The Highwire with Del Bigtree - EXCLUSIVE: DOCTOR AND PARENTS AT THE EPICENTER OF TEXAS MEASLES OUTBREAK

Episode Date: March 17, 2025

In an exclusive, West Texas ER Physician, Richard Bartlett, MD, details his experience treating over a hundred measles patients in the recent outbreak and shares his incredibly effective protocol. Del also talks with 2 mothers whose children were treated directly by Dr. Bartlett, and made miraculous recoveries from ICU in just one day from a safe and proven inhaled steroid.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-highwire-with-del-bigtree--3620606/support.

It's almost like this crazy timing the second that Robert Kennedy Jr. puts his hand on the Bible of door opened up and measles hopped out and started sweeping across Texas and the country like simultaneously, which, you know, I'm sure has set off plenty of conspiracy theorists. But we want to get beyond the conspiracy today. We are going to talk to some people that are literally on the front lines, a doctor and some families that have caught the measles. What was that experience like? This is what it looks like in the news. The measles outbreak is showing no signs of slowing down. The CDC reported more than 220 measles cases across 12 states. 23 people have been hospitalized in Texas.

Most of the cases are in unvaccinated people. It is the largest outbreak of this highly contagious disease that the state has seen in decades. The Texas Department of State Health Services says a school-aged child has died. The department says the child was not vaccinated and was hospitalized in Lubbock last week and tested positive for measles. A New Mexico adult who tested positive for measles has died, marking a second death related to the growing outbreak in the U.S. The person did not receive medical care and was not vaccinated. Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that they are issuing a travel alert regarding the measles outbreak in Texas and New Mexico. They say that travelers want to be cautious ahead of the spring and summer travel season.

The growing measles outbreak, leading officials to revise their vaccine recommendations. Their new recommendations include this, an early dose of the MMR vaccine for infants starting at six months to 11 months. That's earlier. And a second dose for adults who have only received one. The only thing we can really do to slow this epidemic right now is to encourage people to get their MMR vaccine. For the last several weeks, we've been covering this measles outbreak. in Texas. It's a huge story in this country, especially in light of the fact that Robert Kennedy Jr. is now HHS secretary and of course all the types of accusations and innuendo that comes with that. But up until this point, we've been covering it, you know, based on the same

headlines you're seeing and the same news stories that we just watched. But as fate would have it, one of our favorite doctors in the world, Dr. Richard Bartlett finds himself right in the middle of this outbreak in Texas and it is my honor and pleasure to be joined by him right now dr bartlett thank you so much for joining us um take me back just let me just let me just get some of the basics out of the way there's all sorts of conjecture uh we've avoided sort of making any judgment i don't know how to judge the situation but where just when we think of texas where in texas is this happening can you describe so why why you're wondering of the doctors treating there. It's in my neighborhood, Del. It's in West Texas. In Gaines County,

that's Seminole, Texas is the one town in the county, the main town, and I live in Midland. I do ER work in the area. Okay. And so I actually drive through Seminole every week. Okay. And have friends in Seminole. It's a, there's a large Mennonite community there. Okay. And some of them are friends of mine because we're neighbors. Yeah. And some of them are patients of a friend of mine, Dr. Ben Edwards. Okay. And when this measles outbreak began, he started to visit them and help them and render aid.

And gave me the report, called me while I was in the emergency room and told me, hey, I had, there a large number of them, of the people that have measles are coughing, coughing, it's short of breath and sometimes hypoxic, low oxygen, which can be dangerous. And he said, I sent some prescription of Budescineine nebulizer treatments, and it was a game changer. He says it was miraculous. Really? That they did the breathing treatments and the next, the breathing treatment, the cough stopped

in the middle of the night and the shortness of breath was gone. Their oxygen levels came up. And so he wanted me to help. And so the next day I drove there and we together. Let me just stop it right there because I find that fasting in some ways, you know, God works in mysterious ways, I suppose, but you were the person like the doctor in the middle of the COVID pandemic that started prescribing pedicinide, say that this is a steroid that works for exactly this type of issue in the lungs. We started recommending it. I had it for my family, everyone

we knew as a part of the treatment. So ironically, we find ourselves in totally different illness now. And I think I think of measles as a rash, like a skin is. issue, but is it natural for it to have an upper respiratory element? So, you know, 34 years of practicing medicine never treated a case or saw a case of measles in my career. Wow. And so, yes, measles is a highly contagious respiratory disease. That's how it spread.

