow, those lights are nice and
Starting point is 00:24:09 they turned on great. Well, in Europe, if you're in Spain or Portugal, this is what your reality look like. Large parts of the Iberian Peninsula have been hit by a major power outage. An unprecedented blackout brought much of Spain and Portugal to a stand. earlier this week. Millions of people across Spain and Portugal are without power this morning in one of the biggest blackouts Europe has ever seen. The outage caused internet and phone networks to go down, halted trains, shut down traffic lights and caused major delays at airports. It seems that metro, subway, underground systems across the peninsula are out of action. Schools, businesses, shops,
Starting point is 00:24:46 restaurants, all of those, of course, coming to a standstill with people struggling to figure out what's next. All of our lives are completely dependent on this. And so for people who are trying to go about their work, go about, just live their normal life. It's going to be very, very difficult. The Portuguese National Cyber Security Center issued a statement saying there was no sign the outage was due to a cyber attack. The mayor of Madrid appealing to people to please proceed calmly, to be careful, because that is how much life has come to a standstill. And no clear answer as to when these services will be restored or why they were even cut in the first place.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah, there's a crazy story watching that break. It's weird when you're like not just one country, but multiple countries. We're not talking cities, we're talking countries. Yeah, entire grid down collapse in the country. That is really unprecedented until modern times, really within the last couple months, we're starting to see this. And it wasn't just Spain and Portugal. So going into these articles, I want to paint this picture of how massive this problem was in this situation was that, you know, the news cycle is so fast,
Starting point is 00:25:49 these get brushed under the rug, but goes in this article that says the full A whole list of countries hit by Europe's massive power cuts. It wasn't just the Iberian Peninsula. Parts of southwest France reported brief outages to, especially close to the Spanish border. French authorities acted fast trying to reroute electricity to help their neighbors. Their quick moves helped stop things from getting worse, but it was a clear sign of just how tightly Europe's power grids are linked these days. Germany and Italy also saw short-lived disruptions, although they managed to recover faster.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Over in Andorra, wedged between France and Spain, locals also found themselves. without power for parts of the day. It's worth noting that while these countries weren't hit as hard as Spain and Portugal, the effects still rippled across their systems causing small but significant problems. So now we get into the investigation. What the heck happened?
Starting point is 00:26:36 Because you're saying this, it's not cyber attacks, but when you're seeing it on that large of a swath of countries, grids down, there was reports when it first happened of weather phenomenon, perhaps something solar-related. And when we talk about that, when we talk about such a large portion of, of a country going down like that in a grid, we have to look at the sun, the solar flares from the sun.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And when directed at Earth, these solar flares can create massive disturbances to the magnetic field that surrounds our planet, which translates in all types of effects, including effects of radio transmissions, but also power outages. So we have what's called a K index. We can actually measure this.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And this K index, we can see on the days leading up to that and after April 28th, this is a scale detecting the fluctuations in the Earth's magnetic field from the solar events. And you can see there was a six there. You have a seven. Those are just basically moderate geometric storms. But then on the day it happened, four was just active magnetic effects.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So nothing really major. So because you're not seeing anything there, we start to move on a little bit and go, okay, well, are there any more evidence we can just rule that out? Well, the U.S. Embassy gives us the final piece of evidence. We can probably really rule that out. And the U.S. Embassy put out an alert on the day that happened. This was to U.S. citizens. And it said the consular agencies in Palma de Malarca and Balearic Islands and Las Palma's Canary Islands are operating as normal.
Starting point is 00:28:03 So I want to show you a map here. What does that mean? We have Spain and Portugal there to the left. There's Palma, there's Balec Islands, those little islands right off the coast. If you had a weather phenomenon, solar weather phenomenon, everything would be knocked out. That little island with his tiny grid would not stand a chance. So we're not talking weather phenomenon at this point. We're not talking cyber attacks. Let's look further into this investigation here. And we look at this article. There was a warning as Spain suffered multiple incidents in buildup to the full blackout.
Starting point is 00:28:33 So now we have this piece of information. It says a power cut disrupted railway signals and stranded at least 10 high speed trains near Madrid on April 22nd. So almost a week before, transport minister Oscar Puente said, excessive voltage in the power network that triggered disconnections to protect substations. On the same day, rest poles, that's their largest energy company in that country in Spain. Cardena refinery saw its operations disrupted by power supply problems.
Starting point is 00:29:02 So April 22nd, you're seeing these surges, these problems. What else happened on April 22nd in Spain? Well, we go to this headline. Spain hits first weekday of 100% renewable power on national grid. So now we have our culprit. And we have Red Electrica. This is the National Electricity Grid in Spain. And they came out with this article.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Two months ago, Red Electra acknowledged to investors the risk of disconnections in the system due to high penetration of renewables. That's wind and solar power. It says Red Electra this morning ruled out the possibility that yesterday's blackout was caused by a cyber attack or an anomalous atmospheric phenomenon, as initially considered. Everything now points to a failure in the, of the electrical system itself, which resulted in a total collapse following two consecutive disconnections at generating plants in the southwest of the country.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Now, they said to investors in February of 2024, this. They said, the closure of conventional generation plants such as coal, combined cycle, and nuclear as a result of regulatory requirements entails a reduction in the firm capacity and balancing capabilities of the electrical system, as well as its strength and inertia. The company acknowledged in a report it's submitted to the market. They said this could increase the risk of operational incidents that could affect the company's supply and reputation. This incident poses a risk with a short to medium term time horizon. The company stated, well, short to medium term time horizon.
Starting point is 00:30:29 They're right on target. So that company is very accurate with that prediction. We lost it. We're 100% renewable. Oh, no. Send out the press release to the investors. Again, this is them talking to their investors. going, look, this might hurt our reputation.
Starting point is 00:30:46 We're switching with these renewables because of regulatory requirements, but we've got a short-term problem here. And so they introduced, there's a word there that's introduced. So we know when, we know solar, we know renewables. But going beyond that, there's a term called inertia. There's inertia in the system. These are massive electrical systems.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And the problem with inertia is not just a Spain or Portugal problem. This is a problem throughout Europe as well. And this is in the telegraph. A power engineer wrote an article in op-ed. He said, I'm a power engineer. The Iberian grid collapse makes me very a fade for Britain. And he goes on to kind of educate.
