The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 438: UNSETTLING SCIENCE

Episode Date: August 22, 2025

A new California bill could put children at risk, and PERK’s Amy Bohn joins Del Bigtree to break it down. Then, Jefferey Jaxen reports on Illinois’ shocking new law mandating mental health checks for kids. As BlackRock’s Larry Fink takes the helm at the WEF, more absurd restrictions roll out under the banner of “climate change.” Finally, Dr. Paul Thomas shares his battle with the CDC after losing his license for publishing a pivotal vaxxed vs. unvaxxed study.Guests: Amy Bohn, Dr. Paul ThomasBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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We're live on the high wire. We're going to figure out what's going on later, but we want to get this show rolling because it's a very, very important show. There's a lot happening right now in the world of vaccinations, especially this week. I think one of the most devastating blows that has ever been delivered to pediatricians has happened this week. a warning to all pediatricians, to all people out there.

I think your days may be numbered if we don't do something about it. Of course, I'm talking about this in the face of a JAMA study that recently came out talking about the lack of confidence in the vaccine program. This was it. This is the JAMA Open Network vaccination intentions during pregnancy among parents of young children. So they basically pulled pregnant women and people with very young children to see what are they planning for the vaccine program for their children? This is the United States of America.

This is what they discovered. On the graph, you'll find at the top of this graph, only 40% are planning on sticking with the entire childhood schedule. That means 60% of American parents now, those that are coming with young children and babies are planning, 60% are going to reject the CDC recommendations. They're going to reject then their pediatricians' recommendations. And in the face of this, as if it's not bad enough,

enough if confidence isn't low enough. The American Academy of Pediatrics has just, I think, dealt the death blow to pediatric itself with this new statement this week. Recommendations for COVID-19 vaccines and infants and children and adolescents. It's a new policy statement. Last week, they were calling for mandated vaccines in every single state without exemptions. Now they're saying you have to get the COVID vaccine into your infant children and babies. CNN has this headline and also in break with current CDC recommendations, leading pediatrics group recommends COVID-19 shots for young children. Of course, this is in the face of HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

and all the scientists at HHS recognizing the dangers of the COVID vaccine and coming out with a policy shift that looked like this. RFK Jr. says COVID shots no longer recommended for kids and pregnant women. Thank God for everyone watching the show and for anyone with blood moving through their brains, right now, no one would be going near a COVID vaccine. This thing has been so detrimental, so dangerous. And in the face of just all-time low confidence in pediatrics, all-time low confidence in the vaccine program, the AAP has decided, let's send out some shills on television, because this is going to work. Look, there's a lot of noise out there. Parents should really stick the

course and make sure that their children get all of the routine childhood vaccinations. And there will be more announcements coming from professional societies about this in the coming weeks. With respect to COVID vaccines, the American Academy for Pediatrics has reaffirmed that infants, children between the ages of six months and two years should get their COVID shots. The first encounter with COVID should be with the shot, not with the virus. There is still a very high risk in younger children, particularly six months to two years, for hospitalization and severe complications if they get COVID. And pregnant women should be getting the COVID vaccine.

This is a state of immunosuppression. So it is for the protection of the mom, as well as the best way to protect the baby, both the fetus, as well as the infant in their first six months of life. Ladies and gentlemen, you just watched the world's worst advice ever delivered. That is horrifying. I do not know. That's Dr. Celine Gounder, I guess it is, MD. I don't know where she gets her information.

Most of it, she read off of a card. She also, in that interview, tried to prove that. mercury is actually safe and that vaccines are going through placebo trials, which every one of you know on this show is absolutely not true. They're lying. This is the vaccine trial pyramid. It shows that none of the vaccines. We've done this investigation. We've sued the government. We've proved none of them were tested against a placebo. But this COVID vaccine, everyone knows how dangerous it is now. We are talking about turbo cancers. If you open up your ex or your Instagram, every single podcaster knows people are dying like crazy from cancer. We know she's

says that your first contact your infant should have with COVID is with the vaccine, not with the virus, a vaccine that's going to turn their bodies into spike protein manufacturing plants that goes to their heart, having their heart muscle producing spiked proteins so the immune system attacks their heart, gives the myrocharditis, paracarditis, which are all in the headlines, all the studies around the world, COVID booster shots carry increased myrochotitis risk for adults, for young adults, myrocoditis associated with COVID-19 vaccination. COVID-CDC-Drafted alert for myocarditis and COVID-19 vaccines, but never sent it. All the lies, all the cover-up.

FDA warns, the FDA warns of heart risk with Pfizer, Moderna, COVID-19 vaccines. This is an incredible moment. It's an absolutely incredible moment. And I just want to say right now that when I started this work all the way back in 2016 with the documentary vaxed. You know, I would say pediatricians are misinformed. I know they mean well. I know that they think that they're helping children with this vaccine program, but it is clear right now that the concept of pediatrics, if they're following the AAP's lead, they are now dangerous to this country and they're dangerous to the world. And everyone that has, you know,

got any concept of what's happening in the world, what happened with the COVID vaccine, knows that of all the vaccines to be pushing, AAP should never have gone near any of the, these, Robert Kennedy, Jr. points out the reason they are is because they don't work for doctors, they don't work for parents, they don't work for science. What they work for is the pharmaceutical industry. He points out on their own website. They go and say, like you, for all the money coming from Merck, Pfizer, Moderna, Sinope, all the people that have made these vaccines and want to get richer at the expense of your children. We were warned about this. And so I want to make a call out to pediatricians out there that I know mean well, that I know want to be there for kids

and have got to be themselves saying, wait a minute, this COVID vaccine's a disaster. And by the way, let's look at the hepatitis B vaccine in day one old infants, totally unnecessary. But look, you got to stand up. You're going to have to use your voice. You're going to have to stand up for children. This is why you got this job. If you stand behind AAP at this moment, I am telling you this will be the end of pediatrics. The word pediatrician is a about to become synonymous with baby killer. I'm right. That's what, that's what I'm telling you right now. What AAP has just done is destroyed the entire profession of pediatrics. And we all learned about this, even back in grade school, we heard the story of the Pied Piper. So first came in, got all the

rats out of town, but eventually they marched all of our children out of town to their own demise. That is what is happening here. This is the new Pied Piper, the AAP, destroying Piediper, putting children in known harm's way now with the worst vaccine ever made. That's breaking news. That's horrifying news. And that could spell the end of, you know, one of the great arts, which is pediatrics. You got to step up for your profession right now. You got to stand up for children or you're doomed.

Okay, speaking of the most dangerous place on earth to raise your children, why don't we go ahead and turn our attention to the People's Republic of California. Take a look at this. A bill making its way through Sacramento is now drawing some sharp criticism. At the California State Capitol, AB 495 is gaining national attention. Hundreds of people rallied on the steps of the California Capitol against Assembly Bill 495. I want to encourage you in a couple of days. Keep showing up.

Keep showing up. The bill creates a new process for short-term guardianships in probate court. Now, this allows parents to designate someone to care for their children temporarily while maintaining their parental rights. They would be authorized to enroll children in school and consent to their medical care with an affidavit. An event of a parent's detention or deportation. Thousands of opponents of the bill rallied outside the Capitol on Tuesday. Many citing concerns about potential misuse of the affidavit. Concerns about child safety should the bill pass and the language included in the bill.

There are no safeguards in that affidavit. There is no signature. There is no parent permission. We're fired on the permission slip. This is a child trafficker's dream. This is actually a kidnappers, a trafficker, pedophiles' dream come true. Can you imagine Trace dropping off your grandchild at a school here in Los Angeles, and you come back to picking them up at the end of the day?

They're not there anymore. You ask who took the child? The school doesn't have to tell you who took the child. You don't know where the child is. This is an absolute, absolute dangerous bill. Well, there's a march on the Capitol in California against AB495 just a couple of days ago. I'm joined by one of the mothers and warriors that was at that, of course. I'm talking about Amy Bond, who is the founder and president of Perk.

Amy, what the H is going on? I mean, am I to understand any Yahoo can show up with like an affidavit they've written out themselves? There's no need for a parent signature saying, I'm picking up the child today. Is that what we're talking about? Hi, Del, thank you for having me on your show. Yes, that's exactly what we're talking about. This bill, actually all someone has to do, any adults.

It doesn't have to be a relative. It can be any adult can come into a school. They have an affidavit form that they fill out. They check a box that says they can't get a hold of the parent. They can become the guardian of that child, remove the child from school, this person that becomes the guardian and caregiver. Yeah, yes. They can remove the child from school.

