The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 427: THE AGENDA EXPOSED

Episode Date: June 7, 2025

Why are over half of the UK’s NHS workers refusing the flu shot? Del Bigtree reports. Jefferey Jaxen exposes the FDA’s controversial approval of Moderna’s new COVID jab, and the UK’s digital ID rollout reveals a key difference from the U.S. Meanwhile, peer-reviewed journals continue to suppress the COVID lab-leak debate. Finally, Del sits down with producer Mark Sharman to discuss The Agenda: Their Vision – Your Future—a powerful new film revealing the global push to centralize control over food, energy, money, and more.Guest: Mark SharmanBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Yeah. Let's do this. Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out into the high wire. You know, a lot of times, especially lately, I've been talking about how America feels like it's this sort of island of sanity while the world has. health organization, the W.E.F, appeared to be like beating down the world and the world is giving in. We're just seeing all sorts of authoritarian measures all around the world. But, you know, we're going to be talking about some of the sort of facial recognition software and tracking systems

and real IDs like worldwide, but also we're seeing people arrested in England and Ireland for simply just posting a meme that the government doesn't agree with. I mean, it's getting really scary out there in the World Health Organization. Everyone seems to be signing up and signing over their sovereignty, but just when I thought it was getting really bad, I saw this. Vaccine hesitancy now, Leo, in the Times and the latest demographic to doubt their efficacy are doctors and nurses. Yeah, who'd have thought it? So the NHS has a vaccine problem. Staff don't want the jab. So doctors, nurses and other frontline NHS staff are shunning the flu vaccine. So this is the flu vaccine, not the coronavirus vaccine,

in ever greater numbers with almost nine and ten staff at one of England's largest hospital trusts unvaccinated last winter. Oh, I wonder what changed in the last five years to make people suspicious of vaccines. They're acknowledging as much as vaccine fatigue.

We're just a bit tired of vaccines. We don't believe it was all a load of propaganda and nonsense and status reruns of the possible home arrest. We've got long vaccine. Even relative normies like myself, who did have a COVID jab, much to Nick Dixon's disgust. Yeah.

You know, I've become very suspicious because when they mandate stuff, when they say, if you don't do this, you will be in trouble. You start to ask why. Up until that point, you know, vaccines would give in to us at school, if someone said you had a vaccine to go on holiday.

What's just went to know with it? I know we're all suffered from the end-time vibes at times, but it's just things like that that have to make you realize, you know what, humanity's not that stupid. and the genies out of the bottle. We all went through it around the world. We went through it with the COVID lockdowns.

Everybody with blood moving through their veins knows that the entire things was a scam. Social distancing was made up. Masks don't work. The vaccine can't stop transparency. And by number 10 booster shots, that apparently is clear to everybody. So, you know, and they're not even talking about the COVID booster there. They're talking about the flu shot. nine out of ten hospital workers, the NHS are saying that they're not taking the flu shot.

Well, what's that going to do for flu shots? And by the way, what do you think that's going to do the global agenda the next time the WHO tries to mandate that everybody line up for another experimental vaccine because some new virus or bacteria is roaming the earth? I think that we have turned a corner. We've got to stay positive and recognize that we are not alone. They want us to feel lonely. That's how it kicks in. That's how we start reacting.

so they start controlling us. So really good to see news reports coming out of England of sanity. So we're not alone here in America. And for those of you around the world, we're going to keep saying the same thing I'm saying here. Use your voice. Speak up. Speak your truth. We're winning this.

We've got to keep moving the masses. And every once in a while we get lucky, the masses even infect the television right in front of our eyes. We're going to be talking a lot about the new developments with vaccines here in America. What's approved? What's not approved? Should we be happy? Should we sad? All that coming right up with the Jackson Report.

But first, I want to just talk about my next guest that's going to be coming up later on in the show. Mark Sharman worked in England. He worked as, you know, a top executive for television. He has a brand new documentary that's coming out. And it is really shocking, really mind-blowing. And boy, does it put it all together in a way you haven't seen it before. It's called The Agenda. Their vision is your future.

Uh-oh. I can't wait to talk to him about that. But first is time for The Jackson Report. All right, Jeffrey, it can be really easy to feel like you're in an alarmist mood right now. I mean, we got, you know, wars breaking out all over. It feels like everyone's at each other's throats. But, you know, there's still so much, I think, to be happy for. And, you know, we got to celebrate the little battles, don't we?

The little wins here and there. Yeah, yeah. You know, it seems like only yesterday that the COVID pandemic was over. And we were celebrating because that was finally behind us. And we're seeing now new. headlines coming out. All right. Say this as a new COVID strain from China hits the U.S. Some experts are calling for face masks to return. Good luck with that experts.

Groundhog Day. Good luck. So this is this is a new strain they're saying China, Hong Kong, Thailand. They're seeing it there. They're seeing it some of it in the United States from international travelers coming into California. But the prevalence isn't even close to high enough for the CDC to even be tracking this. So it looks like in the US, this is not really a big thing. But I want to remember. I take this moment to remind people what our health officials were doing when we had a COVID pandemic here and there was a vaccine rollout. If anybody didn't see this clip, I think this is kind of emblematic of that entire moment in history. Take a look.

All right. Hi, everybody. Good to see you guys. Hey. What's going on? My name's Barack. What's your name? Jared. Dr. Paltrow, he's very important. helps to run all the stuff to keep people helping. You know, do you guys know why we are getting these shots? What do you think? Protected from the COVID. That's exactly right. What is the vaccine

made of? Ah, that's a great question. The vaccine takes a part of the virus that can't hurt you. A little knob that's on the, the virus is like this. There's a little thing that sticks out here. It's called a spike. So you take this spike, you put it in the vaccine, you give it to you, and your body thinks it's the virus, but it isn't. It's just the part of the virus. So your body makes a really, really good response against it so that when the real virus comes along, your body's ready to just knock it out. The older you get, when you get COVID, the more dangerous it is. Like an old guy like me, you guys are protecting me by not getting an effect. You're protecting me. You really are.

I mean, that video is all kinds of wrong. I mean, you know, first of all the vaccine takes the spite protein, which is the part of the virus that can't hurt you. Here's a newsflash. You know, obviously, we all now know it is the bio weapon of the virus and is what is absolutely going to swell your heart or cause thrombocytes of pinia or stroke or all the other beautiful things. This vaccine is capable of it.

But then, you know, right there, classic. and we're going to use you little children as Operation Human Shield for the elderly, something we've never done before, just sacrificed children so that TOTI Pouchy can be safer. Oh, man. Shaming school kids, because the vaccine wasn't even tested to stop transmission at that point, but hey, what did the school kids know? They're not going to fact-check them. So I want to take this opportunity to just talk about some of the aftermath from the pandemic.

And this is just this week in the headlines here. Doctors sound alarm over massive spike in Americans suddenly dropping dead from unexplained heart attacks. This is out of Massachusetts. I want to show a graph from this article. This is the cardiac mortality rate per 100,000 Massachusetts residents. And you can see there, the dotted blue lines are what they expect it. And then the yellow line is what they observed. You can see, curiously enough, around 2020, 2021 and 2022, when the vaccine rule out was happening,

you see this gigantic spike of cardiac mortality rates. Terrible. And same thing, New York Post here. Why are so many people having strokes in their 20s, 30s, and 40s? We've never had patients so young, say the doctors quoted in the article. So these are the conversations that are surrounding this experimental vaccine rollout. And in that space, we have this headline, which is causing a lot of conversation online. FDA approves new Moderna COVID-19 vaccine.

And this is the latest in the FDA's approval. This is for 65 and older, and then also 12 to 64 with underlying risk factors that we talked about in the show when you and I are in D.C. So a lot of, you know, a lot of the public is looking at this kind of with mixed feelings. And I want to go right into the FDA insert for this modern vaccine. It's called next spike because apparently the first spike wasn't good enough. Apparently, we haven't learned our lesson by taking the most dangerous part of this virus and making a vaccine of it. Look, I have not vaccinated my kids.

