The Highwire with Del Bigtree - Episode 493: CANADIANS CRY FOR HELP, AUTISM FRAUD, & “THE WORM QUEEN”

Episode Date: September 10, 2026

Poul Thorsen, the researcher behind vaccine-autism studies cited for years to shut down debate, is now facing fraud charges. Dr. Robert Malone joins Del to break down the scandal and what it means for the public’s trust in vaccine science.Then, Jefferey Jaxen follows the road to the mRNA rollout, from Fauci’s NIH inner circle and Moderna’s rise to new research examining lipid nanoparticles, immune disruption, and cancer progression. Plus, Sen. Ron Johnson reports on Canada’s Allison Inquiry, where witnesses are sharing accounts of injuries they say followed COVID-19 vaccination.And, Del sits down in the studio with Kim Rogers, known to millions as “The Worm Queen,” to discuss parasites, cleansing, and her own health journey. Finally, COVID hero Dr. David Brownstein joins the show to discuss his upcoming Vaccine and Immunology Conference.Guests: Dr. Robert Malone, M.D., M.S., Sen. Ron Johnson, Kim Rogers, David Brownstein, M.D.Airdate: September 10, 2026Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

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Yeah. Action. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are out there in the world, it's time for us all to step out onto the high wire. And when I say the world, I mean the world at 6 a.m. this morning, I was speaking live to a conference out in Australia, which was a great, event talking about COVID vaccine injury and all the issues out there. Of course, I have referred to that as the deepest, darkest vax hole in the world years ago. We're going to talk about the event that just took place in Canada that many of you tuned into. So around the world,

we are discussing the lies and deceit of mainstream medicine around the vaccine issues. But long before Tony Fauci pled the fifth, long before we were, we're going to be a fifth, long before Our work at I can sued the government and found out that there'd never been a proper safety trial of any of the childhood vaccines long before any of that. When I first was traveling with the film Vaxed and talking to people, one of the big stories, one of the big frauds that was known then was that the scientists at the heart of, I guess, arguably the most important autism vaccine study that had ever been done was a fraud or should be extradited from Denmark on fraud charges. This is a story that was everywhere we went, and I heard about how he was

having an affair with someone who's giving the money and the CDC and all of that. Well, while all of this is going on, while we're in this heyday of information coming forward from Fauci's diaries and phone records and all that we are uncovering as we go, actually at the same exact moment, Paul Thorson has now met the reality. He's admitted to guilt. Here's some of the headlines that have been out there on his issue. Danish autism researcher extradited after 14 years on the run pleads guilty to stealing CDC grant money. And they've been talked about in the news it looks something like this.

CDC scientists who evaded capture by federal authorities for nearly 15 years is now back here in the U.S. That Paul Thorsen was brought back to the United States to face justice for what federal investigators say was a million-dollar fraud scheme. Thorson had been receiving grant money from the CDC here in Atlanta to study disorders in children. Funneled more than a million dollars of those funds into his own pockets through fabricated invoices, forged signatures, and diverted bank transfers. This crime was especially reprehensible because he did, in fact, steal money that was intended for childhood research for infant disabilities and birth defects.

The Danish-born researcher was studying the possible link between vaccines and the rise of autism rates. charges against him raised questions about whether he was deliberately falsifying vaccine data to prove that vaccines do not cause autism and have nothing to do with the rise of autism in the United States. He's a dirty guy and he probably was getting paid to make that study. And there's a long history of scientists doing that. This guy was the go-to guy for all of these, oh, you know, that there's no link between vaccine and autism. He would just feeding him back what they wanted to hear and put the money in his pocket. He's 65 years old, which will probably mean he will cut a deal.

and maybe name names to where we can have more accountability in this failed system. People around Fauci, this is what's interesting. They're being tried and they're being charged. So it's going to get weird. Weird indeed. I thought I understood most of the details of this story until I happened upon a great substack by Dr. Robert Malone. This was the headline, stolen money, missing approvals, federal grant captioned,

the consequences that never came. Really an incredible article, you should definitely read it. But it's my honor and pleasure to be joined now by the man, the myth, the legend, Dr. Robert Malone himself. Dr. Mullen, thank you for joining us. Back at you, my friend. And thanks for having me on and for the shoutout. So this is incredible.

And we have to be clear. There was some statements made. I found it fascinating in a lot of those clips. they didn't mention the word autism. I think there was only one or two where they actually said autism. Otherwise, they were talking about, quote, childhood disability. So we're still on the other side of that firewall of information boundary that we've all been facing. So let's jump into this.

What the hell happened here? So this guy, Torson, he stole a million dollars and he did it by forgery. Now, we don't have. any evidence right now that his forgery extended beyond his own financial improprieties and other activities. We don't know whether he in some way, let's say, cook the books having to do with his studies or the data or the interpretation. But we certainly have- Let me just insert there, Dr. Malone, because what, I mean, what you are saying is true, some of those reports in that montage are saying he obviously manipulated these studies. You don't

You don't take on that assumption because you're like I am. You talk about this article is interesting because it's what we can prove, what we do know, what we do see. But what we don't know is whether or not he manipulated this study or not or whether if we took another look at it, we'd see something different. What we do know is what you investigated on this issue. Yes. So this is where nuance matters. And it's important to have a little bit of a background in terms of this. rather wonky area of federal contracting ants.

Which you know better than, I mean, you have been one of the few people on my show that has had federal contracts with vaccines, with drugs. It's why you're one of the number one people referred to as controlled opposition, because you obviously worked for the other side at one point. I literally have a lifetime win rate, which is how these things are accrued in the beltway, of over $8 billion in federal grants and contracts, not for me, but for for my client. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, I get this. So here's the thing. He stole it by forgery. For four years, he sent, his university is called Arhus University. He sent them invoices carrying the forged signature of a CDC laboratory chief. Okay, so this guy didn't just commit fraud. He committed forgery.

He forged a government, U.S. government initial signature. Wow. The university then wired the money to accounts it believed were CDC accounts. But they weren't. They were his accounts over a million bucks. And then he used that for a variety of personal gain. And we don't need that. That's kind of almost irrelevant, all the goodies that he bought with his million bucks. I guess a million bucks went further back in those days. Yeah, it's a little bit more back then. This is what matters. This grant paid, as you point out, for the Danish studies that closed the vaccine and autism question in the United States. Three papers,

including one in the, you know, the revered New England Journal of Medicine, I say that tongue in cheek, yeah, that followed more than 500,000 children. They were cited to deny over 5,000 claims in federal vaccine court. Those are damages that were refused based on these papers from this guy that is now an admitted fraudster. Okay. Yep. They are still cited today. Thorsten officers. all three. But beyond that, the CDC scientist who arranged his funding was his co-author. Her name is Diana Shendell. She helped write the funding announcement, and she wrote it as a this matters, a sole source award. That means CDC declared only one person on the entire globe could do this vaccine autism work. And she wrote the rules so that only that one person would

qualify for this for this award okay the cdc panel saw just one applicant because that's all they were allowed to see on one afternoon they they it was a very cursory report in december of 2001 and approved it before the day ended okay that's i did not know that i mean that is one of the things that was so striking that first of all was basically a handpicked one person was handpicked by diana shindell and You know, this is how the game gets played in D.C. and down at CDC contracting, I've dealt with them before. They are a very weird shop, and they get away with all kinds of stuff because they're down in Atlanta, away from the mainstream oversight that happens in D.C. in the Beltway. So SolSUR's contract is a classic Department of War and large federal contracting game to make sure that you get the thing.

So this isn't the first time you've seen this. It's a game they play. Okay, good to know. She was in an, the person that wrote the sole service contract, guided the award, brokered it through the review panel quickly, happened to also be in an undisclosed romantic relationship with Thorson. Do we know, was that relationship prior to this contract or after? Do we know the timing of their affair? It appears that she was in this relationship.

in the context of when all of this was being a broker. Okay, that's my understanding. CDC learned this in 2009, and what did they do? They wrote her a letter, a reprimand, signed by her own supervisor, which then sat in her file for two years and then became disclosed. And by the way, that's the entire consequence for any CDC employee in this case is one person who happened to be in a romantic relationship, wrote the sole source contract, brokered the award,

got a, I mean, this is less than a slap on the hand. This is a reprimand letter dropped in her file that everybody ignored for at least two years. Wow. That's not all. It goes more. There's more than that. The ethics permissions Danish law required for this research were never obtained.

When CDC found out, The response was not disclosure. It wasn't to go back and notify the journals. It wasn't to notify the vaccine court. When CDC found out they covered it up and they stretched an unrelated approval from the year 2000 backward to cover the missing papers that were already in print. Okay?

So they covered it up. They covered it up using another bureaucratic trick. By the way, this is the kind of crap that Bobby has to deal with on a daily basis. This is when people in the administration now talk about getting cock blocked. This is the kind of crap that goes on. This is the tricks. I didn't realize that was a medical term too or a science term, but we've now put it in the lineage. It's widely used.

It's now widely used in the administration. I find it fascinating. I never even heard about it before. And I was at a meeting of Feds for Freedom. And all these senior guvies were using this term. I'm like, what the heck is going on here? Because they're all getting blocked. Okay.

As we've said, there's no documentation that any of the data were faked. And we can't claim otherwise. What we can say is there has been no audit. So what we have, we can't say that it was faked. We can't say that it wasn't faked. We can't say that it was or wasn't manipulated. All we can say is nobody bothered to ask the question. Okay?

So I gently suggest that this is an opportunity for the likes of you and Aaron Siri. Yeah. Just saying. Okay. Now, now you understand something about how federal money actually flows. For a contract, competition is required by law. And any company shut out can challenge it. Okay.

Yeah. This is a big deal. It's for a grant, which is what this was. There's no compensation statute, no protest, no authority can void the award and claw the money back. A program scientist can pick the recipient, write the rules that make him the only eligible recipient, and choose the reviewers. There's no form in the United States government where anyone can object. This is not conspiracy. This is the way the game is played.