Hold on a second. We have fully just delivered ourselves to Crazy Town. Read this. I am unable to contact the parents or other persons having legal custody of the minor at this time. This is in the bill to notify them of my intended authorization. And this is okay. This is okay. All of the years.

I mean, when we grew up, our parents would say to it, was nobody picks you up but me. I don't even care if it's your uncle or a best friend of mine unless I have told you, unless this is clear. And now California thinks you need a law saying anybody can just sign their name, bring an affidavit and say I couldn't get all the parents. Give me that child now. And guess what this does?

If a person comes in and says they're now the caregiver bringing this affidavit form, first of all, they don't have to have a background check. There's no check of the home. There's no ID required to be checked or verified both when they fill out the form and when they go to a school. Schools are released from any kind of liability to check ID or any kind of verification. The only thing the bill says is that a person can give their Social Security number or the Medicare, Medi-Cal card, and that's sufficient. So there's no parent signature required. There's no court signature required.

there is nothing to confirm that this person is a legitimate caregiver authorized by the parent. And not only can they pick up a child from school, but they then can become the person who authorizes medical care, dental care, everything and anything that would be within a parent, of course, a guardian's jurisdiction to take care of your child. So it is probably, Dell, I think one of the worst bills that we've seen in California yet. And the problem is that the legal loopholes that this creates, anyone can come and pick up a child. And it's not just public schools, it's private schools, it's homeschool, just imagine. Who authorizes Bill? I mean, I want to know who these people are. Are they, oh, do I share DNA with these people? I mean,

honestly, I can't imagine that any human being in the world that we live in today, with all the child trafficking, with all the dangerous children are under, you know, why do you think, you know, we have helicopter parents, you're arrested if you let your child walk, you know, down the street to go to a park down the road. But anybody can pick up your child now. I think we've got a few more lines from this bill we can take a look at. Here we go. A caregiver's authorization affidavit that meets the requirements of this part authorizes a caregiver 18 years of age or older who completes items one to four inclusive of the affidavit provided in section 6552 and signs the affidavit to enroll a minor in school and consent to school-related medical care on behalf of the minor.

It goes on. School-related medical care means medical care, including immunizations, physical examinations and medical examinations conducted in schools for pupils. That is required by state or local governmental authority as a condition for school enrollment or participation, local education-related extra-cureal activities. I mean, can you imagine you're not vaccinating your kid or they find out or whatever the case? They just, you know, find a relative, find anybody that will take your kid, I'm, I got an affidavit, I am the parent for the day, I'm going to catch them up on everything. I mean, this is just one more step in this incredible slippery slope that California's been in

ever since SB 277. But Amy, speaking of, here's the sponsors. I just want to remember these people forever. I guess the main sponsor is Celeste Rodriguez. This is a terrible idea, Celeste. I don't know what planet you're living on. Damon Connolly, John Herobedean, Ash, Calva, Alex Lee, Catherine Stephanie, Rick Spur. Hey, if you live in California, I think you've got to think about, you know, what you're doing there.

Is this leadership? Is this the type of thing you voted for? Unbelievable. But speaking of SB 277 where all of this starts, you know, I know we're fighting lawsuits like crazy. Of course, SB 277 was the bill that forced, forcibly vaccinated every child that wanted to be in a school in California. California. We've been fighting like crazy at I can. I know Perk, you've had lawsuits. There's many, many different groups of lawsuits. We recently won back exemptions for the California, you know, college system. But how are we doing at the legislative level there, which is something that

you're deeply involved in? Yeah. Well, and I think this is the point that there is actually good news, even in California. So two things really quickly. So for the first time in 10 years, we actually are ready to announce that we have a Democrat legislator who's willing and prepared and committed to champion the cause of reversing the harms of 277, SB 276, and also restoring back personal belief exemptions, writing the wrongs related to doctors, and making sure that there's legislation drafted, new legislation that protects medical privacy for all Californians. So you know, you lived in California, Dell. This is literally something that everybody is praying for

and hoping for 10 years. And the oppression on families in California, children can't go to school right now. They are getting kicked out in the middle of the school year. Medical exemptions are getting revoked by the California Health Department. And what's happening, of course, that you know with doctors, doctors have been punished,

licenses have been removed, and personal beef exemptions and religious liberty has been taken away. So with all that in mind, the great news is that we have a Democrat legislator who is willing to champion this cause and restore back to all Californians, their personal belief exemptions, medical privacy, and also potentially create an amnesty for all the doctors who have been punished retroactively. So when SB 276 passed, as you all know, the bill actually punished doctors backwards in time when there wasn't even an SB 276. So from 2015 to 2019, doctors were retroactively punished for a law that didn't even exist.

So the amazing thing is that this California Democrat has to be a Democrat in California because you can't win on any of these big issues without having strong Democrat leadership. The Democrat, you know, Senator, he's ready to go. Is he all alone in there? I mean, are you finding that there are other Democrats that are starting to soften on this issue? I would, I would think with the American Academy of Pediatrics now mandated, I'm sure California will probably go full in on, you know, COVID vaccine for infants, that's going to turn people that understand science are aware that there's real problems with that vaccine. This, all these authoritarian measures, how it's been handled. So you're, I mean, is there a sense that there's an allergy now forming even inside the Democratic Party for this level of authority? authoritarianism in California? Yeah, absolutely.

There are Democrats that are sympathetic to what has already happened with SB 277, SB 276, and also during COVID, it woke a lot of Democrats up as well to how far in extreme the laws and mandates went. And so a lot of these legislators, they are sympathetic. Democrats are sympathetic. There's more than just the senator who's ready to champion this cause for medical freedom for liberty. And yeah, there's going to be pushback for sure. But the fact that we have a Democrat shows everybody how much we're winning on these issues. People woke up in every industry

during the time of COVID, obviously for the past several years. And that includes Democrat legislators who now see that there's been so much harm done to families and doctors and children don't have access to education the same way every child should. So it is, I mean, I mean, really, it's a phenomenal thing what's happening. I think that the polls out there, there's surveys that have been done. There's one recently, and just in January, that shows a shift in public opinion on this issue, and it's impacting these legislators as well. There's been an increase of the public opinion showing that medical exemption should be allowed for parents

for any kind of medical reason. You see an increase on religious exemptions, philosophical exemptions, And when we see a public shift in that, it's doubling. There's a, I would say, the statistics are people are strongly supporting it doubled to what they were in 2019. Wow, wow. So that is impacting these legislators to know this, to see this. And right now, that's exactly what Perks doing is we're working with these legislators.

We're, you know, bringing coalitions together of organizations and people so that we can get this across the finish line. And I think now is the time. How do we help you out doing it, Amy? How do people get in touch with you and figure out how they can get involved? Because this is the time. I think the American Academy of Pediatrics just dealt the death blow to, you know, the sort of doctors position here, which is going to get parents a lot of, you know, wind at their backs now.

I think California is just gone too far. So how do we get involved? So this is way people can get involved. They can essentially sign on to the letters that we're sending to the legislators right now to show that the people want this. And I mean everybody, organizations, doctors, experts, any person can sign this. And we're asking everyone to sign this in support no matter where they live because we need to show the Democrat legislators. We have enough support to get this across the finish line. So all it takes is people signing up right now.

That's what we need. We're going to organize people into groups. to advocate and talk to their legislators. There's a lot of work to be done. But honestly, you know, I'm very optimistic even about California, which is one of the worst states ever on these issues. Well, you better get to it, Amy, because I've got to say, I live here in Texas and everyone's painting their houses

and getting them ready to sell like hotcakes as we see everyone racing out of California looking for freedom of Texas. So you better get on it. My understanding is you've even looked at a federal level. Did you, you know, put forward a potential? letter to Donald Trump about executive order. Tell me a little bit about this real quick. Yes, yes. Absolutely. The bottom line is we could win on these issues, 100%, even in California nationwide. So here's what we've also done. There are three ways that we can win on this issue.

