The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 440: THE TIPPING POINT

Episode Date: September 6, 2025

Today on ‘The HighWire:’ It’s one of our most groundbreaking projects yet — ‘An Inconvenient Study: The Cause of America’s Chronic Disease Epidemic.’ This eye-opening documentary from ICAN Films and Del Bigtree Productions promises to shake the foundations of public health as we know it. Next, Jefferey Jaxen unpacks a historic moment for informed consent, as industry orthodoxy fights Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s push to reform our failed public health complex. Finally, psychiatrist and author Dr. Stefani Reinhold joins Del to examine the dark side of SSRIs and what’s really driving today’s youth mental health crisis.Guest: Dr. Stefani ReinholdBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Yeah. Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it is time for us all to step out onto the high wire. I'm not sure if you felt it. I don't know if you felt it this morning. There was a light rumble is what it seemed like to me, or, or, maybe it was the sound of the universe tearing wide open.

But what I'm telling you is right now, today, I believe we are marking a tipping point, a tipping point in the change in the world as we know it, especially when it comes to the pharmaceutical control of the world that we live in. Of course, a lot of this revolves around a powerful Senate hearing today with Robert Kennedy Jr. I have to say if you were watching, if you were tuned in the highwire, if you're signed up to be one of the people on our mailing list, you would have been told you could be watching this live this morning. To say sparks were flying would be an understatement. To say that there were forest fires, there were earthquakes. These are the moments that many of us have dreamed about for a very long time.

To watch Robert Kennedy Jr., not trying to get a job, but standing firmly in a job of removing all of the corporate controls inside of our regulatory agencies, dissolving all the political controls that are taking place and getting back to science. Standing his ground and telling the truth for the first time, it was epic, it was unbelievable. But there was one moment that for many probably went unmist. I mean, it went, you know, unnoticed.

And ICAN actually has ventured into maybe one of the most ambitious projects we've ever taken on. This is a project that is literally almost a decade in the making. Let me point out that moment, and then we'll talk a little bit more about it. This is Senator Ron Johnson in the hearing this morning with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. We're going to be holding a hearing next Tuesday on a study done by a high integrity health care facility that shows that actually looked at vaccinated versus unvaccinated, very high quality study. I'm not going to steal the thunder of Aaron Seer who's going to be testifying on this. I think you're aware of this study that shows the vaccinated population far more prone to chronic illness than people

completely unexposed to vaccines. That is just one example of how science has been corrupted by, by the way, the study was conducted, and when they conducted, oh, no, no matter what the results are we're going to release this. It is yet to be released. We're going to enter that in the record on Tuesday. Well, Senator Ron Johnson is talking about a vaccinated versus unvaccinated study. This is a conversation that has been a part of the medical freedom movement, a dream, if you will, for decades. Now, of course, there's been small independent studies. You can talk about the Mosson study or the Thomas studies, but oftentimes they're too small. It's just a homeschool group. And the argument is, well, Dr. Paul Thomas was already not vaccinated kids.

He had a bias. Well, I knew all of this when I ventured out on a tour with the documentary Vaxed, which put me in the middle of this entire conversation and changed my career forever. And as we were touring the nation in a bus that had vaxed written on the side of it, people were writing the names of their vaccine injured children, I started recognizing that though this film was, only about the MMR vaccine and autism. Everywhere we went, parents were lining up to tell their own stories of vaccine injury. It wasn't just autism. And it wasn't just the MMR vaccine. It was every single vaccine on the CDC's recommended schedule.

And it wasn't just the autism. It was death after vaccines. It was paralysis after vaccines. It was rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, lupus, multiple. sclerosis, Guillaume Barre's syndrome, you name it. Every single vaccine was being implicated by thousands and thousands of people. It was a tour that some say, in a film that some say ignited the medical freedom movement. Well, while I was on that tour, someone introduced me to the head of infectious disease at one of the most prestigious medical institutions in the world.

They decided to have dinner with me, mostly to try and prove that I was wrong or to discuss what Vax was all about. They'd watched the film. They found it compelling. But in that conversation, I said, look, if you want to prove me wrong, if you want to prove everyone that ever has this conversation wrong, or every parent that is claiming that their child has been injured by a vaccine, that that injury, that that lifelong chronic illness that they're dealing with, If you want to prove it's not vaccines, there's really only one way you can do that. You have got to do a fully powered vaccinated versus completely unvaccinated study. Compare those two groups of children and their health outcomes.

We've asked for it for decades. We've never seen it from a major medical institution or small independent studies. Well, guess what? This was in 2016, that scientist said, I'll do that study. I believe you're wrong. Well, it took years of continuing that relationship. I even got Aaron involved, and we went out and had dinner. And we said, look, you said you would do this study.

If you believe in the vaccine program, you have one of the most robust, you know, collection systems there is. You have your own medical system with your own insurance. you've tracked thousands and thousands, not hundreds of thousands of children in their lives, just compare these two groups of children. He did that study, and the results were ready in 2020. But they were not what he expected. In fact, the results were so horrifying and so incredibly damning, he was concerned it would destroy the vaccine program after the world ever saw.

it. And he buried it, locked it away, and hid it. And for years, we've been trying to figure out how do we get this out to the public. And we've been wondering, will Robert Kennedy Jr. be able to do a study just like this in time? We see the pressure that he's under. Well, Senator Ron Johnson came up with a solution. And that solution is going to appear in the hearing that he's talking about on Tuesday. And Aaron Siri will be testifying about this very study, and we are going to premiere the trailer for the movie about this study and what it took to make it happen. And the movie is called an inconvenient study, the cause of America's chronic disease epidemic exposed. The premiere of the trailer will be at the Senate hearing on Tuesday.

We'll be streaming it live here on the Highwire, and the film will release on October 3rd. If you want to be a part of that, if you want to be invited to the screen, if you want to see all of the developments as we're putting this all together, literally starting to put this plane together as it's taking off and flying, I am telling you, this is going to be the game changer of game changers. Never before has a completely pro-vaccine institution of pro-vaccine scientists set out to compare two groups of children. to prove that we were wrong and accomplish the exact opposite. You are not going to believe what they found. It's so scary. They're afraid of it, and now we're going to do something about it. I want to thank Senator Ron Johnson for being a part of this world-changing moment.

If you want to sign up, definitely go to the website. All you have to do is type in an inconvenience study.com. Sign up to get all of the breaking information, the trailer, as soon as it's drops and then of course any discussions about premieres and how we're going to release this. I can tell you we could use funding help right now to make this as big as impactful and probably more so than Vaxed ever could be. This time our detractors have done the study and they have been caught and let me put, you know, just put it very subtly, earmuffs for everyone at home on your children that

are watching this right now. I'm telling you the shit is about to take. hit the fan. All right. We're pretty excited about everything that's going on. The hearing with Robert Kennedy Jr. was astounding. Jeffrey Jackson is going to cover that. In fact, why don't we let him get to it right now? It's time for the Jackson Report. I mean, it feels like Christmas today watching this hearing. I mean, we've dreamed of having someone like Robert Kennedy Jr. just lay out the amount of bologna that's gone on in our vaccine program, pushing drugs and things on children, transparency in science, transparency in government, all of it going on.

On the same day that, you know, we were shocked when Senator Johnson told us, I'm going to bring up the study today in the hearing, so we raised together to get this website going. We thought we had a little time. We thought we had till Tuesday. But very exciting things are afoot, Jeffrey. You know, it's incredible to be in the driver's seat right now, as I believe the medical freedom movement is. We are the ones that are now driving all that is taking place in the world of health and medicine.

We're living through historic moments in this country right now as we speak. And ultimately, Robert Kennedy Jr. was installed into HHS, the most powerful health agency in the country by We the People. Kennedy is now in a battle for the health of this nation. It's gone hot, if you will. And why did it happen? People, this whole entire week, people can't open their computers or log on to their phone, social media, without seeing a negative headline about Kennedy. What happened? Well, here's a couple of suggestions what happened over the last couple weeks to lead to this point we're in right now.

Here's a headline. I'm going to go through just a couple. The American Medical Association and other medical associations are kicked out of CDC vaccine work groups. That's the AMA. That's the American Academy of Pediatrics, others. Then this ASIP committee has listed its terms of reference. This is what it's going to study. This is its operation, its direction moving forward when it comes to the COVID vaccine.