Starting point is 00:31:20 He says at the time the grid was producing 28.4 gigawatts of power, of which 79% was solar and wind. That was a problematic situation, as solar and wind plants have another not widely known downside, one quite apart from their intimacy and expense. This is the fact that they do not supply any inertia to the grid. Thermal power plants, coal, gas, nuclear, for example, drive large, spinning generators, which are directly synchronously connected to the grid. If there are changes which cause a difference between demand and supply, the generators will start to spin faster or
Starting point is 00:31:55 slower. But their inertia resists this process, meaning that the frequency of the alternating current in the grid changes only slowly. There is time for the grid managers to act, matching supply to demand and keeping the grid frequency within limits. And it goes on to say this. besides Spain and Portugal, there are places where things are worse with the inertia. The UK and Ireland are island grids. They have undersea power interconnectors to Europe. But these are non-synchronous DC links and transmit no grid inertia inertia. There's little prospect that this will change. So you have this inertia able to stop and start and slow and speed up as the solar comes in. And what happened in Spain is when the solar hit during the middle of the
Starting point is 00:32:40 day when they had all of the sun, it just tripped out the entire system because it was too much and they didn't have enough inertia to downregulate that system. So this is what this is what potential may happen in the UK, in Ireland, throughout other countries in Europe. You can start seeing headlines now. There's like a big backtrack from this net zero energy, this revolutionary energy we were told to really free us from everything. National Grid Chief raised alarm over speed of net zero. That's in the UK. Then another headline in the telegraph, the glory days of net zero are thankfully over. So in Europe, the worm is turning, as they say, they're really starting to look at net zero in a different way, especially in Spain and Portugal. The United States
Starting point is 00:33:19 here, the United Nations General Assembly meeting from just a couple months ago, our envoy to the United States said this. We, however, have decided to call a vote on this resolution. We have a concern that this resolution reaffirms the agenda 2030 on the Sustainable Development Goals, Although framed in neutral language, Agenda 2030 in the SDGs advance a program of soft global governance that is inconsistent with U.S. sovereignty and adverse the rights and interests of Americans. In the last U.S. election, the mandate of the American people is clear. The government of the United States must refocus on the interests of Americans.
Starting point is 00:33:55 We must care first and foremost for our own. That was our moral and civic duty. President Trump also made it clear and overdue course correction on gender and climate ideology which has pervade the SDGs. Simply put, the globalist endeavors like agenda 2030 and the SDGs lost at the ballot box. Therefore, the United States rejects and denounces the agenda 2030 for sustainable development and the sustainable development goals and will no longer reaffirm them as a matter of course. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:23 It's, yeah. That's the agenda 30, 2030 sustainable development goals. This is this rapid net zero transition that has been really supercharged under the the Biden administration and what we see the end result in Spain and Portugal, these are the end results of this. We have grids that aren't able to basically don't have the inertia to deal with real world transitions of this solar. It's moving way, way too fast. So that's the U.S. putting the stick in the ground and saying we're slowing it down, we're stopping it for now until we can really reassess what this will do to our country and our sovereignty. Well, I mean, you think if that
Starting point is 00:34:59 happens, you know, during an ice storm, people freeze a dip. It happens during a heat wave, people, you know, are just, you know, elderly especially going to meet serious risk. You know, I'm all about diversity and energy, obviously. We want clean air, clean water, clean food. We've talked about all the time. But we have to be reasonable, and we cannot put ourselves at risk. And we've talked so much about how so much of this just seems like a move towards eugenics, reducing population, reducing the power of the people, to have a voice, to have a life,
Starting point is 00:35:29 to just be struggling. Everyone will rent. All these W-E-F ideas are obviously bluepiles. blowing up and it's good to see it. Let's get back to being individuals and being reasonable. Yeah, and as we're reshuffling the deck with our health agencies, the leadership at our health agencies, we're still waiting for the CDC for ahead of the CDC.
Starting point is 00:35:48 We have the conversation that we cover here so long around COVID and the COVID vaccine. And the vaccine is still out there, the recommendations are still out there, namely for children and for pregnant women and for people trying to get pregnant, men and women as far as their fertility. And that's still a conversation because these are still good. These shots are still going into arms and we have conversations about this. If you go to the CDC, it says this when you're talking about pregnancy or trying to get pregnant.
Starting point is 00:36:15 The CDC's webpage says there's no evidence that COVID-19 vaccines affect fertility. There is currently no evidence that the vaccine ingredients or antibodies made following COVID-19 vaccination would cause any problems with becoming pregnant now or in the future. Well, isn't that something? Well, there is evidence of that. And I really obviously need people to pay attention here. because this goes a little bit into the science, but this is so informative. And this is so dire, this conversation because it's not been really properly addressed
Starting point is 00:36:43 because the former FDA officials really just turned a blind eye to this. So in 2021, we had confidential data from the Japanese researchers from Pfizer. The Pfizer submitted their data for the COVID vaccine to the Japanese government. This was confidential information, a FOIA request made that public. And this is the document I want to show people. We've shown this a lot of times. It's a chart. It's a pharmacoconetic chart. This is where the lipid nanoparticles go. Lipid nanoparticles are those little encapsulated molecules in the vaccine, and that goes into, and you can see highlighted there, ovaries. That is the second highest abundance
Starting point is 00:37:22 of these lipid nanoparticle concentrations in 48 hours after the injection, second only to the spleen. So you have this hyperconcentration of this new technology going right to the ovaries in 48 hours and hyper-concentrating there. And people that are watching or maybe the first time, think of the lipid nanoparticle, like a little UFO, that carries the MRNA technology into the body, delivers it to the cell, delivers it as in this case we're seeing into soft tissues, organs, ovary is a huge problem, the heart muscle,
Starting point is 00:37:51 something Brett Weinstein, go back and watch my interview with him, super horrifying, as he's saying, it's not just the spike protein, it's this delivery system, the MRI technology, the way it works. It doesn't matter if it's spike protein, It's taking any foreign protein, which is how they expect this vaccine to work and delivering it all over the body to the brain, to the heart, to your organs, to your ovaries, only to then have your immune system attacking what it naturally does. Foreign protein, it attacks it, but now it's attacking your heart. Now it's attacking all different issues. Is that what happening?