And so you think of the rash, I thought of the rash, you look at the textbooks, you think of the rash, but one in 20, statistically, will end up with bacterial pneumonia, secondary bacterial pneumonia. Which was similar to the problem with coronavirus, right? It wasn't the coronavirus, it was the bacterial pneumonia that was left over. Yeah, the dangerous things about measles are not the rash. That's sensational. It gets your attention, but the danger is bacterial pneumonia or encephalitis, inflammation of the brain.

Those are the two rare risk factors, but pneumonia is most likely the most common problem. And so we were finding, when I went to help him the next day, 108 patients that day with measles. Okay. And here's something interesting, Dell. That's a huge, how many numbers? That sounds like if there's one day, it was almost everybody. I'm not getting as big a number.

No, the word got out. They're highly connected this community. And so they got the word out, beat the drums, smoke signals, and they all came in from everywhere. Okay. And so in that day, we saw the lion's share of the patients and we saw the rash, but what stood out to me was the coughing, the shortness of breath. And that actually is the most dangerous thing. And that's something we can do something about that Ben Edwards uncovered.

Yeah. And so the encephalitis rare, but that's an inflammatory problem. And the inflammatory chemicals are released from the lung lining. We heard about cytokines, cytokine storms being released during COVID. And this is parallel. It felt just like COVID did, where you saw people that were having a highly content. just respiratory virus and some of them were having coughing fits that wouldn't stop and shortens some breath.

And so, you know, you see on the news that the medical experts are saying there's no treatment for it, well, they get a high fever as well with measles. You should give Tylenol if it's not contradicated and you should control the fever. Because another complication with measles is febrile seizures and some of the kids have had that. We're seeing 106 fever, 106 degree fever. Tylenol is a good tool and and just to say you can't treat it is not acceptable and I tell I'm gonna just say I don't give Tylenol to my kids because it strips glutathione out of the body which I want in my children fighting you know

exactly some of the toxic elements inside of it so I'm just gonna put that out there sure I know that that's a product use some people will be saying and I'm not I'm not a doctor I'm not telling anyone what to do I will tell you I don't have any Tylenol in our house I've heard that you know And so I've heard that argument. And so I respect that. Yeah. But the bottom line is you've got to control the fever, however you want to control it,

whether, you know, IV fluids will lower the temperature, being in tap water, being in lukewarm water, not cold water, that'll bring the temperature down. Okay. There's lots of ways you can do that. There are some supplements that are herbal supplements that lower temperature of fever, and Motrin will, but the bottom line is you've got to control the fever because if you don't have fever you can't have febrile seizures right and that can be dangerous okay and a lot of these people that are suffering in this outbreak live in rural areas they're very

disconnected from a hospital it would take forever for an ambulance to find them yeah and so you want to be you have to be actually proactive as a parent and they are being very diligent parents I can tell you that but this started in seminal and there and we know that there was an outbreak in Mexico and Canada before there was in Mexico. We know that measles outbreaks happen. Every you in the United States, there are measles cases. They haven't disappeared from the planet. It's endemic in many places. And most of the kids are weathering this just fine. They're getting a rash. They're getting a fever. They're getting a cough. They're not getting short of breath and they're recovering. But some are having

trouble. And that's why this interview is so important. I appreciate you allowing me to speak with you because there are some tools that can protect those kids that are at increased risk. And we don't know who they are. Some of them have underlying health conditions, but some of the people that are having trouble are healthy kids before they get measles. And so, for instance, what we learned with COVID, that Budescine an inhaled steroid that's been out for 35 years, knocks the cytokine levels to zero every time you do a nebulizer treatment.

Even if you're on the ventilator in the ICU, when they drew blood, In the Saudi Journal of Anesthesia in 2017, they published that the cytokine levels go to zero. And so this is a powerful... Describe what a cytokine level. What does that mean to someone that doesn't know what we're talking about? So there's inflammatory chemicals that are involved in acute respiratory viral infection that are released from the cells that are injured. And those would be interleukin 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 11, 13, 15. tumor necrosis factor, which is what causes the fever.

Okay. Cyclooxygenase, which is what ibuprofen and Motrin, Advil, Aleve, all just drop that. They just interfere with that one inflammatory chemical. Tylenol, or anything that lowers the fever, affects just the tumor necrosis factor. But we have dozens of inflammatory chemicals that are released from the respiratory lining into the bloodstream that go total body. and cause the body aches, the fever, the chills. For some kids, decreased appetite, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, they're having all these symptoms.