And here's 13 points that's going to look at. I'm not going to read all of these, but just a couple. Review existing published and unpublished research, clinical knowledge related to the safety and effectiveness of the COVID shot, assess the risk-benefit balance for the administration of the COVID shot with other vaccines. Remember, the previous CDC administration said, just put it. them in different arms. They're a science for you. Then they're going to look at the biodistribution, the persistence of the spike protein, lipid nanoparticles, DNA contamination, all the stuff that we've been breaking here on the high wire since the pandemic began. Even in pregnant women, it's going to look

at the safety of this shot. This will rewrite, Dell, as you and I know, having sifted through this data and presented it week by week since this pandemic began, once this stone is overturned, that COVID shot's going to fly off the market faster than you can say adverse. event. And remember, the ASIP committee is meeting in two weeks. We can only predict there's going to be massive fireworks here. We have a new lean ASIP committee with its members. We have the work groups out of there. So we have AMA, the American Academy Pediatrics. They're no longer in these work groups. What's set policy for vaccines. So they're basically the same as you and I were when we'd go sit at these meetings. They're at the level of the public. Let's see how they like it.

Let's go through some more headlines that may have kicked off this firestorm we're living in right now. HHS revives long dormant childhood vaccine safety task force. For some reason, it was pulled offline in 1989 as if we guess we didn't have to worry about safety of childhood vaccines anymore. This vaccine safety group now is going to look at all the childhood vaccines, going to look at the reporting systems that are broken and find out how, if we can make these safer, How do we get accurate reporting? It's going to be led by NIH's J. Bad Charya.

It's going to be staffed by senior CDC, FDA, NIH staff. So this is a massive, that alone is a massive storyline. Let's keep going. Kennedy, as you know, promised September the month we're in right now, an announcement on autism, the causes and interventions on maybe how to stop them. Remember, the previous decades of administrations that said, genetics, it's your problem. Something's wrong with you. That's why your kids have autism. That's what was given to the public. Now we're going to get some answers. We're going to get the

start of a public conversation. And then finally, RFK Jr. announces repeal of policy that rewarded hospitals for reporting staff vaccination rates. They're getting money to have vaccinated staff. And for all of this, how is he treated? Take a look. All right. More drama this morning at the CDC. Turmoil and controversy at the agency in charge of protecting the American public's health. Nine former heads of the CDC slamming Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. in a blistering New York Times op-ed. The Senate's Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer, called on the White House today to fire RFK Jr., saying he is going to put lives at risk.

Four top leaders resigning in protest. Last week, staffers cheered outside CDC headquarters in support. You have former CDC officials basically saying, ignore CDC guidance at this point. Is there any No, I mean, he broke the CDC. I don't think it's hyperbolic to say that. They will say that themselves. We have a Secretary of Health and Human Services who is a virulent anti-vaccine activist and science denials. RFK Jr. doesn't know what science is.

And when he says that he wants this common sense, it's actually a nonsense vision he has for infectious disease control in CDC. We are moving away from science and data and evidence and towards something that are much more troubling and unscientific. unscientific. For decades, Kennedy has made it very clear what his goal is. He wants to pull vaccines off the market. He wants to make it harder for us as Americans to access them.

Nothing is going to stop them. And I fear we may not have yet hit the bottom. Yeah, it's kind of what we expected when he took that job. And notice, too, for the audience, when he, the last six months, Kennedy's been at the helm. And there's been a lot of change happening. There's been some historic changes in the ultra-processed food system here in the United States, Companies are removing dyes. They're removing toxic chemicals from our food system.

The food pyramid is being rewritten. No problem. Obviously for the activists there, they worked hard for this. They've worked for many years, but industry said, no problem. We're actually going to help you. There's going to be new product lines, healthier product lines. They fell in line. Their stockholders wanted it.

Everybody wanted it. No problems. But the second Kennedy started to touch one of the most powerful industries in the world, the vaccine industry, the pharmaceutical industry. Now we have problems. Now we have a concerted effort to get him to do. him to resign. And it started last week with the firing of Susan Monterez. She was the CDC director appointed for four weeks. She was booted along with others. They walked out and that started this new

cycle, this attack. August 30th, New York Times, Bernie Sanders writes an op-ed. Kennedy must resign. Remember, no problems for the last six months. Now he must resign. We have Robert Malone, who's no stranger to hit pieces. He did a quick look across the media and said, this is interesting. Here's four pages of hit pieces on Kennedy. These are all the articles, all the journalists. Think about this. Hundreds of journalists just woke up one day and said, you know what? I think Kennedy must resign.

They all came to the same conclusion, right? That's what we're supposed to think? Probably not. So we followed the New York Times. It's almost like the media is funded by pharma. It's really strange. And so, and one of the pinnacle media outlets where if you want to see a narrative as it forms, leading a narrative, sometimes untrue. In this case, I believe

untrue New York Times. So New York Times went with an op-ed from Bernie Sanders. Then they went for an op-ed from former CDC directors, nine of them. Kennedy is endangering every American's health. So trust us, the ultimate appeal to authority, those who presided over the chronic health illness in America. Those rely to us all during COVID. Let's definitely take their word for it. Exactly. I don't know. That appeal to authority falls flat. So this pylon comes out of nowhere, and much of the public and I would say Kennedy's colleagues in government are standing by his side and it looks like this. Okay. The woke world has exploded with the firing of the former CDC director Susan Menares.

The CDC has humiliated itself. It has lost the trust of at least half of the country. CDC has been a disaster. Folks that we saw in the mass resignings that just took place were obstruction. They wouldn't give it to us. They gave us a subset. They play games. We need an extremely strong leader at the CDC, and that's what Secretary Kennedy believes in. The President and Secretary Kennedy are committed to restoring trust and transparency and credibility to the CDC by ensuring their leadership and their decisions are more public-facing, more accountable, strengthening our public health system. Secretary Kennedy, one of the world's foremost voices, advocates and experts on public health is working hard to restore. the credibility and the integrity of CDC as a scientific organization committed to the scientific method and getting to the root cross costs of the public health epidemic in this country. It's time to rebuild public trust, and the way we do that as health care leaders is to show

some humility and to invite a civil discourse. And that's what we're seeing right now as part of the new leadership strategy in this administration. So there you have a united front. And as you know, Kennedy's no stranger to hit pieces over the last decade. he's been the source of many of them, as we have here at the Highwire. But now he has the government backing him because these are non-starter arguments to go against someone trying to fix the chronic disease epidemic, to go against someone who's trying to find the cause of autism when we're never given anything. So it's interesting to watch this.

And a lot of people looked at Marty Macri, they're the head of FDA and said, you know, before he starts Dolan Advice, maybe you should clean up his own backyard. Well, he's doing that too at the same time. Here's the headline at Fox Times. FDA removes first vaccine advisors. Who are they amongst them? Dr. Paul Offutt is among those who are no longer members of the panel. So that's right.

The Verbat Committee that we've reported on. We've watched the live streams during COVID rubber stamping booster after booster for children and infants in perpetuity. They can no longer participate in this advisory committee work. Kennedy goes to Wall Street Journal. He writes his own op-ed to counter the New York Times. were restoring public trust in CDC. Strong words, he says, over the decades, bureaucratic inertia, politicized science, and mission grief have corroded that purpose and squander public trust.

This failure was no anomaly for years. The CDC has presided over rising crime disease, a true modern pandemic, and since 2014, declining life expectancy. Trust has collapsed. The American people no longer believe the CDC has their best interests at heart. We've already taken steps to eliminate conflicts of interest in bureaucratic complacency. We have shaken up the advisory committee on immunization practices. We have replaced leaders who is a resistive form. The American people elected President Trump, not entrenched bureaucrats to set health policy. And you see the White House backing up that article by posting it out on X and supporting Kennedy. There is, again, a united front within government for his mission, the mission that the American people installed both him and Trump

in there to do. And even President Trump had a moment of clarity. We've been watching him on the campaign trail throughout the last four years as well, talk about how great operation was, we're going to Warpspeat was. And this was a post on truth social he posted just days ago. He says it's very important that drug companies justify the success of their various COVID drugs. And he basically says, I want an answer. He says, Pfizer has been really telling me that they show me these great numbers and results, but they don't seem to be showing them to many others. So he's asking him Pfizer to show it to the public. And he says, Operation Warp Speed was brilliant as many, say it is, but if it's not, he wants to know why. And that is the President of the United States.