Starting point is 00:38:21 The ovaries, not sure, you know, but these are the issues. We're seeing all sorts of problems. This technology is a disaster, and it's terrifying how many mRNA vaccines are in the pipeline right now rushing our. away, which is why Jeffrey, we have work to do right now. I think one of the most dangerous vaccine technologies of all times is being fast-tracks on multiple, multiple levels right now. Right. And so moving into this evidence even further, so the public may say, or people watching this may say, well, you just have some lipididantant particles in the ovaries. They're perfectly safe. All the science has shown that. Well, the FDA was not doing the science, and they weren't requiring
Starting point is 00:38:58 Pfizer to do the science. So we had actual University of Illinois researchers. who were speaking on Twitter basically, and people are saying, women were saying my menstrual cycle is changing. So they decided to do a survey. And this is the article in 2021. In survey COVID-19 vaccine recipients report changes in menstrual bleeding.
Starting point is 00:39:15 So we saw that, but so many people were talking about this. And so they put out a survey and turns out that survey turned into a study turned into, there are problems and there are increases, decreases, just changes in that cycle. But then we go to open VERS. And this is where this red warning sign
Starting point is 00:39:31 continually comes from this database. And this is an underreported database. Here's the reports of miscarriages and stillbirths by year. Notice since 1990, really nothing to speak of. In 2008, you had a spike there. That could be the HPV vaccine. But then 2021, the largest increase straight through the roof all the way up. And then you go to the next one, reports of menstrual and hemorrhages by year,
Starting point is 00:39:56 menstrual cycle issues and hemorrhages by year. It mirrors that above chart. It literally mirrors the miscarriages. Yeah. And you can see nothing since 19. And so those are two, I mean, there's your signals there, CDC. And now we have the study. I'm building this conversation up.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I'm showing you the evidence to present this study. This is out of the Czech Republic. This is a preprint. It's not peer reviewed. That's the caveat. Rates of successful conceptions according to COVID-19 vaccination status, data from the Czech Republic. And we go into the results here.
Starting point is 00:40:25 During the study period, there were approximately 1.3 million women age, 18 to 39 years in the Czech Republic. And the proportion of COVID-19 vaccinated women increased until reaching a steady state of around 70% by the end of 2021. During the entire study period, successful conceptions per 1,000 women were considered lower for women who were vaccinated compared to those who were unvaccinated before successful conception. Furthermore, successful conception rates for the vaccinated group are generally much lower than expected based on the proportion of the total population. So they're saying two things that are saying Vax first unvax. The unvaccinated had a much easier time, much more successful at conceiving, but also just compared to the entire population, they also unvaccinated had a better chance.
Starting point is 00:41:12 And you go into this study and you can see this graph here, basically everything I just said there is in a graph form. And you can see when it's looking through this, it shows that dark, those dark bars are the vaccinated. And you can see around the middle of 2021, it starts to. increase and then it gets to a baseline and then just follows that all the way across to 2023. The clear line is the unvaccinated. You can see across every metric, the unvaccinated is performing better at successful conceptions. So remember the CDC's website, it only links to one study to prove
Starting point is 00:41:48 that COVID-19 vaccinations don't affect the likelihood of becoming pregnant. She says one study. And this This current study out of the Czech Republic targets the CDC study, and it says this about it. And we're going back into this article, it says, to our knowledge, the relationship between COVID-19 vaccination status and rates of successful conceptions has not been examined previously on a population level. However, a prospective cohort study, the CDC study, of pregnancy planners, 2,126 women in the U.S. and Canada, indicated that preconception COVID-19 vaccination did not influence the probability of successful conception, albeit that study only included women who were trying to conceive, but was also limited by use of self-reported vaccination status.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Contrary to these findings, our real-world population data from the Czech Republic indicated that COVID-19 vaccination was linked to substantial decreases in successful conception rates compared to non-vaccinated women. And Dell, just to follow this up and end this segment on this note, we have menstrual issues and cycle changes with women now in the flu vaccine. This is a new study coming out this week in JAMA. Menstrual cycle length changes following vaccination against influenza alone or with COVID-19 vaccines. So now we're moving on to other vaccines.
Starting point is 00:43:03 How many other vaccines are changing the cycles of women and the menstrual cycles? What's going on here? Why hasn't this been studied until right now? This is the questions that we need to answer. Absolutely. I mean, this is the problem with the way science has been working, you know, is that, first of all, oh, well, it's just dementia. It's not really happening.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Oh, maybe it's happening, but don't worry about it. I'm sure it's fine, not a big deal. And then once we know it's happening, are you going to study why it's happening? If you can't figure out why, what else is this thing doing? It's throwing bodies out of whack. This can't be good. Then, you know, we start seeing rising cancer fertility issues all over the place. It's that sort of arrogance I've been talking a lot about, you know, that arrogance
Starting point is 00:43:41 from medicine and science to just march forward without ever like looking at any anomaly we should be really worried about it. Like, why is that happening? Careful. Whoa, hold on. Maybe we should back off. Back off pregnant to women for a second. Let's figure what's going on here. Not here in America. Certainly not in, you know, in modern medicine and scientists. Push ahead. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:43:59 I mean, look, if we make every woman sterile, we'll work it out. Oh, wait a minute. Did we give everyone the vaccine? Did everyone get it? Uh-oh. Whoops. I mean, I said it at that press conference in Washington, D.C. at the National Press Club. I said, look, I'm pretty sure that the science is already showing that the COVID vaccine is a disaster. But let's be clear. Even if it doesn't, here's the point we're trying to make an informed consent action network. If we keep allowing the pharmaceutical industry or any science groups to rush products on the market without a single double-blind placebo trial, no proper long-term safety trials, then it is just a matter of time before we make a colossal catastrophic mistake and wipe our species out. Everyone knows we need to be looking at any product long-term,
Starting point is 00:44:43 and we start just erasing that and saying, hey, five days for the hepatitis B vaccine, let's just make everything a five-day safety trial. Back, just put it all in the market. Why have safety trials? Our species is not long for this world if we keep doing things that way. Absolutely. And, you know, we already are facing, a lot of countries are facing a major collapse in fertility. And that's obviously started way before the COVID vaccine was given out.