Let me be perfectly clear with everyone in this audience. So, you know, take my opinion with the understanding of that bias. I wasn't vaccinated as a child. But my understanding of vaccines was the idea to do exactly what Tony Fauci said, which is to take the weakest part of the virus. You know, use that as your vaccine. So just in case something goes wrong and it proliferates throughout your body. or inserts itself in your genetic code that at least it won't be something really harmful. But the spike is literally the worst part of this virus.

Why are they still making vaccines? They're taking the worst part, the most dangerous part. It's absolutely mind-blowing. It's like they want to kill people. And as we know that that message goes into the cell. It kind of uses, hijacks the cell's machinery to create these spike proteins. We're going to go into that a little more down the road in this segment. But let's go to the FDA's basically their insert for this vaccine.

Every vaccine has one of those, including this next spike. And it looks at the trials that were used, the safety trials that were used for the FDA to give the knot to this and say that looks okay. We can give it to 65 and older and those with risk factors. And here's the first one. I'm going to go quick on this, but it says the safety of next spike was evaluated. So they did do a randomized, observer-blind, active-controlled clinical trial, US, UK, Canada. But then you go down a little further.

And what did they compare it against? a comparator vaccine. That is the Moderna vaccine with the original amicron strains. So an older moderner vaccine was the comparator. And then another safety study goes into that. And it also says this was when in Japan, and a comparator vaccine was the spike facts. It was their 23, 2023, 2024 formulation. So no placebo control. And just for the caveat here, this is just like every other vaccine on the childhood schedule pretty much. They did not test this for carcinogenesis, So that's cancer-causing ability. Impairment of fertility has not been evaluated.

Genotoxicity, the toxicity to your cell lines. So that's nothing new, but it may shock some people in the audience. So these are some of the questions people had. Where are the studies we were promised on this? And Dr. Marty McCari, the FDA head, and then Vinnie Prasad, the Seber head. So these are the two heads of the FDA. They took to kind of like an online question format. And they posted this on X.

Take a look. All right. So you mentioned something about the RCT. Can you just unpack the little bit more? So to approve this drug, we did not require an RCT up front. Is that correct? Well, the company did do randomized control trials, but they tested their new product and neck spike against their older product, spike facts.

And we had FDA felt that that was sufficient to allow this product to be available to the vulnerable people, older people and high-risk people. But as we have said all along, and we're going to stick to, and they are going to fulfill commitments, we want to see a randomized control trial of people between 50 and 64 who are healthy Americans to show me these vaccines are doing what we hope they're doing and what we think they might be doing, but we don't know for sure. And we want to see that in this age group where there's something what we call global equiploys means that you across all the countries in the world, people are genuinely unsure

if the vaccines work in that age group. Some countries recommend it, some don't. We want to see proof that it works. And again, they're not going to go up against another. product in this study. It's Moderna vaccine against a saline placebo. We're going to see all the adverse events in this study. We're going to see whether or not it helps people and what it does and whether or not it's working like we think it might be in 2025, you know? I think a lot of people are going to be interested in the results of that trial because

I think it's an honest unknown. It's a scientific unknown. And so when you get into that group that you describe the 50 to 65, I mean, France, you got to be 75 or 80. 80, in France, 75 in the UK, or high risk. I think a lot of clinicians, a lot of moms, a lot of people out there in the world are wondering, does the risk-benefit ratio favor getting it at this point? So I think a lot of people are going to be interested in that results. I mean, let's be honest, the numbers suggest there's either a lot of skepticism,

uncertainty, distrust, but 85% of health care workers did not get the last COVID shot. That's right. And somewhere between 12 and 13, 12 and 14% of kids got the last COVID shot. So that means for 87, 88% of parents, for 87, 88% of kids, their parents said, no, thank you to the last COVID shot. So I think you're going to answer some really interesting questions. Yeah, I think it's such a key study. And I think there's another misconception I want to clarify.

which is people have said you at FDA are recommending the shot to high-risk people and older people. I want to be very clear. The FDA is not your doctor. We are not, we don't recommend shots to people. What we do is we make them available for patients to have a conversation with their doctor. But I can understand a 66-year-old who goes to see their doctor, and they may decide to do it or not do it. That's their medical decision. FDA is granting a marketing authorization for that, but we are not in the business of making recommendations. That's other agencies and other bodies. I mean, let's certainly have a moment here, Jeffrey, to recognize that we have, you know,

from the moment I made the film Vax and released that in 2016, one of the battle cries that we've had, you know, throughout this movement, whether it was medical freedom or now Maha, was we want placebo-based trials for vaccines just like there are for drugs. And for the first time in history, not just Robert Kennedy Jr., but you're watching head of FDA, head of CBER right now discussing, you know, having placebo-based trials. So we are definitely moving into a direction we have never been before. There's no way we're here without Robert Kennedy Jr. So all of that's very exciting.

But I know you're about to discuss a lot of the complaints about, well, why did this thing get approved without that to begin with? And Benet Prasad makes an interesting point saying, look, we are not recommending it. Is that what the FDA, you know, does? we are just saying it's approved to be on the market. And now your doctor can have the conversation with you. And as soon as he said that, I said that is really at the core of this problem is exactly that. If your doctors having the conversation, what kind of conversation they're having and what

do they actually know? And I reflected back to, do you remember in 2019, right before COVID, we did a whole show on the WHO meeting in Geneva, Switzerland, where they all got together to discuss how to stop vaccine hesitancy and Heidi Larson talked about the education. She's the lead psychologist for the WHO when she said how equipped our doctors to talk about vaccines? This is what she had to say. We've talked about it earlier. Some of the challenges are when the frontline professionals are starting to question or they don't feel like they have enough confidence about the safety to stand up to it to the person asking them the question.

I mean, most medical school curriculums, even nursing curriculums. I mean, in medical school, you're lucky if you have a half day on vaccines, never mind keeping up to date with all this. That was such a mind-blowing statement for everyone in the world except you and I. We've been reporting on that for years. It was called misinformation. Doctors are not trained on vaccines. They don't know them, folks.

They don't understand the they don't know the immune system. You ask your pediatrician, they don't. really know how these things work. They don't know what's in them. They got a half a day education as stated in front of an international, you know, panel. So now when you think about the FDA making it available so that you can have an educated conversation with your doctor, well, how are you having an educated conversation if your doctor's not educated? And how educated is the person going to be that's going in and trusting their doctor? So there's still so many places this thing falls apart, but I do want to point out, at least we are having the conversations.

You know, Vena says there, it's not going to be a Moderna against modernas, though that's a bad thing, which we know it is. It's going to be against a real placebo in the future. Anyway, just, I think very interesting points and obviously very strong heated conversations about all this right now. Right. And he mentions Prasad, Dr. Prasad mentions, we want to see what the benefits are. That would be helpful because we've been given this thing for four years at least. And this This actually sets up the CDC to step out and revolutionize itself. I mean, this is like a slow pitch to a home run hitter.

The CDC could hit this thing out of the park and say, you know what? No placebo control? No recommendation. Sorry. So that's another option here. But the big question, when they say, you know, because the FDA pulled the recommendation or I'm sorry, pulled the license or whatever for kids, for children, for healthy children. Yeah, because that wasn't effective in the age group.

But if you look under the hood of that statement, it wasn't effective, but it was causing some harm. And so when this vaccine is put forward to 65 plus and those with underlying conditions, the question is, what about that myocarditis and those heart issues? So we look at the biological license application that the FDA, as the letter the FDA sends to Moderna and says, you know what, you got the green light, go ahead and do it. We're going to give you some homework. And this is some of the homework they gave them. They said, we want post-marketing retrospective cohort studies looking at the occurrence

of myocarditis and pericarditis. But here's one of the issues. The final report submission, right at the bottom there, says 2029, and then it goes on to say, we want you to do another thing. We want you to look at the long-term issues of that vaccine-induced myocarditis. But we're going to give you to 2034 to look at that. So these are the questions. And so that's why these placebo-controlled trials are so important because we know on the back end,

the PREPAC is extended to 2020. that's still protecting these vaccines for legal liability. The vaccine injury compensation is not adequate. So on the back end, these people that get injured from these vaccines are getting no relief. So some type of revolution has to happen in that space as well. But at least on the front end, we need to be seeing these placebo controls. So Kennedy, Secretary HHS Kennedy did step out onto X and posted this, addressing the public concern.