This is the way they play it at CDC. This is what the machinery produces when nobody does anything unusual at all. This is the standard way that business gets done down at the CDC. You wonder why the place is such a hot mess. Well, here you have a smoking gun. So your team asked me for some specific action items. Yeah. Okay.

And this is stuff that I can, can dig into. Okay. And you and Aaron Siri can go to the mat with the federal. government over this. First, the data need to be audited and analyses produced under the award have to be reviewed. You have to pull the underlying Danish register extracts, reconstruct the analytic cohorts from all three studies, and compare what was run against what was published and against whatever ethics permission existed. The appropriate body for this is the HHS Office of Inspector General with outside statistical review or GAO.

Number one. Number two, FOIA, the complete CDC investigation and disciplinary record of Diana Schindle. Duh, the full file behind the May 14th, 2009 reprimand, including any proposal memorandum, the deciding officers written rationale. Somebody put their signature on this stinker. Right. Okay.

But we're blocked from knowing who. And any grievance, the email search that produced the findings and the terms used, the gift documentation, her OGE form 450 filings for fiscal years 2001 through 2012, and any ethics office determination or recusal record. Okay, that's standard government SOP. That's what should be done, and it's the Office of the Inspector General for HHS that has to do it. Have culpability assessed by an authority outside the responsible branch. We can't have CDC investigating itself. Well, makes sense to me.

Yeah. The 2009 matter was decided by Shendell's own supervisor at the lowest available severity inside the branch where the conduct occurred with no independent deciding official. You know, talk about wink, wink, wink, nod, not. Yeah. This is sweep it under the rug.

You know, don't let anybody know about it. Well, I mean, the hypocrisy, Dr. Malone, is that, you know, and when we're talking, this is about autism. And when we're talking about autism, the biggest name there is is Dr. Andrew Wakefield, who we know had his license removed over a study because he didn't get ethical approval for that study. The guy got break to open the courts. Yeah. He got his career destroyed everything. They pulled out all the stops. And here you've got clear fraud.

Real fraud. Like a real fraud. Like, Andy never was accused of fraud. You never proved fraud. And by the way, for people... Right. The other side gets a slap on the wrist. And you have to imagine.

I mean, I'm going to breathe into this a second. I'm going to speculate because you have a handpicked scientist that does the exact science that's necessary at the time to throw 5,000 cases out of vaccine court that was going to cost us billions if not trillions of dollars. Let's be clear who us is, is the federal government. The federal government, the United States of America. they handpicked this guy, or at least somebody does,

Diana Shendell does, and then he goes and does the science. And imagine, if you're going to commit a fraud, he has the perfect cover. They're never going to come after me because I'm the one they relied upon to do the study that protected their asses over autism and vaccines.

He must have thought he was Scott free. He must have thought he was bomb-proof. Right. Because he basically had leverage over the whole system because the appearance is. Did he exploited the corruption of the award practice in order to provide cover that allowed him to defraud the government? Yeah. That's the appearance.

Okay. Now, measure this conduct against the federal impartiality and gift regulations rather than the criminal conflict statute, which reaches financial interests and does not fit these facts. The threshold question is why the matter never left. the branch. There's more. Open a human subjects compliance inquiry into Arhus University and Odin's University Hospital. These guys also cooked the books in terms of their oversight requirements. They did a backwards reauthorization. Did they also hire Diana Shendell after they knew all this had happened, brought her into the university? She's a full professor now at that specific

university. I mean, talk about sweet. Okay. It doesn't, doesn't get any better. And by the way, Dale, this is classic DC inside the Beltway book. Yeah. Where you set up a contract, where you set up a contract at some offer and then you, you leave the federal government, you talk about a revolving door, okay? We talk about pharma. This is even even cruder. Let me ask you, Dr. Malone. Were you aware of Thorson prior to COVID vaccine, this journey you've been on, you've been sharing that journey with us here on the high wire? So all of this is sort of new to your scientific mind, a basis in integrity. It's just...

I'm an outside observer looking at this going, you know, WTF. Right. Okay. Now, there needs to be a subpoena of the CDC officials of record and the award file. In other words, her supervisor. Yeah. Who? We don't even know who it was that was responsible for overseeing this.

And by the way, the official of record is a, by statute, a very special position in the federal government. And there are major, major consequences to fraudulent activity from anybody who has sign-off authority, which Schindel didn't. for award in management of grants and contracts. Somebody at the CDC has culpability here, had line responsibility, and had specific requirements as a function of their employment to act with integrity, and that name is not even disclosed.

The notice of award for cooperative agreement, U10, DD-O-O-O-3-0-3-0. That's the specifics. Take note, Aaron. Yep, we got that. Identifies on its face the grants management officer who held signatory authority the designated project officer. That has to be subpoenaed.

We have to find out who was the branch chief who signed the reprimand and the division and center leadership that was briefed about this in 2009. And one more thing. You need to establish whether HHS ever considered voiding the award. Okay. This has been going on the statute behind the government's contract clawback authority. That means we can go to Arhus and take back. That's what clawback means.

If this was a contract, you could not only claw back that money, but you could then force Arhus to pay another administration, another institution, to do the work that they didn't do. Wow. Okay, if it was a contract. But it's not. It's a cooperative agreement. It's a grant.

So that's another one of the brilliance of this particular fraud. I'm going to call it that because I think it's broader than just him. Yeah. The brilliance of this strategy, let's say, that was implemented with this sole source is they used a teaming deal. that has very little structural teeth to be able to allow the government to enforce the terms. And if they are not enforced in order to clawback the funds and get the work actually done properly. Okay.

So that that, the statute behind the government's contract clawback authority reaches contracts and quote other transactions. This is an other transaction. And whether that phrase extends to a cooperative agreement appears never to have been examined. The HHS Office of the General Counsel has to have an opinion on this question. In any consideration given to suspension, termination, cost disallowance, or debarment, these tools were available from January 2009 and none of them have been used. Okay? This is a story of the federal government, basically, it's not just CDC.

It's all of HHS has swept this under the rug. They don't want this out, and they don't want any investigation of what they did. And you know, when you see that kind of behavior, that should be like a red meat to ICANN and Siri and your whole crew. you should just be, when you see that, this is a piece of yarn that we're going to start yanking on. You're right. I think that it's, you know, when you look at this, and let's make it clear,

when you say it's not just the CDC, every regulatory official over the decades, every politician that has made this statement, there's a mountain of evidence that vaccines don't cause autism. How big is that mountain if you take the Thorson studies off of that mountain or out of that mountain? I don't think, I've said it before. you really almost have nothing at all. You're left with almost nothing at all. So of course

they've been looking the other way on this for as long as they have. And as you pointed out clearly, this does not say that there was a fraud and how the studies were done, but the man is fraudulent. He's a liar. He'll do whatever it takes to get through. This handpicking and the entire cover up around it and the fact that no medical journal was told that he never got ethics approval for this study. Most journals, I would get, when most journals at least re-inspect, if not pull that study right away under those circumstances.

Maybe in England Journal of Medicine. You know, maybe real journals. Right. But, but Del, I'm so glad to see that you're as mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore. Well, I was just about to say, Dr. Malone, they should never, they should never have messed you with you at ASIP because you are loaded for bear now.

I can tell you're going to expose this place. I love that you're bringing it to us. I love that you're bringing it to the world. I love the substack and the work you're doing. So for people that want to follow you, where's the best place to check in on all of the investigations and writing that you're doing right now? Well, thanks a lot, Del.

And remember, I want to just make it clear. It's not just me. It's also my lovely, beautiful, treasured wife, Dr. Joel Glasspool Malone, PhD, in biotechnology and public policy. I talk to her about it. She says you're just a pretty face and she's the one doing all the work.

So just put that out there. Okay. So we're a team and like you, we're mad as hell and we're done. We're done with all of this cover up. You know, I'm, let's just say, I want to know where the new director of the C-Defiour,

DC stands on this. Yeah. I want to know where Overton stands on this. I want to know where Susie Wiles stands on this. And I want to know whether or not they're going to continue to keep a gag in Bobby's mouth over this. Or are they going to allow him to have the latitude to go to the map? Because somebody at HHS, I don't know if it's clump, who.

Somebody has got to go to the mat on this. And we need to get them mad as hell. too. If we're going to get any traction here or else we're just going to have another, oh, well, sorry, that would be too controversial going into the midterms. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think. I think we're going to put pressure on this. You are too. I'm going to give Bobby a call. Let's bring some heat. We're going to get Aaron start poking around on the legal side. Dr. Robert Malone, thank you so much for your time today and continue the great work. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you, Del. Thanks for having you.

Thank you. Well, I mean, amazing. Look at the heroes we have out there. I would say the GEDY's out of the bottle. When you take the Robert Malones of the world and the Pierre Corrie's and the, you know, all these great scientists and doctors around the world and you make them start investigating what they'd assumed was the truth, what they assumed were good studies and good people and, you know, that ethics approval was taking place. And you realize this whole thing is built on sand and the water is washing the foundation of medicine as we know it. away. As we speak, these are very, very interesting times. As I say to every journalist now, you are no longer standing on any place of ethical, you know, hierarchy or morality. You have no trials. You have no safety. This backing of vaccines, now the people that you're appointed to and the studies you're pointed to are being done by fraudsters that are now in jail. Houston, we have a problem. We've got a huge show coming up still. I am going to be talking to

to Senator Ron Johnson about the Allison inquiry that just happened up in Canada. Many of you watched our live streaming of it, vaccine injury on full scale view up in Canada. Also, I've got the worm queen is going to be talking about the cleanse I just did, and you may want to know what could possibly be slithering around inside of you as we speak. This one's going to freak you out. Might want to get some blindfolds for your children if this is a homeschool event today. And then I'm going to talk to Dr. David Brownstein. I'm going to be speaking in an event that he's putting on next week.

If you remember him, boy, did he stay in his ground, saved many, many lives, wouldn't put up with the government pressures telling him how to treat his patients. We're going to have a quick chat with him. But first, it's time for it, the Jackson Report. All right, Dr. Robert Malone was supposed to be like five minutes, but, you know, it would have to be a test for any journalist to keep it to five minutes. So I'm just going to shut up, Jeffrey, do your thing. What's going on in the world?