Starting point is 00:45:04 You have President Trump saying we're going to give possibly money to mothers to have more children. How about we look at the health causes? We look at this issue because we're giving a vaccine or vaccines plural. We don't even know that are affecting fertility. We could change that piece right now if we wanted to. Yeah, absolutely. Well, that's the work that we're doing. And look, we're making huge strides. As I've said, everyone stay focused, stay on it, pedal the metal, take no prisoners. Now is our time. Jeffrey, thank you. Amazing reporting. As always, I'll see you next week. All right, thank you. Let's just take this moment to say this is what we do here, right?
Starting point is 00:45:39 We've been on this. We've been reporting on this from the very beginning. The second we started seeing menstrual issues, we had people on the show discussing it. We were warning you. So when I run into people now, you know, even journalists. I was talking to a journalist the other day. She's like, I'm starting to wish I hadn't gotten up to, like, I see all of your reports. I see what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:45:55 It's starting to wear on me. I wish I hadn't gotten the COVID vaccine. People that were injured, you know, sitting with Briand Dresson. All I think is I'm on that panel is, you know, it's. such a shame we didn't get to. It's such a shame you never saw the highway. In fact, when we're sitting there right before it started, she said, you know, I had heard of Vaxed. I didn't see Vaxed prior to being injured. Then finally, while I was dealing with this COVID vaccine injury, someone said, you should watch Vax. She's like, when I saw it, I was blown away. And I asked her,
Starting point is 00:46:26 I said, do you think that that film would have changed your mind, you know, before you'd been injured and she said, you know, I think it, I think it would have. I do think it would have. It was really powerful. Those are the types of things like with your friends right now, don't be shy, save their life. Tell them they can watchbacks for free at thehighwire.com. Just go to the highwire.com. Type in VAXXED in the search. It's free. Trust me, that film is a game changer. It changes minds right away. That's what we're doing here. To continue doing this work, to bring the lawsuits. We're working. You see Aaron's serious saying we want to end the prep act. We are over the Prep Act right now. We are trying to figure out we're bringing lawsuits from all
Starting point is 00:47:05 different directions. We're working to free the five. We're working on, you know, lawsuits all across this country, especially in the five states that have taken away the religious exemption. And do you want someone fighting? What are we just here? Was it in Massachusetts that Jeffrey was just saying that they want to take away the religious exemption? Guess who's going to be fighting for you? Guess who needs money to fight for you? Guess who needs help right now from you the Informant Consent Action Network does so that we can bring our staff to Washington, D.C. we can speak to the pressure at the National Press Club, that we continue to bring, you know, legal pressure, legislative pressure, whatever we have to do to win, that is what we do. We're all
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Starting point is 00:49:06 just go to info at I can decide.org and introduce yourself and we'll reach out and say hi and see where we want to go together. You know, one of the big issues right now is our food supply. And when you're looking at a food supply that's totally contaminated. And I'm having debates right now with people like, you know, vegetarians and vegans versus, you know, keto and meat eaters and all that. But at the heart of it, one of the things I keep wondering is, you know, is it is maybe one of the problems with eating too many vegetables that they're covered in glyphosate and there's nothing we can do about it? You know, whereas maybe meat eating animals is somehow processing these chemicals better and refining it for us or protecting us?
Starting point is 00:49:48 I don't know. But what I do know is if you really want to avoid chemicals on your food, and we're talking about in terms of glyphosate, that's an antibiotic, meaning it's wiping out your gut biome. It is giving you a leaky gut. It means every toxin that comes in throughout all of your food, anything else you're touching or drinking or eating that the FDA is approved and never should have, is going to your blood, it's going into your bloodstream, it's getting your bloodstream, it's getting your blood-brain barrier. All of this we now know through the work that we've been doing at the high wire, but you want to do something about it. The one thing you do is know where your food comes from. And the best way to do that is to maybe grow it yourself. That's the heart of a huge conference
Starting point is 00:50:26 that's taking place on June 18th and 19th, seed to spoon. And I'm about to speak to the founder who has a background being Amish, the people that really know how to grow their own food without glyphosate, know how to can that food so it lasts all winter. Amazing. Want to learn how to do that? I know I do. This is John Miller.
Starting point is 00:50:51 My family has been in this area since 1819. Amish country, great community, a lot of crafts, a lot of food production. you can get eggs and milk and apples and take your pick. I grew up in an Amish family, driving horse and buggy, didn't have indoor facilities until I was, I think it was 12. I grew up helping my uncle farm and working in my dad's shop. I'd helped put up hay and grain.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I value my Amish heritage, always have, always will. And my wife and I, in our early 20s, wanted to begin celebrating the Sabbath, meaning Saturday, and the biblical holy days, which that was a difference. Amish celebrate Sunday. So that was the decision that precipitated us leaving. I went from driving a horse and buggy to driving a poniac. That was quite a transition.
Starting point is 00:51:50 We lived outside the community for 12 years. I had a great career with Chrysler and the German engineering company, and then moved back here when her kids were teenagers, because we wanted to be back into community. And we're fully integrated now. So this is known as Ohio Amish country. It is the largest concentration of Amish in the United States now. Here we have Hors and Buggy coming, probably one of my cousins.