So we see all the way up to the head of this country, people are holding pharmaceutical companies accountable for the products, and maybe the damage their products do. But it also is going on. I think that post is very interesting, too. You know, I've been asked by the media about the relationship between Robert Kennedy Jr. and President Trump. I sort of stood in the entourage working with Bobby during his campaign in moments where he was interacting with Trump. They have a very special relationship. But we've all had this question, right? When it comes, you know, we know that President Trump has talked about the belief that vaccines may be associated with vaccines.

He's been very open about that since the very first day he ran for president ever. But the question was if he was celebrating the war of speed vaccine, what was going to happen with this COVID vaccine if it started, you know, coming on, you know, into the crosshairs of Robert Kennedy Jr. I think what's interesting is, and we saw him, you know, on the campaign trail, celebrating, you know, the COVID vaccine, the fact that he created and getting booed during, you know, his last campaign and sort of dropping that talking point because it wasn't working for him. I think here may very well be the first time we have seen, can I say, like this level of possible humility or at least a question. I know that President Trump stands by decisions he's made. I don't think there's any question that, you know, he did what a president should do, funded every possibility. I think one of the things that gets lost in this conversation was he didn't just, you know,

fund more money into the development of vaccines than any president has in history in a pandemic. He also funded a search for other drugs like hydroxychloroquine, which he celebrated. He didn't just find it. He took it himself. show that it was safe using his own body. And also, I think most importantly, never mandated the vaccine when it was created. That was not, you know, part of the plan. I don't believe was ever going to be a part of the plan. He's been clear he believes in choice. So really, this was a president that gave everybody what they wanted. You believe in vaccines? I'm going to fund one to get here

faster than any. Now, the media and everyone after that, did they misrepresent its efficacy? Yes, they did. Did they misrepresented safety? Absolutely. You know, was, you know, did President Biden mandate and take away our right to choice away? Yes, he did. But when you see this tweet, what you're seeing, I believe, is the first time we've seen Donald Trump saying, you know what, I am open to this product that I was a part of being criticized.

But I want it out in public. I want to see every perspective. I want to see those that are saying it's great, why it's great. those that are saying it's not why it's not. You know, this should have happened during COVID. It should have happened with the school closings. I want to put Jay Batichari and everybody that's talking to me out in front of the public. I think that now he's learning how you do this.

I'm not just going to sit behind closed doors and listen to people's opinions. I want the world to hear the opinions I'm hearing. I want them to challenge each other. I think, you know, I hope he really sort of takes that to heart and says, I'm going to start putting these debates in front of the public. I think it would be really great for us all to see it. But we are seeing him entertain the possibility that maybe the warp speed vaccine, though it was brilliant in execution and speed,

did it end up being the great new salvation technology that we were hoping for? Obviously, if you've been watching the high wire, we are clear it is not. It is not. This is a, you know, a horrific technology. We've had many scientists and doctors, but the clearest, I think, has been put, was by Breed, Weinstein when he came on and said, look, this is inserting a foreign protein into your heart, into your organs, into your muscles. That is never going to be good. Doesn't matter if it's just

a spike protein. Any foreign protein is going to incite your heart to have an immune reaction, which you don't want to have happened. You don't want scarring on your heart. That's just the beginning of all the issues that you've just laid out are now going to be under investigation by the new ASIP. But boy, Jeffrey, holy. cow, change is now fully upon us. The most powerful representative in the world, President Trump is saying, I am gonna entertain this debate,

we are going to do the science and look at this. It's really, really spectacular. And that's the accurate portrayal of what's going on. The media, corporate media, and several politicians are using that as an attack point to create division between Kennedy and Trump saying, do you believe in Warp Speed with a success or not? And the rollout, the play,

public-private partnership, the effort to mobilize was a success, as Kennedy would say, or Trump would say. Product he chose, not so much. And the administration they handed it off to, who mandated it and sent to anybody that brought up any kind of issues. There was a problem there. But now it's not just Trump. It's not just Kennedy. It's not just at these D.C. level politicians that this changed and this fight is happening. It's been going into the states. And we've seen this with a lot of this health conversation. The vaccines are no different. And sometimes, times at this inflection point, someone comes and says something that perfectly encapsulates the moment we're in. And that was Dr. Joe Lodipo, Surgeon General of Florida. Take a look.

What I'm most excited about is an announcement that we're going to make that we're making now, which is that the Florida Department of Health, in partnership with the governor, is going to be working to end all vaccine mandates in Florida law. All of them. Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery. Okay. Who am I as a government or anyone else or who am I is a man standing here now to tell you what you should put in your body? Who am I to tell you to tell you what your child should put in your body. I don't have that right. Your body,

your body is a gift from God. What you put into your body, what you put into your body is because of your relationship with your body and your God. I don't have that right. Government does not have that right. They want you to believe they have that right.

And unfortunately, they've been successful. They've been successful. What a week we are having. Amazing. And if you see the media report on what he said, they'll say he's dangerous. He's going to cause outbreaks. This is just one man. He doesn't represent the will of the people in that state.

Well, here is governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis. Take a listen. Okay. Governor of the left Democrats, public health advocates, many of them are going absolutely crazy over this. My question to you is why now, why lift any mandate beyond just the COVID mandate? Well, first, you know, we believe in informed consent and we believe in parental rights. Those have been core principles that we've operated on both during COVID and after COVID. Now, what the Surgeon General pointed out today is there are actually some mandates in Florida regulatory that never even made it into statute through his agency long before I was governor, long before he was Surgeon General.

So he has the ability to peel those back. He also has the ability, which he's doing, to expand the religious objection to include moral and ethical concerns about it. And so we feel that's empowering people to make the right decisions for themselves and for their families. and as a parent, you shouldn't be penalized right now in this country. You go in for a surgery. Some places won't see you if you haven't had the COVID shot or certain immunizations. Some pediatricians discriminate based on whether you've done hepatitis B or not. And that's not informed consent.

When there are coercive impacts, when they're trying to coerce choices and there's negative impacts, then that undermines your ability to choose. So I think it's typical. Everything we did during COVID, they screen bloody murder on all of it. The reality is, is we've always been for informed consent and we've always been for parental rights. I just want to remind everybody, our nonprofit was named informed consent action network for a reason. This was, you know, something we all sat and really thought about what is it we want to bring to the world? What do we want to achieve? We want to bring back informed consent so that every free, citizen in America and the world has the right to choose what goes into their body. It has been

stated brilliantly by the Surgeon General Joe Lattapo and now by Governor Ron DeSantis. Watching this, it's like a dream. Can you imagine anything like this happening in the news just, you know, eight or nine years ago? We are moving light years ahead now. The pharmaceutical industry obviously is on complete full-throated attack with every single media organization they fund. We believe in informed consent and parental rights, period, says Bonda Santas. Not but, but, you know, his outbreak or whatever. Why aren't, we have to ask ourselves as a nation, why aren't all our governors speaking like this? And so we wake up this morning, Del, we're preparing for the show, and there is a hearing in the Senate Finance Committee and Kennedy is smack dab in the middle

of that. And I want to just bring a couple highlights in here to show how this man, who the American people put in, held his own. Take a look. All right. This morning, I got the latest numbers from CDC that 76.4% of Americans now have a chronic disease. This is stunning. When Lyonka was president, It was 11%. 1950. It was 3%. They had 76.4%. 85, 8 out of 10 of our kids

cannot qualify for military service. We are the sickest country in the world. That's why we have to fire people at CDC. They did not do their job. This was their job to keep us healthy. Thank you. And I need to fire some of those people to make sure this doesn't happen again.

You tell the head of the CDC? that if she refused to sign off on your changes to the childhood vaccine schedule, that she had to resign. No, I told her that she had to resign because I asked her, are you a trustworthy person? And she said no. So if you had an employee who told you they weren't trustworthy, would you ask them to resign, Senator? The American Academy of Pediatrics has warned that the committee is being done. politicized at the expense of children's health. American Academy of Pediatrics, you think they're lying to?