Okay. I'm going to springboard off what Malone was saying because the public wants accountability. And like a dog with a bone, the people that know here have been holding on to this vaccine autism research fraud out of the CDC for well over a decade now. We're getting some justice. So I want to go into the COVID vaccine and its development. There's a lot of questions going around. Was this vaccine wading in the wings for the pandemic?

The public store we were told was it, you know, it developed and warped speed and we got this thing out. and it was all great. So I'm going to go into some of the history here. And it starts with really this clip with a gentleman named Rick Bright. Rick Bright from 2016 to 2020 was the head of Barta. Barta is the biomedical advanced research and development authority within the United States. What they do is they have the big pocketbook and they write the big checks, government checks, to pharmaceutical companies so they can develop countermeasures during an emergency of vaccine. So Barta spent billions of dollars to basically hoist up and erect.

this mRNA vaccine paradigm that looks like it's starting to accelerate now into the flu vaccine. This is Rick Bright and Tony Fauci at the Milken Institute in 2019. Note this was before the world ever heard about Wuhan, the coronavirus. It was a year before any of that was public. Take a listen. All right. Why don't we blow this system up? I mean, obviously we can't just turn off the spigot on the system we have and then say, hey, everyone in the world should get this new vaccine we've been given to anyone yet.

But there must be some way that we grow vaccines mostly in eggs the way we did in 1947. There might be a need or even an urgent call for an entity of excitement out there that's completely disruptive, that's not beholden to bureaucratic strings and processes. So we really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza, and it's going to be very difficult to change that unless. you do it from within and say, I don't care what your perception is, we're going to address the problem in a disruptive way and in an iterative way, because you do need both. It is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in China

somewhere. We could get the RNA sequence from that, beam it to a number of regional centers, if not local, if not even in your home at some point, and print the RNA sequence. those vaccines on a patch and self-administer. That's right. Well, if you're going gambling, take Rick Bright with you because he's got some great predictions. So you might just want to bet on the fact that there could be an outbreak that would make us have to rush a vaccine on the market that everyone's been avoiding the technology on. You just might want to put $100 on that.

Just a hunch. So what those guys are talking about is they wanted to disrupt the vaccine. industry with gene therapies, but they can't do it because they need a disruptive event. That's the only way they could do it, a medical 9-11, and they need to do that. But boy, where can they find one? Well, if you look back in the literature and the science, they have been shooting for that since at least 2015. So here, I want to bring in a person named Barney Graham.

Barney Graham was the director of Fauci's Vaccine Research Center. So within the NIAID, that was Fauci's organization in the government. He headed that up. There was a vaccine research center where they did all types of vaccine research there. Well, they're working on genetic therapies, gene vaccines. And this was one of the articles that came out in 2016. Shots for other vaccines offer clues in race for Zika vaccines. So here we go, race for Zika vaccine.

We have this mysterious infectious disease that pops up. Children are being born with small heads. at the time, what they're not saying is it might have been pesticides, but we're going to get a vaccine for it. They're going to race for the vaccine. Here we are. We have Dr. Graham in there. He says that a DNA vaccine could be the fastest to be developed, says Dr. Barney Graham of the Vaccine Research Institute. Then Fauci's in there too. He says, we believe we can get a vaccine, Dr. Fauci. And now it goes into trials. NIH posts on their own website, government website. It begins testing investigational Zika vaccine in humans. And then you never heard about it again. Why? Well.

because the commercial incentive disappeared because Zika was not a threat they thought it would be. And at the time, there was no regulatory approval of any gene therapy for a disease such as Zika. So the hurdle would have been way too high. And there was a little bit of a problem in those trials. Antibody dependent enhancement was taking place next to Dengue fever. They resembled Zika denge have a resemblance. And it was actually making people sicker. It was enhancing their disease instead of blocking it and giving them immunity.

So that was Shelf, never heard from that again. But at that time, you have Dr. Graham. He makes an alliance with Moderna, a company that really no one heard about in 2015, 2016. And here's the head, the director of the Vaccine Research Center, probably the most important investigational virologists in the United States in the arsenal. And he goes to Moderna. Here's the contract right here. And what do they exchange?

Well, he exchanges some of the gene therapy that they had been working. on at NIAID for HIV, influenza, Ebola, and MERS, and Moderna, in turn, gives them the proprietary and confidentiality of the RNA vaccine platform and the lipid nanoparticles. So now we have this combination, and we have these articles now coming out, these studies, I should say, with Graham as the head author, evaluation of candidate vaccine approaches for MERS, COV, that's Middle East Respiratory Syndrome, Coronavirus. So they're trying to get these gene therapies, to fight coronaviruses, respiratory viruses. And then you have the pandemic coming out of Wuhan. You have some of those first rumblings. And this is Fauci's diary. We go to this for his own words.

And he says this, well, they're looking for an approach. How are we going to figure this thing out? It's going to be a vaccine, is going to be hydrochroxychloroquine. Fauci writes this. Amazing. This is 2020, May. Amazing that the POTUS, President of the United States, got to the vaccine research center and the NIH before me and Azar. That's Alex Azar, head of HHS at the time, and actually waited in the holding room for me. Graham, there's Barney Graham again, and Kazmita-Cobar made presentation on second floor, and then the President of the United States

invited me and Azar to return to the White House with him on Marine 1. So Fauci says, we have this gene therapy guy. President's coming to our house, basically, pushes the Graham in front of the president. He does the gene therapy presentation. President likes him so much. He said, hey, Fauci, Azar, get on Marine 1.

We're going back to the White House. Let's sign a deal. And then Fauci again says this in his memoirs, his diary. He says Navarro, that's Peter Navarro, is calling me a pathological liar saying that it had nothing to do with the vaccine. He said this in response to my saying that one of the best choices I made was to push ahead with Barney Graham's collaboration with Moderna. So there's where it starts.

So now they have their medical 9-11 in COVID and they ram these gene therapies through. And remember, Rick Wright was one of the people that killed the idea of hydroxychloroquine. early treatments, Fauci as well, they didn't want any early treatments because they couldn't get an emergency use vaccine approved if there was something that was in that placeholder and was helping people. And remember, too, the pharmaceutical companies, Pfizer was the other gene therapy. They pushed through with these rush studies. They weren't testing to see if it stopped transmission. We were told 95% effective.

Remember, if those studies weren't good, the vaccines also would not have been approved. Now we're having a reanalysis of the studies using all the FOIA documents. all the data that was obtained through legal means. We have this here for the Pfizer vaccine, sudden unexpected death in the Pfizer BNT-16 B2 trial. It says this, the results, this is looking at now all the data, not just a press release. The results of the 38 all-cause deaths reported in the six-month interim report, 15 met criteria for sudden unexplained deaths, 10 in the vaccinated group, and five in the placebo group. This represents a two-fold increase in sudden unexpected death incidents in the vaccine.

vaccinated group compared to the placebo. So we have a problem there. Double the people are dying. We didn't hear about that at the time this thing was being approved and shoved into the public. So the politicians, the scientists that are saying this vaccine is safe and effective. It saved us from the pandemic. No, it didn't. No, it didn't. The science shows it did not. It was rushed. This was a corporate grab. And Dell, even people on the ground. So the science was obviously gate kept as we reported for the COVID. But researchers, doctors on the ground, when they started rejecting people with this COVID vaccine. People saw things.

You were in Italy recently, and you were talking to Giovanni Trombusti researcher out there in Northern Italy, and he said this. Take a listen. In Tuscany, in my region, I'm from Florence and many other regions of central and southern Italy, the excess mortality has been much higher in 2022 than in 2021. Wow. Okay. And also then 2020.

Okay. So what happened in 2022? Because COVID deaths were going down. Yes. And excess debt in those regions where we're going up, we have to investigate. Yes. They are not dying from COVID. There should be some other reasons. So then at that point, you start thinking that maybe the huge vaccine roll-up could have been a cause of those deaths. Amazing. Yeah. That was an incredible interview. you and in something that was repeated everywhere I've been in the world saying the same thing, all cause mortality up, proving that the vaccine didn't save anybody. It looks like it's doing the opposite.

Right. And now we have this massive research effort that's been ongoing to figure out what's going on. A new study just came out looking at the lipid nanoparticle. Remember, this is the fat globule that surrounds the MRNA, the instructions. It carries it through the body to the cells so it can deliver the payload. Now here's the study. Lipid nanoparticles used an MRI vaccine. promotes tumor metastasis and mouse model.

Now look at it says not COVID vaccines, it's just MRNA vaccines like maybe the flu vaccine, maybe these new generation of vaccines that are using this and it goes in to say while the LMP, that's the lipid nanoparticle, effectively enhances MRI stability and cellular uptake, their immune modular effects remain in completely understood. Here we demonstrate that LMP administration promotes tumor metastasis by inducing a systemic inflammatory response. This is not good. You do not want this in the body. And this builds on research

of just the lipid antiparticle with this research right here. So now we have two studies at the very least pointing in that direction. This study here, pre-exposure to MRNA LMP inhibits adaptive immune response and alters innate immune fitness in an inheritable fashion. You don't want to do that. So when the researchers or when the legacy meeting will say, it's a conspiracy, it's a conspiracy, that the COVID vaccine causes cancer. Technically, yes, it doesn't. It actually downregulates the immune system according to these studies so cancer can run free. So this is what they're saying in this study. It actually goes into there and say we found that pre-exposure to MRNA LMPs or just the LMP alone led to long-term inhibition of the adaptive immune response, which could be overcome using

standard adjuvants. So they're saying actually the old vaccines are actually better. These standard axiaments are actually uh ballhalla when it comes to when it comes to systemic reactions but when it comes to cancer you do not want to inhibit long-term inhibition of the adaptive immune system that's the cornerstone for keeping cancer in check in your body when that's a shut off cancer runs wild perhaps a turbo cancer maybe that's what you're getting there so now finally there's a study looking at these cancers this is another study that just came out this year global increase of cancer mortality since the end of 2021. They look at studies from South Korea, Italy, Japan. It goes on to say altogether, these results and hypotheses suggest that COVID infection and COVID vaccine, in particular