Starting point is 00:52:21 I'm related to just about everybody here. The farm up here on our left is my mother's home farm. The Amish have literal homesteads, an acre, or two, enough to support a horse. And gardening and canning and preserving your own food is just a way of life. I grew up on the farm, so we raised almost all of our food. We eat a lot of our vegetables out of the garden fresh,
Starting point is 00:52:48 and then what's extra I can or I freeze. As a basement filled was maybe anywhere from 300 to 1,000 jars. So if something happens, you have a snowstorm, power goes off, you always have food. We're a familiar site at the beginning of the pandemic, but we're seeing them now again. This time, what's in short supply is canning supplies. Anyone who cans or jars their food, there is a canning lid shortage.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Increased demand comes as more people have planted gardens during the pandemic and have taken an interest in preserving food. Many people have not been able to find those lids anywhere on store shelves or online. It was about nine months into COVID. The issue of a shortage of canning lids was causing a problem. My company makes engineering components for automotive. So a local food distribution company came to me and said, can you make canning lids? It was critical because the Ammish community was going to lose the harvest
Starting point is 00:53:49 in 2021. We had some machinery that had some capacity. So we mobilized our entire engineering team, put automotive engineering behind it, And in five months, we had designed a product and delivered our first million lids to the community and saved the harvest. COVID was definitely a driver
Starting point is 00:54:10 that caused people to think more deeply about food. There is a growing interest for having some level of food independence. My business unit manager and I were going to dinner one night and I said, you know what, we should start a canning festival. That was the initial thought. And then my friend Marcus Wayne, who has Berlin seeds and he said I'm thinking too small.
Starting point is 00:54:34 That's how the Food Independence Summit was born and we went much more broadly all the way from seed to spoon. And we also were very intentional about bringing people outside the community, bringing them here where homesteading is really just the way of life. It's about doing what you can with what you have. That's food independence. Well, it's my honor to be joined now by John Miller. Thanks for joining us today. It's my pleasure.
Starting point is 00:55:06 It's really great to have you. I mean, watching that, there's so many different things I want to ask you about. But, you know, you said, and we made our first million lids, and I just thought a million lids, and that's just getting started. I'm late to this party. Is that many people canning? That there's needs for millions of canning lids. It's more to millions. Actually, about a billion lids are used every year in, in just a home canning. And of course you have commercial canning, which is about 20x that.
Starting point is 00:55:35 So in the Amish Mennonite community, since we've done that, we just did the numbers on my way down here, we have distributed over 41 million lids just to the Amish Mennonite community. Wow. So. That's amazing. Those are amazing numbers?
Starting point is 00:55:51 And, you know, watching it, I was reflecting back. My mom, you know, used to can and basically taught us. I was homeschooled. So we did it on canning, made our own breads, and things like that and watching that, it really may be yearned to say, it was so easy, it's something that's so easy, yet we've all, it's almost like we've forgotten to do it,
Starting point is 00:56:11 but there's a real resurgence now, isn't there, around this idea? There is, I mean, the numbers indicate that, but I think also just the fact that things have become uncertain, especially through COVID, people have started to think back and say, wait a minute, what happens if I, can't buy food on the shelf. So I think that has driven it as well as COVID. But, I mean,
Starting point is 00:56:36 just last night, I was on a plane from Bentonville to Austin yesterday after having met with Walmart, and I have to put in a plug for Walmart. We are now in 800 stores across the country in Walmart with our canning supplies. And then I realized on a plane, I didn't bring any samples. I didn't have anything like this. And your producer told me you wanted to do that. talk about it so I went to the Walmart right next door to the airport and that's where you get your stuff that's where you get your stuff and and I think I think this is what I want to emphasize people look at canning and other home production you don't have to go out and buy 10 acres and five cows and
Starting point is 00:57:20 seven sheep and build an do an orchard that is overwhelming would be overwhelming for me you need to do what you can was what you have where you are at In the case of last night, I just went to Walmart, went to the organic section, bought the food because it was too late to go out to eat. And so what canning does for you, even if you don't grow anything. You can literally just go buy a bunch of organic fruits, vegetables, whatever, bring them home and can them. When they are in season, we'll take tomatoes, for example, go buy a couple bushels of tomatoes, is easy to do, can them up. And then you have the assurance that when the power goes off, which we just heard earlier in the program, that you have something to eat.
Starting point is 00:58:02 That was the way we lived. I remember back in 1978, I'm old enough to remember those winters. We were without power for four days. Our non-Ambish neighbors moved in with us because we had power, well, we didn't have power, we had cold fire furnace back then. You were warm. So you can do things little by little
Starting point is 00:58:26 in the scale that you want and have some assurance that you have when you need it. More importantly though I think is the fact that you will know what is in your food instead of having to read the labels and wonder what all these unpronounceable words are that are food. You know the Amish are getting a bit of a celebrity it seems like these days Mennonites Amish as we all are starting I think COVID drove us saying you know I think I've gotten too far away from nature. I've gotten like how hard is it to have my own garden, which is what's so amazing
Starting point is 00:59:03 about your conference. It deals with everybody from every side I'm going to be speaking there and really looking forward to it, but meeting people where they're at. But I kind of want to talk about that. I mean, the understanding of the Amish, mostly through some movies, there's a reality show, I don't know what reality that was covering, but is all this attention strange? Because it seems like a people that the whole point is to not be drawing attention. How is it affecting the community that events like years have all these people descending saying, we just want to learn from you? I think we've become used to that.
Starting point is 00:59:40 And by the way, the reality shows it's unreality. It's entirely fake. And I want to say that on behalf of the community that I love because it's not fair. It's not real. But back to the touristic component, that starts. a good while ago. I'm going to say going back to the 80s, it started and our community now has roughly 5 to 6 million tourists come to town. And I think we do a really good job of interfacing with them and giving them an understanding of our lifestyle without it disrupting it. And, you know, we like the money that it brings into the community as well.
Starting point is 01:00:22 I'll bet you do. So explain it to me. Explain to me why it is, you know, like take me just a little history lesson, Amish, you know, for those of us that don't know, what is the nationally, where they come from, and why no, you know, why so limiting on technical advancements like electricity, things like that? What is the thinking? How much time do we have? Well, not much. Let's give me the elevator, it's the five-minute version. Okay. I say that in chess. So actually the founding of Amish Mennonite, Hutherite, and to some extent, brethren dates back 500 years. Okay. Actually, this was the 500th year anniversary.
Starting point is 01:01:06 We had a small celebration in our community to what is known in religious circles as the Anabaptist Movement. Okay. There were those within the Protestant Reformation that didn't think Svingley, who was the Swiss reformer, and Luther went far enough. So they went a step further. And they actually invented in 1525 the concept of separation between church and state. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:35 And the different, there were a number of disputes theologically. The primary one was in lieu of a baptism at eight days, which was tradition back then, it would be a baptism upon adult confession of faith. Okay. So that was a differentiating. feature.
