The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 448: TIDAL WAVE OF TRUTH

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

Dr. Peter McCullough breaks down a landmark autism study that could rewrite the narrative. Jefferey Jaxen exposes the rise of the “Enhanced Games”—where steroids, implants, and AI meet competiti...on—and a Florida bill that could finally reveal what’s behind SIDS. Then, Senator Alex Antic returns with an update on his brave pursuit of answers about the unpublished Henry Ford Health Study, the research central to “An Inconvenient Study.” Finally, Dr. Sherri Tenpenny joins Del in the studio to discuss her new book, her mission, and why she believes this moment could redefine humanity’s future.Guests: Peter Mccullough, M.D., Steve Slepcevic, Senator Alex Antic, Dr. Sherri TenpennyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Starting point is 00:00:44 Yeah. Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time to step out onto the high wire. And speaking of the world, we're getting emails from all around the world of people that have been watching an inconvenient study. the film that I think is really a game changer right now in the conversations around the safety of vaccines. Of course, you've been watching this show,
Starting point is 00:01:24 we've been promoting it all over. The trailers are out there, the conversations are out there. As I said, I believe we have jumped started the scientific method, debates happening all around that work. And I try to imagine sometimes, as I'm sitting here, and you probably do the same, what's happened with the pharmaceutical industry right now? I mean, what do they think of themselves?
Starting point is 00:01:46 We've lost our grip. You know, we had control the U.S. government. We had control the WHO and Gavi. We owned the television sets. How did we fall out of power? What is going on? Why is everything now the truth is getting after? We did such a good job of convincing everybody safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective.
Starting point is 00:02:07 For decades, it worked. No one questioned it. We were in charge. Now, all of a sudden, people are asking questions. We got no answers. And then I think, you know, what could possibly happen next? And that is exactly what happened this week. On top of all of the great work in the movies that are out there and in community study,
Starting point is 00:02:26 a massive, massive viral sensation, a scientific study that has changed the conversation across the world right now as we speak. And of course, you've probably seen it online. Breaking landmark report finds vaccination is the dominant risk factor for autism spectrum disorder. We have a montage talking about why this would be so important. You know, why does this study matter? Well, I don't know, maybe because that same pharmaceutical industry has been saying this the whole time. Vaccines don't cause autism. The science is clear.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Vaccines don't cause autism. Vaccines do not cause autism. I do not deny in any way that we need to do more about autism, but it has nothing to do with vaccines. We have thoroughly debunked any association between autism and these vaccines. Robert, it is nearly consensus in the science. community that there's no link there. To deny a mountain of scientific evidence, which has already taught us that the combination
Starting point is 00:03:21 measles, mumps, rebella, MMR vaccine doesn't cause autism. By Maris saw an Ethelmergrey containing preserver that wasn't a number of vaccines doesn't cause autism, and that most recently that too many vaccines given too soon, if you will, doesn't also cause autism. So we know that the schedule is saved.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Are there peer-reviewed scientific reports that indicate a link between No. between vaccines and autism. No. And not only is there not peer-reviewed work, this is probably the most studied public health issue involving children. Vaccines are really the one thing we have looked at as causing autism.
Starting point is 00:03:57 The Institutes of Medicine, the Centers for Disease Control, have repeatedly investigated this. Vaccines do not cause autism. We don't need more research. At some point, enough is enough. It's fine to continue to collect data, but at some point, you have to take no for an answer. We're not sure as a scientific community, what causes autism, but we know that vaccines do not.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Well, if you've watched the high wire, you know ICANN has sued government agencies on this. The CDC had to admit that they didn't have a single study showing that the first six vaccines in the first six months of life didn't cause autism. We've shown you video footage of experts on the stand like Catherine Edwards, when actually grilled under oath, doesn't have a single study. So, you know, when you watch that montage, I mean, if you were sitting in my seat, it just is outrageous the level and the size of this lie in this cover-up. But the only way to really refute those lies is actual science and the truth. And that is what is happening now.
Starting point is 00:05:02 I am honored right now to be joined by one of the authors of an incredibly important, maybe the most important study now of our lifetime, Dr. Peter McCullough. Dr. McCullough, thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me. You know, I want to dive into this. This is a massive, massive undertaking. This document is, I think, nearly 50 pages long. You know, how many studies, so this is a meta-analysis, correct, of studies from around the world. Just what's a breakdown of what is this?
Starting point is 00:05:32 How did you come about the conclusions that we see in this study? This was a funded study. The McCullough Foundation undertook it. We set out to do a systemic review and review all the information that was out there regarding what has been studied in terms of risk factors for autism. So we considered everything, you know, from genetics to the parental history, the prenatal history, other exposures. And, you know, we did essentially what HHS and the government agencies should have done this year
Starting point is 00:06:07 or should have done decades before this year. Yeah. This is the type of scholarship that Americans in the world deserved. And we did it at McCullough Foundation. The rest of the world is, I guess, still, you know, waiting for the government agencies. It's really incredulous. The last time the Institute of Medicine looked at this issue is strictly regarding MMR and adjuvants, you know, that was in 2004, Adele.
Starting point is 00:06:34 So there's been 21 years, well over 100 studies. And we'll take the 29 studies that did not find an association between vaccines and autism. And let me tell you, each one of those studies is critically flawed. Most of the time, the unvaccinated group actually had received vaccines, so it's not a true unvaccinated control. And Dell, none of those studies interviewed the parents, reviewed the vaccine records, or examine the children. So that montage you just showed, not a single one of those individuals, individuals actually read those papers or could stand behind them, the kids were never examined. That is probably mind-blowing to nearly seven billion people, not to me, because as you know,
Starting point is 00:07:24 we've been deep in this investigation for so many years and come to the same conclusions, everywhere we looked for the actual science. Where is this mountain of evidence, Sanjay Gupta, and the like keep pointing to when it comes to this is the one thing we have studied. never studied anything more. And then, you know, as you look at it, they've never even looked at the patients in the center. So how many studies in total were a part of, you know, this conclusion that you've come to, and multiple conclusions, by the way, it's not just vaccines. You talk about a lot of different factors that are contributing to autism. Right. And we anticipate government agencies will catch up to us. And they're going to find the same thing. 136 studies,
Starting point is 00:08:10 all cited in the references. We've divided them into tables and supplementary tables. Of those Dell, 79% either mechanistically, clinically or ecologically link combination vaccination to the development of autism spectrum disorder, and in particular, profound autism. We're not talking about just a little neurodiversity here. We're talking about children who are profoundly disabled. It's It looks like, you know, vaccines are clearly an independent risk factor. And for some, they are really the direct trigger for the onset of this disorder. Let me read the conclusion of this study, so everyone just gets a sense of how this paper comes out.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Here's the conclusion. The totality of evidence supports a multifactorial model of ASD autism spectrum disorder in which genetic predisposition, neuroimmune biology, environmental toxicans, perinatal stressors, and iatrogenic exposures converge to produce. the phenotype of a post-encephalytic state. Combination in early-timed routine childhood vaccination constitutes the most significant, modifiable risk factor for ASD,
Starting point is 00:09:23 supported by convergent mechanist, clinical and epidemiologic findings, and characterized by intensified use, the clustering of multiple doses during critical neurodevelopmental windows, and the lack of research on the cumulative safety of the full pediatric schedule. I've been making two statements publicly to try and simplify this conversation.
Starting point is 00:09:45 One, what I've said is in my experience in my studies, autism appears to me to be children that perhaps do not detoxify as quickly as others, which may be one of the issues, but ultimately what we're seeing is a toxic overload for many different reasons. We live in a toxic environment, and there may be, you know, when we've looked at genetics, You can't explain an epidemic in the growth of this through genetics, but you can say there's genetic susceptibilities to toxins and things like that. And I had a mother say to me something about two years ago that really, I thought, you know, was clearly stated. She said to me, Dell, vaccines did not cause my child's autism. Vaccines caused my child's encephalitis. The brain
Starting point is 00:10:30 swelled in my child's head right after vaccinations. They screamed for several days. And then they ever spoke to me again, and they're in diapers now as an adult. Autism is not caused. Autism is a symptom, she said, of a brain injury. I thought that was the clearest I ever, you know, heard it stated. Is that similar to sort of what you're finding in this massive investigation? I think that was a very good analysis, Bell. You know, recently Gavin DeBecker, who you had on a show. His title of his book is actually brain injury. And, you know, 20 vaccines list in the package insert as a side effect encephalitis or brain inflammation. And what we see as a result, broadly, attention deficit disorder, autism specter disorder, ticks, which are motor, involuntary
Starting point is 00:11:24 motor disorders and epilepsy, they're characteristic of a post-encephalytic state. It's not purely, it's not a clean, sterile, a toxicant injury to the brain. Now, granted, toxic factors can play a role, making things worse, but this is brain inflammation. That's the reason why fever is part of the post-vaccination syndrome that leads to, unfortunately, encephalitis and then these neuropsychiatric problems. We've all been looking at this study and saying, man, they poked the wrong bear when they messed with Dr. McCullough. I mean, here's a great heart doctor, the most published in the world on the heart and issues around that. Did you ever imagine that you would be at the center of an investigation on autism and even more specifically, vaccines? I mean, do you pinch yourself and say, what has happened here?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Why are, what is the focus? Why has this become so important to you? Yeah, I have always had an eye towards drug safety. You know, I chaired two dozen day safety monitoring boards, high level ones before the pandemic, including ones from the National Institutes of Health, big pharma, and, you know, interfaced with the FDA frequently. So I've always taken the Hippocratic Oath seriously. Above all, do no harm. Safety is always far more important than efficacy. But my research focus wasn't vaccines. In fact, I had taken all the vaccines on the schedule myself, my children did prior to the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:12:58 But through the pandemic, when it became crystal clear that autism was a crisis and, you know, a review of the information suggested there was tremendous censorship and reprisal for anyone who made an observation or linked the two, that's what drew my attention. In fact, the person who made the seminal observation on this published in Lancet, 1998, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, he's an author on this paper. And we asked Andy to make sure we were correct in our assertions about his paper and what happened, that we told the story correctly. And in fact, he completely agreed that we were on track. He had edits. We made these edits. And, you know, all good research is a team process.
Starting point is 00:13:50 This has a date of issue with the European Commission server on the Zenovo preprint server, review, of course, will happen and it's fully pending. But, you know, the figures and the data won't change, though. And no one on social media has questioned the science in this paper. There's only been ad hominem attacks. And honestly, they've been few and far between. Most people have really welcomed the results. What are you hoping happens now? I mean, I know, you know, a lot of times doctors and scientists that even start to venture in here and see this problem still have, what I call a religious belief. I guess I can say that safely since your book was really around, you know, the sort of the
Starting point is 00:14:31 mysticism of this experience, but they tend to not go any deeper because like, look, I don't want to be responsible for destroying the childhood vaccine program. As you've said, I'm sure, you know, you vaccinated yourself, you grew, you know, you have children, you have a family, you pursue, you know, you follow this. So to take this step, to also align yourself, to put your name on the same list of authors with Dr. Andy Wakefield. All of those things are decisions that someone like you is well aware of the consequences. So what are you hoping comes from this? What do you believe should come from this? You know, of all the authors who have opined on vaccines throughout history, including Peter Hottaz or Paul Offutt, far in a way, far and away,
Starting point is 00:15:25 I'm the most accomplished out of all those individuals. I have more peer-reviewed citations in National Library of Medicine. I've looked at more data. I've rendered more conclusions. So I am the senior most opinion on this topic right now in the nation. This report has been sent to officials at Health and Human Services in the U.S. House and Senate. We should have Senate hearings on this report. This is the government report that should have happened. Instead, we got a very disjointed press brief. on September 22nd, largely confusing the public on acetaminophen. And I think that was a tragedy. Health and Human Services should have been quietly working on a similar report.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And in fact, now they simply can use this one or they can do their own and they'll come up with the same studies. I'm sure of it. We didn't miss anything. And this now needs to be a national conversation. The childhood vaccine schedule will have to undergo an overhaul. an overhaul would have to undergo an overhaul now, Dell. It's clear and compelling. We can't stay on the present course. Amen. You know, one of the things I think, as I watched this, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:35 I was, you know, Robert Kennedy Jr.'s director of communications, but I just question now a lot. You know, health in the hands of a government bureaucracy, there's just too much horse trading and things that happen there. I think you're proving, as many of the other things we're doing, that in the private space you're able to do things, you're able to move just on instinct, on intuition, and just really not be held back. I think you're right. Hopefully, HHS just adopts this project as it is.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Maybe, like, go ahead and test it, see where this leads. But if you were right now, if you were in a position of authority, either Surgeon General of the United States of America, or, let's say, in Robert Kennedy's position at HHS, what do you believe should be the very next steps right now, given, you know, you see the lay of the land. We have President Trump as president. You know, he has, you know, some, you know, soft place it appears for the COVID vaccine.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But what would you do right now? I think the childhood vaccine schedule should be suspended immediately at this point. And that all school, employment, military, university requirements for vaccination, they should be, They should be taken out of any state or federal law. And then we shouldn't undertake a safety review. The decision of vaccination for any disease should be strictly between the patient and the doctor. That means the government getting out of the vaccine business. The government should be funding vaccine safety research.