mRNA platform, could be a significant causal contributor to, of global cancer increases among other causes. And you go to this chart in here, and on the left side, just to explain this really quick, there's something called a Z score. And when it's at zero, that's kind of the predicted outcome of something they're studying. When the Z score starts to go into the plus category, like plus one, plus two, plus three, that's deviations away from what would be normal, and that's a signal. So you can see here, each one of these colored lines is a year. We have 2021 is green, 2022 is orange, and then 2023 is yellow. Look at the, 20203 goes up in the 65 to 75 age group to plus 25 on the Z score. This is unheard of for a signal. And all of those scores pretty much are up,

except for that one in 55 to 64 age range. They're all up away from that standard deviation, showing that there is a massive issue here that's happening. And this research goes in further, and it talks about the mechanisms. Now, we talked about lipid nanoparticles, but it says, in addition to these mechanisms and immune dysregulation and decrease of the innate immunity, we also describe in this review several other pathways potentially leading to cancer activation progression as well as metastasis. And look at this chart. There's about, I don't know, 10, 15, 17 boxes there of possible pathways that can cause cancer from these shots. And these are all, I mean, we're in the infancy of research of what these shots can do when it comes

to cancer progression. But sometimes it's just the hard data. As you mentioned, the Allison Inquiry is happening in Canada right now. COVID vaccine injured are speaking up at Parliament Hill. And we have Denny Randcourt. He is a researcher who's looked at hard data. He's always looking at as the hard data, the ISD codes for cancers. And common cancers would be hard to tease apart if this COVID shot was causing cancer because they get lost in just the sheer number.

But it's the uncommon cancers, the rare cancers that have pretty much been flatlined for years that if you saw signals in those, that would give a signal. This is what Denny Rancor had to say. Take a listen. Okay. In other words, it's not a cancer that progressed naturally and spread, where you have a spread from one organ to another or to different parts of the body.

No, this is the spontaneous, simultaneous occurrence of tumors of different primacy, of different origin on different organs. So that's a very specific diagnostic. the CDC regulates how you make that diagnostic and you have to have lab studies and so on, and there's an increase in those types of cancers that is very significant. This is the increase shown for the 25 to 44-year-olds in the U.S., male and female in different colors there, and you see that large increase. So you're looking at 240 excess primary multiple site cancers in the U.S. in the age group 24.

to 44. You see the same kind of cancer shooting up a gap in the most elderly, 75-plus-year-olds. So you see male and female, I've circled it there, you have a sudden break, and you have an increase in this type of cancer, which is an unusual type of cancer. And you've got 1,500 excess deaths in this age group, 75-plus, in the U.S. So there's similar signals occurring in Canada, which we're still analyzing. It's very scary stuff. So much of this data now that we're seeing, Jeffrey, is really on the bullseye. We're not guessing anymore. As you're seeing specific cancers all go up right at the moment you see that vaccine.

You talk about that interview I did in Italy where he shows every time the vaccine rolled out for an age group, you would suddenly see a spike in deaths in the unvaccinated because, as he pointed out, They called you unvaccinated for the first two weeks until after the vaccination. So if you died from the vaccine, you were actually putting that unvaccinated category, and it happens over and over in each age group. These types of things we're seeing now are really powerful evidence that we're not just guessing here. So many great cancer doctors in the world are sounding the alarm. We have a serious issue worldwide.

Jeffrey, thank you for your continued incredible reporting. I love the fact that you have a show on Mondays now with the download where we can, you know, keep this information because it's like drinking from a fire hose right now. We are now in the moment where it's like we planted the seeds. We knew we were right. We were showing the evidence we could find. But now there is so much support coming from science all around the world of people that actually care, want to do good science. And it's coming our way. So we're going to keep the world alerted with everything that we're discovering.

Jeffrey, great work. I'll see you next week. All right. Thank you. All right. Speaking of amazing, you know, Canada, you know, is one of, was just remember in Canada, they shut down your bank accounts if you were supporting the truckers and things like that. Something, they went a step that we didn't even, maybe we considered it, but couldn't do in America. So many people when I visit Canada are like, it is horrible up here. Well, Canada finally had his first real hearing on COVID vaccine injury. It was called. the Allison Inquiry and it was a multiple day event. I think it's still going today. We broadcast the first day of that event. But here is that we've had one of our journalists and reporters up there just grabbing interviews and checking out what's going on. This is just a little bit of what some of you watch streaming live on the highwire. Take a look at this. I want to acknowledge the more than 1,400 vaccine injured Canadians have applied to appear as a

witness before this inquiry and many others who continue to come forward. To each you, thank you for trusting us with your story. We set out with a single purpose of listening to vaccine injured Canadians. These were Canada's dirty little secret, the vaccine injured. And I'm going to make everyone watching this a promise that if you watch all four days of the Allison inquiry, you will never be the same. and sincerely love Canada and Canadians. This inquiry in Canada is incredibly important step in the process. We need a complete COVID reckoning. The deaths and disabilities caused by the experimental gene therapy

pushed on billions of people globally are still being denied. But as you will hear over the next few days, they are real. Carrie, welcome to the Allison Inquiry. you were a very first vaccine injured witness. I want everyone to have a look at you before vaccine injuries. That's what I used to look like. It feels like forever ago since I was that person. It completely changed me.

On April 1st, 2024, you had your first shot, which was AstraZeneca. I started getting pain in my brain, and it was extreme pain. And it was so bad that I call it fire in my brain. I have it to this day. I was getting sick all the time. So we went, I'm sorry, I forget what I... Oh, no, it's perfectly okay. So I was just talking...

You were telling us that you'd gone to the hospital. It was on that trip back to the hospital that I was looking in the side mirror of our car and I could see that my face had dropped. I thought I was having a stroke. At the hospital, they tell you it's bells. I'll see. Yes.

Right after I received the shot, I remember looking at the pharmacist and telling him that it was a real whopper. I missed the next three days of work with a nasty flu and then return to work working maybe two to three hours a day in full sweats as I am today. Everything from there was just, it's never been the same. You know, my brain is messed up. I've got multiple brain lesions, I had blood clots. Because my brain injury is so complex, I really don't have much memory.

I could not tell you when my kids were born. My grandchildren, I have no idea when they were born. Within an hour of my first dose, high heart rate, erratic blood pressure, tightness of my chest, shortness of breath, and my second injection. Within 48 hours, severe neurological onset, double vision, hot spots in my legs, urinary incontinence, tinnitus, dizziness, inability to regulate hot and colds, and colds, and cold my first appointment with a physician. He blamed it on menopause. I have roughly eight white matter brain lesions that continue to form. I have cystic masses in my liver, pancreas, cervix, breasts, brain.

Two months after the second vaccine, I started to get a lot more tingling feeling in my legs. I would lose balance in my legs. I was always kind of tumbling and fumbling around. You've lost your nerve function in your lower limbs. That's right. You have burning nerve pain throughout your entire body. And that's even right now as you're speaking. I still have this tremors as well in my hands as well. Abigail, I called her my earth angel. She was my only child. In order for her to keep her job, she had to have what they would call fully vaccinated. She got her second shot October 15th, 2021. She started feeling unwell. She had extreme pain in her right lung. It was shooting up her neck into her head. They did a CT scan, which revealed that she was basically full of cancer. And she had a tumor in her right lung.

She was 23 years old. She never smoked. It's devastating watching your own child fight so hard. On May 1st, she received her two chemo treatments. That proved to be all that her body could handle. It was so painful as a mom to watch your child, just laying there dying and you feel so helpless. And I just buried my head into her chest. And I just kept telling her I loved her.

She just took one last breath in and a breath out. And that was it. When you're a vaccine injured in Canada, you're abandoned. That's a reality. I feel abandoned from the government that said they were going to be here for us. Although my injuries were all recognized and proven, I've still been denied by the program all therapies related to this injury. I sold my dental practice.

assets were sold, all savings gone, and crowdfunding to pay for my life. I never had an opportunity like this to speak with so many that were vaccinated injured. So to have a chance to speak with them is I'm very much so looking forward to it. If we can't be treated, how do we get better? If we can't be acknowledged, how do we heal? My life has been destroyed by a health cancer. by a Health Canada approved medical product. And no one is here to help us.

Well, many of you were tuned in watching the Allison inquiry as we were streaming it live on the first day from the highwire. And one of the features at the center of that first day of testimony was our own Senator Ron Johnson, who's been having hearings very much like this from the beginning in the middle of COVID in our own Senate here in the United States of America. and it's my honor and pleasure to be joined by Senator Ron Johnson now. Senator Johnson, thank you for taking the time today to join us from your home.

Well, Del, I mean, it's just so sad and at the same time enraging to hear those testimonies. Here we are six years later. You know, I held my first event in Milwaukee with Briand Dresson and Mandy DeGerry, you know, share wreckers a few others and here we are five years later that in america they're not being acknowledged right uh and in canada that they're five and this is the first opportunity that canadians have had to hear from their injection injured as well so it's just it's so sad to hear these stories as i said it just enrages me that the legacy media federal health officials the medical establishment continues to completely ignore these injuries.

And you've been involved with the childhood vaccine injuries for decades. Yeah. They've been gaslit and ignored. So it's hopefully, again, I can't praise MP Allison enough. Those members of the parliament that showed up for this inquiry. It's going on now for the next couple days yet. I hope, I hope Canadians, I hope Americans, I hope people around the world listen to these stories. They are real.

These injuries are devastating, including death. And, you know, when I held my first event in June, all they wanted to, all they were asking for is to be seen, heard, and believed. So they could obtain treatment. They still don't have an ICD code. That's in the works. I think they'll get it. Not till next year. But put yourself position of somebody who lost a loved one or whose life has been devastated by these injection injuries.