Starting point is 01:01:54 To move it to where you actually know what you're doing and you're actually committing to an idea. Okay, that makes sense. So that resulted in and I could never understand why if I do not baptize my baby, it should be a capital offense, meaning I get drowned in a river or hung from the gallows. Until recently I discovered that back then not baptizing your baby was paramount to tax evasion. tax evasion because when you baptized your baby that was how you were become part of the public record and could be appropriate tax so nothing really a lot of people in my audience but just went what
Starting point is 01:02:33 now that this be the social security card it yes essentially yes so so in 1525 there was a big event where three people committed to adult baptism upon confession of faith their names were church, Blah, Conrad, Graebel, and Felix Munns. They paid dearly. Within three years, they were all dead. They died in martyrs' death. And then the movement, but the movement spread like wildfire across the continent. And in Holland, there was a Catholic priest by the name of Mano Simons, hence the name Mennonite. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:16 And then in Switzerland, the more conservative group, there was a man by a man by a name of Jacob Amon, who, hence the name Amish, who, by the way, was a tailor. Okay. And I had a vested interest, I think, in becoming pretty prescriptive about the dress mode. So that's where those traditions started. But to do the elevator speech, essentially what happened, what began as a fiery, very fiery religious movement emerged later. later as a religious tradition, still adhering to the basic tenets of the founding. But the aversion to technology, I think I can explain that in a few minutes.
Starting point is 01:04:06 The aversion to technology is actually a relatively recent phenomenon. My forefathers in Europe actually on the one side of the family lived in a castle on late Constance. and I've been there and visited, and they were the most progressive farmers at that time and earned a degree of religious freedom because they had advanced technologies, including making, they were the first to learn how to burn limestone and fertilized fields in that way. Closer to home, my paternal grandfather in 1938 moved to the southernmost part of the Ohio settlement, and at that time he was the only Amish, the southernmost Amish farm. The other farmers, all in 1938 were still farming with horses.
Starting point is 01:04:54 He was the first to buy a tractor and a threshing machine and then went around the community doing the threshing. It was after World War II that a distinction was made and the mechanized, they decided not to do the mechanized farming and also the automobile. And there were a couple of components to it. One was the automobile will take you away from the community. take you away from the community.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Okay. So, and I think that that decision has proven to be accurate. The other component, the electrification, it's interesting we have a seed change happening in the community right now. And the seed change is that the iconic horse and buggy is now being replaced by e-bikes. And most old order Amish homes in our area are fully electrified. You ask you, you know, you scratch your head, you know, how did that happen? To me, there's a very logical explanation, and the explanation is this.
Starting point is 01:05:57 It is one of being, it's the basic philosophy of not being dependent on outsiders for my basic needs. So the idea of being connected to a power grid was counter to that. Now that I can have solar panels, and we probably have the highest concentration, of solar panels anywhere in the country. Wow. When you come to, when you visit in a few weeks. Yeah. So I charge my battery.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I have 110 electric, and now I can charge my bike. And in my company and others, we actually have a bike parking lot in a shed on the outside. So you just don't like electricity because you don't want anyone to turn you off. Correct. No one outside's ever going to be able to turn us off. We are going to be in control of our destiny. If there's power we create it, if it's food we create, we create. We don't need outside grocery stores we don't need.
Starting point is 01:06:51 So the whole thing is about truly, like really then, this idea of homesteading, this is just a part of your culture through and through. It's a way of life. And that's why you talk about the Food Independence Summit, we went, we go all the way from seat to spoon. And we've got a whole deck of keynote speakers in the morning. But in the afternoon, I've got 40 workshops of people who do butchering. and all kinds of crafts so that you can be not be dependent on others doing it. Wow. It was the founder's vision, Marcus and I, to be able to bring people to our community
Starting point is 01:07:33 and help them learn those skill sets. Wow. Tell me a little bit about your journey then, because obviously at some point, you mentioned you changed the Sabbath Day, but really that decision to buy a car. which I think about that. It makes sense. One of the issues of the car is, I need an outside gas station.
Starting point is 01:07:55 If it's not there, then, you know, we're going to have issues. But what is that like? I mean, is that, are you admonished? Is it difficult to make that move inside of your community to decide to, you know, really go into a car and change your lifestyle that way? That was the most difficult decision
Starting point is 01:08:16 that my wife and I have ever made. You know, you have people that grew up in the Amish community that feel somehow constricted by the lack of technology. I never felt that. Okay. And maybe that is because my father was a rather innovative individual who, without electricity, had a manufacturing company and used air power and diesel engines to do it. So there was always, for me, even as a very young person, the capacity to use my mechanical skills and creative energies. So we never had any desire to leave the community, actually on the contrary. That is until I was confronted by an individual who told me that I should not listen to men,
Starting point is 01:09:08 but rather based my faith on the Bible itself. And through that process, we came to the conviction that the seventh day Sabbath was important that it was actually holy time and became convicted that we needed to keep that day in lieu of Sunday, which is a more recent innovation third century. And it was that conviction that drove the decision. But at that time, the community was very averse to it. So I found myself in a position where living my conviction put me at odds with the community, which was a process that lasted about 12 years. So while you're all pissed off at me for changing my Sabbath, I think I'll buy a car too. While you're upset, let me just go ahead and, like, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:57 No, actually, the real reason was that, you know, I had to find employment outside the community. Okay. Oh, so to get there, I needed a car. Got it. The interesting kind of, you know, you do what, I'm a very strong believer that you need to live your conviction. And I really respect people that may have the opposite conviction that I have, but they're real.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Yeah. They're not pretending, they're not fake. Yeah. So I was being kind of convicted in the earlier today before we started. You're like, you obviously really believe that. I was like, I'm a convicted person. I'm like into what I believe in. I saw you in the back room telling your producer what you're not going to do.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And I said, I like this man, you know, because I know what he believes. So this is an interesting anecdote. So I was a young man working with my father in this small manufacturing company, which this is ironic. So you have a small manufacturing company about 25 people that provides. all the cord reel springs for Hoover, which was a device we wouldn't be allowed to use. Right, interesting. That we were producing using air power instead of electricity. So I had all the practical experience, and so then I went looking for a job, and I finally
Starting point is 01:11:27 found a job as a draftsman that's something I'd learned how to do. And then a year and a half into this, I got a call from a recruiter. And the recruiter said, John, I want you to interview at Chrysler. Okay. And I said, Paterson personnel. I said, look, I'm not wasting my time. Because they want somebody with a degree. I had eight grades of education.