One is in the courts, which I can. You guys are phenomenal in the legal work that you do and the wins that you have. But one is we can win in the courts on medical exemptions, religious liberty, exactly on this issue. Two, legislative, which is why. we're working with these senators to bring back personal belief exemptions, all these things that we just talked about. And three, the other area that we can win on this is through executive orders at the executive branch level. So with that in mind, the other thing that we've done is we have sent, we've prepared a letter to go to President Trump. And that letter is addressing the fact that religious liberty has been removed and taken away from, as you know, multiple states, the five big states with New York, Connecticut, Maine. California, West Virginia. And so we're sending this letter to President Trump. We already have

hundreds of people that have signed the letter. Again, organizations can sign. Anybody can sign. And the amazing thing about this, too, is we're asking President Trump not to impede on state rights because you can't do that, but what we're asking him to do is to draft and sign an executive order that will restore religious liberty by defunding any educational institution or state that is violating the First Amendment. So, you know, schools already have funding that comes from the federal government. So why not ask the federal government through President Trump to cut that funding if schools are violating the First Amendment rights of families, which they are?

So that's exactly what we're doing. We have a lot of support growing. It's going in front of this letter is going in front of top advisors to the president, to specifically. And, you know, from a faith leader support, I want to say. say this too. We have built a coalition with the Korean pastors, with Hispanic pastors, and it's not just a few. It's thousands of faith leaders want this liberty protected. And obviously, as faith leaders, they're going out there and speaking on behalf of what religious liberty is, but we're bringing them together to sign this executive order. And again, anybody can sign an executive order.

we really, really want bank leaders, especially to join in organizations. But the point is we've got to show through the people, through the voice of the people that we're the ones in charge. We're the ones that demand our rights. If our rights have been taken away, we're the ones, and we're the only ones that can get it back. So that's exactly what we're doing, Del. Fantastic, Amy, you're a warrior. I love that you're out there. Perk is doing such great work. Get involved with Perk. You can go to perk-group.com and see all the great work that they're over there. Amy, thanks for taking the time and giving us a deeper look inside of the insanity going on in California. It's really nice to hear because on the outside it looks terrible,

but it does sound like there's a little warm camfire happening on the inside and maybe some good will come out of it. Amy, thanks for taking the time today. Thank you, Del. Thank you so much. All right. Take care. Look, you can tell that we are having a massive effect now. We've been at this. The high wire started back in early 2017 at that moment. We were the only ones. talk about vaccines. We're the only ones bringing this to the forefront. Now everywhere you look, every podcast, everyone's talking about it. You're seeing the AAP making terrible mistakes out of panic. They're panicking because they see that we're about to win the exemption in West Virginia. We're going to pull off the religious exemption one week after getting that injunction. What do they do?

They say, we're asking all the states to get rid of exemptions. That's 47 or 45 states out of the 50 that they say we want to go against that many states and their freedom. terrible idea. And then Robert Kennedy Jr., as we've been pushing for, get rid of that COVID vaccine. He finally does it for kids. And now they come out in favor of the worst vaccine, most deadly vaccine that's ever been made. These are mistakes when someone's under pressure. We've got them under pressure. All of this work over the years has been building this incredible, you know, castle, if you will, of truth. Well, a new part of that castle is being built right here on the campus that I can. We want that castle to stand forever. At first we had the high,

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we're doing and sort of stake your claim that you were here present and accounted for you made a difference at the time where it was most important for the future of humanity our species and certainly United States of America all right we have a huge show coming up I've got Dr. Paul Thomas coming in of course he's been so outspoken at first did all the studies the Vax versus unbacked studies with his own children and his practice as he grew and learned more and more and more opposed to vaccines. Now he's got a lawsuit against the entire CDC vaccine program. I'm going to ask him about that. And I'm going to ask him if he thinks I'm right. Did the American Academy of Pediatrics just deliver the death bro to all pediatricians and, you know, that entire profession? But first, it's time for the Jackson Report.

It's really wild, Jeffrey, you know, when you see the full press attack, now that's going on, how desperate the opposition seems. On one hand, it can be very terrifying, but really, I think it's just such evidence that they feel backed in the corner. They realize now that we have the momentum, and they don't care what they look like. They don't know. They're like screaming like banshees, you know, trying to just assert authoritarianism. It's going to backfire. It's incredible that they're coming out of boardrooms and thinking, this is our way forward. more authoritarianism and pushing the worst vaccine ever made. Incredible. Yeah, you know, they say never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. This seems like what's going on

right now. And the agenda driven is it's so top heavy. And there's not much individual autonomy. So you see these huge movements going and they don't course correct when they clearly a lot of the public sees them. The media no longer has their back. We have the media. We have the views. because people are looking to us and other alternative platforms for narratives now. So they're losing in a big way. And one of the themes I see, like with AB 495, I keep seeing the bills that are putting state bureaucracy between parents and the relationship with their children or their autonomy and their rights of their children to basically parent them.

And one of the states that has done this and put this into law is Illinois. And it looks like this. Okay. Well, Governor Pritzker signing into law today, a new state initiative. The new law will require public schools to offer age-appropriate screenings to identify mental health concerns in students in the third through 12th grades. It's our responsibility to ensure that young people have all the support that they need to get the help that they deserve. The State Board of Education will work with the children's behavioral health experts on what guidance should be given to school districts. An annual check on sadness, worry, fear, and other problems would help to identify young people who need to talk.

Opponents are skeptical of giving public schools that kind of authority. It's a slippery slope. School districts in the state are forcing children to go through mental health exams. So I think it just opens a can of worms. A can of worms indeed. Oh my God. And this is law. This isn't even speculative.

This has been signed. Absolutely. It goes into effect in 2027, 2028 school year. There's a little leeway there, and they're working out details of it. First state to do this requires at least one annual mental health checkup. And what they're doing is the states are partnering with psychiatric hospitals and schools to have a centralized resource for helping these kids out. But as you heard in that clip, again, we're medicalizing normal human emotions that children have, sadness, fear, worry, and you're putting it into a system that a psychiatric system with a limited

toolbox that has really been a pretty big failure. If you look at just the numbers of kids with mental health, this is a disorder that's been going up for quite some time now. And I want to, I want to put the irony of this is you have schools. The schools get this power. The schools were the same people that supercharge the mental health disorders during COVID. They were the ones here. the teachers unions that were blocking schools from reopening during COVID, even though the science showed that they could. And we know from the Great Berington Declaration that closing schools created a mental health crisis that surged a mental health crisis. And this isn't the first time we've seen the state or schools try to come between children and their parents using mental

health as a guise. And this is something in 2014, in Scotland, they tried this. They call it the name person scheme. And what happened was basically, they would sign a health agent for every preschool child. Everyone would have a government agent to deal with their health and their well-being. And that would follow them throughout school. You can imagine what could go wrong there. Well, that was challenged in court in 2016. They said it violated the human rights. It violated family life under the European Convention on human rights. It violated privacy. 2019. They scrapped it. The Scottish government just scrapped it because it was a complete failure. there is so much pushback on this. But let's look at this actually would mean. So your child is in

school. The parent is not there and they go to a mental health screening. Well, what kind of questions they ask? They're going to ask science-based questions. Would they ask, are your parents vaccine hesitant? Have you had all your vaccines? Do you think they wouldn't ask that? Why would they ask that? Well, that is what the science is saying. If you don't believe me, here's some of just a little section of the science. Why are anti-vaxxers willing to harm themselves and others? Psychology today. Here's another one. Vaccine hesitancy is associated with negative psychiatric outcomes. That was during the pandemic. And you just showed a study that showed 60% of pregnant women parents will not be following the CDC's vaccine schedule. So are we to believe that those 60%

of kids in the US because of their parents aren't giving them the shots are going to have negative psychiatric problems? Well, that's what the science says. I mean, here's another one. Yeah. Well, you bring up such a good point here. I mean, I'm not. not to interrupt you, but you know the questions go to the parents, right? Do your parents own firearms? Do they talk about homosexuality? Have you ever questioned your own sexuality? Would you like to do some reading that we don't want your parents to look at?

I mean, this is just the worst case scenario, but go on. I mean, I'm mind-blowing that this is already passed. Absolutely. And so, again, COVID-COVID. COVID-vaccine hesitancy could be linked to childhood trauma research fines. You didn't get your COVID vaccine? Are your parents beating you? Are they abusing you?

Because we have science that shows that if you didn't get that shot, that may be happening. And the problem is when this gets fed into an overarching AI machine, humanity's out of this, and it's going to follow that science. So you're just going to get spit into a machine. You didn't get the shots. Boom. We're going to put you on anti-anxiety at SSRIs. And you can see how fast this can go.

