The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 455: ARTIFICIAL PANDEMIC

Episode Date: December 19, 2025

Today’s HighWire pulls no punches. Del breaks down HHS’s decision to withdraw funding from the American Academy of Pediatrics and the media reaction to RFK Jr.’s bold move. Jefferey Jaxen reports on the quiet return of flu lockdowns overseas—and the next pandemic narrative already taking shape. Then, Jefferey examines what’s truly at stake as the AI race threatens to replace human labor at scale. Finally, epidemiologist Nick Hulscher, MPH, joins Del in-studio to reveal new findings from a reanalysis of the Henry Ford “vaxxed vs. unvaxxed” data—results that could redefine modern public health.Guests: Nicolas Hulscher, MPHBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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if you want hard-hitting news, if you want the truth, go to I candecide.org and donate now. All right, everyone, we ready? Yeah, let's do this. Action. Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time to step out under the high wire. Well, I'm in an amazing mood. Got Christmas right around the corner. The holidays, we're all going to get to spend time with family. We get to reflect on maybe one of the most amazing years we've ever been alive in watching ourselves recover from the stupidest event in history with the COVID pandemic. But all, the eye opening that took place, all the people now looking for the truth, the advancement of

new media across the world, it's really been incredible. And at the heart of this and at the sort of ending moment we got to put out this incredible film, an inconvenient study. I was just had a screening last night here in Austin, Texas at the Sapien Center. It was a blast packed room of really brilliant individuals. And so many of whom had never seen. the movie yet, which was sort of surprising to me, but these events are happening all across the country. And I love these sort of community groups that are sprouting up like Sabian Center. You can check them out if you're local, Sapiencenter.com. But where they're having these gatherings, I mean, you know, I think as we go into the new year, like what do you want to do?

Maybe become a part of that or start your own sort of community center, start having films like an inconvenient study and those, you know, that are out there to discuss. the things that you care about and start building that community where you're at. Community is going to be more and more important as we move along. The film is doing great. We're now over 73 million views globally, and I've got an idea of how we're going to get that to 100 million over the holidays. I'll talk about that a little bit later in the show. But first, I think it's taught, you know, we put out that film, but Robert Kennedy Jr. seems to be getting in a few last licks against the system, if you will, going into the holidays and good on him

because, man, has it got people in a tizzy? Take a look at this. Something deeply concerning is happening in pediatrics right now. Robert F. Kennedy in his continuing campaign to undermine American safety and health has eliminated funding for the American Academy of Pediatrics. So HHS says these grants no longer align with agency's priorities. citing things like identity-based language, references to racial disparities in pregnant people. So as a nurse, let me be very clear,

that language is not political. That is how evidence-based medicine works. This is the same HHS, the same Maha movement that says it's focus on protecting children's health and preventing chronic disease. This is completely ridiculous. It seems vindictive. He is actively dismantling our public health infrastructure

and our research endeavors. And while questioning institutions, and debating policy can be healthy, undermining science, and defunding child health advocacy because of ideology puts our children in the crossfires, and that is not okay. Well, there you have it. The HHS is cutting funding to the American Academy of Pediatrics. Here it is, HHS cuts millions of grants to the American Academy of Pediatrics. The move is an escalation in the agency's clash with the medical group, which is suing Health Secretary

Robert F. Coen Jr. over vaccine policy. Amazing, right, that you would sue, you know, someone that's funding you and then be surprised that they pull your funding. It really makes you question how intelligent the American Academy of Pediatrics actually is. I want to go through some of the headlines that I think make this one of the best decisions ever made. Because remember, the American Academy of Pediatrics thought that these were good ideas. AAP calls for end to non-medical vaccine exemptions for school attendance. want forced vaccines across the country. So every doctor can forcibly inject you. There's nothing you can do about. Let's go on. Face masks for children during COVID-19. Yeah, that was a great idea.

Let's make them breathe their own CO2 all day long. When most people, and I said this during COVID, were going to their offices, taking it off themselves once they're in the office, but our poor children were stuck in schools wearing it for eight, 10 hours straight. God knows it didn't seem to do very much good for their education. In break with current CDC recommendations, leading pediatrics group recommends COVID-19 shots for young children. How out of touch could you possibly be? Of all the things you could ever do, recommend a shot that we know killed children now

as far as it was just released last week, killed at least 10 kids of the 90 that we looked at. God knows how many of those poor kids falling over on soccer fields and in gymnasiums all across the world. We know it causes myocarditis and pericarditis, and we know that kids have zero risk from dying of this. I think 0.0002% risk, if I remember correctly, there it is. Zero to 19. 0.003% risk of dying, but AAP thinks you should go out and get that, and they're going to break with the CDC and continue those recommendations. And then AAP reaffirms gender affirming care policy authorizes systematic review of evidence to guide update, even though the rest the world realizes

that this has been a fraud and the science behind it is almost non-existent. They're castrating children, so AAP wants to castrate children. Consider drugs in surgery early for obesity and kids. Forget about fixing the food program or teaching them how to eat. Just drug them and then cut them apart. That's the AAP. Oh, man, I am so sorry. our government is no longer funding this great institution.

But here's who still is, Abbott, Gen X, you know, Med Johnson, Merck, Moderna, Pfizer, Sinofi, Sequeris. Now, I will leave those up there for a second because I want to make a point here. All of these little logos should be sewn on the white jacket of your pediatrician when they walk into the room. I want you to the next time you decide to go, if you really think you need a pediatrician And you're going to them for your advice. Remember, this is who they work for, a drug company.

All they are are the frontline sales representatives for drug companies. That's what a pediatrician does. I'm sorry to the handful of you out there that are really wonderful and getting into functional health, then break free, name yourself something else because I want to say this to you right now. You don't need a pediatrician. The entire purpose of a pediatrician is to begin a drugged life for your kids. That's it. Go ahead and just consider vaccines our drugs.

They want to drug them on day one of life. And now that we're removing the recommendation of the hepatitis B vaccine, which also happened this week, they're going against that. No, no, no. Our policy starts drug kids on day one. Also give them a vitamin K shot on day one. Drug them again in month three, drug them again in six months, drug them again. And if you think, oh, why are you calling them drugs? you are literally letting this industry alter the immune system, the health of your child for life

by your pediatricians because they work for pharma. And that's now revealed. What's just happened this week really is by pulling the government's, you know, curtain back and saying no more government funding. It reveals, oh my God, you know, who's really always been funding the AAP are drug companies. And that this whole government connection to HHS, which is I don't know, what is it $5 to $20 million, a drop in the bucket, I'm sure, for the AAP, was never a huge part of it. It was a part of a facade to make you believe that your pediatricians are doing the will of the people and for the government that we're aligned with HHS. No, you're not.

You're aligned with Sonofia Ventus, Merck, and Pfizer. You work for them, and you were there to drug our children and then weigh them. But guess what? I have a scale at home. So I actually, if I don't want to start drugging my kids, I don't need you. So if you really are concerned about the health of your child, don't walk to a drug pusher to ask them what you should do. Find a chiropractor, find an acupunctrist, find a homeopath, and maybe find a nutritionist and feed that child well and make sure they're drinking water without fluoride and they're going to do just fine on their own.

Stop letting the pharmaceutical industry through your pediatricians take away the body that God designed for them. You never get to meet it. They are infecting and changing that body. God designed it perfectly, and you are letting these people come in and ruin their lives and change them forever. I'm sure this is going to go viral. I'm sure I'm going to get called by the New York Times and Washington Post. I said it.

There it is. Fire your pediatrician before they fire you. And definitely don't call me and complain that you got fired by your pediatrician because you asked them questions they couldn't answer. They're uneducated. They don't know what they're doing. only know how to inject you with drugs. That's what they do. All right, that's my rant for the day. Let's get on with the rest of this fantastic show. I've got Nick Holscher joining me coming up.

He's just done a reanalysis as the Henry Ford Health Study. Some conversations on where were those autism numbers? He might have the answer to that. I'm really looking forward to that conversation. But first, it's time for the Jackson Report. Hey Jeffrey, how's it going today? It's going pretty good. I'm enjoying your rent, sitting by, and stand by here. It's nice to see the AAP. They asked for it, so they asked, and they received what they wanted.

That's it. And now we know who they worked for. It's obvious to the world. So that word pediatrics just attached to AP. This is what they do. This is what they wanted, and they're going to stay on their ground. Great. Now we know who you are.