And so some of the kids with a fever, you're at risk of getting dehydrated. But if you're decreased appetite from the cytokines, that is a double whammy. And so we're seeing kids that are dehydrated, so we're pushing the fluids. And so to say there's nothing we can do is bad medicine, that you have to give supportive care. The foundation of good medicine for the law,

last 50 years in the United States is we give supportive care for an acute viral illness, whether it's a GI symptoms or whether it's respiratory symptoms. If they're low in oxygen, you treat that. If they're having a fever, you take care of that. If they're dehydrated, you take care of that. Seems like common sense. I mean, this is where common sense left, you know, left the station during COVID, where it was just like we have no early treatment and let's take the license away from any doctor that prescribes anything early on, like ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine. You did all right with Budescine and some of the things that you were talking about.

But let me just because I want to be accurate. And I know, like, I surprise my audience sometimes that I really don't choose sides on this. I just want accurate information. I've been talking about the death rate of measles, ultimately, that we have one death here in Texas. I'm hearing a rumor of a second one. I'll ask you about that in a minute, but that's an anomaly.

We haven't had a death in 20 years from measles. I've said it used to be a Brady Bunch episode. At that point, it was 1 in 10,000 that were infected would die. Your boots on the ground, I'm not. In the middle of this, do you feel like this is a 1 in 10,000 death this year? Do you feel like you're looking at something

a little bit more serious? We would have more deaths if we didn't intervene. Really? Yes. Because one child at home, the pulse oxymeter read 70% oxygen saturation. And then she bundled them in a blanket and brought them in for help. And so they had an oxygen concentrator available, gave supplemental oxygen, gave the nebulizer treatments of eudescide, turned it around real quick in a day.

But when you're on a when your oxygen saturation is 70% No matter how old you are you're in danger. Okay, and so this is different than anything that I've ever read in the textbooks still Really? Yeah, I was totally shocked Yes, we normally think of a fever cough and this unusual morbilliform rash But I'd never seen anybody this hypoxic for I never would have thought I would have seen that with measles And so yeah, so I think that this is different than what my father endured when he was a child. He got measles and made it just fine. And he's 87 years old still doing surgery, so apparently it didn't affect him. And so this can be

very dangerous for some people. I just keep thinking about it. And it just brings up this thought. I think we're all saying now, it just feels like every illness that we used to get, you'd kick it in a day or two. You're fine. Like it's harder to get. through illnesses, everything feels stronger. I don't, and I guess my question is, do you think it's that somehow have we mess with our immune systems more? Like, are our immune system more depleted than they've ever been for? I mean, when you look at what Robert Kennedy Jr.'s talking about, the amount of toxins

in our environment, maybe that's contributing. But, you know, the coronavirus is supposed to be a mild cold. Well, of course, we've discovered that came from a lab. Are they typing this measles, by the way? Yes, I understand they've done genomic testing and a large, almost all of it that they're testing is wild type. Now, I have a concern that there have been cases, and I've heard this from government officials that are friends, that there have been patients who had the rash, had measles. And then on checking their history, they recently received the vaccine. and so it was clearly related to the vaccine.

And those are dropped from the numbers. Okay. And so how many is it? I don't know. Initially, it was one out of four in the city that is about 200,000. The mayor talked to me about. So that's 25% getting dropped. They were getting it from the vaccination program itself.

That one was vaccine related. Okay. So the measles, there's wild measles in nature, and then there's actually a live measles that is in the vaccine. And so you have the potential of having the exact same clinical picture of the same rash, of the same risk of encephalitis, inflammation of the brain, of the same risk of pneumonia. And also on the package inserted from the FDA, it says that you can get transverse myelitis where the spinal cord is damaged. I have treated one case of that that was the consequence of the COVID shot. Okay. And so there is a risk with measles infections, whether it's from the vaccine or wild.

And where do I get that information from the FDA itself? And so I'm telling patients and parents, go look at the MMR2 package insert, look at the risk and the benefits and you make the decision. The parents should be making the decision, but they deserve to know the information. before they make a decision. And one of the things that really is glaring to me, Del, is that the FDA, looking at the safety and efficacy data at the time, whoever looked at it in the FDA, decided that this was something they would recommend at a year old,

at 12 months or older. Pediatricians right now throughout Texas are recommending this strongly to children that are six months old. I don't have any explanation why you would do that when you have the FDA package insert clearly stating it's for 12 months and older. Right. There is a CDC website that says that if you're going to do international travel, you can give it younger.