Starting point is 00:18:11 And vaccines, you know, as doctors find where they have roles for those in high risk, it's a joint patient doctor decision. Fantastic. Well, I'm going to leave it there, Peter. You're a busy man. I want to let you go do whatever studies you have, you know, under that thinking cap of yours. Keep up the great work. It's been brilliant to have as someone as esteemed as you with the knowledge that you have to take on an issue that I know so many parents have been gaslit for decades on it. It fuels my passion clearly is fueling yours. I really feel like the Calvary is here. You're leading a charge. that is blessed by God and all of our prayers are with you. Keep up the good work and we'll have you. And so how do we follow the work that you were doing? Obviously, you have a foundation, right? I mean, so this is, this is McCullough, so you can, this is his ex-account. You can follow him there, everything he's doing. Can people donate to your foundation, Peter? Yes, people can go to McCulloughfnd.org, and about 75% of the donations comes from the public at large.
Starting point is 00:19:17 You know, we do receive grants for our academic work. But, you know, for the last three years, we've been, you know, a big impact in social media in the mainstream media on national TV. I've appeared hundreds of times on primetime TV, of course, in Washington, in the U.S. Senate House. And, you know, we're here for the long term. We feel, I think we're feeling a great unmet need right now. The academic orthodoxy is nowhere to be found.
Starting point is 00:19:47 on this issue, Dell. You know, nobody's coming out from academic organizations and giving any type of guidance on this controversy right now. They're in the shadows, and they're quietly, in a sense, I think watching what you and I are doing and so many others in this circle are actually making happen in the country. Well, it's great to have you on the team, Team Humanity here.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Keep up the great work, Peter, and we'll have you back on soon. Take care. Thank you. Well, well, I mean, you know, I just share that ex post, share everything, all of these things. Do you see the impact we're having? It's an international impact. These tools are flowing. It's like a tidal wave of truth that is coming right now towards the pharmaceutical industry that has just, you know, really gotten out over the tips of its skis, let's say, as it's tried to control humanity.
Starting point is 00:20:43 we're back in charge, the people are back. Speaking of humanity and humanitarian issues, a crisis just broke out in the oceans around Jamaica. And my understanding is we have breaking news. Our own Steve Slepsvic of Strategic Response Partners was in Jamaica. If somehow you were asleep at the wheel, this is the storm we're talking about. Take a look at this. A devastating direct hit.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Melissa slamming into Jamaica as a catastrophic Category 5 hurricane. It is the strongest storm to lash the island since record keeping began 174 years ago. Wind gust topping 200 miles per hour and torrents of rain violently lash the island. Video captured roofs and debris whipping across the town of Black River. This was a terrifying scene inside a hospital as Melissa ripped through. Heavy storm surge left streets underwater, uprooted trees, and brought down power lines. Local officials say hundreds of veterans. thousands of people are without electricity.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Tonight officials cautioning people to avoid flooded areas where crocodiles may learn. Visitors at this hotel forced to evacuate to the ballroom where they rode out the storm huddled together on the floor. And around 25,000 tourists are also still stranded with major airports closed. We are also learning according to the Associated Press that there are about five deaths associated to this storm in Jamaica. A great friend of the high wire and founder of strategic response partners. Steve Slepsvik is in Jamaica. Steve, my understanding is your team was not able to get to you. You were the only one that got in there before the storm struck.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So you've been weathering this one, you know, really alone in there. What's it been like? What was that storm like? So that ballroom that they showed is the ballroom that I was sheltered in. And this particular hotel is the Ocean Coral Springs Resort that's just in the Montego Bay area. Now, we have a team of forensic meteorologists that we're telling us, hey, listen, people are saying kinks in kinks. And I'm like, this storm's going to keep pushing west. So I pushed in two days earlier with our team into that hotel because I look at all right.
Starting point is 00:23:09 We're alive from Starlink, Elon. Let's get this thing booted back up so we can get Steve. Oh, here we go. Here he is. All right, go ahead. Go ahead. We lost you there for a little bit. So you said the storm was pushing.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You were in Montego Bay. They were saying, Kingston, take it from there. Yeah. And so, first in Montego Bay, we ended in the Feltz's room where we're staying. Right? That's how it's that. They boarded it up. He had stayed in the room.
Starting point is 00:23:45 So how would you describe this storm? You've been in the center of, many hurricanes. These images seem really intense. I think, you know, there's intensity. Obviously, you have major hotels that are probably built stronger. I've been to Jamaica. There's some very poor areas as we're seeing, you know, tin roofed shacks and things, which just can be so devastating for structures like that. But how bad was this storm? Do we lose, Steve? Oh, we might have lost him. We'll give him, let's give him a few more seconds. I mean, obviously, we got some footage, I guess, that he sent.
Starting point is 00:24:31 We'll just take a look at that while we're waiting to get him back on. We don't have that yet either. Oh, here he is. Can you hear me? There we go. Yeah, go ahead. All right, sorry. The reception is horrible here.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I wonder why. Yeah. So there's people that are an absolute dire need. And these areas are completely flooded out. if you see how All right here, we got some footage coming in right now. No water. So I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:25:10 I'm not sure. Can you hear me, Dow? I can hear you. We're looking at your footage right now. It's just devastating, flooded areas, blowing out. You know, I think one of the issues always is, you know, you survive the storm, but then it comes down to the cleanliness of water, right? The water supply gets contaminated oftentimes.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And then you have all sorts of diseases. these outbreaks because people can't get clean drinking water. Is that one of the concerns you have right now in Jamaica? Yeah, that's the hotel roof that you're seeing from us. Yeah, so there's waters contaminated. People are digging through the mud and bare feet. They need boots out here. They need lanterns, solar lanterns.
Starting point is 00:25:51 They need a massive support. So what we're doing is I'm working with 20 plus NGOs, met with the, got on the call with the mayor yesterday, met with him today, a meeting with him today as soon as I'm I'm done with this call. And so he's setting up three locations. I'm doing a quick aerial, sharing that with Samaritan's Purse, World Central Kitchen, like 20 different NGOs. I'm also headed down to Black River to be there with the hospital,
Starting point is 00:26:16 because we're setting an emergency field hospital where Samaritans purse is bringing their doctors, nurses, and everybody else to start rendering medical services. I'm coordinating with one of my best friends of Chicago called medical shipments to actually get a lot of the medical shipment It's donated there as well. So literally, this is all hands on deck. This is one of the worst in 35 years.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And the first hurricane I ever worked was Hurricane Andrew. I spent my life getting in early, riding these things out, so I could deploy my search and rescue teams from Ground Zero. So literally some of the stuff you're seeing is us getting up before the sun was rising and cutting our way through with vans that are tour vans, right? And I have my toes straps, I've done this many times, cutting through. and there's a group coming out of Montego Bay cutting through this way. Met with the airport director yesterday,
Starting point is 00:27:07 and he's like, dude, I'm wrecked. We're standing on the streets. This is how it's done. I'm like, here, just take photos. Here's the shrink-wrap company, right? Here's the power fuel company that's done work for us in the Caribbean. These are the guys you need to dry your building, power your building, and get these terminals open so people can get out.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So they started bringing the first humanitarian flights in. People are still now able to get the K-SEN, there's a Boston police officer, his family. I got him on one of the Ross, you know, Ross the vans this morning out of the hotel that rode it out. I'm like, guy, just do me a favor. This guy and his wife and his family, it's critical, get him off the X. A nurse, right? Get him in this van.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And they were out at 4.30 in the morning today. But yesterday was just cutting a line in, cutting a line out. And the sad thing is that as I'm passing through these areas, there's this gentleman who's handicapped, he's got no legs, right? He's sitting in between these two planes. So disheartening, people are driving by, and people are overwhelmed. So it's hard to get to everybody. And so we just jumped out service. They're serving others.
Starting point is 00:28:19 And what I want people to be reminded of is that it's time for us to serve these people. The amount of people that stayed behind in this hotel, right, that left their families, lost comms with their wives, their kids and children to serve the guests in the shelter, feed them three meals during that time. You know, and again, with a smile on their face, they're just now. And the thing is, I'm the only one in this entire place. There's over like 400 or 500 people here.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Cut out early. With my mobile Starlink, my guys are spread out the other island. There was, when I got back to the hotel from our ops last night, there was a mob, and I'm sure it's being shared on the internet, right? That I set my Starlink up for people to be able to be able to. to reach their families. They haven't been able to reach their families for two days to tell them that they are live, right?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Book their flights, handle their mechanics. And people, you know, people, it was chaotic. It was, I mean, there were flights that broke out. It was insane how people, when they're not connected, and the stress levels through the group. But to me, I know if my wife and my family was here and somebody had that ability to provide the connection to the outside world,
Starting point is 00:29:27 that's just what they would do. So I just want people to remember the people in Jamaica. But my guys, they're doing an incredible job. There's multiple teams coming in. They're bringing in additional Starlings. The hotel, the staff has done an incredible job. Had a really great foresight. But I'm telling you, if that eye would have slightly gone to the right,
Starting point is 00:29:48 the windows in the conference room, which was a good call, would have all blown out. That conference room that you're seeing, I pushed everybody with the security into the hallway between three and six because the curtain wall was about to blow. Then I said everybody, get your shots and your shoes on, get your kids. because everyone's sleeping on cots. So, again, people were getting a little uncomfortable, unruly, and I said, listen, listen, listen. You guys all get to go home.
Starting point is 00:30:14 The people here don't get to go home. Right. So it's all perspective, right? Yeah. Handle your . Be a self-cleaning oven. We'll get through this. One love, right? One love.
Starting point is 00:30:27 So let's just stay focused there. And it was one of the toughest hurricane I've written. But I'm telling you, the people are here distance right now. And the groups that are coming in, I'm doing everything logistically I can because that's what God called me to do. And we'll sleep later. Right now, it's just let's get things handled.
Starting point is 00:30:53 But it's tough for these people, man. They got a long, long road. This is not America, man. This is a different, different animal. Are there any favorite charities right now people are wanting to donate to help out? I mean, I know you said there's like over 20 something. Can we donate to the work that you're doing?
Starting point is 00:31:10 I guess here we have your SRP disaster response fund. So you can go there folks and Steve will make sure to distribute it to those that need it. Any other groups that you like out there? Yeah, and Dells, you know, 100% of that front end all goes out. I don't keep a cent. None of it goes to administration. We just don't do that, right? That's just not who I am.
Starting point is 00:31:33 This is what I'm called to do. All right. The other organizations that you, that have always done a great job, especially in the medical, is Samaritan's Purse. We're partners with them. We work tandem in tandem. I'm working with their logistics team. They get the medical field hospital setup with also World Central Kitchen, right?