That's right. So I want to switch into, we'll talk about an industry, some call a religion, a recession, but a major, probably the most and the largest federal priority for the Trump administration in 2025 and now moving in 2026 was artificial intelligence, the buildout of AI. And Trump so far has had now three executive orders. The fourth one looks like this in the news. It just happened. Take a look. Okay.

President Trump has signed an executive order to stop excessive state regulation of artificial intelligence. Trump arguing a patchwork set of rules could hold the nation back from dominating the competition. The order will direct Attorney General Pam Bondi to challenge any state AI laws the administration finds to Burdumson on the industry. Specifically, it gives the Justice Department authority to block state laws if they do not support, quote, global dominance of AI. The big factor here is the lobbying money from the big AI companies. They are pushing not just the president in person in Washington, but also lobbying federal lawmakers and state lawmakers

to try to have an impact on the outcome of possible legislation that is passed or considered. Silicon Valley in the tech industry, they have great deep pockets, and they are clearly wielding a lot of influence. The attitude of the technology industry has always been let us innovate and will figure it out. later you're also the enemy of the world when it comes to the creation of these foundational models and that keeping that dominance going will keep us

on top the other side of the argument is you need to safeguard our kids our jobs against the encroachment of this technology and the some of the damage that we've seen man I think I understand why this is happening but on this one I think Donald Trump is making a colossal error so proving there's no such thing as a perfect leader. It's like, you know, tossing a coin sometimes. This is scary. This is really scary. Go ahead. Yeah, and that's why we have the us, the media, the fourth estate, and this is why we critique these things. This is now fourth executive order, major executive order on artificial intelligence. The Genesis mission was in November of 2025. That was to unleash

AI-driven scientific discoveries in health, medicine, energy, which a lot of, you know, the public would say, oh, that makes sense. But this, taking away burdensome regulations, I thought we were supposed to regulate AI because it was dangerous. In fact, Elon Musk told us that in 2018. Take a listen. I'm not normally an advocate of regulation and oversight. I mean, I think one should generally go on the side of minimizing those things. But this is a case where you have a very serious danger to the public.

And therefore, there needs to be a public body that has insight and then oversight to confirm that everyone is. is developing AI safely. This is extremely important. I think the danger of AI is much greater than the danger of nuclear warheads by a lot. And nobody would suggest that we allow anyone to just build nuclear warheads if they want. That would be insane. And mock my words, AI is far more dangerous than nukes. far so why do we have no regulatory oversight this is insane you know it's a really terrifying

statement he makes there and am i to understand essentially what this law is going to do that don't trump is essentially take power away from the states override my decision like my i might put my state i don't want a bunch of in this analogy use nuclear power plants being built all over the state of texas i want some regulations and the trump administration is going to say you don't get any regulations you got to roll with what the federal government says I mean, it seems like a real breakdown in the belief system, certainly of a libertarian perspective of conservatism, which is power in the state. This is somewhere where he seems to be really overriding that, and maybe one of the most dangerous moves of all times. Yeah, yeah.

And that's a time capsule statement, by the way, by Elon Musk. 2018, that was before Chad GPT was basically thrown into our laps as we were coming out of the hardest lockdowns of COVID. Just kind of like, here, deal with this, humanity. And that was in 2022 again. But let's go to this executive order from Donald Trump, just like you said. this was to take away state regulation to have a one guiding federal policy. So it says here, it literally says it's in there, my administration must act with the Congress to ensure that there's a minimally burdensome national standard, not 50 discordant state ones. And then it goes on to say

section two, this is the entire policy. But 50 discordant states is what it makes United States unique, is that we are just a group of free people that have organized ourselves in cities and counties and states and we are united together to, you know, to come to, to work together when we need to. But this is, I mean, this is really a step too far, I think, in this space. But go ahead. I mean, there it is. He's saying it. Yeah. In the North Star of this executive order, the goal, the target, he says this is the policy, is the policy of the United States to sustain and enhance the U.S. global AI dominance through a minimally burdensome national policy framework for AI. So basically they're setting out a policy framework. There's going to be working

groups that have been put together now. 30 to 90 days are the time frames. We're going to start seeing some actual language and some teeth, presumably at that point, what this policy framework is going to be targeting states that may not fall in line with what the federal government claims is AI dominance, which is interesting. So just, you know, and you see the headlines now. They're coming fast with AI. Here's one of them here. Trump launches AI tech force. This just happened to build AI and financial projects. And this brings, this tech force is bringing engineers and managers from the private sector,

like Amazon, Apple, Pallenteer, Oracle. And this, you know, you could break this down and say this makes somewhat sense, because when Trump says global AI dominance, you have to understand China, foreign adversaries, independent groups, everybody, Meta, Apple, they're all working for global AI dominance.

Everyone wants to be that leader. So bringing these other tech leaders in, kind of bridging that gap from these private companies, which we don't really know what they're doing behind the scenes, maybe somewhat of a smart move in this massive space that's moving fast. Well, I do know one thing they're doing, Jeffrey. I know that when we needed a vaccine passport and the ability to track me wherever I went

and see how far away I'm standing from one another, all of those companies you just pointed out we're a part of investing in that and building that and have never stopped. And now we're going to take government funding, and I get it. Look, we don't want to be behind. in what is maybe the biggest, you know, technical race that has ever happened.

But this is like the international keeping up with the Joneses, right? This is, we're going to lead this. We're going to rush to stupidity faster than anywhere else in the world. Every one of those companies. And by the way, Donald Trump might not believe in a vaccine passport. But once you've, you know, ensconced these industries and these corporations, which are going to be the only things running the planet, the world's about to be whittled down to six monopolies, it appears,

that control government agencies, how far are we away from then? Vaccine passports, tracking systems, social credit scores, you know, on top. And then an AI that's studying every part of it. I mean, it's just, it's so, I don't know how we stop it, though. I mean, he makes a point, right? If you're in his position, he's like, look, good, bad, ugly, or not, we don't want the other countries doing it to us first. And there's three prime movers in this conversation.

We just kind of went through industry, the industry, the build-out, the rapid Manhattan-style project to build this thing out. But really, what's rising to the top is the safety concerns, not being addressed, really by these executive orders as they should be. And other agencies, other nonprofits, they're studying this with heads past and present

of developers of AI, some of the leaders, the luminaries in this space. And here's one of the headlines that came out of there. The safety practices are failing to meet global standards. And this came from what was called the Future of Life Institute's AI Safety Index. This is their latest report, Winter 2025. And they give a report card.

And you can see across here, across Stop, you see Meta, you see DeepSeek, Open AI. And right, the overall grade across the board, picture this is the school grade, come home, your kid has this, C plus, D, D minus, why are you doing in school? But the major concern there right in the middle is existential safety, totally failed.

D's, F's for most of those companies, and this is what led the report to say this. Existential safety remains the industry, industry's core structural weakness, all of the companies reviewed are racing towards AGI, superintelligence, without presenting any explicit plans for controlling or aligning such smarter than human technology, thus leaving the most consequential risks effectively unaddressed. And that is a massive issue. That's the big red flag, because Elon Musk's talking about, and everyone's still talking about

this. And so really, these companies are not addressing that. All they're doing is pouring massive amounts of money into that. this gets to that third rail, that third pillar that we're going to talk about. We have meta. Meta has really entered the race hard here after it's been sidelined by its own decisions, which is kind of ironic. But remember, we were coming out of the pandemic's lockdowns around 2021, 2022, and people were starting, but we were forced into a complete virtual system, Zoom calls, kids had to take classes online, everyone was online. Meta, at the time, it was Facebook,

they changed to Meta because they bet the farm that we were just going to keep going that way. Just let's put them all on a complete virtual reality called the Metaverse. Well, that failed. So this is the headline here. This is Fortune. Mark Zuckerberg branded Facebook for the Metaverse. Four years and 70 billion in losses later, he's moving on. So he's gone. So they're taking now this money. They took the losses. AI is, I'm sorry, Meta is under Apple. They're under Google and Amazon. They're about the fourth in line with market capitalization. They're about 1.6.