And the government that forces on you. The pharmaceutical companies that ask you to participate in their trials. Branddressing was part of the Astrofzeneca trial. Mada DeGerry was part of the Pfizer trial. They've been abandoned by those big farm companies. They've been abandoned by the medical establishment. They've been abandoned by our federal government, and they've been just abandoned by the public

who's just not been made aware of it. Well, they certainly haven't been abandoned by you, Senator Johnson, in several interviews over the years. I recognize that this really changed the course of your involvement in politics. You even told me before the last election, the only reason I'm running again now is to try and do something.

about the vaccine injured. So you've been a champion of this cause like no one really we've ever seen in government here in America. But is it on? I mean, I don't know. Is there a precedent for an American senator to go up to a hearing in Canada? I've never heard of such a thing happening. What brought that about and what made you think there was a good idea for an American representative to go up and speak about, you know, your perspective in Canada? Well, first of all, I was asked to do so. You know, I watched the national inquiry that they had in like eight or nine different provinces, different cities around Canada, and I appreciate what they were trying to do there.

But, you know, it just grows out of my own frustration. I produced what I consider just a bombshell report on April 29th and 2026, showing that Peter Marks, the head of the division that approves vaccines and then is supposed to surveil for safety, was warned that their algorithm was going to hide safety signals, that they used a different algorithm. For months, they showed senior FDA officials dozens of safety symbols, including sudden cardiac death, pulmonary infarction, which Anthony Fauci suffered from in June of 2021.

Different types of strokes, Bell's palsy, and to this day they're denying it. They're still lying in the American public. And not one major news network, broadcast network, not one major newspaper has covered that bombshell report that the biggest government scandal in my lifetime has a news story so again my frustration i'll listen i've been involved this i i am so sorry that i have that we have not been more effective

we've had some impact we have to keep doing this but we are a long way from getting uh the number of eyes open that need to be open to turn this into the types of news that really should should be so that these people get helped so again i i just went up because as here's another here's an opportunity maybe people pay attention but again what's depressing is their their cbc didn't cover it their major news broadcast network they didn't cover this hearing i don't even think their version of c span covered this you know we had people like you up there streaming it so it's getting out to the public but you know so much of the people to see this now are they're already convinced their eyes are already open we need to get to the venues you know

we need the the the legacy of the corporate media to start covering this as news, but they are so captured by Big Pharma. Our agencies are so captured, the medical establishment, our medical colleges are so captured by Big Pharma. It's very difficult to get the truth out. Well, you know, I am doing a lot of interviews, as I'm sure you are for many different reasons. Everyone's always asking me from the major newspapers about decisions Bobby's making and what he's doing in there. Of course, I think you're a huge part of getting him into that HHS secretary position, but I keep saying to them, you're missing the biggest story in media probably in my lifetime. I think this is bigger than Watergate. Now that we have Fauci admitting

in his own diaries, he knew that this was likely not of natural origin. He knew about injuries. He knew injuries during pregnancy were a serious concern. You're now releasing phone records. We've got Fauci's, you know, cell phone. So, you know, you've been at this sort of shooting in the dark as I have with, you know, grabbing on to whatever data we could from FDA studies. We finally got the Pfizer data. We've been looking through that. But we're in a whole different world now.

For the media to be avoiding this topic now with all that your, you know, team is brought forward. Rand Paul's team has brought forward. Certainly Robert Kennedy Jr., getting the diary into your guys' hands for the Democratic Party, for the media to be looking the other way on a guy that we now know lied to the world and drove us into lockdowns, destroyed children's educations, caused all sorts of depression issues, alcoholism, drug abuse, you name it, destroyed our economy. And half of the political, you know, party or, you know, establishment in America doesn't even want to investigate this. No one in media covering it. So I want to ask you, it's in your

hands. You said you were going to run just for this issue. You have broken some huge stories. For instance, I think Janet Woodcock, what we learned in some of these cell phone information that you dropped, this came out. I have been, this is Janet Woodcock. I have been contacted by a number of people who have been experiencing adverse events post-COVID 19 vaccination. Many are health care professionals, some of whom I know. She goes on to say the symptoms do not fit together in a distinctive syndrome and most are not easily quantifiable or evaluated with standard laboratory testing. But the people's main complaint is that no one takes them seriously.

No one knows how to treat them and there's no effort to study this. She goes on to say, I think it would be worthwhile to do a study and evaluate a cohort of these individuals. I doubt the industry would support that, obviously, because we're so in bed with them for obvious reasons. But my experience is that if you let a problem fester, then it will come back to bite you later and you are not prepared. So now we have, we're seeing Murthy had questions.

We even recognize Walensky was, is questioning what was happening in there and being gaslit herself on some level and then carrying that gaslighting forward. So my question to you is, are these people being lined up for subpoena now by either your committee or Rand Paul's? Because it certainly seems like these are individuals that, you know, knew. They were a part of a cover-up, even maybe trying to expose it. They do not have, you know, President Biden's pardon behind them. It certainly seems like putting pressure in here would be valuable.

Is there any work in that direction right now? It's all my effort. Right now we're being frustrated. We, you know, now that we've gotten Anthony Fauci's diaries, we've seen what on his devices, which quite honestly, I think we should have been, had access to months, if not years, ago. Yeah. But as committed as Bobby Kennedy is to radical transparency, there are people within these agencies, people who are complicit in all this that help cover it up. They're going to

continue to sabotage his efforts. So, you know, for example, Tom Schimbeckuro, he was the top safety surveillance expert within CDC. He was touting Vayers in October 2020 before the emergency use authorization. And then as soon as Vayers was being overwhelmed with all these reports of adverse events, they started denigrating variants. Oh, you can't trust that. That's just a bunch of anti-vaxxers, you know, providing false reports. So every time these officials charged with safety surveillance saw safety signals, they denied them. They denigrated. They stopped taking the data. They didn't want to know. And so I think of, you mentioned all the things we're learning. I think that the most important revelation out of the Anthony Fauci's diaries is that,

in early, I think this is February 8th of 2020, he's confiding to his diaries that he thinks that the case infection rate, or case fatality rate, which is higher than the infection mortality rate. But he said the case fatality rate will probably be 0.2 to 0.3. Double a bad flu season, but a flu is about 0.1 infection fatality rate. But he goes a month later in front of Congress and said it's going to be 10 times worse than the flu. So he knew it. He knew what Johnny Anitas was talking about from the Princess Cruz, you know, like a bad flu season. Like Carl Hennigan from the Center for Evidence-based Medicine, you know, double a bad flu season.

Now, you don't shut down an economy because of a bad flu season. We've never done in the past. Why would we do it now? We've had to prepare for it. You have to warn people. You've got to prepare hospitals for it. don't shut down the economy and you don't force an experimental gene therapy on billions of people around the world, not having done any of the testing, virtually none of the testing

that was required. But that Janet Woodcock, okay, now she was the FDA commissioner. Peter Marks worked for her. She's talking about, I'm hearing about these injuries in May. I was asking Francis Collins in April because I'm looking at thousands of deaths already being reported DeVayers. Peter Marks by March 1st of 2020 was warned his algorithm, algorithm was going to hide safety signals. They already had a couple data runs showing dozens of safety signals before Janet Woodcock ever wrote that, probably C-Y-A email. And then, of course, when Francis Collins and Anthony Fauci got that, their comments in terms of emails we've discovered is, you know,

we're going to have to, you know, answer Janet Woodcock, not like they are happy to. And I have to add this because this is where it really comes in on the injection injured. They were already being diagnosed and treated by March of 2021. By somebody in NIH, Dr. Knapp. They had a team of people. They were bringing people in. They were diagnosed and they were treating. And they were being told that the injection injured were being told two things.

First of all, stay quiet. Don't tell anybody. Let's gather all the information this weekend. provide the best information in the medical community, but they're also being told how important it was to intervene early to have effective treatment. Right. Now the problem is it wasn't until 2022

that they finally released a report on a pre-print server and told no one, which is why to this day, they're still denying. We also have emails that certainly indicate that the higher-ups, Dr. Nath's, his bosses, weren't happy with what his study was. They weren't agreeing with what he was doing,

trying to help the injection injury. I'm trying to figure out who shut that study down because that's obvious. That's what happened. Somebody shut that study down. I'm trying to get the documents. I've heard rumors. To this day, we're trying to get the devices

of Peter Marks, of Janet Woodcock, of Murthy, of Wollinsky. We're being told they had them, but we've been decommissioned and taken out of inventory, but they won't tell us what that means. So even to this day, even though I've got subpoenas, I'm offering to offer, to provide more, what does it take? We're still being frustrated within the bureaucracy.

There's 16 ways on Sunday they can throw up roadblocks. And that's what's happening to this day. What happens to this? You can see my level of frustration just continues to them out. Is there a concern? What happens to your, you know, commission, the work that ran Paul's doing should in the midterms the Republicans lose the Senate, the House. I mean, does that affect these investigations going forward? It certainly would deny me of unilateral subpoena power,

which is a threat that I can hold over people's heads and use, for example, to reluctant witnesses, you know, even outside of government. I've got that subpoena, I can call them in. And we're scheduling interviews. The problem is, I need the documents. Yeah. It doesn't help to bring in somebody. You know, we've interviewed people. We've interviewed Tom Shimbakuro, completely unrepentant. There is nothing you can show him where he'll admit, yeah, we probably should have been warning the public about vast safety signals.

Then we very early reported they saw a safety signal on myocarditis. Even though even with the algorithm that was hiding safety signals, they saw a safety signal. they decided against issuing an alert on the health alert network. They did clinical considerations on their website. No, you know, very few people see that. So every time they saw a safety signal, they downplayed it, they buried it. They didn't want to create vaccine hesitancy. We see that time and time again.