And so I want to go to the other space that is really being avoided by this question. Children are out there. the lockdown that was pushed by all of mainstream media, most of the U.S. government, a public health agencies, the AAP, Tony Fauci, that caused a supercharged a mental health crisis. Then we have right after COVID, as we reported, AI was just thrown in the laps of these children. We have Mark Zuckerberg saying that he wants most of your friends be AI chat bots. Well, let's look at what's happening from internal documents from Meta and Mark Zuckerberg. Here's Reuters. Meta AI rules have let bots hold sensual chats with children. It says an internal meta platforms document detailing policies on chat

bot behavior has permitted the company's artificial intelligence creations to, quote, engage a child in conversations that are romantic or sensual and to generate false medical information. Well, that seems pretty safe. That's going to be really good for their mental health. So thank God, there's people, Josh Howley in Missouri that is a senator there. He's calling for a probe immediately here. U.S. senators call for Metaprobe after Reuters report on its AI policies. We need to haul these people up like Mark Zuckerberg in front and say, look, this isn't just one bad memo. This is now a pattern. What's going on here?

These kids are where there's meta, character AI. Engruomed by robots. Unbelievable. Causing mental health problems. And so this is a huge issue that's not being addressed and not even to talk about the psychiatric, the anti-anxiety meds, SSRIs, the science. Well, think about the implications of that and the work that we. we do, Jeffrey. I mean, this is what they want, right? First, you mandate the psych evaluation, then they determine that the parents are not on board with vaccines, and they're not on board

with you getting the SSRI we just recommended. So right behind that, you'll start seeing the mandate of psych drugs, of Ritalin, of attention deficit disorder drugs. This is what we've always been concerned about. This is that slippery slope. Once the authoritarian government, once your teachers think that they're more important than the parents, it just keeps going, in the absolute wrong direction. We're looking at California fighting for its life. Illinois now, you know, destroying parental rights. Folks, I mean, I just want to say, if you think this work is over, if you think we're done,

if you think it's time to just sail off from the sunset and say mission accomplished, just because Robert Kennedy Jr. is HHS Secretary, it is clear we have our work cut out for us. They're panicking, as we said, but we have work to do. Jeffrey, that's just a really horrific story. I think about my own mother that was always worried about people that would come in. It's why she took me out of school. I don't want them brainwashing you. I don't want them making you think you're having a problem.

I want to raise you recognizing you can make a difference in the world. You're a powerful person. That's what your kids need to hear on a constant basis. That is not what is happening in a psych evaluation. Absolutely. And I want to move now to an update on the World Economic Forum. Klaus Schwab stepped down. We had the Nestle guy who believed that water wasn't a human right.

He stepped in as the co-chair, and now he's gone. We have somebody else moving in there. The world's largest asset manager is BlackRock, and this is Larry Fink, who runs BlackRock and manages almost $12 trillion of assets in 2024. And where does he point those assets? Where does he wield his power? Well, this is just one interview with Larry Fink. Take a listen.

The faster that we could find ways to mitigating the rising temperatures, I would say the more just society could be. And so to me, it's, it's, it's, we don't have much time. We need to be learning about these new, uh, the new technologies and how to move forward. And we need to then inform our investors, ultimately where we think, uh, the next opportunities are going to be too. And as Bill, bill in his book wrote about, we need to employ 50 trillion dollars to get to a, to a green world. 50 trillion dollars of taxpayer money towards an absolute disastrous hoax that only makes us richer. I mean, what could possibly go wrong, Jeffrey? We just have the guy that is managing probably your home loan, your bank account, your automobile company that built your cars.

BlackRock has got its fingers in everything. And now he's just the head of the W.E.F. What could possibly go wrong? Anybody who hatches a scheme that has Bill Gates laughing like a. Scooby-Doo villain should really alarm people at that point. So again, we're hearing this, we're hearing these words, this rapid net zero push. There's not much time. It's up to us for a just society, you know, the trillionaire class.

And he says, we're going to inform our investors, this this really gobbly group talk of, it's just going to be touchy-feely. We're going to just suggest to them how to reshape society. Well, how is that suggested? Here's one of Larry Fink's comments, BlackRock CEO slammed for force. behaviors. This comment in 2017, he was talking about the DEI initiatives, but he says this, quote, behaviors are going to have to change. And this is one thing we're asking companies. You have to force behaviors. At Black Rock, we are forcing behaviors. That's Larry Fink. And so let's look

at how they kind of shape the market. So they're talking about informing their investors. This is Andrew Bailey, again, out of Missouri. A lot of great things that happen in Missouri. Attorney General Andrew Bailey filed suit against Black Rock, also State Street and Vanguard for illegally manipulating the energy markets. And he said this in his press release. Over several years, the three asset managers acquired substantial stock holdings in every significant publicly held coal producer in the United States, thereby gaining the power to control the policies of the coal companies. Using their combined influence of the coal market, the investment cartel collectively announced in 2021, their commitment to weaponize their shares to pressure the coal

companies to accommodate green energy goals. Basically, our cartel wants you to do this and you do this or you go out of business because we're going to put you out of business that's how larry think is moving so yeah i bring up these conversations because a lot of people are looking at the department of energy president trump and saying well we have a little bit of a pause here respite we have breaks on this massive climate push that's reshaping society yeah and we we have it's not what's what's happening the rest of the world it's not what happens what's happening with the largest asset managers in the world this is going full speed ahead and as a side note to that we have andrew bailey he has recently stepped down just as of days ago from the Missouri AG position and he's going into the FBI as as a co-deputy

director. This is, I believe, actually great news because that's a power position now. This is somebody who sued China for $25 billion for their response to the COVID disaster. He also sued the Biden administration for their censorship regime. So this guy is a heavy hitter. Now he's kind of installed at one of the top positions to the FBI. Pretty good news, in my opinion. And so let's move this kind of this. conversation to the climate science, if you will. And people watching this may have, we've been watching for however long you've been watching the highway, you know that the vaccine conversation, we've been told it's settled science for a long time.

We've shown it wasn't. Our ICAN lawyers have shown that it wasn't as well from FOIA documents or depositions. And so the climate conversation is the same thing. And here's a study, a new study that just came out, literally called unsettling the science, talking about the complex climatic system. And it says here, the research presented here challenges the ideas that we live in a greenhouse and that science can be settled and revisits the most fundamental topics related to climate. These researchers basically are suggesting they replace this word greenhouse gas with

atmospheric radiative effect because the idea of a greenhouse is not really how Earth works. And that is actually something that came about in the late 50s, early 60s, when this club of Rome push happened, you had this buzzword greenhouse, greenhouse effects. So they're saying, let's go take away these buzzwords and let's get back to actual science. scientific terms, we're talking about this. So they conclude this. There's an empirically verified atmospheric radiative effect, ARE, in the atmosphere, not only on Earth, but also on other planets. On Earth, ARE is dominated by water vapor and clouds, with CO2 playing a very minor role, let alone human added CO2, which represents only 4% of total emissions to the atmosphere.

So they go on to say, focusing on one of the factors affecting the climatic system, namely the anthropogenic CO2 emissions and basing on models that emphasize that this factor may distort our perception of the big picture and can be detrimental to science whose objective is to pursue the truth. And that's all we want here is the truth. We want actual science. And while we're continuing to wait for actual science, although there's a legion of scientists doing this, they've just been pushed out of the mainstream conversation until now. We're having, again, this rapid societal push with ridiculous, ridiculous suggestions at this point that, they're moving into policy on how to fight climate change.

Here's one from Associated Press. People often miscalculate climate choices. A study says, one surprise is owning a dog. So I had to backtrack this to the actual study because I'm thinking what's going on here. You go to this study and they're looking at climate action literacy interventions. So they're looking at what people think they're doing to fight climate change and what are they actually doing.

So they've said this. They propose this question, do people misperceive the effect? of their climate behaviors. They say we found that participants significantly underestimated the mitigation potential of behaviors like not adopting a dog or taking one fewer long-haul flights while we greatly overestimating the potential of behaviors like using efficient appliances or recycling comprehensively. So again, they're basically saying, forget recycling, forget changing your appliances, get rid of your dog. That's going to be the best way to to stop the oceans from, you know, getting any deeper.

Exactly. And they're basing this because dogs are carnivores, they're meat eaters, and, you know, that has a larger carbon footprint. And everyone knows dogs fart. Right. Amazing. So what's kind of scary in this article, this research, is they're used these terms like behavioral plasticity,

referring to the degree in which behavior can be changed. And they're saying these are strategic starting points for policymakers. And as we show last week, these strategic starting points for policymakers often become law pretty shortly afterwards. So, I mean, I don't think they're going to be able to get people to not have dogs anymore to stop loving dogs or adopting dogs. But I don't know, I really don't understand that whole aspect of this. But good luck.