He said, I want to address those who have anxieties about FDA's limited approval of the new MRNA COVID vaccine for high-risk populations. Modern has agreed to a placebo-controlled trial of the new vaccine, just like Prasad said, which is similar to the existing RNA vaccine, but uses a smaller protein. The FDA will monitor and collect data throughout the trial for every adverse outcome, not just a table list of expected outcomes. FDA will scrutinize every aspect of the trial.

We will deliver on a promise to use gold standard science and common sense. So in my view, these are positives, small for some people, but these are positives because you want your HHS secretary directly communicating to the public when there's concerns. You want Prasad, you want Makari, you want these doctors stepping out and directly communicating concerns, even though they might not be given the answers everyone likes. This is how you want. You want to hold their feet to the fire, so they have to keep addressing these concerns as opposed to every other administration in our lifetime, just kind of moving along rubber stamp business as usual. At the same time, the FDA is launching an AI, artificial intelligence.

This was during the same week of all this controversy. It says today, this is on X. They said today the FDA launched ELSA, and you go down into that bullet point list. What's this AI going to do? Well, it's going to accelerate clinical protocol reviews. It's going to identify inspection targets, shorten time needed for scientific evaluations, summarize adverse events to support safety profile assessments. So they have the tools here to do something with this AI if they really use it appropriately.

And we hope they will to get these answers before 2034. And so these are the conversations with that MRNA platform. But we reported just a couple weeks ago that Kennedy, HHS, canceled Moderna bird flu vaccine. That was kind of a relic, a leftover relic of the Biden administration who gave hundreds of millions of dollars to this. This was a late stage ready to go into circulation, if given. Well, this came on the back end. This was in April.

FDA grants fast track designation for potential bird flu vaccine. And what's interesting about this one is only in phase one trial. So it's really early. It's not late stage. It's really early into this. They're not expecting the results from the trial until the end of summer potentially. But the technology is another layer on top of this messenger RNA technology. So the messenger RNA traditionally for the COVID vaccines goes in, hijacks your cell machinery, produces copies of these spike proteins. This bird food vaccine is what's called self-amplifying mRNA. So they have all the ingredients, all the machinery on their back when they get injected. They just need to get in the body. So, This is a study looking at that. Now, Japan has been doing self-amplifying M-R-N-A COVID vaccines already. So this has already been put out there, but this company is looking at this for bird flu.

So we look at this study. It's a very small study. It's in Uganda. It's with 42 people. And they looked at the safety of this self-amplifying mRNA or the RNA. And we look at the table here. And you can see they're looking at grade three adverse reactions.

So to give you an idea, grade five is death, Grade three is you probably got to seek some hospital care. You might not be going to work. And you can see here, remember, 42 people in the study. We have 13 basically reports of neutropenia, 16 reports of lymphopenia, and then eight reports of thrombocytophenia. So that's basically white blood cell counts, low white blood cell counts, low platelet counts.

That's all affecting your immune system. And that's a big deal. I mean, unless these people had all three of those things, to them, which I would like to see teased out. I mean, even that is a horrendous numbers. Those aren't like one in a million. Those are like 50% to 90% if those are all happening to singular individuals. What a horrendous trial experience that is. And yet that didn't shut it down in its tracks. Right. And again, these are given, these semplifying RNA proteins and vaccines are being given in other countries. But this is now the next generation for the bird.

word flu conversation. So we're keeping an eye on that. And I want to stick with some of the studies now, some of the breaking studies that have been coming out, really been groundbreaking. One of them is the sudden infant death syndrome. So babies are dying, young infants are dying, and people, the scientific community had no clue what it's called or no clue how it was happening. So they just called it, what's a syndrome? And it suddenly kills you. And we don't know what it is. And we don't really look for what it is too much. And when it comes to like, could it be a vaccine? Well, we don't look for that in the post-mortem autopsies, we just assume it's just SIDS. We just put that label on it. So now we have a study. It's actually a systemic review of all of the literature. And what is it

looking at? Well, it's looking at the immature infant liver. So it's really like zeroing in on one of these specific pathways, cytochrome P-450 enzymes and the relevance to vaccine safety in SIDS research. So CPI-4-50, that's a, it's called a superfamily. It's a gigantic group of enzymes that plays one of the major roles in detoxifying things from the body, like drugs, obviously toxins, but things in the vaccine like aluminum, polysorbate 80. This is all part of that pathway. And what are the researchers fine? They said this. Results, CYP 450 enzymes exhibit developmental immaturity in infants and genetic polymorphisms. So just because they're infants, they have this immature pathway, but some of them are genetically vulnerable. Then it says,

This may affect vaccine-excipient clearance, while epidemiological evidence shows temporal clustering of some SIDS cases post-vaccination, causality remains unproven, inflammation-induced suppression of CYP-450 enzyme, raise questions, and potential metabolic vulnerabilities, which current post-mortem protocols often fail to capture. So that's a lot of words saying basically when you can't detox these pathways, inflammation arises and it affects the baby's entire body. It causes perhaps a cytokine storm that's actually in some of the literature they're looking at in the systemic review. And they're also saying that it affects the breathing pathway, the serotonin pathway, which is the autonomic nervous system.

And that basically stops the breathing of these infants. So we have a potential pathway. And this is really interesting and it's exciting because this could, if this is, this will revolutionize the entire space of the SIDS conversation and really lead to some justice for parents that have been told, well, this is just what happens to some kids. That's really amazing. I mean, that is actual breaking news. It's one of the biggest questions we have in the vaccine program. So many studies showing that, you know, the majority of SIDS cases happen within, I think, seven days of vaccination. And now we're starting to see a pathway. Again, Jeffrey, I just, I want to point out that is frustrated.

as we may be, we still have regulatory agencies that are starting to at least, you know, take baby steps into the right conversation, right questions. But look at what we've already said today. In, you know, in England, you have nine out of ten, you know, healthcare workers aren't getting the flu shot. Here, 85% Vanet Prasad, or maybe as Marty said, I think as Marty, 85% of health care workers in America are refusing the COVID vaccine. That means as this science starts to come forward. You know, we've had a concern, will people recognize it? Will they know what they're seeing? When you have 85% of the medical establishment not taking products because they're questioning it, they're going to be watching the science as it's coming in. They're going to

be watching these double-blind placebo trials that never happened before. And I believe, you know, we're going to have not just our bullhorn, it's going to be the bullhorn of modern medicine saying, hold on a second. I mean, you know, the right eyes are asking the right question. So, I mean, I feel very positive about it. If we can get there, right? As long as we don't have to wait till 2034. I mean, geez, we could all be dead by then if we have to wait for results on those timelines. So hopefully that's something that gets sped up.

So people get some answers quickly. Right. And speaking of answers, let's stay on this COVID conversation here because, well, it was only the biggest story in the last 100 years when it comes to the psychological manipulation, the population, biological warfare. And so when it comes to the scientific literature, If you look across that literature, you'll still see the conversation that this originated from natural selection, a wet market in Wuhan. You don't talk about lab leaks, even though the United States intelligence agencies with their classified information that they've seen say it is, the FOIA emails that we've read to you from the scientists involved in Fauci and Jeremy Farrar have basically shown that that conversation, they knew something was up.

But now we have actual researchers trying to get their evidence published in journals. One of them is Matt Ridley. He took to the telegraph to tell his story. He says the scientific community is still censoring COVID heretics. And he said this. Last year, a prestigious scientific journal invited me and a colleague, Professor Anton van de Marie of Oxford University, to prepare a scholarly paper summarizing the evidence that COVID began with a laboratory accident in Wuhan.