I think the American Academy of Pediatrics is gravely conflicted. They get their biggest contributors are the four largest vaccine makers. They run a journal Pediatrics, which they make a lot of money on, that is completely dependent on pharmaceutical companies. So I don't think, I wouldn't put a big, stake in what they say that benefits pharmaceutical interest. Senator, I didn't politicize it, but I depoliticize it. Congress has been investigating that committee for 23 years

because it is pervaded with conflicts of interest. What we did is we got rid of the conflicts of interest when we depoliticized it and put great scientists on it. Are you aware that another one of these new members, Dr. Levy wrote that, quote, evidence is mounting and indisputable that MRNA vaccines cause serious harm, including death, especially among young people. Yes or no? Are you aware that he said that? I wasn't aware he said it, but I think I agree with it. I don't get letters from thousands of people who are not political saying that this set of changes is going to damage American health care and particularly these health. health care agencies for decades to come. I don't get any letters.

You know, and this is going to make a big difference forever. Maybe you're listening to a selective group of people. You get me. Yeah, and I will. Fine. I will tell you what, Senator. I will put my mailbag against your mailbag any day of the week. Senator, you've sat in that chair for how long, 20, 25 years,

while the chronic disease and our children went up to 76%. And you said nothing. You never asked the question why it's happening. Why is this happening? Today, for the first time in 20 years, we learned that infant mortality has increased in our country. It's not because I came in here. It's because of what happened during the Biden administration that we're going to end.

Oh, my God, that felt so good. Bobby, yes, yes, yes. Bravo. Bravo. My God, has that been a long time coming. cheese these shills, who can take it, funded by pharma, spewing nothing but pure baloney. I know, you know, look, my heart goes out to them. They do not know what they are doing.

They have no science they're referring to. It's not their fault they've been lied to. They're assuming that these academies, the pediatric academy, and the AMA and the CDC and the FDA have certainly done the mountains of evidence and studies that they've promised, but they have not. It was like needles in your eyes to watch these attacks. But, you know, finally, just to watch someone like Robert Kennedy Jr., you could just feel the trial attorney in him, just laying it out and calling it as he was. He was not, you know, timid in any way.

It was really, truly, I think one of the most spectacular and entertaining hearings we've ever had the United States of America. Great, great job, Bobby. And I think the American public, if I can say, probably. cease through a lot of these attacks. They're thinly veiled. They're very transparent. And one of the big questions, or I should say,

one of the pieces of data that was dropped in there, apparently Kennedy said this morning, he received these numbers from the CDC. 76.4% of Americans have at least one chronic disease. This is massive. And so this is how that senators who presided over that chronic disease increase should have been spoken to for the last 20 years or so.

So, Del, you mentioned, I can, the informed consent action network, was started with the idea to end manmade disease. We're basically our legal team has been America's watchdog. We've been the most successful health legal team in America and during the pandemic, certainly, perhaps in the world. And that involves also spotlighting toxic environmental causes. And I want to switch now with that thought in mind to something that we don't really think about put together.

And that is windmills, that's solar panels. people think about this, they think about we're saving the environment. But remember, there's conservationism and there's environmentalism. Big, big difference between the two. And so we go to the UK, Plymouth Maine Laboratories. This is one of the world leaders in the field of marine research. They just published a study showing offshore wind farms could cause significant ecosystem, economic, and human health risks. So these wind farms, a lot of the windmills are put in water. They're put in the ocean and a study found that they use these materials to protect these windmills from corrosion, but those materials leach into the surrounding water, ocean, marine life. And here's what the study

found. The study published, it's in nature's ocean sustainability, estimated annual inputs of metals from current European wind farms to be 3,219 tons of aluminum, 1,148 tons of zinc, 1.9 tons of indium. And we says here in the article, for This already exceeds the sum of all known direct inputs and river discharges into the North Atlantic from key European countries, locating seaweed and shellfish farms in close proximity to offshore wind farms. Like the world's first co-located commercial scale, seaweed farm in the North Sea, could see metals from turbines build up in the species, leading to concentrations that could exceed safe limits for human consumption.

Under current government expansion plans, these inputs could increase 12-fold by 2050, which raises serious concerns about the potential accumulation of metals in marine species like oysters, mussels, seaweed, which are also likely to be cultured near wind farms. And remember, the United Kingdom and the European Union are far ahead in the United States. They built out this net zero energy grid way before us, and they built it out very aggressively. So you see the wind farms and the solar panels are already put out there. In fact, last year in the telegraph, this is what was reported in Britain, because British farmers are having a massively hard time just continuing their livelihood.

And Miliban comes by Britain's farmers brace for Miliband's solar shock. They're going to pave farmland with solar panels. And then the whole idea, the whole purpose of this, obviously was to help the environment to get to net zero, but it was also supposed to lower energy bills when they built out this alternative energy grid. Well, here's the current headlines. This is the telegraph. Again, wind farms to blame for raising energy bills says offgen. the UK's government energy regulator.

Here's another one, pensioner fury as energy bills soar to pay for wind farms. Big issues here. So it's a big rugpole. The whole thing, this unreliable power. Whoops, sorry, you're going to have to pay more because we put up this unreliable wind farms. So here in the United States, the Trump administration is putting the brakes on this to look at the science deeper. And this is what happened.

Just recently, Trump administration Nix's giant wind farm approved last minute by Biden team. Remember last minute Biden approvals, there's a lot of controversy around that auto pen, who's really approving these. Yeah. But this is the Department of the Interior and we go to their press release and it says under President Trump, the Department of Interior will no longer provide preferential treatment towards unreliable intermittent power sources that harm rural communities, livelihoods, and the land, such as the Lava Ridge Wind Project, that's in Idaho. And the radical green new scam goes on to talk about burdening nations, our nation and public lands. But we go,

it talks about sustain subsidies. The government subsidies built out this net zero energy grid. It wasn't on the merits of this technology. It wasn't because it was so great it was going to replace it. It was government, massive government subsidies. How much? Well, I want to go to this chart here. It was written by Dr. Matthew Willicki, and it shows this chart,

federal subsidies per unit of electricity generated for basically nine years. You can see solar there, $82.42 U.S. dollars per unit of electricity generated. wind next in line 18.86. Then you go down to the bottom. Coal, hydropower, oil and gas, the once dominant energies in the United States here, not even 1%. Less than that. 0.73. So you're seeing the subsidizing of an industry and the phasing out of another industry by the government. Well, that's not happening anymore in the United States, not at least for the next three years, it appears. Here's Reuters. It goes into the USDA. They're also getting involved too. USDA ends programs for solar wind projects on farms.

This is Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins. She took the act. She says millions of acres of prime farmland is left unusable. So green, new deal subsidized solar panels can be built. This destruction of our farmlands and prime soil is taking away the future of the next generation of farmers and the future of our country. Basically starts to say that starting today, they will no longer deploy these programs to fund solar and wind. on productive farmland, it seems to make a lot of sense, obviously.

And then they're going to end these taxpayer handouts, but they're also ending the use of the panels made by what they're calling foreign adversaries like China. So that's the story within the story is these are Chinese solar panels, too, on top of that. But this whole conversation revolves around the science. Who's right about the science? We've been told it's settled. Here's the New York Post.

We have the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. That's the IPCC. They're the world's basically science, settled science body that dictates the science for the entire world on climate. UN abandoned science and hires climate change zealous to damn the facts. Obviously, this is an op-ed, but it says this, important facts. Because the IPCC has consistently failed to establish strong connections between greenhouse gas emissions in most types of extreme weather, a cottage industry of promotional studies have developed in its place. This is something called Extreme Event Attribution, was invented to circumvent the normal process of scientific peer review in order to have media impact and to support litigation against fossil fuel companies.

So when you see the temperature rise a couple degrees, you see a couple inches of rainfall falling, the media seizes on this and said, because climate change, because people are breathing and cows are farting, this is why we have to have a net zero grid. we have to build this out because obviously we're getting more rain. Science is not even involved in that. Science will debunk that immediately, but it's a media op. So the new UN co-author of the IPCC says this. As Frederica Otto, that is her name, the head of the world weather attribution, explains, quote, unlike every other branch of climate science or science, in general, event attribution was actually originally suggested with the courts in mind.