Well, be careful here. If we announce this, we're going to create vaccine hesitancy. They wanted that shot in billions of arms. They weren't going to let anything get in the law. way of getting that shot in billions of arms globally. This is exactly the problem that I have been, you know, shouting from the mountaintop since I got involved in this investigation of vaccines since 2016 Robert Kennedy Jr. a decade before me and others is that by calling something of vaccination, we are leaving the Hippocratic oath

that we deliver on drugs. We tell you what the side effects are on drugs. We're telling you this isn't going to work for everybody. And the fact that we're trying to do that now that Robert Kennedy Jr., all he's trying to do is point. to the warning label that's wrapped around every vaccine that the doctors are receiving in their office. And somehow there's this belief that we should lie to the public in order to establish the right kind of confidence around these products that are just as dangerous, if not in some situations like the COVID vaccine, I think more dangerous than many of the drugs that have probably been recalled throughout time. Senator Johnson, I pray that you be given all the time necessary

to get this job done. I pray that you, you know, are able to dissolve these roadblocks that I know exist for you and Robert Kennedy Jr. and others that are trying to do the right thing. But I just want to honor you and thank you for sacrificing, you know, your retirement, really. You could be playing with grandkids. You could be having a life and you stuck around, stayed in as one of the few people doing the service for the people. You truly are a hero.

I know in Canada, they are very thankful that you were up there. So continue the great work. We, you know, we will support you. in every way that we can. And thank you for taking the time to join us today. Well, thank you for all that you've done with high wire and all things you've done as well. I mean, I can say the exact same thing about you. So we're all in this together.

We're doing what we can do. And thanks for what you've done. Absolutely. You bet. Take care. I'll see you soon. Senator Johnson. Thank you.

Well, look, there's many different ways that we approach this. We've got, you know, Senator Ron Johnson, you got Rand Paul in there, you know, digging through the swamp of red tape and bureaucracy that are trying to block things. We are bringing lawsuits with our legal team. We're trying to establish what was illegal during COVID, whether it was mass mandates, forced injections, all of it, so that can never happen again. But one of the things, one of the tools we like to use is a petition, the power of the people, which is the greatest power we have. There's only so much Robert Kennedy Jr. can do, especially if people think he's all alone. And so this week,

in our legal update, we are wanting you to sign on to a petition to really give Kennedy pressure, but really to give him the excuse and the reason to go to President Trump and those around him and the cabinet say, I'm getting a lot of pressure. And here's what we wrote about and what we want you to do. Take a look at this. First paragraph says, federal law gives the Secretary of Health and Human Services, HHS, the authority to review or reverse any COVID-19 vaccine injury or compensation decision. With more than 98% of all injury compensation, oh, with 90% of all COVID-19 petitions denied so far, ICANN's legal team has appealed to Secretary Kennedy to re-examine these cases. This isn't an issue that can be ignored any longer. Sign and share our petition

to help us show Secretary Kennedy that you have not forgotten the vaccine injured. You probably are one of them. ICANN has been working with React 19 to advocate for the thousands of severely injured whose lives were changed after they got the COVID-19 vaccine. Our legal team identified a federal regulation that gives the HHS Secretary the full authority to, at any time on his own motion or an application, review any determination made under the CICP, and to affirm, vacate, or modify the determination

in any manner the Secretary deems appropriate. Grab this QR code, please, and share it. it with everyone you know. We want as many names piled up inside of this document that we can send to Senator Kennedy, make him aware if he's not already that he has this authority and this power and he should be using it. You just heard from Ron Johnson. It's what we're listening to in Canada. It's what they're talking about in Australia. They are denying what they knew to be true. Janet Woodcock says, I got friends that are getting injured. Should we look into this? Nope, mum's the word. Peter Mark's lied to the world, said, oh, no red flags to see here.

Meanwhile, his boss is complaining of problems she's seeing in this and wants us to do studies. And so then when you finally get into the vaccine court and this totally corrupt system, they're just kicking them all out because it's evidence that they've lied to us. Well, it's time for Robert Kennedy Jr. to do something. And honestly, it's not that we're against him. We need to give him that support. He needs to be able to say, look how many people want justice here. So that's what this is all about. You can get the Bitley right there.

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So we know we live in a toxic environment. We know there's all sorts of things, you know, whether it's pesticides and herbicides on our food or pollution in the air or fluoride in the water or water. or, you know, aluminum and metals in our vaccines. But what about things that are actually alive and growing? Maybe they're even natural, but somehow got into your system. Of course, I'm talking about parasites, worms, those ugly, gross things that I know my dog has them because I've seen them. But could they be inside of me?

Well, is that question that has established one of the most important conversations and dynamic interviews you're going to be seeing all over social media or already have, and that is with the worm whisperer. We're talking about Kim Rogers, who is the worm queen. Take a look at this. Kim Rogers, affectionately known on social media as the worm queen. She's a wellness professional with over 18 years of experience. She's known as the worm queen or parasite queen

because she's that much of an expert at helping people heal their body of parasites, Lyme disease, and other types of infection. Kim has hundreds of thousands of followers, and she gained this national fan base when she started sharing her own story of healing from parasites. I come from Western medicine. I have two health care degrees, and I ran 25 health care colleges, so I'm pretty aware on a professional level how my health should be. And then on a personal level, my health was really starting to decline. The doctors couldn't figure out. And I had had 13 surgeries in a hysterectomy, and they still said, I needed to just kind of accept my life the way it was. I came across this video that was talking about how worms almost unalived her.

And she was like, I just did this cleanse and I felt so much better. And I was like, why not give this a try? Three days into this specific parasite cleanse, I saw roundworm, flat worm, pinworm. I immediately took to my phone and I did a video and it went super. It was taking my life force. It was stealing up to 90% of your nutrients. Nutrients, it can hold six to eight times its weight and spores, heavy metals, other worms, bacteria, and viruses. And when you unalive the worm, the physical worm itself, which is called a nematode, it'll dump all of that into your body.

What's the percentage of people that actually find something after they do the cleanse? Well, statistically, through the CDC, it's 60 million. But from my experience that I've been doing this for four years, it's around 95% of people have a parasite. Oh, no. We don't cleanse in Western medicine countries, and that's really important for us to actually go in and get rid of them. This should be normal. Yeah. This shouldn't be something that is just so crazy that we're all not wanting to talk about it.

Well, I'm going to warn you right now, this is one of those conversations. Maybe you don't want your children watching. I don't want them to turn into OCD freaks that are washing their hands everywhere they go. But we're going to get into the gruesome details, probably some team I right now with Kim Rogers. Thank you for joining me. Thanks for having me. It's a honor. So I'm curious.

Do you sit there like 10 years old staring in the mirror in your princess out and saying one day I want to be called the worm queen? Is that how does this happen? That is definitely what I wanted to do. I actually left working in urgent care because I did not like parasites. Really? Yeah. So it was, you know, scabies and lice. It's all under the word parasites.

Anything that feeds off a host is a parasite. So I actually was crowned the worm queen when I went viral in 2021 via TikTok. Yeah. So my community gave me a crown. So you've had a lot of health issues. Was there, what was the pinnacle moment that had you look into? I mean, because you did so many other things, trying so many things. What was it that finally got you to say, maybe I should be looking at parasites?

In 2019, my husband and I quit our careers, and we sold everything, and we moved out to a piece of recreational property that we decided we were going to build a log home. So basically, we got our affairs in order because I was in really bad shape. Really? Wow. So we decided to go out there and heal my body or say goodbye. I didn't want to leave my husband with a mortgage or debt. What was the health issues? What type of one do you say you're feeling like you're going to die? What were we, what was going on?

I had stage four endometriosis and I had had a hysterectomy when I was 29 years old. And before my hysterectomy, I had five surgeries. And after my hysterectomy, I had five more surgeries. And so they just kept cutting on me. They really couldn't get down to what my real root cause was. And so when we started out on this adventure of healing my body, we really wanted to get me off of all of my big pharma meds so that I could get a good baseline of what was really going on in my body. Wow. And so then you start looking at parasites. What was the approach? I mean, how did you, how does one say, you know, I mean, we hear about ivermectin and drugs. Would you say your approach is mostly herbal? Like how did you get into? and understand. How does someone study that? Well, I kind of was forced into it.

So in 2019, when we went out and did all of the research and healing, we looked at mushrooms. That was our first step into the holistic world for me. We did that for about a year and a half. And then around the beginning of 2020, we decided to kind of go a little deeper because I was a little bit better from getting off of my big pharma meds. not having the side effects from that. So in July of 21, I came across a gal's video that said she almost unalived herself over worms. And I kind of stopped in my tracks. And I thought, you know, a few years before, I thought that I had worms. I had flares during the full moon. I had itchy butt. I had weird movement in my body and it was all unexplained. So I decided to buy what she was selling, which was like a $30 cleanse just on Amazon.

And within three days, I saw roundworm flukes and pinworms in the toilet. And this pain that I always had on my right side was gone. And that pain was always an indication I needed another surgery. I've never had it back. Wow. So was that effective? It was that effective within three days for me. Wormwood and I used garlic and black walnut hole.

And all of those things are antiparcytic. and they really do unalive parasites and move them out of your body. So if that is a root cause and you're taking an antiparasitic, then it's just natural that that could be one of them. All right. So you have a protocol that you've put together that people are using. You're viral all over talking about doing this work. I did 30 days.

I will say, first of all, right up front, it was incredibly subtle. I didn't stare in the toilet. I mean, I looked a couple of times. I was like, I don't know if I would recognize what I'm looking for anyway. But what I did, you know, the staff was asking you feel anything. One of the things that I do remember is at least once, especially one day, I was so irritable. Like I was suddenly so incredibly irritable to the point where, like, a lot of times you can be in bad mood, but where you really get outside yourself going,

what is going on with you? Everything was setting me off. I mean, I was just absolutely had one nerve left and everyone was standing on it. And to the point, like, the next day, I was like, honey, I don't know, what happened to me yesterday? Like, I was, like, in a rage all day. She's like, oh, no, our son ever told me,

stay away from dad, something is up with him. He's in the worst mood ever. So I had a day like that. I remember once in an evening. And by the way, it's just for people to know, just drops in water. It's so simple. So light. I was like, I'm not sure it's doing anything at all. But then there was a moment where I felt a couple different evenings where I suddenly just felt like I was intoxicated or drunk, cloudy, foggy, like, you know, inebriated. And so are those,

I mean, are those things that people describe? And what is that? They're die-offs. So when you're unaliving the worms inside of your body or anything that's inside of that biofilm, it's going to dump everything in your body, and that includes trauma, emotions, aggravation, and you're a flusher for cleansing purposes. You just, like, flushed and left. Yeah. I'm not picking through it. As much as I might be letting so much of the audience down that I know wanted to take the look. We have lots of pictures. Yeah. We have so many. If someone stole my phone, they'd hand it right back. Oh, yeah. They'd find me. Oh, my God. They'd be like, what is this?