But this is not international travel. This is in the middle of Texas, middle of West Texas. And so that doesn't compute, in my opinion. And so, you know, you got developmental stages with children, and so we don't know if they're at increased risk of a complication at six months that they wouldn't be at a year. Well, I happen to have looked at studies I know exist that show that at six months or younger that they don't actually get the right immune response, and they find that they can't get to the same level of immunity if they start at that early.

No matter how many subsequent vaccines, it seems to prime the immune system incorrectly. There's studies now, is that across the board? I'm just saying there are studies that show that that has been an issue. And as you've pointed out, we've known for years, really, you should wait until one year old. And there's also a lot of science showing that a child below one year's age has almost no immune memory, that it's almost futile to be delivering vaccines to children that young. But that's another story. And again, getting to Robert Kennedy Jr.,

all things that should be studied. You know, I mean, I think like right now, there's like this panic. Oh, my God, Robert Kennedy Jr. is going to investigate vaccines. Like, good, finally. Can we see what these products are doing and what they aren't doing? Things evolved. The viruses and bacteria that we're treating have evolved, which, you know, but, you know, looking at this, Robert Kennedy Jr.'s caught heat from both sides.

He's now recommending things like vitamin A, make sure that you're not malnourished, that you're taking, you have a healthy diet and that you're getting plenty of vitamins, but also has recommended to, you know, saying that the measles vaccine does contribute to community immunity. So he's catching it from all sides. Have you interacted with Robert Kennedy Jr. I have in the middle of this? I have. Shockingly, you know, practicing for 34 years, going through the COVID five years of crazy. where we really had people that were in a desk door. There was a crisis worldwide. But I have never seen the response that RFK is doing, how he is personally invested, personally involved, checking front line, boots on the ground, checking with families, talking to families.

You've never seen this before in our federal health care system. It's certainly not in my career. And so fortunately, RFK, is in charge and actually very connected and very, very involved in the care. He wants to know moment by moment what's happening, taking it very personal, as you should. Yeah. But we've never seen this before. This kind of response is unprecedented. So did you tell him, by the way, what is your sort of official recommendations? You said you've treated hundreds of patients now. What are you seeing that's working? And you are a doctor? I'm not. So I think you're allowed

to state, you know, how you're treating it. Well, fever control has to happen. However you're going to do it. And also the respiratory problem is the thing that is putting people in the hospital. And so I actually went to the pediatric ICU to see two friends of mine as a friend of the family. The kids were in the ICU because they were short of breath and requiring supplemental oxygen. That was what put them in the ICU. Right.

One of them was air flighted from Hobbs on a helicopter. Okay. That serious a situation. And so what we recommended to the ICU doctor was we talked about the evidence with what we just learned during COVID. The Stoic trial, the principal trial from Oxford University showing that an inhaled steroid that's very benign actually makes a big difference. And according to Oxford, 90% of the people would not have come close to a hospital with COVID if they were treated early with Budescine. Yeah. And so we discussed that with him and said, you know, the family's interested in Budescine nebulizer treatments.

And one of those patients just bounced out of the hospital the next day. Life flighted on helicopter from one state to the other to the ICU and then going straight from the ICU home. shortly after the Budescine nebulizer treatments were started. It's not a one-off. We're seeing the results across the board because this is acute, viral respiratory infection, which is causing the release of the cytokines. It's exactly what Budescineid would help with. And so Budescineide nebulizer treatments,

Budescineid is a medicine that, as a nose spray, used to be prescription only. Okay. And now it's over the counter. And so there is a talk about making the Budescine for nebulizer treatments over the counter, which makes sense. It's safer than Tylenol, as you pointed out. Tylenol has risk of death by liver toxicity even.

Right. And so that is one tool. So if someone wants to get Buticinine or like they're having, they have to go to their doctor then and get a prescription of Bidylidicine? It's right now, unfortunately, prescription only. Okay. And so go to your primary care doctor. or you can go to a telemedicine service like my free doctor.com.

Okay. Or you can go to Budesanideworks.com. There's a network of doctors there. Right. But there's lots of resources now for prescriptions. Can you stock up on something like that when you're not, you know, having these will just say, I want this around, should I run into one of these modern illnesses that seem to all be attacking the lungs on some level? When you look at what the who has lived?

listed as potential future pandemic outbreaks, a lot of them are acute viral respiratory infections. And so this would be a tool to have in the toolbox that's very benign. And so you talk to your doctor and make your decision. But I think so. I have it in my house. And who would have thought we'd run into measles? Right. I wasn't expecting that in my neighborhood, West Texas.