Otto, who argues in a new book that racism, colonialism, and sexism are the root causes of global warming. Oh, my God. It's just been appointed as co-lead of the forthcoming IPCC chapter on extreme weather. So it looks like they're going away from the settled science of climate change, and they're going to focus on extreme weather to try to really push this for the benefit of the courts. What's amazing is we realize in looking at this investigation that the IPCC is, you know, it knows its agenda driven down by the UN is to push climate change.

change as damaging, you know, causing dramatic weather. But there's still scientists inside of there. They're like, look, hey, we're trying, but we just can't make the connection. Yes, we see tornadoes, hurricanes, but we also look at the historical data and we just can't get there. So a lot of these headlines were being manipulated after the fact, after the science is saying, you know, we're kind of like, you know, even on this. We really can't prove it.

the UN and others around them started making extreme headlines anyway. Well, now they're just done with it. Now they're just done with overriding, real science. Let's just bring in guys that from the beginning are going to make the claim that the weather is being caused by global warming, whether they can prove it or not. I mean, and look, nothing shocking here. You know, my big realization this week is just, you know what science is? As I look at more and more, it says, you go down these rabbit holes,

and all you find are just castles built on sand, piles and mountains of assumptions and upon assumptions. You know, I realize that science, really, unfortunately, is the art of finding what you're looking for. You know, none of these people, none of these hypotheses ever prove themselves wrong. Somehow, they always prove themselves right. Somehow they always find the right peers to push it through, and only later do we find out that not a single medical journal is able to recreate the science in over 50% of their studies. And here we are again, a new science body that's being designed to find and prove what they're

looking for, even when the science isn't there. It's, you know, it's unbelievable. Jeffrey, amazing, amazing stuff. All right. Thank you, Del. Yeah, well, thanks for being a part of this team. You know, we are watching just world-changing events taking place. As I said, this really is the tipping point.

We are feeling a shift now. And, you know, I want to celebrate all of the great podcasters and people out there that are now finally talking about these issues. And the Ron DeSantis and government officials and attorney generals that are now suing and doing something about all these issues. But Jeffrey, I remember when it was you and I sitting here on our little show in a closet all alone. So what an amazing journey has been with you, my friend. Yeah, absolutely. I also want to say, too, since you said that, it's we're at this moment because of the parents who wouldn't shut up about their vaccine injured kids, about the issues with pharmaceutical drugs. We're here because of the dissident scientists. We're here because of the few journalists that ruined their careers to tell a story that wasn't popular at the time. So it's great to see everyone pile on. It's great to see Kennedy in this symbolic moment in front of the Senate committee, say what he says. And it's, it's, it's, It's even more amazing for me to stand next to you and this team at the high wire and keep going. This is an amazing moment.

So well said. Great work, Jeffrey. I'll see you next week. Thank you. Well, you know, look, if you've been watching this show for a few years, maybe you came on during COVID and said, wow, like nobody is nailing it like this. And if you look at our track record, we, you know, we would retract things if we've made a mistake, but we don't have to because I have one of the most amazing teams. over there that is working directly on this show. And I have scientists and experts around the world that we talk to every single week

to make sure that we're getting this right from every single angle that we can attack it. We have red team meetings. We challenge our own perspective so that we can get it right. And we do whatever it takes to get to the truth. We will put anyone on this show. Even if they're being attacked, we don't care. We want the information out there. And what is happening right now, what's about to release on Tuesday at the Senator Ron Johnson hearing,

is just another one of those tactics that we never talk to you about. I never ever tell you that I meet with the other side, that I am meeting with scientists and journalists. I was just in a PBS interview the other day. I don't know how it's going to turn out, but you know how I ended the interview? I said, you know what? I have to assume that this is a hit piece on me and probably Robert Kennedy Jr. But I am sitting in this chair right now doing this interview because I know you're intelligent people. And I know that if you knew that there was an issue that was destroying the lives of children, you would do something about it.

And what I want to say to you right now is you have not been doing your job correctly. Even in the interview they said, well, you know, they'll say you're a religious delete. you're saying there are things like a religion. I said, the only difference is I'm showing you my work. I'm showing you my science. I'm telling you right now, just type in FDA licensed vaccines and everyone shows up. And then go to 6.1 on every single one of the vaccine inserts that's on the FDA's website. And look what it says about the placebo trials.

Never did one. Not on any of the childhood vaccines. They would tell you. They would tell you. They don't want to have to admit they never did a placebo trial. But there it is on the insert that was wrapped around. a vaccine that you never got to see because you never had informed consent. And so you're going to talk to experts to say, of course we've done those studies.

And you go, see the expert says. And I'm telling you, and I said to them, Tony Fauci lied about six foot distancing. Everyone, the CDC and the regulatory agencies lied, as Robert Kennedy Jr. Clearly put out today, lied about the efficacy of the COVID vaccine, that it would stop transmission. As Rachel Maddo says, if you take it, it stops with you. The virus stops with you. bull crap it does and you heard that here at the same exact time does not we know it doesn't

FDA has already admitted it I said you know you have got to start asking people to show their work you've got to see the evidence do not trust experts any longer we've been lied too long enough and I said to them I hope this isn't the last documentary ever made that bought into the greatest lie ever told you will not want to go down in history that way. That's how I do those interviews. I take every interview, by the way. I tell them all exactly what I think. I don't worry about how they're going to cut me in maybe somewhere they're going to edit it and try to make me look crazy. It doesn't matter because people will see it and say, my God, I think I agree with that. What's this high wire? What's the big tree up to?

Well, while all of that is going on, I've been looking for the best evidence you could find. We've been talking about the vaxed versus unvaxed study forever. I had to do. I had to be. I had to work on a relationship with someone that wanted to prove me wrong. I had to take a risk with your lives and all of our lives, by the way, and say, I will trust whatever that study shows when you do it. One promise, just publish it. Well, as you can well imagine, when they saw what we know you will see, as I've said it before, you know the CDC has done this study a thousand times

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Nothing about trying to bring back informed consent to this free nation would be possible without you. You are that network, the informed consent action network, that's you, and I thank all of you. Last week, we touched on a topic that was affecting all of our lives. It's something that we all shake our heads. Sometimes we even get tears in our eyes when we think about it. But there's one part of it that seems to be a pattern that is just very strange when we see these stories. Well, take a look and see if you've seen this yourself. The shooter, Robin Westman, formerly Robert Westman, who legally changed his name in 2020 to be identified as female.

The shooter identified as Audrey Hale, a tweeder. 28-year-old female who identifies as transgender. Another shooting that killed five people at a Colorado nightclub. 22-year-old Anderson Lee Aldrich. The defense says Aldrich identifies as non-binary. The Denver shooter was trans. The Aberdeen shooter was trans. The Nashville shooter was trans.

The Georgia shooter was trans. The Philadelphia shooter was trans. The Evaldi shooter was trans. The Colorado shooter was trans. And now the Minnesota shooter was trans. When it comes to these shooters, there's clearly an issue with radical trans ideology that we are seeing in the United States. There is something in the water with the untouchable nature of the trans

identity and what appears to be a kind of underlying mental instability that tends to disproportionately give rise to these school shootings. I think we need some changes of policies because when this sort of thing happens, we need to know what psychiatric drugs, if any, was the person on and which medical professionals was this person consulting. We need to know these things. Obviously, in the world that we live in today, this is one of those third rail topics. I want to be clear. I'm not here to disparage any group of people that's out there. But I am going to ask the questions that are troubling my heart, and I think they're troubling yours.

At the heart of this is when we looked it up, the headlines say that roughly 3% of the teenage population in high school are identifying as trans. yet they're making up an incredibly disproportionate number of those that are committing school shootings. Now, I'm not putting this on trans people, but I wanted to ask some questions in an area I really do not understand. And to help me with that is psychiatrist, Dr. Stephanie Reinhold. Thank you for coming in today. Yeah, good to see you, Del. Yeah. I assume that you're going to be good at handling the sensitivity of this topic.