We did so, writing a 5,000-word paper with 91 references. The journal summarily rejected it. We revised it and tried another journal. Same result. And again. Part of the problem is anonymity, he says. And he goes on to talk about how the peer review system is broken and it's really more politics than it is anything else.

He says peer reviewers get to keep their identity secret, but the authors of the papers don't. This is a recipe for vindictive behavior. By keeping heretics out of the literature that dogmatists can then claim that there is no dissent and a consensus has formed. So that consensus is still trying to hold the line that this can. came from a natural situation as opposed to a lab leak or bioweapon gain of function research. So what did Matt really do?

He couldn't find a home for his paper. So the telegraph actually posted his paper, and here it is. We're going to go through it. And they titled it cheekly, it's time for the truth. Here's the COVID paper. They don't want you to read. And here it is. It's called the preponderance of evidence suggests that the COVID-19 pandemic began as a

result of a research accident. So now it's in the scientific literature. And they concluded this in only one city in the world where Sarbicoviruses, subject to gain to function experiments on a large scale involving human airway cells and humanized mice at inappropriate safety levels, Wuhan. At only one time in history was researched to create novel sarbical viruses with enhanced effectiveness through fear and cleavage under consideration 2018 onwards. He said the surprising failure to find better evidence from a natural spillover and the lack

of transparency from Chinese scientists, therefore best explained by positing a laboratory accident involving the live virus experiment as the cause of the COVID pandemic and attempts to cover it up. Last line is speaking volumes. So that is what the scientific literature is actually pointing to on top of intelligence agencies, their information on top of FOIA emails. We really have a clear target for our future here. So what's happening now? We need our government to really start pulling some of this funding. We saw that from Brooke Rowland. She's the head of the USDA. And there is still, there was still, I should say, bird flu gain of function research going on. that the U.S. taxpayers were funding in China with Wuhan-affiliated researchers.

If you can't believe that, well, it's over now. Here's the headline. This is that white coat waist. They spearheaded some of this, or much of this information. And this is the canceling of that contract. She announced it. These are, again, Wuhan-linked experimenters with dangerous bird-fugate function. And they were doing what's called Max Payne.

So if PETA was nowhere involved in this, they should have been. but that's just basically letting these symptoms run wild. And so that's over. But now we were talking about China, it looks like with their funding tax, U.S. taxpayer funding cut, they may be coming in the backdoor or through the border. And this is what's happening. Two Chinese nationals have now been charged by the Department of Justice with smuggling potential agro-terrorism fungus into the U.S.

These were people's, according to DOJ, these are People's Republic of China allegedly receiving that they're citizens of people of Republic of China. They're allegedly receiving Chinese government funding for that research and some of it at the University of Michigan. So these are now caught. The good news here, obviously, is they're looking out. We have the Department of Justice. We have border officials, the FBI. They're looking out for these things. And you got to question how many happened, how much of this was going on before these two were caught. So now that there's an alert going on, this is a really good start in the United States. Yeah, but really disconcerting. When you don't wrap your head around, you mean, there's a lot. viruses someone can bring in that just wipes out all of your crops and your food supply in America. I mean, scary and who sent them and what's really going on there? Lots of questions,

scary questions. And I hope we get to the answer that. So I want to talk to the UK and the U.S. There's some parallels going on right now. Just a couple weeks ago, we had an expert on the digital ID that DHS Secretary Christy Noem has been telling people to switch over to. That switchover happened in late May. That was kind of the deadline, at least for air travel here. The UK has their own conversation and their own switchover happening right now. If you go over to reclaim the net, they've been looking at a lot of these digital conversations. The UK's digital ID era starts this summer. It says beginning with a digital version of the veteran card and expanding to include driver's licenses later this year. This is where it's different than the U.S. The initiative is designed

to eventually consolidate all government-issue credentials into a single centralized app by 2027. So everything's going to be on your phone. In the U.S., obviously, we still have a card, a digital ID card. The UK is saying we want it all digital. Remember, that was the COVID vaccine passport. That was the trial run for this. And luckily in the UK, there's a lot of citizen groups, nonprofit groups that are standing up fighting for this,

trying to get some safeguards in place. One of them is Big Brother Watch. And they had this to say. Hackers now hold huge amounts of personal information about UK citizens after recent cyber attacks. This should be an eye opener to the government plowing ahead with plans to create a giant database state by producing digital ID systems. This new government app will hold a digitised version of our driver's licence

and masses of information on each of us drawn from multiple departments. We will launch the digital driving licence and it will go into people's wallets, digital wallets. A digital ID could easily include details such as every time you've seen your GP and your tax returns. This would create a honeypot for hackers and foreign adversaries who, like we've seen with the recent cyber attacks, already have a track record of trying to breach databases. Digital IDs would also exclude thousands of Britons experiencing digital poverty from being able to access basic government services. We're being sold digital IDs in the name of convenience,

but they come at an enormous cost to privacy, equality and freedom. That's why we're fighting to give you the right to say no to digital ID. Well, thank God someone's fighting, but I mean the idea, we think about a digital ID in America, about an international digital ID where we're being tracked everywhere by everything is about the most horrifying thing you can imagine. And as they mentioned there, it's not just the government you have to worry about centralizing all that information because we saw how the government acted during COVID, where they're punishing

people for their views and their informed consent when it comes to medical devices or vaccinations, but it's also, like they said, hackers. It's the treasure trove for hackers. So there's another organization called Together, UK, nonprofit organization. They actually, actually put out a digital bill of rights. And they're trying to get this adopted and put this in before this switchover happens. And it's actually a very intricate bill. I'm going to go over some of the articles here, but they're basically article one is saying they want people to have the right to choose offline or digital options.

So just basically right to choose. They want privacy and data protection. Obviously, they want financial freedom because this is going to this is going to link to your bank account and all your purchases. And they want obviously protection from surveillance because that goes into our next headline. here because what the UK is also doing in parallel, it's building out facial recognition systems that are akin really to what's happening or what has happened in China. And this is the Added Lovelace Institute and they looked at this rollout and they say this mass facial recognition rollout exists

in a legal gray area due to inadequate governance. So there's not really these checks and balances and the government is racing to put these facial recognition cameras up. And the final The final headline here, the UK police, because they're going to be utilizing it, mostly, are asking for more funds, hundreds of millions of pounds to expand facial recognition use. So they're running full speed ahead for this. The checks and balances aren't there. It's a legal gray area. And there's the government is saying, we want everyone aggressively to switch over to an app on your phone. I don't see this ending well if it's not, if it's not stood up against and changed.

And thank God, there's people in the UK and the world right now. now with eyes on this that don't want this to happen the way it's going down. Yeah, yeah, it's really horrifying stuff there. And it's what's on our horizon. And you put the facial recognition software with all the AI conversations, computer system tracking everywhere we're going, you know, you know, it really doesn't look good. You know, we're going to be talking about a lot of these issues next week, Jeffrey.

You and I, the whole high wire team, is heading, off to Freedom Fest. For those of you that haven't been to Freedom Fest, this is definitely one of my favorite conferences of the year. I guess I call it like a Libertarian Conference. It's going to be in Palm Springs, so it should be beautiful. We're obviously going to be broadcasting live right in the middle of it there on Thursday, but also I have multiple speaking events. Aaron, Siri is going to be doing speaking events. And you're going to be doing like a whole live feed that people can watch here on the Highwire live from. Freedom Fest Friday, June 13th on the Highwire.

So that should be funny. You're just going to be like, I know you're always doing those interviews. Now you're just going to go live and just grab all these people that are walking by all the speakers. What are you looking forward to there? Well, I just looking at the diverse ideas that people have there, Freedom Fest is kind of an incubator for, well, they would be called libertarian ideas, but these libertarian ideas are now really mainstream. So there's a lot of really interesting conversations there. We're just going to broadcast that live. So we're going to try something little new next Friday.

So tune into the high wire and the socials. So you'll be able to see that. And also our show on Thursday is going to be huge. All right. And excellent. This Sunday we're finally dropping the latest episode of Jeffrey Jackson investigates the rush to green energy. This is a, I think, a really huge story.