Wait, is this in my body? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they're holding on to all of these toxins. They've hijacked our nervous systems. They can tap right in, feeding us bad code into our nervous systems because they're in a live frequency. So you're absorbing their frequency as well as them absorbing yours. So they hold onto things. During my first few cleanses, I went through a lot of like emotional release because I was removing things that have been in my body.

body for decades. They're not just in us for a little while. If we've never cleansed, which Western medicine countries don't cleanse. We're holding all of that inside of what is a biofilm. And that's the hardest part about doing a cleanse is you have to break that biofilm down and it releases all of the crap that's in that biofilm. And it can hold six to eight times its weight and spores, heavy metals, other viruses, other bacteria and other worms. And so when you on a live-em, it just dumps that. And that's why you strategically have to do a parasite cleanse, and that's why I invented the Parify kit. Because I went through all of this on film. I mean, I went viral in July of 21, and I was just doing random cleanses. They were really hard on me

and my husband. I had them coming out my skin. I had them coming out my urine. We were super infested from our water that was there in the Lake Cushman area in Washington. And so once I found that out. Is that city water? It was a community well. So it was a well. Yeah. Well is notorious for having parasites and we just have never really been educated on that. We also then tested our water in Seattle and also tested positive for nematodes. So I kind of went down a wormhole there and found out our country doesn't actually test our water for nematodes. It only tests our water for the physical worms. The physical worms. Right. Like flat worm, tapeworm. So the roundworm. Let's look at some of these pictures. Why don't you take me through some of the things that people

might have inside of them. Get ready, folks. Here we go. I think we have, so what is this? What am I looking at right here? That is, it looks like a cartoon. That is a tapeworm under a microscope. She has a head of a tapeworm. Yes, it's ahead of a tapeworm under a microscope. It latches, it's like fangs into your stomach, and then it winds itself all the way around in your intestines, and that's how it absorbs all your nutrients. So it holds onto one spot and then just grows its way through. Does it absorb things through its own? Correct. So it doesn't eat it. It just absorbs it. And each segment of a tapeworm, which is about the piece of a rice, the size of a rice, can have 46 uteruses and produce one million eggs a day. Right? So they're really, you have to get the head of a tapeworm in order for

you to remove the tapeworm and it's because it's latched on. So how do you know you, there's the head. How do you get it? How do you know you got it? Um, usually. Usually you'll see a big head. Like, you'll know you got the head of a tapeworm. Back in the Victorian age, when they would eat tapeworms in order to get skinny, they would... Great idea. Perfect idea. They were sanitary tapeworms.

I mean, they sold them in the back of a Sears catalog. Oh, my God. So that you could get skinnier. And then they would have you go into a milk bath, cover your bum all the way up, and then the tapeworm would actually come out with the head, and you would grab it and pull it. Okay, what else we got? What else can be lurking in the deep dark depths? Okay, this is a real picture.

That's a tapeworm. That's a tapeworm. With roundworm at the bottom. Okay. So you can see it has approximately three heads. And then where it looks like long, those are segments. And then at the end that is roundworm, they all do really love living together. They thrive on low frequencies, low vibration, and they love eating the processed food.

eating the processed food and the heavy metals weight them down. So as I was going through this journey of my own, I started realizing that heavy metals weight down parasites. And so you actually have to go in and help remove those heavy metals out of your body. So when I started creating the Parify kit, I brought in cilantro.

Salonro is a heavy metal herb that helps remove it out of your body. So it lightens the weight of the parasite or any protozoas, which are microscopic, parasites and that's like cyclospora and cryptospority which we're hearing a lot about right now yeah like all over the country why do we set like why do we get these outbreaks where our fresh vegetables are suddenly causing uh problems like cyclospora well when they're harvesting your produce so they're in other countries or even on our own there's nowhere to go to the bathroom so they're going to the bathroom in the field they're not able to wash their hands they grab in this

case the lettuce, then they chop that lettuce up, they stick it in a bag, and then they put bleach or chlorine inside of that bag to clean the lettuce. But in fact, cyclospora and cryptospritium thrive in bleach and chlorine. Also, if you go into a public pool and you come out with explosive diarrhea, you caught a parasite. Oh, great. So you just have to be really conscientious, and that's why I'm so loud online. It's why I'm so viral is because this is a proactive approach. If you know this is what's happening around us in the salmon and the sushi and our pets, we're deworming our pets.

Why aren't we der worming ourselves at the same time? I had worms. My dog had worms. I mean, it's just kind of really common sense at this point for me to think that, well, I can catch them from my dog, which I have a ton of videos talking about how your pets can give you tapeworms and round worm and you know they're out there licking their butts and eating other dogs poo and so it's really about at this point being proactive on exactly what we need to do to protect our bodies we only get one of these and so why be riddled with something that you

really could go and take parify and be able to move things out of your body and feel better I mean, you've started to feel better even after your... I will say that, you know, even though I had those mood swings here and there, I do, you know, I really started feeling like, I remember several days where you just out, again, like, going, wow, I am so dialed. In fact, I did the show a couple times. Sometimes I'm tired. I'm traveling a lot, and I wasn't tired. I was on point, just feeling like I was firing on all cylinders again. So it definitely, you know, I always wonder is the placebo effect. I mean, I have to take that into account.

But there were those days where I wouldn't have naturally, I'm just not prone to sort of being quite that moody. I, you know, I had my moments, but it was definitely outside the ordinary. You know, when a person like myself, I've never done prior to this, done a cleanse like that. And by the way, you didn't change my diet. and asked me to change my diet. It was really just easy. I could just live life as I was,

but just putting, you know, 30 drops in some water, three times a day, super easy. I think I'm probably going to do it again just to make sure that I feel like if I have a lifetime in this. But how many worm, like, is there like an account that you're sort of starting to see? Like, how much is inside of us? Is it change per person? No. I don't feel like it's changed per person.

person I feel like we all have something in our bodies and the label of what that is is kind of up for discussion right where when you're looking at how many environmental toxins we have in our body and how our toxic bucket is just totally overflowing but where does it stem from and so the name parasite is just that it's anything that feeds off a host and then you have just different labels from that is different frequencies so that you have different frequencies of herbs or synthetic medications that you would take to target that. And so that's really what the labels are for. But we're like a Z-pack.

The Parify kit's like a Z-pack. We're going to go in and I, you know, all the general ones like the roundworm and the tapeworm and the flatworms and protozoas like Giardia. I mean, we're all very familiar with that word from when the water breaks. They all are a parasite which is needing an antiparacetic. So you wouldn't take like Tylenol for strep throat, right? So you've got to target the anti-parasitic herbs with those particular parasites. One of the big ones like Ivermectin.

A lot of people watching the show are taking ivermectin all the time. Does that work? I mean, do I need to do a parasite cleansing if I've been taking ivermectin? Yes, you also need to bind. So I've done all the synthetics. I really believe that we should be doing them. other countries do synthetics like Mexico. They can go to their pharmacy for seven to 10 bucks

and buy a couple of antiparacytics a few times a year. In some places in Mexico require you to do that for sports and school. So I believe, because this is what I've been doing for five years and how I was able to control the overgrowth of worms that were going on in my body is I did multiple different synthetics and those synthetics only target what the frequency

the synthetic says. So Ivermictin doesn't target pinworms. Okay. So they can actually cause more problems with the pinworms because you've just removed all their friends. And so now they're able to thrive. Now they're just alone in there. Correct. So you also have to bind at night. And so in order for us to target all of this, you've got to do your synthetics and then five to seven days, not medical advice, but five to seven days later, you should do herbs. You should do something like the Parify kit and do that for 30 days. We're like a Z-pack. We're going to go in. We're going to help break the biofilm down. We're going to help move out some candida. We're going to help you with worms and parasites and

heavy metals, inflammation. We help you bind. We show you because we include instructions in the kit. We show you what to do and we show you how you should feel while you're actually deworming your body. And we make that in our own manufacturing facility that we custom built ourselves. It's 14,000 square feet and we are so dedicated to this. We soak the herbs. We do all of this ourselves. It's really important for society to be doing this three to four times a year minimum. Are we more filled with worms than we were, you know, I mean, people like, you know, in the Bible days, we live to be 800 years old. I mean, whether or not that's true or not, did, were we culturally different? Did we naturally do detoxes that we don't know about?

Or is it, you know, or how much is our toxic environment affecting worm growth? Does the fact that I've got glyphosate and heavy metals and all these things in my body, is that creating a more, an environment more prone to infestation? Absolutely it is. They're weighted down with these toxins. We're a low frequency. They thrive on that. You wake up and you immediately have to go from a negative of your homeostasis level to a pot.

you're trying to fight to get to that positive, right? I think a lot of people talk about low energy. Like you're struggling to get through the day. They're stealing your life force. They're stealing our nutrients. They can steal up to 90% of our nutrients. So you started to feel better because you assisted with the overgrowth that was going in your body. And so what you were eating was actually going into your body, not into them.

And so when you look at that on an energetic level, you're feeding your body what it needs in order to get moving. but if they're stealing those nutrients, then how do you even know where your baseline is? So like in 1909 to 1924, the hookworm in the South was just rampant. It was actually unaliving people. There was a hookworm epidemic that Western medicine was built upon the hookworm. The 10 steps that they did for the global public health systems that Rockefeller stepped in to assist with was actually because of the fact that the Southerners were dying from hookworm. it was eating all of their iron.

So the hookworm can lay right on the side of the vein, absorbing all of that iron, causing you to be anemic. And instead of us looking into that, we're just feeding it more iron. We're just feeding it more. Whoa. And so when you're able to go in and get that overgrowth under control and move some of these toxins out of your body,

you start to feel better. So regardless of if you see anything in the toilet, it really is about how are you combating these symptoms, how are you moving the heavy metals out of your body and how are you feeling? Because everybody gets stuck on, I didn't see anything. And unless you're really digging, I mean, there's the lookers, the flushers, and the diggers. Okay, well, I'm sure they're out. They're great for my business to show.