But here's where I want to start. On the high wire, we've had some detransitioners on that are struggling, feeling like they were misled by psychiatry. When we do shows like that, lots of people write in that have a similar complaint that my child is questioning their identity or questioning their sexuality. And I cannot find any sort of holistic approach. Every psychiatrist I go to is telling me, no, they're in. the wrong body, they need to immediately start gender blocking drugs. It's like, can't they, isn't it possible they're just confused? Isn't it possible another way to work through this?

And they cannot find anyone in psychiatry that will take an approach is maybe the child has other issues and they're just putting it here. And so my question to you is why is that the case in psychiatry? What are psychiatrists being told? What is the, you know, protocol, if you will, in handling children who are having identity questions? I think that is the question. And it is a very loaded, complicated, delicate thing,

because gender dysphoria is a very real problem. It's a very real experience of suffering that I want to give voice to, that there are a small but very vulnerable population of people that do indeed suffer from it. You know, I think there are so many factors that can play into what that actually looks like in a person. And you're right, there's not a lot of people taking a holistic stance on this at all.

I think, frankly, because I think professional organizations are pressured to make statements very quickly to lead a large percentage, you know, they're professional that they're trying to give guidance to. And I think, honestly, I think they're not taking a lot of time to make some of these consensus statements, and they don't actually,

have a lot of data. You know, we don't really have great research studies. We, you know, there's some information just from reviews or, you know, metro analysis or meta-analysis. It's just not, it's not really conclusive. So then no one knows. And then there's constant fear. I think for professionals in particular, we're afraid to speak out. You know, we're afraid to take a different kind of approach because we're afraid to go against, you know, some guidance from a professional organization that's telling us you have to do gender affirming care and that's the only way to do it and once someone says this you know then we must go through this pathway and it's interesting because I don't actually think that same pressure is coming from parents and family members I think they themselves

equally are confused and really want what's best for their kid it's just a very scary a moment to have a child that saying I don't feel like you know I'm the person and I'm seeing the mirror or whatever the case I can't imagine thank God I haven't gone through something like that, but I am aware. Are you, you know, over the years in your practice, have you seen an increase in this issue? I think, I mean, I personally have seen an increase, and I think the data shows that there is more and more people. I mean, I think the percentage, even by what you just said, it used to only be one percent. It used to less than one percent. Right. You know, and honestly, gender dysphoria has been real since the dawn of time.

I mean, it was talked about in medieval literature, you know, so this is not a, a new problem. I think what is new is how much media attention is coming to this problem. And, you know, that is kind of where I perk my ears up and I kind of want to ask questions like, why are we giving so much attention to this now? It's interesting because along those same lines, you know, we used to be able to talk openly about there are certain conditions, one being eating disorders, another being suicidality, that gets worse, the more we talk about it. Right, you know, and look at kids. Correct. And so, and I am seeing, I think that transgender, gender dysphoria is becoming

one of those issues that the more we talk about it, now there's more adolescents, teens, young adults coming forward with struggles in this area. And I, but again, we can't say that out loud. You know, we can't say the quiet part out loud that maybe this is like some of these other mental health diagnoses that equally have a contagion, contagion effect to them. That's also very unpopular to say out loud though. I had a friend that his teenage daughter was having issues and eating disorder and so he was recommended I think probably by the school counselor to put her in some sort of group counseling thing he thought it was a great idea he says while she's there she starts

hearing about other kids that are cutting themselves and then ends up taking on that disorder is like great that was really helpful you know and now I've got two issues and One really seems horrific. And it's just, it's sort of what you, like once you put that thought in their head, whatever that dysfunction is, it can be placed in so many different ways. And you said something interesting,

and it's where I think that Robert Kennedy Jr. finds himself right now in dealing with many of the issues he's looking at, including, you know, drugs, SSRIs, gender affirming care, is you're saying there's not a lot of studies here. There's not a lot of information here. We're really looking for answers. But it's amazing to me when there's not a lot

science, how good pharma is it stepping up and saying, here's the answer, here's what it is, and everyone seems to go along with it. And so my question really is, because it came up last week, in SSRIs and things like that, and gender affirming care, I saw some studies, some people are pointed studies that gender affirming care doesn't look like it causes suicide, you know, ideation or things like that. I don't know if that's the case. But what I want to ask you is, you know, as a psychiatrist, there seems to be a one-size-fits-all that's happening, which is let's immediately get you on track to, you know, gender-blocking drugs. My question is, are SSRIs a part of that immediate recommendation? Is trans this issue when it comes to you or, you know, identity issues, is it seen as sort of like enveloped in depression and must be handled that way? Or are they separated?

That is one of the questions I had if I'm watching the news this week. You know, I don't have data to support this, but from what I normally see is there's predating mental health struggles. So, you know, the gender dysphoria often comes on, or at least it's illuminated later in a patient journey. So oftentimes by the time they're even getting to the point of a puberty blocker or, you know, something like that for their treatment plan, they've already had some level of size. from even just general anxiety, depression, maybe potentially even bipolar or other more serious mental health diagnoses. So oftentimes they probably are on psychotropic medications, maybe potentially long before even that conversation enters the picture. So you're saying rarely is the first issue you have is you have an identity question. It's usually coming, you know, with other things that we're leading into it.

That's my experience with it. I don't think there's great studies to prove. that one way or another, and you may ask a different professional, they may see something different. But I often see, because so many of these patients, I mean, over 90% of them have a comorbid mental health diagnosis, and that often predates the desire to actually transition. And so, you know, when we hear these stories of psychiatrists that immediately start, you know, hormone therapies, are there any studies since the odds sounds like pretty? good that you're going to be mixing SSRIs and hormone, you know, injections or whatever? Are there studies that show any pharmacokinetic issues there?

Not that I know of. I mean, there's frankly, there's not a lot of studies talking about multiple medications, period, not just multiple psychiatric medications, but there are not a lot of studies on polypharmacy, essentially. And so we kind of end up with this mentality where we have to look at, You know, we look at the drug-drug interactions between different things, which we have really good tools and information for that just from a physiologic standpoint. But again, what's going on inside an individual human body in their individual genetics and how they are metabolizing something? We don't know.

We honestly don't for lots of things. So you may be talking about a patient that maybe they're on an SSRI and they're on a mood stabilizer and now we're talking about puberty blockers. That's multiple medications that can all affect. It can affect bone density. It can affect your neurological system, obviously. It can affect your other hormones. I mean, SSRIs also affect your hormone system. So by themselves.

And now we're talking about additional heavy-hitting medications. I mean, and I do think a lot of these conversations have just been rushed. And I really want to give the benefit of the doubt that I think this population suffers so greatly that the powers that be, the, you know, agencies, they just want to give some guidance so that doctors have a clue how to take care of these patients. And yet we're not really doing a great job of now following up. Is this helpful? Is this actually even serving their mental health needs? And, you know, now it's so taboo to even have these kind of conversations that we can be more open and just discussing some of these very real honest questions.

I think we could get to the bottom of a lot of the problems in the world today if we would get back to being allowed to talk about them I'm getting really tired of just you know being forced into very narrow hallway of words and ideas that you can share things that you can question we have real issues now and you know I think we're tired of watching results but we can't ask how did we get here you know there was a couple of things from the manifesto that were written by this latest shooting that I think, you know, are chilling in on this topic. These were just headlines, because I think some of it's written in Russian and English, but Minneapolis school shooter, Robin Westman, confessed he was tired of being trans.

I wish I never brainwashed myself. I mean, that's an incredible statement. And I hear that from the people that we've had on the show discussing this, that, you know, I was depressed, I had issues, maybe I was upset with my parents. This seemed like a way I could find. a group of people, then I'm online, and they're telling me this is where I'm at, and they just slowly work themselves into as this, you know, very unfortunate individual is saying they brainwashed themselves. Is that a term? Is that a concept? Is that something you have to think about?

As a therapist, can someone, you know, brainwash themselves? I mean, I think if an entire body of people around you are telling you one thing, you know, and again, I really want to believe, I believe this is in the child's best interest. You know, parents, family members, loved ones, their doctors. But it's more than that. They're going online to other adults that are transgender or not or have some sort of agenda that are grooming them into this position and pushing hatred. And do we have that video? Did we prepare that video?