trillion dollars, massive prime movers. And what are they doing now? Meta raises its spending forecasts on AI to above $70 billion. And it says in this in 2025, their forecast, and they're going to do $72 billion. But now it says most of that will be spent on data centers. Here's the next conversation, which are computing facilities that power artificial intelligence development and compensation for AI researchers. Meta added that capital expenditures would be notably larger in 2026 than 2025. So they're going all in again. And that is now the conversation is energy. Where are we getting this energy for data centers? So the Berkeley Labs put together a congressional report report that was requested by Congress. It was an update

from a previous report. This is a public report about the electricity needs by the U.S. And I want to, there's one graph that tells the entire story here. This is it. You look at that strong black dotted line at the bottom. 2010 to basically 2020, not much going on. Electricity needs were pretty much flatlined. We were doing good. And then kind of out of nowhere, this like alien electricity face sucker just drops into the planet right as we're coming out of the pandemic. And look at those forecasts. Each one of those dotted lines that is not shaded are individual studies that are showing forecasts of what we might need. This is terawatt hours. And it just goes straight up exponential. How are we going to get there? Headlines like this. Bloomberg, nuclear industry,

to add 15 reactors next year after 2025 decline. Another one, U.S. I's diesel generators to meet AI power demand. It says the U.S. is looking to tap the nation's network of large industrial diesel generators use at data centers, big box stores, and elsewhere to help curb rising electricity costs and support to surge in power demand from artificial intelligence. That's the energy secretary. Curious Wright saying that. He's like saying, hey, Walmart, got some extra energy generators

line around, fire them up because we need them for AI, because right now the grid's not able to take it. You know what this, I remember when we were talking COVID, where I said, I think they had to jump the gun. We forced them to jump the gun to rush into a pandemic before they had a vaccine ready. Now we're going to watch, you know, the sausage being made. It was a total mistake. I think this is another one of those mistakes. We were supposed to be locked inside of our 15-minute cities or even better inside of our apartments and living virtually through the metaverse before they started just building nuclear power plants and sucking the Earth's

energy at 100 times what we've ever used before so that they got away with their climate change disaster scenario that panicked us all into locking ourselves in our houses. But the problem is they're not done with that process. And now all of a sudden they got to launch this, but we're going to be awake saying, wait a minute, why are you telling me to drive an electric car and you are sucking so much energy? You are making any effort I'm doing here to save my planet absolutely useless. It's all absurd. We're about to start using so much more energy than we've ever imagined existed on this planet. Forget about, you know, the fact that, you know, it might be rare earth minerals or oil or get, they're going to need all of it. They're going to be wind. There's

going to be a nucleus. It'll be everything just to run a computer. And Jeffrey, why do we need it? What, what possible benefit is going to be brought to this world that I am not already have at my fingertips right now. I mean, what are you doing for us? Someone should explain that. Show me what is this utopian world I'm going to get from you raping and pillaging the resources of this planet now, putting us all at risk for nuclear facilities popping up every other block so that you can run a superintelligence that's going to do what for us? Let's talk about those 50 discordant states that Trump's executive order talked about. And one of them is Florida, and Governor DeSantis there, he really front ran in Florida the entire nation out of the pandemic with their leading laws and legislation and statements and not locking down, basically not forcing the vaccine.

So we have a roundtable that DeSantis put together after Trump's executive order announcement. And this is what he had to say. Take a listen. This rise of artificial intelligence and whether we should just turn over our destiny to these big tech. companies or whether we the people should have something to say about how this develops and how you're protected from harms and whether that's you know as a utility rate payer not having to pay for a data center or whether it's a parent knowing that there's going to be protections for children I think a lot of people you know have a lot of concerns about some of the things that that

could be on the horizon and so we want to approach this in the state of Florida a very intelligent way so we recently proposed a bill of rights for Floridian vis-a-vis artificial intelligence. And you know, some of the things that we've been, you know, trying to think about is just, you know, if we went back 15 or 20 years, there may have been some things that policymakers probably could have done better about the rise of social media, about some of these other things. You know, they gave really significant protection in Congress

to all these tech companies with this Section 230. You know, it's had implications. And, you know, you can argue that there were good things that came to that, but clearly there were bad things about that. things about that. But I think the one thing we learned is just say like, okay, you know, let them do their thing and that's all that's going to matter. Yeah, that just, that really hasn't worked, right? And so we're all, you know, about technologies that can enhance our experience as Floridians and Americans and as human beings. But what we don't want to do is be subsidizing

or put a thumb on the scale for technologies that are going to supplant the human experience or or to try to take over things that, and you'll even hear some people say, oh, you know, the AI is going to run everything. We're not even going to be able to control it. No, that ain't working. You know, we the people are in control of our own destiny. I'm going to make a prediction right here, Jeffrey. This is setting up for a showdown.

There's a line that has just been drawn in the sand, I think, between J.D. Vance and Ron DeSantis. I think Ron DeSantis is making a very interesting play here, and I think he means it. I've watched this guy through COVID. I've watched him on the issues that we care about. I love where he's at. I love how he has supported Joe Latipo. But, you know, I love J.D. Vance, too. He's been great in there and many things.

But I think Ron sees this is going to be the line of the sand. He is going to, in the Republican, you know, in the race for the next Republican to run for president, obviously we know J.D. Vance can be a front runner there. But I think Ron DeSantis is going to make a bet right here. I'm going to bet that America is not too psyched about power. and the companies that you have worked with and your desire to have robots and AI running this world. I'm going to run for the natural people

and the natural health of people. It's going to be a very interesting, I think, showdown on that. And I think a lot of us in this movement are going to feel very divided in that space. I'm putting that out there right now. We'll see if we're right. Yeah. Let's look at this bill of rights from Florida that's happening.

And you go into the bill of rights, they talk about protecting children from the chatbots, giving them you know anything more medical advice to driving some of them to suicide sadly keeping our our data from being taken copyright but you go down to the data center piece there's actually a data center piece in here and you can see it it says i'm just going to run through on protect rate payers remember a lot of these states that are bringing these data centers in it are making the citizens pay for this electricity usage by upping their their bills protect uh local control protect florida's water resources data centers use massive amounts of water

and that those pull from the public as well, protecting natural resources in Florida. So that's something that, you know, it seems to make sense in every state that they should be having these because these data centers are now really aggressively being put up, and the nuclear power plants to power them are also being put up alongside them.

So it makes somewhat sense that we should have some type of safeguard mechanisms. Bill Wright seems like really just a common sense measure. Well, I mean, I feel like the Donald Trump right now today, I have to say he's been amazing. You're going to be free to, you know, decide whether you want to vaccinate and be free to have sovereignty and control over your own body and the bodies of your children all inside of a prison run by robots. That's, that's great. Wait, one step forward, like a thousand steps back. I'm going to be harsh on this one. I do not like where this is going. I have real concerns. And we're going to keep in deep, dive you deeper. I'm looking forward to next year. I'm just sitting here thinking, Jeffrey, we're going to dive deep in this AI thing because. because it's obviously going to affect our health that's going to take over our health system.

It's going to be a part of everything in our lives. I see the benefits. I've seen the benefits of a lot of things in this world. Unfortunately, governments and military rarely ever seem to make the benefits the best part of or the greater majority or body of what they do with new technologies and ideas. It usually looks like it's designed to control us. And this one's going to be better at that than anything we've ever seen. Yeah, and Del, I want to get into an investigation now.

They're working on it all week, sitting here, looking across the pond to the U.K. going, hmm, that's interesting that's going on, and that probably has implication of what's maybe going to happen in America as well. And that's the flu season in the U.K., before we get to the flu season, I want to talk about a doctor's strike that's happening in the NHS that's in the U.K., that's their health system. Doctors are not happy, they're overworked, they're underpaid, and they're trying to strike, and it looks like they may start to do that. in England to strike after they reject governments offer.

Our government's basically saying, we're not going to bend to your strike. We're not going to bend to what you're calling us out for. So just keep working. So in the midst of all of these talks over the last couple of weeks, this happens. Take a look. All right.

It's been called the Flunami. The United Kingdom is being plagued by an unprecedented wave of superflu. Lockdown and mask madness is back with a vengeance, but this time it's over flu. They've described the new mutated straight strain as a super flu which is hitting people harder and lasting longer. NHS bosses say they're facing a quote, worst case scenario.

2,660 cases of flu in England. Let's try and put that into some form of context. It is the highest that we have seen at any time, this time of year at all. The Health Secretary West Streeting said it's left the health service facing a challenge unlike any. unlike any it has seen since the pandemic. Health authorities there are looking at introducing mandatory mask wearing in hospitals to help tackle the spread of the virus.