So another tool, besides controlling temperature and temperature. antibiotics. There are times where if someone's going to have knee surgery, heart surgery, they don't have an infection, Dell, but we'll give IV antibiotics. And so there's this argument, we don't want to cause people to become, we don't want to cause a worldwide problem with vaccines no longer being effective, so we're not going to treat you. That kind of mindset is bizarre. Because if someone's going to, someone who's going to have knee surgery doesn't have an infection, but we give that because they're at increased risk of getting an infection. With this measles outbreak, one thing I learned is that these kids that have these coughing fists that are short of breath that are acutely ill with a fever are at high risk of getting pneumonia.

Those are the ones that are most likely to get pneumonia, one in 20 statistically well. So you sort of proactively give an antibiotic just so it doesn't flip over. You were doing that during COVID too. That was part of the. A lot of people were actually, right? The even the ivermectin or hydroxychloricloricine am but erythromyricin, yeah. And so, you know, we saw with COVID eventually Northwestern University published that using AI that they had decided looking at the stats that most people died with COVID from secondary bacterial pneumonia. Right.

Right, not from the COVID necessarily, but from the secondary bacterial infection. Interesting. And so that was supportive for another acute viral, dangerous respiratory illness. And COVID absolutely is more deadly than measles. But we're seeing an unusual pattern here with shortness of breath and hypoxia for some patients with measles. And so supportive oxygen, supplemental oxygen is keeping some people out of the hospital. hospital if they can get some temporary oxygen support. And another thing that helps with oxygenation that I found during COVID that also decreases

inflammation and it makes nitric oxide, which helps with circulation to the heart, the brain, the tissues, and helps empty the stomach is this product called hydro shot from h2bev.com is the only place you can get it. And so it's over the counter instead of trying to go online and order that like a soda. Just order that online. And so I have patients that tell me, well, I'll just give me a, I'll start making my hydrogen water at home. I'm like, if you want to go ahead and reinvent the wheel, go ahead. But if someone's really sick, this is helping the kids right now with measles. I would not have expected that. But a lot of the kids, they're nauseated, they're vomiting,

they're dehydrated. They've got to get some fluids going. They're one. year old and trying to get a one year old, some fluid down a one year old that is not, that's already nauseated and bloated and their stomach slowed down. This is a game changer. And we're seeing that right now. So chlorithromycin is the antibiotic I choose in this situation when it's a respiratory infection because it covers like a Z-PAC, azithromycin, it covers the atypical bacteria, which are the ones that cause walking pneumonia like mycoplasma or Legionella pneumonia, Legionnaires,

disease or chlamydia pneumonia, penicillins and cephalosporins won't touch that. Okay. And so someone could have a walking pneumonia and if they're given penicillin, IV penicillin in the hospital, they'll die. All right. But if they get this antibiotic just as a syrup for kids or a pill, it covers it. And it also covers strep pneumonia, the encapsulated classic pneumonia that can cause a high fever chills and pneumonia.

So it covers everything that's at risk in that area. And so that's the antibiotic we're using. And so there's things you can do to send, there are patients that I have heard with measles, they test positive, they're sick, and they're sent home saying there's nothing we can do. That's not acceptable. If they're sick enough to go to an ER, then you do supportive care. The Hippocratic oath has two parts. First, alleviate human suffering.

That's still appropriate. And then do no harm. Right. And they're both important. Is there a bit of an attitude, though? I mean, I don't know. It feels like there's, I think about, you know, Jimmy Kimmel during COVID said, you know, unvaccinated, having a heart attack or whatever, you know, come on in. I mean, you know, good luck, weasy. If you're vaccinated, fine, come on into the hospital. Is there that kind of prejudice going on right now? Because I know a lot of people has been a lot of conjecture about why this child may or may not have done. I'm sure the doctors did the best they could. But is there, you know, are they, I mean, part of me thinks that you have all these doctors that may be back during Brady Bunch era, be like, oh, yes, some measles. Come on in.