Well, I want to play this video. This is something that was online that I found very disturbing. Angry. Go out by a gun. It's okay to be angry. Get in my face now! If you try to stop me from going into a woman's bathroom, excuse me, it's ma'am.

Be the last mistake you ever make. It is ma'am. Find that anger. Yes, because. Hey. Harness it to do good in the world. This anger... You're done, man.

We can just make a fucking... I should say that some of us well. Anger is probably my primary source of motivation. You want to call me, sir, again? The thing is, you don't have to leave. You all know. For everything that I do. Cut that out now, or you'll go home in an ambulance.

I'll fuck you up! It was a call to action or call to arms. It's scar! I'm sorry, it's a start! Don't be afraid to show your anger. Not a very, not a very helpful, I think, guidance. for someone that's questioning what they're going through. Yeah, there's not.

You know. This isn't new for the mental health community though. I mean, we see this with eating disorders, you know. And I wonder, you know, there's some cultural, and there's researchers that know way more about this, but there's sort of the mental health diagnosis of the day, if you will. You know, it was psychosis back in the 50s 60s, you know, there was articles and advertisements,

about antipsychotics for the stay-at-home mom. You know, then it turned into eating disorders come 70s, 80s, where we were looking at magazines of these like rail thin women and finding these unrealistic beauty standards. And now you see really in the last pretty 10 to 20 years, we've seen this escalated rise in gender dysphoria. And there is a glamorization of this from culture, yes.

And I think social media probably exacerbates it, where adolescence is hard. I mean, your changing body just in a healthy changing body is very complicated for anybody to live through. And so when you're feeling any sort of distress or anxiety or you go through trauma, you know, you are seeking some solace somehow. And I'm not saying this is everybody that is dealing with gender dysphoria. But I think some individuals, and we've seen it with detransitioners that speak out, most of them share the same story that, you know, I was just suffering, period. And this is the community that sort of let me in, and then you get so far into it, and then it becomes taboo to ever leave.

Because you feel like now this tribe that is welcomed you in, you're leaving the whole tribe, and that's your whole community support, your whole mental health support system. So now you have to live kind of by all of their construct. And they often then attack when you talk to them, like how could you let us down? You know, we were here for you. So there's a huge guilt trip that's put in there and pressure. There was another headline about another statement from this manifesto. Minneapolis gunman, Robin Westman, Blaine, Massacre on mom warning him not to change gender,

and then discourage people from letting their kids transition. Obviously, just a very, very confused individual. But then you add in SSRIs. Are SSRIs a solution to this level of confusion? Because we looked it up. Robert Kennedy Jr. made headlines last week saying, look, I am looking into this. looking to see if behind these school shootings, you know, is this, you know, incredible rise in the use of SSRIs in our children, amongst other things? I wouldn't, I would probably say

you should look at ADD medications, attention medications. I mean, these kids are drugged. They're not sober, but what he's saying is this black box warnings. I wanted to look it up, and we did. We looked up the top drugs just for people out there. Prozac. It has a warning label. It talks about suicidals. Here it is. Increased risk of suicidal thinking. behavior in children, adolescents and young adults taking antidepressants, monitor for worsening and emergence of suicidal thoughts and behaviors. Well, that's great. I thought the whole point of this product was to avoid that. And then, you know, we'll just sort of list through them. Lexapro. Same thing. It gets into suicidal thoughts, increased risk of suicidal thinking

behavior. We can go on to the next one, Zoloft. So they're warning you. And so what I didn't see, and I was expecting, is I thought I was going to see suicidal thoughts. and homicidal thoughts, which I feel like I've seen someone on label it wasn't in any of these. Do those sort of live in the same place in a person? If you were suicidal, are you more likely to be a homicidal or not care about your fellow man? Is that, you know, do we know how those things interact? I think we see sometimes the reverse. You'll see individuals that have homicidal thinking, almost all of them at some point in the recent past had suicidal thinking.

I want to be clear, mental health diagnoses do not naturally lead to violence in the vast majority of individuals with the mental health diagnosis. So that said, I mean, these are very troubled souls. I mean, they have lots of suffering. And I think what's unclear is even how much counseling, how much people are even screening for suicidal thinking. You know, if you're not even really seeing a psychiatrist, you're going to maybe an endocrinolone, maybe you're getting all your treatment through a primary care doctor or an adolescent clinic.

I don't even know how much on an ongoing basis they're actually even screening for mental health symptoms. But I mean when you look at school shooters, I mean over 90% of them had mental health diagnoses and even more of them actually, the vast majority of them actually were connected to some level of mental health treatment. Right. So the issue is not that these people are not being identified as someone who's suffering. The issue is probably that we need complete reform in our healthcare system. Because obviously even getting mental treatment, whether it is through drugs or not drugs, because maybe the drugs are making you worse, but we don't have data for that either to know.

Or it's just the treatment is significantly failing these people. Yeah, I mean, I think that, and that's the argument the drug makers make, right? They were suicidal when they started taking the drug. How can you blame our product for something that we knew was their issue anyway? But I would assume if we're seeing warning labels, that means there were some form of placebo-based trials where they saw a heightened risk. I'm certain of it, a heightened risk of increased suicidality and things like that. And I see that. I mean, you'll see in kids they get overactivated, they get overstimulated, even if it's not full-blown suicidal thinking,

you still see sometimes that their symptoms get worse. Now, that said, I also see that sometimes they're life-changing for people. But we also don't have great tools. Is this because of their genetics? Is it because of other confounding variables? Is it just because of a simple thing like a sleep cycle or their environment? We don't really know because we're not testing some of these things either. Yeah, I think that's what I think we're all hoping that, you know, Kennedy will get happening inside of NIH CDC.

Can we start doing more thorough testing? And by the way, I think these pharmaceutical industries, you know, owe some money into that, too, because they're making fortunes, fortunes off these products. They obviously do pretty well in courtrooms when they fight back because they can afford incredible, you know, these incredible cases that are affecting far too many lives. But I think the big question too is then, you know, when we look at other countries where there must be depression,

there must be issues where they're not as drugged as we are, we take more drugs than any nation in the world prescribed. And we are having this school shooting epidemic. And by the way, you know, look, I think guns should be on the table. I'm not saying we should select, I mean, I want it all on the table. I'm not going to choose sides, but there are nations with plenty of guns and they, you know, almost every household are not having the school shooting issue. And so I want, I'm going to ask you really, you know, I feel like I grew up with discipline. I grew up with discipline in my house, you know.

God forbid, I even got spanked. I know that that's like, you want to talk about the third rail. I don't spank my kids. My wife will never have it, but I feel like I'm missing a tool that worked really well for me as a kid. Like I knew when I was out of line and had to overcome that adversity. My parents represented, you know, resistance to me just getting my own way on everything. And it just feels like our society is just going softer and softer and just support your child. Don't give them any pushmen.

They've got to find themselves. Well, then how are they going to deal with a world that isn't going to kiss their ass? Great question. It's a good question. I mean, I do feel like at some point, you know, it's interesting looking at historical context, right? I mean, we have these baby boomers where they had, you know, arguably very strict childhoods. You know, some of them, even kind of their parents living through the Great Depression era. And so, you know, very strict discipline.

And now a few generations later, now we're living with, yes, very permissive parenting, very affirming parenting, where we affirm emotions, we, anything that they say, yes, you can do it, I believe in you. And so much of that is lovely and beautiful and awesome. And I think we are raising very confident, capable individuals who do have strengths and talents, but we're also raising very anxious children, and that is proven in research. We're raising children that are very anxious. They need almost lots of coddling because they're now almost addicted to the affirmation

and the validation from the world around them. And so, you know, you see it within the mental health care system at large now that you have providers that are just affirming of your suffering without also helping them give tools and boundaries to, you know, what does that look like? like, you know, yes, you're suffering. Well, how can we get you out of this? You know, sometimes there's also a mindset piece, but coming full circle, I mean, it's speaking to the holistic part of it.

It's not just medication. It's not just diet. It's not just environment. There's a mindset piece. There's a boundaries piece. There's your own lived experience. You know, what was your childhood like? Yeah.