Starting point is 00:31:52 And then of course, Operation Barbecue, you know, team, again, those guys from Stan Hayes from Operation Barbecue, again, these guys are going to be feeding people for months. the infrastructure's not there. And then you have other groups that are bringing in the fuel, the power. But again, whatever comes towards SRP, you have, you know my, I am true to my word. 100% goes exactly where it goes to the cause.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Always. It just always does. Yeah. Fantastic. Steve, I'm going to let you get back to it. You have important work to do there. I want to thank you for being there for the people, for being there for us and giving us a view into what's happening there. You're just such a brilliant friend of the highwire and just a great humanitarian hero. Thanks for checking.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Good luck. You're in our prayers with all the work and give my best to all the guys out there that are helping to get this work done. I will. I shared it. They send their love, much love and appreciation. And especially to your community, you know, the truth that's coming out there like you shared earlier. Man, listen, I get calls from so many different news stations, as you know. I don't take the calls.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I hit the breaks when you call because the truth. is unfiltered and your audience deserves to know what's going on. The truth, the real. Not filtered, not angled, not fake AI photos, the real deal. So thank you, Dell, and your entire team and your audience. Love you all. Love you too. Take care.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Best everybody. All right. Well, we still have a huge show coming up. Remember that viral video just over a week ago out of Australia where we had an Australian senator actually grilling the health department on where are the placebo trials on vaccines? Yeah, that one, I'm going to be talking to Senator Antick coming up here in just a few moments. I've got the one, the only Dr. Sherry Ten Penney.
Starting point is 00:33:43 She's put the entire university on vaccines into one book. This is going to blow your mind. You want to be smarter than any pediatrician you've ever met. We're going to talk about this incredible book and her work. But first, it's time for The Jackson Report. You know, Jeffrey, I swear every week, I just think, you know, this is a very important. It just can't get any better. There can't be any more information. We can't get any more momentum than we already have. What could happen next? And then just boom, this massive study by Dr. Peter McCullough coming out with all these great scientists on it. It's just, as he said, it's irrefutable. And you and I both knows this. We've been reporting on it. We've been reporting on it. I think you always feel like somewhere in the back of people's minds are like, yeah, but is it could it, is it possible? Is it possible? They have no science, right?
Starting point is 00:34:44 That all of that's just pure bravado and lies when they say we've looked as extensively and blah, blah, blah. And now Peter's just blowing this thing wide open. It just feels like, you know, at first we say the wind was at our backs. We got a tornado behind us right now. I mean, we are hanging on, 100 foot wave riding it. It's just amazing, amazing moment. It is. And sitting here waiting to go on.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I was thinking that too. This is a really historic show. This has been a historic week with that paper. And for what we call mainstream medicine, for the American Revolution and medicine to happen, the detractors, the people that didn't really believe this or actually fought against these studies that are coming out, they're going to have to accept this for all of us to move on. And this is my hope. And we're going to go into some more bombshell information because there is momentum in legal and medical spaces right now that is moving so fast and changing a pair of to something greater. But I want to go to the Olympics. We all know what the Olympics is.
Starting point is 00:35:46 This is a game of dedication, world-class dedication, showing the excellence of human movement and exercise. Well, something else is happening in America in Las Vegas in 2026. It's called the Enhanced Games. Check this out. All right. Tick, tick, tick.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Time can hold us back. A constant ticking, a reminder of everything we were to We couldn't do. To stay within the lines. To be good. Because good was enough. To dream? Yes, but only so far.
Starting point is 00:36:27 We refuse to be confined. We dream beyond what we were allowed to dream. We won't settle for good when extraordinary is possible. This is the moment to seize. The time to chase greatness. Not for ourselves. ourselves. But for everyone, we are here to move humanity forward, to redefine what mankind can be with audacity. The future isn't for those who watch the clock. It belongs to those who break it,
Starting point is 00:37:18 who step outside of time and build a new one. The next era of human potential is here. It seems big. What the heck is it? Exactly. I mean, they're promoting like a Nike Super Bowl commercial. Like I'm watching that going, I'm ready to buy some running shoes. What is it? I'm in. Sign me up. So, all right, so it's not quite as robust as the Olympic Games. So this is something called the Enhanced Games. Go to their website. There's actually just, there's three events. There's swimming, track and field, weightlifting. So clean jerks, sprints, butterfly, freestyle swimming. But what is the enhanced games? So you have this headline here. What are the enhanced games? Billioner.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Peter Teales backs new competition labeled doping legal Olympics. So this is what they're talking about here. Athletes, you can use what you want. You can enhance your body in any way you want. Performance enhancement drugs on the table. And really, as I read this, I thought, this is like the NFL, if anybody was alive, like before 1987. You go to Los Angeles Times here.
Starting point is 00:38:35 In 1986, this was their headline, NFL plans to begin steroid testing next year. So before 87, you're looking at the enhanced games, enhanced football, it's steroid basketball and baseball. We all remember Mark McGuire and all these athletes that were just, you know, that's what you did to compete back then. So this is what that is. And if it's not even crazier, we're emulating now S&L skits from like 30 plus years ago.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I looked for this. Check this out. All right. Athletes are allowed to take any substance whatsoever before, after, and even during the competition. So far, 115 world records have been shattered. We go now to correspondent Kevin Neeland, live in Bogota, for the weightlifting finals.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Kevin. Dennis, getting ready to lift now is Sergey Akmuda of the Soviet Union. His trainer has told me that he's taken anabolic steroids, Novakane, NyQuil, Darvon, and some sort of fish paralyzer. Also, I believe he's had several cocktails within the last hour or so.
Starting point is 00:39:36 All of this, of course, is perfectly legal at the All- Drug Olympics. In fact, it's encouraged. Aquinov is getting set now. He's going for a clean and jerk of over 1,500 pounds, which would triple the existing world record. That's an awful lot of weight, Dennis, and here he goes. Back on Saturday Live was funny.
Starting point is 00:40:15 That was great. Right. So, in all seriousness, the enhanced games is a symptom of transhumanism. And what is transhumanism? It's a movement that advocates enhancing the body with anything, artificial intelligence, nanotechnology, biotechnology, We know people like Klaus Schwab, man merging with machines, Ray Kurzweil talking about becoming God.
Starting point is 00:40:37 This is this movement to transcend humans, humanity. And one of the leading advocates is Peter Thiel, who is backing the enhanced games. And he was in an interview recently talking about the future of humanity. Listen to what he had to say about this. Okay. You would prefer the human race to endure, right? You're hesitating. Yes?
Starting point is 00:40:59 I don't know. I would, I would, um, this is a long hesitation. There's so many, there's so many questions in closer than this. Should the human race survive? Uh, yes. Okay. But, but, uh, I, I also would, um, I, I also would like us to, to radically solve these problems. Right. And, uh, and so, you know, it's always, I don't know, um, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah, transhumanism is this, you know, the ideal was this radical transformation where your human natural body gets transformed into an immortal body. And there's a critique of, let's say, the trans people in a sexual context or, I don't know, a transvestite is someone who changes their clothes and cross dresses. And a transsexual is someone where you change your, I don't know, penis into a vagina and we can then debate how well those surgeries work. But we want more transformation than that. The critique is not that it's weird and unnatural. It's, man, it's so pathetically little. And, okay, we want more than cross-dressing or changing your sex organs. We want you to be able to change your heart and change your mind and change your whole body.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Just to be clear, this is the head of Palantir that is essentially taking over data collection for the U.S. government and many governments around the world on health data. This is the genius. Like, this guy's going to solve all of our problems in government and in medical data. Is that the same guy, right? Yeah. Yeah. Same guy who also has $26 billion. dollars nothing wrong with being wealthy go get your money peter but we have someone that is not powerless
Starting point is 00:42:54 he's also doesn't have he's not he doesn't have a lack of political power he actually helped he supported he mentored jd vance uh to come to power as vice president he helped this the trump campaign so he has significant as you mentioned palatier as well he has significant power and we're as as a culture we're pushing this idea of let's enhance people past human potential to lift a couple extra pounds when among wealthy nations, the U.S. is last in healthcare, is last in chronic disease, deaths. And we're talking about people dying in hospitals and nursing homes with horrible care here in the United States. And then we have this breakaway civilization of transhumanists that are talking about, you know, the extremes of longevity. What if longevity just doesn't even mean, it just means being healthy for your life, being able to be independent and functional instead of transhuman?
Starting point is 00:43:49 trying to be these super humans and transcend humanity and become gods. This is a, you know, and it's a lot of these people that push this, it seems like they're very rich men that are trying to avoid something in their lives when they die. Yeah. So this is this transhumanist idea and it merges with AI. So you know that picture, that Michael Andrew picture of the finger pointing to God, there's also one of the finger pointing to this AI human trying to merge that. So artificial intelligence is in this conversation and a petition just came out this week with all of the
Starting point is 00:44:19 heads of AI, the people that helped develop it, seeded this idea in humanity. They have come out over 800 public figures, including they're calling the AI Godfathers, and Steve Wozniak, a sign open letter to ban super intelligent AI. So they're saying, look, AI is great, but it's helpful for healthcare, but we have to ban this idea of super intelligence. We have to ban this idea that we're developing a system that is better than humans in everything we do, because at that point, we're talking about loss of dignity, human dignity, loss of freedom, loss of human economic progress, and perhaps the extinction of humanity itself. 53,000 plus signatures on this, and it's a flashing red light. This needs to
Starting point is 00:44:59 happen. Everyone's lining up with this now. A lot of popular people, political figures as well. Wow. See, I thought we were just going to talk about a bunch of drugged out Olympians, you know. Instead, this appears to be like a dark side to all of this. And, you know, it's a body dysmorphism, Right? Like Peter Teal doesn't, you know, he feels limited by the body he's in that was given to him by God, his own brain. He wants more. He wants to go way past transgender. He wants to go trans everything, trans brain. You know, I guess it's a free country except when people like that start controlling elements of my life and your life. That's where I think we've got to keep a close eye on it. I'm glad you are. It's an amazing wild. Wild story. Wild to see someone that thinks so differently than many of us do. Yeah, it helps to put it in proper context. And let's bring this context
Starting point is 00:45:51 down to the ground level here, what we experience, again, in America. And something just happened legally. And it was really a landmark decision legally. And author Wayne Rody, he wrote Vaccine Court, the book. He's one of the world's basic, the heads, the leaders of information on the vaccine court. And he wrote this, rare accomplishment in the NBICP, that's National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. Family Proves Vaccine Caust. infant death. So let me break this down really quick. For those that don't know, if you've been living under Iraq since 86, just a little after that, you can't sue vaccine manufacturers for injuries or death. So you have to go through this special court that is paid for with an excise
Starting point is 00:46:30 tax on each vaccine, so the taxpayers pay for this. And you have to go against HHS, which is actually Kennedy right now. You have to go against them. You have to go against the Department of Justice attorneys to present a case and use science that's not accepted. to make your case to why this vaccine injured you. So a very high bar, but this has just been accomplished by two parents with great expert witnesses. So let's go into this court case, because I want to give the viewers and the listeners
Starting point is 00:46:58 kind of an idea what it's like to go through this nightmare. Let's call it that, this legislative nightmare that is the United States NVICP. So we have the actual court case here. It's 53 pages. You can go through the whole thing if you like. I want to pull some of it out. So you see here, the United States court,
Starting point is 00:47:12 federal claims, Office of Special Masters, Abigail Sims, Daniel Sims, as the parents on behalf of their deceased daughter AES, versus Secretary of Health and Human Services. So quick background here, you have an 11-week-old baby. Around 11 o'clock a.m., the parents took this baby into a pediatrician office for a well-baby visit, and that baby received pediatric's vaccine, which is a D-TP-P vaccine, Hep B, polio vaccine, all packaged in one. They received the homophilous influenza vaccine.
Starting point is 00:47:41 They received the PCV-PCV vaccine. This is a pneumocococcal vaccine and the rotavirus vaccine. All of those at once. Oh, my God. And just a side note here, ASIP, AMA, AAP, there is no upper limit to catch up vaccines. Now, this wasn't a catch up vaccine scenario, but when you hear all these vaccines going into this child,
Starting point is 00:48:01 at one time. At one time. So that's 11 a.m. As Peter McCullough's study shows, and we've shown time, no science had ever looked at, can we give all these vaccines the same time? They just, an assumption. Oh, it's got to be fine.