Starting point is 01:11:52 I then got a GED, and I was taking engineering classes at the time. She said, John, you got to take this interview. They're going to want you. I said, no, I can't afford it. So she actually said, I'm going to pay you to take the interview. Wow. So she paid me twice as much as I was making at the time to take the interview. And I went home and told my wife I should start interviewing full time because it pays better.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Long story short, a year and a half after I was driving a horse and bogey, I was a manufacturing engineer at Chrysler. Without a college degree, you know, an eighth grade, you know, education. And I think that's one of the things that, and you're very successful. You've done very well for yourself, which is just an amazing journey. And so on that journey, but still your yearning brings you back. And now you're back into, you know, your wife's out there, you know, working in the garden. And you've put together one of the biggest festivals there is around that homesteading lifestyle, getting back to where we aren't owned by the system where we can take care of ourselves.
Starting point is 01:13:01 So what brought you back? We moved back my last, I was working for a nonprofit in Germany during the Balkan War, church-related nonprofit. And we moved back when our kids were teenagers because we wanted them to reconnect with the community. And by that time, the fledgling company that my brother and I started had grown to the point that it would support both of us. So that's what brought us back. And then, you know, we've been trying to be superb in manufacturing ever since then. Great. And so tell me then really about seed to spoon.
Starting point is 01:13:40 What is, what is this, is June 18th and 19th? Correct. And it's in, where's it at? It's in Walnut Creek. We have a lot of Krieg scenario. We have Sugar Creek, Walnut Creek. Okay. Here it is, folks, we're looking at it.
Starting point is 01:13:55 You can connect their foodindependence. and there's a code right now if you're watching today and today only the code is del 25 for 25% discount I woke up feeling generous this morning okay so today today only I wanted to give something to your viewers you can go and everything that's at food independence dot life okay is 25% off today right now only today del 25 after today big tree 10 correct okay okay So there you have it. You get dropped down to 10% off if you type in Big Tree 10. But Dell today, Dell 25, if you want that 25% discounted at everything there. This is a huge event. I mean, I saw you, you know, we saw obviously Joel Salatin, one of my favorite farmers in the world talking about regenerative farming and all the brilliant work he's done. There are folks you can see. Even Cali Means is going to be there. I'm dragging people out of Washington, D.C. to come down. and discuss Max Kane, great friend of the show, who actually brought us together.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Right. And, you know, where do you see the future going? I mean, we are, you know, obviously now you're in technology. You are a manufacturer. When you see AI and, I mean, advancements that, I think even those of us that have been driving cars our whole lives are now terrified of where technology is going. Are you worried about that or do you think that's going to drive more people back to their roots, back to nature?
Starting point is 01:15:34 I'm not concerned, you know, I guess this is a two-faceted question. I'm not concerned that AI is going to cause our community to lose the integrity of our homesteading lifestyle. Because that is so deeply entrenched. I am concerned about AI in general. I think AI can do marvelous things, particularly in the data. analysis standpoint but if we if we if it becomes a beast that uh... can do things we can't control i think that's very concerning
Starting point is 01:16:07 but i also think it's a bit of a fad because now you see a i on everything when in fact is just you know maybe a little bit of advanced computing but tracking back to the seed to spoon you'd ask me how we that came to be and i think i uh... was quoted on the role prior to coming on set We really wanted to do something. We recognized that to be successful in home preservation,
Starting point is 01:16:35 we needed to provide training. And it was spontaneous. My business unit manager, David Greer and I were driving to a restaurant in town for dinner. And we went by a campground and a friend of mine owns a camping manufacturer and they have this camper conference. And I said, you know what, Dave, we need to have a canning festival. Yeah. So that's how, and that was in, that was in July. And so I went to see my friend Marcus who owns Timbercrest Campground and I said, you know, what could we do? And he told me, this doesn't happen very often. He said, me, John, you're thinking too small. I mean, usually,
Starting point is 01:17:21 I come up with crazy ideas that others have to pull back. So he wanted to, to, you know, go all the way from seed to spoon. And so then the question was, when did we do it? This was middle of July, and we had our first conference in September. We literally put it together in six weeks. I called, and we said, well, who do we have come? So we need Joel Saladin. And I said, well, he's probably booked.
Starting point is 01:17:47 So I called Joel. I called Justin Rhodes and Sarah Thrush and one other person whose name I don't recall at the moment. And we had a conference. They all said yes, much to our surprise, so we pulled it together, and then it's grown from them. How big was it last year? Last year, it was in June, and we had to be around 3,000 people. Three thousand people. So we, I'm looking forward very much of having you there.
Starting point is 01:18:14 I think you're speaking on Wednesday. Yeah. And you're a keynote, and I think you're also doing a workshop on the importance of land ownership. So we have a big top tent that Marcus bought, and we can see it over 2,000 people in that tent, 3,000 if we push it. Yeah. Big stage from 830 until noon, walking through. It's basically an educational conference. And then in the afternoon, we've got the exhibitors from the community.
Starting point is 01:18:48 And I think more importantly, this year, I couldn't believe it. I mean, Arlen came to me. I have a whole team of people working together. Let's put you together. And we have 40 workshops throughout the afternoon that you can participate in. So you'll get your monies worth. That sure sounds like a lot of fun. Everybody, let's bring those up.
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Starting point is 01:19:31 It's going to be a spectacular event. I'm going to talk to you after the show. You actually have a really big story about healing from Lyme disease that I'm curious about and a very specific way to do that. I run into that everywhere. Yeah. So we'll talk about that after the show. I just say, off the record.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I'd just like to say, I just looked it up. It's exactly one year today that I flew to Germany to take the treatment. I was in a bad way. I was passing out and didn't have any energy, but we can talk about that off the record. Yeah, I look forward to that. Thanks for joining us today. And thank you for all your great work. Seed to Spoon's very important conference.