But they're also saying long-haul flights. There has been a big push when you're seeing this now. There's been a push to keep people locally. You shouldn't be traveling anymore because it's bad for the climate. taking flights. That's why they're seeing these 15-minute cities pop up. That's why you're seeing people talking about ride-sharing. You're even getting automatically driving cars. That could be backfired pretty quick. But you've got to ask the question, how do you inspire people to travel less? You don't want people to visit places, right? Well, it's not just going to magically say you can't

travel anymore. It may start looking like this. Hawaii, one of the first states to do this. New tourism tax aims to offset costs of climate change. So make it a little more expensive to go to places. We know in 2019, the UK government commissioned a study looking at how we get to absolute zero with carbon, not net zero, it is absolute zero. And this was the UK fires document. And we know that this is on the agenda in 2029. By 2020, you can see here on this chart, they want all airports except Heathrow, Glasgow, Belfast closed by 2030 to 2049, all remaining airports closed.

So the airport industry reaches net zero by stopping to fly. The airport industry is gone. There's no more airports. But when it comes to tourism, right now, since we still can fly, the tourist spots are trying to make it a little more uncomfortable. Here's Greece, for example. Greece is shutting down beaches, declares 198 beaches as fully protected. This is because of the climate.

And so they're taking out the umbrellas and the sunbeds. They're just making it a little more uncomfortable for you to be there. But when that doesn't work and when taxing doesn't work, then the protests happen. And it looks like this. Water fight on the streets of Barcelona. Locos spraying tourists ending visitors fleeing from their tables. The most visited museum in the world failing to open due to a spontaneous strike. Thousands in Italy and Portugal are protesting tourism.

Thousands of protesters walking through the city over the weekend, chanting tourists go home. Tens of thousands have taken to the streets and the Canary Islands to protest against mass tourism and its impact on housing and the environment. A group of residents gather on the beach. Anger has grown amongst the locals who say they want their beaches back. All beaches are ecosystems. Any place in the planet don't want this kind of tourists because destroy. We need responsible tourism, not mass tourism. So some cities are actually taking drastic action.

In Amsterdam, they're banning new hotels from being built. Venice is charging tourists to enter Venice for the day. People just don't feel like it's not. Europe could be heading for a long hot summer. of anti-tourism protests. I can't imagine that for your life savings, saving up for that dream trip to Greece or something like that,

and suddenly you've got protesters stepping over your towel. And we know that these just are not grassroots movements. This is being fueled by insanity, funded by lunatics like Soros and Gates and things behind the scenes. Every time you look at it, this doesn't come out of nowhere. It's just, it's horrendous,

turning people against people, making people your enemy, making the climate the reason you can be awful to other human beings. You know, I just want to state again, as always, Jeffrey. I grew up an environmentalist from Boulder, Colorado. I still believe I want clean water, I want clean air, I want clean food. And I think, and I just want to say this, I think early on a lot of environmentalists thought, well, this climate thing is kind of baloney, but it's getting people to start recycling. It's getting them to think about clean water and things like that. But now you start seeing the dangers of that. Once you allow a bad idea that is not backed in science to be a reason to do anything,

they just push more and more pressure on it, take away more and more of your rights. And by the way, if you want to know how small can a 15-minute city get, I would go ahead and recommend everybody revisit the movie Matrix this week. There's a tub of jelly waiting for you at the end of this with some plugs in it that both feed you and take your energy to feed the AI machine that's now running the world. I swear, sometimes it feels like that's the direction they want us all to land in.

And you hit on a great point, because there's a difference, there used to be a difference between environmentalism and conservation, and there's a big difference now, because one is an agenda-driven thing. Conserving natural resources is a good thing, cleaning up rivers, cleaning up pollution. That goes after these big polluters,

and that is something that environmentalism, used to be before this agenda came in and kind of sidetrack this and actually took a lot of the funding away from it. But we're seeing the tentacles spread out everywhere. So you see it in science. You see it literally in grassroots. It's not grassroots, as you pointed out, but on the streets with protests, the very kind of like Black Lives Matter, very similar to that. You see the slogans. Everyone's got a slogan. They're harassing people. But you see it illegally as well. So there's a lawsuit now, the first of its kind. This is associated press again, wrongful death lawsuits has big oil contributed to heat wave and women's death.

This is a complaint filed in Washington State Court accusing seven oil companies of being responsible for a 2021 heat wave that killed a woman. So, I mean, this is trying to connect those two ends. I guess they're going to try to do that in this lawsuit, but this will set a massive precedent if this happens. And a lot of these large companies would be on the hook for, I don't know, when it rains a little too much, or when an extra hurricane comes rushing through, I guess we can blame the companies for that because global warming. It's hard to see the logic here, but this is what's going on. This is the United States, too, mind you. This isn't something we're seeing over in Europe, but this is right here in Washington State.

Amazing reporting, Jeffrey. Of course, all this stuff is so nuanced, right? They've made it difficult to talk about. Well, don't you care about the earth? Don't you care about children? Yes, we do. We also care about freedom, and it's incredible the way that these tools are being used against us,

our empathy being used against us, you know. But amazing reporting. As always, Jeffrey, thank you for that great work. I'll see you next week. All right, huge development for ICANN actually this week. Some of those fights take longer than others. We've been three years of this fight in West Virginia. But one of the longest fights ever, in fact, the second lawsuit we ever filed was to reinstate the vaccine.

Like, why is the Vaccine Task Force? We start with a FOIA request. The Vaccine Task Force that was supposed to make vaccines safer. It was written to the 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act. that terrible law, but in it, they did have some provisions to make vaccine safer, but instead, as we proved through our lawsuits, they disbanded that vaccine, you know, safety group task force. And so now Robert Kennedy Jr. has just reinstated a vaccine safety task force. This is huge news. One of the big developments, he's really been putting his pedal to the medal

this last two weeks. HHS finally restores task force on safer childhood vaccines on the back of removing the childhood COVID vaccine, which we've talked about earlier, and pulling, you know, funding for, I think, $500 million worth of investment into looking at, you know, new MRNA technologies. So great stuff happening there. But this one, this is a big one for us. This was one of our early fights. And I want to talk to our attorney, Aaron Siri, who was at the forefront of that initial fight right now. Aaron, this is a huge development. Talk about a long time coming. We're talking about 2017 we were involved in this lawsuit against the government. Yeah, as you just pointed out, the 1986 Act has a section called the mandate for safe for childhood vaccines.

Okay. That one section of law in many ways underpins all a vaccine safety in this country. We've talked about this before on the show. But remind people that aren't aware of that. Like what does that mean? Like what is it underpin? What's at the center of that section? Sure. Well, when you look around, everybody who's watching the show,

look around your room. Look at every consumer product around you, okay? Whether it's a computer you're looking at right now or the TV, whether it's the car in your driveway, whether it's every material in the walls of your house, literally every consumer product around you. If the people, the company that make those products design it in a defective way, they could have made it safer,

they could have done it with ingredients that weren't going to be as harmful. you can sue them for doing that to make it a better product. It's called the design defect claim. It's the primary way you hold product manufacturers accountable. But leading up to 1986, when there were only three routines of vaccines in America, that's it, right? A child by the age of one back then got three injections, according to CDC scheduled today. We're at 29. Anyways, those three vaccines were causing so much harm.

And the manufacturers were all going out of business, you know, which reported there were six manufacturers of measles vaccine down to one. There were, I think, six around for pertussis down to one, three for the oral polio down to one. So there's one left for each. Now, when companies face that crossroads, what do you normally do? Your car is blown up. What do you do? Your plane's falling out of the sky. Your building materials are causing all kinds of harm for people, causing cancer. You make a better, safer product. That is what happens. The self-interest that companies have in making money, right? The economic self-interest drives them to make a safer product. Nobody needs to push them. No agency needs to force them. They automatically want to do it because

they don't want to lose money. And if they're really resistant, then they get a lawsuit. And then they do it. Fine. Congress, however, in its wisdom, decided, hey, you know what? Instead of making you bank a better, safer vaccine product, we're just going to do something unprecedented. We're going to give you immunity. We're going to make it so that every, child that you hurt, every child that you kill with your product, don't worry. They can't sue you for it. We're going to let you continue to sell your harmful product into the marketplace. And we'll just make it to the people who are armed. They can't see you. That is what the 1986 Act did. And it didn't just do it for those three vaccines back then. It did it for any

other vaccine that was created thereafter. And hence the explosion of what we see. Now, when Congress did that okay and i'm not giving credit a lot of credit to congress okay no slight any particular member of congress but in its collective wisdom it decided that well you know we've kind of mucked up the works here the companies they don't care about safety anymore in fact they have the opposite incentive right their incentive financially is to do as little safety before license that we know from clifled child yeah afterward so we're going to transfer all those safety responsibilities to who? To the federal government, to the federal health authorities, the Department of Health and Human Services. And how did they do that? How did they transfer those responsibilities?