Starting point is 00:48:14 to give multiple antigenes and, you know, adjuvants and all of it all at one time. It's incredible. Right. The science recommends just an inch apart in the muscle body. You can just get it. Anyway, so we put yourself in the, in these parent's shoes. 11 a.m. well baby visit, get the vaccines. By, as far as the court records are concerned, by about 5.45, the father comes in, finds the baby on the back. There is no other obstructions in the crib. And the baby was blue, struggling to breathe, takes the baby to the baby to the, the hospital, rushes to the hospital, they try to resuscitate the baby, the baby dies, 11 weeks old. So here is the court case, brings in two expert witnesses. One of the expert witnesses is Dr. Schumann. It says this in the court case. In Dr. Schumann's opinion, the D-TAP and or the Prevna 13th vaccinations received in December 16th, 2013, causing cephalopathy and cerebral edema,
Starting point is 00:49:03 which pushed down on the, and caused brainstem herniation affecting respiration and causing cardiopulmonary failure resulting in death hours after the vaccination. Cephalopathy is brain swelling, causing things like this in the extreme case. So then they have Dr. Gershwin. Dr. Gershwin. Dr. Gershwin is another expert witness brought in by the parents. Dr. Gershwin said this. They submitted that AES, that is 11-week-old baby, received multiple vaccines, which caused the cytokine production that is plausible and likely explanation for the cerebral edema and enlarged brain found on autopsy that led to death. Now the DOJ attorneys that were fighting these parents came in. One of them was Dr. McCusker. Dr. McCusker,
Starting point is 00:49:42 as the court document states, stated in her years of practice, seeing encephalopathic children in the ER, they are not quiet, they're in pain, won't and can't eat, are nauseous, and have severe headache and vomiting. In the court documents, it shows that this child that died had none of that. So they're arguing this can't be encephalopathy because child didn't have that. This is what I see in my practice. But thank God these expert witnesses came back. Dr. Schumann said this. She added that the younger the baby, the smaller the behavioral repertoire to display autonomic impairment. She said this, quote, young infants don't cry loudly about their distress. They die quietly. So what happens here if you're a parent trying to seek justice, basically, compensation for these injuries, these
Starting point is 00:50:26 deaths, there's a table of vaccine injuries you have to follow. These are accepted injuries that are known, that are accepted by the government, and you have to make the case for a table injury, they chose acute encephalopathy. So this was a rapid onset of this brain swelling. Well, the D.J attorneys actually argued in this case, and they said, because the table injury said it has to be shown, it has to have this acute encephalopathy for 24 hours. The DIG attorney said, didn't show it for 24 hours. So you technically can't use acute encephalopathy because they died. Didn't show it because they died, right? Exactly. Exactly. God, these people need to burn in hell. I swear, I don't know how they live with themselves.
Starting point is 00:51:11 They argue that death does not independently establish the existence of this table injury. So it's not just death. You have to have death and acute encephalopathy, which, sorry, the kid wasn't alive for 24 hours. That is, that's what you go against. And thank God, this special masters ruled rarely on his case for the parents. And they said this, in conclusion, upon careful evaluation of all. the evidence submitted in this matter, the medical records, the testimony petitioners, and the experts, and the medical literature, I find that petitioners have shown that they are entitled to compensation under the Vaccine Act. Accordingly, this matter shall proceed to damages. So I believe it's $300,000 they receive with attorney's fees and whatever the DOJ attorneys were paid. I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:51 this becomes a wash because the attorney's fees becomes so much. But what we're seeing here is this movement now away. It's not SIDS. It's not sudden infant death syndrome. This is vaccine-induced infant death. This is another whole different term that the medical community, legal community is accepting and needs to accept. And it's actually happening legally in a state called Florida. We have Ileana Garcia. She is a senator in Florida. She has put forth bill 188. And this bill says this. In the case of an infant or child who die suddenly and unexpectedly, including cases of SIDS, S-U-I-D- that sudden unexpected infant death and sudden death of young S-D-Y, the autopsy must include microscopic and toxicology studies and a review of the child's immunization of medical records.
Starting point is 00:52:38 It's astonishing doesn't have this already, but now this is mandated. And this is a great bill because it's not just mandated with a wink-wink. There's teeth in this bill. You go into the next line and it says this. First unreported case by the medical examiner, find $1,000. Second unreported case, find $5,000. Repeated noncompliance. Disciplinary action may include suspension or removal of basically your job.
Starting point is 00:53:00 So we have Mary Talley Bolden last week. Instead of removing someone for ivermectin, removing for this, if they're not following these laws, if this goes through. Now it's moving through. And we have the medical momentum, too. Just a couple weeks ago, you had Dr. Gary Goldman on. His amazing paper is now breaking down the actual mechanism for SIDS or rather vaccine-induced child death.
Starting point is 00:53:21 And it looks like this. The immature infant liver, they talk about this P-450 enzyme and the relevance to SIDS research. and they're talking about children, genetically susceptible children, like you mentioned to Peter McCullough at the beginning here, some of these children have this enzyme, this genetic defect, and they cannot detoxify. So in the United States, the range is about 2,300 to 4,500 SIDS deaths per year. I mean, really, if you look at that, is that, are we seeing the amount of genetic susceptibility here to this enzyme? Is this how many kids have this enzyme? And they're being, this is the flag that's being raised up on, you know, on their deceased, on their deceased lives so we can look at this. This is what we're looking at in this medical
Starting point is 00:54:02 and legal momentum that's happening right now. It has to keep going. It has to keep going. It's such a windfall at this moment. Just think about it in the very same week where we have a study that looks across the world at all of the science and shows that the, you know, the most accessible cause of autism is vaccinations. And here you have vaccine court, as we've described it, ruling on a case of SIDS. So if one case can be caused by vaccines, how many are caused by vaccines? I don't think it's lost on anyone that's watching this show that a baby, this baby. What are we talking? Not even three months old, went in and got 10 vaccines all at once, each one of them with its own aluminum adjuvants inciting their immune system. So you've got 10 different products inciting immune systems.
Starting point is 00:54:48 It's different viruses and bacteria circulating through the body all at once saying, bite this, bite this, bite this. Oh, whoa, look. The immune system's out of whack and now their brain is swelling. How did that happen? You know, watching these liars as we just watched the montage saying vaccines don't cause autism, the pall opposites of the world that have never done. And when we say this, Jeff, every time we look at this, right, the fact that you need a law to say if an infant dies, you have to attach their current vaccine record to it.
Starting point is 00:55:18 How long ago was the last vaccine they got? The fact that the Paul offense of the world, these guys have fought laws like this. You're not allowed to look at the vaccine record shows how disgusting and dangerous these human beings are because infants are doing what? Maybe they're being breastfed, maybe on baby food. What else are they coming in contact with? What toxic overload could possibly cause death in the crib? I don't know. Probably those damn 10 vaccines he gave them two days ago.
Starting point is 00:55:45 So anyway, it's great to see the shift. Obviously, we're all passionate about this. These are innocent babies. You know, I think of, you know, the many parents that we've had, Nick Coton and his family that spent so much time with us. I guess there's, you know, there's some light at the end of this tunnel. Amazing reporting, Jeffrey. And I think that law should be mandatory in every single state in this country and around the world. What was the most recent vaccine?
Starting point is 00:56:13 Let's ask that question. All right, Jeffrey. Amazing. It's just great to be a part of this team. Have you with us, with all that's. happening. You know, it really, we are in a turning point moment for the world in exposing some of the greatest lies ever told. It's great to have you. I'll look forward to to talk to you next week. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I mean, you know, look at what we're talking about. This entire facade is crashing down. And one of the things we've been talking about with our team is, you know, are they going to be able to put the genie back in the bottle? Are they going to be able to stick it back in there? because I don't see how. You have to recognize that, and when you watch them on the news, right, it's like they're stuck in a time capsule of their own. Vaccines are safe and effective. We have looked extensively at the safe and effective.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Only one doctor in the world has ever questioned this, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, and he was a fraud. I mean, it's still, it's like we're in the 1970s on this conversation. Meanwhile, it's like, and I got all my COVID boosters, Sanjay, really? I mean, so you're telling us all you have no. brain because we all stopped doing that. Like we have all stopped because we read the science and we never went to bed school. I mean, it's incredible that they think somehow sticking with that slogan and
Starting point is 00:57:31 approach with no science is somehow, you know, I get how it kept us all asleep. I get how they got away with the generations, especially the baby boomers who just felt like they've been saved by modest medicine. We're not aware that they're now giving their kids and their grandkids like a hundred times the amount of vaccines they ever received. But it's over, you guys. Think about this. Everywhere a young mother is looking right now, every college student, you cannot unsee all of the studies in science that are blowing up, going viral across every social
Starting point is 00:58:05 media platform, question the safety of vaccines. When you, if you're watching this show, if you're, you know, if you're like me, if you're Gen X or, you know, somewhere in that position, we never saw this. This was never a conversation. So what happens when all of a sudden social media around the world is having a conversation that has never been allowed before that actually post scientific studies, post the lack of studies? The world changes. The world changes.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And we got one of the best examples of that just over a week ago. We reported on this about a Senate hearing in Australia. Literally the other side of the world that started asking the same. exact questions the Highwire has been asking and talking about the same exact study I asked Henry Ford to do. Of course, I'm talking about this video that went absolutely viral of Senator Antick in Australia. Take a look at this. Of those vaccines, how many placebo-controlled studies have been done on vaccines on the childhood schedule? I would just highlight if I may, Senator, this is a question that's also been asked of other regulators. I think part of the challenge that we have is
Starting point is 00:59:15 that while it is frequently held that placebo-controlled or double-blinded or randomised controlled trials are the gold standard in science and certainly in the introduction of new medicines particularly when there's no established standard of treatment that that is often the case there are fairly substantial ethical questions to be to be answered around introducing a placebo controlled trial when there is a demonstrated effective medication that is used to either prevent or treatment. So, for instance, given that we do have demonstrable efficacy of vaccines for many vaccine-preventable diseases,
Starting point is 00:59:52 it would be ethically not only questionable, but probably not arguable, that a placebo-controlled trial would be appropriate, given that you would actually have to specifically not vaccinate children, expose them to the disease that we know has serious morbidity, when we also know we have an effect. So these are injections that we're giving to almost every child in the country, at the moment and they're not and we and we can't say at this stage you have to take on notice how many placebo controlled studies have been done which is the gold standard uh no uh it's not the gold standard
Starting point is 01:00:25 so so i so i yeah i i might i might um i might just try and explain it in a different way senator the gold standard for science is contextual uh and so when there are new treatments to be determined absolutely there is a preference for a placebo controlled trial so you can you can uh can a control arm with an intervention arm and that way you're able to remove a number of the confounding factors but also able to demonstrate both the risk and the benefit of that treatment. When there is an established treatment for which there is not only demonstrated efficacy in terms of preventing the vaccine, preventing the disease and the consequences of the disease but also decades of real-world evidence on the safety and the positive risk benefit analysis, the lack of an ethical basis,
Starting point is 01:01:14 for a placebo-controlled trial where, as I say, there is an accepted and efficacious treatment for a significant disease with significant morbidity. That cannot be described as gold standard. Well, it's being touted by some as the world's worst answer of all times, but at the heart of it is the question. And that question is being asked by Senator Alex Antick in Australia, and he joins me now. It's my honor and pleasure, Senator Anteck to have you on the high wire. Thank you for joining us. Yeah, thanks, Dill. Thanks for having me. Just so I get some context now, because this exchange has gone absolutely viral worldwide. It was massive here in America.