To help prevent the spread in many settings, it's a return to masks. I think it's a necessary thing they have to do. Please do wash your hands, wear the mask, because then you're going to stop the spread and hopefully reduce the pressure that is being put on services. you've got to be kidding me oh my god we're so soon so soon really we got to do this again what how many thousands of lessons did we not learn the last time we did this and the flu oh my god the headline should be you know rapid and massive drop in IQ points being discovered in the

UK yeah throughout the UK leadership so yeah this These are the headlines we're seeing, and this is what really brought us over to the UK going, what's going on here? This is one from Telegraph. Schools go into lockdown as flu sweeps nation. You go in here, it says schools have gone into lockdown to stop a mutant strain of flu, spreading throughout classrooms, and a move reminiscent of the COVID pandemic. Teachers have ordered firebreak, school closures, and canceled scene assemblies. But to the Telegraph's credit, they do in a couple paragraphs down say this. The closures come weeks after the COVID inquiry found that closing schools during the lockdown, brought ordinary childhood to a halt also talked about mental health issues and all the other

things that it brought about learning difficulties everything here's another one as flu cases spike is it time to start wearing masks again so nothing was learned as if in the UK the COVID pandemic was was sunshine and roses and we're going to do that every time there's any type of flu situation let's talk about this this flu outbreak this this terrible terrible situation that's going on there let's go right to the data So past the fear, past all of these issues that the media is going to tell you. And let's go to the UK's health security agency. This is their influence of tracking.

This is their official numbers. And I'm going to go to this chart here. These are the influenza positivity by seasons. And this is from what's called the respiratory data mart. This is their surveillance network. All hospitals send in positive flu results to this. Some general practitioners do as well. So these are the actual numbers they're testing on the street, on the ground.

You can see here that dark black lime that is right now, that is this year 2025, 2026, and we're kind of doing what every other season did. We're moving up coming into January and February. And you can see those gray lines are what the other seasons were starting around 2019, 2020. You can see there's a long way to go. So that's interesting, but let's continue looking throughout this data from the UK. Now here's another, this is from the Royal College of General Practitioners, the RCGP. This is a chart. These are basically the consultations. So for the Americans watching, that's when

people go to their doctor, their primary care physician and say, think I got something. I have something called an I-LI, an influenza-like illness. So it's not test-confirm influenza. You just have the symptoms. Could be anything. It could be COVID. It could be a flu. It could be just a head cold. Now let's look at those numbers. These are per 100,000. In that black line there, you can see again. So they're currently, like, if I'm looking at that, it looks like they're about 20 per 100,000. And they're saying high was back in 2017, 2018, where they're somewhere nearing 56 per 100,000. So certainly right now, not a moment to be panicking.

You're not even at your high level. Right, right. By their own grading scale, it's just peaking into medium. Just peeking into medium, right? We're just past low, getting in the medium. And so looking at that chart, can you see surge anywhere? Can you see racing towards records, worst case scenario? I don't see it, but let's keep going.

Here's another chart. Here's the ICU, the intensive care unit. Okay, go to the hospital, you do have something pretty bad. Let's put you, it's admit you to the ICU. How many people are having that happen to them? Well, we're still in the low category. There's the dark, there's a dark line again. We're in the extremely high end of low.

Everybody panic. So let me understand this. These documents are being put out by the government. We didn't put these graphs together. This is actually what the government is saying, this is why you should be panicked. We're at the super extremely dangerous high side of low. These are the government's own numbers.

This is directly from the report. Anybody, it's UK.gov, anybody can go to this website and check these numbers out. Let's read the main point from this paper that literally says influenza activity increased, like it always does, and is circulating at medium levels. Whoa! Not surging, not racing towards a threshold, medium levels. Those are the government's own words. Everybody get a dive, run for cover, mediocrity is on its way.

A medium-powered virus is coming around the corner. Average is coming to get you this holiday season. We're going to die of average. We're going down. All right. So I want to also point to something. So in about 1998, according to this chart here, they changed the level of what is called an epidemic. Now, notice in the media, you never heard.

heard the word epidemic. They purposely didn't use that word. Why? Well, because it hasn't reached an epidemic, not even close. So you can see this chart here from about 1980 to 1998, the epidemic activity level for the government to call an epidemic for a flu. It was over 400 cases per 100,000,

and that's to the general practitioners, the Royal College general practitioners. And then you see around 1998, 1999, they changed that. They halved it. epidemic activity level is about 200 or more per 100,000. And remember that graph you pointed out, right now in the UK, they're not at 400, they're not at 200.

They're at about 20 per 100,000. Wow. Now, hold on to this graph because this has just taught me something because I keep saying to people, I mean, epidemics happen like, you know, once every 50 years, you know, or, and in this case, you see, that was the case. You had one in 1990 you could have called an epidemic, and Bennett was just like dead forever unless if we can lower the bar down to where it usually peaks,

then we can make money off of an epidemic every year. And they can't even get this year to fit the lowest level they've ever had for an epidemic. Be terrified. We're the upper ranges of low. And so this brings us to how we started this conversation. the NHS, their help system, well, it's swamped from mediocracy. Why would it be swamped from an average, a medium flu season, according to the government's own words? Well, it could be this.

Let's look at the British Medical Association's own website, and they looked at medical staffing in the NHS. And what do they talk about? Do they talk about surging flu? You know, they talk about this. They say the NHS has a chronic workforce crisis driven by years of inadequate workforce planning, lack of accountability for workforce issues, and recurrent failure to value and invest in staff. Without action to better train and retrain the doctors, the NHS needs, staffing levels will continue to fall short of demand, further impacting working conditions and waiting lists

and care quality. So this was a crisis that's been created by bad leadership, bad government policy, and you can see this staffing report they show. Of all of those countries, if you look at practicing doctors per 10, per 1,000 inhabitants in the UK and England. And you can look at the bottom there, United Kingdom, England. The second you say, I want to be a doctor and you start taking a paycheck, you're at a disadvantage. You're already swamped just by working as a doctor. You are swamped. That's the nature of medicine in the UK. And so what's the government doing? Are they listening to the striking people, the doctors saying, you know, we need more doctors? No, they're doing this. Doctors strike during flu outbreak would be

Reckless, says Keir Starmer. That's BBC News. He's saying, you shouldn't worry about this strike because we have a flu, don't you know? And it's surging. So don't you strike. But to their credit, let's go to the conspiracy theory rapper. Is it possible? You're about to have the doctors all strike, you know, across your country. You know what? If we screen flu, lock our schools down, destroy our education system, make people wear masks, maybe the doctors won't. strike? Well, the British Medical Association appears to be on that same beat. This is what they put out. BMA calls on the health secretary to focus on securing a deal to stop the strikes rather than scaremonger in the public. Says this, quote, it is horrible for anyone to be

suffering with flu. We are not diminishing the impact of that, but Mr. Streeting should not be scaremongering the public into thinking that the NHS will not be able to look after them and loved ones. So this is this is a divide that we like because the BMA is standing up for what it should be. It's doctors. And I want to talk about America now. In this moment, let's just take a breath here. Jeffrey Jackson, Del Beechfeyer, aligned with the BMA in the UK for the first time in history. I'm with you on that. Let's cut the scaremongering on the flu here, everybody. Right. And that could have been every year since we started reporting. We could say that same headline. Let's stop the scare monitoring in December here. Let's stop us. So typically that these

things start to move over to the United States. We're seeing some hints of headlines in the United States, but I want to remind people that Vinay Prasad, he's the head of the center at the FDA, Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. And remember the memo that was leaked to the public, I want to remind people just a couple weeks ago what that memo said about the flu and the flu vaccine, because when you see this scare mongering, the funneling is directly into the one-stop shop of get your vaccine. This is what Vinay Prasad, the head, basically the head regulator over vaccinations, had to say about the flu shot. He said, we will revise the annual flu vaccine framework, which is an evidence-based catastrophe of low-quality evidence, poor surrogate assays,

and uncertain vaccine effectiveness, measured in case-control studies with poor methods. We will reappraise safety and be honest in vaccine labels. So he's basically saying, saying our flu vaccination regime is a mess. It's a disaster. It's unscientific. The data is not there. Not only do we need to revise the vaccine labels to alert the public, we need to revise the whole scientific process. So if the flu comes knocking on the door in America, remember what Venei Prasad said when they start really pushing this flu shot, we have to question these conversations if this comes. You know, as I sit here and just watch how that just all formed is a conversation. And I was just thinking to myself, what a breath of fresh air it is that

as soon as we see something going down in UK, we're used to as far as health, it's coming here. We're going to get the same scare tactics. It's going to be, you know, pharma has its fingers in the entire globe in every country. And to see that we are just not reacting the same way, that we actually have a breath of fresh air. We have new thinking, new minds, real questions, real science, finally inside the government of the United States of American side of the HHS, FDA, CDC, and how important it is for a nation to have its sovereignty, that it can break free of the global stupidity. And I think about what Donald Trump is doing with this AI thing, you know, when you think

of the genius of us having sovereignty as a nation, also having sovereignty of the states, it's the same thing. Other states are allowed to make, you know, bad decisions. You can move. You can move somewhere else. But when the federal government decides to just rein what may be a stupid idea upon everyone, there's no escape, there's no getting out of it. You are stuck in the system.