Tell me a little bit about that. Yeah. So this is the third installment of this. So we had polio first mental health and then now the rush to green energy. This is part one of two parts. It's a really expanded documentary. And we tackle the entire climate conversation from the science all the way to what's happening in the United States with policy, with actual mining, with the switchover, the aggressive switchover to net zero energy. Cover it all.

And you've been working on this for a year on this episode specifically. I'm really excited about it. I hope everyone goes and takes a look. Thanks. All right. Awesome. Jeffrey. I'll see you next week in California live.

I love doing this show sitting with you right on the state. It's a really different experience and people can be live in the audience with such a rare opportunity. Do we have the trailer ready to go to see Jeffrey Jackson investigates? Let's take a look at this. Climate change. Climate change. Climate change. Climate change.

Climate change. And a media war over that crisis. What we're talking about here is really the climate conversation that's dominated science and the conversation in society for decades. Well, the climate has varied over billions of years. sometimes huge. How has the climate change before humans started industry? Ice ages come and go. We've seen a lot of variation in the climate.

Dangerous human cause climate change. That's what the UN is focusing on. Dangerous is the human value judgment. The push towards a green battery-powered future comes with a major trade-off. It's the left's electric vehicle hype real. I thought climate change wasn't political. In your dreams, it's been political right.

been political right from the start. Where does the electric car fall into this? There is no greater source of carbon in our society than from combustion engine sources. Looking at headlines, I'm seeing the word the white gold rush. This is lithium. What we've always could have heard is that we need the minerals and we need them now.

You can file a claim on public land anywhere and you have the right under the mining law to work that claim. We have done this project right and not everybody agrees that we've done it right. The problem is that any kind of kind of extraction is enormously damaging to the environment. Regardless of whatever people say, they're sacred sites that are out there.

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of a real movement. And speaking of that movement, you know, what is the movement going to do? Are we prepared? Should we start seeing some sort of a crazy authoritarian takeover. I mean, look, at some point it's going to happen again. You know it. There's there's political systems out there that really just believe in the power nanny state and they want to bring it back to a theater near you. Will we be ready next time? Because I guarantee you. They're going to come prepared. They know what they got wrong last time.

We have to know how to brace ourselves. We have to know how to nip these things in the bud before they happen. We've got to be ahead of the game. We've got to be communicating with each other. All of this is the core principles that are brought about in a beautiful way. Weave together in such a genius and exciting platform in the new documentary, The Agenda. Here's the trailer for that. The lust to control other human beings is a story as old as time. There's a very strong drift in the direction of globalization, of the ultimate centralization of control in the hands of unelected officials at supernational organizations. They want all of the resources of the world in their pocket. The bigger picture is that an attempt is underway now to collapse liberal

democracy and replace it with global technocracy. This is a coup. They're saying we can control with rules, we don't need currency anymore. It's like an inverted prison. You are supposedly free to roam about, but everything you want to access is behind lock and key. The potential for social control is gigantic and potentially irreversible. They plan to commandeer land, reduce farming, and radically change the food we eat,

transform the supply of electricity, and then dictate how we use it, and replace currency with a system of credits. All three strategies are built on the premise of a climate crisis caused by carbon dioxide. I do not think there's a climate crisis, and I base that on all the evidence and the climate data sets that we build to answer questions just like that.

The government is very clear that they want a catastrophic story. There is no single science paper that proves conclusively that humans control all or most of the global climate. Europe's mad dash towards net zero is effectively economic suicide. Politicians are purposely impoverishing ordinary people, purposely deindustrialise in Europe. It's just tremendous amount of damage in the name of saving the planet. It does make you ask what is it we're actually saving if we're paving it over. I think what we're dealing with here is actually a global war on agriculture.

When you look at how many farms are selling up, we're walking into food shortages. If I can switch everybody from real food to farm a food, then 100% of the agriculture industry can go through my publicly traded stocks, and I have complete control. This is the biggest public relations scam in the history of the world. But it's far more than that. It's a blueprint. It is the action plan. All life on Earth is going to be radically changed.

Everything will be monitored. the environmental consequences of every human action. The general population cannot fathom the psychopathy of the vision that they're facing. Once the digital idea is in place, it's game over for humanity. Well, it's a powerful and beautifully made film that I think is incredibly important. I'm joined now by the producer of the film and British broadcasting legend Mark Sharman. Mark, it's good to see you again. Thank you for joining us.

Well, thank you for inviting me, Dale. It's good to be back. I'm not sure about the legend. A legend in my own lunchtime, maybe. Well, I mean, you're the real deal. You call it like you see it. Back during COVID, you were speaking out against the media that you had had a career in. I feel a simpatico with you that way,

having come from, you know, CBS and mainstream television. And I feel a sympathica with you now because, you know, A lot of people will say to me, Del, we have COVID fatigue. You know, we're over it. We're through it. It's in our rearview mirror. You know, can we talk about other things? And I know you've heard, I know you have to have heard the same thing yet.

You went out and made a documentary to say, this isn't over yet. They're still coming for us. You know, what's your perspective on that? Why make this film now? Well, to quote Phil Wiseman, who's my. film partner, you know, people think there's something wrong, and if you think there's something wrong, you're right. And it really started with a researcher in the UK called Sandy Adams, who is a big follower and disciple of Rosa Corey. And we were disturbed to see her presentation

about what was behind in the United Nations Agenda 2030 and the SDGs. And the SDGs, sustainable development goals and the more we dug into it actually the more awkward it became to understand so we sought out you know world experts and outspoken experts and put it together in the film it's interesting watching Jeffrey's piece earlier in the show in that it covers a lot of the same ground in that there's a very large chapter on surveillance and AI and the tools that give, I mean, I think in that promo, the trailer you've just seen, we say that the lust to control other human beings is as old as time. Well, of course, they now have the tools.

They've got surveillance. They've got AI. They've got potential digital currency. And worst of all, digital IDs. And we cover that. and they are all elements of control. I mean, it's almost as though, I don't think people realize quite what the future holds in this regard.

It's almost as though someone asks you to fill in a piece of paper and write down every single aspect of your life, not just your finance and your health and your driving license, but all kinds of personal, intimate details, and then just handing it out to the public. And that's basically what this digital database, which has been talked about in the States as well as in the UK. It basically takes away individuality.

It takes away privacy. And as I think we say in the film, it's the end of humanity as we know it. It's hard to convince people it's coming, and yet if you look at all the things that are going on the world, it's pretty clear that this plan is quite well advanced. It may not be a cohesive plan, but the dreams of those who would have us under control are definitely moving forward.

So our film covers surveillance. It covers health through the WHO. It looks at how big business has really infiltrated these supranational organizations. And, you know, they're not elected, Dell, but they're having influence over everyday lives of everyday people. But we also look at climate change and we look at net zero and we look at farm. and also education because the education system, certainly in the UK, is geared towards the same goals. And children, you know, we now have a very large population of children that have now, some of them teenagers and some of them adults who have been indoctrinated this way of thinking.

Yeah, we cover a lot of ground in it, but quite a lot of what Jeffrey was talking about, surveillance and climate change and the way climate change is being used to influence world policy. You know, it's really, I find it fascinating that, you know, when you meet someone and I've had the opportunity to meet you when I was in England, of course we had you on the show during COVID, but you meet people that you recognize, think the same way you do, their brains work the same way. They have the same level of skepticism. And when I look at what's in your film, and as you pointed out, just, sort of, you know, at the same moment, Jeffrey Jackson's investigating a part of that film,

which is, you know, this global warming, this use of global warming to bring in these authoritarian regimes. And in some ways, you know, I know that the research we're doing is always at a top notch. But when you see people on the, you know, across the ocean, living in a different country, but asking the same questions, coming to many of the exact same conclusions, it really is, it's sort of that, you know, science when it repeats itself, when journalists repeat themselves, when they look clearly and ask the same questions and they're getting the same results, you realize you are really onto something. You know, what is the climate in Europe right now? Do you feel like a large enough percentage of people

are questioning these surveillance systems that's being put in when they're walking by and seeing a camera being put in on a light post or they see the news talking about a new digital tracking system for their phone. Do you feel like you're going to win this over in Europe right now? I don't think there's anything like enough recognition. I mean, bear in mind that this, I think again we say in the film, the spread of these digital devices are sold as safety, of convenience, of help, and of course entertainment. and people are sucked into it without realizing.