Starting point is 01:20:10 I'm happy to be a part of it. Thank you. If you want to know what off the record means, it's something that we give back to all the people that donate to make this show possible. you're used to paying your cable bill. You do it even though the news is lying to you all the time. We'd love for you to become a recurring donor. And when you do, one of the things we have is a bunch of extra content that we're doing.
Starting point is 01:20:30 We've got Jeffrey Jackson investigates, which is fantastic. Off the record, something we're going to get into a little bit of some more personal details about a life-changing moment curing himself from Lyme disease coming up on Off the Record. This is what that looks like. It's time to go off the record. The show exclusively for our donors. All right, we're rolling. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:20:51 I want to thank you for just sticking around a little bit. We call this off the record. This is what we couldn't talk about on the high wire. I actually want to dive into a very sensitive topic. You have no obligation to be honest with these people. Is anyone telling me the truth? No doctor wants to say that they're killing people. Yeah, but doesn't every doctor want to stop killing people?
Starting point is 01:21:08 You have no freedom. You have no liberty. You're a slave. Journalism massively failed the United States. It's silly to call people anti-vaccine. It's nonsense. All the vultures come out. You're married?
Starting point is 01:21:22 All of that's BS. This whole system's rigged, and they don't care about our health. We will have full discovery power. Watch what happens when we go off the record. You are not going to miss this. Good hanging out. Indeed. Well, I've been on a blitzkrieg of speaking engagements over the last several months.
Starting point is 01:21:44 This is actually my last power week. I've been saying to everybody that knows me, call me up to Mother's Day. I just got to make it to Mother's Day. I'm just incredibly packed, busy. I mean, just this week, I was in Washington, D.C. I was in Tampa yesterday. Got in here just the time to do this show. Tonight, I'm speaking at a fundraiser for the school that my wife and I created.
Starting point is 01:22:07 It's moving on to really dynamic people as we're doing our own thing. But here it is May 8th Spirit of Mahawk Camp Fire Chat in Austin, Texas. go to raphael springs.org slash spirit dash of dash maha. I really have been digging, talking about the Make America Healthy Again movement. That's going to be really up close and personal. If you want to come and meet me and talk, that's going to be a great event. So raphael springs.org slash spirit of maha. And then on May 9th, tomorrow I'm going to be in Mountain View, California.
Starting point is 01:22:38 I believe that's somewhere. Is that a Sacramento, Silicon Valley-ish area? You know if you're there. You know if you're close to it. Another amazing event, the Liberty Forum event, Mountain View, California, Liberty-Fourn.org. The QR code is right there. I'd love to see you there. That's going to be a dynamic event.
Starting point is 01:22:55 And then I'm doing the Free Now Foundation Gala in Redwood City, California. Just go to Freenow Foundation.org. That's May 10th, that's Saturday evening. All of these are going to give a little bit different interpretation to a lot of the stuff that we're talking about. So you can see them all, man. You're going to have a heck of a week. And then finishing off, we have an awesome. event happening May 11, Maha Mom Celebration in Austin, Texas.
Starting point is 01:23:21 If you want to check that out, it's going to be a great Mother's Day event. It's a little bit later in the day. We know that many of you go out to brunch, but after that, we're going to be just celebrating moms at the mahaaction.com slash maha dash moms dash celebration. And guess what? Many of you talk about the show where I sat with my family and talked to my family. I'm actually going to, you know, interview my mom, Norma Bigtree, on Sunday, for that Mother's Day event,
Starting point is 01:23:47 talked to one of the original Maha OGs who didn't vaccinate me back in 1970 when I was born, raised me with organic food before I think they had to label it, but made sure all of our vegetables and everything were fresh, all of the different ways that I was raised that are coming back in vogue, but what was it like when she was all alone out there thinking that way? A really great event.
Starting point is 01:24:11 So I'm looking forward to all that. Hope to see you there. and why am I traveling? Why I'm working so hard? Because I don't feel like we have a lot of time if we really want to change the course of our nation and ultimately the world. We have been on a multi-decade, maybe even centuries trajectory of authoritarianism, slowly moving its way into our lives, teaching us that, you know, we need something outside of ourselves. Such a great message from John Mills. The problem with the pharmaceuticals.
Starting point is 01:24:43 industry. All day long, you're watching that TV and watching every single ad about you must need some drug to feel better about your life. You know, something outside of yourself to make you healthy, something outside of yourself to make you happy, something outside of yourself to feel like you have a place in this world when, you know, really, truly, it's all inside of us. We generate this. Our bodies are designed to heal. You don't need all that stuff. Food is medicine. And especially, sovereignty, this idea of sovereignty. Oh, by the way, I mean, you know, wasn't it amazing Kentucky Derby that sovereignty beat out journalism? I just, it just popped up my head. What an amazing. There's one of those moments where it's like, am I laying in jelly somewhere like the Matrix?
Starting point is 01:25:29 And it's just one of those computer programs saying, Del, there's no way this is real. You've been screaming about how journalism is destroying sovereignty, is bringing in an authoritarian government. now two horses randomly made sovereignty and journalism in the home stretch and sovereignty wins. That's right. Sovereignty wins every time. That's why I'm psyched to be, you know, celebrating seed to spoon. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be speaking everywhere I can. I hope you're speaking to everyone you can. I hope that you're recognizing that this is a moment where we have the momentum. In many ways, we're the majority. We have the government. We have everything moving in our direction. And I'll even tell you the press, they're having a really hard
Starting point is 01:26:11 time pressing back against us. And obviously, they have a hard mission to sell why we still need petroleum dyes in our food, why it's okay to reduce the IQ of your child by drinking fluorid water because at least they have nice teeth. I mean, I hate to be on their side. They're in a really difficult position. So while they're in that position, let's take advantage, take advantage together, talk to everyone you know. It's so much fun. We have so. We have so. so many wins to talk about and who doesn't want to be on the winning team all right well we're going to keep winning for you every day is getting better and better I look forward to winning this week I'll see you at one of these events and I'll catch you next week on the high wire

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