Starting point is 01:01:57 But what was this hearing? Was this a health hearing? Like, why were we in this hearing to begin with? Yeah, so, well, Del, this is where I'm coming from today is the Australian Parliament here in Canberra in Australia. And those hearings happened a week and a half, a couple of weeks ago in the Senate, which is in this building. They're routine hearings. We call them Senate estimates here. And what they're designed to do really is allow people like myself, senators, to ask questions of bureaucrats, public servants, about how they're spending our money.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So the range of topics, it really is limitless. And of course, the people involved in that exchange were public servants from our therapeutic goods administration, which is effectively equivalent to your FDA. And look, I mean, there was no set hearing in terms of the topics. There was no set agenda. But all topics are on the table. And they're very good hearings from that point of view. They're very frustrating hearings from the point of view of there are limited windows of time.
Starting point is 01:03:02 So unlike a court setting or maybe a longer hearing. hearing, a select committee type hearing, you will get longer periods of time to cross-examine and to get to the bottom of the information. So it's not difficult, particularly if you don't know the answer, to do what you heard in that clip a couple of times, which is I'll take that on notice. I guess the frustration from my point of view there is these are injections that we're giving to almost every child in the country multiple times, as we all know. The rates now, I think, are dropping, I have to say, since COVID, the rates of the childhood immunisation schedule are dropping, but it's still something in order of 92 to 99% of Australian children
Starting point is 01:03:39 are subject to the childhood immunisation schedule. And I can't even get answers in some instances on the spot as to the extent of the number of injections that are being given or indeed to the number of antigens that are being loaded into kids full stop. So it's a frustrating process, but it's an important one. And I have to say, really, those questions are largely inspired by the work that's being done in the United States. So, you know, I'd say to you and to the Maha movement generally, it's having a massive, massive ripple effect around the country. The response to that in Australia was entirely surprising as well. I have to say, we, you know, we find now that people in Australia are starting to put their ear to the ground and ask questions. That's all we're talking about.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Asking questions. Tell us what you're doing and tell us what you're doing to our kids. It was really, I mean, I have to say, I have not seen even an American senator or congressperson ask that direct a set of questions, and they should be very easy answers. It's amazing that it starts out with that's a very difficult answer. How is that difficult? We, you know, you can't say, I mean, and look, they're making the same argument we see being made, which is, well, if there's already a product on the market, yada, yada, yada, we can't do this. But how many placebo trials have been done? That's all you're asking on the existing, have any been done in the existing vaccines. Were there any done now that you're using other vaccines? And, you're using other
Starting point is 01:05:01 How about those previous ones? Like just in general, when did you do placebo trials? They don't mention one. They don't bring up a single one. And, you know, so before I sort of, I've gotten curious. Why, what is it that inspired you to ask such clearly stated questions? Because I think you're the first politician in the world to ask the most obvious questions known to man. Where is it coming from? How did you come up with that question? That's staggering to hear that. I mean, these are very, very, I mean, you know, it's, it's, I'm glad they are being asked now, I have to say, because they're questions that have bothered me for a very long period of time. I think there are two things out of this. The first thing is the COVID period, generally. Many of your viewers will have, will recall the scenes they saw coming out of Australia during the COVID period four and five years ago.
Starting point is 01:05:54 And, you know, really in many instances, it was as bad as it looked. I mean, people will remember the scenes coming out of the city of Melbourne with lockdowns, and police on the streets. I myself ended up in one of these infamous METI hotels that Australians broadcast across the world in my own home state of Adelaide in South Australia for two weeks after coming back from this very building, this very office because I was effectively denied a visa
Starting point is 01:06:21 to coming home to my own home state inside my own country, if you don't mind. So the lessons of COVID, I think, are ringing true in my years. Certainly it was a big turning point for me in terms of asking questions. about this entire industry. The second thing is the Maha movement. I mean, I think credit has to go to Secretary Kennedy,
Starting point is 01:06:37 to yourself, and to the many, many other people, Jay Batachara and all the others that are involved across the board for simply asking these questions. We went from a period five years ago when someone like me wouldn't ask those questions, frankly would not ask those questions at all for fear of being labelled this, that and the other, to a point where they are now being asked
Starting point is 01:06:57 in the most powerful building in this country, the Australian Senate, and sent it. And I think credit has to go to my half of that. Wow. And I think I really want to say that I appreciate that. I hear that. And I hope our audience hears that because at times you think, are we, you know, are we really moving the needle? Clearly, as I've said, this is on the other side of the planet. And the needle is moving. When you were getting that response from Dr. Anthony Lawler, was that the response you were expecting? Did you think you would get more data less? Like what was it like to hear that response to very clear obvious questions?
Starting point is 01:07:36 Yeah, look, I mean, I think so. And I think to a certain extent, you know, those of us that have been doing this job for a while have become, I think, familiar with the responses we get from bureaucrats generally, which are to try and answer what they can on the spot and anything that's contextual or controversial is taken away and responded to another day. They're quite entitled to do that, I should say. The point I would make in this instance is this is not an insignificant. program in Australian terms. This is an extraordinarily front-facing public profiled, you know, immunisation schedule, which really the answers, I think, should be, you know, coming off the top of the hat. So look, I had heard those arguments before. I mean, the other, argument, I think, that was that placebo-controlled testing, whether it's the gold standard or not,
Starting point is 01:08:22 is contextual. And, of course, it relies on this argument that's been used so many times before that it would be unethical to have a control. group of children that aren't vaccinated in order to test it. Of course, the flip side to that is whether it's ethical or not to continue to roll out therapeutics and pharmaceuticals, which have not been through that process in the first place. So look, I think we have heard these lines before. And, you know, someone who's followed this movement fairly closely over the past few years, you know, I was familiar with the fairly recent Henry Ford study, which I asked about as well. You know what? We have that clip. We have that clip. Let me go ahead and play that. I'm glad
Starting point is 01:08:59 you brought it up. Let's take a look at this. September 2025 in the United States Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Government Affairs. A report was produced to that committee. The Henry Ford Health Study, it's a study that found it as unpublished retrospective study comparing health outcomes in 18,000 odd children born between 2000, 2016 and just under 2,000 were unvaccinated, 16,000 were vaccinated. And it showed that vaccinated children had a statistically significant. rates of chronic conditions, three times atopic disease, four times just over asthma,
Starting point is 01:09:35 five and a half times neurodevelopmental disorders and 5.96 of autoimmune, to name a few. It's pretty concerning stuff. The question, though, is the TGA aware of that study and in outcomes between vaccinated and unvaccinated children? And if so, have there been any internal reviews or assessments of its methodology and preliminary findings? I'm aware that it's been commissioned by a non-profit vaccine safety organisation called the Informant Consent Action Network. The motivations and methods of these groups are not always clear or transparent to external review or critique of articles or reports. I also note that it is an unpublished draft currently, so we're not really in a particularly strong position to assess that. I would say also that in line with our pharmacovigilance practice, we do incorporate signals from a variety of sources, our adverse event reporting, discussions with health professionals, conversations with other regulators, publications in peer review journals.
Starting point is 01:10:43 And indeed, we do maintain an open eye to even unpublished drafts from nonprofit advocacy organizations. I mean, first of all, I want to ask you a question. Did he know that you were going to ask that question? Do you submit questions ahead of time? No, so they don't know the questions that are coming. To be fair, I mean, of course, it's a broad portfolio, and there's lots of different things that could come up. So, no, he didn't, and they're all just off the cuff.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Well, so then right there, first of all, the fact that he knows about the study is huge for us over here to see that it's reached that far. He does another question is coming, and he knows the name of our nonprofit, which inspired Henry Ford to conduct this study. I'll just say in defense of what he's saying, we had nothing to do with the study other than challenging them
Starting point is 01:11:33 and saying prove us wrong. And this study obviously does not prove us wrong. It proves at least in its unpublished version, as we're looking at it, very, very damning numbers for the vaccinated, very scary as you describe it. So again, you know, where is your information coming from that you had access? to the Henry Ford study and, you know, that inspired you to bring it up in this meeting.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah, well, I think once again, probably the other thing that I missed out of the sort of the series of points about how we got to this point is Twitter, I think X. I mean, I think, frankly, that has enabled the strong flow of this information into the, into the semi-mainstream, if you like. I mean, this is not the sort of stuff you see in Australian newspapers. I can assure you, The Australian newspapers and the Australian media over here do not report these stories, although they should, because it's, in my view, very significant. And I was incredibly disturbed by the findings of that. And of course, we run through all the usual businesses about, well, this is unpublished.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Well, of course it's unpublished. Who's going to publish it? That's the very point we're trying to make here. We've got to get to the bottom of these and get people talking about it. So that's where I get, I mean, I get a lot of my information through. And I follow what's happening in the US through those, you know, sort of sectors. And that's the importance of free media. Another thing that's under threat in this country.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I say digital rights are under threat. And the Henry Ford study and the movement of it proves that. So I'm curious, Senator Ante, did you see an inconvenient study, the film about the Henry Ford study? Look, Dill, I have seen it. And I have to say, it's a great film and a sort of a real, I think a difficult watch, I'd say. honestly, I, you know, I felt so, you know, concerned and so, I guess, you know, lionized to try and do more and try and ask more questions after watching it.
Starting point is 01:13:28 But it is difficult. It's difficult to understand how these questions haven't been asked sooner and how come it is we haven't got to the bottom of it. But I think it's a fascinating insight behind the curtains peek into the study and what it's shown us. Do you, I mean, are you aware, are there people watching it in Australia? Is this film moving around in Australia? circles there too? Yeah, look, it is. There are certainly people in Australia that are interested as well. I mean, one of the things that I've been really quite amazed by after those hearings in the Senate has been the amount of correspondence I've had, mainly from mums, I have to say,
Starting point is 01:14:04 about asking the questions and relaying their own stories, are very similar to the stuff we saw in the movie, I have to say. And that was a surprise. I mean, I expected that, you know, the usual suspects would start pile of it. on online and the emails would come in from disgruntled doctors. But that actually was not the experience. I've had a lot of correspondence from a lot of doctors as well who are really, really, really concerned about the issue
Starting point is 01:14:30 that's being portrayed in the film. So I think it has moved around a lot in Australia. You know, it's hard to tell because you don't know what other people are watching. And that's part of the problem is you only know this stuff when people reach out to you after something like those hearings. And you find out that a lot of people are thinking the same way. But once again, I think the credit has, to go back to this movement. I think the Maha movement, I think it really has given people
Starting point is 01:14:54 social license to feel like they can ask questions about things that that bothered them in the back of their minds about their own scenarios, their own family and their own health care for a long period of time. When you, you know, as someone that's in politics right now in this, I mean, I think this is the most time, you know, important time in my lifetime. We've never seen freedom of speech under threat the way it is. We were censored clearly during the COVID lockdowns. We were run through a battery of experiments that had, you know, little to no basis in science. We now know social distancing was a construct that was simply made up, as was described by Tony Fauci in congressional hearings that just kind of came out of nowhere. I'm sure you're aware, based on it, you are so
Starting point is 01:15:43 clearly well read on this. You must be aware that the masks, that there's no science that shows us that a mask, especially a bandana, is capable of stopping a particle as small as the coronavirus. We were told the vaccine would stop transmission. It does not. And so just to get a little bit specifically into Australia, one of the things that I find fascinating and really should be discussed is there was a great news meeting by one of the leaders of the health in Sweden on Sky News in the middle of COVID.
Starting point is 01:16:15 And he said something that struck me. They were saying, you know, what would you say about the lockdowns? They're very serious in Australia and the measures. I mean, you guys locked it tight. You had an island. You had an ability to protect an island, which was the greatest test there could be. He says, look, I think it's commendable what Australia is attempting to do. I only have one question.
Starting point is 01:16:34 How are they ever going to open up? You may succeed and New Zealand may also succeed. But I've been asked myself when New Zealand or Australia has stamped out every case in the country. What do you do for the next 30 years? Will you close your borders completely, quarantine for everyone who's going to Australia or New Zealand? Because the disease will be out there. I don't know how you're going to handle that, but that's your problem. Obviously, Sweden took a different route.