They did it in a provision of law for the lawyers out there, 42 U.S.C. 3080-27, okay, called the mandate for safer childhood vaccines. It's three simple parts to it. Okay. And, you know, when Congress passes laws like that, a lot of times they'll put in, let's say, one page. So sometimes they'll put in a page and they'll say, okay, do this. And then there'll be like a thousand pages of regulations implementing it and hundreds of thousands of pages of reports and so forth going forth. You know, like when the, when the government said make, when there's a law that says to make drugs, you know, pure and safe, you know, there's a billion regulations about that. When it came to vaccines and the mandate for safe for child of vaccines, right? And you look at

that, there's actually pretty much no regulations. With, separately, most importantly, it's got three little parts. Part one, it's saying make the vaccines as safe as possible government, okay, because we screwed this whole system up. Companies aren't going to do it. So we're going to ask you, Secretary of HHS, make it a safe in every possible way. When you read it, it's literally every possible, you know, it's in the distribution, it's in the manufacturer, it's in the, you name it, it's every single aspect of it.

Part two is something called a task force. It creates a task force for safer childhood vaccines, which is comprised of the head of NIH, CDC and FDA, and the role of this task force is to make recommendations to the Secretary of HHS on how to make the vaccine safer in every possible way. And then Section 3 of the mandate for safer childhood vaccines is that there's supposed to be a report submitted to Congress by the Secretary of HHS every two years detailing how vaccines been made safer in the prior two years. And so at the very beginning, you know, I remember, you know, we sat down, pulled up this provision. I said, look, the place to start vaccine

safety is. Yeah. What are they done? Let's look at the biannual reports to begin with. Let's see. Let's read them. So our first lawsuit was section three there where we said, you know, how many meetings have they had with Congress the way they're supposed to and bringing forward all these new recommendations? And how did that, that boy had turned into a lawsuit and what do we discover? They've never once, as far as we can, certainly 100% never, ever submitted a report to Congress, ever by annually. And the best, the craziest part is, remember, we did that lawsuit. It's now been six years, I believe. And then we did a follow up after they had to concede in court in the embarrassing admission.

Yeah, we've never done it. Still today, they still didn't have done it because we did a follow up for a request few years later. And they had to admit again. Yeah, we've still never done. But they're at this point openly and blatantly not falling this law. Now, separately, we also had to end up suing them for the recommendations the task force. We said, fine. Maybe they just never submitted a report to Congress, but what were the recommendations on how to make

vaccine safer? Because these are the two easy. We can submit them now. If the task force has been doing the work, let's just submit it all right now. Well, let's see what those are. They're government documents subject to FOIA. We finally got an answer, and the answer was. the task force was disbanded. Well, there was one report, one instance of recommendations made in,

I believe it was 1998, and then we disbanded the task force. When you read the statute, it's clear, this is not meant to be a one-time task force. This is an ongoing task force forever. The immunity didn't last one time, right? Did the immunity end in 1998? Did all of the benefits the companies got end? Did the lack of market protections end? No. The task force was supposed to continue to do this, but it didn't. And so they had to make that embarrassing capitulation. And I'll end my long monologue by saying that, okay, when you look at the mandate for safer child of vaccines, submitting biannual reports to the Congress every two years, putting a report together, that's easy. Making recommendations, just writing stuff out, easy too. And if they're not doing the easy parts

of the mandate for safer child vaccines, do you really think that they were doing the hard part of the mandate section one which is actually doing the real hard work to make the vaccines make sure they're only safe vaccines come out and that they're as safe as possible and they continue to be staffed afterwards i think the i think the question answers itself so kennedy essentially though has put this task force back together he's now adhering to the mandate by the 86 act do you do we assume then that he's also then going to once they have some recommendations re you know get back to delivering these reports to Congress. Do we have any idea if he's had thoughts on that? I sure hope so. I suspect that I sure hope that's going to be. And I can tell you this much,

we'll be submitting to that task force on behalf of ICANN, a long list of recommendations. We have about almost 40 years of catch-up to do. So we'll be making a list of recommendations. Fantastic. Aaron, thank you for your time. Thanks for explaining this historic moment. And thank you for being at this so long, never giving up. It's that tenacity and that endurance that has made us so successful that I can. I just wanna thank you once again for all of your incredible legal work.

And good luck on that fight in West Virginia. I know that one is just heating up, money pouring in from all over. So we're gonna just keep telling our people we need help here, but you keep up, don't stop that fight. I think once West Virginia goes down, I think the nation starts to sweep

and the whole world starts looking. That's why I think that fight is getting so hard there. So keep up the great work. Thank you. We will do. All right. Take care. Look, it's clear that we never give up. We never give up. We stay at things, even if it takes getting, you know, one of our own Robert Kennedy Jr. all the way into HHS Secretary so we can solve a problem that we sued for all the way back in 2017, then that's what we're going to do. But we are fighting for our lives in 90 cases, as I can has 90 cases across this country, all fighting for medical freedom, especially religious freedom, which is at the heart of this. It's the heart of our constitutional rights,

which Amy Bond spoke about in California. That violation must be ended on all levels. We are fighting for that every day. And if you do not see the writing on the wall, they want to mandate SSRIs. They want to get this thing moving in the opposite direction. The wind is at our backs. We have got to claim all the territory. Lay our state. And now this is a perfect time for you to get involved with a $600,000 match that's available right now. Any dollar you give towards the legal fund, it will all go to the legal fund, and it will be matched. So $1, $2, $10 is $20, $100 or $200, $1,000 or $200,000, a thousand is $2,000. And $100,000, for those of you out there that have done really well in life,

get to put your name on change in the world. Get to say, I help swing West Virginia and get back. the religious exemption that made a difference in the historical conversation that is going on right now as we speak. We have never been stronger. The moment has never been more important. If not now, then when? Please don't wait any longer. Get involved. Help us out. Thank you for everyone that has been sponsoring all of our work since 2017. Victory today with Bobby Kennedy bringing back the Vaccine Task Force. All right. Well, as I said earlier, you know, confidence vaccines is clearly at an all-time low and they're digging their grave deeper and deeper.

They may have just killed pediatricians in the process. This is what it's looking like in the news, though. Childhood vaccination rate has dropped again as non-medical exemption spike. Recent data shows vaccination rates are falling in cases of various illness are climbing. A growing number of parents are opting out of childhood vaccines and health experts say it's already having consequences. The CDC says 4.1. 1% of kidn gardeners, about 138,000 kids had a vaccine exemption. That out does last year's record high of 3.7%. The CDC says exemptions increased in 40 states with 14 states having exemptions above 5%. Nearly all exemptions are listed as non-medical, meaning the children are

skipping vaccines for religious or other personal reasons. You can see the trend increase for exemptions during COVID years. Health officials want to reiterate that vaccines are safe. We've seen that since COVID. People are questioning the safety of vaccines. Vaccines have been studied for years and years and years. We want parents to understand that they're safe, that they're effective. And, you know, at the bottom line is just really to prevent disease. We want kids to be able to stay in school and be healthy. These rates are really disturbing. Well, he's the author of Vax. Facts. What to consider before vaccining at all ages and all stages of life. We've been tracking this guy's career over the last several years.

It's been a hell of a roller coaster ride. He joins me now. Dr. Paul Thomas, thank you so much for being in here today. Let's just start with these news headlines. I mean, they're just showing, like, the amount of people questioning vaccines is like this. They even admit it's all about COVID. Ever since COVID, we've just really lost our way. And now AAP decides that the best thing to do is let's just double down on COVID vaccine for infants and children. Am I right? Is this the death nail? I mean, you're no longer practicing as a pediatrician, but if you were, what would you do if the AAP is called the American Academy

Pediatrics, got that bold on a vaccine everyone has turned on? Dell, thanks for having me on this, by the way. The COVID, I like to call it a jab, not a vaccine. That thing is all negative, no positive. and for kids especially. I mean, the damage that vaccine, and there I go calling it a vaccine, the damage that shot does is astronomical

with zero benefit. The studies you've covered them on your show over and over again, it's overwhelming. We've had problems with vaccines for the last 20, 30 years. Yeah. But this takes it to a whole new level, right? So I'm ashamed of the AAP. I was a member, I was a member for 30 years.