Let's get them some vitamin A. Let's get them some oxygen, get some fluids going. But now they're under this impression that it's like the end of the world. It's like Ebola just came in the hospital. I'm not even sure doctors, it's their fault. They're told this is a deadly disease and it's going to sweep across the hospital. do we need a re-education of modern doctors to say, hey, we weren't, you know, as luck would have it, the vaccine program did not eradicate measles the way we planned. So you're going to have

to learn how to handle this once in a while and maybe just educate them on. Absolutely. And so let's see one thing I've noticed is that the experts, quote unquote experts, have never seen measles or treated measles. Wow. That's significant. Let's just let that soak in for a second. And yes, so there is absolutely need for reeducation. A lot of the doctors are hearing the same message over and over. Just what you said, that this is a highly contagious, deadly disease. We need to be afraid. There's nothing you can do.

There are doctors giving excellent care in Seminole in their local hospital. Okay. And doctors that are in primary care in West Texas taking care of this. initially that family. This is a peculiar situation. This Minnanite community, they speak. Well, you know what? While we're on it, I think we have Marianne, who's the mother of the family of the child,

I think, that was Medevac in, can join us now. So why don't we just talk to Marianne? Marianne, I want to thank you for joining us. We're talking about, obviously, your family was in the middle of this measles outbreak. and your child had to be flown into the hospital. Is that correct? That's correct, yes. So just tell me what the experience was for your family.

How many children do you have and how many of them caught the measles? Well, we have four children, and they actually all got the measles at different times. But they all pulled through fine with the measles. I felt like we had under control with some natural supplements. But then my last daughter, about two days after she, the measles started going away, she started having some respiratory issues.

And that's why we took her to the doctor. And then they flew us to Lubbock to the hospital over there. Because of her respiratory issues, she was having issues with oxygen. Okay. That must have been very stressful, I would imagine. It was, four years old. And, yeah, it was hard for me and my husband both being over there and hoping everything would be okay. But, yeah, it took some time.

Dr. Barlet came in and we are so thankful. We thank God for him that he stepped in and helped us. It was amazing. And so Dr. Bartley, you showed up, child's brought in. First of all, you hear sometimes hospitals push back, letting other doctors in or a treatment of Budesinide. How did you go about getting that approved? Well, I'm a friend of the family,

so the father and me walked into the hospital. He escorted me into the ICU, into the room. And so we were in the ICU room, visiting and and the doctor came in and while he was there we talked about Budesh night and the wishes of the family to give it a try okay and that and he to his credit said let's let's do this and he ordered it great and so he ordered it at the Lubbock Texas ICU and and we saw amazing results really quick fortunately how long how quickly did that your child turn around after you

getting the Budescined? Well, he came that morning. They did the Budescine that morning and that evening. We started noticing a difference. The next morning they did it again. And then by 3.30 that afternoon, we got to go home.

Oh, wow. That's, that's, I guess we have some before and after images. Oh, poor little sweetie. In one day went from that to, which gets to that point, Dr. Bartlett. People ask, like what about temperatures or, you know, I just had Lawrence Pilewski, a pediatrician.

He said, temperature is not as important as are they delirious? Are they, you know, having trouble focusing, lethargic, things like that. You can clearly just tell from that photo that little girl is very sick. She was very sick. Yeah. And so she was not eating, not drinking, not moving, just whimpering and not getting better. Yeah. She was on supplemental oxygen and she was trapped on supplemental oxygen in bed with IVs.

Not being able to move, which is really important. I think, Marianne, you noticed that once she got the Budesinide and she perked up and started eating, that she started moving around and actually that's where she really, it helped with her lungs. It helps the lungs to take big breasts and move. Yeah, she started walking around and we were like, whoa, we haven't seen this yet. She wasn't moving around. She didn't want to eat, nothing. She became a totally different child.

She started acting like herself again. Did you or your husband contract the measles during this outbreak? So I got a light case of it. The day she went into the hospital, I had a little bit on my face, a little bit on my neck. I am vaccinated, but yes, I did get a light case of it. Not a lot. It lasted about three days, but yeah. Okay.

And is your husband vaccinated also? Yes, he is. But your children are not vaccinated? No, they're not. Now, is that, I mean, if you, and you don't have to answer, is that a religious belief or why did you make that choice with your own? children? No. I would say my doctor he taught us about the vaccines and that's when we decided not to vaccinate our children because of the side effects of vaccines. Okay. And so all your kids have gotten through. Everyone's doing fine. In your community, when we're hearing this is really sort of,

there's a very specific area to this outbreak. Do you have friends and other family members that are having their families catch the measles right now? Definitely. I have nephews. I have nephews. nieces, some of them would have actually ended up in the hospital if they hadn't followed Dr. Bartlett's protocol with the nubulizer and all that. They were very sick. They're doing okay now, but they went and seen, they've been following what Dr. Bartlett said with the Budesonite, and they're doing fine now, but they weren't doing very good either. Very interesting. So Dr. Bartley, we hear it's incredibly infectious. When I went to the Hasidic Jewish community during the Rockland County outbreak a few years,

ago, they were having measles parties and trying to catch it. And it was actually surprisingly difficult. A lot of them had difficulty getting their family. I remember to talk to them. It was not a big story that anyone told, but this sounds like it's pretty darn contagious. It is pretty contagious and it's also more virulent. And so that's different than what I have read about with the outbreaks in the past, not treating those cases, not seeing those patients.