Look, it's not just coming out in the stool. You even have a foot bath that came with the kid. It looks like it's super blah. I don't know what that was. Like this dark stuff stuck my feet in, you know, again, there was so much dark hair in my house. It's probably isn't a good sign. I was like, I can't tell that dog hair words, but you've got to take a look at this image. She pulled out of her own foot, right?

That came out of your foot. That came out of my foot. That's a thread worm, and that's fulvick. It's a fulvick soak. You can do your feet or you can do a full bath. I would never have believed any of this was true if I hadn't had it all on film. I have filmed myself every day since July 18th of 21. I wanted people to see what it looks like to go from dying in the woods in 2019 to where I'm at,

today and all the things I've done I actually show so that you can go you know what I'm going to tap into that or you know what I'm not going to do that right now but I'm going to you know bookmark that so that we have the opportunity to do it later and when that came out of my feet I went super viral over it I was really only on TikTok at that time and it was about three months after I did my first parasite cleanse that I went viral on and I've loved fulvix sense and so much stuff comes out of your your body and the like the shimmery stuff that was on that is heavy metals. Volvick helps pull those out.

Your feet actually are a really great exit point. They have 125,000 pores on each of your feet. And so they just can swim right out of your pores. But on the flip side of that, that's how people get hookworm. That's how people end up getting pinworms and roundworm is walking barefoot. And going outside, they just latch on. They go up through your pores. And then they start to just go into your body and lay the eggs.

All right, there's so much more I want to get into. We're going to take it off the record. But for people watching right now, how do they look into the work you're doing? How can they do a deeper investigation if they decide that this might be something they want to look at doing for themselves? The easiest way is to Google me, Kim Rogers, the worm queen. Okay. But you can also find me on my website, which is rogershood.com. It's R-O-G-E-R-S-H-O-O-D.com.

and then all my handles are Mrs. Rogers Hood, and then my podcast is What's Eating You with the letter U, where I talk about this also in long form, and I show you everything that I do to heal my body. All right. Well, look, I actually have a question for you that I want to get into off the record. I'm going to push back, or at least there's people that would push back. I have friends that are, you know, all raw, eat raw meat, raw chicken, raw fish. They will say to me, I want every microbe in me I can get. we are a sack of worms, bacteria, parasites. I just get stronger, it makes me stronger.

And before people think that's crazy, I have reported on this, even back to the doctors, but I pulled up Wikipedia. I just want to read this. This is Helmintic Therapy. The first paragraph, this is Helmintic Therapy, an experimental type of immunotherapy, is the treatment of autoimmune diseases and immune disorders by means of deliberate infestation with a helment or with the eggs of a hermint. Helmint. Helmints are parasitic worms such as hookworms, whipworms, threadworms, that have

evolved to live within a host organism on which they rely for nutrients. The theory behind Helmint therapy is that these worms reduce negative immune responses due their TH2 immune response that down regulates they have normal T-cell responses recently associated with autoimmune disorders. This therapy ties to the hygiene hypothesis in that the lack of exposure to bacteria and parasites such as Helmints can cause an overactive immune system to being more susceptible to autoimmune disease. So I don't want you to answer this now. I'm going to use this as, yeah, I'm teasing everyone out there in the audience right now. I want you to check out off the record.

But I was aware that, for instance, pig farmers don't get multiple sclerosis. And at least there's been articles and studies about that because they get worms from working with the pigs. I want to know what your thought is on that. By the way, you're going to get to see her thought because we're sticking with it. Off the record is now going to air every Friday evening like we've been doing. It's going to be free. You can just sign in there. We're removing the paywall.

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Dahl, you've been talking about this for years. We have the sickest children on the face of the earth, compared to every Western country. Either we solve this problem or America's not going to continue to exist. We're going to fail under our health care problems and our health care bills. So I thought it was, it was important to put on a conference on vaccines and immunology and discuss the misinformation, disinformation of what the truth is. And, you know, I didn't have to have. to go into a B list to get these speakers. These are all friends of mine. I've known them for years. We have the high wire crew. We have you. We have Aaron Siri. We have Jeffrey Jackson. And I'm so excited for this conference. Neil Miller is going to speak. Larry Pilefsky. Wow. Dr. James Thorpe. Mary Holland. And Robert Malone, we're going to learn so much information out there. And I had a patient this morning asking me about which vaccine she should take. I'm like, you should come to this conference next week. You'll learn all about vaccines, all about immunology,

and you'll be able to make your own decisions. Because either we fix this problem with our kids who are over-medicated, over-vaccinated, and a mess right now, or I just don't see how we survive as a country. Hopefully this conference will give it a kick in the butt. Well, I look forward to being there. You've been really open. Let me just ask you in your medical journey,

did you always have an issue with vaccines, or was that something that evolved in your experience? When I was in medical school, I bought into everything I was taught. I didn't deviate. I wanted to be a doctor modeled after my family doctor. I thought vaccines were one of the greatest public health benefits. And what I was taught in med school about vaccines was how to memorize the schedule and that they were safe and effective.

And I was recommending to my patients follow the schedule. I had it memorized with my firstborn. you know, we started fully vaccinating her at two, four, and six months of age. And then my turn into holistic medicine happened. And once I decided that, you know, everything I taught in medical school that was taught to me in medical school wasn't true, I decided I began to investigate everything that I was taught. And when my daughter came into her next set of vaccines, I started researching them on what I found

horrified me, that there wasn't great science, that, you know, there was. They weren't safe and effective for 100% of people, that there were problems with them that I was never taught. And, you know, I became a topic of mine. And I've seen patients injured with vaccines. You know, it's not everything is bad, but certainly vaccines are safe and effective as a mantra that just needs to be discussed and people need to be educated about it. And I'm happy to be having this conference, happy you're coming and, you know, looking forward to it. So I didn't start off this way. I start off believing everything I was taught.

And once I started reading the science and using my brain, you know, I came to a different conclusion. Well, that is proving to be the case for many doctors. They're getting in late. I think COVID woke up a lot of people. Many of the speakers, I think, you know, that are going to be at this event, really like Dr. Robert Malone, as he said today, I never thought about any of these things.

But boy, they're talking now. Dr. Brownstein, you've got a star-studded group out there. I'm looking forward to seeing you a week in about a week. And I'm just glad you are out there that you're outspoken. You've been brave when others haven't been. So it's going to be an honor to get to stand on the stage with you. So I'll see you in Dearborn next week. See you next week, though.

All right, take care. So make sure you come out and see me. If you're out there in Michigan, this is going to be a great event. I look forward to seeing you there. ICIMED.com where you can register. Obviously, I mean, all of your heroes are going to be there. It's going to be a great conference. and I'll see you there.

You know, look, we are, I know we focus on COVID, but the truth is, is the world is starting to focus on COVID more than ever again. Why? Well, because there was what we were able to investigate, where everything was being hidden, and we were pulling back the curtain and showing you as much as we could find, but look where we are at now. We have now got the Janet Woodcock's of the world complaining that they know

his vaccine injury. She's the boss of Peter Marks that's telling the world and telling Brienne Dresson, we just don't see any red flags that you're talking about. What are you talking about? Your boss is sending you an email saying, my friends are getting sick and no one's paying attention to them. We got Tony Fauci pleading the fifth. We have his own records where he knows most likely this wasn't of natural origin. He knows women are going to have miscarriages. They know our children are going to have my arc carditis. They know that the death rate was only going to be like a bad flu season and then went ahead a year later to force a vaccine when they knew we were already

most likely fully immune because we'd been in contact with COVID. They locked us down. They destroyed our economy. Now, I know, well, maybe it seems repetitive, but we're a little different than other shows, okay? Maybe you've just jumped to a conclusion. Of course, this is all planned. You could do that. I don't do that.

We need the evidence to be able to make the statements, and we have waited for the evidence, we've dug for the evidence, we've sued for the evidence, but now the evidence is coming forward. And as we're presenting that evidence and those people that are coming on this show, more and more doctors, more and more scientists, more and more legal authorities are going,

oh my God, and not just in America, all around the world. So sure, go ahead. You could go tune in somewhere. Let's go worry about the Iran war and what we're doing to children around the world and what we're bombing. Meanwhile, they are bombing us here. They're bombing our children. They're bombing you.

And everywhere else in the world, for those of you that are watching, they are murdering you and they know they're murdering you. And they are coming up with totally ridiculous reasons to be allowed to do so. And they're defending their position. and they're obfuscating even while we have them on the stand, even when their king is now pleading the fifth. We've got them on the ropes now. Goliath is more than staggered. Goliath is on his back, but he's breathing.

And we are going to make sure that we put an end to this lie, to this incredible destruction of our children and of our health and of our world. The high wire has been at the forefront when no one was talking about it. Now, everyone is, but we're going to make sure that the science backs everything that we're saying. We're helping Ron Johnson. We're helping everyone we can with this investigation because it's the most important investigation in the history of mankind. It will determine whether or not enough people recognize that even the governments that seemed like they were there for the people saw us as numbers and wiped many of us off the earth, many to come.

What will be the solutions to the cancers they've caused? We're going to be talking about solutions and problems and issues and reality. That's what we're here for. Call your friends. Tell them they need to tune in. Get more and more people to start thinking about this because I've told you, and I said it to Australia this morning at 6 a.m., they are going to do this again.

They didn't achieve the goal. They need control of your body. They need that vaccine passport on your phone. They need to be tracking every decision you're making, not just your face. They want you to drive by and say, we got that guy's DNA and we know what's going on with him or her, you. That's the future they're dreaming of. And only the truth will break the possibility for that takeover of our lives. So for that truth, we're going to keep delivering it.

We're going to keep investigating it and tell everyone you know you want to hear what the truth really sounds like. Do you want to read what it really looks like when you read science? You really want to get downloaded and handed all the evidence instead of just told it exists to have faith and trust the network? Tune to the high wire. We're going to be here and I'll see you next week.