So what is the AAP? I don't even know, like, because, I mean, you look, Robert Kennedy Jr. posts that basically they're funded by the pharmaceutical industry. You don't get your license from AAP, right? It's not a part of, like, the boards or anything. Nope. It's just like, hey, I'm a member of this vaccine shill group. That's correct, but I didn't know that.

So I was a member for so long because they do some good. Okay. Wait for it. We're all waiting. We're at the edge of our seats. Well, they appear to be advocating for kids. Okay. And so they have all these different committees, and some of it is, you know, to prevent human trafficking

and to prevent child abuse and, you know, advocating for car seats. And there's all sorts of things they will do that appear to be good. Okay. But where they declare for themselves what they truly are is on the vaccine issue. And I became aware of that 20 years ago. And I stayed involved with them just to be able to know as best as I could from the inside, what are they doing? And now, I don't think pediatricians realize

that they are completely bought and paid for by pharma and especially the vaccine companies. It used to be formula. The formula still supports them, but it's pharma, and it's mostly the vaccine. And they get massive amount. So there were the formula push. I mean, a lot of it was like, let's not make people

believe they have to breastfeed, let's not intimidate people. I mean, yes, breast is best, but then here, this is what you need. And so that was the initial part, which I was so against, I refused to ever go back to any of their conferences They were just bogus, non-science, garbage.

But now it became clear that vaccines is their pet baby. And they are basically a marketing arm, along with the CDC, for big pharma on the vaccine issue. When I first started touring the country with vaxed, you know, I would say pediatricians meanwhile, they're just misinformed. You know, I'm losing my empathy for this profession. because at this point, especially after what we went through in COVID, but at this point, there's so much science. I mean, you have to wear a blindfold to not see there are serious harms from this vaccine. Hepatitis B should be a massive question for anyone in infants.

Why does the mother need it, especially if she's hepatitis B negative. You know, you don't just have to find the high wear anymore. Any podcast you pop on, you know, whether it's Spotify or YouTube, everyone is talking about this stuff. Now you have to be, you know, purposefully ignorant. You've got to be turning a blind eye and then this. Now you just got it. You know, everyone's being told, newsletter. AAP is now stand behind pushing that COVID vaccine.

What do we do with doctors that just go, I guess I'm just going to have to suck this one up? I mean, do I have to cry for them when their careers are completely ended and everyone just walks right out of the pediatrician's office and finds a local chiropractor or, you know, homey. We're going to celebrate, Del. Oh, okay. And as a former pediatrician, my colleagues, well, they hate me anyway, because I shone a light on the problem.

Yeah. And the problem is the whole vaccine program. The CDC, as you've covered many times, has never done proper safety studies. And the safety, quote, safety studies they do, there's no placebo. They're short, sometimes days, like in the Hep B vaccine. They don't look at all health outcomes. They cherry pick a few outcomes that don't matter. and there's no long-term follow-up.

I probably missed a few of the main things. There's no safety studies. There's no study of the adjuvants. It doesn't have an aluminum study, a thimerosol study, a polyosorbate 80 study. And they've never studied the whole schedule. Foreign proteins and foreign proteins, kidneys of like hamsters and monkeys and aborted babies. Like literally DNA from aborted babies. What does that do in the human body?

No idea. Right. So we've watched, and I've watched, as a pediatrician busy in the trenches, I went from, you know, kids were pretty healthy 35 years ago to, you know, greater than 53%, I think, actually almost every kid who's vaccinated is harmed. You believe that now. I truly believe that. You just don't recognize the harm. So, you know, I was.

It could be latent and long-term issues and subtle auto-in disease, chronic things, right, that aren't recognized as connected to vaccines. So that was where my study came in, right? Yeah. Actually, the medical board was after-mom. Let's revisit that for anyone. that may be watching right now is brand new. Our audience is always growing. Of course, you had a pediat, you know, your clinic had, how many patients overall in the end did you end up treating children? Well, I had 10 to 15,000 active patients, which means they've been seen in the last year.

Okay. And by the time I had to retire, forced into retirement, I was less than 10,000. That's a long story. You take away someone's license and you lose your insurance contracts. Your population goes down. They have to go elsewhere. Well, you lost it because you did a study on your 15,000 active patients. Right. Right. Well, actually, the study was on every baby born into my practice. So not the whole practice.

I wanted a nice, clean sample. You start at birth, and then you look at the difference in all health outcomes, which they never study that. The CDC should, but they never do. Look at all health outcomes comparing vaccinated. And in my case, they were variably vaccinated, not CDC vaccinated, to completely unvaccinated and see the difference. and we published that study and within days of that study being published and I see it on your screen you're seeing the title of that study within days I lost my license I got a phone call from my attorney says Paul don't

go into the office don't call any patients don't write any prescriptions your license has been emergently suspended and I says why says well they had an emergency meeting and you are a threat to public health for doing science for saying hey I just I see a problem showing you the data right that's I have a very very large practice. I can show you the kids. I can show you all that data. And it's saying what it's saying and that makes me dangerous. Here's some of the data just so all of you can see it. I mean, look at this. You've got asthma. The red line is those that are vaccinated. The blue

line that are unvaccinated. Allergic rhinitis. I mean, they're all through the roof. Breathing issues. ADHD. Look at that. I mean, it's almost completely a vaccine injury. respiratory infections, ear pain, eye disorders, eczema, something that are poor kids. And by the way, eczema, my understanding is eczema used to be considered a vaccine injury, really. Like if they started getting a rash, it would be like, don't vaccinate. Yeah, you go back 40 years and 50 years ago, that's absolutely true. We have since been trained, pediatricians today are trained that eczema has nothing to do with vaccines. That's crazy.

And in fact, all these things that I have shown with statistical significance, in a very well done peer-reviewed study, that these are directly related, right? So we have three major categories of injury. We have the allergic, which is your eczema, your allergies, your asthma. We have neurodevelopment, so language, speech, behavior issues, autism, ADD, ADHD. There was no ADD or ADHD in the unvaxxed, zero. That's amazing. That's amazing, right?

And Del, I have to tell you, this is something that a lot of people probably don't know, and I don't know if I've ever told you this. I was at a major autism conference with over a thousand attendants, and there was a panel of expert, this was back in the early 2000s, and I asked the question. Actually, somebody else asked the question,

I just would go, wow. The question was, to this panel, and all eight of them went down and said the same thing. The question was, is ADD and ADHD just on the mild end of the autism spectrum? Right. And every single one of them said yes. Amazing.

So when you know now that it's, the United States, ADHD is probably one in six, one in ten, one in eight somewhere in there. Wow. And that's the mild end. It's basically we're doing something to our children that is messing with their brains. And how badly it messes with their brains and exactly where it messes with that, whether it's actual toxic effect, whether it's immune activation, whether it's just massive inflammation, and we now have documented so many mechanisms of how this happens and why it happens, it's just a matter of degree.

We are destroying our children's brains and their future. And vaccine is a big part of it. But the third category that was very clear in my data is infections. So we had increased ear infections, lung infections, sinus infections, eye infections, skin infections, GI infections, infections of all kinds combined. About 400 percent, three to 400 percent more. Four times the rate of overall just infections. In the vaccinated, and these weren't even CDC vaccinated.

These are lightly vaccinated. Lightly vaccinated compared to unveiling. God knows if they'd have had all the vaccines or just. So this night. And by the way, I just want to say, you know, I sit here and sometimes I think, well, people get it. And I, and I then remind myself at home, they're dealing with their kids' allergies. They're dealing with their kids' asthma. They know their kid is sick as all get out.