But once someone survives the measles, outbreak right now. They've got lifelong immunity. And so they're protected and it might help their immune system with other problems. One thing I've noticed is a totally different picture. If an adult does get it, it's rare. I have a room full of, we've seen a room full of kids with measles and we see there many of their parents are not vaccinated and they're not sick. Interesting. Yes. So it's a different picture. And I think there's a, I'll talk about my theory on that at a moment. Marietta, I want to thank you for joining us. Is there anything? else you want to share about your experience. There's so much fear being pushed right now. Do you think this is worthy of the sort of hype and fear that's being created across America right now? We were very scared. I'll just say it like it is. Hearing the stories we heard, we didn't know what to do being in the ICU. There were so many sick children there. But I would just say if people can follow Dr. Bartlett's protocol, I say do it. We are very, we thank God that he came in and helped us. All right. Thank you very much for your time. Appreciate it and our prayers

with your family. Glad everyone's okay. Thank you so much. It means a lot to ask. All right. Take care. I think we have one other mother from the era. Greta is joining us. Hi, Greta. Thank you for joining us today. Hi. Thank you. Yeah. So tell me what was your experience. You also live in this same area in Texas. How many children do you have? I have five and they all got the measles. First two did and they were like one and a half weeks later. And my husband and all other, well, the other three children got it. Oh, so your husband caught it too?

Yes, he is vaccinated, but he got it too. That's very interesting. Was he vaccinated as a child or was he vaccinated recently? Yes. Or he was just vaccinated as a child? As a child. Okay. Very interesting.

And how did your children fare? coming through it. Was it alarming or was it? For the oldest poor it was well it wasn't the same for everyone. One stopped eating and drinking well mostly or almost stopped drinking but after two days he started well he had to throw up if he was eating and all the others they were just fine just fever and they had some coughs and we just did lots of cod liver oil and vitamin A and and probiotics, that's what we did. So we did not give any Tina no or anything.

And we didn't do bad. Somebody told me it was bad, so we did not do that for, I guess, until the rash was gone. But for my youngest, he is a special need, and he is two and a half now, and he developed pneumonia. So we have a nurse come in like every Monday, but I was sure. Like I caught him at 77. His oxygen rate was at 77. Yeah. And I put him on the oxygen right away, and it helped a lot.

And then I call, like, where Dr. Bartlett was. And he took us in, and he helped us, like, he took us in front of everybody. And he helped us, and it was, like, a big change. Like, right the next morning when we woke up, like, he was himself again. Wow. So, again, you had a pretty miraculous. this turnaround. And was that beaticinite again, Dr. Bartlett? It was.

Amazing. Well, I'm glad to hear that that worked out. So of all of your kids and your husband, your youngest was the only one that had to end up going to the hospital. Is that correct? We did not go to the hospital. Dr. Bartlett saved us. Oh, so we did. This child is disabled and has a feeding tube, and he was at high risk of a bad outcome. Okay. And so Greta, I'll let you explain a little bit more, but bottom line is he was basically out of it when she carried him in, wrapped in a blanket, oxygen saturation of 70% at home.

Wow. Yeah. And can't feed himself, can't speak, can't communicate, just lethargic, eyes not engaging. And she's a hero. She took this child, gave supplemental oxygen at home, gave the breathing treatments, gave the antibiotics in the feeding. tube. Okay. And he bounced. This would have been a patient on the ventilator if he would have been treated by another doctor in the hospital, no doubt. And so she saved, she saved him a lot of heartache. Amazing. And how'd your husband do? I always, you always wonder how adults are going to do when they

catch it. Well, it was a very mile on him. So he did better than all of the kids did. Okay. All right, well, that's good to hear. Again, and so none of your, just to be clear, None of your kids were vaccinated? None of them. Well, yes, the first two are some, they have a few vaccines, but then I found out it, like, I got to know the ingredients and the side of facts and everything. So we stopped it because I did not trouble with doing that any longer, but the other kids do not have the vaccines.