There's an analogy that a fellow called Iva Cummins gave in the film where he says, it's like a drug. You know, you play people with the harmless stuff and you get them involved and it's fun to do and you get more and more into it. And then suddenly they give you the hard stuff and you're trapped. And that's exactly what's happening in my view with digital technology. People think it's all good fun.

and they think it's of a convenience. But, I mean, the UK is bristling with cameras. It's unbelievable. You know, even in the small towns and villages, there are cameras everywhere. And they sell it as been for your safety and to help traffic management and whatever. But they're everywhere.

I mean, everywhere. You cannot walk down a street without cameras looking at you. You know, and it's one of the more, more chilling parts of your film deal with exactly that. It's something called zero trust. I want to play this clip for you. Take a look at this. We've been drawn into this digital spy network

in the name of convenience, connectivity, safety, and especially entertainment. The 3D world of cyberspace creates virtual lives that are often more exciting than reality. Why is this technology being developed? It's all for the culmination of this digital prison from which there will be no escape after all the switches are turned on. The critical switch would be the introduction of those digital IDs and central bank financial control,

a world of zero trust. Zero trust is based on a simple principle. Never trust, always verify. Zero trust is a protocol that is implemented by cybersecurity companies. And what it really means is we don't trust you, and you have to prove who you are all the time, 24-7. So think of it as going from a world of implicit allow to default deny. In tomorrow's world, once zero trust is implemented in, say, retail,

everything will be behind plexiglass doors with a 3D camera, and it will only be unlocked through your digital identity and facial recognition if you have the available carbon credits in your digital currency. If you've reached the limit of your allowance, it could be access denied. This would apply to fuel, to travel, to meat and dairy products, to clothes and other consumer goods, because everything in life could be valued by its carbon footprint. Even access to the internet could be denied.

So the new world of zero trust is really a world of locks. It's like an inverted prison. You are supposedly free to roam about, but everything you want to access is behind lock and key. You know, I've really been, you know, grappling with this reverse prison or however he describes it. Because, you know, we've got self-driving cars that are just now entering the roads here in America,

a big conversation. I think Tesla is releasing a car any second. And then all of a sudden, we have self-driving cars so no one can speed. And you have this question, Mark. You know, I remember over the years I've had people ask me, what is your problem, Dell? If you're not breaking the law, why do you care if there's a camera watching you? What do you say to someone that's like, I mean, do you need to be able to break the law to be happy? Do you need to be able to speed your car to be happy? Why does surveillance matter if we, you know, do we need to have the right to break rules? Um, looks, and everybody has got something that they would prefer the rest of the world

not to know, number one. But it's not just about watching us and using our details. You can then move into the, the persuasive state. and I'm quoting Klaus Schwab actually here, but you can move into the persuasive state where through subtle advertising and psychology, they can really begin to control and push what you're going to buy or how you're going to think. The next stage is what Klaus Schwab is called the predictive stage, and he actually says there will be no need for elections anymore because we know how you're going to vote. Now that's a really dangerous statement. They're saying we don't need to ask you anything because we can tell you. It's prescriptive, which means we're going to tell you how to vote, how to live your life, how to spend your money. You know, who knows whether this will come to fruition, but it could.

And that's why we need to speak up now and say, hang on a minute. This is not just about entertainment. It's not just about your safety. It's not just about catching crooks on the street. Do you have a... By the way, that gentleman... Yeah. Sorry, by the way that gentleman describing it is,

called Amman Jabby who's a very clever scientist who used to work in Silicon Valley. He got out I think when he saw the direction of travel. Yeah, I mean we've watched many of these designers of AI run out of buildings with their hands in the air and just say, I'm sorry, I'm sorry for what I've done. It's quite chilling, you know, people saying we're not going to be able to stop it. We've made critical mistakes and that's just a part of this, right? I mean, AI, what is, you know, what capability does it have if we're not all holding, something that we're controlled by. When you just personally look at this issue, do you have like a timeline in your head? I know I keep just thinking, you know, people say to me, you know,

if you could take a time capsule, you know, 50 years ahead, what do you think you'd see? I keep saying, I don't want to go 50 years ahead. I'm more interested in like five years, maybe 10 years, because I think it's either happened or it hasn't. You know, I think that that's where, you're going to see whether this thing took hold or not. Do you have a sense? Do you have a ticking clock when you're involved in this conversation and working on a project like this? Well, the speed of change and the speed of development is astonishing.

So, you know, Agenda 2030 is just that. They want things done by 2030. I mean, they're not going to achieve all of that. But the pressure is really on. That's a pretty specific date. You know, you're right. 2030. I keep saying, right, take this.

for their word, we're talking five years away, they want, you know, global control. So, I mean, it's, you know, in my lifetime, the speed of change has just got faster and faster and faster. And, no, I think 10 years' time, we'll hardly recognize where we live. Yeah. Another part of the film, go ahead. Yeah. Sorry, the great irony is, of course, that, um,

Lots of the world policies are based on climate change and about saving the world and about carbon emissions and greenhouse gases. And particularly in the UK, we are going hell-bent on destroying every kind of traditional power source and going for solar panels and wind turbines. I mean, we're destroying the countryside with these things. I mean, it's a great irony, you know, in a country that doesn't get much sunshine. But the great irony is the great irony is the great. Great irony, this push towards surveillance and electric cars and electric this and electric that is going to require vast amounts more power than we've got at the moment. Yeah.

And the natural, the wind turbines and the battery powered and the solar panels, they cannot match demand at the moment. And yet we're going to need, you know, ten times that if we're going to wipe out. I mean, Larry Fing, the Black Rock chief executive, has said himself, that intent in, I think by 2030, he says that surveillance and AI and all the backup is required is going to use the same amount of power, sorry, 30 times the power, 30 times the power of an average city. And he says, where is that power coming from?

We haven't made those plans. I mean, the whole United Nations, agenda 2030, and this push to net zero is full of contradictions. You know, one thing works against another. They talk about, actually, I think you're going to go on to farming in a minute, but they talk about the environment and land and whatever. At the same time, they're covering over with solar panels and wind turbines. It's bizarre. It is really bizarre.

And to think, you know, we're all being starved to death. We are, you know, not able to run heat pumps during the winter. They're taking more and more energy away from us. you know, you're trying to get us blocked into 15-minute cities, 10-minute cities, five-minute cities so that we can't go anywhere. Meanwhile, you know, somewhere between 50 to 90% of all energy is going to be, you know, need to be created for this great controlling computer mind that they're building. So I frankly feel like, why saving the gas right now?

I need to power up. I need to, you know, protect myself. I've got to build a fortress to be able to block this insanity. So, you know, I'm not into this whatsoever. And the worst part of it is what they're planning on doing to our food or what they think might be food. You have almost a grotesque section of the film talking about, you know, pharma's involvement in food. Let's take a look at that.

It's basically a pharmaceutical industry taking over the food supply. If I can switch everybody from real food to pharma food, then 100% of the agriculture industry can go through my public. traded stocks, and I have complete control. So the idea is we get rid of farmers, we kill any naturally grown food, and we engineer food in manufacturing plants and laboratories. But I assure you that those guys are not eating this. Bill Gates is one of the familiar corporate faces, and he's investing heavily in the food

revolution under the guise of avoiding climate disaster. Cows alone account for about 6% of global emissions. So we need to change cows. And while he talks up the perceived problem, Gates is pouring money into the supposed solution, artificial meat and genetically modified crops. Crucially, anything that is invented or altered can be patented. The core of his agenda is he wants to do in agriculture, pharmaceuticals, by the way, what he did in the computer world. True power, massive, incalculable

wealth comes from owning intellectual property and then monopolizing it. They want to make it so that every single organism that is used for food is ultimately under their control, either through the 3D printing or through this genetic manipulation. So we're moving now very rapidly toward this totally centralized food system where a tiny handful of corporate interests in bed with totalitarian government will dominate the food supply so that there is only a giant public private partnership with total control of all food, all energy, and I believe water will be next. You know, he ends with the water, and I think about the fact that the new head of the WEF has you know, been caught saying, you know, that water is not a human right.