And right now it is clear that Silicon Valley and these power brokers of AI have captured the mind of our government right now. And, you know, it's disturbing. It's disturbing that we would ever make a choice to override states. I see why he's doing it. He wants us to be, you know, how are we going to compete with China that's going to be? all aligned on AI. How are we going to compete with socialist nations that do exactly this? They're going to have 100% of their tech geniuses all working towards the same goals together to rule the world. And Trump wants to be a part of that. But it could be to our detriment.

It's going to be very interesting to watch. And it's going to this thing, now we thought it was moving fast before. It just got the warp speed. It just got Donald Trump's bonk. Let's warp speed this new brilliant idea. Jeffrey, great reporting. You've been amazing this year. Of course, you know, all the time, but as I've said so many times, what a spectacular year to see the changes that are going on. I mean, I want to celebrate without Donald Trump. We are not seeing all the changes in our space. So freedom of choice, you know, real, real questions and science being done, AAP being outed for what it is, all dreams we've had, things we've said on our own. And instead of us just being a little social media company blasting to the world as loud

as we could to actually see it resounding now and reverberating inside the walls of the White House and our government is a truly exciting thing. So I look forward to doing more of this work. It looks like it's having effectful. We're going to the holidays. We've got some upcoming shows that are pre-tape for the holidays. I'll see you on the other side. All right, looking forward to it. See soon. Take care. Well, look, this is the holidays. We have had an amazing year, but we have so much to do. I've said it before. Next year is going to be the most important year of all of our lives. And we currently have, I think it's now nearly a hundred legal cases across this country

that are in the queue and in action as we're speaking, fighting for exactly. this medical freedom. There's hundreds of things that Aaron Siri and his team are planning and dreaming of getting done next year. And when we think about empowering that force and look at what we've achieved, so much of what this government is doing wouldn't be here. Aaron Siri being at ASIP, all of these things are part of winning on the legal front too. And I'm telling you the big case right now, hanging the balance is West Virginia. We have been winning that fair and square. all along the way, and they keep cheating, and they keep stopping, and they keep, you know, blocking us. So ICA's legal team secured the preliminary injunction in West Virginia. That was in July 25, 2025.

Then we ended up, you know, Mississippi's religious exemption for school children is now permanently secured. We got Mississippi secured, but they don't want this to go now in West Virginia. In West Virginia, as we've told you, we won just over a week ago. We won back the religious exemption for all of those kids. immediately ran to mommy in the courts, to the appeals court, and they've cried, do not let those kids go back to the school or will never be able to stop it. They put the appeals court into a panic, and now hundreds of kids are being blocked from an education in West Virginia that don't want to be forcibly vaccinated. West Virginia, again, bans religious reasons for school vaccine exemptions.

The West Virginia Supreme Court has paused a ruling that allowed parents to use religious beliefs to opt out of required school vaccines for their children. Leave that headline up right now. I want you to read this headline. If you are funding, I can. This headline is you. This is what you are funding us to do. The West Virginia Supreme Court has paused a ruling that I can pulled off to celebrate the freedom of the right to choose if you're vaccinated, especially on religious reasons. If you do not want to boarded field DNA injecting to your babies, if you want to make sure that you always have a right to opt out of one, some, or all of the vaccines, that is the work.

that ICANN is doing. And if we lose in West Virginia, it's a big one. And if we win, it's everything. They know it. This is the precedent-setting moment. This is where the wind is at our backs. Sure, we could let up. What do you think that is costing us to do there? Just come to me right here. What do you think these cases actually cost? I'm just going to ask you. Millions of dollars ICANN is spending because you are supporting us with $5 or $10 or $20 or for some of you angels out there. Yes, we have donors that give us $10,000, $50,000, and it is all going into the most important cases it had ever been. And I'm telling you right now, we don't have enough to fund all we want to do next year. Now, we could back off. The show's always going to be here. We could say,

you know, nice job. We almost had West Virginia. Forget about that case. It was rolling to the Supreme Court. We didn't really want to overcome, you know, Jacobson versus Massachusetts. That is what is in our crosshairs right now, and I'm telling you, I need you. I need you to celebrate what we've achieved and then say, I am going to make it hurt this year. I am going to make donations instead of gifts and say, I've donated I can for your Christmas present. It may not make sense to you right now, but when you are free in the future, when your grandchildren are not being forcibly vaccinated, you will know why we were here. You will know why we did this. So I'm serious right now. There is so much to celebrate, but let's not the celebration just be in vain and be futile and be a sand painting that blows away the next time the next administration comes in because we did not build enough foundations and buildings to stand the test of time. This is what is happening next year. And if you have anything left in your holiday giving, I want you to look at the track record of the I can. and the Highwire, and watch what Aaron Siri is capable of doing when he has all the funding he needs.

Please, right now, go ahead and go to the top of the screen. I'll wait for you to do this. Thehighwire.com, right at the top of the screen, donate to I Can, become a recurring donor. Pick that amount that you're like, you know what, for the next year, if this is the most important year of my life, I'm going to suspend saving the rhinoceros and the monarch butterflies. I'm going to save the children of this world from forced vaccination programs with a palatier, with an AI takeover that's coming that is ensconced and in lockstep with the pharmaceutical industry. Do you realize what is coming our way?

If we're going to stop that bohemath, we need to have stopped it in the courts and with legislation. This is the most important moment in our lives, and I hope you will take it as seriously as we are and make a serious donation today to ICANN. If you have been well funded and done really well in life, you have one of a private conversation about a large donation, call us or write into us at info at icendecide.org. We will get right back to you. We are ending strong, but not strong enough to win tomorrow.

This is about tomorrow. I hope you'll join us in this incredible battle so that at the end of next year we'll say, holy cow, look what we just accomplished. Do it by mail, buy stock, by international transfer, crypto, vehicles, gift cards, points, legacy giving. One of the great things that happened this year, beyond all the incredible legal wins and the legislative wins and the change in the government, we also delivered one of the most impactful films that has ever hit on this subject. I think it's the greatest tool.

I even think more than VACS, this film now, an inconvenient study, is affecting lives in the way we could only have dreamed. I've been on podcasts all over, flying all over to anyone that will talk about this issue. And I'm telling you, these were not podcasts we used to be allowed on. This is what that's been looking like. The film is titled The Inconvenience Study. You've got this new bombshell film, an inconvenient study. An inconvenient study. See that as quick as you can.

Oh my goodness, what an important achievement. And I'm so glad that you're getting such a wide audience. What you discovered and revealed in the documentary is mind-blowing. A study done by the Ford Medical Center, Henry Ford Medical Center, comparing vaccinated kids to unvaccinated kids. Yeah, I read about that. The film is mesmerizing, and not just that, folks, when you watch it, it's almost like you're watching a thriller.

It's almost like you would go to the movies and see it. It's so tense. It's a fabulous film. Really well done. It's kind of, it's hard to watch in another sense, because it's like the whole truth is gradually dawning on me, you know, about just exactly how vast this is and how many years we've been lied to. He was so confident that his research was going to find that vaccines led to better health

outcomes for children, that he gave you a promise that no matter what it showed the study that he was going to, he was going to go ahead and print it and release it. yet it showed the exact opposite. I was still surprised at how strong the study was. And it asked a simple question. This is what science should do. You should ask a simple question. All children, are they healthier after vaccine or less healthy?