Starting point is 01:17:01 They went and said, let's get all of our young people to catch this disease, create an immunity as quickly as we can to then and keep our elderly out of harm as ways as best we could. You know, they had early on higher deaths than everyone else. Now when we look back, they were right. They have some of the lowest deaths in the world. And the point to Australia was, at some point, they're going to have to let someone fly into Australia. At some point, they're going to open up. And he's like, and I would predict, you will see this virus run rampant through their population.
Starting point is 01:17:29 They'll have the deaths. And it's really what we saw. You didn't really end up having lower numbers, just delayed numbers. When you finally opened up, the deaths were there, the problems were there, being fully vaccinated, didn't do anything to stop it. I feel like Australia is like the greatest. experiment we had of all of them because you were able to protect, completely protect your borders, something America and many, you know, landlocked nations would never be able to do. Is that, I mean, do you recognize that? Do people in Australia recognize that that was the
Starting point is 01:18:02 greatest proof of a failure of this approach that we could possibly have? Well, look, I mean, I think one of the problems is I don't think Australians do realize that enough in the mainstream. There's certainly a section of Australians that do understand that and that are watching the space carefully, you know, for the, for the Maha reasons as well. But we, I mean, in particular, my home state of South Australia was a particularly unique case because we didn't have any cases at all of, I think it was the Omicron variant, until around about November of 2021. So we were effectively free of it entirely, almost entirely,
Starting point is 01:18:36 as opposed to some of the other states for various reasons. Then the vaccines were introduced. And we showed through freedom of information, I think you call them FOIA, applications in the United States, that there were significant spikes in cardiac presentations to South Australian hospitals within the age range of about 20 to 40 at exactly the intervals those injections were released onto the market effectively. So there would be some very interesting data that came out of Australia. And you're absolutely right. We literally bailed the water out of the bathtub until such time as we turned the tap back on.
Starting point is 01:19:12 And Australia just caught up to wherever it was, except we were billions and billions and billions of dollars poorer and about at the same health point that everybody else reached up to. So I think Australians, particularly the media, who were so involved in the entire scandal and many other parts of the government and the bureaucracy, just want to forget about COVID. We have in this country, I think, I'm not sure what you call them,
Starting point is 01:19:37 the United States, we have a process called a Royal Commission, which is a very, very, very, very, very rigorous, thorough investigation, a court process, usually overseen by very good judges. And there is, we are calling for it. We have been calling for one for four years. We cannot get either side of politics, frankly, to agree to it. And I think everyone wants to forget about COVID, frankly, and to make it go away. It's really pretty astounding. We're having many of the same issues here in America, even with Robert Kennedy Jr., obviously in the most powerful position in health, I would say, in the world, thank God. But our media, you know, just attacks him,
Starting point is 01:20:15 constantly just tells the other side of the story. But it's astounding, isn't it? Of all of the things that a Royal Commission like that should investigate, shouldn't we investigate the most aggressive destruction of civil rights any nation is brought upon in citizens in the last hundred years? I mean, and I'm talking about Australia, I'm talking about America the same. Like, why are, why is it so difficult to look in this? Of all the things, a Royal Commission should be there, Therefore, it's did we overstep when we started locking people in our houses? Once we had police officers tackling innocent citizens for simply not wearing cloth across their face, is it possible? We took this a step too far. I know that's the question you're asking.
Starting point is 01:20:58 You are just a light and a breath of fresh air. It's obvious why you've gone viral around the world. I hope you'll continue to bring this pressure. We will continue to celebrate. it. I wish we could clone you for every nation, including here in America. But let me just ask you this. As you do this work, it's an uphill battle. Do you have hope? I mean, because we, it just feels like we're in the gauntlet and we could lose this battle for free speech in the next election in America. What happens if Maha gets wiped out in the next election? What will that mean for the world? But how are you seeing it? Do you have hope from what you're seeing in your bandist point in Australia right now?
Starting point is 01:21:39 Yeah, well, I mean, look, Australia is not in the fortunate position that United States is to be on the mend. We, you know, we have a very, very left-leaning government that has no interest in any of these subjects, I might say. And in fact, you know, would still, if us today, would still, I presume, say that things worked well during COVID and, you know, it's all safe and effective and move on. So we do look to United States for some hope. And look, politics is pendulous.
Starting point is 01:22:04 It swings back and forward. I think a lot of Australians get a lot of hope from what's going on in the US as a leader in many of these fields. And we have to continue to be hopeful, I think. I think we, you know, if we give up, if we don't move on with it, then we will certainly fail. So it's just got to be one foot in front of the other day after day. The thing for Australia at the moment is protecting digital free speech. Because as I said, the movement of information from the United States into Australia through platforms like X has been significant factors in people like me asking questions. fantastic. Well, I mean, I want to give a shout out to Elon Musk. I think when he bought Twitter, turned it into the X. He paved away for freedom of speech, which was hanging in the balance. So a shout out because it shows just what that type of freedom can do on a worldwide basis. So thank you to Elon. Thank you to you. I hope you'll, I know clearly you are in this for the long haul, as we all are. Please let us know if there's any way we can assist you, bring you information.
Starting point is 01:23:05 or anything like that in the future. But like I said, I just think you're one of those special people. It's brave, what you're doing. And I want you to know, as you've let us know, you have affected the world. Your video has woken up minds here in America. So it just shows as we're all working wherever we are. We're not isolated. We're not stuck in silos.
Starting point is 01:23:27 We live in a time. We do have social media. We need to use it to our advantage while we've got it. So thank you for being so dynamic and clear on this topic. It's really, really awesome. It's my pleasure, Dylan. Thanks for all the work you're doing as well. It's much appreciated over here.
Starting point is 01:23:42 All right, great. Well, we'll talk to you soon. Thanks for taking the time. Take care. All right. I mean, I don't know what else to say. When people, sometimes, and I've said it before, you've got to be careful that we get too down.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Oh, there's no hope. I don't know how we're going to get there. No one's going to listen. It's what we're doing really doesn't matter. Look at that. I mean, I just want to give a shout out right now. to give a shout out to everyone that has ever given one red cent to the informed consent action network in the highwire, the nonprofit that makes this show possible. Because without you,
Starting point is 01:24:19 we have not got the Pfizer data. We don't have the Moderna data. We don't have the VSAFE data. We haven't won back the religious exemption from Mississippi. We wouldn't be on the verge of winning back the religious exemption so children can freely go to school without being vaccinated in West Virginia, where I believe we should be announcing a win. very shortly. But without you, we aren't affecting Australia. We aren't affecting the world. I mean, if you think there's any doubt that the work we're doing here is important, not only do you have, you know, Senator Alex Antik that is clearly getting this information from us, Maha movement, but when he asks a question about a study that only exists because I personally challenge Henry Ford,
Starting point is 01:25:02 and then we did the work to make this documentary and put together the Senate, at Ron Johnson hearing so that we could be blasted out as loud as it could be the head of a health department in Australia that was not prompted, knows who we are, knows what the study is, knows what the arguments are. Folks, this is how you changed the world. I've been saying it from the beginning. And so I just want to say to you right now, if you aren't donating to the work that we're doing, then you're missing an opportunity to be a part of one of the greatest world-changing experiments has ever been. I dragged my executive producer from CBS, Jen Sherry, to help me make this show. I've got one of the directors now from CBS as one of our
Starting point is 01:25:46 directors working with us on this show because I said, I want to do something different. I just don't want to complain about the problem. I want to get lawyers. I want to sue in government. I want to make a difference about the things that we're reporting on. And look what it's turning into. So if you're out there and saying, oh, I'm tuned in. I've watched the show for a couple weeks, I hope you're recognizing this is not like any other news show in the world. We're not just reporting on the things that we're seeing. We are setting about changing them and making a difference, not just in the United States of America, but also the world. Because if we lose the world and we're the last little beacon of hope, which is getting
Starting point is 01:26:25 close to looking like, you know, what chance do we have? So for all of you, if you're watching right now and you've been watching the high wire, make this that day that you say, you know what? I know, I know, I vote with my dollars. I know that where I put my attention, that's where change can be made. Today we just saw evidence of that. You can't imagine what we could do with your help. You can't imagine how many lawsuits right now. We are turning down, like Aaron.
Starting point is 01:26:51 We have a full slate. We cannot push this too far. We can only do what we are finest and have the ability to do. So we can hold back. We're here. We're strong. Or we can say, let's put our pedal to the metal because our audience just re- anted. They just up the stakes. They just said, don't stop. We see it. We get it. If that's you today,
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Starting point is 01:27:59 there's one that not only gives you the information, but then sets about suing and winning court cases and bringing back freedom so that we don't just protect you, your family, but the generations to come. So I'll hope you become a recurring donor today. And for all of you that have made this possible, look, look what's happening. It is truly spectacular. We are connected. We are a network. They don't know what to do with us. I mean, look at what we're reporting on. We've got the Henry Ford study. We've got Dr. Peter McCullough. We've got the autism study now. I mean, we are a title wave of change. So for all of you, it's just awesome to have you on our team. All right. So one of those voices that was really all alone in many ways, I can't tell you how many people come up to me and say,
Starting point is 01:28:47 you know, before you were here, Del, there was a doctor that is the reason I didn't vaccinate my kids. There was this woman that was like all alone. She blew my mind. I was watching her videos. Well, you know, we got to give a shout out to the, you know, what was possible when they were all alone. And in this case, I'm talking about none other than Sherry Tenpenny. We have someone who has spent two decades bringing the truth about vaccine safety to the people. A maverick in medicine. A hero of health freedom. The most knowledgeable and outspoken physician on the adverse impact that vaccines can have on health. She's one of the leading people exposing big pharma and the poison shots and battling the great COVID tyranny.
Starting point is 01:29:30 Please welcome Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. I'm not really speaking against anything. I'm just pro-information and think that people should have a fully informed decision about vaccinating their children. When I was a board-certified emergency medicine physician working in the ER, I really thought that the only thing in a vaccine was a little dead or attenuated virus and a little bit of normal saline. Spent well beyond 40,000 hours looking at the problems associated with vaccines and vaccination. I can unequivocally say vaccines have never been proven to be safe. They do not keep you from getting sick. They definitely cause harm.
Starting point is 01:30:07 We're here today to challenge the premise that vaccines are necessary for health. They are doing the exact opposite. They are causing disease. When COVID came along and the COVID shots came along, it was just a natural extension for me to go, why are we injecting experimental drugs into people and young children and pregnant women? It's really important for us to keep talking about. these things. Not just let COVID be what was a bad period of time when I talk about that anymore.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Because there's still a lot of people that don't connect the dots. There's still 20% of the population still is lining up for a booster shot. The most important takeaway I want you to remember is that absolutely health does not come through a needle. Well, it's impossible to calculate how many babies and lives Dr. Sherry 10 Penny had saved with her work when no one else was there. She was one of the lone voices shouting from the moment. mountain top. She's got a brand new book that you must get zero accountability, a failed system, how big pharma weaponizes vaccines, public health, and the law. It's my honor and pleasure to be joined by Dr. Sherry Tenpenny. Thank you so much. It's good to see you again, Del. It's been a while.
Starting point is 01:31:21 It has been, and it's really great to see you. I've say it every time you come on, there's not a person's name that comes up more than yours when I'm out in the public. People will come up and just say, you know, I love your work, Dell, but you know who, you know, I didn't backstate my kids because of Dr. Sherry 10penny. Or, you know, I really first got into this to start looking at it because of Dr. Sherry 10penny. You've affected like a generation, right? And before we even get into this incredible book, what is your, I mean, even today, when we were preparing for this show, right? We've got the Henry Ford Health Study that's now out there, circular around unpublished, of course. But showing this vaccinated versus unvaccinated study by a major medical institution that could not apparently show that the vaccinated or the healthiest.
Starting point is 01:32:13 You know that, but that's huge. Then you've got Dr. McCullough, you know, puts out this incredible autism study, massive. I mean, all things that have been done before in different ways. But it's like now huge entities, huge institutions. We see, you know, the same week, SIDS, finally a case has proven, you know, know, what we all know, in the cephalopathy event, but it just feels like we are now in a position we've never seen before where the momentum, I would almost argue this, you're anti-science, if you believe in the vaccine program.