And, you know, and you see these images of, you know, you can't get through the glass. until you get the face recognition software. Is there a moment where they say you drank your allotment of water this week? Or you don't have the carbon credits that delivered the water here today, so therefore you can't drink water. I mean, it seems implausible, but we went through COVID, and we saw how quickly our government will go absolutely bonkers. Well, I mean, you could view it, and I think I do view it,

that the response to COVID certainly was a test. in how far they could control us and pushers. It was a, the psychology involved was terrifying. I mean, they used the masks, which everybody knew didn't work. They used the mask as a kind of badge of compliance. And to change the world order, and I do believe they're trying eventually to change the world financial system away from fiat currency and move towards natural asset based financial system. I've lost my thread there. To do it, to move away from that, you need people to comply and you need a big story.

COVID was a story. Climate change is a much bigger story. You can't separate or won't separate, they won't un-couple, finance. from climate change and Mark Carney I've noticed in Canada he's but you know Mark Carney's been advocating a change in the financial system for a while yeah he's now and at the same time he's he's a special envoy to the United Nations for climate change and finance yeah now it has to be a conflict of interest if you if you're trying to change the financial system

one based on natural resources, should you really be then advising on climate change as well? And he's backed that up with news statements in Canada since he took over as Prime Minister. He's saying again that companies who are part of the problem will not get financial backing. So personally, I think you would have to do two things. If you recognize that climate change is the big story that we all have to believe and it's the new religion and you have to go along with it. it. First of all, you've got to separate it from finance and be perfectly distinguish it because, you know, are the financial people getting involved in green energy and green everything

to save the world or are they using climate change to change the financial system? I tend to be quite cynical. But then I think you need to encouple it much more the financial operation and the climate change. But also we need a proper debate on climate change. I mean, you know, it's been the narrative of man-made climate change through CO2 and other greenhouse gases. It's been locked into the psyche for 40, 50 years. And pretty well all grants that have gone for research have gone into man-made climate

change. It's very hard to get your voice heard or get any financial backing. to do to work on any alternative reason. I mean, we talked to Professor Christie in the film. He's a very distinguished climate professor. And he says, you know, the climate is rising by about 1.5%. But it's perfectly natural. And if you look back over time,

the changes are very much in line with what we've seen before. And in fact, we're still a lot cooler than we were a few things. thousand years ago we are still coming out of an ice age but you know it's also the media you know I spent my life in mainstream media and that's a huge disappointment to me in that you know corporately and individually everybody buys the same story and conflicting arguments basically aren't allowed nobody asked the right questions and nobody says hang on a minute there must be other reasons for the changing climate it's carbon dioxide and

By the way, without carbon dioxide, everything dies. You have market gardeners here and probably in America who pump carbon dioxide into the greenhouses to make the plants grow better. Even Nathor is saying that over the past few years, the world is greener because of carbon dioxide. It's not necessarily a bad thing at all. Even if it is causing, even if it is causing, sorry, even if it is causing, because, climate change which is should be debated because there's plenty of evidence

to the contrary and it isn't it isn't right and it's not in a in a free debate you know we should be looking at all sides of the story to really determine what the truth is and you know it's too easy to use climate change as i say as a religion that must be followed and then use it to implement all kinds of different

agendas well and we're letting it be too easy because we're not asking the right questions media is not asking the right questions. I mean, for instance, if, you know, global warming is happening, climate change is real and is being caused by mankind, then I would say moratorium on any new advancement that is going to increase our energy usage by 30 times. So how about moratorium on all AI if we're going to all just say that, you know, climate change is real? And, you know, I mean, So just things like that that make absolutely no sense whatsoever. And also, you know, if CO2 grows things, I mean, just these things don't add up. They don't make sense. And, you know, when you look back now at your career,

Mark, why you got into media, why you got into television, you know, what has that journey been like as you reflect now? And were you always skeptical or was there a moment where you started? saying, wait, hold on a second, this isn't media anymore. This isn't news anymore. This is, we're a part of a propaganda agenda. Did you ever come to that conclusion? Did you always feel like that was the case? What was the turning point? No, I didn't. I mean, listen, as you well know, there's always been a relationship between governments and media. And sometimes, you know, we know the system of briefing. system of lobbying and you get how it works. However, throughout my career, we all saw ourselves as the ones to hold officialdom, governments,

councils, politicians, hold them to account, you know, and ask the questions and drive the stories. That's just disappeared. You see so little investigative journalism now, apart from, you know, the excellent work that you do in your station and a lot of independent media but of course you do it in full full blown top quality broadcast style which we've tried to do with this film as well because you know we want the message to look as though it's important and real but no i don't know listen i can understand the individual journalist particularly over co-bid who couldn't weren't allowed to speak up

actually but couldn't speak up because they've got mortgages to pay and kids to feed and everything else with the medical profession. But there reaches a point where editors or someone should say, enough's enough, and we must start asking these questions. And of course, as you well know, when one broadcast or media organization starts to open the door, the rest are quite happy to trip on through it. But who's leading the questions? You know, it should not be left with all due respect to you and the highway, brilliant as it is, you know, it should be in mainstream but mainstream I mean certainly from what I see in the States has been bought and paid for a long time ago and unfortunately it's happened here I mean

we're trapped between a media that's full of tripe you know stupid showbiz stories and footballers wives and that kind of thing and and propaganda you know and especially climate change I mean you try to tell anybody that these fires floods droughts are not climate change when in fact according to our film and according to the experts

they're actually more or less the same as they've ever been but media the media won't question it and you see them I think as Jeffrey's clip there you have media saying all the time you know climate change is real climate change and responsible this fire is a result of climate change

we must get it and we must change but yeah it's very disappointing for me you know who started out in the old school of journalism where you know I mean I remember being warned off never to accept money if somebody came to you after a court case because to keep it out of the paper you know we were the champions of free speech

and the champions of truth and the champions of as I said before holding governments to account I don't see that now I'm sure you didn't either yeah Well, look, this is a brilliant film. It's made by Oracle films out there in the UK,

who I've had the opportunity to work with. We've worked with them through the high wire when we need some things done out in England. It is a beautiful film. It's a powerful film. And I guess in order to watch it, we go to Theagendafilm.com. Is that where we're able to watch it right now?

Yes, at the moment, it's still on YouTube. Okay. So hopefully it'll get a wider audience. Have I got time to say one more thing? Okay. Yeah. When we work in our area, I don't know if you find it as well, but it's quite astonishing when you put out a film that's of quality

and clearly it's got some money to make, people start to troll us and say, we must be paid for. You know, we must be on the other side. We must be shills. It's quite bizarre. Yeah. You know, you can, anyway.

Is there a place that people can, yeah. No, I agree. And that's one of the problems with higher quality production is for some reason it can make people skeptical. But you are still trying to fund this film. So where can people go to donate to help make this film a success? And I know how expensive films are. Is there a donation page to get involved or is all that the same website? I think if you go to Oracle,

films, or if you go to theagendafilm.com, you'll find it there. Okay, and I'm being told by my producers right up there. Top right, on the same page, you can see it. So if you go to the agendafilm.com, top right, you'll get to click on the ability to donate. Please, please, you know, make that happen, folks. And how was this funded? How were you able to get this film together? We had a amount of months.

put up front by a lady who was really concerned about the effect on school children and her children and particularly the dumbing down of education the fact that textbooks were all and exams were all built around climate change and if you didn't go along with it you wouldn't get the top mark but particularly the transgendering and the sex education and the teaching of four-year-old kids about you know sexual preferences She was very angry about that and asked us to help with the film. So she put some money up on an entirely personal basis. And the rest came from our pockets, actually.