That's it. Simple question. And then a statistical analysis afterwards. I literally watched it with my head turned because you videotape him without his knowledge from a hidden cameras, from a hidden pen. Yeah. And you record the conversation in a restaurant. I think it's a steady. I'm not going to do it because I don't want to end up like

giddy or I don't want to suffer McCullet didn't. I've never been so angry listening to a man speak that he has he's this cowardice. It's actually the right thing to do. I don't want to say it's not the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do, but I just don't want to. Why am I choked up? Why? Like I am so mad. Yeah. No. I feel like an idiot.

I'm so mad because I trust it. When I go to these doctors and you ask a question, then you feel stupid. So you just do it. They lie. They lied to us. Your film is a Greek tragedy. It's filled with the hero's journey. It's filled with Paphos.

It's filled with peripatia. It's filled with hubris and cowardice and courage and curiosity. and hope, and it's making people angry. My dad has been one of the hardest people in my life to convince of this and other stuff, too, that we relied to about, you know, in the medical complex. And he watched this film, and he texted me afterwards, and he said, oh, my God. He's like, I'm going to send this to everyone I know. Everybody needs to know this.

I encourage people listening. Share this film. Get this information out to the people. This is information that needs to be heard, needs to be seen, because the health. of her children. I have done thousands of interviews over the last 31 years, thousands. None more important than this. Well, if you have not watched an inconvenience study, don't be one of those people that goes, well, I know what that's about. You really don't know what it's about because you don't know

what a tool this film is. This is more than just knowing it's put together in a way that it's never been done before. We were getting so many people reaching out as you saw some of those podcasts are saying, my parents, my loved one, my child that's giving birth was not listening to me. I got them to watch an inconvenience study, and now they're listening. They're looking into it. And, you know, I was just on a cruise ship with my family for Thanksgiving, and I would see these families and pregnant moms, and I wanted to go up, and I try,

you know, you try to talk about it, but I just want to see, you just need to see the film. But how do you make them remember an inconvenient study? It's, you know, and it's a lot of letters. And then I just thought, you know what I would love? I would love a business card. I would love a card that just has a little QR code and the website right on it so that I could just walk them and say, you know, are you looking into the vaccine issue at all or wondering, you know, about vaccines?

You should really check out this film in Inconvenience Study. Just check it out. Here you go. I believe if you all do this, if we decide this Christmas right now over the holidays, you can buy this. You just go to the store and buy, I think it's $36 for a pack of 100. Everyone keeps asking me, what can I do, Dell? What can I do? Go to an inconvenience study.com.

Scroll down just a few little ways right there to spread the word. Shop now, it takes you right there. For $36 in, I think it's two business days, you'll be delivered 100 cards. I would love it if you would all make your mission to get rid of those 100 cards. Either put it in the hand of relatives, stick it in a stocking stuff, or if you're, you get it in time. But certainly just have five or six in your purse or in your wallet when you're walking around and you see that young family or that pregnant mother. Just walk up. You know you want to have that conversation. You don't know what to say and just say, hey, there's a really

amazing movie. You should check it out. It has to do with vaccinating babies. It changed my life and walk away. Trust me, that question will work probably at least 10% of the time, if not 50% of the time. But if you go through your 100 cards, I guarantee you, you will end this year having saved at least one life on this planet. Something many of you, I know, don't know what that feels like. You're going to save lives. So why don't you take part in this? I think it's going to be a lot of fun.

And it's a great way to drop it into some Christmas cards or New Year's cards. It's a great way to start a conversation with anybody. This is how the grassroots grows. One person, one contact at a time, and we're trying to make it as easy as we can. Let the film do the talking. All right, speaking of an inconvenience study, you know, this was done by Henry Ford. I have said this was done by, you know, pro-vaccine medical establishment. I'm supposed to be careful about how I say that because they're saying we're not pro-vaccine.

Okay, whatever, Henry Ford. You celebrated newspapers in the film, you hear Dr. Marcus Zervos talking about, I'm the reason they force vaccinate every single employee at Henry Ford Health. So they had a bias going into the study, and yet the study is one of the most damning of all times. But what if you went in with an unbiased perspective and just said, what is the data show? Well, that's exactly what epidemiologist Nick Holscher has done, and he joins me right now. Nick, first of all, you're like this rising superstar. Over night, I see you everywhere.

I have no idea where you came from and how, you know, you've sort of jumped into the space. So where do you come from? What is your educational background? How did you get in this? Well, listen, I come from Michigan. I graduated from the University of Michigan School of Public Health, got my training in epidemiology. I actually graduated two years ago.

And I was... What a weird time to be in med school epidemiology during one of the biggest epidemiologic crisis of all times. Well, listen, it's one of the reasons I went into epidemiology was because I saw the lockdowns, I saw the MRI injections, I saw it all, and I wanted to make a difference. So I went into public health school, I got into contact with Dr. Peter McCullough, I asked every one of my professors for an internship. Only one said yes, I emailed all of them.

And so I'm so thankful for that or else I would have never met Dr. McCullough. And since then, we've published now over 20 peer-reviewed papers looking at the harms of vaccines. It's really phenomenal. We're going to get into some of that. But let's start out with this study at the center of our film and Inconvenience Study, the Henry Ford, health study. You did a reanalysis. In that analysis, describe for me the difference between how Dr. Marcus-Zervos analyzed the data and what you did. Yes. Well, first of all, what we did was a peer review. We had a peer-reviewed, peer review of the strongest vaccinated versus unvaccinated

study ever done. That's what it is. And so we confirmed it was a great study. We confirmed it was already, the results are fully valid, you know, the critics attack it for different follow-up times, but you know what? They use something called Cox proportional models, and what that does is that takes into account time. And so taking into account different follow-up times, it was still, majority of chronic disease categories were still higher in the vaccinated regardless. But what we did, and, well, first of all, I'm very thankful for you, Del, and your team for sparking this study in the first place, given how important it is, I mean, you can't get a better study than this.

And so what we did was we looked at the raw numbers, right? So the original study, they did so much modeling, like statistical models, and we really didn't see just the raw proportions between the groups. When we looked at the raw proportions, it was every single, all 22 of the chronic disease categories were, proportionally higher in the vaccinated all 22 including cancer really because i mean they said in the study it kind of uses cancer as the control saying there was no difference in cancer and you're saying there was a difference in cancer yes so when it comes the rare outcomes the modeling they use you know

it's it's not very reliable and so they didn't do any basic proportional analysis but when we did that and we looked cancer was 54 percent higher in the vaccinated group compared to the to the unvaccinated children. So they had 54% more cases. And, you know, this is explained biologically. There is biological plausibility behind it. So am I to understand that, as we imagine, this Cox proportional average thing, it's kind of like it softened the blow on what this. I mean, it was a way to obviously be as conservative as you could, right? To the benefit of the vaccine side, let's just really be conservative by putting this giant sort of pillow around. it and you know take the edges off and so what you're saying is look it's a great study

and that's probably what should have been done to just say let's just let's just be as conservative as we possibly can we still see this massive gigantic signal as we do in the study which is you know I always say I think the biggest part is within 10 years 50% of the 57% of the vaccinated would end up with chronic disease and only 17% of the unvaccinated but what you did is you took the pillow off let's just let's just take the let's let's see this sharp edges for what they are let's just look at the raw ratios and there you see that every single in every single instance the vaccinator doing worse even in cancer every single one and nothing can explain that other than the fact that these

vaccines are unleashing chronic disease on our children it's undeniable you can't really in my opinion yeah you could you know get a bigger sample size and do all that but this is the strongest study to date, the original study, Zervos and colleagues. I mean, this is it. And your documentary, an inconvenient study, everybody's got to watch that. I mean, this will change people's minds who have been hyper-vaccinating their children. You know, now we're up to, and we found this also in our paper, this peer-reviewed paper, this re-analysis of the paper, where we actually found that it's now up to 81 doses by age 18. Really? 81 doses. It could be more than that, too. And so this hypervaccination is unleashing chronic disease.