Starting point is 01:32:51 That's what I think we have just shifted that to the pro-science people are the ones that are delivering all the science right now, but you've been at this for so long. Is it just like another day, or is there really momentum now happening? No, in September marked me being involved in this for 25 years. 25 years. So I've been beating, you know, across the country, giving interviews, giving classes, teaching things around the world, all kinds of podcasts and books and different things. Back in the day, I've been doing this long enough that we did, we did cassette tapes and DVDs
Starting point is 01:33:26 that we were sending out to people. So, you know, I've been doing this a long time. And I think that it's all accumulative deaths by a thousand cuts. You know, everything that every single person, every mom, every, the Vax movie, the Vax bus, you know, all of this has been cumulative. And I was invited to be a keynote speaker at an event in New Jersey about a month ago. That was a fundraiser. And I put together just a little PowerPoint.
Starting point is 01:33:53 And towards the end, I was saying, this has been us for all of these years. And I found a picture of a stampede of a bunch of, of. Roman soldiers like running up against the castle. And I said, we've just been beating and beating and beating and pounding against that wall. And nothing had budged. I said, but now it's like this. And the next slide I put up was a castle with cannonballs blowing through it. I said, the walls, there's cracks in the walls everywhere, not only about vaccines and autism,
Starting point is 01:34:21 but about pesticides and glyphosate and all the things that are happening in terms of food with Bobby bringing out about, you know, the food additives and the and the seeds. and all of these things. Those of us that have been doing this a long time, none of this is new information to us. But it's still new information to 300 million people out there. It was, yeah, exactly. It was information held in a very small group of people that were totally maligned.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Right. You know, just a decade ago, you couldn't have any of these conversations. You couldn't, you know, be on social media. I would say even five years ago. I think you're right. It was up until COVID. Right. And I've, you know, I've said to you before, you know, that I really feel that
Starting point is 01:35:00 there were gifts of COVID. The first gift of COVID, we pulled back the curtain and saw how horrible our government was. We pulled back another layer and saw how really dastardly our health care system was or wasn't. And then everybody started looking at the COVID jabs and how many people were harmed or killed from these shots. And during COVID, people were having babies
Starting point is 01:35:20 and they couldn't go to the doctor, either because they were locked down or the doctor wouldn't see them or they'd lost their job, they didn't have health insurance. And now that baby's three years old and they're not sick and they're pretty, healthy and they didn't die because they didn't get vaccinated. Now they're getting ready to have another child. They're like, well, we know about this COVID jab. I wonder if that applies to all
Starting point is 01:35:39 the rest of them. And they start looking at all the information that me and you and Barbara Loh Fisher and and Stephanie Seneff and on and on, all of us have put out for decades. It's not new to us, but it's new to this new audience. And we're just so grateful that people are now going, oh my gosh, look at this. And then your study and then Peter's study and it's just all, it's like we've, we've been kind of going along like this, making a little bit of ground. Now it's a hockey stick. It is. It is absolutely a rocket ship. Yeah. Right now, did you think you would see this moment in your lifetime? I always hoped for it. Yeah. But I never thought I would see the president of the United States stand up there and go, man, this autism thing is really a big deal. And, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:26 kids shouldn't get all these shots at the same time. and what about that aluminum? And the president of the United States. You know, and so, you know, with what Secretary Kennedy, what Bobby's been doing up there, you know, I really admire him. I just, every day he's in my prayers for wisdom and safety, you know, for what he's doing because every step he takes, it's like, is this a landmine? Is this the landmine?
Starting point is 01:36:52 Is this the landmine? He's fighting Congress. He's up against all of that stuff. He's against the media and ACOG and pediatrician and all of those. And the 200 million people that still believe in safe and effective. And all these people are like, what do you mean we can't get our shots? What do you mean there's something wrong with these shots? What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:37:10 And we've got to get rid of this guy because he's crazy. But he's absolutely representing us in truth of what he's known for a long time. A lot of people, you know, in our movement, and I'll have to say I'm a little surprised because a lot of people have been very hard on Bobby Wise. Is he not moving faster? Why isn't, you know, I'm, you know, I share your perspective only because obviously I got closer than many to that system. I know the cesspool he's swimming in right now. It's very, very difficult.
Starting point is 01:37:41 I tell people he's swimming in a pond with a bunch of hungry, rabid alligators, and he's only got a stick to beat him off with, you know? I mean, seriously. And we are so impatient because we've been doing this for decades. And we know the truth, but it's not how politics works. It's certainly not how the moneyed politics works of all these people that have had their pockets moneyed with pharmaceutical money and lobbyist money for all these years. And so just the mere fact that he's got the spine and the intestinal fortitude to stand up against it and stay the course. You know, I have to admit at the very beginning, I was a little frustrated too. I thought he was going to go in there with a scythe and a sledgehammer and just start, well,
Starting point is 01:38:24 whacking heads. And then the reality of it, because I've spent enough time in Washington to know better, I should have never thought that way. Then it's like, no, no, he's methodically, he's, he's an attorney. He's laying out a case methodically. And we just have to be a little bit of patient, give a little patience a little bit of grace and support his efforts in what he's doing. Well, speaking of laying out a case, you've been laying out a case for 25 years. And I'll be damned if it's not all in here. So we'll get into it. What I love about this book, we're just talking right before you came on, is that for people
Starting point is 01:39:04 like me, and we all, I think, do this. We all go, oh, I know that. It annoys me a little bit with, like, even the film I've got out there. And it didn't give me, it's like, oh, yeah, I know about the backstage. Yeah, but you really need to dial in on the details that we're laying out here because, you know, you may not have, like, there may be a new talking point for you. There may be another way that you can get through to someone that you're, you're struggling with. And in this book, there is absolutely something for everyone. And I would say
Starting point is 01:39:31 that even the most learned, you know, vaccine skeptic is going to go, oh, my God, I forgot about that study. Oh, my God, Spanish flu, right? What the hell was that about? You know, and just, and glyphosate. And it's like everything that we've ever thought about and the connections to our children's health, You've got a chapter in here dealing with it. So why this book? Well, it took me about a year and a half to write it. But you're right. That's incredible, by the way, folks.
Starting point is 01:40:05 This shouldn't take you. I mean, I guess it's 25 years. It's off the top of your head. Anyone else to research that is a 20-year book. Well, there's 250 footnoted references. And there's 63 pages of index in the back. So as you read it, if you go, man, what was that fact? Where can I find it?
Starting point is 01:40:23 it's probably in the index so that you can flip back to it. But it started here. I mean, it was the last time it was... Hold on. Let me read it. I love this because I love what it happened right here in the prologue. It leads out on May 2nd, 2024. While waiting backstage at Del Batres the High Wire Show for my interview, investigative reporter Jeffrey Jackson delivered a segment just before I went live
Starting point is 01:40:47 discussing the latest H5N1 avian flu scare. Jackson report focused on the top. section of high concentration of the H5N1 bird flu in raw, unpasteurized milk from infected mammals. And you go on to say how that triggered you. Well, and yeah, it did because I thought, oh no, here we go again, right? Because we'd kind of downplayed it a little bit because I wrote a book in 2005 called Fowl, spelled F-O-W-L, bird flu, it's not what you think, which was really about the environmental
Starting point is 01:41:17 contaminants and how garden variety of influenza viruses exposed to dioxin, increase the virulence by more than 100 times. And so I'm very familiar with 2005 in Bird Flu, and I'm thinking, oh, here we go again. And so somebody on my staff found a copy of that book, which has been out of print for a while, and said, this is really good, and you need to re-release it. And I said, it was written in 2005,
Starting point is 01:41:40 a lot of Bush politics in there, and a lot has happened since 2005. Why don't I just update it? And then it turned into a whole new book. And so, but so much happened in 2005. that directly laid out the pattern for what happened during COVID. You know, it's a template that they use. They've had this template, and the PEP Act was passed in 2005,
Starting point is 01:42:05 which they used and massacred people with during COVID. There's a whole chapter in the book called Sacrifice for the Greater Good about the PEP Act and the counter-injury compensation program that was not funded intentionally, doesn't have an injury table. All the people that filed cases with VERS that are going to get thrown underneath the bus, It's a one-year statute of limitations. And so I go into a lot of that and go into the Healthy People program that started in 1980 and what's going to happen where they're leading this up to 2030.
Starting point is 01:42:34 And so there's a chapter on the weaponization of health care and how using the Healthy People program and then Social Security and the implementation of Medicare and electronic medical records, how it kind of destroyed our health care system. So there's a little bit about a lot of things, but it all glues, together. It all glues together kind of like where we are now. You know, Dr. Suzanne Humphreys wrote the forward on the book and Suzanne, she, when she read the book, she said, I thought I knew this stuff. She said, but you bring in so many things in here that either I hadn't thought about it from that perspective or it was a different set of facts I hadn't really even considered. So I like to
Starting point is 01:43:14 kind of tell people there's something in there for everybody that, you know, whether you've been like you and I have been in this for a long time or you're kind of new to the topic, if you're new to the topic, your eyeballs are going to drop out on some of the stuff that's in there. And I've had people like Dr. Peter Breggen who read it and had me on his show. He said, I'm using this as a reference. It's just sitting on my desk because there's so much in here that I can pull out and look up and make sure I've got my facts straight. You know, what I love about it is, you know, many of these books, like it could be just from the science perspective. I think what makes you so unique is the way you weave in multiple perspectives.
Starting point is 01:43:50 A very strong spiritual life that radiates through this, but also the political perspective. And, you know, I think what I feel like I sense in this is just how many times you keep asking why and who. Like, why is this happening? Who's doing this? And what is the agenda? So the way you lay out, the way you get into the details of each event, whether it's back in the early 19, 1800s and an outbreak that took place, details we haven't thought about, and then, you know, how it all plays together, the politics at the time. And then, of course, this overriding good versus evil.
Starting point is 01:44:28 And I would say what makes this book great is it is little pieces, right? I always, I mean, there's great books where you can just sit down and just read a little bit and you get great information and say, that was all I need for today. I can think about it. And I also love that instead of just stating the problem, you have these little boxes at times, and you just give some doctorly advice on a tea or something I can do to help with a health issue that might help me through.
Starting point is 01:44:55 So it really is spectacular. And I would say if there's one book, I'll say this. Thank you, Del. Whoever reads this book, hands down, knows more than any pediatrician they're ever going to be. I think that that's probably true. I think it's true. You know, I tried to put out, you know, because it's all, there's a lot of gloom and doom in there because of just the topic itself.
Starting point is 01:45:18 But then chapter 19 is the activist playbook. So I kind of pull it together and say, what can you do now that you can take action? Because we got the government we got because we took our hands off the steering wheel and we took our eye off the ball. We just thought if we went and just voted, that's all we need to do once every four years. But we need to stay involved. And it's like, fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice. ain't going to happen again. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:42 So now if you read the book and you really have a lot of fact-oids and things, I've sort of done my whole career of vaccine education from the point of just sowing seeds. You just keep sowing seeds. You never know which fact is going to be the one that's going to land on good soil and sprout. And so our job is to keep COVID in the conversation. Yes. Because a lot of people say, oh, it was just a bad thing and it was a horrible time. Let's just forget about it.
Starting point is 01:46:08 But no, we can't because we can't. we can't let it happen again. We have to keep turning over new things like that, interview with the gentleman from Australia. You know, and looking at did we go too far? And if we analyze, did we go too far, we can't go that far again. We can't let that happen.
Starting point is 01:46:24 So I really hope a lot of people have told me, you know, I kind of think it reads pretty well, but then again, I'm the author. You're obviously a prolific writer. You've been, and I think the reason so many people come up to me and say, Sherry Tenpenny changed the course of our lives, it takes an ability to get through to people, which you do so beautifully here.