All those things relate. You know, when, you know, as we sort of wrap this up, I think people, we, you know, our kids are hanging around other kids now. That are, their parents are just affirming all sorts of crazy stuff, frankly. That's how I see it. It's my opinion, not yours. I'm not going to put you on that.

But, you know, I've had my kid come home and say I was just at a camp and they had a furry there, some kid that thinks he's an animal. And his parents, I think have him going to the bathroom in the litter box. How am I supposed to talk to my kid about that? I mean, I want my kid to be accepting.

For me, it was simple. We just dealt with racism. Like everyone's a child of God, you know, but we sort of shared ideas of how we live in this world. My kids are talking to kids that, you know, don't want to use the bathroom that they're designed to use, you know, or might not even think they're in this species and want a litter box. I mean, I mean, I can't hide them from that world. It's out there. I mean, we've been homeschooling.

I still at, you know, a church camp. it came up, you're like, what? So how do you prepare your child? What is it we tell our children about acceptance, but not taking it on themselves? I think you first have to help your child have their own strong identity and really enforcing your own personal boundaries.

I mean, we are all entitled to have our own values, our own philosophies, our own beliefs systems within a family that you choose to impart on, your children. And I think it, you know, you joke all we had to deal with was racism. And, you know, don't talk about politics and religion will be fine going forward in life. But I think you can kind of view it like that. Because for a lot of these people, it is a very fixed belief system. And so you're not going to change their mind. You're not going to change their parents' mind. You know, I think for our own children, our own families, we have to do our own soul searching

as the parents to decide what is it that I do really believe on this issue. And, you know, and how do I want to communicate that to my child? And that, I think level of firm confidence is actually really healthy. That's actually, you know, parenting styles that actually are more firm with like strong levels of boundaries. Strong levels of discipline, however, that looks to your family and your values.

But I think that that is actually what kids need. You know, there's been several, several research studies and books that show that more permissive parents, parenting actually creates more mental health struggles for children. So I think the worst thing we can do for our kids is to not have strong opinions about things. Okay. So because not just thinking that they're going to figure it all out, we need to give them guardrails.

That's actually healthy parenting where we show them, hey, this is what it's like to have a strong opinion. And for people watching your show, I mean, probably people have lost friendships over their strong opinions. But what a wonderful thing to model for your kids, actually, that you're so confident in something that, you know, this matters so much to me. I'm going to model this for my kids, that it's okay to lose friends on certain topics that really you value. And, Stephanie, I want to thank you for coming in today and helping us through some of those. I know there's no concrete answers. I know we need more science. Hopefully we have someone now

that's not going to be afraid to look at everything and put it all on the table. I think that's what we're doing here. But I want to thank you for your guidance today. Thanks down. Thank you. Good talking. All right. Well, you know, it is great to have an opinion. Let your kids, I've said that they're watching you. They're watching how you're walking around in the world. That's affecting them. So be aware of what you're saying around them, but also be honest. If it's working for you, if you like the way your life is working, don't just expect, you know, expect they're going to get there. They're watching you talk about why you have the ideas. I think, you know, we all know you're just watching the age of your children as they come along,

but we are raising our children in many ways like it's wartime, you know, that it's not the same world we grew with. You can't protect them enough. The billboards that you're driving past are in the car. There's no way to hide it. These conversations need to happen. I would just say talk to your kids, be open, listen to them. Well, today as I was walking on the high road, one of the bricks that popped out I thought was just perfect. for this seismic moment, this tipping point that we find ourselves in right now.

Take a look at this. There's a brick that I think perfectly suits today's show. It's this one right here. Truth and freedom of the press. Thank you, Del B, RFK Jr. and I Can for fighting the good fight. Love, CRC. I think that's really going to fit with this show today with Robert Kennedy Jr. In the hot seat in front of the Senate and some of the announcements we have

of one of the most courageous projects we've ever embarked upon. It's this inspiration. It's these bricks that we walk every day that gives us the power and the vigor to decide to do what we do. I'll see you on the show. It really is so cool to walk and look at all these different comments and just feel your energy and your thoughts that went into the bricks. I hope you'll take us up on this new opportunity. It's a beautiful place. It gives you a reason to come to Austin, Texas, and feel a little bit of the Texas freedom if you're in a more oppressed state, but also to check out. the high wire. So I hope you'll take up that opportunity. I really hope that if you're out

there and you want to make a difference in this world, you haven't started donating, we really could use your help. We are taking on big projects. This one, I think, is maybe the most ambitious project we've ever taken on. You know, God works in his time. And, you know, when we all come together, we're able to sort of meet that challenge. And so get a brick, help us make this filament. We've got to finish it up. October 3rd. is right around the corner. We want to have a massive push through social media. Obviously, some of that will be grassroots, but anywhere that you can help us right now is going to make a huge difference. We do not want to have this study go unseen. We do not want this movie unseen.

This is that one of those moments we have all been waiting for an inconvenient study. This is going to blow people's minds. It is going to be that film you want to show to your friend that is maybe pregnant or thinking of getting pregnant and just saying, look, you have got to see these numbers. These were not put together. This is not a study by anyone that could be considered anti-vaccin. In fact, they were pro-vaccine and set out to prove us wrong. I think it's a one-of-a-kind moment. It is going to be earth-shattering. And why does this matter? When you see Robert Kennedy, Jr. in the hot seat, it matters because of who is making our policies. Who gets to decide how your child should live? Who decides, as Joe said, you know, is it my right? Am I the one that

should be deciding what you injected to your body, what your children injecting your body? Well, look at who they're parading around in the news saying, this guy should decide who's injecting what into your body? Hepatitis B vaccine is on the agenda for the meeting in September. I predict that what they're going to do is try to change the birth dose of hepatitis B vaccine so that kids don't get it when they're born. So if you have a mother who is well connected to care, you know her hepatitis B status, that may not matter very much. But if you have a mother who's not gone to prenatal care who comes in to deliver, we have one bite at that apple so that child gets that important hepatitis B vaccine. Why does it matter?

stuff up, right? That's who they decide should go out and sell us on a hepatitis B vaccine. Let's make one thing clear. That is a man who probably needs a hepatitis B vaccine. Okay, that right there, just hold on that image. That is who this vaccine was made for. Full stop. They said it when they were designing it. We need to make a vaccine for people who partake in permiscuous sex with multiple partners or share heroin needles. Okay? Now, I'm not going to accuse this guy of sharing heroin needles. I don't need to.

We can see that he meets, you know, group A, right? And so why should this guy demand that my child be given the hepatitis B vaccine, which I hope, you know, look, I have nothing against it. This is the United States of America. Let your freak flag fly. But you do not get to mandate your freak flag. lifestyle on my day one old baby. Come on, let's just be realistic about this. All right, I get it. It might seem like the end of the world to you. I don't know why, because that vaccine being

given on day one will never last long enough to help you in the middle of your sex rave. That's just, that's just the reality of these products. But my God, if that's the best that they can roll out, and this is the war, this is the hill they're ready to die on, hepatitis every mother's tested for it. We know if you're positive or not. And if you are not positive with hepatitis B, which is, I think, 99.95% of you, if I remember the stats being correct, that are pregnant in America, then why do I need to inject my child with their first sexually transmitted disease on day one of life?

I want to ask every minister and every priest and every religious leader in this nation and around the world that says, you know, that we've got to support this vaccine program, that this is given to us by God. Really? Whether you're a Muslim or a Christian or you're Jewish or whatever faith it is, do you plan on having your child sharing heroin needles? Is that a part of your religious belief? Do you believe that there's an original sin that God forgot about, which has sexually done? transmitted diseases and while they take their first gasp of the precious air here on this beautiful planet right behind that should come an injection with their first sexually transmitted disease because this is what it means to be created in the image and likeness of God. Boy, have we lost our way. We've got a lot of work to do. I want to remind you there's only three days left to

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Just shed praise to both these guys for standing up for the first time in our lifetimes, for science, to get rid of assumptions and forcing products upon us. And thank God for Joe Latipo and Ron DeSantis. May they represent the future of where, you know, representation in America is leading. These are spectacular, spectacular moments. It's amazing to be a part of it. It's amazing to feel your presence in what we're doing. That is guiding us, that is supporting us, that is making this happen.

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