Now, in the film, I had to point out, and when I first was handed this study at the dinner table with Dr. Zervos, it didn't show a result for autism. It was just, it was sort of inconclusive. There was, or it wasn't, there weren't many kids. There was only like 23. I think it was in the vaccinated one in the unvaccinated group. but you came up with a different autism number. Tell me how you went about doing that and what you found. Yeah, so this part's very, very important. So when it comes to autism and, you know, so they were looking at ICD codes, so the codes that the doctors were putting in as the diagnosis. But the thing is, is in autism, all of those other chronic diseases outlined in that paper,

including ADHD, TICs, learning disabilities, speech disorders, that all co-occurrs in autism. And so what we did was, we did was, we did. group these together into one autism related group or clinical outcomes seen in autistic individuals and when we group them together to derive an odds ratio we found that these autism related conditions or what's grouped in autism is actually about 500% more likely if you were vaccinated than not and so that's very very damning and it's it corroborates all of the previous vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies showing similar risk profiles.

It really does. The Mawson studies right about there, I think 4.5 or 6 times the rate of autism amongst the homeschool kids. Paul Thomas saw a huge difference. And then here are all, oh, so I want to talk about this. You've been saying, you've got another bunch of articles out about 12 other vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies that have been done. I think I stayed in the film, you know, five or six. And so are there actually 12 studies? Because I say this on podcasts all the time. Am I clear in saying there are 12 now vaccinated versus completely unvaccinated studies that have been done? Yes, you're correct. There's 12 and we compiled these in our autism. Here's a list of them everybody just so you know. I'll read through them. Enriquez

Why don't you read them? Because you know these names probably better than I do. Yeah, well, we've got Enriquez and colleagues, Lyons, Weiler, and Thomas, Mawson, et al. Hooker and Miller, Brian Hooker's done great work on this. Joy Gardner, he's done a few surveys comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated children. And Hooker and Miller, again, again, they've done so much work in this. But Mawson in 2025, and this one's really, I think, the big one, below Limerito and below an inconvenience study. The inconvenience study is the strongest

at the bottom there. But Mawson 2025 is very key. They had about 50,000. Okay. How was that study done? Tell me about it. Yeah, very important. They had about 50,000 Medicaid recipients.

These were nine-year-olds. And they basically looked at, you know, who was experiencing autism and neurodevelopmental disorders and other chronic diseases. And they looked at, well, how many times did they get how many times did they go to a vaccination visit and what was their risk of developing these conditions?

And so among the 50,000 children, those who went to get vaccines 11 times had about a four times increased risk of developing autism. And so again, very similar rates we're seeing here, but that one's very important. They also found massive increases in other neurodevelopmental disorders, especially ticks, ADHD-like disorders,

all sorts of horrible things and so when we have all of these data sets corroborate we we can start to hone in on causality and I think the evidence is strong enough to understand that injecting you know 81 toxic loads into developing children is causing central nervous system injury and it is causing chronic diseases neurodevelopmental disorders it's causing neuron loss that's what is happening Neuron loss. Why? What's the mechanism? So what happens is they get injected. It doesn't just stay in the arm like it's claimed. It does end up reaching the bloodstream, at least some of these toxic excipients and killed pathogens.

And they do enter the central nervous system. And once they're in there, and this was confirmed in the animal studies, when they inject them with things like aluminum, it literally deposits in neurons, and it causes neuronal damage or brain damage, in other words. words and so that is unfortunately what appears to be happening when injecting these children with all of these loads of toxins it's really amazing and so out of the 12 studies and this to your i mean you've looked all over the planet those are the only 12 that exist that we can tell so far that have done this comparison and not one of them is showing benefits for the vaccinated side is that correct not one all 12 all 12 studies. Every single one shows the vaccinated are far

unhealthier and they have higher risks of every single disease you can think of including autism, ADHD, ticks, chronic diseases such as autoimmune diseases, particularly eczema, so skin disorders, chronic ear infections, they're just riddled with disease. And it's undeniable at this point in time. It's incredible that it intelligent species would be doing this to their own kind.

All right, I want to move on to the flu. We've just talked about it. They're trying to turn this into a pandemic with everything they've got. They're blowing so much of their propane and fuel under the spark to try and get it to light in the UK. I doubt with the administration we have, we're going to have to worry about that hitting here. But I did see Kathy Hochel, the governor of New York, getting her flu shot in front of the world. Like the true idiot, she appears to be. But what is the efficacy right now?

I've seen you report on this a little bit. I'm seeing some saying it's below zero. Where are we at with this current flu shot? Because it seems to fail every year. How's this one doing? This flu shot, well, first, the latest study looking at flu vaccine efficacy was by Strzda and colleagues, or at least one of the biggest ones,

came out last year. They looked at 2024 to 2025 flu vaccine efficacy, and they got 50,000 Cleveland, and clinic employees. And they followed them for a few months. About 80% got the flu shot, that season's flu shot. 20% didn't. But the 80% that got a flu shot suffered 27% higher risk

of developing the flu during flu season. So instead of not only failing and not working, it was increasing the risk of flu, doing the complete opposite of what it's supposed to do. Wow, 27% increased risk of getting the flu, if you get the shot. Isn't it mind blowing that that's not a headline across every major news agency

and what is supposed to be a country of free press? Yeah, this should be everywhere, absolutely everywhere, but instead what we see on the mainstream media is go get your flu shot, you need your flu shot. It's the only way you can protect yourself against flu, but that's all BS. Coming out of school, you're new, you've jumped into this, you've got a pretty strong social media,

media following. What's the most shocking part of what you're doing for you? I mean, when you're like, is it how people are responding or not responding or what, you know, what do you expect to happen and where are you being surprised? I'm surprised of the amount of people that use ad hominem attacks when presenting data against vaccines that are showing that vaccines can be dangerous. So some people are under a form of psychosis or a vaccine religion where when you start to mention, you know, oh, well, this vaccine, you know, it'll increase your risk of this or it's been linked to death here. And in some people's minds, you know, they get

triggered and then they go online and they begin to just target and say, oh, you're stupid, you're an antivax or, you know, you're not an epidemiologist. But so that, that's a That's been, you know, I guess it hasn't been shocking. It's been expected based on where we're at today. But, yeah, those attacks do not affect me anymore because we have the evidence, right? I mean, we just went over the evidence. It's clear. Yeah, I mean, that's when people always ask me, like, how do you have so much courage?

It's sort of like, I've said it's like poker to me. How are you still in the hand? You've got Phil Ivy across from you. You've got the Prince of Arabia. They're all in. They're pushing so much cash. Why isn't it scaring you out of the pocket? I was like, because, I mean, I can still look up online and the royal flush is a royal flush.

And I got this hands down, worst case scenario, I'm splitting the pot, you know. So I'm all in. I don't know why I would walk with. It's how this is spelled to me. Like I hear you yelling. I hear, you know what I mean, but I don't care what it is you or think you have or whether you're bluffing. I actually, we actually have the cards. Yeah, we have the cards.

We have the cards. And it's simply undeniable. They don't have any cards. that's the shocking part. Like they can't even fake that they have cars. They can't even turn, get lucky with the bad hand. They have no hand. Yeah. Yeah. It's really. They don't have one vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies showing that the vaccinated are healthier. Not one. They won't produce it because they know what they'll find. And obviously that's what Zervos found. Right. So what's next? What are you the most excited about in your work?

We're working on a lot. We have a lot of studies coming out very shortly. One's very shocking and I'll break it here today where it's about the MRI shots and this is a case report it's probably the strongest case report ever done on vaccine injury MRI vaccine injury so what we found was in an individual 51 year old man he developed myocarditis hominary embolism neurological disturbances skin disturbances so he has multi-system long vaccine syndrome we found 3.6 years after his last shot, circulating Pfizer-M-R-N-A in what's called his exosomes. These kind of bubbles circulate around the body act

as kind of messengers. So the MRNA is still in there, Pfizer-M-R-N-A as well as in his skin. You won't even believe it. We found plasmid DNA from the manufacturing process. Again, 3.6 years after literally just placed in his skin, It was the SV-40 segment of it. It was the spike expression cassette of it.

And it was the open reading frame region. So all components of the plasmids were in his skin in what's called the Grover's disease area where he developed this skin disease from the shot. And then we looked microscopically inside of this Grover's disease area and we literally stained it for SARS-CoV-2 spike or vaccine spike and we found it. It's stained 3.6 years after his shot, he still has spike protein in his skin. And so we found all these vaccine components, and it appears they last for multiple years, and we were completely lied to.