Starting point is 01:46:45 It's not super-science-y, you know, the science is there. But I always say one of the geniuses of like Michael Crichton, I don't know if you wrote Jurassic Park and things. When you read it, suddenly you feel like you understand science. It makes you feel smart. And I think that that's what this book does. It made me feel like, oh, I understand this. I get this. And you've been doing that for such a long time.
Starting point is 01:47:03 We put, you know, some of our top staff members through your, you know, basically, you know, Sherry Tenpenny University, much of it's in this book. So let's, where are we now and what do you think is about to happen? I mean, there's this tsunami of information that's coming. We own, it looks to me as though we own social media. Everywhere I look, like I said, whether it's McCullough's study right now or everything that breaks now, it is just running, you know, and watching that, I think that interview was so interesting.
Starting point is 01:47:33 All the way around the world, he's saying your information is getting to us. We are seeing it. And so the genie is really finally out of the bottle. And like I said, I feel like I'm watching the same tape. They're still using the 1970 approach, safe and effective. It's safe and effective. I just don't, they don't seem, they being, you know, mainstream medicine, if you will, they can't recalibrate to recognize that the world they're in.
Starting point is 01:48:05 And so they're falling further and further behind. What do you think is going to happen in the vaccine program? Well, I hope, like Peter McCullough said in his segment, you know, it needs to just stop. It's not like we can tweak it and make it better. I mean, when you inject foreign matter into little babies, how can you in any way think it's improving their health? That's a quote from a Dr. William Hayes from 1934. They've known this for that long, who inject foreign matter. And, you know, I think that back in 1986, when they passed the 1986 Act, I tried to put myself in the place of if I had been in Congress at that time, you know, and you're thinking about you just, we just came out of World War II and all these different things and are like, okay, we can give them liability protection for these three vaccines, MMR, DPD, and polio, without having any foresight of we were going to expand that to multiple doses of 17 vaccines to get.
Starting point is 01:49:04 give to these little tiny babies over and over again. But now that it's happened and now that people are really seeing, what are we doing, injecting foreign matter, it has to stop. I mean, like for example, kids still get four polio vaccines, even though polio, there has been no polio in the Western Hemisphere since 1991. The World Health Organization declared us polio free in 1994.
Starting point is 01:49:30 So here we are 30 years later, still when you say to people what do you think when you when you hear the word polio iron lung and kids embraces how you know from the 1950s and there's been no polio here why are we giving four doses of polio that have monkey kidney cells and and formaldehyde in these doses why to protect against what that's not even here so we're giving injections for something that they're not even going to become exposed to and we can say the same thing we can go down the list and say the same thing about every one of the vaccines and they're not deadly we
Starting point is 01:50:04 know that measles hasn't been deadly since 1963 and that measles has a virus has a life cycle that about every four years you're going to see an outbreak no matter irrespective of the vaccination rate and the same thing with pertussis so it is long overdue that we recognize injecting children with foreign matter is in no way improving their health it's not keeping me from these deadly diseases that now we have antibiotics and steroids inhalers and things that we can it's not a big And when you can get four or more tetanus shots and still contract tetanus, what does that tell you about a tetanus shot? Right. And so it's long overdue that this whole thing stops, this multi-generational myth of deadly diseases and safe and effective and protective.
Starting point is 01:50:52 It just has to stop. It's just like it just has to go away. We just have to say it did its job and now it's gone. Now it's time for it to end. That statement has been made twice today. I mean, you've said it. Dr. Peter McCullough, you've been at this 25 years. He's been at this five years at most, you know, COVID, coming to the same conclusion.
Starting point is 01:51:14 But that's exactly, it's that statement that terrifies so many people, you're going to take us back to the dark ages, you're going to take us back to smallpox. What do you say to that exact statement? I mean, you kind of covered it. What do you say to that concern? It's all about the money. You know, high vaccination rate and low infection rates does not, leads to equals, I put out this equation, high vaccination rate plus low infection rates equal 76% of children in America with chronic disease. That's what we got. We have low infection rates, but look what we got instead.
Starting point is 01:51:50 And there's a slide of a picture of a young man that I use in a PowerPoint that I do that he's sitting at the end of a table. He's like 12. It says across the top. It says severely vaccine injured as an infant. and he's sitting at a table like this, and in front of him is 50 pill bottles that were all the medications he had taken that year. Now, it's why they can have free flu shot days,
Starting point is 01:52:14 and they can give away flu shots for free, and why every CBS that you go into, get your flu shot today, because it's all in the money. You know, it's all, they can't give up their vaccine industry, because, and I've said this probably for 20 years, Dell, that vaccinating children and breaking the, their immune system at an early age creates a customer for life forever. I mean, suddenly they've all got medications they have to take for ADD, ADHD, asthma,
Starting point is 01:52:41 eczema, they got inhalers, they got all of these things. And also not only does it drive the pharmaceutical industry, it drives the entire healthcare system because you go in and see the pediatrician and now you got a seizure disorder, now you go to see the neurologist, now you got to get an EEG and an MRI, and maybe you have a special type of seizure, so you have to go as specialists. drives the entire system. Think about unvaccinated children. How many times do they go to the doctor? Maybe once a year for a school physical for sports. And that's it. You can't drive a multi-billion dollar industry when kids are not sick. So we'll make them sick and we'll give them all these
Starting point is 01:53:21 medications. We'll make them have to go to specialists and super sub-specialists and special special specialist. We'll get all these tests and all these blood tests and all these x-rays and all this stuff. that they're smart. They've figured it out. That's why they want to break these kids in an early age. We would just be pulling the rug out from underneath the entire industry.
Starting point is 01:53:41 And that's why they're fighting so hard against it. And Bobby, in one of his hearings, I didn't realize, he used a quote, and I won't get it exactly right, but he said, you know, change has enemies. And I didn't realize that that had been stated by his father, that his father had said that. And change has enemies.
Starting point is 01:53:57 And that's what we're seeing now, was all this blowback against him in the vaccine industry. We can't stop that. We can't even question it and maybe cut it in half. We can't even say we're going to give all of these vaccines but only one dose. We can't even go that far with it. We have to give three or four doses or five doses. We can't even question it because it will pull the rug out underneath the entire health care system
Starting point is 01:54:20 and the pharmaceutical industry. And that's where the blowback is. And I hope that people that are in power see that enough to just keep pushing and making it fall apart and go away. From your lips to God's ears, Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, how do people follow the work that you're doing or look up your university or things, the work that you've got out there? Well, most of our stuff is our main website
Starting point is 01:54:39 is DR10penny.com. There's no period in there. It's DR10penny.com. I have two substacks, which is dr.10penny.com, and DR10penny Walkwithgod. Substack.com that comes out on Sunday. And the biggest place to follow me
Starting point is 01:54:54 in social media is on X at Busy Dr. T. And we've gone, we're really trying to get rid of all of the, you know, the fake accounts that are set up out there. I've told people all the time, but if you see somebody that's got maybe 50 or 100 followers, that's not me. We've got, you know, 300,000 followers on all our accounts. And I would have to hire two more full-time people just to play whack-a-mole with all the sort of thing. So busy Dr. T with a little blue check mark on X. And we've got, I don't know, 230,000 followers or something, which we would love to grow. So come out and follow us out there.
Starting point is 01:55:32 We post there every day. Fantastic. Oh, and I'm starting a new thing. I'm starting a new thing. On November the 13th, we're moving our entire podcast platform over to America Out Loud. Five days a week, we will be on their platform daily, and it will go up on IHeart Radio on 3 p.m. Eastern time, and then the following day on all the podcast platforms. Congratulations.
Starting point is 01:55:54 November 13th. Very great. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you, Del. If there's only one book that you want to get to the bottom of all the issues of health and children, 25 years in the making, really, this is the book, Zero Accountability. You can get it at Amazon. There it is right there. Honestly, it's easy to understand, and there's not a question you have. I don't think that isn't going to be answered in this book. That's what makes this so brilliant. It makes you so brilliant. for that work. And speaking of the work that we do here, there's many ways that you can give
Starting point is 01:56:29 to help us continue to do this important work that as we saw today is reaching all the way around the world. Of course, one of the best ways is to buy a brick in the terrorist program that we have right now. And here's my favorite brick of the week. I think you'll see why. Well, my favorite brick of the week is going to be obvious why. Take a look at this. In honor and recognition of Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, DO, physician, advocate, educator, a true pioneer to fight the good fight, we are forever grateful for your knowledge with tireless perseverance. No doubt. Well, I just want to thank you.
Starting point is 01:57:16 We named our nonprofit the informed consent action network. Being informed is how you have power in this world. Having consent is the expression of that power. And being a part of a network is being a part of a community of world changers. And you are changing the world when you help sponsor the work that we do here, when you share the videos, when you share the studies that are out there. I think we have a still to show just how exactly the effects right now. And this is just what we can see, $40,000, $54 million requests, 2 million channel views. 25 million global views and counting.
Starting point is 01:57:58 And I honestly, when I see a scientist that doesn't, I didn't think knew who we were naming Inform, Informed Consent Action Network and talking about the Henry Ford study, that tells me that this film is probably well over 100 million views. There's a lot of nations that can't share links, so they're downloading it, sharing it with each other. There's probably DVDs being made out there, all of it. Whatever you're doing to get the story out there, clearly it's working, it's changing. changing the world.
Starting point is 01:58:26 And I just want you to think about where we are at right at this moment. Sure, if you watch CNN, MSNBC, even sometimes on Fox, they will bring the loudest experts they can that will yell about how great vaccines are and how dangerous it is to be asking any questions in the yada yada yada, yada mountain, yada, yada, yada studies, but never show you one. But instead our side, what is our study? Here's a Henry Ford study. Here's a hundred and twenty-six studies that were the basis of this study that shows that vaccines clearly have a connection to autism.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Here's science. Here's peer review. All our side is doing is presenting science and all their side is doing is screaming slogans. It's over folks. It's over. If you think that they can win this argument back, they're going to have to show up on a debate stage. It's gone too far now. They're going to have to show up face to face Robert Kennedy, Jr., across and Paul Offit, maybe on Joe Rogan or something like that.
Starting point is 01:59:29 They're not going to get away with this. There's not a kid that is looking to have children in the future that is going to put up with a group of people that will never sit down and have the debate and won't show any science and demand that you just have faith and trust us. Here's a newsflash. We've lost all of our faith. It's gone. We've lost our faith in the medical institutions. We've lost our faith if we ever had any in the pharmaceutical industry. We've lost our faith in the ability to just believe things are safe without a placebo.
Starting point is 01:59:58 We cannot listen to 10-minute explanations that should have just said from the very beginning, haven't done any, haven't done a placebo test. Yes, it's the gold standard. No, we didn't do it. Now what are we going to do about it? This is the world that we live in and it is changing so fast. So if you are still sitting there, for some reason, afraid to talk about it. vaccines, afraid to say, hey, you should watch this show the high wire, afraid to discuss it,
Starting point is 02:00:24 then you are now in the minority. You are now amongst the true anti-science humans on this planet, because all we're talking about is science. All we're talking about is the future of this species. And all we're pointing to is peer review, peer review, science, science, science, science, science is coming back. It is a good thing. And science is not a bunch of assumptions. And It's not based on how many different people will all agree to the same point. It's based on what can you prove? What is reproducible? You know, right now, Jay Botichari is saying, we don't even care where your study was published.
Starting point is 02:01:03 We want to know how many times it's been reproduced and that science can show what it does. That's how it's going to climb to the top. And that's what's climbing to top. All the studies that are showing the COVID vaccine is dangerous as hell. 100 times more studies showing that than the couple they try to push out that are poorly done to promote these products. Our children are waking up. They're watching social media. You're watching social media. So watch out. What are they going to try to do? They're going to try and shut down social media. They're going to try to figure out some way to make us all think we shouldn't have a right to free speech because free speech is dangerous. The truth is dangerous. It is definitely dangerous to the agenda that has been running this nation and the world for far too long.
Starting point is 02:01:54 So take a deep breath. Go out and feel that sun shining down. It's a new world and you are a part of making that happen. Keep doing it. Keep sharing. Keep talking because that's what we do on the highwire. And I'll see you next week.

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