I know what that's like, Mark. Thank you for your dedication. Thank you for your career. Thank you for, I think, you know, it's a sign that we still believe in humanity that you haven't, you know, built a bunker and gone and hide, that you're still making movies attempting to wake people up. to what is really on the horizon. It's an honor and pleasure to know you,

and I want to thank you for all the great work you continue to do. Well, thank you. You should also thank Patricia Sharman, my wife, who is the driving behind a lot of this, because I might have retired by now if that wasn't for her dedication and driving at all. Yeah, well, good for you. You just got me into some trouble because, you know,

I need to thank my wife more often. We can't do it without those that, That really makes it all possible. It sounds like an Oscar. It sounds like an Oscar speech. It does. Mark, I'm going to ask you a few more questions on off the record right after the show. So hang in there and we'll get into some fun questions, some personal questions.

So I'll see you there. All right. Well, you know, look, there's so many different ways that we can bring pressure. And then there's some people that are just, you know, born to bring the heat. This is Jillian Michaels went viral. this week. She's a good friend of mine. I worked with her when I was a producer on the doctor's television show. She's always called it like she sees it. And this time she got to say it right to Lee Zelda. Take a look at this. I can always make a case speaking of obesity that people should

take agency. Oh, eat less and oh, move more. And all of that works. If the food wasn't, of course, engineered to be as addictive and we didn't have psychological vulnerabilities that were exploited, by the toxic triad of ag food and pharma. However, even when I look at myself, knowing everything I know about food, I'm not at home, I'm away. I go to a coffee shop, I get my coffee, and I'm like, there's plastic in the lining of this paper cup, and I just poured hot coffee into it today and tomorrow and the next day. On top of, I'm at a hotel. There are products, the cleaning products, all that stuff, chemicals, chemicals, chemicals, chemicals. And when I look at the reasons that I might have nodules on my thyroid or I might have little white matter lesions on my brain or God forbid I get cancer on the

next 10 years. I promise you it won't be a lack of exercise or eating salad. So it's it's the crap that you to be to be fair not to leave this at your feet are solely responsible for that I think is going to make the biggest difference because the most responsible person cannot mitigate this toxic load in a significant enough way. It's in the water. It's in the air. It's in everything we package our food in. So I think it's just in this report. Is there anything that will facilitate your ability to remove some of that crap? Well, if you want to see the answer to that incredible question, go check out, keeping it real with Jillian Michaels. Good on you, Jillian. Way to bring the pressure. Way to bring the truth. Like only you can. You know, there's a lot of conversations

going on this week. Some of them I've come from my show last week. One of the videos went viral. And I want to make something clear. You know, I've seen statements, oh, Dow left Maha. Maha is dead. Maha is a movement of the people, right? That's what it really is. And I think what's gotten it confused is this idea. Sure, Bobby Kennedy can call something maha or Donald Trump can call it But many of the people, you know, that make this happen are just regular people. And that's what I wanted to get back to. I wanted to get back to we, the people of the United States of America and this movement. And there's debates right now.

I think very important debates happening inside of this movement. Some people that are getting very, very demanding and clear on saying, Why is there any COVID vaccine at all, Robert Kennedy Jr.? The writing is on the wall. The science is there. It exists. This is a horrific technology. It does not work.

It shouldn't be promoted. It should be dead in the water and should have to go through multi-year, if not multi-generational studies to see if this is really affecting germline transfer. Is it inserting itself in the DNA? You're not going to get that even out of a double blind placebo trial that lasts one year. And these are important questions to ask. And I also want to say that one of the beauties of a movement is the fact that it's diverse, as the nation that we live in or the world that we live in.

You know, when I think about the most successful, you know, movement perhaps in America, I think of civil rights. And, you know, all jokes. Sometimes, you know, when we're dealing with infighting or people that are attacking each other, I always say, hey, you know, look, you know, we have. had Martin Luther King was assassinated and so was Malcolm X over the infighting that was happening in the civil rights movement. And that's considered one of the most successful movements of our time. But can we learn? Can we, you know, can we get better at this? Can we recognize that we all

have our place to play here, that we need those extreme people that are just uncompromising, demanding without any equivocation, we want change and we want it immediately. Then there's others that are like, hey, look, you know, Robert Kennedy Jr. has only been in there just, you know, 120 days now or so. And look how much he's done. And obviously, he's having to play chess. Obviously, it's a puzzle in there that we don't get to see. And, you know, maybe we should have some faith. I find myself really, really right now grappling between these two spaces because we're running out of time.

How much time does this administration have, you know? Of course, I got to work with Robert Kennedy Jr. So when I say people say, oh, he's compromised, I know that that's not the case. I know this guy is there to fight and we'll fight because this is what matters to him. And you don't spend 20 years on a topic getting dragged through the mud only to let it go once you're finally in there. But maybe they're not playing the right kind of chess. Maybe Marty McRey needs us all to pressure and say stop that vaccine right now. But what I want to say is whatever position you're taking also hold open that not everybody has to agree with you, that we all need to come at this from different sides.

And we've got to love and care for each other and make sure that what we do not do is tear the movement apart. Let's not turn on each other. We all know we have, you know, common goals. We have common interests. We want safe food. I know we want clean food. I know that I see the people that say that Kellogg's, you know, fruit loops didn't cause autism. But I think we all want cleaner food.

I think we want to be able to, you know, trust when it says organic. It means organic. There's a lot that we want. And when we decide if we're going to attack, I also want to point out, and one of the concerns I have is, what do you think Donald Trump's stomach is for all of this? If we start eating our own and attacking Robert Kennedy Jr., as he's trying to get things done, Is it possible that we could create such a distaste that Donald Trump says I'm done with it? I'm moving on.

And then the question I keep grappling with is if not Robert Kennedy Jr., then who? And if not now, then when? I mean, certainly I'm recognizing that things are being achieved that we have never seen inside of HHS. And my antsy, do I want more? Do I want it faster? Absolutely. Am I in mind of pressure? We are definitely pointing out on these shows the issues that are there.

But I think that we have to recognize we have powerful voices. How we use them right now is going to be more important than ever. Mark Sharman is not alone. I am right there with him. There is a tidal wave of surveillance and authoritarianism that is coming. And we need to make these years right now as absolutely. powerful and effective as we possibly can. But I also believe that as we demand more out of Robert Kennedy Jr., we should be demanding more of ourselves. Are we building the new system together?

Are we building the new community that doesn't rely on the government to tell us whether or not a vaccine is available? Because I have news for you. Whether there was COVID or flu shots or any of it, my family's never gotten any of it. I don't care what gets a problem. approved by the CDC. I don't care what's approved by the FDA. They can shove it. It's not going in me and it's not going into my kids. So while we're at it, let's do our job to wake up

everyone we know and say whether or not Venné Prasad thinks that it was a proper study, you can still turn this product down. You can still move to another state if the one that you're in is trying to force it on your children to go to school. We've got to resist every way we know it is possible. And resisting doesn't just mean demanding more from our government. It means demanding more from ourselves. Stop going to doctors.

Stop going to pediatricians if they use vaccines. And then praying that somehow they're not stupid enough to use the one that just got approved that you don't think was properly tested. Why are you there anyway? Get a chiropractor. Get a homeopath. Go to an acupunctrists. Change your diet.

Jog. Love each other a little bit more. we've got to bring health into our own hands. That is the most powerful statement we can make right now. Let's build a community so big and so powerful and filled with so many physicians that will never give you a vaccine. Let's build that world together while Robert Kennedy Jr. tries to put together this puzzle in some form of 5D chess, we're not going to take our foot off the gas or even stop the pressure that's there. but even if he does everything we could dream,

if the government is still our answer to health, we are effed. So get out there. Meet some people. Meet a chiropractor. Start building a new community for our future so that when that tidal wave comes, we go, boom, I didn't feel that.

We're still here. I'll see you next week.