And they're wondering why. So it's not like, well, who's this happy to? I've never heard of such a thing. Everyone is sick. Their kids are all sick. They're sick. But they're being told by their pediatrician. the vaccines. And I do think pediatricians, you know, your statement that they're just horrible,

right? They're actually good people. They went into pediatric because they love children, but they are in a system that is keeping them blind. They are fed garbage, non-science, as if it was science. And they are shielded from the truth, the stuff that we are exposed. Well, what does they say? The road to hell is paved with good intentions. I think it's led by good soldiers and that's unfortunately what I think pediatricians are turning into now. Absolutely. But what the AAP has done now that we're talking about here, I mean, just in the last week or month, they've come out with a press release that they don't think anybody should get any exemptions in any state. Yep. Right. So in other words, we are

all in on mandates. Yeah. All authoritarian control of the vaccine program. So no parental rights, no rights to children. We're just going to slap them all in the vaccine. you, you have no, I mean, essentially you are owned by the government. They're your government's, you know, children, not yours. You get overruled. I mean, it's just a horrifying thought all the other. And that the AAP would back that? I'm sorry, pediatrician.

You've got to walk away from this organization. Right. I mean, instead of investing in a beautiful, colorful book, explaining how all the science is done, how the immune system works, why vaccines are effective, all the great studies we've done, links to those studies that people can read them themselves. Exactly. But that's what should have been done. That's why you're paying for a membership is, will you please sell what a great thing it is we're doing instead of just bringing in authoritarian control and saying, because we will it.

All right, look, I want to get to the fact that you have always been focusing on vaccines and now you're taking another step. You have decided that instead of, you know, proving through studies, which you've done, that vaccines are making children sicker, you are now suing the CDC for the vaccine program. Did I get that right? That's right. You are suing the CDC for the entire vaccine program. Right. So you know this, but a lot of viewers may not. The CDC vaccine schedule itself has never been tested for safety.

And they're supposed to. You just finished talking about how every two years they're supposed to report on this. They've never done it. So they took COVID off of Schedule A, right? Where it's mandated. And now when you remove it from mandates, first of all, liability goes back. Yep. If it wasn't covered by PrEP, which COVID has that little bit, it has that backup issue.

That backup issue. Okay. But all the other vaccines, that would be the case. Okay. So the lawsuit, our goal with this lawsuit, it's, I'm not seeking any money. This isn't about me. This is to protect our kids. Yep.

So the goal is, one, educate the public, but more importantly to put legal pressure on the CDC to do the right thing, to force them to take all the childhood vaccines, because none of them been properly tested for safety off of Schedule A. Yeah. That's just the first step. I mean, this isn't the lawsuit to solve all problems. Right. But imagine if we got all vaccines off of Schedule A. Right. No more mandates.

Yeah. End of that problem. Yeah. We already know that more and more parents aren't going to accept them anyway. Yeah. So I don't know what's going to happen to our society if they don't do that anyway. I don't know what's going to happen if our schools don't change their requirements for mandates. Nobody's going to go to school.

You know what's amazing about this and I've thought about it. It's though the AAP and those in government that have been shills for the pharmaceutical industry, as though parents, you know, want to have to go to the doctor and give them 72. I guess now it's 100 vaccines. And you're going to take away that visit where you inject my child. They scream bloody murder. They don't want to be there. It's the worst day of my life.

Wait a minute. There's going to be fewer of those. I'm protesting. There's got to be no protest on this is the point, right? Nobody wants this stuff. No one's going to complain about a shorter vaccine schedule or one that I don't have to do. Well, the thing is, Del, we're not telling you you can't get them. Right.

That we're just saying you can't be forced to get them. Yes. So that's how it should be anyway. Amen. My whole career has been about informed consent. It has to be the parents' choice. And I watched over my career how fewer and fewer parents wanted to do the vaccines once they had the information. Yeah.

I want to get to the point where fewer and fewer pediatricians will even carry the vaccines because they realize, oh, these are harmful products for every single vaccine. I'm going to say something controversial. I've said it a lot lately. For every single vaccine on the childhood schedule, you are more likely to die from the vaccine than you are from the disease that you're trying to protect. That's just a little piece of the puzzle. When you look at the chronic diseases that are produced by these vaccines in statistically

proven studies, my own being a big one, but mine was retracted so nobody can quote it. Yeah. It wasn't retracted because the data wasn't accurate. It was retracted on a silly technicality that was actually bogus. But there are other studies showing the same thing. Yeah. Everyone I've looked at, you know, essentially shows the same thing. And I've said this too.

I said this to a New York Times reporter just last week. I said, let's be clear. You know they've done the vaccinated versus unvaccinated study inside the CDC. You know that they've done it. And you know what? She made the point. She said, well, but you do have to admit this, it's difficult because of confounding issues, right? The confounding issues thing.

And I said to her, all right, I'm going to meet you right there. Yes, I recognize this as confounding issues. And for people out there, let me explain this to you. And this is what I said. I said, let me admit, because I don't vaccinate my child. I'm never going to tell you, by the way. I'm not telling you in the audience what to do. I'm just being honest.

My kids don't get vaccines. They also never drink tap water. There are no Doritos in our house. There's no Coca-Cola. There's no soda of any kind. We don't have processed sugars, any sort of processed foods. We eat organic vegetables. We're lucky.

We can afford that. You know, I hope everybody. I would love to see programs by the government that actually, you know, give you, you know, stamps to get organic food instead of OZEPIC, things like that. But the point being, I admitted to this New York Times reporter, I admit that all of those things. And by the way, none of my kids are I ever walked through an airport scanner, ever. I will get patted down. I'll get the free massage.

I'm not going to microwave me and my family. So many, many things we're doing are different than everyone else. So yes, it would be hard to control. Is it the airport scanner? Is it the non-fluidated water? Is it all the other things that the FDA, by the way, is said is safe that is making your kids healthier? And I said, but here's the point.

The only reason, Paul, they know there's confounding issues that make this difficult to study is because they've done the study. They've looked. They've looked. They've looked and said, oh, my God. No matter how we try to control in this. study, the vaccinated are clearly sicker than the unvaccinated. And this is what I said to this reporter. So here's what sucks. Here's what sucks. You keep reporting in your newspapers and all the

news keeps reporting those dirty, you know, dangerous, sickly, unvaccinated kids. And I just, I know, you know, deep down by what I just said, that the unvaccinated are healthier. Now, you may try to put in all the other categories of the things that we do, but here's the fact. You just want to poison our kids because you want it to be fair. You want them to be as sick as all the other kids so that you could even this playing field. That's where we're at. Yeah, that's one take on it. I mean, you lost me on that one.

Way down the road. Here's the point. They've done that study. Because if they've done the study and it proved that just very easily, we just compared all of our vaccinated kids in our database to all of our kids, to all of our unvaccinated kids and the vaccine have less cancer. They have less ADHD. They have less autism.

They have less cancer. They have less lupus. They have less, you know, asthma. They have less, you know, infections. They get less infections. If they could say that, they would have. And by the way, Robert Kennedy Jr. would not be HHS Secretary today if they'd ever been able to show us that study.

And I would not have this show with millions of people watching if they could show us a study that showed the vaccinated or healthier than the unvaccinated. But they can't. They can't because they aren't. And we've shown it. our study and several others have done the same, and it's time for the CDC to step up to the plate. And until that happens, no mandates. Let's move all the vaccines to schedule B at least, so it's a decision that parents can make. I actually don't like the wording of, what is it, joint

custody? No, for the, joint decision making. Joint decision making. It's better than mandates. Right. Joint decision making between you and your doctor that's trained by a pharmaceutical funded university. There's the problem with it. So I have a son who has a young child. And his wife really wants vaccines. So if she were to go into the office with my grandson, they're going to get a vaccine because the joint decision making is with a pediatrician who drank the Kool-Aid who doesn't understand what we're talking about. Yeah. So pediatricians need to wake up. Yep.

You need to fire your affiliation, sever it completely with the AAP. They need to become a non-factor in pediatrics or we are losing the profession. I'm afraid it might be too late. I really feel that. I mean, because you're right. Well, because just like you, any, you know, unless they do it in mass, call each other. We are protesting all together. And they're going to have to pull the license of tens of thousands of us all at one time.

Because it's, you know, it's like you. You go out on your own. You write books about truth. You do studies. And you end up putting it all in line. I'm glad you did. I love this. You know, I don't know if this lawsuit can win.

I'll have to have Aaron look at it. But I love the idea of it because it starts the conversation. Wait, somebody is suing the entire vaccine program because it's never been tested. It hasn't been tested. It hasn't. And it should be illegal. Right. And I hope you win this.

And we are certainly going to bring all the attention to this because it is time that untested products are no longer mandated into our children. It's just those days are over. I agree. Thank you so much for incredible work. Stick around for author of record. We'll get into some personal conversations right after the show. If you don't have this book or you have a friend that really needs to understand what's happening here, They're starting to falter.

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