Do you think you're looking at this, and is your hypothesis now that that was on purpose? Is this vaccine this bad on purpose, or is this just one of the dumbest scientific mistakes of all times? When we look at the evidence and the casualty counts that we've been estimating, it's very high. We now have three independent estimates actually of deaths. It ranges from $470,000 from Pfizer alone to...

Is that worldwide? No, no, this is just in America. Just in America. This is just in America. And that was extrapolating from a study by Florida Surgeon General Joel Adapo, who found Pfizer recipients face 36% percent high... all-cause mortality compared to Moderna recipients. Wow. So just extrapolating that to the U.S., you get at least 470,000 deaths from Pfizer alone,

but it ranges up to about 840,000 American deaths. So based on that, I don't know, you know, there may be some intentionality behind this very dangerous and deadly operation. It's certainly wiped out, you know, or what I would say, the pension class. You know, I mean, I guess all I still haven't, I always say, you know, I'm looking at it, but you just look at the features right now, if you were going bankrupt, if you didn't want to pay off, if you didn't want your elderly that had pensions that pay off and you wanted that money back in your system, or you'd already stolen it, how do you get rid of them?

It was really weird that this virus, in a way, targeted elderly in a way we've never seen and left children all along. And usually the children of the carriers, in this case, the elderly really, you know, got wiped out hard. Nick, you're doing incredible work. It's great watching. I love that you're teamed up with Dr. McCullough. You know, what's he like? What's it like? Give me a little bit just a behind the scenes.

What's it like to work with him? Because he is, what we see on the outside is this, what to be is super genius that can recite names and titles and things like this, you know, this incredible photographic memory almost. the most published heart doctor in the world, but what's it like working with him? Is he a micromanager or is he, you know, what's he like? Dr. McCullough, I wouldn't want to be working for any other doctor in the world. I mean, he's a pleasure to work with. He's so smart. And, you know, we kind of just bang ideas back and forth. And we should do this study. We should do that study.

And, you know, we should do this and look at that. And we've become such an efficient team at the McCullough Foundation. where we really are just cranking out the investigations left and right, and we're trying to uncover really what is happening to the population since 2020. And, you know, it's not good. But regardless, yeah, Dr. McCullough, he's a great guy, very smart man, very smart doctor, and I wouldn't want to be with anybody else. Oh, wonderful.

All right. So where do we track all that you're doing? What are your social media handles and the work that you're doing? Yeah, you can follow me on X at NIC. C. Holcher. But you can also follow me on substack. It's actually a shared substack called vfocalpoints.com. And it's Dr. Peter McCullough, John Leek, and myself. We post there every day on all the breaking public health news and all the new studies. So those are the two main points. You can follow me on Facebook if you want, as well as LinkedIn where I get attacked by the trolls on the daily.

All right. Nick, thank you for your work. Keep up the good work, man. Thank you for your courage. Thank you. Welcome to the team. I'm glad you studied and got out just in time. Another way that you can donate to the work that we're doing here at ICANN in the Highwire for next year. Next year we're going to be building the terrace. It's officially going in. We've had people visiting that put bricks on the walkway that leads us from our offices over to the studio every single day. It's an inspiration, but it also will stand the test of time. This campus is going to be here forever to tell the story of what happened at this time. When we were fighting for medical freedom, which I believe was the tip of the spirit.

of all freedom. If you are not medically free, if you don't control your own body and the bodies of your children, then you have the same rights as farm animals. We're working and doing our best to make sure that that is not the future for our children and our grandchildren. So if you want to be a part of the terrace, I definitely hope you'll do that. It's going to be coming to a close here very soon. A few bricks left, a few benches, but this is the brick of the week. This is our brick. It's the Bouch family fighting for health freedom, Michael, Sandy, David, and Adam.

We purchased the brick because we've been in this fight for 23 years. Our son was injured by the hepatitis B vaccine shortly after he was born. Took us up to two years to figure out exactly what it was that actually caused his life-threatening food allergies and other gut issues and we've been trying like heck for everybody to know what's been going on with the vaccine system ever since. I wasn't expecting to have the nurse come in and give me a sheet that needed the hepatitis B vaccine. We had already decided not to vaccinate and I thought he must need it and he must be in danger and I made the mistake of

signing that form. And I'd say change his life forever. With an hour or two like that, that's just one wrong bite. gone. When I found Dell shortly after, I had watched Vaxed, and then obviously 2017, that's when he started the hardware. He was talking about everything that we already knew. It was awesome to see somebody validate everything we understood. It gave us the power to start speaking. We did buy another brick for the terrace, put a little more on it in this case, but again, I think this is the best donated money that anyone could ever do because you actually get returns.

actually get returns. The fight we're taking to ASIP and CDC and HHS, that dollar for dollar, you get a better return than anything I've ever bought in my life. We're happy that ICANN is here to help families and give them information they need. They can make smart decisions about their children. Well, saving lives is what the high wire is all about. We're not just reporting on the problem. fixing the problem and you are making that possible. So I really, one last time, this is my last time in this live experience. We're going to have some great shows coming up and showing some

Jeffrey Jackson's great documentary work over the holidays. But right now, I really hope you will consider digging deep and helping us get prepared to build a war chest for next year. I am telling you, we do not have enough bows and arrows at the moment. We do not have enough armor. We need more to be going into this if we're going to really pull this off and win it for reals. This is the time. I keep trying to help you experience what it's like to live like Nick Holtzell or Peter McCullough or these warriors and heroes like Robert Kennedy Jr. that stand up and fight for us. I know it's easy to think that, you know, we're different than you, or that you see us on televisions or you see us on screens or we're standing at movie theaters,

but the truth is everyone is just a human being. And there are human beings that decide, you know what? I really want to approach that woman that's pregnant. I want it, but I just don't have the courage to be weird. It's going to be awkward. Or I really want to talk to my politician, but I don't know how to do that. The only difference between you sitting there and I used to be one of you, I'd never. My mom would drag me in to talk to politicians like, I'll never do this.

This woman's crazy. But in the end, you realize that's how we change the world, one person at a time. And we keep giving you things you can do. I really think this one is the easiest one we've ever come up with. So please, if you do nothing else, click on that QR code or go to an inconvenience study.com and just scroll down the page and grab yourself a little stack of Inconvenience Study cards. I guarantee you it will be a great way to enter into next year. learning how to be an advocate.

You want to be a warrior, you want to know what it feels like to be a warrior, walk up to someone you've never met before and say, hi, hey, I see that you have a family come in or you're with a family. Have you really looked into the vaccine issue? Because it was something that I didn't fully understand, and I think this movie lays it out in a way that is incredibly compelling. You can just click on the QR code or go to the website right here. Just take this.

See what that feels like. And then see if you get bolder and bolder by card, maybe like 50, maybe you actually try to have a little bit longer conversation. Trust me, you'll start finding, you know what, I actually think I want to know what this person thinks. And eventually you'll have a podcast like the high wire and then you'll be standing on courthouse steps, who knows. But all I know is the world has changed by your next right step, by saying yes to that little

voice inside of you that is guiding you right now to make the world a better place. I think it's in all of us. It's moving through all of us, but we're not all saying yes. Here in the high wire, we celebrate the yes. We celebrate the power of going through the open door, even though we don't know what's on the other side because we're adventurous. We're optimistic, and we are curious.

Stay curious. Be curious in all of your conversations with your family members over the holidays. Don't get into a place of teaching. Get into a place of curiosity. Why is it you feel? I'm really curious. What do you think? What's upsetting you about Donald Trump? What is it about Robert Kennedy, Jr.? Okay, so you don't want, you know, someone removing chemical dyes from your food? You don't, you wanted to leave lead and arsenic in the baby food and the baby formula. That's what you wanted. You're against a guy that is trying to clean up your food supply that is getting regenerative farting, maybe getting less chemicals sprayed on our food. Are you against that? You know, those are you? are the types of questions. Trust me, you will find yourself in a very interesting conversation. Go have those conversations. Get bold. Get brave. It's the holidays. And if we want to have more in the future that we are having in a free world, it's incumbent upon you to take up the

charge. I love you. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Happy Hanukkah or whatever you're celebrating we're celebrating you we're celebrating an incredible year of freedom and i'll see you next week pushing on geoffrey jackson's new documentary show on christmas day uh and then in the new year wait till you see we've got coming all right i'll see you then on the highwire Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.