And the oldest two do not have the measles vaccines or they just have some other vaccines. Okay. All right, very good. What would you want people to know after going through the? experience, there's a lot of fear around the country. What would you say to other parents, especially if they're starting to see it, an outbreak in their area? What would you want those parents to know? And what would be your recommendation? Well, I would say the Bedesonite. If they could get a hand on that, do that because I saw it did wonders for our son. And if that

would have been like a few hours, and a few hours, we would have been to the hospital because the nurse was coming and she would have checked on him and they would put us in the hospital. But Dr. Bartlett, he saved us and I'm so thankful. All right, wonderful. Well, I want to thank you for taking the time and helping share your story because it really helps us get a better understanding for ourselves and brings a reality to it. So thank you very much. Thank you so much for having me. All right, our prayers are with your family.

I hope everyone's feeling good now. Thank you. Take care. Yes. So very interesting two families. Both lives, I mean, children's lives were saved. And as you're pointing out, I mean, just there were roughly 10 kids between the two families. And two of 10 had an upper respiratory condition worthy of hospitalization.

Even I see you. That is clearly not the one in 10,000. I mean, I don't know, but I would assume that if this was the measles that was happening back in, I think, 1962 or whatever, I have a hard time believe the Brady Bunch would be doing laugh tracks on that. Right. This is not that. This is not that. No. I mean, is your, I mean, can we assume this is a different... It's a different strain?

It's either a different strain, whether it's from evolution being forced by... Or we're weaker. Or there's also the argument where there's a species. Absolutely there are toxins. Yeah. And so a family member of mine recently had cancer to deal with. We did the environmental toxin screening. It made me very angry to see the results.

Yeah. And so we definitely are dealing with a toxic environment. Yeah. And there's also other factors involved that can affect the immune system, but definitely having RFK involved in this at this time we never needed him more. I agree. And so. I mean, did you find him pushing an agenda?

Because that's what he's being accused of. He's not pushing anything. He called me after we treated the patients and talked for 20 or 30 minutes. He called me. Who does that? Who checks with the front line and checks on the patients? Who is that concerned that's a part of the person? that's a part of the federal health care system, never before.

Right. And so not pushing anything, looking for facts, looking for information, validating it, looking at the studies after he talked to me, speaking with the other doctor about his perspective. And so I don't see an agenda. I see someone who wants the facts out to the American people. I've never seen transparency like we're seeing right now. And so, and patients deserve, parents deserve transparency before they make a decision. Right.

But no, I think if we ever needed RFK to be in that position, he's already proving himself. That's fantastic. Is there any pushback right now? Obviously, your public, we're here. You're, you know, on a campaign, really, because you've watched, you've just saved lives. Budesonide works. How is mainstream medicine and media treating this? Are they trying to, I mean, they tried to sideline BDF9 for COVID.

Are you getting any pushback that way right now? So I've had a couple networks reach out to me. And after what we've seen, even lately, where I'm watching the confirmation hearings for RFK, and I see what he's saying. And then I see what's being reported that he said after the fact. I'm not interested in doing anything suffering just for the sake of suffering. I want to get the truth out and help people. That's what we're here for.

But I'm not interested in the circus that's still happening in the media, the mainstream media. And so I appreciate what you do here with the high wire, getting useful information out to people. Because there are other people in other states having measles right now. It's not just West Texas. And so I want them to know we're not helpless or hopeless, that we have some tools that are helpful. Yeah. The Budescine nebulizer treatments to decrease the inflammation in the lungs, decrease the risk of the bacterial pneumonia, but you need antibiotics.

We talk about empirically giving antibiotics or preventively, prophylactically. This is that. It's very important. A couple of patients who did not get the antibiotics, but they got the Budescineine nebulizer treatments, ended up in the hospital. And so this is critical to be covered with antibiotics. So you would say do the whole protocol. You have to, unfortunately.

Is there a website or anywhere? Do you have this protocol up where someone can look at it? We've put it, we've talked about it on Budescineidworks.com. All right. Very good. Dr. Bartlett, you drove here, which is quite a drive to share this information. As always, just a very trusted friend and an amazing doctor. You saved some people for me during COVID. I mean, literally got on the phone and one point was even yelling at them. out of your bed I need you walking. He said I was yelling. I was just encouraging him. Whatever it takes though you'll do it. I appreciate that. Dr. Bartlett, thank you for taking the time to join us today.